Authenticity, Fearless Creativity, and Becoming You의 전체 녹취록

before the world catches up. 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:33.600 Can you explain that? 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:40.560 Yeah, you know, I very much came from a really, really isolated situation. 00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:51.519 I grew up kind of telling myself that my personality, quote unquote, was someone who wasn't very social and someone that didn't connect to people. 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:53.839 And I was fully convinced of this. 00:05:53.839 --> 00:06:00.160 But what I didn't understand is that I had my vision and my creative passion. 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:17.759 And I I believed in that myself, but I was fully surrounded by people that were either not sharing in that type of you know, path that I can relate to, but also more importantly, I wasn't really sharing it with anyone either. 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:19.920 I was just kind of keeping it to myself. 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:34.639 But there there are a couple kind of points to that because yes, it is important to kind of practice that self-love, love and appreciate, respect yourself, create your own sense of harmony and peace, and then you kind of bring that light into the world, right? 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:36.000 That's kind of the idea. 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:39.199 So, yes, absolutely believe in yourself. 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:42.160 You don't really need the validation from other people. 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:53.519 But at the same time, when given the opportunity to share and be authentic with other people, take advantage of that too, because you don't always know who your supporters are if you're not sharing anything. 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:56.079 So maybe there are other people that believe in you too. 00:06:56.319 --> 00:06:58.240 Well, and how true that is, right? 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:06.160 Like many times as artists, we find ourselves we kind of isolate away from things because we get into our headspace. 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:12.079 But when we keep ourselves from that, we sort of miss out hearing who the fan club might be. 00:07:12.720 --> 00:07:13.759 Absolutely. 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:17.600 Yeah, we we just assume it's not there for a long time, too. 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:18.240 Right? 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:24.639 I mean, it's like, oh, look, there are people that support and actually appreciate what I'm doing. 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:29.439 And if we don't put ourselves out there, we often don't hear that. 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:30.000 Right. 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:33.040 And then we go into telling ourselves stories, right? 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:34.560 You know, it's fun. 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:37.439 Then we just are in our own heads criticizing ourselves. 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:43.600 You say that you didn't chase inspiration, it found you. 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:45.040 How did that happen? 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:54.560 I've always had creative visions that have surfaced, uh, mind's eye, I guess, is a way to say it. 00:07:54.560 --> 00:08:09.279 Since I was five years old, I have always had these big visions of stories and film and creations and random flashes of design kind of pop into my head sometimes. 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:11.439 So it all just surfaces. 00:08:11.439 --> 00:08:13.759 I don't really know where it comes from. 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:18.079 Uh I guess it comes from somewhere, but I I don't try to make it happen. 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:19.439 I don't really look for inspiration. 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:21.120 I just kind of it just happens. 00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:24.480 Isn't it interesting when we don't force something? 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:30.079 Like so many times we are locked into, I've got to create, I've got to do something. 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:30.639 Yeah. 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:37.919 And and when we kind of take a breath and step back, is that what you're sort of talking about? 00:08:37.919 --> 00:08:46.799 That you're not pushing it, you're not forcing it, you're it's manifesting in some of the most random ways and places. 00:08:47.120 --> 00:08:48.000 Yeah, absolutely. 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:59.200 And I think maybe that may be something that, you know, I I maybe just have the fortune of that too, because I've never known the other side of that. 00:08:59.200 --> 00:09:06.399 I've only known um since I was little my whole life, um, random things just kind of surfacing. 00:09:06.399 --> 00:09:09.039 So, you know, and I've never practiced it. 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:13.840 So it's it's not even something that I can say, well, here's here's the process, right? 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:25.519 If I'm given some type of creative project or assignment, I go, you know, this is my mantra, and I go into this dark room and like I don't really have that process. 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:31.360 But I really do just allow things to serve it's it's it's just the way that I've always been. 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:34.799 So it's funny because I don't think I know the other side of that. 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:53.279 Well, it's gotta feel pretty good because I've I myself and I know several artist friends that will get wrapped up in something and we miss that opportunity to find it because we've already preconceived it's supposed to be this way, and this is where creativity is gonna come from. 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:53.919 Dang it. 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:55.759 No, don't do that. 00:09:55.759 --> 00:10:14.159 Yeah, it's it's it's kind of like, you know, if you were gonna practice graphic design, for example, and you just wanted to play in that world, and you were just simply organizing some spheres or circles on your you know, illustrator window. 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:15.039 You know what I mean? 00:10:15.039 --> 00:10:28.399 It's just kind of if if you're used to just playing and you're just used to creativity surfacing and being fun and coming together in a flow, I would I would recommend that as the process. 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:33.039 I I am of course gonna recommend that people try that.

