E008 - The Enlightenment Structure. Becoming a Money Master의 전체 녹취록

we're doing this, we feel like we're making progress. DOUGLAS LYNAM: Yeah, well, Darin Newbold: And DOUGLAS LYNAM: yeah, I'll Darin Newbold: Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. DOUGLAS LYNAM: just hit on the phone verges really quickly. I maybe if it's okay, I'll go through them just super fast. for Darin Newbold: Okay, sure. DOUGLAS LYNAM: type one, it's honesty, right? can be, ones are always trying to, know, they get resentful or they get critical of others. so honesty can be a way, it's like getting hit with a truth tornado. It's sort of be very accurate, but precise, but it's a way of justifying their... their need to criticize other people sometimes. Like I'm not being critical, I'm just being honest, right? And then for type two is its generosity. The helper is always trying to give, give, give and generosity is a good virtue. But the problem with the two is they're over giving. And so they can latch on to generosity as an excuse to overextend themselves. And we talked about three is that assertiveness. For four, it's mindfulness. Mindfulness is good, but they can be too mindful of their emotions and they get too mindful of what everyone else has that reinforces their envy. And then for five, it's gratitude. But gratitude is good, but it can justify their stinginess and their hoarding. If they're grateful for everything they have, they don't want to give anything away. So they can get stuck in that kind of trap of hoarding, that stinginess of being grateful for having, but rather than practicing, they need to practice generosity, which is what the two is stuck in. And for six, it's sort of modesty can get them trapped in that fear cycle. If they don't trust themselves and they like, I don't know how to make a decision. I don't know what to go and I'm not capable of making a decision. And so they get stuck in this loop, these thought loops and justifying that sort of endless, you know, the committee of voices in their head at that time, not knowing which way to go. That thing they trust themselves to make a decision. And then seven, it's mercy for eight. could be joy actually because it can reinforce their lust. It's sort of like watching a bowl at china shop. think breaking things is hilarious sometimes. So that lust for intensity and that kind of attacking at things can get them into trouble because it feels like I'm having such a good time challenging the Darin Newbold: Hmm. DOUGLAS LYNAM: world and then that actually can be a real trap for them. And then just lastly for type 9, it's faith. which means they're too trusting of the universe. They think everything's gonna work out in the end, so they don't have to do anything. So it's false kind of faith. That's just a quick summary. Darin Newbold: Yeah, that's yeah, definitely slides them into the, you know, their ego addiction of sloth. With I'm talking the nines here with faith and just, it'll all work out. So I can sit around and that's the ones that, you know, wonders why they're not either making the money that they want or having the job that they want. But they're on the couch, eating bonbons, watching whatever daytime show is happening at that time. So. All right, well. Okay, gotta get, let's get past this, this faux virtue and really start to move into the enlightenment side. And that next piece is really that the recovery virtue, the real primary recovery virtue. So, so what does that look like? And, you know, again, we can talk three and seven for you and I and what that really looks like. DOUGLAS LYNAM: Yeah, well, it's really just the opposite of your primary ego addiction. So whatever your primary ego addiction is, you just invert it and you get the virtue that you need to practice to overcome your worst tendencies. So for type three, what we need to practice is modesty, not getting ourselves out of that egoic self-engrandizement, but also not sort of falling into nihilistic despair either, that ability to see yourself accurately without the spin doctor in your head, always try spinning things in your favor and having that honest look at yourself without that PR machine in your head always pumping you up. Darin Newbold: Interesting, interesting. Well, and then for the, for the seven that really becomes mindfulness. And I, it's so funny, just to sidetrack a tiny bit. I have a, I have a very good friend, my best friend on the planet, and he's a type five and brilliantly smart. And we've talked for years about kind of a meditation and all of And I just, you know, I've known, hey, that's something that I needed to do, that I needed to kind of figure that out, but never, never did. And finally, finally, a few years back is by five, seven years ago, got, got turned onto a contemplative practice that was a little bit different than, than meditation per se. But walked me through that and I was amazed at what it does in slowing down my brain and that, you know, bing, bing, wanting to bounce off the wall and really have some mindfulness and really to be ever present in the moment. And it really did make a big difference for me. The funny part about it and kind of the fun part and kind of the way type seven of course we kind of twist it a little bit and make it fun is that it was 20 minutes of epic failure in that you're sitting here trying to quiet your mind and really say, I'm not going to think about anything. and just kind of be there. And I had a word that I would use. I used faith and that was my kind of comeback and just to stay focused. But yet it was virtually impossible. And there were so many times that all of a sudden I'd be going down a rabbit hole and I'd have to stop myself. Oh, okay, faith, faith, got to come back to it. DOUGLAS LYNAM: Yeah. Darin Newbold: But doing that was so... It really does make a difference. And many of the types, having some type of spiritual or just centering meditation is so important because being able to quiet our minds and allow us to be present and be in a moment without the distractions

