It's Just Eyebrows - Until It Isn't (Episode 148)의 전체 녹취록

the back room of a hair salon, and it was my sister-in-law's studio where she does like she's an aesthetician. 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:36.800 She does, she did PMU too, she did a lot of different things, but she said I could use her studios uh at like at 3 p.m. 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:38.319 on Saturdays and Sundays only. 00:04:38.319 --> 00:04:41.759 So that was like my only slot, and it was an hour away from my house. 00:04:41.759 --> 00:04:50.240 And so one of my friends, she came to my house, we carpooled together and we got to the appointment, and I started getting so nervous. 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:51.680 I was literally shaking. 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:53.279 I thought I was gonna throw up on myself. 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:56.639 I blacked out, forgot everything that I had been practicing for months. 00:04:56.639 --> 00:05:05.600 These brows that I had drawn like a hundred times, I just went blank after I mapped her shape and then I started working on it and I just didn't know what to do. 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:12.160 But you know, I tried to stay calm and tried not to puke, and now I was like, okay, I'm I can do this, I can do this. 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:18.639 And um, I took me four to five hours, and in the end, I was so disappointed in my result. 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:21.040 It was nothing like I had been practicing. 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:29.040 And my friend was so kind and she was so sweet, and she was like, Oh, don't worry, like, you know, uh, and and I had offered them a touch-up in about six to eight weeks. 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:31.600 So she's like, maybe you, you know, you can fix it at the touch-up. 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:37.199 And it wasn't awful by any means, but it was I was just I felt really defeated. 00:05:37.199 --> 00:05:43.120 And the good news was I I didn't even go deep enough into her skin to to make like to do anything. 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:45.120 Honestly, it was it would have just faded away. 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:49.519 I think it did just fade away because I was just barely scratching the surface. 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:50.560 Yes. 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:51.600 Good, right? 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:54.560 At least I didn't go too deep and then you know mess her up. 00:05:54.560 --> 00:06:01.920 But then I was so sad, you know, it was a very quiet ride home five hours later, and I didn't really do anything that I thought I was gonna do. 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:05.600 And I got home that night and I cried and I wanted to give up. 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:07.920 And I was like, I don't think I can do this. 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:09.360 This is so hard. 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:12.319 And, you know, if it was easy, anybody would do it. 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:19.040 But, you know, my husband said, Look, you've already invested so much time and you've invested a lot of money, and you know, it's your first time. 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:21.920 You're gonna have to suck before you get better at it, you know. 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:23.120 You had just gotta keep trying. 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:23.680 Yep. 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:29.439 And right, so I had to, you know, brush myself off and like, okay, I can do this, I can do this. 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:32.480 My second friend, it was even worse. 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:33.839 Really? 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:35.600 Even worse, the experience. 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:46.959 Yes, I made her brows like way too thick, and this time I thought I didn't go deep enough the last time, so I went a little deeper, and I think I just did a little too much, and um, they were awful. 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:47.680 They were awful. 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:53.120 She tried to go home and remove it herself that night with something she Googled online, like a salt and lemon mixture. 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:53.920 Oh my god. 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:57.839 And you know, I know it was awful. 00:06:58.879 --> 00:07:00.480 So were you ready to quit then? 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:05.040 I was ready to quit again, and I was like, I cannot do this. 00:07:05.040 --> 00:07:07.360 I may I just did it, I made it even worse. 00:07:07.360 --> 00:07:10.000 I don't this is, I don't know if I'm cut out for this. 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:11.920 Like, this is just so hard. 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:18.879 And again, here comes my husband, like, it's okay, you know, it's you know, and I was like, I did it even worse than the first time. 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:20.079 I don't know, I'm gonna come back from this. 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:24.160 He's like, Don't worry, but I had already like had a third and fourth and fifth model booked. 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:26.560 So they were also my friends, they were already scheduled. 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:32.319 So, and and you know, I I had to, I was too embarrassed to even submit it to my instructor. 00:07:32.319 --> 00:07:34.399 That's how like bad it was. 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:47.839 So I again I had to just sit with it for a little bit and then really face my mistakes and see what I did wrong and just figure out how I won't make those mistakes again. 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:52.800 And when I got to my third, because I still had to, I had to get up and I had to keep going. 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:56.959 My third client was also another friend, and this time I did better. 00:07:56.959 --> 00:08:03.920 You know, I didn't make the shape too thick, I didn't go too deep, and she had a good amount of hair already, so it was a little bit easier. 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:11.199 The first two were very challenging because the the hair growth and like everything about it was challenging and especially hard because I was so nervous. 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:18.079 So by the third one, I got a little bit better, got a little bit felt more confident, I didn't mess anything up. 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:22.319 She loved it, she was super happy with it, and I felt like, wow, I I did that. 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:23.920 Like, okay, I it's possible.

