Mission Evolution with Gwilda Wiyaka Interviews - LON MILO DUQUETTE - Magick & Mysticism의 전체 녹취록

--> 00:03:01.039 was to immobilize the patient and maybe did outgrow it, 35 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:06.599 but it was like it was a thing where my 36 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:13.639 hip joint was literally just grinding itself. Okay, So they 37 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:18.800 put me back in the crib. Okay, And to tell 38 00:03:18.800 --> 00:03:22.159 you the truth, I loved it. I must have been 39 00:03:22.439 --> 00:03:27.520 just born to be sedentary, and I would I would 40 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:34.360 drift in and out of consciousness, like every twenty minutes 41 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:38.719 awake and twenty minutes asleep, twenty four hours a day. 42 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:41.560 So I it wasn't that I would, you know, I 43 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:45.319 fall asleep and sleep for eight hours. No, just every 44 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:50.159 other twenty minutes I was asleep. So I had this 45 00:03:51.039 --> 00:04:01.439 rare opportunity to drift between consciousness, awaking consciousness, dream consciousness, 46 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:08.919 and uh with not very much distraction at all, to 47 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:15.680 uh keep me from losing what I think we all 48 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:27.319 have pre linguistic memories, okay, and I had memories of 49 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:33.519 what I can only uh described as being memories of 50 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:35.040 being somebody else. 51 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:37.959 And so. 52 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:43.879 It was it was a few, uh a few different 53 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:50.360 kinds of somebody else's. But the most uh I felt 54 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:56.600 like I was an adult, uh that I would later 55 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:02.240 kind of figure out was uh like late or early 56 00:05:02.319 --> 00:05:10.839 twentieth century. I had this one memory where I was 57 00:05:10.920 --> 00:05:15.959 getting into a car that I would later identify as 58 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:23.000 like a nineteen twenty seven roadster. Okay, and now this 59 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:26.959 is before television or any Okay that we didn't have 60 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:32.360 a television until like nineteen fifty four or something like that. 61 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:39.000 But I had these vivid memories I was in a 62 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:44.480 trench with a bunch of other men, and I remember explosions, 63 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:47.519 and I remember the sound of dirt falling on my 64 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:55.120 on a helmet. But the vivid one was this getting 65 00:05:55.160 --> 00:06:00.560 in there, to this roadster and driving, and I was 66 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:04.759 all excited, and I remember that even the feeling. I 67 00:06:04.839 --> 00:06:08.079 remember the feeling even more than what I was observing. 68 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:12.399 And I was so anxious and so happy. And I 69 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:17.560 was driving down what I would later identify as a 70 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:24.120 Pacific Coast Highway old Highway one oh one in California, 71 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:30.199 going from like Los Angeles to Mexico, and I was 72 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:34.040 to meet my girlfriend in Mexico. And I had all 73 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:44.720 of those adult emotional feelings, okay, And I think that 74 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:54.600 helped me those years in the crib, stirring up at space, 75 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:58.639 thinking about my own existence and where I was before 76 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:02.240 I was born and things like that. And I think 77 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:11.279 all of us are born with that capacity, but we 78 00:07:11.519 --> 00:07:16.319 lose it as soon as the objective world around us 79 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:22.720 distracts us and puts us and limits limits our dimension. 80 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:24.639 Does that make any sense? 81 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:29.040 It makes total sense to me, Yes, for sure. What 82 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:32.759 pivotal event or realization convinced you that the occult sciences 83 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:34.240 are more than mythology. 84 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:41.199 Well later I'll grow up. Moved back to California. My 85 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:46.360 family moved us from California to Nebraska, back to California. 86 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:50.639 When I graduate from high school, right in nineteen sixty six, 87 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:56.759 when the psychedelic world was opening up, even in Nebraska, 88 00:07:56.759 --> 00:07:59.160 I said, if I ever had a chance to take 89 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:02.920 that LS Deep by Gully, I'm going to do it. 90 00:08:04.160 --> 00:08:09.920 And I was a musician, professional musician even at seventeen, okay, 91 00:08:10.560 --> 00:08:16.279 a working musician and a songwriter. And I was playing 92 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:23.480 at this club in Belmont Shore, California, and I walked 93 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:28.600 into the restroom at a break and a surfer kind 94 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:32.399 of kid said, would you like to buy some LSD? 95 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:35.759 You know? And I said, I sure, would you know? 96 00:08:36.600 --> 00:08:43.679 And I'd heard all of this stuff I read about it, 97 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:48.559 doctor Timothy Leary and doctor Albert and stuff. I read 98 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:53.399 all the magazine articles about it, sort of the godpill 99 00:08:53.600 --> 00:09:00.000 and stuff. Well, I wanted that God pill because I knew, 100 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:04.559 I knew consciousness was a whole bigger thing than I 101 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:13.519 then everybody else, you know, thinks. And it was an amazing, 102 00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:20.399 an amazing experience, and I had the luxury of taking it. 103 00:09:23.159 --> 00:09:26.320 There was somebody in the next room in case, you know, 104 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:32.360 I freaked out or something. But I was alone all night, 105 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:41.840 just with

