Missing Son, Missing Answers: A Family’s Fight for Truth and Reform의 전체 녹취록

go to. One early part of that morning, 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:59.260 in a second to meet a person off of Sun Valley 00:01:59.260 --> 00:02:02.000 Parkway that's in Buckeye, Arizona. I meet a 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:03.780 person that works for a different company called 00:02:03.780 --> 00:02:07.180 Weber Waterworks. Of course, that worker reported 00:02:07.180 --> 00:02:10.759 that Daniel, to his job, that Daniel just drove 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:13.460 away from the work site is what I was told. What 00:02:13.460 --> 00:02:16.259 brought me into the conversation of that is when 00:02:16.259 --> 00:02:18.819 one of Daniel's co -workers, a friend of his, 00:02:18.900 --> 00:02:20.919 an off -the -job friend of his, came to my daughter's 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:22.560 apartment. She was living in Phoenix, Arizona 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:25.090 at the time and inquired if Daniel was there 00:02:25.090 --> 00:02:27.229 she was really puzzled about it you know wondering 00:02:27.229 --> 00:02:28.870 how does god know where she lived first of all 00:02:28.870 --> 00:02:31.530 second part is why he's asking for daniel uh 00:02:31.530 --> 00:02:33.669 and so of course my daughter is going to call 00:02:33.669 --> 00:02:35.449 me to let me know what's going on in arizona 00:02:36.180 --> 00:02:37.939 I'm in Columbia, South Carolina at the time. 00:02:38.060 --> 00:02:40.919 But like I said, just the fact that once we realized 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:44.599 something was going horribly wrong and the way 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:46.439 we found that out is I sent my daughter to his 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:48.240 apartment to see if he was there. In the meantime, 00:02:48.460 --> 00:02:51.840 I was calling his mother and some other family 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:53.580 members and friends to see if they even heard 00:02:53.580 --> 00:02:56.360 from Daniel that day. Nobody have. I looked at 00:02:56.360 --> 00:02:57.759 the time difference. Like I said, it's a three 00:02:57.759 --> 00:03:00.400 -hour difference from South Carolina to Arizona. 00:03:00.659 --> 00:03:02.960 So I look at the time difference from the time 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:05.560 they say, you know, the workers are just job 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:07.620 said they last heard from him was in that morning 00:03:07.620 --> 00:03:10.219 hours and it was over six hours so that's when 00:03:10.219 --> 00:03:13.479 i decided to uh have a welfare check first done 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:16.039 uh and then after that uh report him missing 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:19.080 okay so they did go to his apartment and they 00:03:19.080 --> 00:03:21.520 didn't find anything well they didn't directly 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:24.039 go to his apartment daniel lived in tempe arizona 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:26.560 at the time um this is like outside of venice 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:29.500 i did reach out to law enforcement of tempe they 00:03:29.500 --> 00:03:32.759 did not want to go do a welfare check I had to 00:03:32.759

--> 00:03:35.500 later was pushed over to the Buckeye Police Department 00:03:35.500 --> 00:03:38.400 because that was the last place he was seen and 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:40.960 convinced them to have Timothy go out and do 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:42.840 a welfare check, which they only drove by his 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:45.520 apartment in his patio window. And that's the 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:48.479 extent of that welfare check. OK. And tell me 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:50.479 what happened after you reported him missing. 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:54.319 Well, police immediately started searching for 00:03:54.319 --> 00:03:57.599 him or. What happened there? No, we couldn't 00:03:57.599 --> 00:03:59.500 get any search done. You know, once I got more, 00:03:59.500 --> 00:04:01.240 gathered more information, I was talking to an 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:03.639 officer. I think his name was Cruz, Officer Cruz 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:05.460 at the time. The only thing they were doing at 00:04:05.460 --> 00:04:08.379 the time, in terms of searching, is to ride up 00:04:08.379 --> 00:04:10.819 and down Sun Valley Parkway in the area where 00:04:10.819 --> 00:04:12.819 Daniel was missing, outside of the snow in that 00:04:12.819 --> 00:04:15.000 desert, but out in that area. They rode up and 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:17.139 down that road. It's a very long road. I'd say 00:04:17.139 --> 00:04:20.399 that road pretty much is a good 50 miles long, 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:21.759 but they wanted to make sure he wasn't stuck 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:24.319 on the side of the road. So, you know, of course, 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:25.759 once I found out, Danny actually went missing 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:27.939 in the desert. I requested them to send a helicopter 00:04:27.939 --> 00:04:29.920 out to search for him. That was turned down, 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:31.879 denied. A day later, they said he was going to 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:34.360 do it the next day. That was denied as well. 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:36.540 So that prompted me to leave my home in South 00:04:36.540 --> 00:04:39.300 Carolina to drive up to Arizona to look for Danny 00:04:39.300 --> 00:04:42.500 and myself. So did you organize a search party 00:04:42.500 --> 00:04:45.230 or what happened? You went there. by yourself 00:04:45.230 --> 00:04:47.550 looking for Daniel? Yes, I did. I have my daughter 00:04:47.550 --> 00:04:49.589 in Phoenix. So once I got Arizona and Phoenix, 00:04:49.769 --> 00:04:52.170 my daughter and I did our due diligence. We searched 00:04:52.170 --> 00:04:54.269 the airports and just to make sure we know Daniel 00:04:54.269 --> 00:04:56.509 wouldn't do it, but just in case something that 00:04:56.509 --> 00:04:58.649 we just didn't know, we searched the, I mean, 00:04:58.689 --> 00:05:01.209 every, literally every parking space in the airports, 00:05:01.389 --> 00:05:03.670 the private spots, reached out to Red Cross, 00:05:03.769 --> 00:05:07.290 NAACP and some other organizations for help. 00:05:07.370 --> 00:05:09.850 We also work with law enforcement at time, getting 00:05:09.850 --> 00:05:11.730 all the information that we can give them. But 00:05:11.730 --> 00:05:14.670 yes, I started, ended up starting of my own search 00:05:14.670 --> 00:05:16.970 for daniel when law enforcement would not because 00:05:16.970 --> 00:05:19.089 i went out there every day on sun valley parkway 00:05:19.089 --> 00:05:21.170 almost to the only thing that separated me from 00:05:21.170 --> 00:05:24.310 my son was the desert itself i decided to organize 00:05:24.310 --> 00:05:27.569 a search and i did that okay and unfortunately 00:05:27.569 --> 00:05:30.329 you didn't find daniel at that time no no after 00:05:30.329 --> 00:05:34.329 a total of 49 weeks uh covered over 35 000 acres 00:05:34.329 --> 00:05:38.269 of land No, we cover other human remains, bring 00:05:38.269 --> 00:05:40.310 clothes for other families, but no, have not 00:05:40.310 --> 00:05:43.110 found my son. So I have here that a rancher found 00:05:43.110 --> 00:05:46.269 Daniel's Jeep in a ravine with his airbags deployed 00:05:46.269 --> 00:05:50.589 on his property on July 23rd, which is roughly 00:05:50.589 --> 00:05:53.129 a month later, and that that same rancher had 00:05:53.129 --> 