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Welcome to The History Guy podcast,
a podcast dedicated to stories of lesser known
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historical events told by Lance Geiger,
also known as the History Guy on YouTube.
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I'm Josh your host, a writer
for The Channel and eldest son of
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the History Guy. We tell all
kinds of stories about history, from the
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modern era to the ancient past.
See you never know what we're going to
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talk about next. One thing you
can be sure of it is history that
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deserves to be remembered. On today's
episode, the History Guy tells two stories
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of the age of exploration and explorers
whose names you likely know, but whose
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stories you might not. First is
the story of Ferdinand Magellan and the ignominious
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end to his famous expedition. Then
the History Guy tells the story of Bidas
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Behring, a Danish sailor who explored
the Russian Far East and Alaska. In
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between, we talk about exploration,
European colonization, and just how easy it
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is for history to be lost.
Without further ado, let me introduce the
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History Guy. If you studied history
in high school, you might have heard
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that Ferdinand Magellan was the first person
to circumnavigate the globe. And if that's
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what you heard, or that's what
you remember, you would be wrong.
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While Magellan's expedition from fifteen nineteen to
fifteen twenty two was the first to circumnavigate
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the globe, Magellan himself didn't make
it the whole way. He actually died
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in fifteen twenty one in the Kingdom
of Mactan, which is part of the
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modern day country of the Philippines.
And it was another one of his officers,
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one Sebastian Elcano, who actually completed
the circumnavigation of the globe. But
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it's not just interesting that Magellen didn't
make it the whole way and that people
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in the West don't seem to remember
that Magellan didn't make it the whole way,
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because it's important why Magellan didn't make
it the whole way, because in
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the Philippines the death of Ferdinand Magellan
is considered one of the most important events
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in history, and here in the
West we really have no idea that he
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even died, and we really should
know how and why he died, because
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it provides a really great lesson on
the nature of the era of discovery and
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conquest, and it explains a lot
about world politics today. And so today
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we are going to remember the well
remembered in the Philippines and forgotten in the
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Western world, fifteen twenty one Battle
of Machtan. To understand how Magellen came
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to die in the Philippine Islands,
you have to understand a little bit about
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how Magellen came to be in the
Philippine Islands, and that all has to
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do with a treaty that was signed
in fourteen ninety four between the Kingdom of
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Portugal and the Kingdom of Castile in
Spain. And essentially the purpose of the
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treaty was to divide up the New
World between Portugal and Spain. Now I
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understand this treaty didn't pay any attention
to the interests of say, other European
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countries in the New World, and
it certainly didn't pay any attention to the
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interests of hundreds of millions of indigenous
people who thought of the New World as
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you know home. But it was
intended to reduce conflict between Spain and Portugal
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over the New Lands. And essentially
what the treaty did is that drew a
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line down the middle of the Atlantic
Ocean and said Portugal gets east and Spain
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gets west, and that offered a
unique challenge for Spain because Spain wanted access
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to the Spice Islands, but because
of the treaty, they couldn't do that
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by going around Africa, and so
what they really needed was a route that
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would go around the Americas, the
lands that were discovered by Columbus, and
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go westerly to the Spice Islands,
a western route to the Spice Islands,
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and that's where Ferdinand Magellen comes in. Now, ironically, Magellan himself was
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Portuguese, but he brought a proposal
to the King of Spain, Charles the
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First, to lead an expedition to
identify the western route, and Charles the
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First agreed to fund an expedition that
included five ships and about two hundred and
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seventy sailors, and that expedition kicked
off in August of fifteen nineteen. After
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spending the winter in South America,
Magellan discovered this strait that allows you to
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go around South America that's not called
the Strait of Magellan in
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November of fifteen
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twenty, and by then he was
already down to just three ships. One
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had been wrecked, one had mutinied
and returned back to Spain. And so
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those three ships went through the Strait
of Magellan, and by November twenty eighth
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they were the first Europeans to enter
the Pacific Ocean. After being the first
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Europeans to visit the island of Guam, they went on and by March twenty
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first of fifteen twenty one, became
the first Europeans in the Philippine Island.
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And there Magellan found an ally in
the form of Humabon, who was the
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Raja or king of the rajen Ate
of Sipooh, which was in the southern
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part of the Philippine Islands. And
Raja Humaban and his wife converted to Catholicism,
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the first to do so in the
Philippines, and then the Raja sent
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an order throughout his kingdom saying that
everybody should convert to Catholicism and that they
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should send food and supplies for Magellan's
ships. Well. The order was generally
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followed except for just one of Humaban's
chieftains, one of the Datu, or
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the chieftains of the island of mock
Tom, whose name was Lapu Lapo,
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and Lapou Lapo said that he would
not convert to Catholicism and that he would
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not follow the orders of the King
of Spain, and so Humaban suggested that
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Magellan take his ships over to Mocton
and force Lapu Lapoo to submit. It's
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clear that Magellan was over confident because
he took with him just sixty men,
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and even though he had warriors of
Humaban with him, he told them to
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stay in the ships because he wanted
them to witness the power of his European
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weapons. The actual battle was on
April twenty seventh, and because he left
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a few of his men to guard
his boats, Magellan only had forty nine
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men with him, whereas Lapu Lapo
had fifteen hundred warriors. And we don't
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know much about lap Poo Lapoo,
but it turns out that he was a
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pretty brilliant tactician. Nor at least
he had Magellan's strengths figured out. I
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mean, first of all, on
the island, there was so much coral
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and rock out in the ocean that
magellan ships could not get close enough to
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use their cannon, and that already
denied Magellan some of his most powerful weapons.
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But then Lapoolapoo kept his warriors at
a good enough distance that Magellan's men,
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with their muskets and crossbows couldn't do
a lot of damage, and he
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waited to charge until they were almost
out of ammunition. When his fifteen hundred
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men dent charge, Lapoo Lapoo told
them stab at the legs because while the
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Spanish wore a good armor, they
didn't armor their legs. And most importantly,
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Lapou Lapoo told them kill the leader, so that they all charged Magellan
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because Lapoo Lapoo knew that the whole
attack would fail if Magellan fell, and
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so fifteen hundred guys came to stab
Ferdinand Magellan. Magellan was swamped and killed.
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Now many of his troops got away, but they lost about fourteen other
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troops in the battle. And why
a battle where only fourteen died doesn't seem
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like a big deal. The actual
loss of Jellon delayed the Spanish dominance of
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the Philippines by around forty years.
With the loss of so many people in
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the battle, the expedition didn't have
enough sailors left to operate three ships,
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so one of the ships was abandoned, one tried to return home via the
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Pacific route, the way that they
came, and one decided to try to
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return home via the Indian Ocean and
around the Horn of Africa, and that's
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the only ship that made it back. Of the two hundred and seventy one
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sailors that had left on the expedition, there were only eighteen on that boat
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that returned to Spain, with one
Sebastian Elcano that had circumnavigated the globe.
