How to Avoid Burnout | Danielle Bertrand on People Pleasing, Boundaries & Finding Your Voice의 전체 녹취록

00:01:56.959 Okay. 00:01:57.200 --> 00:01:58.640 So, Doctor in Advance. 00:01:58.799 --> 00:01:59.120 Thank you. 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:00.959 Danielle, thank you so much for joining me. 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:01.439 How are you? 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:02.400 I'm doing well. 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:03.760 I'm glad to be here today. 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:05.040 I'm so happy to have you. 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:07.280 We got to let the people know how you got here, okay? 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:11.439 Because I put out uh it was just a story post. 00:02:11.520 --> 00:02:12.800 It wasn't even like an actual post. 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:20.080 I put out a story post and I said, if anybody wants to be on We Going Up, if you know somebody who should be, send me an email. 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:22.080 You were the first person to do so. 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:25.919 Not only that, you replied to the story like sending my email right now. 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:27.120 You said, okay. 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:28.240 And then I read the email. 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:31.120 I said, yes, we got to have her stories. 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:33.759 And I'm so glad that you said yes. 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:36.800 Listen, I tell people opportunities are everywhere. 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:38.400 You just have to be looking for them. 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:38.800 Yeah. 00:02:39.039 --> 00:02:40.719 There are places where you can share your story. 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:41.840 So I'm glad to be here. 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:44.879 I'm so grateful that you wanted to come share it on Week Growing Up, okay? 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:46.400 Uh you're amazing. 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:51.280 So before we get started into like the interview, I'll always ask a little this or that so that we can get to know you. 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:53.520 With this or that, you can only choose one. 00:02:53.840 --> 00:02:55.439 We got a few different options, okay? 00:02:56.240 --> 00:03:01.680 So, a weekend in Baton Rouge or a weekend exploring Dallas? 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:04.879 Um, a weekend exploring Dallas. 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:05.599 Really? 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:07.280 I asked you that because that's where you're from. 00:03:07.439 --> 00:03:07.759 Yes. 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:08.240 Uh-huh. 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:12.639 And I've been there for 31 years, so weekend exploring. 00:03:13.599 --> 00:03:16.080 I bring my friends from Baton Ridge to explore with me. 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:17.120 Okay, I love that. 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:18.879 Wait, so what you mean? 00:03:18.960 --> 00:03:19.759 When did you move here? 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:21.360 I've been here for 70 years now. 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:21.919 Okay. 00:03:22.240 --> 00:03:22.960 Yes, yes. 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:24.000 Oh, so you fresh? 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:24.639 Still. 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:24.960 Yeah. 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:25.599 Yeah, still. 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:25.840 Yeah. 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:27.919 I mean, I'm

fresher, but still, you know what I'm saying? 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:31.759 We came right before the pandemic, so it still feels like I'm exploring. 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:32.960 Okay, I love that. 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:34.400 Okay, that's why you picked that one. 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:36.800 Okay, heels or sneakers. 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:39.439 Oh, heels. 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:40.719 Really? 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:41.599 Yes. 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:43.759 I feel heels. 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:48.639 I'm more, I think I'm because I'm dancing a lot now, I'm more of a sandals girl. 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:49.039 Yeah. 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:52.639 Give me a flat shoe, but I for some reason sneakers is not my thing. 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:52.879 Yeah. 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:54.159 It's just really not my thing. 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:54.800 I just can't. 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:56.319 Like, I'll put on a heel any day. 00:03:56.479 --> 00:03:56.639 Yeah. 00:03:56.879 --> 00:03:59.120 If I'm running outside, but yeah, I'll choose a heel. 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:03.919 And I think because I'm a little on the petite side, I try to give myself a couple inches. 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:04.319 Yeah. 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:05.120 Yeah, like me. 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:06.800 Like, I think my heels are taller than yours. 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:08.080 I thought I could see over your head. 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:09.919 I'm like, wait, how tall are you? 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:11.360 You're so much taller than me. 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:13.280 You got me by like four inches. 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:14.879 Okay. 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:18.800 Brunch with the girls or dinner? 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:20.480 With who? 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:21.680 The girls. 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:22.160 Okay. 00:04:22.319 --> 00:04:23.920 Brunch with the girls or dinner with the girls. 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:25.120 Still with the girls. 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:26.399 Brunch or dinner? 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:27.040 Brunch. 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:28.319 I am a brunch girl. 00:04:28.480 --> 00:04:28.639 Really? 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:30.160 Dallas has some good brunch. 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:30.800 I yeah. 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:32.399 I'm Dallas got good brunch? 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:33.279 I gotta put me on. 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:33.600 Yeah. 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:35.120 Put me on to the places. 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:35.600 Yes. 00:04:35.839 --> 00:04:37.839 Because I feel like I haven't really been to a good brunch yet. 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:38.079 Yeah. 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:40.639 I just like being out, I guess, early in the day. 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:44.079 And you know, at nighttime, the girl getting a little sleepy. 00:04:44.319 --> 00:04:47.600 So I think I'm a little bit more energized during brunch. 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:48.959 See, I'm more of a dinner girl. 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:50.480 I just love a dinner plate. 00:04:50.959 --> 00:04:57.439 You looking at the salmon and the green beans and the mashed potatoes on the plate, it's given like a nice nighttime vibe. 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:00.720 I like taking photos with flashes at restaurants. 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:01.600 You know? 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:03.920 Because it's nighttime. 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:05.120 Absolutely. 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:05.519 Yeah. 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:10.800 Daytime brunch situation, I think because I'm learning to eat when I'm supposed to. 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:14.879 But sometimes I'll be forgetting to eat that dinner, be one of my first real meals. 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:15.279 You know? 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:16.399 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:18.160 For a long day. 00:05:18.399 --> 00:05:19.279 Like, let's go to dinner. 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:20.480 Yeah, I'm there. 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:21.360 Tag me in. 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:21.759 You know? 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:23.040 Because I'll be busy for brunch time. 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:24.399 Okay. 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:27.600 Shopping spree or spa day? 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:28.959 Can we do both? 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:29.839 Like, it's both that. 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:31.279 Gotta choose one. 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:33.040 Ooh. 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:36.959 I love to shop, but I love a good spa. 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:38.399 Oh. 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:42.240 Can we do like the same day? 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:48.639 Can we like do a double dip or not the spot at the mall? 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:53.120 Like a hotel connected to the mall, and we can like do something. 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:54.399 Okay, yeah, we can do it. 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:56.000 We can do that. 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:58.240 I'm I I feel you, but I'm not a shopper. 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:00.160 I definitely probably would have picked spa day. 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:00.560 Okay. 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:01.040 Yeah. 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:03.680 I think shopping gives me a little bit of anxiety. 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:05.839 Like when I'm out and is this stuff going on? 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:13.040 Like, if I don't go into a grocery store or someplace like Walmart with a list, I'm not gonna be in my right mind. 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:15.040 Because there's too many options. 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:17.519 I got a brain that runs a thousand miles a minute. 00:06:17.680 --> 00:06:19.680 So I get tired, I be over it. 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:19.920 Yeah. 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:24.399 And then when it comes to like shopping for like clothes and shoes and stuff, online me. 00:06:24.560 --> 00:06:25.040 Really? 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:26.160 Online me. 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:32.079 When I have to go into the store, it's be it's because that the event is either tomorrow or that day. 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:34.879 If I can't get it in two days, then you know what I'm saying? 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:38.399 That's when I'm gonna go into the store and I'd be worn out. 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:39.920 It just

