Confidence and Self-Acceptance: A Big Sis Pep Talk | Jennifer Lee의 전체 녹취록

00:02:50.260 people are, are doing it for themselves because, you know, you just, you never know when you hear of situations where people maybe feel backed into something- 00:02:50.260 --> 00:02:50.320 Yes 00:02:50.324 --> 00:02:52.919 because of the-- And then you look behind and you look at the relationship. 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:53.991 Somebody's insulted them- 00:02:54.006 --> 00:02:54.216 Yeah 00:02:54.216 --> 00:02:55.520 and they're do-- Yeah. 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:56.531 Yeah, absolutely. 00:02:56.531 --> 00:02:56.674 I've, 00:02:56.687 --> 00:02:58.356 I've- The current relationship, whatever it may be. 00:02:58.356 --> 00:02:58.626 Yes. 00:02:58.641 --> 00:03:17.001 Although I will say, and I've told you before, years ago when I had surgery, I remember there was a guy in the waiting and the people at the office were like, "Oh, he's paying for everything for this, like, super young girl that was getting all this surgery done," and she didn't want him to know anything. 00:03:17.001 --> 00:03:23.093 So she just wanted him to pay for everything, and I just thought, "Gosh, where can we get-" "… where can we get one of those?" Like, where- 00:03:23.856 --> 00:03:24.754 They're all over the place. 00:03:24.770 --> 00:03:26.763 I don't, I don't think I'd wanna do- 00:03:26.763 --> 00:03:27.723 Those exist. 00:03:27.775 --> 00:03:30.038 I, you know, it's kind of weird to me. 00:03:30.054 --> 00:03:30.155 Yeah. 00:03:30.155 --> 00:03:35.902 But, like, I don't think I wanna do whatever is expected on the other end of having everything paid for. 00:03:36.008 --> 00:03:36.151 Agreed. 00:03:36.163 --> 00:03:36.800 Like, I think that's where we're just- 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:38.158 I mean, they're-- to each their own, though. 00:03:38.158 --> 00:03:38.891 Like, everybody- 00:03:39.002 --> 00:03:39.013 Totally 00:03:39.013 --> 00:03:40.990 everybody loves a setup in their life, and- 00:03:40.991 --> 00:03:41.248 Totally 00:03:41.256 --> 00:03:43.548 and maybe they're young and that's not who they're gonna be forever. 00:03:43.691 --> 00:03:43.721 Right. 00:03:43.721 --> 00:03:48.902 Maybe it's in the moment or- maybe somebody was just really willing to wanna pay for all those things. 00:03:48.959 --> 00:03:50.478 Uh, I mean- 00:03:50.489 --> 00:03:51.117 For whatever reason. 00:03:51.146 --> 00:03:53.806 I just feel like there's always n- there's no such thing as a free lunch. 00:03:53.806 --> 00:03:54.066 Yeah. 00:03:54.067 --> 00:03:55.294 Like, something always comes with it. 00:03:55.308 --> 00:03:55.342 Nope. 00:03:55.342 --> 00:03:56.843 That's attachments for sure. 00:03:56.979 --> 00:04:03.379 Anyways, I love that, I love that what you see is something that really improves people's self-confidence. 00:04:03.419 --> 00:04:03.633 Yes. 00:04:03.669 --> 00:04:06.074 Because I feel like that's so important, and I'm-- you know me. 00:04:06.087 --> 00:04:06.111 Yep. 00:04:06.127 --> 00:04:11.078 I'm very pro do whatever you wanna do to be happy within. 00:04:11.096 --> 00:04:12.174 Absol- me too. 00:04:12.174 --> 00:04:12.665 Me too. 00:04:12.665 --> 00:04:14.091 I think it's extremely important. 00:04:14.092 --> 00:04:14.176 Yeah. 00:04:14.176 --> 00:04:18.648 Um, I think to I think one of the-- I'll, I'll point this out. 00:04:18.648 --> 00:04:29.497 One of the, one of the things that I do notice is people waiting a little bit too long for those improvements, overthinking it or not doing it for themselves and waiting a little bit too late in life, and there's never too late in life. 00:04:29.497 --> 00:04:33.490 But I would say, like, if you wanna do something, get it done now., Do it now. 00:04:33.490 --> 00:04:34.797 Do it while it's on your mind. 00:04:35.156 --> 00:04:35.512 Yeah. 00:04:35.512 --> 00:04:37.146 Um, funded or not funded by somebody. 00:04:37.175 --> 00:04:37.425 Right. 00:04:37.425 --> 00:04:38.021 Right. 00:04:38.021 --> 00:04:38.596 Yeah. 00:04:38.596 --> 00:04:41.185 Willing to take all the strings. 00:04:41.185 --> 00:04:41.196 Yeah. 00:04:41.365 --> 00:04:43.588 Like, know your strings, I guess. 00:04:43.588 --> 00:04:43.737 Yeah, exactly. 00:04:43.762 --> 00:04:46.593 Whether you're, like, applying for CareCredit or something- 00:04:46.593 --> 00:04:46.822 Yeah, 00:04:46.822 --> 00:04:49.612 right or you're applying for a personal loan- 00:04:49.612 --> 00:04:49.622 Sure 00:04:49.622 --> 00:04:50.216 from someone. 00:04:50.216 --> 00:04:50.685 Just- 00:04:50.685 --> 00:04:51.382 Personal forever loan. 00:04:51.442 --> 00:04:52.377 Personal forever loan. 00:04:52.377 --> 00:04:55.701 Just make sure you know the strings to which you are now attached. 00:04:55.709 --> 00:04:56.220 Yes. 00:04:56.259 --> 00:04:56.706 There it is. 00:04:56.718 --> 00:04:57.295 Yes. 00:04:57.341 --> 00:04:57.560 But- 00:04:57.569 --> 00:04:58.019 Fair enough 00:04:58.019 --> 00:05:00.267 uh, but okay, so a little late in life. 00:05:00.267 --> 00:05:01.324 Never too late, you're right. 00:05:01.324 --> 00:05:01.742 But there is- 00:05:01.742 --> 00:05:02.533 Never too late, but- 00:05:02.533 --> 00:05:04.165 there is something called playing catch-up. 00:05:04.497 --> 00:05:04.829 Yeah. 00:05:05.016 --> 00:05:05.447 And that's- 00:05:05.447 --> 00:05:05.809 Little bit. 00:05:05.809 --> 00:05:06.069 Yep. 00:05:06.074 --> 00:05:06.305 Yeah. 00:05:06.567 --> 00:05:06.790 Yeah. 00:05:06.814 --> 00:05:10.730 So I learned that when-- So I got approved years ago. 00:05:10.730 --> 00:05:18.290 I've been doing Botox for migraines now for almost 10 years, and in order to get that approved, you have to fail a significant amount of drugs to get that. 00:05:18.290 --> 00:05:18.300 Yes. 00:05:18.658 --> 00:05:28.600 And so when I started doing it is when I then also started doing Botox, for cosmetic because they would need to fix a little bit of stuff, and I thought, "Well, at that point I'm already doing it for this. 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:42.516 Why not?" So almost 10 years ago, so like 33, and

I remember them saying, "You started too late." Like, "You should've started earlier," because I guess with the more with Botox, the more you do it, the more it kind of, you know- 00:05:42.516 --> 00:05:43.819 Paralyzes them over the years 00:05:43.824 --> 00:05:44.591 trains, trains the muscles. 00:05:44.648 --> 00:05:45.016 Yes. 00:05:45.029 --> 00:05:49.836 So that's something that I would say if you haven't started and you're in your mid-30s, maybe start. 00:05:49.836 --> 00:05:50.435 Like, don't- 00:05:50.608 --> 00:05:51.807 I started at 28. 00:05:51.846 --> 00:05:52.262 Okay. 00:05:52.300 --> 00:05:52.596 Yeah. 00:05:52.596 --> 00:05:54.369 And it used to be 10 units. 00:05:54.449 --> 00:05:55.151 Oh, wow. 00:05:55.204 --> 00:05:57.437 47 it's like 70 units., 00:05:57.577 --> 00:05:57.882 Yeah. 00:05:58.595 --> 00:05:59.432 That changed. 00:05:59.550 --> 00:06:00.249 It's a lot. 00:06:00.249 --> 00:06:00.826 It's a lot. 00:06:00.826 --> 00:06:06.687 That changes my-- I am lucky because I still have it approved for migraines, so I get a lot of that injected. 00:06:06.687 --> 00:06:07.382 There you go. 00:06:07.632 --> 00:06:08.971 And then typically my fixes, like 28. 00:06:08.971 --> 00:06:10.744 And good genetics, you don't age anyways. 00:06:10.744 --> 00:06:11.677 You look fabulous. 00:06:11.985 --> 00:06:12.639 I do age. 00:06:12.639 --> 00:06:12.877 Fabulous. 00:06:12.911 --> 00:06:13.658 I do age. 00:06:13.658 --> 00:06:15.245 We found a gray hair. 00:06:15.245 --> 00:06:15.255 Slightly. 00:06:15.622 --> 00:06:17.197 When was my first gray hair? 00:06:17.197 --> 00:06:18.377 Was like, my mom- Your 00:06:18.382 --> 00:06:19.555 first gray hair in your 40s? 00:06:19.565 --> 00:06:20.053 No. 00:06:20.057 --> 00:06:20.069 Oh. 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:23.706 My first gray hair was, like, maybe five years ago or something. 00:06:23.713 --> 00:06:23.762 Yeah. 00:06:23.762 --> 00:06:34.182 And we, my mom and I were in Sorrento, and she saw it and she made a huge deal of it to, like, pull it out in an alleyway as I was shopping and enjoying my life, okay? 00:06:34.182 --> 00:06:36.137 I was cloud nine. 00:06:36.146 --> 00:06:36.425 I love your mom. 00:06:36.425 --> 00:06:39.017 Limoncello samples, like all the snacks. 00:06:39.017 --> 00:06:39.928 Give me the booze. 00:06:39.928 --> 00:06:41.632 Give me the Italian-ness- 00:06:41.632 --> 00:06:41.642 Yes 00:06:41.675 --> 00:06:42.478 of everything. 00:06:42.478 --> 00:06:45.846 And she has to go pull this out of my head and, like, point it out. 00:06:45.846 --> 00:06:48.247 And then it wasn't just to me that she pointed it out. 00:06:48.247 --> 00:06:51.038 We got back to our town and she, like, points it out to all my friends. 00:06:51.038 --> 00:07:12.137 Fast-forward however many years, and now I think we just did my root touch-up 'cause she was like, "This is ridiculous." Like you, this is, do you, or she would make jokes with me like, "Are you just trying to go all gray at this point?" And

