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At precisely one minute to midnight. On the third of
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May nineteen twenty six, around one and three quarter million
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workers in Britain walked out as part of a nationwide
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general strike in solidarity with over a million miners who
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had been locked out by their employers. The strength of
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the action took government bosses and union leaders by surprise,
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and the decision to call off the strike after just
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nine days was a calamity that set the labor movement
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back decades. This is working class history.
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Oh you men of time. Coundy did events of call
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with me, little pick and shovel for the boss man
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the collery, But I'll never own your soul with me,
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little pick and shovel.
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Befre.
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This year marks the one hundred year anniversary of the
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nineteen twenty six General Strike. To commemorate the centenery, we've
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teamed up with a number of other organizations, museums and
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history groups to coordinate and promote the various events taking
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place around the country to make sure this hugely significant
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moment in our history is remembered. If you want to
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check out events happening in your town and beyond, go
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to General Strike one hundred dot com, where you'll find
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a map with talks, exhibitions and other events all across
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the UK. The map would also show you dozens of
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historical markers highlighting specific locations in cities, towns, and villages
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where actual events during the strike took place. Over these episodes,
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we'll look at the events of the strike itself, how
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broad and significant its effects were around the country, and
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how it came to an end. We're also really pleased
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to be able to tell this story using the words
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of working class people who actually took part in the strike.
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These interviews recorded by the historian Margaret Morris over half
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a century ago, have been preserved in the TC Library
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collections at London Metropolitan University. So we're really grateful to
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all the staff there whose work means that we're now
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able to bring these first hand testimonies to a wider audience.
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But anyway, to get started with the episode, in order
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to understand the General Strike, it's important first to understand
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what Britain was like at that time.
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In the spring of nineteen twenty six when the strike happened,
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Britain was still deeply, deeply skilled by the horrors of
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the trenches. Many people involved in the trade union movement
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had been at war or had lost family in the war.
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So the kind of idea of a collectively shell shocked
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nation is I think a very powerful one.
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This is Judy Cox, co author of Revisiting the General
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Strike of nineteen twenty six When Workers Were Ready to
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Dare will include a link to buy the book on
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the web page for this series link in the show notes.
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I think as well as the experience of the horrors
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of the war, there was the revolutionary wave that came afterwards. Now,
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obviously that terrified some people and inspired and delighted others.
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But the prospect of the revolution which began in Russia
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in February nineteen seventeen and then was completed in October
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nineteen seventeen and created huge waves of working class semi
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insurrectionary struggles right across Europe, from Hungary to Germany and
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even in sort of rather stodgy or Britain. So the
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idea that revolution was kind of in the air was
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on the agenda.
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This context of coming out of a World war and
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into a period of international revolution gave rise to another issue,
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anxiety around the position of the British Empire.
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So the British Empire had been unrivaled really, but the
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First World War was itself a product of interimperialist rivalry
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and exacerbated that rivalry with the growth of the German economy,
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with the growth of the American economy. So you have
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figures like Winston Churchill who are particularly identified with the
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drive to maintain a kind of British imperial presence in
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the world. So that really lay behind Churchill, who was
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the Chancellor of the Exchequer, bringing Britain back into the
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gold standard which had been abandoned during the war. In
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April nineteen twenty five.
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The gold standard was a system where a country's currency
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was linked to a fixed amount of gold. Under this system,
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the government guaranteed that a specific amount of its currency
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could be converted into a specific weight of gold, and
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this allowed for fixed exchange rates between different countries currencies.
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The gold standard was finally abandoned in the nineteen seventies.
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He did this to shore up the pound as the
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currency of the Commonwealth and the British Empire, but he
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pegged the pound way too high, so it ended up
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having a disastrous effect on the British economy, but particularly
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on mining, because the mining exports were so important and
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they became hideously expensive. And John Maynard Kings, the economist,
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warned Churchill at the time that the miners would pay
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the price for returning to the gold standard in this way,
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but obviously Churchill wasn't too concerned about applied to the
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British miners and was more concerned about empire.
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As is pretty much always the case, when capitalism finds
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itself
in any kind of economic difficulty, the cost of
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dealing with that difficulty is passed on to the working class.
