83. Not Everything's Worth Optimizing의 전체 녹취록

just I'm it is just insane, dude. 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:09.839 Yeah. 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:19.199 I mean my dumbass has made two apps, they're not beautiful or anything, and they're not certainly not done, but I'm just like yeah, blown away by the case. 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:25.360 I mean, I just I've not like I'm not uh really trying to make apps in any way. 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:30.480 It's just a fun thing like to make things that I use. 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:30.959 Yes. 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:35.439 We've been talking about the weather station since I think even before Chad GPT became a thing. 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:35.839 Yes. 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:39.279 I think you mentioned it even before I gave you that CRT. 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:40.879 You talked about something like that. 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:41.680 Definitely. 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:49.839 And you I picked up that Apple monitor hoping that that one would serve as the monitor for your Weather Station idea. 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:50.240 Yeah. 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:55.199 And it didn't work out, but well, we finally got it, yeah, which is cool. 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:56.480 Um Man. 00:05:56.720 --> 00:06:06.399 No, I mean it's just and then like all of the apps are just production stuff that I needed and like couldn't afford to pay StudioBinder for or you know, some bullshit. 00:06:06.480 --> 00:06:12.000 Oh, I'm gonna pay a subscription to Adobe so I can watermark my scripts that I need to send out. 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:12.800 Yeah. 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:15.360 Um so yeah. 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:16.720 I don't oh, I want to show you. 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:25.519 The board. 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:31.199 The board. 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:37.199 First of all, just good old-fashioned courier new. 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:48.480 Good old-fashioned courier new in a word processor, and then you copy the page and it gives it a nice like little Yeah, little texture. 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:50.399 Just makes it feel a little lighter. 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:51.040 Yeah. 00:06:51.519 --> 00:06:52.800 The paper feels good too. 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:54.480 It's just Amazon paper. 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:57.040 Yeah, it feels like old or something. 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:02.240 Excuse me. 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:14.079 For uh for those listening, what I handed Matt was a flyer. 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:16.319 They're like, what is what happened? 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:22.879 It's a flyer um for a little kind of I guess project that I'm working on. 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:37.120 Um so to give a little bit of context, if if you're listening or if you've like listened in the last couple of weeks and things are all over the place, it's like, oh, what is what the heck is going on? 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:52.879 What's um I've been doing like a ton of random things and really the high level of what I'm doing is so like part of my brain does work in like systems. 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:58.240 I think I'm a I don't know why that is, but it just kind of thinks in systems. 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:12.639 And so um one thing I've been really trying to do in the past year, I mean the past decade, but really getting you know serious and trying to like move forward on it in the past year has been getting films made. 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:29.439 And there's a lot of hurdles to that in Omaha, and so my brain has kind of been trying to uh what like take the fire out of some of those hurdles, like um uh you know, what like take down some of those hurdles. 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:39.440 Um and usually the hurdles with any kind of like you have crew that there's just not a lot of it. 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:50.320 You have money, there's not a lot of it, you have talent, whether that's acting, I guess crew also kind of, but I guess acting talent purely. 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:53.279 I think those are like maybe the biggest bottlenecks. 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:53.919 I don't know, Matt. 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:56.000 You're yeah you know it just as well as I do. 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:56.960 What what'd you say? 00:08:57.279 --> 00:08:58.720 I I would say so too. 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:07.440 And um you know, for what you want to set out to do, you know, those are you know big obstacles to overcome. 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:07.919 Yeah. 00:09:08.159 --> 00:09:12.480 The need for a lot of people to be involved in making something. 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:15.679 And by a lot, it could be eight, you know. 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:19.519 I'm not talking about 30-person crews and cast and crews. 00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:20.080 Yeah. 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:26.000 I'm not saying you can't get anything done in Omaha, I'm just saying you want crews. 00:09:27.279 --> 00:09:39.039 I mean, you want to work with people who you trust, yeah, and who have a certain level of competency and who share, you know, certain tastes with you and um can see things. 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:45.679 And but yeah, long story short, I've been trying to like fix these bottlenecks. 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:50.960 Um personally, I mean, yes, personally, but also just for the entire group. 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:55.360 I mean, you're building anything, everybody is able to kind of take advantage of that. 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:59.440 And it's the thing Matt and I have talked about forever with like photography specifically and things like that. 00:09:59.840 --> 00:10:03.120 Um but yeah, just trying to do it. 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:27.519 So whether that's you know, you design really easy to use, you know, systems that kind of m make templated information a little easier to access and kind of bring everybody up to a certain baseline, or like what I handed Matt, for instance, is uh flyer that I'm working on for a uh an acting workshop to try to build that out. 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:29.440 Yeah, that's good stuff. 00:10:29.679 --> 00:10:33.840 Um but yeah, so uh yeah, what did you what did you think of that?

00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:35.279 I think it's great. 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:41.279 I want it, I my what I would fucking love is to get Matt in an acting workshop. 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:44.000 I've never seen the man act around, I try. 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:50.559 I mean, I I have a lot less um sort of fear and self-consciousness about it. 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:53.600 The hardest part for me is memorizing the lines, yeah. 00:10:53.679 --> 00:11:01.440 Yeah, I and then like when I make uh an effort to, then I get afraid that I'm gonna forget them. 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:04.720 And so then I'm managing remembering lines, I'm not acting. 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:09.919 Yeah, and that is an obstacle that I've really never been able to get past. 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:26.720 The only time I really felt like it worked was doing it cinema style because usually the coverage was relatively, you know, even in the master, the scene wasn't some four-page short play that I had a memory, you know, all that. 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:29.360 It was, you know, the some of the stuff I did was more bite-sized. 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:42.720 Now, obviously, some scripts are that way and it would be daunting, but at least with on set and a camera, even though it is high stakes, money, time, you know, getting through the setup list and all that stuff, it's less pressure than a live theater. 00:11:42.960 --> 00:11:54.159 Well, I'd love to go over some of the thoughts I have, not live, but um yeah, I've kind of like pulled down some source material, laid out like a a syllabus for what the 10 weeks would look like. 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:54.559 Yeah. 00:11:54.799 --> 00:12:00.639 Um I think I want to aim for like 12 people, just because it's a pretty manageable room. 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:00.879 Yeah. 00:12:01.039 --> 00:12:02.639 And if you get less, it's okay. 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:18.240 Um, but and then like some pretty strict rules about like, hey, if you're up for a scene with a scene partner and you don't show, obviously, if it's like a you know, something happened with my kid or something understandable, and we'll have a backup. 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:26.320 But if it's just like I didn't feel like coming in, then it's you know, you you you get or I wasn't prepared, so I just yeah, yeah, made something. 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:37.600 I think you get one like one opportunity, but yeah, definitely trying to push for the and I don't know if this line is a little too much, but which one the last one here, yeah. 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:50.000 I I I just I want to push that that hey, like you're gonna come in here, and we're not judging like, oh well, this was good, or this was it's it's like no, we're just what was there more creative potential there? 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:51.679 Did was it believable? 00:12:51.840 --> 00:13:02.240 Yeah, did it feel truthful in the way that that this is supposed to, or like not that it has to be a realist performance all the time, but you know, basically, what were you going for? 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:04.240 Do we feel like you hit that? 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:11.279 Well, and really honestly, are you even touching on what you know acting? 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:18.879 Like, like again, I went through four years of acting school, and most of the time I was just a person who was tr managing the memorization of lines. 00:13:19.039 --> 00:13:20.000 Yeah, yeah. 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:29.120 And I would maybe have a performance quality that I would skin on top of a person trying to just get their lines out, yeah. 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:32.480 But there was no listening from the other actors going on. 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:34.240 There was no responding. 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:41.519 The only time that I actually really enjoyed live performance was when it was improv because I was an improv comedy troupe. 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:44.799 Because that's just you more than anything, in a in a sense. 00:13:45.200 --> 00:14:02.240 Well, you know, and it you know, you you you know, it was comedy, so you have to be, you know, you have to be thinking about the decisions, the choices that you make, and the opportunities you create, leading to greater and greater um drama, but with with things being funny. 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:12.879 Um and really listening to your your scene partners when that flash of an idea comes in your brain in a nanosecond moving on that. 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:27.519 Uh, and that was more exhilarating for me because while there's preparation for improv comedy and practice and all that stuff, I'm not coming in with like all this stress and anxiety about what what was my line after? 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:28.720 What's the cute what's the line? 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:29.360 Where do I go? 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:30.559 Where do I almost my block? 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:34.559 I almost hesitate to call it like an acting workshop because performance workshop. 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:39.600 It's more like like you want to get to not non-acting, right? 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:43.200 You want to get to like you embodying the character. 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:43.759 Yeah. 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:45.120 Um, so I don't know. 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:47.120 I'll um there's time to work on it. 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:52.080 I want to get it the flyers out relatively soon just because the year's going quick. 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:53.759 But um is it ever? 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:56.480 But yeah, that's the idea. 00:14:56.720 --> 00:14:57.840 Um, it's funny. 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:02.960 I took an improv class in I guess in like middle school or high school or something. 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:03.759 I don't know. 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:04.879 It was a lot of fun. 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:07.200 We had a good good improv teacher. 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:08.000 Yeah. 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:09.840 I never got nervous for improvement. 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:10.320 We used to watch. 00:15:11.039

