#14: June Lee - "Failing" into Physical Therapy, UGC, and the Importance of Letting Go의 전체 녹취록

he was like, if we play like, y'all just dance, we would win the championship. 00:04:30.262 --> 00:04:34.709 And lo and behold, they won the championships that year. 00:04:34.709 --> 00:04:52.172 So that was the craziest thing just being able to say that one like we saw him, we met him, but then being able to dance for him and then him telling that to us, was just like I can go to heaven right now yeah insane, so so crazy the highlights yes like even on top of that. 00:04:52.233 --> 00:04:54.845 So like we, I'll link the video if I can find it. 00:04:54.845 --> 00:05:05.190 But like he was recording right, like he was holding the camera or he was next to it because he was cheering, he was like yeah like we were blowing his mind, like it was crazy when we're doing the, the stunts and Darren was doing like his handstand. 00:05:05.230 --> 00:05:08.708 Yeah, kobe was going crazy, or like when you did the backflip with. 00:05:08.728 --> 00:05:10.237 Eric at the same time oh that's right. 00:05:10.257 --> 00:05:10.540 That's right. 00:05:10.540 --> 00:05:12.947 Like the synchronized backflip was crazy. 00:05:13.067 --> 00:05:14.011 What show was this for again? 00:05:14.521 --> 00:05:16.326 I think it was Body Rock. 00:05:16.326 --> 00:05:17.348 Okay yeah, okay yeah. 00:05:25.740 --> 00:05:26.762 That heel, yeah, okay, right, right, deep v-neck. 00:05:26.762 --> 00:05:27.064 Uh, that was me. 00:05:27.064 --> 00:05:27.404 What else? 00:05:27.404 --> 00:05:28.208 Yeah, no, that was crazy. 00:05:28.208 --> 00:05:28.428 What else? 00:05:28.428 --> 00:05:29.170 What was crazy about that is that? 00:05:29.170 --> 00:05:35.065 Well, one, when we took the photo, like his arm span was like I was two people away and he got the other side of my shoulder. 00:05:35.105 --> 00:05:36.369 Yeah, so it was you. 00:05:36.369 --> 00:05:42.449 Well, yeah, so, yeah, it was like you know like one person and then me, and it's kobe. 00:05:42.488 --> 00:05:48.149 He's like the only athlete that I ever really liked and followed, like Filipinos, la, like we can all relate. 00:05:48.149 --> 00:05:50.033 My mom was like a huge Kobe fan. 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:52.923 Not even Lakers, but specifically Kobe. 00:05:52.963 --> 00:05:55.430 So I'm like also like diehard Kobe fan Only jersey that I have. 00:05:55.430 --> 00:06:09.196 And he was super nice too, because we're just a bunch of college students and we're dancing and he's like taking photos with us and being super nice and I'm sure he gets inundated all the time, like right when he was like around campus, so to him to watch our show record. 00:06:09.196 --> 00:06:13.809 It get all hyped give us like those inspiring words and then take photos with us like dude it was. 00:06:14.310 --> 00:06:25.067 It definitely was peak I think what was a really amazing thing was that it was really validating to hear it coming from someone who's an expert in their field, truly go, go to everything. 00:06:25.088 --> 00:06:28.394 Literally one of

the best, if not one of the best, to hear that I agree. 00:06:28.620 --> 00:06:37.648 You know, when you're just practicing amongst yourself and you're giving each other feedback, it's hard to know whether or not you have something that's special because you want to believe in that yourself. 00:06:37.648 --> 00:06:50.350 But to have again someone with this level of respect and prestige tell you that you're also doing something right and that it inspires that person like could I ask for anything better? 00:06:50.350 --> 00:06:53.139 No, you know so that's great, okay. 00:06:53.158 --> 00:07:08.524 So actually coincidentally because I didn't I forgot about that story and then you brought yeah, that is the best, one of the best memories I saw a kobe like real oh no, it was j shetty real and he was saying like, oh, he had heard from his wife, vanessa, like when they were talking, oh, why do you play through injuries? 00:07:08.524 --> 00:07:12.870 And Kobe was, because everyone knows that Kobe played through injuries a lot like really bad ones. 00:07:12.870 --> 00:07:22.461 And when they were talking, vanessa was saying that, oh, yeah, kobe mentioned because people would save up a lot of money to see him play and they can probably only afford to see him once. 00:07:22.500 --> 00:07:26.911 So he doesn't want to disappoint his fans and to show up for your fans. 00:07:26.911 --> 00:07:30.009 And it's not even because he wants the ring he wants to win. 00:07:30.009 --> 00:07:33.903 It's because his fans show him love, so he wants to show that back. 00:07:33.903 --> 00:07:35.249 Man, that messed me up. 00:07:35.249 --> 00:07:36.485 That was like 9 am this morning. 00:07:36.485 --> 00:07:38.887 I was like oh, why am I driving to UCLA? 00:07:38.887 --> 00:07:39.850 I'm tearing up. 00:07:39.850 --> 00:07:40.759 I'm just kidding. 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:41.680 I didn't tear up, I actually cried. 00:07:41.781 --> 00:07:45.884 But like on the freeway, I was like this hits so hard right now. 00:07:45.903 --> 00:07:46.603 I just woke up. 00:07:46.603 --> 00:07:50.747 Yeah, that's a crazy coincidence and that stuff like that really gets to me. 00:07:50.747 --> 00:07:54.170 It's knowing the deeper things and it's not like, oh, your passion, yeah, yeah, it's not just about you. 00:08:05.980 --> 00:08:17.992 It's not just about doing what you think is the right thing for yourself, but other people are looking up to you, other people are supporting you, and so giving back to them in some capacity is like just full circle moment. 00:08:17.992 --> 00:08:21.564 I guess you know, because you wouldn't be who you are without the people that you surround yourself with. 00:08:21.704 --> 00:08:21.863 Yeah. 00:08:22.024 --> 00:08:25.391 Or the people who support you, or the people who pay money to go see you. 00:08:25.391 --> 00:08:33.488 Right, you wouldn't be as big as you are without those types of people, and I think it's important to keep that in mind as you're doing anything that involves others. 00:08:34.149 --> 00:08:47.631 Yeah, I agree, I feel like that's like a stronger fuel source when it's not about you, it's about something deeper than just oh, I just want to win, or I want to be the best and I think that's what separated him a lot and I know for us like kobe fanboys and fangirls, I think we like align with that a lot. 00:08:48.231 --> 00:08:54.496 Another fun fact like my mom, so she's dire kobe fan, right, but she will not watch like his last game. 00:08:54.496 --> 00:08:55.437 She hasn't watched it yet. 00:08:55.437 --> 00:08:58.144 And I'm like mom, you have to watch it. 00:08:58.144 --> 00:09:02.890 And because she's like I can't deal with it, she's still in that sort of grieving, like denial sort of thing. 00:09:03.051 --> 00:09:04.712 But she didn't watch it live even. 00:09:04.753 --> 00:09:05.575 So where were you? 00:09:05.674 --> 00:09:06.375 Did you watch it live? 00:09:06.375 --> 00:09:09.710 I watched the second half of it live because I was doing like a photo booth gig. 00:09:09.710 --> 00:09:16.688 So I wasn't able to catch the first half, but I rewatched the beginning, but I watched the ending of it live. 00:09:16.941 --> 00:09:18.186 And it was an incredible game. 00:09:18.299 --> 00:09:20.288 And that's not just luck it's not fluke. 00:09:20.668 --> 00:09:30.395 That's like all of his hard work paid off like in one moment, right and it's not like the other team was giving it to him exactly because they knew that he didn't want to go out with just like right like a charity handout. 00:09:30.395 --> 00:09:31.677 Why would you ever want to go out like that? 00:09:31.697 --> 00:09:35.397 you earn it, and then that truly was like a moment where, okay, you really are the goat. 00:09:35.417 --> 00:09:57.567 This is why people respect you, like you give it your all from beginning to finish and so, yeah, oh my god, my chest is heavy now, jr I wasn't expecting to go into this like just fanboying for the first 10 minutes totally, but yeah I was at the gym, I was, I watched, I caught the end of it and everyone at the gym was just in the locker room just like staring and I was like I can't miss this yeah, this is kobe epic. 00:09:57.868 --> 00:09:59.293 Okay, another quick tangent. 00:09:59.293 --> 00:10:00.197 So there was this. 00:10:00.197 --> 00:10:05.649 One christmas, maybe, like eight years ago, my I went up to visit, visit NorCal for my mom and my parents and stuff like that. 00:10:05.649 --> 00:10:11.226 My mom, it was on Christmas day my mom and my sister and I made a spontaneous trip to watch the Lakers game in LA. 00:10:11.226 --> 00:10:16.729 So we drove, my mom, drove my sister and I five hours straight down to watch the Lakers game that day, dropped me off afterwards. 00:10:16.729 --> 00:10:20.485 It was a very spontaneous, one of those like memories you'll never forget. 00:10:20.485 --> 00:10:21.847 We're just like, do you want to watch a kobe game? 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And we're like, sure, why not just drove there on christmas? 00:10:24.371 --> 00:10:26.736 wow, watched it like, oh my god, it was crazy. 00:10:26.736 --> 00:10:28.740 So when it core memory core memory for sure. 00:10:28.801 --> 00:10:44.152 So when I hear about that quote of him, like you know, playing through injuries for that, I'm like, yeah, like it wasn't a spectacular game and I I don't even, I don't even know if they lost or wanted any matter, but it was just like seeing kobe, yeah, and like christmas day with, like, my mom and my sister, it was really nice, yeah, okay. 00:10:44.152 --> 00:10:49.327 So now that we're done with kobe which is uh random, yeah, not in the game plan- but, all right. 00:10:49.388 --> 00:10:51.152 So career path welcome to the normal. 00:10:51.152 --> 00:10:53.504 You know you're a pt, right, and so how? 00:10:53.504 --> 00:10:55.691 My first question is kind of how did you get into it? 00:10:55.691 --> 00:10:56.032 What this? 00:10:56.032 --> 00:10:58.908 What made you decide you wanted to go into physical therapy? 00:10:58.908 --> 00:11:01.642 And I guess, what was your undergrad experience like? 00:11:01.642 --> 00:11:02.663 So that's that whole. 