Changelings: Faeries, Neurodivergence, and Human Scapegoats의 전체 녹취록

00:04:27.920 I you'll actually be really proud of me. 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:29.680 I also went to a Halloween mark. 00:04:29.839 --> 00:04:30.879 And you bought nothing. 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:32.399 I bought nothing. 00:04:32.720 --> 00:04:37.839 I stared at this one print for so long though, because it would have worked for your wall. 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:44.639 Oh because I was uh gonna buy it for you, and it said creep it real, and it had like goat horns on it, right? 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:46.000 And it was kind of holographic. 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:49.600 I'm like, okay, we promised we weren't buying Tchotchkis anymore. 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:50.480 I'm like, but it's so cheap. 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:53.519 Finally, I did go back and I was like, so how much are these? 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:54.160 Oh god. 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:55.759 I did not buy you the print. 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:57.040 Well, how much was it? 00:04:57.279 --> 00:04:57.839 40. 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:01.040 Oh, that's not bad though, but still that's print. 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:05.040 Oh, not an it's not an original piece, it's just a print of it. 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:06.480 Never mind, that's not good at all. 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:08.879 Yeah, I thought it was like an original, then I'm like, that's not that bad. 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:09.439 No, no, no. 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:13.120 It's like, you know how like still like do reprints of them. 00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:14.480 So I'm like, no. 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:18.160 But I do have to say I was really impressed with this vendor fair. 00:05:18.319 --> 00:05:21.519 It was there's way too many people there, which that's good for them. 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:26.720 It was bad for me, but I did not see because you couldn't hardly see anything. 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:33.600 Yeah, I didn't see one piece of 3D printed anything in the entire fair. 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:37.439 Now, where I will knock them, they had a hot dog vendor there. 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:38.319 Okay. 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:40.399 Six dollars. 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:42.879 Oh god, I had a Costco hot dog today. 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:44.000 Standard hot dog. 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:46.959 Yeah, that's that's four Costco dogs. 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:47.839 That's crazy. 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:48.959 I love a hot dog. 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:51.920 I can't spend six dollars for no. 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:54.560 But that's all I've done really for spooky season. 00:05:54.639 --> 00:05:58.399 I mean, I know we're past spooky season, but it's still a couple days away for us. 00:05:58.639 --> 00:06:11.279 Oh, I was supposed to go to that book signing I was telling you about, and then like the little haunted library thing, but then I got COVID and I still have lingering So if I sound wrong, I'm sorry, I cannot help it. 00:06:11.519 --> 00:06:14.000 At least you have a good excuse for not getting your words out today. 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:14.399 Yeah. 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:17.120 Oh, and then on top of it, this is even crazier. 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:23.680 Last night I was sitting on the couch and I'm like, I feel a little weird, like my face felt a little numb. 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:25.040 And I was like, that's weird. 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:27.040 But sometimes that I don't know, sometimes that happens to me. 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:28.319 Like my lip will swell up. 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:28.720 I don't know. 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:29.120 It's weird. 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:29.439 Okay. 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:30.879 So I'm like, okay, whatever. 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:35.120 And then I laid down with Delilah, and I was like, dang, my throat feels a little strange. 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:38.480 But again, I'm still like have COVID shit, right? 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:41.680 So I'm like, okay, but it kind of felt like my throat was swelling up. 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:42.639 Do you know that feeling? 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:45.199 Like where it feels like there's something in your throat, but I didn't eat anything. 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:47.040 I feel like I get that with allergies a lot. 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:51.199 Okay, so then I lay down for a little bit and I couldn't get over that feeling. 00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:52.639 I was like, what the heck's going on? 00:06:52.800 --> 00:07:01.519 And so like I get up, I go look at myself in the mirror, my eyes are fucking swollen, my face is red and splotchy all the way down to my neck. 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:04.000 No idea what I had an allergic reaction to. 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:08.639 But I literally had to like pop like a bunch of Benadryl and then just be done for the rest of the night. 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:10.639 So I don't know what's going on with me. 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:12.639 There's always something. 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:14.879 So, but I'm here. 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:16.720 We're here with that. 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:18.079 Let's get the shop open. 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:19.360 Do you have any shop talk? 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:23.519 Because I'm gonna be honest with you, I I did not come prepared with any shop talk today. 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:28.399 Um, there's not really not too much has been uh popping. 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:33.360 I know you're you're back to doing all your TikToks again, so go give us a follow on TikTok. 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:39.360 There is a ton of people on TikTok like talking to us and stuff, but like just about obviously the videos. 00:07:39.600 --> 00:07:47.759 There was somebody that commented something on one of our so somebody commented on one of our things on uh YouTube. 00:07:48.399 --> 00:07:55.199 And my question was, what is like one thing in the universe that if you saw you'd be like, okay, the universe is not like what it is or whatever. 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:55.600 Yeah. 00:07:55.839 --> 00:08:02.000 And Jay Taylor 9947 put if a politician revealed a reptilian face on live broadcast.

