Space Force Guardians: Wardrobe Malfunction?의 전체 녹취록

00:02:12,658 --> 00:02:16,850 silver buttons, gray pants, mandatory purchase for personnel transferring in. 35 00:02:17,426 --> 00:02:19,607 Two hundred to four hundred dollars out of pocket. 36 00:02:19,607 --> 00:02:24,540 And there was a wear test. General Chance Saltzman put on the all black mess dress 37 00:02:24,540 --> 00:02:28,173 himself at the Air Force Weapons School graduation in Las Vegas 38 00:02:28,473 --> 00:02:30,234 on June twenty third, twenty twenty six. 39 00:02:30,234 --> 00:02:36,157 Years of Guardian feedback, an actual process run by the actual service. 40 00:02:36,157 --> 00:02:42,251 And then a picture generated by a machine showed up on a website and made 41 00:02:42,251 --> 00:02:43,492 all of that look optional. 42 00:02:44,254 --> 00:02:47,975 So the question I want to chase is not whether the president understands satire. 43 00:02:47,975 --> 00:02:51,336 He doesn't. We can stipulate that from the get go. 44 00:02:51,336 --> 00:02:56,758 The question is what happens to an institution when its identity gets decided 45 00:02:56,758 --> 00:02:58,979 by a guy who's good at scrolling? 46 00:02:58,979 --> 00:03:03,661 And how do you end up wearing the costume from a movie that was made to make 47 00:03:03,661 --> 00:03:04,661 fun of you? 48 00:03:20,033 --> 00:03:24,342 This is the overlap, Will. ~ I've been waiting to talk to you about this 49 00:03:24,342 --> 00:03:25,342 one all week. 50 00:03:25,705 --> 00:03:27,890 And I've been watching Starship Troopers on repeat, 51 00:03:27,890 --> 00:03:31,448 so which is the strangest sentence I've said in a while, 52 00:03:31,448 --> 00:03:32,841 but I did it for you, buddy. 53 00:03:33,538 --> 00:03:37,359 Right, that's love. So here here's what's in this episode, 54 00:03:37,359 --> 00:03:39,140 right? In September of this year, 55 00:03:39,140 --> 00:03:43,561 the president posted an AI generated Space Force uniform that credits 56 00:03:43,741 --> 00:03:47,882 in its own design notes a movie made specifically to mock people 57 00:03:47,882 --> 00:03:52,243 who like uniforms like that. And we're gonna follow that all the 58 00:03:52,243 --> 00:03:57,155 way down because the paper trail on that black uniform goes somewhere kind 59 00:03:57,155 --> 00:04:01,396 of bleak and somewhere mostly funny all at the same time. 60 00:04:01,896 --> 00:04:05,458 And just to say it up front, the interesting part here isn't the gaff. 61 00:04:05,458 --> 00:04:09,430 Everyone got the gaff. The gaff was in every outlet in about six hours. 62 00:04:09,430 --> 00:04:12,041 So Adam Kinzinger, Jonah Goldberg, 63 00:04:12,041 --> 00:04:14,323 both of them Republicans of various vintages, 64 00:04:14,323 --> 00:04:17,464 both of them dunking. ~ Derek Guy, 65 00:04:17,464 --> 00:04:19,816 the menswear guy wearing in ~ weighing in, 66 00:04:19,816 --> 00:04:22,507 sorry, wearing in. ~ that's the easy layer. 67 00:04:23,007 --> 00:04:24,736 Right. And and the dunk is fun, 68 00:04:24,736 --> 00:04:26,696 but it's not like information. 69 00:04:27,196 --> 00:04:30,567 No, the information is that the black uniform in that movie was not invented 70 00:04:30,567 --> 00:04:32,567 by a custom department in 1997. 71 00:04:32,567 --> 00:04:38,469 It was rather designed in 1932 by two men who we can name here, 72 00:04:38,469 --> 00:04:41,789 Karl Diebitsch, a painter, and Walter Heck, 73 00:04:41,789 --> 00:04:45,710 a graphic designer, who also drew the SS double lightning bolt insignia 74 00:04:45,710 --> 00:04:47,481 in nineteen twenty nine. So, you know, 75 00:04:47,481 --> 00:04:50,492 there's his portfolio. They were doing brand identity. 76 00:04:50,492 --> 00:04:53,812 And the company that manufactured what they drew in Metzingen, 77 00:04:53,812 --> 00:04:56,613 Germany, was one they may have may have heard of. 78 00:04:56,855 --> 00:04:58,500 ~ by the name of Hugo Boss. 79 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,877 The suits Hugo Boss 80 00:05:01,377 --> 00:05:04,286 Which by the war years was running those factories on forced labor. 81 00:05:05,180 --> 00:05:08,791 So by the end of this, you will know the names of the two guys who actually drew 82 00:05:08,791 --> 00:05:14,153 the thing, the president graphic in two moves basically is copying. 83 00:05:14,153 --> 00:05:19,305 You'll know what the real Space Force uniform costs a guardian out of pocket 84 00:05:19,305 --> 00:05:25,398 and who ordered it. You'll know w what the June 2025 tank parade ran in its range, 85 00:05:25,398 --> 00:05:31,540 25 to 45 million, and you'll know that six in ten American adults told AP N 86 00:05:31,540 --> 00:05:34,001 O R C they didn't want it. You'll know 87 00:05:34,277 --> 00:05:38,620 what the Department of War rename costs and that number is the least funny thing 88 00:05:38,620 --> 00:05:39,620 in this episode. 89 00:05:39,702 --> 00:05:42,625 And you'll know one thing I haven't seen anybody say out loud in the coverage, 90 00:05:42,625 --> 00:05:46,409 which is that this post didn't just misread the purpose or the intent of the movie, 91 00:05:46,409 --> 00:05:48,591 it stepped on a live, in progress, 92 00:05:48,591 --> 00:05:52,975 wear tested uniform program that the Space Force's own chief was walking around 93 00:05:52,975 --> 00:05:54,577 Las Vegas in three months earlier. 94 00:05:54,577 --> 00:05:57,279 That's a bureaucracy that did its homework here. 95 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:58,721 Nobody's talking about them. 96 00:05:59,461 --> 00:06:00,672 Well nobody ever talks about them. 97 00:06:00,672 --> 00:06:02,463 So yeah, let's talk about them. 98 00:06:02,463 --> 00:06:07,315 So, of course, as as always, we start out with the machinery first because there 99 00:06:07,315 --> 00:06:12,008 are two machines running in parallel here that are not talking to each other. 100 00:06:12,008 --> 00:06:16,510 Machine one is the Space Force Uniform Program. 101 00:06:16,510 --> 00:06:18,561 It's pretty boring, and and boring is the point, 102 00:06:18,561

--> 00:06:23,034 right? You stand up a new entire branch of the military in 2019, 103 00:06:23,034 --> 00:06:26,896 and one of the first really hard problems is what people wear. 104 00:06:26,896 --> 00:06:27,896 Because 105 00:06:27,692 --> 00:06:32,675 A uniform is the entire visual argument for why your service exists. 106 00:06:32,675 --> 00:06:37,547 So you run wear tests, you get feedback from the people who have to like live 107 00:06:37,547 --> 00:06:40,569 the thing in 200 days a year, right? 108 00:06:40,569 --> 00:06:44,571 So you you iterate, and on January thirteenth through 15th, 109 00:06:44,571 --> 00:06:48,223 2026, the Space Force actually issues dress guidance, 110 00:06:48,223 --> 00:06:51,665 which is the SPFI 36-2903, 111 00:06:51,665 --> 00:06:54,967 which formalizes the actual service dress uniform. 112 00:06:54,967 --> 00:06:56,518 Dark blue jacket, silver buttons, 113 00:06:56,518 --> 00:06:57,518 gray pants. 114 00:06:57,688 --> 00:06:59,940 And in case you've never had any dealings with the military, 115 00:06:59,940 --> 00:07:02,292 ~ these are mandatory purchases. 116 00:07:02,292 --> 00:07:04,094 It's not optional for you to dress like everyone else. 117 00:07:04,094 --> 00:07:05,515 It's called a uniform for a reason. 118 00:07:05,515 --> 00:07:09,699 and anybody who transferred into that service or started out in the space force 119 00:07:09,700 --> 00:07:13,283 was estimated to pay a two hundred to four hundred dollar cost for that uniform. 120 00:07:14,173 --> 00:07:15,321 And that is out of pocket. 121 00:07:15,821 --> 00:07:20,615 And if you'll you'll ~ take a look at the pay grades for modern soldiers, 122 00:07:20,615 --> 00:07:23,477 you'll know why we brought up why we emphasize the fact that that's out of pocket. 123 00:07:23,477 --> 00:07:25,419 But that's normal for the military. 124 00:07:23,681 --> 00:07:30,134 Don't you mean guardians? Guardi Space Force Guardians. 125 00:07:25,419 --> 00:07:28,181 Guardians, yeah. So pardon me. 126 00:07:28,181 --> 00:07:31,434 our department of war. I didn't 127 00:07:31,434 --> 00:07:33,545 know if to if guardians worked for the department of war, 128 00:07:33,545 --> 00:07:35,617 you know, that sounds like more of a department of defense kind of move, 129 00:07:35,617 --> 00:07:37,549 but anyway. ~ 130 00:07:36,096 --> 00:07:37,096 We'll find out. 131 00:07:37,909 --> 00:07:40,381 yeah. so but that's normal for the military, 132 00:07:40,381 --> 00:07:43,914 right? And also worth remembering later because we're gonna talk about a two billion 133 00:07:44,902 --> 00:07:45,902 Mr. Joshua? 134 00:07:46,133 --> 00:07:47,133 Ba ba ba billion. 135 00:07:47,579 --> 00:07:50,059 That's right. Sign replacement project in a minute. 136 00:07:50,059 --> 00:07:52,088 And I want those two numbers in the same room. 137 00:07:52,588 --> 00:07:55,219 Yeah, so the rollout started in November of twenty twenty-five. 138 00:07:55,219 --> 00:07:57,410 First two recruiters, training instructors, 139 00:07:57,410 --> 00:08:00,012 and senior leaders and ROTC graduates. 