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WEBVTT 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:02.319 Jeuce, we're back with another episode here. 00:00:02.640 --> 00:00:03.359 Yes, we are. 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:05.839 You know, I was disturbed yesterday. 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:08.000 I don't know how we're disturbed every day. 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:09.039 I am mentally disturbed. 00:00:09.119 --> 00:00:09.279 Yes. 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:10.400 And physically nowadays. 00:00:10.480 --> 00:00:10.800 Yes. 00:00:11.039 --> 00:00:13.759 I don't see how we made it out of World War 11 alive. 00:00:14.080 --> 00:00:16.000 Well, eight was the worst one. 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:17.280 Seven was a beast. 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:17.920 I was in that one. 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:18.320 Yeah. 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:19.600 I don't know, man. 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:21.039 World War Eleven. 00:00:21.839 --> 00:00:23.679 That was all scuba diving in. 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:24.399 What's her name? 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:25.600 The one that said it. 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:27.600 Ilian Omar. 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:33.200 Number one, just her face and that little thing she wears on her head pisses me off. 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:37.119 Her attitude, her arrogance when she doesn't need to have it. 00:00:37.679 --> 00:00:39.280 It just yeah. 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:42.159 Go to Somalia and open your mouth like you do here. 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:42.640 Yes. 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:44.719 No, go back to Somalia and stay there. 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:48.560 But if you do that, try to act like you do here, somebody's gonna strike you down. 00:00:48.880 --> 00:01:00.799 But that idiot goes out there and does a interview, and she talks about how Americans are dumbed down and you know the dumbing down of America, and it's just gotten so ridiculous. 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:03.679 It's hard to have an intellectual conversation. 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:07.200 That's why Donald Trump got elected again. 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:08.159 Okay. 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:12.239 Then she said, We'll get on there and say World War 11. 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:14.000 Man, I saw that. 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:15.760 I didn't know what the inner what she was talking about. 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:18.079 I just heard the World War 11 comments. 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:19.280 I seen it. 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:20.480 It was hysterical. 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:22.319 She's so stupid. 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:24.719 I know she faked that attack on her here a while back. 00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:25.200 Oh, yeah. 00:01:25.359 --> 00:01:26.799 That was all staged. 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:28.159 World War 11. 00:01:28.239 --> 00:01:32.239 So you are talking down to us and call yourself educated. 00:01:32.400 --> 00:01:32.719 Yes. 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:34.480 And you don't know Roman numeral two. 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:35.359 No. 00:01:35.599 --> 00:01:38.239 I'm not good with Roman numerals, but I can get to 10. 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:39.040 Yeah. 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:40.480 After that, I'm kind of lost. 00:01:40.879 --> 00:01:44.719 Well, you know, you just add a one on that X and you're at 11. 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:49.519 She had one one, World War II. 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:49.920 Yeah. 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:53.519 And if they typed it out, it was a capital I and a capital I. 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:54.560 Not 11. 00:01:54.799 --> 00:01:55.280 Yeah. 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:57.280 So Miss Intellectual. 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:00.719 Times New Romans, pretty obvious what an I and a one looks like. 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:01.120 Yeah. 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:04.959 So, but talking down to us, we're Trump supporters. 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:05.439 Yeah. 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:06.879 I know the difference. 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:09.680 I know Roman you're most two, I know what it means. 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:14.400 Well, we're we're not what they say is the typical Trump supporter. 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:15.039 Right. 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:17.439 You know, uh, we we're actually educated. 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:20.639 Are you and I both have degrees, multiple degrees. 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:22.960 I've read books, yes, a few things. 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:26.800 Now I talk about my high school career sometimes, how like luster it was. 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:28.800 Oh, mine was even below that. 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:30.560 I snapped out of it later in life. 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:31.199 Yeah. 00:02:31.520 --> 00:02:32.319 But yeah. 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:42.400 And realized hey, hard work, not just education, but you gotta combine it with smart decisions, hard work, and you can make it in America without somebody handing you something. 00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:44.400 Unless you're Ilian Omar. 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:46.319 No, she's been handed a lot of stuff. 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:49.120 Yeah, she's been handed everything, and she's still an idiot. 00:02:49.360 --> 00:02:51.039 Her brother handed her a marriage certificate. 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:51.919 Yes. 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:52.960 Is that real? 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:54.400 I've not looked into it a lot. 00:02:54.719 --> 00:02:55.360 Yes. 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:56.800 Yes. 00:02:57.759 --> 00:02:58.319 Oh my. 00:02:58.400 --> 00:02:59.680 And that's a representative. 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:01.919 And they talk bad about like the South. 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:02.800 That's congressional. 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:05.199 Marrying kissing your cousin and all that. 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:06.719 She's from Somalia. 00:03:06.800 --> 00:03:08.159 She married her own brother. 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:09.599 All right. 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:11.360 That's disturbing juice. 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:11.840 Yeah. 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:14.080 But yet she's a lawmaker now. 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:15.280 She's been there a while. 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:17.039 Somebody voted her in. 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:22.080 So I'm gonna go with those people who are even lower in intelligence than she is.