00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:25.279 I'm starting to feel better. 00:08:25.279 --> 00:08:26.560 It's possible, yeah. 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:28.720 And then so I actually submitted that to my teacher. 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:35.279 My teacher said, Okay, you did a nice job, but the top of the brow looks a little round, so why don't you try making these adjustments and try again? 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:36.879 So, okay, I gotta try again. 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:41.679 So my fourth model, another friend this time. 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:44.960 Um, I I thought I did better, the shape was better. 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:47.440 I got through it with a little bit more confidence. 00:08:47.440 --> 00:08:50.879 When I look back at that photo now, I'm just like, yeah, yikes. 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:56.799 But my teacher probably felt bad for me. 00:08:56.799 --> 00:08:59.919 You know, she was like, she gave me like an A for effort. 00:08:59.919 --> 00:09:01.679 And so she I finally passed. 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:07.120 And I think that gave me the confidence I needed once I got certified that, like, okay, you can do this. 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:09.200 Like, you just gotta, yeah, keep trying. 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:11.519 You're gonna get better and better with every client, you know. 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:16.000 So um multiple times I I was ready to throw in the towel. 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:18.720 But I'm really glad that I just kept pushing myself. 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:24.559 And I think I kept pushing myself because the reason why I was doing this was I I I had to quit my job. 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:29.200 Like I just could not even fathom working there like another year. 00:09:29.200 --> 00:09:31.600 I just I was feeling so unhappy. 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:36.799 And and then I knew that I just wanted to create something for myself. 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:56.000 And I was getting really uh excited about the art that I was creating and you know, but at that point I was working on all my friends and it didn't it didn't feel like enough of a reason yet to anchor me, so I was still unsure about whether or not I could make a career out of this versus a side hustle. 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:56.799 Right. 00:09:56.799 --> 00:09:59.200 So go ahead. 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:13.120 What I what I'm hearing is um what I'm hearing is you had to fail a bunch of times in in order to get to the point where you kept doing it and you decided to continue to move forward. 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:24.000 I think that that is uh a a lesson that you know we hear sometimes in in different ways, but um it's especially hard when you're new to something. 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:34.960 So since this we're talking this, you know, that our audience is teens, and we're talking about young adults and teens, it's especially harder when you're new at something, regardless of age, actually. 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:37.919 But when you're a teen, you're always new at something, right? 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:41.360 So, you know, the younger you are, the more new you are at something. 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:56.240 And um, just imagine, and I'm talking to the audience right now, imagine we wouldn't, she wouldn't be here right now and I wouldn't know her name, and neither would you if Tanny had decided to just quit because the first couple of times didn't go well. 00:10:56.240 --> 00:11:00.960 But I wouldn't say that you were a failure, Tandy, because you don't really fail until you stop trying. 00:11:00.960 --> 00:11:02.559 But you kept trying. 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:12.080 So I I want to move on to a particular story um that really kind of anchors this episode together. 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:20.080 So there was, I think it was your 11th client, and what happened in that appointment and what did it do to you? 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:27.759 So up until this point, my first 10 clients were friends, family, and I was just making their brows look better. 00:11:27.759 --> 00:11:37.919 And I didn't feel I wasn't sure if um it was meaningful enough, or I didn't know that like w the the power of eyebrows. 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:52.159 And then my 11th client was a friend of a friend, was referred to me, and she when I asked her for a photo just so I can see what I was getting into, she sent me a photo of her eyebrows, and they had nothing, no hair, not even one. 00:11:52.159 --> 00:12:06.480 And and I s and she explained that um, so I've lost all my hair, I have trichotilomania, it's a condition where I nervously pull out all my hairs and lashes, and this is something that I've been dealing with since high school. 00:12:06.639 --> 00:12:06.960 Oh wow. 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:20.240 I'm married, I have two kids, I sneak off to the bathroom every morning when I wake up and I draw my eyebrows in, I have a pencil, stencil, like a 15-minute routine every morning, and I don't feel confident enough to face the world until I have my eyebrows drawn on. 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:21.519 Oh wow. 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:25.679 And I was I thought, wow, that's awful. 