Jeffrey Morgan - Getting unstuck and taking action in your life. First Nations Lifestyle Program.의 전체 녹취록

00:03:48.800 Welcome to the podcast, the fourth episode. 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:52.560 I'm so excited about the guest I've got today. 00:03:53.039 --> 00:04:00.960 This fella runs an increasingly successful online fitness enterprise. 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:03.840 And I can't wait to get into his story. 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:13.759 Without further ado, I think I'm gonna dive right into it and hand over to my brother to uh introduce himself as he would like to be introduced. 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:15.280 Over to you, Braz. 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:17.920 Hey, Superman? 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:18.319 Nice. 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:23.600 I'm a proud Camilla Roy man. 00:04:23.759 --> 00:04:24.879 My name's Jeffrey Morgan. 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:26.000 I am a nutritionist. 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:28.000 I was a trainer for 29 years. 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:48.319 Uh I still am registered as such, but turned into a health and well-being uh well-being consultant for New South Wales and ACT Health, and run everything from school programs through to corporate health and well-being community projects for Aboriginal and non-Aboriginal communities and um high performance teams. 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:56.240 Uh, I travel the country delivering uh habits and rituals workshops, tapping into mindfulness, well-being, and your health. 00:04:56.399 --> 00:05:05.199 Um so that's a bit of an introduction, hopefully, about myself and sort of gives you a bit of a background of what I do. 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:06.720 Yeah, deadly. 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:14.000 So we've got yeah, Jeffrey Morgan lifestyle on on the line with us, and it's so interesting to hear your background. 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:20.319 Um, you know, having such a long history in health, it sounds. 00:05:20.560 --> 00:05:28.560 Um, before I kind of get into talking about that, because I'm really interested to understand your journey into fitness and into health. 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:34.319 Um, I'm just curious to understand what it was like um growing up for you. 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:36.959 Where so you said you're a Camilleroy man. 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:42.720 Um, yeah, I'm I'm keen to know a little bit more about your your personal story, bros. 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:47.600 Well, um family, I am a Camilleroy man from Walgroup. 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:51.600 The family's from Walgreens, but I grew up in um Everley Street Ripment. 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:57.040 Uh I always say one of the most notorious streets ever in Australia's history for the wrong reasons. 00:05:57.199 --> 00:06:06.319 Um, and out of that, obviously seeing the health issues within the community made me super passionate about um seeing our mob live longer and stronger. 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:07.839 Uh, even from a young age. 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:17.279 At 14 years of age, I I remember writing out a lot of stuff that I wanted to achieve in my life because there was a lot of dysfunction and destruction within the community in the nicest way. 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:22.319 And I just felt that we could um do more so that our families could live longer. 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:29.839 And I, you know, to identify it at 14, I obviously seen a lot of pain, heartache, suffering, you know, people being buried when they shouldn't have been. 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:36.800 And for me, that you know, that's where passion grew to look after myself and try and learn not to end up in the same position. 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:49.279 That's what it sort of grew out of, and then started to obviously think, you know, I'd love to do something around this as a um career, uh, turn my passion into a career, and ultimately, you know, that's what exactly what I did. 00:06:49.439 --> 00:07:00.000 And um that became my why ultimately long term, uh, I then created a vision which turned into the lifestyle program and on online program, which I haven't spoken about. 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:08.000 And we've got a ton of clients, same thing from across the world, um, in that program, jumping in, trying to lose weight, um, and just teaching them. 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:24.079 It was more, you know, something I learned from a young age, especially growing up in Redfern, was the habits that you obtain um are from, you know, those that are of value to yourself, the experiences of life in general, the formative use and you know, the role modeling as such from whoever it is within your life. 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:28.480 And unfortunately, if they're destructive and then negative, then you're gonna take those on. 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:33.199 And for me, I had to then tap into and then change and become who I am today. 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:46.319 And um, I've left that person behind, but it's also taught me high value, and I still go back and appreciate the person I was to teach me the value I could pass on to others, um, to create a healthier, happier, and more successful life. 