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You are listening to the Billy Dees Podcast.
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Well, hello and welcome to the program. As always, I
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am absolutely thrilled that you are here. If you've never
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checked us out before, we are primarily an interview and
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a commentary-based podcast. Today, we're going to talk about any
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number of different subjects. We're going to kind of try
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to recap some of the stories that we've followed, some
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of the things that we've talked about in the last week.
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We've had a very busy week. Here again, if you're
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know that being a regular listener that this last week
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we put out material a lot more frequently than what
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we normally do. And this was for a number of
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different reasons. We do work with a booking service. And
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a lot of times the guests, due to some of
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them are politicians, they want their episode out before an
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election or a primary event. Authors sometimes want the episode
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to go out in conjunction with the release of their book. And,
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of course, people talking about current events want the episode
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to go out while the events are still current because
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sometimes there's such a lag time that by the time
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your episode comes out, whatever you're talking about is over
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and done with. So this puts a certain amount of
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pressure on us. It's not just the getting the recording scheduled.
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That's only part of it. There's the technical aspect of it.
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There's the preparation for the interviews. There's going through the
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media kits. And if we're having a person come on
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to talk about a given subject, sometimes we have to
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research that a little bit. So there's a lot of
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things happening behind the scenes and working with. demands for time,
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when you factor that in, it's just like the quality triangle.
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You know, the more you have of any one, it's
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going to come at the expense of another. And I
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did the best I could this last week. I am
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really happy with how all the episodes turned out. But
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just like any other creator, you're a musician, you're a writer.
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Sometimes you'll go back over your work and say, I
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wish I would have done that a little better. I
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wish I had a little more time here. But all
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in all, it was a very powerful week. We had
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some very interesting conversations. We had some that went their
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own direction. And that's fine. That's part of what makes
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this work. The spontaneity and being put in a situation
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that you didn't necessarily expect to be in is part
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of the fun of it. But Over the last week,
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we've covered some things, and I'm going to start with Cornell. Okay. Obviously,
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if you don't know the details of this, you've probably
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been living under a rock, but there's allegations that a multi-people,
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multi-individuals were involved in some sort of a rape of
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a young woman who has been called Jane Doe. Now,
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her name is floating around the Internet, as are the
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names of all the alleged individuals who took part in this.
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And we're choosing not to talk about these names. And
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I'll get to that as to why in a minute,
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in a moment. But essentially what happens with this case
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is this back in 2024, there was some sort of an,
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an event where at a college house where there was
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a number of men and a young woman, and there
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were drugs involved. There was illicit sex involved and, And
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something didn't go right, and a police report was filed.
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And oddly, the initial police report is a little vague
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in terms of was it rape or not rape. But nonetheless,
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this report was done by the campus police. And based
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off of that, the prosecutor decided not to press charges.
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This is kind of where I feel the weakest link
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is going by campus police. From what I understand, they are,
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quote unquote, real police. They can make arrests and so
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on and so forth. But it's not the same as
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having investigators, investigators who are trained to go through this
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and then having the prosecutor make a determination. That's probably
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where one of the weakest links is. But with that aside. Now,
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more recently, a civil lawsuit has been filed against a
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number of individuals, including those involved in the initial incident
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and the various people in levels around the school and
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so on and so forth for not doing anything. So
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we essentially have two reports to go with. We have
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the initial report that was filed a number of years ago.
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which was relatively short and kind of vague in terms
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of what it was saying. And we have the prosecutor
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at that time who decided not to press charges.
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The other piece of information is a lawsuit. Now lawsuits
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are designed to appear as bad as possible.
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This is something where you are going to claim damages
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of some sort. So again, Is it an independent investigation?
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Do we have a truly independent investigation as to what
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happened at this time? I'm going to say no. With
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that being said, the second report, which was exposed by,
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from what I understand, a Cornell newspaper that is not
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supported by Cornell. This whole thing broke. This news broke.
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And it's this time it's spread like wildfire over the Internet. And,
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you know, people, you have two extremes. And this is
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often the case, and this is what we talk about
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a lot here on the program. We have two extremes.
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We have the one extreme that says this was a
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rape gang going around and, you know, attacking this woman
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on this night in this house. And then you have
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the other extreme saying that why
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This whole thing is made up. This is another Duke situation. And,
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you know, this is just a woman who regrets what
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she did. And my opinion is, as so often in life,
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the truth is probably somewhere in between. But there's a
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lot wrong along with this. And I'm going to get
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to that in a minute. But this is what of
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all people, Sonny Hostin from The View. This is what
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she had to say about what's happening with Cornell right now.
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In the news.
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The pictures of these young men who have not been charged,
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not been adjudicated, are being plastered all over the Internet.
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I think people are reporting this story inaccurately. I think
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they're reporting it unfairly. And while this is something that
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we have to take very seriously, there is no way,
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according to her statement in 2024, that any prosecutor would
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have brought.
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She's right. And let me tell you something. The times
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that I agree with Sonny Hostin... Hell just froze over.
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But you've got to give credit where credit is due.
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So far, all the people involved in this have been doxxed. Okay,
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all the seven young men and the woman, the Jane Doe,
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they've all been doxxed. It's real easy to find out
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who the names are. There's pictures of them. Two of them,
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I believe, have already lost jobs or had their jobs
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suspended pending the outcome of this.
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So what we really.