I'm like, "Dude, I've been stressed so much the past couple of months that to me it's also a timing issue." 00:07:12.137 --> 00:07:12.523 Yeah. 00:07:12.523 --> 00:07:14.302 So I don't care if it's gonna take an hour. 00:07:14.302 --> 00:07:14.668 Like to me- 00:07:14.668 --> 00:07:14.807 Yeah 00:07:14.807 --> 00:07:16.651 it's an hour that is calculated for something else. 00:07:17.148 --> 00:07:17.360 Right. 00:07:19.507 --> 00:07:20.389 Oh my God. 00:07:20.389 --> 00:07:20.988 Okay. 00:07:21.226 --> 00:07:21.483 Yeah. 00:07:21.499 --> 00:07:23.084 Let's talk about when you were a makeup artist. 00:07:23.084 --> 00:07:25.466 You did a lot of brides, right? 00:07:25.466 --> 00:07:26.088 Lots of brides. 00:07:26.088 --> 00:07:26.850 Lots of brides. 00:07:26.903 --> 00:07:30.701 Brides, photo shoots, headshots, real estate headshots. 00:07:30.757 --> 00:07:30.887 Yeah. 00:07:30.887 --> 00:07:31.286 Everything. 00:07:31.286 --> 00:07:31.860 All of it. 00:07:31.980 --> 00:07:32.642 All the things. 00:07:32.642 --> 00:07:33.291 All the things. 00:07:33.701 --> 00:07:39.151 Tell me your most favorite part about brides and your least favorite part about brides. 00:07:41.007 --> 00:07:46.211 Most favorite part about brides is how excited they were to get married. 00:07:46.211 --> 00:07:50.913 The least favorite part, maybe… 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:55.197 And maybe not least favorite. 00:07:55.197 --> 00:07:56.345 Maybe slight like entitlement. 00:07:56.499 --> 00:07:56.841 Okay. 00:07:56.841 --> 00:07:58.343 I was gonna say maybe not least favorite, but like 00:07:58.343 --> 00:07:59.192 the most difficult. 00:07:59.192 --> 00:08:02.569 There, okay, 'Cause there-- okay, there w- there were some, there were some fun ones and there were some interesting ones. 00:08:02.569 --> 00:08:09.298 The interesting ones were the ones that were spending like 40 to $100,000, just to possibly get divorced, but the wedding sounded super fun. 00:08:09.403 --> 00:08:09.701 Oh. 00:08:09.884 --> 00:08:10.505 For, I don't know. 00:08:10.505 --> 00:08:14.649 I mean, maybe for them, because the parents would be mortified in the end if six months later they got a divorce. 00:08:14.732 --> 00:08:14.954 Mm-hmm. 00:08:14.997 --> 00:08:18.581 But I had heard it multiple times, like, "Well, if it doesn't work out, we'll just get a divorce. 00:08:18.581 --> 00:08:22.454 No big deal." And I'm like, "Wow, your venue was 40 grand alone. 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:23.206 Yeah. 00:08:23.843 --> 00:08:28.322 And you're paying me a lot to be here right now to do your 13 bridesmaids' makeup. 00:08:28.331 --> 00:08:28.341 Wow. 00:08:28.555 --> 00:08:33.039 So I think mostly those types of things were very interesting to witness. 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:42.240 I mean, apart from maybe throwing fits, but I interviewed my clients, so it was very strategic in how we partnered together, and would we work well together. 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:52.024 So I was very, very picky, especially, I mean, in the beginning, not so much to build the business, but not even a year later, I, I definitely, interviewed my brides. 00:08:52.332 --> 00:09:02.292 I, I think that's a difficult thing and something that no matter what business you're in, I mean, I've talked to my good photographer friend who she now is in a position- 00:09:02.292 --> 00:09:02.302 Yes 00:09:02.302 --> 00:09:06.711 where she really has to vet out clients, because I think when you're in a service-based industry- 00:09:06.711 --> 00:09:07.077 Yes 00:09:07.077 --> 00:09:10.341 and let's talk about something as high stakes as a wedding. 00:09:10.613 --> 00:09:10.780 For 00:09:10.785 --> 00:09:10.796 sure. 00:09:10.796 --> 00:09:13.917 And just those are photos that you- 00:09:14.105 --> 00:09:14.470 Forever 00:09:14.470 --> 00:09:14.508 that's it. 00:09:14.508 --> 00:09:16.537 It's a one-shot deal though, right? 00:09:16.548 --> 00:09:16.558 Yes. 00:09:16.562 --> 00:09:18.638 You can't go redo them if there was a mess up. 00:09:18.643 --> 00:09:18.658 Yes. 00:09:18.868 --> 00:09:20.942 So makeup, that's a one-shot deal. 00:09:20.942 --> 00:09:22.889 Like if, if you're not happy, you're not happy. 00:09:22.889 --> 00:09:31.066 So yeah, these are a lesson to everyone who's in a service-based business like this, performing, you know, doing services for people. 00:09:31.066 --> 00:09:32.654 Please vet your clients because- 00:09:32.660 --> 00:09:36.327 For sure… Katiuscia: it, but it is hard all grind in the beginning. 00:09:36.327 --> 00:09:39.058 Well, when you're trying to build a business, but there's somebody for everybody. 00:09:39.107 --> 00:09:39.376 Yeah. 00:09:39.393 --> 00:09:39.759 Right? 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:42.571 And it was just a short amount of time where I started to go, "Uh-oh. 00:09:42.571 --> 00:09:44.328 Well, I don't have to take everybody. 00:09:44.328 --> 00:09:44.847 I don't ha- 00:09:44.847 --> 00:09:44.868 Right 00:09:44.868 --> 00:09:46.428 not everybody's my client." 00:09:46.453 --> 00:09:46.466 Right. 00:09:46.812 --> 00:09:48.113 And there's someone for everyone. 00:09:48.113 --> 00:09:52.288 I would say more so my brides were pretty amazing after I started doing that. 00:09:52.288 --> 00:10:00.738 It would be more so like a family member or like going back to the photos, a bride who said, "Only neutral lips," but the bridesmaid wanted black eyeliner and red lips. 00:10:00.738 --> 00:10:10.431 And when she got the pictures back, "Well, why did we have that?" Like, "Well, your bestie didn't wanna let up and do the nude lip, and she wanted heavy black eyeliner." Sorry. 00:10:10.644 --> 00:10:10.791 Yeah. 00:10:10.807 --> 00:10:11.870 I, I tried. 00:10:11.870 --> 00:10:13.317 I told her what was on the menu. 00:10:13.445 --> 00:10:13.721 Right. 00:10:13.727 --> 00:10:17.542 It wasn't black eyeliner and bright red lips for your pictures- 00:10:17.553 --> 00:10:20.684 But-… Jennifer: on your Oh, geez. 00:10:20.684 --> 00:10:21.562 Oh my gosh. 00:10:21.580 -->

00:10:22.061 Right? 00:10:22.118 --> 00:10:22.624 Harsh. 00:10:22.808 --> 00:10:22.961 Yeah. 00:10:22.961 --> 00:10:23.868 Okay, so that makes sense. 00:10:23.868 --> 00:10:24.039 Yes. 00:10:24.044 --> 00:10:34.533 Like, I, I think the way I would look at a wedding is, uh, I mean, obviously I have very different views on marriage in the sense of if I'm, you know, when I get married, I'd like to, I'd like it to be forever, right? 00:10:34.578 --> 00:10:34.826 Yes. 00:10:34.846 --> 00:10:37.181 I don't wanna go into it with the planning of- 00:10:37.349 --> 00:10:40.264 Yeah, this might not be forever, but- That's- I'm gonna get a cool party for now. 00:10:40.296 --> 00:10:41.432 No, that's wild. 00:10:41.432 --> 00:10:46.296 Like, d- and, and then I'm also big pro, like, take the money that you were gonna spend on that party and go- 00:10:46.296 --> 00:10:47.176 Uh, buy a second home? 00:10:47.203 --> 00:10:47.772 Buy a second home. 00:10:47.772 --> 00:10:47.974 Yeah. 00:10:47.990 --> 00:10:49.166 Go on a bitchin' vacation. 00:10:49.171 --> 00:10:50.051 Yeah, absolutely. 00:10:50.061 --> 00:10:52.251 Um, do something to last more than a day. 00:10:52.254 --> 00:10:52.793 Yes. 00:10:52.821 --> 00:10:55.477 And just for photos that are also gonna cost you a lot of money, so- 00:10:55.477 --> 00:10:55.984 All of it is 00:10:55.984 --> 00:10:56.563 to me, it's like- 00:10:56.783 --> 00:11:02.330 Yeah… Katiuscia: the whole thing, purposeful and intentional- about everything. 00:11:02.330 --> 00:11:10.917 But yeah, I would imagine that would weigh so heavily, especially hearing it more than once of the entitlement and just- Yes 00:11:10.922 --> 00:11:13.458 yeah, this again, I don't know. 00:11:13.458 --> 00:11:19.642 There's such a value and a seriousness it's a lot of heaviness to, or not, not heaviness. 00:11:19.642 --> 00:11:21.879 There's a lot of weight that goes into- 00:11:21.923 --> 00:11:22.187 Yes 00:11:22.192 --> 00:11:22.943 marriage. 00:11:22.962 --> 00:11:23.190 Yes. 00:11:23.190 --> 00:11:27.379 And I just can't imagine listening to that and then you're, like, having to do the things. 00:11:27.379 --> 00:11:29.596 Well, and, and for me, I, I pray over my brides. 00:11:29.596 --> 00:11:30.607 I prayed over them. 00:11:30.607 --> 00:11:39.635 I would sit and have prayer with them before we got started if that's, if they were comfortable with that, because I, I d- I do wanna be part of something, and I did that was gonna be forever, and it was special. 00:11:39.635 --> 00:11:46.703 And I would say more so, uh that behavior came about the last year that I was in business, and I decided, "You know what? 00:11:46.703 --> 00:11:47.827 I'm gonna retire myself. 00:11:47.827 --> 00:11:49.181 I've been doing this long enough. 00:11:49.181 --> 00:11:57.259 Um, I have great skills, but I think it's best, for the medical industry." So I'm gonna take my experience, my corporate experience, and- 00:11:57.296 --> 00:11:57.480 Yeah 00:11:57.480 --> 00:12:01.322 my compassion and my empathy that I had doing that. 00:12:01.322 --> 00:12:03.195 And I was- always loved makeup, right? 00:12:03.195 --> 00:12:09.150 But just that people-pleasing, it was meant to be transitioned into something different, and I'm really glad that I made that leap. 00:12:09.150 --> 00:12:10.745 Changed, changed my life. 00:12:11.182 --> 00:12:11.192 Good.. 00:12:11.293 --> 00:12:12.754 Money structure a little bit, too. 00:12:12.760 --> 00:12:12.791 Yeah. 00:12:12.792 --> 00:12:21.322 But it was all worth it in the end to do something where I felt that my, that my love and my empathy and kindness was going towards medical-type things- 00:12:21.322 --> 00:12:21.432 Right 00:12:21.432 --> 00:12:25.371 where I could give my love in that industry versus this kind of people-pleasing. 00:12:25.371 --> 00:12:27.062 And where, clients changed over the years. 00:12:27.277 --> 00:12:27.465 Yeah. 00:12:27.467 --> 00:12:28.052 They really did. 00:12:28.052 --> 00:12:31.820 I would say probably, I say a year, but I wanna tell you it was probably, like, the last two years that I did that. 00:12:31.820 --> 00:12:36.345 Just isn't for me anymore," and- 00:12:36.442 --> 00:12:36.745 Yeah 00:12:36.974 --> 00:12:41.472 you know, as, as lucrative as it is, it's a definitely lucrative business, but you're definitely a slave in it. 00:12:41.472 --> 00:12:43.248 You know, if I can use the slave word. 00:12:43.248 --> 00:12:44.256 Sorry, but that's how it felt. 00:12:44.591 --> 00:12:45.535 You can use the slave word. 00:12:45.554 --> 00:12:46.979 Working seven days a week. 00:12:47.014 --> 00:12:47.559 Yeah. 00:12:47.559 --> 00:12:48.759 Well- Day and night, day and night- 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:48.769 Yeah 00:12:48.769 --> 00:12:52.816 because you're, you know, seeing clients throughout the week, seeing, you know, doing your events on the weekends, but- 00:12:52.822 --> 00:12:52.980 Mm-hmm 00:12:52.980 --> 00:12:56.745 doing headshots and different ev- you know, other types of services throughout the week. 00:12:56.745 --> 00:12:57.073 That's a grind. 00:12:57.073 --> 00:12:57.860 Whatever that would be. 00:12:57.860 --> 00:13:01.259 So it was, it was a lot, and it was fun, and a lot of traveling. 00:13:01.364 --> 00:13:01.860 Yeah. 00:13:01.885 --> 00:13:04.056 So I would have my way paid to cool places, and- 00:13:04.056 --> 00:13:04.639 That's cool. 00:13:04.644 --> 00:13:04.993 Yeah. 00:13:04.993 --> 00:13:05.610 So- 00:13:05.864 --> 00:13:08.511 That's really cool… Jennifer: it it was nice Yeah. 00:13:08.511 --> 00:13:08.657 I think- think- 00:13:08.657 --> 00:13:09.629 And I, and I don't miss it. 00:13:09.831 --> 00:13:12.014 Every chapter comes to a close, right? 00:13:12.014 --> 00:13:12.123 Like- 00:13:12.125 --> 00:13:12.594 Absolutely 00:13:12.749 --> 00:13:14.839 when it comes to work and life- 00:13:14.839 --> 00:13:14.849 Yes 00:13:14.849 --> 00:13:16.690 and anything, friendships, relationships. 00:13:16.690 -->

