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Hey everyone, before we jump into this episode,
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I wanted to take a moment to address a personal
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matter. As many of you may know, I lost my mom
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in August. She was meant to be on this episode
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because she loved this movie, but sadly she passed
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before we could record. For that reason, I am
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dedicating this episode specifically to her.
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Stick around till... until the end for a collection
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of some of my favorite moments of hers from the
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show. With that being said, please enjoy our
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discussion about Knives Out. This is an interesting
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storytelling tool. Oh, they're the favorites.
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She can't afford the New Yorker. What rock have
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I been living under? And you can just see him.
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Just the compassion in his eyes. It makes no
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damn sense. Compels video. Welcome back to the
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Concession Stand. I'm your host, Silvio Cusino,
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and today I have with me my sister, Kamri. How
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are you doing? Very well, thank you. Good, good.
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What movie are we talking about today? We are
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talking about Knives Out. Yes. Fantastic movie.
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I am actually really curious, what is your history
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with the movie? Because I know mine. I saw it
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shortly after it first came out, and I loved
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it. Did you go to the theater with Andy? No,
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we rented it. We rented it from Redbox. Okay.
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Yeah. And I really enjoyed it. It's such a fun
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movie. For me, my history, it was the first time
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I had taken a girl to a movie. And she clocked
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it super early. She clocked the curl push super
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early. I feel like an idiot that I didn't. Like,
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how early? I mean, it was before the... Well,
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she clocked that Marta was involved. Uh -huh.
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Like, during the... my brain is blanking during
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like the interviews yeah so that was fun um and
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it really solidified because uh shortly after
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that when it came out in digital and COVID happened,
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and I went back home from school, and it was
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one of three movies that I introduced to Mom
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and Dad because I just really liked them. And
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so I showed them Jojo Rabbit, Beautiful Day in
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the Neighborhood, and Knives Out. Did not expect
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mom to like Knives Out as much as she did. Yeah.
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And so that was that was a special thing for
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me. And so like that's always going to be there
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connected to this movie. But what were your initial
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thoughts? My initial thoughts were wow. First
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was, wow, I loved the setting. I loved the house.
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I loved the eccentric things about the house.
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The puppets, the antiques, the secret stairway,
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the hidden stairway. I really enjoyed it. Just
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maybe don't show it to Robert. What was that?
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Just maybe don't show it to Robert for a while.
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Yeah. I wouldn't even show, I wouldn't even show,
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like, arsenic and old lace to Robert, what we
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were mentioning earlier. Yeah. That would be
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a little too much. Yeah. Yeah. He's a little
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young for that yet. Yeah. Let's talk about the
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craft, like the framing, lighting, visual motifs
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and stuff like that. I love the... So, can you
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explain to me visual motifs, what you mean by
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that? Symbols. Yes, yes. Like the baseball. Yes.
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Yeah. And just like... The baseball. Yeah, so,
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like, he's, Harlan's talking to Richard. He's
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holding the baseball. And then Richard comes
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to destroy the letter. Mm -hmm. Sees that it's
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blank. And he's like, you son of a gun. Picks
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up the baseball, throws it out the window. Uh
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-huh. Blanc picks it up. Mm -hmm. And then throws
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it to the dog. The dog brings it back. To Joanie.
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Joanie brings it back. Finds the letter. It's
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just... It's one of those objects that you can
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follow. And it just enriches the story. It's
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such an interesting storytelling tool. Also the
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knives, like the knife that was in the study.
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I thought that was a really good foreshadowing.
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And I think that that knife is in his portrait
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too. You know what? I think you're right. And
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so, yeah, it's just, it's just such good, such
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well -crafted, it's such a well -crafted movie.
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And the paintings also, I noticed in one of the
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scenes, one of the paintings looked like one
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of the suns. Did you notice that? And he had
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his head, he was decapitated and he had his head
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in his hand. Which one, Walt or Richard? I think
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it was Walt. Man, that dude. Yeah. Like, Michael
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Shannon, dude, like, crazy to think that he was
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in that. Yeah, what other movies did he play
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in? He was Zod in Man of Steel. Okay. And I...
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I've seen him in something else, but we can't...
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place it. I was surprised that Frank Oz played...
