Michael Schratt August 8th 2026 UFO Disclosure, Investigation, History의 전체 녹취록

00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:46.839 A n E dot com, the. 64 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:57.199 Dear web, you know, dear with you then. 65 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:02.560 Precious time when. 66 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:03.240 Time is. 67 00:06:14.639 --> 00:06:17.240 Coming to you at the speed of light in the darkness. 68 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:23.439 This is Midnight Frequency Radio with Carl Richardson. Now here's Carl. 69 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:27.000 Michael. Welcome to Midnight Frequency Radio. 70 00:06:27.600 --> 00:06:28.959 Thank you, Carl. Good to be with you. 71 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:32.959 I guess I'm going to start out before we get 72 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:35.519 into the UFO cases this evening. Can you tell us 73 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:38.199 a little bit about yourself. I know you're a private 74 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:43.160 pilot and you have you're being into military airspace history. 75 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:47.120 What first started it all for you? Was it an 76 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:51.360 airshow you saw, or something you read or something different? 77 00:06:52.519 --> 00:06:54.600 Well, first of all, I want to thank you for 78 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:58.079 that miraculous and wonderful introduction. That was great. 79 00:06:58.399 --> 00:06:59.399 Well, I appreciate it. 80 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:02.639 I mean that was just so well worded. To answer 81 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:06.480 your question, aviation has been a passion of mine my 82 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:11.120 entire life. My father took me to ash Goosh very 83 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:14.439 early on and went like twenty seven years in a row. 84 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:18.639 One thing led to the next. I started researching classified 85 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:21.720 aircraft within the military industrial complex. I wanted to find 86 00:07:21.720 --> 00:07:24.759 out where our tax dollars are disappearing, and it was 87 00:07:24.920 --> 00:07:28.519 very clear that there was a whole series of birds 88 00:07:28.519 --> 00:07:30.879 within the Reagan administration that have never seen the day 89 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:33.399 of the light of day. So I thought that was interesting. 90 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:38.639 That led to some of the UFO sidings that mimic 91 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:41.959 the form, fit and function of other things that we've seen. So, 92 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:46.199 in point of fact, when we look at UFOs, there's 93 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:50.839 a significant portion of UFO sightings that are our own 94 00:07:50.959 --> 00:07:56.000 deep black programs, and they're painting their aircraft with the 95 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:58.920 UFO brush, And that's where the confusion lies, because we 96 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:02.240 could be looking at eighty five five percent our own craft, 97 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:05.399 but they want us to believe that everything is alien. 98 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:08.079 It's a great cover. So we'll look at some of 99 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:08.600 those tonight. 100 00:08:10.319 --> 00:08:13.000 Is a tr three b one of those, it's all. 101 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:15.959 I think it's one of those for a number of reasons, 102 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:19.560 because if we look at the Belgium triangle wave nineteen 103 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:23.360 eighty nine nineteen ninety, we had thousands of eyewitness reported 104 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:26.920 a trianglar shaped craft with rounded corners. There was a 105 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:29.439 white light at each corner, there was a red light 106 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:34.559 in the center, and then witnesses reported tubes, pipes and 107 00:08:34.679 --> 00:08:38.039 cylinders and a grill work and a diamond treadwork and 108 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:41.840 register like a heating register. That's what they described on 109 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:47.080 the bottom. They also reported a low frequency electrical hunt 110 00:08:47.159 --> 00:08:51.120 noise like a transformer or a sewing machine, So that 111 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:54.759 is indicative of a high voltage electrical field. 112 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:59.440 Do you remember the first ufok shoe encounter that made 113 00:08:59.480 --> 00:09:02.320 you think, hmm, maybe this is real or just something 114 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:02.679 to it. 115 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:05.720 I don't know if I remember the first one, but 116 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:10.919 certainly the classic cases are significant, right, and I think 117 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:15.519 like top three just in my assessment is Hudson Valley 118 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:19.120 Boomerang nineteen eighty two to nineteen eighty nine, twenty five 119 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:24.600 thousand witnesses. At the very minimum, March twenty fourth, nineteen 120 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:27.759 eighty three, we had hundreds of people that pulled off 121 00:09:27.799 --> 00:09:30.120 to the side of the road on the Taconic State Parkway. 122 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:34.600 They were looking up, completely shocked to see a massive 123 00:09:34.679 --> 00:09:40.240 boomerang shaped craft with spotlight shining down. There were reports 124 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:44.440 of a buzzing noise, just like the Belgium triangle that 125 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:48.840 happened years later. They also reported that those pipes and 126 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:52.600 tubes and cylinders and these things were primarily seen on 127 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:56.759 Thursday nights. They were always seen at night. Essentially, the 128 00:09:56.799 --> 00:10:00.679 military never scrambled left sixteens. I thought that was interesting. 129 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:04.519 Why would you not want to scramble F sixteens unless 130 00:10:04.519 --> 00:10:08.600 they need Yeah, yeah, that funny. I always thought that 131 00:10:08.639 --> 00:10:12.600 was interesting. Okay, then number two, we've got Lonnie Zamora 132 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:17.960 April twenty fourth, nineteen

sixty four, Secoro, New Mexico, where 133 00:10:17.960 --> 00:10:21.559 he encountered a minimum sixteen foot long egg shaped craft 134 00:10:21.559 --> 00:10:25.039 with pogo landing gear legs with very interesting landing gear 135 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:30.840 pads that appear to be man made. Two small statue 136 00:10:30.919 --> 00:10:33.600 humanoid beings wearing a one piece type fitting flight suit. 137 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:36.679 So that's number two. Number three has to be Cash 138 00:10:36.759 --> 00:10:41.919 Landrum December twenty ninth, nineteen eighty Huffman, Texas, where Betty 139 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:47.200 Cash Vicki Landrum and Kolbe Landrum encountered a double you 140 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:49.720 could call it a double ice cream cone connected at 141 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:52.320 the wide end with a series of porthole windows wrapped 142 00:10:52.320 --> 00:10:57.440 around the outer circumference. Was bobbing above Kimee Farm Roade 143 00:10:57.559 --> 00:11:01.480 fourteen twenty five near Huffman, Texas. And every time this 144 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:05.440 craft would bob down, there was a blue colored flame 145 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:08.559 coming out of the bottom and it left a burned 146 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:12.039 scorch mark on the pavement. Now, according to John Schustler, 147 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:16.679 who we just lost recently, the Army Corps of Engineers 148 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:20.200 came in, they dug up the road and then two 149 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:23.320 weeks later they dug it up again and repaved it twice, 150 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:26.039 which I thought was very interesting. So those are top three. 151 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:30.000 So I think a combination of just the critical cases 152 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:33.519 kind of mixed in with the man made craft just 153 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:36.000 never left me. It's always kept my attention. 154 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:40.519 When you do your boots on the ground and you 155 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:44.919 go through a university ar cribs, private collections and stuff 156 00:11:45.480 --> 00:11:49.480 are when you're visiting moufon and going through their stuff, 157 00:11:49.519 --> 00:11:52.279 what types of things do you find in their files? 158 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:55.000 Right? Well, that's what I love to do. I love 159 00:11:55.080 --> 00:11:57.639 digging up these old cases and making them come alive. 160 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:02.279 For example, Q four Center for UFO Studies, that's twenty 161 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:06.080 four fifty seven West Peterson Aviting, Downtown Chicago, now been 162 00:12:06.159 --> 00:12:11.559 moved from that location, but they had just about sixteen 163 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:16.799 file cabinets of thousands of files, probably sixty thousand, and 164 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:20.080 it literally took three years to go through every single 165 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:24.039 Manila folder. Now, the criteria that I used was that 166 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:26.480 if it had a flight path report, it had a 167 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:30.039 sketch from the witness of the craft itself, and then 168 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:32.879 kind of a three page narrative to go with it. 169 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:37.159 Those three criteria is what I used to copy it. 170 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:39.080 If it had that, I would make a copy. If 171 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:40.720 it didn't, I would move on to the next one. 172 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:43.320 And so from that point I do a solid works 173 00:12:43.360 --> 00:12:46.960 AutoCAD rendering, a full color rendering. And now with the 174 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:50.120 technology we have today, we can really make these cases 175 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:52.879 come alive. So that's important to preserve our history. 176 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:56.600 As you go through these files, and like I say, 177 00:12:56.639 --> 00:12:58.799 I'm sure you have a large stack that ends up 178 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:03.720 pushing it aside your background and aviation and stuff. Does 179 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:08.879 that help and you're examining these as far as possible 180 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:12.080 reports of the maneuverability of the craft or the speed. 181 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:15.879 I think so, And what I'm finding here, and I 182 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:18.840 think this is important to stress, is that when you 183 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:22.600 start looking through these old historical cases which the government 184 00:13:23.559 --> 00:13:26.840 refuses to acknowledge, they think that anything prior to the 185 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:31.919 Nimits encounter doesn't exist, and they rebranded UFOs as UAP, 186 00:13:32.799 --> 00:13:36.200 trying to make anything prior to completely disappear. Where We're 187 00:13:36.279 --> 00:13:39.399 going to shatter that tonight. But what I'm finding when 188 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:41.639 I go through these cases is that a lot of 189 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:47.120 these UFOs have prong sticking out, have protrusions sticking out, 190 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:51.159 have like steel rods sticking out with a spherit at 191 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:55.919 the end. And I'm thinking, what is that for these 192 00:13:56.600 --> 00:14:00.960 features on these UFOs. It's not by accident. Every single 193 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:04.519 feature on these UFOs, they serve a purpose. It's not 194 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:08.879 by accident. So I started digging and I started really 195 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:14.159 meditating on this, and I collected probably thirty cases now 196 00:14:14.960 --> 00:14:18.279 where I've got these UFOs with these prong sticking out 197 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:19.799 with spheres at the end of them. 198 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:20.919 What is this? 199 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:25.559 Why would UFOs have this on there? So when you 200 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:29.840 look at high voltage

electrical equipment, you've got these static 201 00:14:29.879 --> 00:14:33.120 electrical discharge probes that you see on a Whimshurst generator. 202 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:37.159 We'll look at it tonight, and that is an absolute 203 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:42.519 telltale sign of a high voltage electrical charge field, which 204 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:45.720 also causes static electricity, which we've heard many times on 205 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:48.600 witnesses where the hair stood up on their arms and 206 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:51.519 there was static on the radio. That's exactly what happens 207 00:14:51.879 --> 00:14:55.159 when you have a localized static electrical field. But to 208 00:14:55.360 --> 00:15:02.320 dissipate that electrical charge, you've got these discharge and that 209 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:04.720 I believe is what's going on, and that points to 210 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:08.279 a man made technology for some of these UFOs, but 211 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:09.080 not all of them. 212 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:15.679 Yeah, you've been involved with the term crashing retrieval cases. 213 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:16.919 What does that consist of. 214 00:15:18.080 --> 00:15:21.320 Well, it's been kicked around a lot now, and that's 215 00:15:21.559 --> 00:15:24.720 primarily almost all we're hearing about. You mentioned disclosure and 216 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:28.440 your introduction, and you're absolutely correct. The other terminology we're 217 00:15:28.440 --> 00:15:32.559 hearing is the quote unquote legacy program. When they say 218 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:37.360 their word legacy program. In point of fact, what they 219 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:40.919 are referring to, which is completely forgotten about now because 220 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:44.639 this is all ancient history. They are referring to Leonard 221 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:50.000 Springfield's original crash retrieval cases. He was doing this fifty 222 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:54.320 years ago, and he's an unsung hero, like nobody even 223 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:59.679 even knows of him. Certainly, he's less known in ufology. 224 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:02.919 Now he is known to a certain degree, but when 225 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:06.759 you step outside the ring of UFO researchers, he's completely unknown. 226 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:09.559 If you talk to someone on the street or coworker 227 00:16:09.600 --> 00:16:13.000 and you mentioned the word Leonard Springfield, that name, they 228 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:14.919 won't know who you're talking about. And I think it's 229 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:19.879 sad because he was literally fifty years ahead of his time. 230 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:23.480 And we're hearing about reverse engineering programs in the halls 231 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:27.919 of Congress in Washington, DC, we're hearing about legacy UAP 232 00:16:28.159 --> 00:16:34.480 crash retrieval programs. David Grush talks about an ongoing UAP 233 00:16:34.679 --> 00:16:38.960 crash retrieval program. What he's referring to is Leonard Springfield's 234 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:44.240 original witnesses. Now, Leonard spent thirty years collecting first hand 235 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:49.000 military witnesses, who held the bodies, who did the autopsies, 236 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:53.840 who worked on the tissue samples, who loaded craft onto 237 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:56.960 eighteen wheeler tractor trailer low boy trucks and the ship 238 00:16:57.000 --> 00:16:59.639 them to write Patterson Air Force Space. These are the 239 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:03.919 first ten military witnesses that we really need to track 240 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:07.920 down because, as Stanton talked about many times, at this point, 241 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:11.519 we are beyond chasing the Undertaker. It is the final 242 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:14.039 curtain call when. 243 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:18.640 We look back, can we go beyond Roswell? As far 244 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:22.039 as I believe, there was one crash in Cape Girardo 245 00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:26.359 of Missouri, if I'm not mistaken, that predates Roswell, isn't it. 246 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:29.559 Yeah, there's a couple of cases that predate Roswell that 247 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:32.640 we have a case north of Georgia at an army 248 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:34.720 base that even Leonard didn't know where it was, but 249 00:17:34.799 --> 00:17:39.759 that was in nineteen forty two. We had the Battle 250 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:46.920 Los Angeles that was prior to Rosswell, we have the 251 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:51.000 Magenta Italy case in thirty three, so there were cases, 252 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:53.400 and of course you've got Cape Girardo nineteen forty one, 253 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:57.640 so there were cases prior to Roswell. 254 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:00.319 Roswell just seems to stick out. I guess that's story 255 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:02.799 has been sold so many told so many times, and 256 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:06.720 then appeired on so many different movies and everything related. 257 00:18:06.759 --> 00:18:12.319 That's the one everyone kind of gravitates toward. But you're right, 258 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:17.480 You're right, the one in Cape Girado was there a 259 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:20.119 craft retrieve then at. 260 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:24.000 That absolutely so. It's April twentieth of nineteen forty one. 261 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:31.799 Reverend William Hoffman he had a knock on the door. 262 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:35.319 He got a call from the police department and they 263 00:18:35.359 --> 00:18:38.079 came in a car. It wasn't a squad car, and 264 00:18:38.119 --> 00:18:40.720 I think it was running nine thirty ten pm at night, 265 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:45.680 and he goes in with the police officer. They drive 266 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:50.480 across town. When they get there, they see some smoldering embers. 267

00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:54.720 There's some farm people nearby. And he said that he 268 00:18:54.759 --> 00:18:57.400 saw about a thirty foot diameter dish shaped craft that 269 00:18:57.519 --> 00:18:59.480 was augured in at about a thirty deg gre angle. 270 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:01.599 There was a whole breach on the side of the craft. 271 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:04.720 He looked inside and I've got illustrations of all of this, 272 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:08.400 and he said that there was what looked like a 273 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:11.880 control panel with buttons and switches. There appeared to be 274 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:16.079 some chairs in there. Now he saw two deceased et bodies. 275 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:18.480 They were three and a half to four feet tall. 276 00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:21.240 They were wearing a one piece, tight fitting flight suit 277 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:25.039 that was dark in color. They had oversized head, oversized eyes, 278 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:28.880 slipped for a mouth minute nose. One of them was 279 00:19:28.920 --> 00:19:33.559 still alive. He got to him within sixty seconds. By 280 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:36.799 that time, the military took over control of the whole area. 281 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:40.160 The police was there, the fire department was there. Now. 282 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:43.759 While all this was going on, before the military took 283 00:19:44.039 --> 00:19:49.880 total control of this, there were newspaper photographers going around 284 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:56.039 snapping photographs. And one of these newspaper photographers snapped a 285 00:19:56.079 --> 00:20:01.200 photo of two farm helpers lifting up one of the 286 00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:05.720 dead deceased et corpses, supporting it under its armpits and 287 00:20:05.839 --> 00:20:08.960 outstretching its arms and took a snapshot of this thing. 288 00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:12.359 I'm familiar with that, And he took it on a 289 00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:16.480 small pocket camera was small for that time, and they 290 00:20:16.519 --> 00:20:18.359 didn't confiscate anything from it. 291 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:24.319 Yeah, that's good. Two weeks later that photographer showed up 292 00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:27.839 at the reverend's home and said, Reverend, I think I've 293 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:29.319 got something I want to give you here, and he 294 00:20:29.359 --> 00:20:31.839 gave him a copy of that photograph and it was 295 00:20:31.880 --> 00:20:36.319 handed down through the family. Charlotte Man got to get 296 00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:38.640 good to see this. She saw it with her own eyes. 297 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:42.759 She described it, and then it disappeared into the hands 298 00:20:42.759 --> 00:20:46.480 of a quote unquote photography expert and it's never been 299 00:20:46.519 --> 00:20:49.000 seen again. So I spent a lot of time trying 300 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:51.279 to reproduce that, and so you can see that we 301 00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:55.680 get so close in these UFO cases, but then something 302 00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:57.640 always throws us two feet back. 303 00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:01.400 Makes you wish the family had made a second copy 304 00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:04.079 and buried in a time capsule. 305 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:08.799 So I'm sure for sure, Yes, let's. 306 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:11.519 Move on to Broswell. I know they had to one 307 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:14.480 crash there, but was there not a separate vehicle. 308 00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:19.920 Well, it's been alleged that there was a second vehicle, 309 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:24.319 but if you talk specifically to Don Schmidt about that now, 310 00:21:24.359 --> 00:21:27.400 he only signs off on one crash. So that would 311 00:21:27.400 --> 00:21:31.039 have been on the night of July second, nineteen forty seven, 312 00:21:31.079 --> 00:21:36.119 at eleven fifty nine PM, where the main craft exploded 313 00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:40.119 over the Foster Ranch and rained down the debris. The 314 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:43.319 next morning, July third, nineteen forty seven, we've got Mac 315 00:21:43.400 --> 00:21:47.240 Brazil and seven year old Timothy D. Proctor who got 316 00:21:47.319 --> 00:21:50.680 up there on horseback. They saw the debris field and 317 00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:54.920 there were three types of debris. Number one, various size 318 00:21:55.079 --> 00:21:59.440 and lengths of paper thin material that looked like aluminum foil, 319 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:02.759 that could be cut, could not be burned, could not 320 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:05.920 be dented with a sixteen pound sledgehammer. That's debris number one. 321 00:22:05.960 --> 00:22:11.279 Degree number two is the so called memory metal, which 322 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:14.160 Don Schmidt and Tom Cary have been looking for for decades, 323 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:16.759 and we want to put a call out to anyone 324 00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:22.640 listening to this broadcast if you or someone you know 325 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:27.960 has a piece of Roswell debris, whether it be the 326 00:22:28.200 --> 00:22:31.599 small paper thin aluminum material, the memory metal that you 327 00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:34.680 could crumple up into a ball and then when you 328 00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:36.920 let it go over a table it would spread out 329 00:22:36.920 --> 00:22:41.079 like liquid mercury. That's debris number two. Debris number three 330 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:46.559 was various lengths of small I beam with pastel kind 331 00:22:46.559 --> 00:22:50.839 of like violet symbols written on the inside wall of 332 00:22:50.880 --> 00:22:55.480 the eyebeam. Any one of those three please contact Carl Richardson. 333 00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:58.359 We want to preserve an important part of our national history. 334 00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:02.039 So in a nutshell, that was the initial case. Now, 335 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:07.960 the main