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:30.320 You know, I I'd never met anyone that had that uh condition. 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:36.080 And so I was very nervous because I'd also never worked on somebody that had no hair. 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:40.879 Up until this point, the hairs can kind of hide any flaws or if there's any imperfections. 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:43.440 So I knew that I had to do a really good job. 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:50.080 And when she showed up to the appointment when I met her, she was very meek, timid, um, couldn't really even look me in the eyes. 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:51.840 She was looking at down the whole time. 00:12:51.840 --> 00:12:58.720 And wow, I had been practicing that whole week, had to say a little prayer just to make sure that I could do this thing. 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:00.159 Please, God, please bless my hands. 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:01.600 I can help this lady. 00:13:01.600 -->

00:13:04.799 And I worked on her and I was really proud of myself. 00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:06.799 I thought I did a really good job. 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:12.639 And when I showed her the brows, uh, held my breath and she looked at them and paused for a moment. 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:17.919 And then she started tearing up and she was like, Oh my God, are you telling me like I can wake up like this tomorrow? 00:13:17.919 --> 00:13:21.519 Like I don't have to sneak up to the bathroom and you know, and fill my brows in. 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:24.960 And she started crying and she said, Can I give you a hug? 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:25.600 I love them. 00:13:25.600 --> 00:13:28.480 And she hugged me and she said, Tanny, you have no idea. 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:29.840 You just changed my life. 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:32.240 And then I started crying, and then she started crying. 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:36.399 We're just standing there hugging each other, crying, and I'm just like, I'm not crying. 00:13:36.799 --> 00:13:37.279 You are. 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:40.639 You know, I've never experienced something like that. 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:44.879 But, you know, I went home that night feeling so good and proud of myself. 00:13:44.879 --> 00:14:01.679 And she sent me this really nice text message reiterating her gratitude, and just said, Tanny, like I didn't ever think I would have a solution to my problem, and they look natural and I love them, and I wish you, I pray for you in your business, and I hope you can help as many people as you can help me. 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:03.840 Again, like, thank you, you've changed my life. 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:09.519 And that was a pivotal moment in my career where I was like, wow, that's deep. 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:14.799 Nobody ever told me that they I changed their life from anything that I've done. 00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:19.440 And so in that moment, I felt like, okay, this is my calling. 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:22.320 Like, this is the universe telling me that this is my calling. 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:28.320 And I made a promise to myself to be the best brow artist I could be, so I could help as many people as I can. 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:37.120 And I'm just gonna go hard 100% and like focus on this and and and try to make it so that I can do it full-time and eventually leave my job. 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:44.559 Did it do you feel like it that moment with that one client, do you feel like it it was your driver for a long time? 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:47.440 It was a catalyst for sure. 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:58.320 Because after that client, um, because in the beginning I was only doing friends and family, but then when I was when I started building my content and my social media, I started attracting strangers. 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:03.600 I remember my 19th client was someone that found me online that had no connection to me whatsoever. 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:11.519 And I felt that was like the best day of my career because I felt so validated that a stranger trusted me and paid me full price. 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:13.759 Everybody else had been discounted up until that point. 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:17.519 And I was like, wow, if I can get one person to do this, I can get 10 people. 00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:28.240 And all the strangers that were coming to see me after that were women of all ages, all you know, skin types, diversity, ethnicities, different brows, like, and suffered from many different conditions. 00:15:28.240 --> 00:15:33.360 So here I was thinking this industry was superficial, wasn't quite sure yet. 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:37.840 Is it gonna be kind of like the fashion industry where it's just kind of an outer layer thing? 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:50.159 But then you start peeling back the layers and you're meeting all these people that have lost their brows for different reasons and seasons of their life, or they tweezed them all to hell in 1999, you know, like we're there's a support group for that. 