ANDY BURNHAM: THE PM NOBODY VOTED FOR의 전체 녹취록

joke I was gonna tell about eating a packet of scampi fries. 00:02:24.040 --> 00:02:25.850 But yeah, I, I think that's good. 00:02:25.850 --> 00:02:31.110 I think it sh- it could have also been extended to the hospitality industry in general. 00:02:31.110 --> 00:02:35.911 Like, there's a… Restaurants are closing like crazy. 00:02:36.181 --> 00:02:40.080 You know, prices everywhere in sort of even down to fish and chip shops. 00:02:40.371 --> 00:02:47.769 He could have got himself a massive, like, tick in the box if he brought chips and blue drinks down A few percentage points Big in Hull. 00:02:48.118 --> 00:02:52.008 Um A- a- ac- across, you know, his potential future voters. 00:02:52.008 --> 00:03:00.709 But, but yeah, a- and, and the other argument that comes out of all of this is with making such drastic changes and big changes and going for, like, a lot of devolution, right? 00:03:00.709 --> 00:03:06.938 'Cause the Manchester office thing's about taking power away from Westminster and putting it back into the areas. 00:03:07.209 --> 00:03:14.799 There's an argument that he doesn't have a mandate for any of this stuff, and really should only be operating under the mandate of, of Starmer, right? 00:03:14.799 --> 00:03:16.438 Or inside that mandate at least. 00:03:16.709 --> 00:03:21.329 Well, I mean, this is, in my mind, the biggest part of the problem. 00:03:21.808 --> 00:03:39.209 It's, it's just completely undemocratic, you know, 'cause there was an election, people voted for Labour, and they voted for Starmer, and for all the promises and pledges that he made in the run-up to that election. 00:03:39.588 --> 00:03:52.769 And then all of a sudden someone else just gets in and goes in different directions to what the previous prime minister did, and nobody voted for this. 00:03:53.598 --> 00:03:59.288 It, it was… I- it's just really, it's really dodgy, you know? 00:03:59.609 --> 00:04:20.928 And it's sort of like Banana Republic levels of deception in a way, 'cause it, it can't be… He can't really go on TV at any point in the future and claim that Britain's democratic because someone's just gonna say, "Oh, interesting. So who, who voted for you?" You know? 00:04:20.928 --> 00:04:21.538 Yeah. 00:04:21.579 --> 00:04:22.088 Nobody. 00:04:22.139 --> 00:04:22.478 Yeah. 00:04:22.988 --> 00:04:24.119 Yeah, there's no mandate. 00:04:24.119 --> 00:04:27.759 I guess Starmer will probably be having d- different types of mandates now he's out. 00:04:27.759 --> 00:04:36.369 But, um, yeah, s- like if you look at Burnham, he hasn't been elected, but how many of the last leaders of the United Kingdom have actually been elected? 00:04:36.369 --> 00:04:39.088 I think we had Boris Johnson, right? 00:04:39.119 --> 00:04:41.428 He was elected by the people. 00:04:41.798 --> 00:04:43.329 We had Keir Starmer. 00:04:43.329 --> 00:04:45.598 Uh, is that the, is that, that's the only two, right? 00:04:45.819 --> 00:04:48.408 That- Out of all of them … I think so out of… Yeah. 00:04:48.408 --> 00:04:49.019 We had what? 00:04:49.019 --> 00:04:54.411 Rishi Sunak, we had Liz Truss, we had- Theresa May Yeah. 00:04:54.610 --> 00:04:55.690 Theresa May. 00:04:55.740 --> 00:04:57.620 Was she the, she was before, right? 00:04:57.620 --> 00:05:00.151 But she wasn't voted in either, I don't think. 00:05:00.151 --> 00:05:01.050 I don't think so. 00:05:01.050 --> 00:05:01.451 So I don't think she won an election. 00:05:01.451 --> 00:05:02.661 I can't see that happening. 00:05:03.091 --> 00:05:05.420 Um, so yeah, it is, it's bizarre. 00:05:05.690 --> 00:05:15.600 But, but then some of these other changes that he's looking to make, like moving his office up to Manchester once a week, it just feels like a bit of a ploy. 00:05:16.420 --> 00:05:17.971 It's just optics, isn't it? 00:05:18.011 --> 00:05:31.490 And see, the thing is, it's, um, they know about the demographics of voters and they know who's kind of the most angry about what's going on in the country and whose lives have been more affected. 00:05:31.531 --> 00:06:02.071 And as someone who comes from the northeast of England, uh, yeah, northern parts of the UK have just declined massively over the years, and there's just, there's no investment compared to anything… Once you get that bit further south, it seems like everything's better, including hospitals and education and just all-round investment in infrastructure and business and everything. 