--> 00:15:14.320 Uh I used to watch uh the Drew Carey show. 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:14.559 Yep. 00:15:14.720 --> 00:15:15.600 Whose line is it anyways? 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:17.039 Whose line is anyway, I did too. 00:15:17.200 --> 00:15:18.080 Yeah, it's a good show. 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:27.039 Yeah, there were a few others too, and then obviously best in show and all that is and scurbier enthusiasm is is is you know, it's tighter improv. 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:28.399 Adam McKay movies. 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:28.799 Yeah. 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:34.159 I mean, even like uh Scorsese uses a lot of improv. 00:15:34.240 --> 00:15:34.480 Yeah. 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:37.360 Yeah, he he really encourages Yeah, he loves improv. 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:46.320 Yeah, what you know you know, he I think all of them, Adam McKay and Scorsese are sort of like, let's get the tank that covers our bases, but then let's fuck around a little bit. 00:15:46.559 --> 00:16:01.759 Well, I mean I I I think because I mean improv, I I almost hate categorizing it as like that because like what is like the idea of a writing or of of an improv session is like you said, yeah, you're just trying to like dig into a greater dramatic hole. 00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:02.159 Yeah. 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:05.759 And then hopefully that presents something that's you can riff on. 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:06.240 Yep. 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:12.399 And there's a like bits that recur and things that happen, but that's essentially just writing also. 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:16.480 Yeah, so it's it's definitely they definitely go together. 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:17.200 Yeah. 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:22.720 Maybe it's not as tight and you don't have to like there's no editorial process to improv, but yeah. 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:30.320 But anyways, yeah, that's the this is like one of the real world things, and then obviously the scripts did the went down to the jazz thing. 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:32.639 I think that's gonna be, I think that's got legs. 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:41.120 Um and then uh yeah, I sent you another script that I wrote last week that might have some legs too. 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:49.679 And did you feel that real world feeling when you were working with the agency and doing all that? 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:51.759 Or do you think that there is dude? 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:55.200 I think I I don't even recognize that person anymore. 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:57.919 Like I I mean, like that's dumb. 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:02.080 Like that's that's that's but no, I was I I think about that really often. 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:06.559 I'm just like, what happened to like fucking three years, four years of my life? 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:15.759 Yeah, because I like I recognize this person, like the just having ideas, and also this is totally probably just a seasonal thing, yeah. 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:28.400 Like just being in that creative like headspace where I mean, but I'm literally like

every week if I'm not finishing like two or three things or getting them to like the next point on the on the whatever. 00:17:28.480 --> 00:17:30.559 I'm like, this week sucked. 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:31.440 Yep. 00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:35.359 But yeah, no, now I'm just like, oh man, I don't know. 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:37.839 I just I just want to get some real stuff made. 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:40.480 Like I'm super excited to go see this movie tonight. 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:40.880 Yeah. 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:48.799 Um, I mean this and uh um you I can see everything, the documentary, or it's both Lance. 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:50.880 What's Lance tonight? 00:17:51.359 --> 00:17:53.599 Uh it's oh it's the other, yeah. 00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:56.640 They've got like the Boomer, Boomer radio or whatever. 00:17:56.880 --> 00:17:57.039 Okay. 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:02.079 I forget now I forget what the two movies are, but they're like uh they're more just like mainstream. 00:18:02.319 --> 00:18:03.359 Yeah, it seems like it. 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:04.000 Yeah. 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:09.359 Um what Nate said, Ruth plays all the cool kid movies. 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:10.640 All the cool kids go. 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:12.160 Is Nate gonna go tonight? 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:12.640 He might. 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:14.319 Uh well, yeah, I'll text him. 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:14.720 Uh-huh. 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:20.880 Um, but what I was saying though is the the guy who directed them is is like 30. 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:24.960 Like prime time and this one that's coming out. 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:30.160 Um and yeah, I mean, I see stuff like that, and I'm like, okay, like it's it's possible. 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:34.480 Like people are able to get my like and that just really motivates me. 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:36.079 Um, and I'm excited. 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:39.920 Like, I saw the trailer for this one, and I was like immediately, I was like, oh, this looks different. 00:18:40.160 --> 00:18:41.920 I saw like with the digger trailer and everything. 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:52.079 I was just like, man, like there's just a feeling you get of like being on the periphery of something where cool stuff is happening, and you're like, I want to get into the pool, like let me in. 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:52.559 Yeah. 00:18:52.799 --> 00:18:56.160 Um, so yeah, that's a real sense. 00:18:56.240 --> 00:18:57.759 So maybe that has something to do with it. 00:18:58.079 --> 00:18:58.319 Yeah. 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:00.319 Um to create cool stuff too. 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:01.680 Yeah, no, for sure. 00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:05.440 I mean, it's just like that's that's all I want to do, is just like get in and like make stuff. 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:11.039 I will say, back to that question about the agency stuff. 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:16.720 I have felt since you started doing all this stuff, I'm like, Alex is back. 00:19:17.599 --> 00:19:18.880 He's back, baby. 00:19:19.359

