Interview with Maurice Moore: Acting, Health, and Living your best life after 50의 전체 녹취록

best, not just as an actor, but like just in the in the context of like how busy and how immersed you are in that field. 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:57.040 That that that's probably the number one reason I can do all of the things that you you just said, and I don't I don't mean that as a as a joke. 00:04:57.199 --> 00:05:03.439 Like it requires a lot of energy to be an actor, director, writer, and not that, oh, I got all this, I'm this guy. 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:06.639 It's my fitness helps my energy. 00:05:07.040 --> 00:05:09.120 And this is a sun-up to sundown job. 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:11.839 It's not not a nine to five, it doesn't ever end. 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:18.639 I work weekends, I shoot long hours, I'm I'm working with actors, I'm doing different things, I'm writing screenplays. 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:30.480 And if I don't wake up in the morning and go to the gym and get in my hour and a half, two hours of what I think my my my physical nutrition is, my days are shot. 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:34.720 Like my energy is low, I don't feel like doing certain things. 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:44.399 And so the gym is the one reason why I think I can do all of the things that I do consistently throughout the year with my work and my job, because it gives me the energy. 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:48.560 I like feeling good, I like feeling accomplished by nine o'clock in the morning. 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:52.800 I like knowing I've done more than what most people do in a whole day. 00:05:52.879 --> 00:06:00.240 And that feeds my energy, that makes me want to go out and push myself even harder in the field and in the industry and that kind of thing. 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:09.839 So um, and if I didn't have my gym workouts, like if it's taken away from me, um, or if we had to take a little time off because of a little bit of an injury, it drives me nuts, man. 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:10.879 It drives me nuts. 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:17.199 I want to, I want to be in there, it's it's motivating just to be able to do the things that we still can do at this age. 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:21.759 Yeah, and I think you know, the word I was thinking as you were talking about that is like it gives you an edge. 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:22.399 Absolutely. 00:06:22.560 --> 00:06:30.639 You know, and I think people that are competitive, people that are driven, like you should you nod your head because I you know I I'm pegging you here a little bit. 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:42.639 But yeah, like I mean, and that's part of the reason that you're able to be successful and able to have a career and not just kind of fade away, is that you you figured out your edge, you figured out how to nourish your body to get the best out of yourself. 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:43.279 Talk about that. 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:45.759 Yeah, you you've seen me in the gym, I've seen you in the gym. 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:47.120 You work really hard, dude. 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:52.720 And and I like to think I work really hard, and I have people come up to me because I do hit training in between like lifting and stuff. 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:56.319 People are going, dude, like do you ever stop moving? 00:06:56.480 --> 00:07:00.079 And and I don't because there is that competitive edge. 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:01.360 I'm incredibly competitive. 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:03.120 I you know, I was an athlete for a long time. 00:07:03.279 --> 00:07:05.680 I played football and basketball in high school and college. 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:13.199 When I watch sports now, I'm really competitive, and I I try to find ways that keeps me competitive, especially in my industry. 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:13.600 Yeah. 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:16.800 Um, and and so in the gym, it's kind of the same way. 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:18.720 I'm not trying to outdo someone else. 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:21.519 That's I don't I'm I don't have that kind of ego. 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:30.879 But for me, I don't like the idea of um being lazy or not pushing myself as as much as I possibly can. 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:44.319 And when I look back, I I got high school, I was a couple of days ago, I was looking at some high school reunion pictures and some stuff that was going on, and I got friends that I went to school with that looks older than me. 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:45.360 I'll say it like that. 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:49.120 It look a lot older than I do because they don't necessarily work out. 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:52.319 I don't mean this in a negative way, don't necessarily work out or eat a certain way. 00:07:52.480 --> 00:08:01.680 And I think you know, my fitness helps keep keeps me vibrant and gives me that energy and keeps me uh hopefully somewhat young looking and I feel that way. 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:08.000 And uh so when I'm in a gym and I see people like you and I see some of the other guys you say they're in there, I I want to keep up. 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:08.800 You know what I mean? 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:11.040 It's not being better than it's just I want to keep up. 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:15.600 It's like if those guys can do that, I gotta figure out ways that I can I can do that as well. 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:18.000 And it is a bit of an edge, and I I like it. 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:27.920 It it it it it gives me something to feel good about that type of accomplishment, which makes me then go into my my work and say, what else can I do today? 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:32.000 It really is that it's like if I can do this, what else can I can I do? 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:43.679 And in my industry, I'm always trying to find an edge, I'm always trying to find the right story and push the right narrative, and and there's a lot of competition in what I do in in the entire world. 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:51.679 The Academy Award nominations came out yesterday, and I'm competing with all of those individuals, and so I have to find the right idea and focus. 00:08:51.840 -->

00:08:54.639 And yeah, if it starts with me being in the gym. 00:08:54.960 --> 00:09:02.080 Yeah, and I you know, I love when people guys at the gym will come up to me and just be like, hey man, just like you inspire me. 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:12.559 You know, and it's not that I'm looking for the ego boost, I just I I realize it's it's nice to know that like the you know that you're getting noticed for the the work you're putting in. 00:09:12.720 --> 00:09:24.240 Like it's and and if somebody else is showing up going like I want to be more like him, then that's motivating to me because I know that like people are watching, people are being like they're getting better by by me being there, right? 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:26.559 And I think that's a cool, that's a cool aspect of it. 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:28.720 My company is called Motivate Pictures. 00:09:29.039 --> 00:09:33.039 Yeah, it's called that for a reason, 100% based on what you said. 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:46.639 Yeah, I have taken taken ownership of something that I don't have to do, but it kind of sort of happened naturally throughout my life, and I'm choosing to do, and that's kind of sort of been a motivator for certain people who need it. 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:56.320 I didn't ask for that, but for whatever reason throughout my life, people have come to me for advice or see me in the gym or some of the work that I do, and I'm with you a hundred percent. 00:09:56.480 --> 00:10:05.360 If somebody comes up to me and says, Hey, dude, uh last week I saw you in here and it inspired me to do this, then it's beautiful for me. 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:06.240 I like that's great. 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:17.919 But like you said, it's not because of my ego, it makes me go, I need to keep working harder, I need to keep doing this because somebody is seeing it, somebody's being influenced by something positive that I'm doing, yeah, and that is huge for me. 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:19.919 That is everything for me. 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:30.320 It's what I try to teach my daughter, and like I said, it's why I have the company name that I have, because that's a part of I think why I'm here and why I do what it is that I do. 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:34.159 Um, and I don't seek it out, I don't go, let me do it. 00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:36.399 It's there because of what I put in. 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:36.639 Right. 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:39.440 And if I put it in, then people get something from it. 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:40.480 Oh, it's real, it's real. 00:10:40.799 --> 00:10:41.360 People can feel that. 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:42.799 Like you're just out there grinding. 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:44.399 100%, 100%. 00:10:44.960 --> 00:10:53.279 And and I like the idea if they if they see that I'm working hard as opposed to just saying it or just trying to tell somebody something, but they actually see me doing it, yeah. 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:55.600 That's I think is even more powerful, right? 00:10:55.919 --> 00:10:59.600 Well, you're walking the walk and not just like out there like, this is what you actually do. 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:01.519 Exactly, exactly, exactly. 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:03.519 Well, now you you just mentioned it, yeah. 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:09.440 You you're a father, you have a production company, you're all you're doing so many things, and you're dealing with your fitness. 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:16.320 Like, how do you make it all like you know, you've got the family, the relationship, your wife, all those things. 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:22.159 You've got the all the things with work that you have to kind of keep keep managed, and you have your fitness. 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:29.039 Like, what I love is that how you've tied the fitness piece into the energy it takes to do all the others. 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:32.320 Like, like I think that's some one of the things that people have a hard time with. 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:44.720 If they're not exercising enough or not getting the the energy that it that it comes from being healthy, they they see the exercise piece as like something that's gonna pull energy away from the other parts of your life. 00:11:44.879 --> 00:11:47.759 Talk about how that they feel they fuel each other. 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:50.559 It's it it's it's that complete opposite for me. 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:50.960 Yeah. 00:11:51.440 --> 00:12:14.159 The the discipline and the consistency that it requires for me to be at the gym every day and up at six o'clock in the morning and at the gym between six thirty and seven o'clock, it it helps me then bring that type of consistency and discipline into my family, right, into my job, into everything else that I do. 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:19.360 Because I that is to me the most important thing when it comes to health and nutrition, anyway. 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:23.919 Like you, if you you have to be disciplined, you have to be consistent, because it's hard. 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:37.279 It requires a lot for people, and everybody's on different levels, and everybody has different goals that they have, and if they don't see results at a certain time, it can be easy to kind of slow down or push away because it requires that type of discipline and consistency. 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:46.399 If I can do that in my for myself, because that's my own individual need, for me to feel healthy, for me to feel strong, I need that consistency. 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:57.200 Well, once I'm able to do that and say I can do that for my individual self, then I can also give that then to my family and to my job and to the focuses that I the other focuses that I do have. 00:12:57.440 --> 00:13:06.879 It's when I don't have the consistency in the gym, it takes away from those other areas because in my mind I'm going, I'm not where I need to be, or I should have been better. 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:21.120 I don't feel healthy or strong, and so I'm gonna take away from you know what's