00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:06.879 I mean, I'm surprised that hasn't happened yet with everything else they're doing on TV. 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:08.160 So that's fair. 00:08:08.319 --> 00:08:09.439 I'm like, yeah, that's a good one. 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:10.240 That's solid. 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:13.199 I mean, at this point, just count down the days till it actually does happen. 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:14.000 I know, right? 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:14.879 Okay, so fun. 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:17.519 Yes, leave us comments, maybe we'll read them on the air. 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:20.240 Uh, but with that, I think we just get it open. 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:23.920 You gotta do you have a question for me so we can get this party started. 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:28.879 Okay, your child just ensued pure chaos before we started recording. 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:30.000 The cat, yeah. 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:31.600 You guys will probably hear him in the other room. 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:33.919 He's literally clawing at the doors trying to get in here. 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:40.240 If he just develops a weird thing, I'm being vague, would you keep him? 00:08:40.480 --> 00:08:48.559 I mean, I feel like you have to be a little bit less vague because like if the weird thing is like, you know, he uh Your answer's supposed to be he's my child. 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:50.240 I'm keeping him no matter what. 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:51.600 Oh yeah. 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:53.200 It's it depends. 00:08:53.279 --> 00:08:55.039 Okay, my love can be conditional. 00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:58.559 If this weird thing is like, I don't know, he shits in every room three times. 00:08:58.960 --> 00:09:03.440 Delilah could literally do anything, anything, and I would never get rid of her. 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:04.399 There's nothing she could do. 00:09:04.559 --> 00:09:06.480 She could she runs your entire world. 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:09.440 She could murder you and I would still keep her. 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:20.399 I do keep telling Pat that when he's not in the room that Booby speaks English to me and keeps telling me that the reason he's here is because he's on the run because he killed a man up in uh Nevada, and I think I almost have him convinced. 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:21.600 Why Nevada? 00:09:21.759 --> 00:09:22.240 I don't know. 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:25.759 Okay, it's just where he decided to cur kill. 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:30.000 I keep why do you say kill and murder curder? 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:31.600 Okay. 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:34.240 Oh, actually, I do have a really quick question though. 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:37.279 An actual, like, do you think Gypsy killed him? 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:38.559 What's his name? 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:10.360 Ooh, Ken. 00:10:10.840 --> 00:10:11.159 Yeah. 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:12.600 Oh god. 00:10:12.840 --> 00:10:18.920 I need to go down the rabbit hole more than I the little bit that I have, but apparently it was a drug overdose or

something. 00:10:19.159 --> 00:10:19.720 I don't know. 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:28.920 Well, it seemed like it was staged to be a drug overdose, but the toxicology, the initial one, came back stating there is nothing in his system. 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:30.759 So some I don't know, man. 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:35.240 I I hope she didn't, but I wouldn't be surprised. 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:39.080 That is just so I'm not saying that that he's my age. 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:40.680 I he it's wild. 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:41.240 I don't know. 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:48.120 I'm not saying that like crazy things can't happen to people, like multiple wild things can't happen to a person. 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:49.000 Like, come on now. 00:10:49.159 --> 00:10:53.960 But like that is just so it's yeah, the timing. 00:10:54.200 --> 00:11:00.519 I don't know if coincidental is like the word I'm looking for, but it's just like what are the what are the chances? 00:11:00.920 --> 00:11:02.840 The chances are not great. 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:05.399 Maybe we'll do another episode soon. 00:11:05.560 --> 00:11:06.279 Okay, all right. 00:11:06.519 --> 00:11:07.800 What do you have for me this week? 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:08.440 All right. 00:11:08.759 --> 00:11:14.680 I kept getting stuck on something, and I was like, I I wanted to cover it for a while. 00:11:14.840 --> 00:11:15.080 No, no. 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:16.360 No, no, it's not bad. 00:11:16.519 --> 00:11:23.800 It's just it took me down a rabbit hole or a tunnel or whatever, not where I expected. 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:25.720 I still can't hear rabbit hole. 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:34.200 Tunnel search our episodes for rabbit in the the name and have it ruined for you if you haven't listened to it already. 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:37.480 I wanted to look into changelings. 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:38.040 Okay. 00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:38.600 Okay. 00:11:38.920 --> 00:11:43.240 So I kind of was like going down this hole of changelings. 00:11:43.560 --> 00:11:51.240 But then that led me into fairies, neurodivergence, and the human scapegoat is what we're calling this. 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:51.800 Wow. 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:52.279 Okay. 00:11:52.519 --> 00:12:04.440 We're gonna deep dive into the most chilling, pervasive, and misunderstood dark tales of European folklore, the legend of the changeling. 00:12:04.680 --> 00:12:05.000 Okay. 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:15.720 I actually don't know a whole lot about these other than like just from nerdy games, they're like, there's always like I feel in Dungeons and Dragons esque kind of thing, there's always a changeling sort of deal. 00:12:15.960 --> 00:12:24.040 I do just want to say, like, before we like crack open this vault uh of fairy lore, I have to drop a quick disclaimer. 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:36.279 This is not where I thought this episode was going to, and I'm going to give full respect to that unseen world that we are not talking any wrong about the Faye, the fairy