00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:48.960 Well, when when we came into COVID all those years ago now, and my art, I'm a photographer, I stage and manage and direct scenes, I'm not looking for that spontaneous moment really. 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:54.480 And I ran into a situation that I couldn't be around people. 00:10:54.480 --> 00:11:01.039 We had lockdown, and and I'm sitting here going, what do I do? 00:11:01.039 --> 00:11:03.039 Where do I go? 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:11.120 And in those moments, it's like this panic because I knew how it worked, and now it doesn't. 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:20.639 And I think through that I experienced a level of creativity because it was suddenly popping into my head. 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:22.960 I didn't have all that other noise going on. 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:24.320 So it was quite exciting. 00:11:24.320 --> 00:11:30.960 It gave me a whole new avenue to go down, which now, you know, a handful of years later, I'm still doing that. 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:38.080 And it's actually turned into one of the biggest works of my practice since I started. 00:11:38.080 --> 00:11:46.000 So it, you know, yeah, I like this idea of, you know, let's be random, let's see what happens, let's take a breath. 00:11:46.720 --> 00:11:47.519 Absolutely. 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:53.600 And just really not caring so much about the limitations, you know. 00:11:53.600 --> 00:12:06.240 But like, who who told you that there were limitations when it came to even designing something as simple as a birthday card, for example, like just anything, like, oh, I'm planning this party for my friend. 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:09.600 Who told you that it had to be this traditional thing? 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:12.000 Like, what's purpose thing for you? 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:12.960 What sounds fun? 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:18.159 You know, it doesn't have to fit anything, it's it's just something that you're creating. 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:26.320 Well, and you know, I teach and I tell students in my art classes, art has no rules, but I kind of forget that sometimes. 00:12:26.320 --> 00:12:28.320 It's like I have rules. 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:28.879 Right. 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:30.720 We live in structure, you know. 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:40.000 I mean, I'm I'm currently developing my first short film, and it's it's specifically being created to submit to Tribeca. 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:51.919 And I'm now going through that process where I'm kind of storyboarding right now, and I'm telling myself, you know, there are no rules, but at the same time, there is a structure here. 00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:59.200 Like, you know, you you can create the structure, you know, it can be your structure, but there does have to be a structure. 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:00.080 So it's interesting. 00:13:00.320 --> 00:13:07.360 So now I want to jump into something that you talk about using art to bridge the invisible with the visible. 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:10.639 What does that mean for you in your own practice? 00:13:10.639 --> 00:13:15.360 Like you're talking about this opportunity to create this film for Tribeca. 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:17.440 How does that manifest for you? 00:13:17.840 --> 00:13:24.320 A lot of kind of connecting the invisible to the visible, a lot of it is bringing things into reality. 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:43.840 So think about, you know, if we want to go with the term soul level or, you know, inner calling or that inner kind of compass voice, frequency, the different types of layers that we kind of move within energetically as we exist, right, in a universe. 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:53.759 Whatever is calling to you, whatever is pulling, as that emerges and surfaces, maybe you have some of the visuals kind of come in, right? 00:13:53.759 --> 00:14:00.159 Making the invisible the visible is that entire process because it still has to come without shame. 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:03.360 It has to come without judgment, it has to come without limitations. 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:09.919 If something is surfacing for a film for you and you start judging it, well, what if people don't like it? 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:17.279 Well, what if someone watches it halfway through and they have something to say about it that doesn't make me feel so great? 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:30.000 If you start coming at it in that way, when it's still in that invisible realm, what you're gonna bring into the visible is not gonna be authentic because you've already prejudged it. 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:42.879 So that kind of process and practice is bring the invisible into the visible, you know, bring your bring your light into the reality of the world as a something that you've but you've actually created without judging it so much. 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:44.960 It's one of those things too, right? 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:47.360 That we're our worst critics. 00:14:47.600 --> 00:14:48.720 Yeah, absolutely. 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:59.840 So yeah, this idea that we are our worst critics really does stop us from experiencing what you're talking about. 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:04.240 Yeah, you know, something that a lot of people have really touched on lately. 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:07.200 And I I've maybe I'm just hearing it more and more. 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:11.279 It's one of those things like you buy a red car, you see red cars everywhere. 00:15:11.279 --> 00:15:21.600 But there's this conversation revolving around reparenting yourself and rewiring your brain as an adult and understanding where those stories are coming from. 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:36.159 So when you find yourself going through that critique and you you're constantly saying, I'm my own worst enemy, I'm always standing in my own way, and I'm always my biggest critic, where is it coming from? 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:42.480 You know, it's like taking a pause to that and kind of looking at it, observing it, unpacking it. 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:57.120 And then that's kind of

