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corporations. 00:04:09.759 --> 00:04:12.319 Now, and we're gonna use the buzzword, yes, a data center. 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:12.639 Yes. 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:15.919 Now, again, data centers have been around for a very long time. 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:21.839 They're just recently in the news because of artificial intelligence and its need for even more storage. 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:24.160 But data centers have been around for a very long time. 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:26.639 You've had them in your communities for a very long time. 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:31.759 It's not a new thing, but it's just the rise of them has been a little bit of a shock for some people. 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:36.240 So and again, these like like Greg's saying, data centers are not always bad. 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:43.360 We we started to see this really bad upcoming of them because of super intelligence, the expansion of that. 00:04:43.600 --> 00:04:49.120 And you know, it is some hardworking machines for that that kind of work. 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:56.959 For your cloud storage, you're not you're not really having to worry, you know, your about your data being having that happen. 00:04:57.360 --> 00:05:03.920 My main thing I always mention with cloud storage and why I always suggest setting it up is because most of these are seamless. 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:08.639 So you don't actually have to go through and manually put your files in these cloud services. 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:11.839 iCloud for Apple automatically does backups. 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:18.800 Google Photos and Drive, I know through my Android phone, automatically backs up anything I download, take pictures. 00:05:19.040 --> 00:05:25.360 Microsoft OneDrive, anything that goes into a folder that you selected when setting up OneDrive is automatically synced. 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:39.279 There are a lot of things that I don't necessarily like about OneDrive, but that is one of the things that I do actually like a lot is that you can specify which folders that you want to just have local access to and which folders you would like to be able to have access to from the cloud. 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:41.600 They do make that fairly easy to set up. 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:42.160 Right. 00:05:42.399 --> 00:05:54.240 And the the thing I also like with cloud storage is the main thing I always suggest setting up cloud storage for is for just that day, that rainy day that you're you're driving your computer just may just crap out. 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:54.560 Yeah. 00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:57.680 If you want to learn more about that, you can listen back to our Saturday episode. 00:05:57.759 --> 00:05:59.199 They're on the Refresh Computer website. 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:20.079 Yeah, get some ideas of maybe if that's coming up in the future for you, setting up cloud storage may be a good idea because the drives that your data is stored on with these cloud services are monitored and maintained by a large corporation that I can say personally for myself has a much larger wallet to make sure my data is safe, you know? 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:22.560 They have that that's kind of the way I like to look at it. 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:26.639 It's somebody else's hardware responsibility for my data. 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:34.720 These companies, as far as I'm aware and I feel personally, your data is safe in these kinds of cloud storages. 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:38.079 I have never become victim of some sort of cloud breach. 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:43.360 I've never really heard of data cloud breaches, other than maybe account compromises. 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:46.319 So someone gets your email and your password and they can log in. 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:50.800 That's different from an actual breach, which is somebody getting into main systems. 00:06:51.120 --> 00:06:54.160 And yeah, throw a mass amount of accounts or some in some way or form. 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:54.720 Yeah, exactly. 00:06:55.279 --> 00:07:00.560 We've seen things like uh you see like the cloud flare accounts every now and again for some of these data centers. 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:07.439 But those are again mostly not compromising accounts, but actually just kind of restricting access to your accounts. 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:08.079 Exactly. 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:09.920 A little bit of a difference there, just want to clarify. 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:16.240 Yeah, and it's something that, you know, it's I want I I will put the the term the term on it, it's scary. 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:16.639 Sure. 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:24.879 Having the idea that your data is no longer being stored physically on your computer, it's being stored up in the cloud that you need internet access for. 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:30.800 There will be times that you may not be able to access the internet and you need a document out of the cloud. 00:07:31.199 --> 00:07:37.439 And that's why actually a lot of these cloud services offer you the option to sync both on your device and in the cloud. 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:49.600 So if your device is disconnected from the internet, you don't get the live updated file if there's been any updates made since your device synced, but you still have the copy of your files. 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:58.639 We always talk on this show about the need for backups and setting up a backup, it's you know, it's not just a one-stop thing. 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:01.920 You know, it's not plugging in a drive, setting up a backup, and going from there. 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:07.279 Having multiple backups, that's that's the the golden plan, I would say, to have. 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:17.360 Now, there is something you need to know with cloud storage, and it's just like any other service that we use nowadays, is not everything comes for free with these services. 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:18.480 That's true. 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:29.120 I will say though that for most people, right, the vast