00:11:02.663 --> 00:11:03.845 However you want to approach it. 00:11:03.945 --> 00:11:04.686 Yeah, yeah. 00:11:04.686 --> 00:11:11.716 Well, I think that subconsciously, my family has been brainwashing me to be this PT for the majority of my life. 00:11:11.716 --> 00:11:19.144 When I was little, they would always ask me to give them massages and they're like, oh my gosh, you're so good, you should do this for the rest of your life. 00:11:19.144 --> 00:11:20.990 And I'm like, okay, cool, I'm really good at this. 00:11:20.990 --> 00:11:32.724 I'm going to keep this in the back of my head. 00:11:32.724 --> 00:11:36.777 One summer, when I was nine years old, my uncle actually got his like amputated and he had or I, they forced a nine-year-old to stay with him the entire summer to take care of him. 00:11:36.777 --> 00:11:37.840 But you know, I don't know what I'm doing. 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:40.289 I'm just there to keep him company or, like watch tv. 00:11:40.289 --> 00:11:51.815 He would make his snacks, he would pull pranks on me and then he would actually have someone come to the house and take care of him and do these exercises every single not every single day, but I don't know maybe two or three times a day. 00:11:52.701 --> 00:11:55.590 With me being there, everyone started calling me like his nurse. 00:11:55.590 --> 00:12:01.533 So I thought, oh, I'm going to be a nurse when I grow up because everyone says I'm really good at being a nurse. 00:12:01.533 --> 00:12:06.412 So flash forward to senior year of high school, when you're applying to college applications. 00:12:06.412 --> 00:12:10.770 My mom and my sister, they're like OK, you got to be a nurse. 00:12:10.770 --> 00:12:13.144 Now this is the time to apply, just go ahead, do it. 00:12:13.144 --> 00:12:15.692

And I'm like OK, I guess. 00:12:15.692 --> 00:12:17.667 So that's all I know what I should do. 00:12:17.667 --> 00:12:24.985 But in my heart of hearts, like there was just something that was telling me I didn't want to do it, something that was telling me I didn't want to do it. 00:12:25.004 --> 00:12:26.693 I think mostly out of rebellion because I did not like people telling me what to do. 00:12:26.693 --> 00:12:28.301 But I had no other option because I didn't know what else I liked. 00:12:28.301 --> 00:12:35.751 So I applied, got into UCS nursing program and it was finally. 00:12:35.751 --> 00:12:40.365 When I got there and I don't know why I didn't look up what nursing was. 00:12:40.365 --> 00:12:46.780 But when they told me what nursing was, I was like I don't want to do this. 00:12:46.801 --> 00:12:47.562 So, like, what do you mean? 00:12:47.562 --> 00:12:48.505 Like, what about nursing, did you? 00:12:48.525 --> 00:12:49.147 not want to do. 00:12:49.226 --> 00:13:02.902 I based nursing off of what I saw my uncle doing, which was the exercising which was the massaging gotcha, which was just like getting in and out of his wheelchair and walking, learning how to use his prosthetic leg, and I thought that was nursing. 00:13:02.902 --> 00:13:06.943 But then, 15 years later, they're like, oh, what are you talking about? 00:13:06.943 --> 00:13:07.846 That's physical therapy. 00:13:07.846 --> 00:13:15.301 But I didn't know that, I didn't have a name to that and as I was searching all these careers, it's oh yeah, nurses help people in the hospital when they're sick. 00:13:15.301 --> 00:13:16.923 They help them get out of bed. 00:13:16.923 --> 00:13:19.187 Oh, they help them like eat and get better. 00:13:19.187 --> 00:13:21.889 And I'm like, oh, that kind of sounds like what I thought it was. 00:13:21.889 --> 00:13:24.894 So I was like, cool, yeah, let's continue down this career path. 00:13:24.894 --> 00:13:31.928 But then, like I said, once I got there and orientation happened, and they're like, oh yeah, you work in the hospital, you get their meds, you do this and that. 00:13:31.928 --> 00:13:36.811 And I'm like, oh hard, stop, wait a second, this is not what I thought it was going to be. 00:13:36.811 --> 00:13:39.222 And I had volunteered in a hospital. 00:13:39.383 --> 00:13:49.690 But again, like, I think my mind was just so narrowed in on thinking what I thought nursing was so I just I didn't have a passion for it. 00:13:49.690 --> 00:13:51.226 I didn't have a passion for nursing. 00:13:51.226 --> 00:14:00.307 I went through the motions of going to class, but because I didn't have that fire in me to continue to pursue this career and, mind you, nursing is a great profession. 00:14:00.307 --> 00:14:05.091 I have the utmost respect for nurses, but it just didn't feel like me. 00:14:05.091 --> 00:14:10.264 Because of that, I pursued other interests and da da da. 00:14:10.264 --> 00:14:13.211 Here comes Cabo Modern, where, oh my God, I love dancing. 00:14:13.211 --> 00:14:17.370 I've been dancing my whole life and these are people who are very passionate about what they're doing. 00:14:17.370 --> 00:14:24.974 I'm going to spend all my time with these people and kind of put nursing or school in the back burner. 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:29.821 So I failed out. 00:14:29.821 --> 00:14:44.591 I failed out of the nursing program and it was probably the most devastating failure of my life at that time, not because I was sad to not be a nurse anymore, but just the fact that I failed at something. 00:14:44.591 --> 00:14:49.187 I didn't do everything to the T, I just everything prior to that. 00:14:49.187 --> 00:14:50.650 I was straight A student, blah, blah, blah. 00:14:50.650 --> 00:14:51.039 This and that. 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:53.787 All these accomplishments and I just failure. 00:14:53.787 --> 00:14:59.847 To me wasn't ever an option, but here I am choosing to fail because I wasn't passionate about something. 00:14:59.847 --> 00:15:00.450 So it was just. 00:15:00.450 --> 00:15:03.683 It was really hard to process the emotions I was going through. 00:15:03.683 --> 00:15:09.855 So I switched my major to public health and I just continued on through that route. 00:15:10.441 --> 00:15:19.091 But it was only after graduating where a PT aid position popped up and I was like you know what, let me see what this is about. 00:15:19.091 --> 00:15:22.931 And I applied and I actually I didn't know what the position even called for. 00:15:22.931 --> 00:15:30.214 And then in the interview the owner was like so why do you want to become a physical therapist? 00:15:30.214 --> 00:15:38.912 And I had no good answer, other than the story I just told you about my uncle and that was the first time I actually described that story and I started crying. 00:15:38.912 --> 00:15:41.989 And then he was like oh my God, I don't know what to do here. 00:15:41.989 --> 00:15:45.265 Here's tissue, let me step out for a second to give you a moment. 00:15:45.265 --> 00:15:54.134 So I collected myself and then he was like it sounds like your uncle was a really special person and you really show passion for helping others. 00:15:54.134 --> 00:15:56.842 Um, I really appreciate you sharing that story with me. 00:15:57.586 --> 00:16:09.268 I thought I tanked that interview because I cried, because everyone says to be professional, but then a couple days later I get the call saying I got the job and when I asked him like why did you hire me? 00:16:09.268 --> 00:16:22.068 When I cried during the interview, and he was like it was because you showed genuine passion, not just because you wanted to do something that you thought was something that made a lot of money or gave you prestige or whatever. 00:16:22.068 --> 00:16:27.386 It was the fact that you really truly deeply cared about something and you wanted to pursue helping others. 00:16:27.386 --> 00:16:29.943 So that's my. 00:16:29.943 --> 00:16:32.110 That was my undergrad

experience. 00:16:32.620 --> 00:16:35.207 And after that it was just like PT school and then kind of go. 00:16:35.369 --> 00:16:36.371 Yeah, exactly. 00:16:36.371 --> 00:16:37.605 So I hunkered down. 00:16:37.605 --> 00:16:53.230 I had to go back to community college to improve my grades, like everything chemistry, physics, anatomy, everything science related was just that was all I knew that I had to do to boost my GPA. 00:16:53.230 --> 00:16:58.083 My prerequisites were like I don't even know they were bad. 00:16:58.083 --> 00:17:30.890 They were bad but always after that because I really had a focus now and I really wanted it and I did a whole bunch of different like volunteer experiences and I worked at different PT clinics, and so I just made sure that I was setting myself up for success and that I was doing everything I could to like beef up my resume to, I guess, make up for my horrible undergrad GPA, because that's something that they really look for is how do you do as a full-time student, not just as someone who wants to make up for being a full-time student, right? 00:17:31.971 --> 00:17:32.232 yeah. 00:17:32.232 --> 00:17:34.104 So from there I have two questions. 00:17:34.104 --> 00:17:41.525 So one is you mentioned like timeline in quotes in relation to your career, like how does that apply to your own journey? 00:17:41.525 --> 00:17:44.574 And or two, we can do either or both. 00:17:44.574 --> 00:18:04.182 But, um, as someone, like an audience member who wants to get into pt, and as someone who I don't know what goes into the undergraduate experience, then applying to pt school or like boosting your resume or getting like job experience at like a clinic or something, um, I guess what takeaways or advice would you give to someone who wants to get into it either? 00:18:04.182 --> 00:18:05.665 Kind, kind of like here's what it's like. 00:18:05.665 --> 00:18:06.567 It's really hard. 00:18:06.567 --> 00:18:07.309 Think about this. 00:18:08.551 --> 00:18:10.905 You know that sort of thing Like as a person who's oh she does PT. 00:18:10.965 --> 00:18:11.849 I really want to get into it. 00:18:11.849 --> 00:18:14.385 What would you say to them Like insight into? 00:18:14.465 --> 00:18:15.509 how to get into that field. 00:18:15.509 --> 00:18:19.991 So I didn't know anything about that either until I started talking to other PTs. 00:18:19.991 --> 00:18:27.546 So basically, first, so basically, first of all, you can have a bachelor's degree in anything. 00:18:27.546 --> 00:18:28.307 It doesn't have to be science related. 00:18:28.307 --> 00:18:28.970 It can be like alex, my husband. 00:18:28.970 --> 00:18:34.528 He has a bachelor's in anthropology, I have one in public health, other people can have one in drama, whatever. 00:18:34.528 --> 00:18:35.791 You just need to have a bachelor's. 00:18:35.791 --> 00:18:38.988 The second thing is that you need to fulfill the prerequisites. 