me, and before that, before the evening was over, 106 00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:51.840 I knew that everything was bigger than I ever imagined, 107 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:59.440 and that everything was me. I know it sounds all. 108 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:04.960 I'm right, I'm right there with you. I'm casually the 109 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:05.799 sixties two though. 110 00:10:05.879 --> 00:10:09.559 So okay, well you're holding up well. 111 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:12.720 Okay, oh, thank you. From from your perspective, How does 112 00:10:12.759 --> 00:10:15.840 magic relate, speaking of which to human consciousness and evolution? 113 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:20.240 That's all it is. Okay, that's all it is. Magic. 114 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:28.600 UH is UH a series of magic and kabbala. Okay, 115 00:10:29.080 --> 00:10:36.600 it's a series of of thought processes meant to accelerate 116 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:49.320 willed self evolution and UH magical techniques and cabalistic UH 117 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:57.440 based magical techniques are truly the ultimate reason for it 118 00:10:57.519 --> 00:11:00.600 is not power over others, or it's not to walk 119 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:03.519 on water and stuff. Maybe all that stuff comes along 120 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:12.200 with it, but only because the expansion of all of 121 00:11:12.240 --> 00:11:20.799 the possibilities of human consciousness are activated, are lubricated, are 122 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:29.080 are are put into practice. It's it's like peeling away 123 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:41.320 layers of a glass onion. It's literally, as a Buddhist said, 124 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:43.840 you know, hey, I didn't. I'm not a god, I'm 125 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:47.960 I'm not a mystic. I'm not a magician. I just 126 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:56.759 woke up. Okay. And magic is to help you, assist 127 00:11:56.840 --> 00:12:02.039 you in a in a dramatic and color way. Okay, 128 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:08.480 it's it's not a boring magical art form. Okay, it's fun, 129 00:12:08.639 --> 00:12:11.840 it's colorful, you get to dress up even, you know. 130 00:12:14.679 --> 00:12:19.720 But the whole purpose, the whole purpose, is to systematically 131 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:20.320 wake up. 132 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:24.440 Do you feel humanity is currently undergoing a spiritual or 133 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:25.559 esoteric awakening? 134 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:32.679 Yeah? Much. And I think everything that would would say no, 135 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:37.720 we're just going to hell in a handbasket, will Yeah. 136 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:43.039 But I think that's a symptom of an advance, a step, 137 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:47.639 a leap, if you will, in human consciousness. 138 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:50.000 Like the old falling apart before the new takes form. 139 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:56.080 There you go. And well the Gnostics would call that 140 00:12:56.159 --> 00:13:04.559 the EAO formula. You know, uh, nature seemingly ruined by 141 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:14.039 catastrophe only as as sort of the phoenix nest whose flame, 142 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:21.080 out of whose flames comes the the next baby phoenix. 143 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:26.000 But Alice through Crowley, who. 144 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:28.159 I'm sorry, I'm going to have to interrupt. We'll get 145 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:30.720 we'll get into Crowley on the other side of a station. 146 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:35.120 Pray lawn, and I will return very shortly, So don't 147 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:39.960 you go away. This is Mission Evolution www dot Mission 148 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:44.720 Evolution dot org. What isa with a c iss our 149 00:13:44.759 --> 00:13:50.639 discussing mysticism and tivination is Lon Milo Duquette, occult scholar, author, 150 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:56.639 musician and magician. Lan How does the Kubala map structure 151 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:59.799 of consciousness? Uh? 152 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:07.200 Pretty accurately, I would say, you know, Kabbala is not 153 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:11.440 a not a book, okay, but there's lots of Cabalistic 154 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:21.440 uh textbooks Okay, ancient ones for those starting from square one. Uh. 155 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:27.960 We could say it's the the mystical and esoteric tradition 156 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:39.639 of Judaism. Okay ah, but the oldest Cabbalistic text. It's 157 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:41.639 actually written in Hebrew. 158 00:14:42.279 --> 00:14:42.519 Uh. 159 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:46.279 It's sort of the founding document. It's called the Sefer 160 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:55.080 yet Zira, or the the Book of Formation. As if 161 00:14:56.519 --> 00:15:01.519 this is creation okay. It's not a narrative Bible story like, 162 00:15:04.159 --> 00:15:10.360 but deals with almost creation on a quantum physics or 163 00:15:10.759 --> 00:15:21.440 astrophysics point of view. And it uses the Hebrew alphabet 164 00:15:21.919 --> 00:15:28.960 as almost like flash cards trying to explain this. And 165 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:32.480 there's twenty two letters in the Hebrew alphabet, and they 166 00:15:32.519 --> 00:15:36.080 say the twenty two letters those are the. 167 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:43.879 Words that God used to create existence, and those words 168 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:46.519 are made up of letters, and they're the twenty two letters. 169 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:52.240 That's sort of the allegory of the whole thing. But 170 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:58.639 that sefroyette zirare just simply and it's just like a pamphlet. Okay, 171 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:03.679 it's not even a book. You know. It said, yeah, 172 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:14.720 or Deity created everything in thirty two mysterious paths of wisdom, 173 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:26.360 and that includes ten numbers out of nothing, so zero 174 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:32.360 to ten, Okay, everything was created with those ten those 175