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00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:23.919 She was smart enough to get somebody to vote for her. 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:24.400 Yes. 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:26.080 Which is like a salesperson kind of thing. 00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:26.479 Yes. 00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:27.919 She's smart enough to do that. 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:29.599 And they were dumb enough to vote for her. 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:31.680 So that disturbs me. 00:03:31.840 --> 00:03:32.240 Yeah. 00:03:32.479 --> 00:03:33.919 I don't even have to hear her talk. 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:35.439 Just looking at her makes me angry. 00:03:36.080 --> 00:03:37.759 Why is she a representative? 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:38.960 She shouldn't be. 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:43.360 If you're not a natural born citizen, you shouldn't hold any political office. 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:44.159 That's not on the book. 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:44.879 That's just my opinion. 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:45.520 That's your opinion. 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:46.560 That's not on the books. 00:03:46.639 --> 00:03:49.199 But I just don't like the anti-American rhetoric. 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:50.080 Neither do I. 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:56.400 If it's good enough for you to be here and flourish and and prosper, shut your pie hole. 00:03:56.639 --> 00:03:57.199 Right. 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:00.000 And make laws that help people and not hurt people. 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:00.800 That's what she does. 00:04:01.039 --> 00:04:03.199 So but anyway, there's a bunch of them. 00:04:03.599 --> 00:04:04.159 Not just her. 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:04.719 Yeah. 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:08.479 She just happens to be the idiot that came up with World War 11 this week. 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:11.759 And she's on TV a lot, so or in the on social media a lot. 00:04:12.080 --> 00:04:13.039 Her and the squad. 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:13.919 Oh my God. 00:04:14.080 --> 00:04:15.039 Get out of here. 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:17.199 Let's get on to something before I start cussing juice. 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:17.680 All right. 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:18.000 All right. 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:19.199 Alex Murdoch. 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:21.759 So we're going to talk about him a little bit and digital clues. 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:26.480 We talk about digital clues on here sometimes, and you try to say like you're not a digital person. 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:27.360 I'm not. 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:30.000 I I am nowhere near the nerdy guy you are. 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:31.519 You struggle with email. 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:32.160 I do. 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:33.040 Those kind of things. 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:35.120 Email's been around for a while. 00:04:36.160 --> 00:04:40.560 Trying to think when '92, '91? 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:42.399 I remember in the Marines. 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:43.199 I was a young private. 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:44.800 Yeah, it had to be before that. 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:47.600 So 8089, I think. 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:49.680 I got a my first email. 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:50.240 Right. 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:55.519 I remember when I was a young private, they got the first computer hooked to the internet in the company office. 00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:56.240 Oh, yeah. 00:04:56.399 --> 00:04:59.920 And we would all go stand around and be and just watch people send emails back and forth. 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:00.160 Yeah. 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:01.439 We'd print them out and read them. 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:02.720 Like it was amazing. 00:05:02.800 --> 00:05:03.360 It was magic. 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:10.079 You know, I mean, it'd been around before that, but that was like the first use of it out in public, right? 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:10.480 Yeah. 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:12.160 And we had one computer. 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:12.720 Oh, yeah. 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:15.360 You had to get time on it to go send an email, you know, that kind of stuff. 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:16.560 On the ship was the same way. 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:17.600 They had three computers. 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:19.839 You'd stand in line to go send email and read email. 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:23.519 So our first computer in the company office we got from Dermo. 00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:24.319 Dermo. 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:24.800 Yeah. 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:30.959 And one of our guys, Calm Sargent, he was actually uh he was really nerdy at the time. 