Passing Time: Lions Draft Strategy EXPLAINED! Round 2 Steals + Brad's Interview - S2E48 - 4/16/26의 전체 녹취록

ultimately are we going to target the edge or offensive tackle in those first couple rounds of the 2026 draft? 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:39.759 So to me, this is a little bit rich, right? 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:48.000 Like, um, because I think you you hit a little bit of that cryptic talk, but like let's break it down on both sides of the ledger. 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:53.439 On player speak, are they starting caliber players, in your opinion? 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:56.160 Um, I think that we can get by, right? 00:04:56.319 --> 00:05:00.319 We can get by with guys like DJ Wanham across from Hutch. 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:05.600 I think Chris, I mean you talked to this a little bit that he is a step up from a Davenport. 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:16.160 Um in Madden's speak, you know, we talked about how DJ Wanum is like a 75 and uh Davenport's more like a 60 um in their ratings overall. 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:19.120 So um can we still upgrade from that? 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:20.160 Absolutely. 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:22.879 Um, but is that better than what we had? 00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:34.399 Yeah, I think we are going into a um uh a season where we're we're a little bit more excited about an edge, a rush edge across from Hutch than we were the year before. 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:37.920 Now, is it as good as a uh Zadarius Smith? 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:40.240 That's to be determined right now. 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:56.480 So now uh Larry Borum, on the other hand, um, I don't think that's a guy that you want to rely on long term, but we only signed him for a one-year deal, and he's a guy that has had starting, you know, starting reps. 00:05:56.639 --> 00:06:02.560 Um, so is he gonna be a guy that can can can fill a gap if we draft a guy until he gets ready? 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:03.439 Yes. 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:10.319 So so one thing that the Lions do have is a little bit more depth coming in this year, right? 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:17.759 Like there are more options in the interior behind Mahogany, who's right now the de facto other guard. 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:22.959 Um, and they they don't have a ton of tackle depth right now. 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:27.199 Um Borham is as the roster stands, is gonna have to be a guy. 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:27.519 Right. 00:06:27.680 --> 00:06:28.879 He's gonna have to be a guy. 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:33.920 And I I guess the question is is do you want him to be the guy? 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:39.120 And and Brad said uh in previous interviews, he's very comfortable with him at right tackle. 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:41.600 Um but does he have to say that? 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:44.160 So here's the other side of the ledger, right? 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:48.959 The lines are going in this draft and they want to be good poker players, right? 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:57.920 Like they don't want um a team to snipe, you know, the 16th pick to take out uh offensive tackle that they potentially might want to draft. 00:06:58.079 --> 00:07:09.120 So they have to look like they feel really good about their roster, and other GMs probably are reading into this a little bit, knowing that it's GM speak and it's coach speak a little bit. 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:12.800 Um, so could it be a little bit of both? 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:17.199 Is it one more than the other, or or where do we fall on this? 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:28.000 I mean, do we think that this is more GM speak, or do we think that, like, hey, we might actually be okay to go into this draft as best player available no matter what? 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:32.879 I mean, you know that Brad Holmes is gonna go into this with best player available on his mind. 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:39.600 He's going to go in, he's wanting football players, he wants guys with grit, he wants guys with character, and he wants guys that love the game. 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:44.480 Um, and he doesn't care if they're position of value or not. 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:47.279 He's gonna find his guys and he's gonna go after them. 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:54.480 And whether that's a safety or a linebacker or a running back or an offensive tackle or an edge, he's gonna get his guys, right? 00:07:54.720 --> 00:08:04.160 Um, and I think what excuse me, Larry Borum and DJ Warnham do is it allows you to be even that much more flexible with that. 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:10.800 So it still gives you that versatility to go after your guy in those first two rounds. 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:16.399 It doesn't, it doesn't pigeonhole you into I have to have a need and I'm going to force this need. 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:22.079 And he said that in his in his interview too, that you know it's it's awesome when the stars align, right? 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:27.439 When when a position of need matches up to the best player available. 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:41.279 And I I ultimately think that there's lots of guys, uh, maybe not lots of guys, but enough guys in that first round that fit the need of the Lions that still fit also that best player available. 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:46.480 And what that looks like could be still offensive tackle, it still could be edge. 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:49.919 Um, but we talked about a little bit last week or a couple weeks ago. 00:08:50.080 --> 00:09:04.000 I could it could be a Caleb Downs, it could be a Sonny Styles, it could be, you know, that linebacker, safety, corner, um, and some of those positions too that that we see kind of driving up the board a little bit. 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:12.639 So if something falls, if a Sonny Styles falls in that striking range, I mean that that's very interesting, and I think that that's the potential of the Lions. 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:16.240 You know that they're gonna go up and they're gonna strike and they're gonna strike hard to get their guy. 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:43.200 Um, this could be a draft where things fall to them, um, or this could be a draft where you they for the

first time in a while, as Brad's looking at himself in the mirror, he could say, Maybe I'm a guy that wants to trade back because I have a couple really you know, he talked about this in his segue to his talk about free agency approach, but if the gap is just this much between this guy and this guy, and they're gonna get paid this and this in free agency, the draft is the same way sometimes. 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:52.720 You know, if if the lions are sitting there and Monroe Freeling sitting there and Spencer Fanu' sitting there, and Vega sitting there, and and they're all sitting there at 17. 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:56.159 The Lions could say, you know what, like it's a pretty close quarters here. 00:09:56.240 --> 00:10:04.799 Let's go back and let's get uh a back end second round or a a couple of third rounders to trade back and get one of these key pieces. 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:33.519 And that's what like let's be honest, we're all dreaming for the for the the move back game picks, you know, get those three first round or three um the those first three rounds where guys are gonna contribute this year and you know make the Detroit Lions a better a better team, but then you also have that dream of like, hey, let's go get that top 10 guy that's going to change the game for the Detroit Lions and really push us push us over the edge. 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:37.759 So and it's it's a bit of the it's all the auto tickets, right? 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:41.600 And like, um, but you know, they have more information than we have, right? 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:45.279 So they're they they they've seen the first few digits on the Ever Lotto ticket. 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:47.840 We're we're still seeing the full scratch off over here. 