S3 // EP01 // LAPU's MSIDT Program and Artificial Intelligence From The Student Perspective의 전체 녹취록

00:03:08.783 we use technology to kind 00:03:08.824 --> 00:03:13.724 of break the bridge between people, 00:03:14.085 --> 00:03:16.686 so we don't have to work 00:03:16.705 --> 00:03:17.866 directly with students, 00:03:17.925 --> 00:03:19.346 but that's not the case at all. 00:03:19.366 --> 00:03:23.026 We use it as an added support to help. 00:03:24.056 --> 00:03:25.337 Would you say that it 00:03:25.818 --> 00:03:27.098 lessened your ability to 00:03:27.118 --> 00:03:30.161 connect with myself or anyone else? 00:03:30.480 --> 00:03:32.442 Not at all. 00:03:32.681 --> 00:03:34.543 You've been very available 00:03:34.742 --> 00:03:36.623 from the beginning of the program. 00:03:37.305 --> 00:03:38.384 I'm always aware that at any 00:03:38.425 --> 00:03:39.086 point if there's something 00:03:39.105 --> 00:03:40.205 I'm not quite understanding, 00:03:40.326 --> 00:03:41.706 especially when it comes to 00:03:42.127 --> 00:03:43.247 creating those artifacts 00:03:43.268 --> 00:03:44.449 that are part of my final 00:03:44.468 --> 00:03:45.810 capstone and creating 00:03:45.849 --> 00:03:46.909 artifacts as part of each 00:03:47.090 --> 00:03:47.911 individual course, 00:03:49.412 --> 00:03:50.211 um I I know that you're 00:03:50.231 --> 00:03:51.453 always available and it's 00:03:51.473 --> 00:03:52.513 very easy to schedule 00:03:52.532 --> 00:03:53.633 meetings with you even next 00:03:53.653 --> 00:03:55.895 day um for shorter or 00:03:55.935 --> 00:03:56.895 longer periods of time 00:03:56.936 --> 00:03:57.936 depending on what I need 00:03:58.376 --> 00:04:00.097 but I feel like using spark 00:04:00.116 --> 00:04:01.677 for me personally in 00:04:02.437 --> 00:04:03.679 learning the material 00:04:03.859 --> 00:04:05.060 sometimes I want to just 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:06.941 get into some more detail 00:04:06.980 --> 00:04:08.542 or let it germinate a bit 00:04:08.562 --> 00:04:09.622 in my mind while I'm 00:04:10.062 --> 00:04:11.122 digesting you know how 00:04:11.823 --> 00:04:12.984 some learning theories are 00:04:13.063 --> 00:04:14.485 or even just for quick 00:04:14.525 --> 00:04:15.686 reminders sometimes I'll 00:04:15.705 --> 00:04:16.887 have read through material 00:04:17.047 --> 00:04:19.209 and I know I know it I know 00:04:19.269 --> 00:04:20.189 I've read it but I don't 00:04:20.228 --> 00:04:21.250 remember where and that's 00:04:21.290 --> 00:04:22.511 always the most frustrating 00:04:22.531 --> 00:04:23.492 thing as a learner I think 00:04:23.531 --> 00:04:25.252 is you know you learned 00:04:25.293 --> 00:04:26.613 something you know you read 00:04:26.673 --> 00:04:27.834 it but you can't remember 00:04:27.894 --> 00:04:29.776 which page it was in and 00:04:29.815 --> 00:04:31.237 enough to find it fast 00:04:31.276 --> 00:04:32.137 enough then you just quit 00:04:32.158 --> 00:04:33.298 and just do whatever anyway 00:04:33.899 --> 00:04:35.519 and I think that the having 00:04:35.620 --> 00:04:37.862 spark there for me to

go okay I'm 00:04:38.562 --> 00:04:40.483 What, for example, 00:04:40.524 --> 00:04:41.283 if someone was wondering 00:04:41.925 --> 00:04:43.225 what learning theories were, 00:04:43.266 --> 00:04:44.247 what the names of certain 00:04:44.286 --> 00:04:45.267 learning theories so that 00:04:45.627 --> 00:04:46.889 you can get the differences 00:04:46.949 --> 00:04:48.350 and remember the basics of 00:04:48.389 --> 00:04:50.771 that and even get into more detail, 00:04:51.052 --> 00:04:52.052 Spark's there to go, okay, 00:04:52.112 --> 00:04:53.754 remind me about learning theories again. 00:04:53.795 --> 00:04:56.096 And then what is behaviorism? 00:04:56.357 --> 00:04:58.338 And then, you know, okay, that's the one, 00:04:58.619 --> 00:04:59.439 that's the resource I'm 00:04:59.478 --> 00:05:00.740 looking for for my project. 00:05:00.779 --> 00:05:02.581 So then I can go back and find more. 00:05:02.721 --> 00:05:03.762 what I'm looking for without 00:05:03.822 --> 00:05:05.043 having to remember like 00:05:05.463 --> 00:05:06.403 every tiny detail. 