folk, the nature spirits. 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:38.840 That is not even what I wanted this episode to be about. 00:12:38.920 --> 00:12:40.920 I didn't realize that they correlated. 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:43.560 I was kind of surprised you usually stay away from that one. 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:48.519 And I mean add to your spoiler on this one because usually I'll just let you give a blanket. 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:49.800 We respect you. 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:54.279 I know enough about fairies to say I also respect you. 00:12:54.680 --> 00:12:56.519 Well, I meant we I meant like us. 00:12:56.759 --> 00:12:57.720 I know you mean we. 00:12:58.040 --> 00:13:04.519 I just want to audibly say it because this is how much I am uh aware of what they will do. 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:05.399 Right. 00:13:05.560 --> 00:13:12.360 And so, like connecting with local spirits takes, you know, real reverence, clear boundaries, clean intent. 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:18.440 And we are definitely not trying to catch a curse or disrespect the otherworldly today. 00:13:18.600 --> 00:13:20.040 So that's my little disclaimer. 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:20.840 Perfect. 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:22.279 Hopefully that's good. 00:13:24.840 --> 00:13:25.720 Love buffet. 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:27.159 Uh all right. 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:28.519 So here's the thing. 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:32.440 Today it's it isn't about blaming supernatural, though. 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:39.800 It's or for like not blaming them for like the terrifying stuff um documented like in the old changeling stories. 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:44.519 Because spoiler alert spoiler spoiler alert. 00:13:45.159 --> 00:14:03.000 It wasn't really tiny magical creatures doing horrible things, it was human fear, a total lack of medical science, and straight up human cruelty that led people to scapegoat fairies for autism, disability, and non-conformity. 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:04.200 Oh no. 00:14:04.440 --> 00:14:06.200 So it wasn't Tylenol. 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:07.720 No. 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:08.519 Okay. 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:20.120 So to understand the sheer terror of the changeling, you first have to step into a world where the boundary between our reality and the other world was just like that razor thin, right? 00:14:20.680 --> 00:14:26.440 So forget the sweet, glittery godmothers of modern Disney character cartoons. 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:31.080 Uh, in classic European and Cel it's Celtic, right? 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:32.600 Because I always say it wrong. 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:39.480 Celtic traditions, the Fey were powerful, capricious, and deeply uncanny beings. 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:41.159 What does capricious mean? 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:43.800 Like moody, rude, like Okay. 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:47.560 It's one of those words where like I know it in context, but I don't actually know what it means. 00:14:47.960 --> 00:14:49.480 Like their mood can just flip. 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:49.960 Okay. 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:52.200 Okay, I'm gonna try to pronounce this correctly. 00:14:52.680 --> 00:15:03.080 They were two Aha De Danun, the ancient real gods who retreated into the hollow she mounds, and humans claimed the land. 00:15:03.560 --> 00:15:09.960 Okay, so they were fallen angels, deemed too good for hell, but too wicked for heaven. 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:13.800 And so they were doomed to wander the earth until judgment day. 00:15:14.120 --> 00:15:14.360 Okay. 00:15:14.759 --> 00:15:14.920 Okay. 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:17.480 Almost like almost like a chance to redeem themselves. 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:19.560 Well, yeah, yeah, I guess. 00:15:19.879 --> 00:15:31.480 So they were divided into the light-hearted yet fickle Seely Court and the dark, mercilessless, merciless, I can't merciless. 00:15:32.680 --> 00:15:33.080 Thank you. 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:34.759 Uh unsealy court. 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:39.639 So fairies lived by codes entirely foreign to human morality. 00:15:40.120 --> 00:15:40.360 Okay. 00:15:40.519 --> 00:15:40.840 Okay. 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:48.920 And they possessed an insatiable desire for human youth, uh, vitality and beauty. 00:15:49.320 --> 00:15:51.879 An insatiable is what did I say? 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:53.080 Insationable. 00:15:55.399 --> 00:15:56.840 Just leave me be. 00:15:57.240 --> 00:16:10.360 Okay, because fairy blood was said to grow thin over centuries, or because their own offspring was often frail, the fairy folk looked into human nurseries with hungry eyes. 00:16:11.560 --> 00:16:21.960 And so, under the cover of darkness, while a mother slept, or when a hearth fire flickered low, a creature would slip through the keyhole or down the chimney. 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:35.720 They would steal away a healthy, thriving human infant, carrying the child off to the eternal feasts and shadowy halls of the other world, where time ran backward and mortal souls were bound forever. 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:36.600 Yikes. 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:43.480 And in place of a cherished baby, the Fey left an imposter, a changeling. 00:16:43.800 --> 00:16:44.680 Oh, okay. 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:46.600 Oh, okay. 00:16:46.759 --> 00:16:48.680 I based on what you said earlier. 00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:53.639 I So what are your thoughts though, when you were talking about what you knew about changelings? 00:16:53.800 --> 00:17:04.839 What did you or like what was your it's just always like the only time I've ever really is uh like the Dragon's Age game where it's just like something that was like a sh a shape shifter sort of character that you could play. 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:09.720 So okay, that's kind of like what I I knew it wasn't just like a shape shifter. 00:17:09.879 --> 00:17:12.839 I knew it was something different, but like that is what I thought. 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:20.359 And I remember when I was younger watching a movie called The Changeling, and it's not I looked it up and it's not the one with damn, what's her name?

