Kitty Pryde and Wolverine #5 (1984) | Courage | 5의 전체 녹취록

anything to do with entertainment, whether it's a bookstore or a comic bookstore or a music store, there are Funko Pops and there are always an ass load of them. 04:43.551 --> 04:52.958 [UNKNOWN]: So I don't know if they, you know, these places just bought a bunch of Funko's and they're just not selling and so they're not buying anymore until they sell and that's where the money problems are coming for them. 04:52.978 --> 04:53.139 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 04:53.159 --> 04:53.279 [UNKNOWN]: But. 04:53.719 --> 04:57.760 [UNKNOWN]: And you know that every single thing that they put out is not there. 04:57.800 --> 04:59.080 [UNKNOWN]: So they have to pay for the license. 04:59.640 --> 04:59.840 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 05:00.300 --> 05:12.963 [UNKNOWN]: So they are laying out massive money for the four figure set of the musical group or the five figure set of the movie actors for the movie or whatever is like, yeah, they are. 05:13.383 --> 05:16.424 [UNKNOWN]: They got to be paying mad money for the license for those things. 05:16.444 --> 05:16.684 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 05:16.784 --> 05:36.053 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, that when I got that one on Friday, they also had in the place this big, I mean, it was a big box and it had, it was Rundee MC, it was a three guys from Rundee MC, Jam Master J had his turn tables and everything, it had a whole set up, so it looked like they were on stage. 05:36.613 --> 05:38.954 [UNKNOWN]: And I thought, I was like, oh, that is awesome. 05:39.074 --> 05:42.736 [UNKNOWN]: I have nowhere to put that, but, and then I thought, I bet it's expensive as hell. 05:43.036 --> 05:44.017 [UNKNOWN]: It was 30 bucks. 05:44.637 --> 05:44.837 [UNKNOWN]: Hmm. 05:45.397 --> 05:46.558 [UNKNOWN]: I was really surprised. 05:46.618 --> 05:47.138 [UNKNOWN]: That's not bad. 05:47.318 --> 05:50.900 [UNKNOWN]: One, one Funko when it first comes up could be dirty but. 05:50.960 --> 05:51.401 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 05:51.461 --> 05:51.941 [UNKNOWN]: Exactly. 05:52.381 --> 06:10.751 [UNKNOWN]: Funko officially had to destroy truckloads of excess inventory in an ET video game type of well, but now with the ET video game isn't that the one that they buried and so if you knew you could go and dig it up, I wonder if you can go and dig up these Funko's or if they like actually like burned them or melt them or something like that for the place. 06:11.341 --> 06:15.923 [UNKNOWN]: because if so, I would go out and try to find where they buried them and dig around and see what I could dig up. 06:15.983 --> 06:16.483 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 06:16.503 --> 06:17.084 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yes. 06:17.424 --> 06:17.684 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 06:18.204 --> 06:35.092 [UNKNOWN]: In case that doesn't come out very well in the podcast, what Ed was saying there, Bill from Long Island over there on the YouTube, he put up a comment that Funko officially had to destroy truckloads of excess inventory in an ET video game type event. 06:35.172 --> 06:35.432 [UNKNOWN]: So. 06:35.922 --> 06:41.329 [UNKNOWN]: There's like, uh,

uh, uh, I think there's a mini series podcast out there about the ET. 06:41.789 --> 06:42.050 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 06:42.130 --> 06:42.610 [UNKNOWN]: Video thing. 06:42.630 --> 06:49.178 [UNKNOWN]: So like, from the beginning, all the way to the end of like finding somebody found the stash or something like that. 06:49.359 --> 06:49.579 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 06:50.046 --> 07:07.544 [UNKNOWN]: All right, before we go any further, I just want to let everybody know that I have recently gotten a bunch of stickers made for the my our various podcasts Superman super show comic book super show, either came Conan, another GI Joe podcast and I I 07:08.124 --> 07:29.540 [UNKNOWN]: I want to give them away, so for those of you who listen to the comic book Super Show, if the device or the podcast app that you use to listen allows you to rate and review the show, or just find somewhere like Apple Podcasts, rate and review the show, send a screenshot, 07:30.080 --> 07:32.766 [UNKNOWN]: to Steven or else at gmail.com. 07:33.146 --> 07:34.188 [UNKNOWN]: That will be in the show notes. 07:34.229 --> 07:35.291 [UNKNOWN]: Don't worry about writing that down. 07:35.752 --> 07:39.058 [UNKNOWN]: Send me a screenshot with your address and I will send you out some stickers. 07:39.634 --> 07:48.683 [UNKNOWN]: If you want to see what the stickers look like, go watch the video that we're doing right now, where we livestream the recording of this episode. 07:49.163 --> 07:50.705 [UNKNOWN]: Link for that will be in the show notes as well. 07:51.165 --> 07:53.508 [UNKNOWN]: Sure, click the link down below. 07:53.528 --> 07:58.232 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like and subscribe, smash that bell. 07:58.272 --> 08:01.556 [UNKNOWN]: That's what they always say on you, smash it, smash it, smash it. 08:01.896 --> 08:03.538 [UNKNOWN]: Speaking of which, yeah, like. 08:04.058 --> 08:05.298 [UNKNOWN]: Like the episode if you're watching. 08:05.699 --> 08:07.339 [UNKNOWN]: If you're watching on YouTube, like it, smash it. 08:07.359 --> 08:07.999 [UNKNOWN]: Don't smash it. 08:08.219 --> 08:08.959 [UNKNOWN]: You want to break anything. 08:08.979 --> 08:10.000 [UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, this is, yeah. 08:10.340 --> 08:12.561 [UNKNOWN]: Because then you won't be able to watch the next one probably. 08:12.641 --> 08:14.121 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's not what we're after. 08:14.421 --> 08:15.361 [UNKNOWN]: It seems excessive. 08:15.521 --> 08:19.042 [UNKNOWN]: We're after long term viewership, not immediate kind of, you know. 08:19.103 --> 08:20.463 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 08:20.523 --> 08:22.343 [UNKNOWN]: I like to do so much and I smash my screen. 08:22.444 --> 08:23.884 [UNKNOWN]: No, yeah, no, don't do that. 08:24.397 --> 08:28.521 [UNKNOWN]: All right, today we're looking at Kitty Pride and Wolverine number five for Marvel Comics. 08:28.781 --> 08:31.924 [UNKNOWN]: This issue sports a cover date of March, 1985. 08:31.964 --> 08:43.674 [UNKNOWN]: Though it hit the stands in December of 1984, so for just 75 cents, and it is entitled Courage was written by Chris Claremont with art by Al Milgrim, the letters were by Tom 08:52.106 --> 08:57.371 [UNKNOWN]: Kitty Pride goes to Tokyo and confront Shigamatsu demanding that he leave her father alone. 08:57.891 --> 09:06.940 [UNKNOWN]: Then she decides to battle Ogun to the death, as well as change her image, and call herself Shadow Cat, because of her new Ninja abilities. 09:07.600 --> 09:13.286 [UNKNOWN]: She changes places with Lady Maruko, assuming that Ogun would try to kill her, and she was right. 09:13.846 --> 09:19.672 [UNKNOWN]: Kitty fights well, but in the end, Ogoon tries to control her mind once again, but she resists. 09:20.312 --> 09:25.978 [UNKNOWN]: And so, as the issue ends, Ogoon is about to kill her when Wolverine shows up. 09:26.618 --> 09:27.199 [UNKNOWN]: Edward, do you think? 09:27.820 --> 09:29.081 [UNKNOWN]: Uh, I enjoyed it. 09:29.201 --> 09:29.802 [UNKNOWN]: I'm glad. 09:30.102 --> 09:32.584 [UNKNOWN]: I was starting to get, you know, kind of worried about Kitty. 09:32.965 --> 09:36.027 [UNKNOWN]: Um, she was running into some concerns there by the end of the story. 09:36.668 --> 09:37.348 [UNKNOWN]: I kept waiting. 09:37.388 --> 09:40.830 [UNKNOWN]: It's like, come on, you know, we'll rent no page turn. 09:40.850 --> 09:43.691 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, coming back for the Wolverine page. 09:43.852 --> 09:44.612 [UNKNOWN]: No, not yet. 09:44.772 --> 09:45.772 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, okay, come on. 09:45.792 --> 09:47.833 [UNKNOWN]: So, yeah, so he did. 09:47.993 --> 09:52.596 [UNKNOWN]: And of course, in true comic book fashion, it was the very last page, which was one panel. 09:52.776 --> 09:59.579 [UNKNOWN]: So, yeah, the final panel of the story was where what had been leading up to the last half of the book occurred. 09:59.599 --> 10:01.140 [UNKNOWN]: And so you're like, okay, that's yeah. 10:01.600 --> 10:25.203 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's it's weird because I feel like I remember Wolverine being in the in the entire story way more than he actually is and I have to keep reminding myself it's not called Wolverine and kitty pride it's kitty pride and Wolverine she's the star she's the she's got top billing so not that I I mean it's not that I'm reading it now going 10:25.623 --> 10:50.282 [UNKNOWN]: where the fuck is Wolverine right because i'm still enjoying the hell of it hell out of it i just for some reason i thought that there was more with him and ogoon fighting right then what will end up seeing in the final issue but sure i mean you know that it was our our memory is only what for 40 years old at this point right about this so it's like yeah your your memory may be leading you wrong a little bit it's yeah so what 10:50.922 --> 11:08.453 [UNKNOWN]: And the other funny thing is that for some reason, the moment I started to read this issue, the moment I opened it up and it got to that first splash page, I felt more nostalgic feelings for this issue than I have the other four before. 11:08.613

--> 11:09.354 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know why. 11:09.774 --> 11:14.837 [UNKNOWN]: It's like maybe when it after it had come out when I was, you know, how old I was back then. 11:15.258 --> 11:16.138 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe this is one, 11:20.841 --> 11:28.184 [UNKNOWN]: It was weird because as soon as I opened it up and got a splash page, I just went, I'm back in my bedroom and I'm reading this comic book. 11:28.244 --> 11:30.665 [UNKNOWN]: So yeah, it's fun. 11:30.785 --> 11:37.808 [UNKNOWN]: It's funny how particularly for me those at that time, a handful of ex books that were out. 11:44.111 --> 12:01.987 [UNKNOWN]: bits and pieces of my memory that go back to, you know, when, whether it be me or someone I knew, some other aspect of pop culture or, and particularly, it's things that chances are I haven't really spent any time revisiting. 12:02.587 --> 12:03.748 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, otherwise. 12:03.788 --> 12:13.772 [UNKNOWN]: So it's like, it's brand new revisit of these things that were impacting me, however, at the time that I originally was reading these stories. 12:13.812 --> 12:18.754 [UNKNOWN]: And so at this time, there's three or four main X books. 12:18.854 --> 12:20.455 [UNKNOWN]: And then there's a mini series here in there. 12:20.475 --> 12:27.037 [UNKNOWN]: So I mean, it's a very concentrated offering of things that I can use to remember back. 12:27.077 --> 12:30.639 [UNKNOWN]: It's not like today that has 50 or 60 X books. 12:31.099 --> 12:37.161 [UNKNOWN]: You know, good luck remembering any of them much less who or where you were when you read them 40 years from now. 12:37.321 --> 12:43.484 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know, chances are 40 years from now, I could pick up a book and I'm like, I don't even remember this. 12:43.564 --> 12:44.964 [UNKNOWN]: What this came out, right? 12:44.984 --> 12:45.345 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 12:45.725 --> 12:53.928 [UNKNOWN]: Whereas these because they're so concentrated and focused, it's easier to get back into that frame of mind. 12:54.498 --> 13:10.192 [UNKNOWN]: Well, and have you ever, you know, you're reading one of these older books, have you ever ever just, you know, from the moment you see the cover or you turn a page, you see a panel, and it's like, suddenly, you get these not just memories, but it's almost like sense memories. 13:10.272 --> 13:18.439 [UNKNOWN]: It's like, when I, when I open this up digitally, even, you know, swipe over to the first page, suddenly I can, 13:20.115 --> 13:45.230 [UNKNOWN]: it's not it's it's weird to to subscribe because it's not like I was smelling things but it's it's just suddenly my environment something about the environment felt like there should be tape cassettes laying around and uh you know action figures and basically I felt like I was back in my bedroom and as a as a as a teenager and yeah it's just weird when that happens and that is powerful 13:47.631 --> 14:00.218 [UNKNOWN]: And whatever it may be, you know, primarily on that list of things that people always talk about our songs, music and lyrics, they absolutely do that throughout your whole life. 14:00.278 --> 14:14.085 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you can pick songs, you know, every 10 years of your life and replay it, and there you are, 10 years old, 20 years old, 30 years of, you know, so yeah, it's, I'm, I'm getting to the point where I'm enjoying the, 14:14.765 --> 14:19.228 [UNKNOWN]: the sensations of doing that more and more as I get farther and farther away from that. 14:19.568 --> 14:28.033 [UNKNOWN]: Not that I necessarily have forgotten or I don't necessarily have a desire to, you know, go back or remember those are whatever. 14:28.513 --> 14:35.898 [UNKNOWN]: But I do like the aspect that I can go in here and I can pick now a hard-bound collection of whatever. 14:36.498 --> 14:37.419 [UNKNOWN]: Open it up and I'm like, 14:39.980 --> 14:44.301 [UNKNOWN]: This is then, you know, even though it's not, but it's like, no, it is. 14:44.421 --> 14:45.342 [UNKNOWN]: That's, yeah, that's. 14:45.562 --> 14:48.963 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, it does happen to me more often with music. 14:50.564 --> 14:52.704 [UNKNOWN]: And it's funny because I'll hear a song. 14:53.424 --> 14:56.746 [UNKNOWN]: And suddenly, you know, again, it's the whole tape cassette thing. 14:56.846 --> 15:01.687 [UNKNOWN]: I can feel the play, I can opening up that tape cassette. 15:01.707 --> 15:03.368 [UNKNOWN]: This sound, it makes the feel it makes. 15:03.788 --> 15:06.949 [UNKNOWN]: And I also, there are certain songs that not only do I feel that, 15:07.489 --> 15:19.160 [UNKNOWN]: I can tell, oh, I got this tape from Columbia House because I'm suddenly seeing a box in front of me with like nine tapes in it, you know, and picking out which one I wanted to listen to first. 15:19.740 --> 15:24.545 [UNKNOWN]: So I have the habit in in my mind and 15:25.325 --> 15:39.777 [UNKNOWN]: Um, usually when I'm with somebody which is typically going to be my wife, um, when I'm listening to music, I don't do too much when I'm like sitting in my office at work or what have you, but I'll hear a song, and automatically I start singing the next song on the album or the next song in the tape. 15:39.958 --> 15:41.339 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because that's what comes next. 15:41.419 --> 15:50.266 [UNKNOWN]: It's, you know, even though it's like, no, you're listening to a playlist of one song of a whole bunch of different things and it's but no, you know, the next song was, yeah. 15:50.586 --> 15:50.787 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 15:51.487 --> 16:08.983 [UNKNOWN]: It's been happening to me a lot recently because just a couple of weeks ago, I kind of made this decision, you know, I'm, I'm always because of music services like Apple music or Amazon music or Spotify or whatever, you know, it's like, all I do is make playlists and listen to some of my favorite songs. 16:09.584 --> 16:13.287 [UNKNOWN]: Bill from Long Island says involuntary autobiographical memories. 16:13.668 --> 16:13.848 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 16:14.188 -->

16:18.391 [UNKNOWN]: is it bill is that is that a thing or is that just like words that you put together? 16:18.431 --> 16:19.291 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, is that an official? 16:19.852 --> 16:28.637 [UNKNOWN]: But I started thinking about that and I was like, you know, I used to just put a tape cassette in the radio and listen to the whole album. 16:28.697 --> 16:33.200 [UNKNOWN]: So I started going through and listening to the full albums from a lot of the stuff. 16:33.661 --> 16:35.982 [UNKNOWN]: And it's Bill says it's an actual official thing. 16:37.723 --> 16:56.110 [UNKNOWN]: But so there were a lot of stuff that I've only been listening over the last 20 years to maybe two or three songs off that album right all the time and so I mean I'm hitting songs that's like I was driving down Main Street in Udoa, Kansas when I first heard this song. 16:56.650 --> 17:00.772 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, every triggered by sensory inputs is bill from long Island. 17:00.812 --> 17:02.392 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the brain is a thing, man. 17:02.592 --> 17:03.653 [UNKNOWN]: It's just crazy. 17:04.193 --> 17:13.215 [UNKNOWN]: No wonder it's so easy to for it to be off-kilter as massively awesome as the things that it can do. 17:14.095 --> 17:21.817 [UNKNOWN]: It's got to be just a hares breath from not being able to do that or from doing that incorrectly or differently or what have you. 17:22.317 --> 17:33.160 [UNKNOWN]: So it's no wonder that there are millions of people that in all honesty the way that they experience their reality is different from the way I experience mine. 17:33.600 --> 17:33.740 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 17:34.180 --> 17:42.522 [UNKNOWN]: You know, absolutely no judgment, good or bad, right or wrong, just it's different because there's just this one little thing in the brain that is different between the two of us. 17:42.602 --> 17:44.762 [UNKNOWN]: And so that that makes the difference. 17:44.802 --> 17:45.042 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 17:45.062 --> 17:47.323 [UNKNOWN]: It's it's pretty pretty profound. 17:47.363 --> 17:51.604 [UNKNOWN]: Almost a, um, I think a profound, I almost like a religious level. 17:52.084 --> 17:53.824 [UNKNOWN]: I don't profound religions are for people. 17:54.445 --> 17:57.865 [UNKNOWN]: Brain thinking about what the brain does is just wow. 17:58.265 --> 17:58.425 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 17:58.525 --> 18:01.066 [UNKNOWN]: Or as we get older, the things that the brain doesn't do. 18:01.526 --> 18:06.589 [UNKNOWN]: He's also, yeah, I think you're used, you're brain used to do and just, does it quite handle very well? 18:06.609 --> 18:13.953 [UNKNOWN]: No, it doesn't, I can't do that, you know, the old computer slowed down and you, unfortunately, we can't upgrade. 18:14.493 --> 18:21.457 [UNKNOWN]: No, I can't put in more RAM or, you know, change the BIOS if my, if my battery runs out. 18:21.897 --> 18:23.178 [UNKNOWN]: Man, that's, that's pretty much it. 18:23.198 --> 18:24.839 [UNKNOWN]: I'll have to figure out how to do without it. 18:25.199 --> 18:28.461 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's, all right, you want to take us through this issue? 18:44.813 --> 18:47.974 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, we'll start here on the front page from page on the front cover. 18:48.674 --> 18:57.476 [UNKNOWN]: We see over here in the corner about two thirds of the way down it's signed by Al-Milgrim, so my assumption is going to be that he did pencils and inks if there are both. 18:58.357 --> 19:00.357 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know necessarily that he would have done the coloring. 19:00.377 --> 19:03.158 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know that he colors, but so this is all him. 19:04.138 --> 19:07.499 [UNKNOWN]: Again, we have this concept of a split, 19:14.641 --> 19:18.582 [UNKNOWN]: could be interpreted as good and bad, you know, whatever dichotomy you want to use. 19:19.263 --> 19:27.785 [UNKNOWN]: The interesting thing about this cover in particular is that in the background, as you can see, you have the, I was going to say the head, but what is that bust? 19:28.065 --> 19:29.026 [UNKNOWN]: Is that a bust? 19:29.366 --> 19:31.406 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, like this from the shoulders up. 19:31.706 --> 19:39.389 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, a Wolverine in his tan and black costume, which is the, for me, it's the appropriate Wolverine costume. 19:39.609 --> 19:40.709 [UNKNOWN]: I know there are people that 19:43.630 --> 19:48.213 [UNKNOWN]: uh, tan and black or light and dark brown or however you want to shade it. 19:48.254 --> 19:49.014 [UNKNOWN]: That's yeah. 19:49.374 --> 19:57.160 [UNKNOWN]: It ultimately, like everything else, it depends on what you were exposed to usually first. 19:57.320 --> 19:57.560 [UNKNOWN]: First. 19:57.760 --> 19:57.961 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 19:58.061 --> 20:00.502 [UNKNOWN]: It's, you know, it's that I just read a whole article. 20:00.522 --> 20:04.986 [UNKNOWN]: I can't remember about uh, the origins of the GI Joe movie. 20:05.586 --> 20:17.816 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, and all the crazy stuff that they put in there with Cobra Law and all that junk and how, you know, there are certain people, anybody who, uh, like my age typically doesn't like it and think it's crazy. 20:17.976 --> 20:18.337 [UNKNOWN]: I like it. 20:18.357 --> 20:19.558 [UNKNOWN]: I've always liked GI show the movie. 20:19.878 --> 20:25.542 [UNKNOWN]: And then, but then, uh, people who are a little bit younger when they, you know, they came into GI Joe around that time. 20:25.562 --> 20:26.303 [UNKNOWN]: They, they love it. 20:26.743 --> 20:30.426 [UNKNOWN]: It's like the Ewoks as well, you know, older fans hate the Ewoks. 20:30.466 --> 20:31.707 [UNKNOWN]: Younger fans love them. 20:31.828 --> 20:31.988 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 20:32.528 --> 20:44.607 [UNKNOWN]: Um, but here we have the head of Wolverine and he's holding up one hand and you can see this is the traditional he has three claws, which basically if you look at your hand is one between each No, so that's that's why there's three. 20:45.068 --> 20:47.051 [UNKNOWN]: He's got the claws extended now 20:47.912 --> 20:53.696 [UNKNOWN]:

The middle claw is basically the line between the two sides of the cover. 20:54.116 --> 21:02.761 [UNKNOWN]: The left side as we look at the cover is Kitty Pride in her shadowcat outfit, with a scarf that is way too long to be practical and is going to end up breaking her neck. 21:04.142 --> 21:13.466 [UNKNOWN]: And then on the right side, we have Ogun wearing his demon mask, which we have seen that it's something he can put on and take off. 21:14.327 --> 21:18.669 [UNKNOWN]: No, we have seen him without it early on, but that was really before we knew who he was. 21:19.629 --> 21:28.740 [UNKNOWN]: Um, we now know that essentially he's a man and he likes to wear this mask for for for intimidation purposes when he officially works, you know, whatever the hide is identity. 21:29.220 --> 21:31.283 [UNKNOWN]: That scarf is ridiculous. 21:31.523 --> 21:34.827 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's why give your opponent something to grab on to. 21:35.367 --> 21:37.849 [UNKNOWN]: Not just your opponent, but you get caught in a fucking door. 21:37.869 --> 21:50.720 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, get caught in an elevator, get caught in an elevator, I mean, that's just, I will give Kitty Pride a pass because even if somebody was to grab a hold of it or she got it caught on a barbed wire fence, she could just phase. 21:51.281 --> 21:53.743 [UNKNOWN]: But depending on what she's doing, can she phase fast enough to not break her neck? 21:53.763 --> 21:53.863 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:53.883 --> 21:53.983 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:54.003 --> 21:54.123 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:54.143 --> 21:54.303 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:54.324 --> 21:54.424 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:54.444 --> 21:54.544 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:54.564 --> 21:54.664 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:54.684 --> 21:54.784 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:54.804 --> 21:54.904 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:54.924 --> 21:55.024 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:55.044 --> 21:55.144 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:55.164 --> 21:55.264 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:55.284 --> 21:55.384 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:55.404 --> 21:55.505 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:55.525 --> 21:55.625 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:55.645 --> 21:55.745 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:55.765 --> 21:55.865 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:55.905 --> 21:56.005 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:56.025 --> 21:56.125 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:56.145 --> 21:56.245 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:56.265 --> 21:56.365 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:56.385 --> 21:56.485 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:56.505 --> 21:56.605 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:56.625 --> 21:56.786 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:56.806 --> 21:56.926 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:56.946 --> 21:57.066 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:57.086 --> 21:57.226 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:57.246 --> 21:57.346 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:57.366 --> 21:57.486 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:57.506 --> 21:57.666 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:57.686 --> 21:57.827 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:57.847 --> 21:57.987 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:58.007 --> 21:58.127 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:58.147 --> 21:58.267 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:58.287 --> 21:58.387 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:58.407 --> 21:58.527 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:58.547 --> 21:58.647 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:58.667 --> 21:58.767 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:58.787 --> 21:58.887 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:58.907 --> 21:59.008 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:59.028 --> 21:59.128 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:59.148 --> 21:59.248 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:59.268 --> 21:59.368 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:59.388 --> 21:59.488 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:59.508 --> 21:59.608 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:59.628 --> 21:59.748 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:59.768 --> 21:59.888 [UNKNOWN]: True. 21:59.908 --> 22:00.048 [UNKNOWN]: True. 22:00.068 --> 22:00.189 [UNKNOWN]: True. 22:00.209 --> 22:00.329 [UNKNOWN]: True. 22:00.349 --> 22:00.449 [UNKNOWN]: True. 22:00.469 --> 22:00.569 [UNKNOWN]: True. 22:00.589 --> 22:00.709 [UNKNOWN]: True. 22:00.729 --> 22:00.829 [UNKNOWN]: True. 22:00.869 --> 22:00.969 [UNKNOWN]: True. 22:00.989 --> 22:01.089 [UNKNOWN]: True. 22:01.109 --> 22:01.209 [UNKNOWN]: True. 22:01.249 --> 22:01.350 [UNKNOWN]: True. 22:01.370 --> 22:01.470 [UNKNOWN]: True. 22:01.490 --> 22:01.590 [UNKNOWN]: True. 22:01.610 --> 22:01.710 [UNKNOWN]: True. 22:01.730 --> 22:01.830 [UNKNOWN]: True. 22:02.050 --> 22:03.491 [UNKNOWN]: It's probably wrapped around her neck. 22:03.991 --> 22:07.033 [UNKNOWN]: So if somebody or something were to pull on both sides, it'll constrict. 22:07.593 --> 22:08.174 [UNKNOWN]: It'll choke. 22:08.474 --> 22:12.136 [UNKNOWN]: She won't be able to concentrate in us too phase because and it'll break her neck. 22:12.216 --> 22:14.117 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's just, it's a bad idea. 22:15.478 --> 22:18.159 [UNKNOWN]: We don't talk as comic book readers. 22:18.539 --> 22:21.321 [UNKNOWN]: Very much about the practicality of outfits. 22:21.441 --> 22:28.125 [UNKNOWN]: It's part of the suspension of disbelief that we have to have to read comic books and enjoy them to begin with. 22:28.885 --> 22:38.303 [UNKNOWN]: you know the the sidewalk swimsuit wearing ultra ninja e kind of person operating in the North Pole on a mission. 22:38.644 --> 22:40.527 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know we're like, okay, yeah, that's fine. 22:41.187 --> 22:54.172 [UNKNOWN]: No, you know, but the 90s thing with the big shoulder pads and there are some characters where they just put stuff like right on either side of their heads like, how are they seeing exactly right? 22:54.212 --> 22:57.374 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but 23:01.255 --> 23:04.978 [UNKNOWN]: So, but this, yeah, her scarf just really sticks out to me. 23:04.998 --> 23:13.424 [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, you can have it long like maybe up to maybe her elbow, the way this is streaming, which is about half, but that's just, yeah. 23:13.504 --> 23:18.428 [UNKNOWN]: So, or just leave it as the Scooby-Doo Fred Ascot. 23:18.808 --> 23:19.229 [UNKNOWN]: Here you go. 23:19.269 --> 23:20.650 [UNKNOWN]: There, the White Ascot, right? 23:20.670 --> 23:23.572 [UNKNOWN]: You know, that's for four or sticks of knives on the end of it. 23:23.592 --> 23:24.813 [UNKNOWN]: And flick them around. 23:24.833 --> 23:27.015 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, fling them in there, like none chips. 23:27.695 --> 23:28.556 [UNKNOWN]:

Yeah. 23:28.956 --> 23:34.159 [UNKNOWN]: And also to finish the pose, Kitty may or may not look like she's attacking. 23:34.219 --> 23:35.539 [UNKNOWN]: This could be a defensive pose. 23:36.120 --> 23:39.061 [UNKNOWN]: Ogun is definitely attacking because he's wielding a katana. 23:39.502 --> 23:46.866 [UNKNOWN]: He has the Wakazashi on his belt, which is the other half of the pair that Samurai 23:51.588 --> 24:00.611 [UNKNOWN]: is called something but the pair the word for the pair is escaping me but it's a katana and a wakazashi I believe are the names of the swords themselves and then the pair has another name. 24:01.612 --> 24:07.154 [UNKNOWN]: So my impression of looking at it is Wolverine is 24:08.594 --> 24:13.855 [UNKNOWN]: I'm looking on maybe if you want to look at it like that, or he is part of the story. 24:14.375 --> 24:27.239 [UNKNOWN]: But the story is going to be about Ogun attacking, and I've put up the quotes, Kitty Pride, that seems to be what this cover is telling me is going to be inside. 24:27.359 --> 24:32.780 [UNKNOWN]: Now, we will see if that is truly, you know, how much of a connection the cover has to the inside. 24:33.861 --> 24:38.826 [UNKNOWN]: Up to this point, the covers have been pretty reflective of the story. 24:40.028 --> 24:50.860 [UNKNOWN]: Even at this time that this came out, that wasn't always the case, so we'll just have to flip through it and see if there's that much of a connection between the piece of art that they used for the cover and we see inside the story. 24:51.260 --> 25:14.162 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm not want to read into, I can't, I'm not really good about finding messages and whatnot when, you know, didn't meaning spine images and stuff, but I guess if I was, I would look at that and think, all right, we have Ogoon attacking Kitty, Kitty's getting ready to defend herself, and Wolverine will eventually get between them. 25:14.983 --> 25:17.183 [UNKNOWN]: And that's, that's what we see in the issue. 25:17.704 --> 25:19.524 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, it will shrink, it's between them. 25:20.124 --> 25:21.985 [UNKNOWN]: It's pretty late to be continued. 25:22.305 --> 25:24.805 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, it did, you know, it's like, wow, it's okay. 25:25.325 --> 25:33.107 [UNKNOWN]: So first, first panel, first page is an entire page panel, a one panel page. 25:34.147 --> 25:42.369 [UNKNOWN]: And it is an older gentleman, which we're told over here in the narration is, um, the second one too. 25:43.089 --> 25:52.711 [UNKNOWN]: Which is, it's Shigamatu, so that's, I mean, it's his company and so does it say that it down here it says, okay, down at the bottom. 25:52.831 --> 25:54.732 [UNKNOWN]: Hi, G. Hi, do you think Shigamatu? 25:54.972 --> 26:09.695 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, um, the O' you button or the, the Godfather, the big monkey muck, uh, the head poobah, um, if you want to use those kinds of terminologies of the company that Kitty Pride found that her husband, 26:10.235 --> 26:12.836 [UNKNOWN]: Well, her husband, excuse me, her father, her dad. 26:13.036 --> 26:14.156 [UNKNOWN]: Ooh, that was, yeah, no. 26:14.916 --> 26:17.737 [UNKNOWN]: This isn't Xavier Jean Grey kind of stuff. 26:17.817 --> 26:20.097 [UNKNOWN]: This is Kitty and her husband. 26:20.197 --> 26:20.858 [UNKNOWN]: I did it again. 26:21.358 --> 26:21.698 [UNKNOWN]: Her dad. 26:21.718 --> 26:22.098 [UNKNOWN]: That's all right. 26:22.278 --> 26:23.238 [UNKNOWN]: Kitty and her dad. 26:23.698 --> 26:23.998 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 26:24.558 --> 26:26.459 [UNKNOWN]: Um, kick, kick, kitty and her dad. 26:26.919 --> 26:27.559 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there you go. 26:28.139 --> 26:30.540 [UNKNOWN]: And is Kitty's sister's name, Benny? 26:31.060 --> 26:31.580 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 26:32.200 --> 26:33.260 [UNKNOWN]: Benny and the chat. 26:33.280 --> 26:34.361 [UNKNOWN]: That's a Benny and the chat. 26:34.381 --> 26:35.381 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's it. 26:35.561 --> 26:37.982 [UNKNOWN]: So no, I don't, I don't think Kitty hasn't. 26:44.303 --> 26:54.645 [UNKNOWN]: So to start the story off, Kitty found out that her dad was involved with Shigomatsu, a bank that he was part of. 26:54.705 --> 27:01.967 [UNKNOWN]: This is the company that is the holder of the bank, the bank is part of his company. 27:02.207 --> 27:03.047 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 27:03.147 --> 27:05.988 [UNKNOWN]: That's the whole reason why Kitty is where she is. 27:07.148 --> 27:23.854 [UNKNOWN]: gone back to visit him again, the man who is responsible for the ill that has fallen upon her dad, trying to sever however she can and I guess being an ninja that's probably the appropriate term, sever. 27:24.394 --> 27:49.968 [UNKNOWN]: that relationship between this evil man and her dad she's doing in an effort to protect her dad but also try to get normality back to things you know the way it was the way it was supposed to be back when she you know is thinking about her dad rather than all this current stuff that shows him maybe is not being what she thought he was and he's wrapped up with bad people and et cetera et cetera yeah 27:50.428 --> 28:05.537 [UNKNOWN]: A very, a very standard kind of story trope for a child in a pop culture medium that finds that one of their parents is doing things that perhaps aren't good, and that's how the child tries to help is to. 28:06.057 --> 28:27.508 [UNKNOWN]: intercede and and sever that so that things can go back to the way that we're so she does that threatens she go much to then phases away before he can first of all before he can do anything physically you know before he can really defend himself she she comes on like a ghost she's dressed like a ninja so that's kind of playing on his 28:28.328 --> 28:34.910 [UNKNOWN]: um, his folk tale side of things and maybe an aspect of the Japanese culture that he's familiar with. 28:34.950 --> 28:53.556 [UNKNOWN]: So she is speaking his language, yeah, um, threatens him, tells him to stop, and then phases away and drops down a floor or two out of the office that she was,

which is her mutant power, which is why she's an X-Men, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy. 28:54.056 --> 29:03.339 [UNKNOWN]: As we go forward, there is so much more if you haven't listened to past episodes that we could go back about these characters and the story and things like that. 29:05.200 --> 29:12.222 [UNKNOWN]: If I seem to be going back and forth a little bit too much, I find that I'm going backwards and I want to stop before I go all the way. 29:12.902 --> 29:14.803 [UNKNOWN]: You know, because we're talking about this issue. 29:15.403 --> 29:22.544 [UNKNOWN]: But you can still, and I don't mean to try to scare anybody off that wants to pick this up now and read it. 29:23.104 --> 29:28.626 [UNKNOWN]: I certainly would recommend that you read the entire mini, not just issue 5. 29:29.146 --> 29:32.686 [UNKNOWN]: Everything, really, that you need to know is in the mini series. 29:32.766 --> 29:33.046 [UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah. 29:33.626 --> 29:41.088 [UNKNOWN]: There are avenues that you can take for a whole bunch of background information outside of that, as far as the characters and the situations. 29:41.928 --> 29:51.874 [UNKNOWN]: The story is complete and just definitely don't just pick up five or because you hear us, pick up five and six, try to get all six of the books and and get the complete story. 29:54.595 --> 29:57.397 [UNKNOWN]: The comic book show will return after these messages. 29:59.334 --> 30:05.776 [UNKNOWN]: In a world where there's often 60-plus years of history to worry about, how can you quickly get into a new comic character or franchise? 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32:15.024 --> 32:16.185 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, sure, where there are the, okay. 32:16.626 --> 32:26.696 [UNKNOWN]: Well, it's, I mean, it's a pretty good, particularly Kitty, you know, I want to see what she's like now since she wasn't like this and then after this mini series, she's this. 32:27.196 --> 32:29.318 [UNKNOWN]: different aspect of herself, I'd like to follow that. 32:30.319 --> 32:31.600 [UNKNOWN]: Wolverine, who is this dude? 32:31.640 --> 32:32.160 [UNKNOWN]: What's he doing? 32:32.200 --> 32:32.440 [UNKNOWN]: What? 32:32.561 --> 32:35.903 [UNKNOWN]: That's like all kinds of major story you could go on. 32:36.744 --> 32:45.952 [UNKNOWN]: Lady Maruko, the Japanese aspect of Wolverine's life, but it kind of has a life of its own, is something that you could read about. 32:45.972 --> 32:49.515 [UNKNOWN]: So yeah, there's a lot of off-road you could take just from this 32:53.438 --> 33:05.943 [UNKNOWN]: What's funny though, knowing that when I first read this, you know, as a young teenager, hadn't read any X-Men before followed along fine, nothing. 33:06.084 --> 33:08.445 [UNKNOWN]: I didn't get tripped up on anything, really liked it. 33:08.945 --> 33:15.147 [UNKNOWN]: When I'm reading it this, when I was reading this issue, when we get to the part where they bring Lady Maruko into it, 33:16.921 --> 33:22.585 [UNKNOWN]: I almost felt like, wow, they just drop her into this as if we're supposed to know who she is. 33:23.485 --> 33:27.748 [UNKNOWN]: And I found that, I found that kind of weird that back then I didn't care. 33:28.469 --> 33:31.250 [UNKNOWN]: You know, but, okay, yeah. 33:31.270 --> 33:35.193 [UNKNOWN]: And I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that at the time, 33:35.633 --> 33:39.336 [UNKNOWN]: the writer of this mini-series was the same person that was writing the X-Men. 33:39.436 --> 33:43.479 [UNKNOWN]: So by this time, all of this stuff was just second nature to him. 33:43.539 --> 33:54.508