140 00:08:00,012 --> 00:08:02,623 Optional for most guardians for now, 141 00:08:02,623 --> 00:08:04,454 there's a a senior master sergeant, 142 00:08:04,454 --> 00:08:10,027 Brandy Gonzalez, who is actually photographed modeling it for the announcement. 143 00:08:10,027 --> 00:08:11,938 And that's the process. It's real people, 144 00:08:11,938 --> 00:08:13,889 real fittings, real feedback loop, 145 00:08:13,889 --> 00:08:15,980 real document with a real number on it. 146 00:08:15,980 --> 00:08:18,151 In the same way that that the Army, 147 00:08:18,151 --> 00:08:20,612 the Marines, you know, the the Air Force, 148 00:08:20,612 --> 00:08:21,823 the Navy have done. 149 00:08:22,411 --> 00:08:25,246 Generation after generation with the rollout of new uniforms. 150 00:08:25,746 --> 00:08:28,247 And fast forward to June twenty-three of this year, 151 00:08:28,247 --> 00:08:31,970 General Chance Salzman, Chief of Space Operations, 152 00:08:31,970 --> 00:08:33,301 as we kind of touched on a little bit, 153 00:08:33,301 --> 00:08:35,332 wears the very first wear test, 154 00:08:35,332 --> 00:08:40,635 all black mess dress at the Air Force Weapons School graduation in Las Vegas. 155 00:08:40,635 --> 00:08:42,496 Mess dress means the formal 156 00:08:41,292 --> 00:08:42,458 Say that three times fast. 157 00:08:42,496 --> 00:08:45,468 one, right? Yeah. I was trying to get it out once. 158 00:08:45,468 --> 00:08:46,468 I'm not even 159 00:08:45,968 --> 00:08:46,968 going for 160 00:08:45,974 --> 00:08:46,974 Ha ha. 161 00:08:46,288 --> 00:08:49,103 three. ~ but mess dress, in case you again, 162 00:08:49,103 --> 00:08:50,641 in case you don't know, is the formal dress, 163 00:08:50,641 --> 00:08:52,462 like it's the black tie equivalent. 164 00:08:53,054 --> 00:08:54,647 The name mess may throw you off a little bit there, 165 00:08:54,647 --> 00:09:00,730 but it's it's dress uniform. So the service is at that very moment actively testing 166 00:09:00,730 --> 00:09:04,368 a black formal uniform through its own channels with its own people on the record. 167 00:09:04,868 --> 00:09:09,573 Which is important because it means that the fact that it was black really wasn't 168 00:09:09,573 --> 00:09:10,837 the whole scandal of this thing. 169 00:09:11,337 --> 00:09:14,059 Right. This is not about the the shock troopers or whatever, 170 00:09:14,059 --> 00:09:16,430 you know, is showing up in black and looking scary. 171 00:09:16,430 --> 00:09:20,033 ~ it's that black mass dress is not unusual. 172 00:09:20,033 --> 00:09:23,135 Roughly half of the world's militaries wear black in the evening. 173 00:09:23,135 --> 00:09:25,516 The Navy's dinner dress is functionally black. 174 00:09:25,516 --> 00:09:26,917 I mean most people not most people, 175 00:09:26,917 --> 00:09:30,920 but many people can't tell the difference between Navy the US Navy dressed uniform, 176 00:09:30,920 -->

00:09:33,842 color navy and black. But this is not 177 00:09:32,831 --> 00:09:33,831 If you're colorblind. 178 00:09:33,842 --> 00:09:37,304 a case of someone it right, ~ or to varying degrees. 179 00:09:37,304 --> 00:09:40,636 But this is not a case of someone inventing a a sinister color. 180 00:09:40,946 --> 00:09:41,946 That's more than that. 181 00:09:42,167 --> 00:09:45,510 Yeah, so the the the machine one is is running fine. 182 00:09:45,510 --> 00:09:48,333 It's slow, it's expensive, it's a little dorky, 183 00:09:48,333 --> 00:09:52,508 but it's functional, right? Like it's the government doing the thing government 184 00:09:52,948 --> 00:09:57,533 is supposed to be doing, which is grinding through a design problem with committees 185 00:09:57,533 --> 00:10:00,536 and a waterfall process until you get something that fits. 186 00:10:00,536 --> 00:10:03,769 Machine two is just a guy with a phone. 187 00:10:04,269 --> 00:10:05,269 Nowhere test here. 188 00:10:06,202 --> 00:10:09,293 No. no fitting, no guardian feedback, 189 00:10:09,293 --> 00:10:14,835 no document number. Machine two generates an image with AI and posts it, 190 00:10:14,835 --> 00:10:20,717 and the image depicts a black and gray design that this service had not announced. 191 00:10:20,717 --> 00:10:23,338 It does not have it in its program, 192 00:10:23,338 --> 00:10:26,279 in the pipeline, and as far as anybody can tell, 193 00:10:26,279 --> 00:10:29,840 nobody's ever seen it before that morning in a true social post. 194 00:10:30,340 --> 00:10:33,251 Well, to be fair, you know, they have if they've seen Starship 195 00:10:32,189 --> 00:10:33,189 To be fair. 196 00:10:33,251 --> 00:10:35,772 Troopers if they've seen Starship Troopers, 197 00:10:35,772 --> 00:10:37,103 they've seen the uniform roughly. 198 00:10:37,103 --> 00:10:40,122 ~ but you know, and also to be fair, 199 00:10:40,122 --> 00:10:44,236 it does say incorporates the functionality of the Starship Troopers uniform, 200 00:10:44,236 --> 00:10:47,147 which is hilarious to me because I never saw anything in that movie about 201 00:10:47,668 --> 00:10:51,744 functionality, right? When Patrick Neopatrick Harris shows up in the black uniform, 202 00:10:51,744 --> 00:10:53,350 nobody says, Wow, that's really functional. 203 00:10:53,350 --> 00:10:56,251 I should get me one of those. but anyway. 204 00:10:54,716 --> 00:10:56,899 We talk about those details a little later actually. 205 00:10:57,592 --> 00:10:58,592 Yeah. 206 00:10:58,138 --> 00:11:00,801 So let's be pedantic about why this matters institutionally, 207 00:11:00,801 --> 00:11:04,275 because this is the part that gets lost when the story becomes a joke about a movie. 208 00:11:04,275 --> 00:11:07,979 there's a chain of authority for what an American service member wears, 209 00:11:07,979 --> 00:11:10,421 right? It runs through the service chief, 210 00:11:10,421 --> 00:11:12,364 through the dress and appearance boards, 211 00:11:12,364 --> 00:11:14,325

through the guidance documents. 212 00:11:14,325 --> 00:11:18,030 Saltzman owns all of that. It's one of the few genuine prerogatives 213 00:11:18,030 --> 00:11:19,030 a service chief has. 214 00:11:19,411 --> 00:11:22,057 And it was overruled by a retweet, 215 00:11:22,057 --> 00:11:24,112 like a an executive tweet, if you will. 216 00:11:24,612 --> 00:11:26,856 Yes, and nobody in the chain can say anything about it because 217 00:11:26,856 --> 00:11:29,460 the person who ordered it happens to be the commander in chief. 218 00:11:29,460 --> 00:11:33,066 So you get this silence where the institution just sort of stands there like, 219 00:11:33,066 --> 00:11:34,168 okay, what do I do now? 220 00:11:34,668 --> 00:11:37,650 So let's talk about this image itself, 221 00:11:37,650 --> 00:11:42,674 because the design inspiration label is doing something specific here. 222 00:11:42,674 --> 00:11:47,438 That's not the language of a military procurement document, 223 00:11:47,438 --> 00:11:49,620 right? That's the language of a pitch deck. 224 00:11:49,620 --> 00:11:53,563 It's a PowerPoint slide, somebody made like a mood board. 225 00:11:54,063 --> 00:11:55,514 Board for National Armed Service. 226 00:11:56,014 --> 00:11:59,798 The thing about a mood board though is that it tells you what the maker thought 227 00:11:59,798 --> 00:12:02,500 was cool. That's like the whole purpose. 228 00:12:02,500 --> 00:12:08,346 So when a mood board says the discipline and functionality of the star trip stip 229 00:12:08,346 --> 00:12:13,991 starship trooper uniform, we now know something true about the person 230 00:12:13,991 --> 00:12:17,955 who created it. They watched that movie and the key takeaway 231 00:12:17,955 --> 00:12:20,117 was discipline and functionality. 232 00:12:20,617 --> 00:12:23,700 Which is, I want to note, not what that uniform does in the film. 233 00:12:23,700 --> 00:12:26,642 As we talked about, the uniform of the film is not functional. 234 00:12:26,642 --> 00:12:29,805 Nobody in Starship Troopers is protected by what they're wearing. 235 00:12:29,805 --> 00:12:35,199 It's a running visual gag. They send teenagers in the movie against giant insects 236 00:12:35,199 --> 00:12:37,291 in what amounts to a safety vest and a helmet, 237 00:12:37,291 --> 00:12:39,733 and the bugs go through them like tissue paper. 238 00:12:39,733 --> 00:12:43,076 Bearhoven is making fun of you for thinking the outfit is armored. 239 00:12:43,894 --> 00:12:46,758 And the outfit is not armor. It's recruitment, 240 00:12:46,758 --> 00:12:48,711 right? Like the their their logo, 241 00:12:48,711 --> 00:12:52,176 their motto in this is service guarantees citizenship. 242 00:12:52,176 --> 00:12:55,921 That is the propaganda that they're spewing out on television and newspapers, 243 00:12:55,921 --> 00:13:00,768 right? It looks badass two thousand on a recruitment poster. 