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:49.439 And it's been, you know, honestly, it's been a journey. 00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:57.600 And as much as some people say, Oh, I wish I had my life different and I had a million dollars and you know, was able to drive a nice car or whatever it may be. 00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:01.279 For me, it's just been an ultimate journey to go through that struggle. 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:12.639 Now, every single thing that I do in life is appreciated, um, and more so elevated on a different level because we had nothing, and you know, I get anything. 00:08:12.720 --> 00:08:16.879 Um, it doesn't have to be a million-dollar car, it could be a t-shirt as an example. 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:18.399 I'm super grateful for that. 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:22.800 If you share my your time with me like you are now, I'm super grateful for that. 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:24.959 And that just elevates everything in life. 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:31.519 And uh so a lot of people just said, Oh, I don't want to talk about being that person and and 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forth. 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:39.200 For me, as I said, it's just elevated a lot of things in life and amplified the happiness that's come into my life. 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:43.120 Had a peanut butter toasted this morning in some of the peanut butter toast. 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:47.279 You need someone to go for it, my brother. 00:08:47.519 --> 00:09:03.679 I guess for the people who are, you know, at um not in Australia, um, red fern is um, you know, correct me if I'm wrong here too, bros, but it's it's deeply rooted in Aboriginal history here in Australia. 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:10.000 It's um, you know, some say that it's the birthplace of the black power movement here. 00:09:10.320 --> 00:09:20.960 And um yeah, it's one of the former missions um in Sydney, New South Wales, that I guess is kind of in later years, as I understand. 00:09:21.039 --> 00:09:27.120 I'm not a traditional owner from there, but from the mob who I'm connected with that it's just been reclaimed as a black space. 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:31.200 Um and so, yeah, how interesting. 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:40.240 Um to grow up at the time of a of a political movement, and people were so focused on rights. 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:57.759 I guess, you know, at times when we are focused on the greater oppression and systems, you know, sometimes the mob just lacks some of the means, hey, to look after themselves um and to live happy and healthy lives. 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:03.039 I'm wondering if uh, yeah, we could talk a little bit about that in your line of work. 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:05.039 With two of those things really quickly. 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:05.360 Yeah. 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:19.840 The fact that Pep can't afford, you know, the foods that um different uh socioeconomic areas would be able to afford and allow themselves that health through the foods that they put into their mouth versus you know being able to join a gym. 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:23.279 Um we were lucky enough to have Mundine's gym at the bottom of it. 00:10:23.360 --> 00:10:26.159 But you've got to think about the education side of things as well. 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:33.120 Um my parents weren't allowed in the schools, and if they were, they would probably, you know, imagine the racism and and so forth, they would have coped. 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:42.320 Um and then be put on this side of school versus that would have been just imagine the mental health stress that was um uh attached to that. 00:10:42.399 --> 00:11:14.720 And I think on the back end of that, you know, if you're suffering on a mental health level, you don't have the education in the nicest way around how to keep yourself as healthy as you possibly can on a physical, on a nutritional, on a mindset level, of course, then on the back end of trauma, that's just gonna add this big um fireball of um destruction and uh you know negative thoughts and um and negative sort of behaviors and outcomes because of just the education level behind it and the um affordability. 00:11:14.879 --> 00:11:24.240 Uh and I think you know, it's something I've touched on um with New South Wales and ACT Health when they want to do programs around healthy lunchboxes as an example. 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:27.039 I say don't worry about the lunchbox or what's in it. 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:29.679 Can they actually afford what we're about to recommend? 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:32.159 Because that's the biggest, as you know. 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:55.840 And to make sure that it's more about the role modeling and how can we put together a program by a means test as an example that allows some young kids like myself who didn't get breakfast um or lunch or maybe even dinner for days on end um to be able to get the food that they required just to have energy for the day, um, like any other human being, to then go in and actually feel um right to study. 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:59.120 Imagine sitting there not eating all day and say you travel at work. 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:00.960 And people go, Why does the kid play out? 