[UNKNOWN]: He thought about different aspects of this for years and he's finally getting it down and it's like, like, um, his, at this time, I believe the editor was Jim Shooter. 33:55.008 --> 34:03.095 [UNKNOWN]: And I believe it's it's Jim Shooter that that I always think first said every issue is somebody's first issue and I think 34:03.635 --> 34:23.258 [UNKNOWN]: uh... in in editing uh... his his creators output that was something that he says he always kept in mind and always tried to tell them so sometimes that works sometimes the concept doesn't nowadays uh... if you read an ex book there's no way that you can keep that in mind because there's just too much and it just goes everywhere 34:23.758 --> 34:34.530 [UNKNOWN]: Here, they've only been going strong since 80, was it 82 that the new X-Men came? 34:34.790 --> 34:38.354 [UNKNOWN]: I forget when that happened with giant size, and then X-Men 94. 34:41.176 --> 35:06.155 [UNKNOWN]: 90s to sevens is no 80s to late feel like it was really late like 78 79 or maybe five maybe 75 so yeah basically we'll we'll say you've got about 10 years of X-Men and most of it is just X-Men there's not been at the time this came out I don't believe there's been any offshoots other than maybe a mini series here and there not like 35:06.815 --> 35:15.120 [UNKNOWN]: X-Force and Factor and uncanny and adjectiveless X-Men and X-Calibur and X. Yeah, all of that comes much later. 35:15.640 --> 35:17.882 [UNKNOWN]: Had had new mutants even started at this point. 35:18.522 --> 35:22.164 [UNKNOWN]: I believe so, but just recently, not too long ago. 35:22.725 --> 35:31.950 [UNKNOWN]: So I would say new mutants probably had three or four years going at this point, which the crossover between the two though wasn't really heavy. 35:32.210 --> 35:34.712 [UNKNOWN]: You could honestly read the two books. 35:35.472 --> 35:56.567 [UNKNOWN]: by themselves and not have to read the other book to know what was going on because they didn't didn't cross over very much that graphic novel that started the new mutants there was a lot of connective tissue there um the fact that the new mutants lived in the same building as the X-Men so you would see maybe one or the other uh character from one of the groups in a story 35:57.367 --> 35:58.367 [UNKNOWN]: And that was about it. 35:58.407 --> 36:06.030 [UNKNOWN]: There wasn't too much of, well, really to understand this, you know, the narrator says we need to see issue this of the other book. 36:06.510 --> 36:08.911 [UNKNOWN]: That didn't really happen too too much early on. 36:09.051 --> 36:18.554 [UNKNOWN]: Now, the longer the new mutants were out there, of course, Marvel is the company realized that those suckers out there will buy both books if you tell them they need to buy both books. 36:18.614 --> 36:20.995 [UNKNOWN]: And so it got to be more and more. 36:21.515 --> 36:21.695 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 36:22.220 --> 36:30.688 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, but before we move on, I do just want to say that this is this little sequence here is just, I just love it so much. 36:30.708 --> 36:39.076 [UNKNOWN]: I like to imagine if this was a movie or a TV show, we would have actually started with just Shigamatsu at the desk, you know. 36:39.416 --> 36:45.542 [UNKNOWN]: doing his thing, calculating whatever he's doing, writing a letter, and then her coming up would have been like a jumpscare. 36:45.582 --> 36:45.882 [UNKNOWN]: Boo! 36:46.463 --> 36:54.850 [UNKNOWN]: And, but just the way she just, she comes up out of the desk, as soon as she's clear of the desk, she, she's no longer phasing. 36:55.170 --> 36:56.191 [UNKNOWN]: She grabs him. 36:56.952 --> 37:03.060 [UNKNOWN]: keeps going that uses the momentum to pull to push him and the chair back. 37:03.501 --> 37:12.373 [UNKNOWN]: So he lands on his back and the chair and then as soon as they hit the ground, bam, she phases through him and through the through the through the floor and escape. 37:12.393 --> 37:13.374 [UNKNOWN]: So in the whole time, she's like, 37:13.915 --> 37:15.016 [UNKNOWN]: mess with my dad again. 37:15.096 --> 37:16.377 [UNKNOWN]: I'll kick your ass. 37:16.417 --> 37:19.119 [UNKNOWN]: You know, I just, it's a, I like the way it flows. 37:19.199 --> 37:23.522 [UNKNOWN]: It's, yeah, I would really like to see this in animated or live action form. 37:23.542 --> 37:24.362 [UNKNOWN]: It's animated. 37:24.382 --> 37:26.524 [UNKNOWN]: They could definitely pull it off live action. 37:26.724 --> 37:30.186 [UNKNOWN]: We'd have to see, but yeah, in animation, you could easily pull this off. 37:30.206 --> 37:30.827 [UNKNOWN]: She jumps up. 37:31.307 --> 37:39.652 [UNKNOWN]: through the desk, and then she's kind of sitting on the desk, holding him backwards, but not letting him fall, giving her the chance to talk to him. 37:40.132 --> 37:53.881 [UNKNOWN]: And then when she's done, she basically, you know, pushes him or lets him fall, lets his white carry her, and then to finish the scene as everyone falls to the floor, she uses that momentum to just carry her through, phasing through 37:58.083 --> 38:04.147 [UNKNOWN]: grabs and pushes him off balance, talks to him, you can, you almost can see her shaking him, you know, talking shit. 38:04.467 --> 38:11.771 [UNKNOWN]: And then she pushes him on over and uses that momentum to carry the circle where she goes on around and through him and she's gone. 38:12.292 --> 38:15.774 [UNKNOWN]: I just, I don't know, 10 or 15 seconds, maybe total. 38:16.374 --> 38:25.756 [UNKNOWN]: of, you know, almost just enough that you're like, you know, did this happen or did I imagine and push back and I just fell on my own or what? 38:26.196 --> 38:29.257 [UNKNOWN]: Because she's not going to leave really anything behind. 38:29.277 --> 38:30.817 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, she phased up and out. 38:30.917 --> 38:37.479 [UNKNOWN]: So if you look for evidence of what happened, dude's not going to find any, the police aren't going to find any or whatever. 38:37.579 -->

38:44.561 [UNKNOWN]: So, and so if this was live action or animated, you know, it's almost like the, the whole, the sequence could 38:46.281 --> 38:52.543 [UNKNOWN]: This quiet moment at the beginning, where he's just doing his work at his desk, then suddenly boom, wow yelling, cry, cry, cry, cry. 38:52.803 --> 38:55.144 [UNKNOWN]: And then she's down, then she goes, she's gone. 38:55.164 --> 38:57.305 [UNKNOWN]: And then it's just him again. 38:57.325 --> 38:57.945 [UNKNOWN]: He's laying though. 38:59.065 --> 39:00.626 [UNKNOWN]: Some papers fluttering, right? 39:00.666 --> 39:07.728 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, falling off the desk, as he threw up what he was looking at, and maybe some of the papers are still fluttering down there at the end. 39:08.168 --> 39:16.371 [UNKNOWN]: Nothing else is going on, right, that just the papers and him laying there wondering what that was happening. 39:17.051 --> 39:19.452 [UNKNOWN]: That would be good to see, particularly live action. 39:19.692 --> 39:21.852 [UNKNOWN]: They definitely could pull it off and we want to make. 39:22.032 --> 39:24.633 [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, live action, that would be awesome to see. 39:25.033 --> 39:29.175 [UNKNOWN]: With, oh, I don't know, somebody like Black Widow or, you know, I don't understand. 39:29.195 --> 39:30.495 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, anyways. 39:30.535 --> 39:33.076 [UNKNOWN]: The ghost, right, the ghost is, who is that? 39:37.157 --> 39:39.378 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but we're getting next men into the universe. 39:39.418 --> 39:41.238 [UNKNOWN]: So, and the answer to you, maybe so. 39:41.258 --> 39:41.438 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 39:41.938 --> 39:47.780 [UNKNOWN]: So, she faces down a floor to just depending on how much momentum she had. 39:48.260 --> 39:51.041 [UNKNOWN]: And then she decides that she's going to go ahead and leave. 39:51.221 --> 39:54.342 [UNKNOWN]: And so she faces out airwalking. 39:54.382 --> 39:56.102 [UNKNOWN]: She calls it through the window. 39:56.763 --> 40:00.204 [UNKNOWN]: And she is like floating however many stories up. 40:02.705 --> 40:08.750 [UNKNOWN]: There's no other than being able to breathe, there's no negative to how high she can go. 40:08.810 --> 40:10.011 [UNKNOWN]: It doesn't really matter. 40:11.132 --> 40:16.617 [UNKNOWN]: And the only thing, of course, about breathing is maintainer of concentration, because she has to concentrate to phase. 40:17.017 --> 40:18.539 [UNKNOWN]: She has to phase to airwalk. 40:19.239 --> 40:25.304 [UNKNOWN]: And so basically, I guess what she does, I don't know, I can't even necessarily in my brain explainer. 40:25.324 --> 40:29.188 [UNKNOWN]: But she will walk horizontally, you know, from like building the building. 40:29.628 --> 40:34.230 [UNKNOWN]: but she can also go down like she's on stairs and she could ultimately end up on the ground. 40:34.791 --> 40:38.072 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know what the difference is in the application of the powers to be able to do that. 40:38.092 --> 40:40.314 [UNKNOWN]: That's science beyond my understanding. 40:40.874 --> 40:44.796 [UNKNOWN]: But she finds that she loses concentration here. 40:45.516 --> 40:53.040 [UNKNOWN]: And of course in losing concentration she becomes 100% normal flesh and blood which typically just does not float. 40:56.622 --> 41:12.636 [UNKNOWN]: Now, to the tune of I believe 32 feet per second squared, so that means for every second that you fall, your speed doubles, 32, 64, 128, et cetera, et cetera, as far as how fast you're falling. 41:12.796 --> 41:16.219 [UNKNOWN]: So that's why it's not the falling to get you. 41:16.319 --> 41:18.460 [UNKNOWN]: It's the sudden stopping that speed. 41:18.521 --> 41:18.721 [UNKNOWN]: That's 41:21.983 --> 41:46.412 [UNKNOWN]: So now she finds herself falling and you can see in this one panel, she's scrunching up her face trying to concentrate really, really hard, which to me is like, okay, that means that when you hit the ground, you'll just go right through it, but you already have this type of momentum built up and I don't know how phasing necessarily is going to stop the momentum. 41:46.992 --> 41:58.221 [UNKNOWN]: unless you face enough that you become like smoke and the wind just like dissipates your body, which is an issue kitty faces in her career farther down the road. 41:58.661 --> 42:13.472 [UNKNOWN]: But so I'm I'm I don't assume or presume to necessarily understand physics, but I think I understand enough to know that once your momentum, particularly in gravity, starts going in a certain direction of the certain 42:15.407 --> 42:18.469 [UNKNOWN]: You have to unmomentum in order to stop it. 42:18.509 --> 42:20.049 [UNKNOWN]: You have to reverse the momentum. 42:20.069 --> 42:27.593 [UNKNOWN]: You can't just change your state and anything in motion tends to stay in motion. 42:27.973 --> 42:29.834 [UNKNOWN]: Yep, a body in motion tends to stay in motion. 42:29.914 --> 42:34.176 [UNKNOWN]: So, and she is in motion very, very fast and plumber to who knows. 42:34.236 --> 42:40.378 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know, the way this is, it takes her several, several seconds to reassert her 42:42.239 --> 42:45.221 [UNKNOWN]: So she's going 4,500 miles an hour by this bad. 42:45.342 --> 42:46.442 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, she's Zoom it. 42:46.963 --> 42:52.928 [UNKNOWN]: So she does manage to reassert control over her phasiness and she stops. 42:53.899 --> 42:59.245 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know that it works that way, but okay, stops almost right in front of a police helicopter. 42:59.745 --> 43:01.787 [UNKNOWN]: And so now everything was going good. 43:02.288 --> 43:10.896 [UNKNOWN]: She had one witness to what was going on, you know, Shigamatsu, who may or may not, he's going to believe what his eyes saw him because he knows. 43:11.016 --> 43:17.283 [UNKNOWN]: But arguably convincing someone else that he's not going to really be able to convince him of what happened. 43:17.855 --> 43:30.403 [UNKNOWN]: Nobody is seeing her do anything, phasing down through the building into the air, air

walking all of this until suddenly, this helicopter probably saw her drop into visibility. 43:30.863 --> 43:42.810 [UNKNOWN]: So she was up above them, dropped down, reasserted control over her phasingness and just stopped in his hanging there and then the helicopter pilots are like, hey, what do you say that? 43:42.850 --> 43:43.211 [UNKNOWN]: What is that? 43:43.991 --> 43:44.692 [UNKNOWN]: Is that a person? 43:44.932 --> 43:46.293 [UNKNOWN]: Just kind of chilling there in the air? 43:46.333 --> 43:59.304 [UNKNOWN]: You know, so yeah, this is still that time in Marvel comics where even though they have been publishing Stories with these heroes since the 60s the world itself. 43:59.364 --> 44:11.215 [UNKNOWN]: I think it's still fairly new because you still have people who get surprised When they see somebody flying or right, you know, there was an Avengers issue or that I was reading from around this time where somebody's like, 44:11.715 --> 44:26.252 [UNKNOWN]: Or you're walking around in your PJ Amazon stuff like, you know, it's like, right now a day is it's You'd think that they would just be used to seeing all that, but this was still a time where they wanted us to believe that it was still fairly new to see somebody floating in the air like that. 44:26.912 --> 44:47.429 [UNKNOWN]: Um, so we, we have, you know, this is kind of, I guess the, the comedic relief aspect of the, of the story or of this issue, uh, the two, pilots go back and forth and we see Katie, she, she gives them a wave and then she drops from site, which I guess what she does is decreases her, um, 44:48.990 --> 44:56.657 [UNKNOWN]: phasiness to where she's more solid and so her weight continues to pull her down and in gravity. 44:57.297 --> 45:00.160 [UNKNOWN]: She's she's not confused as much now. 45:00.200 --> 45:06.806 [UNKNOWN]: So I guess she's a lot more able to turn it on and off now that she realizes what is going on. 45:06.866 --> 45:07.686 [UNKNOWN]: She's in control. 45:08.207 --> 45:11.430 [UNKNOWN]: So I guess she gets more solid drops. 45:11.890 --> 45:32.697 [UNKNOWN]: But then we see as it gets close to the ground, she phases again because she phases through an overhang of a building and then through the street dropping into the subway area of Tokyo, which I think is where they are, but become solid enough to land on the subway platform. 45:32.997 --> 45:34.678 [UNKNOWN]: So she's very much 45:35.598 --> 46:01.048 [UNKNOWN]: controlling her phasiness and of course anybody in the podcast can't see but I'm moving my hands and kind of an on and off kind of aspect like she's so she the face was on and then she lost it and the face was off and she fell and then turned it back on to hover saw the helicopter turned the phasiness back off to drop some but maybe you know just a little bit and then then she turns the phasiness on as she's getting down to go through the building and 46:02.288 --> 46:08.570 [UNKNOWN]: and then she turns the phasiness off and becomes solid and kind of alights on and that's the way it looks. 46:08.630 --> 46:12.551 [UNKNOWN]: It's a very gentle lighting onto the platform where she's solid again. 46:13.051 --> 46:20.974 [UNKNOWN]: And she's she's got enough control over it that she somehow manages to leave the ninja outfit right. 46:21.754 --> 46:29.900 [UNKNOWN]: in the gray, you know, half in and half out of the like she turns off the phasiness to all over outside clothes. 46:30.360 --> 46:38.586 [UNKNOWN]: And so the outer outer layer becomes solid gets trapped in the roof of the subway as she faces through. 46:39.007 --> 46:44.030 [UNKNOWN]: And so when she touches down, she's in her more normal outfit still with this long S scarf. 46:44.090 --> 46:46.712 [UNKNOWN]: And she already left one scarf up here with her ninja outfit. 46:50.415 --> 47:11.156 [UNKNOWN]: too many scarves kitty she is too many yeah really she goes to the bathroom and puts on some makeup to kind of the eighties nineties new wave kind of makeup thing um it's it's actually it's part of her shadow cat yeah persona she always wears like a 47:11.937 --> 47:39.428 [UNKNOWN]: like you would a mask only it's makeup that she's put around her eyes almost like the green lantern just across the eyes kind of mask I can't I can't necessarily think of who in the Marvel universe does that green green arrow during the Mike Grell days his his were like that it wasn't one it wasn't like one big domino mask there was there two separate bits one on each eye well I want to see kind of what it looks like some kind of makeup also rather than like I'm probably did so 47:40.008 --> 47:49.013 [UNKNOWN]: So she does that disguises, I guess, herself from being Kitty pride, in case somebody is looking for Kitty pride. 47:49.033 --> 47:50.834 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, she was the ninja, right? 47:50.874 --> 47:51.534 [UNKNOWN]: She ditched it. 47:52.215 --> 47:58.118 [UNKNOWN]: And now she is an unkitty priding herself because she ditched the ninja stuff. 47:58.138 --> 47:59.418 [UNKNOWN]: So she puts on some makeup. 48:00.059 --> 48:07.663 [UNKNOWN]: And I guess, I don't know, kind of like in one movie I saw where people had a hard time with, uh, 48:08.183 --> 48:15.024 [UNKNOWN]: facial recognition cameras working on them because they had tats on their face and it really threw through that off. 48:15.344 --> 48:16.605 [UNKNOWN]: So maybe this is what she's doing. 48:16.985 --> 48:26.046 [UNKNOWN]: People visually will have a hard time remembering her from being a person or this thing that had this blue eye makeup on and that's yeah. 48:26.606 --> 48:28.267 [UNKNOWN]: So she does that gets on a train. 48:29.207 --> 48:32.967 [UNKNOWN]: We get a really cool ad for Marvel star comics in the issue, 48:36.888 --> 48:42.131 [UNKNOWN]: Back at this time in the Middle 80s, it was Marvel's attempt to truly make kids books. 48:42.531 --> 48:42.711 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 48:42.951 --> 48:53.316 [UNKNOWN]: They had a whole line of most of more licensed

characters that they licensed children's characters from outside and did comic books form. 48:53.536 --> 48:57.078 [UNKNOWN]: E-Walks, you mentioned E-Walks earlier, E-Walks was a book that they had. 48:58.018 --> 49:02.321 [UNKNOWN]: C3PO and R2D2 was a book they had, but yeah, Star Comics, 49:03.421 --> 49:08.164 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we'll see the ad here a bit got him into trouble with, um, what was his name? 49:08.785 --> 49:09.545 [UNKNOWN]: Royal Roy. 49:10.186 --> 49:12.007 [UNKNOWN]: They got in trouble with Royal Roy. 49:12.447 --> 49:12.827 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah. 49:13.088 --> 49:13.928 [UNKNOWN]: When they produce that book. 49:13.948 --> 49:15.729 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because it was so much like Richie Rich. 49:15.869 --> 49:18.451 [UNKNOWN]: They, uh, is my video moving for you? 49:18.491 --> 49:20.513 [UNKNOWN]: Because I'm, no, it's not frozen. 49:20.773 --> 49:21.453 [UNKNOWN]: It is frozen. 49:21.593 --> 49:23.134 [UNKNOWN]: But your audio is coming through just fine. 49:23.174 --> 49:23.495 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 49:23.515 --> 49:23.595 [UNKNOWN]: Wow. 49:23.615 --> 49:24.795 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to worry about it then. 49:25.016 --> 49:25.196 [UNKNOWN]: So. 49:25.993 --> 49:50.687 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, so now let's see, Kitty is in the subway going, I don't think she says really, perhaps going to wherever she's hanging out because she was hanging at with Wolverine at his former betrothes castle, Marico, Bill says that it's for us as a present to you. 49:51.247 --> 49:58.411 [UNKNOWN]: So, but she wanted to get away from Wolverine because she had to find herself after what Ogon did. 49:59.111 --> 50:05.514 [UNKNOWN]: And so she's living, I don't know, she maybe she's living in a hotel room, her and her dad set up when they first came. 50:05.534 --> 50:06.995 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know, but she's going somewhere. 50:07.575 --> 50:10.759 [UNKNOWN]: And this is kind of a, what is this one page? 50:10.819 --> 50:16.446 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, kind of a one page replay of Kitty. 50:17.086 --> 50:19.649 [UNKNOWN]: Where Kitty was and where Kitty is now. 50:20.470 --> 50:20.711 [UNKNOWN]: And a, 50:22.713 --> 50:48.736 [UNKNOWN]: kind of a real quick refresher of the story too actually this mini series um the first four issues up until now with the she breeze on the window and draws a picture of her shadow cat persona which is where she is um the previous panels which I like because it's a quasi take on the nine panel grid and I've become a big fan of the nine panel grid but um 50:49.416 --> 50:56.619 [UNKNOWN]: Nothing, nothing in my mind overly poignant if you have read all of the issues up until the story. 50:57.800 --> 51:03.522 [UNKNOWN]: Certainly nothing poignant if you know the history of Shadowcat and Wolverine before the miniseries. 51:03.602 --> 51:10.265 [UNKNOWN]: So that is mainly for newer people, probably particularly for people that are just reading this miniseries. 51:10.325 --> 51:14.386 [UNKNOWN]: It's kind of a summation of everything