happening with my family, or I'm gonna eat whatever I want to eat for dinner as opposed to focusing on something that's really um more healthy and that that trickles down to the family. 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:26.799 So with my daughter, she's very she's 22 and she's very into fitness. 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:37.679 She was going to school initially for uh physical therapy and and and training, and then she went to um hairstyling and all those different things, and so now she's doing kind of both of them, yeah. 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:41.759 And that's because of stuff that her and I have been working on for a very long time. 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:47.120 Um, my family is is very, very um athletic and into the gym. 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:50.000 You've seen Jen and I work together in the gym. 00:13:50.320 --> 00:14:05.039 Um it's it's it's important to the consistency and health of my family that my my fitness is consistent in my daily life, and it all just fits together. 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:08.080 And then we can have conversations and dialogue about it. 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:20.240 You know, we can help each other, we can motivate and push each other as a family to understand what's good and not good and and what we should and shouldn't be doing, or when we can have cheat days and and have some fun doing those kinds of things too. 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:25.360 But more importantly, it gives us even more stuff to work towards and and and work together at. 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:26.240 Yeah. 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:38.399 So from what I've read and learned about you, you you didn't you grew up with not a lot in terms of you know, financial situation, that kind of stuff, small town in in North Carolina. 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:38.799 Yeah. 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:45.039 You have some amazing uh family members around you to teach you the great lessons and such. 00:14:45.279 --> 00:15:08.720 But coming so far and being you know who you are today and the things that you've learned, like what is your advice to people chasing things that that you know, money, fame, uh looks, those types of things, like versus like the more intrinsic motivators, health, uh, you know, a passion in your career, love and relationships. 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:13.120 Um I don't chase anything. 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:20.159 When you start chasing the money and the fame, and it then then your focus is is in the wrong place, in my opinion. 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:26.399 Yeah, do what you absolutely love and do what motivates you to get up every single morning. 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:28.399 I love going to the gym. 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:32.399 I love, even when it hurts, I love being in the gym. 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:36.720 So there's no amount of money one way or the other that that changes that for me. 00:15:36.879 --> 00:15:38.240 I do that for me. 00:15:38.559 --> 00:15:40.399 I love filmmaking. 00:15:40.639 --> 00:15:47.519 It is my passion, it is what I'm supposed to be doing, whether I'm good at it or not, it's what gets me up in the morning. 00:15:47.840 --> 00:15:56.320 I can't guarantee that I'm gonna make a million dollars, or I can't guarantee any of the actors that I work with that they're gonna be stars, I can't say we're gonna be famous. 00:15:56.480 --> 00:16:01.200 I do it because I love it, and whatever the results of that are the results of that. 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:13.120 So every day for me is more about the motivation of what makes me happy and what I'm supposed to be doing simply in my life to be the best human being I can possibly be. 00:16:13.200 --> 00:16:19.440 Yeah, and to be the best role model because it's there and I can't do anything about that, the best role model I can possibly be. 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:23.279 And then the results of that usually work out pretty good. 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:32.000 Good opportunities, good projects, feel good, good relationships, and that's the most important thing to me because I can't control all the other stuff. 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:44.720 But what I can control is me and what gets me out of bed every morning, and that's what I tell anybody who wants to know what's important to me and what they can be doing, just simply to be successful people. 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:54.720 And I say find a reason every morning to wake up that excites you, that you're willing to work hard for and to sacrifice for and not complain about. 00:16:55.360 --> 00:17:00.240 If you're doing those things, then everything else, in my opinion, will take care of itself. 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:00.720 Yeah. 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:04.960 Because you're willing to work hard enough for the success at that point in time. 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:11.839 So what if someone's response is, yeah, but I have this thing, I have this obstacle, you know. 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:19.920 I we're this is a society full of triggers and and things that we're can't talk about or that that send people into a panic. 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:31.759 Like talk about that durability or this the the mindset that you've developed to to really like show up every single day and not let the obstacles of life and and society get you down. 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:36.880 I've had lots of obstacles and as well as many other people. 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:46.799 Um the biggest thing about obstacles is sometimes people are fortunate when they don't know it, and I'm one of those people. 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:53.039 For example, I grew up incre incredibly poor and struggled a lot with a lot of things for a very, very long time. 00:17:53.599 --> 00:18:17.039 And I'm fortunate for that because it made me appreciate what working hard is, it made me appreciate earning certain things, it made me appreciate what I didn't have and not take that for granted, and made me appreciate anything that I'm able to acquire now isn't nearly as important as the love that I was surrounded by at the time that I didn't have any of those.

00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:29.279 And the challenges that I had to face or overcome to have even the smallest bit of success came from me believing that I can overcome any challenges that were there. 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:41.680 And the big thing for me when it comes to sharing with with any with other people is mostly about are we feeling sorry for ourselves, which I understand can happen, so I don't say that negatively. 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:46.720 And if we are, that's fine for a moment, but it's not gonna help us get to that next step. 00:18:46.799 --> 00:18:46.960 Right. 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:54.319 So we have to find a place within ourselves that says, this is hard, this is challenging, but I can do it. 00:18:55.039 --> 00:19:12.960 First, that becomes a self-belief and understanding that you can, because we all have a skill set or or um uh an understanding about who we are that we know that we're we're good at something, or something moves us, or there's something that we have a dream to do, and then everything else is so how do I do it? 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:23.920 And I was actually talking to my daughter today, and she was struggling with a couple of things that was happening with some friends, and people are in different places, so you can't tell somebody what they can and can't do. 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:35.359 But what you can start to do is understand if you want something, it's not simply the want, is what am I willing to do to accomplish it, right? 00:19:35.519 --> 00:19:42.240 Even when those obstacles are in the way, because it's very easy to say those obstacles are keeping me from doing this, and then you don't do it, right? 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:51.839 And then five months later, six months later, you're still in the same exact place before, and you're still complaining, and you're still upset, and you're still sad, and that's not doing anybody any good. 00:19:51.920 --> 00:19:52.000 Right. 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:55.519 But if you go, this may be hard, but I want to do this. 00:19:55.759 --> 00:20:10.960 So, how do I actually do it and start making a list of those things of how to accomplish it and a time frame that it may take, even if it says it's gonna take me a year to do this, then make the list of what it's gonna require, and then that year start putting those steps in place. 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:18.559 And that once you get beyond that, once you start putting those steps in place, those little, little baby steps, that's all it takes. 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:20.559 Little, no big changes right away. 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:29.519 Um I've heard you say something uh I think in one of your your shows before, where you talk about people who try to take on too much at one time, and it's hard to be. 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:31.039 I thought I was so connected to that. 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:32.799 I was like, man, he is absolutely right. 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:38.160 Because some of us want to do all these big things all at the

same time, and it's not possible. 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:45.039 And I think some of that comes from maybe watching social media and thinking everybody's done all these great things all at once. 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:47.039 It's not, it's all baby steps, man. 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:59.279 It's all one little step at a time, every day doing something a little bit more and a little bit more, yeah, showing those little bit of small successes, appreciating those small successes, giving yourself a little bit of something else to do. 00:20:59.519 --> 00:21:10.240 Um, otherwise, we find ourselves being victims and and playing that role, and sometimes that can get to be comfortable, but we never get anything out of it. 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:10.640 No. 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:20.559 And if a guy's listening to this and you're he's 40 and he sees you and be like, he it should he should expect that it would take 10 years. 00:21:20.720 --> 00:21:37.279 I mean, it's probably more, but let's, you know, like to put together the type of discipline, habits, and work ethic that it would take to become as fit as you are right now, what you know, about to walk into your 50s, you know, we we won't we want all that in in three months. 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:46.960 We want to fix everything because we get so down on all on all the things that we don't like about ourselves, we want to like immediately kind of emancipate ourselves from all these like bad habits. 00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:48.799 And it just doesn't, it doesn't work that way. 00:21:49.039 --> 00:22:01.440 It's it's not realistic and and it and I think most people probably know that, but because we want it and need it because we're so unhappy in certain areas of our life, it'd be nice if it just kind of feels Flip the switch. 00:22:01.519 --> 00:22:04.799 But I I say this all the time when it comes to especially fitness. 00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:17.759 Fitness is is is easy way to do an easy analogy for this, like you said, is if if if we don't look the way we want to look, it probably took us a long time to get to that point of not looking the way we want to look, right? 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:18.640 Didn't take a week. 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:19.680 It didn't take a week, right? 00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:22.480 We didn't just kind of fall out and go, hmm, man, it's not working. 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:27.440 No, we we it took us some time and years, probably in a big scheme of things. 00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:32.400 If we say, well, when I was 20, I looked like this, and now I'm 35, and that's 15 years. 00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:32.880 Yeah. 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:39.599 Well, if you're 35 and you go, I want to look like I did when I was 20 something, then it's going to require time. 00:22:39.759 --> 00:22:40.079 Yeah. 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:51.759 And if you can start with unlocking your brain to the point of being open to say, what I need to do will require time, that's the first major step. 00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:55.759 Because after that, you have to start applying that process. 00:22:55.839 --> 00:23:03.440 And that is a day-to-day, that's a minute to minute, hour to hour, day-to-day process that requires that time. 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:20.720 And then when you start seeing results, which could take a little of time to see the kind of results you're looking for, um, if you can stick it out long enough, and that's where the discipline and the consistency consistency comes into play, then you start to see those results, and that should be motivating enough to say, Oh, it's possible. 00:23:21.119 --> 00:23:21.359 Right. 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:24.400 Let me stick with it and keep going. 00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:24.960 Right. 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:27.200 And that's a beautiful thing. 00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:32.559 It just it's not as easy as as I'm making it sound, and I know that. 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:37.359 And some people don't see results in two weeks, and it makes it challenging for them. 00:23:37.920 --> 00:23:44.000 Well, uh the ease in your in your explanation is that you know it works if they just stay the course. 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:45.039 Stay the course, right? 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:46.000 Just yeah. 00:23:46.160 --> 00:23:52.480 It's not gonna take I always tell people, you know, it's gonna take longer than you want it to, and it's gonna be more rewarding than you ever thought. 00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:53.119 100%. 00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:54.960 It's a great way to think about it. 00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:55.519 100%. 00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:59.920 And I've seen that happen, and I know that you have, especially as a trainer, seen that happen. 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:09.200 And the the unfortunate part is um not everyone sticks to it because they they they they don't trust, or it's it's hard. 00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:10.240 And it is hard. 00:24:10.319 --> 00:24:11.119 It it is hard. 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:15.920 Well, and the there's the extrinsic, like, I want to look good, right? 00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:17.839 Like it's like we all want to look good naked, right? 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:19.440 That's that's a great motivator. 00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:28.799 And I'm I'm fine with people wanting to like fit in a dress or have you know muscular arms or whatever, like whatever external, extrinsic thing motivates you, great. 00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:49.200 But in the in the journey to get there, my job as a trainer and and your job as somebody going that down that journey is to develop the intrinsic habits so that when you get there, you're like, because if it's it's it's the like I lost 20 pounds to go on vacation and now I'm back and have no more motivation because I was only just trying to look good in my bathing suit for that period of time, right? 00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:56.400 But if you learned the process, if you develop the habits along the way, you come back from Cancun, you're like, I'm locked in. 00:24:56.559 --> 00:24:59.599 You know, I'm