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We really don't know what happened to
Lapoo Lapoo. There's no record of his
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death, but according to local legend, he didn't die. He turned into
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a stone, and local fishermen still
throw coins at a vaguely human shaped rock
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in the ocean there to thank Lapoo
Lapoo for the privilege of fishing in his
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waters. The Battle of Macton is
important for a few different reasons. Of
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course, with the death of Ferdinand
Magellan, who was a very powerful personality
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and who clearly would have done more
in his life if he hadn't ended up
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on the end of a spear.
It also represents the errors that were
commonly
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made by Europeans in the age of
discovery and conquest. That err against that
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underestimating the local population, that overestimating
the power of European arms, and that
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inability or unwillingness to understand local customs
and power structures, and those errors would
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be repeated again and again in the
Far East, in the Pacific, in
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Africa, and in South America.
But most of all, the Battle of
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Mactan is important for the people of
the Philippine Islands. I mean immediately,
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one of the effects was it was
many years before Spain can ount another meaningful
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expedition to the Philippine Islands. But
in the long run, Lapoo Lapoo has
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retroactively become the symbol of Philippine resistance
to foreign rule, which has really been
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a cause in the Philippine Islands since
the sixteenth century. And that's a little
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bit anachronistic because the fight, the
Battle of Mactan was really over local power
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structures in the kingdom. But the
reason that Lapoo Lapoo resisted was because he
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did not want to have a European
religion forced on him. And so he
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is this symbol for people who fight
the age of exploration and conquest. There
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are several statues of Lapoo Lapoo.
There are the main city in Mactan is
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named Lapoo Lapoo City. Lapoo Lapoo's
head was on the once Centavo coin in
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the nineteen sixties and nineteen seventies,
and the people of Mactan still annually re
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enact the Battle of Mactan. And
that's a real irony because here we have
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Ferdinand Magellan, who is a man
whose navigational skills were so important that there
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are several geographic features on Earth named
after Ferdinand Magellan. But there are actually
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craters on the Moon and on Mars
that are named after Ferdinand Magellan, and
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two of the closest galaxies to the
Earth are named after Ferdinand Magellan. And
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yet is death is a symbol to
people who oppose everything that his navigational skills
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brought, which was the theft of
their land and their culture. And that
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irony alone is enough reason for you
to know about the fifteen twenty one Battle
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of Muktan. Now is the part
of the episode where we get to chat
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with the history guy about what these
episodes tell us about history, interesting connections
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to other stories, and some behind
the scenes stuff that you only get to
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hear about on the podcast. So
the two episodes we're talking about today are
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about explorers, and these are interesting
explorers who did very very different things.
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But I think both you know,
there's some pieces of these stories that really
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connect them as well. I think
we also, you know, we kind
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of live in a world today where
there's there seems like there's a lot less
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to explore, and certainly we have
passed the age of these this kind of
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explorer. They're going to be very
different. Kinds can literally take pictures from
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space and see, you know what
the things that they were looking for are.
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I mean, I think there's still
various kinds of expersons. There's clearly
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there's deep sea exploration. We're actually
reaching the point where there could literally be
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space exploration, which is, you
know, something that we've talked about for
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a long time and that might actually
come in our lifetimes. Yeah. But
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certainly the world was a very well
clearly in the sixteenth century of the world
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was a very different place. But
even in the eighteenth century in terms of
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going to find things, and you
know, it's still i mean, we
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still find new species in you know, in deep jungle and stuff like that,
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and so you know, I think
there's still some exploration going along.
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But the period when you know,
a million mariners died of scurvy, Yeah,
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find a map of the world.
Yeah, that's pretty much over.
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Yeah, I mean there's still if
you want to go someplace no one's gone
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before, people are still you know, finding things here and there where you
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can do that. Yeah, it's
it's interesting too. You know, we've
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kind of mythologized this era and a
lot of these these explorers, and I
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mean, I think these stories both
show us both the ways that we've done
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that and the ways that the difficulties
that they really faced. Actually, I
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mean these are two explorers who names
you would certainly know, and but I
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mean, you know the purpose of
that first the first episode, that one
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on Magellan is I don't think actually
that most people realize that Magellan did not
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successfully complete the voyage. I mean, we're just kind of top Magellan circumnavigated
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the globe, and actually he got
halfway there. Now there's some argument because
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he had gone the other way before
that maybe the two pieces touched, but
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the first voyage of circumnavigation was not
completed by Magellan, and so that says
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that we have mythologized them a bit, and we talk about it as Magellan's
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expedition, though it was really an
expedition of many more than that. And
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we also make came out to be
quite a hero when there was you know,
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certainly ways that he was not necessarily
as a matter of fact, Lapoo
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Lapoo, the guy that finally,
you know, put an end to magell
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and is much considered a hero,
much more considered a hero in the Philippines
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than Magellan is. Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean I think that
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you know, there's there's lots of
criticisms and quite a bit of it's fair
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about how these explorers went around and
treated people, and oh absolutely Magellum was
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just kidnapping people along the way.
He had two people he called Patagonian giants,
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which are just two guys he grabbed
off the beach. To imagine,
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we're surprised the families price priced when
they didn't get home. And when they
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first discovered Guam, the people from
Guam stole up stele a boat off the
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They probably thought it was a trade
for food, which they desperately needed,
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but they stole a boat off as
a ship. And so he sent a
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bunch of guys on shore and just
like murdered seven guys, murned the whole
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village on the ground trying to get
his skiff back. So yeah, I
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mean, there's a lot of criticism
about how the Westerners did it. But
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I mean also you see in the
whole story of Magellan, I mean everywhere
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that he went, kind of the
people saw him as a political opportunity.
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They said, look at these guys, that we can use these guys.
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And it was really, really in
the end, that was what was his
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undoing, was that he was pulled
into local politics and you know, yeah,
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you know, if they ended up
in a fight, he couldn't win,
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if there's some nuance and kind of
how that went across I mean,
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honestly across the globe, you would
say we I mean that that was true
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with the Inca they were in the
middle of the civil war. That was
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true with the Aztecs because of the
various peoples they had conquered. They all,
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you know, this all happened within
this context, and there was always
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local political stuff. And I think
that there's I mean, there's always was.
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we see that in European colonization in
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the early in the early English colonies
and the North America, is that they
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were there were always native peoples who
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I can, if I can allie
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them against them. Actually, that
was one of the first things that Columbus
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really is governed too, was it
was being drawn into you know, local
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tribal conflicts. So and that's you
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guys at most show up to a
place as you know, a million inhabitants,
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then you know they're they're not going
to change history by themselves. I
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guess nothing changes the histories of the
past, but they're not going to transform
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what's going on by themselves. But
you can see how local leaders can say,
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now I can manipulate these people,
and you can see actually how in
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the position they're in, they could
be easily manipulated. But I mean,
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in the end, in the colonial
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I don't know, but I mean
these are both stories of that.