craft kept going eastbound because the trajectory was 336 00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:12.839 essentially from the northwest to the southeast. It was traveling 337 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:17.920 eastbound before it impacted thirty five miles north of Roswell. 338 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:21.640 There were two bodies that were ejected from the escape pod. 339 00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:25.480 That's the second body site. So there were five bodies 340 00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:28.079 recovered and one was still alive. So the main part 341 00:23:28.119 --> 00:23:31.039 of the craft, which was an escape pod the size 342 00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:34.319 of a Volkswagen. It was egg shaped, landed thirty five 343 00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:37.920 miles north of Roswell, where they found two more deceased 344 00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:40.160 ET bodies and a survivor. 345 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:43.960 Did the survivor do you know, it's hard to say 346 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:47.960 surviving any period of time or Yeah. 347 00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:52.039 We got that first hand from Marion Black mac magruder, 348 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:58.680 who in April of nineteen forty eight was at Montgomery 349 00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:02.839 Field and he was called with his other fighter pilots 350 00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:05.839 for a special assignment at Wright Patterson Air Force Base. 351 00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:09.319 When they got there, they were brought into a room. 352 00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:13.000 There were two men with cardboard boxes that have walked 353 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:15.680 into this room. So you can imagine the scene here. 354 00:24:16.240 --> 00:24:19.240 You've got like twenty four ACE pilots from World War Two, 355 00:24:19.440 --> 00:24:22.160 like the best of the best, are kind of sitting 356 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:25.160 down in this room and these two guys walking with 357 00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:28.680 these cardboard boxes and they start handing out pieces of 358 00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:33.559 the Roswell debris. They wanted to get their reaction from 359 00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:38.680 seasoned World War two ACE fighter pilots couldn't handle this 360 00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:41.319 new reality. You know. It was like a trial balloon. Now, 361 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:44.400 once that was done, the debris was put back into 362 00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:46.599 this box. They were led down a corridor. They made 363 00:24:46.599 --> 00:24:49.160 a left hand turn. Now they were at a room 364 00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:54.920 with a one way mirror, and Marion Black macmgruder saw 365 00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:59.440 the survivor. So he survived from at least July nineteen 366 00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:02.440 forty seven to April nineteen forty eight. He saw it 367 00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:05.880 in a one way mirror. He said, he looked squidly. 368 00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:10.279 It reminded him of Casper the Ghost. He had emaciated 369 00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:13.960 body features, his hands went

down below his knees, he 370 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:17.720 had an oversized head, oversized eyes, and they also saw 371 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:22.440 the additional deceased et corpses. So this is April nineteen 372 00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:24.799 forty eight at right Patterson Air Force Base. 373 00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:27.599 They kind of fit the profile of a standard gray 374 00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:28.720 more or less a. 375 00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:32.200 Little bit yep, kind of sort of like that. But 376 00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:35.240 they had a one piece, tight fitting flight suit when 377 00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:39.720 they recover. Now here's the thing, though. The crash took 378 00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:42.880 place on the night of July second, nineteen forty seven, 379 00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:46.839 So the bodies were sitting out in the desert and 380 00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:51.240 rotting and decomposing for the night of the second, the third, 381 00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:54.920 the fourth, the fifth, the sixth, into the night of 382 00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:57.359 the seventh. So you can see by the time they 383 00:25:57.440 --> 00:26:00.119 got there, these bodies were in bad shape. 384 00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:04.119 I'm not sure I would have wanted to smell it, but. 385 00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:07.480 Well, it's interesting you mentioned that, and this is what's 386 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:10.240 talked about in Witness to Roswell, which I highly recommend. 387 00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:14.279 If you're skeptical about roswell, or you have a friend 388 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:19.200 or family member that's skeptical about roswell, I highly recommend 389 00:26:20.079 --> 00:26:23.400 that book Witness to Roswell by Don Schmitt and Tom Carey. 390 00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:31.400 In that book, they specifically discuss what the pungent odor 391 00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:36.920 smelled like. People who are on the retrieval teams that 392 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:41.079 were in proximity to these bodies. When they got home, 393 00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:44.240 they could absolutely not get that stench out of the clothes, 394 00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:46.559 and the wives had to burn their clothes. Now keep 395 00:26:46.599 --> 00:26:48.720 in mind, this is a weather balloon we're talking about here. 396 00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:52.279 According to the government, this is what the first hand 397 00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:55.359 military witnesses from the five or ninth bomb Group described. 398 00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:59.240 They don't describe by weather balloon. There'd be no reason 399 00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:02.400 to burn their clothes if it was a weather blown 400 00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:04.119 So we're talking about something different here. 401 00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:07.400 If you hit any illustrations you wanted the show too, 402 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:08.839 you could do it now or if you wanted to 403 00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:10.279 hold off till later, I'll leave that. 404

00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:13.000 I'm fine sharing my screens. 405 00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:15.680 Okay, should we do that, Let's do it. 406 00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:22.000 Okay, we'll do it. Okay share screen share Okay, hopefully 407 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:25.759 you can see that. Yes, slide show. I'm going to 408 00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:29.720 go from beginning here and that should make this large. 409 00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:32.480 Now if it doesn't, I'm going to go to the 410 00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:34.279 next side. I want to make sure it's tracking on 411 00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:37.200 your end. Okay. So do you see this one? 412 00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:38.000 Yes? 413 00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:39.200 Yeah, you do see that one. 414 00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:39.519 Okay. 415 00:27:39.680 --> 00:27:44.319 So the title of this is UFO Magical Mystery Tour. 416 00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:48.079 And what I've done with this presentation is these are 417 00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:51.839 the best of the best from all the university archives, 418 00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:57.440 all the private archives, q folks, nightcap files, mew fund files, 419 00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:01.400 personal files that were sent to me. I dug all 420 00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:04.920 this stuff up, I put it in a congruent timeline, 421 00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:07.920 I did an AutoCAD drawing of it, and then I 422 00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:10.799 did a three D full color rendering, and I commissioned 423 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:12.640 people from all around the world to help me. So 424 00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:14.960 this is kind of what I call the UFO Magical 425 00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:20.440 Mystery Tour. Here a couple quick announcements. The visual aids 426 00:28:20.920 --> 00:28:26.200 using this presentation are computer generated forensic composite illustrations which 427 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:32.240 originated from actual UFO case files and eyewitness reports. So 428 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:36.200 here's where I got the information. Q Folks, ncap apro 429 00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:41.279 mupon Invisible Residents by Ivan T. Sanderson, Uninvited Guests by 430 00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:46.559 Richard Hall, National UFO Historical Record Center, UFO Newspaper Clipping, 431 00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:50.240 the Leonard Springfield Collection, Gray Barker UFO Collection, Boots on 432 00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:54.319 the Ground. And then through this presentation, I'm going to 433 00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:58.000 give you the dates, the times, the locations, the references 434 00:28:58.119 --> 00:29:00.960 where I got this, so that you can use the 435 00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:05.720 scientific principle and duplicate this on your own. I want 436 00:29:05.759 --> 00:29:08.559 to give you that opportunity so that you can verify this. 437 00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:13.880 So I thought we'll start here foo fighters aerial oddities 438 00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:17.880 of World War Two. We're going in ahead of the 439 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.480 flying saucers that were reported in nineteen forty some. This 440 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:25.519 is prior to that time with Kenneth Arnold. This is 441 00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:29.759 prior to that. The reference for this is Strange Company 442 00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:34.000 Military Encounters with UFOs. That's where I got the information, 443 00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:39.880 very good book. And this is Newcastle Sun, January third, 444 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:42.680 nineteen forty five. And here they say foo fighters are 445 00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:47.279 latest pilots flying over Germany at night report that strange 446 00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:50.799 balls of fire are following them around on their missions. 447 00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:55.119 They have christened these strange phenomenon foo Fighters. So here 448 00:29:55.119 --> 00:29:59.480 we've got American B twenty nine bombers encountered Foo fighters 449 00:29:59.519 --> 00:30:02.119 over till thank you on May twenty third, nineteen forty three. 450 00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:05.960 So we've got Allied B seventeen's, we've got Allied B 451 00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:10.200 twenty four Liberators in the European theater, and then in 452 00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:13.160 the Pacific theater we had the B twenty nine bombers. 453 00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:17.319 So it was a combination of all three bombers April 454 00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:19.480 twenty sixth, nineteen forty four. And we'll just do a 455 00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:23.200 couple of these. Here. We've got an RIF Lancaster bomber 456 00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:27.319 with a six hundred and twenty second squadron encounters four 457 00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:30.799 glowing orbs with stubby wings while returning from a mission 458 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:34.599 over Germany. So I love this Lancaster bomber. 459 00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:34.880 Here. 460 00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:40.279 These are seasoned bomber pilots. No reason to lie. Now. 461 00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:44.519 What's interesting about these quote unquote food fighter sidings as 462 00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:47.759 when they opened up the fifty caliber weapons on these 463 00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:52.079 bombers and they saw the tracer rounds go into these 464 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:55.680 food fighters. They absorbed the rounds, they did not go 465 00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:59.200 out through the other side. So whoever or whatever's building 466 00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:03.400 this had the technology to fly rings around our best 467 00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:08.519 aircraft and they could outfly, outpace and absorb the weapons. 468 00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:11.559 So I think it's interesting something to consider. A B 469 00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.279 seventeen bomber from the Fifth Air Force encountered a blue 470 00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:19.839 colored ball of fire over Unique, Germany on October twenty ninth, 471 00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:23.160 nineteen forty four. It's going to the next one. Here, 472

00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:27.440 this is another illustration. I mean, these bomber pilots are 473 00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:32.279 credible military witnesses. Here this is another illustration I've put together. Now, 474 00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:35.880 they were bombing the ball bearing factories and the oil refineries, 475 00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:40.240 encountering these strange lights that would come up to the squadron, 476 00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:42.920 fly around, then take off and skid out a lot 477 00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:45.359 of there. Here's another version here. This gives you a 478 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.599 three quarter view on the right side of the B 479 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:54.400 B seventeens on the night of May Tewod nineteen forty five, 480 00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:59.000 nine B twenty four Liberator bombers with the eleventh Bombardment 481 00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:02.680 Groups four hundred thirty first Squadron. We're flying over the 482 00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:07.160 Japanese island of truck Atoll. The bomber crews observed two 483 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:11.200 cherry red orbs. So this is nineteen forty five. On 484 00:32:11.319 --> 00:32:14.680 July seventh, nineteen forty five, a B twenty nine bomber 485 00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:18.720 encountered a red colored glowing food fighter over the Japanese 486 00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:22.880 city of Cisibo. And we'll go into this one here. 487 00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:28.160 During the early nineteen fifties, there was an official order 488 00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:32.640 issued to Air Force pilots to shoot these flying saucers down. 489 00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:37.839 So this is Cincinnati Enquirer, July twenty ninth, nineteen fifty two, 490 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:41.400 and they say here shoot saucers down. Jet pilots so 491 00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:45.559 ordered in twenty four hour era alert. So in the 492 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:50.319 early nineteen fifties there was a standing order by the 493 00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:53.759 Air Force to our pilots to shoot these things down. 494 00:32:54.359 --> 00:32:57.160 Let's do a couple more newspaper clippings. Here it says 495 00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:02.400 jets keeping twenty four hour alert for saucers. Pilots order 496 00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:06.000 to down objects if they don't land. Next one on 497 00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:09.359 the saucer trail, Pilots told shoot them down. Jets on 498 00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:12.200 twenty four hour alert to shoot down saucers. So bottom 499 00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:17.759 line is these craft which are F ninety fours were 500 00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:22.000 encountering these dish shaped craft. They had gun cameras on them. 501 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:26.240 But by nineteen fifty two, a couple of years into 502 00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:30.599 this order, they rescinded this order because there were multiple 503 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:34.119 aircraft that were lost and multiple pilots that were lost, 504 00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:37.559 so they rescinded the order. Here here is a good 505 00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:41.799 shot of an F ninety four starfire. This is primarily 506 00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:45.920 the aircraft that was involved and these intempted UFO intercepts. 507 00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:50.559 There's essentially only two places in America. There might be 508 00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:53.519 a couple more, but I finally two where you can 509 00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:56.319 see one of these. The one on the left is 510 00:33:56.359 --> 00:34:00.400 the Pima Aerospace Museum in Arizona. That's basically in two sound, 511 00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:04.480 and it has the front rocket flaps in the closed position. 512 00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:06.640 If you want to see it with the open position, 513 00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:09.519 you got to go to the Air Force Museum in Dayton, Ohio, 514 00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:12.000 which you can spend a whole day there. So what 515 00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.280 I wanted to do is I commission my good friend 516 00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:18.559 Rudy Guardea. He gets credit for the drawing here. But 517 00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:21.000 this is one of these intercepts. And this went on 518 00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:25.480 multiple times during the early nineteen fifties. So here is 519 00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:28.320 my full color rendering to give people an idea what 520 00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:31.920 this look like over Washington, d C. This is confirmed 521 00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:35.280 on radar. This happened many times, many times, and we 522 00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:39.760 lost aircraft and pilots, which the Air Force does not 523 00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:42.320 want to talk about that. They want to essentially keep 524 00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:43.079 it under wraps. 525 00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:45.159 I'm sure they do that. 526 00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:47.280 Sure they do. And because they don't want to admit 527 00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:51.079 that they're not in control of the skies, they can't 528 00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:53.880 do anything. We put up our best fighters and it 529 00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:57.199 was no match. I have to highlight this book, Shoot 530 00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:00.599 Them Down The Flying Saucer Air Wars of teen fifty 531 00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:04.840 two by my very good friend Frank Fashino, who's probably 532 00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:11.360 the world's expert on the attempted pilot UFO intercepts in 533 00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:15.840 the nineteen fifties and also the Flatwoods Monster case of 534 00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:18.119 nineteen fifty two. He's the world's expert. There's no one 535 00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:20.800 better in the world. He's the best of the best. Okay, 536 00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:24.679 now we need to talk about this man right here. 537 00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:28.000 This is Gordon Cooper, and he had a number of 538 00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:30.920 UFO related events and we're going to talk about them here. 539

00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:36.519 I considered Gordon Cooper a reliable witness. He was a 540 00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:39.360 pilot and then he became an astronaut. He was one 541 00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:43.559 of the original Mercury seven astronauts. So a couple things here, 542 00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:46.679 bullet item number one. Number one, he wrote a personal 543 00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:50.440 letter to the United Nations regarding UFOs in nineteen seventy eight. 544 00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:54.920 Number two, he was involved in an attempted UFO intercept 545 00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:57.840 over West Germany in nineteen fifty one. And number three 546 00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:02.760 he was involved and if a UFO landing case at 547 00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:05.239 Edward's Air Force Base back in nineteen fifty seven. We're 548 00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:07.760 going to look at some of these here. All of 549 00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:12.639 this is highlighted in his book Leap of Faith and 550 00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:16.039 Astronauts Journey into the Unknown. So if you want to 551 00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:19.320 learn a little bit more about this, I just you 552 00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:20.960 don't even have to buy it. Go to the library, 553 00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:23.079 local library. You can pick this up. And he goes 554 00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:28.119 into intricate detail on what these encounters were actually like. 555 00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:30.440 So let's go to the first one, nineteen fifty one, 556 00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:36.239 West Germany, and he's within Squadron mate here. Over two 557 00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:41.320 consecutive weekends there was reports from the meteorologist at the 558 00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:44.199 Air Force base, and this meteorologist kind of came up 559 00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:47.679 to these pilots and say, hey, guys, I've been seeing 560 00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:50.960 these dish shaped craft. They're metallic, they have a dome 561 00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:53.920 on top. It's been going on for two weeks. Why 562 00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:56.639 don't you guys try to intercept this. So Gordon went 563 00:36:56.679 --> 00:37:00.199 to his wingman and said, let's do it. So I'm 564 00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:02.159 in their F eighty six saber jets. They go up 565 00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:05.320 at a forty five degree angle. They tried to intercept 566 00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:09.400 these and there was no chance because whoever or whatever 567 00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:12.920 was flying these and remember these are about thirty foot diameter, 568 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:16.719 dish shaped craft, metallic appearance, with the dome on top. 569 00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:21.679 They could make ninety degree left hand turns at high velocity, 570 00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.960 they could fly backwards, they could zip, and they could 571 00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:28.239 fly to the right. It's like they conquered gravity. It 572 00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:31.679 was not an issue

to them. Gordon Cooper could not 573 00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:35.199 intercept them. This is another version I put together here. 574 00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:36.960 This gives you an idea what this might have looked like. 575 00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:39.800 Now they didn't get quite this close, but this just 576 00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:42.599 gives you an idea of F eighty six as trying 577 00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:46.639 to intercept these craft. Here we'll go to the newspaper, clicking. 578 00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:48.199 I'm not going to read the whole thing. But this 579 00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:53.760 is Corvellis Gazette Times, October eleventh, two thousand and four. 580 00:37:54.480 --> 00:37:59.079 Here it says earlier in nineteen fifty one, Cooper and 581 00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:04.639 other persons several times cited an entire formation of circular 582 00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:08.679 objects passing over their Air Force base in Western Germany. 583 00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:12.519 Quote we never could get close enough in our saber 584 00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:15.159 jets to pin them down, but they were round in 585 00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:19.360 shape and very metallic looking. Direct quote from Gordon Cooper. 586 00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:24.079 All right, May twenty fifth, nineteen fifty five, between EPSOM 587 00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:27.079 and Dunsford, England. You've got a four range and civilian 588 00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:31.519 airliner here encountering this cigar shaped craft with kind of 589 00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:36.760 pointed ends. We'll go to Flying Saucer News and this 590 00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:42.800 is interesting article. Here they interview pilot and co pilot. 591 00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:46.480 This is summer nineteen fifty five. It says flight engineer 592 00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:50.840 Jose Elva said, quote the objects seem to approach from 593 00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:54.400 the port side and pass right under our nose. To me, 594 00:38:54.719 --> 00:38:57.679 it looked like a silver cigar. There was no smoke 595 00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:02.039 trail from it. The radio office Jo Almidez said that 596 00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:04.719 the object was traveling at a terrific speed. This is 597 00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:08.119 nineteen fifty five. And that in all his nine years 598 00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:10.320 of flying he had never seen anything like it. It 599 00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:12.920 looked as though it was made out of aluminum, he said. So, 600 00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:17.079 now we've got some type of cigar shaped craft that 601 00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:22.280 looks like it has conquered or negated gravity nineteen fifty five, 602 00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:28.159 and it's making these incredible maneuvers here. Now let's go here, 603 00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:31.760 which I think is one of my favorite cases. This 604 00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:35.239 is the RB thirty six case late nineteen fifty six 605 00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:38.639 over South Dakota. Now keep in mind you've got six 606 00:39:38.760 --> 00:39:42.320 turning and four burning, which means you've got six reciprocal 607 00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:46.280 engines which are pushers, and then you've got four outrigger 608 00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:49.239 jet engines. And we're talking about a massive RB thirty 609 00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:53.639 six here. This thing is just huge, according to the 610 00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:57.400 Air Force officer who was the primary eyewitness, Now there 611 00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:01.000 were sixteen crew members aboard this RB thirty seve and 612 00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:03.960 they're flying at twenty four thousand feet over South Dakota. 613 00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:09.760 He said. They were all issued still cameras, and a 614 00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:13.679 one hundred foot diameter dish shaped craft pull up alongside 615 00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:17.599 the RB thirty six and parked itself off the left wing, 616 00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:21.480 one hundred feet off the left wing at close range. 617 00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:24.159 So a number of these crew members went up into 618 00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:27.480 the greenhouse of the RB thirty six, which is the cockpit. 619 00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:30.599 This is the enlargement that I had Rudy do here. 620 00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:33.880 And since they were all issued still cameras, they were 621 00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:37.760 snapping away photographs. They got this thing at close range. Now, 622 00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:41.840 when the RB thirty six landed, they were debriefed and 623 00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:45.920 all of that film was confiscated. So I'm asking the question, 624 00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:50.800 in these UFO Trump tranches that have been dropped from 625 00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:55.440 the Trump administration, why are we getting balloons and birds 626 00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:59.519 and blurs? Why aren't we getting this type of information. 627 00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:00.880 That's a good question. 628 00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:06.320 You know, we as taxpayers, this information and these photographs 629 00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:11.480 were procured you tax using taxpayer dollars. We have every 630 00:41:11.559 --> 00:41:14.199 right to demand We're not going to request it. We're 631 00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:18.199 going to demand that this kind of footage be declassified. 632 00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:22.320 So I don't know what Trump needs to do, but 633 00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:25.840 this needs to happen now. We're not going to accept 634 00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:29.719 any more of these ridiculous releases. We're just getting balloons 635 00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:32.519 and birds. We want the hard physical evidence. We want 636 00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:37.280 the gun camera footage. We want up close, unambiguous photographs, 637 00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:39.719 just like you see here. This thing was one hundred 638 00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:43.119 feet off the left wing at close ranch.