not, I'm I'm still eating well, I'm still going to the gym. 00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:00.400 I love this life. 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:00.960 100%. 00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:04.880 Dude, I'm in Cancun going, okay, I can't have any carbs. 00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:10.079 What's on the menu of the I'm doing because especially now at the end. 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:17.440 I always like go, I'm like, I'm gonna put all the meat on the plate first, and then I'll like have a little section for like criteria carbs or something like that. 00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:26.480 Because I am like, you know, at this age, it's hard to come back from a little bit of weight gain or not being able to work out at the gym the way I want to. 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:30.640 Every place that I go to doesn't always have like a gym that really suits me. 00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:38.640 Yeah, so if my workouts get hard, so if I'm gone for a week, and and people say this all the time, like one of the worst things that fitness people can do is go on vacation. 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:38.960 Yeah. 00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:40.799 Because everything about their routine changes. 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:44.480 And and so I try to focus even when I'm there. 00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:47.920 So when I come back, I don't have so far to come back from. 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:50.160 And I'm not telling people don't go to Cancun and enjoy it. 00:25:50.480 --> 00:25:59.039 I'm saying me, I have it's more of a challenge for me to come back to the other side if I if I don't have at least some focus while I'm while I'm there. 00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:14.559 I think that's but that's like a you know, it sucks when you realize that like after 40 or like, you know, for me it was for like 44, 45 that it really kicked in that like this realization that like it's so much harder to get it to get back on the horse in a sense. 00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:20.319 But I think it also it it demands you have more real discipline. 00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:27.039 If you can rely on the fact that you are an athlete and you kind of like you can burn body fat pretty quickly when you like get back on track. 00:26:27.119 --> 00:26:35.279 Like I I leveraged that when I was in my 30s because I get a little fluffy and then I'd go back to the gym and I tighten up my diet, and it was like three weeks I was back. 00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:46.559 But but that wasn't the case in my 40s, or and so it really made me realize like I have to have better discipline and I have to have better habits that don't fall away, you know. 00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:58.240 And you because I because if you rely on like uh, you know, whether it's talent, again, it's like it's like it's like DNA, talent, like some something that you were like God given, sure, you know, being tall. 00:26:58.319 --> 00:27:00.799 You can hide fat on a tall body, I'm gonna tell you right now. 00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:01.440 Exactly. 00:27:01.599 --> 00:27:05.680 You know, and that's actually kind of interesting that you say that because I'm I'm relatively short. 00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:09.680 And even when I was an athlete in school, I was I was really fast, right? 00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:14.960 That was kind of my my thing, but I was never the biggest guy, and I certainly wasn't the tallest guy. 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:20.480 So I had to find other ways to stand out and to be successful. 00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:34.079 That required me to be disciplined, that required me to work harder in other areas in order to build something that gave me a bit more of an edge because I didn't have all the natural God-given um talent or ability that that other individuals have. 00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:36.240 And so you're 100% right about that. 00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:54.640 The other thing for me, especially recently, but it has my entire life, but especially recently, that has made me focus more on fitness and nutrition, probably, is that you know my health status in my family is not great. 00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:57.519 For example, I'm 49 years old and I have high blood pressure. 00:27:57.599 --> 00:27:57.759 Okay. 00:27:58.160 --> 00:28:05.200 I found out two years ago that I had high blood pressure, and that two years ago I was in better shape than I am now, and I think I'm in pretty good shape. 00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:08.160 And I eat good, I work out seven days a week. 00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:10.400 There's no reason why I should have high blood pressure. 00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:14.559 Yeah, but because I'm African American and in my family, it is rampant. 00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:19.680 Most, I should say, most of my family, a lot of members in my family are overweight. 00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:26.240 People don't eat the way that I want them to eat, or I think they should eat, and I go home and they go, You're not healthy, look at you. 00:28:26.319 --> 00:28:33.279 And I'm going, no, it's the other way, it's the other way around, and then I'm there for two days and they go, tell me what you're eating, bro. 00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:36.240 Tell me what and now, and then we start working on some things. 00:28:36.400 --> 00:29:00.240 But what ends up happening for me is that if I don't find a certain amount of discipline and stay um consistent with my nutrition and fitness, then it'd be easy for me to fall out of what I have because genetically I can go down that road easy, as opposed to just being at our age, because age is part of it, and then when you got it genetically, I really gotta work really hard to do it. 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:38.240 And so it plays a part in my focus and what I what I want and need to do, and especially just for all African-American individuals, anyway, men and women, we do have this predisposition of this happening with us, and so that should be a part of our focus and motivation to stay somewhat healthy and eat somewhat um um nutrition because we are prone to some of those issues that we can prevent if we spend a little bit more time

just you know eating a little less of the sodium and and the fats and a little bit more of the veggies um and the right fruits and that kind of thing. 00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:50.799 And so that's just my little you know, sneak in there to to my community that that that I'm excited and and proud to to want to motivate because it's important for us to know that. 00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:51.279 Yeah. 00:29:51.599 --> 00:30:00.240 I think if we have 23andMe and these types of like DNA uh like family history, you can start, you know, whatever your background is, you can find out. 00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:03.759 You may know like how your grandfather my grandfather passed away at 55. 00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:04.000 Right. 00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:13.119 Went to sleep one night, never woke up, but 55 years old, and he was generally healthy, wasn't over, wasn't really that overweight, but you know, they didn't really know, they had no idea, right? 00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:18.079 So it's in me to have that kind of predisposition to like heart disease and stuff like that. 00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:22.079 But you know, so I'm checking that stuff out regularly and that kind of thing. 00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:40.720 And I think everybody's responsibility is like if you know you're predisposed to be in a certain way or have you know colo high cholesterol, blood pressure, whatever it is, like let that be a motivator, let that be like a chip that you're gonna like play and and and be just that much more determined to like you know not fall into that. 00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:53.920 I love that, and I'm with you a hundred percent, and it is so frustrating when not enough individuals that I spend time with or including my family, see it that way. 00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:59.519 Um they know how do they fra how what's the frame that that they're looking at it from? 00:30:59.920 --> 00:31:04.079 They they mostly look at it from this is just what I've always done. 00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:12.160 It's one of those things, just like just like anything else, when you've done and been who you are your entire life, change is hard. 00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:13.680 Yeah, and it's scary. 00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:23.519 And most of the reason why it's hard and scary is because you don't have the knowledge to figure out how to do it differently, so it's easy to just kind of fall back into your bad habits. 00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:35.839 So if you don't have a coach or a teacher or somebody there consistently every day, kind of saying, No, no, no, no, not that, but this, it's easy for you to go, I should be having this, but boy, that show look good right now, and I'm just gonna do that. 00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:40.799 And that can be disappointing because you're talking about family members dying at young ages. 00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:45.200 I can I I've been to way more funerals than I ever should in my entire life. 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:54.880 And and if diabetes runs in my family, you know, high cholesterol, sugar, all that is a major part of my family. 00:31:54.960 --> 00:32:01.599 And I and I talk to family members or and even you know, my mom, and I'm like, okay, we we gotta do better than this. 00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:03.440 You can't have this every night. 00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:05.440 You can't be eating that for breakfast. 00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:07.680 I won't even mention what these things are, okay? 00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:12.240 You can't, mom, you can't be having that for breakfast and think that it's okay. 00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:21.680 I know, I know, and then she still has it for breakfast, you know, um, because it's just it's just who and what she's been doing her entire life. 00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:25.279 If she lived with me, it would be different because I'd be baiting all these things. 00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:27.599 And so what you're saying is absolutely true. 00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:34.240 The challenge is um a lot of these individuals don't know how to do anything different, um, even when the doctor doesn't have to be. 00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:38.079 Tradition is such a like a beautiful part of society. 00:32:38.240 --> 00:33:00.319 Like if you're you grow up in a tradition where mom does it this way because grandma does it this way, and great grandma, and and and and one of the things that I've thought about, and look, and I growing up, you know, in California, like there were we didn't have that many traditions around food, it was really more just kind of whatever was kind of like the thing to eat. 00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:18.079 I mean, I remember when TV dinners kind of showed up, and we were huge Sacramento Kings fans, so it was like all of a sudden we got away from saying, Hey man, hey, we we literally would sing that before at like the early times of my childhood, but then it was like in front of the TV watching the Kings games, um, you know, that kind of stuff. 00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:24.240 And so there wasn't that many like kind of hard fast traditions besides like Thanksgiving and like the typical stuff. 00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:37.119 Um but what I thought about was like, man, the food is getting more and more refined, the food is getting worse for you, like because all the you know, the con the it's going further and further away from like source, right? 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:41.759 And and that just makes it harder and harder for even the foods that might have been good a hundred years ago. 00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:57.200 Like if I'm working hard labor or like in my you know, I've got a farm or I've got a ranch or I'm doing a lot of like manual labor all day, and I'm eating a lot of really rich, healthy, like you know, flavorful foods, I'm probably not that unhealthy in that area. 00:33:57.519 --> 00:33:57.839 Right. 00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:03.759 But now first of all, the source of where that stuff is coming from is a lot more, you know. 00:34:03.839 --> 00:34:08.159 I lived in Milton, Florida for a year, uh, which