00:06:02.380 --> 00:06:09.500 But in the north, it's just been, just been neglected for, I don't know, 20, 30 years. 00:06:09.771 --> 00:06:13.151 So I think in some ways he's kind of bringing hope to people. 00:06:13.641 --> 00:06:26.321 And I don't really see how him traveling to Manchester once a week is gonna reinvigorate that, that whole area of the UK, but maybe it gives people a bit of hope, or at, at least it looks good. 00:06:27.591 --> 00:06:27.730 Yeah. 00:06:27.880 --> 00:06:29.480 He's popping back for a hot pot or something. 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:36.081 Although that being said, one of the benefits for the north is you can go to get, get a portion of fish and chips for less than a tenner still. 00:06:36.350 --> 00:06:41.250 You're not having that anywhere south of like- Which … the, the, the, you know, the bottom end of the M1. 00:06:41.261 --> 00:06:48.420 Once you get into sort of Buckinghamshire and onwards, you're definitely gonna be 12 quid for fish and chips, which is, you know, outrageous. 00:06:48.651 --> 00:06:49.600 It, it really is. 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:51.021 But he's, he's good at hitting the buzzword. 00:06:51.021 --> 00:06:58.300 So I saw Donald Trump posted on Truth Social, which we will be talking a bit more about Mr. 00:06:55.130 --> 00:06:58.300 Trump, uh, in our next episode. 00:06:58.721 --> 00:07:11.761 But he was saying, "Oh yeah, the people in Aberdeen are gonna be celebrating today because Burnham's talking about oil and drilling and gas and all of this stuff." But he is only talking

about it, right? 00:07:11.771 --> 00:07:14.221 He's not, he's not actually done anything yet. 00:07:14.221 --> 00:07:30.630 I mean, he's not been in very long, granted, but he's not said, "We are gonna start drilling our own oil again." He's not said, "We're gonna start taking advantage of our massive gas reserves again." He's just using the buzzword to kind of put it in the media that, oh, we're looking at potentially oil and gas again. 00:07:30.911 --> 00:07:35.701 But we're tied into all of these green things that we've ridiculously put ourselves into. 00:07:35.711 --> 00:07:36.081 Mm-hmm. 00:07:36.430 --> 00:07:40.701 So, like, he's not gonna go and suddenly alienate all of those voters that he's got, right? 00:07:41.130 --> 00:08:07.271 Um, because then obviously the risk is they all get… And I think this is the biggest risk of it all, is like you, by trying to go more central and maybe get some more of the north, northern right wing or more right wing or right-leaning re- re- um, Restore and, and whatever Farage followers back on side, he's gonna alienate his green left wing arm. 00:08:07.781 --> 00:08:20.401 And what's probably then gonna happen is he's gonna flip-flop and U-turn- Mm-hmm … and go back and forward between the two things, and just push more voters to the greens and more voters into Reform and Restore, right? 00:08:20.401 --> 00:08:28.240 It could well do, yeah, 'cause you, you have so many different extremes of opinion, you can't please all of those people. 00:08:29.607 --> 00:08:30.547 all of the time. 00:08:30.997 --> 00:08:33.346 It's like, uh, it's like the Thomas Sowell thing. 00:08:33.547 --> 00:08:36.447 There's no solutions, only trade-offs. 00:08:36.447 --> 00:08:39.606 And it, it's a little bit like that, you're playing this constant game. 00:08:39.927 --> 00:08:48.267 And also, the thing is, he's, he has said a lot of things, and so it's,"Okay, well, we'll, we'll knock 20% off rates here, and we'll do this over here. 00:08:48.267 --> 00:08:53.216 And oh, we'll o- open up the North Sea for, for drilling." And go, "Okay, cool. 00:08:53.267 --> 00:08:57.157 That's, that sounds kind of expensive. 00:08:57.706 --> 00:09:01.756 Where's the money coming from?" You know? 00:08:57.706 --> 00:09:04.697 It's like, it's like me saying, "I could do with a, a new mode of transportation. 00:09:05.386 --> 00:09:07.466 The new Range Rover looks pretty nice. 00:09:07.496 --> 00:09:11.466 Um, let, let me just check, uh, let me just check my bank account. 