that we have is so key. DOUGLAS LYNAM: Yeah, yeah. is it okay if I just list off the virtues really quickly? I'll give that way people were curious. Darin Newbold: Hey, we're gonna cruise through them all. Let's do it. DOUGLAS LYNAM: for type one, their primary recovery, which is going be gratitude, which is the antidote to their resentment. For type two is honesty, which is the antidote to their flattery. For type three, we said it's modesty overcomes their vanity. And then for type four, joy is what's going to help them overcome their tendency for melancholy. For five, it's generosity overcomes their stinginess. For six, it's gonna be faith that overcomes their cowardice. And for seven, we said mindfulness overcomes their planning, that sort of future Darin Newbold: planning. Yeah. DOUGLAS LYNAM: planning and gluttony. And then for eight, it's gonna be mercy, which overcomes their tendency towards vengeance. And for type nine, it's gonna be assertiveness, which overcomes their evasion or their sloth. Darin Newbold: Exactly. Well, that starts to continue to move us up. But the primary recovery virtue is not not the work alone of the Enlightenment structure and really making that making that change and making that difference. So There's also a secondary recovery virtue that needs to come along and really help out that ultimately leads us to our greatest virtue, but I'm not trying to skip a step here, Doug, just leading into it. So tell me about this, the now, I guess, secondary recovery virtue. DOUGLAS LYNAM: Yeah, well, we have two ego addictions in the shadow structure, so we need two virtues to kind of overcome both of those that lead us to our highest virtue. So it's sort of a we have these two sub virtues that combine to create your greatest virtue for your type. And so Darin Newbold: Mm-hmm. DOUGLAS LYNAM: it's sort of that it's sort of an alchemical. It's a little bit hard to explain succinctly, but let's just say, for example, for type three, once we once we engage in that modesty, the accurate self assessment of who we really are. then we need to practice faith. And now that's not faith in any particular doctrine or dogma, but it's the faith to trust the universe enough to take the masks off and to let our authentic selves come forward and let the world see us for who we really are. So it's it's it's, we need that modesty and that faith. And that's going to maybe lead us into the third step here real quickly. So it makes sense rather than do that separate. So for it, really the greatest virtue for a type three is authenticity, right? Because we're always wearing these masks, we're always stuck in this deceit or fueled by vanity. So we need modesty plus faith leads us to authenticity, which is really what's our true self or a higher self come through. Darin Newbold: Interesting, How would you, just real quick, how would this look as a three, how would this look as someone's kind of going through it, even whether it's through money, and I

know we're talking money and money monsters as well as lighthouses, but also even in the business environment. And how would that look, Doug? DOUGLAS LYNAM: Well, the business environment, when threes can really practice authenticity, that's when they're, that's their superpower, right? So the neat thing about every type is your greatest vice, your greatest weakness, right? When you, when you practice the virtues for your type, then your greatest weakness becomes your greatest strength. And so because threes are so struggle with deceit and vanity so much, when they, when they're healthy, that, when that authenticity comes out, they're the most sort of authentic of all types and they're most sort of. Charm you're most charming you're at your best. So you're going to be in a business environment. You're going to flow more effectively. You're going to build that trust and rapport and that connection and validation at threes desperately want. But you're to it for your real self for your true self. And then when it comes to money, then you're not using because for threes we tend to use money as a status symbol. Right. And we can get out of that rut of being a buy things to look impressive around people or equating, really equating our net worth with our self worth. And so then Darin Newbold: Mm-hmm. DOUGLAS LYNAM: if we're like the barrier or the blinger or the money monsters for the three, right. It helps us get out of that shame spiral. If we're stuck as in an avoidance trap and let's just really honestly look at our finances and maybe take the right