be too many options. 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:46.560 I just it is, it is like having to make decisions immediately on the spot. 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:47.920 I'm working on it. 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:48.240 Okay. 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:48.800 I'm working on it. 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:50.160 I just think it's the burnout thing. 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:53.680 I'm like we burn out from shopping, okay. 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:55.519 Emotionally exhausted. 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:56.800 Emotionally exhausted. 00:06:56.879 --> 00:06:57.600 That's what it is. 00:06:57.759 --> 00:06:58.079 Yes. 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:01.920 Okay, and my last one, karaoke night or game night? 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:02.879 Date night. 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:03.360 No. 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:04.160 Game night. 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:05.839 Karaoke night or game night. 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:06.560 Game night, yes. 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:07.360 Game night. 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:07.839 Really? 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:08.879 Yeah. 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:11.839 We we play games, we we enjoy games. 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:15.600 I grew up playing games at home, all the things. 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:18.079 Like my husband's family, they they love Scrabble. 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:21.040 But they was tearing my butt up, and I said, Oh no. 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:23.120 I so I started playing Scrabble on my phone. 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:24.480 That's so crazy. 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:27.759 Because they knew the little secrets that I didn't know. 00:07:27.839 --> 00:07:28.480 I'm like, y'all don't know what you're saying. 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:29.199 What are the secrets? 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:30.160 You just got no words, right? 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:39.680 Yeah, but like some of them are like two-letter words that get you a lot of points if they're on the triple letter or the double letter, and I just didn't know how to strategize it. 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:41.360 I said, Oh no, not no more. 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:43.839 So I just be playing on my phone, practicing. 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:45.199 That's crazy. 00:07:45.519 --> 00:07:51.839 I am who I think because I come from a karaoke family. 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:55.439 Like when I tell you, my family, I started. 00:07:55.920 --> 00:08:01.519 This is probably TMI, but I started going to clubs illegally with my aunties at the back hall. 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:07.040 Because in Detroit, you know, like at most karaoke bars, you gotta be 21 or older to get in. 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:12.959 And I started like, I'm telling on my auntie, because I grew up in a hair salad. 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:17.360 So some of her friends at the shop, one of them ended up giving me like a her fake ID. 00:08:17.519 --> 00:08:19.600 Well, her ID to pass for her. 00:08:20.079 --> 00:08:20.959 Whoo child. 00:08:21.120 --> 00:08:24.000 And I was, you know, going into the karaoke bar with them. 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:26.079 And so I grew up on karaoke. 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:31.680 And whenever I'm at home with my family, we always, even though a lot of us can't really, you know, we can carry tunes. 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:31.920 Yeah. 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:32.320 Uh huh. 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:37.039 My big sister is the singer, but we can, you know, carry tunes and stuff, so we be singing together. 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:40.000 And I I find that so like, I don't know, joyful. 00:08:40.159 --> 00:08:40.399 Yeah. 00:08:40.559 --> 00:08:42.159 But a good game might do me right too. 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:43.360 I think those are like neck and neck. 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:44.639 Okay, okay. 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:50.399 But since you're saying that you do that a lot, you know, and we get to know each other, can I get an invite to the X World? 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:51.039 Come on. 00:08:51.440 --> 00:08:52.080 Because I want to be there. 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:52.960 Spoons, all kinds of things. 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:54.000 Have you played Spoons before? 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:54.799 No, I've never played that. 00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:55.679 Yeah. 00:08:55.840 --> 00:08:58.399 Girl, and I but I ain't gonna hold you, I'm not about to play no Scrabble. 00:08:58.799 --> 00:08:59.440 No, it isn't no. 00:08:59.919 --> 00:09:00.480 Spoons is a lot. 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:02.559 Spoons is more energetic than Scrabble. 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:03.759 It's it's that's crazy. 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:09.759 I had um I had guests on the show for I think episode six with the the bet. 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:10.320 Uh-huh. 00:09:10.480 --> 00:09:14.559 They play Scrabble, and I'm that was my first time hearing people say that they'd be playing that. 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:17.120 That's why I have to learn that. 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:20.159 Because that was not that's the situation, yeah. 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:23.039 Because it's like boring for me. 00:09:23.279 --> 00:09:23.919 Yeah. 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:27.279 For me, it's boring, but we will I digress. 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:28.080 You know what I'm saying? 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:31.279 I just don't want to lose, so I learned. 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:33.440 You gotta do what you gotta do. 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:37.120 So before you were the Dr. 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:45.120 Danielle Lodi and the author and entrepreneur, educator, and all of these different things, um, who were you? 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:48.240 What was life like growing up? 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:48.639 Yeah. 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:51.279 Uh tell us where you're from, even though I already gave it away. 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:54.720 Uh, and how was your childhood? 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:58.960 And are you doing anything that you wanted to do as a child today? 00:09:59.360 --> 00:09:59.679 Okay. 00:09:59.840 --> 00:10:05.440 So I'm originally from Batonridge, Louisiana, and growing up, I was I was just quiet. 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:10.240 Um, and I don't know if we're gonna get to this, but

I'll start the story off. 00:10:10.399 --> 00:10:13.519 At five years old, I was bullied for being a little chunky. 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:15.600 Um, but it was probably baby fade. 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:18.559 But you know, kids, yeah, I'm a teacher, I see what kids do. 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:22.799 And so because of that, five-year-old Danielle said, Well, I'm gonna just be quiet. 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:26.240 Because if I'm quiet, maybe they won't see me, and then maybe they won't talk about me. 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:30.799 So at five years old, I made the conscious decision to stop talking. 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:32.639 So people say, Are you an introvert? 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:36.159 And I'm like, Well, I don't know, I just stopped talking. 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:37.919 It was a defense mechanism. 00:10:38.159 --> 00:10:39.200 For how long? 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:42.240 I did that probably all the way through high school. 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:42.879 Shut up. 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:44.559 And when and You wasn't talking. 00:10:44.799 --> 00:10:45.600 How did you make friends? 00:10:45.679 --> 00:10:46.159 Did you have friends? 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:48.000 Yeah, I had friends, but they were people. 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:49.440 Okay, with you not talking? 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:52.799 Yeah, I would talk in small packets of people. 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:57.600 But like just like out talking, having conversations, starting a conversation. 00:10:58.799 --> 00:10:59.759 I was very smart. 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:02.720 I was on honor roll, and that's what it was. 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:04.720 I was like, well, I'm gonna keep my grades up. 00:11:04.960 --> 00:11:11.279 So I people knew me because I was smart, um, but not because I was just having all these conversations with people. 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:17.759 You know, Magna program, all of the things, and that really lasted up until high school. 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:19.360 Wow. 00:11:19.679 --> 00:11:23.679 Very, very quiet, reserved, except when I danced. 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:26.559 So I started doing liturgical dance when I was seven. 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:27.440 We love a dancer. 00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:33.840 Yes, and when I would dance, people and I was stopping, people like, wait, that was you? 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:39.279 And I was like, Yeah, like I was able to fully express myself through dance, but I wouldn't say anything. 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:45.919 And so people got to see a side of me when I danced that they didn't see just in natural conversations. 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:48.159 Wow, I love that so much. 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:49.279 I grew up dancing too. 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:51.759 And it was my outlet, how I expressed myself. 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:53.679 Like, we was going through a lot as a kid. 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:59.279 And when I tell you, all I had to need to go was dance practice after school, and it would transform everything. 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:00.480 That's all I wanted to do. 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:01.279 Absolutely. 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:02.399 That's so amazing. 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:08.080 So, as you are growing up and you're silent through high school, what was that like for you? 00:12:08.159 --> 00:12:09.519 Like, how did you come out of that? 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:13.360 And were you what were your aspirations during that time? 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:13.919 Yeah. 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:15.440 So I came out of it. 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:22.639 Well, during high school, I remember being in conversation with my cousins, and I would have something to say, and I couldn't get the words out. 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:25.519 Like it was that bad because I wasn't used to talking. 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:28.080 And I feel like the enemy will say, That's not good enough. 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:28.639 Don't say that. 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:30.080 They're gonna laugh at you if you say that. 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:35.200 Like it was it was actually paralyzing from the bullying. 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:36.080 From the bullying. 