00:13:17.341 Some things- 00:13:17.347 --> 00:13:17.421 For 00:13:17.423 --> 00:13:19.820 sure … come to a close, like all good things. 00:13:19.820 --> 00:13:22.048 There was a song that Nelly Furtado had. 00:13:22.048 --> 00:13:25.841 All good to to an end or something? 00:13:26.089 --> 00:13:27.120 I have another song I'm playing. 00:13:27.159 --> 00:13:29.759 Why do, why do all good things come to an end? 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:31.666 Well, I feel like chapters like that- 00:13:31.666 --> 00:13:31.677 Yes 00:13:31.677 --> 00:13:34.296 that also take a lot out of you, and it's either- 00:13:34.301 --> 00:13:34.311 Yes 00:13:34.311 --> 00:13:36.754 that they come to a close or that they shift. 00:13:36.754 --> 00:13:44.840 And I realize that in my own business with, not that the chapter is coming to a close, but the chapter, the life chapter shifts because- 00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:45.138 For sure 00:13:45.195 --> 00:13:46.820 certain things happen where you're like, "Hmm." 00:13:47.655 --> 00:13:48.332 Reevaluation time. 00:13:48.336 --> 00:13:49.557 No me gusta, right? 00:13:49.557 --> 00:13:49.620 Yeah. 00:13:49.644 --> 00:13:50.441 No me gusta this. 00:13:50.445 --> 00:13:50.803 Yes. 00:13:50.836 --> 00:13:58.548 So you just have to kind of pivot and in the way you do business or the way you, you I guess, handle whatever's thrown at you, and life's just different. 00:13:58.548 --> 00:14:04.291 But I love that you're now… Uh, I would, I would also think, like, where you are- 00:14:04.423 --> 00:14:04.452 I love it 00:14:04.586 --> 00:14:20.871 and what you do, when it comes from a place of also feeling valued in all of your gifts and abilities and talents all of your expertise, there is value there also, and that's, that's very different than being in a people-pleasing business- 00:14:20.900 --> 00:14:20.910 Yes 00:14:20.910 --> 00:14:26.076 where getting… I mean, you're, you're literally, it's a people-pleasing business. 00:14:26.078 --> 00:14:26.089 Yeah. 00:14:26.089 --> 00:14:26.953 So if they're not happy- 00:14:26.956 --> 00:14:27.322 100% 00:14:27.330 --> 00:14:29.298 you're 100% going to hear about it, too. 00:14:29.316 --> 00:14:29.918 Absolutely. 00:14:30.629 --> 00:14:36.014 and there's no like, "Okay, let me fix it," because again, one day, one shot, done. 00:14:37.076 --> 00:14:37.259 Yeah. 00:14:37.259 --> 00:14:37.566 All right. 00:14:38.158 --> 00:14:40.416 But it's fun to transition into plastics. 00:14:40.568 --> 00:14:40.634 Yeah. 00:14:40.634 --> 00:14:41.413 And I love it. 00:14:41.716 --> 00:14:42.326 That's good. 00:14:42.326 --> 00:14:42.436 I 00:14:42.441 --> 00:14:42.802 love it. 00:14:42.905 --> 00:14:44.592 I love all- It's- And I love it. 00:14:44.592 --> 00:14:59.347 I love… I'm, again, very for… So hold on, because while we're very for people doing whatever they want to be happy- Don't you find that people… Let's say they've had a lot of life changes, right? 00:14:59.347 --> 00:15:02.792 Either lost a lot of weight, had surgery, whatever it is. 00:15:02.792 --> 00:15:11.830 Do you ever see… I guess, is it more common than not that people will still see themselves as who they were versus who they are now- 00:15:11.854 --> 00:15:12.162 Absolutely 00:15:12.162 --> 00:15:12.909 after all the work done? 00:15:13.092 --> 00:15:13.999 Absolutely. 00:15:13.999 --> 00:15:15.057 Oh, for sure. 00:15:15.057 --> 00:15:15.730 Yes. 00:15:15.743 --> 00:15:23.769 So how do you deal with that in terms of you being the one who's offering all this love and support, and even just the g- the office in general and the, and the- 00:15:23.769 --> 00:15:23.908 Yeah 00:15:23.908 --> 00:15:24.979 doctors and the providers. 00:15:24.979 --> 00:15:26.115 Isn't that hard? 00:15:26.128 --> 00:15:27.875 It, it's a collaborative effort for sure. 00:15:27.890 --> 00:15:27.926 Okay.. 00:15:27.926 --> 00:15:34.384 It is definitely a collaborative effort of the entire practice, but I think the beauty of being up front and seeing them when they first come in, right? 00:15:34.384 --> 00:15:37.448 That, that, that first human being that you meet when they come in, right? 00:15:37.448 --> 00:15:39.461 Maybe they've been broken down throughout the years. 00:15:39.461 --> 00:15:40.354 They've gotten to their goal. 00:15:40.354 --> 00:15:41.500 They're where they need to be at. 00:15:41.500 --> 00:15:42.702 They have surgery. 00:15:42.702 --> 00:15:43.533 They come back. 00:15:43.533 --> 00:15:44.705 They struggle with it. 00:15:44.705 --> 00:15:50.240 Even though they're looking amazing and you're like, "My God, I… That's, like, incredible. What a, what a turnaround." 00:15:50.245 --> 00:15:50.268 Yeah. 00:15:50.275 --> 00:15:51.708 "What a, what a transition," right? 00:15:51.708 --> 00:15:53.351 And they're not that happy about it. 00:15:53.351 --> 00:16:06.884 So it's like you're more excited than they are, and then you slowly see maybe that, you know, two weeks or a month later, you see that person that you were hoping to see, when they came in for that appointment, which is a completely different person than, than who you met when they first came in. 00:16:06.884 --> 00:16:09.231 And these are more, like, bigger cases, I would say. 00:16:09.231 --> 00:16:09.241 Sure. 00:16:09.404 --> 00:16:10.894 Like body, face cases- 00:16:11.155 --> 00:16:11.206 Mm-hmm 00:16:11.206 --> 00:16:12.124 things like h- that. 00:16:12.124 --> 00:16:19.381 But also that confidence, um, for them to see who they are now and today takes a while to soak in. 00:16:19.381 --> 00:16:20.058 It really does. 00:16:20.058 --> 00:16:32.841 There's a few of them, they're like, you know, "This is great. Oh my gosh, I see all the change." And then there's some that it takes a little longer because they had been that version of themselves for so long that seeing that new version is really hard to wrap their minds around. 00:16:32.903 --> 00:16:33.203 Sure. 00:16:33.225 --> 00:16:37.875 But it really is, um, I feel really

special to be part of all of that, like honored. 00:16:37.875 --> 00:16:42.423 I mean, it's not my practice, but, you know, it's my front lobby. 00:16:42.437 --> 00:16:42.780 Yeah. 00:16:42.836 --> 00:16:46.642 But I just really love being part of, being part of their story, you know, if you will- 00:16:46.642 --> 00:16:46.918 Yeah 00:16:46.918 --> 00:16:50.591 with showing empathy or kindness, whatever that would mean to them, you know? 00:16:50.591 --> 00:16:51.856 And if they remembered me, great. 00:16:51.856 --> 00:16:54.482 If they forgot, um, I'll never forget them, right? 00:16:54.482 --> 00:16:54.660 Yeah. 00:16:54.663 --> 00:17:00.745 But I loved being on that journey and watching somebody grow and loving themselves more than they did before. 00:17:00.745 --> 00:17:01.785 So that would- 00:17:01.785 --> 00:17:03.765 What a cool position to be in also- 00:17:03.768 --> 00:17:03.812 I love it,. 00:17:03.812 --> 00:17:03.851 I do 00:17:03.851 --> 00:17:05.165 to be able to see it. 00:17:05.314 --> 00:17:05.573 Yeah. 00:17:05.574 --> 00:17:07.403 To see the transition and then to see- 00:17:07.403 --> 00:17:07.943 Yes 00:17:08.018 --> 00:17:10.951 these people really so confident with themselves. 00:17:10.951 --> 00:17:18.292 And I'm, I would think that it kind of, even to you, like would pain you when they don't see it themselves, but- 00:17:18.292 --> 00:17:18.580 Yes 00:17:18.580 --> 00:17:20.810 it is really hard for us, right? 00:17:20.823 --> 00:17:21.733 Yes, of course. 00:17:21.733 --> 00:17:28.678 It's, it's hard when we go through any life change, especially if we've looked or been one way our entire life or majority of our life. 00:17:28.678 --> 00:17:29.019 I mean- 00:17:29.028 --> 00:17:29.550 Yes 00:17:29.574 --> 00:17:31.905 tell me about growing up for you. 00:17:31.905 --> 00:17:36.511 Like, you're, you're very pro-confidence, self-confidence and self-love, and I love that. 00:17:36.511 --> 00:17:51.036 And that's something that f- I mean, honestly, like I struggle sometimes with giving myself the grace and the just acknowledgement of how far I've come, and I think it's just because I got sick at 13. 00:17:51.036 --> 00:17:53.881 I was on max high dose prednisone immediately. 00:17:53.881 --> 00:17:53.942 Yeah. 00:17:53.942 --> 00:17:55.582 I gained like 50 pounds in a month. 00:17:55.582 --> 00:17:58.246 It was so hard being a teenager- 00:17:58.412 --> 00:17:58.612 Yeah 00:17:58.612 --> 00:18:01.532 and dealing with that, and then dealing with what came with that. 00:18:01.532 --> 00:18:12.507 So it was very hard for to… Like I, like I always say, I, I can walk in a room and I mean, I, again, natural introvert. 00:18:12.507 --> 00:18:15.208 I really just wanna be home watching "Game of Thrones." Like in a 00:18:15.358 --> 00:18:16.942 And it's so hard to see you that way for me. 00:18:16.951 --> 00:18:17.732 It's, but I'm like- 00:18:17.736 --> 00:18:18.922 It's so hard to see you that way 00:18:18.952 --> 00:18:20.086 very ambiverted, right? 00:18:20.086 --> 00:18:22.925 Like I'm very extroverted for everything I have, I have to be. 00:18:23.087 --> 00:18:23.244 Yes. 00:18:23.253 --> 00:18:25.391 So but where's my safe space? 00:18:25.391 --> 00:18:26.010 It's at home. 00:18:26.010 --> 00:18:27.579 It's at home like tucked in- 00:18:27.579 --> 00:18:27.852 Yes 00:18:27.852 --> 00:18:28.928 with my dogs who- 00:18:28.930 --> 00:18:29.490 With the pups. 00:18:29.544 --> 00:18:29.876 Yeah. 00:18:29.876 --> 00:18:32.314 Who give me the world's best celebration- 00:18:32.318 --> 00:18:32.352 Yes 00:18:32.356 --> 00:18:33.722 every time I walk into a room. 00:18:33.813 --> 00:18:34.107 Yes. 00:18:34.130 --> 00:18:36.300 So there's my boost of confidence. 00:18:36.300 --> 00:18:37.193 It's from my dogs. 00:18:37.193 --> 00:18:48.839 But I can walk into… Like I have, I still have struggle at almost 43 walking in to meet someone at a bar for a meeting, 'cause I'll be like, "Are you gonna be like at the bar top? 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:49.492 Are you gonna be at the- 00:18:49.517 --> 00:18:49.728 Yeah 00:18:49.734 --> 00:18:51.438 lobby?" Like I don't like it. 00:18:51.438 --> 00:18:52.779 It gives me kind of anxiety. 00:18:52.779 --> 00:18:53.078 Yeah. 00:18:53.111 --> 00:19:00.710 So I've just, I've never been the most confident person to walk into a room, and that's fine, but at least I can carry it off and- 00:19:00.758 --> 00:19:01.016 Yes 00:19:01.016 --> 00:19:02.230 fake it literally. 00:19:02.230 --> 00:19:02.785 I, I do. 00:19:03.092 --> 00:19:03.490 Yeah. 00:19:03.498 --> 00:19:04.365 I do, I do. 00:19:04.429 --> 00:19:05.117 We have to. 00:19:05.117 --> 00:19:05.923 Growing up- 00:19:05.923 --> 00:19:06.530 Definitely do 00:19:06.580 --> 00:19:16.759 like do you, do you find that your appreciation for, and understanding maybe of self-love and the importance of being confident, did that come in your adult years? 00:19:16.884 --> 00:19:17.465 Oh, for sure. 00:19:17.488 --> 00:19:17.718 Yeah. 00:19:17.894 --> 00:19:23.130 I, I mean, I think I, I, you know, you know, my rebirthing and different versions of yourself, right? 00:19:23.130 --> 00:19:23.144 Yeah. 00:19:23.144 --> 00:19:28.155 I mean, I, you know, was bullied in school, however you wanna put that, made fun of, but that was the '90s. 00:19:28.155 --> 00:19:28.942 That's what they did. 00:19:28.942 --> 00:19:30.333 You know, it just was what it was. 00:19:30.333 --> 00:19:39.778 But I always, I had a very confident mother and a very confident father- And I think that really helped to empower me, and God has always put really strong women in my life as well. 00:19:40.086 --> 00:19:40.140 Nice. 00:19:40.153 --> 00:19:46.958 So no matter what area I went in, there was always some boss lady, that was there to somehow guide me. 00:19:46.958 --> 00:19:49.606 Um, and I've, I've never been short of that. 00:19:49.606 --> 00:19:55.614 So I just think them seeing that confidence in me at a very young age… I mean,