majority of you listening, the free options offered by some of these companies are actually fairly decent deals for at least the time being. 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:29.439 Yes. 00:08:29.600 --> 00:08:33.440 Like we mentioned, data centers are going up everywhere and storage is becoming at a premium. 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:40.559 So these these capacities may change in the future, but at least for now, like what Apple offers you five gigs for free. 00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:41.440 I believe so, yeah. 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:44.240 Google Drive offers you 15 gigs for free. 00:08:44.480 --> 00:08:44.720 Yeah. 00:08:44.879 --> 00:08:52.000 And that's, you know, as far as cloud storage goes, sometimes depending on how you use your device, you could fill up that space pretty quickly. 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:52.240 Right. 00:08:52.559 --> 00:08:55.039 I know me, for example, I'm looking at my Google Drive. 00:08:55.120 --> 00:08:58.879 I've got 46, almost 47 gigs of space being used right now. 00:08:59.120 --> 00:09:08.960 And that is across my phone backup, my pictures, you know, documents, things that I have chosen to save into Google Drive, but also sync from my phone. 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:09.919 And that's one of the things. 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:17.600 If you're someone that does take a lot of pictures, for example, or a lot of or make a lot of videos, things like that, those take up the storage very quickly. 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:29.200 But if you're, like we mentioned, if you're like the vast majority of users with your computer and setting these backups up for your documents that you like to have saved and things like that, Word documents, Excel spreadsheets, things like that. 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:29.600 Right. 00:09:29.759 --> 00:09:31.360 Those do not take up a lot of space. 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:34.799 And you will have a lot of options when it comes to keeping those safe. 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:35.200 Yeah. 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:37.919 Now with cloud services, you have a couple options. 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:46.720 You know, if you do fill up that space, there is always the option of deleting what you don't need backed up anymore, possibly large videos or pictures. 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:56.559 And make sure that if you are cleaning out your cloud storage, most of those services do also have a trash can or a recycling can, just like your system does on the desktop. 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:00.000 That you will need to empty that for it to actually free up the space. 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:13.919 Or the other option, and this is an option I personally do, you can pay a monthly fee to basically rent more storage space from whatever store service you are going with for your storage. 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:16.320 Me personally, again, I stick with Google. 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:21.200 I have 100 gigabytes total that I can fill up, and I pay a dollar a month. 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:22.000 That's a great deal. 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:22.480 It is.

00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:33.600 You can't argue with with you know$12 a year basically for 100 gigabytes of space that has saved me at least twice now from losing a lot of stuff just from casually switching my phone. 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:34.080 Right. 00:10:34.159 --> 00:10:34.399 Yeah. 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:37.600 And you think about the uh the availability of an off-site storage like that. 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:39.840 You don't have to worry about if something happens at your home. 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:46.320 You're not worried about your external drive being plugged into your computer when there is a power surge or anything like that. 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:54.480 And it also, with that 100 gigs, think about honestly, the cost of having that external drive that could be a 100 gig external drive. 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:59.519 You're probably paying more for that than what you will for a full year of storage, about$12, you're saying? 00:10:59.600 --> 00:10:59.759 Yeah. 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:04.639 100 gig drive is going to cost you how much are you guys selling those for at the refresh computer superstore? 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:09.200 I can't even remember off the top of my head at the moment because most standard drives now are 256. 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:09.600 Right. 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:10.240 Yeah, great point. 00:11:10.399 --> 00:11:10.559 Yeah. 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:16.799 So trying to find, you know, storage that is cheap as that for that much storage, it's difficult. 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:27.440 But even going off the idea of having, you know, an external drive for your backups, normally a four terabyte external backup, which is 4,000 gigabytes, that's tons of space. 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:31.279 You're looking at, you know, almost$250 for one of those. 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:31.679 Right. 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:48.879 And if you only need the hundred gigabytes like myself, a tech file needs, you know, you're you're gonna you're gonna take a long time going$12 a year before you hit and and would break even owning one drive, that would probably fail within six to ten years, yeah, most likely. 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:49.679 Great point. 00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:51.440 So that's something to keep in mind. 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:54.559 Again, this is something that you would be renting space from them. 00:11:54.639 --> 00:12:00.879 So if you do cancel the files that are over and that extra space, you would have to offload. 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:09.519 But the good thing to note is a lot of these cloud companies will not approach you saying, you're almost that capacity, we will delete your files. 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:18.879 If you are seeing pop-ups again that are stating that you know they're gonna delete your files because your storage is almost full, it's most likely illegitimate. 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:19.279 Yep. 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:27.519 And and that's something I really want to mention is not all of these cloud storage nags that you see pop up are real. 00:12:27.679 --> 00:12:31.600 They even come up as spam pop-ups now on mobile on websites. 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:43.120 So if you're viewing a website through your computer or your phone, somebody can just post their own ad on this website to make it look like you're running out of storage and it's popping up on that site. 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:47.600 You know, it's nothing to do with the website hosting it, is the person renting that ad space. 