00:18:38.988 --> 00:18:45.231 So, like I said, I went back to community college so I can fulfill all my science and math and all this other stuff. 00:18:45.231 --> 00:18:48.727 So, as long as you fulfill those two depends on the school. 00:18:48.826 --> 00:19:00.503 You can either do the GRE or not, but there are some schools that require you to do various volunteer hours, shadowing hours or work hours. 00:19:00.503 --> 00:19:03.352 So you can be a physical therapist aid or physical therapy aid. 00:19:03.352 --> 00:19:05.421 In California you're allowed to do exercises, therapist aid or physical therapy aid. 00:19:05.421 --> 00:19:08.977 In California you're allowed to do exercises with a patient as an aid. 00:19:08.977 --> 00:19:10.116 You don't have to have a license. 00:19:10.116 --> 00:19:24.111 You can work with patients one-on-one and that is direct patient care, which is actually the best experience, because then you get to feel like you're actually doing something, hands-on in a way, but you can't do any of like, obviously, the diagnosing. 00:19:24.111 --> 00:19:26.380 You can't change the exercises. 00:19:26.380 --> 00:19:36.989 You have to do exactly what the physical therapist tells you to do with them and you're not allowed, obviously, to give like medical advice, so you always defer to your PT. 00:19:37.930 --> 00:19:49.890 Yeah, I'd say, get your college degree, get your undergrad degree, get your hours in, get diverse hours in in various places, because anyone can volunteer at an outpatient clinic because it's so prominent. 00:19:49.890 --> 00:19:53.309 Anyone can volunteer at a hospital, because that's also very prominent. 00:19:53.309 --> 00:19:55.539 It's like the unique experiences. 00:19:55.539 --> 00:20:03.402 I volunteered at this overnight camp in Big Bear and it was for kids who had limb loss or limb differences. 00:20:03.402 --> 00:20:17.688 That was something that I wanted to explore again because it kind of related back to my uncle where he had his limb loss and I think after that that really solidified me pursuing this career. 00:20:18.388 --> 00:20:22.583 So, yeah, and then you know some schools will have you do interviews or not. 00:20:22.583 --> 00:20:31.625 And I think there's this I forget what it's called, but it's like this application system online where you click on all the schools you want to apply to and then you just send your application. 00:20:31.625 --> 00:20:35.685 It goes all the way there, but some private schools will obviously ask for different things. 00:20:35.685 --> 00:20:39.102 Yeah, it's just making sure you have all of those checked off. 00:20:39.102 --> 00:20:42.769 Not sure how it's different this time around, because it might have changed. 00:20:42.769 --> 00:20:49.979 It was 2016 2017 when I applied and got in, so it could be different now, but I feel like that's basically like the backbone. 00:20:49.999 --> 00:20:59.330 yeah so I'm assuming you know, in a competitive field like that, what are the biggest facts, like gpa, your diverse experiences,

like you said, maybe the interview, other stuff on the application. 00:20:59.330 --> 00:21:04.691 So it's just kind of doing your best to beef up that sort of application in any way possible. 00:21:04.932 --> 00:21:05.854 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:21:05.854 --> 00:21:11.026 But also I feel like you really have to have a passion for this Makes sense Cry in the interview guys. 00:21:11.026 --> 00:21:13.186 Guys do something. 00:21:13.326 --> 00:21:13.909 It worked. 00:21:14.641 --> 00:21:17.549 I cry in every interview. 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:21.848 It is my thing now Just tears, just start running Like whoa, what's going on? 00:21:21.868 --> 00:21:26.786 It's so bad I cannot not cry, and I've just accepted it. 00:21:26.786 --> 00:21:28.746 By now I have tissues in my pocket whenever. 00:21:28.766 --> 00:21:44.144 I go to interview, but I think you know one thing that people need to understand is that because it's such a physically demanding job, you really have to like when you walk into that door, it's not about you anymore, it's about that person, that person that they. 00:21:44.144 --> 00:21:46.531 It's not about you anymore, it's about that person, that person, that they everyone's in pain. 00:21:46.531 --> 00:22:07.915 They're coming to you for help and you have to be willing to think out of the box for them, be willing to look for answers if you don't have one, be willing to accept when you can't help them because it's just not in your capacity, whether it's like not your specialty or you just don't have the answers for them. 00:22:07.915 --> 00:22:25.285 Right, you have to have this like balance of knowing enough and knowing when you just can't help a person and you can't do it for the money because, honestly, pt is not a very unless you own a clinic or you work for a very high-end place, you don't do it for the money. 00:22:25.380 --> 00:22:27.846 Right, that's not really the purpose for people going into PT. 00:22:27.846 --> 00:22:29.771 Yes, makes sense. 00:22:29.771 --> 00:22:34.883 Do you have any thoughts on that timeline sort of question, because I know you put that in. 00:22:34.883 --> 00:22:35.605 Do you want to elaborate on? 00:22:35.625 --> 00:22:35.826 that. 00:22:35.826 --> 00:22:36.489 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:22:36.489 --> 00:22:45.253 So I think you know it took me a long time to get to where I am, but it felt long for me because I didn't go straight from undergrad to grad school. 00:22:45.253 --> 00:22:50.531 I took four years to again finish out, doing all those prerequisites and getting all that experience. 00:22:50.531 --> 00:23:06.729 When I felt like, looking back at it now, I wish I had just done all of those prerequisites in maybe like two years to cut it short and then get to it sooner, but at the same time I probably wouldn't have been or probably not, what's the word? 00:23:06.729 --> 00:23:12.251 I probably would not be the person I am today without all those four years to get to where I am. 00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:18.737 Because when I went to PT school the school I went to, the program it was like a. 00:23:18.737 --> 00:23:25.164 Some people were grandfathered in from their undergrad program and then you had other people who were in this grad state, like me. 00:23:25.164 --> 00:23:34.451 So it was a mishmash of 30 kids from here, 30 people from here and various walks of life, various life experiences, various personalities. 00:23:34.451 --> 00:23:47.582 I feel like having that time off gave me a little bit more life experience than if I had just gone from undergrad to grad, because I was still very immature at 22, 23, 24. 00:23:47.682 --> 00:23:50.650 Didn't really know, wasn't really confident in myself. 00:23:50.650 --> 00:23:52.192 I just knew I had to do something. 00:23:52.192 --> 00:23:57.849 And not to say that, most people don't know how they are at that age. 00:23:57.849 --> 00:24:05.573 But for myself I feel like I took the right amount of time to figure out exactly what I wanted and I didn't rush it. 00:24:05.573 --> 00:24:16.729 And I can appreciate all of those obstacles, all of those nights, in all of those sacrifices I made to almost create a different life for myself than what I thought I had before, what I knew. 00:24:16.729 --> 00:24:23.336 I feel like I could have done more, but also life just throws you in that right timeline. 00:24:23.356 --> 00:24:24.059 Part of the journey right. 00:24:24.079 --> 00:24:25.125 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:24:25.125 --> 00:24:35.950 So I feel like for most people, there's this pressure to get your life together right away, but you really don't need to succumb to that. 00:24:35.950 --> 00:24:44.115 You can just do whatever you want on your own terms, Because that's what's going to make you feel the most fulfilled, the most happy, the most satisfied. 00:24:44.115 --> 00:24:45.338 The most reward comes from living your the most satisfied. 00:24:45.338 --> 00:24:48.065 The most reward comes from living your own journey. 00:24:48.987 --> 00:24:49.848 Yeah, I love that. 00:24:49.848 --> 00:24:55.510 I feel like a lot of college students nowadays need to hear that, mostly because I also dance with a lot of college students. 00:24:55.510 --> 00:25:01.563 But it's always that anxiety of I'm behind, I'm comparing myself and I need to have this figured out as soon as I graduate. 00:25:01.583 --> 00:25:02.404 If not beforehand. 00:25:03.066 --> 00:25:04.829 And anyone in our stage. 00:25:04.829 --> 00:25:08.828 You don't need to have it all figured out In fact, the process is figuring out who you are. 00:25:08.828 --> 00:25:11.469 And then you'll figure out which way you're supposed to go afterwards. 00:25:11.469 --> 00:25:16.019 But you have to appreciate the journey, and when you don't get what you want, you gain experience. 00:25:16.099 --> 00:25:38.957 So you're not actually losing anything from those four or six or whatever years, Because the worst case scenario is you're going up the wrong building the