I started in retail cosmetics in my early 20s. 00:19:55.614 --> 00:19:56.823 I was 22 when I started. 00:19:57.196 --> 00:19:57.223 Mm-hmm. 00:19:57.223 --> 00:20:02.763 And these women were in their 30s, and they w- they just saw something in me, took me under their wing, trained me. 00:20:02.763 --> 00:20:07.582 So I think if I never had that, I probably would be a little bit different today. 00:20:07.582 --> 00:20:12.460 But I had women that saw the, uh, I don't know, the beast in me, whatever you wanna put- 00:20:12.468 --> 00:20:13.105 What a blessing 00:20:13.115 --> 00:20:14.000 the confidence. 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:15.005 Absolutely. 00:20:15.048 --> 00:20:15.546 What a blessing. 00:20:15.705 --> 00:20:16.449 I'll never forget their names. 00:20:16.449 --> 00:20:17.719 Tracy Davis. 00:20:17.789 --> 00:20:18.613 Aw. 00:20:19.446 --> 00:20:20.250 That's one of 'em. 00:20:20.250 --> 00:20:20.931 I love that you know that. 00:20:20.981 --> 00:20:21.397 Oh, yeah. 00:20:21.397 --> 00:20:22.324 Barbara Sheehan. 00:20:22.324 --> 00:20:28.712 I can name a lot of really strong women throughout the years that mentored me to see myself the way they saw me. 00:20:28.712 --> 00:20:32.211 I would've never seen that version of me without them pointing it out, so… 00:20:32.652 --> 00:20:34.353 And I think we all need that in life. 00:20:34.525 --> 00:20:34.546 We do. 00:20:34.548 --> 00:20:37.213 I think we all need that supporter, that ride or die- 00:20:37.222 --> 00:20:37.736 Yes 00:20:37.778 --> 00:20:38.722 that uplifts. 00:20:38.722 --> 00:20:44.151 And that's the thing about… I mean, amazing that you had that in your early 20s from women- 00:20:44.151 --> 00:20:44.390 Yes 00:20:44.391 --> 00:20:44.873 that were older. 00:20:44.873 --> 00:20:50.334 I find that now, even women my age, around, you know, same age as me- 00:20:50.397 --> 00:21:00.167 Yeah… Katiuscia: to be able to just think the past, gosh, I don't know how many years it's been, where there is such a tear down of women to women. 00:21:00.167 --> 00:21:00.661 Yes. 00:21:00.661 --> 00:21:02.019 Just a hate on women to women. 00:21:02.019 --> 00:21:02.355 Yes. 00:21:02.355 --> 00:21:03.481 And it's like, what? 00:21:03.481 --> 00:21:07.457 I don't underst- I guess I'll never understand it, to be honest. 00:21:07.457 --> 00:21:16.190 It, it just makes no sense to me to, to, to look at someone else, and there's a total thing about, like envying someone for something they have. 00:21:16.190 --> 00:21:16.886 Like great car- 00:21:16.886 --> 00:21:16.896 Sure 00:21:16.896 --> 00:21:17.403 great this. 00:21:17.450 --> 00:21:17.916 Yes. 00:21:18.363 --> 00:21:28.116 Jealousy is a concept that's really hard for me to understand, and I think it's because getting sick so young, I lived a very different life than other people- 00:21:28.116 --> 00:21:28.167 Yes 00:21:28.167 --> 00:21:35.413 and never really had the opportunity to have, like, those asshole, uh, high school years or- 00:21:35.419 --> 00:21:36.184 Oh, I love that for you. 00:21:36.229 --> 00:21:39.213 Yeah, or deal, or deal with, like the drama. 00:21:39.213 --> 00:21:40.457 I guess it gave me more character. 00:21:40.491 --> 00:21:41.114 Yeah, right? 00:21:41.114 --> 00:21:43.355 The, the drama, I never got- 00:21:43.355 --> 00:21:43.365 Yes 00:21:43.365 --> 00:21:45.459 involved with the drama 'cause my- 00:21:45.459 --> 00:21:45.643 Yeah 00:21:45.643 --> 00:21:50.664 my struggle and my, like fight was literally my health and staying alive 'cause I was real sick. 00:21:50.664 --> 00:21:51.634 I'm glad you didn't have to deal with any of that. 00:21:51.769 --> 00:21:52.397 I'm glad too. 00:21:52.397 --> 00:21:54.207 That would've been painful and awful for you. 00:21:54.221 --> 00:21:54.651 Yeah. 00:21:54.651 --> 00:21:54.661 Yeah. 00:21:55.290 --> 00:21:55.813 Awful. 00:21:55.999 --> 00:21:56.531 I think so. 00:21:56.536 --> 00:21:56.546 Yeah. 00:21:56.547 --> 00:21:58.042 I mean, I dealt with some of it, you know I mean? 00:21:58.042 --> 00:21:58.394 Sure. 00:21:58.428 --> 00:21:59.256 But, like- 00:21:59.256 --> 00:21:59.266 But 00:21:59.555 --> 00:22:02.184 but I was able to at least put it, keep it at bay. 00:22:02.184 --> 00:22:13.920 But I think in life, with women especially, women friends, women coworkers, colleagues, I just want everyone to, like, thrive in the way that they have to thrive- 00:22:13.923 --> 00:22:13.951 Yes 00:22:14.151 --> 00:22:14.926 and just kill it. 00:22:15.028 --> 00:22:16.891 And not compete and empower each other. 00:22:17.031 --> 00:22:17.057 Just- 00:22:17.057 --> 00:22:19.426 Regardless of the age, younger, young or older. 00:22:19.462 --> 00:22:20.137 Yeah. 00:22:20.137 --> 00:22:23.384 I would- And I, I think it's really… It's, it's hard. 00:22:23.384 --> 00:22:24.759 Not hard for me. 00:22:24.759 --> 00:22:27.061 It's hard for, in general- 00:22:27.061 --> 00:22:34.792 Well… Katiuscia: and I'm not saying towards me, I'm just saying in general, I see it, and I'm like And I think the way some women were raised maybe, right? 00:22:34.792 --> 00:22:38.045 Maybe they had an insecure mother that bled that onto them- 00:22:38.069 --> 00:22:38.363 Okay 00:22:38.363 --> 00:22:43.194 um, and didn't give them that quite, you know, an opportunity to be an empowered woman as they grew up. 00:22:43.194 --> 00:22:48.625 Or they I, I, that could be the only thing that I would ever wrap my mind around. 00:22:48.634 --> 00:22:49.010 Yeah. 00:22:49.092 --> 00:23:02.258 I just feel like I was even, before I left work, talking with Amber and, um, just we were talking about empowering each other and, and how, um, it's easy to say kind things, and you really, really gotta think hard to tear somebody down, right? 00:23:02.259 --> 00:23:02.508 Yeah. 00:23:02.663 --> 00:23:09.846 Unless you're so quick-witted on something you may think you know about them to tear them down, but otherwise, why not be good to other women? 00:23:09.846 --> 00:23:11.137 Why not

empower each other? 00:23:11.137 --> 00:23:12.517 Say kind things. 00:23:12.517 --> 00:23:28.067 You know, I had a really great job in my early 20s that women with degrees should have had, but it's the way that I handled things, how I worked it, my communication, and was given high titles at a pretty young age and not really supported by the older women or other women in the department. 00:23:28.067 --> 00:23:31.173 It was kind of like, you know, they were jealous they didn't- 00:23:31.209 --> 00:23:31.229 Sure 00:23:31.229 --> 00:23:34.116 get that position, but I worked hard enough to get it. 00:23:34.175 --> 00:23:34.512 Yeah. 00:23:35.182 --> 00:23:39.547 So, I never wanna be that kind of woman to any other women, woman, you know? 00:23:39.750 --> 00:23:39.955 Yeah. 00:23:39.963 --> 00:23:43.471 She's in her 20s, I wanna empower her to say, "Hey, you're great. 00:23:43.471 --> 00:23:43.471 You're doing a great job." 00:23:43.574 --> 00:23:43.757 Mm-hmm. 00:23:43.765 --> 00:23:47.382 "Let's keep," you know, "let's keep molding you into this awesome boss babe." 00:23:47.509 --> 00:23:47.660 Yeah. 00:23:47.663 --> 00:23:54.512 You know, whether I never see you again or I continue working with you, I'd rather empower everybody around me than find something wrong with them. 00:23:54.584 --> 00:23:54.950 Right. 00:23:54.960 --> 00:24:00.169 It's like, how can we correct it and make it better, or help you with your personality to make you a better woman to other women? 00:24:00.169 --> 00:24:00.967 So- 00:24:00.970 --> 00:24:04.971 And you probably are like that, number one, because of, that's your personality anyway. 00:24:05.006 --> 00:24:05.077 Totally, yes. 00:24:05.077 --> 00:24:05.779 So you give a lot of love. 00:24:05.782 --> 00:24:06.213 Yes. 00:24:06.531 --> 00:24:10.828 But you also had support and love from other women. 00:24:10.829 --> 00:24:10.856 Yes. 00:24:10.857 --> 00:24:14.670 So it was kind of, you know, I think what you put out in life is what you get back. 00:24:14.670 --> 00:24:14.680 Yes. 00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:20.345 And that's just if you come from a, a beautiful, loving, abundant, positive mindset- 00:24:20.376 --> 00:24:29.924 Yes… Katiuscia: it's going to do from a place of negativity, and all of the other things, where it's just like the scarcity, the negativity- Yeah 00:24:29.932 --> 00:24:32.880 all of the things, and then, well, the whys, right? 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:33.656 The second you start- 00:24:33.656 --> 00:24:33.671 Yeah 00:24:33.671 --> 00:24:38.194 questioning why something happens for someone else but doesn't happen for you is the second you've already lost. 00:24:38.263 --> 00:24:39.195 Absolutely. 00:24:39.195 --> 00:24:41.493 Because we can only control what we can control. 00:24:41.726 --> 00:24:41.939 Yep. 00:24:41.951 --> 00:24:45.728 But I can't control why someone else got something and I didn't get it if I was up for something. 00:24:45.737 --> 00:24:45.760 Yes. 00:24:45.770 --> 00:24:46.101 Right? 00:24:46.101 --> 00:24:46.536 That's- 00:24:46.544 --> 00:24:46.718 Yes 00:24:46.765 --> 00:24:47.770 unfortunately, it just- 00:24:47.770 --> 00:24:48.907 Wasn't your time… Katiuscia: wasn't my time. 00:24:48.907 --> 00:24:49.224 Nope. 00:24:49.292 --> 00:24:49.824 Jinx. 00:24:49.930 --> 00:24:50.226 Yep. 00:24:50.263 --> 00:24:50.900 You owe me a Coke. 00:24:50.900 --> 00:24:59.223 It wasn't, it wasn't my time, and that's fine, and I just… It makes me sad that I see it so much of just- 00:24:59.928 --> 00:24:59.945 Yeah 00:24:59.945 --> 00:25:14.386 not supportive and not wanting your, especially friends, like that never makes I see people who are like, "Yeah, my friends don't support this my friend, I'm are are they really your friend then?" I mean, is it- 00:25:14.973 --> 00:25:15.159 Yeah. 00:25:15.159 --> 00:25:15.169 Yikes. 00:25:15.169 --> 00:25:18.532 It's a wild, uh, it's a wild thing, but unfortunately- 00:25:18.532 --> 00:25:18.542 Yeah 00:25:18.542 --> 00:25:19.993 that's just the reality we live in. 00:25:20.115 --> 00:25:21.796 I don't think I could keep friends like that. 00:25:21.815 --> 00:25:22.369 Well, well yeah. 00:25:22.369 --> 00:25:23.713 How do you… Is that really- 00:25:23.713 --> 00:25:23.835 That was fun. 00:25:23.835 --> 00:25:25.359 Is that, like is that really a friend? 00:25:25.372 --> 00:25:25.616 No. 00:25:25.616 --> 00:25:26.258 That's the whole thing. 00:25:26.258 --> 00:25:27.025 100% not. 00:25:27.025 --> 00:25:27.508 Yeah. 00:25:27.528 --> 00:25:27.873 Yeah. 00:25:27.951 --> 00:25:28.308 Sorry. 00:25:28.308 --> 00:25:30.034 Newsflash, every lady out there. 00:25:30.777 --> 00:25:31.028 Yeah. 00:25:31.028 --> 00:25:31.038 Yeah. 00:25:31.038 --> 00:25:31.777 Not a friends. 00:25:31.832 --> 00:25:33.075 A true friend supports you. 00:25:33.131 --> 00:25:33.393 Yeah. 00:25:33.393 --> 00:25:34.122 In everything. 00:25:34.127 --> 00:25:34.290 Yes. 00:25:34.300 --> 00:25:35.657 Because you just want to see- 00:25:35.657 --> 00:25:36.752 And is always on your team. 00:25:36.791 --> 00:25:37.078 Yeah. 00:25:37.088 --> 00:25:38.871 Unless you're so wrong they have to call you out. 00:25:39.037 --> 00:25:39.317 Yeah. 00:25:39.317 --> 00:25:40.299 Which is also a great friend. 00:25:40.299 --> 00:25:40.309 And 00:25:40.309 --> 00:25:40.944 And thank you for that. 00:25:40.944 --> 00:25:41.251 Yes. 00:25:41.280 --> 00:25:41.667 Yes. 00:25:41.667 --> 00:25:43.018 Yeah, we love those friends. 00:25:43.018 --> 00:25:43.028 Yes. 00:25:43.028 --> 00:25:44.203 We love the friends who can call you out- 00:25:44.203 --> 00:25:45.708 Please call me out if I need it Yeah. 00:25:45.923 --> 00:25:48.272 But also the ones who just want you to thrive. 00:25:48.291 --> 00:25:48.880 Yes. 00:25:48.880 --> 00:26:00.583 So I've been very fortunate that I've met colleagues in my industry across the country that are… It's just this tribe of women who are phenomenal. 00:26:00.583 --> 00:26:01.661 Like, I can't even- 00:26:01.667 -->