00:05:06.444 --> 00:05:06.725 So that's good. 00:05:08.105 --> 00:05:09.406 So that's an active learning 00:05:09.425 --> 00:05:10.026 piece where you're, 00:05:10.047 --> 00:05:11.728 you're engaging with the, 00:05:11.767 --> 00:05:12.968 with the content and, 00:05:13.189 --> 00:05:15.470 and as you engage with it, it sticks. 00:05:15.529 --> 00:05:15.891 Definitely. 00:05:16.550 --> 00:05:18.012 My favorite term is creates 00:05:18.072 --> 00:05:18.892 durable learning. 00:05:19.812 --> 00:05:20.194 Definitely. 00:05:20.514 --> 00:05:21.293 Sticky learning. 00:05:21.334 --> 00:05:21.894 Yeah. 00:05:21.954 --> 00:05:24.576 So my thought is with that, 00:05:26.177 --> 00:05:27.879 we have the technology in there. 00:05:28.038 --> 00:05:30.961 You use that and it sounds like it's, 00:05:31.932 --> 00:05:33.673 you can really individualize 00:05:33.713 --> 00:05:34.915 the content that you get 00:05:34.956 --> 00:05:37.019 through simply the conversations. 00:05:37.059 --> 00:05:38.440 But how else do you make the 00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:40.442 courses personal to you? 00:05:41.867 --> 00:05:43.749 It depends on the exact 00:05:43.769 --> 00:05:44.608 assignment I'm doing. 00:05:44.689 --> 00:05:45.468 Sometimes there are some 00:05:45.509 --> 00:05:46.389 things because I have 00:05:46.449 --> 00:05:47.449 professional experience, 00:05:47.509 --> 00:05:48.790 I have more understanding 00:05:48.870 --> 00:05:49.690 of based on that. 00:05:50.990 --> 00:05:51.971 In those contexts, 00:05:52.071 --> 00:05:54.072 I might actually start by 00:05:54.612 --> 00:05:55.713 having a conversation with 00:05:55.752 --> 00:05:57.252 Spark first to go, okay, 00:05:57.353 --> 00:05:58.713 am I really understanding 00:05:58.754 --> 00:06:00.233 this based on my previous 00:06:00.254 --> 00:06:03.115 experience as well as I think I do? 00:06:03.295 --> 00:06:05.096 Usually in those conversations with Spark, 00:06:05.396 --> 00:06:07.196 asking about different terminology, 00:06:07.255 --> 00:06:08.396 how it's defined according 00:06:08.437 --> 00:06:09.237 to course material, 00:06:09.737 --> 00:06:11.137 It'll give me kind of a good 00:06:11.178 --> 00:06:12.980 gauge of if I'm ready to 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:14.161 continue on to create 00:06:14.180 --> 00:06:16.403 artifacts or if I really need to go back, 00:06:16.642 --> 00:06:17.824 reread some material or 00:06:17.884 --> 00:06:19.105 read material for the first 00:06:19.125 --> 00:06:22.329 time and go through the 00:06:22.369 --> 00:06:23.870 videos to really deepen my 00:06:23.910 --> 00:06:25.812 understanding before I'm ready to make, 00:06:25.831 --> 00:06:27.132 you know, 00:06:27.372 --> 00:06:29.754 projects so that's one way 00:06:29.774 --> 00:06:30.975 I'll do it sometimes I'll 00:06:30.995 --> 00:06:32.074 go the opposite direction 00:06:32.115 --> 00:06:33.975 I'll start directly from 00:06:34.016 --> 00:06:35.117 the course material then 00:06:35.177 --> 00:06:36.156 have conversations with 00:06:36.177 --> 00:06:37.598 spark or I'll loop back to 00:06:37.658 --> 00:06:39.459 spark if you know something 00:06:39.838 --> 00:06:42.240 in the mid project part of 00:06:42.300 --> 00:06:43.040 it that I'm not quite 00:06:43.081 --> 00:06:44.940 understanding or if I'm 00:06:44.980 --> 00:06:46.541 wind a project specific 00:06:46.562 --> 00:06:47.502 question I'll go back to 00:06:47.543 --> 00:06:48.903 desi and go okay I don't 00:06:48.923 --> 00:06:49.983 know how to finish this 00:06:50.564 --> 00:06:51.084 I started, 00:06:51.124 --> 00:06:52.264 but I don't know where I'm going. 00:06:52.365 --> 00:06:53.925 And so Desi is a really good 00:06:53.944 --> 00:06:56.045 way to finish those projects, 00:06:56.225 --> 00:06:57.245 especially when you lose ideas. 00:06:57.266 --> 00:06:58.685 The train's going down the track. 00:07:00.627 --> 00:07:01.166 Definitely. 00:07:01.206 --> 00:07:01.567 Where are we going? 00:07:01.586 --> 00:07:01.807 I love that. 00:07:01.826 --> 00:07:04.327 Yeah, exactly. 