Episode 70 : Multi time PBA champion and Future Hall of Famer Jakob Butturff!의 전체 녹취록

00:04:40.759 and just all of support from friends and family. I had a lot 62 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:44.439 of friends come out for shows towards the end of season, so that was 63 00:04:44.519 --> 00:04:48.879 just something that I can't ever ever ever forget. It was super super special 64 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:54.040 to me. I mean, you were really really consistent towards the back half 65 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:57.959 of the year and really just started going fire. And with all the competition 66 00:04:58.040 --> 00:05:02.199 this year, especially Simo bowling away he is and and EJ just absolutely just 67 00:05:02.319 --> 00:05:06.360 bowling unconscious. Um, what's it been like to kind of watch what EJ 68 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:11.759 has done this year? Well, I'm coming to a conclusion. EJ doesn't 69 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:23.240 even have a heartbeat. I think he's he's a five eight five nine robot 70 00:05:23.639 --> 00:05:26.839 that's no more than one hundred and forty pounds. I was just sent down 71 00:05:27.040 --> 00:05:32.040 from Planet Bowling World who ever knows where it's from, and they just magically 72 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:34.959 wanted this kid to appear and go, you know, you know what, 73 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:38.720 We're gonna just gonna make this kid one of the best all time ever. 74 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:43.920 And you know, he's just I'm pretty sure EJ's just over thirty years old. 75 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:47.319 So like what I witnessed it first hand at the World Series, I 76 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:53.399 watched EJ numerous times, but witnessing it when you see it in person in 77 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:56.120 front of you, like within like ten feet of in front of you, 78 00:05:57.079 --> 00:06:04.439 it's something different. Yeah, you know how hard it is. It's it's 79 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:08.600 just so hard. It's just so hard out here, and like what they 80 00:06:08.639 --> 00:06:12.639 could do, like not just ejbow like Simo and Belmo. You know that 81 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:15.879 people always rip on two hand as well. They still have to throw the 82 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:20.240 shots like you watch bowling out here, and regardless of how you throw it, 83 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:25.319 guess what you have to execute and if you don't, then you're screwed. 84 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:30.079 Chnie, what what have you noticed from from Jacob's run this year? 85 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:33.759 Well, for me, it's not just this year. I mean going back 86 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:36.319 to We've been friends for a little over a decade now, or at least 87 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:40.560 since I moved to Vegas and uh right into him in a couple of local 88 00:06:40.639 --> 00:06:45.360 tournaments out here. But um, Jacob has always been dominant at every level. 89 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:48.000 It's nothing new. I mean, what did you win nine regionals in 90 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:50.680 one year? I mean, what the fuck? Nine regionals? Then one 91 00:06:50.759 --> 00:06:56.040 year and I broke another lefties records? So lefties you know how many? 92 00:06:56.240 --> 00:07:00.639 Do you know how many cashes I have in regionals? Less less than I 93 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:03.160 have, less senses that he has. Believe that first second, I'll played 94 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:05.600 that first second. You understand where I'm going this either way. What I'm 95 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:12.199 trying to say is I think the same thing that's happening with EJ and the 96 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:15.720 same thing that's happening with Simo is exactly what he's had all along, and 97 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:20.160 he, meaning Jacob, is Anthony. Well Anthony, I would put EJ 98 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:25.040 in a little bit different realm than when I talk about this comparatively speaking as 99 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:30.319 opposed to to Jacob and Simo. Jacob and Simo are used to being are 100 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:35.160 few are used to feeling victory for pretty much their entire career at every level 101 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:38.879 they've bowled on. EJ was the one that was a little bit of a 102 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:42.000 little suspect on television in the early going. You'd have some bead breaks on 103 00:07:42.079 --> 00:07:44.959 and off television and you know, not win as much, nearly as much 104 00:07:44.959 --> 00:07:46.160 as he should have. We used to compare him to, you know, 105 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:50.839 the great Marshall Homan winning twenty two titles but making television almost two hundred times. 106 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:57.560 So for me, watching guys like Jacob blossom and just contend to know 107 00:07:57.720 --> 00:08:01.439 that they're going to contribute the same things over the next fifteen twenty thirty years. 108 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:03.319 So ever many years that they bowl, it's just throwing to watch, 109 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:07.759 So I can't necessarily I think that the success is just coming from maturity and 110 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:11.680 at the time that he's been out there and actually it's borderline predictable basically, 111 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:15.959 seeing how he's been such a winner the whole way that why wouldn't he just 112 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:18.519 take the next step and be better than most of the people again at this 113 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:24.639 level. Yeah, I mean, like, for instance, there's certain people 114 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:28.879 that come to the play in baseball, or there's in the bottom of the 115 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:31.759 ninth, then you expect them to get a hit to get your team the 116 00:08:31.839 --> 00:08:35.440 lead. There's a guy you expect to take him down the field ninety seven 117 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:39.679 yards with two minutes left on the clock in a football game. And they 118 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:41.759 always have all these stats on lane talk and shit like that. I'm

curious 119 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:45.759 for the one stat that is, whenever Jacob has a bad block, how 120 00:08:45.879 --> 00:08:50.799 good is his next block? Because if he ever bowls poorly, his next 121 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:54.519 block is not only good, it's astronomically better than everybody else in the field. 122 00:08:56.000 --> 00:09:01.039 And he does it so relaxingly, and it's it's it's so upsetting to 123 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:03.399 somebody like me to watch to know that, like, I'll never be able 124 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:07.080 to be that good. But in the same respect that it's awesome to call 125 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:09.240 him a friend and be able to watch it live all the time. I 126 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:16.320 think I think one of the comments they hit me during the World Series was 127 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:22.720 the second day of the Cheetah Championship, so the first day I didn't bowl 128 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:28.720 good and the scoring pace was already through the absolute roof. And in the 129 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:33.240 next ten games, I just literally was in what they call on tour, 130 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:37.759 they call it Jacob mode. They say, whenever Jacob gets in Jacob mode, 131 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:43.080 he is probably one of the scariest people of bowl. And I ended 132 00:09:43.159 --> 00:09:46.879 up just bowling, and I believe in the ten games, I averaged two 133 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:50.440 fifty seven and I ended up making the Cheetah Show because of it, and 134 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:56.159 simularly made a point to a couple of people in the stands of saying, 135 00:09:56.600 --> 00:09:58.960 whenever he gets in that mode, he is the scariest person to be. 136 00:09:58.399 --> 00:10:03.080 He struck more than the average of the field, and this scoring pacing he 137 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:07.279 ended up making the show from how far down he was was probably one of 138 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:11.320 the best blocks he's ever seen. And I take moments like anything like that, 139 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:15.120 and you know, I don't build an ego off of it. I 140 00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:18.600 cherish it because the fact that, like Simon Elli, when I first came 141 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:20.360 out on tour, he was one of those guys I was watching like I 142 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:24.519 watched Parker Bone and Jason Cows. Growing up, those were my idols, 143 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:28.720 and not saying that taking anything away from Simonelli. I was watching them when 144 00:10:28.759 --> 00:10:33.919 I first joined tour. So for me sharing that compliment from someone that I 145 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:39.200 watched to help study from the game, it's one of those moments that I 146 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:43.600 absolutely cherish. That's a really really yeah, that's a really really cool thing. 147 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:48.679 So the announcers also made mention of that during the door in the telecast 148 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:50.919 right now, but I mean it wasn't they called. They didn't say Jacob 149 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:52.440 mode. But now we got a new shirt we gotta print up. So 150 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:58.080 someone called the art department and we gotta put the actual gimmick on there. 151 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:05.080 I just kind of made that up. I mean, it's just one of 152 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:09.320 those modes. I just made it up. I mean, like it's it's 153 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:15.200 just one of those fates. You you're in the zone, you're locked in, 154 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:18.320 you're wrinching and repeating, and that's Jacob mode. I have a question 155 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:22.919 to follow up with with this, because you know, for all bowlers, 156 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:28.240 everybody has felt quote unquote that their own Jacob mode at some point in their 157 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:31.559 life. Like I've we've all had blocks where or like consecutive league weeks for 158 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:35.559 the average house boy to go out of the man. I've been averaging two 159 00:11:35.720 --> 00:11:37.120 thirty five or two forty for the last four weeks, this and that, 160 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:41.240 like, so we all know what it's like to experience our own version of 161 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:48.200 Jacob mode. But I guess what my question for you is, what is 162 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:52.279 happening? Like, give us the ins and outs the ship that about you. 163 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:56.279 Like when I'm in Johnny mode, I don't even really know what's going 164 00:11:56.320 --> 00:12:01.080 on other than I got a song playing in my head and I remember maybe 165 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:03.960 like one thing in my push away, like make sure you're like a push 166 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:07.840 two inches left the center or right, so like, and that's all I 167 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:11.360 think about, and everything else is just completely blank. Like if I don't 168 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:15.200 strike, I'm confused by you're running on instinct and not mechanics. Basically, 169 00:12:15.639 --> 00:12:20.080 I want to I want to know what what the one of the best bowlers 170 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:26.000 on the planet thinks about, and what's happening in your brain in moments like 171 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:30.000 that when you're averaging two sixty and jumping up seventy five spots in a block. 172 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:35.120 You know, it's crazy that a lot of people I bring it up 173 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:37.080 with is that whenever I just give them one of those modes. So the 174 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:41.240 day before I'm like, I don't care about bowling. I don't give a 175 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:46.279 shit, like freaking, I'm just like I'm done, Like I'm already checked 176 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:48.039 out. But then I have to regroup the next morning because I'm like, 177 00:12:48.480 -->