is Panhandle near Pensacola. 00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:08.559 Oh, okay. 00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:16.880 And uh Milton is a very small town known for having the most churches in per square cavita of any of any town in America. 00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:33.840 You know, okay, but it's very it's very southern and it's very um it's very that kind of and and I just you know I worked at this um at-risk youth like outdoor wilderness facility and the food that they were getting served, I just I was like, what are we doing to these kids? 00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:40.239 Yes, but that you know it was just it was amazing that even the government was kind of like that was just part of the deal. 00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:44.239 It was like corned beef hash for breakfast and like biscuits and gravy. 00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:49.599 Listen, man, I uh number one, I have the greatest family on the planet. 00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:59.360 I was raised by the best women in the world because I I I grew up in this tiny little house and there's like 12 of us and no no exaggerations like walking uphill both ways. 00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:02.400 And that's that's that's kind of sort of how I grew up. 00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:08.000 And my grandmother was a matriarch Magmo, she she is the greatest lady ever. 00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:11.599 And then my mother took over for her after she passed away. 00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:14.880 And in my mindset took over, so I don't want my aunts to be upset with me. 00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:19.840 My mom just kind of took over the kind of tradition, but one thing that my grandmother did was feed people. 00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:28.559 Like we lived in a not so great neighborhood, and we had gangsters, and we had you know hoodlums, and we and it was it was not great. 00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:38.800 And my home where it was sitting was kind of sort of in the center of the neighborhood where people have to come down to the this part of the street to go either way, yeah. 00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:43.039 And they go to my grandmother's house, and it was like neutral territory, yeah. 00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:43.360 Right? 00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:54.320 It was like nobody screws up, nobody messes up around this house right here because my grandmother fed everybody, you know, everybody was cool and she talked to everybody. 00:35:54.639 --> 00:36:01.679 And there was always Sunday dinners, you know, kind of almost your traditional, stereotypical black family, right? 00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:04.719 It was always Sunday dinner, but it was always dinner, always. 00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:08.400 Anybody could ever come by, anybody would ever come, they get fed. 00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:10.559 It was always that way, and it was great. 00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:12.880 And when you're poor, you eat what you got, right? 00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:16.880 So you don't you don't be complaining if you got something then you're good, right? 00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:19.519 So you you make what you what's what's

due. 00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:24.960 And my mother basically took over that, and so every Sunday people are always coming over. 00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:29.760 My mother's house still happens now, and and during the weeks, I mean, hey, my mother's name is Catherine. 00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:30.400 We call a cat. 00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:32.239 Say, hey cat, what you cooking? 00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:37.199 And my mother makes makes food for like 90 people, yeah. 00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:49.039 And it's like three people there eating, and it's great and it's delicious, but it becomes you it becomes tradition, it becomes habit, and now you're probably eating more than you should eat, and and not always the things that you should be eating and that kind of thing. 00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:50.800 And I loved it and I love it. 00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:52.320 Um, I've kind of taken over that. 00:36:52.400 --> 00:37:00.480 People come to my house and eat, but then I'm I'm feeding them, you know, spinach, spinach salads with grilled chicken on it and homemade dressing and all these good things. 00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:01.760 And they go, oh, this is delicious. 00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:25.440 And it's great that they think that that's delicious, as opposed to where is the you know, um cheeseburgers and and and hot dogs, which which I'm cool with, but um it is a tradition that once it becomes a habit and we don't learn how to take some of that tradition and use it, and then other areas say, hey, we're not gonna do that today, we're gonna do this type of food. 00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:43.440 So there's some balance, then it kind of can get out of hand, and and that's kind of that's kind of stereotypical throughout, you know, especially in in our in my community, but I'm sure in other communities too, but I can only speak for my community, and um, it's important to kind of work through, especially for the younger kids. 00:37:43.599 --> 00:38:02.239 My I have a niece and nephew that um that um are athletes but still have to learn to eat the way that athletes should eat at this age before so they don't start to develop those issues that we have at an early age. 00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:10.000 Um and so that's and I work with them and talk with them and and it's I wish I had somebody talking to me about that at a younger age too. 00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:13.039 I had to learn all that stuff kind of on my own, but yeah, you know. 00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:23.840 Well, I mean I think that's such a important thing to do is try to like be a part of breaking the cycle, absolutely, at least for your family or the people that you have that impact on and have that connection with. 00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:24.480 Absolutely. 00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:25.039 Yeah. 00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:34.000 Talk about and speaking of like connection, I mean, I love that you know, as I'm doing research about you, I find out you have an acting studio here in Austin, breathe uh acting studio. 00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:38.239 Uh what's your mission with that acting studio? 00:38:38.320 --> 00:38:42.320 What do you love about like helping young actors? 00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:48.079 So um I I was an actor way before I was ever a filmmaker or writer. 00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:57.119 Um I did a I I don't know if I talk about this or not, but I I did a film when I was a kid that was filmed in my hometown because people like you to go to LA. 00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.760 I did a film when I was a kid, um eight years old, right? 00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:00.639 Eight years old. 00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:09.280 Eight and and nine, because my birthday was, I guess, during the my son is nine, so I'm I'm amazed because now I know what an like how immature nine-year-olds are. 00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:16.880 Definitely, and I was my grandmother used to always say, You have an old soul, and there's a lot about what I did as a young kid. 00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:21.679 I used to think, at least I think, and they thought that I thought a little older than than I was. 00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:38.960 But uh I was in the movie The Color Purple, the original Color Purple, and uh it was filmed in my hometown, and I had an audition for it, and um, there's a crazy, there's I got so many crazy stories around how I even got into this film that that's a whole another conversation that we can have. 00:39:39.199 --> 00:40:02.320 Um, but once that that happened, I knew then that I wanted to be an actor, and it was because of the people that were on the set that took me under their wing and really talked to me and mentored me, and not like a kid, but like an actor, like just a nut because I wasn't an actor, I didn't know, but I was just supposed to be an extra. 00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:04.639 A great opportunity happened. 00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:06.000 You gotta tell the story. 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:10.480 I mean, see they put you and the other kids at a at a the dinner table, the dinner table. 00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:14.719 Yes, and they said just talk to each other, and they just filmed it, and they're kind of this information. 00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:19.039 Oh, come on, I gotta this is how I this is how I work. 00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:20.159 You gotta get the goods. 00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:20.960 This is such a great story. 00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:22.239 So tell tell what happened. 00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:26.880 So so I don't know how many weeks we were into filming at this point in time. 00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:31.360 Um, and like I said, I was just an extra bouncing around in and in different areas of the film. 00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:35.599 And my brother's in the film, cousins, there's a few people that I knew that was in the film. 00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:40.960 Well, one day, one of the assistants came out and said, Hey Maurice, uh, where's your mother? 00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:42.079 Can you grab her? 00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:44.480 And I need you to come inside of the house. 00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:47.360