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Blade in, Knives out. Wasn't that one of his
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last films? Oh no, he's still alive. He's still
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around. Oh, for some reason I thought he wasn't.
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No. At least I'm pretty sure. Anyway. The way
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that they were able to make it look like it was
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shot on film. The film emulation is impeccable.
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Just like the way they colored it, the way they
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lit it. It's masterful work. Oh, can I back up
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to the... The way that they filmed the interviews,
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I really enjoyed it. And how that scene with
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the birthday cake changes with whoever is telling
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their side of the story. You know, with Linda,
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when she's telling, with Linda and, what was
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his name, William? Or with Linda and Richard.
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Yeah. Linda and Richard. When they're telling
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their side of the story, they're next to, they're
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side by side with, and their son is in the back.
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You know, they're the ones that are closest to
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him. They're the best, their favorite. And then
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with the... the other characters the scene changes
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to show that oh they're the favorites they're
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the ones that are going to get most of the inheritance
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they're the most important yeah and they're the
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ones that were closest to him yeah and it really
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just sets up um yeah it really sets the expectation
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of maybe there's going to be a um unreliable
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narrator. Yeah. And just like, maybe what you're
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saying isn't exactly what happened. Yeah. I really
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love just the way it was lit. The high contrast.
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I almost want to see I almost want to take it
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and desaturate it and see what it would be like
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in black and white. Because I feel like it could
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still have that same impact just because of framing
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and lighting and that kind of stuff. I really
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love that it turns the whodunit on its head.
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Yeah. The first act is whodunit. Yeah. And you're
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piecing things together. I really love the way
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that Blanc is introduced. Getting the interview
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on track and all that stuff. And then, like,
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the audience, just as soon as Richard and the
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other guys, like, who is that? I also think the
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posturing is very funny. Like, the appearance
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of, well, like, Ransom and Linda read the New
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Yorker article. Yeah. No, wait. Joni. Joni and
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Ransom read the... Wait, hold up. I can't remember.
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Harlan's Kid and Ransom read the New Yorker article
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and the goop lady said she read a tweet about
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her New Yorker article about Blanc. It's just
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like, huh. Those little details tell you a lot
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about their character. Tells you that she's broke.
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She can't afford the New Yorker. So she's just
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going off of tweets. I didn't make that connection.
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That was just something I noticed this last watch
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through. Performances. Let's talk about performances.
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Very good performances. I really liked Marta's
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performance. I really liked Marta's performance
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and her performance of performance. How she kept
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herself together when it was most important.
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And then as soon as, you know, as soon as the
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weight is lifted up off her, she regurgitates.
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That is the one thing I struggle with this movie.
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Like, I've said it in my episode about... Packs
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are rich. I'm fine with blood and guts, but the
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second there's broken bones and vomit... Can't
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do it. So that's my only struggle with this movie.
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Yeah. Jamie Lee Curtis is wonderful. It's delightful.
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Freaking Christopher Plummer. Phenomenal that
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it was one of his last performances and it's
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just like. So which one is Christopher Plummer?
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Harlan. Okay, yeah. It's just the subtleties
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that he pulled off were so good. Yeah. When he
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realizes that he's out of time and Marta's freaking
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out, trying to find the antidote. And you can
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just see him, just the compassion in his eyes.
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Yeah. The compassion, the acceptance, and it's
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just heartbreaking. At the end, when LeBlanc
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is talking to Marta about why she made it, because
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she wasn't playing by Harlan's rules. She wasn't
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playing Harlan's game. And that goes back to
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the Go board, the game of Go. And the fact that...
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She would beat him more than Ransom. And I realized
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that Marta would beat Harlan at go more than
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Ransom would. And that's what Harlan said to
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Ransom when he was Telling him, twisting the
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knife, about getting left out of the will and
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cutting everyone out of the will. The one thing
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he told her, told him about Marta, was that she
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beat him at go. More than Ransom did. And then
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you look at everything that Ransom does, he follows
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Harlan's plan exactly. Pulls off a carved elephant.
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Yeah. He goes through the side avoiding the mud.
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Goes up the trellis making no noise. Uh -huh.
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And is only seen by Nana. Yeah. Yeah. I just
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find that so fascinating. It's just like, you
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know, it really is like our own demons and that
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kind of stuff. But yeah, like that's, that was
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always compelling to me. If you think the politics
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and the politicking. Yeah, it reminded me of
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a typical dysfunctional family. Well, in general,
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you know, all the name -calling and swearing
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at each other and arguing. I was like, my goodness.
