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Aging is not for the faint of heart.
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I'm Kim, a Proud Generation Xer, and I'm here with my baby boomer mom Karen.
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Together, we'll tackle the tough but necessary conversations, share the hilarious and sometimes embarrassing moments, and open up about the stories that truly touch the heart.
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Come with us as we explore what it means to navigate these years with our aging loved ones.
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So grab a cup of coffee or maybe a glass of wine.
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Invite your friends and family and join us for Walks with Mom.
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Welcome back, welcome back to Walks with Mom.
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My name is Kim, and I am a Generation Xer, and I'm here with my mom as a co-host.
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And I'm Karen and I'm a baby boomer.
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Yes, baby boomer.
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This year.
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This year.
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This year.
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I turned 80.
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You did.
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You turned 80.
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So if you didn't hear that, go back to the episodes of kind of we've we had aging.
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We'll have our producer put them in the show notes because I'm getting tired.
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And today, if you don't know where we're filming from, we're filming from a studio here in Mesa, Arizona.
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And uh it is June.
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No, wait, we're July.
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We're July and we are boiling.
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We are bowling.
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It's not even hitting its its peak yet.
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But we're what?
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It's 112, 113 outside.
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So um for those of you that are in cooler weather, we envy you during this time.
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But um We like our our winters though here.
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We yes, that's why we live here.
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We live here for the the nine other months of the year, right?
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Or eight months.
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It's more like six other months of the year.
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Come on, be real.
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Uh well, we don't have any natural disasters here in Arizona, so that's a that's a good thing, too.
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Um, but today's podcast is about multi-generational vacations.
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Family vacations, yeah.
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We just returned uh last week from taking 12 people.
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I guess there was a total of 12 of us, ages 14 to 80, on a family vacation.
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Now, first of all, before I preface this, mom's gonna ask the questions today, but I've always told people, they'll say, How was your vacation?
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And I always say, Well, there's I think trips and vacations, there's two different definitions, right?
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Uh-huh.
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Uh to me, this was not a vacation.
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This was a family trip, and we could talk about all the wonderful things, but this is a trip.
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In my opinion, a vacation is where I do absolutely nothing except what you want to do.
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I want to do.
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So, so in my opinion, there is definitely a difference between trip and vacation.
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This is definitely a trip.
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And they're both, they're both equally needed, I think.
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But I even though we say this was a family vacation, because that's just easier, I say it was a family trip.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So now you get to do the questions because you prepared.
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Well, first of all, this was our second family quote vacation.
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Yep.
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With uh a large part of our family.
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Yep, multi-generational.
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And we had so much fun on the first one where we went to Yellowstone.
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Yellowstone.
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And so there we were mostly there to see the scenery.
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Yeah.
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This was entirely different, although we did go to a cool place, uh, which was Big Bear Lake in California.
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We had this great Airbnb.
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It fit all 12 of us.
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And um we had five bathrooms, I think.
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Yeah, I think there was five bathrooms.
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Almost everybody had their own room.
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Yes, unless you were married or something like that.
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Yeah.
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So um why?
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Why do you want to do this?
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Well, it's developing family.
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You develop family relationships.
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Relationships.
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You know people more, you enjoy them, you learn to enjoy them.
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Yeah, I think what I enjoy about the the family trip is that it's when some organic conversations can happen that need to happen.
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I mean, there's always family dynamics.
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We we're not immune to having family dynamics.
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Um, so sometimes it's
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it's the space and the time to slow down and and have conversations that happen organically.
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Yeah.
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And those happen maybe when, you know, people are getting up in the morning and having a cup of coffee and they're sitting out on, you know, the patio and able to maybe just talk about some things that are on their heart.
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And just share without having to feel rushed by time or um yeah.
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Or the awkwardness, hey, I've been meaning to talk to you about this, or oh, that brings up, you know, you know, some catch up because in our busy world we're either used to texting.
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Well, it's texting, and how much can you say when you're texting?
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Yeah.
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Some people say a lot, but yeah, but it was time to catch up on people's like where they're at, what they're doing.
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So what was really nice about this vacation is different people took different roles in planning it.
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Now, she's the ultimate planner.
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The ultimate yes, I have the type A personality.
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Thank goodness she passed that on to my kids.
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Yeah, but you allocated this time.
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And but let me make that known is that in our previous vacation for Yellowstone, I didn't really allocate because um, you know, our kids were just kind of becoming adults.
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And so it was nice for um now my kids are are more adulting, and so I allocated roles to to people.
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And it I think it worked out really good.