These photographs 639 00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:47.239 have to be absolutely miraculous looking. This is a daytime 640 00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:50.960 sighting one hundred foot silver metallic dish shaped craft with 641 00:41:51.079 --> 00:41:57.760 a dome on top. I implore President Trump to demand 642 00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:01.719 this from either the Pentagon Wright Patterson Air Force Base. 643 00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:06.639 The CIA has an archive one of these locations where 644 00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:10.400 they keep these files. Here all right, next one, this 645 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:15.159 is the other UFO incident that involved Gordon Cooper. So 646 00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:19.280 nineteen fifty seven Edwards Air Force Base. Now, they were 647 00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:23.800 filming the installation of precision landing equipment and they had 648 00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:29.480 camera crew there. According to Gordon Cooper, a thirty foot 649 00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:32.400 diameter dish shaped craft hovered over the dry lake bed. 650 00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:36.639 It extended three tripod landing gear legs set on the 651 00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:40.559 dry lake bed for thirty seconds, hovered back up, landing 652 00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:42.599 gear retracted into the bottom of the craft, and then 653 00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:46.000 the craft flew away. So this is my best rendition 654 00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:49.599 of what that looks like now. He also said that 655 00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:52.840 they got it all caught on motion picture film reel. 656 00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:57.039 That's the film was brought back to Edward's Air Force Base. 657 00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:02.559 Gordon Cooper examine the film it was of good quality. 658 00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:05.760 He did not run it through a projector. Now the 659 00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:08.880 next thing that happened now, I got this from my 660 00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:11.480 good friend Tony Tony Corbo. I want to give him credit. 661 00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:16.320 He interviewed Gordon Cooper long time ago. I believe this 662 00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:21.639 is at Reno. So here here is a second hand 663 00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:26.360 individual who interviewed the first hand witness. So we're almost 664 00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:29.320 we're basically just one removed here. He said that it 665 00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:33.239 was the base commander that took that film back to 666 00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:35.559 write Patterson Air Force Base and it could still be 667 00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:40.239 there now. So I am absolutely requesting and demanding, and 668 00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:44.119 everybody else should too, because your tax dollars went into 669 00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:48.440 this and paid for this. We demand that this film 670 00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:55.559 that Gordon Cooper specifically mentioned be declassified immediately, absolutely immediately. 671 00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:59.000 No more playing around the bush here, no more kicking 672 00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:02.079 the can down the road trying to time out the witnesses. 673 00:44:02.119 --> 00:44:04.880 See what they've done. It's obvious, Carl. What they've done 674 00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:09.559 is they have timed out the original five oh ninth 675 00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:13.119 bomb group witnesses, anyone who was a first hand witness 676 00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:14.400 of Roswell, They're all dead. 677 00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:15.119 Yeah. 678 00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:18.400 Is convenient that over the past couple of years. We've 679 00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:22.360 been having these congressional hearings with these quote unquote whistleblowers. 680 00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:26.440 Why didn't you do this when those five oh ninth 681 00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:30.320 Bomb Group members were still alive. They could have been 682 00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:32.840 brought into the halls of Congress and this would have 683 00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:35.159 been live on CNN. This had been live all around 684 00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:37.480 the world, and they could have told their story. But 685 00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:41.719 they waited conveniently for all these five oh ninth Bomb 686 00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:44.519 Group members to pass away. So in their eyes, it's 687 00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:47.119 cover up complete. But we're not going to let them 688 00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:49.639 get away with this. Yeah, not to let them get 689 00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:50.199 away with this. 690 00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:52.840 I want my print. That's why I want my print. 691 00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:55.719 I want my print, and I want my motion picture 692 00:44:55.800 --> 00:44:59.320 film reel. Okay, all right, So here's what the craft 693 00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:02.559 looked like when it landed. Now, you know, I'm doing 694 00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:05.079 the best I can with what we've got. It probably 695 00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:08.880 didn't look exactly like this, but probably something close to this, 696 00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:12.719 something like this. But they've got it. Gordon Cooper held 697 00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:14.880 it in his hands. It was of good quality. He's 698 00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:18.159 got it. So here is that article again, and here's 699 00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:21.199 what Gordon Cooper says. He says Cooper saw the film 700 00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:24.519 as soon as it was rushed through the development process. Quote, 701 00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:29.760 it was a typical circular shape UFO. He recollected not 702 00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:32.199 too many people saw it because it took off at 703 00:45:32.280 --> 00:45:35.079 quite a sharp angle and just climbed straight out of sight. 704 00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:39.199 He reviewed the film a dozen times before it was 705 00:45:39.239 --> 00:45:45.119 forwarded to Washington, never to resurface. And so that's where 706 00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:50.119 we come in, right as concern taxpayers,

it is our 707 00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:55.800 constitutional obligation to question authority. And so what that means is, 708 00:45:56.199 --> 00:46:00.599 if you extrapolate this to its furthest extent, it means 709 00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:05.960 that the air Force doesn't own anything. They don't own 710 00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:08.960 the aircraft, they don't own the buildings, they don't own 711 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:12.719 the maintenance facilities, they don't own the runways. They don't 712 00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:17.119 pay the employees. We do. We're the taxpayers. We own 713 00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:21.119 that film. We have every right to question authority because 714 00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:27.679 it's our constitutional obligation. So I'm putting up these representatives, right, 715 00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:31.119 I mean, we have every right to Anna Pauline A 716 00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:34.920 Luna needs to run to ground. I've already done the 717 00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.599 work for them, you know, like I shouldn't have to 718 00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:39.400 do their work for them, but I will do it 719 00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:43.840 anyway because I'm committed to this. It's a crusade, and 720 00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:45.840 I will go down with the ship if I have to. 721 00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:49.599 But again, I've already given the dates, given the locations. 722 00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:52.239 They've got more unlimited funding than I do. I'm just 723 00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:55.360 working on a shoe string budget here. They've got million 724 00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:58.320 dollar budgets over there. They should have no problem running 725 00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:02.199 this to ground TIMBERSA needs to get on this immediately. 726 00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:05.559 Eric Berlason needs to get on this immediately. I've given 727 00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:08.440 them the dates, the times, in the location, so they 728 00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:13.960 have no problem following this. Where are our representatives in Washington, DC? 729 00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:16.960 Why aren't they going after this film and other gun 730 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:20.440 camera films recorded by Air Force pilots during the early 731 00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:22.920 nineteen fifties. That's the question we need to ask. 732 00:47:23.559 --> 00:47:26.920 Absolutely. Let's hold right there. I need to do a break, 733 00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:29.119 and then we'll come back and continue your own with 734 00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:29.920 your presentation. 735 00:47:33.199 --> 00:48:08.840 Okay, sun down on a walking through the sun quets, 736 00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:11.360 crash faded, don't loop back. 737 00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:13.599 I would probably. 738 00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:30.800 Again, This is Dark Spaces News. I'm Joshua Stark. Astronomers 739 00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:33.760 may have found the clearest evidence yet of a moonlike 740 00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:37.599 object beyond our solar system,

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This is November nineteen 802 00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:43.079 fifty eight, Guantano Bay, Cuba. A couple of things to 803 00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:45.880 talk about before we get into this. Number one, the 804 00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:50.440 USSFDR was the first aircraft carrier to carry nuclear weapons 805 00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:54.320 on board. Number two, it had a history of UFO sightings, 806 00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:59.079 all right, So it was at night when there was 807 00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:02.239 commotion below decks, so you can kind of picture this 808 00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:06.840 aircraft carrier here at night. And then people were screaming 809 00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:10.039 and yelling and rushing and climbing up ladders and there 810 00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:13.440 was chaos and men were swearing and just yelling. It 811 00:54:13.519 --> 00:54:16.320 was a chaotic scene. When they got to the flight 812 00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:20.280 deck here they saw something incredible. And I'll picture this 813 00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:23.800 at night. And this is the original sketch from the 814 00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:26.719 primary eye witness. His name is Chester Grazinsky. He's no 815 00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:30.519 longer with us. This is his original sketch on MUFHON 816 00:54:30.639 --> 00:54:35.119 report and this was filed August eighth, nineteen seventy eight. 817 00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:42.079 At least twenty five naval personnel, including Chester Grazinski, saw 818 00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:45.920 a yellow light approaching the aircraft carrier. As it got closer, 819 00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:50.199 This was really no yellow light. This was a two 820 00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:53.599 hundred foot long cigar shaped craft that had a series 821 00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:59.000 of rectangular windows on one side of the craft itself. Now, 822 00:54:59.039 --> 00:55:02.400 they said that they could feel the heat emanating off this. 823 00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:04.480 Now you can see that on his sketch. Here he's 824 00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:08.480 got these lines coming off. So right away, it's a 825 00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:12.239 close encounter of the first kind according to Jalen Heinech, 826 00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:15.039 because it's a visual sighting. Number two, it's a close 827 00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:19.320 encounter of the second kind because it had physical effects. 828 00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:21.559 They could feel it on their faces. Now, I'm going 829 00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:23.760 to go on to the next slide here and we'll 830 00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:26.000 do a blow up of his sketch. Now what you 831 00:55:26.079 --> 00:55:29.199 can see here in the enlargement on the bottom. He 832 00:55:29.320 --> 00:55:34.119 said that through these windows he could see what looked 833 00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:36.719 like humanoid beings. There were more than one, because he 834 00:55:36.840 --> 00:55:40.519 used the term plural. They were walking back and forth 835 00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:43.880 between these windows, and one of them held up its 836 00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:47.119 hand above its head and was waving to the nable 837 00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:50.800 personnel backdown on the aircraft carrier. I just love this case. Now, 838 00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:54.559 as this thing departed, it

kind of turned an orangice 839 00:55:54.599 --> 00:55:58.159 color and departed at an extremely high rate of speed 840 00:55:58.199 --> 00:56:01.920 with no sonic boom. And this is late nineteen fifty 841 00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:07.039 eight Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. So whoever or whatever had this technology, 842 00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:12.599 they were able to exceed the speed of sound without 843 00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:16.599 creating a sonic boom back in nineteen fifty eight. So 844 00:56:16.679 --> 00:56:18.639 of course we had to do a full color illustration. 845 00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:22.760 And here's what we came up with. So I want 846 00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:25.840 to give credit to all my artists that have helped 847 00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:28.840 me on this, and they've done, you know, just a 848 00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:31.239 really good job. This is Tom Bogan's illustration. Want to 849 00:56:31.239 --> 00:56:33.400 give him credit. We'll do a blow up here so 850 00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:36.679 that you can see this being waving back at the 851 00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:39.800 flight crew. Now they've got records for this, it's in 852 00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:42.519 the logbook, but of course all that's been taken away. 853 00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:46.440 So this is another case of good evidence seen by 854 00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:50.760 multiple credible witnesses that they just love to make this 855 00:56:50.840 --> 00:56:56.039 evidence disappear, all right. Next one, Father gillis Siding June 856 00:56:56.079 --> 00:56:59.400 twenty sixth, nineteen fifty nine, Papua New Guinea. Here you 857 00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:02.239 see Father Gill in the foreground. Now there were at 858 00:57:02.360 --> 00:57:05.960 least twenty five other locals that saw this as well, 859 00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:09.440 and what he described is a thirty five foot diameter 860 00:57:09.519 --> 00:57:12.559 dish shaped craft. The bottom of it looked like a 861 00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:15.159 two tiered wedding cake. So the bottom of the craft 862 00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:18.360 was thirty five feet in diameter, the upper section was 863 00:57:18.440 --> 00:57:22.679 twenty feet in diameter. There were four prongs sticking out 864 00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:25.840 of this, which I don't think were landing your legs. 865 00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:30.840 He also said that there were four humanoid looking beings 866 00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:33.239 on the top deck of this craft. They did not 867 00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:36.639 look like aliens. They looked like humans. They were wearing 868 00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:39.800 a one piece type fitting flight suit. Two of them 869 00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:42.880 were near the front edge of the top deck of 870 00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:46.320 the craft itself. The other two were more obscured in 871 00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:49.119 the background and looked like they were repairing some type 872 00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:52.119 of mechanical equipment. I'm going to blow this up here 873 00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:54.199 a little bit so you can kind of This is 874 00:57:54.239 --> 00:57:56.239 my second version that gives you an idea what this 875 00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:59.679 may have looked like. Now. He also had two way 876 00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:03.760 communitmunication with the beings on this He had a lantern 877 00:58:03.840 --> 00:58:06.920 that he moved and the craft responded, and then he 878 00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:10.920 also waved and they waved back. So the second name 879 00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:13.599 of this case is not just the father Gill case, 880 00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:16.960 but they also call it they waved back. That's really 881 00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:19.880 the name of this case. Here here's the blow up 882 00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:23.800 of this craft itself and you can see the looks 883 00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:26.119 like four men on top, with more two of them 884 00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:30.519 were more obscured. Now, off to the right of the craft, 885 00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:34.559 there was a white slash blue being that went up 886 00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:36.920 at a forty five degree angle. They also reported that 887 00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:40.440 as well. Here's the map that shows you where all 888 00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:42.360 this So this is Papua New Guinea. I'm going to 889 00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:45.519 blow this up here. Here's another map that shows you 890 00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:47.719 the location. I'm going to zoom in a little bit 891 00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:52.000 closer so that we can get directly where this actually 892 00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:56.159 took place. And then here's father Gill's original sketch. So 893 00:58:56.199 --> 00:58:58.400 you can see these prongs sticking out. You've got the 894 00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:02.880 forty five degree beam of light. You've got the four beings. 895 00:59:03.800 --> 00:59:08.199 This is International UFO Reporter, November nineteen seventy seven. Another 896 00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:12.159 graphic illustration. You've got all these locals here that saw it, 897 00:59:12.679 --> 00:59:15.239 so it's not just Father Gil, but it's a multiple 898 00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:20.400 witness case. These are six hundred dpi scans of the 899 00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:24.079 exact location where this went down. Here, this is what 900 00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:27.599 the mission looks like it's a rather simple operation here 901 00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:31.480 and nothing super sophisticated. This is another view here. Let 902 00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:33.599 me do one more that gives you kind of sets 903 00:59:33.639 --> 00:59:37.320 the scene up. And then this is the beach where 904 00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:40.320 this thing was hovering over, like plus or minus three 905 00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:43.119 hundred feet, so we're looking at pretty much the exact 906 00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:50.559 location where this took place. Again nineteen fifty nine, William B. 907

00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:55.000 Gill brightly lit shaft of blue light shining upwards from 908 00:59:55.039 --> 00:59:58.519 center about thirty five feet in diameter for the lower deck. 909 00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:00.960 Upper deck was twenty feet, so it looked like a 910 01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:04.519 two tiered wedding cait distance was four hundred and fifty feet, 911 01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:07.800 which is close range. That's close enough to get some 912 01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:11.760 real good detail on it. This is another illustration here, 913 01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:14.000 and then I went ahead and did a color of 914 01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:17.920 this just to give everyone idea what that might have 915 01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:20.960 looked like. And now we move on to this case. 916 01:00:22.119 --> 01:00:25.440 I wonder the patrician the patricians from the bottom of 917 01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:29.280 the craft, could they possibly be gravitational wave guides or 918 01:00:29.320 --> 01:00:30.440 something to that effect. 919 01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:34.679 I think this is another example of these static electrical 920 01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:39.599 discharge probes. Okay, these prongs and protrusions sticking out of 921 01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:44.320 these UFOs, Like, why deploy landing gear if you're not 922 01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:47.679 going to land you're over the ocean exactly. Yeah, it 923 01:00:47.800 --> 01:00:52.639 just doesn't make sense. So anyway, Maurice Mass July one, 924 01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:56.039 nineteen sixty five Vellen saw France and what you're looking 925 01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:59.840 at here is an actual photograph of the man in question. Here, 926 01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:02.360 this is the man of the hour. This is Maurice Mass, 927 01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:07.039 and he's standing in the middle of his lavender field. 928 01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:11.239 He's got all these lavender plants here. The next thing 929 01:01:11.320 --> 01:01:14.239 he noticed is that he heard something behind him. So 930 01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:17.119 he turns around when we move on to the next slide, 931 01:01:18.159 --> 01:01:23.360 and he sees something very interesting, a thirteen foot long 932 01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:27.599 what looked like a rugby football with spider landing ear legs. 933 01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:30.400 There were six of them, with a protrusion sticking down. 934 01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:33.039 It had a hatch on the left side, and then 935 01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:35.480 like a crew compartment that swept back to the tail 936 01:01:35.519 --> 01:01:39.599 of the aircraft itself. Now, before he saw that, he 937 01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:44.519 also saw two humanoid looking beings, small statud wearing a 938 01:01:44.519 --> 01:01:48.199 one piece type fitting flight suit. They had oversized, had 939 01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:53.159 oversized eyes, and they were collecting lavender plants. So I've 940 01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:57.880 got multiple

cases of UFO occupants that seemed to be 941 01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:02.880 interested in our agriculture. Like many cases, they're picking grass, 942 01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:06.760 they're picking the lavender, they're picking flowers. Are they interested 943 01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:12.039 in our agriculture? And I thought it's very interesting where 944 01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:16.880 Steven Spielberg in his movie Et, the first five minutes 945 01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:20.000 of that film is devoted to Et trying to save 946 01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:25.440 a plant. It's like, what is the interest that they have? 947 01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:29.199 There must be some kind of connection there. This is 948 01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:32.639 another view of the craft itself. Now, Maurice Mass got 949 01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:35.639 real close to these beings. One of them picked up 950 01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:38.239 what looked like a doll rod about two inches in 951 01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:41.840 diameter sixteen inches in length, and he pointed that doll 952 01:02:41.960 --> 01:02:45.280 rod toward Maurice Mass and there was an energy being 953 01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:49.119 that came out, struck him, put him in a state 954 01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:52.559 of you could call it stasis, where he couldn't move, 955 01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:56.679 but he could still see the beings. They went into 956 01:02:56.760 --> 01:02:59.800 the side of the craft, the hatch closed, and then 957 01:02:59.840 --> 01:03:03.440 the thing took off. I consider him a reliable witness. 958 01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:05.679 And there's a number of reasons why I'm going to 959 01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:07.079 move on to the next one here. This gives you 960 01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:09.960 an idea of what this may have looked like during 961 01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:12.559 the Maurice Mass encounter here and this is all an 962 01:03:12.599 --> 01:03:17.960 Eleavender plant Field of all places, Boston Globe, July eighth, 963 01:03:18.079 --> 01:03:21.519 nineteen sixty five, flying saucer or secret plane. They go 964 01:03:21.599 --> 01:03:25.440 into great detail on this case in this newspaper clipping here. 965 01:03:25.559 --> 01:03:32.119 Now we move on to my personal favorite Project blue bookcase. Now, 966 01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:35.480 Project blue Book was the Air Force investigation that started 967 01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:37.840 in nineteen forty seven. It went all the way to 968 01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:40.119 nineteen sixty nine and then they closed it all down. 969 01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:42.880 But there were a number of cases, at least seven 970 01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:46.039 hundred and one cases that were never explained that they 971 01:03:46.159 --> 01:03:48.880 just could not explain away. This was not balloons or 972 01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:52.760 birds or sightings of venus. This is something else here now, 973 01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:56.559 of all those cases, personally, I believe this is the 974

