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So no, that was my main goal is just feel comfortable with the company and feel like this could be a place where I can have a career at.
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Welcome to SSR on Air.
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I'm Mike Rogers, your host for this monthly podcast brought to you by Smith-Sekman Reed.
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Tune in as I interview leaders, colleagues and clients about what is going on internally at SSR and in the larger engineering community.
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So thanks for coming today.
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And first I would say that those of you that have not listened to the first introductory one, when we talk about what we're doing here with the mentorship and things you should tune into that one first and then this one will make a little more sense.
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But today we got Sarah Presley and Alan Smith.
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I'll name it right out of the head.
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So, since you got your hair cut, it's like Alan, I know you and I'm like what happened to your hair?
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All right, well, alan, sarah, thanks for joining.
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Let's just start out maybe just introducing yourselves and what you do here at SSR, and then we'll talk a little bit more about what we're here to talk about.
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So, sarah, why don't you go first?
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Sarah Presley.
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I have been at SSR for oh goodness, 20 years.
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This coming summer I am the director of accounting.
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Yeah.
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That's it.
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That's all I got, that's all I do.
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You came here straight from.
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I went to UT Martin undergrad.
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And then I started here at SSR in 2004.
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And then I got my MBA and just I grew up here, okay, I was at home All right, very good All right, Alan, we'll bet you.
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So I'm Alan Smith.
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I am a sustainability consultant on the Boston.
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I've been here for two years in March and I'm originally from North Carolina and I've been in Nashville for about eight years.
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I worked with the school district prior to coming here and I did some residential construction, energy consulting for big home builders around the area.
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Yeah, prior to that, that was my first job in Nashville yeah, I think we talked about that before.
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It was a good history.
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Yeah, Painful history.
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Well, we all learned right.
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We all learned along the way, so that's good.
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So we're here to talk a little bit about the mentorship program that we have going on and laying out.
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We're going to lay out how we put people together and what the stories were, and how we kind of married you guys up in this process.
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So, from your perspective though, what did that look like?
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How did it start for the two?
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of you.
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Individually, individually.
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How did it start?
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Individually.
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I just wanted to be a part of something.
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I thought this sounded like a great idea.
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How can I get connected to someone outside of my group, outside of support services?
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Yeah, get out of that bubble.
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That's right.
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That's right Kind of get out explore operations, see what's out there.
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So I filled out the form and sent it off, and I actually filled out both the mentee and the mentor because I didn't know what category do I fall into.
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Let's see.
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Sure.
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And so then I got the email that.
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I got matched up with that one, okay, okay.
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We'll cover that in a second.
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Yeah, so how did you get pulled in?
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Sorry email.
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I don't think I'd been with the company that long and it sounded like a program to join so I just signed up for it.
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But when the drop down there wasn't anybody's sustainability Associated, like the categories.
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Yeah and I think it's on the Gallup poll as well.
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There's nothing like.
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It's like engineer Support, something like that and I did like.
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I think I did like admin support or something which is not my job title or anything.
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I guess I do some project administration, so I just kind of do the dart Mm-hmm with that one and got matched up with Sarah and, like I said, we don't have similar job roles.
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But I glad I got a mentor.
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That was great to know that I was accepting the program.
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Yeah, I think it's interesting how they, how they paid people up.
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I mean, it's it's personality, its experience, it's other things and in Some are unlikely, fits right and you're not sure how it's, how it's gonna work or why it works, and then it amazingly does so.
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So what's, what's the story?
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Tell us a little bit about your, your, impressions immediately when I got it and Looked up, I immediately emailed Jessica Like I don't know what this formula is like.
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What is?
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this about the chemistry.
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Yeah, how does this work?
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And then what?
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I talked to her again after we met for the first time and I thought I was like I don't know this formula, I don't understand it, but it works as.
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Different as we are as people, we absolutely clicked.
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Like the formula works.
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Yeah, yes absolutely 100%.