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I mean, these both and people
that were you know, taking extreme risks
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to go places, and both of
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in that. Yes, you know, a lot of it has to do
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with with misunderstanding. I think that. I mean, I think it's clear
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that the Europeans tended to think that
they were the enlightened ones. And I
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mean when we look back, that
happens a lot too, is that they
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think, oh, the natives just
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natives is that they very much understood
a lot of what they were getting into,
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and that's why they were always I
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each other and against or with European
powers as they came, and it was
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it was much more complex than just
you know this. I mean, Magellan
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went to the Battle of Maktan with
forty dudes, and he was he had
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allies, but he left them on
the ships because he was quite sure that
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they were so technologically superior that if
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that would so demonstrate their force that
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spears. And so, I mean
he clearly believed, you know that there
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was just this that he was morally
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that the that they were you know, that he was fighting barbarians.
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And it's it's clear throughout that that
certainly Lapoo Lapu understood who he was and
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what his capabilities were and how to
use those and you know, said,
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you know, kill the leader and
they're all run away, and that's exactly
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how things worked out. So it
is I mean, it is a matter
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and you know, but of course
the Europeans had an outsized influence given the
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size there of the good that they
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they underestimated the natives in many ways
at many times, and many times that
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caught up with European colonizers or explorers. Well, and certainly Magellan probably had
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heard about this. Was this was
fairly early. I mean that this,
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you know, in fifteen twenty one
is the same year that the Aztec Empire
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falls, So he hadn't I mean, this was before the Inca, which,
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of course, with the Inca,
I mean a fairly small number of
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Spaniards did fight thousands. Yeah,
because they got there at a critical point
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though too, when you know,
when when the Kamaker difference. Yeah,
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because in the middle of a civil
warrior. Yeah, but it's it's so
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you can see where he had thought. I mean, he he had probably
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heard stories of you know, how
amazed and whether those stories were embellished or
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not. How amazed. You know, these natives were with with European technology,
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and he clearly certainly believed that he
would be able to just fire his
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guns and they would they would simply
rue. I think they felt with their
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armor that they were going to be
pretty much invulnerable to their weapons. And
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I don't know, you and I
both played Civilization. You wonder if you
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wonder how a failings can beat Musketeer
as well? Yeah happen. Yeah,
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I do occasionally wonder you're playing that
game and your armor gets destroyed by a
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legionary or something, and you're like, come on, no number of Romans
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could blow up my tank. See, that was the mistake. But Jellan
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may he made that. I do
wonder, you know, I mean Lapu
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lap who doesn't seem to have had
any special knowledge. He just seems to
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have approached the situation. Yeah,
I mean, I mean what I mean,
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was it intentional that he chose a
place to defend that would keep their
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ships too far away that they could
use the ship cannon? Did he know
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that? And but I mean he
he certainly was a good strategist. You
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know, he wouldn't be stupid.
He was a leader, He was a
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local leader and so I mean,
but on the on the other hand,
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maybe you know, maybe what could
have happened there is they fire off their
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arquebuses and that scares the begibus out
of Lapo LAPO's troops, and maybe,
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you know, and who knows how
different history would be if he'd won the
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Battle of Mactan. But you know, it turns out that the natives are
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more resilient than he thought they would
be, and that did leave his whole
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expedition in quite a crisis too.
It's actually kind of surprising any of them
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made it home after the death of
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wasn't even the thought of our leadership. Later the other you know, the
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guy who converted to Christianity ends up
poisoning more of the of the Spaniards because
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they were mistreating you know, which, yeah, that's fairly typical of that,
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so it is. And that's that's
another episode that's not in this one
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where where one captain, one Sebastian
you know, takes one of the boats
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and manages to get that tuck your
home and complete the circumnavigation of the which
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wasn't even the intent wasn't wasn't circumnavigation, right, they would they would have
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gone back the way that they came. Uh and one chip tried to do
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that ended up getting captured by the
Portuguese. I mean it just you know,
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it didn't work out altogether. So
it is I mean, it was
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a more tenuous expedition that I mean, honestly than what I learned when I
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was in high school and we were
talking about the Age of Discovery and we
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didn't really talk all that much,
you know, in my era, we
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didn't talking that much about, you
know, how terrible they treated the natives,
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but we also didn't really talk about
how what a real miracle it was
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that any of them managed to make
it back. And I didn't know until
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this is an older episode. Is
when I started doing this, I didn't
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know that Magellan hadn't made it all
the way around the world. I mean,
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it was a surprise to me,
and if you look at the comments
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in this video, it's a surprise
to a lot of people. So it
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just it also represents you know,
the foibles of how we've taught history in
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the past. Well, and he's
he really is. I mean, you
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don't usually learn that much about his
expedition. You learned that he was the
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first guy to circumnavigate and it's it
is it is kind of funny to think
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that he he didn't really the expedition. And I mean, the cool thing
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about the expeditions they did have someone
who chronic pitchup, oh, chronicle it
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the whole way, and so we
it's it's hard to see what to read
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from Pichipato. I mean, there's
some there's some ways said that that might
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be biased, but at least we
get this kind of idea of what happened
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on that whole expedition. Yeah,
which is amazing. And think of how
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easy it would have been for you
know, no one to make it back.
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And yeah, this is by the
time they were getting across the Pacific,
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I mean they were they were dying
of scurvy. They were well the
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ship with most supplies had turned and
gone back, and they had a mutiny
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and they lost the ship to handles
the supply. So they were starving so
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much that they were eating boot leather. They were catching the rats and eating
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the rats, and then they were
eating the food that the rats had you
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know, spoiled. Uh, And
they were I mean they were nearly starved
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by the time any first placed that
they ran into a bomb they were,
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they were nearly starved to death there, and you know it's a miracle that
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they survived to get where they were. Uh and uh so, I mean
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the whole story too, of it
is just how dangerous exploration is. There's
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an awful lot of these explorers,
like Sir John Franklin too. I mean
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there's a lot of these explorers that
never came home. I mean great explorers,
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people that we have, you know, with all this respect for and
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in the end they Roald Amonson one
day got into a plane to go search
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for a lost Italian explorer was never
seen again. I mean that's exploring,
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was it was. It's still a
risky business. I mean we saw that
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when the submarine you crushed this last
year too, and so I mean when
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you go where where no one's gone
before, then you know you're always taken
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a risk, and some of that
risk as you might not come home.
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And one of those that didn't was
for Nan Magellia. And yet he's he's
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remembered for for doing something incredible,
even if maybe he didn't. I mean,
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there's there's there's there's an awful lot
named after him, a lot in
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space named after him. But but
you know, he's he's remembered in the
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Philippines because every year they re enact
the Battle of Mactan, and of course
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we know who won that particular fight. Yeah, yeah, and that's that's
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an interesting piece too. I think
sometimes it's really interesting to kind of see
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uh, history from you know,
the point of view of some other people,
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because that's absolutely it is difficult sometimes
to to you know, kind of
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get outside of your own your own
narratives and
stuff. I mean, that's
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yeah, you have to. You
have to look at a different side of
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staff seeing Magellan as a hero or
he's not necessarily seen as a hero.
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And the you know, in the
place where the Spanish diviension conquered well controlled
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for a long period of time,
I can understand why the Filipinos maybe don't
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because he he was he was the
first of essentially a wave that eventually you'll
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colonizes all of the Philippines. It
would take of a yeah, plenty of
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plenty of things that they might they
might wish didn't happen, but you have
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to with all the leaders there,
you have to wonder would Lapoo Lapoo be
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remembered at all if he hadn't killed
fernand and he's barely remembered as it is.