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In this case, pegging the pound to the price of
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gold hurt the export of British coal, and so coal
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owners wanted to pass the price of that onto miners
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by making them work longer for less. However, miners were
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already living and working under extremely tough conditions and had
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been doing so for a long time, on low pay
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and frequently being injured or even killed because of unsafe conditions.
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One of the many miners who experienced such an injury
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was Abe Mofat, a Scottish communist active in the Fife
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coal fields. Abe would later go on to become president
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of the National Union of Scottish Mineworkers, having started work
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down the pits at the age of just fourteen.
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Or forty, yeah, nineteen ten.
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There was no other on ployment than maining villages at
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that game, and their maner son was more or less
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the mightic.
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Go as follow as a plough.
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I like to be.
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One fourteen southern brother than seven sisters.
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All of us were in the mane, and my father
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and my mother worked on and grandmother worked on the dead.
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My wife a small man, he used to call a
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little musco, and lately so I.
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Think little Moscow was a term used to describe areas
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of the UK where the Communist Party had particularly high
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levels of support. Other areas included parts of South Wales
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and the village of Chopwell in the northeast of England,
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where even today there still exists a road called Marks
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and lenin Terrace. Not coincidentally, these little moscows were often
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found around mining communities.
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But the pit was just in the village, So the
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village was part of the pit, and the pit was
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part of the village.
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You were working with the same people.
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But yeah, I wasn't long in the pit when I
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got an accident. It was almost six weeks working in
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the pit. They stone came down from the roofs and
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protonly for me. It didn't strike my body, almost up
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my good and at that kind of a b and
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the elder brother had to carry me home on his
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back into into a minor's house. And may you can
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imagine the face of my mother and her young son
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six weeks in a president and carried home on the
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other son Black.
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Despite being so young, Abe was well steeped in the
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militant culture of Britain's miners at that time.
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It was the custom for your parents to join the
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Union the first thing you went down the pit. I
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would say that about them, that the miners, fathers and
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mothers at that time were very loyal to the tradeing
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a movement. Not the first thing they've done on you
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went down the pit was to join you member kicking.
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And then I wasn't wrong in the field family of
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the Flush strike and the British goldfield to establish a
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minimum wage. At that day. The minimum wage that was
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a you was very small.
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Nonetheless, it was a.
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Very important stake. It was a flush stake and to
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establish a minimum weight for the miners of that game.
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As I say, the mini as is very small, you know,
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was a victory. It was only a sexual enery minimum week.
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This strike that Abe mentions to establish a minimum wage
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in the mining industry was the nineteen twelve National Coal Strike.
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Miners held out for over a month, forcing the government
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to pass the Coal Mines Act, which legislated a minimum
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wage in the mining industry. However, as Abe says, even
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this victory was hardly one which allowed miners to live
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in comfort. Unsurprisingly, there were subsequent disputes. A successful nineteen
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nineteen strike ballot led to the Sanke Commission being set up,
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which gave miners a pay rise of two shillings a day,
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so about
the equivalent of just over three pounds or
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about four dollars fifty in today's money. It also limited
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the working day to seven hours. However, in nineteen twenty one,
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mine owners suddenly announced sweeping wage cuts and a lockout
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starting at the end of March. Miners called for support
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from rail and transport workers' unions, who issued a call
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for strike action. Meanwhile, the government declared a state of
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emergency and sent troops to mining villages around the country.
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But the day before the strike was due to begin,
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negotiations took place, which resulted in it being called off
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despite winning nothing for the miners. These negotiations were so
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disastrous that the day they were announced subsequently became known
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as Black Friday. One of the key negotiators of this
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disaster was James Thomas, leader of the National Union of
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Railwaymen or the nu ARE. The historian Julian Simmons described
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Thomas at length as quote the greatest buffoon the labour
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movement has ever known, a man who dropped his h's
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as eagerly as he put on a dinner jacket. The
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personification of the beery, cheery, plain speaking man that musical
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comedians felt the British working man to be an image
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of this imaginary working man, also for the employers with
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whom he dined and negotiated so zestfully, and for the
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aristocrats who enjoyed his frank and unabashable social climbing. In
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nineteen twenty one, his role was that of the peacemaker
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of a man who felt that any kind of settlement
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was preferable to a transport strike. End quote. We'll come
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back to Thomas later in these episodes, as he's an
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important character for how the nineteen twenty six general strike
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would play out, but for now, it's important to note
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that the mining industry had long been an area of
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industrial conflict and militancy, and at the same time workers
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in our other industries were becoming more assertive and beginning
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to learn the lessons of the past. This was most
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obvious in what became known as the Red Friday of
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nineteen twenty five, is self a reference to the disastrous
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Black Friday four years earlier.