00:17:20.519 --> 00:17:24.759 The actress that married or that had a bajillion kids with Brad Pitt, Angelina Jones. 00:17:24.920 --> 00:17:25.399 Oh, Angelina. 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:27.240 It's it's not that movie. 00:17:27.399 --> 00:17:27.879 It was weird. 00:17:27.960 --> 00:17:30.039 It was one that like truly terrified me. 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:33.319 But thinking back on it, I definitely didn't really understand it. 00:17:33.399 --> 00:17:37.240 But now doing this research, because basically they locked this kid up in the attic. 00:17:37.959 --> 00:17:40.359 And I think it was because he had mental health issues. 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:43.719 Because I remember him having a wheelchair, it was just a very terrifying movie. 00:17:43.879 --> 00:17:44.119 Yeah. 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:48.039 And I think this more correlates with this, but I didn't really understand it then. 00:17:48.679 --> 00:17:51.159 But ever since I watched that movie, I'm like, what the hell is it changing? 00:17:51.399 --> 00:17:52.759 I watched that way too young. 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:54.119 Now we're all gonna know. 00:17:54.359 --> 00:17:54.679 Right. 00:17:55.159 --> 00:18:01.799 So imagine waking up to discover that your sweet, smiling newborn had transformed overnight. 00:18:02.039 --> 00:18:09.240 The child left behind in the cradle looked almost like your baby, but something was terribly, fundamentally wrong. 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:15.719 Sometimes the substitute was sickly with uh uh uh was a sickly, withered fairy child. 00:18:16.119 --> 00:18:24.199 Other times it was an innocent, decrept fairy who wished to spend the its dying years being pampered and nursed by a human woman. 00:18:24.439 --> 00:18:25.879 That's how I'd want to die. 00:18:26.039 --> 00:18:29.959 Yeah, I guess it wouldn't have to be a woman either, just being pampered and nursed. 00:18:30.199 --> 00:18:31.399 So just go to the nursing home. 00:18:31.559 --> 00:18:34.439 Yeah, but I don't feel like they actually pamper and nurse in many of those. 00:18:34.679 --> 00:18:35.240 Maybe not. 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:53.559 Um, and in the worst cases, it wasn't even a living creature at all, but a stock, which was a piece of bogwood or a bundle of twigs enchanted to look like a baby, only to wither and die a few days later, leaving the family grieving a block of rotten timber. 00:18:53.879 --> 00:18:55.480 Yikes, okay. 00:18:56.839 --> 00:18:59.480 I I have no words. 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:05.480 Wait, okay, if it's enchanted, actually I do have they don't know it's a Okay, so they think it's like still their child. 00:19:05.559 --> 00:19:23.159 They're not looking at a piece of wood, but they're holding a piece of wood and they're just not perceiving it because of correct, but then because it's like a magic like spell, if you will, yeah, it like fades and then it literally just like dies, and I'm probably so to them are they does it look like a dead child, or do they just walk in one day and they're

like, Oh, here's a block of wood? 00:19:23.399 --> 00:19:24.759 No, they think their baby died. 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:25.959 Oh, that's sad. 00:19:26.199 --> 00:19:33.159 Okay, so the legend warned that a changeling could be identified by bizarre, disturbing traits. 00:19:33.399 --> 00:19:33.639 Okay. 00:19:33.879 --> 00:19:50.599 A baby who had once been cheerful would become suddenly silent, staring at the ceiling with ancient knowing eyes, or they would weep restlessly without reason, possessing an ins what did I say insatiable? 00:19:50.839 --> 00:20:01.639 Insatiable insatiable, insatiable appetite that threatened to eat a poor peasant family out of house and home, or display like uncanny supernatural knowledge. 00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:02.919 I don't know how a baby does that. 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:05.159 Yeah, I want to know how they wait, what was it? 00:20:05.399 --> 00:20:08.359 Look off with the eyes of ancient wisdom, you said. 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:10.199 Yeah, ancient knowing. 00:20:10.599 --> 00:20:13.480 I think that's just what does that look even look like? 00:20:13.719 --> 00:20:21.240 I think that's just, you know, when we or babies just look off and they just look like I don't think it's anything special. 00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:23.719 Just with big we're just thinking. 00:20:24.519 --> 00:20:27.399 Next time I just like daze off, and someone says, What do you do? 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:29.639 I'll be like, it's my ancient knowing. 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:32.439 That's how you got 5150'd. 00:20:32.679 --> 00:20:33.799 My ancient knowing. 00:20:33.879 --> 00:20:34.119 Yeah. 00:20:34.439 --> 00:20:45.000 Tails spoke of changelings leaping from their cradles when adults turn their backs to play tiny fiddles or dance widely on the hearth. 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:45.639 Okay. 00:20:45.959 --> 00:20:46.839 That scares me. 00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:49.559 I just want to know where they get the tiny like why? 00:20:49.719 --> 00:20:53.240 Why why do they feel compelled to play a tiny little fiddle? 00:20:53.399 --> 00:20:58.759 Well, because remember, they're like, if we're thinking that they're actually changelings, they're actually like fairy folk. 00:20:59.000 --> 00:20:59.879 Yeah, no, I get it. 