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[SPEAKER_01]: Tommy Jagai of fan set it here with NFL expert Marcus Mosher to discuss the NFL trade deadline.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are a week in counting from the deadline.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We know things really get hop in this time of year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We could see some big action around the league.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The cults have already been sellers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We saw Quentin Nelson on the move.
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[SPEAKER_01]: DeForce, Buckner, who is going to be next?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about the biggest names where I can see the ten biggest names.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, who could be traded at the NFL trade deadline.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm excited for what this week we could bring us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think you're seeing more and more teams get aggressive at the deadline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why we've, you know, just in the last year, we've seen quid and Williams traded.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen Jeffrey Simmons traded, sauce gardener like teams are trying to maximize these windows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that we've got four or five teams that have a realistic chance of winning the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And all of those teams have highly aggressive GM's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think you're going to see a bunch of moves here over the next week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, and this is you are tuned into the stack of the box.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No huddle show where NFL fans come to talk, celebrate and debate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's kick this off with a big one here, Jonathan Taylor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this one is, it has legs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this could really happen the culture sellers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've been abysmal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The offense has been terrible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jonathan Taylor wants to play with the competitor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got some trade value left.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For the right team, I mean, this is a player that could really make a difference, Marcus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you believe that Jonathan Taylor will get dealt before the deadline based on how things are going with the cults right now and do you have a suitor for him out there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, we know that there's several suitors who've had two coaches actually come out and basically say that they're actively trying to trade for Jonathan Taylor that would include Sean Peyton of the Denver Broncos who talked about it in the post game after beating the chiefs and they had John Harba who has been making calls to other GMs around the league trying to you know improve that roster I think Jonathan Taylor does get dealt now the latest update is that the Colts
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[SPEAKER_00]: got an offer for a second fourth run pick and instantly turn that down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They want more than that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, Tommy, I think they're going to get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that some team is going to come in there and give them a second and a third run pick because you have a team like the Broncos who could really use another running back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The giants are looking at the NFC East and they mean that they could maybe be the three seed in the NFC.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with a better rushing attack.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think Taylor gets dealt, and I think it happens before week nine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, at this time of year, it's the time to either buy or sell and some of these teams trying to compete.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Giants, very good shot to win their division.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Broncos, very good shot to at least be a playoff team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, it makes me wonder, like if he goes to Denver, what's the plan here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because you've got like a trio of running backs there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You drafted RJ Harvey, like is it just, the Jonathan Taylor show, and then everybody else just gets pushed
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think JK Dobbins played one snap in the second half against Kansas City, so he probably would be out of there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: RJ Harvey is on the injured reserve list right now, and I think he could maybe resume his role as a third downback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jonah Coleman was unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he was maybe the best player on the field outside of the quarterbacks in that match up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's just adding more talent to an offense that could certainly use it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and if you have a name like that out there that can give you a spark, then one of the best running backs over last five years or so in football, let's talk Brian Thomas Jr. a guy who has really been at the center of trade talks since last year at this time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, you go back to 2024, had the amazing rookie season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Liam Cohen came along, he did some awesome things for the offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they didn't exactly benefit Brian Thomas Jr. Now, he had nice touchdown reception this last game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But is it really, the two schools of thoughts here, Marcus, is the jags don't really use him very much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they're also a bona fide contender in the AFC right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You really want to trade away and ask that if a wide receiver were to go down, like, do you believe that Brian Thomas is going to get dealt before the deadline?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, for all the moves that you just meant, but I think that teams are calling about him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because there are teams like Pittsburgh in Kansas City and the AFC that could really use an outside vertical threat, but I just don't see Jacksonville giving him a way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I certainly don't see them giving him a way to an AFC team that they could potentially be competing with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's not a big part of this offense right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but you look across the NFL and there's just teams all over the place that could use receiver help.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if they're the right deal came about where they could maybe ship them to the NFC and get some draft capital that they could use to reinvest in their defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they would do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There are Jacksonville's offensive line as a mess as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They just lost their best defense tackle for the season Devon Hamilton.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't be surprised that they