00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:40.159 ten numbers and then those twenty two letters, and then 176 00:16:40.200 --> 00:16:44.679 it goes to work to show how everything can be. 177 00:16:45.159 --> 00:16:50.840 Everything in a manifested universe can be explained with those 178 00:16:50.960 --> 00:16:56.519 ten numbers and those twenty two letters. And those twenty 179 00:16:56.559 --> 00:17:02.799 two letters are shown in modern times with the flash 180 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:07.559 cards of the tarot, because there's twenty two letters, twenty 181 00:17:07.559 --> 00:17:12.039 two tarot trumps or a greater arcana, and each of 182 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:17.799 those tarot cards are assigned one of those Hebrew letters. Okay, 183 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:23.880 and the thirty two paths of or the ten out 184 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:30.480 of nothing are the are the the ten cards in 185 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:36.000 the lesser arcanas each suit is it is ten. Well, 186 00:17:36.119 --> 00:17:40.079 here I'll show you in my own tarot deck. Here 187 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:51.480 if I can find talk amongst yourselves. Okay, there are 188 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:55.559 those ten bubbles. Okay, I'll get it out of my name. 189 00:17:55.599 --> 00:18:00.640 There ten bubbles, those circles, those are the tens that 190 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:03.599 come out of nothing, and they spend a lot of 191 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:08.799 time talking about that nothing too, okay, which takes us 192 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:14.519 right into the quantum level. Okay. Now it sounds all 193 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:18.160 spooky and hard, but it really isn't. It really isn't. 194 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:23.880 There's those ten emanations, and that top one would be 195 00:18:24.039 --> 00:18:29.559 like Godhead, the singularity of existence. If we back our 196 00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:33.039 camera up as far back as we can go and 197 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:39.279 put everything into one shot. Okay, that's the singularity of Godhead. 198 00:18:40.079 --> 00:18:46.319 And these are lower emanations of consciousness okay, all the 199 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:52.680 way down to your head. Okay, from Godhead to your 200 00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:57.319 head and everything in between. And the process that we 201 00:18:57.440 --> 00:19:00.480 just got through talking about the process of waking up 202 00:19:01.279 --> 00:19:06.759 is here. We are asleep within a dream within a dream, 203 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:10.200 within a dream within a dream within a dream within 204 00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:15.720 a dream, okay, and our whole thing is waking up, 205 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:22.759 step by step to those different levels of consciousness until 206 00:19:22.799 --> 00:19:27.440 the Supreme awakening. These last three are sort of the 207 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:33.640 stage's last stages that Buddha went through, okay, just before 208 00:19:35.079 --> 00:19:39.640 his great awakening. And the paths that connect those are 209 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:49.480 like circuitries twenty two different conduits of intelligent energy going 210 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:55.880 back and forth like a model train transformer. When you 211 00:19:55.960 --> 00:20:03.200 turn it up, it transforms the the frequency of electricity 212 00:20:05.519 --> 00:20:12.279 back and forth. So to go from like ten to nine, Okay, 213 00:20:13.319 --> 00:20:16.319 there's the Hebrew letter and there's the Tarot card that 214 00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:21.319 does that, and it steps down the consciousness frequency to 215 00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:26.000 go there, but going up it turns it up and 216 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:34.200 so it's an alternating current. Okay, it's really good stuff. 217 00:20:35.440 --> 00:20:37.960 So where did Duro come from? I mean it looks 218 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:40.079 like it's so sophisticated. 219 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:47.240 Well, the numbers in the letters are sophisticated, but tarot 220 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:52.799 is like the Okay, how would we how would we 221 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:59.880 put this in pictures? Okay? Now, I don't believe that 222 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:07.400 tarot cards that we have today. And this is my 223 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:11.759 tarot deck. By the way, how have you lived so 224 00:21:12.440 --> 00:21:24.559 long without having this tarot deck? The tarot wasn't invented, 225 00:21:24.680 --> 00:21:29.799 at least my understanding, it wasn't invented as a cabalistic tool. 226 00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:37.839 It was the potential of a cabalistic tool because human 227 00:21:38.119 --> 00:21:44.400 consciousness got a hold of it in the same way 228 00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:53.720 that our generation's consciousness, if we can say a generation 229 00:21:53.880 --> 00:22:01.559 has a consciousness, our consciousness was brought together and changed 230 00:22:01.640 --> 00:22:08.480 and mutated by the invention of radio and television. Okay, 231 00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:15.680 And in the fifteenth century or the sixteenth century, the 232 00:22:15.839 --> 00:22:21.039 human consciousness of the of the western world anyway, was 233 00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:33.160 altered by the universal fascination with plane cards. 234 00:22:32.240 --> 00:22:34.039 Was it was it a game to start out with. 235 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:37.039 It was two kinds of games to start with. The 236 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:41.000 greater arcana was it was a game just called it 237 00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:45.640 was wildly popular called memlock. And that was like bridge. 238 00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:55.359 And that's like the greater caana cards bridge. Tarophi or 239 00:22:56.200 --> 00:23:02.440 I know I'm pronouncing it right or incorrectly, Tarouchi or 240 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:09.920 Tarouki was a parade like the Tournament of Roses parade, 241 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:15.839 but it was a parade, a triumphal parade that had 242 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:23.680

