Anime that Influenced the Matrix: Akira vs. Ghost in the Shell의 전체 녹취록

movie in the theater, and we covered that. 00:02:08.159 --> 00:02:09.199 That was amazing. 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:10.960 That was really good. 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:15.840 One of my best theater experiences, period, not just for anime, but of your life. 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:16.319 Yeah. 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:16.800 Really? 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:17.360 Legitimately. 00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:18.240 Oh my goodness. 00:02:18.479 --> 00:02:19.680 It was very enjoyable. 00:02:19.919 --> 00:02:20.319 Yeah. 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:23.919 Yeah, one of these days we'll we'll catch up and watch the series together. 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:25.039 There's a oh my god. 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:26.639 Yeah, Attack on Titan, the series. 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:30.639 No, I can I can only do no no series is great though. 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:34.560 Uh it was in college when I I was in college when the series came out. 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:44.479 I hadn't read the manga, so it's like watching that from the beginning to um you know to now where it's ended and everything was um quite the journey. 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:45.840 I bet. 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:52.639 Were the manga and anime released somewhat concurrently, or like did one come out first and then they'd immediately adapted? 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:54.240 Like how did that that work? 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:56.560 Manga definitely came out first. 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:04.319 And with how long the production took for the anime, I know that uh the manga was definitely finished before the anime. 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:19.120 I don't know how long they waited before it got an adaptation, but it definitely um the anime itself definitely took like quite a few years to conclude, being that it only just a few years ago got an ending. 00:03:19.439 --> 00:03:21.759 So it's definitely been a while though. 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:22.879 But yeah. 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:24.560 Classic. 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:29.280 Well, nerd adders, in case you haven't already noticed, though, Will is not with us tonight. 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:31.199 He's he's had a rough, rough week. 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:36.400 A lot of some family emergencies and just a lot of a lot of stuff going on in his life this week. 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:38.240 So he's he's taking the night off. 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:46.159 Uh, I don't know if he'll pop in at some point, but as far as covering and and researching a told May Man, you can take a break. 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:46.960 It's okay. 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:51.599 Uh, but fortunately, we already had Elijah scheduled to come on as a ghost. 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:53.759 He was originally as a ghost, as a guest. 00:03:54.159 --> 00:03:55.759 I I was I was intrigued. 00:03:55.840 --> 00:03:56.479 What does this mean? 00:03:56.719 --> 00:04:00.639 As a guest, uh um to cover Akira. 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:06.960 And when Will just threw life, life happens, uh, had to drop out. 00:04:07.120 --> 00:04:10.159 So I'm actually switched over and I'm covering what Will was gonna cover. 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:13.360 So kind of just played uh musical chairs there for a minute. 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:14.719 Yeah. 00:04:15.039 --> 00:04:17.600 Hey, nothing wrong with a little bit of improv, you know? 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:19.759 Hey, shout out to Will though. 00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:21.439 I'll catch him on the next one. 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:27.360 I feel I feel so I have my notes ready, my laptop right here. 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:28.639 I got all the stuff. 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:29.279 Yeah. 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:30.000 Awesome. 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:31.199 I I got a few myself. 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:35.839 Not uh I don't feel I never feel like I have enough, but that's very accurate. 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:36.240 Yeah. 00:04:36.399 --> 00:04:36.560 Yeah. 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:37.040 Yeah. 00:04:37.279 --> 00:04:42.079 Well, I'm ready to be cynical and with a hint of judgment. 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:45.040 So I think we should get rolling, don't you think, babe? 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:55.920 Well, uh, I was gonna take just a just a few minutes here to uh give Elijah a chance to talk about before we jump into the main body, just to talk a little bit about what's going on with your career since we last talked. 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:57.519 I think it's been about two years. 00:04:57.680 --> 00:05:00.000 I know you and I have seen each other in person since then. 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:00.399 Yeah. 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:05.279 Our listeners have not heard what's going on in your art life and and things like that. 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:11.199 So I was curious uh if you want to just share a little bit about what's been going on there for the last year or two. 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:12.319 Oh yeah. 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:15.120 Um I don't know, a little bit and a lot. 00:05:15.279 --> 00:05:33.360 Um, you know, there's been like some major life changes this year, and accompanying those, um I've had like a lot more time to like, I guess I would say like indulge like my creative career and lifestyle. 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:40.959 Um so you know, the first half this year I was kind of in a slump, but come August, you know, I was feeling a lot like myself again. 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:48.800 I was hanging out with friends, and you know, since then I've been, you know, I've done some gallery shows. 00:05:49.040 --> 00:05:52.319 I think the last time we talked was at the Fatal Four-way show. 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:54.240 That was uh mean. 00:05:54.720 --> 00:06:04.000 Um my boy PizzaGo88, Asylum Sally from Winston, my boy Alex Bigoroa, and my friend Deshaun Burnett. 00:06:04.560 --> 00:06:08.240 Since then, uh had work in a few like pop-up shows. 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:10.240 I've been doing more commissions lately. 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:13.600 Logos, lots of logos, album cover illustrations. 00:06:13.759 --> 00:06:18.480 Yeah, my friend Scotty,

aka Sonoff the Maker, and Veteran I. 00:06:18.959 --> 00:06:24.639 But you're I'm impressed with you remembering people's handle name. 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:27.759 Like I can't I can I I have a hard time just remember people's names. 00:06:27.839 --> 00:06:30.000 Like they're last no, that's not happening. 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:31.360 So I'm impressed. 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:32.480 But to continue. 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:40.560 Oh yeah, and uh because when you meet people, you know, it's like I get used you nowadays, it's like you'll probably hear someone's artist name before their real name. 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:44.399 You know, I kinda I get it all dialed in. 00:06:44.560 --> 00:07:16.480 But yeah, so just the album cover for them, and it's actually the second one I've done for their collaborative project, MC Ten, which is somewhat of a dystopian theme project following an Android MC, who is basically uh basically, you know, navigating a world using using music to navigate a world where things are dystopian, AI's taking up where creativity has been stifled in some ways, and you know, trying to make heads and tails of Bodoa. 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:22.879 And they're actually having a release party on the 22nd, and I'll be me and Alex will be live painting there. 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:24.560 That'll be at the Flatiron Greens. 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:28.399 Um Yeah. 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:33.920 But me and um, so they'll be doing that on the 23rd. 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:38.000 The 22nd, I'll be at an album release party for my friend CIA. 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:40.560 He's a rapper from Waysboro, North Carolina. 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:48.399 I designed the um the poster, the flyer for his show, and a couple other um items for the rollout for that. 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:53.439 And now I'm kind of going backwards, and me and my friend Pizzago88. 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:54.959 There it is again. 00:07:55.439 --> 00:08:03.839 We actually did a collaborative live painting event at Sew Relief Records in Greensboro this um past um past month. 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:07.759 So it was um it's been like a lot going on. 00:08:07.920 --> 00:08:16.480 Um, been helping friends with projects, working on mural stuff, um, helped some friends hang art shows of their own. 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:23.920 Um, my friend Makai, he has an art show at the compound in Western Salem right now, his first solo show. 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:27.199 So me and some of the homies helped him hang that. 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:28.399 So that's pretty cool. 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:32.879 Um it's just a lot like you know, getting back into like the creative ecosystem. 00:08:32.960 --> 00:08:35.919 It's been a couple of friends getting out there. 00:08:36.080 --> 00:08:39.360 Um so everything's been pretty cool lately, I'll say. 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:41.440 Like I feel like I have a good upward momentum. 00:08:41.600 --> 00:08:56.559 I'm just I think I'm at a point where I have to make

