True Crime Documentary - TikTok Star Killer： Ali Abulaban의 전체 녹취록

00:05:06.470 this Darth Vader mask that changed his voice, and he 84 00:05:06.509 --> 00:05:09.509 kept begging his mom for it. His father seemed to 85 00:05:09.550 --> 00:05:11.839 be against the idea of buying him this toy. 86 00:05:11.860 --> 00:05:14.740 He didn't like the fact that it was kind of 87 00:05:14.779 --> 00:05:17.329 childish in his mind. I think I was about 14, 15. 88 00:05:17.300 --> 00:05:17.899 And his response. 89 00:05:24.540 --> 00:05:26.819 To me pestering my mother to purchase this for me 90 00:05:27.870 --> 00:05:30.430 was to grab the vacuum cable and whip me repeatedly. 91 00:05:30.930 --> 00:05:34.389 And that was the worst pain that I've ever felt physically. 92 00:05:34.410 --> 00:05:38.910 I literally would beg him to stop. And he's asking me, 93 00:05:38.970 --> 00:05:41.560 why are you crying? Why are you crying as he's 94 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:43.899 whipping me? 95 00:05:46.259 --> 00:05:51.060 When you're subjected to violence of this type, you can 96 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:54.649 really go in two directions. You can either think to yourself, 97 00:05:55.370 --> 00:05:58.449 I don't want to ever become this man. I'm going 98 00:05:58.490 --> 00:06:02.790 to do something very, very different. Or you can start 99 00:06:02.850 --> 00:06:07.720 to identify with the person who abuses you and think, well, okay, 100 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:11.819 maybe this is what masculinity is about. It's about control 101 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:15.259 of the children. It's about control of the women in 102 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:16.120 my life. 103 00:06:18.110 --> 00:06:20.870 After I graduated high school, a lot of my friends 104 00:06:20.889 --> 00:06:23.170 were taking a break. I wanted to do that. I 105 00:06:23.209 --> 00:06:26.189 wasn't allowed to. I mean, I was dragged to the 106 00:06:26.209 --> 00:06:28.889 nearest community college and forced to sign up. I didn't 107 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:30.920 know what I wanted to do. I didn't know what 108 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:31.480 to do with my life. 109 00:06:32.860 --> 00:06:35.160 Ali would say that he had ADHD, and it was 110 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:38.240 kind of keeping him from being able to concentrate and focus. 111 00:06:38.339 --> 00:06:41.160 He found college pretty difficult, and he had to leave 112 00:06:41.339 --> 00:06:44.519 college because he couldn't really concentrate with his ADHD problems. 113 00:06:46.639 --> 00:06:47.370 College is. 114 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:48.699 I'm a college dropout. 115 00:06:51.660 --> 00:06:54.819 After Ali dropped out of college, he enlisted in the military, 116 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:58.519 in the Air Force, and he got stationed in Okinawa, Japan. 117 00:07:10.829 --> 00:07:14.389 Okinawa is probably the most beautiful place to be in 118 00:07:14.810 --> 00:07:17.560 this world. It's a small island an hour away from 119 00:07:17.569 --> 00:07:25.110 the Philippines. pretty much run by military. Kadena, which is 120 00:07:25.149 --> 00:07:27.879 in Okinawa, is the second biggest Air Force base in 121 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:28.259 the world. 122 00:07:28.279 --> 00:07:35.000 Initially, it was beautiful. It was amazing. I mean, the culture, 123 00:07:35.019 --> 00:07:38.420 the people, all that. Everything was beautiful. I was proud 124 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:39.220 to be in the military. 125 00:07:39.500 --> 00:07:45.870 Anna was definitely a light as far as. 126 00:07:45.490 --> 00:07:46.120 Being a friend. 127 00:07:50.129 --> 00:07:55.250 She was a happy-go-lucky, nerdy gamer girl. She loved her 128 00:07:55.269 --> 00:08:01.329 video games, and she loved being around friends. It was 129 00:08:02.149 --> 00:08:09.250 what made her happy. Anna met Ali in Okinawa around 130 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:15.180 the beginning of his career. Anna was married to one 131 00:08:15.220 --> 00:08:19.279 of his coworkers, and their marriage was not working out. 132 00:08:19.829 --> 00:08:28.800 It being a small community, friends, introduced friends, instantly she 133 00:08:29.240 --> 00:08:35.190 fell in love with him. Ali was funny. He was confident. 134 00:08:35.610 --> 00:08:39.110 He was everything she wanted to be. 135 00:08:42.370 --> 00:08:45.309 In the very beginning of Anna and Ali's relationship, there 136 00:08:45.350 --> 00:08:48.149 were already a lot of signs that he was controlling 137 00:08:48.509 --> 00:08:51.190 and possessive of Anna. He didn't like when any of 138 00:08:51.250 --> 00:08:53.330 her guy friends would compliment her, and he would even 139 00:08:53.370 --> 00:08:54.870 try and stop her from going out. 140 00:08:57.009 --> 00:09:00.809 He didn't like other people even looking at her, and 141 00:09:00.850 --> 00:09:03.769 it was almost like he was in competition with her. 142 00:09:08.940 --> 00:09:13.529 In August of 2015, There were police reports regarding Ali 143 00:09:14.129 --> 00:09:20.789 Aboulaban being drunk and hitting Anna and trying to grab 144 00:09:20.830 --> 00:09:24.350 her and control her. And Ali ended up driving away 145 00:09:24.389 --> 00:09:28.019 from the scene while he was drunk. And so there 146 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:31.799 were charges that were brought against Ali Aboulaban in the military. 147 00:09:32.259 --> 00:09:36.190 And he was, other than honorably discharged.... 148 00:09:39.539 --> 00:09:42.620 When Ali assaults Anna, this is the first time that 149 00:09:42.659 --> 00:09:45.559 we know of that he's engaged in intimate partner violence. 150 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:49.139 And in this moment, there's the potential for him to 151 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:51.940 learn that this is something that shouldn't be done, for 152 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:54.279 him to be punished, for him to have legal consequences. 153 00:09:54.679 --> 00:09:56.059 But that doesn't happen. 154 00:09:56.460 --> 00:09:59.360 And so instead, what it could be he's learning here is... 155 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:01.919 maybe I can get away