steps that we need to do to really build wealth and build a secure financial future rather than. stuck in that avoidance or the anxious patterns that we've talked about. Darin Newbold: One of the things I've seen with this, especially with the type three, one of my clients is a type three. And one of the things she said to me is she's exhausted from being, it's like every environment for a three, they change, they're the chameleon and they want to be and show themselves. to so that they come across as the best they could possibly be for the crowd or the people that they're in front of. And she said, I'm exhausted with this. And her leaning into, and that's part of that faith, this faith in your own authenticity and faith in your own self and turning off the deceit of, I have to be somebody for everybody. And kind of that journey of finding self in that. DOUGLAS LYNAM: Yep. Darin Newbold: for that three is really that journey. Well, switching gears to our wonderful seven, because we're the funnest of all of the types and all of that. Not that I have any vested interest in that. DOUGLAS LYNAM: I think that's fair. Darin Newbold: so for us, that secondary recovery virtue, it comes really from the primary recovery virtue of our type fives, and that's generosity. And it's, Bringing mindfulness together with that generosity creates that contentment. And that's that place where for a seven trying to constantly

fill a hole inside of us that can never be filled and recognizing that we are already filled and being okay with that. DOUGLAS LYNAM: Yes. Yeah. Darin Newbold: And that's a, it's a, interesting change and an interesting switch and it's and and I want to let everyone know that as you go through this this is not a wow once you turn these switches once you're in the enlightenment structure you're done and you're all good for the rest of your life no this is DOUGLAS LYNAM: Yeah, nope, nope. Darin Newbold: a journey that that that goes over and over and over again and hey some days are better than others let's put it that way but DOUGLAS LYNAM: Bye. Darin Newbold: Part of the journey, what Doug and I both do as coaches and really focused on helping people through these journeys is bring tools forward so that, we can make the need to rinse and repeat a little less often and a lot easier. DOUGLAS LYNAM: And like anything else, it's practice. It's a practice. Whether Darin Newbold: apps. DOUGLAS LYNAM: you're practicing yoga, you're practicing golf, right? These are things that we have to practice at every day. But until someone tells you what your practice is, it's really hard to, okay, go do some meditation, go do some spiritual work. Great, go do the inner journey. But it's really helpful that when you look at it from this lens, it's like, there are virtues that, like there are vices I don't struggle with, right? There's there's look at this all the deadly sense like there's things I don't have a problem with like let me really isn't a thing for me I don't have that but I do know what I do But there is a there I do have my real problems of vanity and in deceit So so now you know when you know your type and you know, you're enlightened mr. This is how I needed to direct my energy and my focus and my attention so I get to my highest self and I can Really have that robust financial life in all areas as well as a robust spiritual life in all areas. Darin Newbold: Exactly. All right, well, let's real quickly, once you kick through all nine of these on the... DOUGLAS LYNAM: Yeah, I'll just get in. This is just a cliff note version. Just I want to make sure everyone feels that they've been represented here. But so I'll just do step one. So you need to practice. We talk about gratitude and then is your pride gratitude first and then mindfulness, right? Really being focused in the present moment. And that gets you to your highest virtue, which is serenity. And that overcomes that. that constant resentment and that anger that you're struggling with all the time is to find serenity in the goodness of the present moment rather than seeing what's going wrong all the time. And then for type two, you've got, we've talked about you wanting to practice honesty to overcome that flattery. And then you also need to find joy, joy in your own internal creativity and in your finding joy inside yourself, not outside yourself. through this endless need to serve others. What brings you joy and contentment without being codependent on other people? And that brings you to your greatest virtue, which is really humility. When you're honest about what you think, you're joyfully present, then you have this real humility that's going to overcome the pride that gets you in so much trouble. We did three, and then for type four, they're going to practice joy, which helps them with their melancholy. Then they need to work on gratitude for what they have that helps them overcome that envy. And then they get to that state of equanimity. get off their highest virtue for a forest equanimity, meaning they get off this roller coaster of highs and lows of emotions and going to those dark spaces and brooding and all right. And so that really allows them to be at their highest self. And then for type fives, they've got, of course, the first is to practice generosity, right? Overcoming