00:12:52.200 Jacob, this is day one. You have to bowl five more days. 178 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:56.720 Are you really going to check out that fast? And I'm thinking to myself, 179 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:00.200 I was like, you know what, dude, You're not just for 180 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:03.519 this one tournament. You're bowling for another three tournaments. So I woke up 181 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:07.480 that morning, but at the same time, I just want to have I 182 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:11.639 wanted to put yesterday side, and I just wanted to go and bowl just 183 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:15.919 be who I am. Like obviously people are known for me striking. The 184 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:18.200 thing is is that when I don't think about bowling and I just go up 185 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:22.440 in bowl, that's when I'm bowl the best. Like I don't think about 186 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:26.519 like I think about if I see my bowl flat stem or whatever, do 187 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:28.519 this, and that I just immediately make the move. I didn't even question 188 00:13:28.559 --> 00:13:31.440 it. I just immediately make my move and I just go through it. 189 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:35.039 And I just just go up there and make the best shot I can. 190 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:39.799 And when I start doing that, that's when people are like, Okay, 191 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:43.840 Jacob is bowling and he gets in those modes like you just can't beat him 192 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:48.720 because now he's not thinking about anything. He's just going up in bowling. 193 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:50.759 When he knows his ball of striking, he doesn't think and he just knows 194 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:54.240 he's gonna strike. That's called having a quiet brain, is what it is. 195 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:58.879 And that's because when you when you have a quiet brain, your body 196 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:03.759 relaxed a little bit too, so your nerves ain't flying, you're not overthrowing, 197 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:07.279 and again you're getting back to rinsing and repeating. You're able to repeat 198 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:09.960 better because you're not walking with a stick up your rump, you know, 199 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:13.159 because you're all tense. And it's the same thing on the putting green when 200 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:16.559 you're putting for the Master's championship. You know what I mean, Like they 201 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:18.480 got nerves of steel. You guys have nerves of steel. It's freaking amazing 202 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:22.559 to watch. Well, Jacob is so chill compared to everybody else, Like 203 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:26.960 he doesn't show too Like you won't kind of blank out there. You won't 204 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:28.519 see an outburst, which is cool. I mean, you're able to stay, 205 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:33.519 you know, you're able to stay out of your own head and just 206 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:35.080 focus on what you have

to do. Like where did you get that from? 207 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:39.960 It's just something inherent in you. I think it's because I realized how 208 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:43.200 much of a little bit of a ship I was when I was a youth 209 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:48.120 powler. And I think that I it's not that I was a bad kid, 210 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:52.519 but at the same time, it's like, you know, there's a 211 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:56.080 lot of people that grew up with him, juniors that I'm good friends with 212 00:14:56.639 --> 00:15:01.080 this day, that I wasn't the most like kid when I was bowling youth 213 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:03.759 youth stuff. And I think it's because I got too much of an ego. 214 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:07.000 I realized that, you know, what, is this really how you 215 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:09.480 want people see you in the long run. Like I think for me now 216 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:15.720 is that I'm so appreciative with where I'm at with my bowling career, especially 217 00:15:15.759 --> 00:15:22.360 because I'm very fortunate to call myself a bowler, even I'm to this stage 218 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:26.440 just even be bole in the national tour, and like with moments like that, 219 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:31.039 all these people that just come up and just want to take pictures, 220 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:33.519 sign autographs, like people that like look up to me this and that, 221 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:37.519 Like I always want to give him grief and be like, hey, you 222 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:41.480 don't want your kids throwing it like me, I just unfortunately the way I 223 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:46.039 could throw it. But at the same time, it's like all these parents 224 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:48.759 just back me up and be like, you know what, my son doesn't 225 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:52.399 want to throw like he just loves the way you Bowl, loves how talented 226 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:56.720 and how passionate and how humbly you are. And I think when I hear 227 00:15:56.759 --> 00:16:02.240 that multiple times in a row, I'm like, you know, it's just 228 00:16:02.360 --> 00:16:06.399 who I am. Naturally. I think that I learned so much and I 229 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:10.600 just like JP said earlier, it's just that the maturity level I think for 230 00:16:10.720 --> 00:16:15.399 me, I'll even say, has developed so much better just by with what's 231 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:18.039 happened in my life. So now just being out there and just the animals 232 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:23.919 stay mature and not get overly scattered brain and dramatic, I think is one 233 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:27.480 thing that benefits me, my bowl, and that's why I love most about 234 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:32.919 you. And you know, to be that mature at your age, I 235 00:16:32.960 --> 00:16:37.200 mean you're still relatively young. You're about twenty eight. I just turned twenty 236 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:41.320 nine and vehicles, so I'm in my last year in my twenties. Happy 237 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:45.159 people a birthday, but still enjoy it bro the next the next time, 238 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:52.480 yes, uh yeah, and explaining this thing on your head real quick to 239 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:55.679 the fans, by the way, So let's let everybody know what what what 240 00:16:56.000 --> 00:17:00.200 why this is so special tonight on straight up five h. I mean, 241 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.039 I don't want to give him too much of a heavy head um and he's 242 00:17:03.039 --> 00:17:07.480 not paying me. I promise you should that he will be. It's just 243 00:17:08.240 --> 00:17:14.200 no, it's just my buddy. Uh he can't everybody that basically knows Dougie 244 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:18.720 vision now, um, I think it's uh, he just I just decided 245 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:22.759 to wear the hat for tonight. And I know my buddy Greg Thompson just 246 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:26.880 chimed in and Doug ye a bowling Greg in the Blearro series event. And 247 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:30.920 Greg is one of my best friends from Arizona. So I'm pretty sure I'm 248 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:36.440 many a text message later at some point saying that you betrayed me. But 249 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:41.319 Douggy, I just wanted to put on the hat. And you know Dougy, 250 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:45.559 like I know GT or well Greg GT we call him, he would 251 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:48.079 want to be out here for the shows. In a heartbeat, Douggy came 252 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:52.440 out for those shows. Uh. These last couple of weeks and I'm bowl 253 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:56.519 a handful of his tournaments. So he's a good dude. He runs a 254 00:17:56.599 --> 00:17:59.960 bunch of good tournaments on the East Coast. I'm not trying to brag about 255 00:17:59.960 --> 00:18:02.920 it, but you know, all you want the man, we love Dougie 256 00:18:02.960 --> 00:18:06.680 here. That's way better than a roto grip thing on the chest. I 257 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:12.079 think that's all this. There we go. I can't there we go? 258 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:17.759 Nice plug away, man, this is your show tonight. I man, 259 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:21.119 you and you and Dina. I love you guys to death, but them 260 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:23.079 Jersey's got to go. I think the reason why I'm I got the camera 261 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:26.599 ang will sit the way it is is because I'm already know I'm gonna get 262 00:18:26.599 --> 00:18:29.720 grief because of because you want people to stay and watch, not leave. 263 00:18:30.839 --> 00:18:33.799 Yeah, that's what's gonna happen next. We lose viewers in the next slight 264 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:38.440 tim seconds. I'm sorry, that's all good. Meanwhile, I'm a met 265 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:41.880 fan and we have the easiest schedule, strength of schedule for the season, 266 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:47.160 and we still stink. So I can't. I can't say

anything. Let 267 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:51.200 me let me ask you another bowling question, because you know, we talk 268 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:53.400 about a lot of not not crazy personal shit on here, but we get 269 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:56.920 a little bit more personal and we want to do a little bit deeper than 270 00:18:56.440 --> 00:19:00.799 the ship that you know, you talk about it and interviews when you're on 271 00:19:00.880 --> 00:19:06.799 television. You had to know at some point in your bowling career that your 272 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:12.640 game is unorthodox. But there's a lot of people with unorthodox games that work 273 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:17.720 and have worked throughout the entire course of bowling history. I mean, one 274 00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:21.599 of the greatest bowlers ever, Walter Ray Williams Jr. I would never try 275 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:26.079 and teach anybody to bowl like Walter Ray. But my question to you is 276 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:30.759 is when did you know, Okay, I've got something that nobody else can 277 00:19:30.839 --> 00:19:36.319 see yet or they want to chirp about. But I can do something with 278 00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:40.480 my wrist at the bottom and I can get my ball to rotate differently than 279 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:45.880 everybody else. Like how old were you when you knew you had something special 280 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:48.039 with that risk position at the bottom. Because Ocho and I talked about you 281 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:52.720 a lot, because Ocho is an actual doctor, and we do talk about 282 00:19:53.359 --> 00:19:56.920 mechanics a lot. Mechanics a lot, so I'm very curious when you knew, 283 00:19:57.599 --> 00:20:00.160 like, wow, I really that much more on the inside of it 284 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:03.599 than everybody else, and like, just just tell me about it and where 285 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:07.039 you coached on it or did you come up with yourself. I just had 286 00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:10.079 to work people try and take it and say stopped doing that, and like 287 00:20:10.160 --> 00:20:12.880 all that other garbage and shit like that. I mean, you know it's 288 00:20:12.920 --> 00:20:15.559 crazy, is that. Like I just started bowling like that one day. 289 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:22.039 I didn't feel any pain in my wrists or my thumb. I honestly didn't 290 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:26.079 even know the way. I like I realized how far underneath the wrist I 291 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:30.640 was until I was like seventeen, sixteen seventeen. But you knew you could 292 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:33.640 rev it by putting it there, right, Like it wasn't like you just 293 00:20:33.880 --> 00:20:37.359 arbitrarily put your wrist in that position. You knew by being on the inside 294 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:41.880 is how you get more on it. I'm assuming yeah, for the most 295 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:45.279 part. I mean, like I really didn't even so I didn't even really 296 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:49.440 know how I was really throwing it until I got to the age where I 297 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:55.920 started studying more about bowling, Like right around sixteen seventeen is where I started 298 00:20:56.000 --> 00:21:00.480 learning about more more about bowling. And I didn't know all these patterns and 299 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:06.160 ship until I was about sixteen seventeen years old, and when I started figuring 300 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:07.920 out, like how am I gonna play these How am I just gonna bowl 301 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:11.880 like this? How am I just gonna enjoy the moment and just bowl. 302 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:17.480 I didn't really know all that until I got older. Until I was like 303 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:21.640 seventeen eighteen, Like when I was in my junior senior year of high school, 304 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:25.640 you know, I started wanting to get into bowling more. And I, 305 00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:27.359 like I said, when I started getting more competiti was when I was 306 00:21:27.400 --> 00:21:30.720 in high school. And then when seventeen and eighteen hit, that's when I 307 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:37.119 started bowling on patterns. I started bowling Jamiet's on the West Coast. JP 308 00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:41.720 knows who my coaches at Arizona or went went to Arizona State. I still 309 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:45.559 talk to him every now and then. His name is Jordan Nasberg. He 310 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:48.920 um. He like he was just saying, like, like, you could 311 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:53.160 do so much money you can think of I'm like, okay, and I'm 312 00:21:53.200 --> 00:21:59.440 just bowling, and I'm just I'm bowling all these tournaments and if I bowled 313 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:03.759 at it both like I think this is where the maturity level started to hit 314 00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:07.960 in a little bit. It's like when I really realized how temple I was 315 00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:12.480 with how I could throw it, and learning so much more and learning all 316 00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:18.960 the logistics of bowling. Basically, do you remember like when you first tried, 317 00:22:18.079 --> 00:22:21.440 Like what was in your head when you first said, I'm just gonna 318 00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:27.519 try to shut out. I hope that's why. Is that I threw like 319 00:22:27.880 --> 00:22:33.279 that one morning and I'm like, wow, that struck and it like got 320 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:34.799 to the gut or and it came back and struck. And I was like 321 00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:37.799 fourteen when I tried. I was thirteen when I tried it. Okay, 322 00:22:38.279 --> 00:22:45.039 I'm like, I can struck, and and you know the good ball rotation 323 00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:47.559 obviously, so you said, Okay, it wasn't like I just hit the 324 00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:49.799 you saw it. It rotated, it drove, it was a it was 325 00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:55.119 a heavy ball basically. Yeah. And