like moving towards or leaning towards the hope of I'm gonna stop criticizing myself so much, and instead I'm gonna practice love and acceptance and you know, not shame over every idea that I have. 00:15:57.440 --> 00:16:02.799 You know, I want to touch on something and tell me if this isn't the right place for it. 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:11.759 But, you know, you talk about um in some of your writings, your family and such, and that you owe them nothing but truth. 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:14.000 Is this where that's coming from? 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:15.679 Yeah, absolutely. 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:21.600 You know, I I definitely was brought up in a in a somewhat broken family dynamic. 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:26.799 And it it just wasn't what I wouldn't consider it to be healthy. 00:16:26.799 --> 00:16:41.200 It it seemed more, you know, survival, like a lot of people kind of living in survival mode and just kind of becoming an adult and understanding that I'm responsible for my present and my future. 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:43.840 And there is no blame, right? 00:16:43.840 --> 00:16:50.000 It's not they're wrong or they didn't do XYZ. 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:54.480 They're their own people as individuals and their own experiences. 00:16:54.480 --> 00:17:10.160 And now it's my kind of responsibility to kind of rewire a little bit, uh, unpack and practice the kind of I accept that that's how I grew up, but it, you know, you don't let it follow you. 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:13.200 So you just kind of rewire, rewire a little bit. 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:24.960 That you're talking about does this help you then heal something that might have been from childhood that you recognize? 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:27.440 Because you said about parenting yourself now. 00:17:27.440 --> 00:17:28.880 I I like that. 00:17:28.880 --> 00:17:34.240 That just feels so much that it's healing as a process. 00:17:34.559 --> 00:17:35.200 Absolutely. 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:46.559 It's it's been a it's been an incredibly healing journey for me to, in, in kind of a sense, take responsibility and ownership as an adult in my life, right? 00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:57.119 And acknowledge that myself and everyone else doesn't have control over how they were brought up. 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:03.200 We don't all have control over the the small chapter of our childhoods. 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:12.160 And I think a lot of people tend to carry their childhood with them throughout their entire life journey. 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:17.119 What I'm yeah, and I'm definitely trying not to do that, essentially. 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:20.400 Basically just trying to avoid that. 00:18:20.720 --> 00:18:22.960 I think you're right that we all have that, right? 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:40.160 There's things that happen in our childhoods, and I like to think that I had a pretty stable environment, but I know there were things about it that weren't building the best me coming up of for authenticity, at least who

I am today. 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:40.720 Yeah. 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:50.000 So yeah, I I just think that when you can find something like that that helps you kind of process and get beyond it, that's sort of amazing. 00:18:50.319 --> 00:18:52.480 Yeah, it's it's kind of like a superpower. 00:18:52.480 --> 00:19:13.680 If you want to find you know your own little superpower internally, that's that's definitely a way to kind of go about it, where it's just kind of if I take ultimate responsibility for the way I view the world and the stories I tell myself as an adult, who is aware um, then I get to walk with that type of confidence and reassurance, right? 00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:23.839 Versus someone did something and it's someone else's fault that I that I'm bad at math, you know, I didn't learn right because of someone else, or you know. 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:27.759 Well, and that just kind of leaps into this next one. 00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:36.720 You in your writings had this Dolly quote, have no fear of perfection, you'll never reach it. 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:37.759 Yeah. 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:40.240 Talk to me about this. 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:41.359 I love this. 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:43.759 You know what it reminds me of? 00:19:43.759 --> 00:19:50.000 The thing that really pulls me towards that quote is the fact that we remain students. 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:55.599 We're never, we never can know and absorb everything. 00:19:55.599 --> 00:20:00.160 We can't ever, we we can't even fully create everything that we ever want to create. 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:10.000 So there this idea of perfection, when we all remain students to the death of our life, just doesn't exist. 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:11.839 It perfection simply doesn't exist. 00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:13.119 It just can't. 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:22.000 Well, and how many of us, you know, me included, that we look at this isn't perfect. 