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[SPEAKER_00]: you move some assets around to improve the trenches, but I don't think they're going to give Brian Thomas Jr. away for a song or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that if he is traded, it's for a very favorable offer in its to the NFC.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're going to trade them to any AFC team with how well the jags are set up to succeed this year in that conference.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Marcus, I keep going back to the Marvin Harrison Jr. trade.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Same draft class.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brian Thomas has actually been, it has a way better season under his belt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that anything that Marvin Harrison has really had.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we saw Harrison go for a second plus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there any team out there willing to offer that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if they were to offer the Marvin Harris and Deal, so I didn't think so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think Harris and Deal was really steep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You would you would have to at least consider that if you're the jags if someone went that high though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, if somebody's going to give you a second on pick or something ludicrous like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I think I think the jags would settle for just a day two pick, but he is not proven to be worth that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Over the last two years, you're looking at somebody who has 800 yards in 21 games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't run off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Be fair here, though, with Marvin Harrison worth what he got, no, but I think at least there's more upside with Marvin Harrison, the worse with Brian Thomas.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Brian Thomas is a vertical outside receiver who doesn't run particularly good routes and I think teams have major concerns about what he can do in his own coverage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was steep from Marvin Harris and Junior, but I don't think anybody believes in Brian Thomas Jr. like that either.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's fair, and I'm with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that he stays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go to a really interesting one here, Marcus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ash and Gentie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a guy that was drafted high in the first round.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just a bit ago, he's under rookie contract.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is in a new regime.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got the franchise quarterback, hopefully in place now in Fernando Mendoza, who'll get his opportunity at some point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: New coaching staff with Clint Kubiak, why trade gentie?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're the Raiders, can't he be part of that future plan?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or are you not satisfied?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you believe in Malik Washington Jr. like what is the idea here behind a potential and surprise Ash and Gentie trade?
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[SPEAKER_00]: just don't think he's very good on us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the biggest part of it in the Raiders told us that this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they went to Ashton, Jenty and said, hey, we're cutting your workload back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We want to make Mike Washington, the featured runner in this offense, Mike Washington against the Jets had 25 carries.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ash and Gentie had two and that was Ash and Gentie played the entire game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He played on the third downs Ash Gentie over the last 20 years is the least efficient running back in terms of EPA But per play among any running the back who has played.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not a good fit in a wide zone offense I think there's some dissension in that Raiders organization about even drafting him at six over all This is a coaching staff that doesn't believe that he fits a wide zone offense So could I see them trying to ship them out to some other team that maybe wants to use them more in a gap scheme
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty clear, they just think Mike Washington is a better player and that's why you're getting the splits that you're getting now or one player's getting 25 touches and get the ones getting two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I mean maybe maybe Marcus those Trent Richardson, Comps, floating out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe there's a little bit of truth to that where it's it is three yards in the cloud of dust.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like he is for whatever reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Trent Richardson with the cults was more efficient than what Ash and Gentie has been through two seasons with the Raiders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, that's that's really bizarre.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not like he hasn't gotten opportunity like up until this point season the half.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's got a lot of workload under his belt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think that Washington just fits that offense better than what Gen T doesn't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe maybe, Gen T's just not a very good player brings me back to that draft side note.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you take a non power school player, especially at the running back position, that high, you always got a question that I think people are going to keep that in mind moving forward too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I just, I don't think it's a great fit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, do I think they're going to sell them for a six or seven on pick?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't, but I could also see like a team wants to give up a third on picked and they could reinvest in their defense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wouldn't be surprised if they do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, keep an eye on that one for sure, because that could get really interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: if a team wants an impact defensive lineman jailing Carter look no further this guy was
so good as a rookie I think that he's taken a bit of a step back these last two years you know he's got some character stuff there's been a spitting incident before it's jailing Carter like this goes back to his Georgia days
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[SPEAKER_01]: Please really talented.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And typically, these guys don't become available at 25, 26 years old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you can get him here and lock him up not only to give you yourself a chance to make an impact defender this year, but also for the future, the Eagles should be sellers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They look like a terrible team right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're in a bad financial state beyond the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a team out there,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would because there's only so many players in the league who are as talented as he is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's 25 years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He just signed a big contract with Philadelphia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the part that makes it a little tricky is he's one of the highest paid defensive tackles in the league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the Eagles would eat a ton of dead money by trading him, but if they're able to pick up two first-round picks to go out and you know move them, I could see it and I could see teams who are aggressive like I'm going to give you a team Jacksonville that just lost their starting defensive tackle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could see Jill and Carter being moved because they've already paid Jordan Davis in Philadelphia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they try to keep more of more of a Jomo as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a really expensive defense and maybe this is the way that Harry Roseman tries to reset the roster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you were a contender and you saw like what Jeffrey Simmons did last night for the Bears, where he steps on the field and he's instantly, instantly, the best defensive player in that game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would not be surprised to see teams go out and try to get Jalen Carter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll give you another example, Tommy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dr. Lawrence,