--> 00:19:20.799 I just went away for four years. 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:34.559 And that doesn't mean that you weren't fun, we didn't have great conversations, I didn't enjoy your company, but I really felt a sense of loss with the YouTube thing, and I thought it was Did you feel like I was like this before the agency? 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:48.400 And I like I'm just curious as to your we would basically we would have lots of things where we would get ideas, whether it was you as an individual, us together, me as an individual, we would riff on them and we would get amped about them. 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:54.720 And you know, sometimes they'd fizzle, we wouldn't see them through, whatever, but there was an excitement and energy about that. 00:19:55.119 --> 00:20:08.079 Um and then when you were doing your YouTube stuff, you know, I could tell that you it wasn't like it wasn't like this necessarily, even though you need time away from this to like press whatever and then get back into it. 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:08.799 Yeah. 00:20:09.039 --> 00:20:22.880 Um but there always was sort of like a dark cloud over the YouTube stuff because I could just tell that it wasn't the the right way for you to express your creativity and make things and all that stuff. 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:34.559 I think a lot of it was, but there's too many other forces at play and things that can suck you in, temptations, all of that stuff that can take what you're doing and trap you. 00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:34.880 Yeah. 00:20:35.119 --> 00:20:37.279 By okay, well, my channel did get successful. 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:49.279 Now I have to make stuff that's like this because it's how I earn a living, and then you end up just kind of ghosting your way through that experience, and you're not really truly inspired, you're just kind of going through the motions. 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:49.519 Yeah. 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:52.960 And you know, stuff like that could happen with something like that's what happened at the agency. 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:54.160 Yeah, I think so too. 00:20:54.559 --> 00:21:01.279 And so when you started doing this stuff, and it's oh, come here, come see this, come check this out, or like today, like, or yesterday. 00:21:01.359 --> 00:21:03.680 You're well, I got a surprise for you. 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:11.599 I want to I want to hear your reaction to, I mean, I guess I heard it this morning, but yeah, like what I was so excited about that. 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:16.000 Like, I was more excited about that than maybe anything that I've done so far. 00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:16.720 I don't know why. 00:21:16.799 --> 00:21:18.480 I was just like, this is so cool. 00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:22.960 Like just seeing all the tapes on the thing, and I was just like, this is so cool. 00:21:23.279 --> 00:21:31.920 Well, and not that we've talked about it in the sense of having had like design the website or whatever, but we've talked about analog with this podcast. 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:39.680 It'd be cool to put some episodes on VHS and hide them in a thrift store and see what happens or audio cassettes, all that kind of stuff. 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:40.799 You know, we've talked about all this stuff. 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:48.720 I talked about WinAmp, but we've talked about retro websites, and I told you about my experiences coding from scratch, all my GeoCities sites. 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:53.440 First thing Aaron said when I showed her the website oh my god, this feels like my old Geo Cities websites. 00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:54.079 Yeah. 00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:55.680 No, that was definitely the vibe. 00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:56.960 And I was like, Oh yeah. 00:21:57.119 --> 00:21:57.920 Yeah, yeah. 00:21:58.240 --> 00:22:02.400 Slip into it, baby, because It is all the vibes you want. 00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:07.680 The the the um GIFs, I don't know what they are, the Seinfeld and the Dude. 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:09.359 My favorite one is on our admin. 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:10.000 Shining. 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:18.079 Like when you log into the admin, so there's a little like dashboard that basically just says, like, hey, everything's linking, everything's pulling correctly, whatever. 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:19.920 If there's an issue, it'll flag it. 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:21.279 But it's all automated. 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:22.079 Yeah. 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:26.720 Um and it's the office space GIF where he's like drilling his shit. 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:33.359 And then he kicks it back and he just goes, It's my favorite. 00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:35.119 So good. 00:22:35.359 --> 00:22:43.519 Well, and I think I think the way I look at it too, when I see the website, you know, and I and I'm, you know, obviously part of me is like, you know, because I have a surprise for you. 00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:47.599 Like Wendy, like like Jack says to Wendy, I've got a surprise for you. 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:49.680 Watched that movie last night. 00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:50.240 It was great. 00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:50.960 So good. 00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:55.680 TC every Thursday, by the way, for anybody listening, because this episode's gonna get power packed. 00:22:55.839 --> 00:22:56.240 Oh, yeah. 00:22:56.400 --> 00:23:03.359 Or power, it's gonna get put out there quickly because it's our yeah, we're we're at the edge. 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:09.279 Um but great Kubrick podcast on TCM plot thickens. 00:23:09.599 --> 00:23:10.400 Like description. 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:13.359 Yeah, well, if if I we remember to add that. 00:23:13.759 --> 00:23:14.960 Um I'll forget. 00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:16.799 Definitely recommend checking that out. 00:23:17.119 --> 00:23:20.559 But then also, um, and this has been playing the whole time, I didn't realize that. 00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:24.640 We should probably you could probably cut it, but um yeah, I'll cut it off in a second. 00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:25.440 Sorry, I got distracted.

00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:35.279 But it's like every Thursday night this October, um it's Kubrick month or whatever. 00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:35.839 Yeah. 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:36.799 I think it's October. 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:37.440 Oh man. 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:49.599 Yeah, no, it's it's it's onward because this is the last you know, I'm speaking right now, now that I think of it, it might actually be have been like all through September. 00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:52.000 Oh, like like we're coming to the end of it. 00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:52.559 You know what? 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:55.759 Either way, next Thursday, it's definitely gonna be uh Kubrick Night. 00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:56.880 If you have TCM, throw it on. 00:23:57.119 --> 00:24:06.079 Like this coming Thursday, and less than so like last night was the shining, and then I got sucked into full metal jacket and then eyes wide shut to wrap the night. 00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:09.599 Um I have not had that on VHS in the shop. 00:24:09.839 --> 00:24:10.240 So good. 00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:17.279 I have two copies, I have a sealed copy and a regular copy, but it's not in the shop. 00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:21.359 And the one copy of Full Metal Jacket, I think we pulled it last week. 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:21.759 Yeah. 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:23.279 Oh, this is cool. 00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:26.799 Which by the way, everybody's looking looking at the the VHS. 00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:28.400 We should uh situation. 00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:42.640 We should I I want to like find a higher thing to like like I think some bigger creative takeaways from this conversation are like just having a lot of like embers in the fire. 00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:42.960 Yeah. 00:24:43.119 --> 00:24:46.160 Um irons in the fire, embers in the fire. 00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:51.119 Stoking or uh I was I was thinking stokes, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:53.039 And then I was like, I don't know. 00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:57.200 Anyways, um, yeah, a lot of irons in the fire. 00:24:57.279 --> 00:25:02.000 Uh sometimes like maybe that can be good for creativity. 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:02.799 Yeah. 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:05.039 Um I don't know, man. 00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:14.880 I I I want to take this to a like I want to make sure we're not getting too niche into like the very specific, like, oh, this is happening and then somebody's listening. 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:18.400 Like I have no application of anything to do with that. 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:20.079 You want to, yeah, too micro. 00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:22.480 Anyways, though, uh, really quickly on the micro. 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:25.440 Yeah, we did like the criteria. 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:29.839 It was like the dusty criterion closet or the dirty criterion closet. 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:31.039 Well, hold on a second. 00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:41.200 Uh before you go on that thread, because we I don't feel like we wrapped up the website thing, and I don't want to spend a lot

