Mary Shelly's Frankenstein - Midnight Viewing - A Year in Horror Crossover의 전체 녹취록

every fest. We are starting up 68 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:36.879 the Books of Blood Fest here at Midnight Viewing, examining 69 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:41.160 all the filmed adaptations based on Clive Barker's seminal horror anthologies, 70 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:44.120 The Books of Blood. We've got a rotating group of 71 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:47.639 horror heavy hitters joining me for that series, including mister 72 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:49.879 Paul Waller, Tell the people what you do? 73 00:04:49.959 --> 00:04:50.199 Paul. 74 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:53.839 My nine is Paul Waller, not Weller. I'm a horror 75 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:57.240 movie addict. Due twenty twenty, the workload for my music 76 00:04:57.240 --> 00:05:00.480 industry job explode right down, and the sign to I 77 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:04.959 discovered the movie social networking platform called Letterbox, so I 78 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:07.480 decided to fill in the gaps of my horror film knowledge. 79 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:10.839 I'm still averaging two a day, and this podcast is 80 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:15.560 a result of that horror compulsion. This is a year 81 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:16.279 in horror. 82 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:22.959 But you know what the most facts in your world is, 83 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:25.560 It's fair every year. 84 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:56.279 Fine, okay, nineteen ninety four, On the very release date 85 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:58.600 of this episode, I can take you back. 86 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:01.759 Twenty nine years to that very year, ninety ninety four. 87 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:05.639 So yeah, welcome back, horror list lovers. We've returned. Last 88 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:10.240 month we covered the complete Wes Craven filmography pawn an 89 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:13.040 All and the top three horror films according to me 90 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:16.480 that he's directed were in reverse order. At number three, 91 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:19.079 Scream that is, of course, the one with the most 92 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:22.000 iconic opening scene of it ever film ever, I reckon 93 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:25.560 in my time that I've been alive. Number two was 94 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:28.759 an oldie, but a filthy goldie called The Last House 95 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:32.680 on the Left, and a number one hot shot was, 96 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:37.319 of course, Vampire in Brook, A Nightmare on Elm Street, 97 00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:40.920 an incredible work of terror the birth of an eighties 98 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:44.959 icon and a staple of my screens. 99 00:06:43.879 --> 00:06:45.240 For many, many a year. 100 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:50.360 So that was last month, done, dusted, devoured. And now 101 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:53.519 this month, well it's different because we are back at 102 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:56.160 looking at individual years and the horror movies that were 103 00:06:56.199 --> 00:06:59.600 released therein And last month I pulled out the hat 104 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:03.639 nine teen ninety four, the year that Kurt Cobain died. 105 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:06.759 Now I think it's not really even in the general 106 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:10.759 conversation anymore, but the nineties has always had this bad 107 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:13.519 rap for being a stinker of a decade for horror, 108 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:17.000 but a really interesting one for music. And these days 109 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:19.759 it's pretty much deemed to be as good as any other. 110 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:22.519 But there was that long stretch where just people would 111 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:26.800 always give the nineties crap. No need because look, I'm 112 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:28.639 going to be the judge of this. It's my shows 113 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:31.199 what I'm here for. And when we get to the 114 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:33.959 end of all these years, I'll tally up these podcast 115 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:36.279 stats and I'll tell you. I'll tell you what was 116 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:39.560 the worst decade, And if it's the nineties, well then 117 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:42.399 I'll eate my foot. Now for this one, I watched 118 00:07:42.439 --> 00:07:46.879 twenty four horror films altogether. Now that's hardly anything compared 119 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:48.240 to a normal yearly run. 120 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:50.199 But it is what it is. 121 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:53.160 As for the world wide box office bums on seats, 122 00:07:53.240 --> 00:07:56.759 well just check out this top three. At number three 123 00:07:56.959 --> 00:08:00.319 was True Lies with Jamie Lee, Kurtis. 124 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:02.600 And mister Swatsneggar. 125 00:08:02.959 --> 00:08:06.600 And then following that we have number two Tom Hanks 126 00:08:06.680 --> 00:08:10.480 in Forrest Gump. Now that film is a marmite for everyone. 127 00:08:10.600 --> 00:08:13.120 Some people think it's one of the best films ever made. 128 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:16.000 A lot of people think it's total trash. All I'll 129 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:18.399 tell you is whenever I see it, I cry my 130 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:19.959 eyes out from beginning to end. 131 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:21.879 But the number one movie. 132 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:24.240 At the box office, would you believe it, narrowly beating 133 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:29.800 Forest Forest Gump, It was Disney's The Lion King. Was 134 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:31.959 there any horror in that top twenty though, Well there 135 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:36.320 were two things. Jack Nicholson was in The Wolf, of course, 136 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:39.279 of course he was. And then we have Tom Cruise 137 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:42.639 and Brad Pitt and Christian Slater making all the way 138 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:47.360 to the number ten position with Interview with the Vampire. Regardless, 139 00:08:47.559 --> 00:08:51.600 I've been juggling my list

around and let me tell 140 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:55.559 you my top eight is a very tight believe that, 141 00:08:56.039 --> 00:08:58.159 But I mean, come on, it's pretty awful. Only eight 142 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:01.559 films that I could say hand on are essential. It 143 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:05.279 is a pretty slight year ninety four. But what else 144 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:08.639 was going on in ninety four? Well, musically, nineteen ninety four, 145 00:09:08.679 --> 00:09:11.399 as I've already said, was awesome. The very first couple 146 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:14.320 of pages of rat Your Music for what It's Worth 147 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:17.919 give you a very, very awesome overview of what is 148 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:20.720 out there. The ones I recommend and picked from it 149 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:26.440 were Portershaad, Dummy, weez Are, the Blue Album, Pavement, Crooked Rain, 150 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:29.159 Crooked Rain An albums so good they named it twice, 151 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:34.039 Sunny Day, Real Estate's Diary, The Beastly Boys, Ill Communication, 152 00:09:34.559 --> 00:09:38.039 Built to Spill, There's nothing wrong with love Holes, live 153 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:42.159 through This, and of course shell Ac Action Park. But 154 00:09:42.320 --> 00:09:46.159 what was the actual news. Well, here's three things that 155 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:50.440 AI told me happened in South Africa. Nelson Mandela became 156 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:53.879 the nation's very first black president after the end of apartheid. 157 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:57.480 Close to the home, the Channel Tunnel was finished and launched. 158 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:00.559 And I'm going to dump both of these final things together. 159 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:04.000 Is that both pretty tragic? The very first episode of 160 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:09.279 Friends aired and the Rwandan genocide began, so pretty bad. 161 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:15.080 Christ that was the times important and often shocking current events, sure, 162 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:20.279 but not nineteen seventy horror movie podcasting times, right, So 163 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:22.720 how do things work on the show. Well, for those 164 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:26.240 new to the show, here is a sick quick guide 165 00:10:26.480 --> 00:10:29.240 to what a Year in Horror is all about. This 166 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:31.679 is a podcast where I choose a year at random 167 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:34.080 every month, and then I run down my very personal 168 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:37.240 favorite films of that year. It's that easy. That is 169 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:41.120 the podcast in a nutshell. Also, with each episode, I 170 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:45.840 am joined by some outrageously handsome human guests. They help 171 00:10:45.919 --> 00:10:48.399 me sift my way through the most interesting films of 172 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:51.440 the bunch. And for this the nineteen ninety four Big