00:05:55.850 been in the ravine on the 17th, and his car wasn't 00:05:55.850 --> 00:05:58.910 there the 17th of July, and his car wasn't turned 00:05:58.910 --> 00:06:01.629 over in the ravine. Is that correct? Well, on 00:06:01.629 --> 00:06:04.800 the 19th of July. 19th of July? Yes, sir. Yeah, 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:07.480 the rancher found my son's vehicle. But yes, 00:06:07.560 --> 00:06:10.160 like you said, he testified for my investigator 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:12.319 that he was there two days prior looking for 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:14.560 his cattle that comes through that ravine to 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:17.000 get to a corral. The vehicle wasn't there, but 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:19.639 on the 19th it was. Okay, so in the vehicle, 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:22.899 they found Daniel's personal belongings. They 00:06:22.899 --> 00:06:25.100 found the clothes outside the vehicle, his keys, 00:06:25.180 --> 00:06:27.639 wallet, cell phone. Is that correct? That is 00:06:27.639 --> 00:06:30.259 correct. OK, so those that they found, I was 00:06:30.259 --> 00:06:31.939 I was kind of confused. The clothes were found 00:06:31.939 --> 00:06:34.519 outside of the car. Right. Were those the clothes 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:37.100 that he was wearing that day? You know, we didn't 00:06:37.100 --> 00:06:39.040 have nobody can verify this. What Daniel was 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:42.180 wearing to date. My daughter, who sees Daniel 00:06:42.180 --> 00:06:44.759 almost every day, don't recognize the clothing. 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:47.120 But nevertheless, that's something that law enforcement 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:50.399 telling us as family. The clothes were found 00:06:50.399

--> 00:06:52.040 three feet away from the vehicle in the pile, 00:06:52.240 --> 00:06:54.959 and they sent us Daniel's clothing, but we have 00:06:54.959 --> 00:06:57.019 no evidence of that. Okay, and they never tested 00:06:57.019 --> 00:07:00.100 the clothing, anything? No, they have not. Are 00:07:00.100 --> 00:07:02.480 they still holding on to the clothing, or have 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:05.269 they returned his belongings to you? Well, I 00:07:05.269 --> 00:07:07.649 can tell you once that vehicle showed up on July 00:07:07.649 --> 00:07:10.990 the 19th, on the 20th, the vehicle was turned 00:07:10.990 --> 00:07:13.709 over to me. And on the 23rd, everything from 00:07:13.709 --> 00:07:15.670 that scene, this clothing, everything was returned 00:07:15.670 --> 00:07:18.629 to me. All was for safekeeping, returned to me 00:07:18.629 --> 00:07:20.269 as safekeeping. There was no forensics done. 00:07:20.509 --> 00:07:23.410 On the 23rd, I requested law enforcement to do 00:07:23.410 --> 00:07:25.290 some type of forensic work, which they ended 00:07:25.290 --> 00:07:27.389 up doing, swabbing of the steering wheel, the 00:07:27.389 --> 00:07:30.129 shifter, and also the door panel. Of course, 00:07:30.149 --> 00:07:32.209 I'm currently trying to make sure they do all 00:07:32.209 --> 00:07:34.250 the forensic work because all the air deployed, 00:07:34.670 --> 00:07:37.750 suggesting someone else was in the vehicle. We 00:07:37.750 --> 00:07:40.310 need to verify that, who those persons were, 00:07:40.370 --> 00:07:42.569 personal persons were inside the vehicle. Okay. 00:07:42.610 --> 00:07:45.790 In September 2021, I have here that the Buckeye 00:07:45.790 --> 00:07:48.689 Police Department, they went out with helicopters, 00:07:48.870 --> 00:07:51.949 drones, cadaver dogs, and is that correct? I 00:07:51.949 --> 00:07:53.850 wanted to verify that with you. Oh, that was 00:07:53.850 --> 00:07:57.889 a day out. That was on the 19th of July. July, 00:07:58.250 --> 00:08:00.709 okay. Yeah, I know when the vehicle was found, 00:08:00.829 --> 00:08:03.639 I was told that they utilized cadaver ever dolls 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:07.120 and search dogs, which they came up with nothing 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:09.560 from that. But yes, that's what I was told. Okay. 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:12.300 And from there, where did you go? Is that when 00:08:12.300 --> 00:08:15.240 you hired the private investigator to look at 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:17.819 the scene of the accident? Yes, I did. And the 00:08:17.819 --> 00:08:19.920 reason why I hired a private investigator at 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:21.899 the time, the assessment from law enforcement, 00:08:22.060 --> 00:08:23.839 what they saw at the scene, they didn't do any 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:25.939 forensic work at the scene, but told me that 00:08:25.939 --> 00:08:27.779 the vehicle flipped and rolled and landed in 00:08:27.779 --> 00:08:30.420 a 20 -foot ravine, lied on the side. They felt 00:08:30.420 --> 00:08:32.360 that Daniel did not sustain any injuries, but 00:08:32.460 --> 00:08:34.039 At the same time, because he had the seatbelt 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:35.720 on, but at the same time, they said they believe 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:37.659 he had a severe head injury, kicked his way out 00:08:37.659 --> 00:08:39.220 of the sunroof. And because of that head injury, 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:41.840 you know, which they told me would cause a person 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:43.740 to feel like they are hot. He shredded his clothes 00:08:43.740 --> 00:08:46.100 off. That's why the clothing was three feet away 00:08:46.100 --> 00:08:48.580 from the vehicle. He may have wandered off under 00:08:48.580 --> 00:08:50.740 a bush or something to cool off in the wild animal. 00:08:51.149 --> 00:08:53.389 got to him. Then they also told me later that 00:08:53.389 --> 00:08:55.970 maybe he just decided to get away from his family, 00:08:56.029 --> 00:08:58.090 join a monastery, become a monk. So those two 00:08:58.090 --> 00:09:01.450 sentiments from law enforcement made me want 00:09:01.450 --> 00:09:03.700 a second opinion. And so I hired my... Private 00:09:03.700 --> 00:09:06.759 investigator who's also a accident reconstructionist, 00:09:06.779 --> 00:09:08.759 and he found a lot of the evidence and things 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:10.679 that we know about that vehicle to this date. 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:13.700 Okay, and you're referring to the car ignition 00:09:13.700 --> 00:09:17.179 was switched on and off over 45 times? Yes, my 00:09:17.179 --> 00:09:20.159 investigator found 11 additional miles on that 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:22.879 vehicle after the initial crash. He believed 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:25.340 that from the damage, the vehicle staged there 00:09:25.340 --> 00:09:27.179 because there's no damage on the vehicle that 00:09:27.179 --> 00:09:29.320 matches the terrain. Found red transfer paint 00:09:29.320 --> 00:09:31.220 on the side of the vehicle. That's nothing red 00:09:31.220 --> 00:09:32.720 in the desert, so it had to come in contact. 00:09:32.809 --> 00:09:35.409 with something also there was 46 initial cycles 00:09:35.409 --> 00:09:38.809 after the first air uh when airbag deployed the 00:09:38.809 --> 00:09:41.509 first crash there's also vehicle the first accident 00:09:41.509 --> 00:09:43.730 happened around one o 'clock near close to one 00:09:43.730 --> 00:09:45.649 o 'clock that day so we have a lot of information 00:09:45.649 --> 00:09:48.330 that came from my private investigator he found 00:09:48.330 --> 00:09:51.830 you know with the vehicle okay after that was 00:09:51.830 --> 00:09:54.730 it after that happened that you uh discovered 00:09:54.730 --> 00:09:57.330 that someone had entered daniel's apartment and 00:09:57.330 --> 00:10:01.129 had his personal uh laptop and ransacked his 00:10:01.129 --> 00:10:03.250 home well you You know, early on, my private 00:10:03.250 --> 00:10:06.610 investigator came on board. We

