S2 | E1: LauraAura — Stop Settling and Start Starting Over의 전체 녹취록

turned it down, and that was like, okay, Laura, there's there's some introspective stuff going on here you really need to think about. 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:03.280 Um, the biggest client that we had at the time, their contract was ending. 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:04.560 I didn't want to replace them. 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:11.199 And so it just it just kind of all came together in a moment where I was like, I have to make a decision here. 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:12.560 Like, what am I gonna do? 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:16.560 Am I gonna keep doing the thing that I know because I feel like that's what I should do? 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:18.719 Or am I gonna let it all go? 00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:23.280 And am I gonna go after the thing that I really want to do, which is to speak and coach? 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:33.199 I had already been speaking, I'd already been coaching, I already had the Gutsy podcast at that time, but I wasn't putting but like, I don't know, maybe 10 or 15% of my time and effort into it. 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:38.000 And I was getting all boo-hoo-ey about why it wasn't working and why it wasn't taking off. 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:40.000 And I was like, I'm in a fork in a road. 00:03:40.159 --> 00:03:41.039 What am I gonna do? 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:44.319 And I had a I had a really good, ugly meltdown. 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:46.479 I got very honest with myself. 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:47.919 What do I actually want? 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:49.599 I want to speak and coach. 00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:54.240 I decided to sell the agency that was in uh July of 2023. 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:57.599 By that December, it was sold and I left the industry. 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:08.240 So it happened very quickly, but I think when you're in alignment, I think that when you get very honest with yourself and then you take the action that backs it up, I think that things can happen very quickly. 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:11.520 So that that's probably one of my recent fucking moments. 00:04:12.080 --> 00:04:18.079 I like that you must have known some because you've already had the podcast in play. 00:04:18.480 --> 00:04:26.639 So there must have been a little part of you that knew you want, as you were saying, you wanted to do the coaching uh and keynote speaking. 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:30.720 However, you weren't giving it your you're giving it 10 or 15 percent. 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:41.759 Um and that once you turned that you you listen to yourself and your instinct and your you know your your inner self, things started to turn around. 00:04:41.920 --> 00:04:48.160 And that's the next thing I'd like to talk to you about, Laura, or and ask you is the trust factor. 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:50.160 You talk a lot about trust. 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:59.839 And for myself, when I um when I was going through my, well, I'm still going through my midlife edit, as I call it, and pruning my garden and getting the weeds out. 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:25.920 And uh,

for a lot of women in our audience at home that uh will be listening to this episode, that's what it's about is listening to that innate wisdom that I could go on with this business that I've built for this amount of time, I could go on with this marriage that I gave my vows to, I could go on doing this, I could go on doing that, that we've talked about in you know, social expectation conditioning. 00:05:26.959 --> 00:05:33.600 But we find it a little bit hard, I find, as women, because we give, give, give, give so much. 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:38.959 I know men do too, but to trust that wisdom in that and that innate voice. 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:40.399 Would you agree with that? 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:41.600 Oh, absolutely. 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:48.560 I mean, so many women are are just they're conditioned to be everything for everyone else. 00:05:48.720 --> 00:06:02.319 And whether that's learned behavior, whether that's societal expectations, whether that's something that was modeled in your life, we're just taught to put ourselves on the back burner to make sure everything and everyone else is taken care of, to do things the right way, right? 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:04.399 Follow this right path of life. 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:10.639 And something really incredible happens around 50, where women just stop giving a fuck about that stuff. 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:17.199 It's like I I've built my whole life around the expectations of others, and I'm gonna do it my way this time. 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:19.439 I I'm no longer willing to settle. 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:23.519 And a lot of that starts with listening to yourself. 00:06:23.680 --> 00:06:28.560 Like women don't even slow down long enough to hear themselves, to be able to trust it. 