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:08.559 Of course the kids are gonna play out, be starving, and you know um, people are gonna make choices to survive even as young at a young age. 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:17.200 Wow, I think um it's amazing to hear that your program offers such a level of holistic support. 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:27.200 I mean, personally, it kind of just it blows my mind about the the pay inequity in Australia. 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:33.919 You know, we are one of the wealthiest countries in the world, the wealthiest developed countries in the world. 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:42.000 Um, and I think it's like one in five kids or something that I was reading recently still go without breakfast of a morning. 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:51.120 Um so I think it's fantastic that your program offers a level of sustainability for these families. 00:12:51.600 --> 00:13:10.799 Um, and it kind of sounds to me that that sort of resourcefulness kind of stems a lot from of your formative years um growing up in Redfern and um what an inspiration to, you know, come from the struggle and then want to give back to to our communities. 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:20.159 The way I grew up, I just took all the skills that I learned on on a destructive um bad path then and applied them into a business sense. 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:30.000 And I still had the principles of um everything I did there, but obviously just learn a better way to do that in a positive way without being destructive, and my life elevated. 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:40.639 And that's one thing I'd share with anybody that watches watches this believe and achieve, um believe in yourself when you'll achieve anything that you want in your life, and it comes down to what you do and the actions you take. 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:46.159 And the biggest thing I for me to change, I had to rewire the patterns of behavior in my head. 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:48.960 So to

make money, I thought about a destructive way. 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:56.799 What was a new way I could start to make money, but use the skills that I had and the drive and the passion and fold into something I was passionate about. 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:00.559 And when you do something around your passion, the rest of all is in the place. 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:02.080 You won't have to do much. 00:14:02.399 --> 00:14:02.799 Absolutely. 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:09.440 Wow, I'm just so deeply inspired uh to hear your story. 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:20.960 Thank you for sharing and you know how you've been able to turn that into an act of service, um, one that is so deeply needed in this country, I guess. 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:32.480 Um, you know, many of you may know, but in Australia, we have an initiative that's been running for the last 10 years now, um, and it's called Closing the Gap. 00:14:32.559 --> 00:14:39.360 And it's about, you know, closing the health gap between us and non-Aboriginal people. 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:48.080 Um, in Australia, we're still more likely to die eight or nine years earlier than non-Aboriginal counterparts. 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:56.080 Um, and that's not by poor choices and not eating vegetables or rocking up to, you know, your your appointments. 00:14:56.320 --> 00:15:08.000 It's through um systemic uh oppression and racism and the heavy, heavy scars that remain post-colonization. 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:35.600 And I just say, yeah, massive kudos to you and the work that you're doing, um, so that we can have some of the tools to live a healthy and happy life, one that um is is meaningful um because we all deserve to have a a quality of life. 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:38.559 Um and yeah, so thank you. 00:15:38.799 --> 00:15:44.159 You know, what what led you on that path to finding your passion amongst all of this? 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:52.000 Probably touching back on where I grew up and you know, um, seeing those health issues, and I just knew there had to be a better way. 00:15:52.159 --> 00:16:05.279 Why were other people, as you touched on, living longer than ourselves or living as you touched on, and one of the most important words and one of my pillars within the th the three pillars of the my program quality of life, happiness, and success. 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:06.960 What does that look like for the individual? 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:12.639 And you touch on the fact that we lived 10 years younger, but I you'd know this and I'd know this. 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:30.559 Well, everybody watching whether you're overseas or in Australia, even though we lived 10 years younger than everybody else, a lot of people on medication, a lot of people are under constant stress, and I'm talking constant stress, whether it's financial, racism, uh dealing with things, and I want to relate this to yourself. 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:33.039 You think, oh, you know, just get over it and move on. 00:16:33.279 --> 00:17:00.320 If you've got social media and I jump on your social media and I write something negative towards a post that you've posted up, say you post it up and you're feeling great about yourself, and I'm and I jump on as a female, um, would you be happy if I jumped on your page and wrote um your up yourself or something of that nature, and it's just uh, you know, maybe it was my opinion, this is just an example for everybody. 