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:53.200 And I've I have seen the legitimate ones where they're telling you that you're coming up on the full use of your space. 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:53.440 Right. 00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:59.679 They don't they don't say they're gonna delete your items, they let you know you're coming up and you won't be able to save additional items. 00:12:59.840 --> 00:13:00.080 Exactly. 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:02.879 If you'd like to expand your storage, here are some of our options. 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:03.200 Yeah. 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:08.080 They're not there most of these legitimate companies will not just start deleting your product. 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:09.200 So keep that in mind as well. 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:16.000 It's almost a friendly sales pitch, I'll put it, because it's not threatening saying you need to do this or we'll we'll get rid of everything. 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:17.360 It's just a gentle reminder. 00:13:17.519 --> 00:13:17.759 Yep. 00:13:17.919 --> 00:13:21.919 Hey, if you get to this, if you get to this max, you're not gonna be able to back up anymore. 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:26.720 But for a dollar a month, and that's you know, that's how they spin their That's how they got Adam. 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:27.840 That's how they got me. 00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:33.759 But again, you know, how I just laid it out numbers-wise, I've been paying that for probably the last four years. 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:34.879 That's only$50. 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:35.840 Yep. 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:36.960 I've had to pay for it. 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:39.519 And well worth it to be able to have that access to it, like you mentioned. 00:13:39.759 --> 00:13:43.519 Yeah, it makes it easier for me to switch phones because most of my important stuff is backed up there. 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:48.720 It gives me peace of mind as well in case anything happens to my phone or any of my computers. 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:54.879 Because I've I've gone through and set up my cloud storage, and the only one I still pay for is Google. 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:56.080 It's the only one I pay for. 00:13:56.159 --> 00:13:57.360 So I don't pay for any of them. 00:13:57.440 --> 00:13:59.840 I don't have a I've I've and I have a decent amount of data. 00:13:59.919 --> 00:14:00.879 I don't pay for any of them. 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:04.480 And I do and I do consistently have backups of a lot of my data. 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:11.360 And again, I select which folders that I

believe I need backups of, and that's where it makes it really, really accessible. 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:17.759 Coming up next, we're gonna talk a little more about refurbished business class computers available there at the Refresh Computer Superstore. 00:14:17.919 --> 00:14:27.519 And if a refreshed computer really does fit the bill for your needs, we're gonna talk about that coming up next right here on Tech Talk, WDBO 1073FM and AM580. 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:48.159 Hey there and welcome back to Tech Talk here on WDBO 1073FM and AM580 Orlando's news and talk. 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:53.120 I'm Greg Rhodes sitting here with Adam Littlefield on a Sunday from the Refresh Computer Superstore. 00:14:53.360 --> 00:15:01.039 You can contact the Refresh Computer Superstore by calling that free tech support hotline at 407-478-8200, though I may wait until Monday. 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:06.879 And don't forget you can use that open mic feature inside the WDBO app to leave all your comments during the show. 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:08.320 And now, back to Adam. 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:09.360 Well, thank you, Greg. 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:16.000 And again, thank you, everybody, including our Sunday crew, for tuning into this episode of Tech Talk with Refresh Computers. 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:23.759 If you missed any part of our last segment, we had a bunch of information in there about just cloud storage, breaking it down. 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:28.480 So if you missed any of that, go ahead and go on our website, refreshcomputers.net. 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:34.240 There's a podcast link in the top right corner, and you can listen back to this show and just tons of our other shows. 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:45.120 Um, going back years, and you'll also be able to view our full inventory of everything that we have, and kind of ties in as well to what I want to talk about now, is just the systems that we have in our store. 00:15:45.440 --> 00:15:53.519 The main computers that we really stock at our store, and these are the ones that I really put a lot of trust behind, are business class machines. 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:59.279 So that includes business class uh laptops or desktops, whichever you may prefer. 00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:05.279 These models, they they hold up so much better than the ones that you would get at a big box store. 00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:14.000 And really the cost of them is just just almost half, under half, I would say, even, of what some big box stores are charging for brand new machines. 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:18.879 We do have holidays coming up, you know, we've got the the end of the year, Christmas, all of that. 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:23.039 We do also have a bunch of new school semester starting up. 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:31.759 So there is just a huge need again for machines, and no better machine I would say to purchase would be there than there would be a business class machine. 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:37.519 I've even personally transferred over to owning a business class machine as my my personal laptop. 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:42.399 My personal laptop before I bought about eight years ago for about$2,000. 00:16:42.960 --> 00:16:52.559 And the laptop I was able to get that was refurbished and business class was a quarter of what that cost, and it's only two years old. 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:52.960 Yeah. 00:16:53.200 --> 00:17:02.960 So, you know, buying refurbished right now with how all of the tech market has been, there's no better, I think, time to look into getting a refurbished business unit. 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:08.400 We do a lot of the refurb, or actually all of the refurbishment in store at our location. 