had law enforcement. 00:10:06.769 --> 00:10:09.269 Before my investigator came on, I had law enforcement 00:10:09.269 --> 00:10:12.350 to, you know, we had agreement with the landlords 00:10:12.350 --> 00:10:14.649 to go into Danny's apartment to be able to take 00:10:14.649 --> 00:10:16.250 some pictures. They weren't able to touch anything, 00:10:16.509 --> 00:10:18.570 but they can take pictures with the escort of 00:10:18.570 --> 00:10:20.470 the landlords. So we didn't get anything from 00:10:20.470 --> 00:10:22.710 that information -wise. And once I got my private 00:10:22.710 --> 00:10:25.529 investigator, he went and was able to get access 00:10:25.529 --> 00:10:27.850 to the apartment to do forensic work. Once he 00:10:27.850 --> 00:10:29.990 got the forensic work done, he came back with 00:10:29.990 --> 00:10:32.480 evidence that somebody was in his apartment looking 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:34.220 for something. But we didn't have a timeline 00:10:34.220 --> 00:10:35.919 to that. We didn't know if it was something Daniel 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:38.019 did before he went to work or, you know, something 00:10:38.019 --> 00:10:39.860 happened afterwards. We didn't have a time frame. 00:10:40.039 --> 00:10:42.860 But once my private investigator would no longer 00:10:42.860 --> 00:10:44.980 work for me, I was able to get the Tempe Police 00:10:44.980 --> 00:10:48.000 Department to do forensics for me. You know, 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:50.279 I talked to the mayor of Tempe and also the chiefs 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:53.059 and I was able to have them do forensics of all 00:10:53.059 --> 00:10:55.220 of Daniel's electronics in his apartments, the 00:10:55.220 --> 00:10:58.059 cell phone, everything that was found. And once 00:10:58.059 --> 00:11:01.700 that report came back, we found evidence of someone 00:11:01.700 --> 00:11:04.480 inside Danny's apartment after he went missing, 00:11:04.659 --> 00:11:06.720 looking for some things on his computer, going 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:08.580 through his computer, doing searches and things 00:11:08.580 --> 00:11:10.919 like that. So now we have a timeline. We put 00:11:10.919 --> 00:11:12.879 those two things together, what we saw in the 00:11:12.879 --> 00:11:14.779 apartment physically and also what we saw on 00:11:14.779 --> 00:11:16.700 the computer. We know someone was in there after 00:11:16.700 --> 00:11:20.220 that. Do you know what date that was? Did the 00:11:20.220 --> 00:11:22.779 forensics pull up what date the person was in 00:11:22.779 --> 00:11:24.919 the apartment doing the searches on his computer? 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:28.460 Yes, we do. However, unfortunately, I won't be 00:11:28.460 --> 00:11:30.360 able to give that date. because it's still an 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:32.340 investigation under my investigation i'm still 00:11:32.340 --> 00:11:34.340 working on that put things together but yes we 00:11:34.340 --> 00:11:37.259 do have a date okay to uh jump a little bit forward 00:11:37.259 --> 00:11:40.100 to october 21st i understand that law enforcement 00:11:40.100 --> 00:11:42.600 announced that daniel had been talking to a woman 00:11:42.600 --> 00:11:46.019 via text messages that he had met her and they 00:11:46.019 --> 00:11:49.000 exchanged phone numbers and that she had claimed 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:50.940 that daniel showed up at her home a number of 00:11:50.940 --> 00:11:54.019 times and made her very uncomfortable they asked 00:11:54.019 --> 00:11:58.210 the uh Daniel's coworkers, his friends, about 00:11:58.210 --> 00:12:00.909 Daniel wanting to commit suicide because of that 00:12:00.909 --> 00:12:03.750 situation. Is that how the investigation went? 00:12:03.950 --> 00:12:06.470 Did it go downhill from there? Or how did the 00:12:06.470 --> 00:12:09.190 investigation continue on? Well, you know, a 00:12:09.190 --> 00:12:11.730 lot of that stuff happened before the vehicle 00:12:11.730 --> 00:12:14.309 showed up. When it comes in terms of the young 00:12:14.309 --> 00:12:16.950 lady, the question they had with employees, the 00:12:16.950 --> 00:12:19.409 Buckeye Police Department utilized plurals when 00:12:19.409 --> 00:12:21.950 they only talked to one employee that was one 00:12:21.950 --> 00:12:23.809 of Daniel's off -the -job friends. You know, 00:12:23.870 --> 00:12:25.909 Daniel's a field geologist. Geologists, field 00:12:25.909 --> 00:12:29.070 geologists for Mature's New World, Mature's New 00:12:29.070 --> 00:12:31.649 World told me they rarely see their geologists 00:12:31.649 --> 00:12:33.629 come into the office. You know, that's where 00:12:33.629 --> 00:12:36.830 they field geologists. And so so nobody can assess 00:12:36.830 --> 00:12:40.070 what Daniel's mood was, you know, off that job 00:12:40.070 --> 00:12:41.610 because he don't actually work at the office. 00:12:41.789 --> 00:12:44.049 And his other part is with the young lady, my 00:12:44.049 --> 00:12:46.049 son. He mentioned the young lady two days before 00:12:46.049 --> 00:12:48.330 he went missing. You know, he and I often have 00:12:48.330 --> 00:12:50.490 our conversations. Conversations are always two 00:12:50.490 --> 00:12:52.750 hours long, at least. That's the minimum. Within 00:12:52.750 --> 00:12:54.299 that conversation, he spoke about. the young 00:12:54.299 --> 00:12:56.320 lady but he never used the word love he described 00:12:56.320 --> 00:12:58.759 to me uh spending night with a young lady problem 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:01.500 that we have as a family is that everything the 00:13:01.500 --> 00:13:03.919 lady said on this report and it's based on what 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:06.519 law enforcement put in that report based on evidence 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:09.360 of them allowing this young lady to upload her 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:11.840 own text messages into their database and we 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:13.899 see that their text message that she sent up 00:13:13.899 --> 00:13:15.860 do not match his phone

records in other words 00:13:15.860 --> 00:13:17.399 there's some things missing some things added 00:13:17.399 --> 00:13:19.899 so we definitely have a problem with that because 00:13:19.899 --> 00:13:23.080 it's this is bad representation of daniel there's 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:25.259 no evidence when law enforcement says she said 00:13:25.259 --> 00:13:27.299 he showed up at her house she saw him through 00:13:27.299 --> 00:13:29.519 a camera law enforcement failed to even pull 00:13:29.519 --> 00:13:31.960 video of that camera to verify but put in their 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:34.480 report so you know those things did not exist 00:13:34.480 --> 00:13:37.500 in real time but those are things are in the 00:13:37.500 --> 00:13:40.779 police report. Okay. So I was reading that Fox 00:13:40.779 --> 00:13:43.779 10 had published an article saying that law enforcement 00:13:43.779 --> 00:13:46.080 claimed that Daniel was acting strangely a couple 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:48.179 days prior to the incident, to his disappearance, 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:50.840 and that he loved this woman who he barely knew. 