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Is that I mean, well,
I mean we don't really know much
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about it, don't know that much
about him. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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there's very very little record of who
Lapoola who was. But I mean
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he's I mean, he was on
the the on the the Philippine currency for
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a long time and amazing his culture
is he's the hero because he's the one
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that fought the Europeans when they first
showed up. But he's quite possible this
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sort of person whose name would have
been long forgotten. Where it not that
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he killed a guy who we remember, you know, on the other side
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of the world, and so his
name is and it's possible, you know,
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I was looking into some of it. This is possibly. You know,
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we talked about how they were manipulated
and how people how the natives were
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playing into their politics. It's it
seems like Magellen's understanding was that the king,
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that he the king, the leader
he talked to that this was like
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one of his lord, one of
his And it's not real clear that that's
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true. I read one thing that's
pretty clear that La might have actually been
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the more powerful of the two in
that relationship. It's pretty clear that they're
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like, you know that guy,
Yeah, go mess with him. Why
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didn't because in the end, you
know, that doesn't hurt. Whatever happens
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there is like, well, either
that's going to happen, where's it going
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to happen?
They might kill Magellan, We don't care. I don't care
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that much about Magellan. And gosh, he didn't even use the the native
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soldiers who just hung out in their
boats. Was supposed to be impressed by
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his success in battle, yeah,
which which you know, if it had
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worked out the way he wanted it
to, could have could have been a
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very different might have Yeah, who
knows, you know, maybe it's hard
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to say. I mean, it's
if he had, if he had succeeded
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in the Battle of mocked On,
you know, how much would that change
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things. It might have sped the
Spanish conquests of the Philippines, or you
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know, it might They were still
a small number of people in leaky boats
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by that point, so maybe,
you know, maybe not the say they
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tend to you know, any of
these stories that we talk about when they're
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usually treated fairly well by the by
the locals, at least at first,
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and the Europeans are generally in rougher
condition. They're welcome quickly led on.
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You know, they're they're very many
miles from home and it took a month
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to get here, and half their
guys are dead. And they always have
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dissension in the ranks too. There's
always seems to be a disagreements and yeah,
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yeah, there's always something that's interesting
because this is in the early part
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of the sixteenth century and we're we're
also going to be talking about the eighteenth
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century today and we have very similar
circumstances in some in some different ways.
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know, the one thing I wanted to
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talk about, you know, this
was an older video. I always I
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always wonder when we look at some
of these older ones. Honestly, in
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some ways, the only real difference, I mean, there's there's some quality
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difference just from your equipment, absolutely, but is the last it's always you
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can certainly tell the ones that were
where the lights were yellow and where it
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sounds like I'm talking into a can
and that you know, I have reinvested
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some of that, We've made from
in order to put together better equipment.
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And of course now I have a
writer, so which we'll see the other
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episode we talked about today you wrote
at the time, you know that was
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just me. And if you want
to believe that these early episodes they were
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handwritten in a notebook I haven't on
somewhere. They weren't even written down.
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So the only reason we have a
record of them is because YouTube produces a
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transcript. Transcript, keep a hold
of the It's clear that it was I
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believe that this is the first episode
where I wore the bow tie. Oh
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wow, this is the one that
set the whole standard for the history.
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Got bow tie thing, And that's
actually a Mickey Mouse bow tie that I'm
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worrying that I had. Wow,
I happened to have and I put on
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Next up, the History Guy tells the
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story of Vitis bearing and the Great
Northern Expedition. You probably know something of
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the story of the European discovery of
North America. Vikings probably first reached the
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shores of North America around one thousand
years ago, and of course Columbus brought
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back word of the New World about
five hundred years later. But while Europeans
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were colonizing the east coast of North
America, the west coast of North America
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was still largely unknown to Europeans.
It wasn't until the eighteenth century that Russia
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decided to explore their Pacific coast,
sending a Danish explorer to map the farthest
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reaches of their dominion and determined once
and for all whether Asia and North America
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were connected. That Danish explorer's name
was very nearly lost to history, and
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while you might recognize the name today, you've probably never heard his story.
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It is history that deserves to be
remembered. The territory that makes up modern
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Russia was conquered largely from various Golden
Horde successor states. During their decline.
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In the fourteen hundreds, the Grand
Duchy of Moscow sometimes called Muscabite Russia began
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to expand from its core around Moscow
west into Europe and north, south and
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east into the areas now controlled by
modern Russia. In fifteen forty seven,
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Ivan the Terrible was crowned the first
Tsar, thus creating the Tzardom of Russia.
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After Ivan, successive Russian czars and
merchants pressed eastward, finding little organized
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resistance in the Khanates and natives of
Siberia. Russian policy was harsh on the
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Siberian natives. Russian agents collected isak
or fur tribute from the people there and
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forced them to adopt Russian ways.
As in America, local populations were devastated
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by diseases like smallpox, despite continual
resistance from Siberia's peoples. By the time
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Peter the Great became Czar in sixteen
eighty two, Russia had pressed its control
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across the continent and even thought a
war with China. In Europe, however,
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Russia was seen as a backwater,
archaic and barbaric state. Tzar Peter
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explored Europe incognito and decided to make
Russia relevant to Europe. He made major
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cultural, military, and social reforms
to bring Russian society nearer Europes. This
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included a focus on scientific study,
and in seventeen twenty three he began drawing
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foreign scholars to his newly built capital
of Saint Petersburg to educate Russian scientists and
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grow his own academy. Peter's house
began deteriorating in seventeen twenty four, in
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as Lung held plans to explore Siberia's
eastern reaches suddenly became a priority. He
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become interested in the idea that the
continents connected, and so he ordered an
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expedition to be made post haste to
the far off coast of Kumpchatka. His
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orders were to prepare ships in Kumchatka
and to search for the place that land
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might be joined to America from their
processes to some settlement belonging to a European
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power. Preparations began, and on
January ninth, seventeen twenty five, Peter
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esca danish Man serving in the Russian
Navy named Vitis Bearing to command the voyage.
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Bidis
Bearing was born in Denmark on
August fifth, sixteen eighty one.
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His family was reasonably well off,
and several of his brothers attended university.
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Bidis, however, took a different
path, and by fifteen he was serving
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as a ship's boy. He traveled
extensively after that, going as far Afield
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as Indian, the Dutch East Indies, as well as the Caribbean and European
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colonies in the Americas. He completed
naval officer training in Amsterdam. In seventeen
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o four, Bearing enlisted with a
quickly evolving Russian Navy, which was then
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fighting the protracted Great Northern War,
which lasted from seventeen hundred to seventeen twenty
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one. By seventeen twenty, Baring
was a second captain, roughly equivalent to
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the US Navy rank of commander,
though he only served in non combat roles.
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He married the daughter of a Swedish
merchant and moved permanently to Russia.