173 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:54.799 Hitter episode, where we've got a new special guest in 174 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:58.679 the guise of filmmaker Rick Rawlins. Plus, we've got three 175 00:10:58.919 --> 00:11:01.840 regular friends that are podcasts who've come back into the fold. 176 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:07.240 We've got Stephen Hill of the Stupendous True Cult Pop podcast, 177 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:10.840 a staff writer at Metal Hammer magazine as well. We've 178 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:15.399 got fatherm Alone from the Midnight Viewing podcast. Also, we've 179 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:18.840 got author Paul Terry. He's returned after we chatted a 180 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:21.679 load about Cold Check a few months back. And you 181 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:23.840 know what that is going to be a welcome return 182 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:26.759 for all three of those people. So yeah, there we go. 183 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:30.279 I've also just noticed no women. I need to sort 184 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:32.919 that out. But you know that is a pretty cool 185 00:11:32.960 --> 00:11:36.320 collection of well adjusted guys, right, So here we go. 186 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:37.200 We're almost there. 187 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:41.399 My definition of horror is sometimes considered wrong, just plain 188 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:45.480 wrong by those self appointed gatekeepers with a more defined 189 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:48.080 opinion of what makes a horror and actual horror. And 190 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:53.039 sometimes my rather witty and astute and precise takes of 191 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:55.080 what is a horror, well, they make it to the 192 00:11:55.159 --> 00:11:57.240 very high reaches of the chart. So if you are 193 00:11:57.360 --> 00:12:00.720 one of those easily triggered folks, then just be prepared 194 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:03.799 to get rammed up the wrong side by a Ramakin, 195 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:08.720 probably gripped by the mighty Lono from We Belong Dead. Yeah, 196 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:12.039 that might happen. I've just thought, as I'm saying that 197 00:12:12.679 --> 00:12:15.480 Lono also isn't on this show. I need to sort 198 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:18.399 this out more, Lono, I say, I'm going to sort 199 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:21.720 that out asap. Where was I in my little script? 200 00:12:21.320 --> 00:12:24.679 I've lost the point nineteen ninety four. There we go, 201 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:27.679 that's where we are. It was a difficult number one 202 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:30.399 to choose for me. The top four were being shuffled 203 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:32.759 around quite a lot, so be aware when we get 204 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:36.720 there that my number one could be your number four, etc. 205 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:37.279 Etc. 206 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:39.480 And when we make it to the very end of 207 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:41.600 this episode, going to be picking out of a bag 208 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:44.200 at random the very next year that am going to 209 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:48.000 tackle the next month's edition of the show. And you 210 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:51.039 might well be thinking, hang on, Paul, scroll back a 211 00:12:51.039 --> 00:12:54.559 bit twenty four films. You can't call that enough to 212 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:57.200 judge a whole year in horror. You might be right, 213 00:12:57.279 --> 00:12:59.600 But here's the reason. I've got to have some rules 214 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:02.679 to follow to create this show, and the movie needs 215 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:05.279 to score at least three out of five on Letterbox 216 00:13:05.320 --> 00:13:08.279 for me to watch it. And sometimes there's gonna be 217 00:13:08.360 --> 00:13:11.639 exceptions to the rule. And nineteen ninety four it saw 218 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:16.919 the release of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein and Kenneth Branner Atrocity. 219 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:21.519 Right, Well maybe not, but maybe it's always. 220 00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:24.320 Been seemingly looked down upon by the horror community and 221 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:26.960 I'd never seen it. So with Arrow just putting out 222 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:30.480 a four K, me being a newbie to it, well, 223 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:33.399 how can I say no? Even though it only scored 224 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:37.519 two point nine on letterbox. Finally, I'm only a fan. 225 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:41.320 I'm an enthusiast. I am not a scholar of horror. 226 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:44.720 I am a dabbler in this darkness. So for the 227 00:13:44.720 --> 00:13:48.320 most part, I don't watch these things academically. It's an obsession, 228 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:52.519 much like I imagine you have that same obsession. I get 229 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:56.600 excited about this stuff still all the time, month after month. 230 00:13:56.840 --> 00:13:59.240 I can't wait to dig into the next batch. So 231 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:03.440 remember it's all my opinions. It's a list show. If 232 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:05.879 I miss something out that you love, let me know. 233 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:08.840 I really do want to discover the new stuff. Also, 234 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:11.519 if you pick up a great tip from me, why 235 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:15.120 not email us here at the podcast. I'm at A 236 00:14:15.240 --> 00:14:17.559 Year in Horror at gmail dot com. 237 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:18.159 That easy. 238 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:22.600 You can also instagram me I'm at Wallernut Weller letterbox 239 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:26.240 be I'm at Wallernot Weller on there as well. And 240 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:28.159 you know, if you enjoy it, give it a five 241 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:28.840 star review? 242 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:30.879 Why not? I don't know what that does anymore? Does 243 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:32.440 it do anything? I don't know? 244 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:37.440 Are you ready? It's nineteen

ninety four, A Year in Horror, 245 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:50.639 Robert de Niro as the Creation. I mean, it's the Monster, right, 246 00:14:50.840 --> 00:14:55.399 A reanimated corpse who is rejected by humanity and swears revenge. 247 00:14:55.440 --> 00:14:58.360 On the world as a result. Yes, fucking please. 248 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:00.840 Thing is I've been put off watching this film for 249 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:03.639 so many years for a multitude of reasons. But it 250 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:07.360 only took one suggestion from Father Malone to say, yeah, 251 00:15:07.519 --> 00:15:08.919 I'm going to come onto the show and I'm going 252 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:10.919 to chat with you about it for me to go right. 253 00:15:10.919 --> 00:15:13.559 I'm going to put aside my negativity by the arrow 254 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:17.279 four K and holy poopy poop pants, it was proper 255 00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:21.320 worth at Sunshines. Yes, indeed it was. Here is the 256 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:27.279 letterbox synopsis for Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. Victor Frankenstein is a 257 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:30.600 promising young doctor who, devastated by the death of his 258 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:34.679 mother during childbirth, becomes obsessed with bringing back the dead 259 00:15:34.919 --> 00:15:39.039 from death to life. His experiments lead to the creation 260 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:41.840 of a monster, which Frankenstein has put together with the 261 00:15:41.879 --> 00:15:46.960 remains of corpses. It's not long before Frankenstein regrets his actions. 262 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:53.720 They're a passion. You're no limits, but he's obsession. 263 00:15:54.200 --> 00:15:58.279 No one need ever die. 264 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:04.720 You're not boundaries. Francis Ford Corpola presents a classic story 265 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:08.879 of true love. Let Me help You, Terror, Robert de Niro, 266 00:16:09.159 --> 00:16:14.440 kerev Brna, Calina Bottom, Carter, Mary Shelley's Franklin Stone read. 267 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:16.440 And starts Friday, November four, then. 268 00:16:16.279 --> 00:16:17.080 A theater near you. 269 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:21.840 Yes, it's time for the chat ah. Oh yeah, it's myself. 270 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:24.960 It's Father Malone and he is of the most wonderful 271 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:28.679 Patreon channel. That is right, it's patreon dot com forward 272 00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:32.080 slash Father Malone. But if that's not good enough for you, 273 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:35.480 then why don't you type into your local podcast emporium, 274 00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:40.240 podcast searching device, podcast midnight viewing. That's where you're gonna 275 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:43.080 find him. You must prepare to be flawed with the 276 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:47.279 good old fashioned movie tainment, because that's what that man delivers. 277 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:47.720 Here. 278 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:50.559 We are just

about I don't know wenes is coming 279 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:53.879 out two and a half months ago talking all about 280 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:56.840 Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. 281 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:08.079 Father alone. Hello, good afternoon, evening whatever. I don't know someone, Yeah, 282 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:09.440 not that early though. 283 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:13.079 Well, this oddly will come. I think this comes out 284 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:16.240 before the one we've already recorded for Wes Craven. So 285 00:17:16.359 --> 00:17:23.039 that's interesting. But this film I had dedicated previously in 286 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:27.000 my life zero time too, never seen it before, never 287 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:31.200 cared and there are a few reasons behind it. 288 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:33.759 So you've gone for Mary Shelley's. 289 00:17:33.279 --> 00:17:40.039 Frankenstein from ninety four. I'm going to before we get 290 00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:43.599 to this film in particular, I would love to know 291 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:48.839 like your history with Frankenstein, Frankenstein's self, like with regards 292 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:53.960 to maybe the books, maybe other films, like are you 293 00:17:54.039 --> 00:17:55.160 a fan of Frankenstein. 294 00:17:56.640 --> 00:17:59.720 Yeah, I'm a fan of Bradley what we consider the 295 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:04.799 universal Monsters, and naturally frank is front and center there. 296 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:09.559 Earliest memories of Frankenstein. My family had an eight millimeter 297 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:13.720 projectory silent projector, and you could buy eight millimeter Little 298 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:17.920 Leader's Digest sort of condensed versions of films, so you 299 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:22.279 would have a fifteen minute version of a three Stooges film, 300 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:24.920 although those were only fifteen minutes anyway, but you get 301 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:28.920 my point. So we had a copy of Frankenstein Versus 302 00:18:28.960 --> 00:18:31.920 the Wolfman, which I got to use to watch like 303 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:34.799 on a wall or a sheet all the time. So 304 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:38.880 that's my earliest memory of him, and that is that's 305 00:18:38.920 --> 00:18:43.319 more of a wrestling movie than it is a horror movie, 306 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:46.519 so he wasn't really scary to me. And then at 307 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:48.480 the same time, because I grew up in the seventies, 308 00:18:48.759 --> 00:18:51.240 so I was watching reruns of The Monsters, which is 309 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:57.039 primarily my main image of Frankenstein is probably Fred Gwynn. 310 00:18:57.160 --> 00:18:59.400 But at the same time it was the groovy Gholies. 311 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:02.480 There is mad Monster Party. It was not a good 312 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:07.960 time to be frightened of frankenstat. I get that. Franken 313 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:12.640 Berry cereal was on every tay, every kitchen table, you 314 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:14.440 know what I mean. He was pretty widered down as 315 00:19:14.440 --> 00:19:18.359 a boogieyman by then. I'll goly give you my top 316 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:23.160 five Frankenstein movies. So at number five from nineteen ninety 317 00:19:23.319 --> 00:19:28.799 I've put Franken Hooker Patty Mullen. I love that film, love. 318 00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:31.039 That film, but it's a weird choice because it's not 319 00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:33.359 Frankenstein's Franken Hooker. But I still had to put it 320 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:37.839 there at number five. Number four, Frankenstein Meets the wolf Man. 321 00:19:38.319 --> 00:19:41.160 I can't believe that was your first foray into that. 322 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:45.720 I watched that a few months ago. I loved it. 323 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:47.960 I absolutely loved it. I couldn't believe that I'd never 324 00:19:47.960 --> 00:19:49.519 seen it before and was like, oh, this is my 325 00:19:49.640 --> 00:19:50.000 first one. 326 00:19:50.079 --> 00:19:54.359 Was amazing. The fucking ice cave stuff, man, that's good stuff. 327 00:19:55.519 --> 00:19:58.680 He disappeared to a k oh, look there's a cave. 328 00:19:58.759 --> 00:20:03.559 He disappeared to this ton. Okay, sure for those of 329 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:05.640 you who need continuity. 330 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:09.920 It's so rubbish, but it's so amazing and I love 331 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:14.559 it for it. So next one Hammer now sixty seven 332 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:16.160 Frankenstein Created Women. 333 00:20:17.920 --> 00:20:20.799 Yes, good, excellent flick. Excellent flick. 334 00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:29.079 Number two Mary Shelley's Frankenstein unbelievable. We'll get into it 335 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:32.359 in a minute. My number one from thirty one Frankenstein 336 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:33.720 Universal Monsters. 337 00:20:35.400 --> 00:20:37.160 I would add a few to that list. 338 00:20:38.279 --> 00:20:40.680 I'm interested in that, so I don't know. I mean 339 00:20:40.799 --> 00:20:42.279 at the end, I'm going to ask you to put 340 00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:45.160 a flick with it for a double bill, but without 341 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:48.960 spoiling that, Like where would you send people for like 342 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:50.559 some cool Frankenstein stuff. 343 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:56.279 I would tell them to check out for performances as Frankenstein. 344 00:20:56.359 --> 00:20:59.519 For the character of Frankenstein. I would tell them to 345 00:20:59.559 --> 00:21:03.079 check out The Bride. That was the film What's Starring 346 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:07.759 unfortunately sting, but it features a performance by Tom Noonan. 347 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:10.000 Oh no, I'm sorry, Clancy Brown, My god, what am 348 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:12.920 I talking about? Tom Nonan plays the monster in the 349 00:21:12.920 -->