00:07:04.367 --> 00:07:06.548 Now, as you take this on, 00:07:06.949 --> 00:07:07.889 one of the things that we 00:07:07.908 --> 00:07:09.250 designed in there that we 00:07:09.269 --> 00:07:10.209 thought was helpful was 00:07:10.867 --> 00:07:12.548 There's the competency, right, 00:07:12.848 --> 00:07:14.288 the major thing that you're 00:07:14.468 --> 00:07:15.329 learning and you're going 00:07:15.350 --> 00:07:16.189 to demonstrate it. 00:07:16.610 --> 00:07:17.951 But you get to pick the 00:07:18.050 --> 00:07:19.430 topic that you choose to 00:07:19.490 --> 00:07:20.971 demonstrate that competency. 00:07:21.012 --> 00:07:22.232 How's that kind of been for you? 00:07:22.512 --> 00:07:23.572 Is that helpful or does it 00:07:23.593 --> 00:07:24.673 leave it too wide open? 00:07:25.427 --> 00:07:26.867 No, it actually, for me, 00:07:26.908 --> 00:07:27.827 is helpful because

00:07:27.867 --> 00:07:31.990 sometimes I know if it's 00:07:32.029 --> 00:07:33.911 too specific of a deliverable, 00:07:34.071 --> 00:07:35.831 some people have different experiences. 00:07:35.891 --> 00:07:36.672 And I think it's really 00:07:36.692 --> 00:07:38.052 important when it comes to 00:07:38.653 --> 00:07:39.894 the field of instructional 00:07:39.913 --> 00:07:43.194 design because instructional design, 00:07:43.235 --> 00:07:44.415 as we mentioned earlier, 00:07:44.555 --> 00:07:47.016 is such a widespread role 00:07:47.057 --> 00:07:50.238 now because you may work for even... 00:07:51.038 --> 00:07:52.600 fast food companies or major 00:07:52.641 --> 00:07:54.562 chain corporations as an 00:07:54.601 --> 00:07:55.423 instructional designer, 00:07:55.562 --> 00:07:57.345 or you may work in an academic context, 00:07:57.425 --> 00:07:58.985 but what material you're 00:07:59.026 --> 00:08:00.968 actually using with your 00:08:01.007 --> 00:08:02.048 subject matter experts is 00:08:02.088 --> 00:08:03.149 going to differ greatly 00:08:03.189 --> 00:08:04.771 depending on who you're working for, 00:08:04.812 --> 00:08:05.391 working with. 00:08:05.853 --> 00:08:06.954 So I think the ability to 00:08:07.014 --> 00:08:09.696 customize your artifacts or 00:08:09.716 --> 00:08:10.437 the projects and 00:08:10.476 --> 00:08:11.517 deliverables within the 00:08:11.577 --> 00:08:14.281 program kind of provides a more practical 00:08:15.021 --> 00:08:16.641 application of those ID 00:08:16.682 --> 00:08:18.062 skills that you're going to use, 00:08:18.242 --> 00:08:20.324 especially aligning with 00:08:20.363 --> 00:08:21.524 where you see your career 00:08:21.564 --> 00:08:22.404 going or where you might 00:08:22.444 --> 00:08:24.065 want your career to go in the future. 00:08:24.947 --> 00:08:26.887 So I think that that agency 00:08:26.947 --> 00:08:28.728 is really helpful and a practical, 00:08:29.269 --> 00:08:30.990 also active learning aspect of, okay, 00:08:31.029 --> 00:08:32.230 what do I want to do? 00:08:32.350 --> 00:08:40.634 Not what do I have to do for this? 00:08:40.674 --> 00:08:41.475 Oh, I can't hear you. 00:08:41.556 --> 00:08:41.855 I'm sorry. 00:08:41.875 --> 00:08:41.956 Okay. 00:08:47.057 --> 00:08:47.998 We like to say you have 00:08:48.057 --> 00:08:49.458 remote control to your learning. 00:08:49.798 --> 00:08:49.979 Yeah. 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:52.100 And it sounds like you've 00:08:52.139 --> 00:08:53.640 really taken a good 00:08:53.701 --> 00:08:55.142 advantage of that and have 00:08:55.302 --> 00:08:57.222 used it to really create 00:08:57.823 --> 00:08:58.764 personalized learning for 00:08:58.783 --> 00:08:59.784 yourself on what you want 00:08:59.884 --> 00:09:01.426 to be able to kind of 00:09:01.485 --> 00:09:03.047 showcase to the world with 00:09:03.067 --> 00:09:04.147 your ID skills. 00:09:04.827 --> 00:09:06.828 And then with the program, 00:09:06.849 --> 00:09:08.169 you get a Master of Science 00:09:08.190 --> 00:09:10.030 in Instructional Design and Technology, 00:09:10.650 --> 00:09:11.392 and you earn 00:09:11.491 --> 00:09:14.853 micro-credentials like the first – 00:09:13.634 --> 00:09:14.634 micro-credential that 00:09:14.654 --> 00:09:16.216 everybody earns is the 00:09:17.436 --> 00:09:18.275 needs analysis 00:09:18.556 --> 00:09:19.495 micro-credential in the 00:09:19.535 --> 00:09:21.317 first course that we do. 00:09:22.636 --> 00:09:23.996 And you can use those 00:09:24.576 --> 00:09:25.957 micro-credentials to put on 00:09:25.998 --> 00:09:28.278 your resume now to help you 00:09:28.778 --> 00:09:30.658 with the job search or wait 00:09:30.678 --> 00:09:31.418 until your degree. 