decisions about other things I need to shift in order to not just continue this momentum, but figure out how I want to maintain it moving forward and figuring out what I need to do that aligns with that. 00:08:56.799 --> 00:08:59.919 But yeah, overall I'd say I'm in a great place. 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:02.639 Yeah, so I'm I don't know, I'm very happy with that. 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:05.519 Like, I'm probably gonna go paint after this too. 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:12.879 Wow a little bit with the homie, and then I guess, you know, get ready for work tomorrow. 00:09:13.200 --> 00:09:15.840 Are you saying pizza pizza dough 88? 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:16.559 Is that what you said? 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:17.679 Oh, pizza goat. 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:18.399 Pizza goat. 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:19.919 Pizza My Bad. 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:21.200 My bad. 00:09:21.279 --> 00:09:23.360 Yeah, met Mr. 00:09:23.519 --> 00:09:24.000 Pizza Goat. 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:24.399 Briefly. 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:25.360 That's so funny. 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:26.159 I love that. 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:27.200 I love that. 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:28.399 Well, cool. 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:31.840 So you know, it's uh pretty cool. 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:37.519 Yeah, and there's something else special that he's working on that we're gonna tell you all about later in the episode. 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:38.799 So stay tuned for that. 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:45.759 Right before our closing, we're gonna give you a special sneak peek of something we're excited about that Elijah's working on. 00:09:45.919 --> 00:09:47.519 So, yeah, stay tuned for that. 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:49.519 Coming later in the episode. 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:56.320 Nerdhatters, we have a very important question to ask you. 00:09:56.639 --> 00:09:58.080 What's in your nerd hat? 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00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:26.879 All right. 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:34.799 Well, this week it is a battle of two animes that influenced the Matrix trilogy. 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:35.279 What? 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:35.840 Sorry. 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:36.399 Yeah. 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:42.000 The official title of our topic is There is No Spoon. 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:44.080 That's what that means. 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:44.639 Yeah. 00:11:44.879 --> 00:11:45.200 Okay. 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:47.360 That's kind of obscure. 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:50.799 I don't know if people will connect that. 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:52.399 You should change it right now. 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:59.519 It's both a reference to the well, I mean it's There Is No Spoon, uh, anime, 90s anime that well, technically, yeah. 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:01.759 Anime that influenced the Matrix, basically. 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:02.320 Okay. 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:06.240 So yeah, so it's uh about two anime films. 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:15.679 One is 1989's Akira, and the other is 1995's Ghost in the Shell, both of which were based on mangas. 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:22.000 So we'll probably bounce a little bit back and forth, talk a little bit about the manga, but primarily we're gonna focus on the films. 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:27.679 And uh Elijah, as our guest, has elected to go second, so I'm up first. 00:12:29.440 --> 00:12:32.080 So I'm covering Ghost in the Shell. 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:36.720 All right, I'll set my timer here, I think at 10 minutes. 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:42.240 Okay, here we go. 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:56.080 So science fiction at its best offers us humans opportunities to explore both our hopes and our fears about the future. 00:12:56.960 --> 00:13:09.840 Ghost in the Shell, a 1995 anime film directed by Momoro Oshi, dives into an ocean of fears about the proliferation of computer technology, digital information, and artificial intelligence. 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:18.960 So this film was first conceived as a manga in the late 1980s. 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:22.879 And I know I'm gonna get the gentleman's name wrong that wrote it. 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:26.080 My phone is being stubborn on me. 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:37.679 But uh so it came in the late 1980s, and this is at a time when obviously, you know, both the internet and certainly artificial intelligence were in their infancy. 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:40.320 Uh AI, you might even say, was just a fetus. 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:41.440 Wasn't even born yet.

00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:43.360 Maybe the good old days. 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:46.879 One could say, but the in and the internet was my right, Elijah? 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:48.720 My right just been born. 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:55.039 Your your average person, like my dad, I think, was already on it in the late 80s, but there's not a whole lot you could do. 00:13:55.120 --> 00:14:03.360 I think maybe you could send an email, send some text back and forth, but there wasn't much that you could do yet with with the internet. 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:15.919 And even around the mid-90s when Ghost in the Shell, the film, was released, still obviously a lot had happened in just those six years, as is often the case with computer technology. 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:18.080 Still, you got like, what at that point? 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:21.039 Windows 95 was like the big release that year, right? 00:14:21.120 --> 00:14:30.639 And you've got uh 486 and like Pentium ones and computers that are so much slower even than the cell phone I've got now back then. 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:50.720 So that's the world this speculative fiction was was born out of or into, maybe both and and the author of the manga I don't know how deeply he got into the themes in the early parts of the series. 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:53.919 I was able to read a little bit, I read a little bit of the sample of the manga. 00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:56.240 Um, so I'm not an expert in the manga. 00:14:56.320 --> 00:15:03.759 I'm gonna focus primarily on the film, which is what we're covering, you know, Akira the film versus Ghost in the Shell film. 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:13.360 So the film was directed by Momoro Oshi, as I mentioned, and was also produced by Kenji Kamiyama in 1995. 00:15:14.240 --> 00:15:28.320 And it it's kind of I've heard it described as a contemplative kind of mood piece disguised as a police procedural. 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:42.159 So you have some political intrigue, some mystery, there's some computer hacking going on, there's some murder going on, so there, you know, there's assassinations going on. 00:15:42.799 --> 00:15:43.679 Got me at murder. 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:44.559 Sorry. 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:48.399 Internal governmental conflict between different sections of the government. 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:56.080 So you have section nine, which is headed up by the main character's boss. 00:15:57.440 --> 00:15:59.440 I'm gonna get his name wrong, I know. 00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:01.120 So let me make sure. 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:04.799 As with Japanese, so Daisuke Aramaki. 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:18.159 So he is the head of section nine, and by the time this film starts, which is the film I did get enough of a feel for the backstory that the film does jump in later in the manga series. 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:30.879 It's not trying to get you in at the beginning of the manga series because at the beginning, the primary character, Motoko Kusanagi, is not yet a part of Section