hierarchical structure to it, like the head guy was the 243 00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:27.839 first guy in the parade, and the second guy in 244 00:23:27.880 --> 00:23:32.680 the parade took second place, so the first guy triumphed 245 00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:37.759 him or trumped him so it was a hierarchical thing, 246 00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:43.440 and some cards were had greater value than others, and 247 00:23:43.480 --> 00:23:47.079 you'd play it like bridge, I'm sorry this card here, 248 00:23:47.119 --> 00:23:52.480 Trump's your card, so it gives me more score. So 249 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:56.359 it was like that, okay, And it was wildly popular 250 00:23:56.400 --> 00:24:00.519 with the aristocracy of Northern Europe because they could afford 251 00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:05.799 to have real life artists painted. Because in their parade 252 00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:10.160 they had the gods of the of the Greek and 253 00:24:10.279 --> 00:24:18.039 Roman gods, okay, they had they had moral qualities like 254 00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:23.400 and virtues okay, like faith, hope, and charity. They all 255 00:24:23.519 --> 00:24:32.559 had their okay, And they had characters from the the 256 00:24:32.599 --> 00:24:35.119 culture around them. They had the Pope, and they had 257 00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:39.039 the Emperor, and they had the Empress, and they had 258 00:24:39.319 --> 00:24:45.319 religious figures like the high priestess okay who used to 259 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:52.519 be pope esque even and magicians and stuff, and they 260 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:57.240 had the devil. And then they had the things like 261 00:24:57.519 --> 00:25:04.960 fortitude and h and balance and stuff. And they had 262 00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:07.759 as many as I think they had as many as 263 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:11.720 maybe sixty different things over the years. 264 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:16.640 Okay, How did it transform? How can touro serve as 265 00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:20.400 a gateway to self awareness and transformation at this point. 266 00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:25.440 Because it's already doing it. Okay, it's an ordered deck 267 00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:32.880 of tarot cards, would be like the kabalistically speaking, would 268 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:40.720 be like the universe as it really is perfectly operating. Okay, 269 00:25:41.519 --> 00:25:46.160 we don't think that the universe is operating perfectly because 270 00:25:46.200 --> 00:25:50.799 our lives are so screwed up. But no, the universe 271 00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:55.799 is doing exactly what it should be doing everything on queue. 272 00:25:56.359 --> 00:25:59.880 The reason we don't see it is because we have 273 00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:05.480 of insufficient powers of perception to view it that way. 274 00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:08.000 We're not awake enough. 275 00:26:09.319 --> 00:26:12.799 How do you distinguish between genuine occult practices and superstition 276 00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:15.559 or fantasy.

277 00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:20.960 You have to have a certain level of maturity and 278 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:36.079 to fully grasp what magic is about. And Aleister Crowley said, look, 279 00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:42.720 if you want to get into magic for unscrupulous reasons, 280 00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:48.680 but you're really serious about getting into magic, go ahead, 281 00:26:49.720 --> 00:26:54.839 because by the time you learn what magic is and 282 00:26:54.839 --> 00:27:01.960 what it's about, you'll realize that you're unscrupulous. Initial desires 283 00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:08.960 was total bs. Okay, you know, So to be a magician, 284 00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:15.440 to work magic, you have to be the equivalent and 285 00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:20.279 have to develop yourself into the equivalent of what the 286 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:23.240 yogis would say self mastery. 287 00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:26.880 Well it's time again, Lawn and I will be right 288 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:30.160 back to continue our discussion. So stay right there. This 289 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:36.160 is Mission Evolution www. Dot Mission evolution dot org. Magic 290 00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:42.000 illusion or delusion. This is Mission Evolution, Mission Evolution dot org. 291 00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:47.960 We're discussing the occult with Lawn Milo Decuay. His website 292 00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:52.240 is Lawnmilo Duquette dot net. Ln. Can you explain the 293 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:55.079 relationship between subconscious mind and occult work? 294 00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:08.200 Well, the in a sense, ceremonial magic is only the 295 00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:19.039 outward activity or an act, outward act that is triggering 296 00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:31.119 inward faculties. Okay, my whole my whole thing was shortly 297 00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:39.319 after my bombshells of early psychedelic experience. I wanted to 298 00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:45.480 be a first class Eastern mystic okay, okay, And we 299 00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:54.200 were into yoga and things like that, and I kept 300 00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:59.000 wanting because this is what I observed. I wasn't into magic. 301 00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:06.319 I was into like like yoga and Zen and esoteric Buddhism, 302 00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:16.240 and but I eventually discovered that I kept thinking how 303 00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:25.039 cool I was going to look gaining enlightenment, Okay, and gee, 304 00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:28.039 I'm going to look cool losing my ego, you know, 305 00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:38.759 And that almost was impossible for me to overcome. I 306 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:45.799 couldn't break in, but I wanted. I wanted to be 307 00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:55.240 what was in, but my technique needed to utilize the 308 00:29:55.359 --> 00:30:01.720 mechanics of outside to do it. I needed to work 309 00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:07.440 with my inner, inner faculty and in. I don't want 310 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.599 to sound

chauvinistic, but in the East, it just seems 311 00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:18.839 that the practitioner is more naturally inclined to close their 312 00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:25.160 eyes and go within and peel away all the things 313 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:29.799 that they're not okay, to get to that serene, smooth point. 314 00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:36.480 But in the West, Okay, we're not inclined to do 315 00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:40.079 to do that. And I don't know, it's not genetic 316 00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:43.440 or anything. It's just the kind of the Western way. 317 00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:48.119 We like scripture, we like ritual, We like things outside 318 00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:52.519 of ourselves. Even though we know that what we're doing 319 00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.240 when we pick up the wand and wag it around 320 00:30:57.079 --> 00:31:01.799 that it's it's not really that we're working with, it's 321 00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:09.599 it's it's the will that of our of our focused intent. 