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:57.360 Um, and if they have good information to move up, like you gotta trust your GM, you gotta trust that that they're gonna make that move, especially his track record in the first couple rounds, right? 00:10:57.519 --> 00:10:59.120 The first round in particular. 00:10:59.360 --> 00:11:05.840 Um what did Brad say in his last interview, kind of about like the free agency and kind of where we're at? 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:08.879 And we're gonna get more into the draft, and that's where we're gonna spend the majority of the time. 00:11:08.960 --> 00:11:11.200 But let's let's kind of finish out that Brad Holmes interview. 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:11.519 Sure. 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:34.320 He I mean, he continued to talk about like having those constraints financially and having to go into that finding guys that were high upside, one-year deals, financially responsible, that we're still able to come in and pay our guys or at least have flexibility to pay our guys moving forward. 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:45.279 So in the free agency, he he made it known that we're not done, that we're continuing to look to get better, we're continuing to look to to add, we're continuing to look to to tweak. 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:49.600 Um, and I think that that's a a way that GMs have to always look at that. 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:54.240 And then and Brad Holmes, let's to his credit, um, has done that throughout the season. 00:11:54.559 --> 00:12:00.639 It doesn't like free agency for him does not stop once the draft hits, it doesn't stop after the draft. 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:10.799 You know, you look at UDFAs, and I was talking to Bill today, and he's like, hey, do you know how many UDFAs we have on the 69-man roster that we have right now? 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:18.080 I was very surprised to know that was like 25-ish guys that are UDFAs that are currently on our roster. 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:19.840 So I'm gonna that that surprised me. 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:34.799 I mean, these this are stuff that we're we're constantly looking at, they're constantly adding, finding guys that that might contribute, whether that's practice squad, whether that's special teams, um, or you know, somebody that's going to push um for a starting position. 00:12:34.879 --> 00:12:36.879 So yeah, that it's interesting. 00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:42.720 The way he talks about it, I'll go into an analogy here, and this wasn't a personal family example. 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:47.279 Um, but what it kind of feels like, I grew up in a divorced parent household and we were poor. 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:54.960 And it kind of feels like uh my dad married a rich woman, and she comes in and is like, well, you know what? 00:12:55.039 --> 00:13:00.799 Like you now you have rich people problems, you've had poor people problems your whole life, family. 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:18.159 Now I come in here and like now, like you're you're you're kind of crying about a lot of things, but like you got your Nintendo 64, you got you got a big TV on the wall, and now yeah, your dad and I fight about this and that, but like, hey, you're lucky to be in this situation because I put you in this situation, and that's what Brad feels like. 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:22.799 He's like, hey, you guys were the the old lions, and that sucked. 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:25.679 I've dragged you guys to this situation. 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:36.159 Now we have new situations to go through because we have rich people problems about organically retaining our players through the cap constraints of the NFL. 00:13:36.559 --> 00:13:40.320 But rich people problems, I mean, we want to be there, right? 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:41.519 We want to compete. 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:51.919 We don't want to continue to year after year fall into the the same old lion realm or the the you know where the draft is our Super Bowl. 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:58.240 We don't we we no longer want to live in that life, we want to to take that next step in order to compete. 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:06.799 Um, and we don't we don't care about winning the offseason, we care about winning the regular season and then in the postseason and then and then beyond, right?

00:14:07.039 --> 00:14:12.639 So that's where I I think that Brad Holmes has yet to have proven himself. 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:14.240 He's proven himself in the draft. 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:15.919 Let's give him the that credit. 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:20.080 He's proven himself um in you undrafted free agents. 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:33.519 He's proven himself that he he can make certain moves, um, but has he proven himself to take us to that next step to compete for that that that Super Bowl? 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:37.039 And he's proven that he goes out and gets like a cultural fit. 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:43.519 We we rarely ever see a guy that comes to Lions that is like really outside of the Lions culture. 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:52.320 And that and that's where you look at some of these guys in the draft, and you this is the time that the smoke starts to cabillo out of the building, right? 00:14:52.639 --> 00:15:02.159 Where that guys that have anything on their track record, it it comes out because you want to see those guys fall, or you want to avoid somebody else from picking them. 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:13.440 Um, and it and I I go back to the the Jalen Carters of the world who character-wise was questionable, but when it looked like him as a football player, dude, I wanted him on my team, right? 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:21.519 So you go back to are we going to pick a you know a guy like that to be on the lions? 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:32.399 And and you've heard statements from Dan Campbell and Brett Holmes before who's like you can you can have one, you might be able to have two guys in your locker room like that, but you can't have a locker room like that. 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:33.200 That's tough. 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:34.799 And I'll give you another analogy here. 00:15:34.879 --> 00:15:37.440 Like, you got this beautiful woman, but she's crazy. 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:42.799 Yeah, you want to like get out of your car at the restaurant with this beautiful woman, but like you don't want her to talk. 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:50.240 You don't want her to like act out, you just want to like usher her to their table, have her be quiet, and have everybody see you with this beautiful woman, right? 00:15:50.320 --> 00:16:23.840 Like, um, and that's that's a little bit like have you ever seen the the crazy the hot crazy that how I met your mother, like hot crazy, oh the the matrix uh just still makes me get I think Brad's trying to avoid the crazy like he's gonna he's gonna take you know uh uh you know uh NFL draft seven looks-wise as long as they're on the zero crazy spectrum versus taking a 10 with a 10 and um some of those Georgia guys with their driving records, like yeah, it was just a they they were they were gonna avoid that. 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:29.919 Um speaking of you know situations, you know, there's a Terry and Arnold situation that you talked about. 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:32.879 Um you want to get into that a little bit? 00:16:32.960 --> 00:16:35.279 There's an Alex Anzaloni situation that they kind of talked about. 00:16:35.600 --> 00:16:37.440 You know, they've talked about both those things. 00:16:37.519 --> 00:17:06.480 You know, it sounds like Alex is a willing and more than wanting to speak his mind in regards to you know the the the outs uh as it goes from Detroit to Tampa, um, but that he still has a real good relationship with guys on the team and he still has uh nothing but great things to say about Dan Campbell, but that the front office had a fine made a financial decision in order to move on from him, that Dan wanted him in the building, um, but financially they just couldn't make it work. 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:08.559 So, you know, it is what it is. 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:10.559 I think that that's part of the business, right? 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:22.720 And those are some decisions that GMs are gonna have to make um beyond what the the head coach really wants, because we all want all of the good players, like that that makes sense. 