of time on it, but um you were asking about my reaction to when you unveiled the website. 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:41.839 Oh, yeah, yeah. 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:46.160 And I feel like that might be hanging out there for people listening or watching, just to button it up. 00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:46.799 Wrap that up. 00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:48.480 And then we'll go into the that thing. 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:50.559 This is how my brain is working, yeah. 00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:52.960 Which is not, yeah, it's like very methy. 00:25:53.680 --> 00:26:13.279 I was I wrote this, the draft for Audrey this morning, and she's like, she's like, sometimes just depending, like sometimes you'll just write really like your ideas are just jumping all over the place, and you're and it shows up in the writing, and it's hard to read because you have to figure out how you got and sorry to rework. 00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:35.839 I I don't think that's my state all the time, but it's definitely I have had that so bad lately that I will write a sentence in a message or something, pause to think about something for a minute, 90 seconds, continue writing the message, and then I say again what I said two lines earlier because I forgot that I said it. 00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:41.200 You're like, oh and then I send the message or whatever, and I'm like memo took me like four drafts. 00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:46.240 That should have taken me like five seconds at a typewriter. 00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:48.079 I'm just like okay. 00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:54.960 It literally went through four drafts to get it where with like the red pin and doing the markup and okay, but the website. 00:26:55.200 --> 00:27:04.000 And I like that you're in this bing bing bing bing state because I feel like it's a it's more aligned with me selfishly, with like I gotta be here, and then I gotta go do this, and then do this. 00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:17.119 Like I'm just all these irons in the fire, and it's fun, and it's what and sometimes it's challenging, but it's just it's fun to see you go like I got this thing, and then I got the movie, and then I got this, and this app, and like all this, it's it's exciting. 00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:23.759 Yeah, well, I mean, I know there's some negatives, but you have to do that when you're yeah, you're just like looking for yeah. 00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:25.599 Okay, so the website. 00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:28.960 What I Oh, by the way, studio sessions pod.com. 00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:29.839 Yes, go there. 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:41.200 Like honestly, if that's the only way you interacted with the pod from now until the end of time, that would probably be the best because it is the best experience, I think, available on the internet to interact with this podcast. 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:52.319 Well, now that I'm thinking about it, not just the update to the episode description, but every episode from the past needs to have the URL at the top of it in the description on YouTube. 00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:55.119 The oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:55.440 Yeah. 00:27:56.319 --> 00:28:01.920 Well, and we need to change the actual URL on the YouTube page because right now it goes to like the Spotify. 00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:04.960 Well, we I wonder if we have that too. 00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:08.240 You know, if people I would just take it out because it's all on the website. 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:10.720 And just go to the website, it's super easy to find the Apple Music. 00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:12.720 Okay. 00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:13.680 Yep. 00:28:14.079 --> 00:28:18.240 Um, so you told me I got a surprise for you. 00:28:18.319 --> 00:28:21.279 I'm guessing what it is, guessing wrong. 00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:22.319 Um, nothing. 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:25.039 Well, we had like guessing we had like seven things hanging out there. 00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:25.759 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:28.880 There's a bunch of things out there, and I'm guessing wrong, I'm not thinking big enough. 00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:40.559 And so Alex calls me today, tells me to get on the computer, sends a link through the messenger app, and I pull it up, and it's a new website for this podcast. 00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:55.759 And it's like the dream website, in the sense that it is retro and full of, you know, just the look of it is exactly like it's pulled out of my brain, um, my and the past. 00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:11.599 And the imagery that I get is when working with you on this stuff, it's like all of the things that I'm not that you are, and all of the things that you are that I am, and vice versa, with me, converge in this one place. 00:29:11.759 --> 00:29:12.240 Yeah, yeah. 00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:17.440 And I get to see a visual representation of our differences and our similarities. 00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:23.039 But even like our differences are complementary, not oppositional. 00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:26.559 Yeah, you can do things and think of things that I can't. 00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:28.000 It's a cool, it's a cool side. 00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:29.599 I'm super happy with it. 00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:42.000 And so when I look at that side, yeah, this is this is a this is a representation of like if there was a drawing that described that feeling I have with you, it would be it. 00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:42.559 Yeah. 00:29:42.799 --> 00:30:04.240 Well, so when I was when I was like finishing that and finally getting it live and looking at it, like it's definitely a cold, like everything I'm doing is like it almost feels like you know, I've been working for like the last decade of my life, and it's easy to think like, oh man, like I've just been wasting, yeah, wasting time, wasting whatever. 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:14.640 But I really think I've just been like just putting shit into a bucket and then like dragging that bucket, and it gets bigger and bigger and bigger. 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:23.119 And I it feels like right now in

this season of my life, whatever this is, this like six, twelve, what you know, however many months this ends up being, yeah. 00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:33.759 I'm just like dumping out all of the contents of that bucket because like my website, I found this sketch that I made in 2022 that's literally my website. 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:41.440 Like it said flamingo at the top instead of made by Alex, but you know, literally laid out just like my website. 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:43.920 Yeah, and so that became my website. 00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:47.440 Oh, it took you know years to get there, but finally became that. 00:30:47.759 --> 00:31:02.400 Um, you know, I'm like finishing these scripts, or like I mean, having ideas like the one I sent you, like there were like five different ideas that had been ringing around in my head that I never knew how to connect, and then I had the one idea that connected them all. 00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:02.640 Yep. 00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:07.359 And then it comes out, and it's like, okay, well, there's five, it's like playing Tetris. 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:09.519 I was playing Tetris the other day at the shop. 00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:17.599 Um, but yeah, I'm like clear, like brrrrrr, the little area clears out when you get the blocks right. 00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:52.640 And um I mean, this was like a there was a thing called Middle West Acting Company, and I was like, oh, I want it to be, and it's now it's like starting to manifest in this, and like the films, and um, but like with our website, it's yeah, it's like a combination of things that I learned doing mine, like um the Zettel casting, like all of the ideas, and I was just like, how like you know, obviously, you could just do like oh you click to play, but I was like, let no, I this needs to be there's no point in making a website, in my opinion. 00:31:52.720 --> 00:31:57.119 I mean, there's definitely a point of just like, hey, here's where all of this information is in one place. 00:31:57.200 --> 00:31:57.359 Right. 00:31:57.599 --> 00:31:59.519 That's a that's a valid use case. 00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:01.359 But we already have that. 00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:05.200 Yeah, so there was no point in making a website if it was just like here's a custom version of this. 00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:08.559 But like with this thing, I mean, it is literally like everything's on there. 00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:11.039 You can do anything related to the podcast from there. 00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:18.799 We can put stuff in the store, we can do limited runs of stuff, we can do, we can make announcements, we can, you know, put guests on there. 00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:24.640 But it also has every literally every word that's ever been spoken on 96 hours of this podcast. 00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:26.160 Every word is searchable. 00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:39.599 So you can like if you're like thinking of an idea or an artist or uh a piece of work or anything, and you're like, oh, I wonder what have they ever talked about this, or what are their thoughts on this, or whatever. 00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:45.039 Not even like not even like what like it's not like you would want my thoughts. 00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:51.119 Like these are just I I whenever we're doing this, I feel like it's just ideas being channeled a lot of the time. 00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:59.599 And you know, sometimes it's very of the moment, but you can just explore that and you can see exactly, oh man, let's hear what this episode had to say about it. 00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:01.440 You can see how our thoughts have changed over time. 00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:17.200 You can literally search something and be like, oh, and it'll graph out every episode over time, over three years, three and a half years of when XYZ was mentioned, and you could just track that and make a mixtape for however long that is, which is also really cool. 00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:21.440 And then you can just track how our thoughts have progressed on that idea over time. 00:33:21.839 --> 00:33:24.960 So, yeah, I mean it's pretty, it's pretty cool. 00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:34.000 Yeah, I I I'm just like I it's it's the website I've all I would have I've always wanted to like go to. 00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:42.480 And that's the beauty of you carrying those little moments or thoughts with everything you've consumed in your life up to this point. 00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:51.839 You track what those things aren't, yeah, like what they have and what what they what they don't have, what's missing, like oh, I wish it was like this or I wish it did that. 00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:52.079 Yeah. 00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:56.960 Consciously and subconsciously collecting all those things, and then obviously collecting all the things that you do like. 00:33:57.119 --> 00:34:09.679 I like this about this product, I like this about this website, I like this, and it all just gets immediately pulled up out of your consciousness and subconsciousness into this design of this thing, and it feels like that. 00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:16.719 It's like literally every everything you've thought of about, and obviously you're gonna have other iterations or designs. 00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:19.679 Maybe there's something that we're like, eh, that doesn't quite work the way I hoped it would. 00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:21.199 I'm gonna scratch it, you know, whatever. 00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:37.440 Yeah, but it's it's it's kind of crazy to see someone present you with something that's so deeply thorough, but not complex and overstuffed, and you know, it's so I'm very happy with it. 00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:41.360 Yeah, there's restraint and editing that goes into it, you know. 00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:46.719 Whereas, you know, I struggle with just like, well, I I thought it up, so I like it. 00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:52.719 I'm gonna keep everything I can in there, and it's just jam-packed and yeah, overwhelming for the consumer of it. 00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:56.400 Um,