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Need to do at this point is have let the
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the prosecutor now is taking a second look at this.
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And if there's going to be a further investigation, we
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need to let this play out a little bit. I
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can tell you that this is going through this. This
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is a mess.
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All right.
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And, you know, I often talk about. Bad things happening
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in bad situations. When you put yourself in bad situations,
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bad things happen. And I want to be very clear,
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this is not in any way talking about the victim.
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This is talking about anyone, okay? I worked in nightclubs
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for many years. I was a sound guy. I was
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a disc jockey. I was a stand-up comedian. For the
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most part, I feel that the nightclub community gets a
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bad rap in terms of promiscuity and things like that,
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because most of the people that I knew and I
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got to know thousands over the years who would come
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out for a night of dancing and they worked hard
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all week. They worried about their kids all week. They
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took their kids to the soccer games and went through
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all the stressors of life. And on Friday night, they
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just wanted to go out, unwind a little bit, dance
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a little bit. have some fun with friends, gossip, catch
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up on what all the latest gossip is in their
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little group. And they had some fun. But it was
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an environment that you had to be careful. All right?
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There's people out there who have bad intentions. And when
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you're out meeting people, like these young people were on
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the night of the partying and the college campuses and
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everything else, when you're out meeting people, and uh whether
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it be in a bar or on the internet or
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whatever i understand you want to live life not everybody
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is going to you know plan on getting married and
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having 2.1 children every time they meet somebody we don't
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go into every relationship that serious okay but There's a
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difference between understanding that not everybody you meet or everybody
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you're going to fraternize with as a young person or
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a single person at any age, there's a difference between
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that and just living a reckless lifestyle.
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There's, there's something called a calculated risk. You took a
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calculated risk when you went to work this morning. Now,
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hopefully when you drove, you were responsible. You paid attention
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to the traffic. You paid attention to the
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paid attention to what was happening around you, but an
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accident could still happen.
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We know that when you drive recklessly, if you are
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driving impaired or if you're in a hurry to get
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to work because you're, you're going to be late. And
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I always tell people, if you're going to be late,
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be late. It's not worth having an accident, harming yourself,
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harming someone else. You know, the, Driving, when you're hastily driving,
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you're putting yourself at greater risk. You're going to take
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chances that you don't normally take. You're going to miss
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something in traffic that you might not have ordinarily. And
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this goes with anything. Okay, if you meet somebody that's
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very attractive, you're very enamored with, and you want to
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be with them, take a calculated risk. Don't go home
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with them upon the first meeting at one o'clock in
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the morning. You don't know what's going to happen. You
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don't know what that person's intentions are. And this goes
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for men and women alike. You know, make this person
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earn your trust a little bit. Find out a little
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about them, who they are, where they're from, how you
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can find them otherwise. You know, see if they come
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with references, how many of your friends know them. You know,
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just take some time and make a calculated risk. And
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when I was going to school in the mid-1980s, I
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went to Kent State for a while and my career
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path took a different turn. While I was in school,
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I had the opportunity to start a business and I
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needed some technical training and I went in that direction.
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But I was, you know, part of the, I guess,
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the college party community there for a while. And I
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never was much for drinking and I certainly was never
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one for taking drugs. But I went to some of
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these parties and I was shocked. At what I was around,
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I mean, there was promiscuity. At that time, the 1980s,
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coke was really a big thing, cocaine. And, of course,
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drinking is always an issue. And there's just craziness all
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around you. And I can't imagine being an investigator trying
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to sort out something, let's say an alleged rape. And
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you have alleged perpetrators. who are stoned out of their mind.
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They don't even know what planet they're on, let alone
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what happened in that situation. You have alleged victims, same condition.
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Any type of witness that you might have, same condition.
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Everybody's drunk. Everybody's half sick. Nobody can remember anything. Maybe
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this happened or that happened. As an investigator, how do
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you even make heads or tails of the situation? And
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I'm saying here again, I'm not saying about women. I'm
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saying in general, you don't don't put yourself in those situations.
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Nothing good is going to happen. And I wasn't I
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wasn't an angel when I was in my early 20s
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by any stretch of the imagination. I was not some
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goody goody. But I knew that this was over the
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top of anything that I was going to get involved in.
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What I was afraid of when I was in these
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situations a lot of times unexpectedly, I.
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Got to get out of here. This place is going
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to get raided. And I had too much to lose.
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I was doing pretty good at that age, especially considering
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I had lost a parent and my life was kind
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of in disarray.
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I was an only child.
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I was, you know, making my way through life as
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best I could. And I had too much to lose.
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I couldn't afford getting busted at something like this when
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I wasn't doing anything to begin with. So my my
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my inclination was always get me the hell out of here. OK,
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so I think more people should have. That mentality, get
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me the hell out of here. And this isn't blaming
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the victims. I've used this analogy before, but if someone
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tells
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save you some time, but it's too dangerous. Go the
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long way. And you decide, well, I'm going to take
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the short street. You get mugged. Does that mean you
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deserved it? Absolutely not. Nobody deserves to have a crime
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perpetrated on them. Absolutely not. Does that mean that the
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people that did that to you, the perpetrators... Should they
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get off for what they did? Absolutely not. They're guilty
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of a crime. But in the full context of the picture,
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you took maybe a calculated risk and lost or you
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were just reckless and lost. And if there's a better
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way to get home, taking the shorter route when you
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know better is a reckless decision. OK, so stay out
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of reckless situations. Stay out of these horrible situations. Quite frankly,
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what we have here, when you start reading these two reports,
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is you have a level of decadence. If nothing happened,
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let's just say for the most part, no rape happened.