their stinginess. And then they want to work on mercy so that they're being able to be that mercy is sort of that letting out or letting go of not just giving but the generosity needs to be paired with mercy so they can have their highest virtue, which is not attachment. They're not stingily attached to their opinions, their feelings, their emotions, their talent, their treasure. And they can really just information. Darin Newbold: the information that they hoard, yeah. DOUGLAS LYNAM: Instead of being a black hole of information, it kind of goes in the other direction. And now they're sort of a supernova and they can really be that, that beacon of truth and, and, wisdom for the world. Then for type six, we've got faith is what they need to practice to kind of get over that cowardice. And then assertiveness is going to help them with that sloth as well. And then the faith plus, plus assertiveness brings them to their highest virtue, which is courage. And that's really going to. courage is what's the antidote to that cowardice, that fear that's got the perpetual threat detection mode and they become the most courageous of all the Enneagram types. And that's really, again, just to re-hammer it, like your greatest weakness becomes your greatest strength when you lean into it. And so that's why the Enneagram is so powerful, because it's got this growth model built into it. So not all sixes look the same and you don't look the same on any given day and you can get to the high, Darin Newbold: Exactly. DOUGLAS LYNAM: your highest self. We did seven and then we'll jump over to eight. So they need to work primarily first on mercy to overcome that need for vengeance, to always be in attack mode, to be a little kinder to the people around them. And then honesty is going to be really important for them because that brings them their kind, their honest, and then they get to their greatest virtue, is kind of innocence. It's this, they let that warm, gooey, tender side, they can take their armor off and just live in a kind of innocence for them that is a kind of beauty

that allows them to not be in this attack mode all the time and not always be running people over. Darin Newbold: Absolutely, real quick. This is that story right there is the epitome of the M &M, if you will, that hard outer shell, but you finally get to that very soft gooey yummy chocolate inner side. And that is that journey for the Type 8. It's so great to see. DOUGLAS LYNAM: Yeah. And then wrap it up with type nine, the first thing to practice assertiveness, right? That's their first recovery virtue to get over that sloth and that merging with what everybody else around them wants. And then there's a kind of modesty for them. And that means, again, an accurate self-assessment of their strengths and their weaknesses without downplaying them. tend to downplay themselves. So the modesty is like, you don't want to over-inflate yourself, but you don't want to under-deflate yourself either. It's not humility. Humility is what twos need to work on, but modesty is an accurate self-assessment of your strengths and weaknesses. When you pair that with assertiveness, you get to the highest virtue for a tight nine, which is then going to be right action. They know what they're good at. They know what they can do. They're asserting themselves. They're taking the appropriate action and they become like the Jedi Zen master who gets stuff done as opposed to the couch potato who never gets anything accomplished. They can cut through conflicts very easily and get to Harmony, is the place after a conflict has been resolved, not the placid piece of conflict avoidance, which they can sometimes get trapped into. Darin Newbold: Well, and that right action can look like maybe the couch potato. They can also be the one doing everything but the thing that they need to do and focused on so many different things that they never actually get what they need to get done, done. DOUGLAS LYNAM: Exactly. Darin Newbold: And yeah, that's definitely, definitely quite the journey. Well, I guess as we continue on, we kind of about wrap it up or wrap. the kind of the highest pieces up here that really comes into what you describe as really that greatest hope, the basic desire that we're really looking for as we're moving to the top of the enlightenment structure. And then ultimately to the sacred gift, the holy idea that comes together for each of the types. So Doug, maybe first tell me a little bit about kind of defining what is that greatest hope, as you look at it and as we see it, as we're kind of moving through, what do you see that as the greatest hope? DOUGLAS LYNAM: Well, the hope is just the opposite of your greatest fear. So the greatest fear for a type three is that we're fundamentally worthless. And that's what gets us on this treadmill of always doing, doing, doing and going and trying to prove ourselves. But when we have practiced our greatest virtue of authenticity, now we get to be validated for who we truly are, not for the masks that we're wearing. So when we get validated for the masks, just, any praises kind of bounces off. doesn't really... It doesn't really work. doesn't get to the core wound of a three of not feeling valued because if you value the mask I put up, you're not really valuing me. So when