up to this point, both 51:18.527 --> 51:29.355 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and maybe it's on the next page where I don't see it here because she does mention when she's deciding she's going to become shadow cat. 51:29.415 --> 51:35.420 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, there it is second to the last panel suits me better than aerial or sprite. 51:36.460 --> 51:47.488 [UNKNOWN]: I, at the, at the time that this came out didn't realize that she had been called, I didn't, that didn't dawn on me that those were other superhero personas for her before. 51:47.528 --> 52:01.498 [UNKNOWN]: So to me, this, this mini series, I assumed, was like almost like her origin, you know, like she was a member of the X-Men, but she was just kitty pride and she just tagged along with 52:06.081 --> 52:06.581 [UNKNOWN]: Um, okay. 52:06.761 --> 52:11.363 [UNKNOWN]: So we go back to OSSEN Myoku. 52:11.523 --> 52:13.504 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I've butcher that and I apologize. 52:13.544 --> 52:27.290 [UNKNOWN]: I'm basically it's it's Mariko's ancestral fortress that the woman That he knows in Japan and he is staying at her family's her family's house Basically on on family property. 52:27.730 --> 52:29.310 [UNKNOWN]: Clang Yushida. 52:29.330 --> 52:30.011 [UNKNOWN]: We see a reference. 52:30.131 --> 52:32.772 [UNKNOWN]: Although she doesn't necessarily play a big part 52:33.632 --> 52:47.377 [UNKNOWN]: instead a girlfriend, shall we say and using that term loosely, of Wolverine, as far as female, plays more of a part in the story than Marco Yoshida does, which is where they're staying. 52:47.457 --> 52:58.340 [UNKNOWN]: And basically, as Wolverine's connection to anything he doesn't Tokyo, he probably gets information from Marco's people, you know, if he needs intel or what have you. 52:58.440 --> 52:59.401 [UNKNOWN]: And whereas 53:03.642 --> 53:20.266 [UNKNOWN]: Girlfriend is even a too strong award for their relationship, but she is there with him and she is it almost seems to me that she is Wolverine's in to his Yang as far as responsibility. 53:20.906 --> 53:23.267 [UNKNOWN]: What he needs to do and why he needs to do it. 53:23.967 --> 53:28.528 [UNKNOWN]: Wolverine is very specific in his thinking about issues like that and 53:31.749 --> 53:34.571 [UNKNOWN]: not specific about how she thinks of things like that. 53:34.651 --> 53:56.889 [UNKNOWN]: She's she's a very much of what a fly by night or a care, not a near do well, but a care do well or you know, I mean all of these she's very flippant about how she lives her life and so what she feels is expected of her from herself is very small. 53:56.989 --> 54:00.312 [UNKNOWN]: Basically she truly believes she can do whatever she wants to 54:00.952 --> 54:05.475 [UNKNOWN]: However, whenever Stephen, are you still there or did you go completely? 54:08.337 --> 54:15.662 [UNKNOWN]: Ah, so maybe I'm here by myself, and I guess we will see if Stephen is going to pop that into the live. 54:16.143 --> 54:17.243 [UNKNOWN]: And we'll see what he does. 54:17.323 --> 54:21.326 [UNKNOWN]: I also have a chat here that he can chat to me if he needs to. 54:22.518 --> 54:27.380 [UNKNOWN]: So, I guess I will continue on and see what happens if we have to go back over this. 54:27.400 --> 54:28.661 [UNKNOWN]: That's fine. 54:29.121 --> 54:36.264 [UNKNOWN]: So, some pretty cool scenes are the cleanest sheet of fortresses on top of a mountain. 54:36.844 --> 54:38.125 [UNKNOWN]: Very close to the edge of the mountain. 54:38.165 --> 54:41.587 [UNKNOWN]: So, when you go to look at up, Bill says I'm not alone. 54:41.607 --> 54:42.027 [UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Bill. 54:42.607 --> 54:50.511 [UNKNOWN]: Um, when you look out off of the, uh, out of the building, it's right on the edge of the mountain so you can see, uh, I'm sure the vistas are beautiful. 54:51.111 --> 55:00.455 [UNKNOWN]: It's winter time, so there's snow everywhere, uh, all on the mountain on the, uh, the patio that they're on, uh, the trees that they use as background. 55:00.935 --> 55:03.456 [UNKNOWN]: Wolverine's out here smoking his normal choroute. 55:03.976 --> 55:05.036 [UNKNOWN]: I assume that's what it is. 55:05.076 --> 55:05.596 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know for it. 55:05.656 --> 55:06.677 [UNKNOWN]: It could be just a cigarette. 55:07.097 --> 55:13.939 [UNKNOWN]: But he's talking to Yukio and they're going back and forth about what Wolverine's place is what he should do. 55:14.299 --> 55:22.422 [UNKNOWN]: And the Yukio's place is that sounding bored as to why, you know, why is that what you should do? 55:22.482 --> 55:24.062 [UNKNOWN]: Why do you feel that's what you should do? 55:27.063 --> 55:28.565 [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to back out and come back in. 55:28.585 --> 55:30.687 [UNKNOWN]: Hopefully it won't affect the entire live stream. 55:30.887 --> 55:31.187 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 55:31.227 --> 55:32.048 [UNKNOWN]: Well, we will see that. 55:32.568 --> 55:34.750 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, and he commented here in the main chat. 55:34.791 --> 55:38.294 [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to back out and come back in hopefully it won't affect the entire live stream. 55:38.794 --> 55:44.159 [UNKNOWN]: That is my co-host Steven who is currently experiencing technical troubles of some nature. 55:44.720 --> 55:49.505 [UNKNOWN]: And we will all collectively see if what he is attempting to do truly will work on. 55:50.125 --> 55:54.709 [UNKNOWN]: I do not know with a stream yard how viable things like that are. 55:55.269 --> 56:08.459 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, wait a minute, I see something the window that had the covers and the pages has gone down, but I see the live stream ticker is still counting, so live stream is still recording me. 56:10.560 --> 56:11.621 [UNKNOWN]: Um, look around. 56:11.661 --> 56:12.061 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 56:12.121 --> 56:30.831 [UNKNOWN]: So, um, interrupting Wolverine and Yukio is Kitty's dad, and he comes out rather upset because he feels that Wolverine is not doing enough to find his daughter, which, uh, let's all step back and recall that anything that is going on with his

daughter is because of him. 56:31.411 --> 56:35.532 [UNKNOWN]: So he, he is the cause of the problem he feels. 56:35.572 --> 56:41.713 [UNKNOWN]: Wolverine is not solving to his, his standards, to the way that he would solve the problem. 56:42.233 --> 56:45.314 [UNKNOWN]: Like he even knows at this point how to solve the problem. 56:45.374 --> 56:49.575 [UNKNOWN]: He got into this problem because he doesn't necessarily think clearly. 56:49.655 --> 56:50.135 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, I see. 56:50.595 --> 56:53.776 [UNKNOWN]: Up there is Steven or smiling face popping back in. 56:54.256 --> 56:54.776 [UNKNOWN]: Can you hear me? 56:55.236 --> 56:55.996 [UNKNOWN]: We can hear you. 56:56.056 --> 56:58.037 [UNKNOWN]: So we have audio and video. 56:58.517 --> 56:58.837 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 56:59.017 --> 57:00.038 [UNKNOWN]: I'll write this. 57:00.058 --> 57:02.600 [UNKNOWN]: What I get for trying to use a different webcam. 57:03.060 --> 57:03.780 [UNKNOWN]: Ah, okay. 57:03.880 --> 57:05.741 [UNKNOWN]: So, thank you, Bill. 57:06.562 --> 57:10.284 [UNKNOWN]: Apparently it looks like from what I see everything is working correctly. 57:10.344 --> 57:10.805 [UNKNOWN]: I'm moving. 57:12.245 --> 57:15.988 [UNKNOWN]: I'm assuming you can hear me Steven is moving and he could hear me when we were conversing. 57:16.568 --> 57:20.314 [UNKNOWN]: And now we have our pages back on the display. 57:20.774 --> 57:24.720 [UNKNOWN]: So the return of Steve, blah, blah, blah. 57:25.281 --> 57:31.169 [UNKNOWN]: So for those of you listening to the episode, I don't know what I'm going to do when I edit this together. 57:32.150 --> 57:34.832 [UNKNOWN]: I keep talking so that may have been problematic. 57:34.852 --> 57:39.315 [UNKNOWN]: If you want, we can go back to when you dropped out and you can have that part. 57:39.395 --> 57:42.818 [UNKNOWN]: Well, it's live broadcasting people. 57:42.858 --> 57:44.258 [UNKNOWN]: This is the issue. 57:44.299 --> 57:49.382 [UNKNOWN]: You know, this is why everybody at CBS is getting fired because they can't deal with this. 57:49.562 --> 57:50.162 [UNKNOWN]: No, I'm kidding. 57:50.182 --> 57:51.824 [UNKNOWN]: That is not at all why they're being fired. 57:51.964 --> 57:52.064 [UNKNOWN]: So. 57:52.925 --> 57:53.926 [UNKNOWN]: And there you go. 57:53.986 --> 58:03.276 [UNKNOWN]: So there is a nice big fat date for this episode if anybody is following popular culture You realize understand that CBS thing and I just mentioned it. 58:03.337 --> 58:04.938 [UNKNOWN]: So you can't get rid of that. 58:05.399 --> 58:05.579 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 58:06.080 --> 58:09.283 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, so we are on the next page or two 58:10.524 --> 58:24.330 [UNKNOWN]: So, we're in the midst of this, you know, Wolverine, you need to fix my problem, which is funny because it's like, well, you cause the problem and you're fussing at somebody else because they're not fixing it fast enough or correctly or whatever. 58:30.232 --> 58:51.451 [UNKNOWN]: him about you know who the heck do you think you are bitch in it Wolverine about the fact that he is or is not cleaning up your problem appropriately yet he out of yada Wolverine you know call causes his guard dog down and says it's okay I understand he's concerned I'll go and you know take care of and do what I can do now 58:52.652 --> 59:00.776 [UNKNOWN]: Not, you know, and we realize not necessarily because her dead prompted him, but just because Wolverine feels inclined to Pride affix the problem. 59:00.816 --> 59:05.159 [UNKNOWN]: It's it's his protege in kitty and what are you doing, Kat? 59:05.259 --> 59:05.779 [UNKNOWN]: Sorry, guys. 59:06.079 --> 59:07.800 [UNKNOWN]: My cat is being rammonct. 59:07.820 --> 59:08.921 [UNKNOWN]: She's got a comment from a 59:09.841 --> 59:12.782 [UNKNOWN]: at Jeff 0 2 4 7 5 9 8. 59:13.223 --> 59:14.243 [UNKNOWN]: Hello new to the show. 59:14.723 --> 59:17.224 [UNKNOWN]: Hello Jeff 0 2 4 7 5 9 8. 59:17.384 --> 59:17.745 [UNKNOWN]: Good day. 59:18.245 --> 59:19.705 [UNKNOWN]: Do you mind if we just call you Jeff? 59:19.986 --> 59:20.446 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 59:20.486 --> 59:22.647 [UNKNOWN]: Can we shorten that and sit and use Jeff? 59:23.187 --> 59:25.468 [UNKNOWN]: Um, so now we we cut to now. 59:25.608 --> 59:31.571 [UNKNOWN]: Here we're starting to get a little bit deeper cuts into the Wolverine mythos. 59:32.420 --> 59:33.061 [UNKNOWN]: Big Jeff. 59:33.421 --> 59:33.822 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 59:33.842 --> 59:34.603 [UNKNOWN]: Big Jeff. 59:34.843 --> 59:35.083 [UNKNOWN]: Yes. 59:35.183 --> 59:35.704 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 59:36.164 --> 59:37.486 [UNKNOWN]: Let me write big Jeff down. 59:37.506 --> 59:38.507 [UNKNOWN]: So I try to remember. 59:38.547 --> 59:39.328 [UNKNOWN]: Big Bad Jeff. 59:40.029 --> 59:40.870 [UNKNOWN]: Big Jeff. 59:41.210 --> 59:41.470 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 59:42.011 --> 59:50.341 [UNKNOWN]: This scene, I understand on the backside after having gone through this portion of the story, why this is here. 59:51.041 --> 59:56.687 [UNKNOWN]: I didn't understand the jump cut to this scene with these two particular characters at the time. 59:57.127 --> 01:00:12.102 [UNKNOWN]: But what we see is we have gone from the Yoshida clan stronghold on, I don't know, the outskirts of, maybe Tokyo, maybe another city, because they fly to Tokyo, so that makes me think they're off a way somewhere. 01:00:12.702 --> 01:00:24.251 [UNKNOWN]: Um, to downtown Tokyo, where we see, uh, maybe for the first time in the story, Lady Marico, I'm not sure if we've officially seen the first time. 01:00:24.771 --> 01:00:26.472 [UNKNOWN]: So, this is Lady Marico. 01:00:26.513 --> 01:00:30.115 [UNKNOWN]: This is the, the living namesake of the clan. 01:00:30.696 --> 01:00:33.818 [UNKNOWN]: All of her male, um, will say progenitors. 01:00:35.259 --> 01:00:37.340 [UNKNOWN]: if that's even a proper word, have died. 01:00:37.821 --> 01:00:42.024 [UNKNOWN]: Her dad uncles and it, you know, she is the oldest of the clan. 01:00:42.044 --> 01:00:46.506 [UNKNOWN]: So that means the Billy

Dunlevy, hey guys, big bill. 01:00:46.947 --> 01:00:47.567 [UNKNOWN]: Got big Jeff. 01:00:47.587 --> 01:00:48.168 [UNKNOWN]: Now big bill. 01:00:48.668 --> 01:00:55.873 [UNKNOWN]: That means that all of the clan doings and responsibilities and what have you fall on Mariko. 01:00:56.033 --> 01:00:57.053 [UNKNOWN]: Can I just say real quick? 01:00:57.113 --> 01:00:57.654 [UNKNOWN]: No, yeah, go ahead. 01:00:58.074 --> 01:00:59.075 [UNKNOWN]: We already had a big bill. 01:00:59.115 --> 01:01:01.657 [UNKNOWN]: I forgot that sorry Bill from Long Island. 01:01:01.757 --> 01:01:04.959 [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to feel make you feel like you're not a big bill either. 01:01:05.579 --> 01:01:06.940 [UNKNOWN]: Big bill, big Jeff big Billy. 01:01:07.361 --> 01:01:07.881 [UNKNOWN]: That's all we'll do. 01:01:08.361 --> 01:01:08.742 [UNKNOWN]: Sorry. 01:01:09.002 --> 01:01:09.342 [UNKNOWN]: Sorry. 01:01:09.382 --> 01:01:11.584 [UNKNOWN]: I just just stepped all over the podcast. 01:01:11.904 --> 01:01:14.606 [UNKNOWN]: It would have bothered Stephen for the rest of the recording. 01:01:14.786 --> 01:01:15.486 [UNKNOWN]: So it would have. 01:01:15.586 --> 01:01:18.168 [UNKNOWN]: I would have reached out to Bill from Long Island. 01:01:18.188 --> 01:01:19.269 [UNKNOWN]: I would have reached out to him afterwards. 01:01:19.569 --> 01:01:20.770 [UNKNOWN]: Hey, I'm really sorry. 01:01:20.970 --> 01:01:37.230 [UNKNOWN]: You would have hesitated here and there as that thought popped into your head when you got ready to say something is like no take care of it man get it get it done Jeff asked uh we talk an X man one eighteen actually we are talking issue five of the kitty pride Wolverine miniseries the first one 01:01:37.790 --> 01:01:44.637 [UNKNOWN]: from what was this even 1985, 1980, and there's a lady. 01:01:44.877 --> 01:01:46.158 [UNKNOWN]: Ah, where'd it go? 01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:47.079 [UNKNOWN]: 84, 84. 01:01:47.179 --> 01:01:48.480 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, September of 84. 01:01:48.520 --> 01:01:58.210 [UNKNOWN]: So, this is in approximately the area of X-Men 1, 80s, mid to late 180s. 01:01:58.750 --> 01:01:59.131 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:01:59.431 --> 01:02:02.634 [UNKNOWN]: So that's that's when we're talking as far as the domain X-Men book. 01:02:05.362 --> 01:02:08.183 [UNKNOWN]: The comic book show will return after these messages. 01:02:12.685 --> 01:02:17.947 [UNKNOWN]: Across the DC multiverse, countless worlds exist in parallel. 01:02:18.788 --> 01:02:24.290 [UNKNOWN]: Each, with its own history, its own heroes, its own destiny. 01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:31.532 [UNKNOWN]: I'm DC Dave, and this is Infinite Earths, a guide to the DC multiverse. 01:02:32.274 --> 01:02:36.723 [UNKNOWN]: A travel log and field guide to the worlds beyond the familiar. 01:02:38.177 --> 01:02:49.106 [UNKNOWN]: Each episode, we chart a different earth, exploring its origins, its defining stories, and the cosmic architecture that shaped it. 01:02:49.907 --> 01:02:59.115 [UNKNOWN]: From the