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:53.600 But you're saying that's false, correct? That 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:55.799 is false. My son had never used the word love. 00:13:55.960 --> 00:13:58.080 Like I said, everything they heard about the 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:00.500 young lady was brought up. They believe it was 00:14:00.500 --> 00:14:03.019 my daughter at the time. But saying that she 00:14:03.019 --> 00:14:05.220 gave him a podcast, that's what it pretty much 00:14:05.220 --> 00:14:08.460 started off from. And also I can elaborate on 00:14:08.460 --> 00:14:10.000 that with law enforcement. We're trying to get 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:11.980 them all the information we can that I did speak 00:14:11.980 --> 00:14:14.500 to my son two days prior. And we had a conversation 00:14:14.500 --> 00:14:16.440 about the young lady. Matter of fact, it's not 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:18.580 just one young lady that my son spent the night 00:14:18.580 --> 00:14:21.340 that night with, it's two. there. For whatever 00:14:21.340 --> 00:14:23.159 reason, law enforcement is hiding the second 00:14:23.159 --> 00:14:24.960 person. But yes, it was definitely two ladies 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:27.779 there with him, but never did Daniel express 00:14:27.779 --> 00:14:30.480 any love. He never was depressed and things like 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:31.899 that. So when I hear that in law enforcement 00:14:31.899 --> 00:14:34.620 assessment, it's problematic for a father. I'm 00:14:34.620 --> 00:14:37.379 a single parent of my son, and I know him a lot. 00:14:37.820 --> 00:14:40.500 I know his mood. For those two days prior to 00:14:40.500 --> 00:14:43.120 that, he was never in a mood of depression or 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:45.600 anything like that. Okay. David, what is the 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:47.860 Buckeye Police Department doing now? I heard 00:14:47.860 --> 00:14:50.419 that they partnered with America County Sheriff's 00:14:50.419 --> 00:14:52.899 Office, the Tempe Police Department, are they 00:14:52.899 --> 00:14:55.259 still offering you assistance or what's happening 00:14:55.259 --> 00:14:57.799 today on the case? Well, you know, I hate to 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:01.080 sound like I'm very critical, but that's been 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:03.379 happening for over two years now. There's no 00:15:03.379 --> 00:15:06.440 communication with Maricopa, Tempe, and Buckeye. 00:15:06.559 --> 00:15:09.139 The only communication they have is the two, 00:15:09.379 --> 00:15:12.919 Maricopa and Tempe, siding with Buckeye. As in, 00:15:12.919 --> 00:15:15.679 it's a Buckeye case. Maricopa County is resisting 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:18.559 to help in Daniel's case. And when I say resisting, 00:15:18.570 --> 00:15:20.629 existing, being that they are Maricopa County. 00:15:20.909 --> 00:15:23.730 My son was missing in Maricopa County. The county 00:15:23.730 --> 00:15:26.950 supersedes any city department, but yet they 00:15:26.950 --> 00:15:28.889 did not want to take on to the case, as well 00:15:28.889 --> 00:15:31.009 as Tempe. My son was a resident of Tempe at the 00:15:31.009 --> 00:15:33.230 time. Tempe, like I said, offered assistance 00:15:33.230 --> 00:15:35.649 to me directly. They said, hey, Mr. Russell, 00:15:35.669 --> 00:15:38.190 we're doing this as a favor to you to do those 00:15:38.190 --> 00:15:41.409 forensics on that electronics. But outside of 00:15:41.409 --> 00:15:43.250 that, of course, they shared it with the Buckeye 00:15:43.250 --> 00:15:44.850 Police Department because they're saying, again, 00:15:45.029 --> 00:15:47.409 it's a Buckeye Police Department case. And with 00:15:47.409 --> 00:15:49.710 that, not much has been done in my son's case. 00:15:49.809 --> 00:15:52.590 I'm still fighting for the proper forensics on 00:15:52.590 --> 00:15:55.009 that vehicle. I'm holding that vehicle. I'm paying 00:15:55.009 --> 00:15:57.590 thousands of dollars on that vehicle to hold 00:15:57.590 --> 00:16:00.190 house forensics. I have the airbags that have 00:16:00.190 --> 00:16:02.490 never been processed. I have the clothing that 00:16:02.490 --> 00:16:04.629 never been processed. You know, you name it. 00:16:04.669 --> 00:16:06.710 I have all the things inside of Daniel's apartment 00:16:06.710 --> 00:16:08.529 that haven't been processed. The information 00:16:08.529 --> 00:16:11.450 about the computer that I was in. All the evidence 00:16:11.450 --> 00:16:13.269 that we know about Daniel's case came from my 00:16:13.269 --> 00:16:15.850 own investigation and my efforts outside of law 00:16:15.850 --> 00:16:19.029 enforcement. OK, so when it seems like they refuse 00:16:19.029 --> 00:16:23.409 to help, what is their narrative now? Since they 00:16:23.409 --> 00:16:26.409 believe that you said that he had Daniel had 00:16:26.409 --> 00:16:29.240 a head injury when he had an accident in the 00:16:29.240 -->

00:16:32.879 car and went to the sunroof that he just disappeared 00:16:32.879 --> 00:16:35.460 in the desert. Is that what they're saying? Yes, 00:16:35.700 --> 00:16:38.620 that's the gist of it. You know, he's pretty 00:16:38.620 --> 00:16:41.100 much the way I would take it as a family is that, 00:16:41.139 --> 00:16:43.039 you know, they feel that he staged the whole 00:16:43.039 --> 00:16:44.279 thing. Well, you know, he did the whole thing 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:46.779 himself. You know, he masterminded it. He decided 00:16:46.779 --> 00:16:50.019 to leave or he ended up deceased out there in 00:16:50.019 --> 00:16:51.539 the desert, which I told you we covered over 00:16:51.539 --> 00:16:54.480 35 ,000 acres of land out there line searching. 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:57.440 Area search, everything you can name. I even 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:00.259 used cadaver dogs myself, you know, that I hired 00:17:00.259 --> 00:17:02.519 myself. We found other human remains, but never 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:05.259 found Daniel. But what they have a stand for 00:17:05.259 --> 00:17:07.839 right now from day one before the vehicle showed 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:09.859 up, you know, law enforcement. Well, once the 00:17:09.859 --> 00:17:11.559 vehicle showed up, I want to backtrack on that. 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:13.220 Once the vehicle showed up, law enforcement has 00:17:13.220 --> 00:17:15.700 always have the reservation that the vehicle 00:17:15.700 --> 00:17:17.680 was there in that ravine for 30 days, despite 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:19.920 the rancher who's an eyewitness saying it wasn't 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:22.420 there two days prior. And in spite of the evidence, 00:17:22.500 --> 00:17:25.180 my investigator gave law enforcement there. pushing 00:17:25.180 --> 00:17:27.640 this 30 -day narrative that the vehicle's out 00:17:27.640 --> 00:17:29.759 there for 30 days for whatever reason they want 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:32.279 it there. So now they're basing their beliefs 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:36.359 on what is called a mild IQ app that I gave to 00:17:36.359 --> 00:17:38.099 law enforcement that I found on my son's phone. 00:17:38.299 --> 00:17:41.460 And one of the owners of the app would tell law 00:17:41.460 --> 00:17:43.480 enforcement not to utilize that app for that 00:17:43.480 --> 00:17:46.019 purpose because it's inaccurate, it's not always 00:17:46.019 --> 00:17:48.740 reliable, but yet because it helped them put 00:17:48.740 --> 00:17:51.390 that vehicle there for 30 days there. They're 00:17:51.390 --> 00:17:53.369 basing their whole investigation on that. So 00:17:53.369 --> 00:17:56.390 they're saying that the app tracked the vehicle 00:17:56.390 --> 00:17:58.509 and the vehicle had been sitting there for 30 00:17:58.509 --> 00:18:00.730 days in the ravine? Well, yes. They say they 00:18:00.730 --> 00:18:03.049 tracked the vehicle to be in that ravine at, 00:18:03.130 --> 00:18:04.869 I believe it was a little after 10 o 'clock that 00:18:04.869 --> 00:18:07.430 morning that Daniel went missing. But mind you, 00:18:07.490 --> 00:18:10.480 like I said, there was one search that... law 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:12.819 enforcement did themselves with Silver Air Patrol. 