wrong ladder and you're like, oh, now I got to go back down and up another one, but you might as well take the time to just we talked about this before on the show but calibrating your compass and that's more worth your time than trying to rush in some direction that might not be right for you, so I totally agree with that, yeah. 00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:46.525 And I guess on that, another topic that you mentioned was like pursuing your passions. 00:25:46.525 --> 00:25:48.651 That was like a big thing and I think a lot of people can relate to that. 00:25:48.651 --> 00:25:55.183 So my initial questions and we can also divulge from this is what are your passions? 00:25:55.183 --> 00:25:59.593 Or like, how does one balance your passions, like with the career or relationship, family responsibilities, etc. 00:25:59.593 --> 00:26:08.967 It seems clear that you are at least passionate about PT from all the tears in the interviews, but are there any other things you wanted to call out on there? 00:26:08.967 --> 00:26:12.448 And then how does one go about pursuing and then balancing those passions? 00:26:13.010 --> 00:26:32.673 I think when I wrote that down, I was thinking about how, yes, I'm passionate about physical therapy, but I'm also passionate about keeping like my peace, my personal peace, and doing things according again to like my timeline, and doing things that make me feel like I am a worthy person in the world. 00:26:33.441 --> 00:27:11.270 So I created my own side business of doing mobile PT services and rather than just joining another company like I still do that I'm still kind of full time somewhere else but rather than just working only for another person, who they're profiting off of my hard work I'm going to pursue my own entrepreneurship with creating my own business model for myself providing PT how I want to treat patients, not how insurance dictates me how to treat a patient, and doing whatever I feel is the most appropriate for that person when they're coming to see me. 00:27:11.270 --> 00:27:18.365 And I feel like that's what it's really all about, right Trying to help people as much as possible without the constraints of someone's rules. 00:27:18.365 --> 00:27:35.564 So I feel like I just unlocked myself by doing that and it's really scary because you have no rules, but you get to make the rules up as you go and by being an independent PT, in that aspect I feel the most free. 00:27:35.564 --> 00:27:39.250 I feel like I'm the most myself as a professional. 00:27:40.093 --> 00:27:49.861 When I was working elsewhere, they go through like this trial and error process or like a probationary process where they monitor you, and it felt like I was a student all over again, and it was. 00:27:49.861 --> 00:27:55.232 You know, it's for safety and it's just to make sure that you're not like saying weird things and you're a nice person. 00:27:55.232 --> 00:28:00.092 But also that made me a version of myself where it wasn't me. 00:28:00.092 --> 00:28:03.624 I was doing it performatively to make sure I wasn't getting fired. 00:28:03.624 --> 00:28:05.164 I was doing it performatively to make sure I wasn't getting fired. 00:28:05.164 --> 00:28:12.973 But with me being with patients one-on-one, I get to be the truest self. 00:28:12.973 --> 00:28:17.338 My truest self and just I don't know, give my all and everything. 00:28:17.338 --> 00:28:21.229 I don't know, jr, my mind's going blank. 00:28:21.249 --> 00:28:32.209 Yeah, no, I get it you know you work in an environment where there's a lot of constraints right, and this ability to have those not those constraints and kind of approach it the way you feel like is best and you can help serve your patients. 00:28:32.209 --> 00:28:42.212 And that can be an unlock because, while constraints are good because it makes you think inside the box once you have that sort of down and obviously you've been a professional for a while then when you have those, you can now think outside the box. 00:28:42.212 --> 00:28:47.909 You can actually you can add more value to your clients and your patients and get more fulfillment out of, like your career. 00:28:47.929 --> 00:28:49.404 Yeah, I think I remember what I was going to say. 00:28:49.404 --> 00:28:57.443 I think me being in my own role has allowed me to bridge the gap between my two passions, which is dance and PT. 00:28:57.805 --> 00:28:58.426 Right, that's right. 00:28:58.827 --> 00:29:22.528 Being able to, because there's all the places that do that and, again, if they do there's, it's under the constraints of someone else's rules, and so being able to provide dance therapy or being able to find physical therapy for dancers in the capacity where it's not just about exercises, it's about movement analysis, and even providing the massage therapy or the manual therapy that I'm, I guess I'm really good at. 00:29:22.728 --> 00:29:24.049 You know, I just get paid for it. 00:29:24.371 --> 00:29:35.805 But you know it's creating your own path, because I was passionate about these two things and just trying to find that balance of how can I get the best of both worlds. 00:29:35.805 --> 00:29:49.395 Even though I'm not an active dancer anymore, I get to still contribute back to the dance community in that capacity and still help the next generation be the best versions of themselves and give them something that I wish that I had as a dancer. 00:29:49.395 --> 00:30:00.907 So that's part of the reason why I also went to PT is because when Darren during Hell Week revived, he injured himself and we were all just there like what do we do now? 00:30:00.907 --> 00:30:01.328 Is that his knee? 00:30:01.328 --> 00:30:01.830 I forgot. 00:30:01.830 --> 00:30:03.403 Yeah, I think it was his ACL. 00:30:03.483 --> 00:30:05.670 Oh, his ACL, and it's a hard recovery Destroyed. 00:30:05.670 --> 00:30:06.050 I think. 00:30:07.641 --> 00:30:17.430 But yeah, that's a hard recovery and, knowing what I know now, it can take like 6

to 9 to 12 months of rehab before I even back to feeling like some sort of normal. 00:30:17.430 --> 00:30:22.404 So that was also another driving force of me going into PT school. 00:30:22.404 --> 00:30:28.133 It's just trying to give back to the people who have made me the person that I want to be or that I am. 00:30:28.133 --> 00:30:29.894 I like that. 00:30:30.596 --> 00:30:30.976 Anything else? 00:30:30.976 --> 00:30:32.204 Okay, so what about balance? 00:30:32.204 --> 00:30:35.630 So we talked about passions and kind of bridging the gap between dance and PT. 00:30:35.630 --> 00:30:42.767 Do you have any thoughts on balancing those passions, if it requires any at all, or do you feel like there is some sort of balance needed? 00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:53.288 I think with physical therapy in general, there is a nice work-life balance because you don't necessarily take your work home. 00:30:53.288 --> 00:30:57.885 You get to treat your patient, you get to treat your client, but then you might have to document afterwards. 00:30:57.885 --> 00:30:58.728 But that's about it. 00:30:58.728 --> 00:31:06.442 And with the free time that I have, I don't have to worry about, oh, I have to get all this done that I have, I don't have to worry about, oh, I have to, like, get all this done for work. 00:31:06.442 --> 00:31:15.710 I don't have projects, I don't have deadlines to meet, I don't have to be consumed by other things other than when I am with my patient. 00:31:15.710 --> 00:31:19.404 That's given me a bit more just mental freedom, I guess. 00:31:19.444 --> 00:31:30.261 So it's kind of nice that way, right there's a lot more like slack or buffer built in that is not so you can compartmentalize, okay, cool, I think that's a lot of good stuff, so we can pivot. 00:31:30.261 --> 00:31:35.059 So the two next topics yeah, the two next topics, we can go, whichever one you want to pick. 00:31:35.059 --> 00:31:42.231 So one is letting go and the other is uggenerated content creation. 00:31:42.392 --> 00:31:43.233 Which one do you want to go with? 00:31:43.233 --> 00:31:45.221 Let's go UGC, it's different, yeah. 00:31:45.784 --> 00:31:46.064 Okay. 00:31:46.064 --> 00:31:51.983 So for those who don't know, which includes me, before I did research what is UGC and how did you get into it? 00:31:52.766 --> 00:31:59.183 So UGC is user-generated content and basically let me backtrack for a second. 00:31:59.183 --> 00:32:19.510 Most people on social media will scroll, or most people on social media will create content for their own, for their own right, and so then you would be considered like an influencer because you're trying to advocate for something or promote something or do something on your own account, but it shows other people how to like either live their life or whatever. 00:32:19.510 --> 00:32:28.333 I'm a really shy person by nature and I also don't have those like creative juices to create content for myself all the time. 00:32:28.333 --> 00:32:34.815 I wish I did, because I love watching vlogs, I love watching just other people like live their lives. 00:32:34.815 --> 00:32:43.152 I live like my life vicariously through that, but I just don't have that in me to just like showcase my life. 00:32:43.172 --> 00:32:59.748 I don't think I'm a very exciting person, but I wanted a different way to supplement my income and I knew that social media was the way to go, because everyone now is on social media and, after doing all this research, there are so many ways that you could make money off of social media. 00:32:59.748 --> 00:33:10.633 I don't want to be an influencer, so I randomly was scrolling and I found I was served this ad of this girl who was advertising her. 00:33:10.633 --> 00:33:17.073 I think like her guide on how to start social media or how to start UGC and so how convenient. 00:33:17.073 --> 00:33:20.046 I know it's like she was like reading my mind. 00:33:20.185 --> 00:33:21.068 Or listening to your phone. 00:33:21.068 --> 00:33:21.650 It's crazy. 00:33:22.050 --> 00:33:23.180 Right, but yeah. 00:33:23.180 --> 00:33:24.240 So I clicked on it and she was like reading my mind or listening to your phone, it's crazy, right, but yeah. 00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:33.671 So I clicked on it and she was just saying now you can just make videos for other brands to post on their social media accounts, and that you don't have to post it on your own social media account. 00:33:33.671 --> 00:33:37.568 And I thought that was amazing, because that's exactly what I wish I could do. 00:33:37.568 --> 00:33:42.894 I didn't know how to do it, so I purchased her guide and I read the entire thing. 00:33:42.894 --> 00:33:50.151 It took me about two to three weeks and I was still really skeptical because I was like is this a scam? 00:33:50.151 --> 00:33:51.353 Like how? 00:33:51.353 --> 00:33:55.490 Because I'm sure you've seen all those ads like, oh, here I'm selling this digital product. 00:33:55.490 --> 00:33:57.123 It's like a buy this course. 00:33:57.163 --> 00:33:58.666 And like what are you even selling? 00:33:58.666 --> 00:34:01.365 You know you're just selling your digital product. 00:34:01.365 --> 00:34:04.462 On how to sell digital products yes, okay, sorry, real quick tangent. 00:34:04.563 --> 00:34:05.566 Yeah, oh, I'm rich. 00:34:05.566 --> 00:34:10.711 I have a lambo, so buy my course on how to also be rich and you're making your money off of this three thousand dollar course. 00:34:10.731 --> 00:34:12.460 What are you actually doing? 00:34:12.460 --> 00:34:13.643 It doesn't make any sense. 00:34:13.643 --> 00:34:14.925 What are you teaching me? 00:34:14.925 --> 00:34:16.469 Just to scam other people? 00:34:16.510 --> 00:34:21.827 so I can create my own course to do exactly what you're doing right now so I'm just, it was just so, it's yeah. 00:34:22.349 --> 00:34:29.012 So I read it and I was like, okay, well, this sounds, this actually sounds like you could do it, so let me try it. 00:34:29.012 -->