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:03.240 So maybe they just decide that they want to play the fuck fiddle after. 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:05.719 Yeah, I guess I know better than to question the Faye. 00:21:05.879 --> 00:21:07.079 I'm not, that's what I'm saying. 00:21:07.159 --> 00:21:07.879 I'm not. 00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:10.599 If you want to play your fiddle, you play your fiddle, baby. 00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:11.319 Wherever you want. 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:24.279 Okay, so to expose the creatures, villagers use strange rituals like brewing water in empty eggshells to shock the ancient spirit into laughing and revealing its true centuries-old identity. 00:21:24.519 --> 00:21:26.919 I don't know why that would be funny and make somebody laugh. 00:21:27.159 --> 00:21:28.279 Were these people okay? 00:21:28.599 --> 00:21:28.919 No. 00:21:29.480 --> 00:21:29.639 Okay. 00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:31.719 I don't think they were. 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:44.679 So let's kind of step out of like this enchanting, foggy folklore, and then let's look at like the grim, like the actual historical realities of this. 00:21:44.919 --> 00:21:45.240 Okay. 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:57.959 When you examine like the exact symptoms that were described in medieval and early modern changeling accounts, that's kind of like when this disguise of this magic or whatnot vanishes, right? 00:21:58.119 --> 00:22:01.559 Because it's yeah, it exposes a really painful truth. 00:22:01.719 --> 00:22:20.359 Um, so the sudden changes in behavior that they were referring to is a child who like maybe stopped eye contact, like stopped looking when you're talking, or lost speech skills, engaged in like the repetitive rocking, experienced severe like sensory meltdowns, or fixated interests on like one thing. 00:22:20.519 --> 00:22:28.199 And those are really just like characteristics of autism spectrum conditions, often like noticeable, like right around toddlerhood. 00:22:28.279 --> 00:22:33.319 I'm not a doctor, don't listen to what I Just say and assume that everyone has autism that does that. 00:22:33.480 --> 00:22:39.159 But those were some characteristics that we now can say, oh, at this time your child was doing that. 00:22:39.319 --> 00:22:41.399 That could have that might not have been the fairy folk. 00:22:41.719 --> 00:22:44.279 Can I make like a quick note here too on that front? 00:22:44.679 --> 00:22:52.279 So for the arguers of the there's so why everyone today has autism, or there's so many more cases, whatever. 00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:56.839 It's because for hundreds of years we didn't have a name or an understanding. 00:22:57.159 --> 00:22:58.759 Well, we didn't want to talk about it. 00:22:59.000 --> 00:22:59.480 Exactly. 00:22:59.719 --> 00:23:00.279 We hit it. 00:23:00.519 --> 00:23:04.679 So there's a reason that there's more numbers now. 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:07.480 Um it's not just Tylenol. 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:08.119 Okay. 00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:08.839 Right. 00:23:09.079 --> 00:23:24.199 Uh so physical changes though, like the muscles wasting or severe joint stiffness or failure, failure to gain weight align with like cerebopalsy, Down syndrome, spino bifida, any genetic disorders, or like childhood failure to like thrive. 00:23:24.599 --> 00:23:33.639 So in an era though, without modern medicine, genetics, or developmental psychology, families had no scientific framework, kind of like you're just talking about. 00:23:33.959 --> 00:23:35.480 Yeah, you're just gonna go to the stories. 00:23:35.639 --> 00:23:35.879 Right. 00:23:36.039 --> 00:23:43.240 Why their healthy child suddenly regressed or developed like extremely differently than other children. 00:23:43.480 --> 00:23:50.439 So the changeling myth myth

provided, though, a convenient supernatural explanation for the unexplainable. 00:23:51.079 --> 00:23:55.959 So tragically, uh, the myth was more than just like a story, right? 00:23:56.119 --> 00:24:14.519 It kind of turned into a weapon because believing that the creature in the cradle was not their flesh and blood, but a soulless fairy parasite, parents and communities felt justified in inflicting horrific violence to force the Fey to return the real child. 00:24:14.759 --> 00:24:17.719 Yeah, and how many of these cases did the real child come back? 00:24:17.959 --> 00:24:19.079 Yeah, right, exactly. 00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:19.879 Oh no. 00:24:20.119 --> 00:24:24.839 So children suspected of being changelings were subjected to unspeakable trials. 00:24:25.079 --> 00:24:37.319 So they were held over red-hot iron shovels, bathed in boiling herbal concoctions, left naked on cold stone altars overnight, or submerged in freezing rivers. 00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:40.519 I really should have put a disclaimer on the beginning of this. 00:24:40.679 --> 00:24:41.000 Yeah. 00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:42.199 Sorry. 00:24:42.519 --> 00:24:46.679 Um, and I'm not laughing because it's funny, I'm laughing because it's uncomfortable. 00:24:46.919 --> 00:24:47.240 Okay. 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:52.279 So if the child died during these ordeals, it wasn't viewed as murder, right? 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:56.759 Because the community convinced themselves that the fairy had simply fled back to the other world. 