00:12:36.159 --> 00:12:43.759 And be and then because I had just trained myself to be quiet, so when the opportunity came to talk, it was like, no, no. 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:45.440 No, no, don't say nothing. 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:49.039 I mean, I would be like, and then what would be the crazy part? 00:12:49.200 --> 00:13:00.080 What I was about to say, somebody else said and confirmed that what I had to say was something about you, but yeah, I had missed my opportunity because I was afraid. 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:01.440 That's crazy. 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:02.399 I need to speak. 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:04.799 That's crazy. 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:08.240 And so how did you find your voice again? 00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:14.080 So I went to college in in Texas, 45 minutes away is nothing, but in Louisiana it's something. 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:16.799 So I went to college 45 minutes away from Backridge. 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:17.200 Ma'am. 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:18.320 And I stayed on campus. 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:20.159 But so many people did that. 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:21.039 Like, that was normal. 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:23.679 If you went to the school I went to, you lived on campus. 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:26.240 Um, and so I lived on campus. 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:30.879 I got a work study job, and then like people saw that I was a leader. 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:31.919 I just didn't know it. 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:35.519 And so I was starting, I became the president of Black Student Union. 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:39.519 There was no liturgical dance ministry on campus, so I started one. 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:43.120 And yeah, there was a gospel card. 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:44.720 I was like, Why we don't have a dance ministry? 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:46.000 I was like, Well, you can start one. 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:47.200 I was like, fine then. 00:13:47.360 -->

00:13:48.399 And so I started one. 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:52.240 So we got choreographed, we traveled, we did all the things. 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:55.120 The only reason I went to college was to open up a dance studio. 00:13:56.240 --> 00:14:02.480 Like dance was that important to me that I went to school for business to open up a dance studio. 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:05.759 Like, literally, that's that was my outlet. 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:10.480 And so that's where I felt like I had my voice, and that's the only reason I went. 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:16.080 I had good grades, but I was like, I don't want to be a doctor, I don't want to be this, I want to teach dance. 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:20.720 And so I love learning this about you because I'm a dancer. 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:22.080 Uh yeah. 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:28.320 Like, I literally just did a performance showcase with Art of Eight School of Dance, and it's an adult dance school. 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:29.440 You dance with Janica. 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:30.320 I've danced with Janica. 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:31.360 You think it's my door? 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:32.639 You dance with Janica. 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:37.679 I mean, that's why you said when you hurt them, I'm like, I know you are because them them jumping jacks, she don't play. 00:14:37.919 --> 00:14:38.960 She don't play. 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:40.159 You've been to the school? 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:41.120 Yes, yes. 00:14:41.279 --> 00:14:42.000 You gotta come back. 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:44.399 Yes, I I know that it's on my to-do list. 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:45.679 But yes, I've danced with Janica. 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:46.240 Love her. 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:49.440 Oh my goodness, that is so crazy. 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:50.639 Absolutely. 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:53.840 I really love learning this about you because I'm literally a dancer. 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:55.840 Like, that's really what I've been doing all of my life. 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:56.159 Yeah. 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:59.200 Like I started dancing probably like when I was like five in the church. 00:14:59.279 --> 00:14:59.519 Yeah. 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:03.360 And then in elementary school is when I started going to dance practice after school. 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:06.000 And I used to do like dance competitions and stuff. 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:11.679 And then in middle school, I just danced mainly in church and sometimes with friends at school and everything. 00:15:11.840 --> 00:15:17.840 Then when I got to high school, not my first year, because I did a little back and forth between cities and stuff. 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:18.159 Okay. 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:20.559 But I went back home to Detroit in high school. 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:25.120 And uh after my freshman year, I went to the Detroit School of Arts. 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:25.679 Yeah, okay. 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:27.440 And that's where I was a dance major. 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:27.840 Okay. 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:42.240 And I learned all the genres of dance, and I felt like I did the worst at ballet because I was good at, you know, our modern classes, our contemporary, hip hop, African, I was literally the best in all of those genres. 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:44.559 But when it came to ballet, it just wasn't a thing for me. 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:55.279 And I always subconsciously felt bad about that because, you know, we would have competition, no, we would have not competitions, we would have auditions for like spring concerts and stuff, and I would never make the ballet pieces. 00:15:55.600 --> 00:15:57.120 They were not choosing me for that. 00:15:57.360 --> 00:15:59.360 They was not choosing me for that. 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:11.279 And so when I found Art of A School of Dance here in Dallas and realized like it's an adult dance school, and she teached all the genres, beginners, and everything. 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:13.360 I decided to enroll in ballet. 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:13.600 Yeah. 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:15.360 And it's, you know, it's with Janica. 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:15.840 Yes. 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:16.879 And she doesn't play. 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:17.759 Not at all. 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:19.440 But she's really confident. 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:20.320 She takes her time. 00:16:20.559 --> 00:16:21.360 You know what I'm saying? 00:16:21.840 --> 00:16:25.759 I took it to challenge myself, had no idea that I would be performing. 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:26.159 Yes. 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:26.480 Uh-huh. 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:28.080 And I performed this year. 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:32.480 And so I went off on a tangent, but this is exciting. 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:34.159 Okay, because we got community. 00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:35.279 Yes, yes. 00:16:35.679 --> 00:16:36.399 You know what I'm saying? 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:37.679 We got commonality. 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:38.960 And I love that so much. 00:16:39.200 --> 00:16:42.240 So you the dance studio, what happened? 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:42.960 What happened? 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:45.679 Well, I graduated from uh college. 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:49.519 Um, my undergrad is in uh business management and entrepreneurship. 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:53.679 And so I had all the book sense for a dance studio, but I didn't have no money. 00:16:54.799 --> 00:17:00.879 I mean, it's it's nice to know how to run a business, but you gotta have money to turn the lights on and all of those things. 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:03.440 And so I attempted, I did like a summer camp. 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:09.359 Um, so I did the summer camp and it went well, but it just wasn't enough to consistently do dance. 00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:12.480 So I ended up, I started substitute teaching. 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:14.480 Um, and so I did that. 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:16.079 I was like, oh, this is okay. 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:19.440 And so then I got certified in business education and all that

stuff. 00:17:19.599 --> 00:17:22.720 So that's that was my trajectory into education. 00:17:23.359 --> 00:17:26.160 But there was a girl that I knew of. 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:29.599 We went to high school together, and God said, She had a dance studio. 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:33.119 God said, reach out to her and see, you know, if she needs any help. 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:34.240 And that's all I did. 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:36.640 I said, Hey, I was just calling and see if you need any help. 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:41.599 And we had a meeting, and she said, I was about to shut this down because I couldn't do it by myself any longer. 00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:42.160 Oh, yeah. 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:47.279 So we ran a successful dance studio for five years in Baton Ridge. 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:53.119 We did ages two to adult, they did recitals, parades, competitions. 00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:54.559 We did it all. 00:17:54.720 --> 00:17:57.119 So God definitely answered the prayer. 00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:03.759 It just I I thought it was gonna be like a solo thing, and but it was in partnership that God answered that prayer. 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:07.279 And so my goal was accomplished with that. 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:10.400 There's more I want to do, but yeah, the studio happened. 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:13.759 It most wait, so what's happening with it now? 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:14.960 Well, so since you moved. 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:16.000 Yeah, so I moved here. 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:22.720 Her and her husband had their second child, so we the way that it kind of ended was you know very amicable. 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:24.960 Nothing, we're still friends, saw her yesterday. 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:26.319 Um, but so the studio. 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:27.359 She moved to Dallas, too? 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:33.759 No, she her and she had her second child, so she kind of did that, and she's you know, doing some other stuff. 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:37.680 She teaches dance sometimes, but there is no actual studio anymore. 