we practice authenticity, we get to our greatest hope of feeling completely valued. That's really what we want to be loved and seen and validated for who we are. And then that really is where we get to, you know, we become our true self, our money, the money master, which is really what we want to get to is The three who lives a life of authenticity, now they be, instead of being the barrier or the blinger, they become the builder. They're really building something of value for the world around them. Not, it's not an egoic self and grand eyes meant project. It's like, what does the world need? How can I be of greater love and service and say, here's where we're going to go to and really be that build a really strong financial life for yourself. Then be able to use that as a tool for love and service in the world around you. Darin Newbold: No, that makes total sense. That makes total sense. So for a seven, for the type seven in this, the greatest hope, that basic desire is to know satisfaction. We talked about that just a little bit as I was mentioning that in the greatest virtue, the contentment and overcoming the resentment, the being trapped in pain and probation is that. being able to escape that and to know that I can be completely satisfied and there isn't, there doesn't have to be something more. that's that accepting that and being at peace with that is really ultimately leads to the grounded of a type seven where we're not trying to constantly find something the gorger, the grabber, get whatever's next, we're now grounded and we're kind of working from a place of contentment and fulfillment. DOUGLAS LYNAM: And I know this is a lot where kind of there's a lot of information, but I'll put that in the show notes. There's a great diagram chart. I'll have all of this for you guys in the show notes. There's a wonderful chart that put this all in one piece, which is you can go back and you can see this for yourself. So that'll make things a lot, a lot easier. Yeah. Darin Newbold: And one little thing I'll add to this. Specifically for type seven, it's around fulfillment. But I think fulfillment is so key for all of the types. And one of the things in our upcoming episode, talk, we've been talking a lot about monsters and this is monsters and lighthouses. So there is a lighthouse side to this. And DOUGLAS LYNAM: Mm-hmm. Darin Newbold: fulfillment is key around your purpose and understanding DOUGLAS LYNAM: Yes. Darin Newbold: and knowing your purpose. And it's one of the reasons that I became very excited about the purpose factor and bringing that into my practice in coaching and tying that in with the Enneagram as well. That'll be things that we continue to bring forward as far as the lighthouse and how

that affects each one of the numbers and each one of the types that we work through. But just wanted to bring that up on the fulfillment side. But let's go ahead and wrap this through all the numbers, Doug, and talk about that greatest hope and then the ultimate, the sacred gift for each of the types. DOUGLAS LYNAM: Yeah, so for type one, of course, their greatest fear is being bad or defective. And so when they can practice true serenity, their highest virtue, then they get to experience their complete goodness. They feel that goodness inside themselves that isn't, that they find that, it's like, you know, instead of original sin, right, there's original goodness inside all of us, but especially inside the one. And they can feel when they feel that and they really understand it when they're in that place of serenity, then their sacred gift, this is sort of the holy idea, my revision of the whole idea. Their sacred gift for a type one becomes divine, I call divine perfection. They see the perfection. That's just they stop seeing the flaws in everything around them, but they see how everything is perfect around them. What's good in the world in themselves and they able to show that and bring that even though they're still going to, you Try to make the world better around them. It doesn't mean you stop trying to improve the world, but you're seeing what's right about everything more than you're seeing what's wrong about everything. And they become the their money master, their highest self. I call them the poised, right? So they're no longer the prude or the pious. They're that poised. They're standing in that place of serenity and really can let that love flow through themselves and through all of them, all through their money, of course. And then for type two, Their greatest hope is the greatest fear is that they're unlovable. So then their greatest hope is to feel completely unconditionally loved. And they can only really do that when they are practicing their highest virtue of humility, because otherwise everything they're giving, all their help is conditional. It's got strings attached. And so when they can love unconditionally, then they can receive unconditionally. And then their sacred gift or their holy idea, if you will, is what I call divine love. They bring divine love into the world more than any other type, but it's now it's an unconditional love rather than the conditional love that they were struggling with in their lower self. And then their money master has called them the beloved. They really are that beloved person