322 00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:16.039 And so do the tools help simply help focus the 323 00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:19.240 intent and the will of the individual. Yeah, and then 324 00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:21.559 and we've put the power into the hands of the 325 00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:23.480 tools inadvertently. 326 00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:28.759 Well, we're we're using the tools until we understand that 327 00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:36.599 they're inner things, okay, And it's it's like a like 328 00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:43.599 a training training ground for internal things. And and once 329 00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:47.440 you've made the connection that that wand is an interior 330 00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:55.559 power and an interior tool, then that wand has power. 331 00:31:57.799 --> 00:31:59.799 You can wave it around all you want to without 332 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:02.519 engaging the interior and you're not going to have any effect. 333 00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:12.279 It's just a stick. Yeah. Yeah. And so the magic 334 00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:17.559 isn't for everybody. It's sort of a lonely uh art form. 335 00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:25.559 Uh insomuch that that it's a it's a dramatic spiritual 336 00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:33.559 practice that just has one audience and one actor and 337 00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:42.000 one stage and uh and one terribly terribly ruthless critic. 338 00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:50.839 And uh so it truly isn't for for everybody. 339 00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:55.000 How how does one safely begin a magical or esoteric 340 00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:58.960 practice without falling into delusion? Uh? 341 00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:07.039 Well, usually you fall into magic because of delusion, okay, 342 00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:14.000 until because some people are just attracted to it because 343 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:17.200 they have a sense that this is going to be 344 00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:28.640 my way, okay. And and that's that's good, because they 345 00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:31.960 have a sense that it is going to be my way, 346 00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:36.720 and that they fall in love with the with the 347 00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:44.400 outer forms of it because they know they sense that 348 00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:52.319 that somewhere in there it's the thing for them. I 349 00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:57.440 tell people, hey, just do what you're attracted to it first. 350 00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:02.640 There may be five or six things that that you say, 351 00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:05.920 what I'd like to get into that and do it 352 00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:14.679 for a while. Okay, nothing is wasted on your journey. Okay, 353 00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:20.599 you could view entire incarnations as well. I'm do you 354 00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:25.559 know what I'm attracted to? You know? But the the 355 00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:32.719 whole thing with magic is that I believe human consciousness 356 00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:43.519 as a AH in general, has undergone uh and an 357 00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:49.159 expansion so that that we can see what was once 358 00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:55.760 a very very small and focused magical art form or 359 00:34:55.880 --> 00:35:01.360 spiritual art form of the medieval magician, that only a 360 00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:06.199 few people AH were attracted to, and out of them 361 00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:10.519 only a few understood what they were, what they were doing. 362 00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:13.159 What is a demon? You know? 363 00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:17.280 What was my next question. You've written extensively on angels 364 00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:20.440 and demons and entities. How do you explain their nature? 365 00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:24.840 Well, we've all been we're all hardwired, you know, with 366 00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:30.519 a with a six pack of demons and angels. Okay, 367 00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:36.159 we're all hardwired with it because they're frequencies of consciousness, 368 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:41.320 and some of those frequencies of consciousness when they are 369 00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:47.000 not properly directed or are controlled or or understood, just 370 00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:51.400 sort of run run amok through our psyche, through our 371 00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:56.960 through our lives, like like burning draino, you know, through 372 00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:01.199 you know. But it's not it's not that they don't 373 00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:05.519 belong there, because if they're there, they belong they're they're 374 00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:11.440 there to do something. And and where that level of 375 00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:18.519 consciousness goes, they need you. Okay, they need you to 376 00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:25.679 direct their their untapped energies in the same way that 377 00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:31.320 the myth of Solomon King Solomon, Okay, he used demons 378 00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:36.719 to build the Great Temple. Okay, that was his that 379 00:36:36.840 -->