9. 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:32.799 She has her own independent unit. 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:39.759 And uh, I've been watching a little bit of the Ghost in the Shell Arise series, and you see a little bit more of the backstory. 00:16:39.840 --> 00:16:42.320 It's a prequel to the film Ghost in the Shell. 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:47.679 So it dives a bit more into how Motoko and her team are formed. 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:59.759 But by the time the film starts, she already has her team and they're already connected to Section 9, which is internal, it's a security, it's like national security agency, basically in futuristic Japan. 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:02.240 This is supposedly taking place in 2029. 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:06.000 So the manga, basically 40 years after the manga was written. 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:30.480 So he's the writer is is looking 40 years into the future and speculating about how the web and the internet may have affected people by that point, and how artificial intelligence, as well as cybernetics and robotics, how those have affected culture and how they affect the way humans view themselves. 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:37.680 So our main character, Motoko Kusanagi, is almost entirely a cybernetic being. 00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:38.240 What? 00:17:38.480 --> 00:17:39.279 Sorry, keep going. 00:17:39.440 --> 00:17:45.839 So just a little bit, we find out just a little bit of her brain, and even that is is a little bit in doubt at times, even from her. 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:49.680 She wonders sometimes whether she's completely cybernetic. 00:17:49.920 --> 00:18:01.200 But Batu, you know, her kind of her right-hand man on her team, he mentions that hey, there's still part of your brain is is still biological. 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:06.000 Uh and we find out, and this is a perhaps a bit of a spoiler warning for the film. 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:12.079 So fair warning, if you haven't watched the Ghost in the Shell Arise series yet, I'm gonna spoil something for you. 00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:15.680 Unless you've already read the manga, in which case I'm probably not spoiling anything. 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:26.400 Either way, um, we do find out that Multico was made cybernetic basically from the womb. 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:31.440 She was in the womb when her mother was attacked and killed. 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:46.240 But there were people there on site, and you know, Multico as a human child in development in the womb, not yet ready to be born, um, probably pretty far along in development, but not not ready to be born just yet. 00:18:46.400 --> 00:18:48.720 But her mother dies, and she is gonna die as well. 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:57.680 But there was someone there who had the technology to save her brain, so they took either all or a part of her brain and then gave her a cybernetic body. 00:18:57.759 --> 00:19:03.119 So basically, Motuko, aside from her time in the womb, has never known a physical body. 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:12.319 It's always she's always had a well, I mean physical in in that a um a biological body, I guess is a better way to putting it, because she has a physical body, but it is completely cybernetic. 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:25.200 Uh, it looks human on the outside, but she has like compared to humans, super strength and speed, and there's intelligence, and then all of the characters in this have the ability to jack in to the internet. 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:28.559 So this is something that the Matrix definitely borrowed. 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:38.000 They have where it's a little different because in the Matrix you have this one big jack and this massive needle, which I don't know how it actually goes in there without killing the person every time. 00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:40.160 They always wanted to feel like in the matrix. 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:42.319 That thing is so long, they stick it in the person's heads. 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:45.359 Whereas in the Matrix, they adapted it to just have one jack. 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:53.519 In this one, they have four jacks, and so people can connect to each other, uh, either with or without consent. 00:19:53.759 --> 00:19:59.920 In the course of her police duties, you see multiple sometimes jack into a criminal that she's arresting. 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:03.839 In the series, you see her get infected with some viruses as a result of that. 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:05.119 So it's not always a good idea. 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:11.279 You can and the metaphor connect to each other over the the neck, so to speak. 00:20:11.599 --> 00:20:12.400 They can communicate. 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:13.920 It's almost telepathic. 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:28.559 Like the people that are also cybernetic, that have these cybernetic brains that have linked to one another, they allow each other into something called the lobby of their brain, or they can hang out in one person's lobby somehow and all communicate with each other. 00:20:28.799 --> 00:20:50.559 And they show that both in a little bit in the film and also in the TV series, by they show them like being transported into like either they're like floating in water, and you see them thinking or communicating, or they're kind of standing in this like ethereal space representative of them communicating in a way that's almost telepathic, but it's technological, they're able to communicate, you know, through a network. 00:20:50.799 --> 00:21:04.559 And so that obviously when they're in combat and things like that, that gives them an advantage, certainly over biological entities, but so many other people are already cybernetic at this point that you're gonna run into some other cybernetic beings. 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:07.920 It's pretty likely in the case of their fighting. 00:21:08.559 --> 00:21:20.160 But this film just really explores, in particular through Motico's story, what it's like to have that intermingling and to not be sure what it is to be a person. 00:21:20.319 -->

00:21:21.519 What does it mean to be a person? 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:24.640 You know, what does it mean to be human in a sense? 00:21:24.960 --> 00:21:33.200 You know, she's barely human, but but more of like personhood and what is the future of AI and and humans. 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:39.359 And and you could either take this as a fear or hope, or maybe a bit of both. 00:21:39.599 --> 00:21:44.400 But towards the end, and this is definitely a spoiler, but Laura likes to be spoiled. 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:46.960 No, but with this, yes. 00:21:47.359 --> 00:21:48.000 I guess yes. 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:48.720 Keep going. 00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:58.079 It gives a somewhat hopeful place in that Motoko actually merges with an AI at the end and becomes a new entity at the end of the film. 00:21:58.160 --> 00:22:01.440 There's this AI called the puppet master who's Been kind of behind the scenes. 00:22:01.519 --> 00:22:03.039 They think he's evil for a while. 00:22:03.119 --> 00:22:05.519 It turns out he's not exactly evil. 00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:08.400 And he's been trying to get a hold of Motiko this whole time. 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:10.400 And then he wants to merge with her. 00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:13.440 And then they're going to have offspring in the net. 00:22:13.839 --> 00:22:15.680 No, I don't like I don't. 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:17.440 I think that is uh legal. 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:18.079 Keep going. 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:18.960 I mean, don't keep going. 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:41.359 But that's where if there's any hope in this film, because it's a pretty dark vision of the future for the most part, you know, and obviously these are crime fighters, so they're dealing with the darkest elements of society in general, but it gives maybe a little bit of hope about the AI of like maybe there's some way that humans and technology can merge and become something better. 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:46.960 Um, that's you know, if there is a hopeful note that the film gives you, it would be that. 00:22:47.039 --> 00:22:49.359 But like I said, that could also be something that terrifies you. 00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:52.799 So it's a it's a mixed pack, but it's well made. 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:55.200 Um the hand-drawn animation is gorgeous. 00:22:55.359 --> 00:23:02.880 Um, they did do an updated version because it was originally a mixture of CGI and animation, but then they did an updated version with new CGI in 2009. 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:09.759 I actually prefer the original because the CGI matches better, okay, um, to be honest, with the animation. 00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:20.480 Um, once they got to the series, which was much more recent, they did a really good job of finally, you know, of merging CGI and the hand-drawn animation in that one, so it looked almost seamless. 00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:23.759 But I don't recommend watching the 2009 uh reboot. 00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:27.440 It's not terrible or anything, but it's just it takes me out of it a little bit. 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:30.960 It's not quite as good, in my opinion, as the original 95 version. 00:23:31.119 --> 00:23:39.440 So if you get a chance, uh watch both the Japanese audio and with the English audio if you can find the time to do both. 00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:43.519 Um so I went a little past my time, but that that's it. 00:23:43.599 --> 00:23:45.200 That's uh Ghost in the Shell. 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:48.000 Hey, all right, all right. 00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:49.359 Very simple. 00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:54.079 Elijah, are you ready? 00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:56.000 Are are you are you? 00:23:56.240 --> 00:24:02.640 Are you are you yes, yes, I see a little timer. 00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:17.119 All right, so this film is quite possibly one of the most important things to happen in anime. 00:24:17.519 --> 00:24:19.200 Okay, okay, okay. 00:24:20.079 --> 00:24:32.240 And I'm going to do my best to expound on that while encouraging everybody watching to watch this anime, this movie, which is entitled Akira. 00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:38.160 So just a little background on the story. 00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:49.119 Japan has a very, very I'll say Japan has a very, very good track record of telling stories based around a certain thing. 00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:49.920 They do. 00:24:50.079 --> 00:24:50.640 You're not right. 00:24:51.039 --> 00:25:07.920 And oftentimes where storytelling in the West often is based around trying to prevent large-scale disasters or destruction, a lot of Japanese media revolves around building, rebuilding in the aftermath. 00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:11.279 And Akira is no different. 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:41.759 So after a widespread explosion that eradicated Tokyo, that has since been covered up by government entities that do not want the public to understand the nature of that disaster, we find a city called Neo-Tokyo where the residents are doing what they can to maintain a regular sense of, you know, humanity, a regular sense of daily living. 00:25:42.240 --> 00:25:57.839 And in the midst of all this, we have bike gangs, government conspiracies, we have dystopia, we have psychic powers, and all this set on a cyberpunk sci-fi backdrop. 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:15.039 So this movie was created in the late 80s, 88 was the release date, and adapted from Amanda by Kauchi Hiro Otomo that was created in 1982. 00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:37.599 So in this dystopian sci-fi world that is rebuilding from the brink of absolute destruction, we follow two main characters, Kanada and Tetsuo, orphan kids who grew up protecting each other on the streets and eventually formed a bite gang called the Pills. 00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:38.880 The what? 00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:40.400 The Pills. 00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:41.680 The Pills. 00:26:42.720 --> 00:27:08.240 So while navigating this rough, gritty terrain, one night, in the midst of an altercation with a rival bike gang, Tetsuo, the younger of the two, gets into a bike accident where he happens to