yeah, I mean, it just it's just great. 00:34:56.639 --> 00:34:58.000 Yeah, I'm pumped about it. 00:34:58.079 --> 00:35:00.559 I think it'll be I'll be very curious to see. 00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:01.760 It makes me want to. 00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:09.280 I mean, not that I've ever had a problem with wanting to do the podcast, but yeah, I yeah, now I'm like completely deeper level of I want to get guests. 00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:12.159 Like, you know, I think that'll make it easier to get guests. 00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:12.719 Yeah. 00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:42.159 You can just send them the website and be like, hey, like, would you we would love to have you have a guest as a guest, but uh uh completely and one guest I do want to have, and this person I haven't talked to about it yet, so I don't really want to, but I want to talk to Josh about because we had a conversation about AI, and he's kind of in that commercial field and seeing the effects of it um in a pretty significant way, it sounded like, and you know, he's a very creative person. 00:35:42.320 --> 00:36:01.039 Yeah, I mean, probably way more creative than like you and I combined in just how his and so I think it's like it's interesting to talk to somebody like that who and see how it's affecting well, especially because one of the big aspects of his creative business is food photography for restaurants. 00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:06.719 And I've already been seeing memes and posts about AI menu slop. 00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:07.039 Yeah. 00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:18.639 AI slop on menus, uh menu boards on you know, the the photographs that they show uh, you know, where you order your food or sort of get a sense of what that restaurant has is all these AI regulations. 00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:22.639 It's so funny because I have no relationship to like the slop world. 00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.920 I know it's a thing, like obviously it like the term is like iced. 00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:26.559 Yeah. 00:36:26.719 --> 00:36:51.840 Um there's been pushback on the I've seen like yeah, like I'll be at like a restaurant in Georgia and I'll be like, okay, buddy, yeah, I see you did your menu with you know and the other form that's really up there is like you know, I obviously because I do a lot of picking and all that is you know, people are using regular people are using AI to create a flyer, a digital flyer for their yard sale, state sale. 00:36:52.000 --> 00:37:01.199 And it's like I I don't know why AI uses the same basic fonts, the same, you know, it just it all looks the same. 00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:06.800 I'm seeing a lot of YouTubers using it for their thumbnails, and I have used AI for my thumbnails in the past. 00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:15.440 I like to think that part of it is like, well, for me to form truly how I feel about this, I need to try it at least. 00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:16.159 Yeah. 00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:20.320 And I don't think I'll go back to to it. 00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:20.559 Yeah. 00:37:20.719 --> 00:37:22.719 Now, would I maybe make AI make and see? 00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:27.760 I would I would argue that you're like that a lot of people are probably just not using it. 00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:30.000 I mean, you've seen some of the results I've gotten. 00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:31.360 No, no, agreed. 00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.719 I'm saying like AI made an entire thumbnail. 00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:45.280 Like make me an image of a Mac uh Mini bursting with video files because there's too much stuff stored in the hard drive. 00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:48.239 You know, like full on generation. 00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:50.880 Now I have no experience in that. 00:37:51.039 --> 00:37:58.000 Like I just don't like I I did imit we did mid-journey like years ago, yeah, but I have no experience in like using it. 00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:05.119 Now, where I like using it is I really want to use a 3D version of the final cut logo in this thumbnail. 00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:12.960 Hey, can you make me a like a so it looks three-dimensional and it does, and then I put it in my thumbnail that I photographed or pulled a still. 00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:20.480 So I do like getting assistance from it to make an element or I don't I just but generating it. 00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:24.960 I don't think I don't think Claude has a very good, I guess it's just because I've always used Claude. 00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:27.360 Well, Claude doesn't have any image generation. 00:38:27.519 --> 00:39:07.519 I tried Yeah, it doesn't, so I just never even think about so so I don't even think Claude can really like I know it has an image recognition thing, but it's not good at like so literally so I was making a change on my website and I was like trying to get an opinion on like how how should we go about changing this function and it was like a gallery thing, and it's like it's like I think you should it was talking about gates of the garden because it had access to that folder and it was like I think you should lay out gates of the garden because this is a good project because it has figures in an image or something. 00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:31.599 Like it was literally like it was like listening to somebody who just has no idea what what they're talking about, trying to bullshit like this project is good because at that moment I was just like it's it's got a long way to go before it's gonna start replacing fine art photography, which made me feel pretty good. 00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:33.360 Um but at the same time. 00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:46.639 When I tried using Claude, I told you with the text that I was it was literally like like figures in relationship to the overall image are balanced, yeah, and this is why it's good. 00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:50.079 And I was like, okay, all right. 00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:52.159 Yeah, no. 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.519 Prove me wrong, but yeah. 00:39:55.840 --> 00:40:23.360 Yeah, so I I I like the idea and of using it as an as an assist, but

there's still pushback that I might have with image generation when you I personally think of that model being trained to create elements of an image that you create mostly from scratch, even those elements are are the result of AI using copywritten material without permission to train on how to do that stuff. 00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:24.159 For sure. 00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:31.679 Um, but then also just the fact that AI has a look to it and it's hard to get it to not do the AI look. 00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:36.400 To be honest, I don't think a good use case for AI is generating images. 00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:37.199 Yeah. 00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:44.880 Um I just the the whole idea of an image is yeah, something captured. 00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:46.639 I mean, the whole idea of a photograph. 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:47.039 Yeah. 00:40:47.199 --> 00:41:02.239 I get and I get it, like I get where it's useful, but um I mean, and that's coming from somebody like I I I don't think I'm like super caught up in the like fuck AI or I like I I'm indifferent. 00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:08.639 Like I think it's very good for some things, I think it's really annoying with like how some people use it. 00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:11.440 Um AI brain is definitely a thing. 00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:15.599 Like I'm sick of talking to some people and just being like, Can you give me a real fucking thought? 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:19.039 But like, you know what, to be fair, I had that feeling before AI. 00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:26.400 Some people just default to not having, you know, not not giving their thoughts on things. 00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:49.039 Um so um, yeah, I mean, but I I've never thought photography is a great image generation use for yeah, like I I like that I went down that rabbit hole and it's allowed me to have uh I I think it's good essentially that we're there's so much pushback into AI photography. 00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:53.599 I think that's a good thing because I think it's kind of it's just kind of dumb. 00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:54.000 Yep. 00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:56.000 I mean, there's so many cool things. 00:41:56.320 --> 00:42:01.920 Literally anything that you interface with in the digital, and I know there's somebody that's like, oh well, photographs are digital. 00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:02.320 Yeah. 00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:03.119 And you know what? 00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:04.719 Maybe that's an argument for film. 00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:22.159 But well, I think too, sometimes like just keep it pure, keep it light when I've seen an example of AI being used to generate an image, and then I find out that it was AI AI because I because maybe I liked it or I thought, oh, that's interesting how that's laid out and whatever, and it didn't just scream AI to me. 00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:27.760 Yeah, like someone thoughtfully put it together or whatever they did to make it look like that. 00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:30.960 It's just kind of a bummer that it was AI, and I'll give you an