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:43.519 But the girls, they've graduated and so I'm in college now and all of the things. 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:46.319 So, but yeah, the studio happened. 00:18:46.559 --> 00:18:47.839 Wow, that's so beautiful. 00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:48.880 I love that so much. 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:52.799 So, can you tell us a little bit more about all of the rest of your entrepreneur work? 00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:56.799 And because aren't you uh an educator not just in dance? 00:18:56.880 --> 00:18:57.519 What else do you do? 00:18:57.759 --> 00:19:03.680 So I teach business education, so I teach entrepreneurship, so I teach what I learned, you know, in undergrad. 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:06.240 So business, I love business and dance. 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:08.160 Um, those are my my favorite things. 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:08.960 You know what? 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:12.079 You you are literally quickly becoming one of my favorite people. 00:19:12.160 --> 00:19:12.960 This is lit. 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:14.400 I'm excited. 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:15.440 I love dance talks. 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:19.039 Yes, I love all things business, all things dance. 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:25.680 Um, but I became a business educator because I realized that there are so many people that need the skill of business. 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:29.039 They have gifts and talents, but they don't know how to run a business. 00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:31.519 And so that's what got me teaching. 00:19:31.680 --> 00:19:34.880 And then when I moved to Dallas, it was kind of during COVID. 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:39.119 I was seeing so many women, especially start businesses, but they were lasting three months. 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:40.960 And I was like, God, what's wrong? 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:45.920 Like, their thing that they're doing is good and they are successful in the thing. 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:48.160 And he said, Yeah, but they don't know how to run a business. 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:52.720 He was like, the things that you're teaching your high school students, women need this. 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:55.039 They don't have time to go back to college for it. 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:58.480 They don't have time to like sit in the full program. 00:19:58.559 --> 00:20:01.039 So I became a business coach for female entrepreneurs. 00:20:01.839 --> 00:20:02.160 Wow. 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:10.000 And so I helped entrepr female entrepreneurs not just do their thing well, but run a business well so they can actually make income. 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:11.359 I love that so much. 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:13.039 So, what are you studying in school? 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:21.599 So, my my um doctorate is a doctorate in education, but it's a focus on adult learners because I love working with adults. 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:33.200 That's I've done the kid thing and I love it, but adults, I know that adults learn completely different from children, and sometimes people try to teach adults like there are children and it doesn't work. 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:41.920 So and when I do preventative burnout and um trainings and things, I want them to know this is for an adult, not for a child. 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:46.640 I'm not gonna have you doing some of the things that we would, you know, to get a child to learn. 00:20:46.799 --> 00:20:48.720 You're an adult, it needs to be relevant to you. 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:51.119 How can you actually use this in your real life? 00:20:51.279 --> 00:20:57.119 Yeah, not because with a child, you might be teaching them things that they're gonna use 10 years from now. 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:00.799 But no, adult needs to be able to use that thing in six months or less. 00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:06.720 Whatever you're teaching, they need to be able to apply it to their life in six months or less. 00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:08.000 I love that. 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:16.319 So as you are

teaching adults and you also learning how to continue teaching adults, yes. 00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:21.200 Um, what has been your personal background while you're doing that? 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:27.680 While you're entreprene while you're doing your entrepreneurial work, as well as going to school, how is it family-wise? 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:28.079 Yes. 00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:29.680 Um, family-wise has been good. 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:31.759 My husband definitely understands. 00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:35.680 Um but I have learned time management very well. 00:21:35.920 --> 00:21:36.240 Okay. 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:41.200 Um, and even when I I still teach, but I teach virtually now. 00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:44.559 And so when I'm on a break, I'm doing my work. 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:47.599 I I burnt out as an educator, year two. 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:50.640 So that's what really like sparked the preventative burnout. 00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:55.200 I was still teaching in person, but I burnt out and I was like, this can't be. 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:59.359 And I thought I needed a whole new career, and God was like, No, you just need to set better boundaries. 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:04.640 And so a lot of people burn out and they think, oh, I just need to find something else to do. 00:22:05.039 --> 00:22:06.480 No, sometimes it's you. 00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:08.079 You might be the problem. 00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:08.960 Right? 00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:12.640 You keep saying yes to things that you know you don't have the capacity for. 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:13.680 Ooh, child. 00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:16.880 You keep saying yes to things that you were good in the last season. 00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:17.759 They keep asking you. 00:22:17.839 --> 00:22:19.680 So you like, oh well, they need me. 00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:20.960 They're gonna find somebody else. 00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:21.519 Say no. 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:22.480 Wow. 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:29.920 Because if you don't, you don't have anything else to give, and you're not gonna be able to complete your God-given assignment in this season. 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:30.160 Yeah. 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:33.440 You're gonna be able to complete man's assignment for you. 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:36.480 But then you have to do that on your own strength. 00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:37.359 Ooh. 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:39.519 And this that's never fun. 00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:42.160 And then emotional exhaustion sits in. 00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:49.039 I was that was my next question asking you about you being a preventative burnout specialist. 00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:49.359 Uh-huh. 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:51.440 And you're already unpacking it. 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:52.000 Okay. 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:53.920 Because let me tell you something. 00:22:54.079 --> 00:22:56.079 The capacity ain't capacitying. 00:22:56.319 --> 00:22:56.880 Yeah, yeah. 00:22:57.119 --> 00:23:04.319 And I, man, full disclosure, even today, I feel like I just stretched myself maybe a little too hard. 00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:04.720 Yeah. 00:23:05.039 --> 00:23:07.440 But I was just going with the push through. 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:08.400 I'm so glad I did, though. 00:23:08.480 --> 00:23:08.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:23:09.119 --> 00:23:10.000 So glad I did, though. 00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:13.759 But I had a moment where I'm like, is this burnout or is this just exhaustion? 00:23:14.079 --> 00:23:16.079 Because I'm doing so many different things. 00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:19.839 So, how can we catch when we are burnt out? 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:27.759 Like, what are the signs of knowing that we're burnt out as an individual who is, you know, doing this work-life balance situation? 00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:33.839 Um, I think the first thing, and this is what I've noticed, I don't think there's real balance. 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:35.599 Like, that's that's a real thing. 00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:43.200 I think there's harmony because sometimes you're gonna give 70% to one thing and only the other thing can only get 30 that day. 00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:46.400 But I think when we try to balance it, then you feel guilty. 00:23:46.559 --> 00:23:49.119 Oh, I did so much for that and I didn't do enough. 00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:50.960 Okay, that was just one day. 00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:51.759 It's fine. 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:53.839 Don't feel guilty about it. 00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:57.599 Just wake up the next day and change it a little bit, right? 00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:08.480 And I think taking that guilt away, and you know, like, oh, I did all of this with my family, I didn't do anything with work and all of these things, that's where guilt and condemnation come. 00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:17.119 And then the enemy steps in and starts condemning, and you feel and you don't feel conviction, you feel, oh well, I gotta fix this. 00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:19.440 I I have to go above and beyond. 00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:22.240 And God's like, No, tomorrow. 00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:24.319 There's always tomorrow. 00:24:24.640 --> 00:24:30.000 Sometimes we try to fit so much in 24 hours, and God's like new mercies every morning. 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:33.839 I got you tomorrow, it's gonna be okay. 00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:48.559 It is going to be okay, and so when we are especially kingdom people, we have a lot of assignments, but it's very easy to mix up what God is telling us to do in this season versus what he told us to do in the last season. 00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:53.039 And sometimes the grace is gone, and that's why it's hard. 00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:58.880 That's why, not because he never told you to do it, but he you're done. 00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:00.640 It's time to move on. 00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:03.440 And that's okay. 00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:06.799 Sorry, this is hitting home. 00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:10.240 This is hit it's okay, it's okay. 00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:17.440 And when we realize it's okay, and I know, and