collide with not only government officials, but a child possessing psychic powers. 00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:16.799 This single incident sets off a chain of events that could possibly decide the future or destruction of Neo Tokyo again. 00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:27.839 Techu awakens to psychic powers amidst this accident and is promptly captured and detained by government agents. 00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:34.000 And his friends are tasked with trying to figure out what happened and how to get him back. 00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:47.920 So this movie aesthetically has set the stage for what we see now being very popular. 00:27:48.240 --> 00:28:03.519 A lot of um cyberpunk, sci-fi, dystopia, you know, things like The Matrix, things like Psychopaths, even things like Ghosts in the Shell, all of which Akira predates have been influenced by this particular look. 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:16.799 The city's gritty, it's run down, but there's still bright lights, and everything that happens seems to be a result or a reaction of the state of living they're in. 00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:28.079 There's lots of riots, lots of protests, crime, and it's very much a reflection of the human condition when pushed to the brink. 00:28:28.319 --> 00:28:41.359 So, what makes this movie a visual masterpiece doesn't just have to do with the themes that they pioneered, but it also has to do with the time it was made. 00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:49.599 In the 80s, Japan was facing a very significant upturn in economic prosperity since World War II. 00:28:50.079 --> 00:29:00.799 And with anime as an industry being a little more than two decades old, there was a lot of resources that could be poured in. 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:16.640 And with old animators and new animators working together, there was a very I'd say there was a very, very potent, um there were very potent conditions for them to thrive. 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:31.759 And with anime not having a defined audience or even look at the time, there was nothing holding them back from being able to create something that could appeal to everybody because they weren't trying to appeal to ninja demographics. 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:52.480 So when you watch Shakira from the bikes to the widespread disasters to the lights in the city, to even people walking on the street, this anime has a certain fluidity that is I would say almost non-existent in anime of the modern era, even the last decade. 00:29:52.799 --> 00:30:02.079 So hand-drawn animation on a combination of ones and twos, potentially 12 and 24 frames per second. 00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:11.839 When you watch Akira compared to any anime you've seen before, you're gonna notice a water-like fluidity to the movement that you see. 00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:14.799 And it's something that I find to be unmatched. 00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:18.960 I believe that frame rate is even more than Studio Ghibli fails. 00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:33.759 So Akira as a piece of animated art is, you know, it's one of the

most beautiful films that you'll see for that reason. 00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:47.359 The attention to detail, you know, the level of quality that goes into each scene, into each frame, it is definitely um a marvel to behold and something that stands up amongst, I'd say, any anime of this time. 00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:50.240 Fighting work. 00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:52.240 Yeah, definitely. 00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:54.880 They're just not animating like this anymore. 00:30:55.119 --> 00:31:05.680 And when you understand the conditions of like animators in Japan, you kind of understand why, but you know, that also speaks to, you know, the time period that this movie was made. 00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:15.279 It was the right time for something to be created that could possibly define genres and the nature of animation for years to come. 00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:32.079 But you know, getting back to the the meat of the story, when Tetsuo is no longer able to control his psychic powers, he threatens the livelihoods of everyone and everything around him. 00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:45.519 From fights with the military to even turning on his own friends, he stands in a position where his existence alone could possibly cause the undoing of Neo-Tokio. 00:31:46.400 --> 00:32:01.680 So while Tedsu's in the midst of trying to search for answers to the psychic powers that he's experiencing, and you know, everything that comes as a result of that, his best friend Kanada is attempting to stop him and save the city. 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:15.599 So the story, you know, it's a classic, two friends that grew up together protecting each other that are now at odds when something significant event happens that drives them apart. 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:30.079 And as viewers, we get to see what it takes for or if Kanada has what it takes to essentially stop his little brother or his best friend from tearing himself apart along with everything else. 00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:52.240 So this movie is definitely one that I think deserves more than a couple nods just for being one that pioneers this genre of like dystopian, sci-fi, cyberpunk backdrops, and also the themes of resilience in the face of destruction. 00:32:53.039 --> 00:33:23.440 Because this series, I believe there's at least three significant events where large-scale destruction claims the city and everything in it as a victim, and watching characters continue to strive and push and find a sense of normalcy in that is very indicative of the themes of a lot of um Japanese media, things like Godzilla, that were based off, you know, the real widespread destruction that they face. 00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:49.519 So I think just as much as it's um pioneering in um animation as an industry, I think it's also equally good at um giving you a very vivid, visceral, even grotesque look at um the reality of people bouncing back and recovering from very, very significant traumatic events. 00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:55.920 And yeah, that that's my time. 00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:59.519 So I believe yeah, I believe that's it. 00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:07.599 I got a lot of details and things like that, but I think I've pretty much got to the point of everything. 00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:14.639 Okay, man. 00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:18.239 I have can I do this any way I want? 00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:18.960 Yeah. 00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:20.880 Lija, what do you mean? 00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:22.239 What do you what do you mean? 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:26.960 What what do you mean when you say 12 frames per second? 00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:29.599 Can you like the way it was animated? 00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:32.079 Can you talk what does say more? 00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:34.719 So why was it fluid? 00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:36.239 Why was it great? 00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:44.320 So what made it good is basically this number of frames isn't normal. 00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:44.880 Yeah. 00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:46.719 But normally it's a lot less. 00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:48.800 Like twelve, ten plus ten. 00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:49.440 Yes. 00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:51.119 So twelve to twenty-four. 00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:58.079 So every second Yeah, so you know, they're doing this animation hand-drawn, which is also like a lost art form. 00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:12.320 So essentially, when they're creating this film, with that a higher above-average number of frame counts, when you watch the animation back, it's um almost seamless. 00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:23.119 Less smearing, less like in between things that you normally see, where you might have like a few detailed drawings here and then they kind of, you know, smear it together to get the idea. 00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:23.920 Sure. 00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:37.519 So, you know, when you watch Akira, you can pause and freeze-frame on just about any scene, and the level of quality you're gonna see in the drawings is something that's a far crowd from most animation today. 00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:38.079 Woo! 00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:48.079 So just that you know, just that number, that sheer volume of frames gives it just it's like water when you watch it. 00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:49.679 No, that's great. 00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:50.880 Babe, have you seen it? 00:35:51.119 --> 00:36:05.199 I actually watched it well, I had started it some time back and didn't finish it, and then in preparation for this week, because originally I was just gonna kind of be the host and Will and Will was gonna be covering um I watched both films. 00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:09.760 I watched Acura first, so I saw it all the way through for the first time just this past week. 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:13.199 What was it fluid? 00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:14.719 Was it like water, babe? 00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:15.840 Was it? 00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:24.800 I don't know that I I'm I'm not an artist, so I don't know that I caught that, but I could definitely tell that the animation was just Okay. 00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:25.840 Okay.