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:32.720 He uh got that thing to work. 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:34.399 Probably put a processor in there or something. 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:37.279 Yeah, I don't know what he did, but he was super nerdy. 00:05:37.439 --> 00:05:40.800 And like he would go in and you know the floppy disc games and stuff. 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:45.360 He would go in and change the code on them so you could just keep getting indefinite lives. 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:46.560 And he had some training in there. 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:47.439 Yeah. 00:05:47.759 --> 00:05:56.079 Well, in high school, the we had we in typing class, we still had the now that we had a word processor, it was a type electric typewriter, and it would beep at you when you misspelled something. 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:56.480 Oh, yeah. 00:05:56.639 --> 00:05:57.920 And you go to correct and go pop. 00:05:58.800 --> 00:05:59.839 You know, made the noise. 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:09.680 We didn't we had one computer in the whole school, and you took computer science class, they'd give you a lot of theory on the board, and then you went and played Oregon Trail. 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:10.720 You know, you didn't really learn a lot. 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:14.480 Our PE teacher was our comp side teacher in in high school. 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:19.839 He he was as dumb as the basketball he was playing with, taught us computer science. 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:20.879 He didn't have a clue. 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:21.360 Yeah. 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:27.120 Compute, so I've I've always been a computer nerd and uh tech nerd and

all that. 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:31.439 The I've trained, I kind of self-trained for a while and learned it. 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:39.279 Uh bought myself a Windows computer when I was a young Marine, and I would sit up late at night learning that code and how to do stuff on there. 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:39.759 Yeah. 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:42.879 And then that was the old what, MS-DOS. 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:46.959 No, dot well DOS is always DOS is the always the background of Windows. 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:47.360 Yes. 00:06:47.519 --> 00:06:50.160 That's the code in the background of Windows. 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:54.000 Windows is just the Yeah, Windows wasn't there when when we started. 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:54.319 Yeah. 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:57.279 Windows is just the operator interface, is what you see on the outside. 00:06:57.360 --> 00:07:00.560 But you had Fortran and Cobalt, which were MS DOS-based. 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:00.800 Yep. 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:03.839 Fortran was I think was business and Cobalt was more medical. 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:05.360 Yeah, formula translation. 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:06.399 I took courses in that. 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:09.439 Anyway, it was pretty it's pretty simple when you get down to it. 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:11.040 It's just another language, is all it is. 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:14.480 But those still run in the background of all these machines you see. 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:14.879 Oh, yeah. 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:15.199 Yeah. 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:17.279 You can reveal code and go, there it is, you know. 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:21.519 But uh and you get Python and some other languages now, which make it simpler. 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:22.160 Right. 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:24.480 But yeah, that's computer science. 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:25.439 How do we get onto that? 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:26.000 I don't know. 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:32.720 Talking about Murdaw and him getting busted, a smart lawyer, rich guy getting busted because of technology. 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:36.000 Let's remind everybody about Murdahl, what he's doing. 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:38.720 He's sitting in the jail right now, as they say on Andy Griffith. 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:40.000 So he's in the prison. 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:42.160 He's in a big house, yeah, South Carolina. 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:49.439 On June 7, 2021, Maggie and Paul Murdaw were shot and killed near the dog kennels at the family's Moselle property in South Carolina. 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:50.480 You know that area, right? 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:52.000 Yeah, I live down there. 00:07:52.319 --> 00:07:53.920 This is a that place is beautiful. 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:55.279 It's like a big ranch type of thing. 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:56.079 Oh, yeah. 00:07:56.319 --> 00:07:59.519 That's very affluent people are down that way. 00:07:59.839 --> 00:08:01.920 Wasn't he a uh personal injury attorney or yourself? 00:08:02.079 --> 00:08:03.120 Yeah, an attorney.