00:34:43.934 She has email templates for pitches, she has a couple of contacts, and then she has this whole school community online s k o o l, and it's basically just all those people who bought her guide in one place. 00:34:43.934 --> 00:34:45.923 So it's like an open forum kind of a thing. 00:34:45.923 --> 00:34:55.072 So I started making my portfolio with a sample of videos of things I just had at home and they would give me feedback on how to make it better. 00:34:55.072 --> 00:34:59.190 And then I started pitching to brands and I was like is this real? 00:34:59.190 --> 00:35:01.222 Are people just going to put me in the trash? 00:35:02.123 --> 00:35:06.652 And I started getting these responses with like, oh yeah, cool, what are your rates? 00:35:06.652 --> 00:35:10.990 I was like, oh my God, people are asking me how much I want to get paid. 00:35:10.990 --> 00:35:12.525 So then I went back to the guy. 00:35:12.525 --> 00:35:14.686 I'm like, how much do people actually get paid for this? 00:35:14.686 --> 00:35:15.208 What do I do? 00:35:15.208 --> 00:35:19.728 And so I sent them my rates and then it just started snowballing from there. 00:35:19.728 --> 00:35:24.983 I made one video here, one video there. 00:35:24.983 --> 00:35:31.804 I can't even remember what videos I've made anymore and I've only been doing this since May, and I remember I got my first inbound, which is when someone contacts you. 00:35:33.108 --> 00:35:38.065 And I thought that was the coolest thing, because now I am visible enough in the space. 00:35:38.065 --> 00:35:38.505 How did they? 00:35:38.565 --> 00:35:39.047 find you? 00:35:39.047 --> 00:35:41.072 Do you have a page that's dedicated? 00:35:41.072 --> 00:35:41.413 Oh? 00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:42.367 okay, so I have my portfolio. 00:35:42.367 --> 00:35:43.052 I bought a domain and's dedicated. 00:35:43.052 --> 00:35:43.677 Oh okay, so I have my portfolio. 00:35:43.677 --> 00:35:49.940 I bought a domain and I post all of my examples my best examples on my portfolio with my contact information. 00:35:49.940 --> 00:35:54.451 But the way to get to my portfolio, if you don't know who I am, is through my instagram. 00:35:54.451 --> 00:35:57.125 So I've posted some of those examples on my instagram. 00:35:57.125 --> 00:36:00.181 I have my link in bio and then you can go to my portfolio. 00:36:00.181 --> 00:36:04.518 A lot of my inbounds come from someone seeing those? 00:36:04.619 --> 00:36:05.922 sample videos that you do for. 00:36:05.922 --> 00:36:06.824 Oh, I see, I see. 00:36:07.166 --> 00:36:09.110 So it's not like a lease or what's it called. 00:36:09.110 --> 00:36:14.690 If you're creating content for a business, you're allowed to repost that or what do you? 00:36:14.690 --> 00:36:25.650 Mean because then let's say, I'm a brand and you make a video for me and I pay you right and I'm posting on my social site I guess right but then you're also posting that video on your socials as samples so that people can reach out

to you. 00:36:25.670 --> 00:36:26.291 So that's fine. 00:36:26.291 --> 00:36:28.606 Yes, okay, gotcha, as long as that's in your contract. 00:36:28.606 --> 00:36:29.088 Gotcha, gotcha. 00:36:29.088 --> 00:36:39.302 Some brands don't want you to do that either right, because they want to own that correct yeah, so that's an option, or you can make, like extra videos that aren't given to that brand. 00:36:39.302 --> 00:36:42.989 Then you can make that into your sample video, your sample video gotcha. 00:36:43.409 --> 00:36:45.271 Yeah, so it's been kind of cool. 00:36:45.271 --> 00:36:54.889 I do this on the side, obviously, and I do it in my free time, and it has been like a roller coaster of emotions because it's so different than anything I've done before. 00:36:54.889 --> 00:37:05.264 I've always been intrigued by videos Like even in high school I had my little digital camera and I would just be recording everything and I would post stuff on YouTube. 00:37:05.264 --> 00:37:12.548 But they're just like silly videos Like of just me and my friends hanging out with no like marketing attached to it. 00:37:12.548 --> 00:37:33.204 But knowing that I feel a bit comfortable in front of the camera, especially in private, makes it easier to do, because then you're just kind of doing whatever you know and you're just showing personality and I think that is a way for me to stay creative without using so much of my physical self at times. 00:37:33.266 --> 00:37:37.608 Yeah, I feel that it's like a creative outlet, if not like for a professional sense. 00:37:37.608 --> 00:37:43.221 But you know like a side sort of thing, but I feel like most people need that which is some sort of creative outlet side sort of thing. 00:37:43.240 --> 00:37:44.862 but I feel like most people need that, which is some sort of creative outlet. 00:37:44.862 --> 00:37:55.777 On that note, I guess for people who are curious, do you have any either tips or best practices or how to get into doing user-generated content if someone's interested in doing it. 00:37:55.777 --> 00:38:03.128 I don't know if you want to plug the same place that you learned from or if they're already doing it, like what has worked, been working for you to get some success. 00:38:03.168 --> 00:38:06.943 Yeah yeah, yeah, I would love to plug, so I follow. 00:38:06.943 --> 00:38:09.050 Oh my gosh, what's her handle? 00:38:09.050 --> 00:38:12.128 I think it's TranUGC, okay. 00:38:12.168 --> 00:38:20.208 We'll link it, yes, and her guide is, I think, also TranUGCcom, and she actually just increased her prices. 00:38:20.208 --> 00:38:22.648 But this is like gold. 00:38:22.648 --> 00:38:24.547 This is really valuable information. 00:38:24.547 --> 00:38:40.472 There are a lot of other UGC masters out there and experts and whatnot, but I really feel like the amount of time that she dedicated into creating this guide has been very digestible and user-friendly and it makes you feel like you can do this. 00:38:40.472 --> 00:38:46.045 I've bought a couple other guides at a cheaper price from other people and they're just kind of very generic. 00:38:46.045 --> 00:38:50.548 It's all kind of the same information, but they want you to buy that as a way to buy more. 00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:52.847 Like an entry point to help sell you. 00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:54.987 And I think she does have this mini guide too. 00:38:54.987 --> 00:39:01.742 But, honestly, everything that I've learned has been primarily through this guide and then the community that she provides. 00:39:01.742 --> 00:39:13.543 So I feel like access to people who can answer questions and just provide support, and everyone is just so nice, like you just feel like you're part of a tribe again, and that's what I really wanted is to have that support. 00:39:13.543 --> 00:39:28.961 So, I mean, you can still start it on your own if you just look up how to start UGC on, like ChatGBT or something like that, but I don't think you're going to get the same experience if you don't have people giving you feedback and people giving you the amount of support that you get from community. 00:39:28.961 --> 00:39:29.963 Yeah, okay. 00:39:30.425 --> 00:39:44.128 So you'd recommend the guide from that person and like the community that helps you kind of learn, live, get feedback yeah, it's really simple to start honestly, like I said, you just take whatever products that you actually use in your home and then you just make videos on that. 00:39:44.128 --> 00:39:51.250 There's a formula, it's called the direct response formula, and that's how you guide your script and how you guide your visuals. 00:39:51.250 --> 00:39:53.985 That way, you're not just rambling about these products. 00:39:53.985 --> 00:39:59.262 You have to give like substance and a message, otherwise people are just going to keep scrolling. 00:39:59.262 --> 00:40:05.411 You have to have a hook right, something that engages the audience when they first scroll and to stop them from scrolling. 00:40:05.411 --> 00:40:12.612 And then I feel like, from there, as long as you're just natural about what you're promoting, it should be pretty easy. 00:40:13.581 --> 00:40:14.764 Yeah, Really quick. 00:40:14.764 --> 00:40:27.349 I think I remember if you posted this recently, but it was that video that you did which was like making a song about breaking my sister's something oh my gosh yeah yeah, it was an ad for some sort of it was an app. 00:40:27.349 --> 00:40:29.619 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, that was kind of funny. 00:40:29.619 --> 00:40:30.443 I was like what is this? 00:40:30.443 --> 00:40:34.280 I was like this is actually really well done, because, like, I would definitely download it. 00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:38.789 Oh, really okay good, that was actually one of my first inbounds I got okay, that's cool. 00:40:38.789 --> 00:40:49.579 So it was this ai generated music app and the concept that they wanted me to do was to prank someone, and the song was supposed to tell