00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:28.159 Yeah, just yeah, very well done. 00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:34.239 And I think not I mean, obviously CGI was in this nascency back then, so I don't think they used any CGI. 00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:36.320 I think it was all all hand-drawn. 00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:38.559 And this movie is insane. 00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:40.719 I think it's close to two and a half hours long. 00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:42.079 That's insane. 00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:46.320 Like you consider that too, like how many drawings they had to do. 00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:49.440 Yeah, do you know how long it took to make? 00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:57.920 I don't know exactly how long it took, but I know the budget for this film was about ten billion. 00:36:58.239 --> 00:36:58.639 What? 00:36:59.440 --> 00:36:59.840 Yeah. 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:05.039 It it was put together by a conglomerate of media groups in Japan. 00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:10.960 I know Kodansha, um, Toho, who does Godzilla, were two of many. 00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:16.800 So they had like a you know, a powerhouse behind them to produce this. 00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:20.239 That amount back in the 80s? 00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:21.039 Yeah. 00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:22.639 That's crazy talk. 00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:23.360 Wow. 00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:26.320 Japan had a lot of disposable income then. 00:37:26.559 --> 00:37:27.039 Why? 00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:32.960 How from well the US was buying a lot of uh Hondas and Toyotas, that was one reason. 00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:36.880 But like and Nissans too. 00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:39.679 Okay, alright. 00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:40.400 Okay. 00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:48.559 Can you um tell me the I'm sorry, I was trying to follow along with the the plot line. 00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:50.559 Can you tell me the people's names again? 00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:54.239 Like the the main character is side buddies? 00:37:54.559 --> 00:38:00.079 Oh yeah, Kaneda and Tetsuo are the two main characters that you follow. 00:38:00.239 --> 00:38:10.159 And a lot of the movie is going to revolve around their friendship dynamic with Kaneda being like the older brother. 00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:28.480 Um he's brass, he's very wild in his nature, and fits into the he fits into the nature of the environment where Tetsuo is a little more unsure of himself, a little more insecure, and often finds himself following in Tetsuo's shadow. 00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:44.079 I mean, in Kanada's shadow, and once he awakes to his psychic abilities, some of his um his how do you say, like his insecurities and his inadequacies are kind of um what's the word? 00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:48.320 Um yes, by you know, with his psychic powers. 00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:55.199 So he starts acting on feelings of inferiority and you know, feeling like he finally has a chance to be the person he wants to be. 00:38:55.280 --> 00:39:00.719 And the way he lashes out with those powers, you know, he's wreaking havoc everywhere. 00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:03.280 Sounds like a little turd. 00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:10.400 Is there is there character growth with either of the characters as the movie progresses? 00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:19.519 So as the movie progresses, I would say that character growth like good or bad. 00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:23.280 I would say there is character growth. 00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:27.840 I would say it's more circumstantial with the situations they're put in. 00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:40.800 But it's really more I think character growth is more defined by how they're adapting to consistently escalating situations and you know, looking at basically an insurmountable disaster on the way. 00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:50.159 So with Kaneda, it's you know, doing whatever he can to stop Tetsuo, despite the feelings of, you know, maybe wanting to protect his friend. 00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:57.519 And with Tetsuo, it's more so a fight with himself, leading up to imminent self-destruction. 00:39:58.960 --> 00:39:59.840 So yeah. 00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:06.719 Yeah, so so um lots of growth based on um adaptation. 00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:07.119 Okay. 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:08.239 All right. 00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:09.519 Thank you. 00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:10.880 Um, babe. 00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:12.719 Richard Allen. 00:40:13.840 --> 00:40:18.320 Your whole merging um sequence was a little upsetting. 00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:20.800 Ghost in the shell. 00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:22.000 No. 00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:28.960 So who's the who's the douchebag that wants to overtake her? 00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:32.159 And is it a is it a is it a girl? 00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:33.039 Is it a lady? 00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:34.159 Is it a female? 00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:35.599 The main character? 00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:40.480 He so this is where it gets a little interesting. 00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:47.119 So the puppet master is The Puppet Master, that was portrayed as as a male. 00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:56.960 And some of the characters, you know, such as I think Armaki and and others just that are involved in trying to catch the puppet master as well as another government department. 00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:02.719 I can't remember the names of the officials in that department, but another government department is also trying to catch him. 00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:11.519 They believe that he originated in America, and they believe that the original puppet master was an American man. 00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:13.760 They they think it was uh an actual human. 00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:14.480 Ooh. 00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:26.800 And they attempt to capture this this intelligence that has grown and expanded into the net. 00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.480 They it they attempt to contain it in a cybernetic body. 00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:32.880 Wait, sorry, contain the puppet master? 00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:37.920 Yeah, so they try to contain the puppet master into a cybernetic, a single cybernetic body. 00:41:38.480 -->

00:41:39.519 Oh, so who is they? 00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:42.159 So it's another government agency, not Section 9. 00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:43.840 Uh it's either Section 6 or 4. 00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:47.679 I get them mixed up sometimes, but like it's sort of a competing government agency. 00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:53.920 They they're also concerned about diplomatic affairs and they have a little bit different priorities than Section 9. 00:41:54.159 --> 00:42:05.280 So there's some conflict between the departments, but uh this other department is attempting to contain the puppet master so that they can either use him or destroy him. 00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:06.000 Okay. 00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:08.719 What's the name of the character? 00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:09.360 The main character? 00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:10.239 Motico. 00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:10.719 Okay. 00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:15.920 Was there any characters in your movie that were relatable to you specifically? 00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:18.159 Hmm. 00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:26.000 This was where this is where the movie, in my estimation, suffers a little bit. 00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:28.239 It's actually too short, in my opinion. 00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:29.599 How long was it? 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:31.599 It was under 90 minutes. 00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:32.000 No. 00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:34.559 Which is unusual, I think, for maybe for an anime. 00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:37.760 Maybe maybe not, but it felt too short to me. 00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:43.599 Uh, I don't know if things were cut or left on the cutter room floor, but we needed a little more backstory. 00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:49.280 So just within the film itself, it was a little bit hard to relate to the characters. 00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:59.039 There's there's several exposition dumps in the film because they're trying to explain backstory quickly uh rather than showing it to you. 00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:02.719 Um and if you hadn't read the manga, then you wouldn't be aware of it. 00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:04.320 So they're Oh, it's pretty. 00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:05.840 There's a few of those. 00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:22.079 And um yeah, so I found it a little challenging to relate, but Motsuko probably, I mean, she is the main character, and she probably is I I'd say maybe the most relatable might be Batuu, actually, for me. 00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:35.199 I mean, obviously he's a man, I'm a man, I mean he's a cybernetic man, but I I liked Batu, I liked his his camaraderie with Mozuko, I liked their relationship, just very respectful professional relationship. 00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:42.559 You find out from the series that it wasn't always that way, they were very antagonistic and on almost on different sides of the government. 00:43:43.280 --> 00:43:54.639 But Mozuko I could relate to just her struggles for figuring out a sense of self and trying to connect with her personhood, I guess. 00:43:55.760 --> 00:44:01.840 That is I don't think that's the so that's one of