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How did you feel?
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Oh, it did.
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So we we definitely had we had three different, we had kind of three different committees, I think.
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Okay.
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So we had the meal committee, the meal planning, the meal planning.
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Um, we had the entertainment committee, and I wouldn't say it was a committee, but there's definitely one in our family that is the neutral party, if that makes sense.
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Like he is the one that can redirect people in the nice, calm way that people don't feel like they were slapped in the face, if that makes sense.
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It's just his per personality.
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It's his personality.
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So I would have to say he's kind of like the one that is that keeps everybody at equal liberal.
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Yeah, on a neutral.
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There were different things planned, but nobody was obligated to participate in anything.
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Yeah.
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So I think to your point, mom, if people are planning a multi-generational vacation, they should plan activities that can be participated in and or not participated in, because there's some activities that you chose not to participate just because of the physical activity or the age that you chose not to participate.
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So yeah, everybody knows that they have that freedom.
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The freedom to advocate for themselves.
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So that's always that was that was a theme.
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You always advocate for yourself.
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Advocate for yourself.
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And if this is not your activity, that's fine, okay.
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Yeah.
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One of the things that did I think pretty much happen every single night is that we had dinner together.
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Yeah.
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Not necessarily the other meal.
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Sometimes yes, sometimes no, but dinner was always together.
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So we had time that we were all 12 together.
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Um and following that was a quote, family meeting.
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Well, it was a family council.
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So they made it like they made it like camp.
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Like we had family council and we went over the day, and we had challenges during the day of who could take the best photo or we had to take a photo with a complete stranger one day.
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And I was really impressed, mom, that you did the challenges of the day.
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Yeah.
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Every day.
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You know, not everybody did.
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No, but you did.
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Yeah.
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So good for you.
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Um, and and so that was one of the fun activities that happened.
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So we had a family council every night.
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Right.
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And the family council was to, you know, go through pictures took.
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We had a common um text.
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So everybody could load up pictures that they took that they wanted to share with everybody.
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Yeah.
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And we voted on which was the best picture, who met the challenge of the day, um, who had an unusual outfit on or something like that.
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Or the best outfit of the day.
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Yeah.
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So it that was kind of fun because we were all talking together.
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But the most fun was after that, we did a family game.
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Yes, we did.
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And it was uh really different each night.
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Can you imagine 12 people playing the same game?
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And different generations.
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So we have different generations.
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So in my opinion, we had four generations there.
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Four?
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I only count three.
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I know.
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We have we had the Gen Z.
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Um, and then I believe we have some in our family that are like right between the Gen Z and the millennials.
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So I call them zillennials.
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Okay.
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And then you have us, the Generation X, and then you had the baby boomers.
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So I feel like we had four generations there.
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But um how what were some good things about playing family games and what were some challenges about family games in a multi-generational setting?
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Well, the fun was that you really got to see people's personalities uh come out.
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And um it was because of the games chosen, like one was Mafia.
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I don't had never played mafia before, but you have to decide different things as a group.
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Yeah.
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And so to hear people try to convince you of their viewpoint and just I saw some people being very verbal that I would have never S, you know, expected to be verbal.
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And then there were some people that were very quiet.
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But it it was just kind of fun.
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And uh we played another game, where werewolf.
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Werewolf, yeah.
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It was very similar to Mafia.
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Yeah, but I I just saw everybody interacting, even those that were quiet, they were may have been playing a role by being quiet.
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So they were like in character, yeah.
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And one of the other games that we played, we were we were split into teams and we had to uh create a presentation for people to invest.
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I I can't think of the name of that show now, but it's a popular show.
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But we had to it remember that game?
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What was your team won?
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What did you have to convince everybody?
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We had to convince people to buy land on um Venus.
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Venus.
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Yes, yes, we had to convince people to buy land on Venus, and there were simple other things like a corn cob watch.
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And mine was waterproof firewood.
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Oh, yeah.
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So um it was randomly put on a team, so you didn't choose your friend or your close close close family member.
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Yeah.
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And you worked together to do this presentation, and um some interesting personalities came out.
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People that we wouldn't have thought that they they just uh kind of showed their skills.
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It was really nice.
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It was really nice.
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So what was the most difficult game to play multi-generationally?
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Well, it's called Fishbowl, and it's where um you put in a person, place, or thing into a fish bowl.
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Each person does that, and then you draw it out.
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Well, then you have to act it out or taught uh use descriptive words.
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Your team guess it.
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Yeah.
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Well, you just pulled it out of the bowl, and because we were multi-generational, some people put names in there of people the rest of us had known.