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And their attitudes at the
wheel reading. My
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goodness, that's the definition of a dysfunctional
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family. Not that having different political views
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makes a dysfunctional family, but that seemed
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really typical of a grown family with families
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of their own, how they have different viewpoints.
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And I did appreciate how they discussed politics
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and they discussed different viewpoints of politics.
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I don't know. I thought it was pretty interesting,
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pretty good. It must have been, you know, a jab
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to Marta, you know, the discussion about immigration.
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And if you break the law, you have to accept
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the consequences. I don't even think, like, I
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think at that point she was invisible to them.
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The thing that I appreciate about this movie
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is, like, obviously, Rian Johnson has his...
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political views. And I just find it hilarious
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that he bashes virtue signaling on both sides.
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And it's hilarious. I wasn't aware of the actor's
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political views. The director. So it's just like...
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I don't know. I just appreciate, like... He doesn't...
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It's political without being preachy. Yeah. Like...
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I think that's what stories ought to do. And
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a lot of stories, like message movies, don't
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really do that well. Like... The message is said
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explicitly, like, in a speech. Uh -huh. And it's
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just like, compare that to something like Falcon
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and the Winter Soldier, where the entire philosophy,
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Sam's entire philosophy is just laid bare in
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a speech, and that's it. It's not shown. And
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I can't speak for Glass Onion. I haven't seen
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it yet. But from the two Knives Out movies that
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I have seen, it's... Two Knives Out movies? Yes.
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Oh, there's a second Knives Out movie. Yeah,
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there's three. Three? Yeah, the other two are
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on Netflix. What rock have I been living under?
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Obviously, the non -netflix half of the rock.
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But of the two non -exile movies that I've seen,
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it's fascinating that the good protagonist beats
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the system simply by virtue of being a good person.
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Yeah. Marta. wins because she is a good nurse
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and she has a kind heart. The third Knives Out
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movie, there is a priest who gets framed for
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a parishioner's murder and he beats it by being
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a good priest. And it's just. It's a fascinating
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morality play of just. People being good people.
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What? What speaks to you about this movie, especially
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like. Have your views changed since the last
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time you watched it? Well, I thought it was kind
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of heartwarming how Harlan, he had regrets of
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messing up his family. because of his fortune.
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And he sees Mark, I think he sees Marta and her
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family as a chance to redeem some of those mistakes,
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you know, to start with a clean slate. You know,
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he and when she When they think that Marta made
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a mistake in the medication and he thinks that
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it's all over for him, he gives his life to protect
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Marta and her future and her family. Yeah. I
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thought that, I don't know, that's kind of bittersweet
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for me. Because he literally gave his life for
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her. And her future. Yeah, that that really is
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the ultimate tragedy of Harlan Thrombey is like.
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And if he had just listened to her. The whole
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tragedy would have been avoided. And that's the
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and those are the what he and he was saying in
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his conversation with her, like you said, like
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you suggested, like you advised, you know. To
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be a father rather than a provider for Joni and
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Meg and things like that. And know that good
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people make mistakes, but making mistakes doesn't
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make you a bad person. It does kind of make me
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wonder how Joanie's husband died. Yeah, I was
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wondering that, too. It's just like, huh. Like,
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he's the one thrombie we never meet. Yeah. And
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she's broke, so you just kind of wonder. Yeah.
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And she's kind of the free -spirited one. She's
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kind of a wild card. Same thing with Meg. Meg
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is kind
of a wild card too. Yeah, it's just like
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you just kind of wonder. And it shows how and
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I thought it was interesting how quickly they
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turn and kind of how hypocritical they were when
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they're like, oh, she's Marta's family. Marta's
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not the help. She's part of the family. And then
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they turn on her when they find out that she
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gets the inheritance. It's that virtue signaling
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again. It's just like... It's all about appearance
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to them. Yeah. With that thrown with all the
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knives, it's appearance. It's just appearance.
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They're props. And their ancestral home was bought
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from a Pakistani realtor in 1985. Oh, shut up.