the Original cover arts. 00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:02.880 Oh my gosh. 00:44:03.039 --> 00:44:03.199 Yeah. 00:44:03.360 --> 00:44:04.559 There is I have a question. 00:44:04.880 --> 00:44:05.440 No, no, no. 00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:06.079 My question. 00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:07.199 My question time. 00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:10.159 Was the character over sexualized in any way? 00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:12.960 Yes, there was some gratuitous nity. 00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:14.960 It was really unnecessary, in my opinion. 00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:20.000 It Japanese men made it. 00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:28.880 And there is a tendency in in anime, as I've seen, that there is a sexualization of women that were any of the men sexualized? 00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:30.159 Over sexualized? 00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:32.960 No, not in the film. 00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:33.360 No. 00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:40.480 No, it's just mostly just motico and then one of the other cybernetic females. 00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:46.000 Like in my opinion, there was just some necessary unnecessary nudity. 00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:48.960 You know, in terms of it didn't serve the story, it didn't serve the plot. 00:44:49.280 --> 00:45:05.039 If he was trying if he was trying to say anything about just you know the the nakedness of the human condition or something, it would have made more sense to show both the male and female, but they only did the female and you know, perfect body because it's a cybernetic body. 00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:06.559 So yeah, there was some of that. 00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:09.119 I am so surprised. 00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:09.679 No. 00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:11.519 I am so mad right now. 00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:12.719 Uh Akira in Kira. 00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:13.760 I was getting ready. 00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:16.000 I was getting ready to be hopeful. 00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:17.039 I was. 00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:18.000 I was. 00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:19.920 Yeah, it is a little disappointing. 00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:22.880 In in most other ways, she's a very strong character. 00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:25.679 She's intelligent, obviously physically strong. 00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:27.440 Uh, she's the leader. 00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:31.199 She leads men, like she's in charge of a group of men, so she's over them. 00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:34.480 She's their supervisor in a sense, their commander. 00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:40.880 Um, so she's an impressive character in many other ways, but then you have the the unfortunate, you know. 00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:43.599 What you can't lead, be a woman and be ugly? 00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:45.599 Can't can't be play. 00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:50.559 You have to be you have to be a little little sex bitch. 00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:51.360 No. 00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:52.719 I don't like that. 00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:54.079 I don't like that one, but no. 00:45:54.320 --> 00:45:56.159 Yeah, and I had very pretty. 00:45:56.320 --> 00:45:58.800 Like the an I think the animation style

is pretty. 00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:02.480 Yeah, it the pal color palette is a little bit bleak, which I know you like. 00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:04.159 I love bleak. 00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:05.920 It's a little shh. 00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:07.760 It's a little faded. 00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:10.000 Elijah, I love bleak. 00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:11.920 Uh give me some bleak. 00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:14.239 Oh, it's so it's tasty. 00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:15.360 It's great. 00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:17.039 I'm so I'm so annoyed. 00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:19.760 Yeah, honestly, I was frustrated by that this time around. 00:46:19.840 --> 00:46:26.400 Like I had only seen the film maybe once before a long time ago, and I'd actually forgotten how much how much nudity was in it. 00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:29.119 I I knew there was some sexualization. 00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:32.000 I knew that was there definitely at the beginning of the film. 00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:35.679 But are they trying to distract from something they weren't good at? 00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:45.519 That's where I'm kind of like, were you are you trying to that's like a red herring, that's not it, but just distract from like maybe the animation isn't the best. 00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:47.840 So well she's she's mostly naked. 00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:50.800 See, see the boobs, do you see them? 00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:55.280 It's okay if it's not 12 frames, 24 frames per second. 00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:06.639 See that that no could be could be uh I don't know enough about the production of it to to say no, but it's uh the little bit of experience I have with anime. 00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:08.159 I mean, there's there's a mixture. 00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:11.199 I'm sure you could say better than I could allege it. 00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:20.559 There's a mixture there is definitely anime where there's like exagger maybe not exaggerated breasts, but it's always like curvy hips and like it's it's too symmetrical. 00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.639 Too symmetrical everywhere you go, yeah. 00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:34.239 Uh but then there's other anime unless you watch Fumato Alchemist, and then you get to see what's his name, Alexander Armstrong rip off his shirt for no reason, like every Bob Second. 00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:38.719 But that was made by a woman, so I guess it's you know, it bounces out. 00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:40.639 Was it supposed to be funny? 00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:41.599 Uh yeah. 00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:42.239 Okay. 00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:43.679 Okay. 00:47:44.480 --> 00:48:00.000 Well, um, now that I'm thoroughly disappointed, um I man, so like I was going to say, after we just had me be very angry, I was gonna say, oh, by the way, this is the part where I cast my judgment. 00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:06.719 In case you're new to the show, this is where I just tell you how just I'm gonna tell you how I feel. 00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:09.199 And how I feel is disappointed. 00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:16.559 I would was gonna say the I really liked your delivery, Elijah. 00:48:16.800 --> 00:48:25.280 That I was like, oh, well, damn, like humanity, what's it gonna be like when it when we're pushed to the brink, when we are pushed to the edge? 00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:26.639 Okay, this is what it looks like. 00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:27.920 I like the plot. 00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:29.199 I like your delivery. 00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:35.760 I'd like from what I've seen, I was looking up some because look, I'm I'm into colors. 00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:39.360 Like I need to know what it looks like, or I'm not gonna watch it. 00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:47.360 I would have loved your movie to be in Richard and the Ghost in the Shadow, or sorry, Ghost in the Shell color palette. 00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:52.239 So if they could somehow merge, but then you said it was animated, like and drawn by a hand. 00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:54.960 Yeah, drawn by a hand, completely crazy. 00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:55.840 That is crazy. 00:48:55.920 --> 00:49:00.239 And as someone who took four years of art, that's insane. 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:01.840 It's insane. 00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:17.119 So I but on the other hand, after I found out the main character was uh supposed to be a slut bag, I really like the um like everyone's animatronic and everyone's like has that thing stuck. 00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:17.519 What is it? 00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:20.159 There's a they have like four jacks in the background. 00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:21.199 Four jacks! 00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:22.960 And you can you can jack to one another. 00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:26.239 You can jack into share a jack one day. 00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:30.639 No series. 00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:34.000 It's like it's very tastefully done, but it's like Is it? 00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:34.559 Is it though? 00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:35.679 Cybernet it is, yeah. 00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:38.719 It's a cybernetic version of sex, but it's like to jack. 00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:42.960 It's like it's like are you gonna let are you gonna are you gonna let me in your lobby? 00:49:43.280 --> 00:49:43.599 No! 00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:46.000 All right, where are the jacks? 00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:47.519 Uh in the back of the neck. 00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:49.760 So you can connect to each other if you want. 00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:51.679 Why does that feel so much dirtier? 00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:53.119 Closer to the brain. 00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:57.119 Well, it's I guess it's a little bit like avatar, but but uh inorganic. 00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:02.159 Well, not yeah, mechanical, not organic, like the avatar braid. 00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:11.039 So, so so the the douchebag wanted to jack with the slutbag? 00:50:11.760 --> 00:50:12.639 No, no, no. 00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:18.239 And she's not a slut bag, but I don't appreciate a slut, and he's not a douche, like he's actually an AI. 00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:20.800 He was born in the field of information. 00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:24.559 You want