with this. 156 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:14.259 After Ali was discharged, he moved back to Virginia. Anna 157 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:17.850 moved to the Philippines. And shortly after that, Anna found 158 00:10:17.909 --> 00:10:18.830 out she was pregnant. 159 00:10:20.250 --> 00:10:23.110 When Anna found out she was pregnant, she was definitely 160 00:10:23.190 --> 00:10:26.769 nervous and scared because she didn't know what she was 161 00:10:26.789 --> 00:10:29.850 going to do. She was living with her mom and 162 00:10:29.889 --> 00:10:33.789 her stepdad in their home in the Philippines, and Ali 163 00:10:34.250 --> 00:10:37.370 convinced her that they would get married and they would 164 00:10:37.389 --> 00:10:43.990 build a life in America. In 2016, Anna and Ali's 165 00:10:44.029 --> 00:10:47.990 daughter was born, and Ali flew down to the Philippines 166 00:10:48.129 --> 00:10:53.159 for about three months to meet his daughter and experience 167 00:10:53.220 --> 00:10:54.000 living with Anna. 168 00:10:55.970 --> 00:10:58.909 When their daughter was nine months old, Anna's visa got approved, 169 00:10:58.970 --> 00:11:01.909 so they moved to Northern Virginia, where Ali's family lived. 170 00:11:02.679 --> 00:11:04.779 Anna and Ali got married, they bought a house, and 171 00:11:04.799 --> 00:11:06.379 they were starting their family life together. 172 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:12.559 Hello, sir. Can we speak to Ali? 173 00:11:12.860 --> 00:11:13.639 Who? 174 00:11:13.779 --> 00:11:14.840 Oh, no, he died. 175 00:11:14.899 --> 00:11:15.559 I'm sorry. 176 00:11:15.580 --> 00:11:16.559 Oh, that's unfortunate. 177 00:11:16.580 --> 00:11:17.139 No, he did. 178 00:11:17.179 --> 00:11:18.480 He went, you know. 179 00:11:18.500 --> 00:11:19.590 We just spoke to him on the phone. 180 00:11:19.610 --> 00:11:20.399 Okay, don't leave here. 181 00:11:21.019 --> 00:11:21.399 Okay. 182 00:11:21.539 --> 00:11:24.549 Okay, all right, thank you. 183 00:11:24.570 --> 00:11:28.110 Back in like 2016, 2017, Ali started making online videos. 184 00:11:28.909 --> 00:11:31.950 One month watching Scarface, the greatest movie I've ever seen 185 00:11:32.009 --> 00:11:32.509 in my life. 186 00:11:32.950 --> 00:11:34.529 You're not going to find a better movie. 187 00:11:34.549 --> 00:11:39.929 Making impersonations, impressions of political figures, other musicians, and movie stars. 188 00:11:40.450 --> 00:11:43.639 What can I get for you today? I'll take your mocha. Okay, 189 00:11:43.700 --> 00:11:44.279 and what size? 190 00:11:44.700 --> 00:11:45.279 A large. 191 00:11:45.639 --> 00:11:48.519 You mean a venti? No, I meant a large. 192 00:11:49.820 --> 00:11:52.820 Ali always loved to make other people laugh, and being 193 00:11:52.860 --> 00:11:55.870 able to have that outlet on social media, it just 194 00:11:55.889 --> 00:11:57.889 made it so accessible for him to get that and 195 00:11:57.909 --> 00:11:59.190 the attention that he wanted. 196 00:11:59.210 --> 00:12:00.789 You guys aren't real. 197 00:12:02.029 --> 00:12:02.950 Are you kidding me? 198 00:12:03.690 --> 00:12:04.909 No, I'm serious. 199 00:12:05.700 --> 00:12:06.629 Nah, I'm real as f * * *. 200 00:12:08.139 --> 00:12:10.500 Both of you guys are characters that I play. 201 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:12.120 So you're telling. 202 00:12:11.820 --> 00:12:13.399 Me that you're me. 203 00:12:14.059 --> 00:12:14.980 Well, no, you're me. 204 00:12:15.940 --> 00:12:16.740 Okay, I'm you. 205 00:12:17.299 --> 00:12:18.700 Who's he? He's me. 206 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:22.480 He had about 40,000 followers, but quickly grew over to 207 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:29.309 about 100,000, and from there, just rapidly started growing. He 208 00:12:29.350 --> 00:12:30.870 went by Jenkid online. 209 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:32.320 What's up, you guys? 210 00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:33.240 It's Jinn Kid here. 211 00:12:33.500 --> 00:12:36.639 Guys, make sure you follow his Instagram at Jinn Kid. 212 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:37.500 Jinn Kid. 213 00:12:37.539 --> 00:12:38.990 J-I-N-N-K-I-D. 214 00:12:39.049 --> 00:12:39.190 Yup. 215 00:12:40.169 --> 00:12:42.330 Everybody follow at Jinn Kid. 216 00:12:42.669 --> 00:12:44.830 This guy has a whole YouTube channel where he posts 217 00:12:44.850 --> 00:12:45.769 these all the time. 218 00:12:45.830 --> 00:12:48.289 Like, I was sitting there crying laughing in his channel. 219 00:12:48.350 --> 00:12:49.009 Is that the name of it? 220 00:12:49.009 --> 00:12:49.210 Jinn Kid? 221 00:12:49.230 --> 00:12:50.009 Jinn Kid, yeah. 222 00:12:52.009 --> 00:12:56.279 In the Islamic religion, Jinn is an unseen and typically 223 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:00.220 unknown being, and it's not really... something that is good 224 00:13:00.299 --> 00:13:04.519 nor bad. And I think with Ali's persona, he didn't 225 00:13:04.539 --> 00:13:07.139 want to be portrayed as either good or bad, but 226 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:20.940 just someone who is making people laugh. One of his most, like, 227 00:13:21.059 --> 00:13:25.179 famous lines was, need something, which is from the video game, Skyrim, 228 00:13:25.259 --> 00:13:29.659 when a non-playable character or an NPC is essentially glitching 229 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:31.700 and saying need something over and over again because you 230 00:13:31.740 --> 00:13:34.120 just like ran into it or ran past the character. 231 00:13:34.139 --> 00:13:35.500 Need something? 232 00:13:37.139 --> 00:13:37.809 Need something. 233 00:13:39.009 --> 00:13:39.549 Need something? 234 00:13:41.210 --> 00:13:41.850 Need something. 235 00:13:43.210 --> 00:13:45.570 People loved his skits. I mean, they just couldn't get 236 00:13:45.610 --> 00:13:47.509 enough of them and he would write back to the 237 00:13:47.549 --> 00:13:50.289 fans and, you know, heart react all of their messages. 238 00:13:50.330 --> 00:13:53.399 You know, he really loved the attention. When you start 239 00:13:53.440 --> 00:13:56.450 getting a lot of

positive attention online, it's like an 240 00:13:56.500 --> 00:13:59.190 adrenaline rush and you're just constantly chasing it and trying 241 00:13:59.210 --> 00:14:00.789 to see what the next big thing that you can 242 00:14:00.830 --> 00:14:06.690 do is. Anna would appear in some of these videos. 243 00:14:06.750 --> 00:14:09.509 Her hand was commonly used as like the POV hand. 244 00:14:09.970 --> 00:14:13.549 In the video game Skyrim skits, as well as, you know, 245 00:14:13.590 --> 00:14:16.889 some of the Tony Montana skits, she was usually playing, 246 00:14:16.980 --> 00:14:19.480 you know, a beautiful woman that Tony Montana is trying 247 00:14:19.500 --> 00:14:35.100 to impress. Ali felt pretty validated by that blue checkmark. 248 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:37.059 He felt like things were really taking off at that 249 00:14:37.100 --> 00:14:39.100 point and he felt like there's no looking back and 250 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:40.159 he was unstoppable. 251 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:43.210 No, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. 252 00:14:44.570 --> 00:14:45.750 I'm verified on Instagram. 253 00:14:46.149 --> 00:14:47.830 I got the blue checkmark and everything, man. 254 00:14:50.100 --> 00:14:54.019 Anna and Ali lived in Virginia for several years, but 255 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:57.730 Anna had a lot of friends from Japan and from 256 00:14:57.789 --> 00:15:01.529 high school that lived in San Diego. And so Anna 257 00:15:01.610 --> 00:15:04.549 and Ali visited San Diego. 258 00:15:04.289 --> 00:15:05.330 In August of 2020. 