00:26:02.031 I love that 00:26:02.031 --> 00:26:08.720 the empowerment and how they uplift and just always support and want you to, like, wanna constantly lift you. 00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:10.739 There's nothing like it. 00:26:10.739 --> 00:26:11.161 There's- 00:26:11.163 --> 00:26:11.359 Yeah 00:26:11.405 --> 00:26:13.548 because you don't get that in every industry- 00:26:13.548 --> 00:26:13.557 Yeah 00:26:13.557 --> 00:26:15.038 especially competitive industries. 00:26:15.038 --> 00:26:15.729 Oh, for sure. 00:26:15.809 --> 00:26:20.260 Like, so it's nice to have that, and I'm very grateful for, for those moments. 00:26:20.260 --> 00:26:21.679 'Cause everybody can win at some point. 00:26:21.679 --> 00:26:23.284 Again, there's somebody for everybody. 00:26:23.363 --> 00:26:23.776 Yeah. 00:26:23.865 --> 00:26:24.313 Right? 00:26:24.496 --> 00:26:24.919 Yeah. 00:26:25.073 --> 00:26:25.483 Yes. 00:26:25.512 --> 00:26:28.518 It goes back to the not everyone is supposed to like you, and that's okay. 00:26:28.525 --> 00:26:29.044 Yes. 00:26:29.321 --> 00:26:29.481 Your people- 00:26:29.481 --> 00:26:30.461 The let them theory. 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:31.060 The let… Yeah. 00:26:31.060 --> 00:26:31.548 Yeah. 00:26:31.548 --> 00:26:33.047 Your people will find you. 00:26:33.059 --> 00:26:33.299 Yes. 00:26:33.334 --> 00:26:34.153 You know what I mean? 00:26:34.170 --> 00:26:34.457 Yep. 00:26:34.457 --> 00:26:36.163 So I think that that's, that's huge. 00:26:36.163 --> 00:26:38.583 Now, you have a daughter in high school. 00:26:38.598 --> 00:26:38.876 Yes. 00:26:38.895 --> 00:26:48.434 I do wanna ask, in terms of high school, what you're hearing from her, how is the… Like, is there a ton of bullying still? 00:26:48.434 --> 00:26:49.220 What's the- 00:26:49.220 --> 00:26:49.230 Yeah. 00:26:49.262 --> 00:26:49.472 Yeah. 00:26:49.472 --> 00:26:49.814 Yes. 00:26:49.814 --> 00:26:50.164 She- 00:26:50.194 --> 00:26:52.763 Okay… Jennifer: she's getting It's actually kind of entertaining. 00:26:52.763 --> 00:26:53.132 Is she? 00:26:53.132 --> 00:26:53.693 Okay. 00:26:53.890 --> 00:26:54.951 Not in a bad way, though. 00:26:54.951 --> 00:27:00.018 Um- She- you know, she's not into going out to a car at lunch to smoke, so thank you, God- 00:27:00.018 --> 00:27:00.329 Okay 00:27:00.329 --> 00:27:01.871 that that is never gonna be my daughter. 00:27:01.991 --> 00:27:02.126 Good. 00:27:02.135 --> 00:27:03.291 Don't ever let it be my daughter. 00:27:03.291 --> 00:27:09.222 But there was just a project she had, in one of her classes for, I believe it was, um, film studies. 00:27:09.222 --> 00:27:15.119 And there was a group of kids in there, and they didn't include Grace to go out to the car to go smoke. 00:27:15.119 --> 00:27:18.828 Well, and then she didn't wanna be included, so she went and was wandering the hall kinda doing whatever. 00:27:18.828 --> 00:27:28.050 Teacher stops and says, "What are you doing?" She goes, "Oh, um, they, uh, went off to go do something else, so, um, I'm just here by myself." And she didn't tell on them. 00:27:28.050 --> 00:27:29.654 She just said, "I don't know where they're at." 00:27:29.669 --> 00:27:29.924 Yeah. 00:27:30.151 --> 00:27:36.281 So of course, they came back in the class, called her a snitch- … 'cause the teacher had, had said something to them. 00:27:36.281 --> 00:27:44.875 And so they didn't get in trouble, but they got talked to, and then the teacher decided to divide up the team, so that way it was a bit more equal and not friends, you know, being naughty together- 00:27:44.875 --> 00:27:44.894 Okay 00:27:44.894 --> 00:27:46.530 forming their little naughty circles. 00:27:46.538 --> 00:27:46.548 Oh 00:27:46.548 --> 00:27:47.057 my gosh. 00:27:47.057 --> 00:27:49.544 Leaving to go smoke in their car, whatever they were doing. 00:27:49.544 --> 00:27:51.115 Um, but yeah. 00:27:51.115 --> 00:27:56.508 She's like, "I'm getting bullied, and they're gonna transfer me out of the class second semester." So she's gonna go do something else. 00:27:56.508 --> 00:27:58.647 But I thought that is… I, and, and it's not funny. 00:27:58.647 --> 00:28:06.224 She's not being bullied in a bad way, but I just thought she's so beautiful, she's so smart, and she's so nice, and she doesn't take crap from anybody. 00:28:06.230 --> 00:28:06.548 Yeah. 00:28:06.575 --> 00:28:07.762 She just stays quiet- 00:28:07.924 --> 00:28:10.809 Yeah… Jennifer: and stares at Hold on. 00:28:10.809 --> 00:28:11.883 I will say, though- 00:28:11.894 --> 00:28:14.627 She's funny… Katiuscia: the fact that you're Yeah. 00:28:14.665 --> 00:28:14.894 We 00:28:14.894 --> 00:28:15.740 ta- That's her bully. 00:28:15.801 --> 00:28:16.095 Okay. 00:28:16.112 --> 00:28:16.961 That's her being bullied. 00:28:16.961 --> 00:28:18.107 That's her version of being bullied. 00:28:18.107 --> 00:28:21.144 We had talked a few months ago, and you were like, "According to Grace-" 00:28:21.154 --> 00:28:21.276 She 00:28:21.278 --> 00:28:22.692 doesn't- "… bullying is over." Right? 00:28:22.700 --> 00:28:22.710 Yeah. 00:28:22.805 --> 00:28:24.025 "There's no bullying in high school." 00:28:24.035 --> 00:28:24.045 Yeah. 00:28:24.046 --> 00:28:24.553 So now you're like- 00:28:24.556 --> 00:28:24.713 Yeah 00:28:24.713 --> 00:28:25.442 "She's being bullied." 00:28:25.452 --> 00:28:26.126 Two weeks ago- 00:28:26.361 --> 00:28:26.637 Oh my gosh 00:28:26.637 --> 00:28:27.609 she came to me. 00:28:27.609 --> 00:28:29.846 You know, we have our little late night sesh talks- 00:28:29.846 --> 00:28:29.858 Oh 00:28:29.858 --> 00:28:31.702 and she wanted to share that with me. 00:28:31.702 --> 00:28:33.915 But I thought of all people, my God, Grace. 00:28:33.915 --> 00:28:35.655 Like, it's just funny to me. 00:28:35.655 --> 00:28:36.199 Aw. 00:28:36.199 --> 00:28:44.061 But she, she's, she's, um- She's very smart, and I think I've taught her a lot of my, you know, in-school smarts- 00:28:44.061 --> 00:28:44.071 Good 00:28:44.071 -->

00:28:46.827 and street smarts, um, on how to deal with things. 00:28:46.827 --> 00:28:49.587 So again, that's why she didn't go out and smoke in the car with them, thank God. 00:28:49.587 --> 00:28:49.617 Good for her. 00:28:49.932 --> 00:28:51.230 But also how to handle it, too. 00:28:51.230 --> 00:28:53.076 So smile with grace. 00:28:53.076 --> 00:28:54.693 They're gonna do what they wanna do. 00:28:54.761 --> 00:28:55.045 Yeah. 00:28:55.045 --> 00:28:55.315 Let them. 00:28:55.554 --> 00:28:55.782 Yeah. 00:28:55.784 --> 00:28:56.053 Yeah. 00:28:56.173 --> 00:28:57.032 Let them do it. 00:28:57.142 --> 00:28:57.377 So, 00:28:57.377 --> 00:28:57.387 yeah. 00:28:57.387 --> 00:28:58.006 Snitch. 00:28:58.006 --> 00:28:58.368 Aw. 00:28:58.368 --> 00:29:01.220 I love, I love that she wasn't even, she wasn't a snitch 00:29:01.229 --> 00:29:01.519 though. 00:29:01.519 --> 00:29:04.170 No, she goes, "I wasn't a snitch. I just said that they were not around." 00:29:04.173 --> 00:29:04.193 Weren't there. 00:29:04.193 --> 00:29:04.741 Yeah. 00:29:04.741 --> 00:29:05.261 She knew where they were at. 00:29:05.261 --> 00:29:07.288 And she goes, "Which is true. I didn't have any idea where they went." 00:29:07.298 --> 00:29:07.580 That's fine. 00:29:07.593 --> 00:29:10.330 "Except they did tell me they were going to smoke in the car, but I didn't tell them that." 00:29:10.409 --> 00:29:11.445 She wasn't gonna tell on her friends 00:29:11.448 --> 00:29:12.240 there you go… Katiuscia: about that. 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:12.645 Yeah. 00:29:13.202 --> 00:29:19.384 Does she see it with other Does she see, like, a lot of… Like, where she goes to school or there- 00:29:19.557 --> 00:29:19.820 she does- 00:29:19.843 --> 00:29:20.025 Okay 00:29:20.025 --> 00:29:20.867 see mean things. 00:29:20.867 --> 00:29:26.536 Mm. I know she was saying something, you know, she works with, um, last year she was doing, a theater that was for special needs. 00:29:26.536 --> 00:29:27.568 She loves it. 00:29:27.568 --> 00:29:31.166 Um, she's gonna trans- she wants to, she'll d- she'll end up doing it again next year. 00:29:31.166 --> 00:29:34.568 She said she didn't take it this year, but she was wanting to do forensics. 00:29:34.568 --> 00:29:43.246 But she, I mean, she documents and says that there's rude things said about special needs kids, and she'll get right back in and stick up for them and, you know- 00:29:43.308 --> 00:29:43.321 Mm 00:29:43.321 --> 00:29:45.095 let these kids know we don't talk like that. 00:29:45.384 --> 00:29:45.519 Yeah. 00:29:45.688 --> 00:29:46.647 That's, that's not how we speak. 00:29:46.647 --> 00:29:49.392 And if you choose to speak that way, don't talk that way around me. 00:29:49.392 --> 00:29:52.319 So definitely very assertive with- 00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:52.451 Good 00:29:52.451 --> 00:29:53.946 uh, what she's passionate about, for sure. 00:29:53.970 --> 00:29:55.252 She is pretty assertive. 00:29:55.281 --> 00:29:55.509 Yes. 00:29:55.509 --> 00:29:55.923 Yes, she is. 00:29:55.923 --> 00:29:56.847 She definitely knows who she is. 00:29:56.855 --> 00:29:57.294 Yes. 00:29:57.547 --> 00:29:58.539 So we love that. 00:29:58.556 --> 00:29:59.981 We, uh, th- thank God. 00:29:59.986 --> 00:30:00.306 We love a young- 00:30:00.306 --> 00:30:00.519 Yes. 00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:01.759 We we love a young girl that knows- 00:30:01.854 --> 00:30:02.144 Yes 00:30:02.144 --> 00:30:03.748 knows who they are and, and knows what they want. 00:30:04.115 --> 00:30:04.432 Yes. 00:30:04.448 --> 00:30:05.307 And who has drive. 00:30:05.643 --> 00:30:06.137 Yes. 00:30:06.137 --> 00:30:09.618 So I thought it was kind of humbling to have that excluded from a group. 00:30:09.618 --> 00:30:10.084 I think we- 00:30:10.178 --> 00:30:10.373 Yeah 00:30:10.373 --> 00:30:19.300 you know, I, I don't want it for her, but it's a good feeling to have in your life so you can understand the energy of, well, am I, am I accepted here or not accepted here? 00:30:19.459 --> 00:30:19.680 Right. 00:30:19.682 --> 00:30:26.278 Because you can tell when you walk into a room on who's going to accept you and who's friendly or who might take a little bit longer to accept you. 00:30:26.278 --> 00:30:30.728 So I think learning those skills now and people reading is extremely important. 00:30:30.794 --> 00:30:31.068 Yeah. 00:30:31.237 --> 00:30:33.161 So it's gotten, gotten me by. 00:30:33.784 --> 00:30:44.699 When, and when we, when, as we're talking about bullying, nobody ever wants the intense bullying, but this is the bullying, as you're explaining, this is okay, I think, because yes, it is gonna teach her- 00:30:45.022 --> 00:30:45.179 Sure 00:30:45.179 --> 00:30:45.953 those lessons. 00:30:45.953 --> 00:30:48.896 So we'll call it, well, bullying quotes, but it's not really bullying. 00:30:48.896 --> 00:30:50.124 It's just lessons of like- 00:30:50.131 --> 00:30:51.605 They're not into being friends with her. 00:30:51.605 --> 00:30:52.144 She's not the- 00:30:52.144 --> 00:30:52.320 That's fine 00:30:52.320 --> 00:30:53.750 kind of person they would be friends with. 00:30:53.750 --> 00:30:55.657 But in her mind, it felt like bullying. 00:30:55.657 --> 00:30:59.414 But they're not calling her, texting her on her social media. 00:30:59.422 --> 00:30:59.819 Okay. 00:30:59.936 --> 00:31:04.369 So nothing that's invasive because I do have all of her social media as well that I can access. 00:31:04.369 --> 00:31:04.752 Okay. 00:31:04.788 --> 00:31:06.645 So no- nothing like that happening there. 00:31:06.931 --> 00:31:07.351 Good. 00:31:07.471 --> 00:31:11.067 So It's just people she wouldn't wanna be friends with anyways. 00:31:11.067 --> 00:31:12.267 Yeah, you don't wanna be friends with them anyways. 00:31:12.267 --> 00:31:14.313 I'm like, "They're gonna be on drugs by senior year-" 00:31:14.338 --> 00:31:14.476 Yeah. 00:31:14.476 --> 00:31:15.346 if they're not already." 00:31:15.402 --> 00:31:15.807 Yeah. 00:31:15.807 --> 00:31:16.557