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:28.720 Um, but financially you know constraints you know limit us from having all the good players. 00:17:28.880 --> 00:17:49.680 So um and the Terry on Arnold thing, and um it sounds like nothing more has come to light that they have a good understanding of what that looks like, that the no charges have been have been um brought against Terrian Arnold, and as of now, as of now, um he's still gonna be CB1 or two. 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:56.000 So I I feel like on the quarterback spot, you know, as of now, we're sitting in a pretty good spot. 00:17:56.160 --> 00:17:56.400 Okay. 00:17:56.640 --> 00:18:03.680 Obviously, there's a lot of questions in marks with safety right now, with health and availability throughout the course of next season. 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:09.680 Um that said, do you want to put is there anything else left to be said on the Brad Holmes interview? 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:18.960 Um you kind of thought it was a little bit more of a nothing burger, just like GM speak, uh I'm focused, I'm skipping meetings, um, I gotta get this right. 00:18:19.200 --> 00:18:22.160 You want to put a bow on this, or you feel pretty good about where we're at? 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:24.240 I feel pretty good about where we're at. 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:24.720 Alright. 00:18:24.880 --> 00:18:27.359 You have anything else you want to address on that? 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:33.680 I I did think that Chris brought up like a little bit more of a concern from Brad. 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:54.559 Like you brought up a little bit more of like, and I I I don't necessarily I didn't see it as much because I saw a little bit more of that combative piece, but you're bringing in a little bit more of that idea that some of that combative piece came from more of a need to get it right or a need to to tighten down the hatches and not let things leak. 00:18:54.880 --> 00:19:05.920 Um I think he's trying to go back to

his roots a little bit and just say, hey, there's been a lot of noise, a lot of stuff, but I want to go back to what I've been good at, and I think he's concentrating on that. 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:10.079 And I I think he's like you look at it early on, he was he's really good. 00:19:10.240 --> 00:19:18.079 And I know that early on this offseason there was some debate right now on whether Brad Holmes was a better scout or he was a better GM. 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:24.480 And I think right now, like, be the best scout you can be, because um, this is the time to be that scout. 00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:26.960 So and there's people to help with the GMs, right? 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:29.359 Yeah, there's a lot of resources there. 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:32.799 I mean, getting the draft right really goes a long way, right? 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:37.599 To to and I I don't feel like he's mismanaged the cap either. 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:40.400 Like he's been a pretty good cap manager as well. 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:55.039 There's been a couple free agent signings, or there's been a couple draft picks that haven't been gone perfect, but um look through every GM's closet and they're gonna have a couple Misfits outfits that they've donated right away to you know the local goodwill, and that's just that's just the way it works, right? 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:58.640 Um that that being said, let's let's kind of transition. 00:19:58.720 --> 00:20:02.240 Okay, um, the way we set this up, I'm actually gonna switch it up a little bit. 00:20:02.480 --> 00:20:10.880 I'd like to get into um talking a little bit about the first round, what we're seeing as far as potential. 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:22.559 So again, I'm gonna run through the first round a little bit, and I'm gonna talk about what we're expecting and what are some other options out there, right? 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:24.799 And and some of these are gonna be quick. 00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:38.319 And then what I want from you guys is I want you guys to just say, like, hey, like, um I want you to interrupt where there's a guy that you think potentially, you know, could fall in the lions' lap. 00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:51.359 Or I want you to let me know when there's a guy that potentially um if he gets drafted, you know, previous to that number 17 number, that this is a really good thing for the Lions. 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:54.720 And then I'm gonna even go past the Lions kind of projected pick. 00:20:54.880 --> 00:21:05.039 And there's a few guys there that obviously, like these are all mock drafts, they're all completely inaccurate, that would be really good if he got steamed up or if there's a run on a certain position group. 00:21:05.200 --> 00:21:05.359 Sure. 00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:14.640 And let's just kind of dissect round one and and not go as hard um on the picks that are pretty far away and locked in that are not gonna be in the lions territory. 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:15.839 Okay, that sounds fine? 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:16.880 Yeah, let's do it. 00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:23.119 All right, so 101, it's pretty consensus that Fernando Mendoza's gonna go to the Raiders, right? 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:26.960 And like, um, and that that's really where the consensus stops, yeah. 00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:30.799 Which is gonna be why next Thursday is gonna be a lot of fun to watch, right? 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:39.680 Like, because I'm gonna talk about number two, and uh honestly, the number two I've seen less than 50% of the mocks right now, it's Arvell Reese from Ohio State. 00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:45.039 Um, I can see the Jets going David Bailey probably more often on mock drafts than than that. 00:21:45.519 --> 00:21:53.680 And I and you look at um Aaron Glenn and taking over that defense and what he wants to work with, and you know what we've seen as as Detroit fans from that. 00:21:53.759 --> 00:21:58.640 Um, and David Bailey might be a better fit for the for his type of uh of defensive of scheme. 00:21:58.720 --> 00:21:59.759 So and and David Bailey. 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:02.240 Probably a little bit of a safer pick, right? 00:22:02.319 --> 00:22:11.039 Arvell Reese is you know, for for a guy like Glenn, like he might as well swing for the fences because I feel like he's a sacrificial lamb in New York, anyways. 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:14.880 But um, so you go to the next pick, Arizona Cardinals take David Bailey. 00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:18.799 Um, other really good options is Mauioga, Spencer Fanu. 00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:31.839 They need offensive line help, and this is a really like they're gonna take probably a D end or or or a tackle, both positions that the Lions could use, and they're gonna kind of eat up one of those spots, right? 00:22:31.920 --> 00:22:32.400 Yep. 00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:34.480 Um, we go to the Titans here. 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:37.039 The Titans, it's all over the place. 00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:42.799 Um, you've got a guy like Sonny Styles sitting out there, but um, and and in this, they they go Jeremiah Love. 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:44.559 And and that's a good question, Mark too. 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:53.039 I would love that they take that that running back at that spot too, because again, allows one of those better players to to drop down the board a little bit. 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:54.079 So no doubt. 00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:57.519 Um, so you go to the Giants all over the board. 00:22:57.680 --> 00:22:59.759 Consensus right now is Sonny Styles. 00:22:59.920 --> 00:23:08.720 Um, in this case, the Giants, uh Mansewer Delane, who uh is a really, really good cornerback, potentially a lockdown cornerback. 00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:10.480 It's pretty high to take a cornerback. 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:14.720 Lions fans, we have a PTSD from taking cornerbacks in the top five. 00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:23.599 Um, but that this you know, cornerbacks coming off the board early and often is a very good sign for the Detroit Lions.