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:29.120 Right? 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:39.600 They're they're just they're they're going quickly, they're they're helping people, they're doing things, and I'm not saying helping people is bad, but it's like, at what point is it too much? 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:40.160 Right? 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:42.399 Where where do you fit into that equation? 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:44.319 Is what I really want to ask you. 00:06:44.560 --> 00:07:00.800 And so we have to be willing to slow down long enough to even hear ourselves to be able to trust what that nudge or that feeling or that idea really is saying to you, because that trust is a is a cornerstone for the next breakthrough in your life. 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:01.120 Right? 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:03.120 I call it. 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:05.759 Absolutely. 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:13.120 Yeah, and for our listeners at home that you know maybe doing the ditches or have actually paused there for a second and went, hang on, this sounds me. 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:21.680 Leave us something in in the box below in and tell us if this is you if hang on, I've got a little nudge like this, but I keep ignoring it. 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:24.560 For me, it was I

kept going on, well, this will do. 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:25.600 This will do. 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:34.879 And we hear it a lot, we hear it, it's starting to come into books and things, and you know, um around 50, things are changing for women. 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:40.879 And the old model, I guess, where we're taught to shut up, put up. 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:44.879 And the generation I was bought in was children and seen and not heard. 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:53.680 The danger of that, of course, is when we we we don't speak, we we just end up not speaking at all and just get on and put up and shut up, and it's very dangerous. 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:57.040 And if that's you, you know, for our listeners, let us know. 00:07:57.199 --> 00:07:58.959 Let us know if that's how you're feeling. 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:13.120 The other thing, uh, Laura, is I like how you talk about when you found your uh you listened to your trust, you listen to your what you're going to do and move on and sell your business. 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:17.839 And in your business, you talked about charging your worth. 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:25.600 Because there's a lot of women in business that will look at a price of something and say, oh, that's outrageous. 00:08:25.759 --> 00:08:27.839 Um, I can't charge that. 00:08:28.160 --> 00:08:30.079 Uh, no one will pay that. 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:33.200 All that self-talk we do to ourselves. 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:40.720 Talk to us a little bit about that where you came to that idea that I'm charging what I'm worth. 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:49.919 In in Australia, we say uh it might be everywhere in the world, but it's you know, I'm charging, um charging what it's worth and adding tax as well. 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:50.480 Yeah. 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:51.519 You know, yeah. 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:55.600 Yeah, that's saying it's such a it's such a unique journey. 00:08:55.759 --> 00:09:02.559 And you know, it also comes back to your relationship with money, what your upbringing and your belief system around money is. 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:15.600 You know, for me, I had a lot, a lot, a lot of stuff to unpack and rewire around what kind of money I was allowed to have, or what money meant to me, or what it meant about me, right? 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:22.799 So I grew up in a household where money is the root of all evil, and you know, money makes you feel like you're better than everybody else. 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:27.759 And oh, it Lars up on a pedestal, and and she thinks she's this and she thinks she's that. 00:09:27.840 --> 00:09:35.440 And so I grew up with those beliefs that money was a bad thing, that if I had money, I was gonna be an asshole. 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:38.240 Yeah, I mean, that's literally how I equated it. 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:48.879 So charging my worth felt like such a distant concept of like who would I even be to charge money because that's gonna make me a bad person. 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:52.799 Well, money doesn't make you a bad person, money amplifies who you already are. 00:09:53.759 --> 00:10:05.759 So we have to we have to start separating ourselves from the stories and the beliefs that we were brought up with and and rewrite what money is to me and what does it amplify in me? 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:12.320 Like I am a giver, I want to pour back into my community, I want to help support more women, right? 00:10:12.399 --> 00:10:16.000 Like money amplifies the greatness in me. 