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You've got a working class movement which is quite confident,
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which has had a number of experiences, particularly in July
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nineteen twenty five Red Friday, where an alliance of miners,
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rail workers and transport workers have come together and really
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forced the government to back down, rather humiliated the government
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by forcing them to subsidize pay for the miners. And
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then in August nineteen twenty five you have a massive
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textile strike which is quite strong around where I'm speaking
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from in West Yorkshire, but something like one hundred and
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fifty thousand workers came out. It's a bit of a
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hidden strike and they got solidarity from other workers. So
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you've got this potential clash of a ruling class wanting
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to impose its will and a working class feeling rather
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confident in its methods of struggle.
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We talk a little bit more about this nineteen twenty
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five textile strike, including an interview with Betty Harrison, a
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textile worker who took part in it, in our bonus
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episode available for our Patrion supporters. Red Friday meanwhile showed
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that the trade union movement had learned the lessons from
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nineteen twenty one and managed to stick together at a
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moment when the bosses were trying to push through a
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whole host of attacks on the miners.
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Trade unions forced the government to agree to subsidize the
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mining industry. So the mining industry had been the backbone
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of the English Revolution. Miners occupied this special role as
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these sort of heroic workers who kept the economy going
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and so on. But the lack of investment in the
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mines and the falling profitability of mining exports meant that
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the mine owners were constantly trying to impose wage cuts
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and lengthen the working day. How the trade unions had
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forced the government to step in and give the mine
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owners a subsidy.
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The positions of the miners and mine owners were exactly
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opposed to each other. For the mine owners, coal exports
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were collapsing, and as a result, so was the price
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of coal, which meant miners needed to work more for
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less money. For the miners, however, the volatile economics of
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coal were due to quote the general crisis of the
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capitalist world end quote, which necessitated the wholesale nationalization of
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the industry. But in the first instance, miners argued that
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their paying conditions must be quote untouchable, as the present
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wage is not a living wage end quote. As July
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nineteen twenty five, war on with no agreement between miners
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and mine owners on the horizon. The Miners Federation of
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Great Britain took their case to the General Council of
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the Trades Union Congress the TUC. The General Council agreed
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to put a complet embargo on the movement of coal
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starting from the thirty first of July, affecting railways, docks,
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waterways and roads. On the evening of Thursday, thirtieth of July,
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Conservative Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin called a meeting with the
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Miners' Union. Despite saying earlier that very day that there
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could be no government subsidy for the mining industry, this
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was precisely what he agreed with. The government subsidized in
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miner's wages to the tune of twenty three million pounds
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in today's money the equivalent of just under one point
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eight billion pounds or two point four billion dollars. But
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this subsidy only bought a temporary piece, scheduled to run
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out at the end of April nineteen twenty six, at
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which point hostilities between miners and bosses.
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Resumed, so the mine owners came back in demanding drastic
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pay cut and crucially an extra hour on the day.
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And the extra hour on the day was seen as
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incredibly important because this was an industry in which levels
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of accidents was absolutely appalling. Many miners were disabled by
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the age of forty, not just with lung disease, but
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with accidents, with amputations, and many accidents happened in the
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last hour of the day when people got tired, when
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people were exhausted from a long shift. So imposing an
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extra hour was really consigning hundreds of miners to lose limbs,
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to have their lives and their health destroyed, and that's
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why it was such a flashpoint. The immediate sort of
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negotiations went on between the miners, the trade union Council
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and the government, which was led by Stanley Baldwin. He
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pulled out of negotiations at a crucial point because he
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said he was being challenged by an alternative government, so
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he upped the stakes really to say that by fighting
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against wage cuts and this extra hour on the day,
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the working class movement, the labor movement, was seeking to
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overthrow a democrat partically elected government and imposed tyranny. And
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that's the kind of language they used. They wanted revengeful
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the year before, they wanted to humiliate the working class movement.