Yeah. 00:31:16.557 --> 00:31:17.125 You're like, "You don't-" 00:31:17.125 --> 00:31:19.637 Your parents care about you and love you very, very much. 00:31:20.023 --> 00:31:21.406 Yeah, you don't, you don't need this then. 00:31:21.431 --> 00:31:21.733 Yeah. 00:31:21.935 --> 00:31:22.595 You're fine. 00:31:22.635 --> 00:31:22.891 Yes. 00:31:22.891 --> 00:31:24.363 And they might like you later. 00:31:24.363 --> 00:31:25.020 You never know. 00:31:25.376 --> 00:31:25.644 People are weird. 00:31:25.644 --> 00:31:27.963 Maybe you're annoying to them because you're so happy and sweet and kind. 00:31:27.963 --> 00:31:31.990 Sweet, kind, happy people annoy unhappy people. 00:31:31.990 --> 00:31:32.009 They do. 00:31:32.009 --> 00:31:32.311 They do. 00:31:32.311 --> 00:31:33.228 They do. 00:31:33.228 --> 00:31:33.711 So- 00:31:33.711 --> 00:31:37.933 It's true… Katiuscia: as you're-- We same… I mean, we grew up in the same generation Yeah 00:31:37.933 --> 00:31:46.067 and the same, like, lifestyle and I guess, the normalcy of not having social media, not even knowing what- 00:31:46.067 --> 00:31:46.106 Yeah 00:31:46.106 --> 00:31:47.597 a cellphone was for, you know, until- 00:31:47.597 --> 00:31:48.299 The good old days. 00:31:48.368 --> 00:31:51.817 Yeah, until Zack Morris popped out with one on "Saved by the Bell," the brick. 00:31:51.817 --> 00:32:08.340 But do you think, I guess even with your own friends, like other friends of yours, not in industry, not in your industry- Do you find that social media for adults, do you think that that's done a number to us as well? 00:32:08.859 --> 00:32:09.549 Oh, for sure. 00:32:09.602 --> 00:32:09.924 Yeah. 00:32:10.068 --> 00:32:10.384 Yeah. 00:32:10.384 --> 00:32:12.276 I would, I would think so. 00:32:12.281 --> 00:32:15.277 In terms of, in terms of the confidence aspect or lack of, because- 00:32:15.277 --> 00:32:16.660 Well, yeah, because think about it. 00:32:16.660 --> 00:32:20.380 Everybody, like the whole Kim Kardashian, everybody wanted to look like Kim Kardashian. 00:32:20.380 --> 00:32:25.654 I If I had another bride in that showed me a Kim Kardashian picture, I'm like, "What are… You, you're blonde hair and blue eyes." 00:32:25.699 --> 00:32:25.900 Oh. 00:32:25.900 --> 00:32:26.746 "You look nothing like her." 00:32:26.778 --> 00:32:28.048 It's not gonna, it's not gonna work. 00:32:28.767 --> 00:32:31.428 But yeah, it kinda gaslit everyone to get the big butt, the big lips. 00:32:31.428 --> 00:32:31.772 Yeah. 00:32:31.856 --> 00:32:32.357 You know? 00:32:32.357 --> 00:32:34.671 All of those little details and, right? 00:32:34.671 --> 00:32:36.429 Then people started getting dysmorphia. 00:32:36.429 --> 00:32:40.105 I mean, women our age just trying to compare themselves to other women if they were into- 00:32:40.151 --> 00:32:40.429 Yeah 00:32:40.429 --> 00:32:42.107 comparing themselves to other women that way. 00:32:42.675 --> 00:32:43.430 I think it's- 00:32:43.439 --> 00:32:43.727 And not- 00:32:43.952 --> 00:32:51.813 I think I'm in a weird place in my head where I almost don't remember what it was like before we had all this accessibility online. 00:32:52.147 --> 00:32:53.404 We had fashion magazines. 00:32:53.419 --> 00:32:53.866 We did have fashion magazines. 00:32:53.866 --> 00:32:54.742 We had Vogue. 00:32:54.742 --> 00:32:55.063 We had Vogue. 00:32:55.063 --> 00:32:55.884 We had Elle. 00:32:55.884 --> 00:32:57.138 We had all those. 00:32:57.138 --> 00:32:57.751 Those were ours. 00:32:57.751 --> 00:32:58.176 And that was it. 00:32:58.277 --> 00:32:58.512 Yeah. 00:32:58.512 --> 00:32:59.169 And that, okay. 00:32:59.172 --> 00:32:59.393 Yeah. 00:32:59.393 --> 00:33:00.955 'Cause I'm just like, what was it like? 00:33:00.955 --> 00:33:09.050 You know, you, you go through these moments and these periods in life where it's so great, and I mean, I definitely remember loving the '90s and wanting the '90s back. 00:33:09.050 --> 00:33:09.673 Like, I want- 00:33:09.682 --> 00:33:10.253 For sure. 00:33:10.253 --> 00:33:11.323 I'd like it back today 00:33:11.326 --> 00:33:11.700 that ease. 00:33:11.707 --> 00:33:12.103 Yes. 00:33:12.141 --> 00:33:12.881 The ease. 00:33:12.891 --> 00:33:13.153 I'll take it. 00:33:13.157 --> 00:33:14.681 The, yeah, right, right now. 00:33:14.681 --> 00:33:14.998 Like- 00:33:15.051 --> 00:33:16.415 Minus a few political events. 00:33:16.605 --> 00:33:16.858 Right. 00:33:16.873 --> 00:33:17.594 Minus some, yeah. 00:33:17.934 --> 00:33:18.397 Right, right, right. 00:33:18.397 --> 00:33:18.750 Right. 00:33:18.750 --> 00:33:19.202 Minus a few things. 00:33:19.202 --> 00:33:19.714 Minus some things. 00:33:19.714 --> 00:33:19.932 Yeah. 00:33:19.932 --> 00:33:28.722 But I think just in general, the way of life, the just, it's So I think that's why we're all so nostalgic for a time that no longer exists. 00:33:28.757 --> 00:33:29.056 Well, yeah. 00:33:29.070 --> 00:33:29.651 Because- 00:33:29.932 --> 00:33:30.178 Yes 00:33:30.178 --> 00:33:31.219 it was easier. 00:33:31.219 --> 00:33:34.503 There, I mean, yes, there was bullying and there was judgment and there was- 00:33:34.512 --> 00:33:34.855 For sure. 00:33:34.894 --> 00:33:40.686 But you knew where you stood with someone, because typically you'd either hear it from someone else or they'd come directly. 00:33:40.686 --> 00:33:43.494 Like, you would know before it made its round online or something. 00:33:43.494 --> 00:33:46.430 Well, and it kinda happened from, like, a younger age with bullying, if you think about it. 00:33:46.430 --> 00:33:46.526 Right. 00:33:46.526 --> 00:33:49.721 Like, our generation faced it from a very young age on up. 00:33:49.894 --> 00:33:50.237 Yeah. 00:33:50.474 --> 00:33:52.837 And so it just kinda became, I mean, almost, like, funny. 00:33:53.034 --> 00:33:53.395 Right. 00:33:53.499 --> 00:33:53.871 Right? 00:33:53.871 --> 00:33:54.313 Like- 00:33:54.557 --> 00:33:54.871 Right. 00:33:55.196 --> 00:33:56.234 I mean, really not

funny. 00:33:56.234 --> 00:34:01.825 I mean, at one point I was getting rhinoplasty and boobs 'cause I was flat-chested with what I thought to be a not very nice nose. 00:34:01.832 --> 00:34:02.786 You have a very nice nose. 00:34:02.970 --> 00:34:03.779 It was very nice. 00:34:03.779 --> 00:34:06.539 So did the plastic surgeon that did not do surgery on it told me that. 00:34:06.578 --> 00:34:06.800 Good. 00:34:06.800 --> 00:34:07.785 Yeah. 00:34:07.785 --> 00:34:12.827 I was like, "I don't know what's wrong with you." I was like, "I got called pig face for so long that I think I might need a rhinoplasty." 00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:13.483 Aw. 00:34:13.547 --> 00:34:14.373 He's like, "Absolutely not." 00:34:14.594 --> 00:34:15.094 Yeah. 00:34:15.094 --> 00:34:15.657 See- 00:34:15.657 --> 00:34:17.117 "Let's do a psyche eval on you real quick." 00:34:17.132 --> 00:34:17.661 There you go. 00:34:17.661 --> 00:34:20.289 Let's, let's start there, and then we can- 00:34:20.295 --> 00:34:20.304 But- 00:34:20.304 --> 00:34:20.949 go from there. 00:34:20.989 --> 00:34:21.550 I mean, yeah. 00:34:21.550 --> 00:34:25.342 I think our generation was just fashion magazines where we compared ourselves to- 00:34:25.947 --> 00:34:26.297 Yeah … you know, 00:34:27.085 --> 00:34:28.867 the Victoria's Secret Fashion Show. 00:34:28.916 --> 00:34:29.248 That makes 00:34:30.001 --> 00:34:30.010 sense. 00:34:30.010 --> 00:34:31.425 Yeah. 00:34:31.425 --> 00:34:32.911 That made- Kate Moss days 00:34:33.014 --> 00:34:33.632 Oh, man. 00:34:33.632 --> 00:34:33.641 Kate- 00:34:33.641 --> 00:34:34.456 Remember all those gorgeous models? 00:34:34.507 --> 00:34:36.757 Yeah, well, Kate Moss was a little thin, but- Yeah … I sure- I wanted to 00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:37.226 be her. 00:34:37.398 --> 00:34:38.146 Everyone did. 00:34:38.146 --> 00:34:38.884 I think everyone did. 00:34:38.884 --> 00:34:39.092 I- 00:34:39.092 --> 00:34:39.900 She was all over my wall. 00:34:39.969 --> 00:34:44.599 I don't think I wanted to be… I was like, "She's so thin." And didn't she always have a cigarette in, like, all of her jeans ads? 00:34:44.599 --> 00:34:45.786 She did always have a ciggy. 00:34:45.786 --> 00:34:46.344 Yep. 00:34:46.590 --> 00:34:46.791 Yeah. 00:34:46.795 --> 00:34:47.269 Yes. 00:34:47.364 --> 00:34:48.231 She was a vibe. 00:34:48.231 --> 00:34:49.007 Kate Moss was a vibe. 00:34:49.010 --> 00:34:49.800 I loved her. 00:34:49.878 --> 00:34:50.164 She she was- 00:34:50.586 --> 00:34:52.887 But I will tell you, when Anna Nicole Smith came out- 00:34:52.958 --> 00:34:57.891 Oh, yeah… Jennifer: I was a bit more so I was like, "Oh, there are other women out there." Yes. 00:34:57.905 --> 00:34:59.018 I don't need to weigh- 00:34:59.206 --> 00:34:59.398 Yeah 00:34:59.398 --> 00:35:02.614 130 pounds and get my body to that, which I'm athletically built. 00:35:02.614 --> 00:35:03.615 It just wouldn't have worked. 00:35:03.615 --> 00:35:03.626 Right. 00:35:04.085 --> 00:35:04.688 I tried. 00:35:04.688 --> 00:35:05.625 It looked okay. 00:35:05.625 --> 00:35:07.922 Then I really didn't have boobs. 00:35:07.940 --> 00:35:08.210 Yeah. 00:35:08.210 --> 00:35:09.385 You're like, "It just wasn't sustainable." 00:35:09.385 --> 00:35:16.932 But it was just more of a body type that matched what my body type was without having to, like, you know, work it till… It just wasn't my body type. 00:35:16.936 --> 00:35:17.264 Yeah. 00:35:17.340 --> 00:35:18.463 But I wanted to be Kate Moss. 00:35:19.503 --> 00:35:20.179 Wow. 00:35:20.213 --> 00:35:20.833 I did. 00:35:20.833 --> 00:35:22.012 She was my favorite. 00:35:22.063 --> 00:35:22.795 Oh, wow. 00:35:22.795 --> 00:35:23.900 Anna Nicole, though. 00:35:23.900 --> 00:35:25.144 Anna Nicole was next level. 00:35:25.144 --> 00:35:26.956 I was in college when Anna Nicole was- 00:35:26.956 --> 00:35:27.134 Yes 00:35:27.148 --> 00:35:34.134 real, real popular, and I remember I dressed up as her for a Halloween, and I had, like- Oh, wait. 00:35:34.134 --> 00:35:35.322 I would love to see that. 00:35:35.492 --> 00:35:36.072 It was a good one. 00:35:36.072 --> 00:35:37.257 I had, like, a blonde wig. 00:35:37.257 --> 00:35:39.733 I had, like, a ju- like, a pink Juicy track suit. 00:35:39.733 --> 00:35:40.697 Did you take pictures? 00:35:41.192 --> 00:35:42.525 There are pictures somewhere. 00:35:42.525 --> 00:35:42.807 I would love to see that. 00:35:42.807 --> 00:35:47.405 And I had this purse with, like, a little handbag with a, I think it was Marilyn Monroe on it. 00:35:47.532 --> 00:35:47.806 Yes. 00:35:47.806 --> 00:35:51.603 And I had, like, hot tamales and cookies and stuff just sticking out of it. 00:35:51.603 --> 00:35:52.469 It was a great- 00:35:52.775 --> 00:35:53.746 Was that, like- 00:35:54.402 --> 00:35:58.672 was a great-… Jennifer: not Guess day costume… Jennifer: Guess, when she No. 00:35:58.672 --> 00:36:03.905 Was it further- I think it was, like, when Anna Nicole… Do you remember, did you watch "SNL" back in the day- 00:36:03.914 --> 00:36:04.101 Yes, 00:36:04.101 --> 00:36:04.813 of course… when it was so funny? 00:36:04.813 --> 00:36:14.954 So there was a Smurfette skit that we're all… It was Smurfette, but it was, basically an Anna Nicole Smurfette, so she was, like, blonde- and a little heavier, and she was just… The whole talk was like, "Oh." 00:36:14.954 --> 00:36:17.963 Okay, it was later days when she started eating snacks. 00:36:18.003 --> 00:36:18.431 Yes. 00:36:18.431 --> 00:36:19.737 There we It was Snack Anna Nicole. 00:36:19.737 --> 00:36:20.373 I was, yeah. 00:36:20.378 --> 00:36:21.621 When she was, like, in the Caribbean. 00:36:21.789 --> 00:36:22.179 Yes. 00:36:22.182 --> 00:36:22.610 That one. 00:36:22.784 --> 00:36:23.211 Yeah, yeah, yeah, 00:36:23.215 --> 00:36:23.224 yeah. 00:36:23.224 --> 00:36:23.956 That's Snack Anna Nicole. 00:36:23.963 --> 00:36:24.443 Snack Anna Nicole. 00:36:24.443 --> 00:36:24.590 I 00:36:24.594 --> 00:36:26.519 figured it was Snack, Snack