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In seventeen twenty four. He left
the Navy briefly because of a lack of
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promotion, but rejoined later that year
with a promotion to first captain. Czar
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Peter chose Bearing for his experience around
the world, and apparently because Baring was
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well liked within the navy. The
plan was to travel overland through Siberia until
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they reached the Pacific, and the
expedition left at the end of January seventeen
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twenty five, the same month that
the Czar died. The thirty four person
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expedition took only what it couldn't get
income Chatka, such as anchors, eight
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cannons, rigging and sails. More
joined the parties that traveled east, a
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journey that was constantly delayed by intractable
government agents, a popula saying was in
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Siberia god is a long way up, in the Czar a long way off.
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The journey took more than two years
by river horse and sled at least
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forty six men from Baring's party deserted
as they fought hunger and blizzards in the
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sparse frontier. The party finally gathered
in the tiny town of a Kotsik in
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June of seventeen twenty seven. From
there, the party would have to travel
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by sea to Kamchatka. The party
repaired one previously built boat and built a
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new one, which they optimistically dubbed
the Fortuna. It took most of another
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year to travel to Kumchatka. There
they launched Bearing's primary ship, the Archangel
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Gabriel, on June ninth, seventeen
twenty eight. The party finally sailed north
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up the coast in July, but
struggled to speak with the locals. They
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determine the names of local geography.
That Summer, Bearing sailed for the first
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time through the strait that would bear
his name. Unbeknownst to him, he
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was not the first to do so. Some eighty years previously, a Cossack
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named Semyon Deshnk had sailed through the
strait seeking furs. But Deshnef, who
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was likely illiterate, doesn't seem to
have recognized the importance of his discovery,
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and by seventeen twenty eight his expedition
was largely forgotten, although some record of
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it would be rediscovered in seventeen thirty
six. On August eighth, they reached
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a cape where the lanterned westwards,
and there met several Comchatkins. The party
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discussed whether they could be sure that
the lantern westward for good, thus proving
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that Asia and the Americas were different
land masses. Ultimately, with sea ice
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already advancing and the ship damaged,
Bearing decided to sail for a few days
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more and then turned back on August
sixteenth. Incredibly, the party had not
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actually reached the furthest east point of
mainland Asia, for the cape is named
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after Deshnef, nor had they discovered
Alaska, which on a clear day would
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have been visible at times. In
the spring of seventeen twenty nine, Bearing
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returned to his camp in Kumchatka,
ready to make the arduous journey back to
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Saint Petersburg to report his findings.
No longer carrying the supplies that they needed
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to bring with him, it only
took them a year to return to the
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Russian capital. Bearing was promoted to
his first noble rank for his work.
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At least fifteen of his men had
died on the journey, and the expedition
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had commandeered food, horses, and
dogs freely from native Siberians. They brought
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back useful map to the coast of
Siberia and good, though not definitive,
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proof of the sea between Asia and
the Americas. With Russia now considered a
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real power, reports of the journey
were
spread widely throughout Europe. Bearing wasn't
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satisfied with the results of his first
expedition, however, especially as it remained
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uncertain that he had actually proved the
separation of the two continents. He proposed
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a second expedition, much more ambitious
in scope and with the explicit goal of
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reaching North America. The plan was
known as the Great Northern Expedition, and
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it would eventually become so expensive that
it ranks as one of history's largest exploration
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enterprises. Politicians, the admiralty,
and advisers to the new Empress all got
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involved, piling on to the scientific
and economic goals of the expedition. They
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wanted ships to find a navigable route
to along the northern coast, to send
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the first Russian delegations to Japan,
and even to establish the Siberian Postal Service.
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In addition to reaching the coast of
North America, a large number of
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scientists were attached to the expedition,
generally to learn everything that has scientific interest.
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Bearing was concerned by the size of
the expedition. Tiny frontier towns had
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had trouble handling his much smaller expedition, but his influence faded as more people
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became involved. One of his lieutenants
from the first trip, Alexey Cherikov,
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was elevated almost to a co commander. While Bearing was completing his preparations,
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a different voyage would actually beat him
to Alaska. Some members of the first
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expedition, led by Mikhail gov'sdev cited
Alaska near the modern Cape Prince of Wales
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in seventeen thirty two. Bearing,
with his wife and his younger children,
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left in seventeen thirty three, shortly
after Chierikov had left with five hundred people,
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a number that would swell to several
thousand, including laborers. Like the
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first Track, the journey was long
and arduous. A huge party strained the
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resources of small frontier towns that were
expected to accommodate them, and Bearing was
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delayed trying to direct other parts of
the expedition. The delays were so significant
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that Bearing wasn't able to return to
Akotzik until seventeen thirty seven. There the
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expedition had refitted the Archangel Gabriel and
built two new ships. The original cost
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of the expedition was budgeted to be
twelve thousand rubles, but by seventeen twenty
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seven, expenses had already exceeded three
hundred thousand. Bearing took most of the
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blame for the delays and faced personal
criticism. Members of the expedition said he
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found little success in whatever he did. His own salary was halved, and
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supplies and money came irregularly, if
at all. Men starved while waiting ships
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were able to reach Japan, but
the American boundships weren't ready until seventeen forty.
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Before leaving, Bearing's family returned to
Saint Petersburg. He would never see
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them again. The government was considering
ending the project entirely, spring Bearing to
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quickly sail. He captained the Saint
Peter, which reached the Komchuka Peninsula finally
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in seventeen forty, followed by the
Saint Paul, captain by Cherikov. A
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new town had been built to support
the expedition, which Bearing dubbed Petropavlovsk,
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literally the City of Peter and Paul, after the names of the ships.
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He spent the winter preparing for the
actual voyage, including recruiting Georg Stellar,
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pioneer in Alaskan natural history and for
whom Stellar's Sea Eagles, Stellar's Sea Cow,
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and Stellar's j are named, among
others, to accompany him. In
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the summer of seventeen forty one,
eight years after he first set off from
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Saint Petersburg, Bearing In Chierkov finally
set sail for America. Early in the
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expedition, the two ships lost each
other, but both continued east. Cherikof
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was first to sea land of July
fifteenth. He said, a group of
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men ashore who failed to repear after
five days, and then a second group
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after them, which also disappeared.
Chierkof decided that the boats and fifteen men
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were lost and sailed for home.
Without those boats, he couldn't get more
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fresh water. The crew sided several
islands in the Allusion Chain on the return,
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and reached Petropavlovsky in October. Critically
low on water, Bearing caught sight
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of high snow covered mountains and among
them a high volcano. On July sixteenth,
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seventeen forty one, four hundred fifty
miles north of Chierkoff's sighting, they
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were
the first Europeans to see Mount
Saint Elias, the fourth tallest mountain in
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North America. The crew landed on
Kayak Island to take on water. Here,
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garek Stellar found a recently abandoned native
camp. A fire was still smoldering.
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He and his cossack entered the grain
forest, where he found a cellar
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dug into the ground. He stole
samples from this cash, smoked salmon,
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bark, grasses, and arrows.
Bearing sent his men to raid the site
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completely, leaving in return silk kettles, knives, beads and tobacco. Stellar
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wished to make contact, but Bearing
was already concerned about the return voyage.