then I did it again. I 326 00:22:55.240 --> 00:23:00.359 was like, wow, it's struck again. So got into something us a 327 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:04.559 lot. Yeah, So I did. So I ended up bowling a summer 328 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:08.599 league, and the first week of the summer league, my goal was to 329 00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:14.480 shoot three hundred before I even at this point, before I even graduated high 330 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:17.440 school. I ended up bowling three hundred before I even started high school. 331 00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:22.160 Wow. So that was the crazy, the crazy set of the day. 332 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:26.720 I was still trying for me too. I'm not in high school yet either. 333 00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:30.480 Forty years later, I'm still truck Literally forty years later, I'm trying. 334 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:33.240 What age were you when you first got into bowling? And like, 335 00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:36.240 how did you get started? Did you have anybody else in your failing in 336 00:23:36.279 --> 00:23:37.599 that bowl was just something your parents put you in, because that's what my 337 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:42.359 parents did with me. So I just so I started bowling when I was 338 00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:47.559 five years old. I grew up in Las Vegas, so we had a 339 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:52.680 lot of centers in Vegas that were connected to the casinos. So just any 340 00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:55.160 days, Um, if I just asked my mom if I wanted to go 341 00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:59.319 bowling, day, take me i was I would say that I started. 342 00:23:59.400 --> 00:24:03.839 I started at Gold Coast and Texas Station at Sun Coast growing up, so 343 00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:07.119 I was basically like on the north side of Vegas and just started going there 344 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:10.799 all the time. Every now and then if I asked my dad if we 345 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:12.880 could go bowling. When I was with my Grandma and Henderson would go a 346 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:18.240 sense at Station South Point all that. So basically I was around the whole 347 00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:25.200 perimeter of Las Vegas and bowling centers. I'm pretty much bowling every Center in 348 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:30.400 Vegas at least once, and I just enjoyed it. Every time I was 349 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:33.160 on a bowling signer. I never threw a pissie fit, Like my mom 350 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:37.200 always said that. I was smiling, like, no matter how shitty I 351 00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:41.640 bowled. So I don't think I've ever seen you through well, no, 352 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:47.200 it's funny. It was like it was originally your hobby and then here you 353 00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:51.279 are the professional, at the top of your game, at the top of 354 00:24:51.400 --> 00:24:56.640 the entire profession. Yeah, that was, like I said. I was 355 00:24:56.720 --> 00:24:59.599 like I got in high school. I was like, I enjoyed this a 356

00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:03.440 lot more. Are like I enjoy it. I don't expect myself to get 357 00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:07.960 like really really good. And I saw myself bowling in high school. A 358 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:10.559 little bit later, I'm like, I age a little bit more and I 359 00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:12.640 feel confident of it, like let's just give it a go and see how 360 00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:15.559 it goes. And it was big in my high school because you lettered in 361 00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:19.079 sports, so it was big if you letter in sports. So if I 362 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:22.720 can manage a letter I'm like, hey, all right, cool, I 363 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:26.359 get a letterman jacket. You had to have to, I'm sorry, Johnny, 364 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:29.400 you had to get a lot of shit from that release, right. 365 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:32.000 I'm sure people ribbed you all the time about what the hell are you doing? 366 00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:34.839 Like, what what the hell is your hand doing? The non bowlers 367 00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:38.440 dead, no clue what was going on, and then the bowlers were like, 368 00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:44.240 what in the world is this? They see the results too, It's 369 00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:47.720 not like they say, you know, all right, the guy's averaging two 370 00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:49.799 thirty five in high school, but boy, what a dumb release. I 371 00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:56.720 think they're gonna go he's on something there. Give me Mike Newman's backswing or 372 00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:00.079 Mike Lickstein's approach any day of the week, as long as I can have 373 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:02.920 the release with it. Yeah. Absolutely, what the ball does is what 374 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:08.200 what matters exactly. Congratulations Kegan, Thank you, Kegan, good job real 375 00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:11.680 quick. Sorry, Jacob, We're gonna get the questions for Jacob at the 376 00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:14.640 end of the show. So don't think I'm ignoring you guys. We're just 377 00:26:14.720 --> 00:26:17.359 gonna I'm ignoring you guys. I mean that that happens anyway. Sorry, 378 00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:19.599 Jacob, you were gonna say something. Oh no, it's funny that JP 379 00:26:19.720 --> 00:26:23.119 brought up Mike Litching because it's like that's one of the guys that bowl Nationals 380 00:26:23.160 --> 00:26:27.240 with and nice, you know, everybody's watching steps Up Palm Horse, and 381 00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:33.599 then you're watching Walla crank smash throw the shot. Then that's a Shirt's got 382 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:37.359 to be a really shirting awesome show. When you guys are bowling together, 383 00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:40.920 we have to put that on a shirt. Are you kidding me? What 384 00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:47.480 is it? Crank smash that was invented by That was invented by Jared Raymond. 385 00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:51.279 He was the one that said crank smash. Oh my god, dude, 386 00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:52.880 that is so cool. I grew up with Mike got a Bradley ball 387 00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:56.240 and wins locks. So I mean, I've known him pretty much all my 388 00:26:56.319 --> 00:27:00.319 life. So that's a perfect description of his And he didn't start out that 389 00:27:00.400 --> 00:27:04.839 way, like he changed for whatever reason, just like you did and had 390 00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:07.640 more success. But that's that's hilarious. Well that's the reason, Rob, 391 00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:15.079 not for whatever reason. My favorite thing about Legie is that he has to 392 00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:18.079 make sure there's a Starbucks within you know, walking distance of anywhere that we 393 00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:22.759 are at, sending that way he can get his free Wi Fi. Let's 394 00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:29.000 go U happy belated one day birthday to Larry List. Yes we was happy, 395 00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:33.039 belated, Yes absolutely. Hilariya is another father and son duo in the 396 00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:36.440 PBA tour. Ye Larry frequently tunes in. I'm not sure if he's here 397 00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:37.799 tonight, but I want to make sure we did that. Roger says, 398 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:42.799 watch watching a man don't want barefoot through broken glass. That's awesome, that's 399 00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:48.559 about that's about right, and his release is just poetry in motion. It 400 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:52.640 is. So let me ask at his knee ahead, run into the line 401 00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:56.319 that I'm trying to run away from the broken You got a flamethrower under your 402 00:27:56.440 --> 00:28:00.799 foot. Yeah. So this is kind of a I don't want to say, 403 00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:03.559 like a rhetorical question, but I mean it's it's something that we can 404 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:07.519 we can all speculate about. So if Belmo kind of revolutionary, it is 405 00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:12.079 the game with his success and with two hands and getting a lot of kids 406 00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:15.200 into the sport using that. Do you think, what it's all said and 407 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:19.240 done, we're gonna have kids try to emulate your style or do you think 408 00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:22.880 it's impossible for them to figure out because I'm sure you're not gonna give it 409 00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:27.400 away. Well, I've already had one, uh one request in the past 410 00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:30.920 that I actually had a kid trying to emulate the way I throw it, 411 00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:34.640 and the mom messaged me afterwards, saying that her son's wrist was broken. 412 00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:41.640 I think, uh so I go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, 413 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:45.200 go ahead, Jacob exactly. You want to know that's the imbecile of the 414 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:51.119 week, that kid's mother. Yeah, Jacob, because what they don't understand. 415 00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:56.079