00:17:08.720 --> 00:17:13.519 I think that's key, is it's not just you guys flap a sticker on it after you wiped it down with a a Lysol wipe. 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:13.759 Right. 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:18.240 You actually do work on these computers to refresh them to bring them back to like new condition. 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:18.799 Exactly. 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:27.759 You know, we bring them back to about as new as they can be, just kind of clean them up, get everything just at replaceable that needs to be replaced, that might be worn down. 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:31.519 Brand new CMOS battery, that's one of the batteries that I see all the time dying. 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:34.640 Sol state as well, putting a brand new solid state in it. 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:39.200 We don't just keep it with whatever it's got and just push it out the door, you know? 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:41.920 So there's a lot of refurbishment that goes on there. 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:46.079 It makes a lot of us familiar with those business class machines as well. 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:49.599 And it makes us actually generally familiar with all machines. 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:59.599 The business class models, while they are just very friendly for repair, the consumer class models that sometimes they just don't hold up like these business class models do. 00:17:59.839 --> 00:18:05.119 I know one of the things that Dave always likes to mention is one of the key pieces to that is the hinges. 00:18:05.279 --> 00:18:05.440 Yes. 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:09.119 You see the hinges on those consumer class machines are usually made out of plastic. 00:18:09.279 --> 00:18:09.599 Oh, yeah. 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:14.799 They're one of the first things that fail after a lot of uses for some of these computers, and maybe not that many uses, honestly. 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:15.119 Right. 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:21.920 These business class machines, they might be a couple years old and they might have gone through as many uses, but those hinges are made from metal. 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:22.880 They have real contact. 00:18:23.279 --> 00:18:25.279 Yeah, normally titanium in them. 00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:32.000 And that's actually a very good point, is an inside joke that we all have at the store

talking about like HP laptops. 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:36.480 They are one of the most consumer-grade laptops we see hinge damage come from. 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:40.640 So I we we always make the joke that HP stands for hinge problems. 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:52.480 Again, consumer class, not all of them, but you know, there there are some of them that you you just pick up, and even just picking up the laptop, you can see the hinges sag on these consumer-grade laptops. 00:18:52.640 --> 00:19:00.559 Whereas the business class ones, I would not ever say do it, but you could throw it across the room and generally it'll be in the same shape it was. 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:06.559 Unlike the plastic uh consumer grade ones that you look at them the wrong way and they disintegrate. 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:16.960 We're gonna be getting to our uh break here, but when we come back, we're gonna be talking a lot about Windows 10 and uh some of the changes that they've been making that they have not really been being upfront with. 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:22.240 You've been listening to Tech Talk right here on WDBO 1073FM and AM580. 00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:43.279 Hey there, and welcome back to Tech Talk here on WDBO 1073FM and AM580, Orlando's news and talk. 00:19:43.519 --> 00:19:49.200 I'm Greg Rhodes sitting here with Adam Littlefield of the Refresh Computer Superstore with our Sunday crew. 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:50.720 Sunday crew. 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:51.519 There it is. 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:58.480 You can contact the Refresh Computer Superstore by calling that free tech support hotline at 407-478-8200. 00:19:58.559 --> 00:20:02.960 Or if you have a comment during the show, go and use that open mic feature inside the WDBO app. 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:13.279 Don't forget to check out the website over at Refresh Computers.net or stop in at the Refresh Computer Superstore in Longwood at 820 East State Road 434, just three and a half miles east of I-4. 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:16.000 Store hours are Monday through Saturday, 9 a.m. 00:20:16.160 --> 00:20:17.119 until 7 p.m. 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:18.960 And now for Adam Littlefield. 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:20.079 Well, thank you, Greg. 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:26.960 And again, thank you, everybody, including our Sunday crew for tuning into this episode of Tech Talk with Refresh Computers. 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:42.640 We're about halfway through the show now, so if you missed any of our last two segments, go to our website, refreshcomputers.net, click the podcast link in the top right corner, and you can listen back to this episode, all of our other episodes of just tech rambling from myself, Dave, and Greg. 00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:46.160 Just there's so much information that we just can get out in these shows. 00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:49.359 I would recommend going back and at least looking through them. 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:53.119 We do provide summaries of each show as well with the podcast on our 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You've done coming back. 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:37.839 I know a lot of our probably a lot of our listeners and a lot of just everybody out in the world just loved Windows 10, did not want to move to Windows 11. 00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:40.799 And uh how nice of Microsoft of them. 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:51.599 They they provided the extended security updates last year when they put Windows 10 into End of Life to basically give another year of security protection with Windows 10. 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:56.400 So anybody that hasn't moved yet, they're still technically safe because that is still being updated. 00:21:58.559 --> 00:21:59.759 And if you're looking at your calendar. 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:04.079 Right now, on your phone or something, you're probably seeing it's October 18th. 00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:08.160 You know, it's this is around the time last year that Microsoft did that extension. 