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:52.159 Like I was guilty of that too. 00:15:52.159 --> 00:16:00.879 But these women that go through menopause or they go through um it had cancer, they've alopecia, and I started working on many more people like that. 00:16:00.879 --> 00:16:15.279 And there were people at one point, I remember like every week there was at least one person crying, tears of joy in my studio just from eyebrows and feeling like they got a piece of themselves back, and you're just like, wow, crazy. 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:17.360 How did it feel? 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:19.200 How did it feel? 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:20.159 And that's the thing. 00:16:20.159 --> 00:16:26.559 People think, oh, it's just eyebrows, it's just makeup, it's just hair, it's just nails, but we or it's just skin, right? 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:41.279 But when you have a medical condition or a whatever condition, you got an issue and it has become a thing that makes you hold your head down, like that woman that that you talked about and was looking down, no confidence whatsoever. 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:56.000 When it when it's something that uh harms you in that way, when you come on the back end and you fix it, it's you're not just you know, you're not just making them look pretty, you're building their confidence. 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:59.279 And confidence is actually everything, it really is. 00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:04.799 And if you don't have it, you will be incompetent at your job, you get into bad relationships. 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:06.240 Confidence is everything. 00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:08.880 Confidence branches out to many different things. 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:17.039 And the fact that you build it in the beauty industry, and I'm saying that because some people do think, oh, the beauty industry is just shallow, but it's not. 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:28.799 You know, I I told you during our call before I I'm, you know, did wedding gowns for many years, and

I compare it to that because oh, it's just a gown, it's just one day, not to the bride. 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:36.000 They put their whole all of their emotional their whole emotional energy right into the dress. 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:37.599 I mean, you got married, right? 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:38.720 And absolutely. 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:47.200 And for someone who's, you know, has issues with their eyebrows like that, or alopecia and they're all gone, you know, there's a lot of different conditions. 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:48.559 I don't know them all, you do. 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:52.000 But for something like that, I could see that making a big difference. 00:17:52.000 --> 00:18:08.720 And for the people listening right now, I want you to explain to them what like I don't even know how to word this right now because it's not on my question list, but how deep, how deep does that feeling go when you know that you're actually doing more than just something cosmetic? 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:23.599 It's like I said, I when I was looking for something to really anchor me and to make me feel like I was making a difference and, you know, personally impacting each and every one of these clients because it's a very intimate experience. 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:26.960 Like I'm, you know, hands on them and tattooing their face. 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:35.839 And I've worked on women who like were gotten out of divorces and like let themselves go and like gained a lot of weight, and then they got their brows done. 00:18:35.839 --> 00:18:41.039 And then when I see them six weeks later, they come back, they've lost 10 pounds, they have their lashes, their nails done. 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:51.599 And they said because they felt so good with their brows, it it motivated them to, you know, get themselves back together and take care of themselves again and like show up, you know, for the world. 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:54.400 And like if you look good, you feel good, you do good. 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:56.720 And that trickles down to everyone around you. 00:18:56.720 --> 00:18:57.759 It's a ripple. 00:18:57.759 --> 00:19:03.920 And you just show up with a different air every day, you know, and then you just want to be better at everything. 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:12.319 And I think being able to just be a part of someone's life like that, and they can look into the mirror and they look at their eyebrows and they think of me. 00:19:12.319 --> 00:19:18.240 And they get to take home a little piece of that, you know? 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:20.559 And it's just been beautiful. 00:19:20.559 --> 00:19:30.400 So for a young person right now who, you know, maybe they they they've been working jobs, but they have no idea what you're talking about. 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:33.119 They have not experienced any kind of fulfillment. 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:34.319 I'll call it that. 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:41.839 Uh, in your case, the fulfillment you get just gave us the details of