we're probably we're in the same generation, we our parents, right? 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:24.559 And grandparents especially, they got a job or whatever, and they they stayed with it 40 years, retirement, all those things. 00:25:24.799 --> 00:25:27.839 And so that's been what's modeled for us. 00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:32.000 But the same God that gave you this thing will give you something else. 00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:34.640 You don't have to hold on to it for dear life. 00:25:34.799 --> 00:25:35.039 Yeah. 00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:39.599 Because sometimes he's trying to pry it out of our hands, and we believe and we like, what's wrong? 00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:41.680 Just open your hands and let it go. 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:47.920 And what I do know is if God is telling you to let something go, he has somebody else to step in and do that thing. 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:49.519 It's not gonna fall to the ground. 00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:54.960 And a lot of times we're not in the spaces where we're thinking, who can I train to do this? 00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:56.640 I can't do this forever. 00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:01.119 Let me start training somebody to take my spot so I can move forward. 00:26:01.279 --> 00:26:03.920 As an educator, I give assignments all the time. 00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:07.200 And at some point, you gotta turn it in and be done with it. 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:08.400 That part. 00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:09.279 I have to do something. 00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:13.039 At some point, you gotta turn assignment in and be done with it. 00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:14.720 Yeah, you're not getting bonus points. 00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:15.519 Lord Jesus. 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:22.799 And sometimes with God, we think, oh, well, if I just keep going, he's not giving you bonus points for staying in a place that you've outgrown. 00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:25.759 And that's what I call imposter syndrome. 00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:29.839 Imposter syndrome is not going in spaces and feeling like I don't belong. 00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:34.240 Imposter syndrome is you are a high school senior sitting in a kindergarten classroom. 00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:35.920 You're an imposter in that room. 00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:37.839 You too big to be in that space. 00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:39.440 You've outgrown that. 00:26:39.759 --> 00:26:41.039 But now you're an imposter. 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:42.480 You look because it's comfortable. 00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:44.480 You know everything that's gonna be taught. 00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:49.519 You sitting in there with your favorite teacher, and God is like, You too big for this. 00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:54.400 This is you, you are being an imposter, staying in places that you've outgrown. 00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:56.000 Time to go. 00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:57.039 Oh my goodness. 00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:58.079 Oh my goodness. 00:26:58.240 --> 00:27:00.720 This because this can apply to so many things. 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:03.119 It's applying to school, it can apply to church. 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:10.799 Yeah, okay, it can apply to business, it can apply to just livelihood with our people. 00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:12.480 Yeah, you know what I'm saying? 00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:30.480 Like, oh my goodness, this is I and it's like as you are talking, so many more questions are like popcorn in my brain because it's so many of us who need to know when when we are doing something and our time is up with the thing, when the grace has lifted, yeah. 00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:34.880 Okay, before I get to the one question I want to ask, because this has to do with people. 00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:35.119 Okay. 00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:40.720 Um, can burnout be a result of being a people pleaser? 00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:41.359 Oh, yeah. 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:42.640 And how? 00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:45.440 Absolutely, because you always say yes. 00:27:45.759 --> 00:27:55.119 Or and and people please accept and the fear of rejection, if I don't that, if I don't say yes, are they not are they gonna stop talking to me? 00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:57.119 Am I not gonna get invited the next time? 00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:03.680 And so it's really the fear of rejection that's causing you to people please, that's causing you to be burnt out. 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:07.599 Because they're pouring all their stuff on you and you have nowhere to give it. 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:12.799 And you stop you for people pleasing, you begin to carry and not just care. 00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:20.079 You begin to carry the weights of other people because you like you start trying to figure it out, and that wasn't the purpose. 00:28:20.319 --> 00:28:27.599 You were supposed to pray about it, but you you start, oh well, let me let me let me get a resource for them, let me connect them with it. 00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:37.119 In some situations, yes, but all of them, every situation you're trying to figure it out, as my mentor says, You're not junior Jesus. 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:38.160 What are you doing? 00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:42.720 That's not your responsibility, and so again, the fear of rejection. 00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:55.759 And so people that have dealt with that definitely are more prone to being burnt out because they just keep saying yes, not that and they don't want to, they know when they go home, they're like, Oh, I shouldn't have said yes to that. 00:28:56.000 --> 00:29:07.039 Like you, and then you become bitter doing the thing, and it's like you should have just said no in the beginning, but they won't they won't tell the people that because they don't want to get rejected. 00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:09.680 You're right, that is so good. 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:22.480 Okay, so this question I gotta so this question, I wanna I'm I'm I gotta try to phrase it how I'm seeing it in my brain. 00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:24.880 We talked about assignments, yes. 00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:40.880 When we have an assignment from God, and we may have

received like some type of confirmation on it, but we still weren't sure. 00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:48.079 Okay, and we attempted it in the season, and then it just, you know what I'm saying? 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:50.319 We just didn't have the capacity to get it done. 00:29:50.960 --> 00:30:01.839 And then now here it goes, time has passed, but we feel guilty about not completing that assignment and trying to return to it, but don't really know what to do because I don't have the capacity again. 00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:03.440 What are we doing at this point? 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:04.160 You know what I'm saying? 00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:07.839 Is it yeah, has the grace lifted that I missed the assignment window? 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:11.119 Like, you know, and I think clearly this was personal. 00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:19.279 And I think for the capacity issue, if God is calling you to do it again, there is space to do it, but there's something on your plate that shouldn't be. 00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:22.160 And that's where the issue is. 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:27.119 Oh, it's not that you don't have the capacity, it's something gotta go. 00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:33.920 Because God, and I always say this, guys want you can have excellence without exhaustion. 00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:38.480 If you are exhausted, something wrong. 00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:43.680 There's there is something on your plate that you are supposed to let go of. 00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:57.599 It might seem very small to you, it might be keep you keep answering that phone when you're not supposed to, and but those people are dumping their problems on you, and and that that's taking up your capacity. 00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:00.640 Ooh, so it might be time on social media. 00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:07.599 Yeah, it might not be something that you are actively putting your hands to do, and you're like, oh well, my schedule seems a little free, but I still don't. 00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:12.480 No, it might be something you're entertaining that's taking up some of your capacity. 00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:16.559 Okay, yeah, that's that's good right there. 00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:19.680 I'm gonna take it at home and think about that. 00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:21.200 Okay, yeah, yeah. 00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:35.920 Because my goodness, okay, so when we are um burnt out and we realize we are burnt out, and then we start alleviating some of the tasks and assignments. 00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:43.440 If we believe that this is something that is a part of our purpose, how do we know what it's safe to go back to it? 00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:46.559 Um, I believe that God will definitely confirm it. 00:31:46.640 --> 00:31:52.880 The season, so like I talked about dance, there was a time since I've been in Dallas that I didn't dance. 00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:57.599 And I just started back dancing two weeks ago in my church. 00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:02.480 And but for that time, I knew I still loved dance, but it wasn't the time. 00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:07.119 And God will give you a piece about it to go back, He will start opening doors. 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:11.839 They had a ministry fair, and it was like the dance ministry, like it all just lined up. 00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:18.000 And sometimes we try to push our way in, or sometimes the door is open, and but we so comfortable, we like, I don't know about that. 00:32:18.160 --> 00:32:21.279 And God is like, hey, no, it's time, it's time again. 00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:22.880 I didn't know I would dance again. 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:26.000 Like after I left Louisiana, I was like, oh well, that was great. 00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:26.960 I loved it. 00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:28.559 Didn't know if I would do it again. 00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:30.960 God's like, yeah, the gift is still there. 00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:37.119 I needed, and I know for me, God needed me to not dance so I could get my voice back. 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:40.559 Because I was used to dancing and expressing myself. 00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:43.440 He's like, I need you to use your words in this season. 00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:44.000 Wow. 00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:47.920 So he closed that door so I could get a voice. 00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:50.559 And now I have a voice and I have movement. 00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:52.000 I don't have one or the other. 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:53.920 We got a voice and movement. 