00:21:17.799 Monster Squad, but Clancy Brown, the Kurgan from Highlander, plays Victor, 350 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:20.440 the Monster and the Bride. He's fucking fantastic in it, 351 00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:23.559 rocky horror picture show. That's a pretty that's a pretty 352 00:21:23.559 --> 00:21:26.799 good Frankenstein movie. I would encourage everyone to go there 353 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:30.200 and along those lines. My favorite fan of the Paradise 354 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.279 there is a there is a Frankenstein sequence in there. 355 00:21:33.400 --> 00:21:36.759 It's brief, it doesn't really qualify, but my god, it's 356 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:40.559 a phantasma oracle version of the Frankenstein myth and with 357 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:43.799 a great song going absolutely counts. 358 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:47.519 Like yeah, if we're including like Frankenstein makes the Wolfman, 359 00:21:49.240 --> 00:21:50.759 hey see counts? 360 00:21:51.839 --> 00:21:53.160 Okay? Cool? All right? 361 00:21:53.240 --> 00:21:56.559 So which brings us to this film? I've already said that, 362 00:21:57.240 --> 00:22:00.279 like where I rank this one? Like it's so high 363 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:03.119 for me, And I thought a lot of this film 364 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:06.759 was pretty bad as well, but when it shines, it 365 00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:09.920 really shines for me. What about you, like in general 366 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:12.960 with Mary Shirley s Frankenstein, is it something that you. 367 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:19.119 Are into? Like were you ever into this film? I 368 00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:23.599 saw this movie opening day in Century City, California, of course, 369 00:22:24.279 --> 00:22:27.559 and that's this is on the heels. We should say 370 00:22:27.599 --> 00:22:32.720 that this is about a year after Bram Stoker's Dracula 371 00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:37.400 comes out. Francis Ford Coppola's version, which is the superior 372 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:39.440 version of that book as far as I'm concerned, as 373 00:22:39.440 --> 00:22:44.160 far as adaptations. So expectations were high because Francis Ford 374 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:48.400 Coppola and This and James Heart, the screenwriter of Bromstarkers 375 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:52.680 Regular are the executive producers and effectively producers of this film. 376 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:55.960 So what it seemed like was what we're getting is 377 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:59.640 a whole new era of the universal monsters, you know, 378 00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:05.720 and but a literary bent on it. Very excited, very excited. 379 00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:10.319 And on top of that, they've gotten Kenneth browna who, 380 00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:14.400 to a young Boston Irish kid, was a fucking hero 381 00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:17.039 to me after Henry the Fifth. My god, yes, I'll 382 00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:21.359 stand with him. And he's basically following the orson Wells path, 383 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:25.599 so he's starring and writing and directing and just running catering. 384 00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:28.799 I was in love with that fool. So the prospect 385 00:23:28.839 --> 00:23:32.440 of this movie was very My expectations were very high. 386 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:35.440 And then I saw it, and then my expectations were very, 387 00:23:35.559 --> 00:23:39.759 very low. I do not like this movie. I there 388 00:23:39.759 --> 00:23:42.640 are moments in this film that I think are great, 389 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:45.599 there are performances that are great, there's some production stuff, 390 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:48.920 but I remember thinking at the time and then this 391 00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:55.119 was wholly confirmed on the rewatch. Maybe he's just an egomaniac. 392 00:23:57.480 --> 00:23:59.799 When I think of Orson Wells and I think of 393 00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:02.839 the movies he was making and starring it, I never 394 00:24:02.960 --> 00:24:07.599 think he's not talented enough to pull this off. And 395 00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:10.680 I think that several times while watching Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. 396 00:24:10.839 --> 00:24:14.039 Maybe it's miscasting. Maybe he casts the wrong guy in it, 397 00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:17.839 maybe he hired the wrong director. One or the other 398 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:19.440 is out of balance here. 399 00:24:20.200 --> 00:24:22.480 He is the reason why I never went to it 400 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:26.319 like I. You can't imagine how much I hated much 401 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:30.880 ado about nothing. You can't imagine this was totally not me. 402 00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:36.160 I don't want costume, dramay stuff, ruffles, mohusive, tight bodices 403 00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:37.920 that sort of height it. 404 00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:41.160 Can I tell you that I was a projectionist when 405 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:44.400 that movie came out, and I had a trailer for it, 406 00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:49.559 and when we would have parties at the theater after hours, 407 00:24:50.440 --> 00:24:52.400 and I made a loop. There's a moment in the film, 408 00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:54.880 and it's in the trailer where it's a close up 409 00:24:54.880 --> 00:24:57.519 of a masked figure and the mask pulls off and 410 00:24:57.559 --> 00:25:01.319 it's Keanu Reeves looking trying to look really defiant, and 411 00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:03.599 it was really funny but I had a couple of 412 00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:06.119 different trailers, so I was able to splice that moment 413 00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:07.759 and turn it into a loop, so we would have 414 00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:10.400 a party in the theater while Keanu Reeves took his 415 00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:13.240 mask off over and over again for hours on end. 416 00:25:13.880 --> 00:25:16.559 I imagine that was much better than the film. Oh 417 00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:17.599 much better. Certainly. 418 00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:21.759 I hate that stuff, and

like Helena Bond and Carto 419 00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:24.480 is in it all at that time, and like, knowing 420 00:25:24.519 --> 00:25:26.359 she was in there, I do you know what this 421 00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:27.880 is going to be? So and then I saw the 422 00:25:27.960 --> 00:25:31.440 running time and stuff, you know, like when you're pulling out, 423 00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:32.559 like do I want to rent this? 424 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:37.279 And it's like, yeah, oh, certainly scan down to the runtime. Yeah, 425 00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:39.559 if it's ninety minutes, I'll fucking go for it. But 426 00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:48.200 like ninety seven, one hour fifty four not having it? 427 00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:51.279 So yeah, So it comes with that all that baggage, 428 00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:54.319 which is fair enough, my personal baggage that I put 429 00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:57.640 to this film. And I've always been reluctant until you 430 00:25:57.759 --> 00:25:59.920 picked it, and I was like, right, I'm going to 431 00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:01.960 And then I was like, do you know what, let's 432 00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:04.839 get that nice four karrow thing. It's just come out 433 00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:07.799 so I can watch it as good as I possibly can. 434 00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:13.039 And as I mentioned there that I loved a lot 435 00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:15.680 of it, but I really hated a lot of it. 436 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:19.039 And I'm still so unsure of what I feel about 437 00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:22.480 this film and what got me all the time. All 438 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:25.559 the time I was thinking, is this just because it's 439 00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:29.839 a different time night before? But was incest like a 440 00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:31.680 cool thing in the nineties? 441 00:26:31.759 --> 00:26:34.079 Was it a common thing? Was it not looked down upon? 442 00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:38.440 I certainly felt by then we had begun looking down 443 00:26:38.519 --> 00:26:44.880 on incestin in no small fashion. Okay, because I'm confused. 444 00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:48.000 Well now, now, to be fair, a part that's his 445 00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:52.200 adopted sister. It doesn't alleviate anything. It doesn't. We're in 446 00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:55.359 the land of Edgar Allen Poe marrying a fourteen year 447 00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:58.359 old cousin. This is the time frame we're talking about. 448 00:26:58.480 --> 00:27:00.839 I'm not condoning any of it, but no, it adds 449 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:04.799 a weird layer to it. And what's startling to me 450 00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:09.119 is Bromstoker's Dracula. They called it Bromstker's Dracula in an 451 00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:12.160 announcement that this is the first time you're actually going 452 00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:15.799 to see that novel put on screen. So the promise 453 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:18.640 was that's what they're doing here as well. Which is 454 00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:22.880