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What you have here is a night of decadence that
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young people should not be engaging in. And here again,
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I am not on a moral high ground, goody-goody type
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of person. that you have illicit sex, ketamine being snorted
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off of a penis, substances being snorted off of the
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young woman, the Jane Doe's body. And this is in
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a situation where people are coming and going. It is
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just not a good situation. Nobody, none of the, they all,
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quite frankly, need a good beating, all of them. for
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if I, I can't imagine if my old man had
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been alive and I was in a situation where there
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was illicit drug use, illicit sex, and I got myself
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in some kind of trouble, he would have beat my ass.
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He would have beat my ass.
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And I'm always going to say this. I, you know,
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the parents these days, instead of having that attitude, their
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attitude is my precious kid. Got mistreated. And it is
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not serving us well. It is absolutely not serving us well.
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My guess, and it's just a guess, all of these
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things are allegations. All of these things are allegations.
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Okay?
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But with that being said, if I had to guess,
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I would say that something... happened. Probably what happened from
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the reports that I went through was some sort of
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a threesome started and it may be continued on with
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other men coming and going. And at some point things
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got out of hand. At some point there was taking
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advantage of somebody who was incapacitated. That's probably what happened.
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And that of course should never have happened. But like
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I said in my original example, how do you sort
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through it? When everybody involved from the alleged perpetrators to
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the alleged victims to the alleged witnesses, none of them
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can speak with any authority about what happened. So how
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do you sort through that? The best thing I can
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say about it is we will let time move forward
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and we will take it from there. In regard to
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what Sonny Haasen said, a lot of these individuals, this
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should not be happening. There's a lot of hate being
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directed at the alleged perpetrators, which I understand. I've also
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noticed a lot of hate being directed at the Jane Doe,
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so much so the accuser of making the thing up.
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They have these memes of her in horrible, degrading animations.
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They're calling her all kinds of names, the S word,
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the C word, the W word. And none of that
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should be happening. None of it should. None of these
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young people should be openly ridiculed. It is not going
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to serve them well, regardless of who did what to whom.
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You can sort that out later and properly address it.
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But in the meantime, all of these individuals are being
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treated like, you know, they're horrible people.
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By the opposite side.
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And I'm really afraid that one of them is going
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to harm
themselves. And then we're going to find out
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that maybe these people really didn't do that much. You know,
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there's a lot of people saying, well, if you were
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on this chat, if you don't know one of them,
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there was a little group chat where on some app
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or something that they were using. And the fraternity was
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involved 50 some odd individuals. And a lot of young
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people are saying, well, apparently, you know, a lot of
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people knew this was going on and nobody did anything here. Again, I, I,
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that's certainly understandable. I, if I knew for a fact
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that there was something really bad happening in the next
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room over, I probably, I probably couldn't do nothing. That's
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not something that, that my personality allows for. However, I've
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been involved in group chats recently and nothing involved on
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the scale, but just events over the weekend and things
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like that. These things are pinging all through the night
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when I'm sound asleep. There's 80 some notifications on them.
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There's no way that I am going to sort through them.
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There's probably a good chance that a lot of these
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people that were in this chat paid very little attention
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to it. It's probably going on every night and especially
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on the weekends. So we're making a lot of presumptions
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that we just don't know the answers to.
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But it's very unfortunate.
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I do believe here again, just an assumption on my part,
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that Cornell did know something. And this is probably something
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here again. These wild nights are probably pretty common and
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they don't want it to hurt their ability to stand
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up as an institution where they can charge some unholy
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amount of money for tuition. And they don't like to
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talk about these things. There's a pretty good chance that
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this was not a priority for anybody. And that's a
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shame because I really believe this fraternity system needs overhauled.
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And for my money, the four year degree system in
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this country needs overhauled because, you know, these universities have
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got themselves in a situations where people start planning for
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tuition the day a child is born because you've got
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to have one, apparently.
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And I don't believe that's the case anymore at all.
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They use these a lot of times government taxpayer funds,
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along with these ungodly tuitions to indoctrinate these students. You
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have people that want to be, let's say, a doctor
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who have to take a bunch of classes and stuff
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that have nothing to do with whatever it is that
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they're going to school for. You know, I understand this
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system was probably, let's say, in the 1950s. There's a
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good chance that during those years when a young person
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went off to college, that was the first time that
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they left their hometown, especially for any length of time.
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That's not true anymore. These kids are all over the place, okay?
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They got all this information in their hands. There's nothing
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that they need to learn about media studies and social
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studies and all this bullshit. There's no reason why a doctor,
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somebody who wants to become a doctor, leaves high school,
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goes to a very intense two-year training program, pre-med, and
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then goes straight off to medical school and then off
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into training and so on and so forth. All we're
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doing is we're taking years of these people's lives. using
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the space in their brain that could be used to
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become a doctor or whatever it is they want to
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become and taking all that money for all these bullshit classes.