00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:55.359 Both now. 00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:59.039 We're not, you know, just stuck in dance. 00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:00.400 We can do both. 00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:02.240 I love that so much. 00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:14.000 And what's crazy, the example you brought up about dance, I was dancing every single day, day in and day out, at the church situation that I had to basically get out of. 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:14.319 Yeah. 00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:14.720 Uh-huh. 00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:21.200 And I didn't even know the situation that I was in until I got burnt out on the dance ministry. 00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:24.319 And I was just like, I do this all the time. 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:30.319 Why am I feeling like dance in the middle of my apartment floor in the living room? 00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:31.359 It's how I worship God. 00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:36.559 I will put on a song and the Lord would just start moving my body like while we're in prayer together. 00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:39.519 Like sometimes I won't even pray, but I'll just get up and dance. 00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:48.000 And it's like when I reach that part of okay, this is tiring me out, and I don't feel like I'm missed ministering. 00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:49.759 Now I feel like I'm just pushing through. 00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:50.160 Yeah, yeah. 00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:52.799 That's when the Lord opened my eyes about the situation that I was in. 00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:54.000 That's how I came out of it. 00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:58.480 So it's just like the fact that you use that as an

example is just so beautiful. 00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:01.200 Because we be having to, okay, wake up. 00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:02.079 You know what I'm saying? 00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:09.920 We'd be having to wake up and know when a season has shifted, when it has, you know, when our time has become up. 00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:10.639 Yeah. 00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:14.639 Um, I wanted to ask you about your book because you are an author as well. 00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:15.280 Yes. 00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:17.199 Can you tell us about it? 00:34:17.440 --> 00:34:17.679 Yes. 00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:19.360 Um, so I'll tell you about Joy Hunt. 00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:20.400 That's the newest book. 00:34:20.480 --> 00:34:24.480 Um, Joy Hunt is What if Joy was never lost, just buried? 00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:32.639 And it's and it's that because what I do know is joy combats burnout. 00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:35.360 Joy combats burnout. 00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:36.159 That's crazy. 00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:39.360 So when I'm lacking in joy, I'm burnt out somewhere. 00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:41.039 Or that's a possibility? 00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:41.679 Yeah. 00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:42.639 That's some good stuff. 00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:43.280 Okay, keep going. 00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:43.679 Sorry. 00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:45.360 So joy combats burnout. 00:34:45.440 --> 00:35:03.280 So basically, if you are living a joyous life, you are um grateful, you are not sitting in unforgiveness, you are not um, you're showing up as your full self, burnout can't last there because it can't last because you're aware, awareness. 00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:07.119 Yeah, you're aware of what you have on your plate, you're aware of who you're connected to. 00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:14.800 Some of us are connected to people just because we've known them our whole lives, but they are a part of our emotional exhaustion. 00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.280 Every time you talk to them, it's a problem. 00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:19.519 It's messy. 00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:21.760 It's so, you know, it's just like it's heavy. 00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:26.880 You get off the phone with them and you're like, your whole, your whole countenance is changed. 00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:33.360 You're like, but nothing's wrong, but you just heard what they what they just shared and they keep sharing the same type of stuff. 00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:37.599 And so joy, because it says the joy of the Lord is my strength, right? 00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:37.920 Yeah. 00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:42.880 So if you have the joy of the Lord and then you now you have strength, burnout can't last there. 00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:49.840 Burnout is meant to, I know that is a tactic of the enemy for you to be emotionally exhausted. 00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:51.760 The other sign is cynicism. 00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:56.639 When something used to, let's say you're working your boss, say, Hey, can you send an email? 00:35:56.800 --> 00:35:58.239 Oh, why I gotta send an email,

baby. 00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:01.519 That's your job, but you're cynical about it now. 00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:03.360 That's a sign of burnout. 00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:04.559 I'm burnt out. 00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:05.840 I'm burnt out at work. 00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:08.960 You ain't got to tell me no more. 00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:12.800 But here's the thing because it's like, but that's your job. 00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:29.039 Like, and uh, this happens a lot, especially in education, where people come into education, they love it, and then over time, they they the teacher that they like, hey, you know, go talk to this one, but don't don't hang out with this one, and you think, oh, they just got a bad attitude, they're probably burnt out. 00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:32.639 That's just how it's showing up in them, so it can show up differently. 00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:38.559 And the other sign of it is you're doing really good work and it doesn't feel like anything to you. 00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:43.119 Like you are achieving big things and it just feels like a chick. 00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:47.039 Wow, because you don't have the joy that's supposed to be there, you don't. 00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:50.239 You just it's good, but you're like, oh yeah, okay. 00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:55.440 It just feels so normal and natural, and not to the point of oh, I don't know, I have the gift. 00:36:55.519 --> 00:36:57.199 It's just like, no, for real. 00:36:58.000 --> 00:36:59.280 And you move on. 00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:03.280 You don't see, you don't take time to celebrate it at all. 00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:07.599 If somebody says, Oh, congratulations on your post, you're like, Oh, okay. 00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:09.519 And then you go on to the next thing. 00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:15.039 And the thing is getting me right together on today. 00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:17.679 Because I got a few celebrations that's penta. 00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:18.559 Yeah, okay. 00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:21.840 Yeah, I need to go celebrate success, yeah, accomplishment. 00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.639 And you know, I grew up as a football girl. 00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:25.920 I love love watching football. 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:33.119 I was at a game yesterday, but the thing is, at football games, they don't wait till the till it says 0-0-0 to celebrate. 00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:35.599 They celebrate every single play. 00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:36.960 We don't do that. 00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:46.320 We don't celebrate every little thing, and so it's pent up, and by the time the game's over, you're like, Well, did I win or did I lose? 00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:49.199 Like, that's that's how you decide if you celebrate. 00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:53.840 When in the football game, they don't know if they're gonna win or lose, they just celebrate every play. 00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:59.440 If we begin to celebrate everything, the the final score won't matter to us as much. 00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:05.679 That is so good, and that's how we keep enjoying this. 00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:09.760 I was up on my feet all day yesterday, cheering. 00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:13.360 Didn't know if they was gonna win or lose, but that didn't matter. 00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:15.440 I was cheering for them. 00:38:16.159 --> 00:38:16.800 Wow. 00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:19.199 That's so good. 00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:21.599 That is so good. 00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:26.400 Like, my goodness. 00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:37.119 And I think the the society we live in, especially in a social media world, it's like we're pushing through sometimes because of people pleasing. 00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:41.440 Yes, but then we're also pushing through because we just need something to show for our lives. 00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:41.840 Yes. 00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:51.519 We need something to say that we're doing, and so we just going and going and going, and like, yeah, we're sharing these accomplishments online and all these things, but are you really celebrating them? 00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:52.000 Yeah. 00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:53.039 You just made a post. 00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:57.599 Yes, because when you just said somebody told you congratulations, you just like, okay. 00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:00.719 Like, yeah, that's been me. 00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:01.039 Yeah. 00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:02.480 On a few different agents. 00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:02.880 Okay. 00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:03.760 Absolutely. 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:11.519 And I have dealt with that to the point that in 2023, God said it's just not you that I hosted an event in Dallas called Celebrating Your Wins. 00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:16.639 It was a brunch for women that cheer loudly for others but rarely celebrate themselves. 00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:19.519 It was it went amazing. 00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:22.880 It was business owners, people that just moved to the city. 00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:27.519 It was phenomenal to the point that I did the same event in Baton Ridge that same year. 00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:33.360 And that was the time the message was called Joy Hunt, and that birthed the book. 00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:35.119 Wow, that's so beautiful. 00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:37.119 You have another one too because I was a cop. 00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:40.159 Yes, we have some events in Oshi. 00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:42.000 But everything you got, we're gonna need some invites. 00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:42.800 Yes, you would. 00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:44.639 Okay, tag me in. 00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:46.320 And we need to dance to each other. 00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:48.159 Yes, absolutely. 00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:48.960 I would love that. 00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:56.159 Because I think with me um not really having a church home yet here in Dallas, I have been attending a church. 00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:59.039 Um, but they don't have a dance ministry yet that church. 00:39:59.199 --> 00:39:59.679 Okay, gotcha. 00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:04.719 So it's like I've been feeling, I don't know,