Anna Nicole- 00:36:26.521 --> 00:36:26.918 Yeah 00:36:26.923 --> 00:36:27.541 with the purse. 00:36:27.541 --> 00:36:27.949 Yeah, 00:36:27.952 --> 00:36:28.211 yeah. 00:36:28.211 --> 00:36:28.907 With the purse. 00:36:28.907 --> 00:36:29.829 It was, it was great. 00:36:29.829 --> 00:36:35.983 But so I mean, I think the beauty standards from when we were younger and just growing up and- 00:36:35.985 --> 00:36:36.324 Yeah 00:36:36.405 --> 00:36:38.782 coming into adulthood were so different. 00:36:38.782 --> 00:36:47.661 And so in terms of how you're being confident with things, it's… We were learning kind of as we needed to learn, I think. 00:36:47.661 --> 00:36:48.166 If you- 00:36:48.190 --> 00:36:48.644 Agreed. 00:36:48.688 --> 00:36:49.541 You know what I mean? 00:36:49.545 --> 00:36:49.672 Yes. 00:36:49.672 --> 00:36:49.958 Yes. 00:36:49.958 --> 00:36:54.831 You kind of went… If you had a special event is the only time you had a makeup artist really touch it. 00:36:54.831 --> 00:36:59.699 Like, if you were in a wedding probably in the '90s, it's if you were in a wedding, if you had- 00:36:59.856 --> 00:37:00.240 Mary Kay 00:37:00.240 --> 00:37:01.135 some big event. 00:37:01.135 --> 00:37:02.461 I mean, yeah. 00:37:02.461 --> 00:37:07.346 But I'm just thinking of what girls have now, and it's everyone is an media- 00:37:07.356 --> 00:37:07.840 Oh, for sure 00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:08.831 teaching you how to do your makeup. 00:37:08.831 --> 00:37:13.880 I wouldn't even imagine that I could understand, like- 00:37:14.121 --> 00:37:17.989 Oh, yeah… Katiuscia: I can't even do young girls do their makeup. 00:37:17.989 --> 00:37:18.764 And I don't wanna learn. 00:37:18.764 --> 00:37:20.766 And that's when the industry changed, too. 00:37:20.942 --> 00:37:20.976 Yeah. 00:37:20.976 --> 00:37:24.829 Everybody was a know-it-all In makeup. 00:37:24.894 --> 00:37:25.141 Yeah. 00:37:25.224 --> 00:37:26.327 That got exhausting too. 00:37:26.327 --> 00:37:27.391 That was another part of it. 00:37:27.518 --> 00:37:27.889 Okay. 00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:29.001 And like- 00:37:29.001 --> 00:37:29.123 That makes sense 00:37:29.123 --> 00:37:32.532 you just watched a 30-minute YouTube video, and I've got like 15- 00:37:32.543 --> 00:37:32.818 Years 00:37:32.818 --> 00:37:33.762 20 years on you? 00:37:33.956 --> 00:37:34.155 Yeah. 00:37:34.155 --> 00:37:35.478 Yeah, but they really- 00:37:35.478 --> 00:37:36.146 But don't listen to me. 00:37:36.146 --> 00:37:36.684 It's okay. 00:37:36.684 --> 00:37:37.199 What do I know? 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:37.947 But they really knew. 00:37:37.947 --> 00:37:38.697 Like they, I mean- 00:37:38.697 --> 00:37:39.469 No, they were good 00:37:39.507 --> 00:37:40.869 those, those girls like get on, and- 00:37:40.869 --> 00:37:41.018 Yeah 00:37:41.018 --> 00:37:42.492 I'm just, I'm amazed- 00:37:42.608 --> 00:37:42.847 Yes 00:37:42.847 --> 00:37:44.313 because I just think, "Oh, wow." 00:37:44.454 --> 00:37:49.041 Oh, I had a friend that's living her best life right now, and she was one of the first YouTubers. 00:37:49.041 --> 00:37:54.639 She started doing like pricing and then started doing makeup videos, and that- 00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:54.650 Wow 00:37:54.650 --> 00:37:57.724 was that whole like when Jeffree Star years Star … years ago. 00:37:57.724 --> 00:37:58.420 Years ago, yes. 00:37:58.420 --> 00:38:00.755 She was friends with him for a hot minute. 00:38:00.755 --> 00:38:07.351 Um, but yeah, she, she, yeah, she just started I lost started lost my train of thought thinking about her. 00:38:07.675 --> 00:38:07.940 That's- 00:38:07.981 --> 00:38:10.021 I was like, "I should've done those dang YouTube videos-" 00:38:10.052 --> 00:38:10.490 I mean, if you did those- 00:38:10.490 --> 00:38:11.577 when she called to say to do it." 00:38:11.766 --> 00:38:12.804 If you did those YouTube videos. 00:38:12.804 --> 00:38:13.141 Yeah. 00:38:13.172 --> 00:38:13.606 Yeah. 00:38:13.606 --> 00:38:15.188 Nope, uh, she was one of the first ones. 00:38:15.188 --> 00:38:15.626 Yeah. 00:38:15.806 --> 00:38:16.570 We'd be in a very- 00:38:16.570 --> 00:38:17.527 She was one of the OGs. 00:38:17.766 --> 00:38:21.922 Yeah, we'd be sitting in a very different studio if you, if you had like made it big on- 00:38:21.922 --> 00:38:23.371 We'd be sitting in our makeup studio- 00:38:23.384 --> 00:38:23.505 Yeah 00:38:23.505 --> 00:38:24.742 hopping out to our private jet. 00:38:24.762 --> 00:38:25.623 There we would be. 00:38:25.623 --> 00:38:27.693 That's what would be happening right now. 00:38:27.916 --> 00:38:30.119 That's, that's how it went down for her, and I'm very happy for her. 00:38:30.139 --> 00:38:30.708 Good for her. 00:38:30.728 --> 00:38:31.041 Yeah. 00:38:31.869 --> 00:38:32.273 Yeah. 00:38:32.273 --> 00:38:32.922 I, I don't get it. 00:38:32.922 --> 00:38:34.344 I just couldn't see myself back on camera. 00:38:34.554 --> 00:38:34.936 Yeah. 00:38:34.952 --> 00:38:36.168 But there's that confidence part. 00:38:36.168 --> 00:38:37.385 I didn't like to hear my voice. 00:38:37.385 --> 00:38:39.757 I didn't like to hear my voice back recorded. 00:38:40.748 --> 00:38:42.293 Isn't that an interesting… A lot of people- 00:38:42.304 --> 00:38:43.349 That's what stopped me from it 00:38:43.405 --> 00:38:44.873 a lot, that's a lot of people, though. 00:38:44.885 --> 00:38:44.981 Yeah. 00:38:44.981 --> 00:38:47.467 That's a lot of people who are like, "I don't like how I talk," or, "Is that how I- 00:38:47.469 --> 00:38:47.864 Yes 00:38:47.875 --> 00:38:48.963 sound?" And all the things. 00:38:48.963 --> 00:38:55.331 But I can get on stage and do a trend show at Nordstrom's and talk to hundreds of women, but the thought of recording myself- 00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:58.326 Interesting… Jennifer: and playing it Interesting. 00:38:58.326 --> 00:38:58.461 I 00:38:58.461 --> 00:38:59.655 thought I sounded like a dude. 00:38:59.655 --> 00:39:00.721 Like- 00:39:00.721 --> 00:39:01.222 Wow 00:39:01.222