in no way what they've done. They've made up whole 455 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.640 sections of plot in character, they've borrowed from other films 456 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:29.279 in some cases just it. You guys can do what 457 00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:30.279 you are. 458 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:33.400 That I remember reading a book like when I was 459 00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.200 very young, in fact, I think I was not nine 460 00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:40.480 or ten, but I do remember that it like those bookends, 461 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:45.240 and they're in here, So I do remember that. And 462 00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:50.400 like something that never ever appeared was when they they 463 00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:54.920 he helps like another family or something in secret, and 464 00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:57.480 that was in here, but it was so vague from me. 465 00:27:57.559 --> 00:27:58.240 I couldn't remember. 466 00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:00.440 Was that another book that I'd read because I was 467 00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:03.759 bigin to Ivanhoe and things like that as well at 468 00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:05.079 the time, Like it could have been something in that 469 00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:08.799 I don't know, but no, it turns out it was here, 470 00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:12.319 and I'm glad for that. But like, I haven't gone 471 00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:15.240 through my extras yet. So there's a documentary on that thing, 472 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.319 which is like the differences between the book and and 473 00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:20.000 I think that'll be interesting to go in. 474 00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:22.759 So like where did they stray like terribly? 475 00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:23.039 Here? 476 00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:27.119 The thing is they're not necessarily straying all the time 477 00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:30.440 so much as extrapolating, which is what you do when 478 00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:32.880 you adapt a book into a screenplay, right, you take 479 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:35.359 what you think is the most important section. So what 480 00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:38.599 they've chosen to do here is to focus on the 481 00:28:38.680 --> 00:28:43.039 romance portion of the Frankenstein book, which is the love 482 00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:46.880 between him and Elizabeth, which is mentioned in the book, 483 00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:49.799 and she's more of a prop than anything in the book, 484 00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:52.079 and then consequently in the film, although they've tried to 485 00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:56.000 pump up her character and their romance, the problem is 486 00:28:56.839 --> 00:28:59.759 it is the flattest romance. I do not care. The 487 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:04.960 characters don't care for each other. It's so melodramatically produced. 488 00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:11.480 It's all stirring music and unearned. There's not even any passion. 489 00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:13.440 These two were fucking at the time, and there's just 490 00:29:13.559

--> 00:29:18.839 nothing on screen that turns yeah, man, yeah man. Helena 491 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:22.359 Bonham Carter professional home wrecker. So yeah. At the time, 492 00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:26.279 Brian is married to Emma Thompson cast Helena bonm Carter 493 00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:28.400 in this and they hook up while they're making this movie. 494 00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:31.880 Helen Bonham Carter moves on. Remember Lisa Marie, Remember the 495 00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:35.000 Martian and the Martian woman in Mars Attacks. Okay, so 496 00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:38.319 they do. Tim Burton does Planet of the Apes. Lisa 497 00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:40.119 Marie is in Planet of the apes as one of 498 00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:43.759 the chimpanzee ladies, but the main chimpanzee is Helena Bonham 499 00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:47.359 Carter who breaks them up and takes and now, yeah, 500 00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:50.200 that's called zero chemistry on the screen. That is insane. 501 00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:56.480 Zero chemistry, man like negative, Like they've chosen to focus 502 00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:58.680 on an aspect of the book that is barely there 503 00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:02.680 and unnecessary to the plot of this fucking movie. And 504 00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:05.519 these two people who are actually in an affair are 505 00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:08.200 just like, Oh, you can tell why it didn't last. 506 00:30:09.400 --> 00:30:13.119 You have blown my mind with that. I can't believe that. 507 00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:17.839 It's like they hate each other, like in real life, 508 00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:20.519 that's what it feels like. And it's like we've contracted 509 00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:23.160 in to do this now and that's the total opposite. 510 00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:27.000 I'm stunned. Wow. They Yeah, you know what's funny is 511 00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.599 the way they interact and just went the way they kiss, 512 00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.400 it makes it reinforces the brother and sister of it. 513 00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:36.160 Oh, there is a holy shit moment in this film 514 00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:41.640 for me, and it is when the romance hopefully is 515 00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:43.759 finished at some point. 516 00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:47.240 And then we it never finishes, God damn it. 517 00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:50.599 We get a sort of fade a black and then 518 00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:52.759 we open up and we're in a sort of grotty 519 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:56.119 alley way, and there is a de Niro as the 520 00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:01.759 monster just you know, cowder like you know, and I 521 00:31:01.799 --> 00:31:04.000 was just like, oh, hang on, that's good. 522 00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:06.720 I like that, and. 523 00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:09.519 Every single step of the way for a good chunk 524 00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:11.799 of this film. At this point, I was like, this 525 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:14.640 is the best Frankenstein stuff I've ever seen.

I was 526 00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:19.720 so I was loving everything within that moment. But I 527 00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:23.319 don't know how a film can fire so flatly, like 528 00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:26.720 almost flatlining, Like I didn't know how we were going 529 00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:28.440 to talk about this film at all. 530 00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:30.839 How are we going to do it? 531 00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:32.640 And then that kicks in, and then we get to 532 00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:36.359 that family, as I mentioned, and I'm like, what's going 533 00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:40.160 to happen here? I'm really invested. Is it impressive to you? Like, 534 00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:42.920 as I say, I loved it, It's fine if you think, 535 00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:45.240 oh man, that was pretty rubbish as well, but like, 536 00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:47.559 where would you go with like that moment, my holy 537 00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:48.039 shit moment? 538 00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:52.039 Where would you rate that? That's when the movie comes alive. Actually, 539 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:55.119 what I remember that I liked about the film initially 540 00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:58.480 was the stuff with the monster, And then watching it 541 00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:02.039 again last night, I really love the stuff with the monster. 542 00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:05.920 And now I'm convinced we were robbed of a much 543 00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:10.920 better film that focused on the monster and his dealing 544 00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:15.119 with the world, because he's always been a pitiful figure 545 00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:18.759 as a character. He did not ask to be this 546 00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:22.960 thing and does not understand his place or anything and 547 00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:26.000 has to find his way. And this is now what 548 00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:28.000 I did like about what we were saying, Like, this 549 00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:33.200 sort of sequence of the monster learning is very rarely, 550 00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:36.039 if ever shown, where we get to see how he 551 00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:39.720 came to speak and how he got up vocabulary. In fact, 552 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.599 it should have been longer that he should have spent 553 00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:45.440 more time with this family. They added the blind Man. 554 00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:48.359 Now the blind Man is a character from Brian or Frankenstein, 555 00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:50.480 and now he keeps showing up in all these verses 556 00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.079 of Frankenstein. But let's not kid ourselves. He's not in 557 00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:56.160 the novel. But if we're going to include him, why 558 00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:59.240 aren't they friends for a good portion of this film 559 00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:02.480 before the other family find out that the dad's new 560 00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:05.119 friend is a fucking monster and beat him up. No, 561 00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:08.599 I don't beat him off, but you know what I mean, I'll. 562 00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:12.319 Take it like that is key and I in all 563 00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:15.599 it was getting chills at various moments where like because 564 00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:17.759 I hadn't seen it before on film, like where he's 565 00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:21.160 peeking through and he's learning about love because of the 566 00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:24.279 relationship between the mum and the dad in the family, 567 00:33:24.720 --> 00:33:27.039 and like about how they treat their children, and like 568 00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:31.559 this is an alien concept to him, and it felt 569 00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:31.920 so good. 570 00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:33.279 And when he's trying to mouth. 571 00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:36.200 Words together, and I was just like, I was so 572 00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.599 impressed with what I was watching, and I did a 573 00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:42.720 foolish thing halfway through is I read a few reviews 574 00:33:43.559 --> 00:33:46.920 and it said that a common quite a common trait 575 00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:50.720 within them was that de Niro was miscast. Now, you 576 00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:54.319 mentioned something about being missed. A couple of people miscast earlier. 577 00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:58.319 Only one, only one, No, only Kenneth Brown has miscast 578 00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:02.920 in this movie. I think de Niro was. Everyone was 579 00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:05.240 all a buzz when he was cast in the movie, like, 580 00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:07.039 oh my god, what's he going to do with it? Yeah, 581 00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:10.719 he's not miscast in the movie. He's unfortunately got a 582 00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:15.840 bad movie framed around him. And we're not given enough 583 00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:18.880 of this guy that we're not given enough of this 584 00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:26.159 the creature who finds joy in doing good for this family, 585 00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:30.280 for helping them. We don't get enough of this monster 586 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:33.039 who for the I think for the first time cinematically, 587 00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:36.960 whenever they've gone to include the character of a bride 588 00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:40.519 character he does demand it in the novel, but this 589 00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:44.559 is the only time it isn't completely creepy from the 590 00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:47.000 get go. It always comes off as I want to mate, 591 00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:52.039 give me a girl, whereas this is the monster recognizing 592 00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:58.480 that in a family there is satisfaction in peace and acceptance, 593 00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:01.639 and that's what he needs. So that's what he's asking for. 594 00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:04.599 Not give me a mate, but give me a companion please, 595 00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.679 And that sings in this movie. And Danira pulls all 596 00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:12.119 that off. Man when they