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For sure, I hope his thoughts are the same, yeah actually, eight months has been horrible.
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No, yeah, I got the email and I knew Sarah was because I've watched videos on the website and Sarah was in a video training probably a train or something but you know, all right, great cool, like that's cool.
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I mean, I didn't know what to expect right.
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It wasn't like I was gonna be someone on my team, right, so you know, went into it with an open mind and, yeah, when we first met we got a little bit.
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We have similar.
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We have a similar sense of humor in way like that's really been helpful, because I like to cut off and tell jokes that probably aren't appropriate and Sarah likes to listen to them and laugh at them and that's great.
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But no, it was great because we just started talking about Personality types and, like you know, we took the.
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We took personality type when we were in Are all in me recently for the boss team and I shared that and also the one that we took before we hired, like when I took that one, I remember taking it.
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Yeah, and.
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I was looking at the results and I was like but, then the hand.
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It was like no, you're fine, you're fine like you we are.
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You know your honor team.
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Clearly you're an associate.
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And I shared it to Sarah and she's like, and that's kind of when we started to get know each other.
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Profile personality yeah, I didn't really do it did either one of you kind of come into it with a goal in mind, or Is it set up to where you?
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You're thinking what, what am I gonna do with this and what am I gonna get out of this?
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So we actually talked about this just like an hour and a half ago.
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My perspective coming into it as a mentor was I wasn't looking to get anything out of it
for me.
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I was coming to it from a servant art place.
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I wanted to be able to Guide and support and be a cheerleader for whoever I ended up being cared with.
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So I wasn't looking to have this checklist of oh, I've got these goals, he's gonna help me get here, I'm gonna do this to me.
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It was Can I do for someone else?
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You know, like I said, I grew up here at SSR.
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This is my home.
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I'm gonna show that to somebody else.
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I want someone else to feel at home here and be able to grow and prosper into whatever it is that they want to do.
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Mm-hmm yeah.
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I'd say, knowing that Sarah had been at SSR for as long as she had and that's the only thing she's saying she's been here for a long time like that was very inspiring, because I've never worked at a company longer than two years, it's just coming up on March Eric everything's okay, everything's good.
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Don't go there, but Well, you're at the right place if you want to stay for a while, right?
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And so that was very helpful because I don't really have a role model at any of my jobs that had been there as long as, like you know, as like a career, and so it was like that was kind of my.
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One of my goals was like how do I get into a company and then get integrated and feel comfortable and like feel like you know, maybe this is my home and so like having Sarah being here that long and as successful as she's director of accounting, it's like okay, I've got someone that can be a good role model in that way.
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So that was definitely my one of my goals and plus all the other jobs I've had in Nashville have all been remote and so I've never really had an office to call home and I love coming to office.
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Like you know, we have, like you know, two days home and even when I started, when it was still work from home, I love coming to office.
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This is a great place it's.
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Once you get integrated and start meeting a lot of people, it can feel like kind of like, maybe like a third home.
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You don't call your second home but you're off this right.
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So no, that was my main goal is just feel comfortable with the company and feel like this could be a place where I can have a career at.
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So what's next?
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How long does this go?
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on what's the so I guess officially it runs through March is my understanding, and then I don't know what happens from there.
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I guess we just stopped talking.
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He'll say hi to me in the kitchen and I like he doesn't exist, that's good.
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Who's that guy?
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Who's?
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that guy saying that Nah, I mean, I think it was a great program.
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I don't know, like, what's going to happen in the program wise, but I mean, like you know, we've been talking for a year I don't think that.
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You know.
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We're just going to say all right well, no, I have an issue with my uh, my hours.
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I'll, I'll give you a call.
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And then she's like why are you calling me on the director of the county?
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No I mean I would love to be like you know, just keep the relationship going.
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I think it's great.
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What would you say to someone entering the program now?
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What would be your advice, your comments towards them?
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Well, I'd say, if you want to be a mentee, I would say, go in it, just blank, blank slate.