your fulfillment, but fulfillment is is the foundational principle, really. 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:46.400 So you're doing something, not just fulfillment, but meaningful. 00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:52.880 You're actually making a difference in the world by making the difference one person at a time who really needs your services. 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:54.960 That to me is a big deal. 00:19:54.960 --> 00:20:01.200 So, for the young person listening right now, how can they find their meaningful work? 00:20:02.799 --> 00:20:22.640 I think that when I was young and I was in my teens or 20s, you know, I I didn't know the path that was going to be laid out for me, or I didn't know what any opportunity would lead me to, but I knew that in my core I wanted to do something that would help other people. 00:20:22.640 --> 00:20:37.920 And I didn't know what that was gonna be and to make people feel good or, you know, because we're all blessed with different talents and and different, you know, we have different motives and we have different things that motivate us, but I would just listen to my gut and kind of follow different paths. 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:41.680 And my original, like, I feel like I have I'm a social butterfly. 00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:44.799 So I have a knack for sales and marketing and talking to people. 00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:59.839 So I started working uh in that those fields because I was naturally good at it and eventually worked in corporate sales, but corporate sales was it was paying me, but I wasn't feeling happy and fulfilled after a while. 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:03.519 I wanted to do something more creative because the artist in me wanted to do something creative. 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:05.680 So I decided I wanted to be a fashion designer. 00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:10.640 But then all the sales and marketing skills I had garnered from working in corporate for 10 years, like I took that with me. 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:16.079 That becomes a part of your arsenal, that becomes a part of who you are and what you can bring to the next thing, right? 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:16.319 Right. 00:21:16.480 --> 00:21:19.359 So I got into fashion design and got a degree in fashion design. 00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:22.000 But lo and behold, I don't like cutting samples. 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:25.359 So I became a sales and marketing manager. 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:27.839 I'd rather slaver, but I get it. 00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:28.799 You know what I mean? 00:21:28.799 --> 00:21:36.079 Like, and and the thing is, but you have to do it to get to try before you know what is what you're gonna like and what you don't like. 00:21:36.079 --> 00:21:39.839 But I still ended up working in fashion for 10 years because I loved everything about it. 00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:42.240 I loved, you know, design the design process. 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:44.559 I was just much better at doing the sales and marketing. 00:21:44.559 --> 00:21:46.799 So that's how I kind of fell into

that role there. 00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:51.839 But then when that started being fulfilling and I stopped feeling aligned, then I wanted to find something else. 00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:58.720 And then when I got to permanent makeup, I had 20 years of experience in sales, marketing, design, branding, photography, all of this. 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:02.559 And I showed up with You know, guns blazing, and I'm like, I just need to learn this skill. 00:22:02.559 --> 00:22:04.559 And I know exactly how to build my business. 00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:07.920 So I was successful very quickly. 00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:20.640 But then, you know, somewhere in between the fashion design, I decided I wanted to be a yoga teacher because I was so stressed out from the fashion industry, high pressure demands, and like somewhat of a toxic environment some days. 00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:22.960 And I needed something to kind of ground me. 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:42.720 I decided I took a I got certified to be a yoga teacher training, which taught me a lot of discipline and actually gave me more of a sense of like um be caring for others and being a servant and being considerate and having devotion and you know, and and connecting like my mind, body, and spirit. 00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:48.559 So I think that helped me move towards something that was going to be more meaningful. 00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:56.559 But I wouldn't have known that I I never even imagined I would be doing this today when I was 20 years ago. 00:22:56.559 --> 00:23:12.000 But I knew every part of my path, something inside of me was just always telling me that, you know, you're capable, you're talented, and you can do whatever it is you want to do, and the money will come as long as you're taking care of other people and you're making people happy and you're making yourself happy. 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:18.559 So anytime that I started to feel unhappy in anything that I was doing, then that's when I started to seek something different. 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:23.920 And I think it's really important to listen to that inner voice because you only you will know, you know? 00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:24.720 Let me ask you. 00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:26.160 You'll just take the steps. 