Yeah, it's it's not a matter of it's it's a matter of hypermobility 416 00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:00.559 and not everybody two hands. We know you're nice. We don't have to 417 00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:03.000 be you. No, No, that's our job. You you just you 418 00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:04.839 give us the you throw us the softball, we're gonna hit him out. 419 00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:11.279 Yeah, she's the issue when when people all have two hands, so everybody 420 00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:15.680 can throw the ball too handed, if like not everybody has a hypermobile risk 421 00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:21.559 with ligaments that stretch like stretched armstrong. Yeah, anybody who says double jointed, 422 00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:25.079 there are no freaking double joints in the human frame since the billions of 423 00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:29.279 years of humans existence. Standing up, they're not double There's no such thing. 424 00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:36.160 People, it's freaking hypermobility, maybe ligament laxity or stretching the same terms 425 00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:37.720 double joint. It is. Well, yeah, I don't know whoever it 426 00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:41.640 came up, and it should should be set out to a work camp for 427 00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:47.480 with with sticky recycling bottles. I think I'm just happy that she didn't send 428 00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:49.079 me in a medical bill. That's that's all that was like, that's all 429 00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:52.880 was happy about. She probably don't have insurance either, the rotten mom. 430 00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:56.839 I've got it. I've got a question for you, because I mean, 431 00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:02.599 I hate to say it, but obviously not just your favorite ball most likely, 432 00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:07.240 but a lot of people love the purple hammer. Obviously, yes, 433 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:10.559 it's a miracle ball, especially with what you guys are bowling on out there 434 00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:15.880 and what you do to a ball. Do you have a favorite bowling ball 435 00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:21.880 like before the Purple Hammer was even invented, like the New Age one. 436 00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:25.519 I don't even remember what company you were with at that time. Um, 437 00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:29.599 but anyway, well, I guess my question is just before the invention of 438 00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:33.720 the New Age Purple Hammer from either Ebanite's Plant or the brands runs a plant, 439 00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:37.480 do you have did you have another like go to baby that you kind 440 00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:45.640 of brought everywhere with you And then we're not thinking there's there is a mixture 441 00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.440 of a lot of things. Obviously, Like every tournament that I go to, 442 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:52.759 everybody thinks I have twenty seven purple hammers. With me, but I 443 00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:57.920 think BACKY does obviously, I just have like it's one of bull balls. 444 00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:03.000 And then I mean JP's watching me enough to where it's like all the high 445 00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:07.519 ends, all the high ends, like big solid, blowing balls. Over 446 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.039 the course I've thrown over my career have been the second go to, and 447 00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:14.960 I mean it's been to make sure of a lot of things I was with. 448 00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.640 I was with nine or a goal before I ended up going to and 449 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:23.200 I International at the time, and now they merge through the merge to the 450 00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:29.400 factory with Brunswick, and now it's all Brunswick. But honestly, it's like 451 00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:33.279 I always tell people, obviously, I'm gonna throw the purple hammer as long 452 00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:37.000 as I need to if I'm striking, because our job out here is to 453 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:41.680 strike. It's not just sit there and split every single shot. Your goal 454 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.440 is to make a paycheck. Right, even if you get paid by your 455 00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:48.640 company, you're still out there to strike with like whatever Quimi needs throw. 456 00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:53.559 So if I need to throw a purple hammer, and if I know it's 457 00:31:53.559 --> 00:31:57.599 going to give me that two forty two fifty for the win, I'm gonna 458 00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:04.720 throw it. Damn Right. I was curious switch, right, yeah, 459 00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:07.359 so, hey, you're throwing a mindset on the left lane first. I 460 00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:12.200 love then the mindsets. This is a shout out from my dino. I'm 461 00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:15.640 gonna throwing the mindset on the on the longer pattern. So he um. 462 00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:20.720 He suggested it when we were bowling, and I was like, you know 463 00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:23.039 what, I'm just gonna give him my risk and I did it. Unfortunately 464 00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:27.319 didn't look good when I pulled Kevin McKinnon the title match on the Players, 465 00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:30.319 But you know it was a it was a ball that helped me a lot 466 00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:35.119 this week or well this past week at the Player's Championship. Okay, you 467 00:32:35.240 --> 00:32:37.759 got out of it early against O'Neil, right like you and you went right 468 00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:40.799 to the mindset, like right away. How come you didn't do that, 469 00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:46.759 uh in the finals? Just just curious. So I actually tried to do 470 00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:50.559 and make sure a lot of things. I think that. So when I 471 00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:53.160 pulled Kevin Williams in the first match, he was throwing yourthane on the left 472 00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:58.119 lane and it allowed me to throw reactive kind of where I was at for 473 00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:02.359 the most part when I bowl bill, I feel like I had to create

474 00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:06.559 a little bit more carry down just to kind of give me an idea and 475 00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.799 try to go from there. But I feel like Sunday they were definitely even 476 00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:14.039 on the right lane. They just felt like they were hooking a lot sooner 477 00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:16.519 than they were the day before. And I ended up having to go to 478 00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:22.279 a troublemaker the last game on the right lane that I bowled, and it 479 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:24.680 was a ball I didn't throw all week on the left lane. Yeah, 480 00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:29.880 I watched all throughout the entire tournament alter qualifying. I never saw that ball 481 00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:32.559 go down the line. Yeah, I was this week. I was chatting 482 00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:37.200 with you know, ball Rep Dino Casillo, and I was throwing balls that 483 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.640 I didn't expect to throw in the title match or at any point. And 484 00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:45.440 they will still finished high though, didn't they. I think they were just 485 00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:47.559 they would. They looked like they were starting the second they hit the lane 486 00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:52.920 and they were already in their hook phase almost or something just a matter of 487 00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:55.720 like how the lanes get well. It could be the weather outside the TV 488 00:33:55.880 --> 00:34:00.880 lights. They placed so many different factors and to how the lanes are gonna 489 00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:04.200 play. I was wondering, like how was it like the difference was so 490 00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:07.680 significant between the past for islands, Like I don't I don't know how it 491 00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:09.519 got so far out of whack for you because you were you were pretty lined 492 00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:15.360 up. Yeah, It's like a lot of different factors go into it. 493 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:20.639 Um, I think I didn't do anything crazy with services. Maybe that like 494 00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:23.599 I was throwing a couple of shots a little bit way too much for the 495 00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:28.199 left to start, and then by the time they got to that point, 496 00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:30.760 it was just hooking so much more. But the lanes just kind of were 497 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:34.960 a little bit funky. Even Kevin McKinnon I was talking to him the title 498 00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:37.639 match. He even said that the lanes were definitely hooking a lot sooner, 499 00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:43.039 even on his side of the lane too. But Kevin can overpower his look 500 00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:47.599 with ball speed just like just like his dad. Yep. Right to me 501 00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:52.760 honestly, like he had the perfect condition for that time, in the perfect 502 00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:55.599 style. Like if he didn't throw it as hard as he did, I 503 00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:59.840 really don't think he'd had the same success. That's just what I noticed from 504 00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:01.440 from watching him. I mean, it's amazing what he did. I'm not 505 00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:05.960 taking anything away from at all, But uh, he needed he needed that 506 00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.599 power to get down the lane that fast. Especially he even he dove high. 507 00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:10.519 If you're a handful of times too. I don't know, there wasn't 508 00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:15.159 anybody didn't like that's for sure. He was throwing different speeds on each lane 509 00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:19.280 too. Yep, ye hyping it straight up five I think on the old 510 00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:24.599 smaller pattern there with the hammer. Yeah, he isn't though, so you 511 00:35:24.719 --> 00:35:28.599 know we haven't. We were officially having a new nickname for him on tour. 512 00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:31.400 So where his dad was the Rocket, I think we're going called Kevin 513 00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:36.519 the Nuke, So I love it. Yeah, maybe that they called him 514 00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:43.360 on the on the telecast that's supposed to be from Bull Durham idea. Probably 515 00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:46.000 even if it was, do you think he would know? You know, 516 00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:50.800 and you're Jacob, Yeah, I don't think he was born. I'm not 517 00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:53.719 thirty. He's dad my last year in my twenty. It's bad parenting if 518 00:35:53.760 --> 00:36:01.239 his dad didn't shortly doc Jacob his dad time everything. So, Jacob, 519 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:06.519 I have a random question for myself. Did you ever try a fingertip grip? 520 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:08.800 Wait? Wait, wait, wait he doesn't have a fingertip grip? 521 00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:17.000 Oh you know, well well no, wait, full I go conventional. 522 00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:22.480 I've never seen your wrist actually, because it's underneath the ball. So far 523 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:24.599 to freaking you know, I don't even wait. I've never looked at your 524 00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:34.920 fingers. That's why did your risk turn complexit. I want to see you 525 00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:37.840 spin it all the way around like a muppet, because there's no way that 526 00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:39.880 can be in the Oh my god, I didn't notice that. Wow, 527 00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:44.440 you do all that without your fingertips? That should be We gotta have his 528 00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:47.559 wrist like like some remember like uh, the MythBusters or something. We gotta 529 00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:52.760 have like one of these slow roll motion things and watch how under a video 530 00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:55.719 fluoroscopy to see the X ray and the bones maneuvering. Oh my god, 531 00:36:55.760 --> 00:37:00.199 we're gonna dose science experiments on your risk. Mean, that's all? Yeah, 532 00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:04.840 So what was your answer? Yeah, that's