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:24.960 And when I'm just like like hiding behind it and undercharging, all I'm doing is wrecking my life. 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:29.519 Like I've been through more financial challenges than I care to even count. 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:35.200 And there was just this moment where I was like, I can't, I can't keep repeating this cycle. 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:38.080 One, it's not my cycle, so I need to get out of it. 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:50.559 But two, this is this choice, because that's what it is a choice to undercharge or not charge at all, is stopping me from fulfilling a purpose that I have, which is to help and guide and support more women. 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:56.159 So I had to reframe and re-re look at the way that I looked at money, the way that I felt about money. 00:10:56.240 --> 00:11:00.960 I've had to repair my relationship with money, and now it's just a non-negotiable. 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:09.360 Like money allows me to do the work that I was intended to do and help the people on this planet that I was intended to help. 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:11.440 So I can't be undercharging. 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:13.440 We don't have time for that anymore. 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:14.480 I like that. 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:23.919 And I I I can somewhat um concur with that growing up, you know, that uh don't be big headed about it, stay back in your lane. 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:26.240 Uh, who do you think you are? 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:30.080 Uh tall poppy syndrome, don't get above your station. 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:38.879 Uh, you know, and it's a little bit um, you know, you know that you you can feel the calling, you know you need to help other people. 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:46.720 And to do that, you need you need to have resources and to put back into your community, to put back into the world as a large. 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:59.679 Uh, you know, to as you were saying, it's not about your relationship or my relationship with money, it's about what we've been told about money and repairing, and I like that. 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:02.879 I like that it's repairing your relationship with money. 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:04.720 I think that's fantastic. 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:14.960 Because, yeah, if you have a crappy relationship with money, um how can you go on and charge your worth exactly? 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:23.919 Laura, the other thing um I I want to talk to you about, and I love that you mention is the word no.

00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:25.120 No. 00:12:27.919 --> 00:12:29.840 And you're not I love I love a good no. 00:12:29.919 --> 00:12:34.320 It still makes me a little antsy sometimes, but it's antsy in my way. 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:41.360 In antsy in the way, usually for me, it's paired with I don't want to rock the boat or upset somebody. 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:50.720 Yeah, I don't want to let somebody down, I don't want to, you know, mess with somebody else's ideas or plans or whatever. 00:12:51.039 --> 00:13:01.679 But anytime I say yes when I know that I'm supposed to say no, again, that comes back to trusting yourself, which means slowing down long enough to listen to what that looks and feels like in your body. 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:03.360 See, it's all connected here. 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:09.200 Anytime I go against myself, I don't trust when I want to say no and I say yes instead. 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:14.480 I always end up in a situation where I'm like, Yep, should have said no. 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:16.639 I should have trusted that, right? 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:22.320 Because something takes more time, it drains my energy, I'm I'm not in the right space or place. 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:26.960 I, you know, like it's I just know that I needed to protect that time. 00:13:27.039 --> 00:13:29.440 And if I go against it, I know what's at stake. 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:33.200 So I've gotten a lot better at saying no. 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:36.240 I am not perfect at it, nor do I think anybody is. 00:13:36.559 --> 00:13:48.799 But the the the goal here is to get more comfortable holding your own boundaries, knowing when you need to say no, and then following through with that for yourself. 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:59.679 That's so much what about midlife is really about, I think, is learning to come back to yourself, honoring yourself, your needs, your wants, your desires, your boundaries. 00:13:59.759 --> 00:14:04.480 It's like resetting the game and starting over, but from a fresh sleet. 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:05.440 Yeah. 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:11.440 I I agree with I think that it our true identity is within us. 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:14.399 It's the we're born with it, so to speak. 