244 00:13:01,268 --> 00:13:03,819 Correct. And the actual armor, 245 00:13:03,819 --> 00:13:05,900 when you go back to the Source novel here, 246 00:13:05,900 --> 00:13:08,902 which is a Heinlein novel from nineteen fifty nine, 247 00:13:08,902 --> 00:13:14,055 their actual armor in the the novel is a exoskeleton suit like a big mech, 248 00:13:14,055 --> 00:13:17,385 like from Alien or something. mobile infantry. 249 00:13:15,959 --> 00:13:16,959 Like actually cool. 250 00:13:17,786 --> 00:13:20,328 Yeah, actually cool. ~ although I didn't have to visualize this, 251 00:13:20,328 --> 00:13:22,249 so that helps a little bit when you're in nineteen fifty nine. 252 00:13:22,249 --> 00:13:25,164 But also being that much closer to World War Two, 253 00:13:25,164 --> 00:13:27,611 I think everybody knew what his inspiration would be drawing from if 254 00:13:27,611 --> 00:13:30,643 he had drawn those. Anyway. 255 00:13:30,883 --> 00:13:35,256 ~ Verhoeven deliberately so well in addition to the exoskeleton suits they've 256 00:13:35,256 --> 00:13:37,618 got mobile infantry, jump jets, 257 00:13:37,618 --> 00:13:41,741 all the latest tech. Verhoeven deliberately took the cool suits out. 258 00:13:41,741 --> 00:13:45,044 he read the book and decided the politics were ruled by military elite, 259 00:13:45,044 --> 00:13:48,957 dressed up as adventure, and made a movie where the soldiers wear stylish 260 00:13:48,957 --> 00:13:51,909 but non functional play clothes and then get shredded on the battlefield. 261 00:13:52,409 --> 00:13:57,934 So the design inspiration credit is citing the least functional uniform 262 00:13:57,934 --> 00:14:01,097 in science fiction for its actual functionality. 263 00:14:02,068 --> 00:14:03,495 Deliberately non functional, yes. 264 00:14:04,099 --> 00:14:05,734 So that's that's pretty damn funny. 265 00:14:05,734 --> 00:14:07,250 I and I wanna give that its moment. 266 00:14:07,750 --> 00:14:08,750 Take a moment. 267 00:14:10,384 --> 00:14:13,146 So so here's here's the the the mechanism question, 268 00:14:13,146 --> 00:14:17,909 right? Does this image actually become a uniform? 269 00:14:17,909 --> 00:14:21,952 Because there's a version of it where it's a a Tuesday, 270 00:14:21,952 --> 00:14:25,355 right? It's content and it evaporates by Friday. 271 00:14:25,355 --> 00:14:28,447 The Gish Gallop, like last week's episode about flooding the field 272 00:14:28,447 --> 00:14:30,438 and and filling it with bullshit. 273 00:14:30,438 --> 00:14:35,212 There's a version where somebody at the Pentagon reads it as an executive order, 274 00:14:35,212 --> 00:14:36,212 though. 275 00:14:35,862 --> 00:14:38,402 And based on our last eighteen months of experience, 276 00:14:38,402 --> 00:14:39,402 which version would you bet on? 277 00:14:40,128 --> 00:14:43,740 So that's the thing. Look at the pattern of how decision has moved 278 00:14:43,740 --> 00:14:46,122 in this administration. June 14th, 279 00:14:46,122 --> 00:14:51,705 2025, a military parade in Washington for the Army's 250th anniversary, 280 00:14:51,705 --> 00:14:55,548

which just so happens to fall on the president's 79th birthday. 281 00:14:55,548 --> 00:14:58,570 Right? Roughly 6,600 soldiers, 282 00:14:58,570 --> 00:15:03,483 24 M1 Abrams tanks rolling down Constitution Avenue. 283 00:15:03,983 --> 00:15:07,130 And six and ten adults in the AP North Pole, 284 00:15:07,130 --> 00:15:08,357 ~ opposing it. 285 00:15:09,344 --> 00:15:13,897 Right. So which for you math nerds is a sixty percent disapproval rating. 286 00:15:13,897 --> 00:15:19,401 And it happened anyway. And it cost somewhere somewhere between twenty five 287 00:15:19,441 --> 00:15:21,843 and forty five million dollars, 288 00:15:21,843 --> 00:15:26,808 which I think is a purposeful range so wide that it actually tells 289 00:15:26,808 --> 00:15:30,551 you nobody was counting the beans in the bean counter area. 290 00:15:31,051 --> 00:15:33,454 Are there beam counters left in the administration? 291 00:15:33,454 --> 00:15:34,891 ~ 292 00:15:34,228 --> 00:15:35,233 they're counting something. 293 00:15:35,733 --> 00:15:37,755 Well the tanks needed metal plates on the road, 294 00:15:37,755 --> 00:15:41,660 by the way, because Abram's tanks are not meant to drive on on asphalt. 295 00:15:41,660 --> 00:15:44,343 Surprise, surprise. ~ and they'll tear it up. 296 00:15:44,343 --> 00:15:46,616 So I'm sure that's a real line item somewhere. 297 00:15:47,078 --> 00:15:49,931 There's still a line item because apparently it had to 298 00:15:49,931 --> 00:15:53,204 be repaired afterwards because of how much it had been torn up. 299 00:15:53,204 --> 00:15:56,456 So then, fast forward a little to september fifth, 300 00:15:56,456 --> 00:16:00,831 twenty twenty five, executive order renaming the Department of Defense 301 00:16:00,831 --> 00:16:06,967 to the Department of War. And Pentagon workers started pulling the sign lettering 302 00:16:06,967 --> 00:16:09,019 on the exact same day. 303 00:16:09,519 --> 00:16:11,039 Somebody probably advised them ahead of time, 304 00:16:11,039 --> 00:16:12,810 I'm imagining. They didn't just show up to work and say, 305 00:16:12,810 --> 00:16:15,221 I think I'll take down the defense part of the Department of Defense. 306 00:16:15,221 --> 00:16:17,892 Sign. But that tells you the sequencing, 307 00:16:17,892 --> 00:16:20,002 right? The order is signed and the maintenance crew is on a ladder with 308 00:16:20,002 --> 00:16:23,103 a pry bar before anybody's done any costing analysis on it. 309 00:16:23,103 --> 00:16:24,784 So whatever whatever the 310 00:16:24,027 --> 00:16:25,027 And the cost 311 00:16:24,784 --> 00:16:27,625 Office of Congressional Budget or Congressional Budget Office does. 312 00:16:27,625 --> 00:16:31,766 No, never mind. Go ahead. Yeah. 313 00:16:29,053 --> 00:16:30,964 They don't CBO doesn't do anything anymore. 314 00:16:30,964 --> 00:16:32,314 It 315 00:16:32,314 --> 00:16:35,365 just it signs the checks. The cost estimates 316 00:16:34,776 --> 00:16:35,776 Right. 317 00:16:35,705 --> 00:16:38,586 actually for that that whole name change, 318 00:16:38,586 --> 00:16:44,048 by the way, are have run from about ten million to two bi billion, 319 00:16:44,048 --> 00:16:46,248 depending on whether you're reading 320 00:16:45,442 --> 00:16:46,442 Talk about a range. 321 00:16:46,909 --> 00:16:51,110 the the Congressional Budget Office or you know the National Broadcasting Service. 322 00:16:51,610 --> 00:16:52,861 That is not an estimate range. 323 00:16:52,861 --> 00:16:57,384 That is a 200 200x spread. That is two different organizations answering 324 00:16:57,384 --> 00:16:59,836 two different questions and nobody in the middle reconciling them. 325 00:16:59,836 --> 00:17:03,549 Because the $10 million is signage and letterhead and the two billion 326 00:17:03,549 --> 00:17:06,421 is every contract, every legal instrument, 327 00:17:06,421 --> 00:17:08,703 every treaty reference, every uniform patch, 328 00:17:08,703 --> 00:17:12,126 every email domain, every piece of software with a hard-coded department name 329 00:17:12,126 --> 00:17:16,459 on it across an organization with roughly three million people attached to it. 330 00:17:17,187 --> 00:17:19,008 And that's again the mechanism. 331 00:17:19,008 --> 00:17:21,628 That's the whole flabby, coughing, 332 00:17:21,628 --> 00:17:25,469 smog generating engine in one gesture. 333 00:17:25,469 --> 00:17:28,410 A decision gets made as an aesthetic, 334 00:17:28,410 --> 00:17:33,642 announced like a spectacle, and then the institution just eats the cost 335 00:17:33,642 --> 00:17:36,212 of making that brand change real. 336 00:17:36,212 --> 00:17:40,794 Nobody prices it out first, because putting a price tag on it would kind 337 00:17:40,794 --> 00:17:41,794 of spoil the moment. 338 00:17:42,274 --> 00:17:46,085 And the Space Force uniform graphic is then the same motion at a smaller scale. 339 00:17:46,085 --> 00:17:49,107 Someone made an image. If it becomes policy, 340 00:17:49,107 --> 00:17:51,647 the Space Force absorbs a redesign it didn't ask for, 341 00:17:51,647 --> 00:17:53,708 on top of the one it just finished. 342 00:17:53,708 --> 00:17:57,330 If it doesn't become policy, then the president of the US publicly overwrote 343 00:17:57,330 --> 00:17:59,150 his own service chief for content, 344 00:17:59,150 --> 00:18:01,321 and everyone agrees to pretend that it didn't happen. 345 00:18:01,821 --> 00:18:04,986 Now both possible outcomes actually cost us. 346 00:18:04,986 --> 00:18:10,376 One costs money and one costs the idea that the chain 347 00:18:10,376 --> 00:18:13,571 of command actually means anything. 348 00:18:14,071 --> 00:18:15,893 So who's holding the bag on this one? 349 00:18:15,893 --> 00:18:18,174 Let's do the people. And I want to start with the guy who has 350 00:18:18,174 --> 00:18:19,887 the strangest position in the whole story, 351 00:18:19,887 --> 00:18:21,088 which is Paul Verhoven. 352 00:18:21,933 --> 00:18:24,236 The most vindicated man in Hollywood right now.