00:09:32.038 --> 00:09:32.678 It depends. 00:09:32.719 --> 00:09:34.078 It's up to you what you're looking for, 00:09:34.139 --> 00:09:35.460 right? 00:09:35.799 --> 00:09:36.620 How has it been 00:09:37.900 --> 00:09:38.522 achieving those 00:09:38.581 --> 00:09:40.163 micro-credentials and like 00:09:40.364 --> 00:09:42.365 the first one was built into the class, 00:09:42.866 --> 00:09:44.128 but the others you can do 00:09:44.349 --> 00:09:46.490 as you choose throughout the program. 00:09:47.572 --> 00:09:48.092 How is that? 00:09:48.573 --> 00:09:49.595 Help us understand that. 00:09:50.419 --> 00:09:51.500 I think it's helpful for a 00:09:51.539 --> 00:09:52.280 couple of reasons, 00:09:52.301 --> 00:09:53.900 because I think that one of 00:09:53.941 --> 00:09:55.101 the reasons I really liked 00:09:55.282 --> 00:09:56.581 this program when I was 00:09:56.601 --> 00:09:57.822 doing research before I 00:09:57.981 --> 00:09:59.663 applied is that there's a 00:09:59.743 --> 00:10:03.364 lot of practical steps in 00:10:03.384 --> 00:10:04.943 the process of being an ID 00:10:04.965 --> 00:10:05.884 that are included in this 00:10:05.924 --> 00:10:07.485 program and included in the material. 00:10:07.544 --> 00:10:08.426 And that's a lot of what I 00:10:08.446 --> 00:10:09.446 had questions about is. 00:10:10.025 --> 00:10:10.245 okay, 00:10:10.306 --> 00:10:11.866 I get the understanding of we're 00:10:11.886 --> 00:10:13.048 incorporating learning theory, 00:10:13.128 --> 00:10:15.370 reusing technology, project management, 00:10:15.409 --> 00:10:18.392 but what are the day-to-day 00:10:18.652 --> 00:10:19.952 documentation things that 00:10:20.253 --> 00:10:21.714 go alongside that? 00:10:21.734 --> 00:10:22.594 What are we going to need to 00:10:22.614 --> 00:10:25.395 be doing as the micro 00:10:25.475 --> 00:10:27.918 skills within the field to 00:10:28.038 --> 00:10:30.339 make things smoother and 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:32.740 replicable as we're creating courses? 00:10:33.380 --> 00:10:34.341 And that's one thing that 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:37.162 the micro-credentials really helps with. 00:10:37.861 --> 00:10:38.861 Both on the one side, yeah, 00:10:38.881 --> 00:10:39.903 you can put it on your LinkedIn, 00:10:39.942 --> 00:10:42.123 you

can put it on your resume right away. 00:10:42.582 --> 00:10:43.923 And I think that's also 00:10:43.962 --> 00:10:47.524 helpful in signposting for me. 00:10:47.724 --> 00:10:48.323 Okay, 00:10:48.344 --> 00:10:51.085 this is a critical skill I know now 00:10:51.504 --> 00:10:52.164 because of it. 00:10:52.205 --> 00:10:53.445 Because sometimes as we're learning, 00:10:53.465 --> 00:10:54.586 we can kind of gloss over 00:10:54.605 --> 00:10:55.566 that we did something, 00:10:55.605 --> 00:10:57.346 but the micro-credentials 00:10:57.385 --> 00:10:58.846 great because you can go like, oh, wait, 00:10:59.126 --> 00:10:59.907 yeah, that's a thing. 00:11:00.466 --> 00:11:01.927 that people want me to know how to do. 00:11:01.988 --> 00:11:03.690 And I can do that, you know, 00:11:03.850 --> 00:11:05.850 even for that confidence element of going, 00:11:05.890 --> 00:11:07.773 this is a credential, 00:11:07.812 --> 00:11:09.653 even that if you don't tell everyone, 00:11:09.693 --> 00:11:11.995 well, I can do needs analysis, you know, 00:11:12.076 --> 00:11:13.397 you can still know that for 00:11:13.417 --> 00:11:14.258 yourself going, okay, 00:11:14.638 --> 00:11:16.620 I've got these steps, but then also it's, 00:11:16.860 --> 00:11:17.760 you can include that. 00:11:19.162 --> 00:11:20.682 And that because they're 00:11:20.923 --> 00:11:22.303 both integrated sometimes 00:11:22.384 --> 00:11:23.504 and also separated, 00:11:23.645 --> 00:11:25.547 it's almost like a mini 00:11:25.567 --> 00:11:27.408 course in that you can, 00:11:28.188 --> 00:11:31.509 really dig into why we use these things, 00:11:31.789 --> 00:11:32.809 why it's important, 00:11:32.870 --> 00:11:34.390 and then produce things 00:11:34.410 --> 00:11:35.390 sometimes to actually 00:11:36.390 --> 00:11:37.750 practice those skills, you know, 00:11:37.792 --> 00:11:38.731 in an environment where I'm 00:11:38.751 --> 00:11:39.672 going to get feedback, 00:11:39.711 --> 00:11:41.192 and it's not going to be an, you know, 00:11:41.272 --> 00:11:42.952 instant fail, but I can improve. 