00:14:14.639 --> 00:14:18.480 It's the uh what's the word I'm looking for? 00:14:18.720 --> 00:14:24.799 Uh the messages that we get sent on the road in life that no, that's not what girls do. 00:14:25.600 --> 00:14:27.039 That's not what you need to do. 00:14:27.200 --> 00:14:40.720 You know, and and to some degree, uh the education system, if only it taught us a little bit more about uh I know we all need to learn to read and write, and it's all very important, and I get all that. 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:48.480 I was only thinking the other day though, a lot of what I learned in high school, you know, I think we could have It's gone. 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:48.960 It's gone. 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:50.159 Yeah, absolutely. 00:14:50.320 --> 00:14:54.559 And I think we could have done with learning some more life skills. 00:14:55.600 --> 00:15:05.279 Which is yeah, I mean, that's that's half the reason why uh the the coaching and the mentor industry exists because we were never taught those things. 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:13.519 We weren't taught how to trust ourselves, we weren't taught how to listen, we weren't taught how to um make decisions, you know. 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:22.639 We were taught how to read the pay, the the I can't even, I don't even remember what it's called, the the table of elements in science, you know what I mean? 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:38.799 Like I okay, I know H2O is water, that's about the extent that it goes, you know, and you know, not discounting that there's some people that maybe science was their thing and that helped set them up for success, but why why not infuse life into school? 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:51.679 Why not help people understand taxes or how to handle money better or how to have conversations, how to show up in relationships, how to how to trust yourself. 00:15:51.840 --> 00:15:57.919 You know, these are these are life skills that we're we're all on a journey and a path to figure figure out. 00:15:58.240 --> 00:15:58.720 Yes. 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:11.519 And I like what you just said about the coaching and mentoring industry, that that's why it exists, because there are so many of us that don't, didn't trust ourselves. 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:29.120 The other thing, Laura, we you talk about, and I I really like is teaching women to be bold, bold, and that um, you know, it's I I still catch myself at times too, like we were just talking about, just to rewind for a second, no. 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:34.879 And when I say no, and then I tend to start to go, um no. 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:38.799 No, but oh no, uh well, yeah. 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:40.080 Yeah, no, I don't do that. 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:41.200 It's no. 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:45.519 Uh and then if I'm pushed a little bit, if I feel like giving a reason, I will. 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:56.320 Uh but this bold, being bold, I've learned in my own experience, is I used to think it was arrogance, but it's not because I've struggled with that. 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:57.360 Like, am I being arrogant? 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:00.080 Like you were saying earlier, am I being an asshole here? 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:21.359 Um, because the old Lara would have dropped everything she's doing, as you were saying before, said yes to my own detriment, ran someone around, whatever the the task was at the time, felt exhausted, taken three times longer than it needs to, because I was meant to be doing something else that I was doing when I got interrupted. 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:36.720 And it's that boldness and not cheekiness, but I've learned myself, and tell me if you agree with this, and for our listeners um at home, it's about uh it's a little bit of practice, would you say? 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:38.559 Oh,

absolutely. 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:45.519 I mean, when anytime you do anything new or that you're not used to, it takes practice. 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:50.880 You're gonna flub it up a little bit, you know, it's it's gonna feel awkward. 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:56.559 You might feel like you might say no and then go home and like hyperventilate a little bit because you're like, oh my gosh, what did I just do? 00:17:56.640 --> 00:17:57.119 You know what I mean? 00:17:57.200 --> 00:18:01.680 But it's it's not because it's wrong, it's because it's new, it's new to you. 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:14.880 And the only way that the things that you know and do right now that are familiar that are like you can do with your eyes closed, the only reason that they're so comfortable and familiar is because at one point you were new at it and you stuck with it. 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:29.920 And so the same, the same goes with trusting yourself, with saying no, with holding boundaries, with charging your worth, like any of these changes that you're making in this phase of your life, starting over in a relationship, it's not wrong because it's uncomfortable. 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:31.680 It's uncomfortable because it's new. 