353 00:18:24,736 --> 00:18:27,348 The most vindicated and possibly the least happy about it. 354 00:18:27,348 --> 00:18:30,631 Here's his situation. 1943, 355 00:18:30,631 --> 00:18:33,593 he's five years old. His family moves to The Hague, 356 00:18:33,593 --> 00:18:35,174 which is under Nazi occupation. 357 00:18:35,174 --> 00:18:39,608 He has said directly that this is the biographical source of the fascist imagery 358 00:18:39,608 --> 00:18:41,739 in his films. Not an influence. 359 00:18:41,739 --> 00:18:46,043 The source. He grew up watching German soldiers in the street, 360 00:18:46,043 --> 00:18:49,415 and then he became a filmmaker whose recurring subject is how appealing that looks 361 00:18:49,415 --> 00:18:50,415 from the outside. 362 00:18:50,556 --> 00:18:53,402 And he creates starship troopers as a trap. 363 00:18:53,902 --> 00:18:55,392 He builds it as a trap, technically, 364 00:18:55,392 --> 00:18:59,023 sure. He casts it like a Lenny Raf Riefenstahl film. 365 00:18:59,023 --> 00:19:01,854 Beautiful blonde people, symmetrical, 366 00:19:01,854 --> 00:19:04,285 glowing, Casper Van Deen at his peak. 367 00:19:04,285 --> 00:19:07,426 Denise Richards, Dina Meyer, 368 00:19:07,426 --> 00:19:11,187 Patrick Muldoon. He shoots the propaganda news reels in a Riefenstahl grammar. 369 00:19:12,298 --> 00:19:15,876 Puts Nil Patrick Harris in a coat so close to an SS officer's uniform that 370 00:19:15,876 --> 00:19:17,500 the crew starts calling him Doogie Himmler. 371 00:19:18,442 --> 00:19:21,184 On set. You can actually look that up on IMDb. 372 00:19:19,510 --> 00:19:20,763 Hm. Monset. 373 00:19:21,184 --> 00:19:23,956 Yeah. The casting crew, they got the joke. 374 00:19:24,456 --> 00:19:26,327 The critics unfortunately did not. 375 00:19:26,327 --> 00:19:28,799 So in 1997, the film comes out, 376 00:19:28,799 --> 00:19:32,341 and Janet Maslin in the New York Times and Roger Ebert both essentially read 377 00:19:32,341 --> 00:19:33,712 it as the thing it was mocking. 378 00:19:33,712 --> 00:19:37,074 Ebert, who I I love or respect the guy as a critic, 379 00:19:37,074 --> 00:19:39,755 was as good a reader of film as any America's produced, 380 00:19:39,755 --> 00:19:42,137 took it as an empty brutal spectacle. 381 00:19:42,137 --> 00:19:44,198 And Verhoeven's line about the whole thing, 382 00:19:44,198 --> 00:19:46,930 which is the most devastating six words in this episode, 383 00:19:46,930 --> 00:19:49,231 is no one saw it at the time. 384 00:19:49,731 --> 00:19:54,617 And the truth is it it underperformed with adult audiences and it cleaned 385 00:19:54,898 --> 00:19:58,622 up with teenage boys, becoming somewhat of a cult classic. 386 00:19:59,122 --> 00:20:02,527 I can't imagine why, but what which is the joke inside the joke? 387 00:20:02,527 --> 00:20:07,013 The satire of military recruitment propaganda became successful military recruitment 388 00:20:07,013 --> 00:20:09,197 recruitment propaganda for fifteen year olds. 389 00:20:09,197 --> 00:20:12,082 It played straight to the exact demographic it was warning about. 390 00:20:12,954 --> 00:20:15,435 So I actually I I saw this movie when I was thirteen, 391 00:20:15,435 --> 00:20:18,807 right? In nineteen ninety-seven I was thirteen years old and I thought 392 00:20:18,807 --> 00:20:20,466 the uniforms were cool. I did. 393 00:20:20,466 --> 00:20:23,320 ~ I I mean, I was not doing ~ like a 394 00:20:22,497 --> 00:20:23,497 The whole movie was cool. 395 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,712 it was. I was not doing like a critical reading of Riefenstahl, 396 00:20:27,712 --> 00:20:31,624 right? I was watching Neil Patrick Harris look sharp and thinking, 397 00:20:31,624 --> 00:20:34,766 damn. But even then I thought it was funny. 398 00:20:35,266 --> 00:20:36,266 Everyone did. 399 00:20:36,625 --> 00:20:39,969 Everyone who got it. And that's Verhoven's point, 400 00:20:39,969 --> 00:20:42,702 right? And it took me a long time to realize this as an adult. 401 00:20:42,702 --> 00:20:47,277 So I want to hold a little grace for the 13-year-olds like me who missed it, 402 00:20:47,277 --> 00:20:49,439 like little baby Gerbil, Stephen Miller, 403 00:20:49,439 --> 00:20:52,503 or the 51-year-old like Donald Trump, 404 00:20:52,503 --> 00:20:56,477 who even then didn't have enough hair to catch the joke going right over 405 00:20:56,477 --> 00:20:57,477 the top of his head. 406 00:20:57,708 --> 00:21:00,057 So I wanna hold zero grace, however, 407 00:21:00,057 --> 00:21:03,791 for the White House communications office in twenty twenty six. 408 00:21:04,291 --> 00:21:06,483 Boy, if there was ever a more a worse misnomer. 409 00:21:06,483 --> 00:21:08,985 Because the difference is in the label. 410 00:21:08,985 --> 00:21:13,238 A teenager thinks that looking that the code looks cool is the mechanism working 411 00:21:13,238 --> 00:21:15,890 as designed. The mechanism is supposed to catch you. 412 00:21:15,890 --> 00:21:18,903 Writing design inspiration on a slide and sending it out from the office 413 00:21:18,903 --> 00:21:20,494 of the president is not getting caught. 414 00:21:20,494 --> 00:21:24,147 That's endorsing it in writing after twenty-nine years of people explaining 415 00:21:24,147 --> 00:21:25,147 the joke. 416 00:21:24,957 --> 00:21:28,850 Gross. Nineteen ninety seven was almost thirty years ago. 417 00:21:28,850 --> 00:21:30,491 Blah. Twenty 418 00:21:30,092 --> 00:21:31,092 Yeah. 419 00:21:30,491 --> 00:21:32,272 nine years of of think pieces. 420 00:21:32,272 --> 00:21:34,754 There is a cottage industry. 421 00:21:35,254 --> 00:21:38,226 There are dissertations. You can get a degree in this now. 422 00:21:38,226 --> 00:21:41,850 And so Verhoeven's outcome in september twenty twenty six is that 423 00:21:41,850 --> 00:21:46,794 a sitting American president promoted a uniform whose own design notes, 424 00:21:46,794 --> 00:21:50,937 sorry, his own design notes cite the anti fascist parody costume he built 425

00:21:50,937 --> 00:21:53,379 to warn people. That's the outcome. 426 00:21:53,379 --> 00:21:56,642 He set a trap twenty nine years ago and the president of the US walked into 427 00:21:56,642 --> 00:21:57,642 it holding a mood board. 428 00:21:58,043 --> 00:22:02,016 Okay, so who else's back is this actually falling on? 429 00:22:02,016 --> 00:22:05,430 Because Verhoeven is fine. Verhoven's right, 430 00:22:05,430 --> 00:22:08,072 he's got like a a cool story to tell at parties now. 431 00:22:08,072 --> 00:22:11,405 But who actually pays for this gap? 432 00:22:11,905 --> 00:22:14,827 Well, it seems like Chance Saltzman pays pretty directly. 433 00:22:14,827 --> 00:22:16,488 Like this is where it gets less funny. 434 00:22:16,488 --> 00:22:18,930 Saltzman is chief of space operations. 435 00:22:18,930 --> 00:22:22,813 He oversaw a multi year uniform program built on guardian wear test feedback, 436 00:22:22,813 --> 00:22:24,904 which means this is what the people who are actually going to be wearing 437 00:22:24,904 --> 00:22:28,397 the uniform say about it. it's the correct way to do it, 438 00:22:28,397 --> 00:22:31,579 right? He personally wore the black mess dress in june twenty twenty 439 00:22:31,579 --> 00:22:35,102 six at graduation in public as part of formal wear testing. 440 00:22:35,102 --> 00:22:38,054 He did his job the way his job is designed to be done. 441 00:22:38,554 --> 00:22:41,048 Right. And then three months later, 442 00:22:41,048 --> 00:22:45,026 an AI slot picture makes the whole thing just look like a suggestion. 443 00:22:45,526 --> 00:22:47,447 And Saltzman can't say anything. 444 00:22:47,447 --> 00:22:52,090 That's the cost. Not money. He can't hold a press conference and 445 00:22:52,090 --> 00:22:53,669 say the president has no role in this. 446 00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:56,912 He can't correct the record because the record belongs to his boss. 447 00:22:56,912 --> 00:23:00,334 So the cost to Saltzman is the difference between having authority 448 00:23:00,334 --> 00:23:01,855 and having the appearance of authority, 449 00:23:01,855 --> 00:23:04,176 and that is a cost paid in silence. 