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[SPEAKER_00]: did not play well last year for the Giants.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you look at all of his metrics across the board, not very good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He goes to the Spangles team and he's already made the difference in multiple games for Cincinnati.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Jim Carter could have a similar impact in the right situation moving forward.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the market was just that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Chicago Bears told you what they thought
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[SPEAKER_01]: a probal, all-pro level defense attack will should be traded for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking para for a strong picks, Jack and Ray Simmons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, you want to talk about similar in many ways, their play style.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They got a little bit shading his head in their past too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can go check out that out, but I just think in a lot of ways, they could be parallels of each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have two for a strong picks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You might be right on that asking price, especially when you consider the youth that we have left with jail and Carter,
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[SPEAKER_01]: what he can offer your team this year and beyond, is there a team that comes to mind?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there it like the bears already did that and they're what we just saw them see hawks like the bears are legit contenders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It you'd have to be true the right team because that's a lot of draft couple would give up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the AFC teams are probably the ones that would be the most intrigued here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Kansas City is a team that could consider it because of
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Chris Jones is really starting to show his age a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Jacksonville is probably the best destination to do that just because they could really use him up front.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I will not be surprised if Jalen Carter gets traded and we heard this off season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Eagles tried to trade Jalen Carter and a pick to go out and get Max Crossby.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So clearly, how he roseman is not afraid to trade this player if the right deal comes about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, keep your eye on him, I think the Eagles will be sellers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They realize their window is not now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've got a lot of unfortunate stuff going on over there in Philadelphia.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk wide receiver and one of the best and potentially most impactful players who can possibly be on this market even if even it's like I think this is a stretch potentially because if you're the jets like you're you're already loaded up on draft capital care Wilson is young he can separate like nobody's business you're going to have them still for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this would be an offer that would just have to blow their socks off for them to get rid of a receiver as talented as Garrett Wilson, but do you think there are any legs to this at all could Garrett Wilson actually be traded before the deadline?
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[SPEAKER_00]: potentially.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they're going to give him away by any stretch, but if the jets were blown away by an offer like they were last year with Sasqardner and Quinn and Williams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think they had any intention and trading those two guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got two first run picks for Sasq.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got a first and second run pick for Quinn and Williams.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They also drafted Omar Cooper Jr in the first round this year and he's played fairly well when he's been healthy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: AD Mitchell has played well over the last couple of weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They drafted Kenyans CD, they have weapons on offense, and if you can add some picks, maybe it's not even in this year's draft, maybe it's in like 28 to 29, and just continue to build up that war chest of assets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could see it, and Tommy, there are a ton of teams in the NFL who need receivers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is one of the themes of the season, is how few of these contenders actually have reliable number one receivers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're the jets, you can ask for the world and maybe somebody will give it to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, we're at the time of year where teams are willing to overpay to capitalize on a potential playoff window, and I think that we could see that come to fruition here, and I go back to the Quinn and trade markets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guarantee you asked anybody in the jet organization at the time, it's like, oh, we have no intention of trading this guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get six or seven years left out of them, and then the right offer comes along and it's like, all right, well, how can we say no to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe there's an avenue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: where a team could go out and give up a pair of first rompix for Garrett Wilson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think it would take?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what is the floor is a first and a second rompix?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's the floor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, I think it would cost more than that because he's on a very, yeah, very friendly deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's very young.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what it would at least start to have a conversation and again if you're a team I'm going to keep bringing up Kansas City.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're a team like the chiefs and you are in this window with Andy Reed, Patrick Mahalms, Travis Kelsey, Chris Jones, there might not be a price that's too expensive because you just saw you just have lost back-to-back games against Seattle and Denver where you could not throw the ball to your outside receivers when it mattered the most and you just don't want to throw