259 00:15:05.330 --> 00:15:13.700 Anna loved San Diego, loved the lifestyle, loved the beautiful scenery, 260 00:15:14.340 --> 00:15:16.799 all that San Diego has to offer. And Anna would 261 00:15:16.860 --> 00:15:18.940 tell Ali that she wanted to move here. 262 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:22.960 Even though Ali didn't want to go to San Diego 263 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:26.769 right away, Anna convinced him, and Ali saw the opportunity 264 00:15:26.950 --> 00:15:30.149 that was in front of him. Ali was close to LA, 265 00:15:30.570 --> 00:15:33.909 he could collaborate with more social media personalities, and he 266 00:15:33.970 --> 00:15:36.830 really saw the idea that his social media presence could grow. 267 00:15:37.470 --> 00:15:38.779 Anna and Ali moved with their. 268 00:15:38.629 --> 00:15:42.559 Daughter to San Diego in February of 2021. 269 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:51.059 They moved into a apartment complex called Spire San Diego. 270 00:15:51.080 --> 00:15:56.399 It was a new, modern, high-rise building, and it had 271 00:15:56.879 --> 00:16:00.879 beautiful views of the Bay and of downtown San Diego. 272 00:16:03.370 --> 00:16:06.169 They posted a video online with a caption that said, 273 00:16:06.269 --> 00:16:09.830 when your relationship is drama-free, and it shows this perfect 274 00:16:09.909 --> 00:16:13.590 couple living a gorgeous life showing videos of them dancing 275 00:16:13.649 --> 00:16:17.210 around their high-rise apartment to spending time together with their daughter, 276 00:16:17.690 --> 00:16:21.450 and everything really did seem perfect. When Ali and Anna 277 00:16:21.490 --> 00:16:23.820 moved to San Diego, they got more involved in a 278 00:16:23.909 --> 00:16:26.509 party lifestyle than they were used to in Virginia. 279 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:30.480 They started going out, going to. 280 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:33.940 Clubs together with friends, and they started doing drugs a 281 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.080 lot more than they had, specifically doing a lot of cocaine. 282 00:16:41.230 --> 00:16:43.110 Ollie was telling me that it was making him feel 283 00:16:43.169 --> 00:16:46.500 more euphoric and it was helping him to accomplish more 284 00:16:46.700 --> 00:16:49.419 in some of his content. But on the other hand, 285 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:52.879 he would have some breakdowns from his cocaine usage. He 286 00:16:52.940 --> 00:16:58.720 realized it was becoming a problem. Ali had almost a 287 00:16:58.740 --> 00:17:01.879 million followers on TikTok. When Ali got millions of views, 288 00:17:01.940 --> 00:17:03.980 he was just like so excited and happy. He was 289 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:06.779 like screaming in happiness. But whenever his videos weren't doing 290 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:09.279 so well, he just kind of wanted to withdraw a 291 00:17:09.299 --> 00:17:11.180 little bit. It was just pretty low about it. 292 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:13.400 Holy, I've missed you, Gen Kid. It feels like it's 293 00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:13.960 been ages. 294 00:17:14.069 --> 00:17:14.950 It has been ages. 295 00:17:14.970 --> 00:17:17.009 I have not felt like Gen Kid in a long time. 296 00:17:17.589 --> 00:17:19.650 With the numbers going up and down, it's really playing 297 00:17:19.670 --> 00:17:20.750 a number on his mental health. 298 00:17:22.390 --> 00:17:24.049 Okay, I'll play with you. 299 00:17:25.019 --> 00:17:28.700 Ollie's personality started changing from just like cheerful, happy, and 300 00:17:28.740 --> 00:17:31.599 joking to more of that self-sabotage humor. 301 00:17:32.069 --> 00:17:35.170 I have a condition that nobody knows about, but I'm 302 00:17:35.190 --> 00:17:38.609 ready to share. It's called Tony Montana Tourette's. 303 00:17:42.009 --> 00:17:46.650 Around May of 2021, Ollie found out that his mother 304 00:17:46.710 --> 00:17:51.039 was leaving their family for another man. Ollie felt that 305 00:17:51.279 --> 00:17:54.529 his mother was abandoning her whole family. And he is 306 00:17:54.589 --> 00:17:58.150 in disbelief that all the values that he knows just 307 00:17:58.190 --> 00:18:03.680 went out the window. Ali felt resentment towards his mother 308 00:18:04.019 --> 00:18:07.940 for having an affair and abandoning his family. So he 309 00:18:08.140 --> 00:18:11.220 took it out on Anna instead of his mother. 310 00:18:13.619 --> 00:18:16.779 It's rare that we direct the anger that we

store 311 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:21.049 onto the person or persons that it's actually meant for. 312 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:25.839 Ali's response to his mother leaving his father and in 313 00:18:25.900 --> 00:18:30.910 his mind abandoning the family speaks to how he views 314 00:18:31.009 --> 00:18:35.049 women and of course would have carried through into how 315 00:18:35.170 --> 00:18:38.309 he would have viewed Anna. He would have been looking 316 00:18:38.369 --> 00:18:42.079 at her and thinking, well, do you meet my core values? 317 00:18:42.220 --> 00:18:44.539 You know, to what extent are you behaving in. 318 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:47.099 The way that I expect. 319 00:18:46.920 --> 00:18:54.859 For a woman to behave? Ali often made audio recordings 320 00:18:55.140 --> 00:19:00.000 of arguments that he had with Anna, disagreements they had. 321 00:19:00.019 --> 00:19:02.920 Give me my phone back. 322 00:19:03.799 --> 00:19:05.920 Enough! Ali, enough. 323 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:06.960 Ali! 324 00:19:08.069 --> 00:19:08.420 Stop. 325 00:19:08.630 --> 00:19:09.829 Leave me alone! 326 00:19:11.549 --> 00:19:11.730 Stop. 327 00:19:11.750 --> 00:19:13.670 Give me my phone back. 328 00:19:13.990 --> 00:19:14.430 Close the door. 329 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:15.880 Bigger. 330 00:19:16.019 --> 00:19:16.920 You are out of control. 331 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:19.019 Give me my phone. You're the one out of control. 332 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:20.440 I'm trying to leave this house. 333 00:19:20.720 --> 00:19:21.619 Yeah, that's not cool. 334 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:22.500 Give me my phone. 335 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:23.180 With a bunch of guys? 336 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:24.029 Give me my phone. 337 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:25.589 A bunch of guys, huh? 338 00:19:25.609 --> 00:19:26.420 Give me my phone. 339 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:27.769 There's no guys. 340 00:19:28.109 --> 00:19:28.849 Give me my phone. 341 00:19:28.930 --> 00:19:30.210 This is not healthy, man. 342 00:19:30.730 --> 00:19:31.690 You're not healthy. 343 00:19:35.930 --> 00:19:39.569 Everything that Ali was saying to Anna was actually a 344 00:19:39.609 --> 00:19:42.269 reflection of how he felt about his mother. 