450 00:23:04,176 --> 00:23:05,917 Which is why nobody's covering it. 451 00:23:05,917 --> 00:23:07,118 Except us. 452 00:23:06,843 --> 00:23:07,843 There's 453 00:23:07,494 --> 00:23:10,356 right, today. There's there's 454 00:23:09,754 --> 00:23:10,754 Mm-hmm. 455 00:23:10,356 --> 00:23:13,308 someone else here too, so David Madsen, 456 00:23:13,308 --> 00:23:17,911 apparently a design lead connected to the mess dress work. 457 00:23:18,411 --> 00:23:22,173 Right, and that's a person whose actual craft is being compared unfavorably 458 00:23:22,173 --> 00:23:26,816 and in public to an image an LLM made in four seconds for three gallons of water. 459 00:23:26,816 --> 00:23:30,198 If you've ever done skilled work and had it overruled by somebody something 460 00:23:30,198 --> 00:23:33,080 a boss saw and liked, you know that specific feeling. 461 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,372 Multiply it by the entire US military and put it on the news. 462 00:23:36,872 --> 00:23:39,847 Then there's also Master Sergeant Brandy Gonzalez, 463 00:23:39,847 --> 00:23:44,905 who stood there and modeled the real one in photographs in a magazine. 464 00:23:44,905 --> 00:23:45,905 Like 465 00:23:46,523 --> 00:23:47,523 For the 466 00:23:46,773 --> 00:23:51,298 November 2025 rollout. Caution here because I don't know what she thinks about 467 00:23:51,298 --> 00:23:53,770 any of this, and the article doesn't cover a sourced quote. 468 00:23:53,770 --> 00:23:57,514 What I can say is that she's the human face of the uniform that exists, 469 00:23:57,514 --> 00:24:00,176 and there's now a competing uniform that doesn't exist, 470 00:24:00,176 --> 00:24:01,998 promoted from a higher altitude, 471 00:24:01,998 --> 00:24:03,019 which she has nothing to do with. 472 00:24:03,519 --> 00:24:06,191 And modeled by a man on the mood board. 473 00:24:06,191 --> 00:24:07,612 And then 474 00:24:07,510 --> 00:24:08,510 Course. 475 00:24:07,969 --> 00:24:10,714 the actual Space Force Guardians, 476 00:24:10,714 --> 00:24:16,387 the rank and file. Who are the actual ones with a mandatory purchase requirement 477 00:24:16,387 --> 00:24:19,689 of two hundred to four hundred dollars if they're transferring into 478 00:24:19,689 --> 00:24:22,061 the Space Force from another armed service? 479 00:24:22,561 --> 00:24:24,911 Right, and that's where the line in the sand is drawn for the money. 480 00:24:24,911 --> 00:24:27,933 I mean the people at the bottom of this pay in cash for their clothes. 481 00:24:27,933 --> 00:24:30,044 That's how it works. That's how it's always worked. 482 00:24:30,044 --> 00:24:32,395 There's a uniform allowance and it doesn't always cover it and 483 00:24:32,395 --> 00:24:36,437 you eat the difference. So when the aesthetic changes from the top on a whim with 484 00:24:36,437 --> 00:24:39,978 no process, the question every enlisted person in America immediately asks 485 00:24:39,978 --> 00:24:41,219 is Am I buying this twice? 486 00:24:41,719 --> 00:24:43,318 Do I own two coats now? 487 00:24:44,604 --> 00:24:47,206 Well to date nobody has answered that because there's nothing to answer. 488 00:24:47,206 --> 00:24:50,811 There's no program. There's an AI slot post. 489 00:24:51,311 --> 00:24:54,964 So circling back though, ~ we brought up Hugo Boss in the intro, 490 00:24:54,964 --> 00:24:56,971 so we should probably finish that part of it out. 491 00:24:57,942 --> 00:24:58,942 Go for it. 492 00:24:59,180 --> 00:25:02,442 1929, Walter Heck, graphic designer. 493 00:25:02,442 --> 00:25:06,784 He draws the SS double ~ sea Gruna, 494 00:25:06,784 --> 00:25:08,665 the two lightning boats we talked about earlier. 495 00:25:08,665 --> 00:25:11,527 I'm sure you've seen it tattooed on Pete Heggseth's body somewhere. 496 00:25:11,527 --> 00:25:15,709 1932, Heck and Carl Diebitsch. 497 00:25:15,709 -->

00:25:19,091 Diebitsch, that's the best way I can spell it. 498 00:25:19,091 --> 00:25:22,372 D-I-E-B-I-T-S-C-H. 499 00:25:22,372 --> 00:25:28,616 He's a painter, right? ~ he becomes an SS Oba Fjora co-design. 500 00:25:29,523 --> 00:25:33,426 And i the all-black SS uniform is co-designed by him. 501 00:25:33,426 --> 00:25:37,240 So two professional clothing designers, 502 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,243 not like the kind that Tim Gunn would be like designers, 503 00:25:40,243 --> 00:25:45,417 designers, doing a branding exercise for the actual Nazis. 504 00:25:45,417 --> 00:25:50,271 And the manufacturing goes to Hugo Boss's company in Metzingen, 505 00:25:50,271 --> 00:25:55,216 which is also produced SA uniforms and Hitler youth uniforms and 506 00:25:55,642 --> 00:25:59,733 During the war ran both of those factories essentially on slave labor. 507 00:26:00,233 --> 00:26:01,704 There's a portfolio nobody wants. 508 00:26:01,704 --> 00:26:05,808 So the actual human cost at the bottom of this aesthetic lineage, 509 00:26:05,808 --> 00:26:09,711 the very first time, was people conscripted into sewing rooms to produce 510 00:26:09,711 --> 00:26:12,974 the clothes that made the men who conscrip conscripted them to look magnificent, 511 00:26:12,974 --> 00:26:17,618 right? So you're making your captors look better by sewing them fancy new clothes. 512 00:26:17,986 --> 00:26:20,752 Right. And that's that's the thing about a product design, 513 00:26:20,752 --> 00:26:22,305 right? Like somebody has to make it. 514 00:26:22,305 --> 00:26:26,013 Somebody sits at a sewing machine or sits at a plate factory or whatever 515 00:26:26,013 --> 00:26:29,240 and like they have to produce these shitty goods. 516 00:26:29,740 --> 00:26:33,572 And Debich's other job, which also was also very deranged, 517 00:26:33,572 --> 00:26:36,574 was running the SS Porcelain Works at Alec. 518 00:26:36,574 --> 00:26:39,396 He designed dinnerware. Same guy, 519 00:26:39,396 --> 00:26:43,128 same eye, same project. Make this beautiful so people want to be near it. 520 00:26:43,628 --> 00:26:46,809 So the chain is Heck and Debitch in nineteen thirty two, 521 00:26:46,809 --> 00:26:50,611 manufactured by Hugo Boss on slave labor, 522 00:26:50,611 --> 00:26:54,672 absorbed into film iconography for fifty years, 523 00:26:54,672 --> 00:26:59,464 weaponized as satire by a man who watched the originals march past his house 524 00:26:59,464 --> 00:27:00,965 as a child in nineteen forty three, 525 00:27:00,965 --> 00:27:05,567 and then in September twenty twenty six pulled off the shelf by 526 00:27:05,567 --> 00:27:10,439 an AI image generator and captioned with discipline and functionality. 527 00:27:10,939 --> 00:27:11,939 Four steps. 528 00:27:12,150 --> 00:27:15,052 Four steps and one of them is a joke, 529 00:27:15,052 --> 00:27:17,894 and everybody somehow skipped the joke. 530 00:27:18,394 --> 00:27:21,889 Alright, so I think there are three things in this story that don't hold up, 531 00:27:21,889 --> 00:27:24,282 and one of them is is ours. 532 00:27:24,782 --> 00:27:25,782 Start with ours. 533 00:27:26,139 --> 00:27:29,500 So ours is going to be the the word fascist, 534 00:27:29,500 --> 00:27:34,051 right? We all have heard it as a descriptor about this administration, 535 00:27:34,051 --> 00:27:35,951 these this president, all of these elected leaders, 536 00:27:35,951 --> 00:27:38,762 but this uniform specifically. 537 00:27:38,762 --> 00:27:44,303 And I want to be careful because a black uniform is not a political ideology. 538 00:27:44,303 --> 00:27:47,124 The salon headline said the uniforms, 539 00:27:47,124 --> 00:27:49,305 quote, scream fascist supervillain, 540 00:27:49,305 --> 00:27:50,825 which is fine. I mean it's funny. 541 00:27:51,420 --> 00:27:54,081 And it's super accurate as like vibe criticism. 542 00:27:54,081 --> 00:27:56,382 But a coat is just a coat, right? 543 00:27:56,382 --> 00:28:00,994 Italy's ~ carabinieri, they look incredible if you've checked out their uniforms, 544 00:28:00,994 --> 00:28:03,766 and and Italy is a parliamentary democracy. 545 00:28:03,766 --> 00:28:07,308 So if our claim is that the aesthetic is the danger, 546 00:28:07,308 --> 00:28:09,319 then our claim is pretty weak, 547 00:28:09,319 --> 00:28:11,744 and somebody smarter than us will pull it apart in about 30 seconds. 548 00:28:12,244 --> 00:28:14,195 I mostly agree, and here's how I see it. 549 00:28:14,195 --> 00:28:16,235 The uniform isn't the offense. 550 00:28:16,235 --> 00:28:20,086 The uniform is diagnostic. The question a uniform answers, 551 00:28:20,086 --> 00:28:22,677 which is what does this institution want you to feel when you see us? 552 00:28:22,677 --> 00:28:26,498 And Debitch and Heck had a very specific answer in nineteen thirty two, 553 00:28:26,498 --> 00:28:29,279 which is they wanted to mess their pants. 