01:03:56.719 --> 01:04:00.719 highest level of credibility. It's the most powerful one. And 975 01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:03.840 again this is not my case. This is an official 976 01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:10.679 US Air Force Project blue bookcase. March twenty third, nineteen 977 01:04:10.800 --> 01:04:15.519 sixty six, near Temple, Oklahoma. Our witness is a man 978 01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:19.239 named Eddie Lasen. He was a private pilot. He was 979 01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:22.719 a flight instructor. He had eight thousand hours pilot in command. 980 01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:26.679 He was an aircraft recognition expert, and he was an 981 01:04:26.719 --> 01:04:31.920 electrical technician instructor at Shepherd Air Force Base. This is 982 01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:34.360 a credible witness. You could not ask for a better guy. 983 01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:37.440 So he's driving at five oh five in the morning 984 01:04:37.639 --> 01:04:41.679 on his commute to Shepherd Air Force Base. The sun 985 01:04:41.800 --> 01:04:43.519 was coming up over the horizon, but it was still 986 01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:46.880 a little bit dark out, and he said that something 987 01:04:47.199 --> 01:04:51.360 was blocking the road. And this craft looked all the 988 01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:56.440 world like an overturned bowling pin sitting ninety degrees crossing 989 01:04:56.559 --> 01:05:00.000 perpendicular to the roadway. So he kind of slammed up 990 01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.079 on the brakes and he described it as follows number one. 991 01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:06.400 This craft was seventy five feet in length, a minimum 992 01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:09.159 of eight feet tall. On the far right hand side 993 01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:10.880 of the craft, it looked like it had a bubble 994 01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:13.920 transparent canopy taken directly off of B twenty six bomber 995 01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:16.679 for World War II. The whole thing was standing on 996 01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:19.960 pogo landing your legs three feet off the asphalt road. 997 01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:24.840 There were two beaming spotlights shining forward, two beaming spotlights 998 01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:29.280 shining vertically downward, and then there was an air stair door. 999 01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:34.239 And then he said there was a man standing next 1000 01:05:34.280 --> 01:05:38.039 to this stairway. This was not an alien. This is 1001 01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:41.239 not an extraterrestrial. This was a human. This was a man. 1002 01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:45.360 He was wearing a two piece green military fatigues. He 1003 01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:48.199 had a baseball cap with the bill turned up. He 1004 01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:52.000 was shining a flashlight at the bottom of the stairs. 1005 01:05:52.079 --> 01:05:55.679 Now above the stairs and aft on the top of 1006 01:05:55.679 --> 01:05:59.760 the craft itself, there was a stinger or spire that 1007 01:05:59.840 --> 01:06:05.079 swept back to an eight inch diameter sphere. Just aft 1008 01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:07.440 of the airstair door. On the right hand side, there 1009 01:06:07.519 --> 01:06:10.519 was a circular porthole window that was three and a 1010 01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:13.719 half feet in diameter that was divided into four equal 1011 01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:19.599 pie segments. Now just aft of that porthole window were 1012 01:06:19.639 --> 01:06:25.599 the letters written in black vertically TL four to seven 1013 01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:29.760 six eight, and I have a one hundred dollars cash 1014 01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:34.760 reward for anyone on this planet that can tell me 1015 01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:39.559 and prove to me with documented physical evidence what that means. 1016 01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:42.360 I don't know what TL four seven six eight. I've 1017 01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:44.880 been trying to track it down for years. There might 1018 01:06:44.920 --> 01:06:47.159 be someone out there that does. Now I think what 1019 01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:49.880 it is, which I don't know for sure. I think 1020 01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:55.719 it's an Atomic Energy Commission registration number. It was the 1021 01:06:55.840 --> 01:07:01.280 US Navy in conjunction with the AECOM Energy Commission, because 1022 01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:03.920 these you know, some of these things are nuclear and 1023 01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:07.599 a lot of the programs that were procured with the 1024 01:07:07.639 --> 01:07:12.400 atomic bomb, they already had classifications stamped on that. So 1025 01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:16.920 they leapfrogged those engineers into a lot of these programs 1026 01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:21.920 in conjunction with Lawrence Livermore Laboratories, Los Alamos, AEC in 1027 01:07:21.960 --> 01:07:24.840 the United States Navy. That's who I think is driving 1028 01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:28.880 the cover up and the research organization. So if anyone 1029 01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:32.159 knows what that actually means, let me know. And you 1030 01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:34.599 get a hundred bucks. I know it's not much, but 1031 01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:37.320 we're operating on a shoestring budget here. Now, at the 1032 01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:42.000 very end of this craft there were control surfaces that 1033 01:07:42.039 --> 01:07:47.599 were way too small to be aerodynamically efficient. Now, Eddie 1034 01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:51.760 Laxon was walking back to the trunk of the vehicle. 1035 01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:53.599 He had a camera. He was going to snap a 1036 01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:57.400 shot of this thing. As he did that, the man, 1037 01:07:57.519 --> 01:07:59.440 I remember we're talking about a man here, he was 1038 01:07:59.440 --> 01:08:03.159 not an ailing. He scurried up these airstair doors. And 1039 01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:07.280 then the report says there was a high pitched drilling 1040 01:08:07.400 --> 01:08:12.639 noise like something was spooling up like a Whimshurst generator

1041 01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:17.720 or something. The whole craft levitates off the pavement, the 1042 01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:20.760 landing gear legs retract into the bottom of the craft. 1043 01:08:21.760 --> 01:08:24.640 It sits there for like thirty seconds and then departs 1044 01:08:24.680 --> 01:08:27.920 like a spark on a grinding wheel and makes no 1045 01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:31.600 sonic boom. So bottom line is that we had the 1046 01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:36.800 technology in nineteen sixty six. Two looks like go exo 1047 01:08:36.800 --> 01:08:41.720 atmospheric and don't create a sonic foot footprint sonic boom footprint. 1048 01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:45.000 So we had the technology to do away with liquid 1049 01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:48.479 and solid rockets by at least nineteen sixty six. Okay, 1050 01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:53.079 Now this is Eddie Leason's original drawing, and you can 1051 01:08:53.119 --> 01:08:56.399 see he's got dimensions here seventy five feet, it's eight 1052 01:08:56.439 --> 01:08:59.600 feet tall. He's got the bright lights, he's got the 1053 01:08:59.760 --> 01:09:02.760 X marks the spot where the man was, we've got 1054 01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:05.279 the airstair door, and we've got the TL four seven 1055 01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:09.479 six eight. Now, if you look at this drawing by 1056 01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:14.520 Eddie Lason, and you look at the dimensions here given, 1057 01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:17.359 if this thing is seventy five feet in length and 1058 01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:21.600 it's eight feet tall, then the entire left end of 1059 01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:24.600 the craft needs to be stretched out way to the left. 1060 01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:28.560 This thing is out of scale. I'm cutting him a 1061 01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:30.760 brake because he was dealing with an eight and a 1062 01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:33.680 half by eleven sheet of paper. It wasn't to scale 1063 01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:37.600 because he was scrunched and was conformed and confined to 1064 01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:40.720 just an eighth size sheet of paper. I understand what 1065 01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:44.159 he did. So I spent a day looking over the case, 1066 01:09:44.399 --> 01:09:49.279 reading the report, looking at his testimony, and really studying it, 1067 01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:51.800 and came up with this drawing, which is a much 1068 01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:55.119 more accurate representation of what he actually saw. Now, a 1069 01:09:55.159 --> 01:09:59.039 couple things I want to talk about. Eddie Lason said 1070 01:09:59.079 --> 01:10:03.199 that he could feel the hair on his arm standing up, 1071 01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:08.479 so within this localized area he was permeated in a 1072 01:10:08.520 --> 01:10:13.640 static electrical field. Number Two, there was what looked like 1073 01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:21.000 naval Admiral Chevron's on this guy's shoulders here, which is 1074 01:10:21.079 --> 01:10:25.199 screaming the man made

technology. Number Three, he said that 1075 01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:29.359 if he was in Oklahoma City that afternoon and this 1076 01:10:29.439 --> 01:10:32.479 guy was there, he would recognize him. That's how close 1077 01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:36.439 he was to this guy whoever was shining that flashlight. 1078 01:10:37.079 --> 01:10:38.600 He was that close to him. I'm going to move 1079 01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:41.119 on to the next slide here. Now let's go back 1080 01:10:41.159 --> 01:10:44.159 to this stinger or spire we were talked about this earlier. 1081 01:10:44.760 --> 01:10:49.600 Every single feature on these UFOs there's a reason for it. 1082 01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:52.359 It's not pap hazard. There is a form, fit and 1083 01:10:52.439 --> 01:10:55.960 function to everything on these vehicles. So I started looking 1084 01:10:55.960 --> 01:11:00.319 at this, and I'm thinking, what in God's name is 1085 01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:03.600 a prong with a ball sticking out of these UFOs 1086 01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:06.680 and it keeps on popping up over and over and 1087 01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:11.880 over again. Do aliens really need this where they stamp 1088 01:11:12.680 --> 01:11:16.199 markings on the side of their craft with American letters? 1089 01:11:16.840 --> 01:11:19.760 What's going on here? So I started looking at high 1090 01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:23.720 voltage electrical equipment. And if you look at a Wimshurst 1091 01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:27.119 generator on this picture to the right here, you've got 1092 01:11:27.159 --> 01:11:30.520 these prongs sticking out of the Wimshurst generator and at 1093 01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:33.199 the end of the prong there's a ball. There's a sphere, 1094 01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:38.720 and these are static electrical discharge spheres. So I am proposing, 1095 01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:41.279 which I think it's more than a proposal. I think 1096 01:11:41.319 --> 01:11:44.279 it's a legitimate theory that what we're looking at on 1097 01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:48.600 a lot of these UFOs are these static electrical discharge spheres. 1098 01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:52.239 Because the witnesses say that there was a static electrical 1099 01:11:52.359 --> 01:11:54.840 charge and their hair stood up on their arms, it's 1100 01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:59.000 all checking the boxes. It's completely checking the boxes. Here. 1101 01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:03.119 Now here is the original map drawn by Eddie Lason. 1102 01:12:03.239 --> 01:12:06.760 So you've got Highway sixty five and Highway seventy. This 1103 01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:10.800 is not too far from Oklahoma City. And you can 1104 01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:14.880 see that his map indicates that it's approximately one half 1105 01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:19.359 mile west of that intersection. This is his original sketch here. 1106 01:12:19.560 --> 01:12:22.359 So of course I went on to the computer, and 1107 01:12:23.439 --> 01:12:26.800 if you go one half mile west from the intersection 1108 01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:30.359 of Highway sixty five and seventy, I'm going to move 1109 01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:32.720 on to the next slide. What you're going to see 1110 01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:37.039 is this right here. So if we could be here 1111 01:12:37.159 --> 01:12:41.279 on the night of March twenty third, nineteen sixty six, 1112 01:12:42.319 --> 01:12:44.640 and we were standing right here, and I believe we 1113 01:12:44.680 --> 01:12:47.600 are plus or minus ten feet where this actually took place, 1114 01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:50.520 we would be looking directly at that side of the 1115 01:12:50.560 --> 01:12:53.479 craft with the TL four seven six eight written on 1116 01:12:53.520 --> 01:12:55.479 the side of it. We'd be right here, Carl, this 1117 01:12:55.520 --> 01:13:01.079 is where we'd be, So you could be here. I 1118 01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:04.039 wish we could go back in time and get some 1119 01:13:04.159 --> 01:13:07.119 flash photos of it where we could see this man. 1120 01:13:07.399 --> 01:13:13.840 And I am certain that elements within the military industrial 1121 01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:18.680 complex they know all about this. They know algy, they 1122 01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:23.319 know about the technology trail, they know about the defense contractors, 1123 01:13:23.359 --> 01:13:28.439 they know about the national laboratories that built the propulsion system, 1124 01:13:29.119 --> 01:13:31.399 they know about the flight crew. And I don't even 1125 01:13:31.399 --> 01:13:33.800 think this was the pilot. I think this is a 1126 01:13:33.880 --> 01:13:37.119 maintenance personnel. The pilot was still in the crew compartment. 1127 01:13:37.680 --> 01:13:40.279 I think this is not even the pilot of the craft. Right, 1128 01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:44.159 let's move on here. So this is the official Project 1129 01:13:44.199 --> 01:13:46.239 blue Book index card. I'm not going to read the 1130 01:13:46.279 --> 01:13:48.520 whole thing, but just the first two sentences here. This 1131 01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:52.479 is official Project blue Book. It says observer spotted object 1132 01:13:52.600 --> 01:13:57.199 parked on highway in front of his car. Observer stopped 1133 01:13:57.199 --> 01:14:01.039 car and got out to investigate. But as he got 1134 01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:04.760 close to the object, a man, not an alien, It says, 1135 01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:08.680 a man apparently entered the object, and immediately the object 1136 01:14:08.720 --> 01:14:11.399 began to rise from the ground. All right, let's move 1137 01:14:11.439 --> 01:14:15.239 on here. This is Lawton Morning Press, March twenty fourth, 1138 01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:21.239 nineteen sixty six, says templeman meets UFO on highway. Wichita 1139 01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:25.560 Falls Times, March twenty third, nineteen sixty six. Strange flying 1140 01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:29.159 objects sighted. Okay, move on to the next one. Here, 1141 01:14:29.199 -->

01:14:32.760 a couple of bullet items. William Eddie Laxon was a 1142 01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:35.960 pilot since nineteen forty one. He had eight thousand hours 1143 01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:39.039 of flight time. He taught a course in Aircraft recognition 1144 01:14:39.159 --> 01:14:42.800 number two. Object rose from the ground with the sound 1145 01:14:42.920 --> 01:14:46.920 of a high speed electric drill, hissing geese, or of 1146 01:14:46.920 --> 01:14:52.159 a welding torch. Other witnesses describe it as bacon frying 1147 01:14:52.199 --> 01:14:55.840 on a platter. Okay, I just love these descriptions here. 1148 01:14:56.079 --> 01:14:59.479 So you've got this high pitched drilling noise just before 1149 01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:03.000 this UF takes off. The craft caused the hair on 1150 01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:05.920 his arms and head to stand up. Yet we talked 1151 01:15:05.920 --> 01:15:09.600 about the static electrical field. The man standing next to 1152 01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:13.159 the craft was wearing Gi fatigues and had chevrons on 1153 01:15:13.239 --> 01:15:17.840 his uniforms. So now we're talking about military rank the 1154 01:15:17.960 --> 01:15:22.960 ranking guy, right, Yeah, yep, okay. Laxon stated that he 1155 01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:27.359 would quote recognize the man if he saw him in 1156 01:15:27.479 --> 01:15:32.279 Oklahoma City tomorrow. So let's see, how how close do 1157 01:15:32.319 --> 01:15:34.800 you have to beat to someone to recognize them if 1158 01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:38.439 you're standing away. Well, I don't know what that number is. 1159 01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:41.920 He was pretty close, pretty close. 1160 01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:44.760 Right to recognize what he looked like the next day, Yeah, 1161 01:15:45.119 --> 01:15:47.640 all right, So I think we got a world exclusive 1162 01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:50.319 here thanks to Monty Earwood. Want to give him credit. 1163 01:15:51.159 --> 01:15:55.319 And he went all the way to the Philippines, sent 1164 01:15:55.359 --> 01:15:59.039 the blueprints out and they made they made this model 1165 01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:02.479 for me and he helped make this here, so I 1166 01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:04.880 want to give credit. Now it has lights on the inside, 1167 01:16:05.359 --> 01:16:07.600 and I'm not saying this is perfect, but this gives 1168 01:16:07.640 --> 01:16:10.239 people an idea of what Eddie lex and encountered back 1169 01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:13.359 in nineteen sixty six. So we've got the spire, We've 1170 01:16:13.399 --> 01:16:16.560 got the porthole window. I put the TL four seven 1171 01:16:16.680 --> 01:16:18.359 six eight on the side of the craft. We've got 1172 01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:21.680 the air stair door. The lights on the bottom go 1173 01:16:21.720 --> 01:16:23.560 on to the next side. Here, this is almost a 1174 01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:28.399 direct side view from a fifteen degree overhead looking down. 1175 01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:31.239 We've got the landing gear legs. We'll do one more here. 1176 01:16:31.279 --> 01:16:33.720 We've got the control surfaces on the f side of 1177 01:16:33.760 --> 01:16:36.920 the craft. And then this is what that porthole window 1178 01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:39.760 look like. Here, this is what the stairs looks like. So, 1179 01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:42.760 I mean, it would be so cool to see this 1180 01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:45.039 guy running up these stairs. I would love it. I 1181 01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:47.920 would love it again. I got one hundred dollars cash reward. 1182 01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:51.119 Anyone who knows what this means and can prove it 1183 01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:55.640 with documented paperwork. Boom, we got you covered. These are 1184 01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:58.399 the control surfaces, which I don't think have anything to 1185 01:16:58.439 --> 01:17:00.680 do with aerodynamics whatsoever. 1186 01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:02.199 Yeah, they're pretty small. 1187 01:17:02.399 --> 01:17:07.640 They're small. The Houston Post, April tenth, nineteen sixty six. Laxon, 1188 01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:11.439 who was familiar with aircraft, said he had no thoughts 1189 01:17:11.520 --> 01:17:14.960 about the craft being from outer space or even from 1190 01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:19.720 another country. Quote, it's an American piece of machinery, he said. 1191 01:17:19.800 --> 01:17:24.039 It's nothing foreign. This is coming from a credible witness. 1192 01:17:24.039 --> 01:17:28.199 Something considered here all right, The Daily Oklahoma, March first, 1193 01:17:28.319 --> 01:17:31.600 nineteen seventy one. And on the upper right you see 1194 01:17:31.720 --> 01:17:34.000 Eddie Lackson. That is the man of the hour. Here 1195 01:17:34.479 --> 01:17:40.439 the bottom is another sketcher. But it says citing now rude, okay. 1196 01:17:40.640 --> 01:17:44.720 In other words, Eddie Lackson, when he talked about this, 1197 01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:49.760 he was ridiculed, he was condescended to, he was made 1198 01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:53.920 fun of, he was laughed at, and he regretted ever 1199 01:17:54.159 --> 01:17:58.600 even coming forward. And what that does It actually adds 1200 01:17:58.760 --> 01:18:02.560 credibility to the case. It does not detract credibility. It 1201 01:18:02.600 --> 01:18:05.920 actually adds more credibility to the craft. Here to the case, 1202 01:18:07.079 --> 01:18:09.479 and here was another newspaper clipping here that says what 1203 01:18:09.560 --> 01:18:13.439 I saw was definitely not from space. The man was 1204 01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:16.640 wearing fatigues and had a cap with the bill broken 1205 01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:20.119 up like air Force mechanics were lex and said it 1206 01:18:20.239 --> 01:18:23.600 had common English letters on it. So, according to Eddie Lackson, 1207 01:18:24.079 --> 01:18:28.800 who is a very reliable witness, this was no alien spacecraft. 1208 01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:33.039 This was one of