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came down on them for the death and destruction, where they were trying to 01:05:36.948 --> 01:05:37.328 [UNKNOWN]: valid. 01:05:37.468 --> 01:05:39.931 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, they're a valid concerns. 01:05:40.612 --> 01:05:48.440 [UNKNOWN]: I think in real life you end up having to weigh if not what would have happened as opposed to what did happen that we do know of. 01:05:49.742 --> 01:05:54.827 [UNKNOWN]: And so Wolverine felt responsible for a Kiko because he was 01:05:55.748 --> 01:05:57.308 [UNKNOWN]: there when her mom died. 01:05:57.548 --> 01:06:00.309 [UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't necessarily his fault, but he took her in. 01:06:00.949 --> 01:06:10.972 [UNKNOWN]: But of course, he is the adventuring Wolverine Logan from America, you know, so taking on an orphan girl would have been very, very difficult for her as much as for him. 01:06:11.032 --> 01:06:15.273 [UNKNOWN]: So Marco steps up and says, instead, why don't you leave her with me? 01:06:15.993 --> 01:06:19.594 [UNKNOWN]: I don't have necessarily all these other things going on. 01:06:19.614 --> 01:06:21.955 [UNKNOWN]: I don't have a husband that I have to worry about. 01:06:22.015 --> 01:06:23.415 [UNKNOWN]: I don't have children that we have to 01:06:24.255 --> 01:06:26.576 [UNKNOWN]: blend in, you know, I can I can take care of her. 01:06:26.656 --> 01:06:37.102 [UNKNOWN]: So a Kiko stays with and throughout the run of X-Men moving forward from here as well grows up with the Lady Maruko in Maruko's household. 01:06:37.602 --> 01:06:42.685 [UNKNOWN]: Now we will see a Kiko on and off moving forward just like we will Maruko moving forward. 01:06:43.255 --> 01:06:46.136 [UNKNOWN]: all of them typically having the revolver on Wolverine somehow. 01:06:46.356 --> 01:06:54.458 [UNKNOWN]: So he is the contact point between the X-Men and this aspect Tokyo Maruko Akiko of Wolverine's life. 01:06:54.778 --> 01:06:56.299 [UNKNOWN]: So, okay. 01:06:56.319 --> 01:07:02.721 [UNKNOWN]: So that's where we are, where we're looking in and it's not been too too long, I think, at this point since 01:07:03.541 --> 01:07:05.241 [UNKNOWN]: Kiko has gone to live with Marco. 01:07:05.281 --> 01:07:08.982 [UNKNOWN]: I think it's still a new-ish kind of relationship. 01:07:09.422 --> 01:07:16.684 [UNKNOWN]: And you can kind of see that because they're very loving friendly here, not that that's bad. 01:07:16.704 --> 01:07:22.345 [UNKNOWN]: But I just think over time, there would be a normal see that wouldn't necessarily be that affectionate. 01:07:23.045 --> 01:07:24.685 [UNKNOWN]: And that's just, that's a human thing. 01:07:24.725 --> 01:07:28.566 [UNKNOWN]: A lot of people do, you know, that think of husbands and wives. 01:07:32.287 --> 01:07:38.091 [UNKNOWN]: outwardly, but by things that they do without having to say, this is me being affectionate, you know. 01:07:38.611 --> 01:07:46.196 [UNKNOWN]: So this is still the stage in their relationship where you can very much see that the effort is being made, particularly by Mariko towards a Kiko to be affectionate. 01:07:46.677 --> 01:07:47.958 [UNKNOWN]: And so, um, 01:07:48.618 --> 01:08:12.375 [UNKNOWN]: A Kiko wants to do more free childish kind of things, and Marcos telling her, well, not necessarily that I'm not doing those things, but I have these other responsibilities that I have to be sure to take care of, but I also have to maintain this particular image as being the OU-Bun to throw out that word of the Clania Shida, which Marcos now is. 01:08:13.635 --> 01:08:26.860 [UNKNOWN]: Also, I just popped into my mind for those of you that are familiar with the character Silver Samurai from the Wolverine side of things, and actually he made a big appearance in the second Wolverine movie or one of the things. 01:08:39.605 --> 01:08:46.667 [UNKNOWN]: brother is the silver samurai's, I believe his name is Ken Shiro, Kenji, his father. 01:08:46.987 --> 01:08:51.488 [UNKNOWN]: I think is Maruko's dad's father, so that would be like a cousin. 01:08:51.888 --> 01:08:53.608 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, something like that. 01:08:53.888 --> 01:09:01.490 [UNKNOWN]: Although he is not apparently connected enough because he was never considered to be O-yuban like Maruko was. 01:09:01.530 --> 01:09:02.850 [UNKNOWN]: I guess because it's a direct 01:09:03.510 --> 01:09:03.970 [UNKNOWN]: lineage. 01:09:04.050 --> 01:09:05.832 [UNKNOWN]: Her dad was in charge. 01:09:05.932 --> 01:09:07.072 [UNKNOWN]: So she is the next. 01:09:07.633 --> 01:09:13.456 [UNKNOWN]: And then maybe if she doesn't do it, maybe then it would pass laterally over to Ken Shil or something like that. 01:09:13.476 --> 01:09:21.561 [UNKNOWN]: But Silver Samurai, who will start appearing more whenever Maruko does, they're in the same Maruko's uncle, I thought. 01:09:22.021 --> 01:09:22.582 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 01:09:23.022 --> 01:09:23.302 [UNKNOWN]: Jeff. 01:09:23.462 --> 01:09:24.383 [UNKNOWN]: Let me look all looking up. 01:09:24.783 --> 01:09:26.664 [UNKNOWN]: So Silver Samurai is her uncle. 01:09:26.844 --> 01:09:27.304 [UNKNOWN]: So that would 01:09:31.988 --> 01:09:33.470 [UNKNOWN]: But he didn't play a part in this. 01:09:33.530 --> 01:09:41.997 [UNKNOWN]: It's just something that I thought I would throw out to be kind of a touchstone to try to tie some of these things together as people read other stuff. 01:09:42.617 --> 01:09:46.341 [UNKNOWN]: Ultimately, what we're seeing here, what's going to happen is 01:09:47.141 --> 01:09:52.746 [UNKNOWN]: these two characters, Akiko and Marco are being introduced physically. 01:09:52.786 --> 01:10:04.295 [UNKNOWN]: Now I say that because Marco has been introduced conceptually as far as it's her family's home where everybody is kind of stationed and working out of because she and Wolverine have a thing. 01:10:05.088 --> 01:10:10.672 [UNKNOWN]: According to Wikipedia, he is the illegitimate son of Lord Shenzhen. 01:10:11.232 --> 01:10:14.774 [UNKNOWN]: That's her behalf, the half brother of Mariko Kashida.

01:10:14.954 --> 01:10:31.665 [UNKNOWN]: So it's a half brother, and that's also why he would not be considered outright to run things because he's illegitimate than, yeah, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you 01:10:32.405 --> 01:10:38.367 [UNKNOWN]: But Marko and Akiko are being introduced because they're ultimately going to be used for leverage. 01:10:38.947 --> 01:10:41.908 [UNKNOWN]: So we see a little bit of the story between the two of them. 01:10:42.569 --> 01:10:49.411 [UNKNOWN]: We don't, it's not really explained there, and I don't really think too much it's explained throughout the rest of the story. 01:10:49.991 --> 01:10:53.536 [UNKNOWN]: how or why that would be used as leverage against Wolverine. 01:10:53.837 --> 01:11:04.372 [UNKNOWN]: It's implied and if you know the outside of this story background of Wolverine, you absolutely know how and why that leverage would be applied. 01:11:04.853 --> 01:11:16.558 [UNKNOWN]: but I thought it was kind of lacking by the end of the story, the way that those characters are used and if he didn't know, you would certainly be left wondering, well, Wolverine's on a nice guy. 01:11:16.618 --> 01:11:20.519 [UNKNOWN]: So he's gonna care on that level, but it's like, but why would he really care? 01:11:20.599 --> 01:11:22.380 [UNKNOWN]: What difference does this, you know? 01:11:22.840 --> 01:11:27.842 [UNKNOWN]: So, and that explanation of a Kiko and Marco, that's why I did that because, 01:11:28.342 --> 01:11:36.506 [UNKNOWN]: then when you see that pressure is applied, why Wolverine is going to react the way, say the things you know, whatever that he does. 01:11:36.767 --> 01:11:45.231 [UNKNOWN]: So, so here is another instance of what I was saying, narrator tells us later that night aboard a Yashita private biz jet. 01:11:45.291 --> 01:11:50.314 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, they're flying to Tokyo, presumably from the Klan Yashita Stronghold. 01:11:50.374 --> 01:11:52.715 [UNKNOWN]: So obviously, I mean, look at that thing. 01:11:52.775 --> 01:11:54.176 [UNKNOWN]: That's an airliner. 01:11:54.276 --> 01:11:57.578 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's a huge, but so obviously, that's how far away 01:11:58.298 --> 01:12:01.159 [UNKNOWN]: the Yoshida estate is from Tokyo. 01:12:01.219 --> 01:12:03.800 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, far enough that it's worth taking a big ass point. 01:12:04.240 --> 01:12:20.784 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so because one of the previous issues, that was something that you had brought up because, you know, right after she stabbed, Kitty Pride stabs Wolverine, and then they drive him to this, they seem to drive him to the castle, because they arrive at the castle in a car 01:12:22.645 --> 01:12:22.845 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 01:12:23.005 --> 01:12:32.012 [UNKNOWN]: So maybe they just left out the fact that they had to jump on a plane to get to an airfield and then the car that they're taking in that issue is between the air. 01:12:32.032 --> 01:12:45.683 [UNKNOWN]: Because yeah, still that whole thing about how they handle Wolverine's injuries, you're like, is there not a hospital closer that you could really take him to get the help rather than, you know, I don't know, halfway across Japan to what it's like, yeah. 01:12:45.883 --> 01:12:45.963 [UNKNOWN]: So 01:12:52.028 --> 01:12:55.211 [UNKNOWN]: current Japanese paramour whenever he's in. 01:12:55.712 --> 01:12:57.794 [UNKNOWN]: Whatever he's in Tokyo, this is his paramour. 01:12:58.034 --> 01:13:01.337 [UNKNOWN]: When he's not in Tokyo, he's got a different paramour. 01:13:01.357 --> 01:13:03.499 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but it's got a lady at every city. 01:13:03.839 --> 01:13:07.523 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and I don't, I don't say that in a bad thing. 01:13:07.783 --> 01:13:08.023 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 01:13:08.143 --> 01:13:11.105 [UNKNOWN]: Both of these characters understand the nature of that relationship. 01:13:11.125 --> 01:13:15.688 [UNKNOWN]: They're not, it's not, he's not treating her badly like that sounds or anything like that. 01:13:15.829 --> 01:13:20.572 [UNKNOWN]: It's a, you know, it's, it's one of the, um, gotta be careful here. 01:13:20.952 --> 01:13:25.915 [UNKNOWN]: It's one of the, um, aspects of being in Tokyo that he enjoys while he's in Tokyo. 01:13:26.296 --> 01:13:28.357 [UNKNOWN]: And that's Jukeo's companionship. 01:13:28.697 --> 01:13:33.941 [UNKNOWN]: When he's not in Tokyo, Jukeo isn't there, so he's not able to enjoy her companionship. 01:13:33.961 --> 01:13:35.082 [UNKNOWN]: Well, just, you know, so yeah. 01:13:35.722 --> 01:13:41.287 [UNKNOWN]: Uh, but yeah, like you said, a girl in every park, yeah, that's very much how this feels. 01:13:41.748 --> 01:13:43.790 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, um, and Kitty's dad. 01:13:44.190 --> 01:13:47.653 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I guess it wasn't bad enough that he was giving Wolverine grief. 01:13:48.013 --> 01:13:52.377 [UNKNOWN]: Now he wants to tag along and make sure that Wolverine does help his daughter like 01:13:53.038 --> 01:14:07.707 [UNKNOWN]: Wolverine said he would like dad feels that he should or without you know dad should really have been made to stay home because he's not going to help any situation that they find themselves in he's not going to be a benefit to them so and and actually maybe in some ways it's 01:14:08.367 --> 01:14:16.352 [UNKNOWN]: even a situation where it will split Wolverine's attention in my mind as I'm reading this if he is out and about with them because Wolverine will have to look for Kitty. 01:14:16.833 --> 01:14:19.234 [UNKNOWN]: He's going to have to be looking for Ogoon wherever he is. 01:14:19.274 --> 01:14:20.695 [UNKNOWN]: He's going to have to watch out for himself.

01:14:21.256 --> 01:14:24.238 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe watch out for Yukio, but he probably doesn't have to do that to him. 01:14:24.638 --> 01:14:34.985 [UNKNOWN]: And watch out for Kitty's dad who is just dragging around getting in the way, you know, so he should cut bait and left him hurt her dad at hell. 01:14:35.545 --> 01:14:38.946 [UNKNOWN]: And these two pages are, I don't know. 01:14:38.966 --> 01:14:42.787 [UNKNOWN]: I guess you would have to put this under a character development. 01:14:43.267 --> 01:14:44.787 [UNKNOWN]: Big Jeff says, I agree. 01:14:44.867 --> 01:14:46.047 [UNKNOWN]: Dad is a liability. 01:14:46.308 --> 01:14:48.548 [UNKNOWN]: He just 100% is. 01:14:48.708 --> 01:14:52.989 [UNKNOWN]: It's like whatever I watch a movie that had like a, like a, like, like, Jurassic Park, for example. 01:14:53.289 --> 01:14:57.130 [UNKNOWN]: They can't make a Jurassic Park movie without involving kids. 01:14:58.370 --> 01:15:01.611 [UNKNOWN]: And I'm always like, God, just get the kids of school and everything up. 01:15:05.372 --> 01:15:10.113 [UNKNOWN]: Don't, you know, the kids at people, well, they're kids. 01:15:10.173 --> 01:15:13.034 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but they always make the wrong decisions in those movies. 01:15:13.454 --> 01:15:16.255 [UNKNOWN]: It's like the parent, the adult will say, stay here. 01:15:16.935 --> 01:15:17.796 [UNKNOWN]: Do not leave. 01:15:18.196 --> 01:15:21.437 [UNKNOWN]: And then five, five seconds later, they're like, we need to work. 01:15:21.457 --> 01:15:21.917 [UNKNOWN]: Let's go. 01:15:22.197 --> 01:15:24.958 [UNKNOWN]: And of course, at this point in my. 01:15:26.578 --> 01:15:28.481 [UNKNOWN]: movie consumption history. 01:15:29.061 --> 01:15:34.368 [UNKNOWN]: I understand and have to verbally say, well, I understand they're doing that to further the story line. 01:15:34.428 --> 01:15:34.668 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 01:15:34.948 --> 01:15:35.149 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:15:35.169 --> 01:15:37.391 [UNKNOWN]: Because there is no logic to it. 01:15:37.712 --> 01:15:37.952 [UNKNOWN]: Yep. 01:15:38.132 --> 01:15:38.292 [UNKNOWN]: All. 01:15:38.513 --> 01:15:38.773 [UNKNOWN]: None. 01:15:39.334 --> 01:15:45.681 [UNKNOWN]: So the only reason would be, well, because they need kids to get out there and get in trouble to get the hero to rescue. 01:15:46.222 --> 01:15:54.664 [UNKNOWN]: like, okay, because they're being stupid, or worse than stupid, they would only do this one time. 01:15:55.185 --> 01:15:58.205 [UNKNOWN]: And then they would not be around to do it again. 01:15:59.246 --> 01:16:09.188 [UNKNOWN]: But then, of course, they always have to have the kids save them at one point, so they're more than just there to get into trouble than, oh, okay, well, it's a good thing they were there. 01:16:09.348 --> 01:16:11.649 [UNKNOWN]: Just for the story, okay, such a crumudge. 01:16:15.050 --> 01:16:21.691 [UNKNOWN]: Um, so yeah, these next two panels are just, uh, we're, we're getting some insight into Wolverine. 01:16:22.351 -->

01:16:37.074 [UNKNOWN]: Uh, we're getting some insight into Kitty's dad and, um, the, the reversal, perhaps of his feelings or his thoughts about who he wasn't what he needed to do before Kitty found out that he was going bad to now. 01:16:37.854 --> 01:16:39.735 [UNKNOWN]: Well, his daughter's disappeared. 01:16:39.795 --> 01:16:41.535 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe she's under the, uh, control. 01:16:42.155 --> 01:16:42.776 [UNKNOWN]: of a demon. 01:16:43.136 --> 01:16:43.937 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe she's dead. 01:16:44.257 --> 01:16:46.520 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, let me rethink why we're here, right? 01:16:46.760 --> 01:16:46.980 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:16:47.281 --> 01:16:48.262 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 01:16:48.302 --> 01:16:50.564 [UNKNOWN]: Good on your death for having that epiphany. 01:16:50.865 --> 01:16:51.926 [UNKNOWN]: I think is the word for that. 01:16:52.186 --> 01:16:53.067 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:16:53.628 --> 01:17:00.255 [UNKNOWN]: Mainly to me, this is character development for Wolverine, particularly if you are not familiar with Wolverine. 01:17:00.675 --> 01:17:15.910 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know, you have just picked up this mini series and that is, uh, maybe in total your exposure to Wolverine because so far, truly, we don't know a whole lot about Wolverine the character just based on this mini series. 01:17:16.651 --> 01:17:23.578 [UNKNOWN]: Seeing him do some things, we've seen him have a need to try to take up for Kitty, get his butt kicked by her, which is 01:17:23.978 --> 01:17:32.401 [UNKNOWN]: is is something if you just read this many series if you know anything about their history that is a profound occurrence that she was able to do that. 01:17:32.961 --> 01:17:45.265 [UNKNOWN]: So yeah a lot of this said we have several panels of him and Yukio further pushing the character development of Wolverine because 01:17:46.625 --> 01:18:01.837 [UNKNOWN]: relationship with Yukio is at a certain point before this story, and then after this story, and Yukio though, she plays such a profound part in the overall story of the X-Men. 01:18:02.297 --> 01:18:08.322 [UNKNOWN]: Far beyond interacting with Wolverine, she interacts with another one of the characters of the 01:18:13.966 --> 01:18:23.400 [UNKNOWN]: to a large extent still evident now in the way that character acts, not necessarily the way she appears, but the way that character acts, so which storm. 01:18:23.960 --> 01:18:29.568 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, they use Yukio in just a very profound way with that character. 01:18:30.269 --> 01:18:39.394 [UNKNOWN]: and it's not just a story, the character after that point completely changed moving forward to now from what she had been up until that point. 01:18:39.514 --> 01:18:46.578 [UNKNOWN]: So, um, Yukio, though she has spot appearances, is a very, very important character overall in the mythos of the X-Men. 01:18:47.098 --> 01:18:52.121 [UNKNOWN]: A lot of weight for very little, uh, visible interaction that we ever see. 01:18:52.141 --> 01:18:53.062 [UNKNOWN]: There are other