345 00:19:43.970 --> 00:19:44.579 Look how lame you are. 346 00:19:47.049 --> 00:19:51.519 Ali is recording what you would think would be private moments, 347 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:56.380 and he's recording arguments and discussions that he has with Anna. 348 00:19:57.039 --> 00:19:59.480 And I think that he's doing this because there's a 349 00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:03.759 level of paranoia setting in. It's a very worrying escalation 350 00:20:03.819 --> 00:20:04.519 in his behavior. 351 00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:15.119 There was an incident in July of 2021 when Ali 352 00:20:15.579 --> 00:20:18.980 got into an argument with Anna and he ended up 353 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:22.779 punching her multiple times in the face. She had a 354 00:20:23.099 --> 00:20:26.559 bruised eye. She had swelling on the right side of 355 00:20:26.599 --> 00:20:33.089 her face. Meanwhile, Ali was sending Anna messages telling her 356 00:20:33.210 --> 00:20:37.490 he loved her. He just lost control and he wouldn't 357 00:20:37.529 --> 00:20:42.190 do it again and that he would get help. Ali 358 00:20:42.210 --> 00:20:45.420 was able to convince Anna to stay with him, stay 359 00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:47.819 in their marriage. She had left the home for a 360 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:57.279 couple of days, but ultimately came back. What is your name? 361 00:20:57.359 --> 00:21:00.079 Are you having a fight with a spouse or a boyfriend? 362 00:21:00.140 --> 00:21:00.210 Yes. 363 00:21:09.640 --> 00:21:11.240 Did he hit you? 364 00:21:11.519 --> 00:21:11.740 Yes. 365 00:21:11.900 --> 00:21:12.079 No. 366 00:21:13.319 --> 00:21:14.500 You're not even an American citizen. 367 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:15.960 I brought you to this goddamn country. 368 00:21:16.660 --> 00:21:21.490 Name one man that would do that for you. Women, man. 369 00:21:23.150 --> 00:21:24.630 Ungrateful. 370 00:21:26.309 --> 00:21:27.329 I'm still here for you. 371 00:21:28.450 --> 00:21:29.509 Thank you so much. 372 00:21:30.049 --> 00:21:32.119 Yeah, just don't say anything to him. That way, he 373 00:21:32.140 --> 00:21:34.680 doesn't flare up again. Oh, great. 374 00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:36.500 You were on the phone with police while I said that? 375 00:21:37.339 --> 00:21:37.700 Wow. 376 00:21:39.029 --> 00:21:41.410 Are we on speaker? Yes, ma'am. 377 00:21:41.450 --> 00:21:42.809 Can you take me off the speaker, please? 378 00:21:43.619 --> 00:21:45.339 No, it's the truth. 379 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:47.579 You're a test. Shut the up. 380 00:22:03.279 --> 00:22:07.519 San Diego Police Department arrived at the Spire apartment complex. 381 00:22:09.900 --> 00:22:11.039 I think he just left the house. 382 00:22:11.059 --> 00:22:11.559 He just left? 383 00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:13.809 Is it just you? It's just me and my daughter's here. 384 00:22:14.150 --> 00:22:15.089 Did you say he took off? 385 00:22:15.609 --> 00:22:16.349 Yeah, he just took off. 386 00:22:16.410 --> 00:22:17.210 So what was the fire about? 387 00:22:18.410 --> 00:22:21.170 Um, so it's been happening for like, I. 388 00:22:22.589 --> 00:22:23.450 Would say two weeks. 389 00:22:23.670 --> 00:22:25.289 It was just a lot of verbal stuff. A lot 390 00:22:25.309 --> 00:22:25.839 of verbal stuff? 391 00:22:25.910 --> 00:22:26.190 Okay. 392 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:27.460 How about tonight? 393 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:29.599 It was physical tonight. It was physical. 394 00:22:29.619 --> 00:22:30.170 How did he hit you? 395 00:22:30.609 --> 00:22:32.750 Like, if he's facing me, then he just pushed me 396 00:22:32.769 --> 00:22:33.130 this way. 397 00:22:33.150 --> 00:22:35.690 I fell and hit my head here. I'm going to 398 00:22:35.730 --> 00:22:36.990 just get a full-body picture. 399 00:22:37.069 --> 00:22:38.609 And then I'm

going to run to your entrance, OK? 400 00:22:41.690 --> 00:22:43.900 She had a scrape on her elbow. She had a 401 00:22:43.910 --> 00:22:47.259 bruise on her leg. She had some pain to her head. 402 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:52.160 And that was the first time that she herself made 403 00:22:52.200 --> 00:22:54.819 a report to the police about domestic violence. 404 00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:00.920 Ali is so entitled at this point. He is so 405 00:23:01.180 --> 00:23:05.990 emboldened and possibly disinhibited due to the long-term effects of 406 00:23:06.109 --> 00:23:10.390 drug use that he's live streaming his abuse of Anna. 407 00:23:10.910 --> 00:23:14.289 And it is very, very telling to his state of mind. 408 00:23:14.490 --> 00:23:18.190 He is berating her. It is because of me that 409 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:19.839 you are actually in this country. 410 00:23:19.940 --> 00:23:20.920 You owe me. 411 00:23:21.779 --> 00:23:23.269 Therefore, I own you. 412 00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:30.680 And you have to behave in the way that I expect. Otherwise, 413 00:23:30.740 --> 00:23:32.539 there are going to be consequences. 414 00:23:35.059 --> 00:23:38.359 He knows deep down that hitting a woman is definitely 415 00:23:38.440 --> 00:23:38.960 always wrong. 416 00:23:39.440 --> 00:23:40.309 And yet he's doing it. 417 00:23:40.420 --> 00:23:43.269 And so he is choosing to override his own better judgment, 418 00:23:43.329 --> 00:23:46.329 his own feelings, and not get help and to engage 419 00:23:46.369 --> 00:23:47.069 in this violence anyway. 420 00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:52.579 Ollie was going in a downward spiral. I mean, his 421 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:55.920 addiction was increasing to the cocaine, and his marriage problems 422 00:23:55.940 --> 00:23:58.160 were getting worse. Everything was breaking down. 423 00:23:58.180 --> 00:24:04.900 Who is she? 424 00:24:04.980 --> 00:24:05.619 I want. 425 00:24:07.220 --> 00:24:07.599 To know. 426 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:08.019 Who is she? 427 00:24:08.859 --> 00:24:09.460 Someone's upset? 428 00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:13.960 Anna had found out that Ollie cheated on her with 429 00:24:14.029 --> 00:24:15.220 a girl he met in an elevator. 430 00:24:16.849 --> 00:24:18.049 Why do you play these games, Ollie? 431 00:24:18.069 --> 00:24:19.069 You want a marriage? 432 00:24:19.589 --> 00:24:21.910 During September and October of 2021, Ali continued to seek. 433 00:24:21.869 --> 00:24:23.930 Out other women, either through social media or through escort services. 434 00:24:23.950 --> 00:24:24.390 I have no use. 435 00:24:25.809 --> 00:24:26.140 For you. 436 00:24:52.250 --> 00:24:56.990 Anna hosted a TikTok mentioning that for seven years she's 437 00:24:57.029 --> 00:25:03.170 been dealing with abuse and cheating. After Anna had found 438 00:25:03.309 --> 00:25:09.859 out everything, she was hurt. She was done. It was 439 00:25:09.950 --> 00:25:12.319 like everything that she had been holding on to in 440 00:25:12.380 --> 00:25:13.640 her marriage went out the window. 441 00:25:13.660 --> 00:25:15.140 And she left me. 442 00:25:19.140 --> 00:25:22.279 Anna has made the decision that she's ready to leave. 