And they did that with me and I think five other kids. 00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:51.440 And they put us all at the dinner table, their dinner table in the movie. 00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:54.320 And they, you know, just had us all kind of sit around. 00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:59.280 And once we sat down, like everybody started to come into the room. 00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:05.840 Steven Spielberg and Oprah Winfrey and Whoopi, and and they were just standing around, and I had no idea what was happening. 00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:08.000 Like, what is going on, you know? 00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:16.800 And um, they just basically said, Hey, we're just gonna turn the camera on and we're just gonna have you guys talk a little bit, and you know, it's nothing you know crazy, just talk. 00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:22.000 And from my memory, um, not a whole it's scary for everybody, right? 00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:23.679 So not a whole lot of things. 00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:25.599 So most kids just get quiet and shy. 00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:26.719 And that's exactly what happened. 00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:28.800 Dear in the headlights kind of experience. 00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:30.159 Exactly what happened. 00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:31.599 And I did not. 00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:42.239 The crazy part is is that from what I remember, I was watching the scene as an important scene where she's getting ready to shave him and she's she's considered Danny Glover. 00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:43.119 Danny Glover. 00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:58.960 So so um uh Seeley Whippy Cooper uh exactly so you have you have she has the knife, she has the knife and he's cursing her out or he's and she's walking because this is the moment where she's really considering sorry, she's really considering um you know harming him. 00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:10.079 Yeah, and I'm watching literally on like between almost from you to me, but certainly from you to this this this wall here, watching that scene happen the day or two before. 00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:10.800 Yeah, okay. 00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:14.079 So I have a small grasp of what the movie kind of sort of is about. 00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:23.679 So I don't I don't claim to have known what the movie is about, but I did know at the time that it was about you know a husband abusing his wife and all these different kinds of little nuances. 00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:34.639 So I just started talking about how I thought that as a man that if the wife did not obey the husband, that she should be disciplined. 00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:36.079 Now I didn't believe any of this. 00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:40.239 I'm just going off of what I had seen as far as the movie goes. 00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:41.599 And it was just my opinion. 00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:49.039 I said, in the Bible it says this, like I was using all kinds of we were big church-going kids, you know, and that kind of in the Bible it says you should do all these. 00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:54.719 So you started like kind of weaving together some things that you'd heard from the things that I've heard, stuff that I've seen, nothing that I believed. 00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:55.760 I just started talking. 00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:57.840 They said talk, and I said, Okay, cool. 00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:01.280 And I could see, you know, them kind of chattering a little bit. 00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:03.599 And I went on, I don't know, a minute or two for sure. 00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:04.000 Yeah, yeah. 00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:08.239 And then after a while, there was one girl sitting next to me, and she kind of chimed in. 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:11.679 She kind of took the other, the opposition, and I was like, okay, this is cool. 00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:13.119 Now we kind of go back and forth. 00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:16.480 And then after a minute or so, she stopped talking and I just kept going. 00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:16.719 Yeah. 00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:19.360 And when I was done, I got a standing ovation. 00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:25.840 And when I got to standing ovation, the assistant said, Hey Maurice, I need you and your mom to meet me in the office. 00:43:26.320 --> 00:43:26.960 Said, okay. 00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:32.400 We went into the office, and right away they said, We want to give him a contract. 00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:39.280 We want to keep him on set for the next however many weeks, and this is how much we're going to pay him. 00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:42.880 And it was more money than anybody in my my family ever made. 00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:45.039 My mother almost hit the floor. 00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:45.280 Yeah. 00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:46.719 I almost hit the floor. 00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:53.440 Um, and every day that I came back after that, I had like a new line to say or a new position to be in. 00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:54.880 And it was great. 00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:59.760 What was really cool about what you what you were asking before is at that time. 00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:10.800 Time, Radon Chong, who is Tommy Chong's door, Whoopi Goldberg, Danny Glover, James Ingram at the time, Lawrence Fishburne people or Larry Fishburne at the time. 00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:17.119 These people would sit with me in rooms and just talk to me. 00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:22.719 Margaret Avery, especially Radon Chong, we'd sit out on the balcony. 00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:24.800 She must have been pretty young back then. 00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:27.599 She was, I would say, in her twenties at that point in time. 00:44:28.239 --> 00:44:28.719 Really pretty. 00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:30.159 I remember how pretty she was. 00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:33.199 I remember from uh Commando with Arnold Schwarzenegger. 00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:34.079 Oh my god, who's she? 00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:35.119 Exactly right. 00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:39.119 And she was the sweetest, sweetest person in the entire world. 00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:43.599 And just talk to me and just ask, not just ask me kids stuff, but just talk to me.

00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:48.000 And boy, I boy, Whoopi, if you ever see this, I I say this with all the respect. 00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:51.280 Whoopi Goberg went for a walk with me. 00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:55.840 And she she was doing comic relief at the time with Robin Williams and Billy Christopher. 00:44:56.400 --> 00:45:03.679 And we would watch that, and we watched it one night before we went to film, and she had this one story about her um how she got pregnant with her daughter. 00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:06.320 And her daughter was on set, her daughter's in the movie as well. 00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:08.320 Danny Glover's daughter's in the movie as well. 00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:13.199 And I remember asking her if that was true at eight years old. 00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:22.400 I asked her if the story that she told on Comet View was was uh a coming relief was real, and she told me the story. 00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:55.599 Yeah, there's nothing that she should have done or needed to do, but she didn't treat me like a kid, she just talked to me like an I loved it, yeah, and I know that without that type of mentorship, without having people look at me as something other than some little kid who's lucky to be here, they talk to me like an individual that may get a little bit of something from what they say, changed my life, yeah, change completely changed my life, and that has happened to me a number of times in my lifetime. 00:45:55.840 --> 00:46:05.920 Like I am nothing, there's no Mo, there's no Maurice Moore, there's no Motivate Pictures, there's no Breathe Acting Studio without some of the people that affected my life. 00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:16.960 So when it comes to breathe, as an actor, I I went to school, I studied um theater, I got my theater degree at at Bethel in Kansas. 00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:20.960 So I knew between eight years old and 19 that I was gonna be an actor. 00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:24.719 The crazy part is I never acted between eight years old and 20. 00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:25.920 I just knew it. 00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:33.840 Yeah, and anything that I knew how to do as an actor, I got from what I call the the school of Denzel Washington and Robert De Niro. 00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:39.519 Every movie that I've ever seen and everything I know about acting came from them, and everybody's like, Why? 00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:40.159 What are you talking about? 00:46:40.239 --> 00:46:40.960 How are you gonna be an actor? 00:46:41.039 --> 00:46:42.239 I said, I know what I'm supposed to do. 00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:43.679 Yeah, know what I'm supposed to do. 00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:44.880 So I went to school. 00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:53.360 When I got to school, I found out that um two years into school, I found out that um I didn't read very well at all. 00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:53.840 Yeah. 00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:55.599 Can't be an actor if he can't read. 00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:56.719 This was when you were 20? 00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:57.760 This is when I was 20. 00:46:57.920 --> 00:46:58.079 Okay. 00:46:58.239 --> 00:46:59.599 Okay, and I'm in school, I'm reading aloud. 00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.400 Like you're trying to sight read or you're trying to like, yeah. 00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:05.119 And I, you know, I always thought the good readers read fast. 00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:08.719 So I used to try to read fast to give the illusion that I was a good reader. 00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:10.000 It was it was awful. 00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:12.880 And I'm reading aloud in class, and it was just really awful. 00:47:13.199 --> 00:47:17.519 And um, and that was hard for me. 00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:18.719 It was embarrassing for me. 00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:23.280 And and as a trying to be an actor, it was definitely not going to work out. 00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:39.599 And uh, when I was at my other school, and and and I went to school in Minnesota first, and I went to school in in Kansas, uh, I had a theater teacher who, if I remember, because I went to the school that I went to, the Denzel Washington and Robert De Niro school, I knew how to act. 00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:44.719 Yeah, but it was learning lines and being in character and things I had never seen before. 00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:49.440 Everybody that was ever at my school had been acting since they were like 10 and in plays and all these different things. 00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:50.639 So it was different. 00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:54.880 Well, when I learned lines, I was as good as anybody. 00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:55.920 Anybody. 00:47:56.159 --> 00:48:02.239 So I would take the time and I could when I did the work and I could learn the lines when I came back in to perform, it worked. 00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:06.159 So I did a I did a uh a piece called um Streetcar Name Desire. 00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:06.639 Yeah. 00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:10.400 Um, and I was in in my production class and I was performing that scene. 00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:11.599 Is it the kitchen scene? 00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:13.519 Uh it was just when he when he blows up. 00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:14.639 It dude, you know this. 00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:15.920 Oh man, I did that. 00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:17.119 I did that scene too. 00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:18.000 I loved it. 00:48:18.079 --> 00:48:19.920 It was Sam, obviously Stanley. 00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:39.519 Stanley, yeah, Stanley Kowalski, and again, you're like and what a great opportunity as a young actor to like really go to that, like express that full it changed my life because what you just said that go to my professor at the time when he saw it, he said something that I've carried me ever since then. 00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:46.000 He says, You have this quiet intensity because that explosion that you're talking about, that's not me that would be. 00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:54.000 So, real quick, just uh to frame this like this there's a specific scene where they're at the dinner table and Rose and what's the other one? 00:48:54.159 -->