characters. 01:18:53.602 --> 01:19:11.893 [UNKNOWN]: that every six months you see pop up an experiment of course like you know I don't know Magneto let's say for instance you know now he has changed so much that he is actually once again a member of the x-men so that's different from yuccio who has you know that would be like her 01:19:12.693 --> 01:19:18.720 [UNKNOWN]: Um, popping in every five to six months and let's say killing a character completely removing from the board. 01:19:19.241 --> 01:19:19.461 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 01:19:19.521 --> 01:19:24.346 [UNKNOWN]: You know, that's, but instead she changes the way the characters is delivered. 01:19:24.366 --> 01:19:24.487 [UNKNOWN]: But. 01:19:25.071 --> 01:19:36.325 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, so now we go to the Yoshida residents in Tokyo, which I guess is where Kitty was headed when she got done with her ghost ninja thing. 01:19:36.805 --> 01:19:42.171 [UNKNOWN]: So she's going, I would, I know, I'm sorry, this is Ogum, gaps. 01:19:42.672 --> 01:20:02.163 [UNKNOWN]: He is going, Ogun is going, because he wants to involve Marco in his dealings with Kityan Wolverine, because if he can use Marco, he can leverage Wolverine to bring him Kity, which is ultimately what he wants. 01:20:02.203 --> 01:20:06.465 [UNKNOWN]: He wants Kity to be his protege forever moving forward. 01:20:06.905 --> 01:20:07.906 [UNKNOWN]: Kity has said no. 01:20:08.466 --> 01:20:32.492 [UNKNOWN]: so ogoon realizes well i need something to force her hand because if i can get a hold of her i will be able to convince her or change her or what have you just like you did initially so he doesn't have the leverage he's already confronted kitty wants and she said yeah no but by so what else can i do so i'll get Wolverine who i also have a history with uh according to Wolverine a very deep history yeah 01:20:33.092 --> 01:20:39.414 [UNKNOWN]: Um, and I'll get Wolverine, and because I involve Wolverine, Kitty will come along either Wolverine won't ask her to help. 01:20:39.735 --> 01:20:47.157 [UNKNOWN]: That's not the way Wolverine works, but they're bonded in in such that If something is going on with Wolverine, Kitty will know when she will try to help automatically. 01:20:47.377 --> 01:20:53.680 [UNKNOWN]: So Ogoon is on that path and that path starts with putting pressure on Lady Marcos. 01:20:53.740 --> 01:21:01.783 [UNKNOWN]: So he goes to her Tokyo residence To whatever threatened her kidnapped her whatever he's ultimately gonna do, but he finds out that 01:21:02.929 --> 01:21:18.281 [UNKNOWN]: In the place of Lady Marco is Kitty, so apparently Kitty assumed this as well that this is where Ogoom would end up at some point, and so she has arranged to take Marcos place in the residence. 01:21:18.781 --> 01:21:36.568 [UNKNOWN]: is really kind of a funny scene when you think about it because you know Ogun sneaks in there it you know he sees who he assumes is Lady Mariko laying in bed and he basically he's chopping her his yeah he's entertaining her yeah he's trying to kill her yeah so he's making the 01:21:37.948 --> 01:21:43.212 [UNKNOWN]: you know, as he hits, do in the swipe, you know, is whatever they would call that kind of yell. 01:21:44.773 --> 01:21:49.817 [UNKNOWN]: And then, but as soon as she jumps up as Kitty, the high-yah, turns into a scream. 01:21:50.017 --> 01:21:53.280 [UNKNOWN]: Ah, so the fact that O-goon just... 01:21:53.760 --> 01:22:17.145 [UNKNOWN]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 01:22:18.225 --> 01:22:44.451 [UNKNOWN]: that's a good scene surprise sucker so now uh we start a running battle very little between ogoon and kitty pride that we now you know even even the way she's dressed and looks and everything you might not realize that that's her but the fact that the sword strike did not kill her because she was phasing that that gives away definitely that it's kitty even though 01:22:47.192 --> 01:22:48.132 [UNKNOWN]: really anywhere else. 01:22:48.152 --> 01:22:55.075 [UNKNOWN]: There's a couple panels where you can kind of see the eye shading where she did the shadow cat eye. 01:22:55.456 --> 01:23:01.198 [UNKNOWN]: But that's kind of if he, I mean, if you're not really paying a really, really close attention, you're not, you're going to miss that too. 01:23:01.698 --> 01:23:05.220 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it helps that, I mean, if they, she's narrating it. 01:23:05.540 --> 01:23:07.300 [UNKNOWN]: So yes, she's POV. 01:23:07.721 --> 01:23:13.163 [UNKNOWN]: If we didn't have those narration boxes, we might not know who that is and tell the wig falls off. 01:23:13.663 --> 01:23:39.268 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and then we see she is looking much more like we remember Kitty with the short hair, the leggings and boots you see in the scene where she's running at Ogon with the sword and starting to look more like the shadow cap persona that she took on rather than the sleeping robe marico, which I don't know many people that sleep in bed with a robe on, which is kind of interesting but okay. 01:23:39.868 --> 01:23:54.493 [UNKNOWN]: um, running battle between the two, it's not really going much anywhere because they're, they're so evenly matched because everything pretty much at this point that Kitty knows as far as the fighting technique that she's employing. 01:23:55.053 --> 01:23:56.173 [UNKNOWN]: Ogun taught her. 01:23:56.614 --> 01:24:03.216 [UNKNOWN]: So it's a case of where I taught you everything you know, but I did not teach you everything I know. 01:24:03.536 --> 01:24:09.237 [UNKNOWN]: So ultimately he will be able to get the upper hand even slight

though it may be. 01:24:10.058 --> 01:24:16.780 [UNKNOWN]: We see an image here where she's attacking with a sword and this may be the sword I guess that he brought in. 01:24:17.360 --> 01:24:23.966 [UNKNOWN]: because maybe in all of this kerf, yeah, right here, the third panel where it starts, he drops the sword. 01:24:24.326 --> 01:24:25.867 [UNKNOWN]: So in the fight, she picks it up. 01:24:25.907 --> 01:24:31.773 [UNKNOWN]: She's going to attack him with it, but he also besides carrying the dual swords. 01:24:31.793 --> 01:24:35.476 [UNKNOWN]: Apparently he had a couple of side tucked into his outfit somewhere as well. 01:24:36.136 --> 01:24:38.579 [UNKNOWN]: And he brandishes the side, 01:24:39.579 --> 01:24:46.021 [UNKNOWN]: in my understanding of the weaponry in exactly the methodology that it is supposed to be used. 01:24:46.081 --> 01:24:54.464 [UNKNOWN]: That's what those wing spurs are for is to capture the blade of your opponent and now sharing the blade like this. 01:24:54.564 --> 01:25:01.947 [UNKNOWN]: I find kind of questionable because Japanese authentically made katanas are supposed to be a little bit more sturdy than that I thought. 01:25:02.127 --> 01:25:02.287 [UNKNOWN]: But 01:25:02.807 --> 01:25:29.890 [UNKNOWN]: but that's what he does it at least I was happy to see that the sigh is used in a way that that I have always read is intended rather than just the electra kind of stabby stabby kind of thing which you could do with knives or whatever why a sigh the the spurs the antlers I don't know the official term of it on either side are intended to catch the blade in defense and then of course that gives you leverage over the blade to this armor or what have you. 01:25:30.370 --> 01:25:32.732 [UNKNOWN]: So he does disarm her, he shatters the sword. 01:25:33.772 --> 01:25:49.602 [UNKNOWN]: She is now to disadvantage, so she continues to run away defensively, not, not, or I mean offensively, not necessarily just to run away to get away, but to run away to change the, the, the tomber of the fight, what they're doing. 01:25:50.262 --> 01:25:56.046 [UNKNOWN]: The tomberah, did you say the tomberah, the tomberah, that's a, that's a, that's a musical for you. 01:25:56.066 --> 01:25:58.948 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I, I feel like the last time I heard somebody say that, that's why, 01:25:59.488 --> 01:26:01.650 [UNKNOWN]: It's the tommor of the music and I don't know. 01:26:01.830 --> 01:26:11.580 [UNKNOWN]: I might not be able to use it that way really, but I was thinking that Just the way that the fight feels that you know, yeah, I'm Thomas sounds right. 01:26:12.060 --> 01:26:16.725 [UNKNOWN]: She faces through the wall and of course Oh, go and has to run around the wall to an actual door 01:26:17.105 --> 01:26:21.606 [UNKNOWN]: So it's time to funny, it's like, she takes a shortcut and he has to go the long way around to get into the hall. 01:26:22.227 --> 01:26:26.648 [UNKNOWN]: Um, I don't know that it was intended humorously, but I thought it was kind of funny. 01:26:26.668 --> 01:26:29.469 [UNKNOWN]: She's just like, for he's like, oh, okay, gotta go around. 01:26:29.489 --> 01:26:29.589 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:26:30.209 --> 01:26:31.230 [UNKNOWN]: He's probably like, well, shit. 01:26:31.590 --> 01:26:31.770 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:26:32.790 --> 01:26:33.931 [UNKNOWN]: looking for the door. 01:26:33.971 --> 01:26:34.671 [UNKNOWN]: Where's the door? 01:26:34.851 --> 01:26:35.811 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:26:36.052 --> 01:26:37.072 [UNKNOWN]: So she's waiting for him. 01:26:37.352 --> 01:26:42.495 [UNKNOWN]: Now, okay, I thought she lost the robe earlier, but it's just flapping here when she's running at him. 01:26:42.835 --> 01:26:47.797 [UNKNOWN]: It was her wig that I guess I thought was the robe, but she still has the robe on. 01:26:48.337 --> 01:26:54.200 [UNKNOWN]: He runs out her into the hallway and she's waiting for him and this robes, if you will. 01:26:54.800 --> 01:26:57.742 [UNKNOWN]: And throws the robe on him kind of like you would a neck or a 01:27:00.923 --> 01:27:15.737 [UNKNOWN]: Um, exposing these huge ass, uh, uh, uh, yeah, obviously, the word is, is escaping the scarf that she has had on, on and off to, you know, all he's got to do is just reach out there and grab one of those and just, yeah. 01:27:16.257 --> 01:27:18.558 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, it looks almost like she could trip over them. 01:27:18.858 --> 01:27:20.479 [UNKNOWN]: Yes, you know, it really does. 01:27:20.519 --> 01:27:20.759 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:27:21.340 --> 01:27:23.701 [UNKNOWN]: Um, so she kind of has the upper hand. 01:27:23.881 --> 01:27:25.262 [UNKNOWN]: She covers him. 01:27:25.302 --> 01:27:28.423 [UNKNOWN]: So he can't see his his movement is restricted. 01:27:28.503 --> 01:27:30.805 [UNKNOWN]: She starts hitting him, slugging him. 01:27:30.985 --> 01:27:37.188 [UNKNOWN]: And so he pulls out the, the ninja flash bang trick. 01:27:37.268 --> 01:27:37.908 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 01:27:38.488 --> 01:27:40.109 [UNKNOWN]: Black powder in an egg shell. 01:27:40.229 --> 01:27:44.371 [UNKNOWN]: I've heard it described as is what it actually was back in antiquity. 01:27:44.652 --> 01:27:44.992 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 01:27:45.472 --> 01:27:54.034 [UNKNOWN]: It's more like a Ninja Flashbang grenade is what it is, and by the time that her eyes clear enough for her to see, the robe is there, but Ogun is not. 01:27:54.494 --> 01:27:58.295 [UNKNOWN]: She has no idea where he's gone, she has no idea at this point what to expect. 01:27:58.695 --> 01:28:04.077 [UNKNOWN]: So now, she is very much Kitty, she is very much on the defensive, she doesn't know. 01:28:04.577 --> 01:28:08.621 [UNKNOWN]: And her narration when she punches them, she throws the clothes, the robe over and punches him. 01:28:09.101 --> 01:28:12.384 [UNKNOWN]: He's apparently wearing body armor, so she kind of messes up her hand. 01:28:12.904 --> 01:28:18.189 [UNKNOWN]: Probably like the chain male kind of stuff that kept in America wears.

01:28:18.569 --> 01:28:18.749 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:28:19.010 --> 01:28:19.530 [UNKNOWN]: Kind of like that. 01:28:19.870 --> 01:28:24.775 [UNKNOWN]: And you can see over here in his hand, he's already pulled the little bomb thing grenade thing, whatever. 01:28:25.115 --> 01:28:26.816 [UNKNOWN]: And he's holding it, getting ready to throw it down. 01:28:26.916 --> 01:28:29.158 [UNKNOWN]: So he's he's already preparing for that. 01:28:29.198 --> 01:28:29.539 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:28:32.501 --> 01:28:44.228 [UNKNOWN]: Um, so now is a situation where they're still fighting, Ogun is kind of able to relax because Kitty was on the offensive because he has disappeared. 01:28:44.828 --> 01:28:48.931 [UNKNOWN]: He may or may not know where Kitty is, but he's not too worried about that. 01:28:49.531 --> 01:28:58.556 [UNKNOWN]: She certainly does not know where Ogun is and is concerned about that because she wants to find him to, uh, I would presume to kill him, probably is what she's after. 01:29:01.658 --> 01:29:14.905 [UNKNOWN]: but yet he is speaking and she can hear him like the whole apartment or whatever that she's in is bugged as speakers and he's talking like you know on a microphone that kind of thing. 01:29:15.505 --> 01:29:23.029 [UNKNOWN]: I would suspect more along the lines of the connection of them almost is on such a spiritual level that he's talking in her head. 01:29:23.049 --> 01:29:27.071 [UNKNOWN]: Now is what it is although she says his voice seems to be coming 01:29:28.392 --> 01:29:32.875 [UNKNOWN]: Now, maybe he's doing this because he's a magician, demon kind of thing. 01:29:33.435 --> 01:29:37.917 [UNKNOWN]: He certainly did not have time to wire this apartment to be able to do it physically. 01:29:38.118 --> 01:29:39.598 [UNKNOWN]: So that is not the case. 01:29:39.819 --> 01:29:47.943 [UNKNOWN]: So either he is, they are so much bonded that he is in essence speaking to her soul to soul and she can hear him that way. 01:29:48.623 --> 01:29:54.467 [UNKNOWN]: Or he is doing some sort of magic key thing that he is just talking and projecting it all over the whole place. 01:29:55.067 --> 01:29:59.749 [UNKNOWN]: Um, I don't think anything really gives away which one in this story. 01:29:59.769 --> 01:30:00.769 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think so. 01:30:01.249 --> 01:30:10.773 [UNKNOWN]: Now in a subsequent story in the, uh, not part two, but in the next chapter of Kitty Pride Wolverine Ogoon, we find out then. 01:30:11.533 --> 01:30:17.379 [UNKNOWN]: I think Wolverine understands this now, but we find out then that he truly is a demon. 01:30:18.039 --> 01:30:25.166 [UNKNOWN]: And that is how he is able to do the unexplained things that he's able to do because it's supernatural. 01:30:25.506 --> 01:30:32.753 [UNKNOWN]: But here, everything is done in this story to make him seem human right up to the edge of what he can do. 01:30:32.773 --> 01:30:36.297 [UNKNOWN]: You know, there's never anything that makes it obvious that it's like, no, it's got