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The other generations didn't know.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, so that was the challenge.
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And that was a challenge then.
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So we learned quickly how we had to set some parameters on what you put in the fishbowl.
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Try to be sure it's something everybody would know because there are some very big generational differences and gaps in who's popular in your life or places you might go or things like that.
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So well, it wasn't this time, but we've played fishbowl before at another time, and I think you had put Rock Hudson in.
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And I was like, Everybody should know Rock Hudson.
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No, I no, and so even your generation is putting things in that the other, the younger generation didn't know about.
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So, but it it they were just fun anyway, you know, fun uh to to work together.
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And then during the day, you know, we did different activities.
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Um, you're welcome to go or you didn't go, you know.
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And uh I think we all went on the alpine slide.
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That was very fun.
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Even even the boomers.
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Yep.
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Even the boomers did the alpine slide.
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We had to have our grandkids help us sit down in those sleds.
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Into the sleds.
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But that made it more like family.
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And the funny thing is, is we don't have any pictures of that because we were all participating.
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And I think that's what I love is you know, I don't have pictures to capture the moment, but then I was very much present in the moment because we were all up on the top of the mountain at the same time.
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Take a chairlift to the top of the mountain, and we were all working on helping the boomers get down safely.
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Some of us went down before so we could help you guys get off.
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Yes.
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So it was really, you know, we were just in the moment.
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In the moment.
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And uh, I just feel like closer relationships are developed.
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Um and and so what would what is what are two things that you would suggest for multi-generational families when they're planning any type of vacation or trip together?
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Trip.
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Well you want to make it affordable.
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Okay.
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And of course, we had all sorts of generations with some people just don't have much income because they're in college.
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Right.
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So you have to plan for something that's financially able for everyone.
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And of course, we did have some people that were willing to uh help other people out financially.
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I think by staying in Airbnb, we were um had the ability to just sit down and play a game with somebody, you know, or or just sit down, like you said, a cup of coffee and talk.
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So space matters.
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So the space really matters.
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And there was plenty of space here.
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We didn't you you could get away if you needed to get away, you could go outside, you could uh had two living areas, retreat to your bedroom.
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Yeah.
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Um so you know, think about your space, think about the distance.
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Uh we purposely took this one so we could drive and not fly because of the cost.
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Um I think you need to have a ultimate planner so that it will get done.
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And communicate.
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Communicate with it.
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You've got to communicate with everybody what's gonna happen, the expectations.
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Yeah.
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Uh you're expected to pay this much for food.
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Um The only thing I did not like because I was on the food committee, was the amount of food I had to cook.
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Of course, we had like five young, huge, well, they're not huge, but boys.
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Yeah.
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Boys, men.
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And that was a lot of food we went to.
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Yeah, we did go through a lot of food.
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We did go through a lot of food.
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So what I think, what would you suggest to a baby boomer, somebody who's aging or on the older side as they go into a family trip?
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Because I saw you do a c a couple of of really smart things.
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Okay.
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Well, maybe you should tell me the smart things I did.
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Well, I think you advocated for yourself, but you also um you were in reality that it's a multi- it's not all about you.
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It was about everybody.
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Right.
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And so I think that was really smart that you embraced that, that uh you were flexible.
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Yes, yes.
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And realized that other people had other needs and wanted to do.
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Oh, one of the best things was the uh water balloon fight, by the way.
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Because I got to throw them at the other people.
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Yes, that was fun.
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That we forgot about that.
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Yeah, it was a good that's another one that there's not a lot of pictures.
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You know, you do have to be flexible.
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I don't care what generation you are.
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You're going to have most fun if you're flexible in something like this because there's a whole lot of people to consider.
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Yeah.
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And that you're making memories to last.
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Yes.
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Well, good.
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Well, um, thank you for kind of being um coming inside with us on our family trip.
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You're also able to see some of those on our Instagram as well as our Facebook page or my Facebook page, Kimberly Acres.
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I shared some of our day-to-day activities and pictures and things like that.
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So you're welcome to look us up on Facebook and Instagram walks with mom.
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And if this has been enjoyable for you, please share it with somebody else.
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Maybe you're thinking about taking a family vacation that's multi-generational.
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There are some things to consider.
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And so hopefully, this has kind of sparked an interest for you.
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And we're just so excited that you were able to join us today, and we'll see you on the next walk.
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This is Karen, and I just wanted to say thank you for spending some time with us today.
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Please come back for more laughs, more connections, and more real life moments between these two generations.
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See you on the next walk.