00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:03.279 Yeah. 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:04.160 Big attorney. 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:10.639 Alex Murdaw reported finding the bodies and claimed he had been napping and visiting his mother, denying he was at the kennels. 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:11.600 All right. 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:16.720 Investigators uncovered a tight digital timeline that contradicted his story. 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:22.639 The prosecution argued the murders were committed to delay exposure of his financial crimes and generate sympathy. 00:08:22.879 --> 00:08:28.879 On March 2023, a jury convicted him of two counts of murder and two weapons charges, and he received life without parole. 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:31.199 Which is shocking in South Carolina. 00:08:31.279 --> 00:08:32.639 They normally put him in the seat. 00:08:32.879 --> 00:08:39.519 Yeah, which is is weird because I've been up there for old Sparky and I worked on Death Row, and he should have been there. 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:41.279 He did not cooperate at all with this either. 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:42.080 He said he'd be guilty. 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:43.759 He still says he's not guilty right now. 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:45.679 So he may not be, I don't know. 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:47.919 Yeah, oh, he's guilty. 00:08:48.240 --> 00:08:50.159 So Paul is the son, right? 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:51.279 Let's see here. 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:53.679 Yeah, Paul's the son. 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:57.759 So they found video recorded on Paul's phone minutes before the murders happened. 00:08:58.080 --> 00:08:58.399 All right. 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:01.039 They captured Alex's voice at the Kennels. 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:01.519 Yes. 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:04.559 Which he says it wasn't, it wasn't his voice, it was the killer's voice. 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:05.200 Yes. 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:09.519 But they had many people come up and say, Yes, this is him, you know. 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:12.320 And he had repeatedly said he was never there. 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:15.120 This directly proved he lied about his location at the time of the murders. 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:17.519 Now they got down in what we call micro-locating. 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:18.080 Right. 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:22.000 So we use our phones and we use GPS trackers and all these things. 00:09:22.320 --> 00:09:26.960 The GPS trackers we use, and our phones can say, hey, they're good up to about a hundred yards or whatever. 00:09:27.039 --> 00:09:27.519 Yeah. 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:30.720 But they got into some some of his text messaging apps and all that. 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:31.840 It got down to the foot. 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:33.200 And so he was there, man. 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:33.759 He was right there. 00:09:34.159 --> 00:09:34.559 Oh yeah. 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:38.480 And of course they came out and said, Oh, this is flawed evidence and all that, but that's what got him. 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:38.879 Right? 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:41.440 Yeah, you can say it's flawed, but it's there. 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:42.159 Right. 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:43.919 Let's talk about the phone data. 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:48.159 It showed minimal movement and then a sudden spike in steps right after the murders. 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:48.799 Right. 00:09:49.039 --> 00:09:53.759 And they were going off also his smartwatch, which had his heart rate data on it. 00:09:53.919 --> 00:09:54.240 Oh yeah. 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:56.320 They did a bunch of things happen here. 00:09:56.559 --> 00:10:00.159 Activity consistent with rapid movement and possible staging and cleanup. 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:00.960 All right. 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:04.799 Screen use and orientation changes supported his timeline of where he was. 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:05.360 All right. 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:08.879 Then he had calls and text messages, the old goodie, the old classic. 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:13.919 Calls placed Maggie and Paul after they were already dead, or placed them there. 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:16.960 Increased communication right after the estimated time of death. 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:19.440 Timing suggested attempts to create an alibi. 00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:22.159 Pattern looked staged rather than natural. 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:22.960 All right. 00:10:23.759 --> 00:10:27.039 He had some vehicle telematics, your vehicle computer, right? 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:27.440 Yep. 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:31.919 His shaping suburban recorded engine start and stop time, speed changes, and trip duration. 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:34.879 Showed quick departure from Moselle right after. 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:35.440 All right. 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:38.000 Travel timeline inconsistent with his statements. 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:41.120 So he was there, left Moselle, and then came back later. 00:10:41.279 --> 00:10:42.080 So all right. 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:43.360 But he wasn't there at the time. 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:45.039 He said he was at his mother's house. 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:47.120 Oh, maybe he lied. 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:47.919 All right. 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:50.320 Yeah, timeline fusion, which brings everything together. 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:55.519 Investigators aligned phone data, vehicle data, and witness statements in a minute by minute reconstructed. 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:56.639 Very good. 00:10:56.799 --> 00:10:57.759 I like it. 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:02.559 And the points that put him at the kennels at the time of the murders, and then he lied through his teeth. 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:04.320 They caught him in so many lies afterwards. 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:06.720 So the police did a good job on this one, in my opinion. 00:11:06.960 --> 00:11:07.679 Oh, yeah. 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:12.879 This is one of those two where the public was like, oh, the police ain't doing their job because it took a while. 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:14.559 It's not an instant thing, man. 00:11:14.799 -->