who's got strong financial foundation and they're giving generously without violating their own boundaries, without sacrificing their own financial future. but they can do it from that place of of abundance. And we talked about type three and then for type four, the greatest fear for a four is having no identity, right? They don't know who they are. They feel like the odd one out all the time. And when they're practicing their highest virtue equanimity, they get to feel their greatest hope, which is to know their total uniqueness. They see themselves as a unique, beautiful, fractal piece of the divine in the world. They see the unique place in the grand cosmos of things and it's glorious, but they also can see that in everyone else. their envy goes away and they're really living in their sacred gift, which I call divine glory. They see the glory of the divine in everyone and everything, but the hardest place for them to see it is inside themselves. And Darin Newbold: Later. DOUGLAS LYNAM: when they do that, now they can bring that glory to the world around them as well as bringing it out in other people. And I call their money master the flame, which means they're no longer the flinger or the flop, but they burn bright without burning out. They're the speak, they're on this roller coaster of emotions. There's a strong, beautiful flame and they're able to bring their unique creative gifts to the world. Darin Newbold: It is interesting as you go through these and just we talked a second ago about fulfillment, but every single type is searching for their version, whatever that is their version of fulfillment and being fulfilled in what that is. Anyway, please continue for the five. They need to know they are wholly capable and competent. DOUGLAS LYNAM: Right? Because the greatest fear, of course, is being incapable of competence. So when they can practice that attachment and can let all this wisdom and knowledge and their feelings and their ideas and even their talent and trade, when they start to let things out and stop being this black hole, then people can really validate them for that. People get to see their capabilities and see their competence. They get to understand that actually I can handle this thing called reality. And then and they become much more successful in all areas of their life. including their financial life. And so they then know that they're capable because they're succeeding at doing it. Life is going well, but they got to get over this stinginess and this avarice that's holding them back. And so then their sacred gift is divine truth. They bring the wisdom and truth of the world more clearly to the world around them than any other type because they've been figuring it all out in their heads, but now they need to take what they figured out and share it with the world and bring that truth out into the reality. And then they become their money master. I call them the Midas, like everything they touch turns to gold. Like they have, they're not stuck as the mood or the miser, they're really able to build the five, when they, you they tend to be good at saving money, but they also need to work on the investing and the giving part too. And when they, when they do that, there really are in that space of, like, think of, some mituses in the world like Warren Buffett and Mark Zuckerberg, everything they touch just turns to gold if they do

it right. Not saying that they're maybe the highest people spiritually, but you can see that their financial success has certainly been. And then if we jump to type six, now the greatest fear for a six is being without protection or guidance. So they're always looking for security and safety, they're living in that fear, but when they're practicing their greatest virtue of courage, then they... begin to trust themselves and they know that they know they are completely protected and have guidance internally. They touch that divine spark inside themselves that even though bad things happen, know that there's it's kind of that's that mystical faith a little bit that they are fundamentally safe in a benevolent universe and they then can practice their sacred gift which is divine trust. They bring, they show us The rest of us had a trust because their trust was so hard fought and so hard won. And then they become what I call the pioneer, their money master. They can blaze. They're so the Lewis and Clarke of finance. They're willing to blaze new trails, go in new directions like Mark Twain, right? People who just, their courage overcomes their cowardice. And now there are these great opportunists that can do amazing things. So, Darin Newbold: That's awesome. DOUGLAS LYNAM: okay. And then we did seven and we'll just wrap up with eight and nine. So of course, like eight, their greatest fear is being harmed or controlled. That's why they're always taking charge, taking control. And so what they really want to when they can practice that greatest virtue of innocence, then what happens is they can then experience complete freedom from harm or control. The innocent means that no one can they have the inner resources to know that no matter what happens around them, there's that divine spark inside them that is is always free. It's always even Nelson Mandela being in prison. Like there's a spark in him