00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:28.559 Let me ask you this as well. 00:23:28.559 --> 00:23:35.599 So a lot of times people think, and I've said this on the show so many times, people think that you only have to take one pathway. 00:23:35.599 --> 00:23:41.920 And I say this because many youth right now are getting outdated adult advice that says that. 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:45.119 Oh, well, if you're gonna be a doctor, then you have to be a doctor the rest of your life. 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:47.519 Well, if you want to be a fireman, you have to be a fireman the rest of your life. 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:50.720 You want to be a cook, okay, so you gotta be able to own a restaurant for the rest of your life. 00:23:50.720 --> 00:23:52.319 And that's that's not true. 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:56.000 You can switch careers, and it's okay to do that. 00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:59.440 So you went from the fashion industry to what you're doing now. 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:03.680 Well, yeah, to um to the beauty industry, I'll just say. 00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:12.319 Do you think that being in the fashion industry, if you hadn't been in the fashion industry, that your experience in the beauty industry would be like. 00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:13.519 I would not be doing this. 00:24:13.680 --> 00:24:13.920 Yeah. 00:24:13.920 --> 00:24:14.400 Right. 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:21.359 It you know, what's what's interesting is that um growing up, my mom did nails for like 30 years. 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:28.799 So I saw the grind, I saw I saw the hustle, and I was naturally drawn to it because she's like my inspiration. 00:24:28.799 --> 00:24:40.079 You know, like you look up to your mother and and and I wanted to be like her and I loved fashion, I love beauty, and all that stuff, but she was like, No, I didn't come to this country so you can go and do nails. 00:24:40.079 --> 00:24:47.039 She was like, You she was like, I do this because you know what I mean? 00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:52.559 She's like, you need to go to school, you need to get a degree, you need to, and she wanted me to take the conventional route. 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:56.640 And and and she says, uh, I want you to be better than me, you know? 00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:59.920 And and but my sister was also really creative. 00:24:59.920 --> 00:25:04.319 Her and I are like cut from the same cloth, and she's a really great, she wanted to do hair. 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:07.279 And then, but my sister and I are a little different academically. 00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:10.240 So my mom was like, Your sister's good with her hands, she wants to do hair, she can do hair. 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:13.200 You are you have a brain for academics. 00:25:13.200 --> 00:25:16.240 So she said, You go and you go this path, right? 00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:18.480 And I did everything she wanted me to do. 00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:21.599 I got a full scholarship to San Diego State Business School. 00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:22.559 And guess what? 00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:33.039 I had a little too much fun, was a little too social my first year, joined a sorority, met a guy, and then fell into academic probation and got kicked out after two semesters. 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:35.279 And I thought my life was over. 00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:46.240 But and I think but that was something inside of me, like choosing not to go to class because I didn't like it, choosing not, I I was bored to death of the business classes. 00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:49.920 And then I wanted again to, you know, I had to go out into the real world. 00:25:49.920 --> 00:26:02.000 I took a break from school for a little bit, and I did, I worked some office jobs and I did door-to-door sales, I worked at an insurance company, I did

all sorts of things to finally come to realize like I don't want to do sales and marketing anymore. 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:06.480 I want to go and do something creative, and then that pushed me into fashion. 00:26:06.799 --> 00:26:08.720 But you only knew it because you did stuff. 00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:10.000 You didn't just follow it. 00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:13.039 I had to do stuff to know that whether I liked it or not liked it. 00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:18.880 But of course, I'm doing things in the moment to make money, and then you realize money isn't everything. 00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:27.359 I yes, I I want to point out you're bored to death with business classes, yet you are a big businesswoman now. 00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:29.680 I know the irony of it all. 00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:38.559 So it is the irony, but I'm saying that because there's a that that what I that statement that I just made applies to so many people. 00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:45.839 They're sitting in a math class, and they're probably gonna be a future scientist that's gonna use math uh uh 75% of their day. 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:50.799 And they don't realize that some of the classes you think you hate right now, you'll be in the industry. 