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:06.880 And then someone jumps on and goes, Well, I just feel great about myself, and I said, Um, you just think you're too good. 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:12.640 And uh, when I and this is what Aboriginal people um copy on a regular basis. 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:21.519 Empathy these days is out the window, and people only uh if it doesn't fit your narrative, then you flick it out the door. 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:28.880 And unfortunately, Black Lives Matter, um you know, everyone jumped on board and it was great of that nature. 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:34.319 But if you were truly about Black Lives Matter, and I mean this in a in in the nicest way, understand this. 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:41.440 For me as an Aboriginal person, I don't see colour, I just see another human who I should respect out of common humanity. 00:17:41.599 --> 00:18:06.240 And if you give the respect back, I'll give I don't care if colour has no role in me interacting as a person or an individual, but the quality of life of our people is impacted because we're it's more around the education behind the history of Australia as an example, and all the world and we know more about World War II and the Nazis than we do about Aboriginal people and what actually happened in our country. 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:25.119 Because when we had that conversation, I've seen a 15-year-old kid um post a great it was a great post, and the kid goes, you know, in history for year 10 or year 12, there was 10 weeks, and he spent nine weeks on the American Revolution and one week on Australian history, and a small component of that was the Aboriginal history. 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:30.079 What if we flipped that nine weeks and made that nine weeks into learning about Australia's history? 00:18:30.400 --> 00:18:49.519 Remember, Aboriginal history is Australian history, and we merged that and then started to educate people to empower people to a sound and better understanding of what our country, our country, went through, so we can get on and be more united and more love and care and respect for one another rather than bouncing off. 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:54.960 And this is where that quality of life on the back end of that, it takes a hit because you're constantly getting hit. 00:18:55.039 --> 00:19:02.720 And as I said, you know, whether it's um different components of being an Aboriginal person um does impact your stress levels. 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:13.200 And as I said, if you had somebody who was bullying you, someone who's telling you you're not pretty, you're not

good enough, you're not strong enough, that's as an Aboriginal person what we call quite a lot. 00:19:13.279 --> 00:19:27.440 Um, whether I'm being super positive um quite often because um we're an Aboriginal person, and that hopefully that explanation sort of gives you a bit of context and insight into how we can all get on a lot better. 00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:46.400 Because I can guarantee you as angry as some Aboriginal people may be, if you come with respect and you listen and you hear what's being said, and we communicate together and then we look at what we can do together as a nation and learn from one another, we'll grow and prosper. 00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:48.160 Um it's as simple as that. 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:49.440 Absolutely. 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:53.519 Yeah, gosh, there's so much to unpack there. 00:19:54.240 --> 00:20:04.960 I think the the example of social media is a really good one because it's one that we all kind of fundamentally understand. 00:20:05.279 --> 00:20:12.480 And um, yeah, the example that you've kind of drawn on, which is being constantly teared down. 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:17.920 Um gosh, language is so vital. 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:25.759 The language, the words that we use to even define the problems is how we kind of do the solutions. 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:41.680 I mean, a lot of the clients I work with when we go into some of that kind of intensive healing work around mindset and limiting beliefs, um, a lot of it is looking at the words and the language they use. 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:46.960 You know, I can't do this versus I can't do this yet. 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:50.480 You know, that one word yet has so much weight. 00:20:50.640 --> 00:20:57.119 So, you know, I I really do believe that language is critical in this conversation. 00:20:57.359 --> 00:21:10.960 And unfortunately, in this history, in this country, there's a history of looking at black and brown folk through a lens of less than or some othering that occurs. 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:16.000 And of course, over time that that erodes at your self-confidence. 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:36.559 You know, often I like to reflect and think about um, yeah, what if the the that and I don't want to borderline into some Marxist kind of conversation, but what if the measurement of happiness and success wasn't how productive we were? 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:45.519 Um, it was how we were connected to each other and this land and the culture. 00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:59.440 And, you know, when I think about that, and I think we're all searching for this kind of spirituality or um, you know, something other than what we have, some higher purpose, some divine intervention, whatever it is. 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:08.799 Um, I just think that it's a it's a kind of a missed opportunity for our schools to not be educating people about our culture. 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:20.480 Um Aboriginal people have such a sophisticated and nuanced way of looking after um ourselves and