00:49:13.119 Uh the the ladies, she's see that they're talking about stuff, and it's gonna, and he's just sitting there, like kind of building like this kind of furnace, and all of a sudden she says some little like off-handed word that he just blows up and like loses his shit all over, and he just yells at them and like storms out, and just you know, it's a huge scene. 00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:16.639 And it's just not me, like that wasn't my personality, it's not my personality. 00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:18.960 It's not any, it's very it's only Alvacino. 00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:23.840 I think he's the only one who actually like might have that in him every day, every day, right exactly. 00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:28.159 And so for me to be able to do that and then see that, it was like, where did that come from? 00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:32.000 Yeah, and he goes, he goes, you know, you have this quiet intensity, I've kept that my entire life. 00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:38.480 He says, Hey, I want you to come to a rehearsal tonight because I'm casting a plate, and I think I want you to play this character. 00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:39.760 I said, Great. 00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:41.519 Here's my shot. 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:50.880 I go to rehearsal, it is Antigone playing the character Creon, which is Greek mythology. 00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:56.880 Yeah, I can't read you know, The Given Tree, which is one of my favorite books of all time. 00:49:57.519 --> 00:49:59.679 And here I am somehow got banned, by the way. 00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:00.400 I don't know what's going on. 00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:00.960 Did that happen? 00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:01.760 I think so. 00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:02.239 I think so. 00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:04.320 We need to have that conversation. 00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:05.280 I need to find out about that. 00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:06.239 That's a different podcast. 00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:07.440 Oh, yeah, for sure. 00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:10.960 But and and Greek and Greek mythology is just like Shakespeare. 00:50:11.119 --> 00:50:14.960 It is pages of monologues, dialogue, dialogue. 00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:17.760 Everybody else in the in the play are cast. 00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:22.400 Yeah, we just need this one character, Creon, that he basically said, This is Creon. 00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:22.639 Yeah. 00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:31.599 Before I ever read one thing, I'm spending two hours in there reading with these really terrific actors, and it's the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen in my life. 00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:34.159 I was like, what is happening? 00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:37.760 Now at the end of this, my story is a little different than his. 00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:43.679 He says, You came to me and said, Hey, will you help me with this and help me read? 00:50:44.320 --> 00:50:49.119 I remember him coming to me saying, Hey, why don't you come to my office tomorrow and we'll work on this one? 00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:51.679 Either way, one of us made that happen. 00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:52.079 Right. 00:50:53.039 --> 00:51:00.960 But he knew because he'd seen the scene where you're playing Stanley that you had the you had that instinct, you had that quiet intensity. 00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:06.400 So he understood that he could work with you and solve the the reading issue. 00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:07.199 100%. 00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:08.719 Every day, 5 a.m. 00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:10.079 in his office for weeks. 00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:10.239 Yeah. 00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:11.760 This man taught me how to read. 00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:12.079 Yeah. 00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:13.760 Newspaper, put in front, read. 00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:15.760 Nope, stop, slow down, go back, do this. 00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:16.639 Okay, what is that? 00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:17.199 B. 00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:18.239 How many syllables? 00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:19.920 This man taught me how to read. 00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:21.519 His name is Travis Malone. 00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:26.960 This was in 1995-ish. 00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:28.880 Travis Malone. 00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:29.920 Now works. 00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:35.599 Like this people like this can literally change the course of somebody's life. 00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:42.480 Not only did he change the course of my life, he is one of my dearest friends now, and he works with me at Motivate Pictures. 00:51:42.719 --> 00:51:43.039 All right. 00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:44.800 On my creative reading team. 00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:45.440 I love it. 00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:46.559 I love it. 00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:48.880 It is amazing. 00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:58.719 He is the dean of uh of theater at the univers at um Virginia Wesling University in in um uh Virginia Beach. 00:51:58.800 --> 00:51:58.960 Yeah. 00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:00.719 I've gone there and I've taught. 00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:06.000 Um he he he changed we I talk to him all the time. 00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:08.480 He's on my Zoom calls, they read scripts. 00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:17.760 I now write screenplays for studios and for myself and produce movies because that happened. 00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:20.880 Like it changed my life. 00:52:21.039 --> 00:52:25.760 So when I created Breathe as an actor, I I started, I moved to LA. 00:52:25.840 --> 00:52:27.519 I worked, I lived in LA for about a decade. 00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:34.480 I worked with all kinds of actors, sag actors and um studio actors, young kids, Disney and and Nickelodeon actors. 00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:44.480 Um I taught here at Zachary Scott Theater before I moved to LA for about 10 years, um as an acting teacher for young five to fifteen year olds. 00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:51.440 And I always knew that I wanted to teach, but I I don't like the idea of those who can't do teach. 00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:51.679 Yeah. 00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:53.360 I knew I was gonna be an actor. 00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:57.519 I don't think that really I don't think that uh that that is

applicable to acting. 00:52:57.679 --> 00:52:58.079 I yes. 00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:01.280 If you are a good actor, teach. 00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:04.559 If you're not a good actor, don't 100% don't teach at all. 00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:09.119 But I didn't want to just teach, I wanted to be a successful actor and teach. 00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:15.840 And and I thought part of me being a successful teacher, people pay attention if you can be a successful actor too. 00:53:16.079 --> 00:53:20.880 So it wasn't, oh, I never made it in Hollywood or I couldn't make it on stage, so I guess I'll teach. 00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:22.880 That didn't that never applied to me. 00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:24.880 It was just another part of what I wanted to do. 00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:40.400 But what I really wanted to do with Breathe is I want to work with actors, especially locally when I came back to Austin in 2014-15, was everybody who was that had any real talent had to move away to LA and New York and to find some success. 00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:44.239 Well, I was like, no, let's put a let's put a stop to that. 00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:44.559 Right. 00:53:44.800 --> 00:54:08.239 If I can work with you and I can and I believe I can get you on a level to go toe to toe with any actor on the planet, and I'm talking about all the celebrity actors that we're talking about, and if I have a production company where I can make movies, then I can take my actors from my acting studio and put them in significant roles in a feature film where they get seen and they don't have to go to LA or New York. 00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:08.559 Right. 00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:21.519 So I have a body of actors that are talented and I have work, stories to be told that they that they otherwise wouldn't get here because they they're not bringing that kind of work here. 00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:28.079 So extra work or under five lines or some TV show that nobody's gonna either see or gonna give them an opportunity. 00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:42.000 But if I put them in a movie where they really get to work, they get to have an arc, they get to be the lead and carry, you know, characters a hundred percent, and that film gets seen and does well, then they get seen. 00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:49.519 And they have a body of work for the demo reel or something that's on Netflix or in the theaters where people go, where's he at? 00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:50.559 Where's she at with it? 00:54:50.639 --> 00:55:04.159 Yeah, and that's why Breathe started and Motivate Pictures, and now every film that I've done since 2016 all-star my breathe actors, yeah, and that's huge for me. 00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:04.880 Huge for me. 00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:06.239 That's beautiful, man. 00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:28.639 Yeah, you know, uh, just on a personal note, you know, similar, similar reading issue, and I really came it came to bite me in the ass when I was, you know, acting, is I I you know, I I just memorized real as quick as I could, you

know, and I came to I when I came to Austin, I went down to you know, audition at like the the Dorti Rodson. 00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:31.199 Yeah, and it was for a movie, and I killed it. 00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:37.199 It was like I was played this like uh cocaine, you know, like bad guy who's like just look losing his shit. 00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:48.159 And I just like I mean they you know they saw guy after guy after guy, and I came in and I just like threw myself against the wall, and I was like, and they were just like, holy shit, that's they're like, Where where did you come from? 00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:51.599 And I'm like, I just you know, I I'm I'm an actress that's moved into town. 00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:54.880 And the one of the producers was like, I have something for you. 00:55:55.039 --> 00:56:01.039 Can I I want to hire you to come to my house and like read this whole like and she sent me that she was like two days? 00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:07.119 She's like, you just you gotta memorize it, you know, and and then she's like, and I'll have some other stuff you gotta read anyway. 00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:20.719 Like I show up there and and I just I I couldn't get the word, I couldn't just like get there, and I just it was humiliating because I like here she you know, I it was it seemed like this moment where I was gonna like take another leap. 00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:33.760 Sure, sure, and it was like I I just I couldn't really deliver at that level, and it forced me to go back and just like you just work on my reading out loud because I think reading is one thing, but the the art of reading out loud with expression. 00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:36.400 You are 100% right. 00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:38.079 That's a different, that's a whole different thing. 00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:48.079 You because when I memorized, yeah, I went because like you said, I was fast memorizer and this memorizer, and I was really good at it, but it was all underneath, it was all internal. 00:56:48.239 --> 00:56:50.880 Yeah, when I start reading out loud, done deal. 00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:52.800 It was not the same thing at all. 00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:54.800 So you are 100% right about that. 00:56:55.280 --> 00:57:12.400 What is really interesting about what you just said is as a as an acting coach and as a um uh uh uh casting director when I when I cast or producer for my films, that taught me to not do something that they do all the time in the industry. 00:57:12.639 --> 00:57:14.079 I think code readings. 00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:16.159 Take this, read this first. 00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:18.639 What are we showing? 00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:27.280 It is the dumbest thing ever, and they do it all the time because one, I've seen some of the best readers, no joke, some of the best readers, man. 00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:30.719 Oh my god, I can I'm never gonna get this part because he sounds good reading that. 00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:36.320 Yeah, and then you get him on set and he can't