them that I broke something or I did something. 00:40:49.579 --> 00:40:57.869 And I really wanted a genuine reaction from my sister, and I am a little sister and so I I do this to my sister all the time, like I am the epitome of a little sister. 00:40:57.869 --> 00:41:16.045 And, mind you, she's like 40, I'm 33, so we, I still punk her, and so I made that video and that was probably the most viewed video on that app's account Because of how extra she was, but it was just a really genuine reaction. 00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:22.947 It's kind of like a proud moment that I was actually able to do something and people responded well to it. 00:41:22.947 --> 00:41:23.610 Yeah, it took off. 00:41:24.820 --> 00:41:26.826 Yeah, that was a fun video, I agree, thanks. 00:41:26.826 --> 00:41:30.172 Okay, so last topic we can get into this. 00:41:30.172 --> 00:41:32.510 We can take as much time as you want, or we don't have to. 00:41:32.510 --> 00:41:38.922 We can go to rapid fire, but it's you mentioned letting go, right, and it's a big thing for you in terms of something that you learned over time. 00:41:38.922 --> 00:41:47.114 My question would be like what are some examples of things that you felt like were important to let go, and or do you want to elaborate on kind of that, what letting go means to you? 00:41:48.061 --> 00:42:14.280 yeah, I think, as someone who dwells on a lot of things, like I'm a very introspective person and I'm extroverted when I have to be, but for the most part like I think a lot of thoughts to myself and, um, there are certain things that you do in life where maybe you look back and you just said, oh, that wasn't my best moment. 00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:19.172 Or you make you say something and you're like, oh crap, like I shouldn't have said that. 00:42:19.172 --> 00:42:30.869 But you can't take it back because it was already said and done and you know, I have a lot of those moments where you just realize that you're just not your best self, even though you think that you are. 00:42:30.869 --> 00:42:52.474 There's one example in when we're still on modern and I was one of the directors I would stay up at night just haunted by my own thoughts, dwelling on ways that I had behaved and ways I had handled certain things. 00:42:52.474 --> 00:43:01.695 But I was also paralyzed with those types of feelings that I didn't know how to get out of it. 00:43:01.695 --> 00:43:03.226 I didn't know how to be a better person. 00:43:03.226 --> 00:43:12.827 It was just very all-consuming, and so I feel like that made me spiral into a dark hole because, oh my gosh, I'm this bad person. 00:43:12.827 --> 00:43:13.590 I can't get out of it. 00:43:13.590 --> 00:43:14.574 This must be who I am. 00:43:14.574 --> 00:43:17.387 So then I continued to just be the same way. 00:43:17.387 --> 00:43:19.192 I couldn't climb myself out of this hole. 00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:28.525 And then, years later, after going to therapy, I realized that you're this way because you care, but you just don't have the guidance. 00:43:28.525 --> 00:43:42.409 You don't know who to ask for help and you're afraid to ask for help or admit that you were wrong, because other people are looking up to you and you can't show that you don't know what you're doing to people who are trying to seek help from you to be a leader. 00:43:42.409 --> 00:44:11.983 So I feel like in my now 30s, my late 20s, I had to let go of all those inner demons and just forgive myself for not being the perfect person that I wish I was or that I thought I was, and reaching out to certain people to kind of get closure because of that, because it's still like, still haunted me, because that's not the person that I want to be remembered as either. 00:44:11.983 --> 00:44:15.070 It's not the person that I was proud of being. 00:44:15.572 --> 00:44:37.277 I think it's important to understand that everyone goes through phases of life and that it's okay if you're not the perfect version of yourself in that moment, but as long as you're able to learn the lessons yourself and kind of grow and be better now than you were before, then that's a win. 00:44:37.277 --> 00:44:39.302 You're constantly growing and evolving. 00:44:39.302 --> 00:44:49.110 But you can't do that if you can't look back at yourself and let go of the things that are eating you alive yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that. 00:44:49.170 --> 00:44:54.108 Thanks for sharing and I feel like a lot of people can relate, I kind of tangentially to that is. 00:44:54.108 --> 00:44:55.960 You know, I ask people a lot what do they regret? 00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:56.903 What would they do differently? 00:44:56.903 --> 00:45:04.996 Right, and a lot of times people will say and this is totally fine, is I don't really have regrets because obviously my mistakes made me who I am now and that's perfectly fine, I agree with that. 00:45:05.436 --> 00:45:13.393 But I also learned recently, too, that your regrets well, I see it differently, meaning I like that. 00:45:13.393 --> 00:45:16.027 I have regrets because it helps me to learn and become a better person. 00:45:16.027 --> 00:45:17.010 It's that accountability. 00:45:17.010 --> 00:45:21.646 Yeah, I messed up and this is my regret and I'm not going to let it haunt me, right? 00:45:21.646 --> 00:45:30.648 I'm not let it eat at me, but I want to always remind myself that it's theirs to keep me accountable, so I won't do it again Because you don't want to just erase, forget, right? 00:45:30.648 --> 00:45:30.900 Because? 00:45:30.900 --> 00:45:36.628 Or else you're not going to learn from that if you don't have that sort of thing that says, hey, remember, you messed up. 00:45:36.748 --> 00:45:36.929 Yeah. 00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:37.621 And that's. 00:45:37.621 --> 00:45:45.648 I think that's healthy and I think there's nothing wrong with that, as long as it, like you said, doesn't eat at you and doesn't cause you from moving forward and becoming that better person, Right right.

00:45:45.820 --> 00:45:47.407 So yeah, I totally agree, I like that. 00:45:48.420 --> 00:45:50.505 Anything else on that before we move on to rapid fire. 00:45:50.505 --> 00:45:52.510 Okay, cool. 00:45:52.510 --> 00:45:53.251 No, I mean, that was good. 00:45:53.251 --> 00:45:54.012 I liked it a lot. 00:45:54.012 --> 00:45:55.867 I think that itself was already gold. 00:45:55.867 --> 00:45:57.925 Okay, rapid fire questions. 00:46:06.260 --> 00:46:07.264 Season two questions. 00:46:07.264 --> 00:46:08.097 We'll start with the billboard question is normal. 00:46:08.028 --> 00:46:09.012 So if you could put up a sign for millions of people to see, what would it? 00:46:08.943 --> 00:46:09.550 say, oh, my God, okay. 00:46:09.550 --> 00:46:18.804 So I thought about this all week and, as most people do, I could have gone so many different directions, right, I could have done something that, like, I've advertised for myself or for something that I'm passionate about, or just something random. 00:46:18.804 --> 00:46:33.144 But I thought about what I see on billboards and how I react to certain billboards, and I feel like if I were to put something up for millions of people to see, I would want to get almost like an immediate reaction out of them. 00:46:33.144 --> 00:46:54.190 And when I say I'm about to say, most people react to it, which is check your posture and and most people will always like Me every like 15 minutes, okay, you know, and as a PT, I'm not trying to be a posture police, but I do know that most people look like this. 00:46:54.190 --> 00:46:59.030 Most people look like they're hunched over, their head is down, I know you guys. 00:46:59.050 --> 00:47:00.072 And guess what? 00:47:00.072 --> 00:47:12.851 All of you guys will give me a hard time to hound on your posture, but then you come in with all this neck and upper back pain, numbness and tingling into your hands. 00:47:12.851 --> 00:47:14.655 Definitely not me. 00:47:14.655 --> 00:47:25.152 And so if I were to just put out a little billboard that just said check your posture immediately, when everyone hears the word posture, they sit up and that's it. 00:47:25.152 --> 00:47:30.079 That's all you got to do is just change positions, because that's what your body wants. 00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:32.746 Your body wants to just be upright. 00:47:32.746 --> 00:47:36.083 So just be upright, but not all the time. 00:47:36.083 --> 00:47:40.548 You can get out of that, but for the majority of the day do not be here. 00:47:40.568 --> 00:47:42.273 Just be aware of your posture, just be aware. 00:47:42.273 --> 00:47:44.407 I love that question. 00:47:44.407 --> 00:47:45.927 That answer very unique. 00:47:45.927 --> 00:47:52.594 I imagine if you put a camera on the freeway and people pass by your billboard, everyone's like just oh my God. 00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:59.052 Car seat posture is also the worst, because you have people who don't fit their car. 00:47:59.052 --> 00:48:07.188 You got big people who are in small cars, small people in big cars and like you get these little people who are like craning their necks. 00:48:07.188 --> 00:48:17.483 It's just horrible and like car seats are not very ergonomic to begin with, and so that's like my number one thing is just, that's something that you can control. 00:48:17.483 --> 00:48:20.949 You just choose not to, so just check your posture. 00:48:20.949 --> 00:48:23.932 Move once every hour, top and bottom every hour. 00:48:23.932 --> 00:48:26.063 Just sit upright, pull your shoulders back. 00:48:26.063 --> 00:48:27.927 That's all so simple. 00:48:27.947 --> 00:48:30.461 You know that's like the theme of my life for the last year. 00:48:30.461 --> 00:48:32.088 I'm like, oh god, check my posture. 00:48:32.088 --> 00:48:34.077 I know this pain as our podcast. 00:48:34.137 --> 00:48:36.710 I was just like this all day yeah that's fine. 00:48:36.710 --> 00:48:37.172 It's fine. 00:48:37.233 --> 00:48:38.619 Now we're gonna check I know we're talking about. 00:48:38.619 --> 00:48:40.503 Our posture is perfect this entire time. 00:48:40.623 --> 00:48:44.172 Hopefully you listening to the audio so you can't check All right. 00:48:44.251 --> 00:48:50.476 Next one what is one of the hardest challenges you faced in your life and what did? 00:48:50.576 --> 00:49:00.871 you learn from it, if anything, you know, I think every transitional period in someone's life is really hard because you're trying to navigate life in a new chapter. 00:49:00.871 --> 00:49:07.034 I guess oh God, I'm trying not to cry here I go again, call me back. 00:49:07.034 --> 00:49:14.289 I was thinking about this and it's still something that I'm trying to figure out. 00:49:14.289 --> 00:49:18.804 Is JR Okay Life without my dad? 00:49:21.032 --> 00:49:48.302 He wasn't a very I'm going to backtrack he was a very supportive person in my life and it's all of the small things that you would do for a family that I took for granted and I felt like, oh, that's just what dads do, right, sorry, I mean yeah, okay, thanks. 00:49:48.302 --> 00:49:57.563 You know he was there for all of my like dance performances, living in LA and then Cabo Kids or Creative Movement, being in Irvine. 00:49:57.563 --> 00:50:15.490 He would drive me every Friday and Sunday after school or at Sunday afternoons he would drive me in like hour and a half traffic, wait for me in his car while he would just watch on his portable DVD player like the same four movies over and over again and then he would drive me home and do it all over again for three years. 00:50:16.193 --> 00:50:18.097 He would always be at like my volleyball games. 00:50:18.157 --> 00:50:20.590 He would always fix things around the house. 00:50:20.590 --> 00:50:31.222 He always had some sort of solution to whatever tangible problem that you had and he was always a person who, even though he would grumble, at a request, he would do it. 00:50:31.222 --> 00:50:33.375 Dad, I forgot my lunch, can you bring it to