to be supernatural. 01:30:37.037 --> 01:30:42.599 [UNKNOWN]: Everything that Ogun does is kind of explained in a flesh and blood kind of way for this many series. 01:30:42.799 --> 01:30:45.860 [UNKNOWN]: Now the next one they go on over the line to the supernatural. 01:30:47.120 --> 01:30:49.981 [UNKNOWN]: But he's he's talking to her trying to unnerve Kitty. 01:30:50.541 --> 01:30:50.821 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 01:30:51.321 --> 01:30:54.562 [UNKNOWN]: Kitty is thinking trying to keep herself centered. 01:30:55.082 --> 01:30:56.423 [UNKNOWN]: As she is looking around. 01:30:58.303 --> 01:31:09.985 [UNKNOWN]: try and maybe trying to track his voice or something I don't know if he's coming from everywhere that then there's no trail to follow and trying to find where the voice is coming from because it is just in every room. 01:31:10.125 --> 01:31:24.408 [UNKNOWN]: So it's, you know, so finally she starts to get pretty frustrated and in getting frustrated, Ogun is finally able to get the drop on her using a bow staff, which I assume that he found in the apartment because suddenly in his outfit he can carry 01:31:26.328 --> 01:31:31.451 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know that he could carry a bowstaff and hide it, and you know, that's, I think that's a bit much. 01:31:31.912 --> 01:31:32.132 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:31:32.492 --> 01:31:41.137 [UNKNOWN]: And he tells her beforehand that if she will not serve him, then Wolverine's foster daughter, Akiko will take her place. 01:31:41.558 --> 01:31:41.958 [UNKNOWN]: There you go. 01:31:42.038 --> 01:31:49.403 [UNKNOWN]: Further leverage of the Marco Akiko relationship, which, yeah, Wolverine absolutely would not dig that because he, 01:31:50.363 --> 01:32:03.090 [UNKNOWN]: From the time that he first ran into Akiko, even up to now he's got a very, very soft spot from her, and several bad guys over the years have used her to get to him, so it continues up until today. 01:32:03.843 --> 01:32:04.343 [UNKNOWN]: Um, okay. 01:32:04.363 --> 01:32:09.367 [UNKNOWN]: So using this Bostath apparently kitty and all of her trait sings around state solid. 01:32:09.887 --> 01:32:11.148 [UNKNOWN]: He manages to trip her. 01:32:11.788 --> 01:32:16.471 [UNKNOWN]: Uh, we see the continuation now of this running fight between the two of them. 01:32:17.092 --> 01:32:22.015 [UNKNOWN]: Uh, he armed with the Bostath and she armed with nothing but her ability. 01:32:22.615 --> 01:32:25.457 [UNKNOWN]: Which is Ogun given for the most part now. 01:32:25.497 --> 01:32:29.360 [UNKNOWN]: She has learned some things being an X man and learn some things from Wolverine. 01:32:29.840 --> 01:32:34.045 [UNKNOWN]: But the majority of her training at this point, particularly making her shadow cat was from Ogon. 01:32:34.565 --> 01:32:41.913 [UNKNOWN]: And the narration here tells us that, uh, because he, that first panel here, he's jabs at her with the bow staff. 01:32:41.933 --> 01:32:42.814 [UNKNOWN]: She rolls out of the way. 01:32:43.314 --> 01:32:44.856 [UNKNOWN]: He says, splendid. 01:32:44.956 --> 01:32:50.062 [UNKNOWN]: I could not have executed that, I could not have executed that, evasion better myself. 01:32:50.602 --> 01:33:00.608 [UNKNOWN]: And so her narration is basically saying, most of my ninja combat abilities came from the psychic template of myself, of himself, ogoon imposed on me. 01:33:01.128 --> 01:33:02.549 [UNKNOWN]: They're pretty much gone now. 01:33:03.150 --> 01:33:07.332 [UNKNOWN]: So any ninja, she's, she's losing her ninjas. 01:33:07.552 --> 01:33:08.453 [UNKNOWN]: They're ninja skills. 01:33:08.753 --> 01:33:09.013 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:33:09.053 --> 01:33:11.394 [UNKNOWN]: So I guess you could say the ninja go. 01:33:11.935 --> 01:33:12.095 [UNKNOWN]: Right. 01:33:12.855 --> 01:33:16.097 [UNKNOWN]: Uh, she did not go ninja, go ninja, go, oh, okay. 01:33:16.577 --> 01:33:17.838 [UNKNOWN]: Sorry, uh, Patrick. 01:33:18.658 --> 01:33:21.099 [UNKNOWN]: Um, then, oh, yeah, not just going away. 01:33:21.399 --> 01:33:21.559 [UNKNOWN]: Yes. 01:33:24.341 --> 01:33:27.122 [UNKNOWN]: The comic book show will return after these messages. 01:33:33.597 --> 01:33:40.402 [UNKNOWN]: and a rogue legacy beginning in 1941 that spans time, space, and the whole of the multiverse. 01:33:41.042 --> 01:33:53.891 [UNKNOWN]: Journey along with the Knights of the Stars, Ted, David, and Jack, they along with Will Payton, Michael Thomas, Prince Gavin, Tom Color, and Courtney Whittmore. 01:33:56.272 --> 01:34:00.115 [UNKNOWN]: They take the mantle of star man and continue his legacy. 01:34:01.427 --> 01:34:17.681 [UNKNOWN]: I invite you to listen as I journey through these adventures of all these heroes and the rest of the starman family here on Opel City Confidential a starman podcast coming February 2023. 01:34:30.166 --> 01:34:32.328 [UNKNOWN]: Do you love podcasting but hate editing? 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and her ability to fight from here, 01:37:41.915 --> 01:37:46.340 [UNKNOWN]: carries forward in the story, so I mean in her her story. 01:37:46.840 --> 01:37:54.067 [UNKNOWN]: So if she uses this ability, then how she is able to maintain this persona moving forward without that fighting ability. 01:37:55.008 --> 01:37:58.392 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know because she always seems to have that fighting ability, you know, so it's like, well, 01:37:58.892 --> 01:38:16.795 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, um, in the midst of everything she hears a scream and she realizes, oh no, he has finally gotten to Marco and a Kiko who are here, but they were just somewhere else while she was hiding in Marco's bed, because they figured that would be the first place that Ogoom would look for Marco would be in the bed. 01:38:17.275 --> 01:38:43.442 [UNKNOWN]: so she goes to where she knows now ogoon doesn't know necessarily at this point yet where marco and a kiko are hiding a kiki does kiki here's the screen it's marco oh no i got to go see what's wrong you know ogoon must have found her kiko phases through however many floors however many bill of rooms we see whatever phases into the room where marco and a kiko are and then they're in their alone 01:38:44.042 --> 01:39:00.412 [UNKNOWN]: and she was like oh shit I was decoyed and then through the window jumps ogoon having tracked kitty to see where she went and he jumps in and unleash unleashes myriad throwing stars just like you woulda 01:39:01.072 --> 01:39:19.665 [UNKNOWN]: machine gun, just throws them everywhere, trying to hit somebody, and Kitty is helping Marco and Kiko hide behind some furniture, but Kitty gets hit by one of the throwing stars, and I immediately knew what this meant. 01:39:19.825 --> 01:39:23.268 [UNKNOWN]: I've seen too many things like this, and so I knew immediately what had happened. 01:39:23.868 --> 01:39:28.092 [UNKNOWN]: Now, I'm waiting for the narration to tell me that it has happened. 01:39:28.553 --> 01:39:44.948 [UNKNOWN]: So, she helps Marcona Kiko phase through into another room where they're separated enough that she tells the two females to go either running hide somewhere or get out of the building or what just go as far away and as fast as you can. 01:39:45.689 --> 01:39:48.231 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, so she's doing that old thing. 01:39:48.711 --> 01:39:49.372 [UNKNOWN]: You run. 01:39:49.392 --> 01:39:50.772 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, go hide. 01:39:50.813 --> 01:39:52.674 [UNKNOWN]: I'll hold them off as long as I can. 01:39:52.694 --> 01:39:55.275 [UNKNOWN]: And then, you know, so that's what Kitty's doing. 01:39:55.295 --> 01:39:56.716 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe even in that voice, I don't know. 01:39:57.297 --> 01:39:57.617 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe. 01:39:58.197 --> 01:40:00.859 [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, I mean, she could really be feeling bad. 01:40:01.059 --> 01:40:01.380 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know. 01:40:02.280 --> 01:40:10.284 [UNKNOWN]: Um, so Ogon catches up with her and attacks her by tackling her through a large plate glass window. 01:40:10.464 --> 01:40:17.468 [UNKNOWN]: So he is thrown her and himself outside the building, presumably to fall to someone's death. 01:40:17.928 --> 01:40:38.641 [UNKNOWN]: right we're there they're up in a multi story building we don't know how far but no that that cool little contraption that window washers raise on buildings to wash windows happens to be right outside the window that they go through so they land on on it that's kind of if he description it breaks their fall 01:40:39.841 --> 01:40:51.031 [UNKNOWN]: So the two of them can continue some hand-to-hand fist-to-cuffs, though now suspended however high on this small trolley that the window washers use. 01:40:52.433 --> 01:41:02.542 [UNKNOWN]: Kitty is given it a go, but it's just not working between the fact that she has lost those abilities and the fact that which it still hasn't told us. 01:41:02.702 --> 01:41:05.564 [UNKNOWN]: But it did on the previous page, right? 01:41:05.584 --> 01:41:05.924 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:41:06.445 --> 01:41:07.366 [UNKNOWN]: Did it actually tell us? 01:41:08.106 --> 01:41:10.128 [UNKNOWN]: Right, that panel right there. 01:41:11.250 --> 01:41:11.590 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah. 01:41:11.810 --> 01:41:22.953 [UNKNOWN]: Well, he says, Ogun Tellzer, be not afraid to say, well, no, she's, yeah, she's feeling at the panel above, she, she sniffs it and I'm like, really, sniff code isn't true. 01:41:23.873 --> 01:41:24.813 [UNKNOWN]: Okay. 01:41:24.853 --> 01:41:25.693 [UNKNOWN]: So she's feeling it. 01:41:26.033 --> 01:41:27.134 [UNKNOWN]: Sniffs at the stars. 01:41:27.174 --> 01:41:28.574 [UNKNOWN]: Like, oh, it is tainted. 01:41:28.594 --> 01:41:32.695 [UNKNOWN]: And then he tells her, it's merely to prevent any further phasing. 01:41:32.735 --> 01:41:33.015 [UNKNOWN]: So it's, 01:41:33.815 --> 01:41:41.680 [UNKNOWN]: It probably ennests the ties as her enough or makes her just high enough or whichever, that she just can't concentrate enough to phase anymore. 01:41:42.121 --> 01:41:46.944 [UNKNOWN]: So she's running that Ogun High and she can't phase. 01:41:47.084 --> 01:41:49.746 [UNKNOWN]: So all she's got is her martial abilities. 01:41:50.386 --> 01:41:55.347 [UNKNOWN]: which may be according to her but definitely according to ogoon are not the equivalent to his. 01:41:55.607 --> 01:42:00.408 [UNKNOWN]: So basically, you know, you know, shit, that's fine, but you don't know to shit, I know. 01:42:00.949 --> 01:42:09.371 [UNKNOWN]: And she's trying and he is probably toying with her at this point because he knows that she can't outfight him. 01:42:10.531 --> 01:42:14.692 [UNKNOWN]: He could continue just to beat her if he wanted to and she would be able to defend him. 01:42:15.192 --> 01:42:24.121 [UNKNOWN]: But somehow in their fighting they triggered the release of the quote unquote elevator and it pulls him up to the top of the building. 01:42:24.562 --> 01:42:27.365 [UNKNOWN]: She escapes ogoon jumping onto the roof of the building. 01:42:27.825 -->

01:42:29.927 [UNKNOWN]: He pursues her still running fight. 01:42:30.648 --> 01:42:57.438 [UNKNOWN]: you get fighty fighty and he's basically it's it I picture he he tells her to yield in this one panel but I would envision it more strike have you had enough strike again have you had enough strike again you know so it's going back and forth where he's punishing her in essence but he doesn't want to to finish her finish her because he wanted to give her the chance to turn herself back over to him 01:42:58.038 --> 01:43:15.832 [UNKNOWN]: so he's he's beating her asking her beating her asking her back and forth until they get back towards the edge of the building where you know another pusher too and he would just be able to push her off the building and at this point I guess she would fall all the way down without having that window washer thing to save her. 01:43:16.607 --> 01:43:19.670 [UNKNOWN]: Um, and we, we have the final confrontation here. 01:43:19.750 --> 01:43:27.698 [UNKNOWN]: She, she won't yield several panels of very scary ogoon, uh, drawn as only Minyola could draw. 01:43:27.899 --> 01:43:30.782 [UNKNOWN]: It is a very intense series of panels. 01:43:31.422 --> 01:43:31.783 [UNKNOWN]: Milgram. 01:43:32.263 --> 01:43:35.945 [UNKNOWN]: Mill, yeah, I wish he was minnilla, that would be for sweet milk him. 01:43:37.406 --> 01:43:41.988 [UNKNOWN]: He pulls his other sword, the katana he left downstairs. 01:43:42.048 --> 01:43:50.273 [UNKNOWN]: So this would be, I would presume his walk as she has Japanese short sword and he's about to whatever deliver the telling blow. 01:43:50.873 --> 01:43:58.877 [UNKNOWN]: And this is this is an imposing Wolverine we see, but it is far from the best draw on what this is such an awesome opportunity 01:44:01.999 --> 01:44:18.634 [UNKNOWN]: Um, the, yeah, the save of her dying at Ogon's blade is Wolverine finally showing up saying, um, I wouldn't do that, but if I were you now Wolverine is backed by a huge full moon. 01:44:18.894 --> 01:44:22.837 [UNKNOWN]: So we are as close to the moon as we have ever been in the history of the earth because it is 01:44:29.583 --> 01:44:43.867 [UNKNOWN]: Ones held a Kimbo in front of him, a cigarette smoking drifting into the air, standing on the ledge of the building, you know how you've got the lower portion that people actually on and you have a two or three foot built up ledge, you know, all the way around the building. 01:44:44.167 --> 01:44:52.769 [UNKNOWN]: He's standing on top of that, and turning, well actually, he has positioned himself in such a way that he is in front of Ogun, 01:44:54.069 --> 01:45:03.157 [UNKNOWN]: as Ogun is focused on the kneeling kitty in front of him in front of that wall about to deliver the death stroke. 01:45:03.357 --> 01:45:20.852 [UNKNOWN]: So she's here crying, you know, for mercy is it where the she's retracted in her hands or up an Ogun is standing over him over her about to deliver the slash, but two or three feet away, two or three feet up on the edge of the the ledge is this Wolverine saying I wouldn't do that 01:45:22.073 --> 01:45:44.342 [UNKNOWN]: uh... the blade is glinting we have a lens flare off of the uh... walk is actually here and ogun uh... you can't really tell if he's looking up at Wolverine he's probably still focused on kiddie and then Wolverine so this is the moment right before ogone realizes that Wolverine is there and excellent way to end this and preparation for the next issue this is 01:45:44.962 --> 01:45:50.284 [UNKNOWN]: This is definitely page-torn book-torn, even series-torn. 01:45:50.324 --> 01:45:57.688 [UNKNOWN]: If this was the end of this many series and they're going to do another one, you know, this is where you end it to get people to read the next issue. 01:45:58.132 --> 01:46:04.076 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I remember hitting this page the first time when I was a kid and going, Oh, this is going to be awesome. 01:46:04.176 --> 01:46:05.817 [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to have to wait a whole month. 01:46:05.937 --> 01:46:19.845 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know, but yeah, and the first time really in this mini series that I thought the art was a little bit of a laugh was just this panel. 01:46:20.345 --> 01:46:48.000 [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it is just his artwork in general maybe he didn't have as much time to spend on this one as he did other panel I don't know but it just it's it's lacking it I would assume that he drew the the book in order the issue in order Right, and so this was the last thing he drew and maybe he was running you know close to the deadline But I think in retrospect he should have done this this page first first this with this 01:46:49.160 --> 01:47:03.611 [UNKNOWN]: I think this is a this is a very important page and if you're going to turn a page to finally see Wolverine getting ready to throw down with the big bad Wolverine's got to look better than this you just have to Yeah, so yeah, but this was the time again. 01:47:03.631 --> 01:47:11.837 [UNKNOWN]: This was the time when Day firmly believed in you get this these books have to go out on time. 01:47:11.877 --> 01:47:13.378 [UNKNOWN]: We don't get like our book Jim shooter. 01:47:14.018 --> 01:47:14.799 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he was yeah 01:47:15.299 --> 01:47:36.854 [UNKNOWN]: I mean, this is the same gym shooters, the same guy that in the middle of secret wars, you know, Al-Mogram, it was either Al-Mogram or Bob-Late and I think it was Bob-Late and came in and did a couple of issues because Mike Zach was fast enough and it, for me, I like Bob-Late and but it's still at root it, it's a it's a quite the departure from that the one issue to the other when it comes very hard. 01:47:37.795 --> 01:47:52.078 [UNKNOWN]: And also, this is a time particularly in Marvel when artists weren't necessarily revered as much as they are nowadays for their work on comic books. 01:47:52.538 --> 01:48:03.700 [UNKNOWN]: This was still very much a character story driven media or medium, I guess

comic books at this time. 01:48:05.100 --> 01:48:16.149 [UNKNOWN]: the story always was given more than enough time such that you had to take it away from potentially the artwork inking coloring, you know, heavy. 01:48:16.209 --> 01:48:22.774 [UNKNOWN]: So, and I think you talked to a lot of the creators at this time and their generally was a feeling that 01:48:23.374 --> 01:48:36.143 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the artists may be known, and there may be people that like the artists, but the writers are what drive the comic books people come for the writing, and so But yeah, the anatomy is just off one side of his body looks the face. 01:48:36.283 --> 01:48:43.067 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's just having been able to spend I think the appropriate amount of time getting this artwork exactly where he wanted it. 01:48:43.648 --> 01:48:45.089 [UNKNOWN]: This would have been a much better panel. 01:48:45.589 --> 01:48:45.729 [UNKNOWN]: Yep. 01:48:46.230 --> 01:48:49.033 [UNKNOWN]: And then it's not, it's not strictly the composition. 01:48:49.093 --> 01:48:50.034 [UNKNOWN]: I like the composition. 01:48:50.074 --> 01:48:55.040 [UNKNOWN]: The buildings behind there's plenty of of area filled in there. 01:48:55.821 --> 01:48:59.425 [UNKNOWN]: Ogoon, I don't see anything off with Ogoon or Kitty. 01:48:59.866 --> 01:49:03.090 [UNKNOWN]: She's even got the darkened makeup for the Shadowcat character. 01:49:03.490 --> 01:49:19.234 [UNKNOWN]: the colorization is the colorization on Wolverine, but as you go up from his feet, it's almost like time ran out as you go from his feet up to, you know, it's like, yeah, the waste to the top of the head, yeah, I only had two hours to finish that. 01:49:19.294 --> 01:49:23.855 [UNKNOWN]: So I had to, you know, yeah, so Harry Wolverine, though, boy, he's here. 01:49:23.915 --> 01:49:24.235 [UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah. 01:49:25.155 --> 01:49:26.176 [UNKNOWN]: He's a fuzzy guy. 01:49:26.356 --> 01:49:27.016 [UNKNOWN]: He is, man. 01:49:27.497 --> 01:49:27.777 [UNKNOWN]: Sorry. 01:49:27.817 --> 01:49:28.798 [UNKNOWN]: Well, there we go. 01:49:29.018 --> 01:49:33.121 [UNKNOWN]: Good stuff, good book, excellent progression of the story. 01:49:33.181 --> 01:49:38.044 [UNKNOWN]: I think definitely looking forward to the next issue. 01:49:38.164 --> 01:49:41.166 [UNKNOWN]: Maybe kind of disappointed that it also is the last issue. 01:49:41.907 --> 01:49:45.369 [UNKNOWN]: But, you know, they have to finish it up at some point. 01:49:46.551 --> 01:49:51.175 [UNKNOWN]: Mine is ogoon because you couldn't continue that on just the story with ogoon. 01:49:51.716 --> 01:50:07.349 [UNKNOWN]: I definitely would have liked to have seen moving forward more of the Wolverine, Kitty Pride, Tokyo, Maruko, Yukio, Akika, you know, that whole carried on, like transitioning this into a series of its own? 01:50:07.810 --> 01:50:08.530 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah. 01:50:09.011 --> 01:50:09.871 [UNKNOWN]: All right. 01:50:10.572 --> 01:50:11.773 [UNKNOWN]: Should we talk about the ads? 01:50:12.233 --> 01:50:12.594 [UNKNOWN]: Yes. 01:50:22.887 --> 01:50:25.749 [UNKNOWN]: All right, our first ad is for the GoBots. 01:50:26.469 --> 01:50:28.631 [UNKNOWN]: So our first GoBot ad in the series. 01:50:30.592 --> 01:50:32.833 [UNKNOWN]: Did you own any GoBots where you a GoBot guy? 01:50:32.913 --> 01:50:39.798 [UNKNOWN]: No, they were, they were the unfortunate step for the love of the robots. 01:50:39.958 --> 01:50:42.199 [UNKNOWN]: They compared the rest transformers. 01:50:42.279 --> 01:50:48.243 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, honestly, there are people that love these and some that I follow on Twitter are all the time. 01:50:48.283 --> 01:50:48.584 [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, 01:50:49.484 --> 01:50:51.125 [UNKNOWN]: No dog, there is no 01:51:21.447 --> 01:51:23.228 [UNKNOWN]: The space shuttle robot there. 01:51:23.389 --> 01:51:24.129 [UNKNOWN]: I had him. 01:51:24.730 --> 01:51:35.719 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, but and I think my brother or a neighbor may have had the guy the motorcycle guy, but yeah No, I mean it's a good way to do these transforming robots just go for the transformers. 01:51:35.779 --> 01:51:36.900 [UNKNOWN]: They are the you know 01:51:37.160 --> 01:51:56.385 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, I had a number of Transformers, but that was the I don't that very with that go bot because I don't remember really being in the go bots that could have been something that my mom or dad was at a seeers or something and went hey, look a little robot get that for yeah, so and for those of you to can't see this add this is also for the monogram models for the 01:52:03.847 --> 01:52:19.767 [UNKNOWN]: here's something I didn't know even though we owned that space shuttle and it yeah it was a little diecast metal transformer guy uh according to this ad that robot's name is space c sp a y dash c okay there you go pretty dumb 01:52:21.370 --> 01:52:35.768 [UNKNOWN]: pretty pretty what what did you say pretty pretty dumb dumb oh okay yeah okay we got another fig fig slash apple Newton's maze I think we've had one in every other issue maybe 01:52:39.270 --> 01:52:45.112 [UNKNOWN]: And now, fruit chewing to biscoe apple bars with chunks of real apple. 01:52:45.192 --> 01:52:47.833 [UNKNOWN]: Hey, apple cookie ratio. 01:52:47.853 --> 01:52:51.414 [UNKNOWN]: Now biscoe apple bars in there. 01:52:51.654 --> 01:52:52.214 [UNKNOWN]: Fruit chewing. 01:52:52.234 --> 01:52:52.734 [UNKNOWN]: No biscoe. 01:52:52.754 --> 01:52:53.454 [UNKNOWN]: No biscoe. 01:53:06.245 --> 01:53:11.868 [UNKNOWN]: You don't see, or maybe I don't look in the right place, but I don't see fig Newtons like at the store like I once did. 01:53:11.989 --> 01:53:12.689 [UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah, they got him. 01:53:12.949 --> 01:53:15.731 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, yeah, I just, I don't seem to run across them. 01:53:15.791 --> 01:53:18.593 [UNKNOWN]: Karen really likes them every once in a while we'll get, we can see. 01:53:18.853 --> 01:53:21.354 [UNKNOWN]: We get the generic Croger brand usually a bit.