finally run him off, and 597 00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:15.920 he's just bawling like a child, Like, who can't feel 598 00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:18.800 bad for him? Man, tell me that's a bad performance. 599 00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:19.920 What are you out of your minds? 600 00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:23.800 Yeah, I think I think it's Stella, Like I couldn't believe. 601 00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:25.960 There was a moment where he pulled like from the 602 00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:29.320 frozen ground, like it was pulling turnips out for the family, 603 00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:31.639 And as I said, I was getting tills and like, 604 00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:33.920 it's so rare that you are in love with a 605 00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:36.599 film at that moment, And that was one of them 606 00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:39.199 that the music swelling and stuff and like I think 607 00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:42.480 it's because he didn't expect anything back. He just wanted 608 00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:44.920 to help them because they're helping him and they don't 609 00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:46.400 even realize they're helping him. 610 00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:47.760 It's just such a. 611 00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:50.960 Great moment, and it's like it makes me like love 612 00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:53.800 discovering things that I've poo pooed in the past. 613 00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:55.519 So yeah, I don't know. 614 00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:57.320 I just felt so good watching that, and then I 615 00:35:57.400 --> 00:35:59.800 just thought to myself, right, what is this. 616 00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:00.960 Film got to offer now? 617 00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:03.599 So we've got the I would say that the ship 618 00:36:03.719 --> 00:36:05.760 met out the way, but we've got all the romance 619 00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:07.679 stuff that that's not going to come back. 620 00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:11.039 I wouldn't do that because we heaven for a fen 621 00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:13.599 that they bring that back over and over it and 622 00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:17.599 refocus the entire movie for a portion. But I was 623 00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:20.480 sad John Claese is gone. Don't you wish that that 624 00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:24.079 had been like his Igor character, like that has been 625 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:27.519 his assistant. Instead, what they've done is, see here's a 626 00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:30.960 book changed from the book. The Henry Clairval character, the 627 00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:33.519 Tom Holt's character. He's a good performance in it too. 628 00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:36.719 Is he's trying to provide the comic relief, straining mightily 629 00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:39.719 against this script to provide the comic relief. But he's 630 00:36:40.039 --> 00:36:43.559 Victor's childhood friend. He never leaves Geneva and then eventually 631 00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:48.400 the monster kills him when in the book, So I 632 00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:52.039 know they added it added him to the the ingelestatt 633 00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:56.079 section of the movie, but just so Branna has somebody 634 00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:58.239 to talk to, but they had the perfect guy to 635 00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:01.000 talk to. Let's continue talk about junklies, but I want 636 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:03.639 to talk about the main problem with the Victor Frankenstein 637 00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:07.039 character and as he's characterized here. 638 00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:10.920 After all I wanted to say about the John Clee 639 00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:14.159 thing is that he was the ray of light in 640 00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.800 the whole romance bit where we kept going to him 641 00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:19.400 and he it was like, oh, okay, so he's going 642 00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.440 to be the guy that takes him under his wing 643 00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:24.519 and we're going to get to learn from him. There's 644 00:37:24.559 --> 00:37:27.320 going to be some monologues going on. It just feels 645 00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:29.679 cut off before. And I've just come from watching the 646 00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:34.559 Life of Brian as well, so instantly, you know, it's 647 00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:36.599 fresh in my mind. I know it is capable of 648 00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:38.800 got all those great memories from him, and here he's 649 00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:41.360 not playing to type at all. And I was just 650 00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:44.039 really enjoying it and like to get as I say, 651 00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:48.679 like an anti VAXXA just doing away with him fair enough, 652 00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:52.880 like with today's knowledge, Like that's an interesting way to go. 653 00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:55.360 But I could have done with him and the rest 654 00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:59.039 of the film for sure. Yeah. I First of all, 655 00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:01.960 he looks remarkably like Billy Connolly in this film for 656 00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:04.599 some reason, with that wig. I'll try. I kept thinking 657 00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.840 it was Billy Connolly on occasion. But Coleice Alalys seemed 658 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:12.719 like the darkest member of the Pythons, if that's possible. 659 00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:15.440 Some others might have shown it more. But there's just 660 00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:20.920 something deeply disturbed about him, and so having to having 661 00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:25.199 that come out a bit is really enjoyable. In fact, 662 00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:26.639 like when he gets to the end, like there's a 663 00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:29.800 moment right before a transition where he lowers his voice 664 00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:33.280 and they were abomin nations and it's like, oh boy, 665 00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:35.679 I can't wait for more of this guy. Oh no, no, no, 666 00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:37.920 we're just gonna shuffle him out here. We're gonna shuffle 667 00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:39.519 him out of here because of the main problem with 668 00:38:39.559

--> 00:38:43.079 the movie is Kenneth Brana is a fucking megalomaniac. Let's 669 00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:43.960 talk about it then. 670 00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:48.440 So the other thing in the reviews, okay, was Kenneth 671 00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:51.679 Branna shouting like instead of like acting his way through it. 672 00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:55.079 He decided to shout his way through several scenes. Now 673 00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:57.599 that was the worst I could pick. I could think 674 00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:00.159 of a few other things to say about him. The 675 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:00.719 issue with he. 676 00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:04.880 Made you think, I think, Okay, I think in each 677 00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:10.679 of his movies he cultivated and then bristled against the 678 00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:13.840 sort of Orson Wells comparison, like the sort of boy 679 00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:16.639 genius does it all kind of thing. So when it 680 00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:20.159 came to this movie, he has to look back at 681 00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:24.760 all the different performances of Victor Frankenstein up until then, 682 00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:27.159 and he has to find a lane that hasn't been 683 00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:30.199 done and he has to commit to it. And meanwhile, 684 00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:35.000 newly fit Kenneth Branna because he's Hollywood eyes. Now he's 685 00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:38.280 done dead again by now? And did he do much 686 00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:41.639 to do about nothing but it probably yeah, yeah, So 687 00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:44.760 he decided to make this an ode to his physique 688 00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:50.320 and make this a muscular Victor Frankenstein instead of the shivering, 689 00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:56.400 barely sunlit lab dweller or the jibbering maniac. He was 690 00:39:56.440 --> 00:40:01.960 going to make him a football start. I mean, the 691 00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:04.280 let me okay, we'll get more of this, but I 692 00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:06.000 do want to say that my main problem with the 693 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:09.440 characterization of Victor Frankensteinire is he wants him to be 694 00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:14.800 the completely obsessed maniac, the character who needs to conquer 695 00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:18.639 death or create life more to the point, but he 696 00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:22.679 also wants it to be happy and romantic. So we 697 00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:25.320 get the death of his mother, which is the kickoff 698 00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:29.119 point in the novel and points to why he's doing 699 00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:31.000 this to begin with. I think he doesn't want anyone 700 00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:35.159 to die. But that shift in character means that he 701 00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:38.480 is now deeply wounded and flawed and obsessed with one 702 00:40:38.519 --> 00:40:41.440 thing and one thing only, and he becomes dissociated from 703 00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:44.000 his town. Like in the