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Stop it with the foghorn leghorn drawl. Kentucky
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Fried Fog or Lay Your Draw. Chris Evans is so
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freaking good in this movie. Yeah. And he just
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came off of... This came out... Six months after
00:29:47.089 --> 00:29:54.059
Avengers Endgame. Oh, really? Yeah, so he's just
00:29:54.059 --> 00:29:58.640
coming off of eight years of playing this Boy
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:06.200
Scout. And then you could tell he just had such
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:10.839
a blast with this movie. He was just having so
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much fun. And his absolute cackling in the back
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:28.339
at the wheel reading. It's so funny. Yeah. Good
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stuff, man. Yeah. It shows what a good actor
00:30:39.900 --> 00:30:43.960
he is, that he could play the hero and he could
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play the villain. He's absolutely small. And
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:55.319
again, it's interesting the appearances. He wears
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these nice sweaters, these nice clothes. He has
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the beamer. But if you look at his sweater, it's
00:31:03.339 --> 00:31:08.940
got nicks in it. He doesn't take care of his
00:31:08.940 --> 00:31:15.059
things. And he just throws money at problems.
00:31:23.490 --> 00:31:26.950
That's a good observation. I didn't notice that.
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Yeah. But now that you mention it, yeah. It's
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just fascinating, man. Why is it compelling to
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you? Why is it compelling to me? It makes no
00:31:50.849 --> 00:32:03.720
damn sense. compels me though what compels me
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:11.259
is perhaps how creatively it was written and
00:32:11.259 --> 00:32:26.420
filmed and the Um, it's a good question. Like
00:32:26.420 --> 00:32:35.299
the, um, like the morals behind it, the things
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that we can take from it, like, um, to not judge
00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:48.019
by appearances or status because it can be very
00:32:48.019 --> 00:32:52.069
deceptive. And it can change all the time if
00:32:52.069 --> 00:33:06.130
you're not careful. Yeah. And I'd say what what
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familial loyalty really looks like because that
00:33:16.029 --> 00:33:20.079
family, the Thrombeys, They were not loyal to
00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:22.480
each other. Oh, no, they were loyal to the money.
00:33:23.819 --> 00:33:27.700
Yeah, yeah, they were loyal to the money. But
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they were easy to throw each other under the
00:33:32.700 --> 00:33:36.440
bus, even though they claimed, oh, I don't want
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to spill tea on my siblings, about my family.
00:33:44.619 --> 00:33:47.039
Oh, that's so funny. But this is what happened.
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But this is what happened. They're the black
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:56.779
sheep. I'm the favorite. Richard is so funny
00:33:56.779 --> 00:34:01.039
in those interview scenes. It's just like the
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:04.440
dichotomy. It's like, if you think you can blackmail
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:07.660
me into crap talking my baby brother, then you're
00:34:07.660 --> 00:34:17.739
Walt didn't run crap. It's just so... The animus
00:34:17.739 --> 00:34:26.679
between those two is so funny. Final thoughts
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:35.780
before we wrap up. Final thoughts is it's a true
00:34:35.780 --> 00:34:39.440
delight. It was really delightful to watch. And
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:50.389
I with all the subtle the subtle foreshadowing
00:34:50.389 --> 00:34:57.690
and the subtle details that you just pick up
00:34:57.690 --> 00:35:01.690
throughout the movie. And you have to watch the
00:35:01.690 --> 00:35:06.030
movie multiple times because then you notice
00:35:06.030 --> 00:35:10.469
more and more of those little details that look,
00:35:10.530 --> 00:35:14.619
that appear insignificant at first. And some
00:35:14.619 --> 00:35:17.980
shots that don't make much sense, that might
00:35:17.980 --> 00:35:21.300
not make much sense at first, as you rewatch
00:35:21.300 --> 00:35:24.019
it and you watch it all the way through and then
00:35:24.019 --> 00:35:29.099
you go back and watch again, you go, oh, that
00:35:29.099 --> 00:35:32.059
foreshadowing. Oh, that's why they did that.