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:18.079 But what they probably haven't told you, or you haven't gotten a pop-up for, is that the extended security updates program was actually extended now until October of 2027. 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:22.319 So End of Life was supposed to be October 2025. 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:24.640 And now they've extended it for two years. 00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:26.480 Like they made a big deal about this. 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:28.880 Not just, I know that we talked a lot about it on the show. 00:22:28.960 --> 00:22:30.799 It wasn't just us making a big deal about it. 00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:35.759 The reason we were making a big deal about it is because Microsoft made such a big deal about it. 00:22:35.839 --> 00:22:36.000 Right. 00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:39.200 And now they've pushed it off now for two full years. 00:22:39.440 --> 00:22:45.119 And, you know, I know that they had a lot of complications with the end of life for Windows 10 across seas. 00:22:45.359 --> 00:23:04.319 There was a lot of regulatory upset coming from, I think, Europe area that actually pushed this to

happen, this ESU program, but they haven't really made it apparent to you as a user that you're just getting another year for free of those extended security updates, so long as you were already enrolled into them. 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:10.880 Microsoft had and still does have ways to enroll your system into getting those critical updates. 00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:14.960 If you're wondering if you are enrolled in those, give us a call Monday morning. 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:18.160 Uh the number's 407-478-8200. 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:21.680 We can walk you through directly to the area of where you can check that. 00:23:21.920 --> 00:23:24.160 Only take a couple minutes to get there. 00:23:24.319 --> 00:23:32.319 And if you aren't enrolled, we can either help walk you through over the phone doing it, or you can bring your computer by and we can help getting you help with getting you enrolled. 00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:42.720 It's kind of quite an interesting thing to me, Greg, that you know, Microsoft has kind of kept pushing this back, uh this this end of full end of life with Windows 10. 00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:42.880 Yeah. 00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:47.039 Because you know, we're not getting bug update anymore, is we're not getting feature updates with Windows 10. 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:47.359 Right. 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:51.039 But the important thing is the security is still being updated if you're in this program. 00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:53.519 Which has been the main concern going into this. 00:23:54.319 --> 00:24:12.799 Again, going back to our episodes, which you can listen back to, that we were concerned about if people are accessing the internet, if people are going and downloading new programs onto their Windows 10 PCs, they had major security flaws that would be exposed because of those them no longer getting those new security patches. 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:13.119 Right. 00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:15.519 Obviously, Windows had those same concerns. 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:18.079 Microsoft, I mean, had those same concerns. 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:20.559 So that's why they've had to extend these out so far. 00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:21.039 Right. 00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:35.440 And you know, there there was a lot of noise that I will say was generated as well with the end of Windows 10 to Windows 11, because Windows 11's hardware requirements, you know, the the new security chip it needs, newer processor, all of this. 00:24:35.599 --> 00:24:40.079 There are were a lot of machines that we've talked about on the show that could not upgrade. 00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:40.319 Right. 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:45.599 Microsoft didn't make it too apparent of how to get yourself in their extended security updates either. 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:51.119 There were a lot of bugs with it in Windows 10, with it not even showing up sometimes as an option. 00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:56.880 But now they're not even really giving much communication about the security updates being extended. 00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:06.000 I have had, I believe, a total of two customers, two separate customers come in who got an email from Microsoft stating that they were being extended by another year. 00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:23.200 But of the two customers I've had come in, compared to the couple hundred I've talked to who think that, you know, their their system is now out of security because the the upcoming date was last this last Tuesday, you know, there's not a lot of communication with this. 00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:25.440 It's it's just very odd. 00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:34.880 It almost makes me feel like Microsoft is there's something in the background that's having them continuously extend this, but it it's almost feeling like they don't want to. 00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:35.279 Yeah. 00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:36.160 But to me. 00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:43.519 I think on kind of your point there, there's probably a lot of regulatory pressure, like you mentioned, especially overseas for them to have to continue this. 00:25:43.759 --> 00:25:53.599 But also, and we brought it up around the same time in 2025 that there were concerns about prices increasing at the end of last year that proved to be true. 00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:54.000 Yes. 00:25:54.240 --> 00:25:58.480 And that has put a damper on people being able to upgrade to these newer machines. 00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:03.039 If you're expected to get a brand new one, now you could always get a refurbished one over there at the refresh computer superstore. 00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:14.160 But for the people that were looking to buy brand new machines, the prices of those skyrocketed this year compared to where they were the months leading up to Microsoft saying, hey, this is end of life for Windows. 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:32.960 And as I have seen, as time has gone over the last couple of years, I've worked at Refresh, the quality of consumer grade laptops we have come come in, new consumer grade laptops, is on such a decline while the price on those brand new ones is going up so much faster than the quality is dropping. 00:26:33.039 --> 00:26:33.359 Right. 00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:41.359 You know, that's that's kind of a scary thing to see, me personally, because I always believe in, you know, right to repair, repairing your devices. 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:44.240 If you listened to yesterday's show, you heard me gawk all about that. 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:51.119 You know, it's it's important, at least to me, that if you buy these devices, you should have the right to repair them. 00:26:51.359 --> 00:27:03.359 And it I don't know, where Windows put this whole block on the Windows 11 upgrade that caused a lot of machines to not have a future besides running maybe Arch Linux or something like that. 00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:03.839 Right. 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:04.240 Yeah. 00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:14.559 And you know, for your everyday user, going through and installing some flavor of Linux, and I say flavor