00:36:38.880 was his labor union. Okay. 380 00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:45.039 But are the independent intelligence archetypes aspects of our own consciousness? 381 00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:51.440 Everything is in your head, everything including everything you think 382 00:36:51.519 --> 00:36:56.519 is outside of your head. So I wrote a couple 383 00:36:56.559 --> 00:37:03.159 of books as as Asbi Lamad ben Clifford. Okay, I 384 00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:05.760 had to invent my own rabbi, so I so I 385 00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:13.039 could quote myself, and Rabbi Ben Clifford says, it's all 386 00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:16.679 in your head, but you just have no idea how 387 00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:22.320 big your head is. Okay, and he really means that 388 00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:29.440 because ultimately, oh the cabitalists say, we got there's four 389 00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:32.639 parts of our soul, if you will as the animal part. 390 00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:35.960 Then there's the intellect ruoc part, and there's this thing 391 00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:40.239 called the neshima, which is a roughly translated soul intuition. 392 00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:45.920 But that's not the neshma is not limited by time 393 00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:48.840 and space. When a mother wakes up in the middle 394 00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:50.920 of the night and she knows her child is in 395 00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:54.440 trouble or has been in an accident or something, that's 396 00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:58.880 because the child can never leave the mother's nashamah. Okay, 397 00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:03.760 but it seems like it's outside, doesn't it. The child 398 00:38:03.800 --> 00:38:06.360 may be on the moon, or on Alpha Centauri or 399 00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:09.840 a million light years away, and the mother would still 400 00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:12.679 get that message in the middle of the night. That's 401 00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:16.159 how big the mother's neshima is. It's kind of depressing 402 00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:24.440 actually when you think about mothers. But that means there 403 00:38:24.679 --> 00:38:30.400 is no outside of your head, and there is ultimately 404 00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:37.360 you are that number one consciousness. Okay, it's not outside 405 00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.599 of yourself. It's not someplace you're going to. It's some 406 00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:43.920 place you already are and you just haven't woken up 407 00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:44.960 to it. 408 00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:47.960 Is it just a matter of not having focused on, 409 00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:49.360 not having found it internally. 410 00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:56.920 Yet yeah, so in the same way as those cabalistic 411 00:38:57.039 --> 00:39:07.440 those abstract cabalistic concepts are easily visualized in the individual 412 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:21.639 tarot cards. Okay, in that same way the magical forces, angels, spirits, demons, intelligences. Oh, 413 00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:26.360 the cabalists

have them all categorized. I mean, these guys didn't. 414 00:39:26.719 --> 00:39:29.199 They had a lot of time on their hands, okay, 415 00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:36.760 and they've got them categorized in anal retentive neatness. And 416 00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:40.320 their names all add up to the right numbers, because 417 00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:48.039 you know, like prime numbers fit inside greater numbers and 418 00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:55.079 things like that. There ultimately isn't an outside of yourself. 419 00:39:56.840 --> 00:40:00.639 And so for the purpose of try to get in 420 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:07.480 control of everything that's inside yourself, deal with them as 421 00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:16.320 angel spirits. Okay, you use the word independent, I mean, 422 00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:19.719 are they are the demons in some section of hell 423 00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:22.440 playing poker, just waiting for you to call them up, 424 00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:25.280 you know on there. Oh there's a phone. I got 425 00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:33.480 to go to lawn. Ah. No, okay, I don't believe 426 00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:38.239 in it like that at all. But for the sake 427 00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:46.280 of focusing on one particular magical force, that is that 428 00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:52.719 spirit's job in the in the cosmos, and currently that 429 00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:59.519 spirit's not doing their job, you know, as as as 430 00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:03.719 you would need it to do. Yeah, you for the 431 00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:08.039 purpose of the ceremony, you play along with the fact 432 00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:11.679 that these are objective beings. 433 00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:14.760 We're gonna have to We're gonna have to dive into 434 00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:18.159 the objective beings on the other side of another station break. 435 00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:20.880 Please stay with us is law and I continue to 436 00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:25.159 explore our cult tools. This is Mission Evolution, Mission evolution 437 00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:29.239 dot org. Can he a cult help us today? This 438 00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:32.920 is Mission Evolution, Mission evolution dot org. We're continuing our 439 00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:39.119 discussion with Loan Milo du quette is website lanmilodiequette dot net. Lawn. 440 00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:42.079 How can a cult tools help people navigate the challenges 441 00:41:42.119 --> 00:41:46.920 of the modern world. 442 00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:53.079 Well, just like putting a tarot deck in order, uh 443 00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:58.639 gives you in a certain sense of reboot. It takes 444 00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:03.679 your chaotic world eteter reboot you reboot. I didn't do 445 00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:07.480 much today, but I put one thing in order. It 446 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:14.159 starts with putting something in order, putting yourself in order. 447 00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:23.039 I use the term a psychic reboot. And you know, 448 00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:25.599 to tell you the truth, it is like a like 449 00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:31.360 a lube a lube job, because if we were actually 450 00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:39.599 chugging away our psychic machinery in a well oiled manner. 