00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:28.319 Um go to 106, you know, Sonny Styles coming off the board. 00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:32.319 In this case, we we kind of mocked a trade where the Cowboys move up. 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:37.279 But Sonny Styles really um probably is gotta be a top six player. 00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:39.920 If something doesn't happen there, somebody's gonna move up. 00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:41.119 And he's a game changer. 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:49.200 He's one of those guys that if he's anywhere near that 11, 12, 13 mark, would the Lions be willing to move up to grab him? 00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:51.839 Or um does he fit that scheme? 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:53.359 I it doesn't matter at that point. 00:23:53.440 --> 00:23:55.119 You you make a scheme to fit him. 00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:57.039 He's one of those kind of players. 00:23:57.119 --> 00:23:57.680 So yeah. 00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:01.200 Uh 107, you get into another DN Ruben Bain Jr. 00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:02.079 out of Miami. 00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:02.640 Love him. 00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:03.839 Um, a game wrecker. 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:10.319 Um, but you know, somebody that we as Lions fans don't think we're gonna have the ability to draft, anyways. 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:15.599 Um, other guys, you know, the consensus, if you look at mocks, you know, Caleb Downs is kind of right there. 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:16.079 Yep. 00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:18.799 Um, and then you go to 108, the Saints. 00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:26.880 Um, you know, the the Saints would love Jeremiah Love to fall to this spot, um, get their new Alvin Kamara. 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:30.160 Um, Jerma McCoy, cornerback out of Tennessee. 00:24:30.319 --> 00:24:36.559 So you're starting to see here in this particular mock that there potentially is a little bit of a run on cornerbacks, which is good. 00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:36.880 Yeah. 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:40.880 Because then you start steaming cornerbacks up a little bit, a little bit closer. 00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:46.480 Um, other options here, you know, would be like a Carnell Tate or something like a Caleb Downs. 00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:50.960 Uh that's 108, 109, uh Kansas City Chiefs taking Caleb Downs. 00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:58.000 Um, they would love uh potentially uh Ruben Bain fall into them, Amawiaga fall into them. 00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:08.400 Heck, uh they're you know what with Travis Kelsey being old, um they might even like a Kenyon Sadiq sitting in the spot, which would also be a really good thing in this case. 00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:17.359 You know, Caleb Downs, who's a guy that like safeties don't typically get they're the guys that fall and fall and fall. 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:25.519 And we talked about as Lions fans that this guy, potentially because everybody's so reluctant to take a safety, could be an option for Detroit. 00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:28.240 Yeah, so we start getting into this gray area right now. 00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:32.400 Yep, and and Caleb

Downs, you know, is not one of those positions of value. 00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:39.759 Um, but if he is a Brad Holmes guy, if he's a Dan Campbell guy, then he doesn't care about the position of value at that point, right? 00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:42.400 So yeah, so so Downs off the board. 00:25:42.559 --> 00:25:47.200 Um, the Bengals at 110, Keldrick Falk, D end out of Auburn. 00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:51.119 Again, a guy that's been all over the board on these mock drafts. 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:55.039 I mean, I've seen him getting drafted, you know, mocked in the Lions territory. 00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:55.519 Yep. 00:25:55.759 --> 00:25:57.359 This would be an interesting one. 00:25:57.599 --> 00:25:59.599 Um good player. 00:25:59.759 --> 00:26:03.440 Um, they need to replace a highly coveted DN. 00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:05.039 They need help on their defense. 00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:06.240 It makes a lot of sense. 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:14.720 And it's interesting because they didn't they draft Shamar Stewart last year, which would he at all pan out exactly the way that they were hoping for? 00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:15.279 Maybe. 00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:18.880 Um, you know, still young, still developing, and still trying to figure things out. 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:22.799 So they also perpetually need O tackle and O-line help. 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:26.480 So that could hurt us too take either of those positions. 00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:33.359 So they are a team that potentially kind of hurt the lions a little bit because they need, I mean, they need a lot though. 00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:38.559 I mean, you could see them going all over the board, and they're not a highly functional front office, right? 00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:42.319 Like they've got their issues, so they're a little bit of a wild card. 00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:47.039 Speaking of wild cards, we get to the 111 here, Miami Dolphins. 00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:52.160 They are gonna struggle this year, and it doesn't matter who they pick. 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:55.759 Um, in this case, Mauioga falls to them, right? 00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:57.119 At 111. 00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:01.680 Um, you you can see him in certain mock drafts going at four. 00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:04.000 Got a big hole with borum leaving. 00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:04.319 Yep. 00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:08.720 They gotta you know, borum's a a big hit for them. 00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:12.240 So um they gotta start somewhere right now, right? 00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:15.359 And like um, you can see him go offensive line. 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:20.559 I mean, down in South Beach, they they seem to like the sexy, flexy wide receiver or something like that. 00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:24.000 So you got a lot of guys on the board with Mikhail Lemon. 00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:30.480 You got and that's and to be honest with you, that you might see a little bit more with a mobile quarterback. 00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:36.640 Um, now you might see the lack of skill

positions that the Miami has right now. 00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:42.000 Let's cross our fingers and hope that uh a skill position falls off the off the the board right there. 00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:46.480 So so in this particular case, they're not falling off the board yet, right? 00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:48.799 But all it just takes one. 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:53.680 Yep, and then all of a sudden you start getting a run because those wide receivers are all sitting there, right? 00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:59.279 So a tease, you go you go you go to 112, and Carnell Tate's off the board. 00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:12.559 And this was the Cleveland Bowns trading back with the Dallas Cowboys earlier on in this particular mock draft, um, taking Carnell Tate, which is gonna kind of start the run on wide receivers. 00:28:12.880 --> 00:28:16.400 So the very next pick, you got Mikai Lemon coming off the board. 00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:19.519 The Rams probably could use a wide receiver. 00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:26.960 Um, they've got an aging guy, they got a guy that, you know, Puka Nakua who's turned into a little bit of a little bit of a diva. 00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:29.680 Yeah, he's shown up on TMZ a little bit too often, right? 00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:33.680 Like you got to show up on ESPN a little bit too often, not TMZ. 00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:42.319 Um you got Stafford at the end of his career, like weaponize him as much as you can, space that out, give it one more run. 00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:44.400 They're a really well-run organization. 00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:49.119 And they still have a pretty solid young defense that is still up and coming. 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:52.079 So you go to 115, you got TJ Parker. 00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:58.240 Beginning of the last year, TJ Parker was a consensus top six NFL draft. 00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:02.480 Clemson just everybody on their team decided to poop the bed. 00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:11.680 Um, you know, Kate Klubnick was a probably a top 10 quarter quarterback coming in this draft, and it seemed like all those Clemson guys have fallen. 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:15.200 TJ Parker um fallen a good 10 spots. 