right, fingertip. Sorry, 533 00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:07.679 Kenny, all right, whatever you name, keep going. But I'm 534 00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:12.920 curious, though, I want to make sure we don't lose it. I 535 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:16.880 forgot. I forgot. What did you want to try? You always conventional? 536 00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:22.039 I did once when I was like fourteen, But my knuckle, my 537 00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:24.920 my chalis has got so fat that I just couldn't even put my fingers in 538 00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:30.239 the blowing ball. There you go. That's fantastic, So I mean that 539 00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:32.440 blows me away. Conventional but I'm thumb out. I mean, when when 540 00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:36.360 my thumb was in the ball, I would like to dig, probably like 541 00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:38.679 as low as Sean Rash used to dig, like between the two cuts to 542 00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:44.519 the knuckles and um. But I'm virtually conventional when I have my thumb out 543 00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:49.519 of the ball. But I can't imagine. God, it's I give you. 544 00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:52.119 I mean, I guess it's fit. Every human dynamic is different and 545 00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:57.280 every single person, right, I mean, I just I could never People 546 00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:00.440 always say you gotta have a full fingertip grip for maximum leverage and power and 547 00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:01.639 YadA, YadA, YadA. Meanwhile, I was always the other way. 548 00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:05.679 I always wanted more fingers in the ball because I felt like I could uncoil 549 00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:08.199 more true when I had more fingers in the ball. But you know it's 550 00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:13.199 funny, is that? Like, uh so you guys know Chris Warren, 551 00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:16.000 right, Chris Warren that bowl on the PA Tour, Squeak Keith conventional group 552 00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:21.480 two yeah a lot now a long time. Yeah, And you see the 553 00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:24.159 way he bowls, and it's like, you know the guy that's like five 554 00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:29.280 to five and he's one hundred and twenty pounds and he could still generate as 555 00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:32.719 much power as he can with everything that he does. That's that's something impression. 556 00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:36.679 How do you clear your fingers is what I'm wondering though, Like that's 557 00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:40.000 just the part that kind of is bugging me because like I really have to, 558 00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:44.599 you really have to, like uncoiled, you'd have to. Oh that's 559 00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:46.559 do you have to yo yo in almost? Like yeah, if you don't, 560 00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:51.480 you're it's you're more likely to flip your hand over the top of these 561 00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:54.880 we're flying saucer it or something to matter how consistent you could come out of 562 00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:58.360 a blow and ball. I think it's just I started bowling like that one 563 00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:00.199 When I started bowling like that one day, I think that I learned it 564 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:04.840 at such a young age. I would just learned to be able to repeat 565 00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:10.800 it consistently. Yeah, That's what's remarkable to me is like this doesn't happen 566 00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:15.559 very often with my no thumb delivery, but when it does, it's very 567 00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:19.800 obvious. Like there's sometimes that my hand will open too much in the backswing 568 00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:22.280 and I will completely miss it at the bottom. Like you know, when 569 00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:24.519 you rotate a boat, you lose a ball and you're like automatically off your 570 00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:28.079 hand, you know, it's a wash out, or you're praying to God 571 00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:31.400 that it even stays on the lane because you missed it that bed. That 572 00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:37.920 happens to me sometimes, and I'm like shocked and amazed at how you can 573 00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:43.760 get your hand into an even deeper position with a conventional grip and you seemingly 574 00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:45.960 never ever ever miss it at the bottom, and if you do, it's 575 00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:50.840 like one out of a two hundred shots. That's what I think is so 576 00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:55.800 exceptional and special about your game. I think it's crazy because there's only been 577 00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:00.880 I don't know if it's just because of a turrible or standpoint too, but 578 00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:08.519 there's a lot I'm current probably been maybe maybe twenty shots, maybe twenty shots 579 00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:14.199 in my career where I'm like, high that ball not hook? Wow? 580 00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:17.679 Like yeah, like legitimately, because it's just like I'm hinting as hard as 581 00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:21.800 I can. Even if it's like a flat seven, I know it hooked. 582 00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:23.239 But if it like if I like three seven nine, or if I 583 00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:27.360 wash out, I'm like, how on earth to that not hook? Right? 584 00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:30.239 Well, what's what's your to bounce off it out? Obviously you're you're 585 00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:35.000 able to repeat. Well, what's your practice schedule? Like I mean, 586 00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:37.199 do you throw the ball one hundred times? The bowld ten games, the 587 00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:39.960 bowl twenty games? I mean, I know practicing, I don't think it's 588 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:45.599 for score. Really, it's for mechanics and repeating and if you throw how 589 00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:49.039 many? So what's your what's your routine? Like I don't want to say 590 00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:52.199 all season because I know you guys bowl, you're around, So I think 591 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:55.400 it's a mixture of a lot of things. So when

we go so when 592 00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:59.679 we ball on tour, we go center weekend a week out to a different 593 00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:02.880 center. I think forty games a week too. So I think my first 594 00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:07.760 thing that I try to focus on when I get there, because you guys 595 00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:10.239 see how much I slide, Like I slide before I even release the blowing 596 00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:15.000 ball. So I think my biggest thing is that I try to practice to 597 00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:17.960 get a feel fill the lads. That is the first thing that when I 598 00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:21.280 get to a new center, to try to get a feel with how the 599 00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:25.719 week's gonna be. Like I practice the electra at caire Leer this past week, 600 00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:31.480 well Laro, North Brunswick, but we still call it care Leers always. 601 00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:37.400 It should be I practice there for a handful of like for a good 602 00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:40.960 Vitoria times. I know that the approaches were known for being sticky. For 603 00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:45.760 me, I'd rather slide than stick any day, on any day of the 604 00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:51.880 week. So I was practicing exceptionally, trying to make sure that I'm not 605 00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:55.639 overdoing it as well. Um, that's the one thing that I try to 606 00:41:55.679 --> 00:42:01.199 focus on. And then obviously like for me, obviously obviously shooting spars is 607 00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:07.880 one of the biggest things as well. Make sure I can make make sure 608 00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:09.920 I can make my spars man, because those seven pins can be tricky, 609 00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:15.719 those nine splits can be tricky. I noticed this long before they mentioned it 610 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:19.000 on the recent show, and I'm sure a bunch of our spectators did too. 611 00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:22.840 You stop throwing it straight at sevenpins, switch to a spy, throwing 612 00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.039 it like a strike ball. Now, okay, So I got a task 613 00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:30.599 for all three of you, so my show before I bolt, Kevin Williams, 614 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:34.639 go back and look at how many I'll even bring it up right now, 615 00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:37.920 go back and look at how many single pins I missed this week? 616 00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:43.239 I missed so I was fifty five sixty when I believe it is those six 617 00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:46.760 single pins. I missed him one block? Oh wow, Yeah, I 618 00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:52.079 missed him all shooting straight. So the next block I literally went in and 619 00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:57.000 said, I'm just gonna hook him my sevenpins again because I'm never missing six 620 00:42:57.119 --> 00:43:00.880 sevenpins in one block ever. Again. That move right there is as gutsy 621 00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:05.719 as any other move I thought you could possibly

think of. Oh hell yeah, 622 00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:07.639 to have that in your brain, to go out there and say, 623 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:12.639 I've shot sevenpins like this for last I don't know, twenty fucking years runner. 624 00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:15.199 Yeah, while I'm averaging two sixty, I want to make sure I 625 00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:17.800 don't miss six. So I'm just gonna start looking it into my seven bins. 626 00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:23.960 Because they had mentioned they had mentioned how Norm Duke would switch balls, 627 00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:29.840 but he was you know, completely open risk code collapse and you know, 628 00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:36.800 thumb out at the pactable at the pin and it had this thumb whole rotation 629 00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:40.679 whereas you're you're popping it. Yeah, that was that was cool for me 630 00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:45.760 to to to watch to see. I thought that was really really ballsy move. 631 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.599 Jacob, Like, seriously, you guys are more confidence than I did. 632 00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:54.079 Well, Mortage, you made it, you made them do. But 633 00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:58.320 I mean the best in the world are able to adapt and do whatever it 634 00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:00.679 takes to to get it done. I mean, that's why you're on the 635 00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:02.760 level that you're on, Like you have something different than you know, a 636 00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:07.159 hundred other bowlers that are they're on the tour, Like it's just that's what 637 00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:09.519 makes you so good and you're you're able to figure it out. You know, 638 00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:14.480 are other bowlers plus thousands of regional guys that right, it's just a 639 00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:17.400 tier under that that are still that. I mean, that's if the separation 640 00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:22.320 is so wild to me, how the cream just always rises to the top. 641 00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.320 The average people think there's ten bowlers on tour. I bet, well 642 00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:29.239 that's all you usually see on TV. And that's how good they talked. 643 00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:31.920 We talked about that on a show and we talked about the difference between the 644 00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:36.000 good players and the great players, and the great players to the elite players. 645 00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:40.320 And Jacob is in the group with the elite players, and it's it's 646 00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:43.840 so dead. That's why we have to ask them all they sorry, I'm 647 00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:46.000 talking like like you're not sitting right here, But we have to ask all 648 00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:50.719 these questions because we have to get the mentality of what the top one percent 649 00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:53.719 of the sport is thinking and and going through mentally and physically everything. And 650 00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:58.800 he's gushing over EJ when this guy is at