each other and and our interrelating. 00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:24.079 And yeah, I think we do have a long way to go. 00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:26.480 But I'm always, always optimistic. 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:33.359 Um and I think, I think, yeah, it's just a missed opportunity in this country that we're not learning about it. 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:36.480 You know, that said, I am seeing some changes. 00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:41.039 I'm seeing some uh pretty progressive schools really step up. 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:43.119 Um, so big shout out to them. 00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:52.240 But I think you're right, we do have a bit to go here and and White Australia does have a black history and one that we should all be bloody proud of. 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:52.880 Yeah. 00:22:53.119 --> 00:22:56.720 Yeah, I'll I'll call it changing the language to change the outcome. 00:22:56.880 --> 00:23:17.759 And even for me, I've got into the habit of just talking about human beings, other human beings, and I don't want to talk colour anymore because in the end I feel that even that then is is impacting or trying to sort of push a particular agenda, um, or someone may feel that it's um looked upon uh uh uh that particular way. 00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:21.759 So for me, it's just for fellow Australians, um, so we can get on. 00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:35.200 And I think one of the most important things Redfront taught me growing up in an uh community where I was told I was no good in the media, the local police, the community around us, and taxi drivers wouldn't drive you know into the area. 00:23:35.440 --> 00:23:38.480 You said Redfront, they like get out of the taxi as an example. 00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:45.599 Yeah, um, it taught me to be super resilient and block out the external and just focus on the internal. 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:50.960 And when I knew what my happiness, my success, and my quality of life look like, and you touched on it before. 00:23:51.119 --> 00:24:01.759 And it's very funny because when I do a corporate health and well-being program, you'll find that yeah, it's a big house, nice car, family, be able to travel, money in the bank, etc. 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:02.319 etc. 00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:07.279 And versus I think the bat, yeah, it's each to the own world, actually. 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:12.079 This is my opinion on everything, obviously, around how you can amplify your life. 00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:17.599 And I take it from being an Aboriginal person, Mother Earth is one of the most beautiful things on this planet. 00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:24.319 You can go down and watch the sunrise, and you can feel just as good as you would feel buying a new car. 00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:37.039 And I think if you know it costs you absolutely nothing, put a partner next to yourself that you, you know, you got love or care for, or your family as an example, and you need zero dollars to get out that happiness. 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:41.759 Um, and that could be determined for me, is determined as success. 00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:59.440 To be able to do that on a regular basis in my calendar and know that I'm doing that on a Friday morning with my aunt going down to the beach and watching the sun come up to make sure that my soul is enriched and my internal battery is charged around how my happiness and success looks like. 00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:07.039 If I get the nice car and if I get the nice house after that, then it's only adding value to what I already see. 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:24.240 And my value or my base level comes from a lot of stuff that is free to every single person, and you know, treating somebody nice, that you can walk past somebody and say, Hey uh morning, and you'll find that if you have a great attitude the way you say that, that's okay, morning, now say it back to yourself. 00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:30.000 And that costs zero dollars to respect and be kind to other human beings, and that's where I'm coming from. 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:37.680 And once I get that car, if it happens because I've followed my passion, then it's only a bonus and it's only value. 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:50.400 But imagine how good I feel about getting in a car because I already feel good just about being in nature, being alive, seeing, hearing, breathing, and knowing that life is precious and they want this beautiful thing we call Australia. 00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:58.880 And um, you know, we as Aboriginal people appreciate the country uh and respect it and only take what you need as such. 00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:03.680 Um, and from that, when I get that card, it's amplified by a million. 