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:14.740 That's what they called these guys was on the 00:18:14.740 --> 00:18:16.680 ground. And they went over the area. The vehicle 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:18.799 wasn't there. They later said, well, maybe they 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:20.900 missed it because the heavy brush, but there's 00:18:20.900 --> 00:18:23.640 no brush out there. Also, I've been before the 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:25.500 vehicle showed up out there. I had people on 00:18:25.500 --> 00:18:27.759 the ground doing my searches, hundreds of people 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:29.819 at a time doing searches out there in that area 00:18:29.819 --> 00:18:32.619 as well. What we call is a hasty search. People 00:18:32.619 --> 00:18:34.960 going out hiking, just looking for things. for 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:36.859 hours and the vehicle wasn't there. So you put 00:18:36.859 --> 00:18:39.119 all those things there together, plus the evidence 00:18:39.119 --> 00:18:42.009 my investigator found. that a vehicle was staged 00:18:42.009 --> 00:18:44.950 in that spot. You know, the vehicle wasn't there. 00:18:45.089 --> 00:18:48.569 Okay, so basically their timeline is that he 00:18:48.569 --> 00:18:51.349 was last seen around 9 .15 on June 23rd, and 00:18:51.349 --> 00:18:53.450 then they believe that the car ended up in the 00:18:53.450 --> 00:18:56.109 ravine 45 minutes later, around 10 o 'clock, 00:18:56.289 --> 00:18:58.730 and stayed there for 30 days. That's correct. 00:18:58.890 --> 00:19:01.750 And the problematic with that is that I also 00:19:01.750 --> 00:19:03.950 gave this to law enforcement. Everything I have, 00:19:03.990 --> 00:19:06.650 I gave it to law enforcement. On my son's phone, 00:19:06.849 --> 00:19:09.750 once law enforcement gave me his phone back on 00:19:09.750 --> 00:19:14.009 the 23rd of July, what I found was that the memory 00:19:14.009 --> 00:19:16.670 card was missing. His location was wiped from 00:19:16.670 --> 00:19:18.869 the phone. The information about the young lady 00:19:18.869 --> 00:19:21.130 was wiped from the phone. There's certain things, 00:19:21.170 --> 00:19:23.490 everything else was intact, but certain areas 00:19:23.490 --> 00:19:27.240 was missing. The only thing that's very much 00:19:27.240 --> 00:19:30.019 contradicts the last person that's seen my son. 00:19:30.140 --> 00:19:32.480 He said, hey, my son met him out of Sun Valley 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:35.579 Parkway. He and my son talked for a brief moment. 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:38.460 They rolled into the desert one mile west, two 00:19:38.460 --> 00:19:40.359 miles north to make it to this well site. They 00:19:40.359 --> 00:19:42.960 made it there at 9 o 'clock. At 9 .15, my son 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:45.119 was gone. He waved off to

him and just disappeared 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:48.079 forever. The problem with that is that on my 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:50.920 son's phone, you know, the phone record shows 00:19:50.920 --> 00:19:53.819 that my son made a phone call at 928 to him that 00:19:53.819 --> 00:19:56.519 he did not answer. My son was asking for directions 00:19:56.519 --> 00:19:59.359 and a text message. But those things that law 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:01.880 enforcement know, but still hanging a hat on 00:20:01.880 --> 00:20:04.240 the story of the person who let's say he let's 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:06.559 see my son. So it's all those kind of evidence 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:09.220 that's there. Law enforcement have their reason 00:20:09.220 --> 00:20:12.599 for keeping their narrative strong to the public. 00:20:12.660 --> 00:20:15.500 But it defies anything else, defies the logic. 00:20:15.849 --> 00:20:17.609 files the evidence and everything that was found 00:20:17.609 --> 00:20:20.150 from my my personal investigation to my son's 00:20:20.150 --> 00:20:22.750 disappearance okay so let me ask you you have 00:20:22.750 --> 00:20:26.230 the uh please help find daniel .com daniel robertson 00:20:26.230 --> 00:20:28.589 foundation when did you launch that when did 00:20:28.589 --> 00:20:31.779 you uh when did you launch that for daniel to 00:20:31.779 --> 00:20:33.880 getting his information out there? Yeah, first 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:36.380 of all, I'm a military guy. I'm retired military. 00:20:36.759 --> 00:20:39.119 One thing for sure, when we're in the military, 00:20:39.279 --> 00:20:41.619 communication is key for anything. Once I got 00:20:41.619 --> 00:20:44.519 to Arizona, I talked to law enforcement, see 00:20:44.519 --> 00:20:46.359 what they will and would not do. I knew it was 00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:48.460 crucial to get information out quickly about 00:20:48.460 --> 00:20:50.859 my son. One of those things was open up social 00:20:50.859 --> 00:20:54.539 media pages, Instagram, Facebook, you name it. 00:20:54.599 --> 00:20:57.359 And the second thing was to open up a bill website. 00:20:57.519 --> 00:21:00.920 So to start a website, a family website for people. 00:21:00.940 --> 00:21:03.319 to get information about my son's case. They 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:05.460 have a base to go to so I can throw pictures. 00:21:05.940 --> 00:21:08.539 A lot of times being a person of color, you know, 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:11.140 I realized quickly without knowing statistics 00:21:11.140 --> 00:21:12.900 at the time, I didn't know anything about the 00:21:12.900 --> 00:21:15.740 disparities. But I do know being a black man 00:21:15.740 --> 00:21:18.680 that we have to sometimes humanize our person. 00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:20.900 And so to do that, I had to build a website. 00:21:21.059 --> 00:21:23.720 Please help find Dan dot com. That was to put 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:26.740 all his pictures up to humanize my son. And he's 00:21:26.740 --> 00:21:29.500 very loved those type things. Also, I opened 00:21:29.500 --> 00:21:32.019 up another second website is search for Dan dot 00:21:32.019 --> 00:21:35.380 org. Once I started my searches, that was strictly 00:21:35.380 --> 00:21:38.630 for the search. But now they both are grafted 00:21:38.630 --> 00:21:40.849 into one. And that's PleaseHelpFindDaniel .com. 00:21:41.069 --> 00:21:43.009 Okay. What do you think happened to your son? 00:21:43.309 --> 00:21:45.910 Well, you know, without evidence, I can't say. 00:21:46.069 --> 00:21:48.730 No foul play happened. I can put it straightforward 00:21:48.730 --> 00:21:51.470 as that based on what my investigator gave me 00:21:51.470 --> 00:21:53.190 and the information that we have. But we just 00:21:53.190 --> 00:21:55.849 don't know what that exactly means. Foul play 00:21:55.849 --> 00:21:57.329 can mean a lot of things, but we know that's 00:21:57.329 --> 00:21:59.009 not natural. The vehicle wasn't there. It was 00:21:59.009 --> 00:22:01.329 a stage event. We know that something happened 00:22:01.329 --> 00:22:04.250 with that vehicle. It's been another location. 00:22:04.309 --> 00:22:06.029 It came in contact with some things. We know 00:22:06.029 --> 00:22:07.990 about. the apartment. We know about the eyewitness 00:22:07.990 --> 00:22:10.349 account that I have myself that I gave law enforcement 00:22:10.349 --> 00:22:13.309 also a vehicle that looked just like his. We 00:22:13.309 --> 00:22:15.869 also know the vehicle that disappeared off the 00:22:15.869 --> 00:22:17.710 roadway that looked like Daniel's and ended up 00:22:17.710 --> 00:22:20.299 two days later. Law enforcement say the vehicle 00:22:20.299 --> 00:22:22.500 was found in the desert with the rancher. But 00:22:22.500 --> 00:22:24.900 what I saw is a lot of the evidence that says 00:22:24.900 --> 00:22:26.579 foul play. But like I said, I don't know what 00:22:26.579 --> 00:22:28.440 foul play happened, what it means. It could mean 00:22:28.440 --> 00:22:30.200 that he could be because, you know, that is a 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:32.859 high human trafficking area. Everybody know Phoenix, 00:22:33.019 --> 00:22:35.500 Arizona, especially as a high human trafficking 00:22:35.500 --> 00:22:39.279 area. And so, you know, God forbid Daniel got 00:22:39.279 --> 00:22:42.180 tied up into that. You also have the mules that 00:22:42.180 --> 00:22:44.440 come through that part of the desert, according 00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:46.720 to Chief Hall at the time. But, you know, we 00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:48.339 don't hope he didn't get in contact with. those 00:22:48.339 --> 00:22:50.440 type deals. And also the fact that because we 00:22:50.440 --> 00:22:52.940 don't know what happened, maybe as we do know, 00:22:52.980 --> 00:22:54.400 that's going to happen somewhere else. Somebody 00:22:54.400 --> 00:22:56.579 took that vehicle and joyride it. I don't know. 00:22:56.660 --> 00:22:58.900 And, you know, Dan's out there somewhere. Don't 00:22:58.900