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Like, don't go in with any expectations, like obviously this is a program and you're trying to use it to better yourself within the company, have goals, but be flexible.
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Just go on that open mind because really, like, like I said I know this is like any P focused firm.
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I mean, obviously that's what we do here, but you know me being a sustainability consultant being mentored by the director of accounting, like you know, baby, on paper that doesn't make any sense, but clearly there's conversation and made a lot of sense.
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And so just don't go in with, you know, preconceived notions about what it is.
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Yeah, yeah, we're all growing and learning along the way.
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And now it's kind of like I said earlier is come to it with a servant heart.
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What can you do for someone else?
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Yeah, okay, I think that's good.
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Thanks for coming in and sharing.
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I appreciate it, it's perfect.
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So we'll start out maybe just quick introductions to you are and what you do in the company and where you, where you sit.
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Okay, so I'm John Ross.
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I am the program director for the vertical program, came up through the MEP service line for many years.
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I've been here about 42 years, so I've been been around a while.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm Kevin Rumbolt.
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I'm a project manager in our new building commissioning group.
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I've been with SSR about nine years, okay.
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And then new building commissioning the whole time, the whole time.
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Okay.
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Straight out of college and enjoy it every bit.
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You can project manager, currently with a mechanical background.
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Okay, out of Tennessee Tech.
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Yeah yeah, all right, all right, very good, very good.
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So how did you guys get involved in this program?
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What, what, uh, what prompted you?
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How did, how did you get rolled?
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up in it.
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You started I was with Jessica on the committee that kind of built it.
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What?
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The objectives of the program were what we were trying to get out of it, and obviously she's explained that now, so I won't go into that detail.
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But uh, that got us excited about it and I wanted to participate.
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So I was fortunate enough to be matched with John, and here we are.
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Okay, so you had, you had an interest from the very beginning about a mentor program, from the start, absolutely, and and in your mind when you started it out, was it not technically?
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based.
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Yeah, our initial conversations were, were an engineering firm first.
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So we tend to all of our mentors on a daily basis or on the same projects as you, dealing with the same problems as you, but it's also we kind of tunnel on those things.
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So the intent of this was to zoom out a little bit and focus more on development of our people and leadership skills and things like that, to hopefully build people that way.
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Brought a view of things yeah, excellent, all right.
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About you, John.
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Well, when we, when I heard we were- doing the program.
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I figured I've been here, I've seen a lot of things.
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I'm sure I've got something I can offer somebody.
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And I was excited about, you know, being paired up with some someone younger and offering some of the insight I've learned over the years.
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Yeah, yeah, okay, and they accepted me.
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Well, there you go.
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Your application was accepted.
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And so you guys, you know you filled out the application.
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They looked at your MRAs, they kind of paired you together.
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What was the?
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What was the first meeting like what?
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How did it feel?
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Well.
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So I came into it knowing that he had been on the committee, so I knew he was going to know exactly what we were doing and how we're going to go about it.
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And it was kind of funny because I think we both were a little unsure where this was going to go and what the outcome might, might actually be.
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So the first, first meeting, was really first couple was really just kind of getting to know each other personally.
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Yeah, just the basic we started the.
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I think first meeting was the basics of you know family, college, you know life so far at work and things like that.
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I think you you suggested maybe then we share the the MRA and go through kind of who we are and what makes us, or at least what the MRA says it does?
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Yeah, got to know each other a little bit better.
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Yeah, so share the strength, finder results as well.
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Okay.
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I've kind of been curious about the MRA thing.
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When you, when you looked at it, what did what?
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Did you see there a a divergent or commonality?
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What did you?
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What did you say?
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Um, was you know.
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So it's interesting because mine, mine is actually pretty old, it's well over 20 years old, and it might say something different today.
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I don't know probably not but what, what I saw in Kevin's was, you know, it really represented kind of what I had seen and very connected between you know, the two components, if you will, at work and at home.
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Yeah.
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So and it kind of described.