443 00:25:23.420 --> 00:25:27.390 This is the time when the risk to her increases 444 00:25:27.609 --> 00:25:33.170 massively because it's going to be such a threat to 445 00:25:33.329 --> 00:25:39.269 Ali's sense of masculinity, sense of control over her. And 446 00:25:39.309 --> 00:25:43.369 if there's another person who comes into the picture, then 447 00:25:43.430 --> 00:25:45.210 it's losing even more control. 448 00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:53.549 Ray was a sweet, kind-hearted soul. There was no angry 449 00:25:53.589 --> 00:25:56.430 bone in his body. From the moment he met Anna, 450 00:25:56.710 --> 00:26:02.019 he saw her light. And Anna ended up building a 451 00:26:02.059 --> 00:26:02.839 relationship with him. 452 00:26:04.539 --> 00:26:07.779 Ray was a very hardworking man. He worked in construction 453 00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:08.480 with his brother. 454 00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:13.599 Rayburn Barone was inside of Anna's friend group. He was 455 00:26:13.660 --> 00:26:16.960 often out with them at restaurants, at clubs, going out. 456 00:26:17.420 --> 00:26:19.259 And Ali didn't like him from the beginning. 457 00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:23.059 When we moved here, I didn't want you to be 458 00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:25.279 close to Ray. I saw that they were bad people 459 00:26:25.299 --> 00:26:28.400 and that they had their tongues melting before you. They 460 00:26:28.420 --> 00:26:30.019 wanted to f * * * you so bad. And 461 00:26:30.059 --> 00:26:30.640 what do you do? 462 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.140 You follow them and you party with them. 463 00:26:33.500 --> 00:26:36.900 That tells me your character. You are f * * 464 00:26:36.210 --> 00:26:37.329 * ing trash. 465 00:26:38.440 --> 00:26:40.789 Ray said that Ali was lucky to have a woman 466 00:26:40.829 --> 00:26:44.430 like Anna as his wife. Ali, being the jealous person 467 00:26:44.450 --> 00:26:47.170 that he is, immediately didn't like Ray after that. 468 00:26:49.069 --> 00:26:52.380 Ray was a gentleman. The way he spoke to women 469 00:26:52.420 --> 00:26:57.259 was so delicate. He was respectful. It seemed like Anna 470 00:26:57.299 --> 00:27:08.589 and Ray were falling in love with each other. He 471 00:27:08.609 --> 00:27:11.049 had begged her, just please, can we have a family dinner? 472 00:27:11.349 --> 00:27:14.289 She agreed. Anna is trying to leave, and he gets 473 00:27:14.329 --> 00:27:14.750 in the car. 474 00:27:17.099 --> 00:27:18.599 You've been sucking me dry for everything I got. 475 00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:19.640 There is nobody. 476 00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:20.369 There has to be. 477 00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:21.720 Can you get out of my car before I. 478 00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:24.779 I swear to God, you're going to do some crazy 479 00:27:24.819 --> 00:27:25.079 shit again. 480

00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:25.980 Get out of the car, please. 481 00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:26.480 Who are you calling? 482 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:27.319 The police. 483 00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:27.779 Why? 484 00:27:27.799 --> 00:27:29.380 Because you need to get the out of my car 485 00:27:29.420 --> 00:27:29.920 and my life. 486 00:27:33.069 --> 00:27:33.690 Get out! 487 00:27:33.730 --> 00:27:39.609 Get out! You can hear them arguing, and you can 488 00:27:39.690 --> 00:27:43.329 hear Ali hit Anna, and she screams, and that was 489 00:27:43.369 --> 00:27:48.309 in front of their child. Anna wanted to get a 490 00:27:48.349 --> 00:27:52.450 restraining order against Ali as he wouldn't leave her alone. 491 00:27:54.150 --> 00:27:55.690 I want to know what's going on. 492 00:27:55.829 --> 00:27:56.349 Talk to me. 493 00:27:56.390 --> 00:27:58.849 Respond to my text. You said you're not going out tonight. 494 00:27:59.029 --> 00:28:01.329 You lie to me all the time. 495 00:28:01.910 --> 00:28:03.650 Are you with another man? Just let me know so 496 00:28:03.730 --> 00:28:04.250 I can leave. 497 00:28:04.869 --> 00:28:05.390 Let me know. 498 00:28:05.549 --> 00:28:06.549 Are you with another man? 499 00:28:07.089 --> 00:28:09.690 There's no way that you lost love for me. 500 00:28:09.990 --> 00:28:10.769 Just overnight. 501 00:28:12.390 --> 00:28:15.910 Ali was essentially stalking her and constantly texting her and 502 00:28:15.990 --> 00:28:16.630 calling her. 503 00:28:16.650 --> 00:28:21.240 Hey, Anna. Just want to say good morning. 504 00:28:22.210 --> 00:28:24.259 I've been sitting here for like an hour or two, 505 00:28:25.500 --> 00:28:27.220 and I just went through all of the audio recordings 506 00:28:27.259 --> 00:28:29.839 that I have of us arguing. 507 00:28:34.900 --> 00:28:35.640 I'm an idiot. 508 00:28:35.779 --> 00:28:38.359 I'm so sorry. I'm so f * * * ing sorry. 509 00:28:39.339 --> 00:28:41.880 I get it why you're sick of me. I get 510 00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:43.490 it why you don't want to see me. Yeah, I 511 00:28:43.509 --> 00:28:46.269 just need to be responsible for what I did. 512 00:28:46.289 --> 00:28:49.150 I just want to let you know I'm learning, and 513 00:28:49.509 --> 00:28:53.960 I see the truth. And I do very much love you. 514 00:28:54.740 --> 00:28:57.640 And I'm sorry. I'm sorry for all this. 515 00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:05.099 Anna and their daughter were living at a friend's house, 516 00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:07.359 but Ali decided that he was going to leave the 517 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:10.099 apartment so Anna and their daughter could have the apartment 518 00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:12.109 to themselves, and he was going to stay at a 519 00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:13.240 hotel in San Diego. 520 00:29:19.049 --> 00:29:23.869 Ali was trying to get Anna back, making another effort 521 00:29:24.009 --> 00:29:26.970 to try to keep her with him in their marriage. 522 00:29:27.299 --> 00:29:32.140 He sent her groceries and flowers