ours. We had this technology in 1209 01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:36.840 nineteen sixty six. So I put this up here. We 1210 01:18:36.960 --> 01:18:43.000 should all consider very carefully the tremendous implications about what 1211 01:18:43.079 --> 01:18:45.600 that statement really means. What I'm referring to is what 1212 01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:50.520 Eddie Leason's assessment was right, Because if that's true, if 1213 01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:57.520 what Eddie Laxon saw is actually true, then what was 1214 01:18:57.560 --> 01:19:00.800 all this for. If we already had the technology to 1215 01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:04.840 travel into space without using liquid rockets or solid rockets 1216 01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:07.960 as early as March of nineteen sixty six, then what 1217 01:19:08.039 --> 01:19:10.640 was the Saturn five rocket for? What was the Apollo 1218 01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:14.920 program for? If we already had this technology. So you've 1219 01:19:14.920 --> 01:19:18.239 got Neil Armstrong, you've got buzz Aldron, you've got Michael 1220 01:19:18.279 --> 01:19:23.319 Collins blasting off, and then Neil Armstrong and buzz Aldron 1221 01:19:23.479 --> 01:19:28.840 land on July twentieth nineteen sixty nine in this huge rocket. 1222 01:19:28.840 --> 01:19:30.399 It took them to get there. I'm going to go 1223 01:19:30.439 --> 01:19:32.439 on to the next slide here, and you can see 1224 01:19:32.439 --> 01:19:34.680 one of the Saturn F one engurines, and you've got 1225 01:19:34.680 --> 01:19:37.159 all these turbo pumps, and you've got these valves, and 1226 01:19:37.159 --> 01:19:40.720 you can see how complex this thing is. Any one 1227 01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:44.279 of these systems fail and you run the risk of 1228 01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:49.319 losing the rocket and the crew itself. All right, total 1229 01:19:49.359 --> 01:19:52.760 combined throw a seven point five million pounds. Is all 1230 01:19:52.800 --> 01:19:56.520 of this really necessary? I mean, Eddie Lexin didn't have 1231 01:19:56.560 --> 01:19:58.880 all this in the craft that he saw. It was 1232 01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:02.159 a very simple look vehicle. There were no exhaust ports, 1233 01:20:02.199 --> 01:20:06.880 there were no rocket nozzles, no turbopumps, no liquid rockets. 1234 01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:12.800 What it's saying here, what the evidence is showing, is 1235 01:20:12.840 --> 01:20:16.319 that we have a concurrent secret space program going on. 1236 01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:19.600 Number one, we've got NASA was such a public relations 1237 01:20:19.640 --> 01:20:23.119 space program. Number two, we have a much more privatized 1238 01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:29.119 defense contractor deep black program using super secret classified aircraft 1239 01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:35.239 utilizing electrogravitics and magnetohydrodynamic propulsion systems that go way beyond 1240 01:20:35.800 --> 01:20:39.640 liquid rockets and solid rocket boosters. That's what the evidence 1241 01:20:39.880 --> 01:20:40.399 is showing. 1242 01:20:40.479 --> 01:20:43.840 Us here. But it's more of a psyop just it's. 1243 01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:45.720 A public relation smoke stream. 1244 01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:46.119 You know. 1245 01:20:46.439 --> 01:20:48.720 They want people to think that this is the best 1246 01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:52.359 we've got. This is the best we've got. Now, Carl, 1247 01:20:52.680 --> 01:20:54.800 I have a question for you. Do you remember where 1248 01:20:54.800 --> 01:20:57.199 you were January twenty eighth, nineteen eighty six? 1249 01:21:00.479 --> 01:21:04.960 No, I don't you refresh my memory? 1250 01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:07.800 I might, I'm sure you do. And you can see 1251 01:21:07.840 --> 01:21:08.560 the slide. 1252 01:21:08.279 --> 01:21:10.920 Here right, Oh yeah, Challenger, Yes. 1253 01:21:10.840 --> 01:21:15.079 Okay, Challenger. Yeah. So on January twenty eighth, nineteen eighty six, 1254 01:21:15.159 --> 01:21:18.319 we lost the seven Challenger astronauts, right, I. 1255 01:21:18.319 --> 01:21:20.960 Actually skipped school to stay home that day. 1256 01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:22.520 In was okay? 1257 01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:23.159 Right? 1258 01:21:23.239 --> 01:21:24.479 So did you watch it live? 1259 01:21:24.800 --> 01:21:25.159 Yes? 1260 01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:26.039 You did? 1261 01:21:26.359 --> 01:21:26.560 Yes? 1262 01:21:26.640 --> 01:21:28.039 So you saw all this then? 1263 01:21:28.119 --> 01:21:28.359 Right? 1264 01:21:28.439 --> 01:21:28.840 I did? 1265 01:21:29.399 --> 01:21:33.039 Okay, Well, I was in high school. I didn't see 1266 01:21:33.039 --> 01:21:36.560 it live, but I remember it very well. And my 1267 01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:42.199 question is would any of these astronauts climb into that 1268 01:21:44.840 --> 01:21:50.199 dinosaur technology rocket if they knew about Eddie Lackson's technology 1269 01:21:50.239 --> 01:21:53.079 and what he saw they didn't have any liquid rockets 1270 01:21:53.119 --> 01:21:55.199 or saw, they would never have climbed into it. 1271 01:21:55.359 --> 01:21:58.279 No, they would just drive me climbing into a huge 1272 01:21:58.359 --> 01:21:59.079 Roman candle. 1273 01:21:59.119 --> 01:22:01.960 That's what that's right, that's right now. I think you 1274 01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:07.439 know about teacher Christa mccauliff. They weeded out eleven thousand candidates, 1275 01:22:08.319 --> 01:22:11.800 and you know what, in this case, NASA got it right. 1276 01:22:12.359 --> 01:22:16.920 They picked the perfect person. Christa mccauliffe was the highest, 1277 01:22:17.279 --> 01:22:20.439 the best person they could ever pick for being a 1278 01:22:20.760 --> 01:22:24.119 teacher in space. She would never have climbed in that thing. 1279 01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:27.479 If she knew that there was technology lurking in the 1280 01:22:27.520 --> 01:22:31.439 black world that had no risk of blowing up like 1281 01:22:31.640 --> 01:22:34.720 a liquid

rocket or solid they would never have got 1282 01:22:34.760 --> 01:22:38.119 we would we'd still be having her today. It's just 1283 01:22:38.359 --> 01:22:41.000 such a travesty that this actually happened. And there's another 1284 01:22:41.239 --> 01:22:43.960 thing to this which I don't think is connected to Challenger, 1285 01:22:44.079 --> 01:22:46.239 but in a way it is. But we'll go into 1286 01:22:46.279 --> 01:22:49.760 that here. That brings us to McClellan Air Force Space 1287 01:22:49.880 --> 01:22:54.439 nineteen seventy three. And this comes from Chris Coffee via 1288 01:22:54.720 --> 01:22:59.960 test pilot astronaut Ellison Unizuka source UFO Crash Retrieval's page 1289 01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:02.920 one F three, Case three. So I got to bring 1290 01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:06.159 in at least one Leonard Stringfield crash re trible case 1291 01:23:06.199 --> 01:23:11.800 here And this is a photograph of test pilot Ellison Unizuka, 1292 01:23:11.840 --> 01:23:17.039 who will become very important here now. According to Chris Koffee, 1293 01:23:19.479 --> 01:23:23.880 Ellison Unizuka told Chris Coffee that he was at McClellan 1294 01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:26.840 Air Force Base back in nineteen seventy three where a 1295 01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:29.800 number of pilots were called into a briefing room. There 1296 01:23:29.840 --> 01:23:32.840 was an Air Force general there. They had a sixteen 1297 01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:36.680 millimeter film projector there and the lights went down. This 1298 01:23:36.720 --> 01:23:40.399 is This is according to Ellison Unizuka, lights went down, 1299 01:23:41.119 --> 01:23:43.479 the general turns out on this movie projector and then 1300 01:23:43.520 --> 01:23:47.239 projected on the far wall are at least two medical 1301 01:23:47.279 --> 01:23:53.000 doctors dressed up in medical regalia here, and they were 1302 01:23:53.039 --> 01:23:57.800 examining two deceased et corpses on concrete slabs, and he 1303 01:23:57.880 --> 01:24:01.079 remembered thinking to himself, Oh my god, I can't believe 1304 01:24:01.079 --> 01:24:04.279 it now. A couple minutes later, the lights went back on, 1305 01:24:05.159 --> 01:24:08.640 film projector shut off and there was no debrief. So 1306 01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:11.520 this is another one of these cases where it appears 1307 01:24:11.560 --> 01:24:16.279 that the United States government, the US Air Force, was 1308 01:24:16.560 --> 01:24:20.720 using these pilots as a trial balloon to see what 1309 01:24:20.800 --> 01:24:23.560 their reaction would be. Could they handle this new reality 1310 01:24:23.680 --> 01:24:27.439 or would they crumble? Would their religious convictions and beliefs 1311 01:24:27.520 --> 01:24:30.560 be challenged? Could they handle this new reality. And the 1312 01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:34.319 thinking is, if our best test pilots couldn't handle it, 1313 01:24:34.359 --> 01:24:38.239 how much more so could the general public not handle this? Now, 1314 01:24:38.960 --> 01:24:41.640 now that it's been so many years later, and this 1315 01:24:41.840 --> 01:24:45.760 slow drip acclamation process has been going on for literally 1316 01:24:45.840 --> 01:24:52.039 eighty years now, through TV, magazines, movies, newspaper, an endless 1317 01:24:52.079 --> 01:24:56.720 amount of pumping UFO and aliens into the culture, into 1318 01:24:56.800 --> 01:25:01.159 the psyche of the American public. Are we ready or 1319 01:25:01.760 --> 01:25:05.119 is there a terrible truth behind this? I'm not sure 1320 01:25:05.199 --> 01:25:08.159 there's a terrible truth. I think we could be looking 1321 01:25:08.199 --> 01:25:11.199 at a scenario where they're creating a threat narrative where 1322 01:25:11.239 --> 01:25:14.159 there is no threat narrative. Let's move on here. So 1323 01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:16.520 here's the illustration I put together that gives you an 1324 01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:19.880 idea what this may have looked like. You've got the 1325 01:25:19.920 --> 01:25:22.880 projector here we've got the body. So here's another one 1326 01:25:22.920 --> 01:25:25.319 of these film clips that need to be released by 1327 01:25:25.359 --> 01:25:27.439 the Trump administration. But you know we're not going to 1328 01:25:27.479 --> 01:25:27.760 get it. 1329 01:25:28.119 --> 01:25:29.399 Of course, we're just going to. 1330 01:25:29.560 --> 01:25:32.640 Yep, we're just going to keep on getting this nothing 1331 01:25:32.720 --> 01:25:36.520 burger tranches that go by, and you know they're going 1332 01:25:36.600 --> 01:25:39.920 to weigh this out when when Trump leaves office, it's 1333 01:25:39.960 --> 01:25:42.039 going to stop immediately. It's probably going to stop a 1334 01:25:42.079 --> 01:25:45.119 long time prior to that. But this is our last 1335 01:25:45.239 --> 01:25:49.600 hope to get this information declassified. We need to raise 1336 01:25:49.640 --> 01:25:54.880 awareness that these type gun camera footage, motion picture film footage, 1337 01:25:54.880 --> 01:25:58.960 and eight by ten black and white glossy photographs actually exist. 1338 01:25:59.079 --> 01:26:04.439 So bottom line here is that Ellison Uniezuka was going 1339 01:26:04.479 --> 01:26:08.359 to have a basically a one on one interview with 1340 01:26:08.520 --> 01:26:11.079 Leonard Stringfield. They had it all planned out and he 1341 01:26:11.159 --> 01:26:15.000 was going to tell Leonard Springfield all about this movie clip. 1342 01:26:16.079 --> 01:26:20.880 Two weeks before that scheduled meeting was to take place, 1343 01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:24.000 he died in the Challenger accident. So we were this 1344 01:26:24.199 --> 01:26:27.960 close of getting his actual testimony, but it was already 1345 01:26:28.000 --> 01:26:34.439 too late. And I consider Ellison Uniezuka an absolute reliable witness. 1346 01:26:34.760 --> 01:26:37.880 Why would he say that as a joke, No way, 1347 01:26:38.039 --> 01:26:41.159 not a chance.

This is a reliable witness here, and 1348 01:26:41.199 --> 01:26:44.840 we lost everybody in the Challenger accident. Okay, late August 1349 01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:50.600 nineteen seventy, Calbury, Canada, Calgary, Canada. This is a chiropractor 1350 01:26:50.680 --> 01:26:53.760 on a horse ride and they were just kind of 1351 01:26:54.560 --> 01:26:57.199 riding off here into the countryside, and he said that 1352 01:26:57.239 --> 01:27:01.159 there was a medium sized cloud that was following them. 1353 01:27:01.840 --> 01:27:05.479 Emerging from this cloud is a forty foot diameter dish 1354 01:27:05.479 --> 01:27:09.000 shaped craft that had a blue coronal discharge wrapped around 1355 01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:11.359 the outer circumference, which you see in my illustration here. 1356 01:27:11.399 --> 01:27:14.319 Now on the bottom of it there were two counter 1357 01:27:14.600 --> 01:27:19.039 rotating what looked like heating registers or grates, and on 1358 01:27:19.119 --> 01:27:23.159 the bottom of it it almost looked like Father Gills UFO. 1359 01:27:23.319 --> 01:27:25.760 It had four prongs sticking out of it. So here's 1360 01:27:25.880 --> 01:27:28.800 case number three of these prongs and I don't think 1361 01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:30.399 they're landing your legs. I'm gonna move on to the 1362 01:27:30.399 --> 01:27:33.039 next slight. Here's the original drawing that went with the case. 1363 01:27:33.640 --> 01:27:37.079 You can see these counter rotating vents, and then on 1364 01:27:37.119 --> 01:27:40.760 the bottom view you've got these antenna or prong sticking 1365 01:27:40.800 --> 01:27:44.479 out here. Great case, really great crase. Now moving on 1366 01:27:44.520 --> 01:27:48.520 to this one. This case is known as the Army 1367 01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:54.560 Helicopter Incident, Mansfield, Ohio, October eighteenth, nineteen seventy three. And 1368 01:27:54.600 --> 01:27:58.239 I want to preface this by saying that this case 1369 01:27:58.439 --> 01:28:04.279 is so ironclad, so solid, so credible that even Philip 1370 01:28:04.399 --> 01:28:08.720 Klass could not hit this. He could not latch onto this. 1371 01:28:08.720 --> 01:28:11.319 This was just too much for him. Even he couldn't 1372 01:28:11.359 --> 01:28:14.840 debunk this. So to set this up, You've got four 1373 01:28:14.880 --> 01:28:18.319 crew members in a LUH one huey and they're near Mansfield, 1374 01:28:18.359 --> 01:28:25.399 Ohio at night. It was the crewmember in the back 1375 01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:28.920 that saw the craft approaching the helicopter at a closure 1376 01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:31.119 rate of six hundred miles an hour, so he alerted 1377 01:28:31.119 --> 01:28:34.479 the pilot. Pilot pulled back the throttle, put the helicopter 1378 01:28:34.560 --> 01:28:39.039 in a dive. They were at seventeen hundred feet altitude 1379 01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:42.359 and they saw a cigar shaped craft that was fifty 1380 01:28:42.399 --> 01:28:44.359 feet in the

length that had a white light on 1381 01:28:44.399 --> 01:28:46.279 the right hand side. It had a red light on 1382 01:28:46.319 --> 01:28:48.600 the left hand side. There was a small dome on top. 1383 01:28:49.399 --> 01:28:52.840 As they are in a full descent, a green beam 1384 01:28:52.880 --> 01:28:55.159 of light came from the bottom of the UFO hit 1385 01:28:55.199 --> 01:28:59.359 the helicopter and started raising it. And they're diving down 1386 01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:02.800 to avoid this thing. It starts raising the helicopter like 1387 01:29:02.840 --> 01:29:06.119 an elevator. Once they get to threey eight hundred feet, 1388 01:29:06.119 --> 01:29:09.720 there's a thump. There's a physical thump that they could feel, 1389 01:29:10.199 --> 01:29:14.359 and then the green light dissipated from the bottom of 1390 01:29:14.399 --> 01:29:16.880 the craft and then they flew on from that point forward. 1391 01:29:16.960 --> 01:29:19.359 And what I want to point out here and this 1392 01:29:19.399 --> 01:29:22.520 is another article here by Fate magazine. They talk about 1393 01:29:22.960 --> 01:29:28.640 Major Coin and the UFO. The true story. This is 1394 01:29:28.680 --> 01:29:32.880 the Daily Call October twenty second, nineteen seventy three. Closure 1395 01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:35.439 rate was six hundred miles an hour. So someone had 1396 01:29:35.479 --> 01:29:40.159 the technology with no visible means or propulsion, no engine, 1397 01:29:40.199 --> 01:29:43.640 no ailerons, no flaps, no wings. This is back in 1398 01:29:43.720 --> 01:29:46.680 nineteen seventy three. This is years after Eddie Laxon, so 1399 01:29:46.720 --> 01:29:51.439 they already perfected the technology or someone did it went 1400 01:29:51.600 --> 01:29:55.199 all the way to the United Nations and I Philip 1401 01:29:55.239 --> 01:29:58.159 Klass could not debunk it. So you've got Eric Gary 1402 01:29:58.319 --> 01:30:02.680 Off to the left, j Jacques Valet, and then Colonel Coyne, 1403 01:30:02.680 --> 01:30:04.760 who was the pilot of the helicopter. He went to 1404 01:30:04.800 --> 01:30:07.920 the UN and they just could not debunk this case. 1405 01:30:09.399 --> 01:30:14.840 September tenth, nineteen seventy six. Caluza, California, primary eye witness, 1406 01:30:15.079 --> 01:30:18.640 was watching television in his home at eleven thirty pm 1407 01:30:18.680 --> 01:30:23.039 at night when all of a sudden, the air conditioning 1408 01:30:23.079 --> 01:30:25.520 went out and the television went out, and he was 1409 01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:28.239 still in his boxer brief. So he got off the couch, 1410 01:30:28.319 --> 01:30:31.079 went to the back where the circuit breaker was and 1411 01:30:31.159 --> 01:30:33.079 the next thing that he knew of, and this is 1412 01:30:33.119 --> 01:30:35.600 going to be very familiar now because we're already three 1413 01:30:35.640 --> 01:30:39.079 and four into this, we've got pattern recognition. He felt 1414 01:30:39.079