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:24.319 So I'm not gonna put it out there. 00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:25.519 Yes. 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:40.400 Yeah, a lot of people go through something like imposter syndrome and imperfection of I'm gonna I'm gonna start posting to social media, you know, every day. 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:44.240 Well, I'll start it next week because I don't like what I created this week. 00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:45.279 And yeah. 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:54.480 Well, and we sit in studios and we sit in our little writing dens or, you know, wherever our creative space happens to be. 00:20:54.480 --> 00:20:57.279 And again, it gets back to what we talked earlier. 00:20:57.279 --> 00:21:01.920 If we don't ever put it out there, how's it ever going to get out there? 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:03.279 Right. 00:21:03.279 --> 00:21:05.039 Release the rough cuts. 00:21:05.039 --> 00:21:05.440 Yeah. 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:13.599 I mean just put it out there because we're all trying to find people that we truly authentically connect to. 00:21:13.599 --> 00:21:15.920

And it's something that we all crave. 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:18.000 It's it's part of the human experience. 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:19.599 We all want connection. 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:23.039 Um, connection doesn't always exist in your home. 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:27.359 It doesn't always exist, you know, with the neighbors you're currently surrounded by. 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:38.160 Sometimes it's connection from another state, another city, uh, a community you've never even, you know, heard about, but they found you somewhere because you decided to share something. 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:44.400 I like that you use this quote and it talks about no fear. 00:21:44.400 --> 00:21:53.519 And just imagine, as we as artists, if we were to actually approach those things with no fear, where could we get? 00:21:54.079 --> 00:21:59.599 Yeah, you would, you know, you would get the essence of of you, essentially, right? 00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:07.599 You would get the the no shame, the no judgment, the no heavy critiquing perfectionism. 00:22:07.599 --> 00:22:09.759 Does this fit in the industry? 00:22:09.759 --> 00:22:14.480 Is this competitive to the standards of XYZ? 00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:16.079 Who are my competitors? 00:22:16.079 --> 00:22:17.039 What are they doing? 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:19.279 You take all that away, that noise. 00:22:19.279 --> 00:22:20.640 You you get you. 00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:25.599 You you're basically birthing on some level a creation of yourself. 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:29.359 Well, and that just popped into my head, this self. 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:32.400 How many of us actually don't know who we are? 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:34.319 Yeah. 00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:34.880 Right? 00:22:35.039 --> 00:22:36.640 We've got yeah. 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:40.400 Filters, striving for perfection. 00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:42.000 We've got imposture syndrome. 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:51.039 You know, we we've talked these things, but it still gets back to if we don't know who we are, how do we, you know, we got to push through this. 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:52.559 We need to figure that out. 00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:59.680 That's kind of a key piece so that we can be not only authentic to the world, but to our own selves. 00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:09.440 Absolutely, because there's something that just, you know, we carry a lot of moments throughout our lives that just quote unquote don't feel right. 00:23:09.440 --> 00:23:15.519 And we don't always take the time to unpack why something just doesn't feel right. 00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:23.119 And that process is kind of what you're speaking to, knowing yourself, figuring out who you are. 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:32.480 You have to be able to have that kind of bravery and courage to approach those moments and those, because sometimes it's just something small. 00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:38.720 You go to someone's, you know, dinner party and they serve something and it's something just doesn't feel right. 00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:44.240 You don't want to eat something or you don't want to be around, you don't want to sit next to someone for whatever reason. 00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:50.319 It's kind of just like paying attention to those little pieces to figure out, you know, what's really going on. 00:23:50.559 --> 00:24:00.000 So, Tiffany, what is it that you hope then for all of us to gather from this? 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:14.559 What I would advocate for the most, and the thing that I've been kind of leaning towards as I've had these types of conversations, is the simplicity of be you. 00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:20.559 Because as simple as that is, the be you tackling it is massive. 00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:27.519 The amount of work to put in to truly be you takes a lot of courage. 00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:48.799 It takes a lot of fighting shame and old stories, and I'm not good enough, and this isn't perfect, and that places on this social level, and I'm on this other social level, and all of those judgments and every way we tear ourselves down, it's taking away from who you are essentially. 