the same level and we're all 651 00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:01.760 fangirls for you anyway, you know, we're totally were this a story that 652 00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:06.000 me and JP are going to enjoy a drink over and when I go back 653 00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:09.639 to Vegas for a little bit. So perfect. Let's get to some of 654 00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:15.199 our viewer questions because they've been waiting so patiently all the way from Australia. 655 00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:21.000 Um keeking tasker wants to know, uh where to go? Everybody stopped talking? 656 00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:24.119 Stop talking? What's your experience like on timber lanes. I'm assuming that's 657 00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:32.519 wood lanes. The boots you gotta whack wood lanes, you gotta both fantastic 658 00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:37.119 on wood. I love wood lanes because I could throw a plastic up the 659 00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.159 utter exactly. That was exactly what I was just gonna say. What is 660 00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:43.960 why? Why? What? What is? It means? The shot a 661 00:45:44.079 --> 00:45:49.239 whole better summer, Like, you don't have to play a trap. Wood 662 00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:52.679 lanes are just old their beat up, I mean not in a good way, 663 00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:54.280 beat up, Like I mean there is hook in general a lot more 664 00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:58.199 the hook a lot sooner. So the best way to kind of get any 665 00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:02.159 look just throw a weaker equipment that isn't gonna overhook right. It was plastic 666 00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:07.159 at the pocket, but I'll strike ball in a seven. That's something you 667 00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:09.159 can do it all. Uh. Roger Man, he wants to know what 668 00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:13.639 was up with the multiple fouls on the Cheetah Show. Bad approach or bad 669 00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:17.960 footwork, and he just talked about. Sure, I wore new shoes on 670 00:46:19.079 --> 00:46:23.280 that show in case everybody's curious about. And they were a half size bigger. 671 00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:27.960 I know that's no excuse, but they were a half size bigger. 672 00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:32.360 And yeah, like one my rookie mistake. I pulled my best block ever 673 00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:36.280 to get into that show, and I made a rookie mistake wearing new shoes. 674 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:39.920 It was. It was confusing. I'm not gonna lie confuse the fuck 675 00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:45.440 out of me, but the timing of it was. But here is I'm 676 00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:49.079 gonna ask you this the right way I just got. I went to Reno 677 00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:51.679 with my team like I do every year, and I've been wearing one black 678 00:46:51.760 --> 00:46:54.000 shoe and one white shoe for about the last eight years. I refuse to 679 00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:59.760 take my white Brunswick Tpux off of my off of my slide foot in Reno. 680 00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:05.239 There's they started to get holes through them, like they were getting like 681 00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:08.840 holes through the bottom of the shoe into the insult. I could not wear 682 00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:13.920 that. I had to change into my other hammer forced black shoe for the 683 00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:17.159 first time since those white TPUs came out. I think I was rooming with 684 00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:24.079 Jesus Simonelli. So this is like twenty fourteen that probably names Jesus shoes. 685 00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:30.199 So I understand that desperate times, desperate measures type shit, But why did 686 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:36.360 you change your shoes the day before bowling on television after you just because I'm 687 00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:39.599 the same issues you are? Is that why I still have holes in the 688 00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:45.480 bottom of my shoes right now? So apaches right now? Yeah, it's 689 00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:50.400 it's really could have been the only conceivable reason why I don't think you and 690 00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:54.880 I mean unless listen new contracts coming out. Maybe in the contracts it says, 691 00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:58.559 you know, effective this day, you can't wear this no matter who 692 00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:00.440 you are, even if you are bowling for a major or if they had 693 00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.920 a contract that you have the right size, then too, don't tell you. 694 00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:07.760 I mean, well, that's all right, So that's that's a question. 695 00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:13.079 I'm assuming everybody had a question too. So I didn't know the own 696 00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:16.320 sides of my own shoes. So oh you actually went oh, you were 697 00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:20.239 like, I think I'm a ten and a half. Yeah, and they 698 00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:22.320 were like, turns out you're a seven. I mean, I'm exaggerating obviously, 699 00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:28.639 obviously a ball breaking territory, because now we could have said, you 700 00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:30.239 don't know your shoe size, and then we could have said, well, 701 00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:34.960 didn't they feel big when you tried them on? Like I'm gonna jerk an, 702 00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:40.239 We're gonna let them go today. Why did you get two pair of 703 00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:45.239 socks? Then? Damn it? Jacob, do you remember what your first 704 00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:49.719 ball was? That's a good one. Oh man, that's a lot of 705 00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:55.719 thinking. Can you also maybe know it? I know it was before high 706 00:48:55.719 --> 00:49:01.840 school. My first ever three hundred bowing ball was a BVP gargoyle. Nice 707 00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:07.599 if that helps. Nice a BVP gargoyle. Yeah, if you look it 708 00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:13.199 up, I think you mean visionary gargoyle. Yeah, visionary gargoyle. Color. 709 00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:15.519 Which color was it? It was the green one? Oh wow, 710 00:49:15.920 -->

00:49:20.119 that ball was sick. I love the granted one, that gray one. 711 00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:23.000 That ball looked like a goddamn rock. Johnny is a bowling ball savant. 712 00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:28.360 Yeah, I just happened, he said, He said BVP. So there 713 00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:31.719 was a time period where Brunswick had a line called the Brunswick Value Performance Products 714 00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:36.639 and that was Balls Like the Goliath. That was Balls like the Rampage, 715 00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:42.760 and but Visionary Bowling Products was VBP. So when he said b VP, 716 00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:45.880 I'm automatically thinking Brunswick, and he's talking about the Rampage and he's talking about 717 00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:49.639 the Goliath and the Nemesis and all this other shit. And then I'm like, 718 00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:52.119 wait a minute, no, because I tried a couple. I tried 719 00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:55.199 a couple Visionary Bowling Products too. I had that pink fucking Gargoyle, remember 720 00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:59.320 that ball, and um god, there was one more. I had one. 721 00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:00.840 I think it was called Sorcerer. Yes, Sherry said, the green 722 00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:07.480 one was the O G Cargoing Hell yeah, Sherry, Yeah. Hey, 723 00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:10.000 I gotta tell you Rob real quick. And to our viewers and to Jacob, 724 00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:14.800 I am at work today. I actually took my hour lunch break to 725 00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:17.519 be here with you because I traded off to spend Mother's Day with my girlfriend 726 00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:22.639 and the family. So I do have to I I can stay it's about 727 00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:24.360 ten after six, but after that, if you guys are still here, 728 00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:28.400 great, But as always, it's a pleasure and if I don't get a 729 00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:30.960 chance when I do leave. Jacob, thank you so much for hanging and 730 00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:36.039 being here with us tonight. And so I have some random actually, ohho, 731 00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:38.239 you have random questions that we were chatting about in our little group chat 732 00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:42.559 before. Do you want to rapid fire some of those that I just wrote 733 00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:46.800 some examples because but mine, we're gonna be to you're you're good, No 734 00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:51.960 good, go ahead, Rob, you get in there. You hear jacob 735 00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:57.199 favorite food, where do I start? I'm fat? Yeah, I hear 736 00:50:57.239 --> 00:51:04.960 you see Mexican or Asian? Like literally, um, if it's Mexican, 737 00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:07.760 it's a CA city is. If it's aiving Italian, that's ravioli. Any 738 00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:10.960 seafood has to have any kind of fish. When you're on tour, do 739 00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:14.320 you you look for these? Obviously? Right, You're like, Okay, 740 00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:16.000 where's the Mexican joint or summer? Okay? I do whenever I go to 741 00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:20.960 Yeah, I'm one of those guys that I'm not gonna look for like a 742 00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:23.760 Chick fil a Chili's like I'm looking for something a hole in the wall. 743 00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:28.679 Whenever I go to stop to Stop. I love it, momus, he's 744 00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:30.880 a food dude, I love it. Duds. I've never looked for that. 745 00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:35.239 I think you're I think you're my spirit animal. Um, that's fantastic. 746 00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:39.280 Favorite fast food. Oh, she's talk talk about nice. That's my 747 00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:45.159 life. Dam she's Uh, she's hardcore talbot who loves to talking about fast 748 00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:46.920 food. I'll talking about food in general. I don't talk about slow food, 749 00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:53.280 fast food into any kind of food. Right. Um, let's see. 750 00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:58.960 Favorite thing to do when you're not bowling. Uh, It depends on 751 00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:01.840 the stop. But I love going to like sports games if they're at home 752 00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:06.760 during tour stops. Hell, yeah, I love that just any you want 753 00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:08.119 to be at the home stadium for what the ambiance or something like that. 754 00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:12.000 Yeah, just to enjoy the stadium. I want to check them off. 755 00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.000 Well that's cool. Well, so, what are some of the coolest places 756 00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:19.320 you've been like stadiums, arenas that you can you can think of. I 757 00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:23.400 haven't been to munch but uh we went to uh at the at the US 758 00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:27.280 Open this past year. We went to the Pacers game out in Indianapolis. 759 00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.000 That was pretty cool. Um that was just during the season, though, 760 00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:32.639 Like I mean, just in general. I live in Arizona Chase Fields. 761 00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:36.880 Even though the Diamondbacks can't beat the Dodgers any any time of the year. 762 00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:42.000 They have a nice stadium. Yeah, I was beautiful stadiums out there, 763 00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:49.239 did you there? They do that. If the Diamondbacks won the World Series 764 00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:51.960 at home, I was gonna jump in the pool. Yeah. I don't 765 00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:53.519 think it means the three thousand and one World Series, say, yeah, 766 00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:58.920 yeah, I was barely alive. I was like I was in grade school. 767 00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:01.519 I remember, like, didn't even recognize your Diamondbacks back then with those 768 00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:07.719 uniforms Colaric. Now they're horrible because I think they recognize it because they hit 769 00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:12.440 the game winner off that that one of the best relievers ever, the best. 770