--> 01:30:42.720 the hair on his arms, the hair on his head, 1415 01:30:42.880 --> 01:30:46.000 and the hair on his chest. Not only was it 1416 01:30:46.119 --> 01:30:50.840 sticking up, but it was crackling. The entire area was 1417 01:30:51.000 --> 01:30:54.840 permeated in the static electrical field. He looks up and 1418 01:30:54.920 --> 01:30:57.560 he sees a one hundred and forty foot diameter dish 1419 01:30:57.560 --> 01:31:01.199 shaped craft. It had a dome on top, but it 1420 01:31:01.319 --> 01:31:05.880 wasn't just a standard dome. This dome had ridges on 1421 01:31:05.960 --> 01:31:09.800 it like an old lemon squeezer, like an orange juice squeezer. 1422 01:31:10.880 --> 01:31:14.279 On the bottom of it, it had conduit pipes that 1423 01:31:14.479 --> 01:31:19.239 terminated in frayed edges, okay, frayed endings. It also had 1424 01:31:19.239 --> 01:31:22.119 these prongs or protrusions sticking out of the bottom of it. 1425 01:31:22.479 --> 01:31:24.880 And then he said that there was another craft that 1426 01:31:25.079 --> 01:31:27.680 was half the size of the one that he was under, 1427 01:31:28.359 --> 01:31:31.319 and it was pulling power off the five hundred thousand 1428 01:31:31.359 --> 01:31:34.119 volte power lines, causing them to become cherry red. So 1429 01:31:34.239 --> 01:31:38.119 this is a CE one case, and it's a CE 1430 01:31:38.159 --> 01:31:40.800 two case because it had physical effects all right, let's 1431 01:31:40.840 --> 01:31:44.000 move on here now. He goes inside. He wakes up 1432 01:31:44.039 --> 01:31:46.279 his wife and two kids. They go to the back 1433 01:31:46.319 --> 01:31:49.399 of the room there, open up the blinds. They look 1434 01:31:49.439 --> 01:31:52.800 out the window and they see the large craft flanked 1435 01:31:52.840 --> 01:31:56.479 on either side of the two smaller craft and they're 1436 01:31:56.520 --> 01:32:00.479 pulling power off five hundred thousand volte power lines. And 1437 01:32:00.520 --> 01:32:03.359 then the craft in the middle goes from a dead 1438 01:32:03.479 --> 01:32:06.960 standstill to hovering over the low rise mountains in the 1439 01:32:06.960 --> 01:32:11.560 background in one second. It traversed twenty five miles in 1440 01:32:11.640 --> 01:32:15.960 one second. Wow, and did the same maneuver in the 1441 01:32:16.039 --> 01:32:20.239 exact same timeframe, so it had traversed fifty miles in 1442 01:32:20.319 --> 01:32:24.279 two seconds and made no sonic boom. And this is 1443 01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:28.760 just like incredible technology. At this point, the primary witness 1444 01:32:29.319 --> 01:32:32.560 is scared for his life and his family. He doesn't 1445 01:32:32.600 --> 01:32:35.079 know what he's dealing with, so he piles everyone to 1446 01:32:35.119 --> 01:32:38.239 the pickup truck. The kids are still in their pajamas. 1447 01:32:38.479 --> 01:32:40.560 The wife is over on the passenger side, and they 1448 01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:43.279 go screaming down the road at ninety miles an hour, 1449 01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:46.399 and the large craft starts following them. This is a 1450 01:32:46.399 --> 01:32:50.520 true story. Goes over the cab of the truck over 1451 01:32:50.560 --> 01:32:53.239 to the wife then goes back over to where he is. 1452 01:32:54.119 --> 01:32:58.399 They get over to the neighbor's house, slam on the brakes, 1453 01:32:58.439 --> 01:33:01.520 pile out of the truck. They start knocking on the 1454 01:33:01.560 --> 01:33:05.000 neighbor's door. The neighbors walk out, and now there's six 1455 01:33:05.119 --> 01:33:07.880 witnesses that saw the large craft depart at a forty 1456 01:33:07.880 --> 01:33:12.199 five degree angle. Incredible witnesses. They saw the craft depart, 1457 01:33:12.239 --> 01:33:14.640 They got a good look at it. Now here's the 1458 01:33:14.680 --> 01:33:20.319 newspaper clipping, San Antonio Express, February sixth, nineteen seventy seven. 1459 01:33:20.439 --> 01:33:24.000 You can see Bill Petcha over to the right. Family 1460 01:33:24.159 --> 01:33:29.560 tells of terror as a UFO chased a car at 1461 01:33:29.680 --> 01:33:32.760 ninety miles an hour, and you can see the drawing 1462 01:33:32.840 --> 01:33:34.439 that they've got there. I'm gonna move on to the 1463 01:33:34.520 --> 01:33:37.279 next slide. Now we want to look at this and 1464 01:33:37.399 --> 01:33:41.920 examine this. What are these ramen noodles doing on the 1465 01:33:41.920 --> 01:33:43.000 bottom of a UFO? 1466 01:33:43.239 --> 01:33:45.399 Right? More static discharge units. 1467 01:33:45.439 --> 01:33:48.960 Yeah, it's like there's a reason for everything on here. 1468 01:33:49.079 --> 01:33:52.520 You've got don't we have a dome, but it's a 1469 01:33:52.680 --> 01:33:56.560 ridge dome. Okay. We've got prong sticking out that look 1470 01:33:56.720 --> 01:34:00.800 like a dinner fork almost that's bent. And then we've 1471 01:34:00.840 --> 01:34:04.119 got these what I'm calling ramen noodles hanging out from 1472 01:34:04.119 --> 01:34:07.199 the bottom of the UFO that look like conduit pipes 1473 01:34:07.239 --> 01:34:11.279 with frayed edges, And I kept thinking, what in the 1474 01:34:11.319 --> 01:34:15.720 world do aliens that are one hundred million light years 1475 01:34:15.760 --> 01:34:19.039 ahead of us in technology? What are they doing roaming 1476 01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:24.319 around our atmosphere within our ground like one hundred feet 1477 01:34:24.359 --> 01:34:27.399 off the ground. What are they doing flying around with 1478 01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:31.159 these ramen noodles hanging out of the bottom. This just 1479 01:34:31.239 --> 01:34:34.880 doesn't make any sense at all. So I gave this 1480 01:34:35.000 --> 01:34:39.760 lecture at IUFOCS seven years ago and this guy comes 1481 01:34:39.840 --> 01:34:41.359 up to me here and I did a blow up 1482 01:34:41.399 --> 01:34:45.560 of these things, and he says, Mike, I know what 1483

01:34:45.720 --> 01:34:48.560 those are because I raised this to the audience. I'm like, 1484 01:34:48.600 --> 01:34:51.119 does anyone know what this is? He goes, yes, he 1485 01:34:51.199 --> 01:34:55.319 goes they're static wicks, and they're used to dissipate static 1486 01:34:55.359 --> 01:34:58.359 electrical charges. They're seen on the trailing edge of airliners 1487 01:34:59.520 --> 01:35:01.439 and it can depletely makes sense. So I did some 1488 01:35:01.520 --> 01:35:04.199 digging here and you can see this is what what 1489 01:35:04.279 --> 01:35:07.199 these static wicks look like. And then here is the 1490 01:35:07.319 --> 01:35:12.319 part number from solid signal part number one one or zero, 1491 01:35:12.399 --> 01:35:16.239 one hundred and ninety two dollars each. This is what 1492 01:35:20.239 --> 01:35:24.000 get there, and nick the form fit and function. I'm here. 1493 01:35:24.319 --> 01:35:26.680 Okay, you dropped out for Yeah, you dropped out for 1494 01:35:26.800 --> 01:35:27.319 just a second. 1495 01:35:27.359 --> 01:35:31.159 But it's you can hear me now, right, yes, sir? Okay, good, okay. 1496 01:35:31.239 --> 01:35:35.479 So what we're dealing with here is a is a 1497 01:35:35.520 --> 01:35:40.560 man made technology using high voltage electrical fields, and it's 1498 01:35:40.800 --> 01:35:44.960 posing as an alien spacecraft to hide their own deep 1499 01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:48.720 black programs. That is what I believe is going on here. Now, 1500 01:35:48.760 --> 01:35:51.840 there is a core of reality to this phenomenon because 1501 01:35:51.920 --> 01:35:56.439 these UFO have been reported in ancient Roman times and 1502 01:35:56.479 --> 01:35:59.960 we've got reports from Wahaco, Mexico in eighteen sixty four. 1503 01:36:00.479 --> 01:36:03.880 So I am absolutely not saying that everything that we 1504 01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:07.600 see in our skies is man made. That's just not consistent. 1505 01:36:07.680 --> 01:36:11.039 But when it comes to these types of cases where 1506 01:36:11.079 --> 01:36:16.439 you've got CE two cases with static electrical charges, you've 1507 01:36:16.439 --> 01:36:20.920 got the car engines going out, you've got static on 1508 01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:24.239 the radio, you have witnesses that describe the hair standing 1509 01:36:24.279 --> 01:36:28.279 up on their head. I'm calling it like I see it. 1510 01:36:28.279 --> 01:36:31.760 It's a man made technology. So that tracks with a 1511 01:36:31.920 --> 01:36:35.800 privatized defense contractor space program here. I think we got 1512 01:36:35.800 --> 01:36:40.319 time for a couple more. December nineteen seventy six, Dana Point, California. 1513 01:36:41.479 --> 01:36:43.560 The wife was driving down the road with her two 1514 01:36:43.720 --> 01:36:47.279 kids and she said that she saw a large, quote 1515 01:36:47.359 --> 01:36:51.159 unquote her words, fat frisbee go right through the windshield, 1516 01:36:51.560 --> 01:36:55.680 right across the windshield, and it had thousands of multi 1517 01:36:55.760 --> 01:36:59.159 colored computer processing lights and a red light on top 1518 01:36:59.199 --> 01:37:01.600 that was blinking. This is the best illustration that I 1519 01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:03.960 can put together here. I'm going to move on here. 1520 01:37:03.960 --> 01:37:06.960 Here is the data Point, California, nineteen seventy six. This 1521 01:37:07.039 --> 01:37:10.119 is the newspaper clipping and you can see their illustration. 1522 01:37:10.239 --> 01:37:12.960 This is what it looked out right outside the windshield 1523 01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:17.399 of this thing. Again, it was a fat frisbee, literally 1524 01:37:17.680 --> 01:37:22.279 hundreds of multicolored computer processing lights. Here is my very 1525 01:37:22.319 --> 01:37:25.560 early autocat drawing that gives you an idea of what 1526 01:37:25.600 --> 01:37:28.159 this may have looked like. Here, and one thing I 1527 01:37:28.239 --> 01:37:31.800 want to point out. This is the exact make and 1528 01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:35.479 model of car that they were driving. That she was driving. 1529 01:37:35.880 --> 01:37:40.239 And she said that once this thing passed by, it 1530 01:37:40.359 --> 01:37:44.039 tipped up ninety degrees and rolled away like a wagon wheel, 1531 01:37:44.119 --> 01:37:46.880 which I thought was very interesting. So here's what the 1532 01:37:46.880 --> 01:37:50.680 craft looked like as it departed like a wagon wheel. 1533 01:37:50.720 --> 01:37:55.119 So there's something to this concept of tipping up at 1534 01:37:55.199 --> 01:37:58.640 ninety degrees and then rolling away. There's something going on here, 1535 01:37:59.319 --> 01:38:02.720 all right. Next T one Cash Landrum incident, which we 1536 01:38:02.800 --> 01:38:05.560 talked about in the beginning. Here this is number two. 1537 01:38:06.640 --> 01:38:08.439 You can call it number two or number three. It 1538 01:38:08.439 --> 01:38:10.479 could be either one, but let's call it number three. 1539 01:38:11.199 --> 01:38:15.520 This is the Cash Landrum incident, December twenty ninth, nineteen eighty. William. 1540 01:38:16.079 --> 01:38:21.560 We've got Betty Cash, Vicky Landrum, Colby Landrum, and this 1541 01:38:21.600 --> 01:38:25.000 is December twenty ninth, nineteen eighty. They're driving down Time 1542 01:38:25.119 --> 01:38:29.920 Farm Road at night, right around nine thirty pm. And 1543 01:38:30.359 --> 01:38:33.880 it was Colby in the back that saw this first, 1544 01:38:34.039 --> 01:38:36.359 and he saw this white light approaching the area. It 1545 01:38:36.439 --> 01:38:40.000 lit up the entire area. Betty Cash slammed on the 1546 01:38:40.039 --> 01:38:45.399 brakes and Vicky Landrum flew forward and put her hands 1547 01:38:45.439 --> 01:38:50.079 on the dashboard and her hands were melted and embedded. 1548 01:38:50.439 --> 01:38:54.239 Her fingers were embedded into the dashboard and

left a 1549 01:38:54.399 --> 01:38:58.159 visible mark there. So that that's the first piece of evidence. 1550 01:38:58.720 --> 01:39:00.560 I'm going to move on to the next line. So 1551 01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:04.159 here you've got the primary eyewitness, Vicky Landrum is no 1552 01:39:04.199 --> 01:39:07.920 longer with us. Betty Cash is no longer with us. 1553 01:39:08.039 --> 01:39:11.159 Colby Landrum is the sole surviving witness. This is all 1554 01:39:11.199 --> 01:39:13.920 we've got left. Now we need to get him. We 1555 01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:18.079 need to talk to him immediately before it's too late. Now, 1556 01:39:18.800 --> 01:39:21.399 Betty Cash gets out of the vehicle. This is December 1557 01:39:21.439 --> 01:39:24.159 twenty ninth and nineteen eighty Huffman, Texas. She goes to 1558 01:39:24.199 --> 01:39:26.640 the front of the vehicle and is looking at this thing. 1559 01:39:27.359 --> 01:39:31.239 This is about a ninety foot tall double ice cream 1560 01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:33.800 cone with a series of porthole windows wrapped around the 1561 01:39:33.800 --> 01:39:38.079 outer circumference. And every time this craft would bob down 1562 01:39:38.199 --> 01:39:42.359 toward the asphalt road, there was a loud roar, There 1563 01:39:42.439 --> 01:39:44.680 was a blue colored flame, and there was a beeping 1564 01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:49.960 noise which I believe was a proximity indicator. As Betty 1565 01:39:50.039 --> 01:39:52.800 Cash is walking back to the car, getting ready to 1566 01:39:52.800 --> 01:39:55.520 go back inside, she reaches down to the handle of 1567 01:39:55.560 --> 01:39:58.680 the door and she burns her hand. She had to 1568 01:39:58.760 --> 01:40:01.800 use the leather flat of her coat to open up 1569 01:40:01.840 --> 01:40:04.239 the door and go inside. Now, when she got inside, 1570 01:40:04.840 --> 01:40:07.399 it was literally boiling hot. They had to turn the 1571 01:40:07.439 --> 01:40:11.479 air conditioned around. Move on, here, here's another rendition of 1572 01:40:11.520 --> 01:40:16.640 what this looked like. Now, once this took place, and 1573 01:40:16.680 --> 01:40:20.039 I'm just kind of like doing the timing here. All 1574 01:40:20.119 --> 01:40:25.000 three witnesses reported no less than twenty three double rotor 1575 01:40:25.079 --> 01:40:29.760 Chinut CH forty seven helicopters chasing after this. There were 1576 01:40:29.880 --> 01:40:34.720 multiple other witnesses beside the primary three that also saw 1577 01:40:34.720 --> 01:40:38.000 the helicopters, so it's not just these three. There were 1578 01:40:38.039 --> 01:40:41.119 others that saw the helicopters as well. Now, this is 1579 01:40:41.159 --> 01:40:44.520 a perspective that I did of Betty Cash from behind 1580 01:40:44.600 --> 01:40:48.279 her looking at the craft. You've got the CH forty sevens, 1581 01:40:48.319 --> 01:40:50.079 and then I want to do one which I don't 1582 01:40:50.119 --> 01:40:53.479 think has been