00:24:57.079 --> 00:25:00.919 Since we've been talking about fairies, by the way, just want to point this out. 00:25:01.159 --> 00:25:01.480 Yeah. 00:25:01.879 --> 00:25:05.480 My entire background is 100% clear, but I'm blurry. 00:25:05.799 --> 00:25:06.359 I know. 00:25:06.679 --> 00:25:07.000 Okay. 00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:08.439 I didn't want to say anything. 00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:09.399 Cool. 00:25:09.879 --> 00:25:16.439 Okay, so in reality, this superstition acted as a brutal social pressure valve, right? 00:25:16.599 --> 00:25:26.439 So it guys some wonkiness going on in this camera right now. 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:29.959 Listen, FaZe, fairies, we actually love you. 00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:31.480 We're proving that this wasn't you. 00:25:31.639 --> 00:25:32.519 You didn't do it. 00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:33.799 Oh, you're back. 00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:35.000 They liked my apology. 00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:35.559 Thank you. 00:25:35.719 --> 00:25:39.000 Because literally the second she did that, I came back into focus. 00:25:39.079 --> 00:25:39.799 My entire camera. 00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:40.359 Okay, yeah. 00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:42.839 All my background, clear focus, my face, not. 00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:43.480 Thank you. 00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:44.119 Okay. 00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:45.319 I think we're good. 00:25:45.719 --> 00:25:46.199 Everybody. 00:25:46.679 --> 00:25:47.639 Let's keep going. 00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:48.439 Okay. 00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:53.319 So, um uh oh,

okay. 00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:55.480 I'm gonna try to not butcher this. 00:25:55.799 --> 00:26:02.679 In impoverished agrarian, which is a cultivated land, farming, or rural societies. 00:26:02.919 --> 00:26:03.399 I don't know. 00:26:03.639 --> 00:26:03.879 Okay. 00:26:04.199 --> 00:26:16.359 Uh societies where survival where survival depended on every member being able to labor in the fields, a disabled child was often seen as an unbearable burden, right? 00:26:16.439 --> 00:26:25.079 So the changeling belief provided a socially acceptable, guilt-free avenue for infantide, abandonment, and severe neglect. 00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:33.719 I'm not making a case for infanticide, but like, do we really have to put them on a hot iron to do it? 00:26:33.959 --> 00:26:34.519 You know? 00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:36.679 Like it's like the witch trials. 00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:43.000 All the witch trials were the craziest of things just to prove that you were a witch, and it never actually proved that you were a witch. 00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:45.559 It just either killed you or and that's it. 00:26:45.719 --> 00:26:46.279 Yeah, pretty much. 00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:50.359 And then we're just like, oh, well, it's okay because we were trying to prove that you were a witch. 00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:52.679 And they obviously were witch, so right. 00:26:52.919 --> 00:26:53.799 Humans are the worst. 00:26:53.959 --> 00:26:54.519 I know, right? 00:26:54.599 --> 00:27:05.799 When we were just kind of getting into this, this also is like kind of leading into what we've talked about before, though, like when a mother or a woman was like unruly or whatever, they were put away because there's something wrong with them. 00:27:05.959 --> 00:27:13.240 So this same thing is like this legend weaponized misogyny because mothers were consistently blamed for the loss of their child. 00:27:13.480 --> 00:27:31.639 If a mother looked away for a second, failed to place iron nails over the cradle, which was a superstition of theirs, yeah, or suffer suffered from postpartum depression, or gave birth to a child with a birth defect, she was ashamed and accused of niggas negligence, which okay, how's that any of her fault? 00:27:31.959 --> 00:27:33.079 I I agree with you. 00:27:33.159 --> 00:27:37.480 However, I can see medical people doing doing all of that. 00:27:37.959 --> 00:27:49.399 There's a famous 1895 Irish case of Bridget Cleary, uh, a woman who was burned alive by her husband because he convinced himself she had been replaced by a changeling. 00:27:49.719 --> 00:28:03.319 Um, and that just again demonstrates like how these dark superstitions were used to like control, they were to abuse, and then basically get away with murder for non-conforming women or children that weren't. 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:07.719 Because the victims of these horrible, horrible things, right? 00:28:07.879 --> 00:28:13.959 It's not like I kind of think of some modern day possession type of stuff, right? 00:28:14.119 --> 00:28:22.919 But like there are times where the person doesn't live, but in most times, right, when you're you're exercising a demon, yeah, it's violent, but the person usually lives, right? 00:28:23.159 --> 00:28:29.639 And I'm I'm not saying this is in all possessions, I'm saying I think some are dumb that are mental health related, right? 00:28:29.879 --> 00:28:30.279 For sure. 00:28:30.439 --> 00:28:41.959 But in and what you're talking about is the the victims never have a chance to like refute the fact that they're not taken over by Faye because they're dead, and it's it's horrible, yeah. 00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:46.519 But also, like even more so in this case, these are babies, yeah. 00:28:46.679 --> 00:28:54.199 Like they don't have any way to speak up for themselves, no, they were colicky and now they're a changeling, right? 