because there's millions of them out there, you just it's it's not viable. 00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:15.119 Right. 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:22.160 Windows, it's it has just been the the everyday OS, the recognized OS on most computers, actually. 00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:31.920 You know, of course you do still have the the fair share of Apple computers, but you go into a new job and generally you go into your office, there's a 50-50 split. 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:35.599 If there's a computer being provided to you, it'll be Windows or it'll be Apple. 00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:37.759 You're not being sat down in front of something running Linux. 00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:41.039 Not typically, unless you're very deep into like the tech world. 00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:41.279 Right. 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:43.920 You're run you're you're the one running a server or something like that. 00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:44.400 Exactly. 00:27:44.640 --> 00:27:59.279 But yeah, no, there's uh like you said, there's so many flavors, and they are making it more and more accessible to do those things, which again might have been another concern from Microsoft on this side was that right, we're pushing people away with these computers that are still viable. 00:27:59.519 --> 00:28:04.160 Again, a lot of those Windows 10 computers are still very strong, well-running machines. 00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:04.720 Right. 00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:08.880 We're making them go to Linux essentially, because we're not gonna continue our support. 00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:15.279 And you know, we were talking about just the higher-up decisions that get made with, you know, everything going on like this. 00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:31.119 It could very well could be the idea, kind of what you're saying, Greg, is you know, they as soon as they put that final foot down for Windows 10, that's millions of machines that are gonna have to be converted to Linux or run the internet on an outdated version of Windows. 00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:31.680 Right. 00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:37.359 And I know to just larger corporations, you know, there there's so many things to consider with that. 00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:44.480 I'm sure Microsoft losing millions of machines running their their supported OS probably would not make their stock trader, their stockholders happy. 00:28:44.640 --> 00:28:45.359 I I can't imagine. 00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:46.880 I'm not a financials person. 00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:52.880 I have no way to confirm or deny that, but me personally, I know uh it probably would not end well. 00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:53.759 Probably a good guess. 00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:54.799 I think I'll give you that one. 00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:56.079 That's uh that's probably a good one. 00:28:56.160 --> 00:29:03.599 I and I again I'd I can't predict that there would be a mass exodus of Windows users moving to Linux. 00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:05.680 It's again, it's easier than ever. 00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:09.920 It's still a little weird to try and set up on a on a computer if you haven't done it before. 00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:15.440 But I would definitely say that it's it had to play some kind of part in them making this decision. 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:21.680 Again, we're not just talking about them making an off-the-cuff decision to do this. 00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:24.400 It's been an off-the-cuff decision to continue these updates. 00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:27.200 Yes, and and not telling you that they are continuing them. 00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:34.400 They had talked about end of life for Windows for a very considerable amount of time leading up to October of last year. 00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:36.640 It was a large buzz from Microsoft. 00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:39.119 It was all you were seeing on any of their social medias. 00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:43.359 You were getting pop-ups on your computer at home telling you that this is what was going to happen. 00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:45.839 You were not going to be able to use this correctly anymore. 00:29:46.079 --> 00:30:04.720 And for them to decide year over year now to continue these updates, it's surprising to me that Windows or Microsoft has not honestly kind of had issues even further with this about the next rollout of their next operating system. 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:08.400 Remember, Windows 10 was supposed to be the end all be all operating system. 00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:09.440 That's what people expected. 00:30:09.599 --> 00:30:14.720 This is the last Windows that you'll ever have to buy, they said, when they when they rolled this out. 00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:15.920 That's what it was supposed to be. 00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:16.400 You're right. 00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:20.640 And now they talked about end of life and putting it pushing you off onto Windows 11, right? 00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:26.480 Which was already a huge mistake to have said that at the time, and then make people go to another operating system. 00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:30.799 It leaves a bad taste in your mouth when you're told this is the last update you'll ever need. 00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:31.200 Right. 00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:33.759 And then now we're seeing end of life on the street. 00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:36.799 And they have to, but but they haven't said the same thing about Windows 11. 00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:39.200 They haven't said this is the end all be all operating system. 00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:45.359 You're fine moving forward because there's another one coming, and Windows 11 has to be coming up on near end of life. 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:47.200 It is an older operating system at this point. 00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:52.000 And that's something I've been tracking with the age that we are at in Windows 11's lifetime now. 00:30:52.319 --> 00:31:02.160 Historically, how Microsoft has done replacement OSs in the past 20 or so years, there has there should be some sort of news or talk by it now. 00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:13.359 And even from just certain pages I