book that he leaves and 704 00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:46.559 they don't hear from him anymore, and he's just fucking 705 00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:50.039 focused on his business. But here they want to cultivate 706 00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:53.280 the romance, so he's still I mean, we find out 707 00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:55.840 he's not writing letters, but we're made to think he is, 708 00:40:56.079 --> 00:41:00.800 and it distracts from everything, and it makes his character like, 709 00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:04.719 you can't be fucking bouncy and tortured. It just doesn't work. 710 00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:09.119 It's such a shame. There is too much naked Kenneth, 711 00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:13.280 you know. I feel like it's a you know, when 712 00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:16.559 dads discover Instagram and then then get all buff. 713 00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:17.719 It's like that. 714 00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:23.079 It's like it's like, yeah, I might be divorced, but 715 00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:26.079 look what I can do. It's got that sort of 716 00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:30.239 vibe to it. But it's so melodramatic. It's so every 717 00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:33.559 single thing that he does isn't just done as it 718 00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:40.039 would be. Everything has to be important, and yeah, if 719 00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:43.199 you were focused on this one thing, like that's what 720 00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:46.119 you would be focused on, you'd become a nerd within yourself, 721 00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:46.760 you know you would. 722 00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:48.440 You would be like, right, I'm going to do this. 723 00:41:48.519 --> 00:41:50.960 I'm going to do this properly. And I don't. I 724 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:56.039 don't ever feel that. I just don't. It's so wild wild. Yeah, 725 00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:59.960 let's face it that he's decided that the birth sequence 726 00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:03.639 is going to be him fucking the monster into life. 727 00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:08.920 It's him disrobed and running and grunting and pulling chains 728 00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:12.480 that make logs slam into other things and bodies swinging 729 00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:17.000 around and then dumped into a vat of amnionic fluid. 730 00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:20.400 Now they make a point to show us in some 731 00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:24.639 sort of workhouse medico situation, a woman giving birth and 732 00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:28.880 a spittoon of some sort catching all the amniotic fluid 733 00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:32.960 so later when we see that tank and it's filled 734 00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:35.440 to the brim, and you know that Paul, you, me 735 00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:38.920 and everyone could get into that fucking tank. How long 736 00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:42.719 was he collecting that? Did he have people on staff? 737 00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:46.480 Where's his money coming from? What's going on here? It's 738 00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:50.639 really weird anyway, Yeah, it's so weird. So he makes 739 00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:55.639 it like this thing where Frankenstein golden locked Frankenstein. Let's 740 00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:57.599 not forget that. We're talking a lot about the physique, 741 00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:00.519 but he really frames it all with this giant mane 742 00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:03.519 of a lion hair. You know, he learned from his 743 00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:07.119 actual hero, Laurence Olivier. If you're gonna make the black 744 00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.039 and white movie, make sure you're blonde. You want to 745 00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:13.199 you want all the focus on you. I don't know. 746 00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:16.480 It just ends up being ridiculous him to your point, 747 00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:20.800 shouting instead of it's alive and the joy of it, 748 00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:24.400 he's screaming it into life. He's making it live because 749 00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:25.320 he's so virile. 750 00:43:26.079 --> 00:43:30.880 I think that scene is uh, super gay. I super 751 00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:34.039 enjoyed it. I didn't expect anything like that, you know, 752 00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:39.480 I was expecting like a you know, when there's a homage. 753 00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:41.280 A homage is very good word for it. I was 754 00:43:41.320 --> 00:43:44.039 expecting that and that's not what we got. It's not 755 00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:47.519 at all. It was so gay, and I was like, 756 00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:49.719 I don't know where this is gonna go. 757 00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:53.119 This is electric eels. Let me talk, let's speak to 758 00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:56.280 the phallicness of it all. There's no lightning here. There's 759 00:43:56.320 --> 00:43:59.360 a vat of electric eels that is in a bladder 760 00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:03.400 that is pulsating, and then he hooks up a tube 761 00:44:03.639 --> 00:44:06.000 and sends in the eels. 762 00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:10.320 Yeah, it's a fantastic birthing scene of the monster, but 763 00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:15.559 also absolutely ridiculous. And here's the thing, right that was 764 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:17.159 still in a bit where I'm still uming and a 765 00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:20.280 ring about this whole film, as I say, And it 766 00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:23.280 wasn't enough to get me on board, but it was bizarre. 767 00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:24.559 It was just bizarre. 768 00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:28.440 It took like that de Niro sequence to sort of 769 00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:31.199 get me into this thing, and it really did get 770 00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:34.199 me into it, but it didn't last well. 771 00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:36.480 Can I just say that the end of that scene, 772 00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:40.280 when we finally get the monster with the vat of 773 00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:44.719 viscous fluid that dumps out onto the floor and Frankenstein 774 00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:48.000 comes and just tries to help him stand that scene, 775 00:44:49.559 -->

00:44:52.639 I'm making fun of Branna a lot for his performance here, 776 00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:55.239 but his instinct as a filmmaker there to let that 777 00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:59.119 play because it goes on forever. I think back. I 778 00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:02.360 only saw that Movi be in the theater thirty years ago, 779 00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:06.480 thirty three years ago something, and that's the image that 780 00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:10.199 comes to mind him those two sort of slickly trying 781 00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:14.079 to get up this do this amnionic slide, this naked 782 00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:17.519 oil wrestling moment, the diddy dip, if you will. It's 783 00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:22.480 shocking and disturbing and horrifying and sweet at the same 784 00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:25.559 time because he really is trying to help his creation 785 00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:29.360 here and he hasn't yet rebuked him. I don't know. 786 00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:32.400 Something about that whole image is what makes the whole movie. 787 00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:35.199 If the movie works at all, it's working right here. 788 00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:39.000 In an interview that I watched somewhere on YouTube after 789 00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:42.039 I watch this, he called this film a gothic romance. 790 00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:47.920 He didn't mention horror, no shit, Jesus, But in that 791 00:45:48.119 --> 00:45:50.920 moment it's so gross, like if you were going to 792 00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:56.280 say a pinpoint of horror moment, it's so like cinema, 793 00:45:56.320 --> 00:46:00.440 you know, you'd be like, oh, watching this thing, it 794 00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:02.599 fit that at that moment, it really does feel like 795 00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:05.880 a horror, and it's not your traditional scares or anything 796 00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:06.039 like that. 797 00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:09.800 It's just something that's so sick, and it's revulsion, which 798 00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:12.320 you rarely get in a movie without it just being 799 00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:16.079 gross out. There's something, there's a creeping factor to it 800 00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:19.400 that that gets under your skin, and it's almost by accident. 801 00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:22.000 So maybe that's why it's featured so well, because there's 802 00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:23.960 nothing in the rest of the movie that does a 803 00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:27.719 horror movie. It's all action from there on out. You 804 00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:30.639 can't even have the character sneak up on another character. 805 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:34.079 There are so many moments where you could have easily 806 00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:36.599 crafted a scare in this film, and he's just like, no, 807 00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:38.760 I'll have him jump off a cliff like a fucking 808 00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:42.199 wrestler for some reason. Here, what are you doing? What about? 809 00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:46.880 Like when the monster stitches up the maid, I think 810 00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:50.559 it is for killing the girl, and then a group 811 00:46:50.639 --> 00:46:53.400 a mob finder and then they hang. 812 00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:54.159 Her so they throw off. 813 00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:57.119 Its a really tall building and like the neck crack 814 00:46:57.199 --> 00:47:00.719 and everything. The way that's filmed is so mattterrift rather 815 00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:04.559 than like dumb for a horror scare. So I still 816 00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:07.039 of get where he's going, Like his nose, it's a 817 00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:09.320 gothic romance rather than that, well. 818 00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:11.719 You don't want to live in Geneva, man, that the 819 00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:14.440 townsfolk there are just ready to rite at every fucking moment. 820 00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:19.000 But yeah, you know what's funny is I appreciated that 821 00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:23.559 they accelerated the sequence from the book here where the 822 00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:28.440 maid gets framed for Williams murder. But the thing is 823 00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:34.400 in the book they try her, there's a trial, and 824 00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:39.400 she's sentenced, and then she's hung publicly and Victor does nothing. 825 00:47:39.880 --> 00:47:42.079 He just stands because he doesn't want people to know 826 00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:44.840 that it was his creation that actually did this. And 827 00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:47.000 then that guilt is part of the part of the 828 00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:50.119 escalating guilt that he feels, and it just gets getting 829 00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:52.760 worse because it just keeps coming and coming and coming 830 00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:55.880 for him. But he's not interested in that. He's interested 831 00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:59.239 in the romance part of it. And this annoyance of 832 00:47:59.280 --> 00:47:59.880 a character. 833 00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:02.760 You mentioned this the sort of like the way they 834 00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:05.880 fastly go through the book, and it feels like to 835 00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:09.719 me and I can't remember the book very well, but 836 00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:12.920 there's certain things that we know when you close your eyes, 837 00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:15.840 like oh, I think there was like a snowy mountains 838 00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:18.599 and stuff, and there they are, but like it goes 839 00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:21.880 so fast through all these things, like it becomes an 840 00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:24.639 epic adventure where he then goes off to find the 841 00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:28.960 monster and you know, we're in like snow snowcap mountains 842 00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:31.199 and things, and then the next scene that they're talking 843 00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:33.199 in a cave and then the next scene is it 844 00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:37.679 all happens so fast it's crazy for me that like, 845 00:48:37.800 -->