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They wanted to put workers back in their boxes, really,
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and it became a general strike partly because the trade
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unions had said, you know, an attack on one union
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will have been an attack on all of us. But
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also I think that was propelled forwards by a developing
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class consciousness. The nationalism that had been central to the
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war effort back in nineteen fourteen fifteen had given way
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during the war to a much more bitter critique of
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the idea of a national interest and that we're all
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in it together, you know, that sense that we're not
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all in it together, that that we're not going to
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be disciplined by saying there's some threat of revolution. So
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I think the general strike was a product both of
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the formal agreements at the top of the unions and
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this growing sense that together working
people could push back
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the boss's offensive and could win something more for themselves.
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However, after Red Friday, the government spent the next nine
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months preparing for the eventuality of a general strike. Once
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the subsidy for the mining industry ran out in.
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April twenty five, the government was humiliated, and they immediately
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launched a big propaganda campaign saying that the trade unions
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were in bed with the Reds and were threatening the
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whole of society. But perhaps more importantly, they began to organize,
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particularly people like Churchill and another character called Joinson Hicks
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known as Jicks, also known as Mussolini Minor because he
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was such a hard line right winger. They began to
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organize groups for a future confrontation so they were on
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the ball. They organized something called the Supply and Transport Committee,
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which was ready to call in volunteers I scabs to
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break any few future strike. And then in September twenty
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five they also set up the Organization of Maintenance Supplies
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the OMS, which became a bit notorious because this was
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where Joins and Hicks Jigs called off for volunteers to
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sign up to smash the general strike, and they were
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fed with this propaganda that they had to do their
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duty to keep this country safe from revolution and defeat
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this communist conspiracy that was going to bring down democracy.
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show notes, it's estimated that between three hundred and five
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hundred thousand volunteers been recruited in preparation for the strike,
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either to serve as scab replacement workers or be sworn
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in as special constables to reinforce police numbers. The government
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set up a scheme to keep food and transport going,
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in which England and Wales were split into ten divisions,
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each with their own commissioner tasked with maintaining law and
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order in their area, most of which seemed to have
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recruited at least twenty thousand volunteers. How many of these
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were actually used is another question. For instance, by the
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eleventh of May, one hundred and fourteen thousand volunteers had
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been recruited in London, but only about nine and a
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half thousand were actually given work. Nonetheless, the government made
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serious preparations for class conflict. On the trade union side, however,
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things could not have been more different.
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In contrast, the trade union Council did absolutely nothing. It
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did nothing at all to prepare and it's almost like
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they were playing by this set of rules which didn't
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apply to their opponents, only lied to them. That they
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went back to trade unionism, building up their organizations, collecting
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their memberships and subs, and seeing themselves as mediators between
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a ruling class that didn't want any mediation, that wanted
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to smash them, and a working class that was frustrated
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and angry about attempts to impose wage cuts. So, yeah,
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the ruling class and the government got really organized, and
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the labor movement sadly was let down by its leaders
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who did not I think they kind of kept hoping
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that the government would mediate and negotiate and conciliate because
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that was what they saw their role as being. So
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they were completely flum mixed when it didn't happen.
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This position was echoed by Abe more Fat during his
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interview in the nineteen seventies.
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Well, there wasn't because the leadership they didn't you. The
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next month, fairly leadership learning about it, and yeah, nay
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months and of EUC lose months.
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As Abe says, the TUC didn't use any of the
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preceding nine months to prepare for the strike, neither with
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the miners nor with any other union body. A conference
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of TUC leaders met on Thursday, the twenty ninth of April.
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No plans for a national strike had been made until
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Tuesday of that week, literally days before the government subsidy
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was due to expire. Union leaders were worried that any
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such plans would be considered provocative. The government and employers, meanwhile,
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had no such worries. Better late than never, the TUC
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drew up a plan to cool workers out in stages.
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The first wave was to include all forms of transport, printing,
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and construction trades, as well as iron, steel, metal, heavy chemical,
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electricity and gas workers. However, it still left out a
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number of key industries like postal and telephone service workers,
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as well as electricians, engineers, and woodworkers. There was also
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some confusion among those who were supposed to be striking.