554 00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:31,720 Fear plus envy in the same glance. 555 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,881 The combination is the design brief, 556 00:28:33,881 --> 00:28:35,091 and that's what the black was for. 557 00:28:36,086 --> 00:28:42,017 Right. Fear plus envy. Like mean girls without the glitz and the glamour 558 00:28:42,017 --> 00:28:43,017 and the makeup. 559 00:28:43,058 --> 00:28:45,654 Well every day we wear black. Right? 560 00:28:45,654 --> 00:28:48,059 Get it? 'Cause on Penn Wednesdays they wear pink. 561 00:28:46,550 --> 00:28:48,535 Hmm. Took me a second, I was like, 562 00:28:48,535 --> 00:28:49,535 what kind of accent is that? 563 00:28:50,946 --> 00:28:53,362 Alright. You want the population? 564 00:28:52,204 --> 00:28:53,514 They all want me to wear 565 00:28:53,514 --> 00:28:54,763 the black clothings. 566 00:28:55,674 --> 00:28:59,095 On every day. Alright, you want the you want the population 567 00:28:57,801 --> 00:28:58,801 Alright, enough of that. 568 00:28:59,095 --> 00:29:02,266 frightened of you. Yeah, let's ~ Yeah. 569 00:29:02,266 --> 00:29:06,068 you want the

population frightened of you and simultaneously wishing they were you. 570 00:29:06,068 --> 00:29:07,829 That's what makes it work as recruitment, 571 00:29:07,829 --> 00:29:12,400 right? 'Cause Verhoven understood that so precisely that he reproduced 572 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,922 the whole apparatus. And twenty nine years of teenage boys wanting 573 00:29:15,922 --> 00:29:17,102 the code proves he nailed it. 574 00:29:17,602 --> 00:29:20,191 So the graphic kind of just tells us the vibe. 575 00:29:20,691 --> 00:29:23,696 Well, somebody in that building wants the American military to produce fear plus 576 00:29:23,696 --> 00:29:25,800 envy. Somebody in that building. 577 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:26,812 And 578 00:29:26,391 --> 00:29:27,391 Mm-hmm. 579 00:29:26,812 --> 00:29:30,018 reached for the most efficient known template for it and cited their source, 580 00:29:30,018 --> 00:29:31,300 which is unusually helpful of them. 581 00:29:31,831 --> 00:29:34,035 Sure, but they forgot the peer review. 582 00:29:34,035 --> 00:29:37,081 Anyway, second thing that doesn't add up, 583 00:29:37,081 --> 00:29:40,287 the stated justification, discipline, 584 00:29:40,287 --> 00:29:42,481 and functionality. 585 00:29:42,981 --> 00:29:45,703 Which we've established is false at least on the functionality part. 586 00:29:45,703 --> 00:29:48,174 So fifty percent that's an F, right? 587 00:29:49,061 --> 00:29:50,402 And the American grading system. 588 00:29:50,402 --> 00:29:54,464 But I hear the the Asian grading system is a lot harder. 589 00:29:54,464 --> 00:30:00,317 So let's ask what would have to be true for that sentence to make sense, 590 00:30:00,317 --> 00:30:05,050 right? You'd need the Starship Troopers uniform to be a functional garment. 591 00:30:05,050 --> 00:30:09,413 It isn't. It never was. It's a costume built to look good on camera 592 00:30:09,413 --> 00:30:12,534 and fail on screen while the cameras are rolling. 593 00:30:12,534 --> 00:30:15,356 You need this movie to be. 594 00:30:15,592 --> 00:30:19,215 presenting that military as disciplined in a way that you'd admire. 595 00:30:19,215 --> 00:30:24,859 But it presents them as disciplined the way like a cult is disciplined, 596 00:30:24,859 --> 00:30:29,783 which is the point of the scene where they all cheer while a guy gets executed 597 00:30:29,783 --> 00:30:31,084 on live reality television. 598 00:30:31,584 --> 00:30:35,097 And there's a recruitment ad in the film that ends with children stomping insects 599 00:30:35,097 --> 00:30:37,356 while an adult says, Everyone's doing their part, 600 00:30:37,356 --> 00:30:38,356 are you? 601 00:30:38,257 --> 00:30:41,211 So for discipline and functionality to be an honest take, 602 00:30:41,211 --> 00:30:44,856 you'd have to actually have watched the movie with the sound off. 603 00:30:44,856 --> 00:30:49,273 Which and I say this with sincerity is my leading theory. 604 00:30:49,773 --> 00:30:51,523 My theory is that nobody watched it at all. 605 00:30:51,523 --> 00:30:53,193 My theory is that somebody typed a prompt. 606 00:30:53,693 --> 00:30:55,945 Well, mm, what do you mean by that? 607 00:30:55,945 --> 00:30:56,945 Like, spell it out. 608 00:30:57,229 --> 00:31:00,241 Here's what I think happened, and I want to flag clearly that this is inference, 609 00:31:00,241 --> 00:31:02,822 not documented. It's an AI slot, 610 00:31:02,822 --> 00:31:05,524 so the process was somebody wanted a cool future uniform. 611 00:31:05,524 --> 00:31:08,145 They typed a description into an image model, 612 00:31:08,145 --> 00:31:11,097 and the fastest way to get a cool future uniform out of an image model is 613 00:31:11,097 --> 00:31:14,479 to name a movie. You write in the style of Starship Troopers, 614 00:31:14,479 --> 00:31:17,131 because the model has seen 10,000 stills from it. 615 00:31:17,131 --> 00:31:20,553 Then the model returns something and someone builds a slide around it, 616 00:31:20,553 --> 00:31:24,605 and the design inspiration line is just the prompt cleaned up and given a font. 617 00:31:25,105 --> 00:31:28,372 Yeah, that's worse, but not I I mean, 618 00:31:28,372 --> 00:31:33,024 not far off from where I think the average AI user is right now in terms 619 00:31:33,024 --> 00:31:35,299 of prompt mechanics and prompt engineering. 620 00:31:35,799 --> 00:31:39,023 Right, but for the administration it's much worse because it means nobody vibe 621 00:31:39,023 --> 00:31:40,935 checked it at all. There was no meeting, 622 00:31:40,935 --> 00:31:42,857 nobody said we want fear plus envy. 623 00:31:42,857 --> 00:31:45,851 Somebody wanted a picture, the picture needed a reference and 624 00:31:45,851 --> 00:31:48,734 the reference was whatever the closest to hand was closest to hand 625 00:31:48,734 --> 00:31:49,734 in the model's memory. 626 00:31:50,025 --> 00:31:53,461 Yeah, I guess ~ what's closest to hand when the request is make 627 00:31:53,522 --> 00:31:55,846 the space soldiers look scary, 628 00:31:55,846 --> 00:32:00,354 right, is ninety years of imagery descended from two guys who just 629 00:32:00,354 --> 00:32:02,899 so happened to work for the Nazis in nineteen thirty two. 630 00:32:03,399 --> 00:32:06,953 Right, that's the mechanism. The model isn't being fascist, 631 00:32:06,953 --> 00:32:10,497 the model's being average. It's giving you the statistical center 632 00:32:10,497 --> 00:32:14,011 of imposing military uniform as rendered across everything humans have ever 633 00:32:14,011 --> 00:32:18,827 put on film, and the statistical center of that data set is downstream 634 00:32:18,827 --> 00:32:22,001 of Heck and Debitch because they were extraordinarily good at their jobs, 635 00:32:22,001 --> 00:32:23,943 and everyone's been copying them since. 636 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,798 So the danger isn't that a machine has politics. 637 00:32:28,298 --> 00:32:31,279 Not in this case. In fact, in this case the dis the danger is that 638 00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:33,842 it