00:11:43.013 --> 00:11:43.613 And, you know, 00:11:43.633 --> 00:11:44.993 it's an iterative kind of process, 00:11:45.013 --> 00:11:45.533 you know? 00:11:45.813 --> 00:11:46.994 Right. 00:11:47.274 --> 00:11:47.354 Yeah. 00:11:47.614 --> 00:11:48.934 That's really the key, right? 00:11:49.054 --> 00:11:49.975 Iterative process. 00:11:50.015 --> 00:11:51.076 I love the way you put that 00:11:51.116 --> 00:11:55.441 because it's not like, oh, fail. 00:11:55.501 --> 00:11:57.283 We iterate, we iterate and iterate. 00:11:57.302 --> 00:11:59.205 And that's kind of amazing. 00:12:01.167 --> 00:12:02.687 What have you gotten from the programs? 00:12:02.707 --> 00:12:04.509 You've been for four months already. 00:12:04.889 --> 00:12:06.412 What have you gotten from the program? 00:12:07.712 --> 00:12:09.355 Are there any tangible takeaways? 00:12:09.835 --> 00:12:10.676 I guess I should say. 00:12:11.504 --> 00:12:13.326 I think that the first one 00:12:13.346 --> 00:12:14.386 that comes to mind is 00:12:14.486 --> 00:12:17.190 probably how the course 00:12:17.549 --> 00:12:18.831 collects different skill 00:12:18.870 --> 00:12:21.072 sets from many different 00:12:21.092 --> 00:12:22.033 industries and kind of 00:12:22.053 --> 00:12:23.754 clarifies for me personally 00:12:23.835 --> 00:12:26.417 how my skill sets apply in 00:12:26.456 --> 00:12:27.597 the context of this field. 00:12:28.097 --> 00:12:30.120 Because that's one thing 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:32.101 that I wasn't initially 00:12:32.182 --> 00:12:33.462 sure about before starting 00:12:33.503 --> 00:12:35.283 the program was, OK, 00:12:35.464 --> 00:12:38.267 I have experience in these other areas. 00:12:38.326 --> 00:12:39.607 I've worked in these other industries, 00:12:39.648 --> 00:12:40.849 but how does that translate 00:12:41.269 --> 00:12:42.210 into being an ID? 00:12:42.789 --> 00:12:44.331 And what does that look like 00:12:44.370 --> 00:12:45.351 in this context? 00:12:45.692 --> 00:12:46.613 And especially if people are 00:12:46.653 --> 00:12:49.095 trying to change careers or 00:12:49.195 --> 00:12:50.235 add something to their career, 00:12:50.255 --> 00:12:52.197 there's always that question of, well, 00:12:52.697 --> 00:12:54.018 it's great that it's a growth industry, 00:12:54.057 --> 00:12:55.759 but what am I supposed to do with that? 00:12:55.799 --> 00:12:57.341 How does my experience even work with that, 00:12:57.400 --> 00:12:57.640 right? 00:12:58.520 --> 00:12:59.221 And that's something that 00:12:59.261 --> 00:13:00.121 I've really appreciated 00:13:00.142 --> 00:13:02.663 about this program is that the materials, 00:13:02.863 --> 00:13:04.244 like in the videos as well, 00:13:04.323 --> 00:13:06.205 there's a lot of videos of 00:13:06.304 --> 00:13:08.686 practical meetings of pain 00:13:08.725 --> 00:13:09.686 points that sometimes we 00:13:09.745 --> 00:13:10.866 may have when talking with 00:13:11.006 --> 00:13:15.068 SMEs or things where you 00:13:15.089 --> 00:13:16.168 almost get to have those 00:13:16.249 --> 00:13:18.250 interviews with people with 00:13:18.289 --> 00:13:19.870 experience in the industry going, okay, 00:13:20.490 --> 00:13:21.412 what are the hard things? 00:13:21.993 --> 00:13:22.932 What are the easy things? 00:13:23.854 --> 00:13:24.715 What do I need to know 00:13:24.754 --> 00:13:26.657 before I get into this so I 00:13:26.677 --> 00:13:27.918 can prepare myself, right? 00:13:28.457 --> 00:13:29.599 And that is really 00:13:29.719 --> 00:13:31.360 invaluable for me because it's not just, 00:13:31.500 --> 00:13:33.962 oh, this is learning theory, 00:13:34.003 --> 00:13:35.644 but this is how it's applied. 00:13:35.703 --> 00:13:36.904 These are some practical 00:13:36.966 --> 00:13:38.246 issues you may run into. 00:13:38.606 --> 00:13:40.347 Here's how we've gotten over it. 00:13:41.389 --> 00:13:42.850 I've gotten through it and