00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:55.759 But sometimes the classes are in a format uh that you're that's not good for you. 00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:58.880 And sometimes you're just not mature enough to be ready for it, to be honest with you. 00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:00.480 Yeah, absolutely. 00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:03.519 But I I love that I just thought that was funny. 00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:11.279 But yeah, I love the fact that you you are you are living proof of the fact that you don't have to have one career path. 00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:15.440 You're not a failure if you don't keep doing the same thing over and over again. 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:22.000 And I'm saying that out loud to the audience because many youth are being told the opposite, mostly by friends and family. 00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:27.119 You know, your father was uh uh a uh doctor, so therefore you have to be a doctor. 00:27:27.119 --> 00:27:30.079 And it's like, no, you they don't. 00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:42.480 If that's not what you want, maybe your father was an uh arm doctor, I don't know, making up something, but you want to be a foot doctor, or you want to work in a medical field in a different way, or you want to be a uh what do you call it? 00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:43.599 Uh veteran. 00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:44.319 Veteran? 00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:44.559 No. 00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:45.440 A veterinarian? 00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:46.480 Yes, thank you. 00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:47.200 Not a veteran. 00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:48.079 Yeah. 00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:50.319 I know that word. 00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:52.720 Veterinarian, the one that works with animals. 00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:57.359 Um, you know, and there's there's different paths that they can take. 00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:01.839 So what do you have to say to the youth of the world today? 00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:06.559 I think that there is no conventional route. 00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:16.880 And society will tell you, you know, the school systems, they're not built to create thinkers and innovators and, you know, designers. 00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:22.000 They are built to create people who will work in a nine to five cubicle for the rest of their life. 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:33.680 And they're gonna tell you one thing, but I think you have to um, it sounds cliche, but just try and like follow your heart, but then just try different things that you have an interest in. 00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:50.160 These days I see so many young kids on social media and like doing really cool things, like, you know, if whether it's like decorating uh desserts or, you know, painting or doing something creative, like and and you can monetize it uh if you're if you see a demand or a business for it. 00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:52.000 But not everything is about monetization. 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:55.440 There's some things that you just need to do just to nourish your own soul. 00:28:55.440 --> 00:29:11.200 But I think you do have to have some sort of ambition and you do have to try and show up and have good work ethic, no matter what it is you do, you know, be a good person, be honest to yourself, and just don't don't be afraid to fail. 00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:13.680 The faster you fail, the faster you grow. 00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:18.559 And we are in a constant state of change, so nothing is ever permanent. 00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:32.000 And you can be whoever you want to be, you know, if it makes you happy and you're here to be happy and and have a contribution to society, like you're moving society forward in some way, shape, or form. 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:40.559 I think that should be the ultimate goal, not to, you know, work at a job for 50 years, have a pension, and wait to retire and not travel or anything like that until you're old. 00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:47.359 Like I feel like life is meant to be lived and experienced, and that's why we're all here as light beings having a human experience. 00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:48.799 You're here to live. 00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:51.759 You won't know what you want to do until you try. 00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:52.640 Yes. 00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:53.920 I I yes. 00:29:53.920 --> 00:30:03.920 I can tell you my own experiences, but that's another episode of things that I that I didn't know, I didn't know that I had a passion for until I started doing it. 00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:04.400 Right. 00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:06.960 Like I really, really well, I'll tell you real quick. 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:13.119 So I, you know, I've said on here before, uh, I make and design, I used to make and design wedding gowns. 00:30:13.119 --> 00:30:15.599 I was in the bridal industry for over 20 years. 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:24.480 And what I I came across a specialty that I started