doesn't have politics. It has an average, 639 00:32:33,842 --> 00:32:35,343 and the average is contaminated. 640 00:32:35,343 --> 00:32:37,184 If you use it without knowing anything, 641 00:32:37,184 --> 00:32:39,176 you inherit the contamination and put it on a slide. 642 00:32:39,676 --> 00:32:43,387 Yeah, I think I'll go f one further and say that the part that actually concerns 643 00:32:43,387 --> 00:32:47,318 me about how this stuff is is sort of getting used in government, 644 00:32:47,318 --> 00:32:52,460 and it's not really the whole like people usually worry about kind of thing. 645 00:32:52,460 --> 00:32:55,180 Everyone's braced for AI to make something up. 646 00:32:55,180 --> 00:32:57,381 Fine, right? Like that's that's manageable. 647 00:32:57,381 --> 00:33:00,822 You check it, you c we call it guardrails or or grounding, 648 00:33:00,822 --> 00:33:03,563 right, in the in the computer tech space. 649 00:33:03,563 --> 00:33:08,304 But what I don't actually see anyone braced for is the AI giving you the most 650 00:33:08,654 --> 00:33:12,647 conventional possible answer, like literally statistically, 651 00:33:12,647 --> 00:33:19,113 visually average. Just as like a fresh idea and and nobody in the room having enough 652 00:33:19,113 --> 00:33:22,516 history to recognize where that statistical average came from. 653 00:33:23,016 --> 00:33:24,016 Because it looks new. 654 00:33:24,388 --> 00:33:25,970 Well the timestamp is new, right? 655 00:33:25,970 --> 00:33:27,803 Because it was generated four seconds ago. 656 00:33:27,803 --> 00:33:30,166 But it's a ninety four year old design. 657 00:33:30,666 --> 00:33:33,938 And it arrives with a con a confidence that a human designer wouldn't have, 658 00:33:33,938 --> 00:33:36,239 right? Nobody would put this out there as their work and be proud of it. 659 00:33:36,239 --> 00:33:40,762 A human costume designer in nineteen ninety seven knew exactly what he was quoting. 660 00:33:40,762 --> 00:33:43,604 That was the job. The model doesn't know it's quoting. 661 00:33:44,104 --> 00:33:48,001 Yeah. Third thing that doesn't add up and this one's just a straight missing number. 662 00:33:48,001 --> 00:33:50,746 Like what does this actually cost us in the long run? 663 00:33:51,246 --> 00:33:52,246 No idea. 664 00:33:52,289 --> 00:33:57,262 Well, you have no idea yet. But that's not an oversight. 665 00:33:57,262 --> 00:33:59,834 I mean, that's just the way Republicans have worked for years. 666 00:33:59,834 --> 00:34:03,176 Look at the pattern of the numbers we already have, 667 00:34:03,176 --> 00:34:05,818 right? The parade twenty five to forty five million. 668 00:34:05,818 --> 00:34:08,860 That's a twenty million dollar uncertainty band, 669 00:34:08,860 --> 00:34:11,432 right? For an event that already happened. 670 00:34:11,432 --> 00:34:12,873 It's not like we can unspend it, 671 00:34:12,873 --> 00:34:17,466 right? We renamed the Department of War ten million to two billion dollars. 672 00:34:17,466 --> 00:34:21,609 Those are I don't know, ~ with dollar signs attached. 673 00:34:21,761 --> 00:34:27,717 Just like the Lake Ontario to Lake America and and Gulf of Mexico 674 00:34:27,717 --> 00:34:31,681 to Gulf of America and now apparently New Mexico to New America. 675 00:34:31,681 --> 00:34:37,076 I it's so it's so mind boggling if we're being honest. 676 00:34:37,076 --> 00:34:38,076 But 677 00:34:37,213 --> 00:34:38,213 And 678 00:34:38,105 --> 00:34:39,816 yeah. And in each of these 679 00:34:39,178 --> 00:34:40,178 No, it's fine. 680 00:34:39,816 --> 00:34:42,511 cases the announcement the announcement comes before the accounting 681 00:34:42,511 --> 00:34:44,875 by a wide margin. September fifth, 682 00:34:44,875 --> 00:34:46,558 twenty twenty five, order signed, 683 00:34:46,558 --> 00:34:49,223 letters coming off the resolute desk that afternoon. 684 00:34:49,723 --> 00:34:51,616 So when a uniform pick, right, 685 00:34:51,616 --> 00:34:53,599 goes up with no program, no wear test, 686 00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:57,104 no number, the only honest look at this is that the number is going 687 00:34:57,104 --> 00:35:00,198 to be produced later by whoever gets stuck putting it into place. 688 00:35:00,198 --> 00:35:04,925 And the range will be embarrassing for all of us because we pay those with 689 00:35:04,925 --> 00:35:05,925 our tax dollars. 690 00:35:06,176 --> 00:35:07,847 And here's what none of us know at this point. 691 00:35:07,847 --> 00:35:09,827 nobody outside the administration knows. 692 00:35:09,827 --> 00:35:11,368 We don't know if this becomes real. 693 00:35:11,368 --> 00:35:14,049 We don't know whether there's a follow-up memo. 694 00:35:14,049 --> 00:35:15,759 The research we did didn't have one. 695 00:35:15,759 --> 00:35:19,021 ~ it's possible that this is a post that dies as a post, 696 00:35:19,021 --> 00:35:23,212 right? In six months the SPFI thirty six dash two nine three uniform 697 00:35:23,652 --> 00:35:25,843 is the only uniform in the graphic is a trivia answer. 698 00:35:26,343 --> 00:35:29,607 think I'd rather it be the inscription on the tombstone of this administration. 699 00:35:29,607 --> 00:35:30,607 How about you? 700 00:35:30,499 --> 00:35:33,968 I'd take that outcome. But I'd note that we survived because the decision 701 00:35:33,968 --> 00:35:36,856 was too dumb to implement. It's not a governing structure anyone should 702 00:35:36,856 --> 00:35:38,049 be comfortable relying on. 703 00:35:38,660 --> 00:35:41,974 Haha I would agree with that. So here's what I think this is really about, 704 00:35:41,974 --> 00:35:47,502 and I think the movie stuff is both a gift and I think the movie stuff 705 00:35:47,502 --> 00:35:48,964 is also a distraction at the same. 706 00:35:49,464 --> 00:35:52,221 In the familiar words of our former pr press secretary, 707 00:35:52,221 --> 00:35:53,986 both things can be true at the same time. 708 00:35:54,590 --> 00:35:57,101 Right. A uniform is a promise,

709 00:35:57,101 --> 00:36:00,122 right? It's it's the ethical content of it. 710 00:36:00,122 --> 00:36:02,242 When you put a person in a uniform, 711 00:36:02,242 --> 00:36:05,003 the institution is saying two things at one time. 712 00:36:05,003 --> 00:36:07,804 This person acts on our authority, 713 00:36:07,804 --> 00:36:10,585 and this person is accountable to us, 714 00:36:10,585 --> 00:36:16,397 which is a claim of both legitimacy and a claim of restraint 715 00:36:16,397 --> 00:36:19,488 in the same exact uniform. That's why 716 00:36:20,068 --> 00:36:24,784 An unmarked goon with tactical gear covering his face with a with a sock puppet 717 00:36:25,386 --> 00:36:31,013 and no name on his his badge or his uniform is really scary. 718 00:36:31,013 --> 00:36:34,468 So much more so than a police officer in a uniform with a name and 719 00:36:34,468 --> 00:36:36,631 a badge number and a business card that they can actually hand you. 720 00:36:37,131 --> 00:36:41,318 And this one tells you that the consequences belong to a mood board. 721 00:36:42,311 --> 00:36:45,974 Right. Because the space uniform that does exist, 722 00:36:45,974 --> 00:36:47,905 that the SPF thirty six twenty nine three, 723 00:36:47,905 --> 00:36:49,876 I think we should we should come up with an easier name for it. 724 00:36:49,876 --> 00:36:51,808 That's just it's SPFI 725 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,440 Mm-hmm. 726 00:36:51,808 --> 00:36:53,639 thirty six dash two nine zero three. 727 00:36:53,639 --> 00:36:58,072 But that's how I mean that's how not far along they were in 728 00:36:58,072 --> 00:36:59,433 the uniform selection process. 729 00:36:59,433 --> 00:37:01,194 It just still has a classification number, 730 00:37:01,194 --> 00:37:05,507 right? But it was a promise made by an institution. 731 00:37:05,507 --> 00:37:08,609 And it came out of a process with names on it. 732 00:37:08,609 --> 00:37:10,831 Saltzman signed off and and Guardians have 733 00:37:10,921 --> 00:37:15,695 Tested this so far, Brandy Gonzalez stood there and modeled it in November of 2025. 734 00:37:15,695 --> 00:37:18,237 That is boring, but it's legitimate, 735 00:37:18,237 --> 00:37:22,140 right? And it's also accountable to us as the people who are paying 736 00:37:22,140 --> 00:37:24,742 for these uniforms and paying for these armed services. 737 00:37:24,742 --> 00:37:29,245 The graphic itself is a promise made by nobody, 738 00:37:29,245 --> 00:37:31,427 right? There's no signature, there's no board, 739 00:37:31,427 --> 00:37:36,591 there's no process. And the design credit really goes to just kind of a funny movie. 740 00:37:37,091 --> 00:37:39,104 And I think that's what actually unsettled people this week. 741 00:37:39,104 --> 00:37:41,777 It's not the black uniform, it's the unaccountability of it. 742 00:37:41,777 --> 00:37:43,970 You look at that image and there's nothing behind it. 743 00:37:43,970 --> 00:37:46,583 It's an outfit for a military with no institution attached. 744 00:37:47,547 --> 00:37:51,700 Right. So look, we don't really have anything for you to pay attention to this time, 745 00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:54,401 right? We don't have like a list of things that you should do, 746 00:37:54,401 --> 00:37:56,093 not including calling your senator. 