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It's not serving any good at this point. So this
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whole thing, starting with a fraternity and sorority system, this
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whole thing has to be reexamined. I know that's not
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going to happen with all the football teams and all
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the money that's in college is probably not going to happen,
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but it's not sustainable the way that it is, especially
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with
what's coming. Because what's coming is really, when we're
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talking about AI and some of this other stuff, we're
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going to need workers who know something about something. And
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just sending all these thousands of kids out who know
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how to make really nice pie charts and spreadsheets, that
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bullshit is, the need for that is waning as we speak. Okay,
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a couple other things. So this thing with the death penalty,
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let's talk about Christina Pike or Krista Pike.
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I'm sorry, Krista Pike.
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Pike, years ago, decades ago, and that's one of the
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problems I have with the death penalty is these people
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die of old age before they make it to their execution.
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But that's a whole other subject. Pike became convinced that
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a fellow student, and here again, her name, I always
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want to mention the name, the victim, Colleen Slemmer. That's
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a young girl who was truly innocent. That was a
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young girl at best flirting with somebody's boyfriend, which is
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something that, you know, everybody in the world has done
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at one time or another. Pike became convinced that this
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woman was trying to steal her boyfriend, Tadra Hill ship
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pike complained to lure slimmer to an isolated abandoned steam
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plant near the university of tennessee campus slimmer was attacked
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by pike and ship pike is the person who was
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execution was up ship is the alleged boyfriend at the
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time and they also took another friend with them as
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a lookout according to court testimony for the next 30
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minutes slimmer was taunted beaten and slashed. During the attack,
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Slimmer begged for her life. And that's the part that,
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you know, this young girl who did nothing of any
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substance was begging for her life. While they used a
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box cutter to carve a pentagram into her chest while
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she was still alive.
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And Pike.
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Used a meat cleaver and carved her up. Finally, Pike
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smashed Slimmer's skull and With a large chunk
of asphalt.
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Killing her from brain injury. And Pike kept a piece
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of Slimmer's skull. And would show it off. And boast
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about how she got it. Now a lot of stuff
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has come up about Pike in her history. Apparently she
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had a troubled violent childhood. And all of these other things.
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Which is very common. In these types of cases. And
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it's unfortunate. But come on now. We're talking about somebody
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carrying around a piece of skull in their pocket. Like
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it's a souvenir from Las Vegas. It's a chip that
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they're carrying around from their vacation in Vegas.
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All right.
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Well, she was sentenced to death. And here again, this
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was years ago, decades ago. And they went to execute
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her and it didn't go very well.
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I will say I've witnessed, I believe, five executions in Tennessee.
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Nothing about today was normal, typical at all. At one
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point at 734, she said, my arm feels like it's
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about to burst open. Then she smiles really big. Then
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she starts talking about that one spot on her arm.
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Does this happen like that? The one spot? I didn't
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hear the rest. And then her advisor says, relax. And
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she says, I'm trying. Yeah, she's talking throughout this, then
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starts breathing, moaning, snoring.
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Yeah, this was bad, I'm sure, for anybody who was
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around witnessing this execution, this botched execution. And Some of
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the people who witnessed the execution were actually a little emotional.
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And I know there's a tendency to say, how could
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you be emotional about this horrible person? And I understand
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it because when you are with somebody, when you're actually
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with the human being, you recognize them as a human being.
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And I can understand why people on death row have
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a problem with this, especially when they've known these– some
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of these death row inmates– for a lifetime, their whole career,
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this person has been on death row. And now all
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of a sudden they're getting executed. And the person that
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they've gotten to know on some level as a human
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being is going to exist no more. And I understand
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the humanity of that. I don't want to criticize that
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at all. However, here again, in the context of this,
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My first priority is to the victim.
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Okay.
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The victim who is begging for her life, getting cut
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to pieces and then having her quite literally her brains
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bashed in. That is where my priority is. And I've
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said this before and I'll say it again. We are
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obsessed with, With the rights of the accused, we are
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obsessed with the rights of these perpetrators. at the expense
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of how much we care for the victims. You know,
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I'm sure you've seen cop shows. You've seen the cops
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show where they arrest somebody and they have to read
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them the rights. You know, you have a right to
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remain silent. You have a right for an attorney and da-da-da-da-da.
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There are no rights for a victim. You never have
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a victim being read their rights. You don't have any
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rights as a victim. Oh, you're badly hurt. Boy, hope
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you get insurance. You know, and this is the thing
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that is so infuriating to me. But getting back to
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the original thing, the death penalty. I've had people say
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what they should have done is they should have taken
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her outside, taken her back into the forest somewhere and
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hit her on the head with a giant rock.
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That might have been more efficient. I don't know.
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This lethal injection, for the most part, is designed to
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make the public feel that this is acceptable. I believe
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it's acceptable. I'm not necessarily pro death penalty and I'll
481
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get to that in a minute. But it's it's acceptable.
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It seems like such a humane thing to do. You know,
483
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like when your your your pet is getting to that
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point and it's unfortunate, but you do what you got
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to
do. And that's kind of this thing. We can't
486
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have this person around. They've been sentenced to death, but
487
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we're not going to make a spectacle of it.
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Excuse me. We're not going to make a spectacle of it.
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We're just going to do this thing and, you know,
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have it go away, have this thing go away. But
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the fact of the matter is, is I'm not sure
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that these lethal injections are the most efficient way.
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It seems like it.
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And if you read how it's done, you're given sedative
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first and then you're given something that makes you go
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to sleep. And then there's the lethal part of it.