me? 00:50:33.375 --> 00:50:34.277 Or, dad, I forgot this? 00:50:34.277 --> 00:50:36.311 Or dad, can you do this, can you pick this up? 00:50:36.311 --> 00:50:46.101 Whatever, he was an active service man and I feel like that had really that really developed my love language of acts of service. 00:50:47.050 --> 00:51:22.978 And now that he's gone, I feel like a little bit like a little lost, because he always had the solution to every problem and having to figure things out for myself like an adult should, it's just it's harder knowing that there is not that person who did have those answers or someone who you could rely on, and it's harder to, I guess, navigate family dynamics without him there, just because it's different Not that it's bad, it's just different. 00:51:22.978 --> 00:51:35.652 So there's always going to be that space where I feel a little bit empty because he's not there, but I feel so appreciative knowing that he had given me so much love. 00:51:35.652 --> 00:51:45.860 So hardest challenge is still, to this day, figuring that out I saw this video with elmo and andrew garfield. 00:51:45.880 --> 00:52:03.652 It just came on my feed and it messed me up and he was talking about him losing his mom recently and elmo was asking about it and andrew garfield was like you know, I know, you know these feelings will make you feel sad, but I also love and appreciate these feelings because it meant that that person meant something to you, which is a good thing. 00:52:03.652 --> 00:52:11.798 Yeah, because that that feeling of emptiness and loss means that they live, they existed, they made that impact on you and we should appreciate and also love those feelings. 00:52:11.938 --> 00:52:19.137 Of course it hurts but, um, it made me kind of see things differently, because we all deal with loss, but if we can see it that way, then we, I don't know. 00:52:19.137 --> 00:52:20.802 I think I feel like you know. 00:52:20.963 --> 00:52:24.697 Just to reframe yeah, totally, so totally but thanks for sharing that. 00:52:24.777 --> 00:52:27.594 I know I'm sure a lot of people can relate or will relate to that. 00:52:27.755 --> 00:52:30.262 All right, next one is self-inflicted wound. 00:52:30.590 --> 00:52:34.286 So do you have a story or something that's gone wrong in your life? 00:52:34.286 --> 00:52:37.500 That is your own fault and you can't blame anyone else because you did it to yourself. 00:52:38.222 --> 00:52:41.938 You know, my answer for this question was actually my nursing school failure, so I'm just going to leave it at that. 00:52:41.938 --> 00:52:44.164 You know was actually my nursing school failure, so I'm just going to leave it at that. 00:52:44.164 --> 00:52:53.460 You know, you make decisions and you pay for the consequences and you just learn how to live with it and move on. 00:52:53.460 --> 00:52:54.141 Yeah, move on. 00:52:54.141 --> 00:52:54.443 Yeah. 00:52:55.451 --> 00:52:57.559 If you could redo one thing, what would you do differently? 00:53:01.255 --> 00:53:02.217 Can we skip this one? 00:53:02.217 --> 00:53:03.420 Yeah, and then come back to it? 00:53:03.420 --> 00:53:03.902 Yeah, we can. 00:53:04.070 --> 00:53:06.373 And I know you talked about a lot of stuff that's similar. 00:53:06.373 --> 00:53:09.913 If you give your, if you could give your younger self advice, what would it be now? 00:53:10.074 --> 00:53:15.469 any age, any time period oh my god, stop plucking your eyebrows. 00:53:15.469 --> 00:53:38.780 I think when you're young and you're pubescent and you want to fit in, and you just have all of these fairy tales in your head about how you're supposed to look and, blah, blah, you're hormonal and you want to just, you know, be be a certain way, you do silly little things and you. 00:53:38.780 --> 00:53:46.922 I have two older sisters and so I would model all of my ways of like beauty and fashion and all these like external things off of them. 00:53:46.922 --> 00:53:54.295 But then, when they went off to college, like, oh my God again, like I feel like I just need other people as a crutch, so tell me how to live my life. 00:53:54.510 --> 00:54:05.507 I am a 33 year old teenager, jr, ok, so so, yeah, I feel like, just on a bigger level, is that it's okay to be who you are. 00:54:05.507 --> 00:54:22.411 You don't need to change to fit someone else's standards, you don't have to worry about what other people are thinking about you, because everyone is worried about themselves, and that if other people are judging you for who you are, then they're not really worth your time. 00:54:22.411 --> 00:54:23.072 And I feel like that is. 00:54:23.072 --> 00:54:24.853 For who you are, then they're not really worth your time and I feel like that is. 00:54:24.853 --> 00:54:35.757 You know that message has been reiterated in some way over and over and over again, but it's true, it doesn't really resonate until it means something to you and you can relate to it. 00:54:35.757 --> 00:54:47.684 And so I feel like if you are just comfortable with yourself, you don't have to be confident, you can just be comfortable, and then that confidence will come, because you're no longer thinking about what others are thinking about you. 00:54:48.804 --> 00:54:49.764 Yeah, I like that a lot. 00:54:49.764 --> 00:54:53.045 Sometimes I'll give, like college students, advice as well. 00:54:53.045 --> 00:55:07.306 I'll preface it with this Like look, you might not understand this or relate to this, let me just tell you and then later on, when you get through that point and you're like, oh yeah what he said was right or like okay, that makes a lot of sense, but you won't even really internalize it until you actually it happens to you or like that mistake or whatever. 00:55:07.769 --> 00:55:08.996 So let me just plant this now. 00:55:08.996 --> 00:55:12.480 I'm not telling you what to do, but just know that the information was there. 00:55:13.070 --> 00:55:13.331 I feel like. 00:55:13.351 -->

00:55:17.536 I should at least do that Totally 100%, 1000%. 00:55:17.536 --> 00:55:22.394 In the last few years, what new belief, behavior or habit has improved your life? 00:55:24.056 --> 00:55:25.557 I think time blocking. 00:55:25.557 --> 00:55:30.121 I've always been a person to live and die by the schedule. 00:55:30.121 --> 00:55:34.146 But after you don't have a schedule anymore, you have to create your own schedule. 00:55:34.146 --> 00:55:50.436 You just lose track of time and then so many tasks just get put in the back burner but then you get overwhelmed. 00:55:50.436 --> 00:55:55.713 Being able to time block and only designate certain things at certain times will save the mental capacity and the emotional capacity, because you only have a certain amount of time to think about things. 00:55:55.713 --> 00:56:03.396 So, for example, my therapist told me to time block and then my friend also reminded this to me as well. 00:56:03.416 --> 00:56:16.632 But if you're feeling a certain way, you're allowed to feel that, but let's like, keep it within 10 minutes because you're dedicating that time for it, but don't let it again consume you because there are other things that you have to focus on. 00:56:16.632 --> 00:56:20.737 So appreciate the time that you have to feel really sad. 00:56:20.737 --> 00:56:24.197 If you have to schedule a 5 minute cry, go for it. 00:56:24.197 --> 00:56:25.923 But also don't feel bad that you have to schedule a five minute cry, go for it. 00:56:25.923 --> 00:56:28.985 But also don't feel bad that you have to do so, because it's healthy to just live through those emotions. 00:56:28.985 --> 00:56:37.715 But since you have so many things to do, you have to prioritize certain things and then time block yourself, so then you can appreciate your freedom. 00:56:37.715 --> 00:56:46.193 So I feel like that has been a habit I'm currently implementing again because I wasn't doing that for the past four years. 00:56:46.193 --> 00:56:49.135 After school it was just like, okay, I'll do it at this time. 00:56:49.135 --> 00:56:57.394 Then you're just kind of living life willy-nilly and you know, so yeah, it's just been more, I've been a bit more productive because of that. 00:56:57.675 --> 00:56:58.838 Nice, I think that's a good tip. 00:56:58.838 --> 00:57:02.753 All right, who would you call successful and how do you define success? 00:57:04.157 --> 00:57:24.521 I feel like success is to every individual and I feel like I've heard this on your podcast before with other people where success is primarily because or success is defined by being or feeling happy with your decisions, and it's not just about like money or accumulating all these accomplishments and accolades. 00:57:24.521 --> 00:57:29.702 It's about doing something and feeling like that had given you the fulfillment, the reward for yourself. 00:57:29.702 --> 00:57:38.644 And so I feel you know you can have all the money in the world, but are you truly happy with how you got that or what exactly you're flaunting? 00:57:38.644 --> 00:57:42.813 Yeah, I feel like you know, success is in the eye of the beholder. 00:57:43.074 --> 00:57:43.835 Yeah, definitely. 00:57:43.835 --> 00:57:47.440 Do you have any specific examples of maybe someone you can point to and be like? 00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:51.824 I really think this person is successful, I like what they're doing, or something like that, if anything? 00:57:52.505 --> 00:58:00.141 Mm, hmm, you know, I actually I thought about this vlogger, this YouTube vlogger that I've been following for the past like 10 years. 00:58:00.141 --> 00:58:01.103 Her name is Jen Im. 00:58:01.811 --> 00:58:26.911 And she is really really well known and she's been in the game for such a long time and she's been a YouTuber primarily as like her full-time thing, and she divulges her life online and she gets really intimate with her viewers, but really she's just talking to a camera, she's talking to no one but everyone at the same time, and she does so just on her own accord, no one's forcing her to do so. 00:58:27.893 --> 00:58:40.141 But then she starts to level up each time that I see her New house, family, this and that, this and that, and so to me, I find her successful because she's found her passion. 