00:09:12.626 --> 00:09:19.417 Ah, it looks like I can maybe get some flip-flops if I go to the secondhand shop," you know? 00:09:19.866 --> 00:09:22.427 And I think Britain- Yeah … is in a, a similar place right now. 00:09:22.787 --> 00:09:34.756 The, the money's just running dry, and all they've been doing for so long is just borrowing more money to then pay benefits or pay other things, or to, to service other debt. 00:09:35.116 --> 00:09:58.417 And so it's a, all of his plans, and th- there's a lot of really amazing, impressive ones where you go, "Wow, wow, that'd make things better. How? How are you gonna finance all of this other than getting into more debt?" And then we even have a, a worse debt to GDP ratio, which is already looking really, really bad, so. 00:09:58.647 --> 00:09:59.307 Yeah. 00:09:59.537 --> 00:10:03.616 Yeah, and he's already, he's already alluded to it, is, is taxation increases. 00:10:04.076 --> 00:10:10.106 He's already alluded and mentioned a couple of things and said, you know, British public can handle a bit more taxes. 00:10:10.106 --> 00:10:21.447 Like, it's… So that, that's his plan, is to tax people, and I think it just shows how far removed the people running our country are from the reality on, on the ground day to day. 00:10:21.447 --> 00:10:30.076 And I know that's hard for us to say where we live so far away, but obviously we, we, we're in it, we read it, we see it, w- like we've, we've got that objective view from the outside. 00:10:30.397 --> 00:10:36.096 But I feel like most people now, they, they're not, they can't handle any more taxation increases. 00:10:36.376 --> 00:10:40.866 And you could even say, "Oh, well, you know, tax the rich," but we live in a global economy now. 00:10:40.947 --> 00:10:46.157 Like, if we try and tax the rich any more than we already are, they're just gonna leave. 00:10:46.586 --> 00:11:02.177 And the thing is when they leave- Yeah … it leaves an even bigger hole, because even getting the, the bit of tax that they've been unable to dodge out of them is still a massive more amount than like, you know, Gary who works in Tesco paying his, like, contributions. 00:11:02.376 --> 00:11:13.437 Well, the, the thing with that as well is that for top 10%, uh, the top 10% high earners in the UK pay 60% of the tax. 00:11:14.976 --> 00:11:18.037 So yeah, yeah, you can, you can tax them more, cool. 00:11:18.407 --> 00:11:33.907 But if I'm a, a multimillionaire that has businesses and various things in the UK, and then all of a sudden I'm paying even more tax on top of what's already a huge percentage of tax, I'm just gonna leave. 00:11:34.697 --> 00:11:36.726 And then, well, what does that mean? 00:11:36.756 --> 00:11:43.236 Well, then when people do that en masse, you're gonna have less, less tax being paid overall. 00:11:43.437 --> 00:11:45.096 You're gonna have less businesses. 00:11:45.116 --> 00:11:56.177 You're also getting rid of like the, the smartest entrepreneurial genius type people, and they're just going and setting up shop somewhere else. 00:11:56.947 --> 00:12:01.677 And it is a massive issue, and it's probably something we could dig into when news comes up around it. 00:12:01.677 --> 00:12:04.336 But like brain drain is now a thing in the UK. 00:12:04.697 --> 00:12:19.866 You know, you … This thing they used to talk about brain drain, so people, they go through like all the resources in their developing country or wherever they come from to become a

doctor or an engineer or any of these really high value to the society jobs and, and vocations. 00:12:20.777 --> 00:12:31.667 And then they come and live in England and, or Britain and, and they, they use the, the, the spending from the country they came from, probably paid for it, but still, you know what I mean, it's always investment- Mm-hmm … in education. 00:12:31.927 --> 00:12:36.966 And then they come and give that value to a, a developed country because they're seeking a better life. 00:12:37.287 --> 00:12:38.856 Now, now that's happening the other way. 00:12:38.856 --> 00:12:43.177 Boris Johnson was talking about this the other day, um, where people are, are leaving. 