451 00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:47.519 We would be clear and clear and clear reflections of 452 00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:54.840 the divine consciousness, of the universal consciousness, because that's exactly 453 00:42:55.159 --> 00:43:01.360 what we are, and each at each s depth of 454 00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:06.119 that waking up process. The capital suits say, as I 455 00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:09.880 moved from ten to nine, to the wakeness of eight, 456 00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:13.119 to the awakeness of seven, okay, all the way up 457 00:43:13.159 --> 00:43:26.280 to Godhead, I realize how increasingly universal I really am. Okay, 458 00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:31.559 we could put it in kind of psychological terms and 459 00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:39.239 say magical practices such as such as this served to 460 00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:56.679 increasingly intensify our own self realization. And if when I 461 00:43:56.760 --> 00:44:02.639 came away from that first acid experience, I knew that 462 00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:10.960 self realization was the only thing in life truly worth 463 00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:23.000 going for. And if you can get to that realization, 464 00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:29.519 anything that you do, I'm sorry, I don't say that 465 00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:37.719 any religion is wrong or anything you can anything that 466 00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:44.519 you can do to facilitate your own self realization is 467 00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:49.400 probably the best thing you can do with your incarnation. 468 00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:58.199 And so for me, I love the in the same 469 00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:01.400 way I have taste in music, in the same way 470 00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:09.440 I have taste in movies and drama, and I have 471 00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:14.920 taste in how I want to go about my self realization. 472 00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:24.079 And when I stumbled on magic and to satisfy my 473 00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:28.400 meat brain part, I stumbled on Cabbala, and where I 474 00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:32.880 saw how magic and cabala were actually the same thing, 475 00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:40.119 I knew that that nothing else was going to satisfy. 476 00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:46.119 And when I ran across the works of Alistair Crowley, 477 00:45:47.639 --> 00:45:50.400 at first I was totally freaked out because this guy 478 00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:56.159 had just such a horrible reputation. And I called himself 479 00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:59.119 the Beast six sixty six, and he just pushed all 480 00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:05.400 the all of the fear buttons, you know. Uh, and uh, 481 00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:11.239 something something about him was like, gosh, but he once 482 00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:15.519 he knows

everything that I want to find out, you know. 483 00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:20.599 And then as the as the months and years passed 484 00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:23.039 and I meet people that actually lived and worked with 485 00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:26.559 him and everything else, they made me feel silly that 486 00:46:26.679 --> 00:46:35.599 I was that afraid. Okay, wow, my friend, uh from 487 00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:39.000 the old hippie days, Mad Bob, we called him, and 488 00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:43.239 he was he's a saint. He's we all know saints, Okay, 489 00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:47.639 he's one of them. And uh, he came back from 490 00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:51.480 Guatemala and I told him what I was into Tarot 491 00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:56.719 and this this uh Aleister Crawley character. And I said, oh, 492 00:46:57.039 --> 00:46:59.880 I found out he was a devil worshiper of some kind. 493 00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:04.239 And Bob looked at me like I was the stupidest 494 00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:08.400 person in the world, because he told me so, That's 495 00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:14.039 why I knew he was thinking that. And he said, look, 496 00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:19.199 this guy knows everything that you want to find out, 497 00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:22.960 experienced everything you want to experienced, and he was not 498 00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:25.679 afraid to tell people about it. I said, yeah, but 499 00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:28.760 was he a devil worshiper? Was he a Satanist? 500 00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:36.159 He goes no, and then he goes, well, yes, and 501 00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:40.079 he said no, no, Well, if he was a Satanist, 502 00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:43.679 he was a really good kind of Satanist. 503 00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:49.039 You're just going to love this guy. And he was right. Okay. 504 00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:53.320 I read the Book of Thoth and ninety nine percent 505 00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:56.119 of it just went way over my head. But the 506 00:47:56.159 --> 00:48:01.280 one percent I could grasp was, Okay, this guy's brilliant 507 00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:06.800 because he's talking about this consciousness shift in humanity that 508 00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:09.800 we were talking about at the very beginning of our 509 00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:15.599 chat here today, and that is humanity as a whole 510 00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:26.000 goes through leaps dimensional leaps in consciousness and it all 511 00:48:26.119 --> 00:48:30.199 has to do with something very fundamental that the entire 512 00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:36.199 world experiences at the same time that completely changes their 513 00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:47.000 focus of reality, and that is our relationship with the sun. Okay, 514 00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:54.880 for a great period in human history, we thought, well, 515 00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:58.119 for a great period, we didn't even pay that much 516 00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:03.760 attention to the sun, just trying to fill our bellies, okay, 517