00:13:42.890 --> 00:13:43.991 helped it so it's positive 00:13:44.011 --> 00:13:45.293 interaction for everyone. 00:13:45.432 --> 00:13:46.474 And that's really been 00:13:47.774 --> 00:13:50.056 one of my bigger takeaways as well. 00:13:50.135 --> 00:13:51.076 In addition to, you know, 00:13:51.176 --> 00:13:52.537 actually learning how to be an ID, 00:13:52.576 --> 00:13:54.437 you know, they have main core, you know, 00:13:54.878 --> 00:13:56.077 but one of the maybe 00:13:56.158 --> 00:13:57.918 intangibles for me is just that, 00:13:58.178 --> 00:13:59.820 that connection element. 00:13:59.840 --> 00:14:01.240 And that's one thing I like about this. 00:14:01.321 --> 00:14:02.422 I don't have to make all 00:14:02.442 --> 00:14:03.662 those connections myself. 00:14:03.861 --> 00:14:07.724 I can go, Oh, this thing applies here. 00:14:07.783 --> 00:14:08.043 Okay. 00:14:08.104 --> 00:14:08.804 I can get that now. 00:14:09.004 --> 00:14:09.524 So yeah. 00:14:09.974 --> 00:14:10.794 That's amazing. 00:14:11.956 --> 00:14:13.878 So if you're on the live stream right now, 00:14:13.898 --> 00:14:15.480 feel free to put any questions in there. 00:14:15.500 --> 00:14:17.461 If you're watching this via recording, 00:14:17.501 --> 00:14:18.923 feel free to to just use a 00:14:18.982 --> 00:14:20.144 comment for questions and 00:14:20.163 --> 00:14:22.407 we'll get back to you during those. 00:14:22.787 --> 00:14:23.847 So really, 00:14:23.927 --> 00:14:25.269 you've had kind of a neat 00:14:25.409 --> 00:14:27.471 opportunity that that arose 00:14:28.352 --> 00:14:29.874 when you came into the 00:14:29.933 --> 00:14:32.076 program and just arose. 00:14:32.798 --> 00:14:35.400 not too long ago, maybe about a month ago, 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:36.360 I would say. 00:14:36.841 --> 00:14:39.182 And that is in the area of publishing, 00:14:39.222 --> 00:14:41.884 writing an article in the 00:14:41.923 --> 00:14:43.085 hopes of publication. 00:14:43.284 --> 00:14:45.927 What do you think about that? 00:14:46.027 --> 00:14:47.246 I mean, that's pretty cool. 00:14:47.466 --> 00:14:48.567 That is really amazing. 00:14:48.748 --> 00:14:50.068 That was something where 00:14:50.149 --> 00:14:51.730 long-term for what I was 00:14:51.769 --> 00:14:52.971 hoping for my career is I 00:14:53.030 --> 00:14:55.152 really would like to get 00:14:55.251 --> 00:14:56.913 into some more academic research. 00:14:56.952 --> 00:14:58.413 And not only, 00:14:58.474 --> 00:14:59.614 but that's one of the areas 00:14:59.634 --> 00:15:00.394 that I was wanting to 00:15:00.774 --> 00:15:02.677 to develop as a growth point 00:15:02.716 --> 00:15:04.457 for me and then as well as 00:15:04.477 --> 00:15:05.219 like improving 00:15:05.418 --> 00:15:06.379 instructional design and 00:15:06.440 --> 00:15:07.360 improving education in 00:15:07.400 --> 00:15:09.342 general and when the 00:15:09.383 --> 00:15:10.524 opportunity popped up and 00:15:10.563 --> 00:15:11.965 you you invited me to

be 00:15:12.024 --> 00:15:14.206 part of that that was um 00:15:14.226 --> 00:15:15.148 really such an amazing 00:15:15.187 --> 00:15:16.349 opportunity for me and then 00:15:16.769 --> 00:15:18.591 in this process I'm also learning 00:15:19.730 --> 00:15:22.153 more practical and also 00:15:22.212 --> 00:15:23.472 intangible skills of how 00:15:23.552 --> 00:15:25.234 these processes go and how 00:15:27.075 --> 00:15:29.817 to do these research steps 00:15:30.236 --> 00:15:30.996 from the beginning. 00:15:31.116 --> 00:15:33.379 And everyone that I'm 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:34.899 meeting so far at LAPU has 00:15:34.918 --> 00:15:36.059 been so helpful and 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:37.400 positive and encouraging. 00:15:38.081 --> 00:15:39.381 I have never met so many 00:15:39.442 --> 00:15:42.565 encouraging people at one point, you know, 00:15:42.664 --> 00:15:44.466 in, in one institution so far. 00:15:44.546 --> 00:15:46.707 And I mean that honestly, but that is, 00:15:46.988 --> 00:15:48.489 it's really been a very 00:15:49.269 --> 00:15:50.711 helpful environment to 00:15:50.971 --> 00:15:53.173 learn those things in and also, you know, 00:15:53.312 --> 00:15:55.053 continuing to hopefully, you know, 00:15:55.433 --> 00:15:57.635 it being published, that would be amazing, 00:15:57.676 --> 00:15:59.116 but I have so much great 00:15:59.177 --> 00:16:00.278 feedback I'm getting from 00:16:00.317 --> 00:16:01.798 that process as well. 00:16:01.918 --> 00:16:04.041 So it is a lot of 00:16:04.701 --> 00:16:06.043 opportunities here as well. 00:16:06.123 --> 00:16:07.082 So that's great. 