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For instance, building trades were called out except for those
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employed on housing and hospital work, while electricity and gas
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workers were to cease supplying power but not light. There
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was also confusion about what some of the TUC's instructions
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would mean in practice, so, for instance, instructed that other
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than essentials. No goods were to be transported by road
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or rail, but particularly in the case of road transport,
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it was unclear whether this simply meant that union members
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should refrain from such work, or if the TUC was
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asking for hard pickets stop in traffic to check vehicles.
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With plans only being drawn up with literal days before
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the strike was due to begin, this sort of confusion
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was inevitable. In contrast to the equivocations of union leaders.
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The government was very much pairing for battle. All army
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and navy leave was canceled. Two battalions of infantry landed
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in Liverpool and marched through the
city with their rifles,
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while battleships anchored in the River Mersey. Other naval vessels
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were sent to ports around the country, against a backdrop
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of cries in the media about revolution and the threat
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to the constitution. Yet, despite this show of strength from
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the government, and despite the haphazard last minute organization of
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trade union leaders, the response from the rank and file
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workers surprised everyone, from the government to the employers and
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even the trade union leaders themselves.
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What's extraordinary is for all of their lack of preparation,
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for all their lack of ideological preparation or physical organizational preparation.
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The response of rank and file workers was extraordinary. The
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militancy and the unity, the kind of energy and dynamism
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with which people answered the call for a general strike,
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I think caught the trade union leaders and the government
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on the hop. And if you read any of the
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accounts at the time, everybody says when they woke up
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on the morning of the fourth May, they woke up
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to silence, and it was the first time, if you
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lived in East London, you'd ever woken up and there
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weren't docks, there weren't trains, there weren't trams, there weren't cars,
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there weren't building works. So they woke up to this
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extraordinary silence, and a lot of the trade union activists
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at the time report the problem was that the TUC
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called out certain groups of workers, and their problem was
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not getting those groups of workers out, It was stopping
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groups who hadn't been called out wanting to join the strike,
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and the trade union leaders didn't want that to happen
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because they wanted to keep control of who was out.
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They wanted to make sure that they were dictating terms,
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and this wasn't being swept away in some kind of
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mass rank and file revolt. So there was this extraordinary
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response from trade unionists and the communities that supported them.
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They began to organize. Although this strike only lasted for
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nine days, you can see glimpses of how workers could
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begin to organize in different ways, and many of them
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establish what they called councils of action. So some of
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these grew out of trades. Councils were set up by
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communist organizations the British Communist Party, but they exercised a
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huge power in some cities. They decided who was going
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to get food, which transport was going to be allowed through.
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They kept the police out of some working class areas.
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They really did give a glimpse of working class people
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beginning to run some aspects of their society.
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Workers from across the country stood by the call to
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support the miners.
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In the branch, we were told that the decision had
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been to support for the miners, and everybody welcomed it
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and was quite happy with the policy. Doing everything we
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could for the miners was read a very strong feeling
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of kind of bond with miners. Their work was of
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a kind where we understood our dirty and dangerous and
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low paid. It was, you know, vi comparison with what
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they should have been getting.
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This is Harry Watson, who at the time of the
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general strike was in the fourth year of a five
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year apprenticeship as a lightenment on the docks in Poplar,
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East London. While regular dockers were primarily engaged in loading
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and discharging cargo on or off vessels, the lightenman's role
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was quite different.
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Well, lightenment, they they superintend the loading of their craft
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in the sense that is now When I first started
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like them, and used to have to get in the
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barge with the docker Augustevidor and with the corn borders
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and helped to load his barge himself with them. Used
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to be one of the game. And it works on
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barges and self propelled vessels navigating up and down the river,
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taking barges from one place to another place.
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was first a float because we had to do it
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under oars, the road barges about the doors to wherever
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they had to go, and which meant, of course you
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had to understand the navigational aspects of things, taking into
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account of the wind and the state of the tide
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and the particular geographical position of the place you were
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coming away from so that you could get out into
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the tideway without mishap, and where you were going to
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you had to be very certain about to shake your
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barge up to make a fetch where you were going,
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because you've got no brakes there afloat. You had to
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measure the job that you had to do with your
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eye on the wind and the tide and where the
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wallfall the ship was fast, so that your barge could
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come alongside under your navigation or no how without doing
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any damage.