specializing in, and I didn't know that I loved it until I did it, and that's heirloom wedding gowns. 00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:30.319 That's where you take your mom's wedding dress from 1984, 1965, or 1991, whatever year. 00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:38.799 And I will I will convert it into a modern dress uh for you to wear down the aisle today in 2026 or whatever year it is. 00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:45.599 And I will literally take that 80s dress, which is so way out of style, but turn it into something that looks, you know, ready for you today. 00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:47.599 It looks like you bought it off the rack. 00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:52.240 I didn't know that I had a passion for that until I did it. 00:30:52.240 --> 00:31:08.000 When I saw, and like you, when I saw the difference that it would make emotionally for people, oh my God, I get to wear my mother or my aunt's or my sister's dress or veil or whatever thing I had, it it meant it wasn't something you could buy at a store. 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:11.200 It wasn't and you know what it meant so much. 00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:16.079 And I I that's why when you said about the passion, I'm like, I understand that. 00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:21.519 And I really would love for every young person to experience the passions we're talking about. 00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:29.359 Yeah and if you don't, if you're listening now and you've never experienced what we're talking about, it's time for you to change that. 00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:33.359 So Tany, where can people find you? 00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:40.880 So they can find me on Sway Brows.com, my website or Instagram, Sway Browse. 00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:45.359 Um basically those are the two main platforms. 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:49.200 And um yeah, Sway Brows, find me for services. 00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:53.359 So now I teach other new artists on how to build their skills as well. 00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:58.160 I also coach UD professionals and entrepreneurs on how to build their businesses. 00:31:58.160 --> 00:32:06.400 So we have multiple layers in our business now, but uh our little ecosystem of services, education, and also mentorship. 00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:11.279 So if you're in California and you're interested in her field, she knows how to teach you. 00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:14.640 Well, Tanny, thank you. 00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:16.240 It's been a real joy talking to you. 00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:17.680 I really appreciate you coming on. 00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:19.519 Thank you so much. 00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:21.039 It was a pleasure. 00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:26.480 And now for a mind-shifting moment. 00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:30.720 Today we talked a lot about passion in our work. 00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:35.359 And I want you to really sit for a moment and think about this. 00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:46.000 First, have you ever done work that leaves you that fulfilled and invigorated, that exciting feeling about what you're doing? 00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:50.640 If you have not yet found that, it's time to change. 00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:56.559 And if you are a teenager listening right now, don't settle for anything until you find it. 00:32:56.559 --> 00:33:03.519 It is okay if you need to keep changing careers until you find it. 00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:05.519 Or positions within a company. 00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:07.279 Sometimes that'll do it. 00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:10.559 But don't just work to pay bills. 00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:12.400 Enjoy what you do. 00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:14.319 Do something meaningful. 00:33:14.319 --> 00:33:22.559 If you just work to pay bills, that is the most unsatisfying, unfulfilled, miserable life you could ever have. 00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:24.799 Find your passion. 00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:28.960 You know, people say follow your dreams, follow your passions. 00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:31.279 But the truth is you need to find it first. 00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:32.960 You can't follow what you can't see. 00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:35.039 And you need to figure it out. 00:33:35.039 --> 00:33:38.160 You need to figure it out by trying. 00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.480 So go and figure it out. 00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:41.920 You're not wrong. 00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:45.359 There's nothing wrong with you if you need to figure it out. 00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:47.599 Keep trying until you find it. 00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:55.519 You've been listening MindShift Power Podcast for complete show notes on this episode. 00:33:55.519 --> 00:34:00.559 And to join our global movement, find us at fatimabey.com. 00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:06.880 Until next time, always remember there's power in shifting your thinking.