00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:16.799 He's mocked all over the place. 00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:19.200 He's a very highly talented guy. 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:26.319 Um, if he came out after a sophomore year, probably you know getting mocked real, real early. 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.640 In this case, I've seen him anywhere from like 12 to 28. 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:31.119 Yeah. 00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:35.680 Um, other other options, there's a lot of other options in this spot. 00:29:35.920 --> 00:29:40.880 Um as we get to 116, we're getting close here. 00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:47.839 Um, in this case, uh Cleveland Bonds trade up and they get Monroe Freeling. 00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:52.319 Um they need offensive tackles, the Lions need it. 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:57.039 The the telegraph passes out there, there's still a lot of guys on the board. 00:29:57.359 --> 00:29:58.480 This would hurt, right? 00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:01.200 As a Lions fan, you want all those options there. 00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:10.240 Um, in this particular case, you know, Freeling coming off the board as a prototypical left tackle would, you know, play some hands here. 00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:19.519 Well, I but that uh it does allow us still quite a uh quite a large cup worth of offensive tackles. 00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:33.599 There's still several of those edge players that are still available, plus um, you know, a couple other of those, like those guys that maybe not as much of that position of value that they're still on the board there. 00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:40.799 So speaking of a guy on the board that's been mocked anywhere from like seven all the way down to the Lions is Spencer Fanu. 00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:52.559 Offensive tackle from Utah, a guy that can play outside, he can play inside, elite athlete, um, could be a he can go in there and compete with Larry Borum right away. 00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:54.799 If he beats him out, he beats him out. 00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:57.039 If he doesn't, he can beats with Christian mahogany. 00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:58.319 If he beats him out, he beats him out. 00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:04.079 If he doesn't, he's a guy that flexes all over that offensive line and really could help the Lions out year one. 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:09.680 And you kind of put him in permanent marker year two as a permanent fixture with the Detroit Lions. 00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:17.839 That's fair, and and that uh solves one um one of those those tackle positions uh you know here moving forward. 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:20.720 The other tackle locked down by Pinnae Sewell. 00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:31.519 Um, yeah, Tate Rallege, you have Cade Mays for at least two, three years, um, and then your weak length then is is Christian Mahogany or you know the the depth behind him. 00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:37.599 Um to me that that's a that's a solid pick, and and going into that that that solves some issues. 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:56.960 So if you're if you're still listening here, we're gonna go all the way to about 24 because I think that's kind of an area we want to focus on for some of these guys that the Lions potentially they're gonna be around for the Lions, or the Lions could pick their guy, and then we're gonna talk, we're gonna criticize this board a little bit and talk about some guys that can move up. 00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:01.119 So Vikings pick Caden McDonald, defensive tackle out of Ohio State. 00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:02.079 That would be great. 00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:06.079 Actually, if Caden McDonald goes, you know, 16 or above, right? 00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:08.640 That's really good for the Lions. 00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:18.480 Um, another guy that'd be, you know, I don't know, the Lions could use a safety, but Dylan Thieneman out of Oregon to the Panthers at 119. 00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:23.839

Um, again, a guy that's talked about right in that range, could go above, could go below. 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:29.200 Um I I don't think the Lions are gonna reach for a safety back there. 00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:39.759 If if a Caleb Downs falls, they might be intrigued by that, but I don't think they're gonna fall in love with uh a particular safety that's a back end of the first round guy. 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:45.599 Um getting to 20, um, Peter Woods um uh out of Clemson. 00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:56.079 Tackle um get to 21, um Vega Leone and Interior Offensive Leman out of Penn State, and I'll let Brian talk. 00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:57.680 Intriguing pick right here. 00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:02.160 So because um the Lions do have a need at offensive tackle. 00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:14.880 Um, we talked a little bit about how uh Brad Holmes talked how Larry Borum has starting caliber starts already under his belt, that he could still be a starter going into the 2026 season. 00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:41.599 And maybe our our weakness is a Christian mahogany at left guard and a guy like Vega coming in and being able to start from day one, not miss a B, put him next to a Panay Sewell at who we move from right to left tackle, put him next to a Cade Mays, who's an upgrade from Graham Glasgow, put him next to a Tate Ratledge who is in year two and gonna be a Mauler. 00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:51.920 You know, that looks scary, you know, and so you look at a weakness at right tackle with Larry Borum, who still has some starting um experience. 00:33:53.200 --> 00:34:00.160 Man, those those four guys uh across the the O line do change the game a little bit. 00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:06.480 Uh I mean, would be a very, very intriguing pick for the Lions. 00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:11.119 And I I think let's go back and let's get into that in a little bit. 00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:16.079 I'm gonna quickly kind of round out you know um a few other guys. 00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:27.039 The uh interior offensive linemen out of Texas AM, Chase Bisontis, I probably slotted that last name, to the Chargers, a guy that could be on the on the radar as well. 00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:40.960 Um, interior offensive lineman, Eagles go, um, another name that's really difficult to pronounce Arizona State uh offensive tackle, uh Max EO Anchor, um, I I believe. 00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:53.039 Um, but so I think you know that middle round um right around the line sponsored a run on some of these interior, exterior, offensive linemen. 00:34:53.199 --> 00:35:03.920 Um, and then you got guys on the board like Omar Cooper, um, Malachi Lawrence, you got you kind of rounding out the KC Concepcion, CJ Allen, uh Kenyon Siddiq. 00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:15.440 Um, those are all guys that are still on the board, and we haven't even talked about um Caleb Lamu, who who hasn't been picked, and then who's the Blake Miller out of Clemson? 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:22.239 Guys that are still haven't been mocked, um, and Blake Miller's kind of consensus like 130 area. 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:27.440 So though lots of lots of really intriguing options. 00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:33.440 Um you know, in my opinion, though if those wide receivers, they all gotta go. 00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:34.719 They gotta go early. 00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:56.639 Um and and to be honest with you, you know, you might see the Miamis, like we said a little bit ago, take somebody, maybe even you know, earlier on, um, being able to get some of those guys off the board um to allow the Lions to have the their pick of of again alignment, need as well as best player available. 00:35:56.719 --> 00:36:07.599 So so rooting interest right now, if you hear KC Concepcion's name called um before 17, that's a really, really good sign. 00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:25.360 If you hear Omar Cooper's name called before 17, if you hear CJ Allen's name called, if you hear Kenyon Sadiq's name called, those are all guys that you should be Emmanuel McNeil Warren, who actually would be a really Brad Holmes-esque safety out of Toledo. 00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:35.039 The dude is just an absolute brawler, and and I don't know if Toledo is like DBU these days, but like um what they're putting out is is unbelievable. 00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:35.840 That would be great. 00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:38.800 Also, you know, and uh a guy like Ty Simpson. 00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:40.719 Quarterbacks get steamed up. 00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:49.360 We never want to believe that these guys are getting taken, but um, you nail a quarterback in the in the first round, you get the five years on them. 00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:53.039 Um you secure your GM spot for another extra couple years. 00:36:53.280 --> 00:36:55.920 Those are names that we want to root for getting pushed up. 00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:57.119 Getting pushed up. 00:36:57.440 --> 00:36:59.599 Is there anything any other names that you hear? 00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:02.960 And then let's break down kind of Brian's crush next. 00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:07.360 And then kind of what your top few guys that you're really hoping that fall. 00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:15.840 No, I mean, again, I want I want the Lions to be able to have their pick of the guys that they've evaluated and have moved up their board. 00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:25.360 Um, I I I'm very interested to see uh what the Lions have as first round caliber players and how they've rated them. 00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:35.280 Um, you know, because I know that last what was it in 2023 they talked about how how they were able to get four first round caliber players in the first two rounds. 00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:44.000 Um I just I'm I'm intrigued to see what their their synopsis is on those first cat first round caliber players. 00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:45.679 So yeah, I mean I I agree with them. 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:47.760 They got four first round caliber players. 00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:50.480 I think last year they got two first-round caliber players,