act at all because he can't do anything other than read well. 00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:36.480 Right. 00:57:36.639 --> 00:57:40.800 But when you need him to make some adjustments so to try some different things, they don't have the ability to do that. 00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:44.800 So you hire somebody who read well, not somebody who has the skill set as an actor. 00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:49.679 Two, somebody who doesn't read well doesn't mean that they can't take direction and do those different things. 00:57:50.320 --> 00:58:04.480 If you're going to give someone as an actor, and I I developed a new technique as an actor, so so you know, there's miser, there's this that's Stanisla, I developed you've kind of taken some of the things that's called the Mo method at this point in time. 00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:10.000 And and they they applied a few of those things, but it's it's it is a specific kind of method. 00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:17.519 And one of the things that I specifically stay say, um every everything starts with understanding. 00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:18.800 That's the number one thing. 00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:26.960 And you can't give me something code and expect me to understand the character, the situation, the moment in that period of time. 00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:34.400 So you have to allow me that time to do it, let alone be familiar enough with the words to where they come out where I'm not staring at it like this. 00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:35.920 And so I don't do that at all. 00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:42.559 I would never do a code reading in any audition that I have, and I don't teach my my students about code reading. 00:58:42.639 --> 00:58:43.360 Well, we should do it. 00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:49.519 That's something you have to learn on your own because I it it I can't even teach you how to code read because it's not good. 00:58:49.679 --> 00:58:51.280 Either you can read or you can't. 00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:53.599 I can't teach you, can't teach you that. 00:58:53.840 --> 00:59:11.519 And I think it's unfair to a lot of talented individuals that they get something on the spot like that that they don't understand, and we don't know the level of quality reading that they have that's going to give them this possible good opportunity to have a really great job or not. 00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:14.800 So that alone I won't do. 00:59:14.960 --> 00:59:18.880 And because of my experience in who I am, go, that would have never that didn't work for me. 00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:23.920 So I can't teach this, and I don't think it's I don't think it's good for the for the talent. 00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:30.880 Well, I love kind of pulling it all back together here because uh, I mean I this could be a three-hour podcast. 00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:33.039 So we are we're hitting an hour here. 00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:45.199 Uh, but I the um you know, this time in our lives, you know, one of the things I love about you know being this of this age is like we we have something to share with the next generation. 00:59:45.599 --> 01:00:00.639 We have experience, we have knowledge, we have you know just understanding of like the hardships of of making mistakes and learning from them and we can really make an impact on that next generation, whether it's our kids, our students, sure, uh, or you know, our clients in my case. 01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:19.599 But um how do you you know if somebody comes to you and they say, like, hey, I want I want to I want to be more fit or I want to be an actor, like what are some of the things that you're really that what are some of like the key things you're communicating to them about to to get them on the right track? 01:00:20.159 --> 01:00:22.559 It it goes back to what I was saying before. 01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:32.719 If if you come into me and you say you want to do something and I'm that I'm that dude, I'm that dude that either people really love or kind of go, oh, I should have never asked him all that, because I'm gonna tell you the truth. 01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:36.480 Like I'm the guy that tells you what you need to hear and what you want to hear. 01:00:36.559 --> 01:00:36.719 Right. 01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:39.039 And and that's not a negative thing at all. 01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:46.719 Sometimes it's like you're the guy that says, uh well, first stop drinking Coca-Cola, eating you know, exactly right fillet everything. 01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:49.360 And they go, Oh man, well then I can't help you. 01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:50.480 I can tell you all the other things. 01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:52.320 If you don't want to hear that, we're not gonna start with it. 01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:52.960 Exactly right. 01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:53.599 That's exactly good. 01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:55.840 The four glasses of wine a night, probably not helping. 01:00:56.239 --> 01:00:57.280 Probably not good for you. 01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:01.199 And if you want to accomplish what it is you want to accomplish, and that's where I would be at. 01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:04.880 I like I would start if, hey, I want to be an actor, okay? 01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:08.239 You is it a hobby or something that you really truly want to do? 01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:09.760 That's the first thing I asked about acting. 01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:12.880 If you want, is it a hobby for you or something that you want to pursue? 01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:15.679 Yeah, because those are two very different things. 01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:17.440 If it's a hobby, cool, fantastic. 01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:27.519 We can do some scene work, I can get you an understanding about the physicality of things, we can have some fun and and you do your thing and go to local play if you want to, cool. 01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:57.440 If it's something that you think you want to pursue, then your mindset has to be and the amount of work it's gonna require just to get the real fundamentals down, yeah, and then the time that it takes, just like fitness, to grow

into who you are, your understanding of performance, your understanding of what each character needs, your understanding of working with different directors and what they're gonna need, the storylines and all those different things, and the challenges it is that comes with success. 01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:07.440 Right now, if you're okay with that, and it's because you're gonna get up every morning and say, This is what I'm supposed to be doing, I'm I'll I will roll with you all day, every day. 01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:08.800 Like I'm with you, let's go. 01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:12.239 Yeah, but you gotta know that this is what it's going to require. 01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:18.719 And if after two weeks you kind of go, uh I think I'm done with it, then you never wanted it in the first place. 01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:21.119 Fitness is exactly that, right? 01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:24.159 Say, hey, I want to look a certain way and I want to feel a certain way. 01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:27.599 Are you doing that because the summer's coming, you just kind of want to look out on the beach? 01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:28.400 Nothing wrong with that. 01:02:28.559 --> 01:02:29.199 That's really cool. 01:02:29.360 --> 01:02:31.920 So, does that mean when the summer's over, you're just gonna quit? 01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:41.119 You're gonna stop doing what you're doing, and then in another six months, you're gonna be like, Oh, I wish I was, or is it something that you want to be consistent with and it becomes your lifestyle? 01:02:41.199 --> 01:02:44.159 Yeah, everything that I do is all my lifestyle. 01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:51.760 How I eat, how I go to the gym, how I communicate all the information, it is my all-day, everyday practice. 01:02:51.920 --> 01:03:00.159 Um, and if they say this is what I want my lifestyle to be, because I want to be fit or in some decent shape my entire life. 01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:05.199 I want to feel better because what we put in our body doesn't help us feel that great. 01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:06.800 Sometimes I don't feel great all the time. 01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:09.679 Well, that's a lot of what you're putting into your body. 01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:21.039 I want to feel better, then we need to cut out these things, like you said, um, the the beer every day, or the the wine every night, or the fried chicken or just staying up and not and not getting a good night's sleep. 01:03:21.360 --> 01:03:22.400 Not getting enough rest. 01:03:22.639 --> 01:03:25.280 And that's something that I didn't say and we didn't talk about very much. 01:03:25.519 --> 01:03:29.679 And you're right, like that is crucial to the success in fitness. 01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:35.199 And if you're gonna be up on your phone all night strolling through social media until 2 a.m. 01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:45.119 and then you sleep until 10 and then nap later, like that's not healthy for what the recovery of the body or even helping you achieve the goals that you want to achieve. 01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:48.480 So it comes down to those healthy habits. 01:03:48.639 --> 01:03:59.440 Everything is about healthy habits, whether it's for your work or for your fitness, you gotta start, you have to understand what it's going to really require to be successful. 01:03:59.599 --> 01:03:59.840 Right. 01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:03.039 And then I'm telling you, this is what it's going to take. 01:04:03.199 --> 01:04:07.679 Now, when you go away, you have to decide, are you willing to do it? 01:04:07.840 --> 01:04:08.239 Right. 01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:10.800 But I'm giving you the information that you need. 01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:11.280 Right. 01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:16.400 Then if you come back and go, I'm really, I'm ready, then I'm I will roll with you. 01:04:16.719 --> 01:04:24.719 Yeah, and I think, you know, as a from the trainer's perspective, it's often that trainers, the first thing the trainer tells the person to do is like, we gotta start working out, right? 01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:26.800 Because that's obviously where we get paid, right? 01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:28.639 Like come to the gym, I'm gonna train you. 01:04:28.960 --> 01:04:36.239 But you know, if you look at the whole person and you really look at like where are they struggling most, like the first thing may be getting good night's sleep. 01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:43.440 Hey, come back to me next week and show me that you fell asleep at nine o'clock and you woke up at six every morning, and then let's start. 01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:49.920 Like, once you've recalibrated your sleeping habits, then we can talk about like putting your body into more stress. 01:04:50.239 --> 01:04:50.480 Absolutely. 01:04:50.639 --> 01:04:52.400 Because once you get that stress, right? 01:04:52.719 --> 01:04:55.840 If if they don't have good sleeping habits, boy, they're really gonna struggle with it. 01:04:56.000 --> 01:05:01.039 Which means they're their the cortisol levels are high, the stress levels, they're just they're in a catabolic state. 01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:04.800 They're gonna they probably shouldn't be strength training, they should be trying to recover. 01:05:05.039 --> 01:05:05.360 100%. 01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:16.079 You know, and this is this is the this is makes this is really the challenge, and I think it's it's one of the reasons why at this age, um, those who figured it out, you know, you and I look at each other, we've got a nod at each other. 01:05:16.480 --> 01:05:17.760 We we almost never have a conversation. 01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:18.159 Right. 01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:25.360 I know you're busy, I know you're getting work done, but it's like a nod of like, yeah, he's he's one of the few that has it figured out. 01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:35.519 And I think it's it it's harder at this age, but if you do it, if you really figure it out, it is, you know, I don't see you as somebody who's like, oh, I got 10 years left and then I'm gonna retire. 01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:36.880 No,