--> 00:23:00.259 know who he is or something, you know? So I look 00:23:00.259 --> 00:23:02.319 at all those possibilities and just know that 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:04.579 some type of foul play happened, but just don't 00:23:04.579 --> 00:23:07.660 know exactly, you know. the status of my son. 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:10.759 Okay. So do you believe that your son is still 00:23:10.759 --> 00:23:13.059 alive? Yes, I do. And I have to, I have to believe 00:23:13.059 --> 00:23:14.839 that that's what keep me going. I'm a man of 00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:17.319 faith. So of course, for me, he used to think 00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:19.599 negative about my son. You know, I really feel 00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:22.460 that it's only a matter of time and place that 00:23:22.460 --> 00:23:24.279 I will find out what happened. I can rescue my 00:23:24.279 --> 00:23:26.400 son and bring him back home to his mother, his 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:29.109 siblings, his grandparents. his friends, to myself. 00:23:29.450 --> 00:23:32.910 Okay. All right. And I understand at one point 00:23:32.910 --> 00:23:35.549 you might still have a GoFundMe page that you 00:23:35.549 --> 00:23:38.950 had to pay for private investigator services. 00:23:39.349 --> 00:23:41.589 Do you still have that up and running? Yes, my 00:23:41.589 --> 00:23:45.349 GoFundMe page is still up. However, I focus more 00:23:45.349 --> 00:23:49.569 on the aspects of people asking for flyers. Flyers 00:23:49.569 --> 00:23:53.230 is free to the public. People can always go out 00:23:53.230 --> 00:23:55.349 and request that on pleasehelpfinddane .com. 00:23:55.589 --> 00:23:57.329 They also can print. I look at that as a form. 00:23:57.390 --> 00:23:59.670 a donation because there's a print button there 00:23:59.670 --> 00:24:01.029 as well. If you want to print the flyers out 00:24:01.029 --> 00:24:03.690 yourself, that helps. Also, I have a mail -in 00:24:03.690 --> 00:24:05.650 protest to keep my son, Case, from cold case 00:24:05.650 --> 00:24:08.009 status. As long as the public is involved in 00:24:08.009 --> 00:24:09.549 Dan's case, as long as the interest is there. 00:24:10.250 --> 00:24:11.910 It'd be hard for law enforcement to call it a 00:24:11.910 --> 00:24:14.109 cold case when people are constantly asking about 00:24:14.109 --> 00:24:17.170 Daniel. So they can go join the protesting, the 00:24:17.170 --> 00:24:20.069 mail -in protest, that call. So as you know, 00:24:20.069 --> 00:24:21.410 you have to put stamps and you have to print. 00:24:21.829 --> 00:24:23.730 So that's a form of donation. That's what I'm 00:24:23.730 --> 00:24:26.470 asking the public to do. Also support me and 00:24:26.470 --> 00:24:28.849 my congressional run because that's going to 00:24:28.849 --> 00:24:31.789 help families that I'm trying to get legislations 00:24:31.789 --> 00:24:34.269 changed. You know, get information in real time 00:24:34.269 --> 00:24:36.170 for families who need that information quickly. 00:24:36.670 --> 00:24:38.690 Utilizing the technologies that we have today 00:24:38.690 --> 00:24:41.049 that we get. answers really fast so if people 00:24:41.049 --> 00:24:43.430 go to please help find daniel .com they'll be 00:24:43.430 --> 00:24:46.490 able to uh donate if they want to be able to 00:24:46.490 --> 00:24:49.450 print out flyers for your son all that information 00:24:49.450 --> 00:24:52.210 is available on on that website in order for 00:24:52.210 --> 00:24:55.529 them to do that yes sir it is okay and you talked 00:24:55.529 --> 00:24:58.450 about your you just talked about your run for 00:24:58.450 --> 00:25:01.490 congress and i understand that you you said you're 00:25:01.490 --> 00:25:04.309 a veteran and you served in the gandhisan war 00:25:04.309 --> 00:25:08.430 after 9 -11 uh i saw in your platform or you 00:25:08.750 --> 00:25:12.170 Your campaign focuses on defending our democracy, 00:25:12.589 --> 00:25:15.750 championing civil rights, empowering voters, 00:25:15.990 --> 00:25:20.109 promoting reproductive rights, combating climate 00:25:20.109 --> 00:25:22.269 change, supporting the middle class, ensuring 00:25:22.269 --> 00:25:27.069 workplace equality, advancing education, building 00:25:27.069 --> 00:25:29.269 safe communities, addressing health care costs, 00:25:29.430 --> 00:25:32.609 and reforming missing persons policies. Did I 00:25:32.609 --> 00:25:34.650 get all that correct? Yes, you did. I really 00:25:34.650 --> 00:25:38.329 appreciate that. Okay. What would you change 00:25:38.329 --> 00:25:40.890 in the reforming of missing person policies if 00:25:40.890 --> 00:25:43.549 you were elected into Congress for South Carolina? 00:25:43.789 --> 00:25:45.910 Yes. One thing, I am running out of South Carolina 00:25:45.910 --> 00:25:48.150 Congressional District 2. But, you know, being 00:25:48.150 --> 00:25:50.869 in Congress affects all of America. And, you 00:25:50.869 --> 00:25:54.130 know, my son went missing. Of course, that's 00:25:54.130 --> 00:25:55.970 passionate for a parent. I'm out there in the 00:25:55.970 --> 00:25:58.650 desert working tirelessly with hundreds of volunteers 00:25:58.650 --> 00:26:01.130 every week out there working with me in that 00:26:01.130 --> 00:26:04.269 desert heat. I grew a passion and part of my 00:26:04.269 --> 00:26:06.369 family. I call them my extended family to help. 00:26:06.410 --> 00:26:08.549 them find their loved one as well. I've been 00:26:08.549 --> 00:26:11.750 a very advocate for missing Americans in general 00:26:11.750 --> 00:26:13.869 and making sure that I did everything I can from 00:26:13.869 --> 00:26:16.289 having a day of remembrance to kind of like visuals. 00:26:16.509 --> 00:26:19.089 Anything I can do to help families get awareness 00:26:19.089 --> 00:26:21.150 and people get awareness about their missing 00:26:21.150 --> 00:26:24.029 cases. One thing that I had learned while I was 00:26:24.029 --> 00:26:26.490 searching for my son is the