00:11:15.120 It's not. 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:20.720 And some of that stuff, you know, when you're you're doing a digital dump, it takes a while. 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:23.120 And then you have to sort through everything. 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:24.960 So we do a digital dump. 00:11:25.120 --> 00:11:29.519 One cell phone is four to six thousand pages of data. 00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:35.120 And another issue they had, the son's phone was not unlocked immediately. 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:36.799 They had to get some help to get it unlocked. 00:11:36.879 --> 00:11:38.399 So that takes time too. 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:44.639 And they thought and the voice on that recording, they everybody said, Hey, this is Alex talking. 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:48.720 You could have had that analyzed, I mean, honestly, if you if you really wanted to. 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:49.120 Right. 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:51.279 But there's people that ID'd that voice. 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:51.840 Right. 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:54.720 And the jury they convicted not on one single piece. 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:57.600 A single piece of evidence doesn't usually convict somebody. 00:11:57.840 --> 00:11:58.000 No. 00:11:58.240 --> 00:11:59.679 What do you what's your favorite phrase? 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:01.440 Totality of the circumstances. 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:02.240 Yeah, right. 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:07.679 One, you know, it's the physical evidence, digital evidence, and witnesses that tie it all together. 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:14.559 But the biggest thing in cases people don't understand or it's it's because you don't see it. 00:12:14.720 --> 00:12:19.759 Okay, yeah, SVU on TV, they did this and they got the guy in 48 hours. 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:21.039 That's not the way it works. 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:22.080 You're building your case. 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:24.080 You want as much evidence as possible. 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:33.679 You want to fine-tooth comb every bit of anything that could be a lead, could be a witness, could be evidence. 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:39.600 So you want to make sure that you have a preponderance of evidence against that individual. 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:39.919 Right. 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:41.200 And it it takes time. 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:41.840 Yeah. 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:42.639 You take time. 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:44.720 You're getting data from all these different sources. 00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:45.440 Yeah. 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:49.279 You got your uniforms that were there first, or you do the first responders, right? 00:12:49.360 --> 00:12:49.519 Yep. 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:52.399 And then you got your detectives and you got your all time. 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:57.840 You got the body, you got the scene, and you got what was the word we use? 00:12:58.639 --> 00:12:59.759 Environmental. 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:02.080 What was the word I use? 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:03.600 The phrase I used very smart. 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:04.480 It was

good. 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:06.879 Environmental timeline. 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:09.679 What's the what's the when they when you got the FBI? 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:10.960 Environmental profiling. 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:11.519 There you go. 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:12.559 That's what this was. 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:20.639 What where the crime took place and the relationship from the criminal to the crime scene. 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:21.200 That's what they do. 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:21.840 Oh yeah. 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:22.080 Yeah. 00:13:22.320 --> 00:13:28.720 They use it a lot in the um serial killers because they're usually spread across an area and they're trying to pinpoint where their base of operations is. 00:13:29.039 --> 00:13:29.200 Right. 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:31.200 And you gotta have a lot of data to do that. 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:36.639 But this guy, he was he was lying and saying I wasn't there, but then all the data points to yeah, you're standing right there, dude. 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:37.279 Yeah. 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:40.720 You may be an an intelligent individual. 00:13:40.879 --> 00:13:44.720 Like he, you know, he's an attorney and he specializes. 00:13:44.879 --> 00:13:48.559 So in his specialty, I'm sure he's very knowledgeable, very intelligent. 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:52.399 But when it comes to everything else, you're not the expert. 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:54.080 You're gonna screw everything up. 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:54.559 Right. 