retire from what? 01:05:37.039 --> 01:05:39.679 Your life is amazing, like, right? 01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:41.760 I just had this conversation. 01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:45.519 Retirement is nowhere in my like ever in my future. 01:05:45.679 --> 01:05:47.599 It's like, if what am I gonna do? 01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:50.880 If I want to go, I can go on vacation anytime I want to do. 01:05:51.039 --> 01:05:53.039 I don't have to be I don't have to retire to do that. 01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:55.119 I don't ever want to be out of shape. 01:05:55.199 --> 01:05:58.480 Yeah, I don't ever want to stop working because I love doing what I do. 01:05:58.559 --> 01:05:58.719 Right. 01:05:58.960 --> 01:06:03.039 I what I Do every day is what I want to do for the rest of my life. 01:06:03.199 --> 01:06:04.559 What am I retiring from? 01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:10.639 And it keeps me motivated to live as long as I possibly can because of the things that I do. 01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:16.559 If I retired and sat around somewhere, including Cancun, I'd be like, what is happening? 01:06:16.880 --> 01:06:18.559 I give you about three days of your life. 01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:20.079 Let's go. 01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:22.719 Dude, I would be like, Can I work for you? 01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:25.599 You guys want me to shoot a video for you here at the hotel? 01:06:25.679 --> 01:06:30.400 And like, I would be trying to find something to do because that's just not my mindset. 01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:33.199 Like, I it doesn't that doesn't work for me that way. 01:06:33.519 --> 01:06:34.800 Well, I think that is one of those things. 01:06:34.880 --> 01:06:46.800 It's like a it's a it's the trick of when you don't have the energy because you're not leading yourself well, you just are looking for moments to rest and like take breaks and be lazier. 01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:54.159 When if you like transform your life into a life where you work out and that gives you the energy for the rest of the day, it's like you don't want to let that go. 01:06:54.559 --> 01:06:57.440 That is the life force behind everything you do. 01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:02.239 This past year was one of the busiest years I've ever had. 01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:04.079 I I made two movies. 01:07:04.159 --> 01:07:08.719 I shot a feature film in October, and I brought all my uh team in from Spain. 01:07:08.800 --> 01:07:17.599 I got it, I got a branch of Motivate Pictures in Barcelona, and then and then I thought that I after that I was gonna take some time off November, December. 01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:25.039 And as soon as I finished shooting, like literally the day after I finished shooting, I got offered a film in Spain to be in. 01:07:25.360 --> 01:07:35.599 And it was gonna be shooting in December, and I go, no, I need to rest because the whole year, like I was traveling, I was doing from January, had family stuff, exhausted. 01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:38.400 And I go, Okay, I'm an idiot. 01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:39.599 Okay, I'll

do the film. 01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:40.159 It's great. 01:07:40.239 --> 01:07:41.199 I went to Spain. 01:07:41.519 --> 01:07:45.360 November was all based around the holidays, so there was no no downtime then. 01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:57.440 And December 2nd, I flew to to Spain, and I said, Okay, I'll take some time off after after shooting the film, get done shooting the film around Christmas time, and then I finally go on vacation. 01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:04.800 Yeah, and I took some time, we took some time on vacation, and I needed it because I was just burnt out and tired. 01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:09.840 Right, but that was only so I can recover for a few weeks, right? 01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:13.119 And I came back going, let's go to work, yeah. 01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:20.399 Like everything, and it was like fitness, like I was in, I was in Europe, I was training, like I was like, it was as if I was home. 01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:21.920 There was no days off. 01:08:22.079 --> 01:08:29.760 There was like I was I was training, I was eating well, and my mindset was as soon as I get back home, time to go to work. 01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:33.600 My motivator's gonna be doing this, I gotta build this, my fitness has to be this. 01:08:33.680 --> 01:08:38.640 I'm turning 50 in six months, so this gives me some more incentive for what the next six months looks like. 01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:41.279 So there's no that's that will never change. 01:08:41.359 --> 01:08:45.840 There'd never be, boy, I just really like just not doing anything for months on end. 01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:47.359 That would drive me crazy. 01:08:47.439 --> 01:09:02.000 Yeah, I can't play, there's no another amount of golf or or I don't even play golf anymore, but anything that would make me say, I just love doing this all day, every no, yeah, no, I need my gym, I need my fitness, I need my nutrition. 01:09:02.159 --> 01:09:10.479 I push my body in places and areas because for me, I try to find new challenges for myself so I don't get too stale. 01:09:10.640 --> 01:09:14.159 That's why you see some of the HIT training and things that kind of goes on in between. 01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:25.359 Because again, my body can easily do some different things, and so if I don't find new challenges or new obstacles for my body, I could get bored, my body can get bored. 01:09:25.520 --> 01:09:31.359 So I'm always trying to find a new way to kind of push myself to do something and stay away from injuries and that kind of thing. 01:09:31.520 --> 01:09:49.600 But but that's that's exciting to me, that's interesting to me, and it keeps my body thinking and adjusting and not getting not plateauing as much as it possibly could, and you know, the the ups and the downs of what my my brain and my body does keeps me motivated. 01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:56.720 I look for different ways to do that, and I go at 50, I can still do certain things that 30-year-olds maybe not able to do. 01:09:56.800 --> 01:09:57.760 And I like I like that. 01:09:57.920 --> 01:09:58.560 I like that. 01:09:58.800 --> 01:09:59.680 That's interesting to me. 01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:00.239 It's hard. 01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:06.000 It's it's a great place to be in, you know, it's an it's a powerful place to be living your life in, you know. 01:10:06.079 --> 01:10:22.239 And I I was we're talking before I hit the start on the on the recording, you know, this is the time when men are supposed to be leaders, kings, uh, you know, like leading people, mentoring the next generation, like passing on the wisdom of of this. 01:10:22.560 --> 01:10:28.239 And you're strong enough to also then, you know, not you can't, you don't just have to sit back in a chair and be a senator. 01:10:28.399 --> 01:10:28.560 Right. 01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:35.359 You're you're supposed to be out in the front line still and leading and showing and and being an example for others to follow. 01:10:35.439 --> 01:10:39.119 And I think uh, you know, there's not that many of us doing that. 01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:48.479 I and I I just I want more more people to be doing that in their lives, and I think it's it's one of the ways that we can make a true impact and and leave a legacy. 01:10:48.560 --> 01:10:52.239 So I we should have we should have led with that. 01:10:53.279 --> 01:10:54.079 Um you cannot be more. 01:10:54.399 --> 01:11:00.399 But hey, you know, for those who who lasted all the way through the 60 69 minutes or so, they got that nugget right there. 01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:02.880 You got that nugget right there because you cannot be more right. 01:11:03.039 --> 01:11:08.640 Everything about my mindset right now, especially, is trying to be the best leader I can possibly be. 01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:12.720 And lead by example, not just not just by the words, but lead by example. 01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:21.760 Certainly for individuals in my family, my nieces and nephews, my daughter, um, my stepkids, um, and that's really important to me. 01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:27.119 And and really mentoring is really important to me. 01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:28.079 It really is. 01:11:28.159 --> 01:11:34.720 I I tell them all the time, if I had somebody to tell me this at this age, I would be in a better place in certain areas. 01:11:34.880 --> 01:11:45.199 So I try to provide some of the information and knowledge that um that either the young folks and even sometimes the older folks um didn't get or don't have. 01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:47.680 If I have it, then here. 01:11:47.920 --> 01:11:48.159 Yeah. 01:11:48.399 --> 01:11:53.600 Because I think we're better off, we're a better society, we're better individuals because of of that. 01:11:53.760 --> 01:12:03.600 And you're right, I feel like I got to a certain age of my life where I felt like that that is even more important now than I had seen it been in in the past. 01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:05.600 And so I'm with you 100% on that. 01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:13.039 Yeah, and I embrace that, and some people run away from that, some people don't want to don't want that responsibility, and I am on the complete opposite side. 01:12:13.119 --> 01:12:19.039 I've decided and made my peace with I think this is just part of why I'm here, and I'm okay with that. 01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:20.399 I'm okay with that. 01:12:21.279 --> 01:12:22.640 Hope you enjoyed the interview. 01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:26.560 Again, so much more is going on with Maurice right now. 01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:34.079 Uh obviously he's got his movie called Finding Souls, which you can't rent it yet because it's still in the festival circuit and that kind of thing. 01:12:34.159 --> 01:12:40.880 But soon it'll be something that you'll be able to see uh either on you know on TV or at a movie theater and things like that. 01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:42.319 Um be on the lookout for that. 01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:46.399 Breathe acting studio, that's his acting studio here in Austin. 01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:50.640 If you're interested in getting involved in acting, check out Breathe Acting. 01:12:51.119 --> 01:12:53.760 Uh and just uh definitely get a follow. 01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:59.920 Check out Breathe Acting Studio or uh motivate pictures on Instagram so you can follow what he's up to. 01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:02.640 Thanks for listening to the Mindset Forge Podcast. 01:13:02.720 --> 01:13:06.720 If you have any thoughts in the show notes, you're gonna find my email. 01:13:07.119 --> 01:13:07.840 Shoot me an email. 01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:13.359 Let me know somebody you want me to interview, thoughts on an episode, anything you'd like to intercommunicate with me. 01:13:13.680 --> 01:13:17.199 I really wanted this to be a two-way street, so share thoughts. 01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:19.199 And let's keep going with this.