00:48:38.960 what's happened. 846 00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:40.880 To this film? Yeah, you know what's funny? Okay, So 847 00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:43.639 I don't know the work of Steph Lady all that much, 848 00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:46.039 but I do know Frank Darebyn's work, and he should 849 00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:50.320 have motherfucking known better because structurally this movie is so 850 00:48:50.880 --> 00:48:55.360 concerned with and I think this is owing to the 851 00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:58.599 bram Stokers Dracula of but all, it's so concerned with 852 00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:01.159 telling the aspects of the book that hadn't been told 853 00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:06.440 before as a novelty that it ends up overstuffed, so 854 00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:10.079 we end up skimping on things that we need, which 855 00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:13.960 it's so busy jumping scene to scene to plot point 856 00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:17.840 to plot point that you know, Yeah, in the book, 857 00:49:18.440 --> 00:49:21.400 Victor is searching in the mountains for the monster and 858 00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:23.119 then they end up in his cave and then they 859 00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:27.960 have a conversation. But like we we don't look when 860 00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:31.639 the monster showed up at the manor and said, I'll 861 00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:34.000 meet you on the frozen sea, and then okay, so 862 00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:36.599 then we've got a scene of him fucking mountain climbing, 863 00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:38.159 and then we've bet in the tax scene, and then 864 00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:40.400 he's got to wake up and slowly come to and 865 00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:44.480 now we're in the cave. He's standing there. Right then, Victor, 866 00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:48.440 I need a mate. I'm going to keep killing people 867 00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:50.360 until you give me a mate to have the conversation 868 00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:53.280 right that. Why did we need that sequence other than 869 00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:56.599 here's what happened to the book, y'all, and nobody's done this, 870 00:49:56.719 --> 00:49:57.400 and I'm going to do. 871 00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:01.519 It, and I did mention I'm at the beginning of it, 872 00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:04.480 and I don't want a really long film. I just 873 00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:06.559 don't like it until I'm in a film that I'm 874 00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:08.559 really enjoying. Then I just wanted to go on forever. 875 00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:13.360 But it felt like a cheat to just like skip 876 00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:16.400 so quickly, like that whole sequence, which should have been 877 00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:20.679 like twenty minutes or something like maybe five. Maybe, you know, 878 00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:23.719 It's just I thought it was crazy the way we 879 00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:24.719 just did that. 880 00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:26.800 The entire lead up to them in the cave, and 881 00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:30.679 conversation should have been spent in conversation, because when de 882 00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:35.840 Niro is telling him his woes, I'm very locked in. 883 00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:38.239 People who said he's miscast, by the way, I want 884 00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:40.480 to reiterate, are idiots. He's great here. 885 00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:46.519 I only ever hear de Niro's voice one time, one time, 886 00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:49.920 and it's weird when it slipped through, and it is 887 00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:55.119 in that is in that monologue. It just slips once. 888 00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:58.119 But how I mean, with that voice, how can you 889 00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:02.599 help it right? But I just say, it's so convincing. 890 00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:05.320 I'm so convinced he is the monster. Although and I 891 00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:09.880 want to get to something about it. The makeup design 892 00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:13.440 doesn't make sense. Nope, it's not very good. 893 00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:17.199 It's once again, just as Broano was, I'm going to 894 00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:21.559 do muscular, athletic Victor Frankenstein. We have to not in 895 00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:23.880 any way do what they've done before with this monster, 896 00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:27.000 which is very limiting. It's been done. The character has 897 00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:32.400 been drawn and sculpted and makeuped over sixty years by now, 898 00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:36.119 seventy eighty years by now. So yeah, you got to 899 00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:39.559 do something different, but maybe just make it scary because 900 00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:41.639 he needs to be scary. As it is, it looks 901 00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:45.079 like a man who was involved in an accident. Yeah, 902 00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:49.079 the townspeople's reactions to him are Yeah, little children would 903 00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:53.679 point and cry, certainly, and people would have some yeah, 904 00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:56.400 of course, and people would have some rude things to say. 905 00:51:56.440 --> 00:51:58.280 But it wouldn't be like, oh my god, it's a monster. 906 00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:01.840 If you saw born Karlov coming down the street, yeah, 907 00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:10.559 you're gonna run, Christopher leaven and I wouldn't also, you know, 908 00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:12.039 we'd be like, come on, dude, let's go. 909 00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:16.960 I'm just going out on the time with you. But 910 00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:19.639 at the same time, and they do it again with 911 00:52:20.519 --> 00:52:22.320 Boncar spoilers at the end. 912 00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:23.400 They do it with. 913 00:52:23.360 --> 00:52:25.519 Her at the end where there was no reason for 914 00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:30.400 the cuts on the face to be stitched up. Because 915 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:32.559 there's no reason for the cuts to be on the face. 916 00:52:33.880 --> 00:52:36.360 It's no. They tried to do this thing

where they 917 00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:40.239 light her head on fire and then we want those burns, 918 00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:42.239 but we don't because we want her to be monstrous, 919 00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:44.840 and the only way to be monstrous is stitching. But 920 00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:49.000 they light they lit her head on fire, they've melted 921 00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:52.639 her face. She's not looking great. I think that'll do 922 00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:55.960 it right, Yeah, but oh no, let's stitch up an eye. 923 00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:59.079 We haven't seen that before, Like, how about make her sexier? 924 00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:01.079 How about that go on all the way? It makes 925 00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:04.360 it seem like something we haven't seen dead after fucking Bardess. 926 00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:10.119 Very very annoying because I mean, you said it. There 927 00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:13.400 are so many things in this film that could be 928 00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:18.519 the best ever Frankenstein film for me, and it just 929 00:53:18.639 --> 00:53:21.800 fails at certain moments that are like, Wow, why did 930 00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:24.119 you do that? I don't understand why you did. It 931 00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:26.519 was unnecessary to do it, but they did. 932 00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:26.920 Well. 933 00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:29.400 I want to look at this bit of my note 934 00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:31.440 because I don't know why I've said it. Oh I do. 935 00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:34.800 It's the mountains. I got extremely angry in my notes 936 00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:36.920 when he was in the mountains. It's like, why are 937 00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:40.880 we here? Two minutes ago he was at home, Like this. 938 00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:44.400 Is too quick. Now we'll go to the Alps for 939 00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:49.159 some reason? What walk we can? I tell you the 940 00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:52.960 scariest part of this movie, please, The fucking staircase in 941 00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:59.800 Frankenstein manor that railingless giant staircase in the house, terrifying. 942 00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:04.199 Imagine walking in night and go I gotta go down 943 00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:09.840 and get a sandwich and waa another one. When are 944 00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:11.159 we getting a railing Papa? 945 00:54:11.599 --> 00:54:13.960 That I've made a note of it because I was 946 00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:16.400 it was the best thing about the first forty minutes 947 00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:19.760 I thought was that staircase agreed. There was a moment 948 00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:23.360 where they have a row and Bonco runs up it 949 00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:25.320 and like she's like, wow, this could be a long 950 00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:26.760 scene and it fights out. 951 00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:33.239 It fights out on her. They had to. I think overall, 952 00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:35.559 the production design in this movie is beautiful. I thought 953 00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:38.760 they did a great job. The costumes are fucking fantastic. 954 00:54:38.760 --> 00:54:41.599 They're a little too cost to me, a little two 955 00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:44.760 sometimes it looks like they were just made. But I 956 00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:48.679 will say, of if there's a problem with Frankenstein's makeup, 957 00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:50.880 there's no problem with that great cloak that they put 958 00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:55.280 him in. That's fantastic looking and menacing as hell. Costumes 959 00:54:55.320 --> 00:54:59.239 overall really great. My problem with it is that Branna 960 00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:02.360 is going for He wants it to be grubby and 961 00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:06.239 gross because the times were grubby and gross. But he's 962 00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:10.960 so hung up on melodramatic epic that he can't get 963 00:55:10.960 --> 00:55:13.159 out of his own way. He shoots this movie like 964 00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:17.679 he would eventually shoot his version of Hamlet. It's very 965 00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:24.159 softly focused in lit in places, so even when they're 966 00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:26.920 like rolling around in the dirt in the alleyways. It 967 00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:31.199 doesn't look all that, it doesn't look unsanitary. It looks 968 00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:33.679 like they're gonna wash that off because they're actors in 969 00:55:33.719 --> 00:55:34.159 a movie. 970 00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:38.320 Yeah, even when he is in the shed next to 971 00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:42.039 the pig sty, like he's literally living in a pig sty, 972 00:55:42.760 --> 00:55:44.559 it seems all right. It seems like, well, that's the 973 00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:46.840 best time that you know, he's ever going to have 974 00:55:47.840 --> 00:55:53.000 in fact, in his sorry life. So yeah, I don't know, 975 00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:55.519 And we've got it. Before we finish this, we need 976 00:55:55.559 --> 00:56:00.199 to mention the ending. This film's bookended, much like the 977 00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:04.119 book is book nded. Yes, so with regards to it, 978 00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:08.559 we've got different set of characters. We're on an expedition 979 00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:10.840 to find I think it was a north Pole. I 980 00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:15.840 think that's where we're going, and they come across Frankenstein 981 00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:20.679 and the monster. Now I know how cynical it was 982 00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:22.800 to put it all in there, like because he wanted 983 00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:24.280 to do things that hadn't been seen before. 984 00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:25.360 But I really liked it. 985 00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:27.800 I liked the whole idea of that, and I've got 986 00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:31.960 nothing against it, no problem with it at all. In fact, 987 00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:36.119 rather enjoyed the way that was done. So I'm okay 988 00:56:36.159 --> 00:56:39.440 with it again.

With the reviews, a few people were 989 00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:41.880 saying it's unnecessary and I wouldn't mention it unless it 990 00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:43.559 was if it was one, But there was a few 991 00:56:43.559 --> 00:56:45.960 people saying it was a bit like just added on 992 00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:47.599 to pad out the running time. 993 00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:50.199 And I don't see that. I'm sort of I don't 994 00:56:50.199 --> 00:56:52.360 feel one way or another about it. Like I did 995 00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:58.159 appreciate seeing it portrayed. I just think it fumbles the 996 00:56:58.199 --> 00:57:02.360 ball in the scared department because being trapped on this 997 00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:06.280 ship in the ice and this madman climbs aboard and 998 00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:10.239 now there's a monster out there that wants him. What 999 00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:13.559 a potent setup for the rest of this movie while 1000 00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:17.239 he's telling the tale, Yes, as the monster is getting 1001 00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:20.360 more and more crew members just because it wants this guy. 1002 00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:23.480 Like it could have been fucking great. But what we 1003 00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:25.360 get is him just it is a book end. It's 1004 00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:28.039 here's my story and then at the end, don't do 1005 00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:28.639 what I did. 1006 00:57:29.639 --> 00:57:35.199 Okay, we do get an iconic sort of it's almost 1007 00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:38.760 like a painting of the monster's death, and like, I 1008 00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:42.199 really did enjoy that, and I wrote, Okay, that looks iconic. 1009 00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:45.960 I like that we're talking about the bonfire yeah. Yeah, 1010 00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:49.079 we're talking about like what they call it, like a 1011 00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:52.920 pire a funeral. Yeah, so I like that, and like 1012 00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:57.000 the whole way like that that's his like father and burning, 1013 00:57:57.039 --> 00:57:59.719 and then he's burning within it as well, and just like, 1014 00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:03.719 oh man, that looks good, okay, and then it's sort 1015 00:58:03.719 --> 00:58:06.960 of as it finished. It just left me so conflicted 1016 00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:10.400 about what i'd seen because those moments that I enjoyed, 1017 00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:12.960 I didn't just enjoy. I enjoyed it like it's my 1018 00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:17.440 favorite ever film enjoyment. I loved certain moments, But I've 1019 00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:20.639 never had that experience with a film that just pissed 1020 00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:22.840 me off so many times. 1021 00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:26.679 It's the weirdest experience. It's a complicated film in that 1022 00:58:26.760 --> 00:58:30.320 regard because it is so clumsy for so long, but 1023 00:58:30.360 --> 00:58:34.199 then when it shines, it really shines. The moments that 1024 00:58:34.239