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Stellar was affronted by his treatment,
exemplified in his furious complaint, so have
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come only to take American water to
Asia. Bearing wanted to sail straight for
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home, but his lieutenants overruled him, instead following the coastlines that they could
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chart it, extending the journey by
weeks. Finally, in August tenth,
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now laid in the season for sailing
so far north, Bearing convinced him to
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sail directly for Kumchaka. Scurvy had
begun to set in among the crew,
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and sixty year old Bearing himself was
bedridden. They landed to collect fresh water
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again, and on the same day
Nikita Shumagen became the first man to die
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of scurvy. Bearing named the islands
after him. Steller was able to temporarily
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stay off scurvy by collecting magnificent anti
scorbic plants. In his belief that scurvy
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was caused by diet, was well
ahead of conventional medicine at the time.
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The ship was buffeted by storm after
storm for weeks, and scurvy struck more
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of the crew. Soon nearly all
of the men were ill and able to
601
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even put up the sails. Stellar
report's daily deaths. On November four,
602
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if, after nearly five months at
sea, they cited land that they helped
603
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with Kumchatka, they half dead,
crawled out to see. Stellar said they
604
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landed, but soon learned they were
on an island. They were still more
605
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:46.280
than three hundred miles from Kamchatka.
In his eighteen eighty nine Vitis Bearing,
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the discoverer of the Bearing Strait,
Danish geographer Peter Lawrence had described the location
607
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the island upon who
Shore's Bearing,
after a voyage of four months, was
608
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cast, was a high, rocky
and uninviting country. By then, the
609
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expedition was in desperate condition. Lordson
wrote, the sick and dying were seen
610
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on every hand. Some complained of
the cold, others of hunger and thirst,
611
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and the majority of them were so
afflicted with scurvy that their gums,
612
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like a dark brown sponge, grew
over and entirely covered the teeth. Bearing's
613
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condition steadily worsened, according to lord
Sent, his sixty years of age as
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heavy build. The trials and tribulations
he'd experienced his subdued courage, and his
615
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disposition to quiet and inactivity all tended
to aggravate his disease, but he would,
616
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nevertheless, says Stellar, without doubt, have recovered if he had gotten
617
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back to Avatcha, where he could
have obtained proper nourishment and enjoyed the comfort
618
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of a warm room. On December
nineteenth bidas Bearing died, Stellar said of
619
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him sad as his death was that
intrepidity and seriousness with which he prepared to
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meet death was most worthy of admiration. Lordson attributed his death to inflammation of
621
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the bowels, and for two and
a half centuries that was generally assumed his
622
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death was caused by scurvy, but
an analysis of his remains in nineteen ninety
623
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one determined that he likely of heart
failure. The Saint Peter was by then
624
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into poor shape to sail. The
rest of the crew were stranded for ten
625
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months before they managed to build a
new ship from the wreckage and finally returned
626
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to Kumchatka only forty six so the
seventy seven men aboard the Saint Peter survived
627
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the expedition. At first, it
seemed as if Baring's expedition will be as
628
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forgotten as dejhnaves. The results of
the exploration was a secret jealously guarded by
629
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the Russian state, which was afraid
that other European powers would try to steal
630
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their newfound land. Lawrenson explains that
the reports of Bearing and his co workers,
631
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which would have filled cart loads with
manuscripts, were buried within the archives
632
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of the Admiralty Well. Bearing was
neither the first European to see Alaska,
633
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nor even the first to pass through
the strait that now bears his name.
634
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:49.719
His expeditions established the Russian claim to
what is now Alaska in the Pacific Northwest.
635
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:54.360
It was then called Russian America.
Lawrenson described him as Russia's first navigator
636
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and first great discoverer. It was
British explorer James Book who was credited with
637
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naming the Straight after Bearing in seventeen
seventy eight, and now many local features
638
00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:08.000
are named after Bearing. The island
on which he died is called Bearing Island,
639
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it is in the Bearing Sea,
and the land bridge at once connected
640
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:17.800
Asia and North America is called Barringia. Peter Lawrenceon noted the irony. Thus
641
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:23.679
it was West Europe who, in
the last century rescued Bearing's name from oblivion.
642
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:30.679
So, as we mentioned in our
last conversation, you know, there
643
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are a lot of differences. Of
course, this episode, this story takes
644
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place two hundred years after Magellans,
but in some ways there are a lot
645
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of similarities and how difficult this kind
of exploration is, and how shoe string
646
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they seem to keep it together so
many places where it could have failed,
647
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just like Magentiica. It's actually,
I mean, there's a huge difference between
648
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exploring up in the North Arctic in
the South Pacific. But it's interesting that
649
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by the end both groups were Diana
scurvy, and you know, that's the
650
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same thing when you're at sea for
a long period of time, when you
651
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have trouble getting supplies, and so
that's really an interesting similarity. One of
652
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.559
the things that's interesting Magellan was not
Spanish. You'd become a Spanish citizen,
653
00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:12.480
but Magellan was actually Portuguese. He
had gone to the King of Portugal first,
654
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and when the King of Portugal didn't
want to support the expedition, he
655
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:16.400
had gone to Spain. Of course, Whitess Bearing was not a Russian.
656
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Whitess Bearing was Danish, right,
and so it's the same sort. You
657
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:24.639
had a great explorer that had a
nation that wasn't going to support him as
658
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:29.000
the great explorer, and so he
winds up exploring on someone else's behalf.
659
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That's really quite interesting. It's a
mirror between the two. And then they
660
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both, you know, totally risk
their lives going to see with a small
661
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:39.920
group, and they both faced the
sorts of dangers and risks that you do.
662
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Of course, there's different risks when
you're living in the North Atlantic or
663
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:47.840
in the North Pacific there and minus
fifty degrees. That's a bit different than
664
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than if you're in the South Pacific. But they still you know, the
665
00:43:52.679 --> 00:43:59.199
basic truth that exploring very far away
from civilization or at least from your civilization
666
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and having a very difficult time.
I mean, you were you everything is
667
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:07.519
a possible failure. You know,
whether your ship is going to sink,
668
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:09.960
or you're not going to find the
food, or because they didn't know where
669
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:14.320
they were going, they weren't even
sure if if they were so what was
670
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:15.840
on the other side. Neither one
of them knew what they were both going,
671
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:20.320
literally into the great unknown. Of
course, five Sparring had the additional
672
00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:23.440
obstacles that he had to get to
get across Russia. They can't do where
673
00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:27.400
you could make a boat, and
that was that was not an easy time
674
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to do that. Yeah, it
was. And that what they were saying.
675
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:35.599
You know that even the Tsari's officials
could be very intragedy because intragedent because
676
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even though he was had been sent
there by the Tsar, they said they
677
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:40.519
were Tsar was far from there.
The Tsar was a part was far away.