to be never an actual human, we find out. 00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:39.920 I think all of them but he became aware of Motiko and began to seek her out and actually allowed himself to be captured so that he could get close to Motiko and present his proposal, which he does from a female cyborg body, so it's a little weird. 00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:47.840 And then they switched bodies, so he's actually talking through Motiko to her while she's in the other body. 00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:52.480 That's an invasion of space and is disrespectful, and you need consent. 00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:55.280 You turn play musical chairs with everybody's body. 00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:56.159 Well, I don't like that. 00:50:56.239 --> 00:50:56.880 That's strange. 00:50:57.039 --> 00:51:03.679 Um, I am going to side with Alma because she is sad downstairs and she woke up. 00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:06.159 Can we can we can pause for a minute? 00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:08.719 Alma. 00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:14.880 Yeah, usually around this time every night she she wakes up. 00:51:16.079 --> 00:51:18.000 And she's always she's always upset. 00:51:18.320 --> 00:51:31.440 So over the history of the podcast, like I can't remember if she popped in in the episodes we did with you, but um frequently like she's been on you can hear her in the episodes, like we'll be holding her or something for a bit. 00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:34.320 So yeah. 00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:49.599 But yeah, she was um, I think how was she when she yeah, she was she was born right after I started the podcast. 00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:54.159 So yeah, she's grown up like through the history of the podcast, basically. 00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:57.519 Oh my this is our friend Elijah. 00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:06.000 No could you not you couldn't find us? 00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:08.800 Our studio's upstairs. 00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:10.480 The kids are downstairs. 00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:12.159 Okay. 00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:17.599 Alright, you were so I was gonna think Do you know which one I'm gonna pick? 00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:19.440 Do you either do you know? 00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:20.480 I know which one I would pick. 00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:21.360 Do you know? 00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:24.880 What do you mean? 00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:28.320 Okay, anyway, I am gonna I'll tell you after. 00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:31.679 I mean after you and I'm nervous and I already know the answer. 00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:34.239 Um I'm gonna go with Akira. 00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:40.639 Cause look, with the with the drawing, you got me at the drawing. 00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:41.920 Oh, the hand drawing. 00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:48.960 Oh like care, time, and dedication to detail for that a long amount of time. 00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:51.119 You know how boring drawing can get? 00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:52.960 I love drawing five years. 00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:55.840 Love drawing, and I would lose my marbles. 00:52:56.079 --> 00:52:59.119 I would lose it all of my marble collection. 00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:03.599 Just trying to figure out oh gosh, that had to be excruciating. 00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:07.119 But that I'm really curious to see the fluidity. 00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:11.440 A lot of motion, yeah, a lot of car chases, motorcycle chases. 00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:12.480 Careful play. 00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:13.280 Oh man. 00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:14.000 Careful play. 00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:15.920 People gunned down in the street. 00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:18.239 Was anyone over sexualized? 00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:19.760 No. 00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:21.039 Huh. 00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:21.679 Wow. 00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:22.639 Yeah, no. 00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:37.199 There's like, I don't know, they may allude to like people having relations, but really it's like that's with everything going on in the movie, it's like, you know, there's more violence, more conflict. 00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:58.320 Um, you know, I'd say like, you know, there's like one scene where, you know, somebody like rips a character's shirt off, and that's when Tetsubos get in jump, him and his girlfriend get attacked, but then the rest of the gang shows up to um attack, well, to defend them. 00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:01.920 But I'd say even that wasn't necessarily done in a sexual manner. 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:06.559 It was more of like humiliation or you know Yeah, yeah, no, that's that's different. 00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:08.079 Disrespect, yeah. 00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:18.480 Yeah, she was it was it was an assault and thankfully that was interrupted, wasn't able to go further, but and then the other gang covers her up, they give her a j a jacket. 00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:20.639 Oh and so so yeah. 00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:28.159 And these are teenage a lot of the characters are teenagers and kids too, so it would have been pretty weird if they had done the sexualization. 00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:30.719 Like that would have been disturbing. 00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:33.920 Um They're teenagers, but they uh but yeah. 00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:39.840 No, I guess it's just tasteful sexualization just for the sake of I guess here's the deal. 00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:49.920 It's like when a character is over sexualized, I feel like if you're invited to a banquet, we already know everyone likes pizza. 00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:51.679 We already know. 00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:54.000 But you're gonna have pizza at a banquet? 00:54:55.119 --> 00:55:01.519 Show some respect, have some little class, bring bring some nice cheese to the table. 00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:07.119 Like a banquet that was like um like a um at least a wood fired pizza. 00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:11.920 Yeah, do so like everyone likes like gourmet. 00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:16.159 Well, that's like bringing CC's pizza to the banquet. 00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:20.320 What do you how do I'm sorry, do we not do we hate ourselves? 00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:20.559 Yeah. 00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:21.760 Do we hate ourselves?

00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:25.280 And I will say, had I been the judge this week, I would also have picked a hero. 00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:26.239 Did you would you really? 00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:26.880 Oh yeah. 00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:29.039 I like I like that I bought it. 00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:32.000 Like it's it's really good, definitely worth owning. 00:55:32.079 --> 00:55:36.400 And at some point I I wouldn't mind getting the manga as well, at least the first first volume, at least. 00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:38.719 Yeah, it was it was really good. 00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:40.000 Yeah. 00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:46.159 Ghost in the shell is like it's thoughtfully done and it's definitely like it's influential, obviously. 00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:47.840 It influenced the matrix. 00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:52.239 Um I was almost gonna pick it because of that, because I was like, that's kind of yeah. 00:55:52.320 --> 00:56:00.480 But between between Ghost in the Shell and The Matrix, uh, if I was gonna own one, which I already do own the Matrix, so it's like I would rather own the Matrix, honestly. 00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:01.760 It's between those two. 00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:12.320 Um not not hating on Ghost in the Shell, but it's um yeah, it's a it's a little it's a little too bleak in in some ways. 00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:14.800 And I had a hard time connecting with the characters. 00:56:14.880 --> 00:56:20.000 Now I will say uh the series Ghost in the Shell Arise that's on Crunchyroll. 00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:44.000 Um I I like that it's it's really given some more depth to the characters, so it's given so it does make the movie better because it's and um they do it exactly the same animation style, so the character design's all the same, but l well, a little bit of a change for Motuko, she's resembles the uh Maga character a little bit more, um, a little bit less sexualization um as well. 00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:48.079 And um that gives a lot so I like the I like the series. 00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:50.480 Um so yeah. 00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:54.320 The movie the movie needed to be longer, it needed more backstory. 00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:57.119 Anyway, but yeah, I would have also voted for a car. 00:56:57.519 --> 00:56:58.159 Thanks, Pim. 00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:00.800 Congrats. 00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:03.039 I was gonna call you William. 00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:04.559 You're not a liar. 00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:05.679 Thank you. 00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:07.199 You also delivered it very well. 00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:10.480 Yeah, that was that's very well delivered, yeah. 00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:14.559 Yeah, um I've been studying a lot of video essays. 00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:18.800 True way to structure this um this pitch. 00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:22.400 Mainly I was watching um super eye patch wolf. 00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:35.599 I haven't watched his content in a while, but I know he had a real good video on the impact of a cure, so I use that as like a reference point, and then