that's not my hesitancy in joining. 00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:06.639 Let me just say that. 00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:08.320 It's not my hesitancy in joining. 00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:10.400 I want to go where the Lord wants me to be, okay? 00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:13.599 Because I'm I messed up, I made mistakes in that area. 00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:20.079 But um, yeah, like if I could just get together with people who dance with the Lord. 00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:23.840 Yes, dance for the Lord and we can just dance together, you know what I'm saying? 00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:24.639 Yeah, yeah. 00:40:24.719 --> 00:40:33.519 But I was listening to a song this whole weekend, a few different songs this whole weekend, and just seeing choreography in my mind of how I wanted to move my body to it. 00:40:33.599 --> 00:40:44.239 And I'm just like, I mean, I could do this myself and everything, but it would be lovely to move with other people who also are ministers of movement, you know, who use their bodies in worship. 00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:46.000 So we we can make it happen. 00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:47.039 We got to make it happen. 00:40:47.119 --> 00:40:47.280 Yeah. 00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:47.599 Okay. 00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:48.159 Yes. 00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:51.679 So we going up, it's all about elevation in God. 00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.519 I always say that it's no moment too low for you to come up from. 00:40:56.000 --> 00:41:00.880 So can you share with us a little moment that you had to come up from? 00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:12.159 Can you let us know a time where you may have experienced something or survived something that nobody knows about, or anything you want to share that God had to pull you out of a pit from? 00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:14.639 And what did He teach you in that elevation? 00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:15.519 Absolutely. 00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:21.039 So um I was still teaching in Baton Ridge, and I remember being on my planning period, right? 00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:27.360 I was at work, and I just remember thinking, I said, God, there has to be more, right? 00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:34.960 I had my master's and all of these things, but I it just felt like I was living the same life, the same day over and over again. 00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:38.480 I would get up, go to the gym, go to work, teach dance, go to sleep. 00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:39.920 It was the same life. 00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:43.599 And I was like, this can't be all life. 00:41:43.840 --> 00:41:48.559 And God very plainly told me, He said, I'm not holding you hostage. 00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:50.400 You're comfortable with your paycheck. 00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:52.079 Oh, child. 00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:53.280 I said, What? 00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:55.840 And the paycheck ain't even nothing to be comfortable with. 00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:56.159 Right? 00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:00.239 He said, He told me, girl, it's go time. 00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:04.719 And that became the name of my business and my first book and all of those things. 00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:11.599 And so when in that situation, because I so I think God led me to teaching, so I would get my voice back. 00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:13.679 So I had to, I had to talk all day, every day. 00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:21.039 I was teaching high school, and so teaching gave me my voice because I had to use, I couldn't be teacher and don't say nothing. 00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:21.199 Right. 00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:27.760 And so that helped develop my voice and get me comfortable in front of talking and talking in front of people. 00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:31.280 And so God told me to write the book, Girl is Go Time. 00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:37.280 And I felt like I should not be writing a book called That because nothing in my life was going. 00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:44.000 I felt like you need to get somebody else to do this for real, because this did not align with my lifestyle at all. 00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:47.360 And he told me, once you write the book, everything's gonna change. 00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:52.400 I wrote the book and I got it published in July 2019. 00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:54.480 In August 2019, I got married. 00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:57.119 October 2019, we moved to Dallas. 00:42:57.360 --> 00:42:59.360 Um, and then I got another job. 00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:04.800 Like my last name changed, my zip code changed, my pay grade changed, everything changed. 00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:11.119 But he needed me to release it into the earth first, and then everything changed. 00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:15.760 So there might be something that God is telling you to do, and you're like, I don't, I don't feel called. 00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:17.280 I don't, I don't think I'm good enough. 00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:18.320 Do it anyway. 00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:20.639 Because he's trying to set you up for what's next. 00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:22.639 OMG. 00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:26.239 I don't think that was the question, ma'am. 00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:28.320 You don't think that was the question? 00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:30.400 That's who he pulled me out. 00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:32.159 That's who he pulled me out from. 00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:32.559 Yeah. 00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:35.199 Oh, that just got me right together. 00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:40.480 Wait, so you did what he asked you to do, and then all these things unfolded. 00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:45.280 That fabulous the marriage, the relocation, the the different tax bracket. 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:47.199 We need to pray for me. 00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:48.960 We need to pray for me. 00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:52.960 I got some transitions that need to happen in this life, okay? 00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:53.760 Yeah. 00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:55.039 That is the thing. 00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:58.880 And I I until the point that I had written the book, and I was like, I'm done. 00:43:59.039 --> 00:43:59.599 He was like, but. 00:44:00.239 --> 00:47:44.079 sitting in your laptop you know i meant

to publish it so i had finished writing the book but i was like i finished it and uh my he was my fiance and then he was like so you you're not gonna publish the book like what what's the when i published it oh jam everything i've had enough actually had enough actually we're done we're done why is this so on brand what the lord has been saying to me this is a lot actually and no this is a this like my mind you know is like okay laurie i hear you thank you thank you thank you you know what i'm saying when you just want to be like no no no no i get it and it's it's not happening that i've been my coaching call be like you good you they be like no that's it actually i'm good um i do reignitations for burnout prevention they be like okay then you i was like okay i'll i'll stop if that's all you can handle so this is normal with you yeah bullet it blooded we have being over to be like I'm ready because we're cherry tomorrow no for real like seriously you're not alone this is I don't feel no type of way this is apparent yeah but the and for the people like but I was quiet all those years but all I couldn't even imagine you being quiet right now yeah exactly and but but the enemy knew all this was there so silence her wow and nobody'll ever know wow we thank God for you using your voice thank you we thank god that he did not get an opportunity to silence you yeah wow okay so the the book that he made you publish and write let's unpack that one okay so that one is called girl is go time and it was about um women um not sitting on the sideline and going after everything with their names on it I know that's yeah and so we talked about friendship your relationship with money your relationship with God your relationship with yourself too about how you perceive yourself and why you holding yourself back because a lot of it is not God doing it is you you don't see yourself the way God sees you and when you don't see yourself the way the father sees you and you think that you are an orphan and you forget you're an heir then that's that's where the problem is I know so um yeah and so we we unpack that like you are not an orphan you belong to the king of kings your co heir with Jesus what what you what you doing that's so beautiful and and that's the reason we can keep going and moving forward and getting the things with our name on it because it's our heritage absolutely we already have access to it's in the wheel it's in the wheel it's in the wheel I love that so much who it's I'm nervous asking you another question don't be nervous um I'll just play I'll just play I'll just play but this is all so good no I love talking to you because I feel like I'm growing in this moment do you get that a lot in your sessions but a lot of growth it is but I know real quick I yeah I know it's not I know Holy Spirit be like and say this and say this and say this like even now I mean I know the information but he's like and say that and say that and say that I just say what he