that you can't control. They can never be destroyed. And Darin Newbold: Hmm. DOUGLAS LYNAM: then that sacred gift for them for the eight is divine justice. They know instead of just trying to protect themselves, they're really good at protecting the innocent, protecting the weak or finding those things that injustice is in the world. And they bring a kind of justice. That's their great gift to share with us. And then they become the money master for them is the dynamo. They have all Darin Newbold: you DOUGLAS LYNAM: this energy, all this power, all these resources, not all this financial resources, and they become this powerful dynamo. Not the detonator, not the dominator, but that dynamo that goes out there and really fixes that crack in the world that only they could possibly be made to fix. And then Darin Newbold: Alright, closing it out with nine. DOUGLAS LYNAM: close out with nine. Sorry, we weren't planning to go through all of the types, but I think it's helpful. So everyone has a takeaway here a little bit. Darin Newbold: Yeah. DOUGLAS LYNAM: We then can

get to nines. course, their greatest fear is that loss of wholeness or fragmentation that they're afraid that if they ever assert themselves, you know, the the conflict avoidance and the nine is afraid that the conflict is going to cause their anger to erupt and they're going to be like the Incredible Hulk is going to. come out and a volcano is going to explode. And so they're always going along to get along. But when they can practice right action, and that's overcoming that sloth, that fear of conflict, they finally can experience complete wholeness and peace of mind. They know that they're able to assert their needs and get their needs met, but they also have that inner sense of that anger. The anger and the nine that they're always repressing is because they're not getting their needs fundamentally met. They're sort of going along to get along. They're not really being honest about what they need. And so when they take right action, they experience harmony that comes after the conflict has been resolved. Now they know they have that complete wholeness and peace of mind inside them and they're not afraid of conflict any longer. And then they get to their greatest gift. Their sacred gift is then going to be divine harmony. Rather than the placid peacemaker, they harmonize the world around them, but also finding harmony inside themselves. And that's really important for a nine to recognize and find that peace. And then they become the money master, which is the doer. They're not the spud, they're not the dud, but they're the doer who goes out there and gets it done, kills it in whatever their business is, and then takes that money and uses it to really serve the world. Darin Newbold: That is awesome. Well, what a journey we have been on for this episode. And it's definitely been a lot, a lot more enlightenment than, than our previous episode going through that shadow structure. But we must go through the shadow to find our enlightenment. And especially that dark night of the soul journey to that separates us between or separates, yeah, separates us in that shadow shadow structure to the enlightenment structure. And that's That's quite a journey and as we mentioned, it's not a one and done. You don't do that journey once and you never get to do it again. It comes back and shows up in different ways. And we'll talk about that as we continue our journey together here on Monsters and Lighthouses. want to just as a reminder, talking about lighthouses and having a direction because what happens at the end of this journey, hey, you become the doer of the nine, you become the divine truth or divine fulfillment or whatever that works out to be, knowing your purpose. and being able to then tie it to all of this, it really helps. It's going to tie into what we described as those four pillars of money, the earning savings, the investing, and then also the giving that is part of that. It helps define that and helps gives us a, well, as we describe it as the lighthouse, it's the direction in which we choose to go. Your thoughts, Doug? DOUGLAS LYNAM: Yeah, that's great. And I really love the work that you've been doing with Bold GPS. I think you've really got some great wisdom and content to share and I'm looking forward to getting into that with everybody. And so I encourage people to reach out to Darren as well for that. yeah, I think it's going to be great. Darin Newbold: All right, well, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that, Doug. And as we close this out, we just enjoy you being a part of this journey with us. If you have questions, please don't hesitate to lob them out. Put them in the areas on your. where you listen to your podcasts, be happy to do that. We also include our emails and you're always welcome to reach out to us. We love to have that and pretty soon we're gonna be bringing some guests on, Doug. So I think it'll be fun to kind of walk through some of these journeys and their different types and see live what it looks like and what that journey can really come together with. As always, again, thank you for joining us for Monsters and Lighthouses. I'm Darren, always here with Doug, and we appreciate your time. So take care, and we'll see you next time.