00:49:03.840 --> 00:49:13.079 and survive from moment to moment. And that was we'd 518 00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:16.320 call that an aon. There was there was an aon 519 00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:22.559 where we were just woman was magic because we didn't 520 00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:25.000 know where babies came from, and they just popped out 521 00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:27.119 of a woman, and we didn't know where the food 522 00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:30.360 came from, and everything else just pops out of the ground. Okay. 523 00:49:31.519 --> 00:49:34.960 That was That was something we all shared in the 524 00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:40.519 magical formula. All dealt with with goddess worship and uh 525 00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:44.679 woman worship, and that was all connected to the moon. 526 00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:48.599 You know, the cycles of the moon that the women 527 00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:52.440 are in tune with, and they swell like the moon 528 00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:54.760 and then empty and all of a sudden there's a 529 00:49:54.800 --> 00:50:00.639 new little og you know. But then we started to 530 00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:05.519 put two and two together that the animals don't come, 531 00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:12.480 the crops don't grow, or the food doesn't grow when 532 00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:17.679 the sun is weak, and then we realize we need 533 00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:21.119 the sun. It's a partnership between the Sun and the Earth. 534 00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:24.800 And then then we get all freaked out that the 535 00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:29.239 sun dies. Oh god, it goes down, and I oh shoot, 536 00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:32.599 you know, everything's going to be lost, you know, and 537 00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:35.920 it goes further south. Well, if you're in the northern hemisphere, 538 00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:39.480 it goes further south in the wintertime, and we don't 539 00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:41.679 know whether it's ever going to come back or not, 540 00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:46.199 you know. So it's a new, improved way of looking 541 00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:50.920 at things. And there came a time when all of us, 542 00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:55.920 most of us put two and two together that we 543 00:50:56.000 --> 00:51:00.480 needed the sun. That was another shift in human conscientiousness, 544 00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:04.440 and it was another point of view of the of 545 00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:08.840 the universe and reality that we didn't have before. So 546 00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:11.800 it was an improvement, but it was still a mistaken 547 00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:18.400 improve improvement. And then it became all of the son 548 00:51:18.519 --> 00:51:24.079 and all this patriarchal stuff and kings and life came 549 00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:27.599 out of depth. So there was everything we were sacrificing 550 00:51:27.639 --> 00:51:31.320 each other just to make the sun come up, you know, 551 00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:35.119 And as long as we kept doing, sure enough, the 552 00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:35.920 sun came up. 553 00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:38.800 Go figure, right, go figure. 554 00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:45.559 You emphasize enlightenment doesn't require abandoning everyday life. Why is 555 00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:46.239 that important? 556 00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:50.239 Oh God, you got to keep every day life, uh, 557 00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:58.280 to keep gaining enlightenment. Now it's it's uh. You integrate 558 00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:01.679 all of all of this in the same way as 559 00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:07.639 your consciousness is integrated with everything you do in everyday life. 560 00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:15.679 I mean, I'm a struggling householder, Constance, and I've been 561 00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:21.159 married for fifty eight years. Congratulations, well, thank you, thank you. 562 00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:27.800 Congratulate her for putting up with all of this. As 563 00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:33.599 a matter of fact, it was. It's a necessary partnership 564 00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:38.760 of we're on this journey together and we're so lucky. 565 00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:51.320 At least I'm so lucky anyway, No, I integrate. I 566 00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:58.840 can't be who I'm not, and what I am is 567 00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:03.800 kind of a while than crazy magician. And once you're 568 00:53:03.840 --> 00:53:11.920 a magician, everything you do is magic. And when you 569 00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:16.760 screw up in life, you've magically screwed up. 570 00:53:18.599 --> 00:53:20.920 That puts my heart at ease. I have to tell you. 571 00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:26.199 So, you don't do magic to make your life. Now, 572 00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:36.280 you do magic to make your life magic, okay, And 573 00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:47.800 it is a perpetual background meditation at all times. And 574 00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:52.239 you know I'm not consciously thinking Oh, that's that Hebrew letter, 575 00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:59.039 this or all of that's that suffering? No, when you're 576 00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:03.400 the per of magic is to make yourself a mgation. 577 00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:08.039 Well, Loan, it's about that time. So before we close, 578 00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:09.920 I have to ask you, what's your mission? 579 00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:18.639 My mission is to completely exhaust my potentiality. 580 00:54:21.519 --> 00:54:22.760 That is a worthy mission. 581 00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:28.079 It'd probably take a while, just min, just min. 582 00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:32.159 What final message would you like to leave our listeners 583 00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:34.239 for seeking empowerment, evolution. 584 00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:36.639 And deeper meaning trust yourself. 585 00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:42.000 There we have it, Lon, Unfortunately we are out of time. 586 00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:43.840 Thank you so much for coming on the show and 587 00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:44.679 sharing your wisdom. 588 00:54:45.079 --> 00:54:46.239 Thank you very much. 589 00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:50.480 It's been a pleasure. Our gratitude to Lan Milo Duquette 590 00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:54.199 for sharing his wisdom with us today. To explore Lan's books, 591 00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:59.159 teachings and music, visit Lawnmilo Duquette dot net. This has 592 00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:02.719 been Mission Evil with Gwildwyeka. For more and from Mation, 593 00:55:02.920 --> 00:55:07.159 or to enjoy past archived episodes, visit www dot Mission 594 00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:10.960 evolution dot org. But please be sure to join us 595 00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:14.199 again next time on Mission Evolution as we continue our 596 00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:18.159 journey into the expanding frontier of human potential.