00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:13.920 If I you know get a partner that I connect with, amplify by another million, and all of a sudden, you know, people uh then I go into the Aboriginal community and say, What's your success look like? 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:15.839 And they go, I don't really care about success. 00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:20.480 I go, yeah, but you're thinking on a money money and a financial or materialistic level. 00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:23.279 I want you to think about what your success looks like. 00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:26.240 Is it to go back on country and learn your own language? 00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:27.759 And I go, yeah, that'd be awesome. 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:30.319 I go, that would would that be success to you? 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:31.039 I don't know. 00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:37.680 You you determine it, but start to think laterally that it just doesn't have to be about materialistic things. 00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:54.880 Owning a Gucci or Prada bag is an example, but maybe being able to go and explore the country, sit on top of the mountain, watch the sun go down with your partner, and know that that was one little box that you wanted to tick, and that could be your own vision or purpose behind your own success. 00:26:55.039 --> 00:27:00.160 So start to think outside the box and watch your life elevate.

00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:01.599 I love that. 00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:08.079 And I think you know, there's so much evidence about the importance of gratitude and and being appreciative of what you have. 00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:16.400 And I guess that's unfortunately like coming from not a lot, when we do start to have things, we we are very appreciative. 00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:20.720 But this notion you're talking about, which is controlling your internal world, I love that. 00:27:20.880 --> 00:27:31.519 I mean, there's gonna be there's always shit going on in your family, in community, in uh what we're seeing with you know social justice. 00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:37.519 And it's important to have a voice and and elevate the voice of community, of course. 00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:44.559 But we also have to look after ourselves and we have to make sure that our cups are full so we can be there for others. 00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:52.480 And my nan used to say that if you're gonna go into the battleground, you've got to be well and you've got to be strong to be going back in the battleground. 00:27:52.640 --> 00:28:01.519 And that that that notion of being able to control your internal world while everything's happening is is so is so beautiful. 00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:05.680 And I guess with that, you know, bras, I'm curious to understand with your program. 00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:12.480 So if we could talk a little bit about your actual program, because I imagine that'd be helping people control their internal worlds. 00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:15.680 Um yeah, what does that what does the program look like? 00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:24.000 So the workshops in general, as I said, work around those three pillars, your quality of life, your happiness, and your success, determined by yourself. 00:28:24.160 --> 00:28:30.559 And what we do, or what I do is get out and make people realize there's two forms of life, existing or living. 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:36.720 And then I get them to write out everything that's important to themselves in around these different particular lists that we put together. 00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:40.319 And then on the back end, there's a whole heap of different components and subjects. 00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:43.759 But they start to realize that they're just going through the grind of things. 00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:50.319 And a lot of people and a lot of studies recently have shown that people that are interviewed when they get older, they ask them what did they regret most. 00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:56.799 And it wasn't like, you know, I had a failed business, I cheated on my partner, I broke my leg or something of that nature. 00:28:57.039 --> 00:28:58.559 I didn't travel to this country. 00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:02.000 It was all sorry, it was all about the stuff that they didn't do. 00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:04.640 I didn't travel to Greece and I always wanted to go there. 00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:17.359 I didn't go to Disneyland, I wanted to go there, I didn't get married and I always wanted to do that, whatever it may have been, because they never put themselves, they were too busy, or they life just caught up, caught, you know, caught up on themselves. 00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:24.640 And I think what I do is I get them to slow it down to speed it up, meaning write out what their happiness, success, and quality of life looks like. 00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:31.519 And that then gives them a vision to take them out of the existence to start creating something where they are actually living within their life. 00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:47.839 And people, you know, the comments I get all the time is I've had a light bulb moment, and I've had a lot of people cry within the thing because they realize think about this: you come out of school, you go through school, come out of school, you go into what uni or you go into work. 00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:50.400 And a lot of people take what type of work? 00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:54.559 Anything that's gonna pay the bills because you're old enough now and you want to start to support yourself. 