--> 00:58:37.360 I've mentioned that I really enjoyed I were magnified a 1025 00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:40.440 thousand times on the rewatch. So I understand what you're saying. 1026 00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:43.599 It's a bad movie, though, Paul, don't kid yourself. It's 1027 00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:46.920 number two next to the original the OG. No, Well, 1028 00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:50.000 you are so wrong. I hear you popping off about 1029 00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:51.639 stuff all the time. We're not even going to bring 1030 00:58:51.719 --> 00:58:54.960 up Young Frankenstein right now. But now you've just gone 1031 00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:58.559 too far by even putting this in your top five. 1032 00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:03.119 Frank and Stein should be on your list before this movie. 1033 00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:10.599 Ow day, Okay, I will try Young Frankenstein again, though, 1034 00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:15.000 because I think it's my most common email that I 1035 00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:16.599 get is people just tell me I'm wrong. 1036 00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:20.760 So because you are. This is just two ways about it. 1037 00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:24.880 I mean, but Father Malone, where are you gonna take 1038 00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:26.519 us for a double bill? 1039 00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:30.599 Where's it going for? You stole Franken Hooker from me, 1040 00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:33.480 so I'm not gonna go there. Although that's a natural 1041 00:59:33.599 --> 00:59:35.599 that movie has a problem just because it has that 1042 00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:38.719 goomba character, that fucking guy who showed up in a 1043 00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:41.840 bunch of trauma movies for two seconds, that which which 1044 00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:44.679 admittedly is a character you've never seen in a horror 1045 00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:49.000 movie before the what is this ship? What's doing over there? Monster? 1046 00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:51.079 Or what? We haven't really seen that guy. I guess 1047 00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:53.599 we did back in the Dead End Kids days of 1048 00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:57.880 the anyway, So not Franken Hooker. But I based on 1049 00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:04.199 the characterization of the monster how he's presented dramatically here, 1050 01:00:04.239 --> 01:00:06.119 which I think is the best part of the movie, 1051 01:00:06.159 --> 01:00:10.119 I would recommend not a movie, but a television series 1052 01:00:10.639 --> 01:00:14.480 that would be Penny Dreadful, where it's basically a monster 1053 01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:17.679 mash team up thing where that we've were mixing and 1054 01:00:18.119 --> 01:00:22.079 matching all of the Victorian horror characters. There is a 1055 01:00:22.239 --> 01:00:25.679 Mina Harker character, and a there's a Wolfman and a 1056 01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:29.519 Dracula and Frankenstein. There's a Victor Frankenstein who is the 1057 01:00:29.519 --> 01:00:33.400 more sort of drug addicted ready portrayal of what he 1058 01:00:33.400 --> 01:00:36.960 would probably actually be like. And the monster, on the 1059 01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:41.159 other hand, is fucking fantastic and just as soulful and 1060 01:00:41.199 --> 01:00:46.079 as vicious and unpredictable as he would actually be. I think, 1061 01:00:46.199 --> 01:00:49.079 if you want the true Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, take a 1062 01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:52.519 step outside that book entirely and check out what they 1063 01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:55.639 were doing on Penny Dreadful for two seasons. It's fucking phenomenal. 1064 01:00:56.199 --> 01:00:57.840 So I found that. 1065 01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:01.400 In a in this country it's called pound Land for 1066 01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:04.880 both seasons. I got it for a pound So yeah, 1067 01:01:05.159 --> 01:01:08.159 I love that. And it was because I watched episode 1068 01:01:08.320 --> 01:01:10.760 three I think it was, and I found it like, 1069 01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:14.719 oh hello, like what's this and then I've never watched it. 1070 01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:16.639 It's just sitting there gathering dust. 1071 01:01:17.639 --> 01:01:22.119 Oh my no continue continue. In fact, when what they'll 1072 01:01:22.159 --> 01:01:24.800 eventually get to it spoilers everybody. But this is only 1073 01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:27.400 sort of sauce for the Goose. I think we get 1074 01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:32.079 to meet the monster before we go flashbacks to his 1075 01:01:32.159 --> 01:01:38.000 life prior to dying and becoming the monster, and interactions 1076 01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:40.559 with other characters on the show that we did not 1077 01:01:40.760 --> 01:01:44.079 know they had any interaction at all. It's really fascinating. 1078 01:01:44.199 --> 01:01:47.320 It's really good. And I cannot remember the actor's name 1079 01:01:47.400 --> 01:01:49.400 right now, but I know he's the son of a 1080 01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:52.079 famous other actor and ah, it's killing me. 1081 01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:55.920 Nevertheless, he's really good. The final thing with it, how 1082 01:01:55.920 --> 01:02:00.400 long is this two seasons? Is it like like a 1083 01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:02.599 twenty two like an X Files thing or is it? No? 1084 01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:06.079 Thank god they were following the British model by then, 1085 01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:08.880 this was a showtime series, so I think there are ten, 1086 01:02:09.039 --> 01:02:12.519 maybe twelve episodes per season. Okay, but you know what, 1087 01:02:12.840 --> 01:02:14.840 you know what, every hour you devote to the show 1088 01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:19.360 is going to be worth your time. Okay, I'll come mind, 1089 01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:23.840 young Frankenstein, give it a chance. Well, for my double bill, 1090 01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:29.440 I went for may Oh, just excellent flick. I love 1091 01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:33.599 that movie. She's She's creepy as hell. Angela madness. I 1092 01:02:33.599 -->

01:02:36.920 believe you know it. Yeah, I don't know why she 1093 01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:39.800 wasn't more popular. If she had made the scene right now, 1094 01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:42.880 she'd be a huge fucking star. She'd be a goth superstar. 1095 01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:46.039 She was right on the cusp there before goth culture 1096 01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:53.679 really exploded. Yeah, she scares me. Actually, she's more just her. 1097 01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:57.719 The way about her in May is more scary than 1098 01:02:57.760 --> 01:02:59.719 the whole of this film that we've been talking about. 1099 01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:03.559 Just her in any given scene. I agree. 1100 01:03:04.280 --> 01:03:06.880 Hey, father mellow, thank you very much for chatting with 1101 01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:09.239 me about missus Mary Shelley and her Frankenstein. 1102 01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:10.719 Always a pleasure. 1103 01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:18.679 Okay, I've only just discovered this thing. I found it 1104 01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:22.239 on YouTube, so I can't really say if I like. 1105 01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:23.599 It or not yet. 1106 01:03:24.119 --> 01:03:26.719 Whilst I was watching a film, it was way too much. 1107 01:03:26.760 --> 01:03:31.079 It was way overbearing. But I've listened to it once 1108 01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:35.280 already and I think it's okay separated from the film 1109 01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:37.519 so far, but it needs a few more spins now. 1110 01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:40.239 This is only one of four horror movie scores that 1111 01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:44.599 Patrick Doyle has actually bothered scoring. Not a very huge 1112 01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:47.639 horror fan this one. But the other one that he's 1113 01:03:47.719 --> 01:03:50.360 done is a two thousand and six take on Jekyll 1114 01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:54.800 and Hyde, a scary kids film called Igor and Stephen 1115 01:03:54.880 --> 01:04:00.000 King also ran adaptation called Needful Things, so there's his reports. 1116 01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:03.360 Whilst I already know Needful Things, I don't really rate 1117 01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:06.039 that score. This one's already a lot better and I've 1118 01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:07.599 only listened to it once. But as I say, I 1119 01:04:07.599 --> 01:04:10.360 can't be a judge. It's not fair. Perhaps you can, though, 1120 01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:12.719 As I say, I found it on YouTube. So where 1121 01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:13.920 can you find this film to watch? 1122 01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:14.119 Though? 1123 01:04:14.159 --> 01:04:16.480 Well, a few months ago you're able to watch this 1124 01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:20.239 for free on Pluto, but it's now left that streaming service, 1125 01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:22.280 so I don't know. I don't know how you're going 1126 01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:24.519 to watch yours for free right now. I guess we've 1127 01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:27.320 just got to suck it up and spend some cash. 1128 01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:33.199 As for podcasts, well, in twenty eighteen August Rewind podcast 1129 01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:37.119 they focused almost two hours on this beauty and it's 1130 01:04:37.360 --> 01:04:40.079 a really good podcast. I would recommend that as well 1131 01:04:40.440 --> 01:04:42.559 as well as maybe if you're in the mood, just 1132 01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:45.719 listen to this one again, because myself and father alone 1133 01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:48.360 we smashed it, if I say so myself. That is 1134 01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:51.000 Mary Shelley's Frankenstein