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[SPEAKER_00]: where like the AFC is wide open, but you cannot throw the ball with your quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Kansas City is going to make a move.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if they're bold enough to make this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll say yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a team saving type of move in Marcus and I want to go on a little bit of a sidebar here on the player that we just talked about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jalen Carter, you said a pair of first Garrett Wilson.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking point to start with a first and a second round pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Shouldn't be more expensive in a trade than Jalen Carter?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just that it's harder to find defensive tackles like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's only six or seven of those guys in the world that are that big, that strong, that athletic, and that's why the thing with defensive tackles is they age really well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at even someone like DeForce Buckner or Cam Hayward or Colleus Campbell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If these guys can play really well into their early 30s and mid-30s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Jeffrey Simmons of perfect example.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's 29 years old and he's only getting better as he ages.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's not necessarily true with wide receivers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's move on and talk about another receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You talk about an aging receiver that's been banged up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Chris Godwin, a player who I just don't see any sense of sticking around that buck and years organization right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We thought the bucks might have a chance in that wide open NFC South.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They look like a dreadful team and what they complete two passes over the last two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But listen, they are right now a second place in that division.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're second place, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, okay, why sell then like they're just they're not I mean, we know they're not good, but but should they be trying to to save this season and win
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I don't know because part of me feels like they have the best defense in that division by a mile.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they have the best run game, probably in that division outside of Atlanta, they were what were they all in four to start the season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now they're three and four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They, they absolutely destroyed Carolina last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They beat it, Atlanta this week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're starting to win some of these games in the division.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the reason why I think this might make sense for Tampa Bay is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chris Cobb and just I don't think he's a great fit in this iteration of the office because I think a mechabuka once he gets back from his injury, he plays in the slot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They have test Johnson and Ted Hearst who they are trying to get more snaps to every single game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Godwin just needs to go to an offense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's more high volume where he can be a full time slot receiver.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just don't think they want to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they want to run the ball and they have been really
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've run it so well over the last two weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would not be surprised if God would as a guy that maybe they try to move, say, some cap space, and get into a different situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this kind of feels to me like Marcus a team that if they trade God when they're trying to have their feet in both doorways, I understand not a great fit has not been the same player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that we've come to expect, but at the same time in Neckabit, at Bucas been injured, they can't pass the ball ready, so how what's this going to do to your passing
game?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you trade them, if I'm a buckspin, like honestly, could you get to the playoffs, yes?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to do anything?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That NFC South is really, really bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to get squashed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: by those other teams in the NFC this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would punt on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, that's just me personally speaking here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think that you have to at least consider him as an option for the reasons that you just outline there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they, in real quick, tape a bay probably feels like, hey, if we can get Baker healthy and with our defense and our run game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a shot and so we're going to host a home playoff game you never know you never know It's the cashier ticket into the tournament and see what happens type of thing I've been bitten by that too too much as a stealer span I don't give them any shot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what they can do though We almost saw the Panthers with an upset last year in the wildcard round so you never know all right Let's talk Kurt cousins here Marcus the only quarterback on this list and who on earth could really use a quarterback as a Contending team need a quarterback well, maybe
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's the Minnesota Vikings out there got a really good defense and they're starting down what's happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's going back to Minnesota.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, then who if not down the new because this trade only makes sense if you are a team that's trying to contend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So is there another option out there?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Baltimore makes some sense if you're just trying to survive until like week 17 to view you believe that you could make the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Philadelphia makes some sense in Sean Manion and Kirk Cousins are incredibly close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you just want to get somebody in there that can kind of steady the ship a little bit, I do think there will be some teams out there that are interested in Kirk Cousins because he's playing really good football and we know the Fernando Mendoza era is coming soon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if the idea is, hey, let's just flip them for a pic now, that way we can use it on our defense moving forward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Customs is one of the top 32 starting quarterbacks in the league, and I can bet you there are a couple of teams that would be interested in having him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't doubt that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for what it's worth, Customs is on pace for a great statistical season, although it's not always yielded results, obviously, for the Raiders right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I look at this a couple of different ways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, even if you decide to go with Mendoza, does it do more damage to get rid of that veteran presence in the locker room, who could be a voice in his ear?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that someone would have to come along with a pretty decent offer for 38-year-old quarterback at this point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not sure if that's going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The names you mentioned out there, the only one I'm remotely interested in would be the Ravens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can get Lamar back into the playoffs like it and that would assume that cousins can do enough for your team to overcome the defense and to jump into this new setting and to compete with the Steelers and the Bengals there and find themselves at least like in the wildcard race and so that's that's a big gamble on their part maybe a worthwhile gamble, but we were talking about a team that