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:58.159 Somewhere along the way, you're gonna get caught. 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:06.639 These digital computers we carry in our pockets are are cutting down on the amount of crimes that helping people get caught. 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:07.039 Yeah. 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:07.519 Yeah. 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:12.480 I mean, so I think that's why we see a reduction in serial killers because of the digital footprint. 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:12.799 Right. 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:13.360 It's rough. 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:19.519 It makes it tough to be a prolific, we're gonna kill 32 people over four years type person, like we used to see. 00:14:19.679 --> 00:14:20.320 You know what I mean? 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:22.960 And they they they are serial killers, they're just getting caught quicker. 00:14:23.039 --> 00:14:23.120 Right. 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:24.559 Well, like we've said it before. 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:35.679 I know I have, you know, from working for for NASA, these these little pocket computers, these have more intelligence and technology than what put the man on the moon. 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:36.080 Right. 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:36.399 Yeah. 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:39.200 What what do you think you're gonna get away with with something like that? 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:43.120 Yeah, Steve Jobs said that about the iPod before they started making phone calls. 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:49.600 You know, uh iPod had a lot of you could do a lot with an iPod, and then

they put a phone system on it and made it a phone, right? 00:14:49.759 --> 00:14:50.720 That's what we got. 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:56.559 But yeah, man, Merdal, you know, he lied through his teeth over and over again, said he didn't do it. 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:57.679 He's still saying he didn't do it. 00:14:57.919 --> 00:15:01.279 Well, that's the attorney behind him, that that knowledge that he has. 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:08.559 If you keep putting it off, putting it off, deny, deny, deny, counteracuse, maybe you get somebody to listen to you, believe you. 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:11.919 You just, you know, need one juror to say nope. 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:13.919 I think he's got an appeal coming up or something. 00:15:14.159 --> 00:15:14.879 Oh, yeah. 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:20.799 But so he was trying to make people feel sorry for him because he is in financial distress. 00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:23.279 Well, you know, he was stealing from his clients. 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:23.759 All right. 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:24.960 How was he doing that? 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:26.960 He was billing them out. 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:29.840 Hey, this is what you owe, this is what you owe, this is what I did. 00:15:29.919 --> 00:15:32.159 This is you know, I need this money, I need that money. 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:33.279 But he wasn't doing the work. 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:34.240 He wasn't. 00:15:34.480 --> 00:15:38.960 Uh yeah, and um, I think he was a uh personal injury attorney as well. 00:15:39.200 --> 00:15:43.279 And I think somebody in his firm caught him, caught on to him. 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:44.559 He was getting ready to get fired, basically. 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:45.039 Oh, yeah. 00:15:45.120 --> 00:15:47.120 They were getting ready to drop the hammer on him, right? 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:48.960 You know, no longer a partner and all that stuff. 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:49.279 Yeah. 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:53.039 He did a lot of crying on the in the witness and the police. 00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:54.720 Yeah, alligator tears. 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:59.919 Another thing he did that's very arrogant, he walked in there several times with investigators in the room. 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.080 Yeah, he thought he was smarter than they were. 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:04.720 And talk to him, right? 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:09.039 Now, what would he tell if he had a crime a criminal, a person being accused of a crime? 00:16:09.200 --> 00:16:10.720 What's the first thing he would tell them? 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:14.720 There's a lot of things that go through their minds. 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:15.120 Yeah. 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:22.879 But he would be like, Oh, I want to help you guys, you know, I didn't do it, and then start offering them false leads. 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:25.679 But it it's just it's weird. 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:28.480 But if you had a client in that situation, you say stop talking to the cops. 00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:29.279 Yeah, absolutely. 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:31.279 But he thought he's smart on everybody. 00:16:31.519 --> 00:16:33.759 He just wanted to talk when he got there and gave him all kinds of info. 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:35.679 He thought he could talk his way out of it, didn't he? 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:38.000 So and you you you you really can't. 00:16:38.159 --> 00:16:43.120 And any of the investigators take basic classes and what they call statement analysis. 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:52.399 And it it it doesn't say you're lying, but it gives the investigator a tool to use on what you say. 00:16:52.879 --> 00:17:04.640 You have to have statement balance with with certain nouns and verbs, and but in statement analysis, it just gives you deception markers. 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:07.440 They uh lead you down the road of questioning. 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:16.480 Doesn't say you're lying, but it leads you down other roads because it it it will tell you that person is answering deceptively, right? 