01:53:21.374 --> 01:53:22.015 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean. 01:53:22.635 --> 01:53:30.197 [UNKNOWN]: I can't imagine necessarily that there are huge differences in brand of, I mean, it's it's crust and fig filling. 01:53:30.217 --> 01:53:30.377 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:53:30.458 --> 01:53:31.018 [UNKNOWN]: So, yeah. 01:53:31.478 --> 01:53:41.881 [UNKNOWN]: And here's our Star Comics ad with where you can subscribe for 650 to get what, what, a year of, a year. 01:53:42.481 --> 01:53:42.961 [UNKNOWN]: One title. 01:53:43.602 --> 01:53:47.623 [UNKNOWN]: Now, at one time, back in the recesses of your memory. 01:53:48.103 --> 01:53:54.406 [UNKNOWN]: were you going to do a licensed character Marvel show? 01:53:54.787 --> 01:54:07.533 [UNKNOWN]: Because I remember you asking, and I felt bad because I pointed to star comics, and then the more I looked at star comics, the more that list grew of the characters that were, and I was like, oh man, that's just, yeah. 01:54:07.673 --> 01:54:10.435 [UNKNOWN]: Okay, yeah, I thought about it at one point, because I'm thinking, you know, 01:54:16.658 --> 01:54:26.744 [UNKNOWN]: If you're looking for adventure this summer, a scape with Marvel Comics, fight crime with Spider-Man, meet the Fantastic Four, and watch Captain America in action. 01:54:27.184 --> 01:54:38.770 [UNKNOWN]: May the Force be with you as you battle the evil empire in Star Wars, discover the secrets of the South American jungle in Raiders of the Lost Ark, and with Marvel Comics you're never alone, because they can go with you. 01:54:39.211 --> 01:54:42.232 [UNKNOWN]: In the car or to the park, even on a rainy day. 01:54:45.634 --> 01:54:55.517 [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, I was like, um, maybe check in the Star Comics too, because I think, yeah, and I think just about everything in Star Comics was licensed. 01:54:55.557 --> 01:54:58.598 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think any of those were original Marvel characters. 01:54:58.638 --> 01:54:58.838 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:54:59.358 --> 01:55:02.999 [UNKNOWN]: And this is what 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11. 01:55:03.559 --> 01:55:07.941 [UNKNOWN]: On this by the time Star Comics was done, there were 40 or 50 characters. 01:55:09.081 --> 01:55:18.124 [UNKNOWN]: They just blew up throwing stuff under the Star Comics banner and this is kind of where they started with these, but yeah, there were many many more than this. 01:55:18.604 --> 01:55:22.965 [UNKNOWN]: Now, it looks like you got 16 issues for just 650 almost a year and a half. 01:55:23.205 --> 01:55:24.225 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I guess. 01:55:24.945 --> 01:55:25.125 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:55:25.666 --> 01:55:30.107 [UNKNOWN]: Strawberry shortcake planet Terry Wally the Wizard Heathcliff. 01:55:38.189 --> 01:55:41.552 [UNKNOWN]: I don't, I don't remember, I don't remember playing it. 01:55:41.612 --> 01:55:43.113 [UNKNOWN]: Planet Terry sounds familiar. 01:55:43.213 --> 01:55:46.296 [UNKNOWN]: I don't remember Wally the Wizard or Gitlongangang. 01:55:46.336 --> 01:55:51.320 [UNKNOWN]: Gitlongangang, I think was a cartoon before the Star Comics thing. 01:56:09.085 --> 01:56:24.415 [UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to run, I'm not going to run, I'm not going to run, I'm not going to run, I'm not going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm going to run, I'm 01:56:24.944 --> 01:56:53.358 [UNKNOWN]: uh... mowai comics add with yeah let's see is it that a couple months ago avengers uh... we go back to what is uh... what fifty fifty seven yeah fifty seven of it i would love to be able to get fifty seven for ten bucks yeah yeah because one money back then and when i see it on ebay now you're looking at two fifty three three fifty something like that because that's the first appearance of the vision 01:56:54.092 --> 01:56:54.492 [UNKNOWN]: Oh, okay. 01:56:54.552 --> 01:56:54.812 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:56:55.073 --> 01:56:56.273 [UNKNOWN]: All right. 01:56:56.413 --> 01:57:00.055 [UNKNOWN]: If anybody's interested, I talk about that on an episode of just another fanboy. 01:57:00.515 --> 01:57:03.657 [UNKNOWN]: And then I have a like a five-minute long blooper reel where I try to say a particular word and it never comes out. 01:57:03.677 --> 01:57:04.177 [UNKNOWN]: It was in that episode. 01:57:04.197 --> 01:57:05.037 [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to say the word. 01:57:05.057 --> 01:57:05.858 [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to say the word. 01:57:05.878 --> 01:57:06.558 [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to say the word. 01:57:06.578 --> 01:57:07.458 [UNKNOWN]: I don't want 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01:57:17.199 --> 01:57:40.738 [UNKNOWN]: probably it was the middle the middle spread because let's see um do they have X man I see yep X man oh I see what the X man are going for 94 the first new X man was already up to 60 bucks then so they knew that it was hot already yeah um hey giant size one which would be the very first appearance was up to 50 01:57:41.599 --> 01:57:48.038 [UNKNOWN]: So if you missed those out to get the first two appearances of the new X-Men, that cost you over 100 bucks, man, that was way lot of money back then. 01:57:48.671 --> 01:57:55.455 [UNKNOWN]: But, and at this time, according to this ad, mile-high comics had one, two, three, four, five, six locations. 01:57:56.055 --> 01:57:56.515 [UNKNOWN]: Mm-hm. 01:57:56.936 --> 01:57:58.196 [UNKNOWN]: I think they've retracted a bit. 01:57:58.737 --> 01:58:01.178 [UNKNOWN]: But, they, it looks like they were under different names. 01:58:02.359 --> 01:58:06.961 [UNKNOWN]: Fantasy works, all in a dream, time warp, amazing worlds, and top-notch comics. 01:58:07.221 --> 01:58:08.402 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're down to just the one. 01:58:08.842 --> 01:58:13.285 [UNKNOWN]: And, you know, all the Rado stores, eventually, they had a California store too, didn't they? 01:58:13.525 --> 01:58:14.546 [UNKNOWN]: Did they have some? 01:58:14.686 --> 01:58:16.887 [UNKNOWN]: I thought they had something in California, also at one point. 01:58:17.587 --> 01:58:18.107 [UNKNOWN]: I don't remember. 01:58:18.427 --> 01:58:18.567 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:58:18.707 --> 01:58:19.048 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 01:58:19.088 --> 01:58:26.190 [UNKNOWN]: Now, all of this stuff has been retracted into just one huge giant mega store, giant store. 01:58:26.491 --> 01:58:30.272 [UNKNOWN]: And you know, you walk into that store and it's so big. 01:58:30.732 --> 01:58:38.435 [UNKNOWN]: But then there's like one whole area, you can't even go to because it's just row after row of shelves with graphic novels on it. 01:58:38.475 --> 01:58:43.257 [UNKNOWN]: It's like their back room, but you can see them, so yeah, it's neat. 01:58:45.698 --> 01:58:47.279 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah. 01:58:47.339 --> 01:58:55.561 [UNKNOWN]: We have a PSA on sexual abuse from Powerpack and the amazing Spider-Man. 01:58:55.721 --> 01:58:58.542 [UNKNOWN]: I remember seeing this all the time back then. 01:58:59.583 --> 01:59:06.725 [UNKNOWN]: Looks like we have some Marvel conventions or at least Marvel showing up at different conventions. 01:59:06.945 --> 01:59:09.466 [UNKNOWN]: None of these have necessarily like names like 01:59:12.112 --> 01:59:28.413 [UNKNOWN]: You know, since you're invited to attend any of these fantastic upcoming comic conventions, you'll meet Marvel artist writers and editors, and then below that, on the same page, are the Marvel Super Mart, so other places you can get back issues of Marvel Comics. 01:59:29.220 --> 01:59:47.610 [UNKNOWN]: uh... we got one of those pages with just all the these almost like a classified ads just the places that just can only afford to get a little bit of space there uh... we got the thore guy marvel conx priceless guy we see him all the time uh... moon dance enterprises i remember that the spider-man thing there but 01:59:48.691 --> 02:00:11.668 [UNKNOWN]: Sammy precious gems we got the knuckle buckle again yeah brats knuckles I guess the same people to read comic books you're interested in brass knuckles I guess is what I guess what the takeaway is there there's a mental survival kit hocus pocus self-taught self-hip noses okay and then uh just something that just says space toys 02:00:12.428 --> 02:00:14.569 [UNKNOWN]: And only space toys. 02:00:14.990 --> 02:00:20.293 [UNKNOWN]: Yep, that's still pretty broad space toys rocket ships and accessories. 02:00:20.553 --> 02:00:27.618 [UNKNOWN]: So apparently that's all they do rocket ships and accessories 20 funny funny golden state comics as an ad here 02:00:28.178 --> 02:00:43.792 [UNKNOWN]: all right uh... we got a bullpen bulletins uh... featuring grew wonder i guess uh... it looks like he just started to yeah so the yeah probably epicline is just getting started and and grew is uh... that's the first issue of grew that's advertised out 02:00:43.952 --> 02:00:54.741 [UNKNOWN]: Look, look at those books down there, those are, this is in my mind the golden age of Marvel Comics through the 80s up through maybe the mid-90s. 02:00:55.061 --> 02:01:01.467 [UNKNOWN]: But this is just, these are the characters that people nowadays are crying about getting reprints. 02:01:01.947 --> 02:01:02.187 [UNKNOWN]: Right? 02:01:02.267 --> 02:01:02.507 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 02:01:02.587 --> 02:01:05.050 [UNKNOWN]: You see, Ram, you see, Micronauts. 02:01:05.690 --> 02:01:07.051 [UNKNOWN]: power pack is there. 02:01:07.671 --> 02:01:08.712 [UNKNOWN]: You've got Conan. 02:01:09.052 --> 02:01:10.473 [UNKNOWN]: He's he's being there. 02:01:10.493 --> 02:01:12.315 [UNKNOWN]: There's an actual red son you book here. 02:01:12.355 --> 02:01:13.555 [UNKNOWN]: You were asking about new mutants. 02:01:13.736 --> 02:01:15.457 [UNKNOWN]: This is advertising number 25. 02:01:15.597 --> 02:01:17.638 [UNKNOWN]: So the new mutants have been running about two years. 02:01:17.678 --> 02:01:18.259 [UNKNOWN]: You can't just point. 02:01:18.839 --> 02:01:21.241 [UNKNOWN]: And what are the X-Men up to are they on here? 02:01:21.970 --> 02:01:47.667 [UNKNOWN]: one ninety one ok i was thinking the mid one eighties because there was a reference to it so we're closing in on issue two hundred which is a uh... i believe two hundred was the trial of magneto at the first time uh... so then you've got the epic which is something that marvel just recently started and we will learn more about that here shortly and uh... to some extent but that was a excuse me marvels attempt to illicit and produce 02:01:48.447 --> 02:01:51.029 [UNKNOWN]: indie feeling story. 02:01:51.069 --> 02:02:02.036 [UNKNOWN]: So a lot of the hotter indie artists, indie

creators, and also their own creators that they wanted to give that outlet to to keep them from going out there on their own and doing it. 02:02:02.476 --> 02:02:12.723 [UNKNOWN]: They created epic little edge year, little more adult, little bit more out there as far as the what was portrayed in the stories. 02:02:13.423 --> 02:02:13.604 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 02:02:13.784 --> 02:02:15.305 [UNKNOWN]: And that's what epic comics was all about. 02:02:15.845 --> 02:02:30.337 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they also used it to for a couple of licensed properly properties, elf quest and a kira, yeah, but this is this month according to our our checklist, we got the GI Joe yearbook number one, okay. 02:02:31.504 --> 02:02:31.804 [UNKNOWN]: All right. 02:02:32.284 --> 02:02:35.985 [UNKNOWN]: When we got next here, we got our subscription page. 02:02:36.025 --> 02:02:36.165 [UNKNOWN]: Yep. 02:02:36.645 --> 02:02:39.666 [UNKNOWN]: Still got Iron Man and his Iron Santa suit. 02:02:39.786 --> 02:02:42.206 [UNKNOWN]: Not as good a deal as you were getting on the Starcom. 02:02:42.226 --> 02:02:42.646 [UNKNOWN]: Still right. 02:02:42.666 --> 02:02:44.407 [UNKNOWN]: Hell no. 02:02:44.467 --> 02:02:46.167 [UNKNOWN]: Well, it was a little bit more, wouldn't it? 02:02:46.607 --> 02:02:47.187 [UNKNOWN]: This is 5. 02:02:47.227 --> 02:02:48.308 [UNKNOWN]: 15. 02:02:48.908 --> 02:02:49.208 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah. 02:02:49.288 --> 02:02:52.708 [UNKNOWN]: Starcom 16 for 640 or something like that. 02:02:52.808 --> 02:02:53.048 [UNKNOWN]: 650. 02:02:53.149 --> 02:02:54.089 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so. 02:02:54.549 --> 02:02:56.589 [UNKNOWN]: Well, still for an extra buck, you got three more 02:03:01.060 --> 02:03:19.756 [UNKNOWN]: uh... then we have a an ad for a indiana jones role playing game from tsr chadlin to go to imagination to come alive battle with the creatures of dungeon dragon frapple against the forces of evil as a marble comic superhero 02:03:23.269 --> 02:03:27.914 [UNKNOWN]: Hunter, Fincher, and Glory, as Indiana Jones. 02:03:28.054 --> 02:03:31.877 [UNKNOWN]: All you role-playing games of TSR had done to contract on this. 02:03:32.318 --> 02:03:35.761 [UNKNOWN]: Unleash the power of your imagination. 02:03:36.241 --> 02:03:39.644 [UNKNOWN]: I remember, they made that only because of the ad. 02:03:39.884 --> 02:03:41.346 [UNKNOWN]: We never, I never played it. 02:03:42.067 --> 02:03:46.451 [UNKNOWN]: My brother was a huge role-playing guy, but this was one he didn't get. 02:03:46.751 --> 02:03:47.852 [UNKNOWN]: Does he still roleplay now? 02:03:48.533 --> 02:03:49.474 [UNKNOWN]: I don't think so, no. 02:03:50.917 --> 02:03:52.980 [UNKNOWN]: And then we have our ad for risk. 02:03:53.701 --> 02:03:58.368 [UNKNOWN]: History records the conquest of such great strategists as Alexander Caesar. 02:03:59.262 --> 02:04:08.626 [UNKNOWN]: Napoleon, but what of Dave Johnson, who, in less than one evening, strategically maneuvered his armies from Africa, imperiled Europe and established a foothold in Asia? 02:04:08.846 --> 02:04:11.887 [UNKNOWN]: Ah, I'm taking Mongolia! 02:04:11.907 --> 02:04:12.828 [UNKNOWN]: 35 more armies! 02:04:12.868 --> 02:04:13.428 [UNKNOWN]: Ah! 02:04:14.008 --> 02:04:15.929 [UNKNOWN]: Will nothing stop this man? 02:04:16.209 --> 02:04:16.509 [UNKNOWN]: Risk! 02:04:16.769 --> 02:04:18.970 [UNKNOWN]: Parker Brothers Game of Strategy and Conquest! 02:04:19.150 --> 02:04:21.951 [UNKNOWN]: Who says there are no more worlds to conquer? 02:04:23.172 --> 02:04:25.032 [UNKNOWN]: Which coin am I used to play the hell out of? 02:04:25.793 --> 02:04:28.434 [UNKNOWN]: I've never played, while it was, yeah, it was really cool. 02:04:29.172 --> 02:04:34.339 [UNKNOWN]: All right, anything else you want to say about this issue, the penultimate before the big showdown. 02:04:34.759 --> 02:04:36.321 [UNKNOWN]: No, I don't, I don't pixel. 02:04:36.562 --> 02:04:40.327 [UNKNOWN]: I think I've gotten everything off my chest, then I will close it down. 02:04:45.635 --> 02:04:52.639 [UNKNOWN]: In our next episode, Ogoon, the Immortal Samurai, once Kitty back, and Wolverine pulls out all the stops to save her. 02:04:53.019 --> 02:04:59.263 [UNKNOWN]: That's next month, in episode number six, when Ed and I take a look at Kitty Pride and Wolverine number six, honor. 02:04:59.763 --> 02:05:12.111 [UNKNOWN]: So until next time folks, actually before I say that, one other thing we'll be doing next month, after we talk about Wolverine, Kitty Pride and Wolverine number six, is announcing what series we're gonna look at next. 02:05:12.731 --> 02:05:15.254 [UNKNOWN]: So, we're not going to, we're not going to tell you in a day now. 02:05:15.274 --> 02:05:16.175 [UNKNOWN]: No, not today. 02:05:16.195 --> 02:05:19.399 [UNKNOWN]: That way you have to go, just like that cool page term was Wolverine. 02:05:19.839 --> 02:05:22.342 [UNKNOWN]: We're going to tell you what to talk about next. 02:05:22.382 --> 02:05:23.764 [UNKNOWN]: Next time. 02:05:24.184 --> 02:05:24.765 [UNKNOWN]: That's it. 02:05:25.205 --> 02:05:27.428 [UNKNOWN]: So until next time folks, I'm Steven, that's it. 02:05:27.908 --> 02:05:29.690 [UNKNOWN]: And this was the comic book super show. 02:05:29.750 --> 02:05:30.511 [UNKNOWN]: Thanks for listening. 02:05:30.872 --> 02:05:31.412 [UNKNOWN]: Ciao. 02:05:31.973 --> 02:05:32.734 [UNKNOWN]: Ciao. 02:05:40.850 --> 02:05:44.734 [UNKNOWN]: We want to thank you for listening to this episode of the comic book Super Show. 02:05:45.134 --> 02:05:50.920 [UNKNOWN]: Questions and comments can be directed to the comic book Super Show at somanypodcasts.com. 02:05:51.420 --> 02:05:57.987 [UNKNOWN]: If you enjoyed the show, you can help to boost our presence online by leaving a rating or review on your favorite podcast app. 02:05:58.467 --> 02:06:01.848 [UNKNOWN]: I also invite you to join our subscription programs, Steven R.L. 02:06:01.928 --> 02:06:02.428 [UNKNOWN]: Be On. 02:06:02.928 --> 02:06:07.669 [UNKNOWN]: And in return, you'll get episodes of the comic book Super Show early and ad-free. 02:06:08.089 --> 02:06:14.110 [UNKNOWN]: Check out the link in the show notes or just go to beyond.stevenrls.com to sign up today. 02:06:14.531 --> 02:06:17.411 [UNKNOWN]: The comic book Super Show is a presentation of Steven R.L. 02:06:17.471 --> 02:06:19.192 [UNKNOWN]: media for more nerdy content. 02:06:19.272 --> 02:06:22.812 [UNKNOWN]: Just like this, check out so many podcasts.com. 02:06:23.393 --> 02:06:25.393 [UNKNOWN]: All links will be in the show notes. 02:06:29.818 --> 02:06:33.165 [UNKNOWN]: Just don't think I can move through life-knowing that a guy named Stephen did this to me. 02:06:33.265 --> 02:06:35.209 [UNKNOWN]: How could you let this happen, Stephen? 02:06:35.269 --> 02:06:35.650 [UNKNOWN]: Stephen! 02:06:36.070 --> 02:06:36.531 [UNKNOWN]: Thank God. 02:06:37.092 --> 02:06:38.856 [UNKNOWN]: Had a horrible feeling, how was going to be the only one here? 02:06:39.136 --> 02:06:39.878 [UNKNOWN]: Wanna piece of fruit? 02:06:40.178 --> 02:06:40.459 [UNKNOWN]: M.I.T. 02:06:40.479 --> 02:06:40.880 [UNKNOWN]: Madward. 02:06:41.401 --> 02:06:41.681 [UNKNOWN]: Yes.