00:24:48.799 --> 00:25:05.599 So if you can just practice the be you, you can maybe start the journey, which in itself is a healing process, but it's also an un unraveling and a and a reveal at the end of it of you know your true nature and your true you. 00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:10.160 I was out, of course, doing some research and digging around. 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:16.000 And is this where your creativity comes from? 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:21.359 I saw you your Instagram, I saw that you have this creativity. 00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:22.400 Yeah. 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:25.680 Is that the impetus for this? 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:26.400 You know what? 00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:31.359 It's it's almost like I came up with that when I was in college. 00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:36.480 It was through the assignment of creating my own brand identity. 00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:46.000 So part of the assignment was create your own logo, think of some type of label or name that you can kind of market. 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:50.640 Um so that kind of tied into that. 00:25:50.640 --> 00:25:56.480 And as a student, I definitely was leaning towards self-discovery. 00:25:56.480 --> 00:26:02.240 I mean, I was also attending an art school, you know, majoring in creative spaces. 00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:12.400 So it wasn't too far away from what I was surrounded by, I would say, to come up with something that felt authentic, like connecting my name to the word creative. 00:26:12.400 --> 00:26:19.519 But yeah, I think, you know, that was definitely maybe like a seed, you know, one of the seeds planted um early on for sure. 00:26:19.839 --> 00:26:20.480 Nice. 00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:26.319 You talk about protecting your vision sometimes from your own self. 00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:28.480 What are we protecting it from? 00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:31.920 That really comes from vulnerability. 00:26:31.920 -->

00:26:47.119 So when my vision includes telling my story and that story is vulnerable, it's really easy for me to kind of, well, how can I make this so abstract that people don't know that I'm in there? 00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:48.319 You know? 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:51.920 So it's it's kind of like, well, what was your original vision? 00:26:51.920 --> 00:27:07.440 Because if your original vision was to share the vulnerable and to be honest and truthful, and you make it too abstract where you don't actually exist within the piece at all, then you, you know, you kind of have to. 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:09.279 You didn't really fully go there. 00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:21.200 What advice could you give someone who might be standing at this sort of moment in their practice and their creativity, in their work life, even. 00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:25.200 And they're torn between the practical and being authentic. 00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:32.559 I would say if you find yourself kind of looking in the mirror, I think even Steve Jobs made a quote like this. 00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:38.319 You look at your, you find yourself looking in the mirror too many days in a row and you don't like what's going on, you need to change it. 00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:41.039 I think that's that's a really great way to kind of put that. 00:27:41.039 --> 00:27:44.880 It's it's very much, you know, it ties into everything. 00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:59.440 It ties into your relationships, your work, the your chosen career, the education you've taken on, the house you live in, uh, your diet, your everything, the type of workout you, you, you're involved with. 00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:01.200 It taps into everything. 00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:08.559 So in order to find your authentic you, in order to be you, you have to really fight those battles. 00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:16.880 And it comes with a lot of feeling alone sometimes because not everyone's going to support the transformation of you becoming you. 00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:22.960 There may be some people that feel it's very impractical, that you're being too risky, that you're throwing money away. 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:28.160 Why would you go study in France when you have a perfectly great job here? 00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:32.559 Well, because that's what I want to do, and that's what I feel called to do, and I want to go do that. 00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:45.359 Really, really practicing that kind of ear towards yourself and your own inner voice and really understanding what the noise is versus who you are. 00:28:45.680 --> 00:28:48.880 Do you actually offer help to people? 00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:55.359 Because you know, you've you have these amazing life lessons that we've talked about today. 00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:57.599 And so many times we miss out on that. 00:28:57.599 --> 00:28:59.839 Like, is this a service you do? 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:01.759 Wow, that's well, that's thank you. 00:29:01.759 --> 00:29:02.799 That's very flattering. 00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:04.160 I don't. 00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:07.759 I yeah, I don't, I don't do any coaching or anything. 00:29:07.759 --> 00:29:14.240 It was something that I had thought about at one point, and then I just started to create film instead. 00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:20.720 Well, I'm really excited to see the film that you bring forth from all of this. 00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:29.599 I, you know, I'm definitely gonna follow you and see where that heads because I love the idea of an independent movie. 