example. 00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:51.840 There was there's a there's a place, and I'm not gonna name names or call it out, but there's a place that is making bootleg versions of Hollywood movies like Obsession and Backrooms on VHS and the slip covers that they're making from cardboard and they're like VHS slip covers. 00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.039 I was looking at it and I'm like, oh, this is this looks pretty cool. 00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:59.679 Like this is, you know, it's obviously images from the movie and all that stuff, and I'm like, this isn't so bad. 00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:03.440 And then I found out it was all made with AI, and I'm like, kind of bummed you out. 00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:05.199 Not the bootlegging. 00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:07.280 I'm pro bootleg, by the way. 00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:26.320 But yeah, I mean, you know, there's something about like people passing these things around um to each other in private, uh, or just like you know, and maybe they own a copy, a digital copy to stream, or they're subscribed to a streamer to watch them um in higher definition and all that stuff. 00:43:26.480 --> 00:43:40.079 I'm just not like I don't I don't want someone like the mob did with David Bowie Records like making 600,000 copies of a record bootleg style and then selling it, you know, off you know, out of a out of a back of a bread truck. 00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:41.920 Fell off the truck, yeah. 00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:44.159 Which I have one of those bootlegs, by the way. 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:46.159 That's awesome. 00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:48.480 Yeah, it sounds like shit. 00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:51.280 I mean the Dylan bootlegs are like legendary. 00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:56.239 The Dylan bootlegs became their own like culture, yeah, like subculture. 00:43:56.400 --> 00:43:59.199 But and I you know, one thing I do love are bootleg t shirts. 00:43:59.360 --> 00:43:59.760 I I do think. 00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:07.119 I think like the one thing that really, really I mean, not a lot gets me emotional one way or another regarding AI. 00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:19.360 Because typically when everybody's over invested emotionally, like culturally, whenever like society as a whole, it's my my general thing is just like, okay, let them do that. 00:44:19.440 --> 00:44:21.599 That's probably not something worth being involved in. 00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:22.719 Let them, yep. 00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:28.880 Um, and maybe that's just like anti-crowd or whatever, but that's just kind of I think. 00:44:29.119 --> 00:44:42.639 Um but whenever sometimes like people will use AI to write like something personal, like a you know, retirement letter or like a you know, like a like a personal letter to a friend or something. 00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:47.519 And what are they called when like you have a teacher write a letter for you for college or whatever? 00:44:47.840 --> 00:44:48.719 A recommendation letter. 00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:50.559 And even that I get a little bit. 00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:55.440 Like if you're a teacher at a university and you've got like 30 recommendation letters, fuck and let AI do it. 00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:56.159 That's fine. 00:44:56.480 --> 00:45:06.079 But like there's I think a distinction that needs to be made between I'm doing this because this is like an enjoyable part of the human experience. 00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:06.480 Yeah. 00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:11.599 Like I'm writing to better understand what I how I feel about things or what I think. 00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:20.320 Or I'm taking this photograph to better understand, you know, my place in the world and like my perspective of the universe. 00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:26.960 And and using AI for those things is just kind of like I don't know, it's like wasted potential or something. 00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:27.679 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:28.480 It's just like, yeah. 00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:30.639 And we need that kind of exertion. 00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:31.039 Yeah. 00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:38.079 Um yeah, like you can you can outsource your, I mean, already you can probably outsource a lot of your shit to this stuff. 00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:40.559 And it's just you know what? 00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:47.920 Like, we you gotta realize that not everything's worth fucking optimizing or outsourcing or doing quickly. 00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:51.760 Like like Yeah, getting it over with. 00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:56.880 Like this was a pain in the ass, and yes, I'm upset that it didn't take me like 20 minutes to write it. 00:45:57.360 --> 00:45:58.480 But you know what? 00:45:58.880 --> 00:45:59.760 It means more. 00:45:59.840 --> 00:46:00.639 I think it looks cool. 00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:04.960 I picked the font, I like had the layout, and yeah, you made it. 00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:08.239 Yeah, it's just like okay, like you can feel good about that. 00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:11.599 This is the layout for all of the studio sessions emails, by the way. 00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:12.480 Beautiful. 00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:20.079 It's literally just like the episode title and the hyperlink, and it's like, here's the four episodes that have come out since the last email. 00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:21.280 Yeah, it looks great. 00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:22.960 So, anyways. 00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:24.079 Sorry for that. 00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:27.440 I have to get you my my font to see what you think about that one. 00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:33.519 Uh, not that it would take this over, but so you can uh have that as a possibility if you like the way it looks. 00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:36.400 This is courier new, so this is a classic. 00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:40.159 Pretty close to the the font on my uh Selectric too. 00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:48.320 I just wish like when you could like have a version of the font where it just gives the edges just a touch of roughness to them. 00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:49.360 Not crazy. 00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:52.639 Well, so it's almost

like you've got to copied this magnifying. 00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:54.559 If I copied this, it would give that effect. 00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:55.440 So this is a printed. 00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:58.800 But why can't we have fonts that just instead of bold italics? 00:46:58.960 --> 00:46:59.280 I don't know though. 00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:02.800 There's something like there was something cool about making that copy today. 00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:03.519 Yeah, I hear. 00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:04.719 I was like, oh man. 00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:05.199 Yeah. 00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:05.679 Okay. 00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:06.800 This is kind of fun. 00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:08.000 Making copies. 00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:09.360 Making copies. 00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:12.480 Yeah, copy copy machines are gonna be the next thing that makes a comeback. 00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:13.199 Oh, dude. 00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:15.519 Xerox my butt with furnace as I see. 00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:18.239 I mean, copy machines are freaking cool, man. 00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:21.199 Like any image you can put in. 00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:22.239 I mean, I've got one. 00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:27.760 Well, can we program a big weird old copy machine to do with it's just cool though. 00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:31.119 Like you could do layouts and things like that and just make copies of it. 00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:36.719 And like you can make custom posters, and yeah, there's just a lot of cool shit that you can do with copy machine. 00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:40.639 We're gonna You need to start a copying machine YouTube channel. 00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:41.840 Can't do it. 00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:43.199 Can't do it. 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:48.000 I uh when I made that video a couple weeks ago, where I was like, I'm gonna be making more videos. 00:47:48.239 --> 00:47:49.119 I haven't made one. 00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:49.920 No, I'm not. 00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:50.719 I might. 00:47:50.800 --> 00:47:51.679 I'm gonna make some more. 00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:52.079 I don't know. 00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:52.960 At some point. 00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:53.519 At some point. 00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:57.199 Did you want to go to back to the VHS thing? 00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:00.480 So but our audience isn't hanging out there with that. 00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:03.440 For criterion experience. 00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:03.840 Oh, yeah. 00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:06.320 The Dirty Criterion Closet. 00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:07.920 The Dirty Criterion Closet. 00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:08.639 Yeah, yeah. 00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:09.440 You want to wrap on that? 00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:11.039 We got about five more minutes. 00:48:11.519 --> 00:48:11.760 Five. 00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:13.519 So we're going to see a movie after this. 00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:15.679 Um, so I guess that's why we're rushing through. 00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.360 And I was at work uh until like 6 30. 00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:20.400 You're doing retail. 00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:22.079 Yeah,