00:28:54.519 --> 00:28:58.679 Yeah, honestly, a lot of these kids probably had nothing wrong with them at all. 00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:03.000 They were just like, yeah, colicky, or just like an extra fussy baby, right? 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:08.679 Like God, or maybe they did just like to stare off into the abyss for a little bit. 00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:12.519 It's not the abyss, they're ancient knowing, they're ancient knowing. 00:29:12.679 --> 00:29:16.199 It's fine, it doesn't mean they're a fae. 00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:18.039 Oh my gosh. 00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:21.159 That's kind of it at the end of the day. 00:29:21.399 --> 00:29:47.559 Obviously, we love things weird and unexplained, but we do need to separate spiritual belief from like the unseen and awful stuff that humans do by their hands because inflict on each other and nature spirits and the fee, they make up amazing and mysterious worlds, but human fear, ableism, and misogyny were the real villains behind the changing tragedy. 00:29:47.879 --> 00:30:01.879 And obviously, looking back in history with empathy, we can honor the victims and kind of break down the stigma around neurodivergence and disability and build a world that actually protects people instead of turning them into scapegoats and blaming it on the Fay folk. 00:30:02.199 --> 00:30:11.399 I'm gonna guess not just because of the timelines of this, but is there any idea of how many children were lost by being blamed as changelings? 00:30:12.439 --> 00:30:14.759 I honestly didn't want to look it up. 00:30:15.159 --> 00:30:18.759 But I'm sure it's let's see if I can Google it really quickly. 00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:19.319 Okay. 00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:27.799 Because, like, was this, you know, it makes you wonder, is it just happening in one small town where it was prevalent, or was this like a widespread? 00:30:28.439 --> 00:30:35.079 Um I think it was kind of like the witch trials where they were kind of sporadically everywhere. 00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:35.879 Okay. 00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:39.240 I mean, I would imagine just given um okay. 00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:45.079 So it says there

are no exact historical record of children were killed because they were accused of being changelings. 00:30:45.399 --> 00:30:47.719 Um yeah, it doesn't really say. 00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:50.439 We're just gonna hope that the number was low. 00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:51.480 Maybe. 00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:57.480 I mean, yeah, I mean, I think that like, okay, well, here let's be on a positive note. 00:30:57.719 --> 00:31:02.359 You on witch trials, you kind of always know like how many people were killed because of witch trials. 00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:06.279 So maybe it was a lower amount because we don't have a number because of the children. 00:31:06.359 --> 00:31:07.079 I don't know. 00:31:07.399 --> 00:31:08.839 Oh gosh, I don't know. 00:31:09.079 --> 00:31:14.439 Because the thing with like the witch trials, most of them were at least young women or adults, right? 00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:18.199 Like, yeah, it's so much easier, I feel like. 00:31:18.439 --> 00:31:20.359 Like that you can't hide as much, right? 00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:35.799 If you're getting rid of somebody who's who's lived for a relatively long time rather than a child, there's probably so many cases of uh that people never even realized because they you know, God only knows how early in age they were. 00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:39.319 That was kind of like that movie that I could not find. 00:31:39.399 --> 00:31:43.799 But what I vaguely remember of a child that I was probably like nine or ten, I should never watch this. 00:31:43.959 --> 00:31:51.319 It was they locked him in, I think, the attic because he did have some sort of disability, and no one even knew that he was there. 00:31:51.399 --> 00:31:53.480 Like they didn't know that they had this child. 00:31:53.639 --> 00:31:56.119 And the kid was older, I think he was like nine or ten. 00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:56.599 Yeah. 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:07.719 But then weird stuff started happening, and I don't quite remember like what the ordeal was, but I just remember being terrified of wheelchairs for the longest time because the wheelchair would like come at the mom by itself, and it was really scary. 00:32:07.879 --> 00:32:09.719 But anyway, it is kind of like that. 00:32:09.959 --> 00:32:10.359 What? 00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:18.039 So that just the way you explained that movie reminded me of my newest show that I'm addicted to. 00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:22.119 Have you been watching the the new remake of Carrie? 00:32:22.439 --> 00:32:23.559 It's a mini series. 00:32:23.879 --> 00:32:24.759 I heard it was pretty good. 00:32:24.919 --> 00:32:30.119 Well, it's it's um Flanagan, so I know it's the guy who did the Hill House and all that. 00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:33.639 And at first I'm like, oh my god, do we really need to like remake Carrie? 00:32:33.879 --> 00:32:36.839 Because his stuff is usually but isn't it more modern tape? 00:32:37.399 --> 00:32:43.240 It is, it is so it's like set, you know, not in like the 70s or 80s, but I think the