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So the idea is, OK, you get this. System of
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drugs and you pass away peacefully, but it doesn't often
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happen that way. I don't know if any of you
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have ever seen actual footage of a firing squad, but
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I can tell you it's pretty instant. That's rarely done
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in the United States. Electric chair, I'm not too sure
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about either. That can be pretty anguishing. Hanging, I suppose,
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is still an option. Now, I heard rumors, I don't
505
00:32:12.069 --> 00:32:15.349
know if this is true, that Krista Pike did request that,
506
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but I don't know if that can be done in
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the legal ease of the nation and all the different states.
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I don't know. But there are efficient ways to kill
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people in terms of execution if that is what we
510
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decide to do, and maybe we need.
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To revisit that.
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These lethal injections as being a humane way to go, because.
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I'm not sure they are.
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A lot of people have asked, you know, why did
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they try to save her then? At the time this
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is being recorded, I do not know Krista Pike's condition,
517
00:32:47.470 --> 00:32:51.079
my understanding she is alive. In what state, who knows?
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Is she ever going to fully gain consciousness? At this point,
519
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I have no idea. Why were life-giving measures taken? You know,
520
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:04.529
at the second... time they administered this and it didn't work,
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you're faced with a choice. You're up against a precedent.
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What do you do now? There's a good chance the
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00:33:10.970 --> 00:33:12.910
third one isn't going to work. If you do nothing,
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she could lay there awake all night. You got all
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these witnesses out there. You can't let this continue. Once
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it's given to regular medical personnel, they cannot quote unquote
527
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finish her off. They can't do it. You know, they're
528
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obliged to preserve life. So now as bizarre as it
529
00:33:30.940 --> 00:33:35.240
may seem, we may have Krista Pike who was sentenced
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to death now on life support. As ironic and as
531
00:33:39.529 --> 00:33:45.849
strange as that is. My thing with the death penalty
532
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is this. I don't necessarily have a problem with it.
533
00:33:50.069 --> 00:33:54.400
For example, Ted Bundy got loose, killed some more people.
534
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And I think there are people that are so evil
535
00:33:58.769 --> 00:34:02.029
that they're very hard to contain, especially within the walls
536
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of normal prisons. And you never know when that person,
537
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by some strange coincidence off in the future, is going
538
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to find some reason to get out and do it again.
539
00:34:13.139 --> 00:34:17.400
I believe that is a possibility that you have to consider.
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00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:22.000
With that being said, I'm not necessarily all gung-ho about
541
00:34:22.019 --> 00:34:22.980
the death penalty either.
542
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My criticism.
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of the judicial system when it comes to this kind
544
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of stuff is the amount of time. You know, they
545
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:34.909
talk about justice being swift. It is far from that.
546
00:34:36.750 --> 00:34:42.030
Some of these people commit absolutely heinous crimes. In Texas,
547
00:34:42.050 --> 00:34:44.489
for example, to be considered for the death penalty, it
548
00:34:44.530 --> 00:34:46.349
has to be of what they call a cruel and
549
00:34:46.449 --> 00:34:50.280
unusual nature. Well, there's plenty of those across the country
550
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:54.099
where there's plenty of evidence of There is no debate
551
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:58.659
about the guilt or innocence. It is of an astounding
552
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:03.170
amount of cruel behavior that these people have done. And
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00:35:03.190 --> 00:35:05.170
some of them have a history of doing it as
554
00:35:05.230 --> 00:35:09.710
long as the Declaration of Independence. And what we decide
555
00:35:09.750 --> 00:35:14.900
to do with them takes forever. You know, as far
556
00:35:14.940 --> 00:35:18.579
as I'm concerned, these life sentences should be begun immediately.
557
00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:20.860
The amount of appeals and all this other stuff that
558
00:35:20.940 --> 00:35:23.559
is constantly allowed to drag the system out for years
559
00:35:23.619 --> 00:35:25.840
and years and years has got to stop over these
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kind of cases. And the chances that's the real problem
561
00:35:31.730 --> 00:35:35.510
when we talk about a deterrent. One of the reasons
562
00:35:35.530 --> 00:35:38.469
why the death penalty in severe cases in general aren't
563
00:35:38.489 --> 00:35:43.480
a deterrent is because they're not implemented enough. your chances
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of getting away with a heinous crime anymore, especially under
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00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:49.820
the climate that we're on in today, where we will
566
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.280
just run to these people's defense and give them all
567
00:35:52.340 --> 00:35:56.320
kinds of excuses. You, you know, you're, you weren't as
568
00:35:56.409 --> 00:35:59.449
loved as much as your brother, your mommy loved your
569
00:35:59.510 --> 00:36:04.489
brother more than you and all this other kind of bullshit. Um,
570
00:36:05.010 --> 00:36:07.630
that's the kind of stuff that needs to stop that.
571
00:36:07.650 --> 00:36:11.840
That's the kind of stuff that really, really needs to stop. Um,
572
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:15.760
Moving on, in the news today as well. Not today,
573
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but recently, last few days, last week. Pete Hegzeth, he's
574
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a character. Well, let me play a little bit about
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00:36:25.849 --> 00:36:30.889
what Pete had to say here about the armed forces
576
00:36:31.210 --> 00:36:32.130
and what's going on in them.