00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:17.920 But if the infield wasn't in cheater was it was little little blooper right 771 00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:24.840 You could see his freaking arms when he raises his hands. Holy Jesus, 772 00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:29.079 like, excuse me, swing right, just a little blooper right over here. 773 00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:30.360 No, listen, it was a cutter. He he didn't get it 774 00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:34.039 because it was a cutter bearing in he's a lefty. Not that I saw 775 00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:37.519 the game one million times or anything, and it's in my memory. Yeah, 776 00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:40.760 I know that, like he knows bowling balls. That's fantastic. U. 777 00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:45.320 Tammy Pissaro wants to know. I asked him quicktion for my son that 778 00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:46.840 he's sitting with me. We met you at the pro am. He wants 779 00:53:46.840 --> 00:53:50.599 to know how many three hundred games you have? Uh, and I would 780 00:53:50.639 --> 00:53:52.760 like to say congratulations. I know you came in second and I saw your 781 00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:59.360 post congratulating Kevin on his on his win. You're a class act and a 782 00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:02.360 great role model for kids to see that kind of sportsmanship. Thank you. 783 00:54:02.760 --> 00:54:07.800 Um, I'm I sent it to someone the other day. I'm at one 784 00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:13.039 hundred and thirty four three hundred games in my life on a pb E tour 785 00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:17.519 or just toural just total national tour. I believe I'm at twenty three. 786 00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:21.719 What does that, Johnny? How many do you have? Like four hundred? 787 00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:25.039 Well? When you I WHOA hang on a second here, I very 788 00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:30.079 very much expected the number to be well over two hundreds. Can you blame 789 00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:31.679 me? I'm just busting your ball. No, No, I'm serious, 790 00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:37.519 though I can't be. Probably has more hundreds, you probably more than three 791 00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:42.559 hunds plastic than I do regular. So you have nine tour titles, So 792 00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:49.159 you have talent though that I don't come on. That's there's a big difference 793 00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:53.000 there. But yeah, but we're that number surprised me very much. It 794 00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:58.960 surprises me that he's got twenty three PBA three hundreds, but he only has 795 00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:07.760 one hundred and thirty three hundred games. That's but here's the other here's the 796 00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:10.119 other thing. Though. It does make sense before you say that, because 797 00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:14.519 you've been on tour for how many years? That's what I just said. 798 00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:17.199 He's always bowling on tour. He's not bowling league. Now, if he's 799 00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:22.000 good for the last ten years and he bowled twice a week, then yeah, 800 00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:23.679 I think maybe he would have like seven hundred. He'd have forty in 801 00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:29.039 a freaking league season on the big red whifflebat pattern. Yeah, okay, 802 00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:30.719 now it makes more sense. I answered my own question. And now now 803 00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:34.519 we're just piling on. Everybody says you should have more. Just still make 804 00:55:34.599 --> 00:55:37.039 him feel bad, Johnny, Yeah, leave the guy alone. Man, 805 00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:40.480 he's wearing an awesome freaking sponsors. Now, we got t shirts getting made 806 00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:45.199 already. I already called the art department whole call that stuff. We got 807 00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:52.440 it. I love yours a memoir of his? Are you wearing? Yeah, 808 00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:55.320 it looks like a SpongeBob shirt. Is is that Patrick? Yeah, 809 00:55:55.800 --> 00:56:00.280 good job, of course it is. Those look likely the sucks were on 810 00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:06.639 this TV show and we can see through your holes in your shoes. Just 811 00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:10.360 kidding. Oh that's horrible. Um so if you have the type of podcast, 812 00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:15.079 sorry, if you would have won the players, you already would have 813 00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:16.960 been eligible for the PBA Hall of Fame. Like I know you kind of 814 00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:22.159 said, you know, growing up as a kid and going now You're like, 815 00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:24.559 I can't believe him on a tour, Like did you ever think as 816 00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:29.360 a kid bowling like you'd be eligible for Hall of Fame or even bowling on 817 00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:31.599 the tour to beginning with it, Like at twenty nine years old, you 818 00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:34.760 could already be a shore. I mean, you're already pretty much a shooing. 819 00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:37.199 The way he's talking now, it already seems like it doesn't seem real 820 00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:39.039 to him, and I'm not. That's something kind of saying, like are 821 00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:44.639 you still so he's so docile, humble, normal? I guess, I 822 00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:45.800 say, can you wrap your head around? It? Is pretty much what 823 00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:50.760 I'm asking if you had told me I was blowing on the lanes currently right 824 00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:54.320 now with EJ simul Belmo all those guys right now as we speak, how 825 00:56:54.519 --> 00:56:59.280 it called you a lunatic like and winning a lot of times. What do 826 00:56:59.320 --> 00:57:04.320 you mean just knowing them eating you're beating them sick? I promised this isn't 827 00:57:04.320 --> 00:57:07.320 an act either like that? Why do we have you on? We like 828 00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:10.960 having people on this show that we know, we're real and our listeners on 829 00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:15.559 this show like people

that are real kind of shit that we and our listeners 830 00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:20.920 want to fucking hear. Dude, were one hundred percent and know that you're 831 00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:23.280 that kind of person. It's you. You're You're the kind of person that 832 00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:27.639 sits back and says Jesus. I used to envy Parker Bone and Jason Couch, 833 00:57:27.679 --> 00:57:31.280 and now those guys are looking at me and asking how many pins ahead 834 00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:35.880 of us is he this week? Like they're they're talking about you like fuck 835 00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:39.480 butters ball and that's guaranteed second place finished for me at best. That's the 836 00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:43.960 kind of shit that those that your idols are saying about you now, which 837 00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:46.239 is you know, it's that's something now we should let to answer. I 838 00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:52.519 guess the question. So is it surreal we just overt We just overpowered the 839 00:57:52.599 --> 00:58:00.360 guy. We suck, We suck that I'm new this too. Um no, 840 00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:06.159 I uh, what's funny is that I'm sitting in the I'm currently sitting 841 00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:10.679 in the uh the room of the infamous guy that probably has more three hundreds 842 00:58:10.679 --> 00:58:16.199 and eight hundreds than anybody on the planet. I'm sending the room of yer. 843 00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:21.440 Oh no, shit, nice. Yeah, so I'm sitting in there 844 00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:24.440 like I'm sure a lot of East Coasters when they If you don't know any 845 00:58:24.519 --> 00:58:29.280 ny are on the West East Coast, then you don't know bowling basically, 846 00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:34.280 right, Yeah, Andry and I are from Milton, Pennsylvania back in my 847 00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:37.719 old childhood days. I don't know if he still lives in Milton, Pennsylvania. 848 00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:40.039 I'm currently staying. I'm currently in his house right now as we speak. 849 00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:45.719 Yeah, it is still in Milton. I mean we don't want to 850 00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:49.519 give ar I could go with drag Anthony if you want. In a minute, 851 00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:52.599 Oh should should we get a little cameo from the Ginger Assassin himself? 852 00:58:53.280 --> 00:58:57.039 If he's still here, I can go check for you guys really quick before 853 00:58:57.039 --> 00:59:00.119 you leave. Yeah, dude, if you want to go right at and 854 00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:01.480 you guys, as long as you know, I only got nine minutes, 855 00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:07.760 all right, we got to tell what a pleasure to have him on as 856 00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:13.199 a guest today. This has been Uh, He's fantastic. Yeah, I 857 00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:16.440 mean really think about it, dude. This is the This is not like 858 00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:20.239 I'm gonna go back to my reference from last week. This is not like 859 00:59:20.400 -->

00:59:23.840 a This is not a mediocre player. This is somebody who is the best 860 00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:30.559 out there. Both a rain delay for Anthony sat. Yes, I am 861 00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:36.960 in the home of hbout Any Nyer and obviously Anthony Alexis is out in the 862 00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:40.280 Queens right now, out in Las Vegas, so yes, she's at Samstown. 863 00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:45.440 Yeah. The whole Nier family is basically like Brandon Runk, which is 864 00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:50.760 Alexis husband. Like, the whole family treats me well while I'm out here 865 00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:54.400 in Pennsylvania. Had a surprise visit from Brendon Runk at my league last night. 866 00:59:55.760 --> 01:00:00.159 Yeah. Yeah, Brendon Runk stopped by with bal Clemmer said high for 867 01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:05.840 a game. So I was cool to see them. Saw Daria downstairs playing 868 01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:12.199 in slot machine before league, right into Carson Lakoshish. I think I saw 869 01:00:12.280 --> 01:00:14.880 Amber McLeod I'm not sure, but yeah, it was. It was nice 870 01:00:14.920 --> 01:00:21.119 to see and not see there is that what is that? Is that? 871 01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:24.039 What is out here? I'm talking about where he's at. Where he's at, 872 01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:30.679 He's out in Pennsylvania. So I've been staying with so in the off 873 01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:32.800 season whenever we don't have a tour stop. I've actually been staying with the 874 01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:39.920 Nyers because it with the airfare prices that make you want to like refect your 875 01:00:40.199 --> 01:00:46.639 bank as count. Yeah, they they unfortunately allowing it to where it's too 876 01:00:46.719 --> 01:00:50.840 expensive to go back home. So I'm staying out here in Pennsylvania with Anton 877 01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:54.920 and Andy before I go out to the Super Slam this weekend where Oh gotcha? 878 01:00:55.119 --> 01:01:00.000 That's right, that's right. Super Slam is in uh Florida this weekend 879 01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:04.719 out in Jupiter. Oh nice. I think it's works every year, isn't 880 01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:09.320 it, Uh Johnny h to my knowledge, yes, I hope they host 881 01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:13.440 to stop every year in Jupiter, and the Super Slam is host seeing this 882 01:01:13.559 --> 01:01:15.239 year. Okay, gotcha? Got you? Got you? Got you? 883 01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:17.440 Yeah? Okay, Um, are you looking forward to that? I'm sure, 884 01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:20.679 And I know it's a unique thing they've done the last few years, 885 01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:22.400 but it's kind of a little fun gig. I know, I don't it 886 01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:29.320 doesn't count towards uh tour titles. Right, it doesn't, but it's specially 887 01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:31.840 be a part of it, especially since I was fortunate enough to get into 888 01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:36.760 the MM because everybody ahead of me in the show was a major