right? 00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:53.199 Like they got Tate Rattledge and they got Tyleek Williams. 00:37:53.280 --> 00:38:04.639 And and to Tyleek Williams, I think was going to have a showing after we didn't need him to have all of the the pressure on him in year one. 00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:19.519 And I think that now having learned from DJ Reeder and Roy Lopez and having a healthy Aline McNeil next to him, and I think that those all are they're gonna be things that are gonna help him become even a better player and uh and show his true worth as a first rounder. 00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:22.880 So kind of reminds me a little bit of the Jack Campbell. 00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:28.480 Like, we didn't we didn't need you to like absolutely shine year one, but man, year two, here you go. 00:38:28.639 --> 00:39:06.480 Yeah, and like and like and I think you could see a big step forward, and that's fair, and and I think we talked a little bit about this off the pod too is guys that we may see Brad fall in love with that we may as as evaluators don't don't necessarily see the the Blake Millers might be one of those guys that you know might not be the sexy pick, it might it might be guys that are being mocked in the 20 in the mid-20s, but at 17, you know, that might be very appealing to Brad saying, hey, this is a high floor guy, guy that we can plug in at right tackle right away to compete with Larry Borum, and right away he he might be moving ahead, right? 00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:11.599 So um just a guy that it's almost Taylor Decker-esque on the right side, right? 00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:13.920 So just consistent for 10 years. 00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.360 So yeah, that might be a uh might be a good pick for him. 00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:29.920 Uh, you know, those those not necessarily as sexy picks that we might not have the Proctors or the Freeling name to them, but uh that just might fit the grit that the Lions are looking for. 00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:38.960 And and you know, that name, Blake Miller, was a name that you guys both independently came in talking about about being a Brad Holmes esque pick. 00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:46.159 Is there any other names that are out there that you're kind of thinking in that in that range that could be a Brad Holmes esque pick? 00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:49.360 Uh my crush, and I I've already spoken to it a little bit. 00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:50.960 Are you gonna reveal it now officially? 00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:53.360 Oh big Iowan is my crush. 00:39:53.599 --> 00:40:04.880 Um, he is not necessarily the position of need that we're all like we all would would would mark as we need an edge or we need an offensive tackle in the first two rounds. 00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:08.800 Um, but I think he does just the same to fill that need. 00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:29.039 Um I think that he is a guy that just fits all of the the characteristics, the the the height, weight, speed, the the malar, the all the things that you want in an interior offensive line, he's that guy for me, and he would be an amazing lion. 00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:51.440 Uh any crush on your your end or I'm I'm surprised Blake Miller wasn't mentioned in a lot of these, but also I think McCoy kind of goes along with the Jameson Williams, you know, like one of those guys that would be a lot higher had he not been injured, and that's a kind of a brand home Brad Home specialty of like, hey, this is a top 10 talent, I'm getting him here. 00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:53.760 I might I might pull that trigger. 00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:55.360 So I just wouldn't be surprised. 00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:57.519 Well, Gerard McCoy's been all over the board. 00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:05.360 I've I've seen I've seen him mocked uh I've seen him mock top ten, I've seen him falling in you know past 20. 00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:09.920 Um you're there is a high risk, high reward with with a guy like that. 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:12.000 And he doesn't care about that. 00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:13.679 He doesn't care. 00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:15.199 He doesn't care about that at all. 00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:21.920 So um and there's guys out there like Ruben Bain could be a guy that that that drops. 00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:37.280 I mean, this is I I to me this is one of the most fun drafts I see coming up, and and I'm so intrigued to go into here and and come to you live uh next Thursday on YouTube uh based on Brian's technology. 00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:46.559 Um and just be there to like be so wrong on this because this is a very after one, it's a very open draft board. 00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:47.119 There's tiers. 00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:51.039 There's 10 guys getting drafted two to 12, right? 00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:51.440 Right. 00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:56.880 And don't be surprised if if 17 is not the pick, right? 00:41:57.039 --> 00:42:06.719 That that's what you know we may be saying, hey, these are the guys that might fall to us, but we all know Brad Holmes isn't a guy that waits around too long for his guys, right? 00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:09.760 He goes out and gets them and he spends to get them, right? 00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:23.679 So um if he has a first round grade, a guy that he thinks is going to be somebody who is a football player that's going to fit the grit, that's going to fit the character, that's gonna fit the need, um, he's gonna go up and get him. 00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:26.639 So rooting guide. 00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:29.280 Casey Concepcion. 00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:30.079 Yes. 00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:31.599 Ty Simpson. 00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:33.280 Please before 17. 00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:35.039 Omar Cooper. 00:42:35.119 --> 00:42:35.440 Okay. 00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:40.239 Um any guy tagged with a wide receiver next to it. 00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:44.239 I mean, Kenyon Sadiq, but Chris, you talked about like wouldn't be mad. 00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:45.280 Wouldn't be mad. 00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:54.159 That would be I mean, the Lions offense would

just have to be just uh they would have to outpace everybody, right? 00:42:54.239 --> 00:43:02.559 Like you're basically saying like we're we're just gonna outscore you if you put your eggs in a tight end basket, especially a super athletic tight end basket. 00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:06.400 Yep, and it's yeah, we talked about this as well. 00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:12.000 We need to get some sort of return at some point for a Sam Laporta if you're gonna make that pick. 00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:32.159 So um other names that could potentially you want to root for, um, and and maybe some of these names we can talk about um as we get into Brian's kind of round two synopsis of what um potentially is gonna be around for the Lions and what they can target um in round two. 00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:46.079 So, Brian, do you want to get into a little bit of your deep dive sure round to um so the lions right now in round two are picking around at 50, um, and we do not have a third round pick. 00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:52.079 So ultimately, if at that 17 and that 50 pick, we need to get two starters. 00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:54.239 Um, two guys are gonna contribute. 00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:56.159 Let's let's get right away from starter. 