moving my retail gig. 00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:22.400 Yeah. 00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:24.159 It was so fun in the shop tonight. 00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:25.440 Luis came in. 00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:26.960 I I wanted to make it down there. 00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:28.239 It just kept like dragging. 00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:30.239 Yeah, you got caught up. 00:48:31.039 --> 00:48:32.320 It's a haul down there too. 00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:35.280 And then uh it's a bit, it's a it's a hike. 00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:39.360 But yeah, starting to see the regulars come in, Luis came in. 00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:42.639 Um it's just yeah, it's just good vibes. 00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:47.440 And then people, I just the best thing is like how I reacted to your website and how people are gonna react. 00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:50.719 And obviously, this is this is all Josh, you know. 00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:53.679 I have stuff in the shop, but it's his it's the inside of his brain. 00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:54.480 His brain. 00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:57.199 But when people walk in, they're like, Yeah, yeah. 00:48:57.599 --> 00:49:06.960 And for the people listening, I have this kind of like awe-struck face where literally, and I I know it's their first time. 00:49:07.039 --> 00:49:08.239 Is this your guys' first time in? 00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:10.079 Yeah, yeah, we didn't know, you know, we didn't know about this. 00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:10.719 This is cool. 00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:13.360 Well, it's it's very different too from Workshop and Joe's. 00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:13.679 Yeah, yeah. 00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:17.199 It has a bit more of a um a refined quality. 00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:17.599 Yeah. 00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:18.800 Workshop is nice. 00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:19.760 Yeah, absolutely. 00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:21.280 It's just a different store. 00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:35.440 Well, and uh, there's almost uh like a you could argue in comparison to Josh's shop's sort of minimalist and uh aesthetic to workshop in comparison where Josh's is like mm, you know, just packed to the gills and a very precise photography studio. 00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:37.360 Let's get all of it. 00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:40.000 Well, this uh this app's gonna pay for all of it, buddy. 00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:42.159 It's gonna make all our dreams come true, buddy. 00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:44.239 Sports ticker Wall Street. 00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:46.159 Um buddy, I'm telling you. 00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:50.320 The Gordon Gecko style Wall Street app would be fun. 00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:51.360 That would be fun. 00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:51.840 Yeah. 00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:58.000 Um so at the shop last week, I've been covering the shop last weekend and this weekend. 00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:00.880 And I'm not sure if the last episode will go out or not. 00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:04.800 Or I mean it will at some point if the audio is good, but we're still trying to determine that. 00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.039 So they might have context,

they might not. 00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:27.360 But um, I've been covering the shop while Josh is on vacation, and Alex and Alex and Audrey came in, and then Alex Bohan, another you know, friend of ours with very similar interests and passions, film school grad, you know, um, very knowledgeable, encyclopedic knowledge of film and music. 00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:29.519 Eclectic encyclopedia. 00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:29.920 Yeah. 00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:30.639 Yeah. 00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:36.320 Um he came in not knowing Alex, this Alex was gonna be there. 00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:43.760 And we just sort of, I don't know if it was pre-planned or if we just on the podcast a little bit. 00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:45.119 Yes, I've talked we talked about it. 00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:47.920 Like that was the birth of the idea of like, oh, we're gonna do right. 00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:58.800 Because we talked about organizing by genre and getting it hyper-organized, and Josh really likes it loose where people are digging through to try to find something because he thinks they're gonna find something that they didn't realize they wanted. 00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:01.440 Which is great if you have a small shelf. 00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:02.159 Yeah. 00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:10.000 Josh has like seven shelves of seven shelves, and there's probably a couple, I don't know, two of two thousand VHS in there. 00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:10.559 There's a lot. 00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:12.079 There's a lot, it's a lot. 00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:19.440 So um since Josh wasn't here, I'm like, we can do whatever the whatever we want with the V with the VHS. 00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.000 Let's not reorganize all of them because it'll take all day. 00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:23.119 But let's do it. 00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:37.599 Let's do staff picks where it's Alex and Alex and me um come up with our top not necessarily our top ten movies of all time, but like 10 movies we love a lot just like in the shop. 00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:43.280 The idea was like 10 movies that we would recommend somebody watch that they'll probably have a good time with it. 00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:43.599 Yeah. 00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:53.280 And then we created a section with that set that's called Worth the Watch, where it was like a little bit more under the radar movies that you know most people aren't gonna know about and that we recommend. 00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:55.119 I I think I have them somewhere too. 00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:58.239 Yeah, they're worth the watches are fun when it stars on there, yeah. 00:51:58.559 --> 00:51:58.639 Yeah. 00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:05.199 And then we did a whole other little VHS tower organizer of what we called all timers. 00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:05.599 Yeah. 00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:08.559 And you know, we're limited to what's in the shop, so we can't, yeah. 00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:17.039 Yeah, we know Casablanca, we know you know these other movies, but we have to go through what's actually there and come up with it and sort of deliberate. 00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:18.159 Is this an all timer? 00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:18.639 Yeah, yeah. 00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:33.280 You know, like yeah, you know, and and some of them we'd say we would agree and be like, nah, and then agree on the two out of three, and then yeah, like you I'd be like, or you'd be like, or Alex would be like, yeah, and be like, okay, well, it's on the list. 00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:33.760 Yep. 00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:34.239 Yeah. 00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:39.119 And so it was just a really fun, like three or four hours going through all those tapes. 00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:42.000 And uh it was literally Dusty Criterion Clock. 00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:46.800 Like it was, and if yeah, it was so much fun. 00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:55.199 Yeah, and then since we finished late Saturday afternoon, I had Sunday in the shop and then today in the shop, and then I'll have tomorrow and Sunday as well. 00:52:55.440 --> 00:53:03.039 But seeing people come in and take it in and sort of they're not reacting to it like, oh wow, look at this staff picks, this is so cool. 00:53:03.199 --> 00:53:06.000 Yeah, but they're looking at them and they're looking through them. 00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:14.079 And I think out of all of them that we've put up, there's probably been seven or eight that have been bought out of those selections. 00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:16.880 Yeah, including Home Alone's been bought twice. 00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:17.360 Yeah. 00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:19.199 Someone bought Slap Shot. 00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:19.760 Yeah. 00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:22.320 Um, what was the one today? 00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:26.800 Um, police story somebody bought out of Alex's story. 00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:28.559 I recommended that last night too to somebody. 00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:35.360 So of the three sets of ten picks, one of Alex's has been bought and one of mine. 00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:37.119 But yeah, um, not yet of the yeah. 00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:38.800 It's not really like a competition thing. 00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:39.599 No, no, no, no. 00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:40.239 I'm just gonna go. 00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:44.239 And I think well, no, and I'm not saying you are, I'm just I'm just like explain for the audience. 00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:55.039 Like it's more of just like uh and I I think it's one of those things that if we do it for a year, then it becomes like, oh shit. 00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:59.199 Yeah, like I always buy this person's picks, but you're also super limited. 00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:02.559 I mean, it's just it's just VHS, it's just what's in the shop. 00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:05.599 So it's not really like it's like staff picks per se. 00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:07.599 I guess the DVDs have staff picks too. 00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:14.960 Yeah, that's the thing I I think we we've talked about is getting more, which I know even like film streams has struggled with that. 00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:23.519 So if