winner. 889 01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:39.280 So that's one of the reasons why I was able to get in there. 890 01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:43.960 But at the same time, it's uh the time to go out there, 891 01:01:44.119 --> 01:01:46.960 enjoy bowling, enjoy food, and enjoy the beach. Yeah, absolutely right, 892 01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:50.719 And Johnny, you were talking about that, like with the recent successes, 893 01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:53.400 everybody like, who who's not going to get into the Super Slammer. 894 01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:57.519 You know, I forgot how you phrase it last week, but it's something 895 01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:01.559 you brought up talking about Jacob was we was saying that because EJ had won 896 01:02:01.639 --> 01:02:07.000 two majors and Simo would won a major, we were trying to figure out 897 01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:14.559 if, since you were already in due from your second place finish, if 898 01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:20.599 Simo or EJ or you would have won the Players Championship, who would have 899 01:02:20.679 --> 01:02:25.760 been the other person? So infield, let's date back to the World Championship. 900 01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:30.360 So the reason why I finished fourth of the World Championship, but I 901 01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:35.199 was behind EJ, Simo and Belmo, so I was automatically in the Super 902 01:02:35.239 --> 01:02:38.800 Slam. So the way the scenario worked out was at the Player's champ ship 903 01:02:38.880 --> 01:02:43.360 only got to the final four. Basically it was gonna be a toss up 904 01:02:43.400 --> 01:02:46.960 between Kevin mckun and Bill O'Neill. Well, Kevin b Anthony and I ended 905 01:02:47.039 --> 01:02:52.800 up beating Bill. So because of that, the only way it worked out 906 01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:57.800 that Kevin would have made it as if Bill didn't get a tough well, 907 01:02:58.159 --> 01:03:01.840 Bill, he would have one. If the time much was Kevin and Bill, 908 01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:07.679 it would have been whoever won the match would would have gotten in well 909 01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:10.719 because I eat Bill no matter what. Kevin's in no matter what? Yeh, 910 01:03:10.719 --> 01:03:16.679 Who's like a playoff seating? Almost a like question is if you win 911 01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:21.280 the Players Championship, it's still have been Kevin, right, It's still have 912 01:03:21.400 --> 01:03:25.960 been Kevin. Ye that because Kevin was the highest remaining seed, because I'm 913 01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:30.400 already in gotcha? Okay? That makes sense? Okay, that makes sense. 914 01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:32.119 So what are you looking forward to for then? The year? I 915 01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:36.960 mean, obviously you're you're going to the PBA playoffs right at the end of 916 01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:39.239 the year, are you are you? Are you looking forward to? Uh 917 01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:46.119 to that? So I'm looking forward? Yeah? So we when I realized 918 01:03:46.199 --> 01:03:51.519 that I ended up making the Super Slam. I realized I'm already in every 919 01:03:51.559 --> 01:03:53.920 single summer event now at that point, I'm in the I'm in the Tour 920 01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:57.840 Finals, I'm in the PBA League, I'm in the Super Slam. So 921 01:03:58.679 --> 01:04:00.920 just more more team time. There you go, that's true. I mean, 922 01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:04.880 that's more TV time is always good. Um, what have you found, 923 01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:10.239 you know, working with with Fox? I know the commentators do a 924 01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:15.400 lot of a lot of prep before the show and I've seen on Belmo's YouTube 925 01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:20.119 channel of him sitting down with Rob Stone and uh and Randy, did you 926 01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:27.239 did you do that this past weekend? So like we were chatting before we 927 01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:30.480 went on TV sets, Like I would chat just to make sure I was 928 01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:34.000 ready to go, like on the top of the top of the hour interviews, 929 01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:38.400 make sure I was going to go before like when they were asking questions, 930 01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:42.800 making sure that was prep for everything's sitting out. Hey, you know 931 01:04:42.880 --> 01:04:45.440 you're not just trying to answer your questions right then and there. That makes 932 01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:48.760 sense. I mean, they do a lot of work and we typically we've 933 01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:53.679 given Fox a lot of crap on the show for for how they produced the 934 01:04:53.719 --> 01:04:57.400 show sometimes or part of it that but part of it was when it's only 935 01:04:57.480 --> 01:05:00.719 a certain couple of commentators too, when they have they do stand up jobs. 936 01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:03.519 When there's certain people and some just don't seem to have as much, 937 01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:09.039 seems like it's a running gag at times when there's important ship going on. 938 01:05:09.239 --> 01:05:13.440 But and whatever brings eyeballs to it. If somebody jumps in, I'm all 939 01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:18.880 for it. How does Kimberly Pressler look? Is this where I pull a 940 01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:21.840 simon On no comment? Yeah, that's probably a good idea. That's fine 941 01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:26.199 to realize that you say it now that we already know what your answer is. 942 01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:32.559 I think Kimberly Kimberly is she's an amazing person the way she she comes 943 01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:38.719 up before every show, like asking questions to make sure that the interviews are 944 01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:43.599 good to go every single every single show. And she's really good at her 945 01:05:43.679 --> 01:05:45.480 job. I'm sure she's probably got a lot of grief in the past, 946 01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:50.239 but she is. She's very good her job. She's very intelligent with how 947 01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:56.800 she's prepping

her questions and how the answers are coming out. And you can't 948 01:05:56.800 --> 01:06:01.519 blame that, Yeah, exactly, Well for that, Well, Johnny's gotta 949 01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:04.599 go so uh and then we suck. So we're not going to carry the 950 01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:08.280 show without him because it's it's his show. Nobody wants to hear us, 951 01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:11.679 but Jacob, we certainly appreciate you being on here man. Best of luck 952 01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:16.679 in the Super Slam and the playoffs and playoffs and the league this year. 953 01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:21.239 Um, it's uh, what's your Twitter handler? Now? All that fun 954 01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:26.719 stuff, let's get some plugs in here. Well before we saw on Twitter 955 01:06:26.800 --> 01:06:30.719 it's Jay Buttroff, the capitol JB and then everything else is the lowercase. 956 01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:33.559 Hopefully you know how to spell my last name. It took me a while 957 01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:36.000 to get used to it, but I'm I'm I don't know. And then 958 01:06:36.559 --> 01:06:42.280 it's just Jacob Butcher of three hundred on Instagram. You can't miss my bowling 959 01:06:42.320 --> 01:06:45.639 pictures. And then you got my athlete page on Facebook. So I know 960 01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:47.679 this is a super obvious question. But kids had to give you shit in 961 01:06:47.719 --> 01:06:53.480 school for your name, right, because kids are assholes? Oh? Absolutely. 962 01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:57.679 I mean there's a bunch of kids that demon will have to pronounced my 963 01:06:57.760 --> 01:06:59.719 last name. So they come up to me and try to pronounce it for 964 01:06:59.840 --> 01:07:00.880 me, and I was like, no, you're wrong, and I go, 965 01:07:01.079 --> 01:07:03.519 no, you're I'm right. Yeah, right right. I don't know 966 01:07:03.559 --> 01:07:05.760 how to pronounce my last name. Man, that makes sense. You have 967 01:07:05.880 --> 01:07:10.440 streak ball. You can probably talk to my dad. But you're lucky that 968 01:07:10.599 --> 01:07:12.920 I can't tell you the answer I want you right now, otherwise I get 969 01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:15.440 suspended. That's fair, that's fair. It's about the meanest Jacob will ever 970 01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:20.599 get. I love it. No, that's fantastic. Jabody likes me and 971 01:07:20.679 --> 01:07:24.960 Jacob trust me so many A couple of people see me and Jacob, so 972 01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:30.400 that's fair. It's calling jay Bone called mean Jacob jay Bone. Well, 973 01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:34.280 Stephanie and I saw your comment. Tell Amber that she really sorry. I 974 01:07:34.320 --> 01:07:38.920 didn't say hi. I wasn't one hundred percent it was her anyway. That's 975 01:07:38.960 --> 01:07:41.920 that's my send off at jpj R. Zero seven. But seriously, in 976 01:07:42.039 --> 01:07:44.239 closing, guys, I'm sorry that I do have to ditch out a little 977 01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:47.199 bit early tonight. But uh, Jacob, it's been a pleasure having you 978 01:07:47.320 --> 01:07:50.360 here, and uh, please come back and join us again in the future. 979 01:07:51.199 --> 01:07:54.920 Come back and maybe after you win Player of the Year next year, 980 01:07:55.840 --> 01:08:01.800 we'll talk about another entirely awesome good season. But absolutely and new shirts and 981 01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:06.679 take it away and finish everything up. But I gotta go and get clocked 982 01:08:06.719 --> 01:08:10.199 in. So thanks to all of our viewers for being here. I love 983 01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:15.560 you guys, and I'll see you later. Tgph. All right, Johnny's 984 01:08:15.560 --> 01:08:20.279 gone. We talk shit about him now. H No, seriously, Jacob, 985 01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:23.520 thank you for being here. Man. I know you guys have busy 986 01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:26.640 schedules and you got a lot coming up, but uh, and you know 987 01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:29.920 you are without blowing smoke up your ass here. You're one of the top 988 01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:31.520 bowlers in the world and we've been blowing smoke up his ass for the last 989 01:08:31.560 --> 01:08:35.399 half the last hour. Wasn't that intentional? Fiable? No, No, 990 01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:40.840 but it's just justified. Like I mean, well, we're not blowing' not 991 01:08:41.039 --> 01:08:43.840 used to, so let's telling them the truth. These are. This is 992 01:08:43.960 --> 01:08:46.840 the truth show. That's fair. We're just a shitty fan podcast. But 993 01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:51.479 you're a real big gut so we appreciate you being here. I love you 994 01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:55.239 guys for who you are. Guys are right now. Trust me. I'm 995 01:08:55.319 --> 01:08:58.760 like, well I say I'm humble. I'm not just humble for a good 996 01:08:58.800 --> 01:09:01.119 crowd. I'm humble for the bat crowd as well. So that's the best 997 01:09:01.159 --> 01:09:04.079 way I look at it. That's fair. And Ocho still has the biggest 998 01:09:04.119 --> 01:09:08.359 guns in the world, so that's not true. But second, so I 999 01:09:08.439 --> 01:09:11.640 mean seconds. Everybody here to chat. Thank you guys for showing up here 1000 01:09:11.680 --> 01:09:14.399 tonight and hanging out with us. We'll be back next week for another edition 1001 01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:20.880 of Straight at five with Johnny Patreglia Junior. Good night, everybody. Thanks 1002 01:09:20.920 --> 01:09:28.560 for listening to this edition of Straight Up Five with Johnny Patreglia Junior. You 1003 01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:32.840 can follow the show on Twitter at straight Up five Pod, Follow Johnny Junior 1004 01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:39.720 at j p j R Zero seven, Follow Rad Rob at rad Rob Gaming, 1005 01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:44.880 and follow Doctor Ocho at d d r Ocho. Got a question for 1006 01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:48.680 Johnny, Send your questions to Straight Up five Podcast at gmail dot com. 1007 01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:55.520 We'll see you next time for another edition of Straight Up five with Johnny Patreglia 1008 01:09:55.680 --> 01:10:08.319 Junior. Right here on the Red and Rob Radio Net MHM.