and a pumpkin to 523 00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:34.099 the apartment. 524 00:29:35.609 --> 00:29:38.970 Anna gets her daughter ready for school, takes her to school. 525 00:29:43.460 --> 00:29:47.960 And after she had lunch with some girlfriends, she went 526 00:29:47.980 --> 00:29:51.460 back to the apartment and the whole apartment was vandalized. 527 00:30:02.609 --> 00:30:03.710 San Diego emergency? 528 00:30:04.049 --> 00:30:04.450 Yes, ma'am. 529 00:30:04.730 --> 00:30:07.339 My wife and another man were... I found them dead 530 00:30:07.359 --> 00:30:09.059 on the couch. Bullet holes to the face. 531 00:30:09.660 --> 00:30:10.500 Someone was shot? 532 00:30:11.619 --> 00:30:14.960 Two people, a man and my wife. Okay, stand by. 533 00:30:14.980 --> 00:30:15.619 Please help my wife. 534 00:30:15.700 --> 00:30:16.420 Please help my wife. 535 00:30:16.660 --> 00:30:18.869 Okay, hold on, sir. 536 00:30:20.609 --> 00:30:23.569 In the police department's mind, the suspect is probably still 537 00:30:23.650 --> 00:30:25.609 either in the area or in the building or maybe 538 00:30:25.670 --> 00:30:26.509 even in the apartment. 539 00:30:30.230 --> 00:30:33.539 At 3.13 p.m., officers had to do an emergency breach 540 00:30:33.579 --> 00:30:35.839 of the apartment because no one was answering and they 541 00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:37.440 knew that someone was shot inside. 542 00:30:37.460 --> 00:30:41.940 Stand by, stand by, stand by, stand by. 543 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:42.900 We got it clear. 544 00:30:43.359 --> 00:30:44.920 Oh, we got two down, we got two down. 545 00:30:44.940 --> 00:30:46.440 Emergency entry, I need a team. 546 00:30:47.900 --> 00:30:50.720 The police officers make entry at the Spire apartment. They 547 00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:53.559 find two bodies, one male, one female. 548 00:30:53.829 --> 00:30:54.289 On the couch. 549 00:30:55.990 --> 00:30:58.269 Hey, bathroom's clear, slow down, slow down. 550 00:30:59.380 --> 00:31:00.720 Slow down. 551 00:31:00.740 --> 00:31:02.059 I already cleared it. 552 00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:03.029 I already cleared it. 553 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:04.160 Clear that room right there. 554 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:05.599 Bathroom's clear. 555 00:31:05.619 --> 00:31:06.200 Bathroom's clear. 556 00:31:06.259 --> 00:31:07.000 I got it. 557 00:31:07.339 --> 00:31:07.640 I got it. 558 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:08.099 I got it. I got it. 559 00:31:08.099 --> 00:31:08.519 I got it. 560 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:08.779 I got it. 561 00:31:09.180 --> 00:31:09.740 I got a closet. 562 00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:10.339 I got a closet. 563 00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:12.839 All right. 564 00:31:12.859 --> 00:31:13.319 Room's clear. 565 00:31:13.339 --> 00:31:13.880 Room's clear. 566 00:31:15.230 --> 00:31:17.869 They're trying to find out who lives there, who the 567 00:31:17.910 --> 00:31:19.690 suspect could be, who the shooter could be. 568 00:31:22.130 --> 00:31:22.849 Hold on. We got a balcony. 569 00:31:22.890 --> 00:31:23.509 We got a balcony. 570 00:31:31.410 --> 00:31:32.089 We're clear. 571 00:31:32.390 --> 00:31:33.150 We're clear. 572 00:31:35.190 --> 00:31:36.920 We're clear. 573 00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:38.839 Wait. Hey, stand by. 574 00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:40.539 Hey, once this place is clear, we need to hold 575 00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:41.039 the evidence. 576 00:31:41.059 --> 00:31:42.500 We need to clear it out and just hold it off. 577 00:31:42.579 --> 00:31:43.420 Oh, yeah, yeah. 578 00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:44.420 Don't look anything. 579 00:31:44.460 --> 00:31:44.680 No. 580 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:45.880 No fire. 581 00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:47.559 Guys, have we checked anything? 582 00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:49.759 Have we checked holes, guys? 583 00:31:49.819 --> 00:31:50.160 Checked holes. 584 00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:53.519 Checked holes. It sounds like there's a third shooter. 585 00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:54.940 Someone came here and shot them. 586 00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:57.339 That's the guy that he's describing. 587 00:31:59.660 --> 00:32:04.240 The police learned that Ali also lived in that apartment 588 00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:06.380 and that he had a Jeep that he drove that 589 00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:09.849 was registered to the apartment. And so now the police 590 00:32:09.910 --> 00:32:11.829 are out looking for this black Jeep. 591 00:32:21.619 --> 00:32:25.960 After being arrested, Abulawan was taken back. 592 00:32:27.309 --> 00:32:30.130 To the San Diego headquarters building. 593 00:32:30.150 --> 00:32:36.109 There, homicide detectives interviewed him. 594 00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:01.180 Anna left around 8.40 a.m. to take their daughter to school. 595 00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:06.450 And so Ali went up to the apartment. He arrives 596 00:33:06.589 --> 00:33:11.390 about 9.12 a.m. There's surveillance video showing him going up 597 00:33:11.430 --> 00:33:15.589 to the 35th floor. He ended up trashing the apartment. 598 00:33:16.190 --> 00:33:18.089 He smashed the pumpkin on the floor. 599 00:33:18.750 --> 00:33:19.349 He threw the. 600 00:33:19.390 --> 00:33:23.109 Flowers on the floor. All this time, he was recording 601 00:33:23.150 --> 00:33:23.890 it on his phone. 602 00:33:25.750 --> 00:33:26.549 You locked your husband? 603 00:33:26.569 --> 00:33:27.750 You cheating on me? 604 00:33:30.150 --> 00:33:33.119 He downloads an app onto his daughter's iPad so he 605 00:33:33.130 --> 00:33:35.619 can listen in to whatever's going on within the apartment. 606 00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:37.380 And then he leaves. 607 00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:44.640 Anna enters the apartment to find it trashed. Ray shows 608 00:33:44.700 --> 00:33:47.509 up to the apartment to help Anna clean up. They're 609 00:33:47.549 --> 00:33:51.359 inside talking, but unbeknownst to them, Ali is listening in 610 00:33:51.430 --> 00:33:58.900 on his daughter's iPad. At 2.50 p.m., Abu Laban enters 611 00:33:58.940 --> 00:34:04.440 the parking garage of the apartment complex. He starts recording 612

00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:13.750 on his phone and enters the elevator. At 2.58 p.m., 613 00:34:15.099 --> 00:34:17.880 The boulevard arrives at the apartment on the 35th floor. 614 00:34:24.699 --> 00:34:30.469 You hear the door open. And just over a second later, 615 00:34:30.969 --> 00:34:33.269 you hear Ali rack his gun. 616 00:34:38.730 --> 00:34:41.809 It was just so raw and visceral, the striking part 617 00:34:41.829 --> 00:34:49.530 of this. They realize what's going to happen. She kind 618 00:34:49.550 --> 00:34:59.659 of screams out and then he just starts shooting. Abulaban 619 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.760 leaves the apartment and pretty much just turns around right away, 620 00:35:03.019 --> 00:35:04.280 comes back inside. 621 00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:23.900 At 2.59 p.m., Ali took two photos of his dead 622 00:35:23.940 --> 00:35:29.170 victims on his cell phone. And he sends those photographs 623 00:35:29.389 --> 00:35:34.010 to both of his parents. And at 3.02 p.m., Ali 624 00:35:34.050 --> 00:35:36.530 calls his mother on his cell phone. 