fact that I'm still 00:26:26.490 --> 00:26:29.049 looking for cell phone pings that were really 00:26:29.049 --> 00:26:31.829 better than that MileIQ app that law enforcement 00:26:31.829 --> 00:26:34.869 is relying on. It's something that we, it's a 00:26:34.869 --> 00:26:37.490 tool that we use using 224, but I'm being hindered 00:26:37.490 --> 00:26:39.890 because law enforcement refusing to call Dane's 00:26:39.890 --> 00:26:43.170 case what it is, a criminal case. And without 00:26:43.170 --> 00:26:46.069 it being status of a criminal case, a judge would 00:26:46.069 --> 00:26:48.309 not give a warrant to get those cell phone ping 00:26:48.309 --> 00:26:51.970 data. But now, it has been so long, the company 00:26:51.970 --> 00:26:55.630 is saying there's no retention, data's gone forever. 00:26:55.890 --> 00:26:58.430 That is a problem. Yes, we know that nothing 00:26:58.430 --> 00:27:01.289 ever disappears once it's digital, but companies 00:27:01.289 --> 00:27:05.099 hide behind their policies. that says they would 00:27:05.099 --> 00:27:07.180 not give families that data. Their loved one 00:27:07.180 --> 00:27:08.839 could miss without a warrant. And also their 00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:11.720 retention is not there. So I told the telecommunication 00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:14.380 companies, when I had meetings with them, AT 00:27:14.380 --> 00:27:16.400 &T, T -Mobile, you name all of them, with the 00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:18.559 senators in Arizona, told them that we'll be 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:20.359 back. We'll be back because what's happening 00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:24.660 is we have those policies in place when those 00:27:24.660 --> 00:27:27.200 data belong to the person who paid that bill 00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:29.160 every month. You got a cell phone, you utilize 00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:31.519 your phone, it do not belong to the company. 00:27:31.619 --> 00:27:33.279 You pay the service for that. that phone, the 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:36.759 service for that use of your data to make a phone 00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:38.640 call, to text message, you name it. All that 00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:40.500 belongs to you. And so I want to make sure we 00:27:40.500 --> 00:27:42.839 free up that for the families through law enforcement 00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:45.660 where there's no warrant needed to get that data. 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:47.700 And also the fact that we know that things don't 00:27:47.700 --> 00:27:51.240 disappear digitally. Telecommunications are required 00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:54.880 to keep a retention not for 30 days. What we've 00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:57.359 seen in this case here, but to make sure that 00:27:57.359 --> 00:27:59.480 families are getting the data and the information 00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:01.880 they need in real time and also help law enforcement. 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:04.920 Okay. You briefly touched on you branching out 00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:07.380 and you helping other people with missing family 00:28:07.380 --> 00:28:11.980 members. And I think that's a very positive and 00:28:11.980 --> 00:28:15.220 outstanding thing to do. Is that something that 00:28:15.220 --> 00:28:17.660 you think that... Daniel would have wanted for 00:28:17.660 --> 00:28:20.599 you to do? Yes, I know that. My son, he's an 00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:23.980 advocate for what's right. Of course, for my 00:28:23.980 --> 00:28:26.519 family, who we all are, we believe in people. 00:28:26.619 --> 00:28:28.960 He's a person that do everything he can to do 00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:31.380 what's right. I remember before he went missing, 00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:33.940 the last thing he done actively was the George 00:28:33.940 --> 00:28:37.160 Floyd protest. He was there. He called me. Like 00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:38.880 I said, we have our conversation. I was on the 00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:40.779 phone with him while he was out there protesting. 00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:43.740 He actually even did a news interview. I told 00:28:43.740 --> 00:28:46.059 him I wish I was there with him. I know what 00:28:46.059 --> 00:28:48.420 Daniel stands for, what's right and what's just. 00:28:48.579 --> 00:28:50.640 And, you know, the fact that even though he's 00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:52.940 missing, you know, I tell people all the time, 00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:55.579 if I found Daniel, that work was not in, you 00:28:55.579 --> 00:28:57.779 know, I found my son and somehow I decided to 00:28:57.779 --> 00:28:59.980 just disappear and don't help other families 00:28:59.980 --> 00:29:03.000 if I can. And Daniel would be by my side. That's 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:04.880 the person he is. That's the way our family is. 00:29:05.019 --> 00:29:07.380 And I know that that's exactly what Daniel would 00:29:07.380 --> 00:29:09.259 want. Okay. I should have asked you this earlier, 00:29:09.380 --> 00:29:13.579 but can you tell me, I know that you just told 00:29:13.579 --> 00:29:15.900 me what Daniel. stands for. Can you just tell 00:29:15.900 --> 00:29:18.640 me a little bit about Daniel, the person he was, 00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:21.940 about just in general, what you think the public 00:29:21.940 --> 00:29:24.460 needs to know about Daniel, who he is? Yeah, 00:29:24.500 --> 00:29:28.720 Daniel, he's the youngest of his siblings from 00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:31.940 my marriage. He's a person that I tell often 00:29:31.940 --> 00:29:35.200 that he challenges himself as much as he challenges 00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:37.980 others. Everything he decided to do, he accomplished 00:29:37.980 --> 00:29:40.480 that. We all know that Daniel was born without 00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:42.259 a right hand, but that never stopped him from 00:29:42.259 --> 00:29:45.440 anything he wanted to do. his young life after 00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:47.140 he asked his mother once about what happened 00:29:47.140 --> 00:29:49.259 to his hand she told him guy having to return 00:29:49.259 --> 00:29:51.220 it to him one day he just needed it he never

00:29:51.220 --> 00:29:53.160 asked that again he taught himself how to play 00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:56.039 the french horn on his own he did so well that 00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:58.559 he even made the local news here in south carolina 00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:00.819 about how great he is playing the french horn 00:30:00.819 --> 00:30:03.200 he started off with playing next went to the 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.380 trumpet and played other instruments and also 00:30:06.380 --> 00:30:08.460 tried to dabble in a little bit of sport so anything 00:30:08.460 --> 00:30:10.940 he wanted to do he'd go after it he had the siblings 00:30:10.940 --> 00:30:13.470 his older brother to look up all the My children 00:30:13.470 --> 00:30:16.470 are scientists. And he looked up to his older 00:30:16.470 --> 00:30:18.630 brother and challenged that and did it to be 00:30:18.630 --> 00:30:20.369 better. So once he got to college, of course, 00:30:20.430 --> 00:30:23.450 joined, decided to do geology. He fell in love 00:30:23.450 --> 00:30:25.730 with it in his freshman year and went ahead with 00:30:25.730 --> 00:30:28.970 it. Graduated with honors. Very friendly person 00:30:28.970 --> 00:30:31.829 because when he was in college, he, I mean, you 00:30:31.829 --> 00:30:34.109 know, he pretty much come from a home where the 00:30:34.109 --> 00:30:36.789 parents, where I kind of pretty much kept him 00:30:36.789 --> 00:30:38.589 from certain things. I made sure he was in the 00:30:38.589 --> 00:30:41.089 right schools, him and his siblings. But when 00:30:41.089 --> 00:30:43.349 he got to college and he got on it, He had tons 00:30:43.349 --> 00:30:46.430 of friends. He's a very friendly person. So he 00:30:46.430 --> 00:30:48.210 brings people together. I'm in the family life, 00:30:48.269 --> 00:30:50.289 the same thing. We have any kind of strife in 00:30:50.289 --> 00:30:52.670 our family, Daniel's always in the gap. He's 00:30:52.670 --> 00:30:55.890 the one which will bend and bring people together. 00:30:56.269 --> 00:30:58.190 He has an entrepreneurial spirit. Once he graduated 00:30:58.190 --> 00:31:01.349 from college, he wanted to go out and venture 00:31:01.349 --> 00:31:04.170 to learn about other cultures and things like 00:31:04.170 --> 00:31:06.630 that. So he had the entrepreneurial spirit to 00:31:06.630 --> 00:31:08.609 start his own business, does his plans, going 00:31:08.609 --> 00:31:11.170 forward once he left Matrix New World to live 00:31:11.170 --> 00:31:13.839 in California. for him to live abroad. He wanted 00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:15.779 to be a millionaire before he's 30 years old. 