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:39.920 So if you give yourself that grace to say, okay, this feels a little bumpy, this feels a little awkward, this feels a little like, what am I doing? 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:42.960 I mean, you're just simply at the beginning of a new journey. 00:18:43.200 --> 00:18:46.799 And if you stay on that journey, you're gonna get the results that you're looking for. 00:18:48.319 --> 00:19:00.799 And do you believe, Laura Aura, that uh there's more women today that we talk about, you know, when we we approach our 50 year mark that are listening? 00:19:01.039 --> 00:19:11.920 Like I can remember my grandmother was she just did what she thought was her due diligence until uh, you know, she was in her eighties and then eventually passed away. 00:19:12.319 --> 00:19:15.759 I don't recall her having any big epiphany or anything at 50. 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:19.440 They just continued on with their their life as they knew. 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:20.799 What do you think? 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:24.079 I'm really curious that's what's changed. 00:19:24.400 --> 00:19:26.160 Like I'm a gen X woman. 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:28.319 What do you think's changed? 00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:29.759 Do you think it's education? 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:43.200 We've talked about education in the traditional sense at school, but do you think it's more education coming at us that we deserve more and more about coaching and learning as opposed to our grandmothers, so to speak? 00:19:44.079 --> 00:19:46.319 I think that the conversation has changed. 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:50.000 I think that one we're actually talking about it. 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:53.440 I mean, I'm a so I'm an elder millennial. 00:19:53.599 --> 00:19:55.119 Um, you're Gen X. 00:19:55.759 --> 00:20:03.039 You know, our parents and grandparents they weren't having these conversations, and if they were, nobody knew about it. 00:20:03.920 --> 00:20:08.640 You know, it was probably behind very closed doors with a very select few people. 00:20:09.119 --> 00:20:12.720 So the conversation has changed because the conversation is happening. 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:17.119 And I think that that conversation is happening because people are being bold online. 00:20:18.480 --> 00:20:27.839 I mean, we have access to podcasts, to TV shows, to you know, social media accounts, to blogs, to substacks. 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:30.079 I mean, we've got endless information. 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:34.720 Sometimes it's a a bit much, but we have access to it. 00:20:35.039 --> 00:20:37.200 So we can have the conversation. 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:48.000 And when one woman says, Hey, you know, talking about being bold, I think it's so incredibly bold when a woman is saying, Hey, I'm going through this, hey, I'm struggling with this, hey, I've been through this. 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:57.599 It gives thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions of other women access to information that otherwise they would have might maybe thought that they were losing their mind. 00:20:57.920 --> 00:20:58.240 Yeah. 00:20:58.400 --> 00:20:58.640 Right? 00:20:58.720 --> 00:21:02.799 It it tells them, like, hey, I thought I was the only one. 00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:04.319 You're going through this too. 00:21:04.400 --> 00:21:05.839 Let's talk about it more. 00:21:06.240 --> 00:21:14.880 And so when we're having the conversation, we're taking the stigma away, we're taking the stereotype away, and we're coming up with solutions. 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:17.359 Like, hey, we're all going through this together. 00:21:17.519 --> 00:21:19.119 Why don't we try this together? 00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:19.920 You know what I mean? 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:26.720 So I think it's just become more normalized to talk and to find those solutions together instead of fighting it alone. 00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:27.759 I love that. 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:32.640 And I think it's um a new age type of community. 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:46.640 I know my grandmother, for instance, would be sitting around a kitchen table with her neighbors, maybe peeling potatoes and apples for, you know, dinner when the husband got home or whatever, my grandfather. 00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:48.160 And I can remember that. 00:21:48.240 --> 00:21:52.079 And that was their community, sitting around the table in their aprons. 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:54.559 I can distinctly remember with the newspaper. 00:21:54.720 --> 00:21:56.079 That was their community. 00:21:56.240 --> 00:21:59.359 Yes, there wasn't any technology and what we've got today. 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:10.640 And we've well although we've lost that kind of because women have gone out to work and different than what I'm not saying that women didn't work in those days, different