00:29:54.720 --> 00:30:06.480 Maybe you're partying, it's an interesting world, maybe you're running your own life, and all of a sudden you got to about 30 and you start to go or even 25, 30, you know, and you're like, maybe I should start a business or head in the direction of where I want to head. 00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:08.480 Some of you hit success, some of you don't. 00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:20.160 But in general, a lot of people then might not start that business and just go in the grind or going to work every single day, get up at nine, get up early in the morning, run through the old process, do your hair as an example. 00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:24.799 Um, I won't it wouldn't take me too long on in the current environment. 00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:41.680 But in general, like on a on a really serious note, it it literally goes through a daily grind that is just the same thing, groundhog day, day in, day out, and then all of a sudden they look at time and they go, Far, I'm 60 years of age, and I didn't jump out of an airplane. 00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.519 I wanted to always jump out of an airplane, I wanted to scuba dive in Bali. 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:57.759 I wanted whatever it is that you want to do, if you don't know what that looks like, and you don't create a vision, purpose, and why behind your life, I guarantee that life will always be too busy for yourself. 00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:03.599 And as long as you let that be the excuse that you tell yourself, your brain will only hear what you tell it. 00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:06.079 And guess what it will do on the back end of that? 00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:11.680 It will just listen before you get to an age where it's too old and you just live in with a lot of regret. 00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:26.079 And anything I I know anybody that's watching this will know when you do something or have something of regret within

yourself, a lot of people get angry about it because you know they didn't tick off a box around something that was important to them. 00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:32.000 So do yourself a favor, really create a vision, purpose, and why behind your life, and that's you, not me. 00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:35.359 I might want the Lamborghini, you might not want it. 00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:42.079 Each today, write out what it looks like, and then start to create a roadmap slash framework towards your life. 00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:47.440 You know, is it contacting a university to get in contact and do the uni degree that you've always wanted to? 00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:57.920 I did mine when I was really, I didn't come out of school and go straight into uni, I let it slide, and I came out and did it a lot later because I realized in my industry it would give me another little feather to my cap. 00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:04.400 But in general, what is the importance of your life around your success, happiness, and quality of life? 00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:08.240 And remember, success doesn't have to be a materialistic thing. 00:32:08.480 --> 00:32:13.119 Success is ticking off boxes on a regular basis based around what's important to yourself. 00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:17.039 But if you don't have a list to do, what are you ever gonna do? 00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:24.400 You're just gonna go through that everyday groundhold day, and I guarantee life's gonna snatch you away before you're even done what's important to you. 00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:26.079 Yeah, I love that. 00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:34.240 I I mean this whole notion of the busyness syndrome where we're too busy to do X, that's just a bunch of guna, really. 00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:40.720 You know, it's it's it's not being it's not prioritizing the things you need to do. 00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:51.680 I've actually I I've I've tried to, I'm really conscious of the language I use, particularly working with clients, because words have meaning and they carry emotions. 00:32:51.920 --> 00:33:03.119 And I'd I've eradicated the word busy out of my try to get it out of my vocabulary because it is it I try to say I'm productive as opposed to dumping my busyness on people. 00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:16.400 And I think it's because you can fall into this busyness trap, and there's there's so much benefit in creating a sense of freedom that comes with the time and energy you're putting behind things you love. 00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:18.079 And that's what I really like about YES program. 00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:27.519 It sounds to me it's not just it sounds like health and fitness is a huge component, but you're actually working through goals around people's mindsets and actions. 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:31.440 And how many how many people have you seen through your journey to date? 00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:33.279 Have you seen quite a number? 00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:43.599 We well, we count per year, and this year we're up over 80,000 people,