00:43:56.320 --> 00:43:59.760 Two guys are gonna contribute in this year's um, you know. 00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:07.760 This year's roster that are going to compete for spots that are going to add to this team in some way, shape, or form. 00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:08.800 And what does that look like? 00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:13.440 I don't know I know we've talked in depth that it needs to be O-Tackle Edge, right? 00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:14.719 O tackle edge. 00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:17.679 What does that look like when it gets down to 50? 00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:21.280 What's going to be available at those two spots at O Tackle Edge? 00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:30.239 A couple guys that I that I looked at, at least at those two spots, are Gennings Dunker, Iowa, Tackle. 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:35.519 I know he's talked a little bit about being able to be versatile, move interior as well. 00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:42.639 But that's I think a guy that could be that right side tackle and develop, compete. 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:44.079 You got bored for a year. 00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:49.039 And you got borum for a year, but but Dunker might be that guy for um for next year. 00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:49.440 Right. 00:44:49.760 --> 00:45:02.480 So the lions go safety, they they surprise you, they go tight end, they go uh DN, they do something different, and then that's a guy that they could target in the second round to really kind of fill that role. 00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:03.280 Absolutely. 00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:07.519 Um another guy, uh Zion Young. 00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:12.800 And I know that there's some some also some some baggage that comes around with him. 00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:13.840 Still a captain. 00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:21.119 But still a captain, still a guy that that um has production, um, has some experience in starts. 00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:26.159 Um somebody that I think would fit very, very well across from Hutch. 00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:35.840 It's just whether they're willing to add somebody with with you know some a wrap um on his sheet, and that's come up um a little bit as well. 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:44.079 Um Malachi Lawrence is a guy out of LSU um that also could fit um that edge roll again. 00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:51.280 And uh, and then you look at um Moore from from Michigan, uh Derek Moore, who again it might be a pretty good fit. 00:45:51.360 --> 00:45:58.000 Not necessarily the height, weight, speed uh guy that uh the Detroit Lions are gonna typically go across from Hutch. 00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:05.760 He's not gonna be the biggest of edge setters, um, but ultimately a good versatile player that you know in round two could be productive. 00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:07.360 So I mean a national champion. 00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:11.440 What about Michigan's linebacker that was Russian cover guy? 00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:16.000 What about Michigan's linebacker that was a Russian cover guy? 00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:22.159 Um I'm not I'm not familiar with um the linebacker there. 00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:23.039 I mean, Derek Moore. 00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:25.760 Are you talking about uh Jay Shawn Barham? 00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:27.199 Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. 00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:30.880 So so so Barham is an intriguing prospect. 00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:35.920 He pretty much exclusively played D-Nep his senior year. 00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:42.079 Um came to Michigan as an inside linebacker, moved to outside linebacker, and then moved to edge. 00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:51.280 Um I mean the just uh all the talent in the world, I mean he's a he's a uh 6'4 um guy. 00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:53.679 Uh that's a guy that you put you potentially. 00:46:55.679 --> 00:47:01.280 You're gonna have to find a guy that um I he tested well, like there's a lot there. 00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:11.039 Uh right now he's a guy that's looking probably as a third rounder or a late second, um, which the Lions aren't gonna be sitting there. 00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:23.599 Um, but Jay Jay Sean, if you if you talk about um who the Michigan defensive coordinator highlighted every year last year and said, hey, we're building our defense around that guy, it's it was Jay Shon. 00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:37.519 Um, you know, it Derrick Moore was an old school throwback, um, DN edge setter, could rush the passer, but Jay Shon was the game wrecker that the other teams were probably advanced scouting a lot more. 00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:38.719 So that's a good point. 00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:50.079 And probably somebody that's gonna be fit more the role or for fit more of the what um Brett Holmes has has looked for in the past is is Gabe Jack is out of um Illinois. 00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:57.039 He's he does fit that you know bigger style, you know, rush edge

that can set an edge as well. 00:47:57.119 --> 00:48:11.599 So I I just think that he he's um you know 6'3, 260, 280, you know, big he's he's gonna be one of those guys that um fits that role a little bit better for you know across my hutch. 00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:13.840 Um but then you have to ask your questions. 00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:19.280 There's also guys like linebackers that um that might fit a a decent role there. 00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:34.880 Um the guy out of Texas, the guy out of Texas Tech, um so Jacob Rodriguez or Anthony Hill, um, who are both you know guys that could fit it, fill in for Alex Anzalone or Derek Barnes, depending on where you want to shift those guys. 00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:37.760 Um, and you know, those those guys might be fits too. 00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:43.199 So yeah, lots of intrigue, and I really it's gonna be determined a lot on that first round pick. 00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:43.519 Yep. 00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:49.920 And there's still gonna be best players available, but they need to get a plug-and-play um producer right there. 00:48:50.079 --> 00:49:15.280 So um Brian, kind of rough segue here, but did Bill have any input on kind of pre-draft notes or uh we we were chatting a little bit about um you know still still wanting uh edge, still wanting um offensive tackle, not trusting guys like DJ Warnham or or uh Larry Barum to be the guy. 00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:22.159 Um but um I think you know Bill has also mentioned Vega as a guy that he he really does enjoy. 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:26.400 He thinks that he could could fill in a a good role and and make us better. 00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:38.639 Um but you know, I I I I still think that that um this draft we we could use we could use at least two guys and we gotta get it right. 00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:40.079 You know, we gotta get it right. 00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:41.119 So, yeah. 00:49:41.840 --> 00:49:47.280 Um any other thoughts here on um before we sign into kind of the Michigan sports corner? 00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:51.599 Alright, so let's talk a little bit about kind of Michigan sports corner. 00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:56.559 The Red Wings completely pooped the bed um over the last couple months. 00:49:56.880 --> 00:49:58.559 Very, very sad to see. 00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:09.519 Um and they weren't gonna be a team that was gonna compete for a Stanley Cup this year, but potentially they're gonna be a team that just like broke the glass ceiling on getting back into the playoffs. 00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:11.920 Would have made the playoffs in other years? 00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:12.480 Yeah. 00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:25.920 Potentially, uh, so if you look, you know, to your point, uh historical context, they are one of the highest point-getting teams in the history of the NHL to not make the playoffs. 00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:32.719 So the there's a couple constellation trophies for the for the Red Wings, but uh pretty disappointing end of year. 00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:43.920