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Harry was a member of the Popular Branch of the
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National Amalgamated Stevedores, Lightman, Watermen and Dockers Union, which he
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had joined after his first year as an apprentice. Opinion
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in the branch was solidly behind the miners.
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The branch at that I had about five hundred members
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in the Poplar branch, and when the decision was taken
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as a result of the lockouts that there would be
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a national strike in support of the miners against the
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evelopment and coal owners, everybody was very happy with that situation.
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I think it was also in the minds of the
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older men, the more experienced men that the implications of
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the coal owners behavior support as it was by the government,
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was that if they got a way with it with
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the miners, they'd obviously everybody else in the working class
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against the film. The backwash of the events as far
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as the miners' ways and conditions were concerned, and because
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when it was reported to us that not only were
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they being asked to accept the reduced rate the party,
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but I think it was
they were going to their
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working day length. And the indignation that we felt at
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this contemptuous attitude towards men of the caliber of miners
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was so open and shot that there was no question
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or doubt in anybody's mind that our position was one
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where we could do nothing else other than helped to
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win this particular issue that the minds were involved with.
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In my way of looking at it, I suppose it's
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a very simple way, because I wasn't all less sophisticated
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in my thinking in that I think it was either
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right it was wrong, And as far as I was concerned,
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the miners were right and asking for higher wages and
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for short hours, and the coal owners were wrong to
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deny it because had a fair idea of the kind
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of work that the men did, and the kind of
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rewards that I would be looking for if I was
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doing that job, which would have been far in excess
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of what the miners were asking for. Well, I mean,
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even then, in my way of thinking the I couldn't
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even understand why it was that the coal owners and
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the government were taking such an entrangident attitude towards the
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miners and their claims. It was opening shut to me.
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And men were an important section of the community. We
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depended on them for everything because coal in those days,
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I mean you take the river alone, we used to
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transport hundreds of thousands of tons of coal a week
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to the power stations up and down the canal. Coal
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was the power fuel of that day, you know, to
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a degree that nothing else was. Even lorries were all
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that much in existence in those days. We used to
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have steam traction engines pulling freights and out on the
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roads andthing that time. And coal was from our point
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of view, and essential and if we wanted to ensure
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that the supplies of it were going to come through
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the only way we could guarantee that, as we saw it,
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was that the minders not paid the wages and work.
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No other conditions that we would expect.
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As was mentioned earlier, many workers weren't included in the
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initial phase of the TUC strike plan, and very often
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they were not well pleased with that situation.
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Now, the textile workers were not called out. Quite possibly
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if the strike had lasted much longer, they would have been,
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but as you know, it only lasted nine days.
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This is Betty Harrison, who time of the general strike
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was a branch committee member of the Textile Workers' Union
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and a member of the Independent Labor Party. In nineteen
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twenty six, she was working in Bradford in the north
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of England as a burla mender, which was a kind
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of skilled textile worker.
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When you're weeding cloth, there is a warp and then
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the shuttle goes through the warp to make the nicoll
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the west you see, it's the west on the well.
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Sometimes it fluffs up and makes a burl, or it
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breaks and a knockout to be made. And sometimes it
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breaks and goes a long way before they'd notice it broken,
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either as a pick which is what their shuttle makes,
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or as the warp which is coming true and makes
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the ends down as it were, that breaks, and sometimes
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it begs to go through a whole piece before they notice,
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though you know it was a very fine thing. Well,
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a burla mender takes out the bits of takes out
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the knots without letting it run back and make a hole.
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So then the ends and the pick, and sometimes it
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snarled up and made an or a real mess with
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both picks and ends and the real mac And then
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I meant that to sort that out, and meant that,
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Oh it was hard on the eyes.
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But of course I was very young and very little.
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And incidentally, I must tell you this because it has
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a bearing on the future. My father, as a miner,
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was very keen on the trade unions, and he said
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00:34:46.880
I must join the union straight away when I started working.
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And the first day I came home, he said, have
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you joined the union yet? And I said no, I
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couldn't find the man today. Remember I was only thirteen,
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the tiny little thing in any way of ever being
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very dull. He said, now I remember, don't forget tomorrow.