kind of work. 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:14.319 We now look for that community, as you were saying. 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:18.240 I like how you've touched on that, that there's more information. 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:19.599 Oh, I'm not the only one. 00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:27.599 Oh this, what I'm feeling internally, is really going against everything, or not against, but different to how I was brought up. 00:22:27.759 --> 00:22:30.640 And I'm really, really wanting to pursue this. 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:35.599 And if I know for myself, I thought at one point, am I losing my mind? 00:22:35.920 --> 00:22:36.960 What's going on with me? 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:38.400 What's what's this big change? 00:22:38.480 --> 00:22:40.480 I I'm not sure how I'm feeling about it. 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:46.319 It's feeling a little bit different, viscerally, you know, like my body's changing, my mind's changing. 00:22:46.480 --> 00:22:48.240 But as you're saying, it's just that. 00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:55.440 Um, and I think as you were saying, about um there's a little bit too much information and things out there too. 00:22:55.599 --> 00:23:02.880 But I think what we're all craving a little bit more too is human, human connection and and it's out there, it's just different. 00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:06.079 And you say it's not wrong, it's not right, it's different. 00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:08.400 That's what I say to my mentoring clients. 00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:10.559 It's not wrong, it's not right, it's different. 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:19.359 And we if we can just embrace different, embrace change, I think, you know, I think we can we've got the perfect whatever perfect is. 00:23:19.519 --> 00:23:20.079 But yeah. 00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:21.599 Absolutely. 00:23:22.319 --> 00:23:22.799 All right. 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:26.400 As we wind up today, Laura Aura, it's been a thank you. 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:31.599 Thank you for your amazing insights into uh midlife for women. 00:23:31.759 --> 00:23:36.720 As we wrap up today, what's one non-negotiable for you now? 00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:54.799 We've talked about some non-negotiables that you've got, but one you wake up of a morning and you do your morning routine, and what's one non-negotiable for Laura or in in your life as an elder millennial that wouldn't have been say five years ago or 10 years ago? 00:23:55.759 --> 00:23:56.960 White space. 00:23:57.359 --> 00:24:01.200 Space where I don't have to be anything other than me. 00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:09.200 I'm not answering to anything, I'm not, I'm not on, I'm not activated, I'm not running, I'm not doing, I'm just simply being. 00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:14.079 And sometimes that's sitting on my couch drinking my cup of coffee by myself in the morning. 00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:21.279 Sometimes that's sitting on my porch when the sunshine is out and it's actually warm, um, and just looking around outside. 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:35.440 You know, just having space in my day where I'm not having to be on and go and do, that has made such a huge difference for me and my stress and my anxiety and just like my overall well-being. 00:24:35.599 --> 00:24:40.240 It just allows me to have some breathroom and uh and I'm a lot better for it. 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:41.440 I love that. 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:42.880 White space. 00:24:43.119 --> 00:24:44.559 Everybody, can you hear that? 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:45.680 White space. 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:51.920 You don't have to go penciling it in your diary, you don't have to go, oh, I need white space today. 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:56.720 As Laura Orra was just saying, sit on the porch and take a couple with you. 00:24:57.759 --> 00:24:58.160 Yeah. 00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:00.400 Pat your dog for 10 minutes. 00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:05.119 Just find something in your day that you don't have to be anything, you can just be. 00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:07.119 Wow. 00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:08.480 Love it, love it, love it. 00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:10.079 Thank you so much, Laura Aura. 00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:14.559 As we wrap up, another episode of Midlife Unplugged the Fucker Is. 00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:17.680 Thank you so much to Laura Aura again. 00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:21.599 Uh, and I can't wait to see you all on our next episode. 00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:22.799 Bye for now. 00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:27.680 That's a wrap of this episode of Midlife Unplugged the Fucker Is. 00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:29.200 It's today's conversation. 00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:30.559 It's something I can do. 00:25:31.200 --> 00:25:34.960 Subscribe, share it with your midlife crew, and keep the conversation going. 00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:36.319 I'm Laura Fortnite. 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:38.480 See you next week with another four week.