original one was the 80s, right? 00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:44.359 With Sissy's basic. 00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:44.759 I don't know. 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:47.719 You know, there's smartphones in schools, yeah. 00:32:48.199 --> 00:32:51.959 And it's I I'm only on the third episode, I think. 00:32:52.119 --> 00:33:04.199 But it's it's done well, it's um less creepy than some of his other stuff, but it's also carry, especially if you're gonna make it into a miniseries, it's a slow burn, but the cast has been amazing so far. 00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:05.000 I really like it. 00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:11.240 I need to watch Carrie because I know I've seen blips of it when I was really young, but I don't You've never seen it. 00:33:11.399 --> 00:33:16.279 Like I have, but I don't know, I don't know if I've ever sat down and fully watched it. 00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:19.959 Oh god, it's one of my favorite horror movies of all time. 00:33:20.199 --> 00:33:27.000 And I think there was one other remake, just the the one with Sissy Spacich, the original, is the best. 00:33:27.159 --> 00:33:29.079 Well, yeah, you don't can only watch the original. 00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:39.079 But anyway, so that was just like a random it went down so many different ways, and I started doing research and I was starting taking notes and stuff, and then I was like, I was too far down to stop. 00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:42.119 But I was like, this is not at all what I thought I was getting into. 00:33:42.359 --> 00:33:52.519 Yeah, but I don't think you need to stop because now you're also having a chance to like while we don't know any of the names or the numbers or anything, but remember these young kids who are a victim of something so horrible. 00:33:52.759 --> 00:34:02.599 I know that's kind of when I was like, no, let's keep doing this because then also I think there are just so many different mental health things and disabilities that and people are just not kind still. 00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:07.559 And it's so I think I said it like 10 minutes ago, people are the worst, and I'm gonna stand by that. 00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:12.039 They really are like we are the worst, and I just Okay. 00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:21.719 So, for everyone listening, you have to figure out instead of our normal asks, find one act of kindness you can do for somebody today or tomorrow, depending on when you listen to this. 00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.320 If it's too late, you get a pass. 00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:25.880 Well, you can just when you hear this, just do it. 00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:26.840 Yeah, okay. 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:28.760 Just do it, just do it. 00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:31.400 Yeah, that's that that's our moral of the story. 00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:33.719 Just do it, but not infanticide, please. 00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:35.079 What emoji? 00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:38.920 I think the little fairy emoji we should use. 00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:41.400 Let's keep my face from getting blurry again. 00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:43.239 But we're not blaming the fairies. 00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:50.599 I think after I after we're I think they're good at with us now because Zach's not blurry anymore and they realized that we weren't talking bad about them. 00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:51.960 We were sticking up for them. 00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:52.519 Yeah. 00:34:52.759 --> 00:34:55.079 We're saying that you were wrongly accused. 00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:56.039 Yeah, they were. 00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:57.000 That was crazy. 00:34:57.239 --> 00:34:59.400 I would love to hear you play the fiddle. 00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:01.319 I'm sure that's that's what did it. 00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:01.880 Okay. 00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:07.960 Uh, what else do these fine folks need to do before we close the shop up and lock it down for the day? 00:35:08.279 --> 00:35:11.480 Well, I do have fairy Reddit stories. 00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:22.279 So if you are Patreon or you want to come on over via Patreon, we are gonna do some fairy Reddit stories that are actually about fairies and not changelings. 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:23.639 I think. 00:35:23.799 --> 00:35:24.519 I don't know. 00:35:24.759 --> 00:35:25.719 We'll find out. 00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:26.679 We'll find out. 00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:29.400 But other than that, um, thanks for being here. 00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:32.599 We love you, we appreciate you, and creep a real, my little oddballs. 00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:33.400 Goodbye.