625 00:35:36.550 --> 00:35:41.409 I was just trying to go in to look for 626 00:35:41.449 --> 00:35:41.869 everyone else. 627 00:35:41.889 --> 00:35:44.480 I was just trying to go in to look. 628 00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.559 For everyone else. 629 00:35:57.929 --> 00:36:03.360 He gets on the elevator. About 3.04 p.m., he encounters 630 00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:07.280 a neighbor on the elevator. He's calm. You can see 631 00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:10.079 the picture of the dead bodies on his cell phone. 632 00:36:10.380 --> 00:36:12.280 And then, you know, he just rides it down. 633 00:36:13.059 --> 00:36:16.780 As soon as he's in his Jeep, he calls 911. 634 00:36:17.579 --> 00:36:19.599 He doesn't give any information that he was the one 635 00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:21.420 who just shot and killed Anna. 636 00:36:21.460 --> 00:36:25.340 And he ends up hanging up on the 911 dispatcher. 637 00:36:45.619 --> 00:36:48.380 Ali gets on the freeway, he has their five-year-old daughter 638 00:36:48.420 --> 00:36:52.400 in the car, and he starts driving away. Within minutes, 639 00:36:52.460 --> 00:36:56.880 he's surrounded by police and helicopters. He ended up pulling 640 00:36:56.940 --> 00:36:58.699 off the freeway and surrendering. 641 00:36:58.719 --> 00:36:59.860 Stop! 642 00:37:00.420 --> 00:37:02.860 Turn around. 643 00:37:07.460 --> 00:37:11.059 And circle! 644 00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:14.780 Ray had. 645 00:37:15.250 --> 00:37:21.389 three gunshot wounds. One entered through his cheek, one entered 646 00:37:21.469 --> 00:37:26.219 his neck, and then one of the bullets entered the 647 00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:31.559 back of his head. Anna had one gunshot wound. She 648 00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.659 was shot once in the top of her forehead, and 649 00:37:34.820 --> 00:37:38.300 the bullet exited through the back of her head, cracking 650 00:37:38.340 --> 00:37:42.929 her skull. He was trained as a military police officer, 651 00:37:43.190 --> 00:37:45.750 and he knew how to shoot someone to kill, and 652 00:37:45.789 --> 00:37:46.809 that's exactly what he did. 653 00:37:46.829 --> 00:37:50.769 And I receive a call from one of my close friends, 654 00:37:51.329 --> 00:37:55.440 and she's crying. She said he did it. I think 655 00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:56.300 he finally did it. 656 00:37:58.659 --> 00:38:02.219 Ali, in his delusional mind, he's been obsessing over this 657 00:38:02.260 --> 00:38:05.099 idea that she's sleeping with other men, and now she 658 00:38:05.260 --> 00:38:09.840 actually might be. And because he hasn't stopped at all 659 00:38:09.860 --> 00:38:12.079 of the red flags up to this point and intervened 660 00:38:12.139 --> 00:38:15.889 and sought help, he instead allows himself to lean into 661 00:38:15.929 --> 00:38:16.489 his emotions. 662 00:38:16.989 --> 00:38:19.010 He lets his rage get out of control. 663 00:38:19.210 --> 00:38:22.670 And he decides that he's just going to solve this 664 00:38:22.690 --> 00:38:25.570 problem by killing her. He wants revenge and wants to 665 00:38:25.750 --> 00:38:29.340 finally resolve those feelings and thoughts and fears that have 666 00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:31.079 been festering his mind for so long. 667 00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:38.780 Ali was pleading not guilty. When one of the detectives 668 00:38:38.820 --> 00:38:45.760 was talking about seeing some Instagram messages between Anna and Ray, 669 00:38:45.860 --> 00:38:48.039 where they discussed that they were going to meet up 670 00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:52.599 at a hotel, Ali just blew up. Do you think 671 00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:53.780 I wanted this? 672 00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:57.889 I wanted this! 673 00:38:58.269 --> 00:39:01.230 Who the f * * * are you? 674 00:39:01.829 --> 00:39:02.110 Mr. 675 00:39:02.130 --> 00:39:03.329 Abolbon, I need you to stop. 676 00:39:09.389 --> 00:39:14.119 Alia Boulaban absolutely explodes in court, and that's because he 677 00:39:14.179 --> 00:39:19.079 was having to listen to text messages between Anna and 678 00:39:19.179 --> 00:39:23.760 her friend Ray. And he was jealous. Even with Anna 679 00:39:23.889 --> 00:39:27.389 and Ray no longer alive, it just shows you how 680 00:39:27.570 --> 00:39:31.389 threatening he found that. So this is evidence of what 681 00:39:31.449 --> 00:39:35.679 he would have perceived as his woman with another man. 682 00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:38.940 This is her betraying him. And for it to be 683 00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:42.579 read out in court is humiliating for him. And I 684 00:39:42.619 --> 00:39:45.639 think this is why we get this huge explosion of anger. 685 00:39:51.730 --> 00:39:54.050 I was the only reporter that was inside of the 686 00:39:54.090 --> 00:39:58.760 courtroom covering the Ali Aboulaban trial every single day. The 687 00:39:58.820 --> 00:40:01.840 double murder trial is expected to start later this week. 688 00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:04.300 In court on

Monday, we learned that Ali. 689 00:40:04.050 --> 00:40:08.769 Aboulaban is planning to testify in his own defense. This 690 00:40:08.829 --> 00:40:11.909 was a very high profile case in San Diego. Not 691 00:40:11.949 --> 00:40:14.500 only do you have a murder... A double murder in 692 00:40:14.539 --> 00:40:17.880 San Diego, but also the killer is a TikTok star. 693 00:40:18.260 --> 00:40:21.099 So this had a really far-reaching audience that spread beyond 694 00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:26.280 San Diego. Ali had two and a half years to 695 00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:29.159 rehearse exactly what he was going to say on that stand. 696 00:40:29.780 --> 00:40:32.690 When he started talking, it is so quiet in that courtroom, 697 00:40:32.889 --> 00:40:34.070 you could hear a pen drop. 698 00:40:37.030 --> 00:40:38.969 I didn't expect that Anna would ever do that to me. 699 00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:42.960 I couldn't take it. 700 00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.420 I couldn't take the f * * * ing betrayal. 701 00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:48.820 I couldn't believe that she could do that to me. 702 00:40:49.900 --> 00:40:51.820 And before I could stop myself, I just. 703 00:40:51.659 --> 00:40:52.679 F * * * ing snapped. 704 00:40:53.030 --> 00:40:55.210 My gun was in my hand, and next thing I'm shooting, 705 00:40:55.269 --> 00:40:57.389 and I can't stop. 706 00:40:57.530 --> 00:41:00.469 I'm just shooting, I'm shooting, and I'm even startled. 707 00:41:00.489 --> 00:41:02.349 It's like I'm watching it happen. I'm like I'm in 708 00:41:02.429 --> 00:41:03.489 the passenger. 709 00:41:03.050 --> 00:41:03.969 Seat of my own body. 710 00:41:06.820 --> 00:41:08.960 You can see that alley to the end really precisely 711 00:41:09.340 --> 00:41:13.239 paints himself as the victim and Anna as the betrayer. 712 00:41:13.579 --> 00:41:16.059 She is the one who caused this whole situation and 713 00:41:16.099 --> 00:41:19.760 caused this anger inside him. And this out-of-body reaction that 714 00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:23.409 he's talking about, which might be true, it still is 715 00:41:23.449 --> 00:41:25.909 her fault. It's not his fault for not seeing the signs. 