577
00:36:33.690 --> 00:36:37.110
But it's worth saying again so that the fake news
578
00:36:37.590 --> 00:36:41.820
understands it. We are no longer the woke department or
579
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the weak department. Simple translation of that, no fatties, no trannies,
580
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:54.260
no beardos, no weirdos, no wimps, no radicals, just warriors.
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Just tough, ready, committed troops. The War Department, as you know,
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is colorblind, gender neutral, and merit-based.
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00:37:06.869 --> 00:37:07.369
All right.
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You can put a good backbeat to that. That kind
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of rhymes pretty well. But is he wrong? Now, before
586
00:37:16.619 --> 00:37:22.219
you come at me, let me just say this. He
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00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:27.960
obviously is trying to be provocative. He obviously is trying
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00:37:28.019 --> 00:37:34.219
to stoke a reaction. And my one criticism of Pete
589
00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:39.519
Hegseth would be of I don't know if that's something
590
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:42.320
somebody in his position should be necessarily doing by his
591
00:37:42.380 --> 00:37:46.360
own standards. We're not supposed to be meddling in social issues.
592
00:37:46.389 --> 00:37:49.250
We shouldn't be trying to stoke them. OK, so he's
593
00:37:49.650 --> 00:37:52.269
he's trying to needle the opposition. He's trying to get
594
00:37:52.289 --> 00:37:58.269
them all riled up. But as a whole. You know,
595
00:37:58.309 --> 00:38:09.519
the military. For the most part, is a battle, a war. Institution.
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That is the reason for its existence. The reason we
597
00:38:14.949 --> 00:38:17.789
have a military is to attack and to defend or
598
00:38:17.829 --> 00:38:23.210
to defend by attacking. And the main function of the
599
00:38:23.250 --> 00:38:27.809
military is to kill, is to blow things up, and
600
00:38:27.909 --> 00:38:34.380
it's to engage the enemy. And under that type of environment,
601
00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:41.579
your only function is should be to keep yourself alive,
602
00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:45.289
to keep the American public alive, and be as efficient
603
00:38:45.369 --> 00:38:49.050
of a warrior as you possibly can be. There's an
604
00:38:49.090 --> 00:38:52.730
old adage that politics does not belong on the battlefield
605
00:38:52.809 --> 00:38:55.309
and unfortunately gets out there in a lot of different ways.
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00:38:56.150 --> 00:39:00.579
Politicians sometimes make political decisions involving the military and they
607
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:03.099
forget what the function of the military is.
608
00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:04.000
It's to attack.
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00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:07.800
It's not to send a message to It's not to
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00:39:07.860 --> 00:39:10.699
stabilize the situation. When you start hearing those types of
611
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:14.320
words coming out of politicians' mouth, it usually means they're
612
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.739
about to get a bunch of service people killed. And
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00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:22.409
quite frankly, a lot of the innocent people, a lot
614
00:39:22.429 --> 00:39:24.969
of the citizens of the areas where these are happening,
615
00:39:25.389 --> 00:39:27.070
you're about to get them killed as well.
616
00:39:29.110 --> 00:39:29.989
Unless you're going to go.
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00:39:30.219 --> 00:39:33.780
in with an overwhelming force, defeat the bad guys and
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00:39:33.820 --> 00:39:35.679
then get the hell out, which is something that we
619
00:39:35.699 --> 00:39:38.599
have a problem with doing as well. If you're doing
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00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:43.070
anything other than that, you're meddling in something that shouldn't
621
00:39:43.090 --> 00:39:48.139
be meddled with. And from that aspect, I get what
622
00:39:48.179 --> 00:39:54.510
Pete Hegseth is saying here. OK, this isn't an institution that,
623
00:39:55.409 --> 00:39:58.230
you know, for social change, that's not what that's not
624
00:39:58.269 --> 00:40:01.610
what it's
there for. You know, for 250 years, the
625
00:40:01.650 --> 00:40:06.750
military had one function and that's it. So I don't know.
626
00:40:06.769 --> 00:40:11.769
I've heard different things, but I I noticed a lot
627
00:40:11.789 --> 00:40:17.340
of videos about him. visiting military bases and, you know,
628
00:40:17.380 --> 00:40:19.619
doing workouts with them. And how many of these guys
629
00:40:20.380 --> 00:40:22.920
could actually do workouts with the troops? I'll give them that.
630
00:40:24.059 --> 00:40:26.590
But it seems like I don't know if there's a
631
00:40:26.650 --> 00:40:28.489
way of gauging this. I don't know if they can
632
00:40:28.550 --> 00:40:32.090
pull the military somehow, but it seems as though he's
633
00:40:32.130 --> 00:40:35.840
well liked within the military and morale is very good. Um,
634
00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:39.170
but here again, that's not a scientific, I'm not aware
635
00:40:39.230 --> 00:40:41.650
of any scientific poll that has assessed this. It just
636
00:40:41.690 --> 00:40:46.070
seems that, uh, a lot of people like this warrior
637
00:40:46.489 --> 00:40:51.650
ethos that he is bringing to the military and.
638
00:40:52.019 --> 00:40:54.239
Um, you know, like him or not.