747 00:37:56,093 --> 00:38:01,266 Nothing that caught us off guard or anything that we keep coming back 748 00:38:01,266 --> 00:38:04,238 to because this is all starting to feel like just a giant joke. 749 00:38:04,238 --> 00:38:07,480 We wanted to be a little lighthearted this week and, 750 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,492 you know, point at the big stupid shit coming out of Washington 751 00:38:10,492 --> 00:38:14,145 and hopefully laugh along with you without getting too serious. 752 00:38:14,645 --> 00:38:16,176 Hence the terrible German accent. 753 00:38:16,740 --> 00:38:17,740 Right. 754 00:38:17,778 --> 00:38:20,621 we aren't great at that because we like the history and when you're looking 755 00:38:20,621 --> 00:38:24,905 at the parallels between current dark times and relating them to the past dark ages, 756 00:38:24,905 --> 00:38:26,787 it can sometimes feel all too serious. 757 00:38:27,534 --> 00:38:29,111 Yeah, I think we're both a little guilty of that. 758 00:38:29,611 --> 00:38:32,155 Did any of you know in our audience that servicemen and women had to 759 00:38:32,155 --> 00:38:33,548 buy their own work uniforms? Joshua, 760 00:38:33,548 --> 00:38:34,548 did you know that? 761 00:38:34,589 --> 00:38:39,692 Well, I think I vaguely remember something about that because there is an allowance, 762 00:38:39,692 --> 00:38:41,943 right? Like you get an I think and I think it's just like one. 763 00:38:41,943 --> 00:38:45,435 You know, and I think you have you get one in so many amounts of time. 764 00:38:45,435 --> 00:38:47,326 But if you're if you're enlisted full time, 765 00:38:47,326 --> 00:38:50,528 like you need to wash them because they're gonna get dirty 766 00:38:50,256 --> 00:38:51,256 Exactly. 767 00:38:50,948 --> 00:38:52,089 in the same way that you have, 768 00:38:52,089 --> 00:38:55,361 you know, a couple of suits. ~ if you were working in an office. 769 00:38:55,361 --> 00:38:57,412 I is that what people do? I don't work in an office anymore. 770 00:38:57,412 --> 00:39:00,754 D do people show up in suits still or is it just like jeans and t shirts? 771 00:39:00,754 --> 00:39:02,695 No. But y you need more than, 772 00:39:01,958 --> 00:39:02,958 Some do. 773 00:39:02,755 --> 00:39:03,755 you know 774 00:39:03,325 --> 00:39:07,169 w one t shirt or one pair of jeans anywhere you go and so they have to 775 00:39:07,169 --> 00:39:08,635 pay for those completely out of pocket. 776 00:39:09,135 --> 00:39:12,917 Right. So here's our stake. We're saying that by March thirty first, 777 00:39:12,917 --> 00:39:16,800 two thousand twenty seven, long after AI AGI has arrived, 778 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:17,800 ~ the 779 00:39:17,137 --> 00:39:18,137 Mm-hmm.

780 00:39:17,530 --> 00:39:21,613 Space Force will not have adopted the black and gray design from that Truth Social 781 00:39:21,613 --> 00:39:23,184 graphic as an official uniform. 782 00:39:23,184 --> 00:39:27,467 And SPFI, should leave it at that, 783 00:39:27,467 --> 00:39:31,440 the dark blue jacket with the silver buttons and gray pants will still 784 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,581 be the service's actual dress uniform of record. 785 00:39:34,081 --> 00:39:37,614 We really hope this one actually dies as a true social post. 786 00:39:37,614 --> 00:39:39,995 I I mean I have to be honest. But look, 787 00:39:39,995 --> 00:39:43,918 if we're wrong, we will let you know and we'll say it while looking 788 00:39:43,918 --> 00:39:48,882 at a photograph of an American service member a a Space Force Guardian wearing 789 00:39:48,882 --> 00:39:50,163 a doogie Himmler coat. 790 00:39:50,663 --> 00:39:53,105 Which I would like on the record as an outcome I would bet against. 791 00:39:53,105 --> 00:39:54,365 But hey, you know, 792 00:39:53,792 --> 00:39:54,792 Noted. 793 00:39:54,365 --> 00:39:57,017 at least we have work one thing we have working for us is that Donald Trump hasn't 794 00:39:57,017 --> 00:40:00,229 shown up by anybody's bedside at a hospital and miraculously cured them. 795 00:40:00,229 --> 00:40:02,831 So some of these posts die on the vine. 796 00:40:02,654 --> 00:40:03,654 N 797 00:40:02,945 --> 00:40:09,136 no one has miraculously showed up at n at Donald Trump's bed at a hospital yet. 798 00:40:09,636 --> 00:40:10,636 Right. 799 00:40:10,406 --> 00:40:13,177 So no one has shown up yet. We're we'll we'll still wait on that. 800 00:40:13,177 --> 00:40:14,617 That's why we're we're starting to 801 00:40:14,329 --> 00:40:15,329 Okay. 802 00:40:14,877 --> 00:40:16,448 we're trying to collect the receipts here, 803 00:40:16,448 --> 00:40:19,369 right? We're gonna we're trying to make predictions and see what happens later on. 804 00:40:19,369 --> 00:40:22,700 We'll include it in a another post or something like that. 805 00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:23,700 So look, 806 00:40:23,471 --> 00:40:24,471 Sounds good. 807 00:40:24,481 --> 00:40:27,972 thanks for joining us today. 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Not all of them, 824 00:41:15,876 --> 00:41:18,077 five stars. Either way it would help us. 825 00:41:18,077 --> 00:41:21,659 It's ~ it's basically a a pop up for, 826 00:41:21,659 --> 00:41:24,061 you know, other people so that they can laugh with us. 827 00:41:24,061 --> 00:41:26,502 Or cry, you know, K Sarah Sarah. 828 00:41:26,502 --> 00:41:29,764 So Will, thank you for watching that movie twice, 829 00:41:29,764 --> 00:41:33,366 I think you said, and thank you for being co host with me on another episode. 830 00:41:33,866 --> 00:41:38,281 I do it again. So in fact I'll probably watch Stormtroopers again Stormtroopers. 831 00:41:38,281 --> 00:41:40,363 Starship Troopers again tonight. 832 00:41:40,363 --> 00:41:43,506 So ~ I actually might see Stormtroopers, 833 00:41:43,506 --> 00:41:44,868 but maybe I'll watch Star Wars. 834 00:41:44,651 --> 00:41:45,651 I 835 00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:47,706 you know, it it still holds true for the graphic. 836 00:41:48,206 --> 00:41:50,087 Right, which I you know, one thing we didn't talk about and I know it's 837 00:41:50,087 --> 00:41:52,047 not your favorite movie, that's why I didn't bring it up before now, 838 00:41:52,047 --> 00:41:54,638 but the Star Wars movie, like the Empire in Star Wars, 839 00:41:54,638 --> 00:41:57,540 also has very similar uniforms to the the Nazis. 840 00:41:57,540 --> 00:41:59,100 But 841 00:41:58,129 --> 00:41:59,129 I thought were white. 842 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:00,880 the the stormtroopers are white, 843 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:01,880 but the the 844 00:42:01,227 --> 00:42:02,227 Okay. 845 00:42:01,790 --> 00:42:06,022 admin like the officers all have that sort of similar look with the 846 00:42:05,619 --> 00:42:07,300 Okay. I guess they were black. 847 00:42:06,022 --> 00:42:08,453 the like crisp lines and yeah. 848 00:42:07,300 --> 00:42:08,641 yeah, sorry guys, 849 00:42:08,641 --> 00:42:11,383 I'm not a I'm not a warzy. I'm a Trekkie, 850 00:42:11,383 --> 00:42:16,766 so I I prefer, you know, space utopia over trailer park space opera. 851 00:42:16,766 --> 00:42:19,588 Not a huge fan, but Will is, so. 852 00:42:19,588 --> 00:42:21,259 He actually likes both, right? 853 00:42:20,615 --> 00:42:22,667 Nobody's perfect, Joshua. I do. 854 00:42:21,259 --> 00:42:23,991 You you're a bother. Yeah, and that's fine. 855 00:42:22,667 --> 00:42:26,121 I'm both there. I'm equal opportunity fantasy. 856 00:42:23,991 --> 00:42:27,484 Yep, I just not good on the 857 00:42:26,121 --> 00:42:27,423 Space fantasy. 858 00:42:27,484 --> 00:42:32,637 space trailer park. Anyway, ~ you guys should all watch Stormtroopers 859 00:42:32,637 --> 00:42:33,898 or Starship Troopers or 860 00:42:34,216 --> 00:42:37,230 Whatever, the Federation. Yes, 861 00:42:35,229 --> 00:42:37,521 Super troopers if you like. Meow. 862 00:42:37,230 --> 00:42:38,230 if you 863 00:42:38,012 --> 00:42:41,707 not the second one. but if you could use some lighthearted humor, 864 00:42:41,707 --> 00:42:43,039 because I think we all probably could. 865 00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:45,001 Make sure you take care of each other. 866 00:42:45,001 --> 00:42:47,123 Bye. 867 00:42:46,335 --> 00:42:47,335 Bye.