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:35.099
And that's why they did that. And that's why
00:35:35.099 --> 00:35:40.070
this person was acting this way. It's just such
00:35:40.070 --> 00:35:46.030
a well -crafted story. But go ahead. Yeah. And
00:35:46.030 --> 00:35:50.730
I listened to your podcast, The King's Speech,
00:35:50.909 --> 00:35:55.010
about The King's Speech. And I noticed that shaky
00:35:55.010 --> 00:35:59.929
camera when Marta was going out to her car, you
00:35:59.929 --> 00:36:05.309
know, and it reflected the chaos that was going
00:36:05.309 --> 00:36:09.320
inside of her head. Everything was swimming around
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:14.920
her. All that's going on. It's the only time
00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:25.719
the camera is not locked off. It's not smooth
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:30.500
and deliberate. It's the only time in the movie
00:36:30.500 --> 00:36:36.960
where it's handheld. It's such a good movie.
00:36:37.610 --> 00:36:41.449
What do you give it out of 10? Oh, what do I
00:36:41.449 --> 00:36:45.809
give it out of 10? I give it a 9 out of 10. Okay,
00:36:45.809 --> 00:36:56.510
what keeps it from 10? Swearing. Although the
00:36:56.510 --> 00:37:04.590
swearing does match the dysfunctionality of the
00:37:04.590 --> 00:37:10.420
family, it's still... Harsh. Yeah, I guess that's
00:37:10.420 --> 00:37:19.219
fair. It's a 10 for me. It's just so freaking
00:37:19.219 --> 00:37:29.599
good. If I could get a Blu -ray and clean up
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:31.679
some of the swearing, then I would give it a
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:40.849
10 out of 10. Yeah. Watch Knives Out. Watch the
00:37:40.849 --> 00:37:42.769
whole trilogy. I still need Disney Glass Onion,
00:37:42.869 --> 00:37:45.070
but watch the whole trilogy. It's phenomenal.
00:37:47.510 --> 00:37:50.579
Yeah. But with that being said that as a show
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and unity matters are handled as always by salary
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Thank you so much for watching and or listening.
00:38:17.949 --> 00:38:19.590
And remember, if it looks good, it's probably
00:38:19.590 --> 00:38:35.710
done in post. Oh, baby boy. Yes. He is forced
00:38:35.710 --> 00:38:40.309
to discover why he's angry, what part of the
00:38:40.309 --> 00:38:42.369
root of that is, and that's what happened to
00:38:42.369 --> 00:38:49.269
his mother. He sees his mother in her hospital
00:38:49.269 --> 00:38:55.389
bed and he comes to her and he, you know, is
00:38:55.389 --> 00:38:58.070
really happy to see him. But then she has a message
00:38:58.070 --> 00:39:04.110
for him. She tells him, well, you know, I know
00:39:04.110 --> 00:39:06.230
you're doing this for me, you know, carrying
00:39:06.230 --> 00:39:09.329
this anger, holding on to this anger. Because
00:39:09.329 --> 00:39:16.880
she was very badly mistreated. And she says,
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I don't need it. We all have our weaknesses and
00:39:19.940 --> 00:39:22.679
everything, but we need to find somebody. See,
00:39:22.820 --> 00:39:26.900
Bernie had all kinds of formal training, you
00:39:26.900 --> 00:39:30.300
know, by the experts, you know, to try to get
00:39:30.300 --> 00:39:32.820
over his speech impediment. They didn't give
00:39:32.820 --> 00:39:36.099
a rip. They were just there doing their job.
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:39.760
You need to find somebody who understands what
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:41.739
you're going through and you need to find somebody
00:39:41.739 --> 00:39:46.820
that cares about it. And that's when you get
00:39:46.820 --> 00:39:50.219
over your weaknesses and you need to. And like
00:39:50.219 --> 00:39:56.179
I said before, the past trauma, healing with
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that and and moving on. The goodness or the the
00:40:02.099 --> 00:40:06.880
impact that just one good man can have, you wouldn't
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:09.019
think that it would make a bit of difference.
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:15.550
But just just one good man. or women, can make
00:40:15.550 --> 00:40:18.570
a difference and influence people, especially
00:40:18.570 --> 00:40:22.389
when you really believe in what you're standing
00:40:22.389 --> 00:40:27.289
for. You aren't afraid of the opposition, which
00:40:27.289 --> 00:40:40.239
inevitably will come. What's the use? You know,
00:40:40.300 --> 00:40:43.019
I can't make a difference. But yes, you can.
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:47.699
That's probably the message that I get from the
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biggest message I get from the movie.