says I love that okay so as the entrepreneur and the author and the doing all of the things do you have children? 00:47:44.320 --> 00:48:17.519 No not yet pray y'all pray y'all pray okay and and that's something that God's gonna do it okay okay he's gonna do it okay so you you well you got business and books and stuff so you know what I'm saying yeah you got uh what is it called business babies business babies okay so when do you graduate and after you do have the doctorate and all of those things what are the next steps um so I am working on my dissertation now so we will be doctorate sometime in 2027. 00:48:17.679 --> 00:50:13.679 Okay that that is that is happening um and so I after that so my goal is to first of all I didn't want to go get no doctorate let's start that I didn't want to get a master's this obedience move absolutely okay when I graduated from undergrad I was I'm done I grades were fine I'm not doing school was never hard for me like I always did good but I'm like I'm I'm all right I'm cool and so when the doctorate came around I had to check myself I say am I trying to do this because I want to be called doctor because if that that's the case oh no and but that's what the enemy was telling me he was like you you just want to be called doctor and and I paused that was a lot I paused on going to school I was like well I'm not doing that for for that reason and God said no I'm telling you to do this in obedience you go and I will be with you every step of the way and when I tell you he has not left me sometimes papers I'm writing them turning them in at midnight I had full time jobs doing this traveling on cruises writing pay like doing all of the things but God said and I don't fully know why I need to be doctored I don't know because I'm I'm already walking as a preventative burnout specialist but there's a reason that that's yet to be revealed to me of why doctor needs to be there but I believe there are some spaces that is going to be important some kingdom spaces some natural spaces but it's to really um to do trainings conferences um corporate trainings and all of those things I've done some professional developments in schools where I'm really I tell them this is not about you being a good teacher or whatever this is about you you as a person and so tissue be going around the room like it's that type of thing. 00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:21.360 I'm not worried about who you are in the classroom I'm worried about you as a person and so really getting to the root of all of those things. 00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:33.840 But yeah national conferences international retreats all of the things like that's and I'm walking in some of it but apparently doctor needs to be there for other doors to open so I'm just being obedient. 00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:37.440 Okay and it's gonna happen I love that so much Dr. 00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:43.760 Danielle loading yes and I can't wait till you can erase the loading off the Instagram handle because you're gonna be Dr. 00:50:43.920 --> 00:51:19.119 Danielle I love that so much so how can um what's the process of being involved in your preventative burnout yeah so I offer um reignite sessions so they're one-on-one session so if you're feeling like I heard this and girl we need to talk you can uh schedule a one-on-one session um and it's our session and we just talk about where you are but I don't just want to talk about it I need to give you a game plan so we get a game plan straight from the Holy Spirit so you can go because it's it's more about reversing the burnout and figuring out where you keep saying yes when you need to say no. 00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:29.840 Some people are leaving their jobs their careers their marriages because they're burnt out okay well let's deal with you because you're gonna get in another job another marriage and it's gonna happen again. 00:51:30.000 --> 00:52:02.000 Ooh okay so if we don't deal with it now it's you're it's following you it's not following the the career or anything and um so there are one-on-one sessions there is going to there is a um excellence without exhaustion cohort so if you want to do it in a more of a group setting all of those things are on my website at renewed consulting firm dot com or my Instagram at Dr DanielLodin I'm hosting a wellness retreat now I didn't say it so it's gotta happen Martin Luther King weekend and broken bow. 00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:23.840 Okay and so that is a time for you just to get away and be with the Lord and we're gonna do some wellness holistic wellness because those things a lot of times when people say holistic and we're not doing no hoodoo voodoo okay this is Jesus Christ over here right so it's grounded in the word of God and a lot of times people hear holistic they go I don't know what they're doing. 00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:38.000 Trust me hey camera we we we all Jesus over here and so with a wellness retreat friend is just to get away and rejuvenate ourselves we were nature just and when is this again this is Martin Luther King weekend okay in January 2027. 00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:50.719 Okay yes so that's like the the teens like this the 15th to 19th or yeah that is I think the MLK day is on the 18th I think yeah so it's that Friday to that Monday. 00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:53.840 So we would leave out that Monday since most people don't have work. 00:52:54.000 --> 00:53:00.639 So we'll start that Friday so Friday evening all day Saturday all day Sunday and we'll head back to Dallas on that Monday? 00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:13.840 Yeah okay I might need to sign up for that yes okay because you know well my birthday the following Friday okay okay on the 22nd gotcha and I already took off work you know what I'm saying under Okay. 00:53:14.000 --> 00:53:14.239 Yeah. 00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:14.639 Okay. 00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:15.199 Yeah. 00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:16.320 Okay, that's good to know. 00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:21.360 I was gonna ask you that for 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period so I'm still gonna ask you how people can say connected with you at the end anyway. 00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:35.840 Yeah but before that my last question to you um what does elevation mean to you and what is God elevating in this season of your life elevation means to me what only God can do. 00:53:36.079 --> 00:55:45.199 Okay because sometimes we grab and try to pull and God's like I got you I'm I'm I'm rising you up yeah like just just be consistent walk in integrity be open to opportunities don't think because I could have saw your post and say well don't nobody know me I don't have enough Instagram followers like I'm just you know that could have been and that might be what other people are saying well I don't know if I can and it's like but who did God say you were you know don't count yourself out because you if it looks like and God's like no go for it like I why not the worst the worst people can say is no just go for it and I think some people are really hiding themselves you're like oh well I'm just waiting to be found no you're hiding yourself God is not covering you like that you're hiding because you're comfortable and so you but elevation is not comfortable elevation is not comfortable okay it is not things have to shed for you to go up you're not by the time you get up you're not gonna be who you were when you started wow you will be a different person that's crazy you'll be and you know they say with elevation comes separation and there's been a lot of situations happening like that in my life and I am just like Lord is going up but can we at least not shared everything on the way up you know what I'm saying but I guess you just gotta look at it lighter you know you do get it lighter and the other thing is the people that are up they're already up there anyway so you don't have to pull them with you they are they were elevating too shut up the people you meet at the top you know what they were elevating they elevated they went through the same process so they get it so they're not trying to compete with you they're not trying to take your shot because they know what it felt like to get there and so there's a commonality there's a level of respect there they walk in integrity because they know how it felt to be down and they not trying to go back down either so they're gonna do the things that they need to do to stay up as well and make sure you don't fall that is so good. 00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:46.400 Thank you. 00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:56.239 I want you to use this moment this is your camera right here to talk to our we going up family and leave whatever encouragement that is on your heart. 00:55:56.320 --> 00:56:07.679 It can be anything that we've talked about in this conversation or whatever the Holy Spirit is leading you to say or even if you want to pray however this is your moment okay to encourage our We Going Up family. 00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:23.119 So we going up family it has been a privilege to have this time with you but I just want to encourage you for the woman that is silent for the woman or the man that feels like I know God called me to do something but I just don't know where to start start talking. 00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:43.280 God very clearly told me the people assigned to me their voice activated and if I stay silent they'll never know I exist they're praying for the gifts and the talents that you have the things that God has gifted you with but if you stay silent they won't be able to recognize you in the seat of all of this noise and your voice is very unique. 00:56:43.440 --> 00:57:12.800 I don't care if you don't like the sound of it remember that your words have weight yeah they are weighty and you have to begin to speak you have to begin to show up and God is going to cover you because some of us have done that before and we've been hurt but this time with him you're gonna be covered you are going to know how to use discernment when connecting with people because in this season collaboration is going to mean everything and you got to you got to work on your trust issues to go where God is telling you to go. 00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:25.679 So I pray that this was a beautiful conversation I enjoyed having it but I pray that you truly got something out of it that who you are today know that God has something bigger and greater for you. 00:57:28.559 --> 01:00:14.800 That was so beautiful that was so beautiful thank you so much thank you so much can you tell the people where they can find you you probably already did when I was asking you how to get involved with the preventive burnout but tell them where they can find you so you can find me at Dr Daniel loading on Instagram and TikTok and also Danielle Bartran on Facebook and LinkedIn my website is renewed consultingfirm.com so if you are the president of a corporation and you need preventative burnout strategies because of retention or you are a principal or at a school district whatever those things are I do do conferences professional developments trainings per in person and virtual but if you are individual and you say I feel like I'm burnt out or I'm headed that way I invite you to schedule a reignite a one-on-one reignite session with me as well because that way we can talk through where you are and give you a game plan to move forward and just stay connected because God has been push pulling and pushing me to do all kinds of stuff um and if you're in the DFW area I do have a community called the Well Within Her Collective and so it is holistic wellness grounded in the word of God and we do events and all of the things so if you're looking for community we have that as well that is so beautiful thank you for sharing with us thank you for coming you know we gotta leave on a high note that's how we're there yes we have to leave on a high note um our high note is Bible trivia okay because it was the word of the Lord it pulled me out of some pits and so I love to play it like this is one of my favorite biblical games okay you have a choice between easy or hard we're gonna go easy okay easy is kind of really easy though okay okay where was Moses born Moses uh he was born in Egypt okay you got it okay what is the last book of the New Testament Malachi New Testament oh New Testament Revelation yes you know that's okay hold on okay okay this is this is these are really easy okay okay in the book of Genesis okay who created the heavens and the earth the Lord look all three the the Trinity yes it definitely was God yeah okay look I'm gonna ask you one hard looking one okay and if it if I don't get it right we can cut it okay yes what is the first verse of Psalm 23 I think this is kind of easy which is what I wanted to ask you the Lord is my shepherd I shall not lie. 01:00:15.119 --> 01:01:12.159 Yes! okay you wouldn't have to this was so good so fruitful it was very um convicting you know and helpful for me and I have thoroughly enjoyed you thank you for reaching out you're welcome thank you so much yeah thank you so much like this has been so great thank you for joining us I appreciate you thank you did you have a good time huh oh yes okay just making sure you had a good time absolutely this is so good thank you and that's a wrap on this episode of We Going Up I pray that you were encouraged enlightened inspired or entertained in some kind of way never forget that there's no moment too low for you to come up from with God all things are possible and he's working all things together for your good thank you so much for watching and until next time we going up y'all