00:58:40.141 --> 00:58:41.630 She's gone for it. 00:58:41.630 --> 00:58:51.550 She's gone through all these life trials that she divulges online, that she allows us to see, but yet she comes out of it still doing what she wants to do without. 00:58:51.550 --> 00:59:09.998 It just feels like she's a really genuine and authentic person, and keeping that as an example for how I want to live my life not to say I want to put my life on line all the time, but just being your true, authentic self, with whatever you're doing will then lead the life that you want or will or are deserving of. 00:59:09.998 --> 00:59:11.242 Yes, yeah. 00:59:11.523 --> 00:59:13.914 Yeah, I like that All right. 00:59:14.054 --> 00:59:18.110 Next question If you knew you couldn't fail, what would you try or what would you be doing now? 00:59:19.331 --> 00:59:25.018 Oh, if I was 10 years younger and I really took dance seriously, I would be a professional dancer. 00:59:25.018 --> 00:59:35.590 Oh yeah, I think just again, like you hold yourself back when you don't think that you're good enough, and so then you just go a different route and then again. 00:59:35.590 --> 00:59:36.253 I was pursuing PT at the time. 00:59:36.253 --> 00:59:45.621 But if I knew I couldn't fail, if every audition was like number one, like A plus, I would for sure be a professional dancer on tour with somebody Justin Timberlake. 00:59:46.552 --> 00:59:48.438 I was about to say three top people Justin Timberlake. 00:59:48.510 --> 00:59:57.193 Justin Timberlake or Usher, or I don't even know Anyone anyone, Anyone like that. 00:59:57.213 --> 00:59:57.996 Tier those people. 00:59:57.996 --> 00:59:59.179 I like it. 00:59:59.179 --> 01:00:05.983 What is

one of the best or most worthwhile investments that you've made in time, money, energy, etc. 01:00:05.983 --> 01:00:06.523 Any of those. 01:00:07.590 --> 01:00:11.161 I think, investing in education outside of school. 01:00:11.161 --> 01:00:38.192 So I did a mentorship program with Offset Med and I did one of their like online seminars or online workshops during COVID and I was still a student at the time but it just gave me a different perspective of how other practitioners in the dance field are helping dancers, like athletic trainers, chiropractors, other physical therapists, other dancers just movement-based individuals are helping dancers. 01:00:38.192 --> 01:00:39.032 To that capacity. 01:00:39.032 --> 01:00:47.550 I felt like really gave me inspiration and resources and just a different way again of thinking and how to treat people. 01:00:47.550 --> 01:00:58.956 So, um, yeah, I feel like just do going the extra mile to get supplemental education for your own field is very valuable, especially if you're passionate about that. 01:01:00.420 --> 01:01:12.230 yeah, um, all right, last few recent favorite recent purchase under or around 50 to 100 dollars that has impacted your life the most in the last six months oh, you know, I really couldn't tell you. 01:01:12.230 --> 01:01:26.356 I don't think I've made many purchases in that we can change the time frames or the range okay the spirit of the question is something that has impacted your life, that you bought we try to keep it like lower end, but it doesn't matter if it's higher end. 01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:39.795 Going back to the whole time blocking thing, I know there's a whole bunch of stuff with ai now and you can get all these apps, but I use use motion, that app where it helps me time block. 01:01:39.795 --> 01:01:47.949 So I just plug in the task and it will reshuffle my schedule to allow me to finish that task within a reasonable amount of time. 01:01:47.949 --> 01:01:53.601 So let's say I need to shoot something for UGC and it takes about an hour to two hours. 01:01:53.601 --> 01:02:02.503 I'll just plug that in and then it will put it in my schedule where I have those one to two hour pockets, so that I'm not like, okay, I have to rearrange my schedule. 01:02:02.525 --> 01:02:05.469 Yeah, so that I'm not like, okay, I have to rearrange my own schedule. 01:02:05.489 --> 01:02:11.713 Yeah, so it's kind of nice to keep me productive because it will tell me when I'm past due or again if something major pops up like an actual event. 01:02:11.713 --> 01:02:17.115 I can't reschedule, I can put that in permanently and then it will take my other tasks and then reshuffle it. 01:02:17.115 --> 01:02:18.018 Interesting. 01:02:18.077 --> 01:02:18.500 What was it called? 01:02:18.500 --> 01:02:19.581 Again, motion. 01:02:19.742 --> 01:02:21.492 Motion, but it's like use motion. 01:02:21.994 --> 01:02:23.719 Okay, all right, I'll link it in the notes. 01:02:23.719 --> 01:02:24.780 Yeah, all right. 01:02:24.780 --> 01:02:31.266 Last one Favorite books, movies, videos, articles, media, general media or anything that you share or recommend the most. 01:02:32.030 --> 01:03:04.853 This is something that I recommend to my patients a lot because it's about pain and pain is such a complicated topic to understand, let alone to teach, and I can't just teach it within a 10 minute allowance, so I usually tell people to go to retrainpainorg, and it's this website that has these like two to three minute modules explaining pain in a better way than I could again in 10 minutes, because it has all these pictures and descriptions and blah, blah, blah. 01:03:04.853 --> 01:03:14.942 I think that's a really valuable tool to have for anyone, because everyone experiences some level of pain, but not all pain is bad and not all pain is damaging. 01:03:14.942 --> 01:03:31.565 And that's an important thing to know, because when you're injured, yes, we have pain, but sometimes we have aches and pains and we're like, oh my gosh, something is wrong, but it's usually just our body's alarm system telling us that something is happening versus something is damaging. 01:03:31.565 --> 01:03:37.059 So it's an interesting website to kind of look through, to kind of get a better sense of what pain is. 01:03:37.659 --> 01:03:39.282 Nice, yeah, I think it's a great resource. 01:03:39.282 --> 01:03:44.998 All right, that is it for the rapid fire questions, so we can go into our ending questions. 01:03:44.998 --> 01:03:49.655 So, like to end with gratitude, as always, shout out to my mom for teaching me this. 01:03:49.655 --> 01:03:51.715 So, june, what are you grateful for? 01:03:53.012 --> 01:03:54.724 I am grateful for life. 01:03:54.724 --> 01:03:57.730 I'm grateful for all of my experiences. 01:03:57.730 --> 01:04:03.563 I'm grateful to have this opportunity to reflect on the past 33 years of my life. 01:04:03.563 --> 01:04:21.936 To reflect on the past 33 years of my life and knowing that I am the culmination of all of my, of the people that I surround myself with, whether directly or indirectly, all the experiences I went through, all of the lessons learned, obstacles I had to jump through, all the celebrations, all the wins, all the losses, everything in between. 01:04:21.936 --> 01:04:27.811 I am just so grateful for everything, because life wouldn't be the same. 01:04:27.811 --> 01:04:32.862 Everything has just been right. 01:04:32.862 --> 01:04:34.025 Everything has been right. 01:04:34.025 --> 01:04:36.371 Otherwise, everything would be so different. 01:04:36.371 --> 01:04:38.858 I am grateful for you, for this opportunity. 01:04:38.858 --> 01:04:43.717 Thank you so much, jr, for even coming up with this amazing podcast with a thousand gurus. 01:04:43.717 --> 01:04:53.318 What a great way to explore and Storytell and just learn from a whole bunch of people of different walks of life. 01:04:53.318 --> 01:04:54.340 Thank you for that. 01:04:54.402 --> 01:04:54.702 Thank you. 01:04:54.702 --> 01:04:55.384 Thank you for saying that. 01:04:55.384 --> 01:04:57.577 Appreciate it Cool. 01:04:57.577 --> 01:05:04.003 Any final ask from the audience or like final takeaways that you want them to have and again, feel free to plug. 01:05:06.809 --> 01:05:07.853 Okay, well, shameless plug. 01:05:07.853 --> 01:05:32.565 Then, if you are in the west la area or the surrounding la area and you need a physical therapist whether you have aches or pains or just want someone to walk you through better ways to move if you have any questions about any type of like past injuries, things like that then feel free to hit me up at DrJunePT on Instagram or June at DrJuneRehab. 01:05:32.565 --> 01:05:35.916 I did not make my email, so whatever. 01:05:35.916 --> 01:05:38.134 Yeah, but I think I don't know. 01:05:38.134 --> 01:05:42.804 Main takeaway is that everyone has their own journey. 01:05:42.804 --> 01:05:50.536 Everyone is the guru of their own life and it doesn't matter what anyone else says or what anyone else thinks. 01:05:50.536 --> 01:06:01.443 It really just matters what you think of yourself and treat yourself right and love yourself the most and be a good person every single day. 01:06:03.150 --> 01:06:03.652 Fantastic. 01:06:03.652 --> 01:06:04.152 I love it. 01:06:04.152 --> 01:06:04.835 Thank you so much. 01:06:04.835 --> 01:06:06.510 Yeah, it was great to catch up. 01:06:06.510 --> 01:06:07.416 I really appreciate it, thank you. 01:06:07.416 --> 01:06:08.967 Thank you for being here and taking the time. 01:06:08.967 --> 01:06:11.422 I know we're a little bit over and I know we could probably go on for hours. 01:06:11.422 --> 01:06:16.759 Maybe we'll do a part two sometime or catch up or another life events that you'll all be together for. 01:06:16.759 --> 01:06:18.911 But yeah, this was a great conversation. 01:06:18.911 --> 01:06:21.195 I think we learned a lot and I think the audience will appreciate it. 01:06:21.195 --> 01:06:33.061 You are very introspective and thoughtful and I can tell, because when I interview people it's like you know, you can tell who's really thought about certain things and I feel like that really gives a lot to other people so I really appreciate it. 01:06:33.282 --> 01:06:35.735 Thank you cool, so we'll sign off now. 01:06:35.735 --> 01:06:37.197 So thank you, guys, for tuning in. 01:06:37.197 --> 01:06:45.172 Again a reminder to always be kind to others, especially yourself, and that you can always learn something from someone if you just take the time to listen. 01:06:45.172 --> 01:06:47.760 So thank you for tuning in, thanks.