639
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:56.480
And I know here again, like I said, he was
640
00:40:57.260 --> 00:41:00.739
in my estimation and trying to be provocative there, but, uh,
641
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:04.449
I get his point and, uh, um, I'm kind of, he,
642
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:07.579
in a roundabout way, if he would have said it differently,
643
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:11.760
I get where he's coming from. And here again, we
644
00:41:11.780 --> 00:41:17.019
don't need a lot of social, political wranglings going on
645
00:41:17.059 --> 00:41:19.300
within the military. Let me wrap this up with what's
646
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:24.510
going on with France. And, you know, this thing with
647
00:41:24.550 --> 00:41:30.130
France right now, if you're not familiar, there's these France,
648
00:41:30.510 --> 00:41:37.289
in France, there's these quote unquote protests we use that
649
00:41:37.329 --> 00:41:41.329
word protest very selectively whoever is burning something down when
650
00:41:41.349 --> 00:41:43.469
they're on our side we call it a protest when
651
00:41:43.510 --> 00:41:47.309
it's on their side we call it a riot but
652
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:58.239
this started out as students apparently who were unhappy with
653
00:41:58.260 --> 00:42:01.239
the fact that there were cuts being made to education.
654
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:07.800
Okay Fine. Now this has continued to go on.
655
00:42:07.860 --> 00:42:10.519
And it seems like the protesters who are so worried
656
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:16.449
about the educational system started burning down schools, started burning
657
00:42:16.489 --> 00:42:23.409
down institutions horribly. And I mean, this is horrible. They
658
00:42:23.469 --> 00:42:29.170
actually sent set a
firefighter on fire. They threw a
659
00:42:29.269 --> 00:42:33.139
chemical on him and set him on fire. Now, this
660
00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:38.500
is in protesting. Okay. They threw some sort of an
661
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:43.469
acid or inflammatory advice in the face of a school teacher.
662
00:42:45.030 --> 00:42:47.909
And these are people that's, okay, come on. Enough with
663
00:42:47.929 --> 00:42:58.380
the bullshit about students. These are terrorists. And the amount
664
00:42:58.389 --> 00:43:02.170
of people involved in this Going by some of the analysis,
665
00:43:02.190 --> 00:43:03.610
going by some of the footage, there's a lot of
666
00:43:03.630 --> 00:43:07.650
people here who are from outside the country and have
667
00:43:07.670 --> 00:43:11.789
a certain ideology. Dare I say what it is. These
668
00:43:11.809 --> 00:43:16.869
are Hamas supporters. I ran across a conservative commentator who
669
00:43:16.909 --> 00:43:23.659
made the comment that, yeah, in France, they're freeing Palestine.
670
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:27.219
And the result is what's going on over there right now.
671
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:33.840
They've been liberated and free to do what they want
672
00:43:33.860 --> 00:43:38.739
in France, and this is the result. You know, here again,
673
00:43:38.780 --> 00:43:44.119
that's a politically charged statement, but this is what a
674
00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:46.519
lot of people are describing this as a cautionary tale
675
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:48.739
for what's about to happen in the UK and what
676
00:43:48.780 --> 00:43:52.179
could certainly happen within the United States. This whole thing
677
00:43:52.219 --> 00:43:58.440
about immigration has been contorted badly. by political actors, mostly
678
00:43:58.500 --> 00:44:01.449
on the left, although left and right has taken advantage
679
00:44:01.489 --> 00:44:09.250
of this issue. But criticizing unchecked immigration labels you as
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00:44:09.289 --> 00:44:12.230
some sort of a racist or some sort of a whatever,
681
00:44:12.349 --> 00:44:16.840
anti-immigration person, because that's what the left has used this as.
682
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:21.719
If you say anything to criticize unchecked immigration, you're a hater,
683
00:44:21.780 --> 00:44:23.059
you're this or that or the other thing.
684
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:24.960
And I remember.
685
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:30.719
Senator Kennedy, he made an excellent remark. He said, when
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you lock your doors at night, you don't do it
687
00:44:34.710 --> 00:44:39.949
because you hate everybody else in the world. You do
688
00:44:39.989 --> 00:44:42.750
it because you don't want anybody to come into your
689
00:44:42.789 --> 00:44:48.269
home when you don't know who they are. And that's
690
00:44:48.289 --> 00:44:52.239
what this thing is about border security. It's not anti-immigration.
691
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:58.670
Just about everybody that I know isn't anti-immigration. I very
692
00:44:58.789 --> 00:45:03.909
seldom hear anybody say anything negative about the current immigration system.
693
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:10.639
You know, in the 1920s and the 1930s during the Depression,
694
00:45:11.579 --> 00:45:13.280
a lot of people came to the United States because
695
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:17.869
it was their only hope. And immigration has happened in
696
00:45:18.250 --> 00:45:21.969
various cases since then, where you just have somebody who
697
00:45:22.860 --> 00:45:25.000
looks at the United States as a beacon of hope.
698
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:27.659
I don't know how many, because of the podcast in particular,
699
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:29.579
I've talked to interviewed a lot of people from across
700
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:32.300
the world. Everybody thinks about the United States is what
701
00:45:32.340 --> 00:45:36.539
they see in movies. Like it's just this utopian place
702
00:45:37.260 --> 00:45:41.519
where there's all these great things and they learn English
703
00:45:41.739 --> 00:45:47.860
in their native land because the general feeling is, is
704
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you got to speak the language of the United States and,
705
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To be.
706
00:45:51.730 --> 00:45:52.809
Successful in the world.
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00:45:53.349 --> 00:45:55.590
Of course, when we say that here in the United States,
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we're called a racist or some other kind of bullshit.