678
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You wonder. One of the things
that kind of amazes me is that
679
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:50.199
Russia has been able to hold on
to so much of that land, despite
680
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:53.079
the fact that it's very clear at
this point that they had an extremely tenuous
681
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:57.480
control over it. They were getting
there at the time that there was in
682
00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:00.599
terms of actual you know, the
actual control by the Empire, Russia is
683
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:06.280
still almost you know, almost all
their population lives west of the Urals,
684
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:10.320
and so everybody you know that there's
this huge part of Russia which they are
685
00:45:10.400 --> 00:45:14.599
better able to. I mean,
they've got railroads across it now, uh,
686
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:16.760
better able to. That was a
long path too, but I mean
687
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the you know, the Russo Japanese
War. Part of the problem is how
688
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:22.360
do you even get troops there?
How do you protect that? How did
689
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:25.440
they protect the over this period of
time,
they essentially sold British North America
690
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:30.760
because they've afraid if they went to
war with Russian North America. They sold
691
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:32.880
Russian North America because they were afraid
that if the if they went to war
692
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:36.519
with the British, they couldn't defend
it from the British. It's somehow they
693
00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:40.239
have defended that huge battswath of territory
clear on the on the east side Russia.
694
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:44.679
Is an extraordinary story. And this
is you know, this story shows
695
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:47.679
how difficult it was to do that, how difficult it was for them to
696
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:52.920
even get from one It's clear years
the Tsar did not have a whole lot
697
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.760
of authority when you got to kom
Chatka. No, I mean you're your
698
00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:58.840
authority that you know, You're like, I'm here from the Czar. They're
699
00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:02.039
like, okay, better have something
more, more more convincing than that.
700
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:07.480
Probably to real are you gonna do
tell on me? It'll take your years
701
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:10.039
to get there and years to get
back, and by then no one will
702
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:15.480
care. But it's and it's also
I mean, they didn't have it very
703
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:19.760
well explored, and it took that
was part of why. I mean,
704
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:22.159
one of the things that Perring did
in this in this journey is really explored.
705
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:25.000
I mean, he they learned a
lot about the rivers, They learned
706
00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:30.480
a lot about kind of this understanding
of how you would get across this land,
707
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:31.840
and that had a lot to do. We end up taking most of
708
00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:37.559
it out because the journey there takes
and you know, he goes there sometimes
709
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:40.679
takes forever, and every step of
the way is a challenge, and parts
710
00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:44.000
of the party are reaching it and
part and that you know, they're waiting
711
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:46.840
for other parts and they don't have
food, and they're waiting for various supply
712
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:51.360
wagons, and they're trying to you
know, move that by river and you
713
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:54.440
have to they're not even one hundred
percent sure where the river goes. Yeah,
714
00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:57.800
I mean our episodes are I mean, they only around ten to fifteen
715
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:00.599
minutes long, and we do want
to stick to his story. That's going
716
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:02.159
to be interesting, but it is
certainly you could if you wanted to tell
717
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:06.039
the whole story of the bearing expeditions, it could take you could take much
718
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:08.480
much longer just to talk about even
getting to where they got the boat.
719
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:12.199
And you know, we wanted to
focus on the exploration part of it,
720
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:16.920
and the Bearing Sea and the Bearing
straight and Bearing Island and all these skipping
721
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:20.920
over a lot of it. But
if you have a whole lot of time
722
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:27.239
to talk about him hauling boat anchors
from from Moscow to come chot Guy,
723
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:30.679
which was which was difficult, and
and they I mean they there's also I
724
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:35.639
mean there's some stuff here that they
didn't necessarily that the Tsar expected that,
725
00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:37.679
you know, they could just take
whatever they needed from the locals, and
726
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:42.320
I mean they did, which was
which was always challenging because no no one
727
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:46.679
Siberia ever had really extra food,
yeah, yeah, or dogs, or
728
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:50.320
i mean any of the things that
they were taking. And I don't think
729
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:52.360
they probably believed that the Tzar wasn't
compaying back. So yeah, they had
730
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:57.360
to They had to literally just you
know, confiscate stuff from locals, and
731
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.280
the locals obviously, you know,
wanted to protect their stuff they had,
732
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:02.760
they had trouble. I mean,
it was certainly an interesting challenge, yeah,
733
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:06.800
and a very different challenge than the
same Magellan face. Yeah, supposedly
734
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:09.000
he was going through you know,
vitis and all of his people were going
735
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:13.039
through land that was controlled by Russia. The entire time. He never left
736
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:17.000
Russia. And yet you know,
the the Tzar officials, the Czarist officials
737
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:22.719
in these various little towns tended to
run these areas like their own personal fiefdom
738
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:27.719
where they have probably the only significant
building for you know, hundreds of miles
739
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:32.400
and and everybody else is everybody else
is living off and just miles and miles
740
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:37.800
of wilderness. And it's it's wild
that they that Russia kept all of that
741
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:44.000
together and that Bearing was able to
get through all of it honestly without without
742
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:49.039
just ending up giving up, because
it can be pretty pretty uh well twice
743
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:51.880
right, because he went, he
went and went, and then straight and
744
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:53.360
they went all the way back to
Moscow, and then he came all the
745
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:59.440
way back for another expedition and an
absolutely even crazier because the Great Northern
Expedition,
746
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:04.000
as they call it, absolutely out
of control. It was it was
747
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:07.239
it was much more about the ambition
because this was you know, this was
748
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:08.400
kind of a period. It was
a little bit like kind of this like
749
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:13.480
space race of science where everyone was
trying to prove that, you know,
750
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:15.920
oh we're so good at science,
we can do all this stuff. And
751
00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:20.079
Peter wanted to prove that, you
know, Russia was European and was up
752
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:22.599
with all of that stuff, and
they you know, they weren't essentially barbarians
753
00:49:22.599 --> 00:49:27.119
from the east someplace, and so
that was why this was turned into such
754
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:30.320
a huge expedition. But there was, to be honest, there was just
755
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:35.320
never any way to wrangle the whole
thing, and Bearing was kind of set
756
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:37.599
up to fail in that. He
gets a lot of the you know,
757
00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:39.920
a lot of the trouble for it
going so far over budget and it being
758
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:46.599
so difficult, and he didn't ask
to have you know, every scientific person
759
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:52.039
in Europe essentially send along something to
be a part of this expedition. He
760
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:53.880
had a hard enough time getting there
the first time, and then they wanted
761
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:58.920
to carry you know, fifty times
as many things all the way back,
762
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:01.079
and it wasn't that much easy year
to get there the second time. At
763
00:50:01.159 --> 00:50:04.360
least he knew what path he was
taking. But you know, there's all
764
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:07.760
these different problems and gosh, and
that's all you know, all the politics
765
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:10.840
and and and that. I mean, so there's that It is a very
766
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:14.199
rich story. There's a lot more
to it than he has just gotten about.
767
00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:16.159
And of course part of the story
is the parts that he explored might
768
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:21.239
well have been someone there before him, Yeah, and whose records were eventually
769
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:23.159
kind of uncovered to say, oh
maybe there was this what was he was
770
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:29.760
a fur trader that had already been
and he who apparently reached the furthest eastern
771
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:35.440
part of Asia, and you know, apparently he just his story wasn't wasn't
772
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:37.079
told, although he is. I
mean, he's got something named after him
773
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:40.199
too, but certainly not the way
you know Bearing does. Now, now
774
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:45.960
we talk about Berringia, which that's
you know, that's that's Bearing going back
775
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:49.840
into back into the past. Essentially
bad of time. If they say you
776
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:53.079
can't change history, I mean in
a way Bearing did when they when they
777
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:58.719
named things thousand years before Baringia.