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.440 So Daniel has a person, he's a person that are 00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:21.279 always positive. He talks about positive things. 00:31:21.380 --> 00:31:23.460 So is it really, he's a family oriented person. 00:31:23.779 --> 00:31:25.700 I'll give you an example real quick. During the 00:31:25.700 --> 00:31:27.240 COVID time, you know, we didn't, we was unsure 00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:30.380 about what COVID really is at the time. Daniel 00:31:30.380 --> 00:31:32.680 traveled just to see his grandparents here in 00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:34.619 South Carolina. He's staying outside the window. 00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:37.240 because we didn't know about exposure. He'd stand 00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:38.700 outside the window just to see his grandparents 00:31:38.700 --> 00:31:40.359 through the window. That's the kind of person 00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:42.700 that's going to come to family. So he would never 00:31:42.700 --> 00:31:45.319 desire to be away from his family. But, you know, 00:31:45.339 --> 00:31:47.960 that's the character of Daniel. Like I say, he's 00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:50.519 a very brilliant scientist and he's very loved. 00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:53.420 OK, David, is there anything else that we need 00:31:53.420 --> 00:31:56.819 to know about his disappearance or that you want 00:31:56.819 --> 00:32:00.240 to share about your run for Congress that we 00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:02.619 didn't cover? We need to keep attention on my 00:32:02.619 --> 00:32:05.460 son's case, not just my case, Daniel's case, 00:32:05.500 --> 00:32:08.150 but. Also, other families, I tell people all 00:32:08.150 --> 00:32:10.630 the time, just pick a family a day or a week 00:32:10.630 --> 00:32:13.109 or whatever it may take to post on your social 00:32:13.109 --> 00:32:15.970 media. That's a lifeline for any family who have 00:32:15.970 --> 00:32:18.529 a missing loved one is to have someone to share, 00:32:18.529 --> 00:32:20.410 just to share the story. Not all of us is fortunate 00:32:20.410 --> 00:32:23.170 to get any kind of coverage of a missing loved 00:32:23.170 --> 00:32:25.890 one. It's over 500, 600 ,000 Americans go missing 00:32:25.890 --> 00:32:29.690 every year, over 3 ,500 a day, 2 ,000 of which 00:32:29.690 --> 00:32:32.359 are children. And we need to share a case. You 00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:33.880 know, that could be the lifeline, like I said, 00:32:33.900 --> 00:32:35.720 the difference between finding the person or 00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:37.940 not. And so we need to make sure we're doing 00:32:37.940 --> 00:32:41.079 that. My run for Congress is because of that. 00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:44.140 One of the biggest things about missing Americans, 00:32:44.299 --> 00:32:47.119 the 600 ,000, 40 percent of which are people 00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:49.640 of color, though black people, we make up only 00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:51.880 13 percent of population. We have 40 percent 00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:54.019 of all missing cases. So we need to make sure 00:32:54.019 --> 00:32:57.660 that this missing American crisis is put in the 00:32:57.660 --> 00:33:00.039 forefront. You know, it's something that's bigger 00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:02.740 than the opioids crisis. that we've been having 00:33:02.740 --> 00:33:04.759 for a few years. The missing American crisis 00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.380 has

been going on for decades, and we definitely 00:33:07.380 --> 00:33:10.519 need to bring attention and awareness to it as 00:33:10.519 --> 00:33:13.039 it should be. And so that's what my job is, running 00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:14.859 for Congress to make sure that happens. I make 00:33:14.859 --> 00:33:16.900 sure I'm doing everything I can to bring America's 00:33:16.900 --> 00:33:19.440 home. Also, being a military guy, I definitely 00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:21.960 have to look out for our Constitution, our freedom. 00:33:21.980 --> 00:33:24.599 I raised my right hand at MEPS in Fort Jess in 00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:26.819 South Carolina. Something that you do when you 00:33:26.819 --> 00:33:29.480 say you deserve in this country, defend the democracy, 00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:32.980 our way of life. Constitution, and it's something 00:33:32.980 --> 00:33:35.240 that don't end just because I retired. It's something 00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:37.819 I have to continue to do to the rest of my days. 00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:40.400 And I tend to do that. So thank you so much for 00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:42.240 helping me here to share. That's no problem. 00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:44.599 I just wanted to share some information about 00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:48.740 Daniel. He's African -American, 5 '8", 165 pounds. 00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:50.819 Is that correct? Yes, that's correct. Okay. And 00:33:50.819 --> 00:33:55.039 he was last seen on June 23rd, 2021. Where can 00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:57.359 they contact? Would they contact the Buckeye 00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:00.180 Police Department or would they go to your website 00:34:00.180 --> 00:34:02.579 if anybody has any information about Daniel? 00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:05.980 Yes, you can go to the website to utilize the 00:34:05.980 --> 00:34:08.519 tip line. I do pay for a tip line there. I wish 00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:10.300 I had a number on me right now, but to have the 00:34:10.300 --> 00:34:13.000 tip line you can find on the website, also on 00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:15.239 the flyers. I pay for that service 24 hours, 00:34:15.260 --> 00:34:17.340 seven days a week. Live operators take your call. 00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:19.179 You can remain anonymous. If you don't even want 00:34:19.179 --> 00:34:21.420 to talk to anybody, you still can remain anonymous. 00:34:21.500 --> 00:34:23.579 If you just text the word TILT to that number, 00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:25.739 a form will come up. Like I said, you can remain 00:34:25.739 --> 00:34:28.000 anonymous. Also, you can call the Buckeye Police 00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:31.039 Department if you cannot get in contact or be 00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:33.760 not able to get to that website to leave a TILT. 00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:35.559 Okay, I have the Buckeye Police Department number 00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:38.699 at 633. three, four, nine, six, four, one, one. 00:34:38.739 --> 00:34:42.219 And your website is please help find daniel .com. 00:34:42.380 --> 00:34:44.079 That's correct. Well, thank you very much for 00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:46.880 joining us today. Mr. Robertson, David Robertson, 00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:49.260 wish you well on your campaign board. Appreciate 00:34:49.260 --> 00:34:51.159 you being here. Yes. Thank you so much for all 00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:52.960 helping me. Have a good day. You too, sir. Thank 00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:53.079 you.