709
00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:03.840
But it's held up as this thing. And most immigrants
710
00:46:04.059 --> 00:46:07.340
come here legally with the idea that they're going to
711
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:10.210
work hard and make their dream come true. Just like
712
00:46:10.230 --> 00:46:13.550
the immigrants did during the Depression. Just like my grandfather did.
713
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And these were people that didn't come here with the
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idea of they're going to make the United States like
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where they came from. They came here with the idea
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they're going to learn the language. They're going to learn
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the skills they need to succeed in the economy here.
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And they're going to build a life around the American
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ideals because the American ideals are what made this country
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the kind of place that they wanted to come to. Now,
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it doesn't necessarily mean that the United States is the
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best place for everybody in the world, but certainly for
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a lot of people with that criteria, it is. I mean,
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there aren't too many countries around the world who everybody's
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trying to get in.
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Okay.
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I mean, the United States, there's people who cheer up
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and down and praise the Lord above when they become
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a United States citizen. And it just doesn't happen that
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way around the world too often.
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Okay. Yeah.
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That's a dream that I don't think any of us
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want to try to take away from anybody. But there's
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a difference between that and just having people pour across
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the border. Totally unchecked. And what gets me is the
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people that really championed that idea of open borders were
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the people that wanted you to lose your job if
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you didn't take the COVID vaccine. How many vaccines did
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these people they let just pour in across the border?
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How many of them were vaccinated against anything? For some reason,
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they didn't. That was not a big deal. Millions upon
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millions of them. So when we hear a lot about
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different things breaking out and everybody saw, oh, that's because
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we're anti-vaccine. Now, well, that may be a part of it.
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But it also might be that we let untold millions
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of people into this country thoroughly unchecked. From parts of
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the world, we have no idea exactly where they came
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from or what they brought in with them. And now
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the attitude isn't, I'm going to come here. I love America.
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I want to learn what made America great and make
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that work for me. That's not what they're doing. They're
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coming from a place that they claim that they're not
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safe in. They come to the United States extolling the
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virtues of the place that they claim hates them. And
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they want to change America when they don't get what
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they want. They burn it down. They hate the people
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that they're around. They hate the country that they came
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to claiming that they weren't safe or they couldn't be
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successful where they were. And. You mix that in a
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lot of these riots I'm theorizing in France right now.
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There's some local people doing that as well. This is
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all part of an entitlement culture that is going unchecked,
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whether it's citizens or whether.
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It's coming in just.
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Unchecked across the border. People now expect, you know, you
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give them $ 5 and they look at you and say,
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is that all you got? There's this entitlement culture now
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that if they don't get what they want, they're going
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to make somebody pay for not giving them what they want.
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And It's going to hurt the function of the world
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because it's not just in the United States. It's certainly
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that way throughout Europe. It's that way in other countries.
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I would say probably not China. Probably not the Asiatic cultures.
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Probably they understand, you know, they come here with a
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shirt on their back. And within a couple of years,
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their kids are at the top of the honor roll.
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They speak fluent English. It's not because they're better than
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everybody else. It's because they have a culture which understands
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and appreciates work. They respect their parents. They respect their teachers.
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They respect the ideal of work. We have none of
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that in Western culture. Absolutely none of it to amount
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to anything. Maybe in the top five or 10%, there's a,
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If you take a country of ours, like 350 million,
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there's probably several million who are just absolutely brilliant people.
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And they are carrying what the success that the United
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States has. They're the ones that are developing all the
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shit that we all take pride in. And more and more,
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there's more people in the wagon than there is pulling it.
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And here again, I don't want anybody to die in
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the street of poverty. I do believe we need health
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care reform. I don't think anybody should be wiped out
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because they've had a bad disease. But that's not what
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we're talking about here. We are talking about an entitlement
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culture that wants to do next to nothing,
wants to
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punish successful people through socialism, Make them out to be
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the villains. But they want all the comforts. That hard
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work provide. And they somehow think. That that is an entitlement.
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And when they don't get their way. You get what's
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happening in France. And you get what's happening in Greece.
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And you get what's happening in other places around the world.
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Not critically in France right now. But they've had. Altruistic.
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Problems with. Things like that all through Europe.
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So anyway.
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That's kind of our recap. This is our commentary podcast
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for this time period that we're in. We have a
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lot of things coming up. We have more commentary. We
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have more discussion shows. And we have more interviews with
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some really great authors and some people from the showbiz world.
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So a lot coming up through the month of October
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and November. So thank you so much for listening. Like
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I told you before, you can find the Billy Dee's
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podcast anywhere you find podcasts.
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We are on all the platforms. We do not have paywalls.
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You can subscribe for free, and we would love to
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have you. You can find me on most social media platforms,
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but probably I'm going to say X, which is the
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former Twitter. You can find me there at Billy Dee's.
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Thank you so much for checking out our program today.
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And we will be talking to you soon again.
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Very, very soon.
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I'm Billy Dees and host of the self-titled podcast, The
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Billy Dees Podcast. We are primarily an interview and a
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commentary-based podcast featuring authors and creators talking about their craft,
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advocates for community issues, and myself and an array of
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co-hosts discussing current events. There's no partisan ranting and raving
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going on here, just great content. You can find The
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Billy Dees Podcast on your favorite platform and on Twitter,
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at Billy Dees.
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Thank you, and I hope you listen in.