--> 00:39:03.032 I don't have a feminine voice, right? 00:39:03.032 --> 00:39:06.840 So like when I heard myself back, I felt like it sounded very masculine. 00:39:07.201 --> 00:39:07.324 Oh. 00:39:07.342 --> 00:39:08.644 Which why would that even matter? 00:39:08.677 --> 00:39:09.233 I know. 00:39:09.271 --> 00:39:09.885 I have no clue. 00:39:09.972 --> 00:39:10.817 You just have like a- 00:39:10.884 --> 00:39:11.181 No clue 00:39:11.181 --> 00:39:11.856 a thicker- 00:39:11.971 --> 00:39:12.103 Yeah 00:39:12.103 --> 00:39:13.199 it's like a thicker voice. 00:39:13.222 --> 00:39:13.400 Yeah. 00:39:13.402 --> 00:39:14.050 You know what I mean? 00:39:14.050 --> 00:39:14.240 Yes. 00:39:14.240 --> 00:39:16.027 But I, I kinda have a thicker voice too. 00:39:16.027 --> 00:39:16.036 Yeah. 00:39:16.036 --> 00:39:18.237 I don't have a very… When I think of a, like a- 00:39:18.237 --> 00:39:18.460 Feminine, sweet 00:39:18.641 --> 00:39:19.922 super feminine voice, like, "Hi." 00:39:19.922 --> 00:39:20.730 I can on the phone. 00:39:20.907 --> 00:39:22.050 Uh, you can. 00:39:22.050 --> 00:39:22.168 That's, 00:39:22.518 --> 00:39:23.826 Oh Sweetie petie, you heard it. 00:39:23.887 --> 00:39:25.418 That's-- I've, I have very much heard it. 00:39:25.418 --> 00:39:29.617 I had a roommate in college, and she would talk normal. 00:39:29.617 --> 00:39:29.940 Yeah. 00:39:29.940 --> 00:39:33.561 It was just always… And then she'd get on the phone with her boyfriend, and we all would look at each other. 00:39:33.561 --> 00:39:34.608 There were eight of us in a suite. 00:39:34.608 --> 00:39:35.559 It's her phone voice. 00:39:35.653 --> 00:39:37.039 She had her boyfriend phone voice. 00:39:37.045 --> 00:39:37.208 Yeah. 00:39:37.219 --> 00:39:45.086 So it was like, "Oh yeah, let's go here, and let's go get this." And we're just like, "Wait, what? 00:39:45.086 --> 00:39:47.068 What's happening right now?" Like, it gets- 00:39:47.068 --> 00:39:48.331 It's your baby voice for him. 00:39:48.355 --> 00:39:49.288 It's the baby voice. 00:39:49.288 --> 00:39:52.077 And, like I do-- I can do my dog mom voice. 00:39:52.096 --> 00:39:52.306 Yeah. 00:39:52.306 --> 00:39:52.780 You know what I mean? 00:39:52.780 --> 00:40:04.257 A- absolutely any dog that I see, I'm like, "Who's the dog?" But, like, no, I just, I don't… My mom will sometimes tell me, like, "Be nicer with your voice." "Make your voice nicer." And I'm like, "I can't. 00:40:04.257 --> 00:40:04.838 I'm sorry. 00:40:04.838 --> 00:40:05.333 It is what it is." 00:40:05.333 --> 00:40:05.599 Your mom's the sweetest. 00:40:05.601 --> 00:40:05.715 I it's the sweetest. 00:40:05.715 --> 00:40:07.704 I also have the mouth, I have the mouth of a sailor. 00:40:07.717 --> 00:40:07.987 Yep. 00:40:08.007 --> 00:40:08.949 We're not changing it. 00:40:08.949 --> 00:40:09.378 Like it's- 00:40:09.378 --> 00:40:09.389 Yep. 00:40:09.389 --> 00:40:10.760 The dogs are gonna like it no matter what. 00:40:10.780 --> 00:40:11.173 They do. 00:40:11.173 --> 00:40:11.717 They love me. 00:40:11.717 --> 00:40:12.445 They do love you. 00:40:12.469 --> 00:40:23.297 So, but in terms of just, I think, overall confidence and trying to build that, I do feel that at almost 43, it's still a s- it's still a daily- 00:40:23.402 --> 00:40:23.965 For sure 00:40:23.965 --> 00:40:28.409 action and thought process, it's, you have to really try. 00:40:28.409 --> 00:40:28.932 It's a try. 00:40:28.938 --> 00:40:29.097 You do. 00:40:29.097 --> 00:40:29.556 It's an effort. 00:40:29.699 --> 00:40:30.523 Yes. 00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:30.902 It's an effort. 00:40:30.902 --> 00:40:35.188 Sadly, I mean, I hate to admit it, but it definitely is an ef- is daily effort- 00:40:35.217 --> 00:40:37.905 Yeah… Jennifer: and affirmations in Yeah. 00:40:38.068 --> 00:40:38.525 Truly. 00:40:38.670 --> 00:40:39.090 Yeah. 00:40:39.106 --> 00:40:39.646 Which is weird. 00:40:39.646 --> 00:40:42.121 You'd think it'll go… Maybe when we're 70, 80. 00:40:42.916 --> 00:40:43.333 Maybe. 00:40:43.333 --> 00:40:44.802 And then we just won't, we just won't care. 00:40:44.811 --> 00:40:45.112 Let's hope. 00:40:45.112 --> 00:40:45.833 hopefully. 00:40:46.155 --> 00:40:46.472 I know. 00:40:46.476 --> 00:40:47.273 We will be that. 00:40:47.273 --> 00:40:53.253 No, but I just think, gosh, it's every day, and even just getting ready in the morning, right? 00:40:53.275 --> 00:40:53.516 Yes. 00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:55.719 To be confident enough to leave the house. 00:40:55.731 --> 00:40:55.744 Yes. 00:40:55.753 --> 00:41:03.927 Now, I've embraced this a lot of, um, no makeup wearing this past summer, and that's just because I was having all those eye issues. 00:41:03.927 --> 00:41:09.550 So, I just kind of had to lean in to acceptance of that, because it was like, "Well-" 00:41:09.623 --> 00:41:12.164 You're beautiful, owning the natural beauty. 00:41:12.398 --> 00:41:13.936 I have makeup on today, so that's why. 00:41:13.936 --> 00:41:15.487 Yeah, but still, you're beautiful without it. 00:41:15.487 --> 00:41:16.510 I've seen you without makeup. 00:41:16.931 --> 00:41:17.449 Well, thank you. 00:41:17.449 --> 00:41:17.467 Yeah. 00:41:17.467 --> 00:41:17.713 Gorgeous. 00:41:17.730 --> 00:41:20.074 But even just getting to that point of- 00:41:20.074 --> 00:41:20.652 Yes 00:41:20.998 --> 00:41:22.503 all right, we have no eyelashes. 00:41:22.503 --> 00:41:30.949 We're still gonna just, like, go out and tackle the day, and hope that if I see someone for business, they're not gonna think, "Oh, she doesn't look-" 00:41:31.132 --> 00:41:31.403 Aw. 00:41:31.418 --> 00:41:33.264 I- "… like, put together," you know? 00:41:33.264 --> 00:41:33.289 I, 00:41:33.300 --> 00:41:33.717 yeah, I get it. 00:41:33.869 --> 00:41:33.889 But that's- 00:41:34.215 --> 00:41:34.523 I get 00:41:34.523 --> 00:41:38.402 it a, that's a real thought, because it's like I would never show up to work like that. 00:41:38.931 --> 00:41:38.951 Mm-hmm. 00:41:38.951 --> 00:41:41.016

But in, but it, when I was having eye stuff, I did. 00:41:41.016 --> 00:41:43.396 So, I mean, I had to, 'cause you gotta do what you gotta do. 00:41:43.396 --> 00:41:44.547 I mean, you still got ready a little. 00:41:45.139 --> 00:41:45.768 Today, yes. 00:41:45.773 --> 00:41:46.206 Yeah. 00:41:46.257 --> 00:41:47.592 I mean, yes, but it's way better. 00:41:47.592 --> 00:41:48.489 You weren't doing any makeup? 00:41:49.228 --> 00:41:49.682 I wasn't doing any. 00:41:49.684 --> 00:41:51.137 You weren't doing anything? 00:41:51.228 --> 00:41:53.362 I wasn't doing anything. 00:41:53.579 --> 00:41:54.235 Dang, girl. 00:41:54.326 --> 00:41:54.864 Wait, when my eye, 00:41:54.983 --> 00:41:55.974 Not even face makeup? 00:41:56.378 --> 00:41:57.617 I mean, the, no, there were just- 00:41:57.617 --> 00:41:59.483 Your skin's beautiful… Katiuscia: there were Your skin's gorgeous 00:41:59.483 --> 00:42:01.851 I don't put a ton of- Yeah … face makeup on anyway. 00:42:01.851 --> 00:42:01.875 I know. 00:42:01.875 --> 00:42:07.329 But like, no, when I was real in the dumps with the eyes, 'cause it's been, it was six weeks, right? 00:42:07.329 --> 00:42:07.353 It's- 00:42:07.353 --> 00:42:08.391 It does mess with your psyche. 00:42:08.391 --> 00:42:09.114 It really does. 00:42:09.114 --> 00:42:09.125 It… 00:42:09.172 --> 00:42:09.608 Oh my God. 00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:09.833 It does. 00:42:09.846 --> 00:42:12.045 And just to have those breaks, and then it's like- 00:42:12.047 --> 00:42:12.369 Yes 00:42:12.369 --> 00:42:13.621 "Is this ever gonna get better? 00:42:13.621 --> 00:42:21.597 Is, like it ever gonna kind of regulate?" And so, in terms of confidence and learning how to just, in, in every stage that you're at- Mm-hmm … right? 00:42:21.597 --> 00:42:21.608 Yeah. 00:42:21.896 --> 00:42:26.989 Whether I was like, now I've, I've, you know, stress, my mechanism is I don't eat, so I've dropped some weight. 00:42:26.989 --> 00:42:31.817 And then, okay, then, you know, you're not wearing any makeup, so now what do you look like? 00:42:31.817 --> 00:42:32.831 You look sickly. 00:42:32.831 --> 00:42:33.813 Okay? 00:42:34.077 --> 00:42:34.195 Yeah. 00:42:34.208 --> 00:42:34.775 So I was looking- 00:42:34.775 --> 00:42:35.172 I get it 00:42:35.172 --> 00:42:35.445 sickly- 00:42:35.445 --> 00:42:36.065 I get what you're saying 00:42:36.065 --> 00:42:36.295 for a minute. 00:42:36.297 --> 00:42:36.494 Yeah. 00:42:36.507 --> 00:42:43.409 So I think it's just- I feel like at this age, in this stage of life, in this, right- 00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:49.442 Yeah… Katiuscia: you talk a it's just new acceptance. 00:42:49.442 --> 00:42:51.570 I feel like confidence is really acceptance. 00:42:51.570 --> 00:42:52.518 Yes, it is. 00:42:52.518 --> 00:42:53.737 100%. That's exactly what it is. 00:42:53.737 --> 00:42:59.592 That would be like my big sis takeaway is that confidence is acceptance in every stage of where you're at. 00:42:59.592 --> 00:43:07.202 And if it's not like full acceptance, it's acceptance with guidelines understanding that you're in the process to do- 00:43:07.202 --> 00:43:07.469 And you're good enough 00:43:07.947 --> 00:43:08.489 and you're good enough. 00:43:08.492 --> 00:43:09.141 You're good enough. 00:43:09.141 --> 00:43:10.320 Good enough for each and every day. 00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:16.242 There was a time where I wouldn't leave my house without makeup on, without a proper, I mean, absolute proper outfit. 00:43:16.242 --> 00:43:17.681 Dressed perfectly. 00:43:17.681 --> 00:43:24.998 And then as I hit my 30s and started staying home with Grace, I just, I kinda lost that part of me, which is a person I thought I'd never be. 00:43:24.998 --> 00:43:28.989 I was like, "Ugh, I'll never be Ugg sweatpant girl." No, I was Ugg sweatpant girl, okay? 00:43:28.989 --> 00:43:29.619 I was her. 00:43:30.364 --> 00:43:31.184 She was me. 00:43:31.184 --> 00:43:31.797 I was her- 00:43:31.809 --> 00:43:32.146 Dang it 00:43:32.146 --> 00:43:32.650 and she was me. 00:43:32.704 --> 00:43:36.327 Didn't wanna be her, but I was, and I was k- kind of comfortable, I suppose. 00:43:36.327 --> 00:43:43.414 And then finding that confidence, right, in that new version of myself when Grace doesn't need me at home cooking, cleaning, slaving away, school, this, that, this. 00:43:43.414 --> 00:43:45.688 And then I'm gonna put myself back together again. 00:43:45.903 --> 00:43:46.117 Yeah. 00:43:46.125 --> 00:43:46.407 Right? 00:43:46.407 --> 00:43:49.773 But also having it just be good enough because you're beautiful. 00:43:49.773 --> 00:43:54.072 Like even you catch me on the weekends, I highly doubt you're gonna see me looking like this. 00:43:54.072 --> 00:43:55.422 I might have a baseball hat on. 00:43:55.567 --> 00:43:56.072 Good for you. 00:43:56.201 --> 00:43:58.288 With tinted moisturizer and some lip gloss. 00:43:58.885 --> 00:43:59.244 As you should. 00:43:59.246 --> 00:43:59.898 And that's it. 00:44:00.583 --> 00:44:01.588 And I think that- 00:44:01.710 --> 00:44:01.963 Pretty enough 00:44:01.963 --> 00:44:03.987 good enough is a really good place to end- 00:44:03.987 --> 00:44:04.702 Yes 00:44:04.820 --> 00:44:08.123 this conversation on today because we are gonna go get a cocktail. 00:44:08.173 --> 00:44:08.777 I want that. 00:44:09.001 --> 00:44:09.184 Let's- 00:44:09.217 --> 00:44:09.800 I've missed you. 00:44:09.847 --> 00:44:10.307 Yes. 00:44:10.307 --> 00:44:12.431 So good enough. 00:44:12.657 --> 00:44:13.001 Yes. 00:44:13.025 --> 00:44:13.951 Accept where you're at. 00:44:14.018 --> 00:44:14.601 Yes. 00:44:14.643 --> 00:44:17.813 And always just remember to love love yourself. 00:44:17.813 --> 00:44:25.983 I think in every stage of your life, whether you're struggling with anything, I don't know, that y- you're perceiving not good enough- 00:44:25.983 --> 00:44:25.994 Yeah 00:44:25.994 --> 00:44:26.938 you are good enough. 00:44:26.938 --> 00:44:28.634 Always love yourself 00:44:30.262 --> 00:44:30.840 Yes. 00:44:32.500 --> 00:44:34.262 And with that, cheers. 00:44:34.304 --> 00:44:35.007 Cheers. 00:44:35.340 --> 00:44:36.210 And we're gonna go get a drink. 00:44:36.262 --> 00:44:36.815 Let's go.