00:16:07.123 --> 00:16:07.264 So. 00:16:08.024 --> 00:16:08.384 Right. 00:16:08.443 --> 00:16:08.744 Yeah. 00:16:08.844 --> 00:16:10.904 And you're partnered with a Ph.D. 00:16:10.965 --> 00:16:14.225 to be engaged with the process as well. 00:16:14.306 --> 00:16:18.067 So you get a whole different perspective, 00:16:18.187 --> 00:16:19.508 you know, 00:16:19.528 --> 00:16:20.788 writing and researching and 00:16:20.828 --> 00:16:21.548 everything else. 00:16:21.609 --> 00:16:22.850 It just kind of comes along 00:16:22.889 --> 00:16:24.450 with what you've been doing. 00:16:24.470 --> 00:16:25.610 That's really neat. 00:16:25.671 --> 00:16:28.052 So if you had anything to 00:16:28.451 --> 00:16:29.972 any advice or any any 00:16:30.033 --> 00:16:31.173 comment to give somebody 00:16:31.192 --> 00:16:33.234 who's thinking about joining the program, 00:16:33.274 --> 00:16:33.734 what would it be? 00:16:34.868 --> 00:16:36.009 I think, firstly, 00:16:36.428 --> 00:16:37.769 just to contact you would 00:16:37.788 --> 00:16:38.408 be my first thing, 00:16:38.428 --> 00:16:40.230 just to start having those conversations. 00:16:40.889 --> 00:16:42.931 Because I think that the 00:16:42.951 --> 00:16:43.910 website has a lot of great 00:16:45.912 --> 00:16:46.711 information on it. 00:16:47.052 --> 00:16:48.452 But if someone's wondering, oh, 00:16:48.472 --> 00:16:49.452 should I contact, 00:16:49.474 --> 00:16:51.533 should I ask questions or something, 00:16:51.553 --> 00:16:52.715 just start the conversation. 00:16:53.794 --> 00:16:54.556 you know I think that 00:16:54.716 --> 00:16:56.177 initial meeting for me was 00:16:56.317 --> 00:16:58.278 really um answered some of 00:16:58.298 --> 00:16:59.780 my questions it was good to 00:17:00.020 --> 00:17:02.001 kind of put a face to the 00:17:02.763 --> 00:17:04.845 program as well um and that 00:17:04.865 --> 00:17:06.226 just that personal aspect 00:17:06.346 --> 00:17:08.127 of it not that you were 00:17:08.147 --> 00:17:09.269 trying to sell me on it you 00:17:09.288 --> 00:17:09.910 weren't but you're just 00:17:09.930 --> 00:17:10.710 like this is what the 00:17:10.730 --> 00:17:11.931 program is this is how it 00:17:11.951 --> 00:17:13.353 works and then you can see 00:17:13.472 --> 00:17:15.914 how it fits with you um and 00:17:15.954 --> 00:17:16.915 it's great and I really 00:17:17.476 --> 00:17:18.256 What I like about the 00:17:18.296 --> 00:17:20.317 program is because I'm a 00:17:20.376 --> 00:17:21.757 full-time working professional, 00:17:21.876 --> 00:17:24.758 it really does work around my schedule, 00:17:25.137 --> 00:17:26.778 which my schedule fluctuates as well. 00:17:26.817 --> 00:17:27.778 It's not very stable. 00:17:27.798 --> 00:17:28.519 You know, 00:17:28.558 --> 00:17:30.199 some months I'm extremely busy 00:17:30.318 --> 00:17:31.439 and some months I have, you know, 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:34.819 more time available and life happens, 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:36.180 you know, with family, et cetera. 00:17:36.340 --> 00:17:38.661 And what's been great is 00:17:38.701 --> 00:17:41.442 that this program really is adaptable. 00:17:41.461 --> 00:17:42.521 And I know there's a lot of 00:17:43.182 --> 00:17:44.644 online education 00:17:45.703 --> 00:17:46.984 institutions that do 00:17:47.184 --> 00:17:48.224 degrees and they're like, 00:17:48.244 --> 00:17:49.806 this is flexible, works around you. 00:17:49.885 --> 00:17:51.165 And then you're still 00:17:51.185 --> 00:17:52.166 completely stressed out 00:17:52.446 --> 00:17:53.366 about the whole process. 00:17:53.707 --> 00:17:55.548 That has not been my experience at all. 00:17:55.607 --> 00:17:57.449 Like it's as much rigor and 00:17:57.489 --> 00:17:59.088 as much speed as you wanna 00:17:59.128 --> 00:18:01.589 get out of it is what's available. 00:18:01.670 --> 00:18:03.270 So if I wanna run through things, 00:18:03.310 --> 00:18:04.811 you're very supportive for me to do that. 00:18:04.852 --> 00:18:07.173 And just to accomplish 00:18:07.472 --> 00:18:09.794 artifacts and get that feedback faster. 00:18:09.854 --> 00:18:10.653 And if there's some things I 00:18:10.713 --> 00:18:12.375 need to sit with or life happens, 00:18:14.215 --> 00:18:15.196 I don't feel like there's 00:18:15.237 --> 00:18:17.439 any guilt coming from you going, oh, well, 00:18:17.459 --> 00:18:18.619 you