seen before. This is from the perspective 1583 01:40:53.560 --> 01:40:57.840 of the CH forty seven helicopter looking down on the scene. 1584 01:40:58.119 --> 01:41:03.960 And we've got twenty three three CH forty seven's all 1585 01:41:04.000 --> 01:41:08.319 having three crew members minimum. We've got two bill uh 1586 01:41:08.359 --> 01:41:12.079 one helicopters, and then we've got one Sikorski Skycream, which 1587 01:41:12.119 --> 01:41:15.640 is that big helicopter when you add all the numbers up, 1588 01:41:15.760 --> 01:41:17.319 and I'm going to move on to the next slide. 1589 01:41:17.319 --> 01:41:21.159 Here here is the map. This is a top view 1590 01:41:21.199 --> 01:41:23.920 looking down on the upper part of this map. It 1591 01:41:24.039 --> 01:41:27.199 shows you the road where Betty Cash slammed on her 1592 01:41:27.239 --> 01:41:30.000 brakes one hundred and fifty feet away. X marks the 1593 01:41:30.039 --> 01:41:33.479 spot that's where the craft was hovering, and it made 1594 01:41:33.479 --> 01:41:36.880 a burdmark on the asphalt. Here this is what it 1595 01:41:36.920 --> 01:41:40.680 looks like here. This is FM fourteen eighty five west 1596 01:41:40.680 --> 01:41:45.479 of Dayton, Texas, shortly before eight forty five pm. Okay, 1597 01:41:45.960 --> 01:41:48.720 now this is the breakdown of the helicopters. You've got 1598 01:41:48.720 --> 01:41:52.600 the twenty three Chinooks crew of three, two UH one 1599 01:41:52.640 --> 01:41:57.119 Bells crew of two, Sikorski Skycream crew of three. If 1600 01:41:57.119 --> 01:42:00.479 you add all these numbers up, we're approaching where approaching 1601 01:42:00.520 --> 01:42:03.880 one hundred witnesses. You know, we might have some support 1602 01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:07.279 people and there might be more crew members on each helicopter. 1603 01:42:07.640 --> 01:42:11.560 We don't know exactly, but conservatively we'll just say seventy 1604 01:42:11.600 --> 01:42:17.319 five or seventy six witnesses. Carl, where are these helicopter 1605 01:42:17.760 --> 01:42:21.319 crew members and pilots? Where are they? Have they been 1606 01:42:21.439 --> 01:42:26.239 sworn to secrecy? And my other question is was photographic 1607 01:42:26.720 --> 01:42:30.359 motion picture of film of this event? Was it taken? 1608 01:42:31.199 --> 01:42:33.640 Do they have it? And will they ever come forward 1609 01:42:34.239 --> 01:42:37.880 or are they completely written off? And they had to 1610 01:42:37.920 --> 01:42:41.239 sign non disclosure agreements never to talk about that this 1611 01:42:41.359 --> 01:42:45.680 that might be the case. Here everything about this case 1612 01:42:45.800 --> 01:42:49.000 was written by John Schussler, who is the primary researcher. 1613 01:42:49.720 --> 01:42:52.960 Credit goes from John for digging out all the details here. 1614 01:42:53.880 --> 01:42:59.119 Florida Today, December fourth, nineteen eighty three, great newspaper Clipping 1615 01:42:59.239 --> 01:43:02.079 talked about a lot of the details of this case. 1616 01:43:02.640 --> 01:43:05.199 And here you see the primary eyewitnesses on the bottom. 1617 01:43:05.239 --> 01:43:10.399 Here they don't say UFO, but the agony lingers The Times, 1618 01:43:10.439 --> 01:43:13.800 December twenty fifth, nineteen eighty three. So you've got Betty Cash, 1619 01:43:13.920 --> 01:43:17.800 Vicky Landrum, Kolby Langrum here. Now this is the section 1620 01:43:17.880 --> 01:43:21.520 of road where they saw the craft itself. It's got 1621 01:43:21.560 --> 01:43:26.800 this lonely, foreboding appearance to it, and you can imagine 1622 01:43:27.119 --> 01:43:29.720 what that might have been looking like here. Now, let's 1623 01:43:29.760 --> 01:43:32.880 go over what happened as they were driving home after 1624 01:43:32.920 --> 01:43:38.319 this event happened, and we're talking literally immediately after this happened. 1625 01:43:38.880 --> 01:43:44.560 All three witnesses suffered from the severe effects of radiation poisoning. 1626 01:43:45.720 --> 01:43:47.960 I don't want to go over all the details here, 1627 01:43:47.960 --> 01:43:50.840 but I'm only going to read what happened to Betty here. 1628 01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:58.680 So she said that she had swollen eyes, vision, impaired stomach, pains, vomiting, diarrhea, anarexia, 1629 01:43:58.800 --> 01:44:02.680 loss of energy, scarring, and hair loss. She took the 1630 01:44:02.720 --> 01:44:05.439 brunt of it because she was outside the vehicle and 1631 01:44:05.560 --> 01:44:09.319 tored the hood of the car itself and was taking 1632 01:44:09.439 --> 01:44:14.720 most of the doses of radiation here. Now I pose 1633 01:44:14.800 --> 01:44:18.399 this question to you, Carl, Why would the United States 1634 01:44:18.640 --> 01:44:23.680 Air Force want to buy Betty's car? I find that 1635 01:44:23.800 --> 01:44:24.560 very interesting. 1636 01:44:26.039 --> 01:44:26.479 Interesting. 1637 01:44:26.760 --> 01:44:29.359 It's possible radioactive evidence to the. 1638 01:44:30.159 --> 01:44:34.800 Evidence, right, So, if there's nothing to UFOs, and if 1639 01:44:34.840 --> 01:44:39.359 it's just a misidentification of the of the planet Venus, 1640 01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:42.319 according to the Air Force, that's what they're telling us, 1641 01:44:42.359 --> 01:44:44.279 they shut it all down in sixty nine. If there's 1642 01:44:44.319 --> 01:44:47.119 nothing to UFOs, why did the Air Force try to 1643 01:44:47.119 --> 01:44:51.319 buy Betty's car? It's very interesting, very curious, Okay. Now, 1644 01:44:52.039 --> 01:44:56.600 immediately after the event, the US Army Corps of Engineers 1645 01:44:56.720 --> 01:44:59.560 dug up the scorch mark left by the craft on 1646 01:44:59.600 --> 01:45:03.720 the paved to conceal any physical evidence. Two weeks later, 1647 01:45:04.039 --> 01:45:07.119 they dug up the pavement a second time and paved 1648 01:45:07.159 --> 01:45:11.359 it a second time. And this

is all over a 1649 01:45:11.399 --> 01:45:15.199 weather balloon, a flock of geese, a misidentification of Venus. 1650 01:45:15.680 --> 01:45:21.239 I don't think so. 1651 01:45:18.840 --> 01:45:24.439 You know, we're talking about physical effects here, radiation, concealing 1652 01:45:24.479 --> 01:45:32.880 of evidence, lies, disinformation, giggle factor, humiliation, threats going on. 1653 01:45:33.640 --> 01:45:36.319 This is the policy from the government from the get go. 1654 01:45:36.479 --> 01:45:39.680 For eighty years, they've been using these tactics on these 1655 01:45:39.720 --> 01:45:43.479 witnesses and it has to stop. It's time for these 1656 01:45:43.560 --> 01:45:49.279 cases to come forward. And the US military industrial complex, 1657 01:45:49.399 --> 01:45:55.079 including the major defense contractors and the intelligence communities and 1658 01:45:55.279 --> 01:45:59.279 institutions on the East Coast are involved in this. Up 1659 01:45:59.319 --> 01:46:03.640 to their net they're involved in this. Lawrence Livermore Labs, 1660 01:46:04.000 --> 01:46:08.279 Los Alamos is up to this AEC no longer exists, 1661 01:46:08.359 --> 01:46:12.960 but that entity in whatever is the code word for it, 1662 01:46:13.000 --> 01:46:17.920 now they're involved in this. It wasn't the Air Force directly, 1663 01:46:18.239 --> 01:46:22.399 but it was the US Navy and these other organizations too. 1664 01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:26.199 Now it says here this is the Sun January twenty second, 1665 01:46:26.279 --> 01:46:32.279 nineteen eighty four. US sued for twenty million UFO damage. However, 1666 01:46:33.319 --> 01:46:36.920 the judge throughout the case because Betty Cash could not 1667 01:46:37.119 --> 01:46:40.800 prove that there were military helicopters associated with the event, 1668 01:46:41.600 --> 01:46:44.520 so she never even got her day in court. What 1669 01:46:44.560 --> 01:46:45.840 are your thoughts on that, Carl. 1670 01:46:46.079 --> 01:46:50.720 It's really sad that, yeah, did anyone ever go out 1671 01:46:50.760 --> 01:46:55.279 to that area and check for above normal radioactive presence. 1672 01:46:55.479 --> 01:46:58.319 Still some people have tried to do that, and I 1673 01:46:58.359 --> 01:47:01.000 think there were a couple of horse samples, but I 1674 01:47:01.039 --> 01:47:03.800 also think that they moved the road. I don't think 1675 01:47:03.840 --> 01:47:07.359 it's exactly where it was back then. I can't confirm that. 1676 01:47:07.399 --> 01:47:10.760 I haven't put boots on the ground at that exact location, 1677 01:47:10.960 --> 01:47:14.319 but you would think that you could still get something 1678 01:47:14.359 --> 01:47:18.119 residual there after all this time. And you know there 1679 01:47:18.199 --> 01:47:21.920 were other witnesses that saw the helicopters. So but you know, 1680 01:47:22.279 --> 01:47:26.079 this is so long ago now it's lost to history. 1681 01:47:26.319 --> 01:47:30.079 People even in ufology, people don't even know it's just 1682 01:47:30.159 --> 01:47:32.560 and this is top three and of all cases, it's 1683 01:47:32.600 --> 01:47:37.279 top three, and it's completely forgotten about. And most of 1684 01:47:37.319 --> 01:47:40.239 the witnesses are gone. Probably a lot of the helicopter 1685 01:47:40.279 --> 01:47:43.600 pilots are gone. Who knows, but they've never come forward, 1686 01:47:43.960 --> 01:47:47.119 and they know they know what was going on. They 1687 01:47:47.119 --> 01:47:50.159 were chasing after this thing, and the sky crane would 1688 01:47:50.159 --> 01:47:54.399 have been for if the craft malfunctioned and crashed, they 1689 01:47:54.399 --> 01:47:56.960 would use the sky crane with a lanyard to get 1690 01:47:56.960 --> 01:47:58.920 that thing out of there. That's exactly what it would 1691 01:47:58.920 --> 01:48:02.960 have happened, would have been a hush hush operation, highly classified, 1692 01:48:04.039 --> 01:48:06.399 and the government knows what's going on, at least some 1693 01:48:06.439 --> 01:48:09.800 of the contractors do. But bottom line here is that 1694 01:48:10.600 --> 01:48:13.800 all three witnesses, they never got their day in court. 1695 01:48:14.479 --> 01:48:18.680 But we don't want to let that memory pass away. Here, 1696 01:48:19.439 --> 01:48:23.439 I think we got one more. February third, nineteen eighty three, Mobile, Alabama, 1697 01:48:24.319 --> 01:48:27.159 primary eye witness was driving down the road at night 1698 01:48:27.960 --> 01:48:32.079 and she felt a booming noise that shook her vehicle, 1699 01:48:32.800 --> 01:48:35.920 and she thought that the transmission kind of came out 1700 01:48:35.960 --> 01:48:38.239 of the vehicle, so she stopped her car. She pulled 1701 01:48:38.279 --> 01:48:39.920 off to the side of the road. She looked under 1702 01:48:39.960 --> 01:48:44.079 the vehicle. Everything seemed fine there. So she went another 1703 01:48:44.159 --> 01:48:46.319 half mile down the road and off to the right 1704 01:48:46.359 --> 01:48:48.960 there was a clearing, and she said that there was 1705 01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:52.640 a very long, two hundred and ten foot long craft 1706 01:48:52.640 --> 01:48:57.000 that was eighty feet high. It had this cheered taper 1707 01:48:57.119 --> 01:49:00.199 effect as it went toward the after the craft, and 1708 01:49:00.239 --> 01:49:02.000 she said, on the top of the craft there was 1709 01:49:02.039 --> 01:49:08.039 a transparent window. Behind that window in a antiseptically sterile environment, 1710 01:49:08.119 --> 01:49:10.800 she said that there were these humanoid looking beings five 1711 01:49:10.840 --> 01:49:14.079 foot ten hairless that were wearing a one piece tight 1712 01:49:14.119 --> 01:49:17.600 fitting flight suit, and they were about five feet ten 1713 01:49:18.039 --> 01:49:21.399 below that there was another transparent window. Now, this whole 1714 01:49:21.479 --> 01:49:25.640 craft on the

outside was fastened by what looked like 1715 01:49:25.840 --> 01:49:31.399 rusty bridge rivets, basically fastening steel plates. This is what 1716 01:49:31.439 --> 01:49:33.800 she talked about here. And then she said on the 1717 01:49:33.840 --> 01:49:37.600 exterior there were porthole windows. And when she looked through 1718 01:49:37.600 --> 01:49:40.640 these porthole windows, because she was standing directly below this thing, 1719 01:49:41.199 --> 01:49:44.079 she could look through the porthole window, through the craft 1720 01:49:44.079 --> 01:49:46.520 itself and outside the other side. And she said it 1721 01:49:46.600 --> 01:49:50.479 reminded her of the crossbeam and girder construction that you 1722 01:49:50.479 --> 01:49:53.720 would see like on a truss bridge or at an 1723 01:49:53.760 --> 01:49:57.159 East coast shipping yard with bulkheads and stringers. It was 1724 01:49:57.279 --> 01:50:01.880 very mechanical looking one of ours. Yeah, it sounds like 1725 01:50:01.920 --> 01:50:05.960 one of ours. Now. On the front end of the 1726 01:50:06.079 --> 01:50:09.399 very nose section we're going to call it of this 1727 01:50:09.520 --> 01:50:13.960 craft that was more spherical, there were prongs sticking out. 1728 01:50:14.039 --> 01:50:16.119 So now this is like the fifth time we've heard 1729 01:50:16.159 --> 01:50:19.479 about this, now, these prongs sticking out. She also said 1730 01:50:19.520 --> 01:50:21.760 that there was a door closing from right to left, 1731 01:50:21.840 --> 01:50:25.000 and on the left hand wall. On the inside there 1732 01:50:25.159 --> 01:50:28.359 was what looked like tubes, pipes, and cylinders. That tracks 1733 01:50:28.399 --> 01:50:31.279 with Belgium Triangle, and that tracks with Hudson Valley boomerang. 1734 01:50:31.319 --> 01:50:35.640 It even tracks with the Southern Illinois Triangle January first, fifth, 1735 01:50:35.640 --> 01:50:38.199 two thousand. On the bottom of the craft there was 1736 01:50:38.239 --> 01:50:43.079 a minimum of one gondola which had transparent you could 1737 01:50:43.079 --> 01:50:46.239 call it a plexiglass window with the same five foot 1738 01:50:46.279 --> 01:50:49.119 tall humanoid looking beings. And then on the bottom of 1739 01:50:49.119 --> 01:50:52.960 the craft there were hundreds of twenty four inch by 1740 01:50:53.000 --> 01:50:56.640 twenty four inch highly polished mirror reflective devices that looked 1741 01:50:56.640 --> 01:50:59.159 like mirrors in the form of a cross. I'm going 1742 01:50:59.239 --> 01:51:02.319 to move on to the next I got this information 1743 01:51:03.079 --> 01:51:08.600 from the April bulletin volume thirty two, number two, nineteen 1744 01:51:08.640 --> 01:51:11.800 eighty four, So if anyone wants to get further details, 1745 01:51:12.319 --> 01:51:14.319 this is where I got the information. So this is 1746 01:51:14.399 --> 01:51:18.039 the sketch that we had to work from to procure 1747 01:51:18.520 --> 01:51:22.680

that full color illustration. So I worked with my good 1748 01:51:22.680 --> 01:51:24.840 friend Joel Christopher Payne, and we came up with a 1749 01:51:24.880 --> 01:51:29.239 more accurate rendition of this. She was driving a station wagon, 1750 01:51:29.279 --> 01:51:31.239 it was at night. She got a real good look 1751 01:51:31.239 --> 01:51:34.159 at this thing. And I want to go into some 1752 01:51:34.239 --> 01:51:38.359 details that were not revealed in the original apro article. 1753 01:51:38.399 --> 01:51:40.800 Here this is a blow up that shows you what 1754 01:51:40.920 --> 01:51:45.199 these humanoid looking beings look like. Now, one thing that 1755 01:51:45.479 --> 01:51:49.479 wasn't talked about in the original article. She said that 1756 01:51:49.560 --> 01:51:53.119 there was a bar that ran the length of the 1757 01:51:53.239 --> 01:51:57.800 whole front of this thing. Within this bar, there were cages, 1758 01:51:58.000 --> 01:52:03.119 and embedded within the cages, it had this mechanical structure. 1759 01:52:03.239 --> 01:52:06.880 There were pipes and tubes and cylinders and they were 1760 01:52:06.920 --> 01:52:10.479 embedded into separate cages that made up this long length 1761 01:52:10.560 --> 01:52:12.760 bar on the front of this thing. And then there 1762 01:52:12.760 --> 01:52:14.720 were these prongs sticking out of the front that we 1763 01:52:14.840 --> 01:52:17.239 talked about before. Let's move on to the next one here. Now, 1764 01:52:18.800 --> 01:52:25.000 in twenty twenty two, I received a mysterious message. And 1765 01:52:25.039 --> 01:52:27.600 this is kind of a world exclusive. So I got 1766 01:52:27.600 --> 01:52:29.960 this message on my phone. I had no clue what 1767 01:52:30.079 --> 01:52:33.279 this was. And I look it down and it's this 1768 01:52:33.399 --> 01:52:36.840 woman named Pat and she says, Mike, I've been trying 1769 01:52:36.840 --> 01:52:39.960 to reach you for ten years. I'm your witness. She 1770 01:52:40.199 --> 01:52:42.880 was still alive. She tracked me down. She was the original. 1771 01:52:43.159 --> 01:52:45.680 I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. And so 1772 01:52:45.720 --> 01:52:47.760 she said, Mike, I got something for you I want 1773 01:52:47.760 --> 01:52:50.920 to give you. She gave me her original sketches of 1774 01:52:51.000 --> 01:52:53.239 what the craft looks like and what you're seeing. Here 1775 01:52:53.279 --> 01:52:56.960 are her original sketches. So we'll look at the front 1776 01:52:57.039 --> 01:52:59.720 on the left hand side. You can see this bulbous 1777 01:52:59.760 --> 01:53:03.560 second on the aft right hand side. It had the 1778 01:53:03.640 --> 01:53:07.239 C one thirty cargo door that wasn't talked about really 1779 01:53:07.239 --> 01:53:10.600 in the article. Let's move on here. Here's a front view. 1780 01:53:11.079 --> 01:53:14.239 You've got the lights, You've got the big cage or 1781 01:53:14.399 --> 01:53:17.319 bar in the front of this thing. You've got the protrusions. 1782 01:53:17.760 --> 01:53:20.239 You've got the door closing from right to left. I'm 1783 01:53:20.239 --> 01:53:22.960 going to read the callouts here, she says sliding door. 1784 01:53:23.760 --> 01:53:26.359 She did see what looked like a road or driveway 1785 01:53:27.119 --> 01:53:30.520 on the bottom of this thing, so like cargo or 1786 01:53:30.680 --> 01:53:34.439 jeeps or tanks or something could roll into this thing 1787 01:53:35.079 --> 01:53:38.600 from the C one thirty afteror that's the impression that 1788 01:53:39.000 --> 01:53:42.800 we're getting here. She talks about seven to eight floors, 1789 01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:48.560 no sound. She specs out all the lights here, good drawing. Actually, 1790 01:53:48.600 --> 01:53:51.880 here's another version here. These are all her original sketches. 1791 01:53:53.239 --> 01:53:57.600 So then she also spressed that the whole thing looked 1792 01:53:57.600 --> 01:54:00.439 like it was dipped in the ocean and then back 1793 01:54:00.520 --> 01:54:03.199 up and it had streams of rust coming down from it. 1794 01:54:03.600 --> 01:54:07.600 So you're right, Carl, it's screaming a man made technology. Here. 1795 01:54:07.640 --> 01:54:11.479 The entire craft was held together with what looked like 1796 01:54:11.680 --> 01:54:17.000 bridge rivets and rusty battleship like steel plates. Yeah, it's 1797 01:54:17.039 --> 01:54:20.960 exactly what we're talking about here now, Yeah, Rural Exclusive. 1798 01:54:21.960 --> 01:54:25.199 After spending two weeks speaking to the primary witness and 1799 01:54:25.319 --> 01:54:29.159 working with my friend and artist Rudy Gardea, we corrected 1800 01:54:29.319 --> 01:54:33.720 all of the original errors in the original illustration and 1801 01:54:33.800 --> 01:54:37.399 created a historically correct, refined drawing which I want to 1802 01:54:37.399 --> 01:54:40.399 show you right now. And this is what it looked like. 1803 01:54:40.880 --> 01:54:43.239 This is as close as we're going to get to it. 1804 01:54:43.279 --> 01:54:46.000 This is what it actually looks like. So it's a 1805 01:54:46.000 --> 01:54:49.199 little bit more refined. We've got the rivet plates here, 1806 01:54:49.239 --> 01:54:52.079 we've got the steel rivets, we've got the bar, we've 1807 01:54:52.079 --> 01:54:55.399 got the C one thirty door in the back. Obviously 1808 01:54:55.439 --> 01:54:59.199 this is a cargo transport or something like that, because 1809 01:54:59.239 --> 01:55:03.239 it's huge, huge. And then when we first did the bar, 1810 01:55:03.760 --> 01:55:05.560 she said, no, no, no, no, you got it all wrong. 1811 01:55:05.600 --> 01:55:07.520 That bar should be a lot longer. So we had 1812 01:55:07.520 --> 01:55:12.039 to fix all the errors. We optimized that I took 1813 01:55:12.079 --> 01:55:14.760 that to the next level and created this illustration. This 1814 01:55:14.880 --> 01:55:16.520 gives you an idea of