I just like you know, double check like dates and names and stuff like that. 00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:37.039 Well, it paid off. 00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:37.920 It did. 00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:45.119 Alright, are we going to do the picking thing out of the magic bunny hat? 00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:48.559 Yes, uh, but before we do that, real real quick. 00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:54.159 Um we are gonna make an announcement. 00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:56.800 Oh, that we we don't need that. 00:57:58.079 --> 00:58:00.960 We could just use it. 00:58:01.039 --> 00:58:02.000 And the papers are still in there. 00:58:02.400 --> 00:58:04.960 So we are gonna pick the category for the next week. 00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:11.440 Uh if you were here in person, Allegheny, you'd get to draw out of the well, it's a popcorn bucket, technically, but draw out of the hat. 00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:12.639 I guess we could use a hat. 00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:15.679 Nope, it's too late, it's already games. 00:58:17.679 --> 00:58:18.719 I'll wear it. 00:58:19.039 --> 00:58:19.760 There you go. 00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:22.880 Oh my goodness, that is big. 00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:23.679 Yeah. 00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:28.239 Um, but no, we the announcement we foreshadowed earlier. 00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:33.840 Um, so Elijah is working on a new nerd hat logo. 00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:41.679 Yeah, coming soon, coming soon to a podcast near you. 00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:43.039 It's gonna be wonderful. 00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:45.119 Yeah, it's I love your line work. 00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:45.840 I love it. 00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:46.960 Thank you. 00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:49.920 Yeah, and you can't, I don't know if you can see it. 00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:55.199 It is the light's kind of reflecting off it, but we have some of his work in the background. 00:58:55.360 --> 00:58:58.239 It's hard to see because it's so reflective, but yeah. 00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:04.159 One of your prints I purchased uh a while back hanging up in the the pod cave here. 00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:05.440 Classic. 00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:06.320 Yeah, man. 00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:12.719 I know we're we're excited, and yeah, so our our mugs are not gonna be on the logo anymore. 00:59:12.800 --> 00:59:14.239 It's gonna be heart. 00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:16.480 So yeah, look for that to drop. 00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:27.199 Uh I think we're we're aiming for season seven to kick off with that rebranding, new logo, yeah, some merch to go along with that. 00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:28.320 We're we're excited. 00:59:28.480 --> 00:59:29.440 So hey. 00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:30.880 There we go. 00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:33.280 But yeah, thanks for for taking that on, Elijah. 00:59:33.920 --> 00:59:34.880 Dude, no problem at all. 00:59:35.039 --> 00:59:35.599 I'm honored. 00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:40.480 Just keeping my skills sharp, staying busy with a good workflow, so I'm happy. 00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:42.639 Yeah. 00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:49.920 Yeah, gotta actually I gotta send some more I gotta send some more sketches up to my homie, actually. 00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:50.719 Yeah. 00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:55.280 But yeah, man, just staying on it one after another. 00:59:56.480 --> 00:59:59.119 Alright, we're gonna get to this bucket of mysteries. 01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:07.440 So we don't have too many categories left because we're coming up towards the end of the year here, so I didn't see there was a corgi on the front. 01:00:07.599 --> 01:00:08.000 Oh yeah. 01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:09.599 That's all cute! Look at it. 01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:19.199 Well their stock has exploded over the years. 01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:21.119 Alright. 01:00:21.280 --> 01:00:21.519 Okay. 01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:24.880 I guess I will draw in your stead, sir. 01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:28.400 So what's coming next week? 01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:31.679 I'm just gonna keep on doing that for a very long time. 01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:32.480 There you go. 01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:33.280 Alright. 01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:36.320 There we go. 01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:38.800 Coming next week. 01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:41.679 Does anybody want a peanut? 01:00:42.559 --> 01:00:44.639 Irreverent medieval comedies. 01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:47.280 Oh my gosh, I'm which one is it? 01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:48.239 Monty Python. 01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:48.719 Yeah. 01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:50.000 Two matchups. 01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:55.519 One is Robin Hood, Men and Tights versus Monty Python and the Holy Grail. 01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:59.679 The other option is Shrek versus the Princess Bride. 01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:04.000 So Irreverent Medieval Comedy is the category that's two different choices. 01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:06.079 Those are very different things. 01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:11.519 So yeah, so normally uh the person who wins gets to pick the matchup. 01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:15.039 So between those two. 01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:17.280 Which one sounds more interesting to you, Elijah? 01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:21.119 Robin Hood, Men and Tights versus Monty Python and the Holy Grail. 01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:22.639 That's matchup number one. 01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:24.079 That's option one. 01:01:24.400 --> 01:01:28.159 Option two is Shrek versus the Princess Bride. 01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:33.360 Those are very those are so very different from all each other. 01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:37.360 They all take place in medieval times and they're all comedies, so they they fit. 01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:43.119 I'm not I'm not familiar with the Princess Bride, so I'm gonna say no one. 01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:44.159 What? 01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:48.079 I don't think I've ever seen Princess Bride. 01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:51.199 I've not viewed that movie. 01:01:51.519 --> 01:01:51.760 Why? 01:01:51.920 --> 01:01:53.199 You gotta remedy that, sir. 01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:54.000 I'm sorry. 01:01:54.239 --> 01:01:57.760 I listened to you on and on about Akira. 01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:01.039 But you haven't

seen The Princess Bride? 01:02:01.360 --> 01:02:02.880 Good gracious, man. 01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:06.000 Who my wow research? 01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:09.199 No, I'm taking my hat off. 01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:09.840 I'm mad. 01:02:10.079 --> 01:02:10.880 I'm mad. 01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:11.519 No. 01:02:12.639 --> 01:02:13.360 No, sir. 01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:23.679 Well, often if there's one of us that hasn't seen one of the properties, we will we will go with that one so that that person gets an opportunity to see it a lot of times. 01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:33.920 Um now I can't say whether Will has I know he's I'm no I know he's seen Shrek, but as to whether he's seen Princess Bride or not, I suspect he probably has, but I don't know. 01:02:34.159 --> 01:02:38.239 We'll probably have to wait and see how Will is with one of those. 01:02:38.639 --> 01:02:42.559 But yeah, which which one of those sounds more interesting to you in general, Elijah? 01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:43.920 Yeah, you those two matchups. 01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:46.159 Princess Bride hater. 01:02:48.559 --> 01:02:50.079 Monty Python. 01:02:56.320 --> 01:02:56.960 Have you seen it? 01:02:58.000 --> 01:02:58.719 General direction. 01:02:59.039 --> 01:02:59.679 Have you seen it? 01:02:59.920 --> 01:03:01.519 Uh yes, I've seen the first one. 01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:03.119 There's a second. 01:03:03.840 --> 01:03:05.199 There's several. 01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:06.000 Yeah. 01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:09.280 There's like Life of Brian, too many things. 01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:10.960 But yeah, this is the first one. 01:03:11.039 --> 01:03:14.559 And then Robin Hood Men and Tights, Melbrooke's classic. 01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:16.800 So that's Elijah's vote. 01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:22.239 Check and see what Will's vote is, and I'll we'll figure that out. 01:03:23.039 --> 01:03:23.679 Yeah. 01:03:24.159 --> 01:03:24.559 All right. 01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:26.800 Elijah, Elijah, Elijah. 01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:29.039 Well, well, well. 01:03:29.599 --> 01:03:29.920 Okay. 01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:35.119 Well, sir, thank you for uh for coming on and uh doing a guest pitch for us. 01:03:35.280 --> 01:03:51.440 Uh yeah, he and I were hanging out, actually uh having a conversation about the logo, and uh I told him we were gonna be doing Akira, and he immediately got excited and started rattling off a bunch of things he knew about Akira, and I was like, hey, you wanna you wanna worked out great. 01:03:51.679 --> 01:03:54.000 So I can talk about that one now. 01:03:56.079 --> 01:03:57.440 No problem at all. 01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:00.480 All right, nerds. 01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:01.920 My fellow bitches. 01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:13.519 Go alight, you can be Will stand in, so when when we sign off, like Will always goes first, and he says, so I say until next time, and he says, Sayonara. 01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:16.400 And I do my bit, and Laura does her bet. 01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:18.559 So you want to stand in for Will here? 01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:19.440 Yeah. 01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:21.519 Alright, nerd haters. 01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:23.199 Until next time. 01:04:23.599 --> 01:04:24.239 Signori. 01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:26.400 Live long and prosper. 01:04:26.639 --> 01:04:27.599 Night bitches. 01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:28.960 That's it. 01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:32.000 Nerd.