00:17:16.960 --> 00:17:27.440 So I mean any of the the investigators in that case, they they could have taken those classes and and your your main line of questioning starts there. 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:30.160 But he just started talking. 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:30.799 Yeah. 00:17:31.279 --> 00:17:32.799 I I took a class in that. 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:34.480 Most a lot of us have, right? 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:36.559 It's not and it's not a difficult thing. 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:44.240 It's a you're breaking down the w what they're saying and you're and you're putting it down in bite-sized chunks and you're comparing them to each other. 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:44.720 Yep. 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:49.279 And a lot of them stand out, like, well, you know, yesterday you said this, today you're saying this. 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:53.039 You know, you you explain themselves and they lie again and then they do it again. 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:57.200 But you're just breaking it down into bite-sized chunks and comparing words and statements. 00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:06.400 And um I mean you can record it and then transcribe it and run it through software that does the statement analysis for you. 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:07.440 Yep, they got it now. 00:18:07.519 --> 00:18:08.880 It breaks it down and you're going, okay. 00:18:09.279 --> 00:18:10.000 It's a great tool. 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:24.079 And it gives you and you have to do it quick sometimes because you're setting nose to nose with them, but yeah, it can give you data to to the next question to ask, the next set of questions to ask to make them live and more that's that comes more with the experience. 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:25.200 Yeah. 00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:30.000 The best technique I've ever seen is if they want to talk, I'm gonna sit here and let you talk, man. 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:32.079 And always ask open-ended questions. 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:33.039 Yep. 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:35.200 But I guess you know why I'm

here. 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:37.200 That's an old trick. 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:39.279 Yeah, never give them a yes or no. 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:43.839 Always give them an open-ended question so that way they can elaborate. 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:47.519 When they whenever they volunteer to come, they say, Yeah, I'll come talk to you. 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:48.880 That's a sign, right? 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:49.279 Oh, yeah. 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:52.799 And always say, Hey, tell me what your thoughts are on this. 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:54.240 And just sit back. 00:18:54.480 --> 00:18:54.880 Oh, yeah. 00:18:55.039 --> 00:18:56.559 And they start spewing vomit. 00:18:56.799 --> 00:18:57.039 Yeah. 00:18:57.279 --> 00:18:59.599 Lies, truths, a little bit of both, right? 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:01.599 And uh, and that gives you directions. 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:02.799 So tell me more about this. 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:03.839 Tell me more about that. 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:05.440 And that's what they did at Murdoch here. 00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:08.559 And it was he talked to them for a long time before they arrested arrested. 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:10.799 And they they just baited him and he went for it. 00:19:11.279 --> 00:19:17.519 So he is an intelligent individual, he's just not that intelligent when it comes to things outside of his wheelhouse. 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:18.400 He got cocky. 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:22.079 Our lawyer's cocky. 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:22.799 Yes. 00:19:23.440 --> 00:19:23.839 Yes. 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:26.240 I I wouldn't say you're a good lawyer if you're not a little bit, right? 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:28.640 Yeah, you have to have an ego to be a good attorney. 00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:29.039 Yeah. 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:31.680 Some of them control it and are approachable people, some aren't. 00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:32.319 Some of them are. 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:33.839 I can't stand to be risked. 00:19:35.599 --> 00:19:38.960 But all right, do you see anything else on the Murdoch? 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:40.559 No. 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:42.400 How about statement analysis? 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:51.119 It's it's if if you're an investigator, I don't care if you're a private investigator, I don't care if you're in a law enforcement agency, I don't care if you're a patrol officer. 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:55.119 Find out who's offering statement analysis courses. 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:56.559 There's three levels. 00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:57.680 Get them all. 00:19:58.079 --> 00:20:00.559 Because it's just a tool that you're going to be able to use. 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:02.880 It's going to make you better, more proficient. 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:04.799 It's going to help your cases. 00:20:05.039 --> 00:20:06.400 Definitely take classes. 00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:09.039 Don't ever quit learning any of that stuff. 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:09.680 Right. 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:10.319 Okay. 00:20:10.880 --> 00:20:11.599 All right then. 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:12.720 We're going to get off here for now. 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:14.000 We'll be back soon. 00:20:14.240 --> 00:20:15.039 Say bye, juice. 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:15.759 Bye, juice. 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:16.240 Nice.

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