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My mother said, now, I give it a chance. She's
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only been one day. Anyhow, I found the union man
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and I joined the union any week. It was the
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wee youngsters that first week, and I was a union member,
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not in the same union all the time, but as
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I'm a union member all the forty seven years I
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worked after being in the first week, but I didn't
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really become very active until I was about nineteen, and
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then my father died and I had to begin things. Incidentally,
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I went to night school straight away when I started working.
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I went to night school because I wanted to learn
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something else and find get a better job. And I
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took the usual things one took in those days, short
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and type in bookkeeping MM and uh. I wasn't very good,
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but the peeping am I. Anyhow, I didn't do anything
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with it because I'd stayed in the textid in this
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for twenty one years as a Relada Menda.
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Betty had been involved in trade unions for a couple
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of years before the general strike, including the nineteen twenty
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five textile strikes that Judy mentioned earlier in this episode.
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Will include some of Betty's memories of that night in
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twenty five strike in our bonus episode for this series,
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available exclusively on Patreon. However, being an active trade unionist,
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Betty was not very pleased about textile workers not being
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included in the strike call.
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And not everybody was called out, a great mistake they
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should haven Of course, one talks now, and this is
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the unfortunate fund about it. You know, one talks with hindside,
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so that one's impressions at that time were not quite
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the same as one can feel now now. Some of us,
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who were young and militant, wanted the textile workers to
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come out, and we went with a deputation.
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That we were told.
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The reasons I was working at that time in a
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small shop were only about fifty people. It was a
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purely Berlin and mending establishment. It wasn't actually a factory.
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I was in at that particular moment that there were
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shots like this where they just took in Berlin and
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mending from factories that didn't don burlers and vendors themselves,
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and that take them for a group of small factories
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who sent all the Berlin and men to this.
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Thing.
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And I was working at one of those shots, and
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I was collecting for the union place. And then we
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got this notice and to tell our members that we
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weren't out or a meeting was called of the branch
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committee and I was on the branch committees. A dance
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or all the people that were collect and branch secretaries
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were not not the collector, but the Brown secreties were
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on the branch committee. And at this meeting where some
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of us felt that we ought to approach the negative
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to ask why we shouldn't be unstriked, but finding them
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the collective, we got the answer that we were the
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00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:22.039
same line of troops or something, and if it went
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on an the length of time we should be called out.
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There was no sort of idea of how long it
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would go on or what the length of time would
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be before the second line of action was called call.
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So while Bey and workers like her were told to
639
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stand by, others were told to begin the general strike.
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Oh you men of time. Candy did the events of
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call with me? A little pick and shovel for the
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boss man the callering, but I'll never own your soul.
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With me, A little pig can show up fair.
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That's all we've got time for in
this episode. If
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There.
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We'll talk about the action of the general strike itself,
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including more first hand accounts of the strike and the
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clashes that took place between police, scabs and strikers. You'll
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also get access to a bonus episode in which two
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of the participants in the strike, Betty Harrison and Harry Watson,
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talk about their life and work around the time of
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the strike, as well as union politics. More generally, it
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markers highlight in the locations of specific incidents that took
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place in the towns, cities and villages around the UK
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during the General Strike itself. And if you'd like to
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get a copy of Judy's book Revisiting the General Strike
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buy a copy on the web page for this episode.
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On the web page. You'll also find more information, including
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further reading, images and sources link in the show notes.
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Thanks to our Patreon supporters for making this podcast possible,
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and a special thanks to Jat's hands. Our theme tune
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for this episode is Montanne's version of When the Coal
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Comes from the Ronda, a folk song originating from Welsh
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miners in the early twentieth century and sung during the
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general strike. The song is performed by Montaigne and mixed
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by Wave Racer. You can find a link to download
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the song on our website. All proceeds go into medical
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aid for Palestinians. For more from Montaigne, check the links
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on the web page for this episode. This episode was
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edited by Jesse French. Anyway, that's it for today. Hope
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you enjoyed the episode and thanks for listening.
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It comes from the road when the Call comes from
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the ronder, with shovel and pick and little lamp and
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a wick. When the Call comes from the Ronda.