didn't finish this thing. 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:20.320 It's not quite done yet. 00:18:20.740 --> 00:18:22.883 As long as I get it done in the semester, 00:18:22.923 --> 00:18:24.884 then it gets done and then it's fine. 00:18:25.585 --> 00:18:28.347 So that's been invaluable to 00:18:28.387 --> 00:18:30.829 me that I can be supported 00:18:30.869 --> 00:18:31.890 through this process 00:18:31.930 --> 00:18:34.613 without external stresses 00:18:34.732 --> 00:18:36.493 or pressure because life 00:18:36.513 --> 00:18:37.234 has enough pressure. 00:18:38.316 --> 00:18:39.497 Life does. 00:18:39.856 --> 00:18:40.958 And learning should be exciting. 00:18:41.657 --> 00:18:42.097 Definitely. 00:18:42.798 --> 00:18:44.019 We wanted to accomplish that 00:18:44.038 --> 00:18:44.838 with this program. 00:18:46.579 --> 00:18:48.339 It's been amazing for you to 00:18:48.380 --> 00:18:50.421 be in here for the four months, 00:18:50.480 --> 00:18:51.800 begin writing an article 00:18:52.820 --> 00:18:53.781 and doing just all the 00:18:53.821 --> 00:18:54.561 different things that 00:18:54.582 --> 00:18:55.902 you've done within the 00:18:55.942 --> 00:18:57.363 program and outside of the program. 00:18:57.383 --> 00:18:58.022 It's been amazing. 00:18:58.584 --> 00:18:59.724 to be able to get to know you. 00:18:59.744 --> 00:19:00.585 And that's what we like to 00:19:00.625 --> 00:19:02.266 do within LAPU in general, 00:19:02.286 --> 00:19:06.468 not just the MSIDT program, but you know, 00:19:06.827 --> 00:19:07.848 it's about people. 00:19:08.249 --> 00:19:09.548 We use technology a lot. 00:19:09.588 --> 00:19:10.930 We love technology. 00:19:11.690 --> 00:19:13.971 We have AI everywhere and we love it, 00:19:14.011 --> 00:19:14.471 but it's, 00:19:14.971 --> 00:19:15.932 we understand that that's 00:19:16.372 --> 00:19:18.772 just one part of that support piece. 00:19:19.452 --> 00:19:21.213 We enjoy making those connections. 00:19:21.233 --> 00:19:22.294 And people, 00:19:22.394 --> 00:19:24.775 that's the key to all of our success. 00:19:24.815 --> 00:19:27.076 So thank you so much, Jessica, 00:19:27.115 --> 00:19:29.476 for talking with everybody 00:19:29.695 --> 00:19:30.737 and letting them know your 00:19:30.777 --> 00:19:32.017 thoughts about the program. 00:19:32.237 --> 00:19:33.037 Of course. 00:19:33.076 --> 00:19:34.538 Any final word before we leave? 00:19:35.579 --> 00:19:36.980 Now, just get started. 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:37.299 You know, 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:38.580 if you want to make that change 00:19:38.621 --> 00:19:39.861 in your life, you want to take that, 00:19:40.461 --> 00:19:41.101 get that degree, 00:19:41.141 --> 00:19:42.221 you want to do something different. 00:19:42.582 --> 00:19:44.021 This is absolutely a program 00:19:44.061 --> 00:19:44.721 I'd recommend. 00:19:44.862 --> 00:19:46.481 I honestly do recommend it to people. 00:19:47.103 --> 00:19:48.863 And if you want to make that 00:19:49.423 --> 00:19:50.903 shift into instructional design, 00:19:51.463 --> 00:19:53.144 absolutely start here. 00:19:53.263 --> 00:19:54.223 It's a good program to start 00:19:54.263 --> 00:19:55.483 with great people to work with. 00:19:55.503 --> 00:19:56.505 So you might, 00:19:56.984 --> 00:19:58.005 maybe I'll work with you in the future. 00:19:58.065 --> 00:19:59.964 We'll see. 00:20:00.025 --> 00:20:00.465 Well, awesome. 00:20:00.486 --> 00:20:01.026 Well, thank you so much. 00:20:01.246 --> 00:20:01.846 Yeah, thank you too. 00:20:01.905 --> 00:20:02.306 Have a good day.