00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:35.039 I love all of those sorts of things and seeing the creativity that gets brought to the table through that. 00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:36.400 Yeah, absolutely. 00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.559 I'm I'm excited for this process. 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:52.799 I kind of see it as a win win situation because at the end of the day, even if the people of power of Tribeca do not, you know, maybe they view a few seconds of what I submit. 00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:57.279 You know, I know it's a big process and it's it's a heavy lifting for that team for sure. 00:29:57.279 --> 00:29:59.839 There are thousands of submissions, but it's it's it's a win. 00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:00.799 Win, right? 00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:03.519 Because I'm still going through the process of creating the film. 00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:04.480 So it's that journey. 00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:08.720 Well, and there's something to be said about just being on the journey. 00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:09.839 Absolutely. 00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:10.319 Right? 00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:12.000 It reminds us we're alive. 00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:12.559 Right. 00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:31.440 And then, you know, in the moment of even just something as simple as I'm gonna take on some storyboarding, you know, today, and then you get locked on something and you start judging yourself, and you go through maybe I need to sit in the bath for a little while, or maybe I need to go take a walk or take a nap. 00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:49.599 And you know, we we we still go through the the journey of emotions, and you know our our humanity and old stories still like to, you know, be triggered and talk back when they feel like they need to be a brat and throw a tantrum sometimes. 00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:57.599 Tiffany, as we start to wrap this up, is there anything that you want to leave us with as some final thoughts? 00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:10.160 I definitely grew up feeling I had, you know, I had my vision and I had my creativity and I had my ambitions with that, and that's the biggest thing that has driven me throughout my entire life. 00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:26.880 But I definitely experienced feeling like, you know, why would I share my story or why would I go to that group of people and join into their conversation, or you know, that community is already set, they don't need me to be involved. 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:30.720 And I definitely felt like I was in the way a lot growing up. 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.599 And I would definitely tell everybody that is not true. 00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:35.599 You definitely deserve space. 00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:51.839 The world absolutely values you and loves you, and there is community here for everybody, and there's a place for everyone, and everyone's voice matters, and your perspective is still you, and it's still special, and it's the value is you. 00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:57.119 If you can find a way to be you, you're sharing a big light in the world. 00:31:57.359 --> 00:31:59.519 That is an amazingly beautiful thought. 00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:01.599 Thank you for that, Tiffany. 00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:12.079 Thank you so much for being with us today and opening up and talking to us about this creativity and not pushing it and authenticity of yourself. 00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:13.759 I've really enjoyed our time. 00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:15.920 Likewise, this was amazing. 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:18.079 I had such a fun conversation with you. 00:32:18.079 --> 00:32:18.799 This was great. 00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:22.880 I feel like I I had I was able to kind of release some some stuff too. 00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:26.480 Like I was able to kind of, you know, it was it was nice to share. 00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:29.839 It was nice to just kind of be in this really beautiful conversation. 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:30.960 Oh, that's great. 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:32.319 That's what I want to hear. 00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:33.680 That's what this is about. 00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:35.279 So thank you again, Tiffany. 00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.680 I look forward to seeing where you go. 00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:44.640 Tiffany Smith's reminder to just be you really hits home. 00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:50.559 Because sometimes the most radical act of creativity is authenticity itself. 00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:57.839 If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to follow and subscribe to Lattes & Art wherever you get your podcast. 00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:02.559 And while you're there, leave us a five-star rating and a quick review. 00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:06.640 It really helps more listeners discover these creative conversations. 00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:18.000 You can also catch our sister show, Art Happens:, the divine mess of art history, where we dig into the chaos, beauty, and wild stories behind the world's masterpieces. 00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:20.880 Shows begin December 1st. 00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:28.799 Until next time, keep creating, keep questioning, and most importantly, keep being you.