what it might have looked 1815 01:55:16.560 --> 01:55:19.720 like from her perspective. And you see the bar, You've 1816 01:55:19.720 --> 01:55:22.239 got the steel cages, we've got the tubes, pipes, and 1817 01:55:22.279 --> 01:55:26.960 the cylinders. So bottom line is in this presentation, what 1818 01:55:27.000 --> 01:55:29.159 I really wanted to do is I wanted to give 1819 01:55:29.199 --> 01:55:34.520 everyone a brief overview of some of these historical cases 1820 01:55:34.560 --> 01:55:38.399 that have been forgotten. They're lost, they're forgotten, they're left 1821 01:55:38.439 --> 01:55:41.079 for dead. They've been stranded in binders, and they've been 1822 01:55:41.119 --> 01:55:44.760 stranded in Manila folders and file cabinets for decades, have 1823 01:55:44.880 --> 01:55:47.319 not seen the light of day. I wanted to dig 1824 01:55:47.359 --> 01:55:52.079 these cases out, make these cases come alive, and preserve 1825 01:55:52.159 --> 01:55:55.760 a very important part of our national history. That's really 1826 01:55:55.800 --> 01:55:57.880 my crusade, Carl, That's what it's all about. 1827 01:55:58.560 --> 01:56:02.720 Well, I appreciate your you know, hunting this stuff down 1828 01:56:02.760 --> 01:56:05.199 and putting it together like this, because, like you say, 1829 01:56:05.239 --> 01:56:07.560 it's not something you're going to see somewhere else. 1830 01:56:08.720 --> 01:56:11.039 I don't think. So someone's got to get boots on 1831 01:56:11.039 --> 01:56:12.359 the ground and get this stuff. 1832 01:56:12.479 --> 01:56:17.479 Yeah, somebody does, most definitely. Okay, if you've got other stuff. 1833 01:56:17.640 --> 01:56:19.640 I would like to have you back in the future too. 1834 01:56:20.479 --> 01:56:23.199 Sure we can do a part two with the crash retrievals. 1835 01:56:23.479 --> 01:56:26.680 And that's what's talked about all the time. Now they 1836 01:56:26.760 --> 01:56:29.439 keep talking about crash retrievals. What they should be doing 1837 01:56:29.600 --> 01:56:33.439 is investigating Leonard Streamfield cases because he's the world's expert. 1838 01:56:34.239 --> 01:56:37.960 He's the one who vetted out these first ten military witnesses, 1839 01:56:39.199 --> 01:56:43.399 people who touched the UFOs that they recovered, they loaded 1840 01:56:43.399 --> 01:56:46.720 these craft up, they were on the retrieval teams, they 1841 01:56:46.800 --> 01:56:51.079 saw the bodies, they assisted the bodies walking out of 1842 01:56:51.119 --> 01:56:53.960 these craft. We've got multiple cases. We've got a case 1843 01:56:54.000 --> 01:56:57.359 from an office worker at the Pentagon back in nineteen 1844 01:56:57.399 --> 01:57:01.359 fifty two. She accidentally went into an off limits room 1845 01:57:01.520 --> 01:57:04.119 and she kind of did a one hundred and eighty 1846 01:57:04.159 --> 01:57:07.079 degree turn and she saw a pickled alien and a 1847 01:57:07.199 --> 01:57:11.560 large glass container kept in a preservation for mel the 1848 01:57:11.640 --> 01:57:15.279 hyde fluid. We got her testimony. We have the testimony 1849 01:57:15.319 --> 01:57:18.760 from Missus G who in nineteen fifty five was at 1850 01:57:18.760 --> 01:57:22.720 the Foreign Materials Division at Right Patterson Air Force Base, 1851 01:57:22.800 --> 01:57:27.039 and she said that she cataloged a thousand components that 1852 01:57:27.199 --> 01:57:30.680 came from the interior of a crash retrieval. You think 1853 01:57:30.720 --> 01:57:33.680 about what that means is we always hear that there's 1854 01:57:33.720 --> 01:57:37.119 no physical evidence in these congressional hearings. Here we have 1855 01:57:37.199 --> 01:57:42.239 a woman, a credible witness, who not only touched these pieces, 1856 01:57:43.119 --> 01:57:47.039 but she cataloged them. And she saw two deceased et 1857 01:57:47.319 --> 01:57:51.439 corpses on a mobile Dolly roll right by her desk 1858 01:57:51.840 --> 01:57:55.359 as she's typing and cataloging these things away. So they've 1859 01:57:55.479 --> 01:57:58.520 gotten not only the physical evidence. They've got the motion 1860 01:57:58.640 --> 01:58:02.079 picture film reels. They've got the bodies, they've got the craft, 1861 01:58:02.119 --> 01:58:05.319 they've got the hardware, and they've got eight x ten 1862 01:58:05.880 --> 01:58:10.960 glossy black and white photographs of flying saucers in flight 1863 01:58:11.119 --> 01:58:15.159 taken by Air Force pilots in flight with F eighty 1864 01:58:15.279 --> 01:58:22.319 six and F ninety four starfire in chase. And they've 1865 01:58:22.359 --> 01:58:25.720 got this physical evidence. This is the kind of evidence 1866 01:58:25.760 --> 01:58:28.359 that needs to be brought out in congressional hearings. 1867 01:58:28.399 --> 01:58:28.640 Now. 1868 01:58:28.720 --> 01:58:31.479 I don't know if we will ever see it. I 1869 01:58:31.479 --> 01:58:33.840 don't know if we will ever see it. Maybe they 1870 01:58:33.840 --> 01:58:36.600 think it's just too much for us. But after all 1871 01:58:36.640 --> 01:58:41.840 this time, and since a significant majority of this was 1872 01:58:41.920 --> 01:58:44.720 paid for by the American taxpayer, that's why we should 1873 01:58:44.760 --> 01:58:45.600 demand it, Carl. 1874 01:58:46.119 --> 01:58:47.800 It's ours, so we want it now. 1875 01:58:47.920 --> 01:58:49.239 That's right. That's right. 1876 01:58:50.199 --> 01:58:51.760 Well, Michael, I know you have to get on with 1877 01:58:51.800 --> 01:58:54.880 your evening, but I will give you let our listeners 1878 01:58:54.960 --> 01:58:56.960 know where they can find your YouTube channel. 1879 01:58:57.239 --> 01:59:00.359 Sure, okay. My YouTube channel is very simple. It's just 1880 01:59:00.520 --> 01:59:04.439 my name, Michael Shatt. Type Michael Shrapp into YouTube and 1881 01:59:04.520 --> 01:59:10.920 you'll find it. It's scchratt, totally simple. Everything that we've 1882 01:59:10.920 --> 01:59:14.079

talked about tonight is highlighted within the UFO channel, although 1883 01:59:14.319 --> 01:59:16.640 what you're seeing here is a lot of new information, 1884 01:59:16.680 --> 01:59:20.520 so I'm constantly refining and optimizing all this. But I've 1885 01:59:20.520 --> 01:59:23.920 got the crash retrievals on there. I've got the historical 1886 01:59:24.039 --> 01:59:26.520 UFO cases on there. I do a deep dive into 1887 01:59:26.560 --> 01:59:32.479 the legacy of gravity research and how they made the breakthrough. 1888 01:59:32.720 --> 01:59:35.680 I do talk about Challenger, I've got that on there. 1889 01:59:35.720 --> 01:59:38.800 I've got McDill Air Force Base that back in nineteen 1890 01:59:39.279 --> 01:59:43.199 sixty seven in September. I've got a very reliable witness 1891 01:59:43.239 --> 01:59:46.439 who is a naval combat veteran who stated that there 1892 01:59:46.520 --> 01:59:50.279 was a massive library at McDill Air Force Base where 1893 01:59:50.279 --> 01:59:54.039 they had film reels of UFOs. They had eight x 1894 01:59:54.079 --> 01:59:58.119 ten black and white glossy photographs and tremendous amount of evidence. 1895 01:59:58.159 --> 01:59:59.520 All that's on my YouTube channel. 1896 02:00:00.319 --> 02:00:02.439 Well, thank you, Michael, and it's been an holdor having 1897 02:00:02.479 --> 02:00:05.680 you here, and I will definitely contact you about part two. 1898 02:00:06.199 --> 02:00:07.039 Okay, sounds good. 1899 02:00:07.079 --> 02:02:22.279 Thank Paul, Thank you, sir. Good night. You get a 1900 02:02:22.359 --> 02:02:23.000 shiver in. 1901 02:02:23.039 --> 02:02:26.720 The dark, gets ready in the park, meantime. 1902 02:02:29.000 --> 02:02:35.880 Down off the river, you're stopping your home everything. A 1903 02:02:36.039 --> 02:02:39.199 man's browing Dixie globble ball time. 1904 02:02:42.039 --> 02:02:42.680 Feet away. 1905 02:02:43.279 --> 02:02:45.119 When you hit him, you say green. 1906 02:02:50.760 --> 02:02:53.439 And I stepped inside. 1907 02:03:02.760 --> 02:03:06.479 This is Dark Spaces News. I'm Joshua Stark. The United 1908 02:03:06.479 --> 02:03:09.359 States is on track to record its highest number of 1909 02:03:09.399 --> 02:03:12.920 measles cases in more than three decades, raising concerns that 1910 02:03:12.960 --> 02:03:17.279 the country could lose its measles elimination status. Health officials 1911 02:03:17.279 --> 02:03:20.039 have recorded more than two two hundred and ninety five 1912 02:03:20.119 --> 02:03:23.800 cases so far this year, already surpassing the two two 1913 02:03:23.880 --> 02:03:26.960 hundred and eighty six cases reported in all of twenty 1914 02:03:27.000 --> 02:03:30.960 twenty five. Large outbreaks have been reported in South Carolina 1915 02:03:31.039 --> 02:03:35.319 and Utah, while cases have also been identified in dozens 1916 02:03:35.359 --> 02:03:38.840 of other states. The surge is being fueled by pockets 1917 02:03:38.880 --> 02:03:44.319 of low vaccination. The measles, mumps and rubella or MMR. 1918 02:03:44.479 --> 02:03:49.279 Vaccine is highly effective, but measles is so contagious that 1919 02:03:49.359 --> 02:03:52.560 about ninety five percent of people in a community need 1920 02:03:52.600 --> 02:03:57.399 to be vaccinated to prevent sustained spread. In recent years, 1921 02:03:57.520 --> 02:04:01.319 average two dose vaccination rates among children and dozens of 1922 02:04:01.359 --> 02:04:04.560 states have fallen from roughly ninety four percent from the 1923 02:04:04.600 --> 02:04:10.279 COVID nineteen pandemic to about ninety one percent afterwards. The 1924 02:04:10.439 --> 02:04:14.960 United States has maintained measles elimination status since two thousand, 1925 02:04:15.119 --> 02:04:20.119 but experts warn that ongoing transmission could put that designation 1926 02:04:20.279 --> 02:04:24.479 at risk. The problem extends beyond the US. Canada loss 1927 02:04:24.479 --> 02:04:28.880 its elimination status last year, while Mexico has reported more 1928 02:04:28.920 --> 02:04:33.600 than twelve thousand cases. Public health experts say measles elimination 1929 02:04:34.239 --> 02:04:39.399 is fragile and requires consistently high vaccination rates. They warned 1930 02:04:39.439 --> 02:04:44.439 that declineing coverage creates vulnerable communities where the virus can 1931 02:04:44.520 --> 02:04:48.840 quickly gain a foothold. The measles vaccine remains the most 1932 02:04:48.880 --> 02:04:53.359 effective tool for preventing outbreaks. Catch up with dark spaces 1933 02:04:53.359 --> 02:04:57.520 News on the dark spaces News Facebook page and darkspacesnews 1934 02:04:57.520 --> 02:05:00.560 dot Com. From Memphis, Tennessee, I'm josh, it goes dark. 1935 02:05:04.159 --> 02:05:05.119 What is ham radio? 1936 02:05:05.279 --> 02:05:07.520 It's the most fun you can have with the radio, 1937 02:05:07.720 --> 02:05:10.399 talk to people around the world or even orbiting the world. 1938 02:05:10.479 --> 02:05:12.640 And you don't need a two year contract or internet 1939 02:05:12.680 --> 02:05:15.159 access to do it. Learn about electronics and be of 1940 02:05:15.239 --> 02:05:19.359 service to your community. A RRL, the National Association for 1941 02:05:19.479 --> 02:05:22.800 Amateur Radio, has over two thousand clubs across the country, 1942 02:05:22.960 --> 02:05:28.520 including this one in your area. 1943 02:05:33.079 --> 02:05:35.159 I knew I was stuck at this kid's house the night. 1944 02:05:35.479 --> 02:05:37.399 I've decided to just go to sleep and get the 1945 02:05:37.479 --> 02:05:39.920 night over with. But those guys can do. The bedroom 1946 02:05:40.000 --> 02:05:42.319 gone to a massive pillow fight. Let me tell you 1947 02:05:42.439 --> 02:05:44.960 it's not easy find asleep when a sweaty little kid 1948 02:05:45.000 --> 02:05:48.000 fall on you every five seconds. Even after the lights 1949 02:05:48.039 --> 02:05:50.720 went out, Rawing and his

friends stayed up. A bunch 1950 02:05:50.760 --> 02:05:53.159 of them snuck up on me to trample a hand 1951 02:05:53.199 --> 02:05:54.319 in a ball of warm water. 1952 02:05:54.399 --> 02:05:54.680 Trick. 1953 02:05:54.960 --> 02:05:57.239 Well, that was enough for me. I went downstairs a 1954 02:05:57.239 --> 02:05:59.399 sleep in the basement, even though it was pitched black. 1955 02:06:00.119 --> 02:06:02.880 My sleeping bag upstairs, and that was a mistake because 1956 02:06:02.920 --> 02:06:05.560 it was freezing. I think it was probably the longest 1957 02:06:05.640 --> 02:06:07.960 night of my life. When the sun came up this morning, 1958 02:06:08.199 --> 02:06:10.199 I found out the reason it was so cold. I 1959 02:06:10.279 --> 02:06:12.399 was sleeping right by the sliding glass door, and some 1960 02:06:12.520 --> 02:06:14.800 fool had gone and left it open all night. That 1961 02:06:14.880 --> 02:06:17.039 really sunk because if I knew there was a way 1962 02:06:17.079 --> 02:06:19.920 to escape last night, I definitely would have taken it. 1963 02:06:20.199 --> 02:06:23.239 Read more about the sleepover. Checkout diary of o Ompee Kid, 1964 02:06:23.319 --> 02:06:26.279 The Last Draw by Jeff Kenney. Explore New Worlds and 1965 02:06:26.359 --> 02:06:28.840 check out more codebooks at your local library, and visit 1966 02:06:28.880 --> 02:06:31.399 read dot Gov, brought to you by the Library of 1967 02:06:31.439 --> 02:06:32.880 Congress and the AD Council. 1968 02:06:48.800 --> 02:06:49.920 I can get you sleep. 1969 02:06:52.039 --> 02:06:56.960 I think about the implications I'm diving into a deep 1970 02:06:59.079 --> 02:07:08.479 possibly the compregations, especially at night, my worry over situations 1971 02:07:09.239 --> 02:07:15.600 I know will be all right. Perhaps it's just to imagination. 1972 02:07:16.359 --> 02:07:25.359 Day I read. 1973 02:07:29.920 --> 02:07:33.119 Join host Carl Richardson as he interviews top guests in 1974 02:07:33.279 --> 02:07:37.439 various fields of study. Now airing live every Saturday night 1975 02:07:37.520 --> 02:07:40.439 from nine to eleven Central Time and ten pm to 1976 02:07:40.479 --> 02:07:41.319 midnight Eastern. 1977 02:07:42.199 --> 02:07:44.880 Once again, we've reached the end of another edition of 1978 02:07:44.960 --> 02:07:48.720 Midnight Frequency Radio. I want to thank Michael Scratt for 1979 02:07:48.800 --> 02:07:52.479 joining us tonight and taking us on his UFO Magical 1980 02:07:52.560 --> 02:07:56.359 Mystery Tour, and to everyone listening tonight. Thank you for 1981 02:07:56.399 --> 02:07:59.199 spending part of your weekend with us here on midnight 1982 02:07:59.239 --> 02:08:03.479 Frequency Radio. Next Saturday night, we'll be back with another 1983 02:08:03.560 --> 02:08:06.920 very interesting guests, and this will actually be his third 1984 02:08:06.960 --> 02:08:10.640 time joining us here on midnight Frequency Radio. Returning to 1985 02:08:10.720 --> 02:08:13.800 the program will be David John Oates, the founder and 1986 02:08:13.920 --> 02:08:18.640 discoverer of reverse speech. For more than four decades, David 1987 02:08:18.680 --> 02:08:23.159 has researched a phenomenon that he believes may reveal an 1988 02:08:23.359 --> 02:08:28.880 entirely different level of human communications, one operating beneath the 1989 02:08:28.920 --> 02:08:34.000 words we consciously speak. We've had some fascinating conversations with 1990 02:08:34.079 --> 02:08:38.000 David during his previous appearances, but this time we're going 1991 02:08:38.039 --> 02:08:41.159 to take the discussion in a different direction. We're not 1992 02:08:41.279 --> 02:08:43.840 just going to look back at the history of reverse speech. 1993 02:08:44.399 --> 02:08:48.159 We're going to look forward. David has recently launched a 1994 02:08:48.279 --> 02:08:52.760 new reverse speech grassroots movement, an effort to bring together 1995 02:08:52.880 --> 02:08:55.880 people from around the world who want to learn about 1996 02:08:55.880 --> 02:09:00.279 the phenomenon, experiment with it, conduct their own recent search, 1997 02:09:00.560 --> 02:09:04.800 and help introduce reverse speech to a new generation. We'll 1998 02:09:04.840 --> 02:09:08.199 talk about why David believes that the time has come 1999 02:09:08.479 --> 02:09:12.600 for a grassroots movement, what he hopes to accomplish and 2000 02:09:12.640 --> 02:09:15.760 where he sees reverse speech going in the years ahead. 2001 02:09:16.439 --> 02:09:21.439 Will also explore some much bigger questions. If reverse speech 2002 02:09:21.680 --> 02:09:26.319 is prevailing genuine information from our conscious awareness, what does 2003 02:09:26.359 --> 02:09:29.600 that tell us about the human mind? Could it change 2004 02:09:29.640 --> 02:09:36.119 the way we understand consciousness, communications, psychology, and even ourselves? 2005 02:09:37.079 --> 02:09:41.199 And perhaps most importantly, what could the future implications of 2006 02:09:41.279 --> 02:09:45.199 reverse speech be for the human race. After more than 2007 02:09:45.239 --> 02:09:48.720 forty years of research, David believes there is still much 2008 02:09:48.760 --> 02:09:52.680 more waiting to be discovered, and that reverse speech may 2009 02:09:52.800 --> 02:09:57.760 ultimately have implications far beyond anything he imagined when he 2010 02:09:57.840 --> 02:10:03.239 first stumbled across the phenomen decades ago. We'll also explore 2011 02:10:03.319 --> 02:10:07.000 where his research has been, where it is today, and 2012 02:10:07.079 --> 02:10:10.279 where David believes it could take us into the future. 2013 02:10:11.079 --> 02:10:15.159 That's next Saturday night, when Javid John Oates returns for 2014 02:10:15.239 --> 02:10:19.119 his third appearance on Midnight Frequency Radio. Until then, I'm 2015 02:10:19.159 --> 02:10:23.159 Carl Richardson from the Late Art Bell and Evan Lewis. 2016 02:10:24.199 --> 02:11:17.600 Good night everyone,