But and it but it still gets down
778
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:04.960
to just this really fascinating story supplies
disagreement among the captains, the two ships
779
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:07.639
lose each other. I mean,
it is a truly dramatic story. People
780
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:13.840
start dying. He wasn't killed by
natives. But it's interesting that much of
781
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:19.840
his crew was suffering from scurvy in
the same way that Magellan's crew was suffering
782
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:22.119
from scurvy. And they even had
a guy they kind of thought that he
783
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:25.679
knew what scurvy was and wanted them
to, you know, have a diet
784
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:29.280
that would help him, and they
don't really buy it. But he,
785
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:32.000
I mean, he was anybody understood
that Europe didn't understand that at the time
786
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:36.679
that they needed, you know,
oranges to keep them from dying of scurvy.
787
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:40.960
But and of course Steller Steller survives
the whole thing, and that his
788
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:45.159
his journals and what he said about
it is is a good chunk of why
789
00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:49.239
we know as much as we do. But they're you know, their first
790
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:52.840
journey on his first expedition where he
travels north and still manages not to find
791
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:55.639
Alaska. Nowadays we can look at
him like, oh my gosh, he
792
00:51:55.719 --> 00:51:59.960
was so close. Yeah, you
can see it from there is this close.
793
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:02.440
He could have seen Alaska on a
clear day, and he didn't.
794
00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:06.559
And I wonder, you know,
for them, they had no idea they
795
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:08.440
still weren't. He wanted to go
back partially because he felt like they hadn't
796
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:14.360
conclusively proven that Asia and North America
were separate, and that's separated. He
797
00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:15.679
gone far enough north to see if
there was a connection. Yeah, which
798
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:20.079
is an interesting and interesting piece but
then you know, he comes back on
799
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:23.159
the second time and he does manage
to reach Alaska, even though apparently,
800
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:27.719
you know, he's not the not
the first guy to have to have actually
801
00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:30.760
seen some of that, but they
see they're the first ones to see that
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mountain. It's amazing that there were
I mean, there were lots of tribes
803
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and stuff living along that coast
side, and he never never made any contact,
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well except for they find that they
find a camp, and they find
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that cellar. They did find a
camp, and so they found some evidence.
806
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But the other boat, though,
had sent away two like longboats full
807
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of guys that never came back,
and they they might have been you know,
808
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combinatives, but it is a good
chance of that. But I mean
809
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they also could have died. Any
numbers other ways they could have died.
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Yeah. Yeah, maybe they would
just send him to a place that wasn't
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navigable and they all drowned. But
it is, I mean, it is
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when you're there, I mean,
it feels very much like Magellan. You're
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just out, you know, you
are so far from home, and you
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know, how do you find supply, how do you find you know,
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anything that's going on? And yet
they continue to do their exploration. They
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continue to map, and that's extraordinary. Apparently, just like Magellan, Bearing
817
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doesn't doesn't make it home. Bearing
had to fight them because Barry wanted to
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turn back sooner than they did,
you know, they wanted to do more
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exploration. And honestly, the journey
seems to have gone pretty well until you
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know, they're getting to that last, that kind of end part, and
821
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then everything just falls apart so quickly. They run out of food, and
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then people start dying of scurvy,
and then they and they, and there's
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hundreds of miles. They wind up
on a you know, a very bearing
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bearing, a barren island, rock
island of the Belling nowhere, and that's
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00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:50.880
where by the Bearing died. I
was unfortunate three hundred miles after all of
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that. They were that close and
there was nothing they could do, and
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00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:57.800
no one knew they were there,
and you know, good luck accidentally stumbling
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upon them. It's amazing that any
of them were able to get off of
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that island. And that's I mean, that's again how close it was.
830
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:08.880
And then they did, despite everything, managed to bring back just a just
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a bunch of stuff of scientific stuff. And it's so funny that Bearing is
832
00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:17.920
almost buried, not because he you
know his he didn't
have a record of
833
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:23.159
his expedition, but because the Russians
didn't want anyone else wanting buddy didn't know
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00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:27.519
what they found. Yeah, which's
funny given that the reason that they'd send
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him was to prove what scientists they
are, and then they don't want to
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00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:35.400
telling that about that was apparently just
just almost lost to bureaucracy wagon loads.
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Can you imagine all of that stuff. He travels all the way across Russia
838
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and then they managed to get all
that stuff back across Russia, and the
839
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:44.760
Russians are like, oh, we
better lock that up in a cellar someplace
840
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like the late Raiders of the Lost
Arc there. Yet, this is never
841
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:55.159
going to come out. It's pop
people, It really is an interesting and
842
00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:59.559
you know that's a piece of you
wonder, well, I'm not sure that
843
00:54:59.599 --> 00:55:02.360
we have a journey quite as ambitious
as Bearings. That's you know, totally
844
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:07.159
buried or something. But you wonder
what what stuff we don't know is hidden
845
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:12.079
in some giant warehouse or in the
basement of a monastery someplace that's it's just
846
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:15.920
not been translated or her whole expeditions
because bearings could have been forgotten, could
847
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:19.239
have been and it's you know,
it's really kind of surprised that it wasn't.
848
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:21.760
So who knows what else might have
happened, what else might have been
849
00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:23.719
explored, it might have been,
might have done, and the record is
850
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:27.440
simply lost. I mean, it's
it's interesting, you know, all the
851
00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:30.519
all this, we never found the
logbooks from the Franklin expedition or you know
852
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:32.360
why, you know why they disappear. But we also don't know for sure
853
00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:36.599
where Gena's Cohn is buried. So
I mean it's it's you know, uh,
854
00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:38.360
for all that you talk about history, there's still a lot of history
855
00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:42.719
that's that's lost, that's missing,
and we're still looking for answers we might
856
00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:45.599
learn about it. I just saw
that, you know, the tombs in
857
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:51.159
in Masdon in modern Greece, you
know where Alexander. We don't we don't
858
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:55.119
have any idea where Alexander is,
but they're still fighting over who the bodies
859
00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:59.400
are in his royal tombs, whether
they're his you know, his son and
860
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:01.679
his brother, and they're still arguing
over that. So you know, these
861
00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:06.199
are these are very important people that
we Uh, well, very important historically,
862
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:08.559
people we don't know, we don't
know any of this stuff, and
863
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:13.119
we're fighting about that. And it's
interesting what we'll be able to prove and
864
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how much we'll be able to learn
with you know, new new information,
865
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and I hope that it continues.
That's a that's a great lesson to learn
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from bte Us bearing is. There's
a good chance that you know, people
867
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probably know who is because of the
bearings, the bearing straight, but there's
868
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a very good chance now you would
never know who he was, that his
869
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:31.440
record would still be buried in a
vault somewhere. And so it shows you
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how easily history is lost. And
then that gives you a good reason to
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understand why history deserves to be remembered
because it's so easily lost. Thank you
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