and that's on a corporate juvenile justice, adult um corrections. 00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:57.599 So over 80,000 people, and you know, I know as a trainer, probably realistically, even if you're a great trainer, you show up, you do everything right, you get a probably a 20% return on your investment. 00:33:57.839 --> 00:33:59.680 And I mean that in the nicest way. 00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:03.519 Same thing, because it's about changing what's in set in that person's belief. 00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:17.840 And they're telling themselves, I'm no good, I shouldn't even be in the gym, I'm too fat, I'm too ugly, I'm not strong enough, whatever it is that they're telling themselves, so that small percent of investment I worked at at some point, I mean my brother's suicide, I could transition at this point. 00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:22.480 I said from this point, I'm gonna go into consultancy because I've been meaning to do it. 00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:32.079 At that point in time, I realized if I could impact a say a thousand people even in here and I've got a 10% return of investment, I then get 100 people that I change. 00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:38.159 And I know the people around them, the viable attractive tribe, will start to say, Hey, I'd like to train as well. 00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:39.119 What do you eat? 00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:39.840 How do you do that? 00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:41.119 What and so forth. 00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:52.960 And that meant 500 people would be changed rather than if I had you know 100 clients in here and I've got 10 to change, 50 versus 500, it was a no-brainer, and I transitioned. 00:34:53.039 --> 00:35:08.159 And you know, to have 80,000, if I get 10% of 80,000 do the maths, I'm gonna end up with a huge impact or more of an impact before I leave this planet and a legacy that that will be um well and truly left behind when I leave this planet. 00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:10.159 That for me was my ultimate goal. 00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:13.360 Wow, it's just it's so phenomenal. 00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:20.880 Um, I am so deeply, deeply grateful for your time today and just oh wow, 80,000 people. 00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:23.039 I'm still just kind of thinking about that. 00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:36.960 I mean, as you say, it's not just the 80,000 people that attend the program, but it's those families and those communities and those groups of people that are equally influenced by the change. 00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:41.039 And yeah, you should be so proud of your accomplishments. 00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:46.320 Thank you for your acts of service and your time with me today. 00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:54.400 Now, where can people go to find out more information about yourself and this deadly program, brother? 00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:56.239 Yeah, uh, Jeffrey Morgan. 00:35:56.320 --> 00:36:05.760 Just type in Jeffrey Morgan, J-E-W-F-R-E-Y, uh, and it's Morgan, M-O-I-G-A-N, and it should pop up, um, and you'll see my bad head. 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:08.000 Uh you're amazing. 00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:10.639 I burned some calories from the get-go. 00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:29.519 Yeah, yeah, but I'm on a serious note, or www.jeffreymorgan.com.au um and all the programs on there, and basically we'll send you out the information if you want me to come out of your town, organization, school, community, or as an individual to help change and maybe even save your lives. 00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:32.480 Thank you so, so much again, my brother. 00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:38.000 It has been an absolute honour to listen to you and your story. 00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:48.960 Head over to Jeffrey's Instagram um for some daily dose of inspiring content and some um pretty kick-ass workouts. 00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:52.159 He puts a lot of content out there for free. 00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:54.159 Um, very generous. 00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:58.719 I know that those workouts got some of our mob through COVID. 00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:10.800 Um, in our community, the word mum is bum, and um it's a good way to get off the mums and um to get fit and healthy. 00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:21.039 But I guess in you know, in retrospect of today's conversation to really unpack the mindset, the the values, the why, the purpose. 00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:25.119 So do yourself a favour and head over to Jeff's page. 00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:30.079 Thank you so much for joining me today. 00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:38.960 It honestly fills me with an abundance of gratitude that you've taken time out of your busy lives to come along and listen and learn. 00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:53.679 Please fight and review this podcast or feel free to send me any feedback by visiting my website carolinecanel.com.au Yield spiritually until next time.