00:12:43.187 --> 00:12:49.206 So they've … We've got a massive brain drain problem because the smartest people are like, "I don't wanna stay here. I'm getting out." Yeah. 00:12:50.767 --> 00:13:02.787 So there's, there's, there's so many problems to solve, and I feel like there probably does Not that I have any hope of anyone fixing it, but the, the answer probably is a general election to give the public a chance to decide who they want. 00:13:03.096 --> 00:13:03.466 You know? 00:13:03.486 --> 00:13:04.657 Who do they want to lead them? 00:13:05.027 --> 00:13:19.596 I think whenever this happens when, when a, a prime minister resigns or gets fired effectively, whatever you wanna call it, I think there should be a snap general election at that point for the new one. 00:13:20.067 --> 00:13:23.187 Because it, it just makes no sense. 00:13:24.311 --> 00:13:28.931 To y- you just instead have someone there that nobody voted for. 00:13:29.561 --> 00:13:40.010 I mean, yeah, okay, maybe there's not a huge difference between Starmer and Burnham, but there is a difference, and, and that counts. 00:13:40.801 --> 00:13:41.331 Yeah. 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:44.990 Yeah, well, I'll be postal voting in for Count Binface when the time comes. 00:13:46.100 --> 00:13:46.230 Right. 00:13:46.260 --> 00:13:47.591 I think we all will. 00:13:47.711 --> 00:13:49.961 Who, who knows? 00:13:49.961 --> 00:14:08.850 I mean, we'll see how crazy politics gets in the UK, but you could e- end up seeing Count Binface beating Farage, then later becoming PM at some point in the more distant future, and that would be- Yeah … a perfect, a perfect picture. 00:14:08.850 --> 00:14:15.500 Despite the fact he is an extreme left liberal, but yeah, some of his policies are, you know, fair enough. 00:14:15.500 --> 00:14:18.681 Maybe we can find a mid-ground, uh, vote in someone. 00:14:18.711 --> 00:14:21.971 Let… Maybe we should just get, like, David Beckham in there or something, you know? 00:14:22.380 --> 00:14:24.591 Um, and just get him to run things. 00:14:24.841 --> 00:14:26.421 Um- Yeah, why not? 00:14:26.421 --> 00:14:27.311 That might be a brighter future for us. 00:14:27.341 --> 00:14:29.071 Or Gordon Ramsay or something. 00:14:29.081 --> 00:14:32.350 Um- So we can go back to being, like, a third place nation. 00:14:32.951 --> 00:14:34.811 Like, that's how we… We're comfortable there. 00:14:35.461 --> 00:14:35.551 You know? 00:14:35.841 --> 00:14:35.890 Anyway. 00:14:36.370 --> 00:14:42.000 Well, it's true, but unfortunately, that's, that's kind of how it, it goes in the UK, you know? 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:49.311 And things are gradually, gradually declining, and, and they have done for a really long time. 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:57.150 Before, before the Second World War or around the start of it, Britain had the largest navy in the world. 00:14:57.701 --> 00:15:01.610 It had control over, like, huge amounts of the planet. 00:15:01.640 --> 00:15:15.360 It had all these resources and wealth and everything else, and it's like, yeah, pe- politicians talk like, "Oh, Britain's gonna reach new heights." Ah, you're not really gonna get higher than that. 00:15:15.400 --> 00:15:22.311 You No Are you gonna, are you gonna retake India or you know, but there, there's just no hope. 00:15:22.400 --> 00:15:31.660 And now you've got-- It's now in this, like, debt cycle where there's just, there's no escape from that without something really, really major. 00:15:32.341 --> 00:15:33.110 Um- Yeah. 00:15:33.331 --> 00:15:43.311 Like in, you know, inventing how to travel by black hole to some other universe where Britain is still prosper- prosperous and didn't partake in World War II. 00:15:43.311 --> 00:15:46.216 It just sort of sat back and- Probably … kept its stiff. 00:15:46.216 --> 00:15:51.451 Um, but- Or didn't have wacky economic policies for decades that absolutely crippled it. 00:15:52.130 --> 00:15:52.630 Yeah. 00:15:52.660 --> 00:15:52.841 Yeah. 00:15:52.841 --> 00:15:59.682 I mean, to be fair, and it's a whole other episode, and we'll, we'll wrap it up here 'cause I'm sure there's gonna be plenty about Burnham and the government over the coming weeks, but it w- World War II gutted the UK. 00:15:59.682 --> 00:16:05.630 Like before that it was the, you know, that was the, the, the nail in the coffin. 00:16:05.630 --> 00:16:14.581 World War I wasn't great, but World War II just totally gutted us in terms of resources and everything else and, and there really- Yeah … is no way back from that. 00:16:14.630 --> 00:16:22.691 So anyway, on that happy note, ladies and gentlemen, if you've enjoyed it, give us a like, subscribe, and we will be here for the next piece of news.