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of void of hope right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Talk about one that's really void of hope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Philadelphia Eagles, I just don't give them much of a shot to do anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's just a, let's just try to at least get through the season developing our players because we can't do anything with Tiananmenki here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I think someone like Zac Bond could potentially be traded because we're talking about an older linebacker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If Philadelphia, like in Philadelphia loses this week, I mean, they're not coming back from that maybe you trade bond, try to get whatever assets you can because you're not going to be rebuilding around a 30-year-old linebacker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe that's a guy that could be out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's another player that I think a lot of teams would love to have.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is a shortage of linebackers around the NFL right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even some of the best teams don't have a good linebacker play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that that could really help us since Netty Bengals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of those teams really desperate for linebacker help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we've got two more names here, Marcus Breeze Hall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another one very disgruntled.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What was the whole social media
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[SPEAKER_01]: deactivating his account and we saw what Braille and Allen was capable of doing when kind of given opportunity there what's the gap between them?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they jets comfortable with moving on with just Allen and saying hey we're just gonna we're gonna get ready at this point you're not happy anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Bruce Hall just got a big contract this off season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it'd be a very, very favorable deal for whoever ended up trading him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a safe thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, maybe they just have come to the conclusion that Braille and Allen's a better football player, or at least he's a better fit in this offense and they try to move Bruce Hall to maybe the giants make sense if they don't land Jonathan Taylor or maybe the Broncos if they don't land Jonathan Taylor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Vikings are another team that would make sense for Braille and Allen considering their
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Green Bay, another one that we should mention, especially if Josh Jacobs gets suspended at another point given all the stuff that's going on with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there are a lot of teams that would be interested in Bree's Hall, keep an eye on that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and maybe a bit of a price spike because they'd be taking on such a favorable contract with the jet's paying a lot of those guarantees already, but I go back to that like I was just not a big fan of that extension is what it is at this point and you're starting to see maybe there's some some truth to that there's although you might be buying a draft pick that's that's the only good thing when you give out these big contracts and then you immediately trade a player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It ends up becoming where you can get a lot more back in a trade because the guy is under contract and you've paid the you know the signing bonus and all that kind of stuff Yeah, we're strategy in the world if you're the jets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it really isn't and I think in terms of that if you're good with the finances the way they are getting a bit better pick maybe you don't have any regrets about that extension either All right, and then one more here Marcus around out our list of 10
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[SPEAKER_01]: and that is Colts White receiver Josh Downs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a fire sale over there in Indy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't know what they're doing right now with their team, but they're not trying to compete right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is very evident.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Josh Downs could be out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the, maybe the, I want to say, worse, played around this list of the less the least impactful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What a guy who could still act as a
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[SPEAKER_01]: High end wide receiver 3, 8 mid level wide receiver 2.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Get them on the right offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A guy that can get six to eight targets a game potentially obviously does his best work from the slot he's undersized receiver at 59171.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But a guy that can get open and maybe can do some things for your offense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think if you're a team, I hate to keep saying Kansas City, but like, you could rent him for a year, let's say you trade a third-round pick, you let him leave in free agency next year and you recoup a fourth-round pick, it's not that bad of business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're seeing more teams be open to those kind of rentals, thanks Josh downs, while he's not a wide receiver one, I do think he can add some value to these passing attacks that absolutely need more wide receiver help.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, somewhat limited in his role.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's only average 10.9 yards per reception in his career.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of the six to eight yard reception and a few yards after the catch type of receiver.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he works this lot well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can do some things from there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if your team needs a slot receiver, keep an eye on downs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he does get doubt if I had to make a prediction before the deadline.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and they they want a third.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be maybe a fourth and maybe change after the day is that kind of where you're sitting at with down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably it sounds like they've already declined a fourth round or straight up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they get a little bit more than that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it's roughly in that range.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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