they're struggling with it, I don't know if if anybody is gonna be, but yeah, I think just like recommending cool movies that people haven't seen is it's fun. 00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:27.519 I don't know how feasible it is, but it was a good Saturday, that's for sure. 00:54:27.920 --> 00:54:28.559 No, it was great. 00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:28.960 Yeah. 00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:34.559 And I think um my hope is that Josh likes it and keeps it. 00:54:34.639 --> 00:54:37.920 And you know, I m printed out a little tag for him. 00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:41.280 Um where did you get the new arrow and stuff? 00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:42.000 Did you make those? 00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:43.679 No, that but personally, no. 00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:52.159 I just I just got reference images of street graffiti and then used AI to um so crisp. 00:54:52.719 --> 00:55:05.280 So I went through Claude and I'm like, you know, make me uh you know an image of this word, you know, my name, yeah like replicate the sort of look of the street graffiti. 00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:17.840 It it basically like opened up in internally, it opened up an image at image creation software and like was using graphical, like it was like making it in Photoshop essentially. 00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:20.800 And I'm like, can't you just just make me an image of it? 00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:25.840 And it's like, no, I I have to like go in and paint pixels and do all this stuff. 00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:26.559 I'm like, oh. 00:55:26.639 --> 00:55:28.719 So I just went over to Chat GPT and ChatGPT is like. 00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:29.360 No, no, no. 00:55:29.440 --> 00:55:31.039 The the painting the pixels is sick though. 00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:31.679 No, 100%. 00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:33.199 That is that's the thing. 00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:36.639 That's that's the thing that I think that's the method that's gonna win over time. 00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:38.239 Yeah, it was so ridiculous. 00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:41.119 Actually, it's like working with a designer, yeah. 00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:42.320 It's so much, yeah. 00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:46.400 Sadly, nothing I prompted it would get it even remotely in the world. 00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:48.639 Yeah, it's it's not quite there yet, but it will be eventually. 00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:57.599 And I know I'm not there with prompting it to do it the way you know, but I mean, like, if you like sit like draw out something for it, though, it can get it pretty, pretty good. 00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:02.880 Like I drew out my my flamingo for it, and it it created the SVG version of that. 00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:06.400 Um I drew out the text for the horse racing. 00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:08.800 Yeah, I mean, it's just yeah, it can get close. 00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:09.360 Yeah. 00:56:09.679 --> 00:56:12.559 So I wasn't ready for that deep level of it. 00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:13.840 No, it just looked good though. 00:56:14.000 --> 00:56:14.400 It was cool. 00:56:14.480 --> 00:56:15.039 Yeah, it's

cool. 00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:19.119 They're just uh so so I Audrey said she's you're dead to her. 00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:20.639 Yeah, but I figured, yep. 00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:24.880 So Audrey had hand drawn our little placards and all that stuff. 00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:26.159 She said, Go fuck yourself. 00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:27.360 I'll never talk to him again. 00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:41.840 We'll hopped him out because I'm like, if if we're gonna get Josh to go with this, it's gotta be like street graffiti stuff that even if he takes them down and does them himself, hopefully he sees it and gets inspired. 00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:42.400 Yeah. 00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:46.480 And then, you know, goes, Yeah, let's keep this, let's keep this up. 00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:50.079 So, you know, people have uh uh some recommendations here. 00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:50.880 For sure. 00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:51.840 So yeah. 00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:54.079 I didn't do the DVD staff pick sign though. 00:56:54.159 --> 00:56:55.199 That is still Audrey's. 00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:56.400 That was still that one still. 00:56:56.960 --> 00:56:57.360 The potato. 00:56:57.519 --> 00:56:58.639 Yeah, I know we did those. 00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:04.800 One young woman who looked at those didn't think they were for sale. 00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:05.519 Really? 00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:10.320 She thought the DVD staff picks meant like all these I can't buy these. 00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:12.719 So that that was interesting. 00:57:12.880 --> 00:57:17.360 She was very, you know, she's like her early 20s and she was going through all the DVDs. 00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:24.559 And she picked up two DVDs and the um uh Nightmare Before Christmas on VHS. 00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:29.679 And I chatted her up and asked her about what is all that, but she's like, Oh, we can buy these. 00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:37.679 I'm like, yeah, these are just the DVDs out of all the DVDs we have that we think you know are like the cool the coolest ones or the ones worth a watch or whatever. 00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:38.559 So yeah. 00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:40.800 I yeah. 00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:42.480 Yeah, we gotta work on display. 00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:48.400 Yeah, because we have a lot of young people who come in and like Well, there's a lot of like if you're 20, think about that dude. 00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:50.000 You were born in 2007. 00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:50.559 Yeah. 00:57:50.800 --> 00:57:56.960 Yeah, you haven't been to a lot of stores, but also you have no memory of like blockbuster staff takes or not. 00:57:57.119 --> 00:57:58.320 Like we're kind of making a reference to the stuff. 00:57:58.639 --> 00:57:59.280 And that's what I mean. 00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:03.920 Like stores where the people who work there point out the cool shit. 00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:04.400 Yeah. 00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:06.159 Homer's does that. 00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:08.960 Walmart's not like, hey, fuck it, and check this out. 00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:09.360 Yeah. 00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:10.960 No, no, no, no. 00:58:11.119 --> 00:58:11.280 Yeah. 00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:14.239 So that that was that was really fun today. 00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:24.480 And it was just great seeing people from all different ages go into the back, go through the VHS and either get excited, I remember this movie, you know, whatever. 00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:26.880 I am pumped to figure out how to get the weather in there. 00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:27.920 That'll be that'll be cool. 00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:28.239 Yeah. 00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:30.480 So definitely. 00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:34.320 I'll need to get an old Apple TV in that to figure out some kind of Wi-Fi situation. 00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:36.800 You gotta get Apple TVs in the shop if you're gonna do that though. 00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:37.440 A hundred percent. 00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:38.880 Like a couple of them. 00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:39.280 Oh, yeah. 00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:41.199 If you can find them, I'll happily do that. 00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:45.760 But they're so cheap at estate sales and stuff, I just never buy them because I'm like, I'm good. 00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:49.280 You should buy them, go in, update them, just get them like ready. 00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:50.239 Absolutely. 00:58:50.400 --> 00:59:01.840 And I will, and yeah, and they get we'll have I'll probably even just buy a little stockpile of the hardware that you need to hook it up so that people can just buy a kit basically and be good to go. 00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:02.320 100%. 00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:09.599 And if you get known for selling that kit, yeah, people will come just to buy the oh, go get the streaming kit for the CRT. 00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:16.320 Well, and that's why something to think about is having a Mac based version of it. 00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:31.599 Because, like with the iMac that I restored and put in the shop just to play DVDs, you know, why couldn't we have um a version of the Apple install that you can or Oh, you're talking about just like a piece of software. 00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:35.760 Yeah, that they would down buy from us and download that version for their Mac. 00:59:36.079 --> 00:59:39.599 Like an old Intel Yeah, Intel Mac, yeah. 00:59:39.760 --> 00:59:43.280 You know, that that it's it's we we purposely make it compatible. 00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:47.840 I think it'd be fun to make like custom computer things, yeah. 00:59:48.159 --> 00:59:51.119 But we uh we're gonna have the boogie buddy. 00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:51.840 Yeah, oh shoot. 00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:52.480 Shall we? 00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:54.719 Oh crap, it's already we got 20 minutes. 00:59:55.440 --> 01:00:03.440 It had been a golden afternoon, and I remember having the familiar conviction that life was beginning over again with the summer experience.