follow, certain people I follow that are credible, you know, leaks for that sort of information, radio silence on it. 00:31:13.680 --> 00:31:18.400 Not a single word that they can say, oh yeah, this is coming up next. 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:29.200 So really, Windows 11 could be here to stay, but I think Microsoft doesn't want to make the mistake of saying that it will and have to then retract and go to Windows 12 or wherever we're gonna be going next. 00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:29.599 Right. 00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:36.160 Yeah, they'll have to come up with another random name like they have in the past of inserting in between nomenclature. 00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:38.960 It made sense to go from Windows 98 to Windows 2000. 00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:41.039 And then they did XP, and you're like, what does that mean? 00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:43.119 And they're like, oh well, let's go back to numbers. 00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:43.839 Exactly. 00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:48.240 And then they skip Windows 9 because there was internal stuff with that. 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:55.279 But if we ever have the the opportunity of a Windows 13, they'll probably skip it because that's that would be bad luck to them. 00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:58.960 So yeah, you got all their weird naming schemes with it. 00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:07.920 And the one thing really that with them not having any commu clear communication on these updates, it's bred a lot of scams coming out of it. 00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:08.240 Sure. 00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:23.359 The confusion that that this has been coming onto your computer, you know, now they're there's scammers that can give you a pop-up, or there's just a code call, cold call that says that you know your Windows has expired and you need to do this or that, and it's just another scam. 00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:27.359 I I hate to say it, but it it really has created an opportunity for that. 00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:31.599 Microsoft, I know it is a free upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 11. 00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:39.839 So if you're getting some sort of pop-up that says, hey, you know, spend$100 and your OS will upgrade to 11, 99% chance that's a scam. 00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:48.960 And the 1% that it's real, that there's somebody that that tries to upgrade it, if your system doesn't support it, it's going to run very, very badly. 00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:52.400 So something just kind of kind of put that out there, you know. 00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:59.119 Windows 10, end of life was last year, and the paddles were rubbing together last Tuesday. 00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:02.160 And and it's the security is still here for it. 00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:09.039 But the the scams are definitely coming with it as well until Microsoft actually says when the foot's finally being put down, I think. 00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:12.640 So are you someone that's sticking with the zombified version of Windows 10? 00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:15.440 I add a little Halloween twist on our conversation here. 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:20.640 Or are you someone that just aren't sure that your Windows 10 machine can be upgraded to Windows 11? 00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:22.319 Give a call to the Superstore. 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:28.559 Or you can head on into the Superstore over there at 820 East State Road 434, up there in Longwood. 00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:31.279 Now, there's all kinds of options for you moving forward. 00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:34.559 We'll see how those roll out with Windows in the future. 00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.759 Maybe uh unlucky Windows 13 in our future. 00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:39.839 Not so likely, according to Adam. 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:42.480 Coming up next, we're gonna talk a little more Elon Musk. 00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:43.599 We talked a lot about him yesterday. 00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:47.119 We're gonna talk a little more Elon as he debuted a new Tesla Roadster. 00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:52.720 We'll talk about it coming up next right here on Tech Talk on WDBO 1073FM and AM580. 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:14.239 Hey there, and welcome back to Tech Talk here on a Sunday on WDBO 1073FM and AM580, Orlando's News and Talk. 00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:18.400 I'm Greg Rhodes sitting here with Adam Littlefield of the Refresh Computer Superstore. 00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:26.880 You can contact the Refresh Computer Superstore by calling that free tech support hotline, but maybe wait until Monday at number 407-478-8200. 00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:30.880 And don't forget to check out the website over at refreshcomputers.net. 00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:32.159 And now back to Adam. 00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:38.800 Thank you, Greg, and thank you, Sunday Crew, for tuning into this episode of Tech Talk with Refresh Computers. 00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:46.000 As I always say in the show, if you missed any segments in this uh show, if you're just tuning in now, go to our website, refreshcomputers.net. 00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:51.119 You can listen to the podcast of this show and tons of other shows that we've done going back years. 00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:57.440 There's tons of exciting tech news that always tends to come up, and we always try to touch on it in these shows. 00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.239 Today, Sunday, it's another one of those days. 00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:00.559 Yeah. 00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:09.039 Because we had Elon Musk, Tesla, and SpaceX showing the new roadster, their their new roadster that they have developed. 00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:12.159 And it's we're in the age now of the flying car. 00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:12.719 Yeah. 00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:13.360 We are. 00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:14.079 It's crazy. 00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:30.159 It's crazy to see the technology, I think, strapped onto a car because automotives for a long time, it's always there's always been a clear divide between being a mechanic in the automotive industry and being in the IT world, you know, working on just computers. 00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:33.360 And this vehicle is