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So you know it's nothing incredibly new confirmation I guess.
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Yeah.
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Give us good talking points to you know, while we're getting to know each other and understand each other better.
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So it was a good starting place and and then by, I think, our third meeting at Cracker Barrel.
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That's where we kicked it off and had a deeper discussion went into a little more detail.
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Yeah, I think.
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I think we both the first meetings.
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It was a question of so what are the goals?
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And we got.
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We got to have goals and we weren't sure what they were.
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So we buckled down on the third meeting and had an extended breakfast, and you know, I mean, I kind of came in I said, well, let's, let's talk about something you know.
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I said do you, you know, in terms of goals, you know, is there something technical in your career that you might, you know, feel like you want to achieve, or whatever?
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I think you're telling kind of your response.
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You know that, you know you're very capable, still learning, but Sure, yeah, I think we found that I enjoyed more of the collaboration side of things, more of the people side of it, whether it was helping clients on the projects themselves or internally improving processes and things like that.
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So we kind of started with technical versus people, if you can break it down that way and then determine that I have more on the people side and want to want to get better there, so that was our first start, you know, breaking it from ambiguous and big US leadership and development goals and at least something a little bit more defined and then kind of went from there.
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Yeah, and you know it was interesting listening to him.
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What I really sense was that he really had an act for being situationally aware in project situations of what the all the stakeholders expectations were and at least just talking, hearing some of his project situations.
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You know he's, course always after making sure the clients expectations are met, but in the process trying to collaboratively do it with the group of the whole team members so that they all have success as well which I think is a very admirable frankly.
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And so this, this relationship kind of helped open that door or free you a little more, I guess, to just act on those things.
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You kind of been doing it a little bit as a young engineer.
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You're ready to step on toes.
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You know, even if you have great ideas, the reason things are done the way they are.
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So it's not always easy to bring them up and typically we're pretty busy so you don't want to volunteer.
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It's not easy to volunteer, so John helped me both.
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You know, bring it up the right way, but also carve out some time and delegate some things to make it doable, yeah.
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Well, and delegation is something that is very difficult for us to learn.
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Yeah, we want it done our way, and maybe our way is one way, may not be the only way and certainly Can be delegated, but it's a tough one.
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It's a tough one that
you struggle with your whole career.
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I mean, in every step of the way you get that delegation issue, you know, okay, what am I gonna give away?
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So well, that's good, that's good.
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So what's so?
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What's next?
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I mean, we're kind of are you in this, in this journey together, and where's it going?
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Well, you know it, it's been a year or almost almost, and so the lot, a lot of other conversations actually kind of took place, I mean yeah a lot of fun, I think.
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Just you know, just talking about the business you know being able to share at a higher level, you know, the things going on and I think you know.
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I felt compelled one time just gonna have an hourly rate, you know, overtime discussion, you know.
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How much you know yeah, just things like that.
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So it was kind of fun just to share things, that Some of what you may have known or may not have.
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But the other cool thing was just the perspective of you know, he's working on a project that has a smart building consultant.
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It's like, hey, do you know we have a smart building group, will Maxwell, and he said no, I didn't know that.
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And I said we need to talk about it.
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We're at the next day, yeah yeah, just making connections, that's just something I you know I'm in a position to be able to see opportunities for that, and so I think we've made a couple of connections along the way.
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Definitely and I think the, you know, ssr's sponsorship of this mentorship ends at the end of the year.
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But he's at Caddy corner of each other.
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It's not going anywhere and I've got a cell phone number.
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So I know I've got his work and then I plan to apply as a mentor for the next round, using what I've learned from John.
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Yeah, yeah, that sounds really good.
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Are you gonna go go in, for you said you go in for the next round and try to be a mentor on it.
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I will, john, you're gonna, you're gonna offer.
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I mean, I think one of the things I certainly have to offer is Just perspective on the company, if nothing else, yeah, Download, download.
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Yeah, it's really good.
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Good, all right, that's all I've got.
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