716 00:41:25.949 --> 00:41:29.250 It's her fault for evoking this feeling in him. And 717 00:41:29.269 --> 00:41:31.610 that's the classic defense that we often get from men 718 00:41:31.650 --> 00:41:33.969 who have not controlled their anger over a long period 719 00:41:33.989 --> 00:41:36.010 of time and then blame the victims when they act 720 00:41:36.070 --> 00:41:36.530 out and kill them. 721 00:41:38.530 --> 00:41:40.929 He was using the heat of passion defense. Part of 722 00:41:40.969 --> 00:41:44.469 heat of passion is that the defendant, Ali, has to 723 00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:48.760 prove that he was provoked. You can't provoke somebody by 724 00:41:49.219 --> 00:41:52.099 being with another man who she's allowed to be with 725 00:41:52.179 --> 00:41:55.480 because she's no longer with her husband. None of that 726 00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:58.719 was sufficient provocation to prove a heat of passion defense. 727 00:41:59.139 --> 00:42:02.340 And certainly Ray did nothing to provoke Ali. 728 00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:07.039 The prosecution showed some of his Google searches in the 729 00:42:07.099 --> 00:42:09.679 days and the moments leading up to this murder. At 730 00:42:09.780 --> 00:42:14.690 one point, he had searched chopping up bodies. His actions 731 00:42:14.789 --> 00:42:17.610 wasn't of someone that had just committed a crime of passion, 732 00:42:17.650 --> 00:42:22.190 but instead someone that had just committed premeditated murder. The 733 00:42:22.210 --> 00:42:25.650 defense really tried to paint Ali as this kid who 734 00:42:25.670 --> 00:42:28.639 went through a really rough childhood and had some untreated 735 00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:30.780 issues that went into his adulthood. 736 00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:34.940 Whether that was ADHD, abuse, addictions. 737 00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:37.760 They tried to claim that he had bipolar disorder, that 738 00:42:37.820 --> 00:42:40.320 his drug addiction had gotten so bad that it was 739 00:42:40.489 --> 00:42:42.269 over-consuming everything he did. 740 00:42:43.250 --> 00:42:46.250 There was no diagnosis that he had bipolar disorder or 741 00:42:46.329 --> 00:42:49.389 any other ailment before or on the day of the murders. 742 00:42:49.809 --> 00:42:52.610 It was only after the fact, years later. There's no 743 00:42:52.650 --> 00:42:55.590 history of him seeing anybody to get help for it. 744 00:43:03.219 --> 00:43:08.079 We ask, who is Ali Aboulaban? He's somebody that is 745 00:43:08.139 --> 00:43:12.559 only thinking about himself, and the idea of killing two 746 00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:14.000 innocent people. 747 00:43:16.710 --> 00:43:17.550 Doesn't disturb him. 748 00:43:17.570 --> 00:43:18.369 It's chilling. 749 00:43:18.389 --> 00:43:18.809 It's chilling. 750 00:43:20.900 --> 00:43:24.199 Ali Aboulaban was sentenced to 25 years to life for 751 00:43:24.380 --> 00:43:27.719 each count of murder. 25 years for Anna, 25 years 752 00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:28.239 for Ray. 753 00:43:29.940 --> 00:43:33.860 So the bottom line here is he will die in prison. 754 00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:35.840 He will never be a free man. He will take 755 00:43:35.860 --> 00:43:36.659 his last breath. 756 00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:37.079 Ali was. 757 00:43:43.980 --> 00:43:57.880 Extremely abusive, controlling, jealous, narcissistic, possessive, someone who was trying 758 00:43:57.900 --> 00:44:02.559 to be funny, impersonating violent killers, and then ultimately became 759 00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:03.679 one of those killers. 760 00:44:08.429 --> 00:44:10.190 What I find most striking about Ali is that he 761 00:44:10.230 --> 00:44:13.570 got so tangled in his own fabricated reality. 762 00:44:14.050 --> 00:44:16.230 That he started to shift the. 763 00:44:16.190 --> 00:44:19.090 Baseline of what he thought was acceptable behavior to not 764 00:44:19.130 --> 00:44:23.289 just perpetrate, but share. And that is unusual, that perpetrators 765 00:44:23.329 --> 00:44:27.900 actually video and show live some of the abuse that 766 00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:31.559 they're hurling at their partner to hundreds of thousands of people. 767 00:44:32.420 --> 00:44:35.539 You could see these critical moments where he's reported to 768 00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:38.139 the police or he's kicked out of the military or 769 00:44:38.380 --> 00:44:39.699 Anna just says, this is enough. 770 00:44:39.820 --> 00:44:41.780 He chose each time to ignore it. 771 00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:46.860 I always say there are no crimes of passion, only 772 00:44:46.940 --> 00:44:51.800 crimes of possession. This is a highly controlling and abusive 773 00:44:51.900 --> 00:44:58.309 man who cannot face rejection. In Ali's mind, he is 774 00:44:58.369 --> 00:45:02.409 the victim. He has been betrayed. He had that change 775 00:45:02.449 --> 00:45:04.909 in thinking where he thought, well, I can no longer 776 00:45:04.989 --> 00:45:09.449 control her, so I'm going to kill her. This should 777 00:45:09.489 --> 00:45:13.780 never have escalated into homicide. It was very, very predictable. 778 00:45:15.059 --> 00:45:18.650 And that's what I find just so tragic about it. 779 00:45:21.250 --> 00:45:26.050 I hope that this case brings awareness about domestic violence 780 00:45:26.190 --> 00:45:30.739 to the community. We encourage abuse to be reported. The 781 00:45:30.780 --> 00:45:35.099 more that people are aware of domestic violence and the 782 00:45:35.179 --> 00:45:39.219 cycle of power and control, the more that we can 783 00:45:39.300 --> 00:45:42.719 help get victims away from that violence. and that these 784 00:45:42.780 --> 00:45:46.219 abusers get consequences and counseling so that it doesn't lead 785 00:45:46.260 --> 00:45:46.599 to murder. 786 00:45:50.619 --> 00:45:54.309 Ray and Anna didn't deserve this. They didn't deserve to 787 00:45:54.349 --> 00:45:57.590 be shot and killed over someone's jealousy and anger that 788 00:45:57.829 --> 00:45:58.650 he couldn't control. 789 00:46:00.829 --> 00:46:03.469 I think Anna and Ray should be remembered for who 790 00:46:03.530 --> 00:46:07.760 they were removing Ali from the situation. Ray needs to 791 00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:11.659 be remembered as that light, that ray of sunshine, you know? 792 00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:15.360 that person that is willing to help anyone who needs it. 793 00:46:16.659 --> 00:46:20.539 Anna brought joy anywhere that she went. She was funny, 794 00:46:21.139 --> 00:46:24.619 and she just gave you that space to be yourself, 795 00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:30.960 be weird, and really enjoy life and be in the present. 796 00:46:38.460 --> 00:46:39.219 Thank you.