just the mashup of both of that now. 00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:35.760 And an aeronautical engineer at that point now, too. 00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:49.199 Because if if you saw the unveiling of that go live, I believe it was Thursday night, the this vehicle can hold itself upside down almost from its downward force it can generate. 00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.719 I was trying to figure out the different way to say that, but that's exactly what it was. 00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:54.239 It was upside down. 00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:55.280 Unbelievable. 00:35:55.519 --> 00:36:03.039 And the the more unbelievable part is the fact that they they strap cold gas rocket thrusters onto a car. 00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:07.679 And and and they were testing it, and I think the 0-60 was under a second. 00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:08.960 Under a second. 00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:12.719 It came off of this, it was it it looked unbelievable. 00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:16.079 It looked like it looked it would look a uh it looked AI generated. 00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:24.559 Or like if you go to like Disney World, if you remember like their old like light camera action show that they used to do the stunt show, it looked like one of those with like cables attached to a car. 00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:35.199 No, this car came off the ramp, upside down, did a barrel roll, and landed like it was one of Elon's booster rockets out there from the Falcon 9 launches out there at the Space Coast. 00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:38.800 It was the most unbelievable thing my eyes have seen. 00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:43.119 And again, we watch rockets land themselves here in Central Florida now. 00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:45.280 So it's just we we live in the future, Adam. 00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:46.079 That's all I can say. 00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:47.039 We we live in the future. 00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:48.639 The future is flying cars. 00:36:48.719 --> 00:37:04.400 You know, it's always been said in a bunch of different movies, and it this was just one of those fitting events for for what was shown because it also was a direct reference back to back to the future, where the event was being aired at 7:55 p.m. 00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:06.400 central time, I think it was. 00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:22.960 You know, like the clear nod there, right, right, talking about flying cars, but to actually see one it I'm I'm still in shock from seeing it a couple days ago because the amount of technological advances that you have to get to have a vehicle that can do something like that is one thing. 00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:29.440 It went from a stopped position, yeah, levitated into the air to go over traffic while again doing a barrel roll. 00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:32.000 Oh, it seemed to really like doing barrel rolls, by the way. 00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:34.400 Did a barrel roll and then landed perfectly. 00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:34.960 Right. 00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:43.760 And and as Tesla did with the first roadster that they flung into space, spaceman, he was also in this roadster as well through the whole the whole thing. 00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:44.639 Good for spaceman. 00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:48.960 And the thing that that gets me, the whole demo was automated. 00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:52.079 It was all automated through their driving software. 00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:56.559 It wasn't a human in the driving seat at that time because you know it is a demo show. 00:37:56.719 --> 00:38:05.679 If something were to happen, you know, it's it it taking the human element away, best thing that you can do for a car that has rocket thrusters on it. 00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:19.119 But the fact that you now have software that was then able to run it through some routine to do barrel rolls over traffic or off of a inverted flip, you know, it we're we're in a different age of technology, I think, now. 00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:26.719 This this is something that is going to be, I think, a fast change over the next two years when they said that production was going to begin on those cars. 00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:27.199 Sure. 00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:30.480 So now are they cars that you and I are gonna be able to buy? 00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:41.920 I don't think so, because just when we were getting ready to do the show, Greg, looking up, you know, the estimates of what they're looking at for these cars, there's four trims that they're gonna be releasing. 00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:53.599 And the one that has the full flight system, they're saying are not Tesla, but rumored is gonna be upwards of ten million dollars for a for a car that can fly. 00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:54.480 So not yet. 00:38:54.639 --> 00:38:56.000 Not yet, definitely not. 00:38:56.239 --> 00:38:59.199 So I believe we are getting to the end of our episode here today. 00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:04.639 I want to say again, thank you, Sunday crew, for tuning into this episode of Tech Talk with Refresh Computers. 00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:09.360 If you haven't tuned in on Sunday before, congratulations, you're part of the Sunday crew now as well. 00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:11.599 You don't have that choice, I'm sorry. 00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:20.960 We'll uh be getting you back getting back to you again next week with a whole new slew of uh tech news, and who knows, maybe we'll have time traveling cars by then.