But they were also what in January leading uh, you know, the so I mean you gotta you gotta you can't lose two-thirds of your games down the stretch. 00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:55.440 Larkin going down, but uh Larkin went down, you know, and the worst thing here is the the Red Wings um they made a trade at the end of the year and they traded away their first round pick this year, unprotected. 00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:56.559 Unprotected. 00:50:56.719 --> 00:51:05.440 And if you know the Red Wings at all, and maybe this is boring to you, but the Red Wings have had the worst lottery luck in the NHL for year after year after year. 00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:15.199 If they get lottery luck this year and they they have the unprotected traded pick, um we're all gonna be really sad. 00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:17.679 I might do a whole podcast where I cry. 00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:22.079 Um the Pistons, 61 season, playoff down. 00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:26.239 Sunday! Coming Sunday, uh, number one seed in the East. 00:51:26.320 --> 00:51:28.320 Uh, this is pretty exciting time for the Pistons. 00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:29.840 Cade's back. 00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:31.760 Um Pistons lost Cade. 00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:32.480 They kept going. 00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:35.280 Red Wings lost Larkin, did not. 00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:36.960 Pistons are a wagon. 00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:39.679 Um speaking of wagons, Detroit Tigers. 00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:40.480 Let's go. 00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:41.440 Six in a row. 00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:42.559 Six in a row. 00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:45.519 Um, they blew a six-run lead today. 00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:46.159 Got it. 00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:47.679 Got it back. 00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:56.559 Came back in a uh, I don't know, a Crohn's related couple delays uh during the game with the with the umpire kind of subbing out. 00:51:56.639 --> 00:51:59.840 There's a rain delay, a lot of weirdness going on. 00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:03.760 Um, but you know, you want to see your team win some of these types of games. 00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:11.280 Like, you know, we've we've seen a lot of two to one wins and three to two wins, and that's not necessarily the way you want. 00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:18.480 You don't want to have to trust your starter to get you six with you know giving up one and your ballpen to give up one over the next couple. 00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:33.920 You want your guys to hit and and hit in clutch situations, and and you know, they were they were down and out in the ninth inning, and they had a you know, Riley Green two-run scoring hit with two outs in the ninth. 00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:35.199 That's a that's a really good sign. 00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:35.679 It's huge. 00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:36.639 Gritty tags. 00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:41.599 Yeah, I don't have any MSU updates. 00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:43.360 Um nothing happened. 00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:44.239 Nothing happened. 00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:46.480 I got a good U of M update though. 00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:51.119 Uh they did the win the national championship in basketball, so um that was kind of cool. 00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:52.400 Um kinda. 00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:57.920 Um first Big Ten national championship since the year 2000, which is a little bit surprising. 00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:02.559 We think of the Big Ten as being a pretty elite basketball conference. 00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:18.480 Um, so you know, the the Spartans with Mateen Cleese were the last team that Moe Peterson, kind of that that that Flint dynamic that that won a national championship, and uh the the Wolverines, I mean, I think start to finish were the best team in college basketball. 00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:30.000 Um, to me as a Michigan basketball fan, it was almost more of a relief than a celebration because it was like, all right, like they were always the best team, and they they finally kind of capitalized on that. 00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:33.840 Um else you want to kind of stab into here? 00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:35.679 McGonagal. 00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:36.719 McGonagall. 00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:37.599 McGonagall. 00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:40.960 Future Hall of Famer uh signs that early deal. 00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:42.960 Signs that early deal. 00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:45.440 Uh he gets 150. 00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:53.840 Uh interesting, the Tigers didn't give Torque the early bag, Dingler the early bag, Riley Green, the early bag, Casey Myes, the early bag. 00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:55.360 They give it to McGonagall. 00:53:55.920 --> 00:54:01.679 McGonagal right now, already 69 at bats right now. 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:03.360 Best hitter on the team. 00:54:03.599 --> 00:54:04.559 Best hitter on the team. 00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:05.679 21. 00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:06.880 21 years old. 00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:15.519 Well, I mean, one of my favorite parts of his McGonagal did a press conference, and um, in the background is the is the Tiger team. 00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:20.320 And Scoobyl sitting next to Verlander, and Verlander looks like his dad, you know. 00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:31.199 And he's just kind of chuckling, but Scoobyl said, hey man, like you know, uh this weekend we got back-to-back day games, and good opportunities for the team to go out to dinner. 00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:34.320 Do you have any plans to buy dinner for the team? 00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:39.119 And Kevin said, said he will, and uh, you know what? 00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:45.039 He's gonna be probably buying better bourbon than what I have on my shelf that night, and that's gonna be a lot of fun. 00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:48.320 Also, first time he wore a suit in his life. 00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:50.559 Was it the first time he wore a suit in his life? 00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:51.599 Wow. 00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:57.519 Confirmed, I think Cody, but yeah, he said he rented a Tux before for Prime, but first time he actually wore a suit. 00:54:58.639 --> 00:54:59.760 21 years old. 00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:01.679 21 years old. 00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:03.760 Oh, it's to be 21 again. 00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:06.159 I mean, also for the record, there's a lot of first time. 00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:10.480 First time he was legally able to like show his ID and buy alcohol, right? 00:55:10.639 --> 00:55:15.440 Like, I mean, you know, he's not married, so he hasn't had the first time with a woman yet, you know? 00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:16.960 So, like, a lot going on. 00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:18.400 Yeah, a lot going on. 00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:20.639 So, um, so you're oats, kid. 00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:23.199 Um anything else that you want to talk about? 00:55:23.280 --> 00:55:24.639 So, tease next week a little bit? 00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:25.840 Okay, is this legit? 00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:28.239 Are we this is are we going to this is the plan. 00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:29.119 This is the plan. 00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:30.639 So stay tuned. 00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:34.159 Um we are going to go live for the draft. 00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:36.719 We're going to be here in Rob's basement. 00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:49.920 Uh, a crew of us uh are gonna be around um and we're going to um just be able to check in with you guys and uh um you know as the picks come in, we'll give our reaction. 00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:50.480 So yeah. 00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:52.239 Anything else you want to talk about next week? 00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:53.199 You're gonna be here? 00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:54.320 Oh, I'll be here. 00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:54.800 Okay. 00:55:55.199 --> 00:56:09.920 Um, so you know, I'd I'd like to give a quick shout out to to Chris Alone, who has been sitting in the background, um, been been feeding us notes, putting them on tees, putting big old yellow softballs on tees, letting us hit us out in the park. 00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:14.880 Um, he's gonna be a weekly contributor on the podcast, kind of going forward. 00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:18.159 Um big draft guy, big numbers guy. 00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:25.519 Um he'll be you know there in the chat if you need uh to ask any questions, but we're kind of excited to have him. 00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:32.960 Um and and Brian typically um banter a little bit more, and then that'll come in in time. 00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:40.800 Um, but super excited to kind of expand the pod and get more voices on here, more opinions, because um mine isn't good enough. 00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:45.519 So yeah, and we'll we'll dive into the uh the DeAndre Levy and Sudabay. 00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:46.880 So we'll we'll we'll get into it. 00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:49.280 All right, we are already deep enough here. 00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:51.519 So uh we are gonna sign off. 00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:56.000 So stay gritty, go lines, uh get the draft.