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of punishing me for the way that I was acting, I got the same treatment, you know, uh physical abuse, verbal abuse, whatever it was in that moment, right? 00:02:03.680 --> 00:02:08.719 So I grew up an angry kid with a lot of with a lot of issues in there and I was always violent. 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:17.439 And um I guess when I was about 13 I had a big blow up with my dad and I he told me to leave and not come back, so that that was the end of that, right? 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:24.719 And I and I left and I I mean I reached out to my dad a few times over the years, but even to this day I haven't spoken with him for over five years. 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:29.919 And uh so I moved in with my mom, and my mom was a single mother with three kids. 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:36.800 Uh she, you know, she was working hard to try to provide for us, but while she was working hard, I was working hard to get into trouble. 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:43.039 So I was running the streets at night, I was spray painting stuff, I was, you know, started smoking weed with these group of kids. 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:45.680 We were always sneaking out, we were we were up to no good. 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:52.719 And uh my mom said to me when I was around 15, she said, if you're gonna continue to act like this, then you can go back to your dad's. 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:56.080 And I said, I'd rather live on the streets than go back to living there. 00:02:56.560 --> 00:02:58.319 And so that's what ended up happening. 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:03.599 So by the time I was fifteen, I was living on the streets, I would stay at friends' houses, sleeping on couches. 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:20.400 Uh I would get up and go to school in the morning, and then I I at 3 30 when I was done, I would go work at this place called the walkbox, and I'd go up there and I'd wash dishes till midnight, and then at midnight I would leave from there and I would walk to this place called uh Saddleback in Peace River, Alberta. 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:25.919 And I'd stay with a buddy of mine there, and I would go to school, and and this would go on for about a year's time. 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:29.199 And uh during that time, like we were dabbling with different types of drugs. 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:34.479 You know, we were trying mushrooms, acid, smoking weed all the time, constantly. 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:37.759 A buddy of mine, his mom took me in. 00:03:37.919 --> 00:03:39.280 It was just a regular family. 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:40.800 We were always getting in trouble, right? 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:50.000 We'd leave the house and we go down to like the trailer parks where all the organized crime was happening, all the drug use was happening, where it was just like they were just like party trailers, right? 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:51.439 Or trap houses, right? 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:55.680 And then and people were partying there, drinking all night, doing drugs, all that kind of stuff, right? 00:03:55.759 --> 00:04:01.599 So this is these are the places we'd be all night, and then we would come and we would crash back out, whatever, right? 00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:05.680 At uh at his parents' place and get up, and you know, that's what our weekends would look like. 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:18.319 So it was just like during the week, I was still going to school, I was still working, but uh when uh the weekends would come, we would go down to these trap houses and party houses in the trailer parks and we would do drugs and just get wild and have fun. 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:20.000 There was no no worries at all? 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:21.439 No worries at all at that time. 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:24.720 It was just getting it getting into that community was actually this night. 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:37.360 I was out in the trailer park, and I was like I think I was about 16 at the time, and I was up at this trailer park party and drinking and stuff, and this older guy he was in his 30s, and he like he confronts me and he wants to fight me. 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:39.600 And like I didn't know everybody that was there. 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:42.560 I knew a couple of the people that were there, but I didn't know everybody. 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:47.199 And this 30-year-old came up to me and he he tried acting tough and tried tried to fight me. 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:56.879 So I I ended up hitting him and punching him, and uh I knocked him out and he urinated himself and he crapped himself right instantly, right there in that moment. 00:04:57.120 --> 00:05:05.279 And there was a guy that was there in the room with me who was associated with uh organized crime, and he took me under his wing after that. 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:06.319 He said, I like you, kid. 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:07.680 He said, Come hang out with me. 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:16.720 So we I ended up, you know, coming underneath this guy who was a high-ranking member, and I ended up following him around for a few years. 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:22.000 He ended up teaching me about scales and drugs and guns and all different kinds of stuff at that time. 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:24.399 So I'm like 17 years old at this time. 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:26.560 I'll tell this a little bit of a quick story. 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:36.480 We went we went to Edmonton to go and get some things, and we went and we're driving back, and he told me to look inside this duffel bag, and I look in this duffel bag and it's it's full of narcotics. 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:42.480 And he said, I want you to reach inside the front, and there was a little front pouch and a back pouch on a duffel bag, and he's like, Put your hand in there. 00:05:42.639 --> 00:05:44.959 So I put my hand in, I felt like this cloth. 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:49.279 And I pull this thing out, and it was a 35 cal pistol, and he said, This is for you. 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:51.759 And I said, What do you want me to do with this little peach

shooter? 00:05:51.839 --> 00:05:53.199 And he's like, I want a 45. 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:55.519 He's like, You want to start with this thing first? 00:05:55.680 --> 00:06:03.680 So I ended up having this little hooker boot pistol, you know, that go inside the boot, 35 cal, you know, 16, turning, 17 years old, right? 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:05.360 On the scene and doing my thing. 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:08.079 So it's like that's kind of how I got initiated into it. 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:12.160 And it was like, I always had a safe place with these guys, I always had protection with these guys. 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:13.839 You know, I had everything that I needed. 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:17.920 I had cars, I had drugs, I had money, I had I had everything that I needed with them. 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:30.959 So it like fueled this uh desire and this like this wanting to strive in this environment because I'm moving up quickly and and I'm starting to make ground, I guess. 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:48.399 So that that would lead up for a few more years, and then there was a falling out between me and that gentleman, and at that time I had made enough uh connections with enough people in high places that I could go do my own thing, and I had all the credentials and all the respect that I needed to to do that. 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:57.360 So I at that time in my life I ended up moving to a different place in in Alberta and uh I ended up meeting up with some other guys, and we ended up doing something. 00:06:57.439 --> 00:07:03.600 We put a bunch of guys together who were all independents and we started doing our thing, but we were backed by some serious people. 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:06.560 So we ended up doing that during that time. 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:19.040 Like there was a lot of stuff that happened, like you know, there was uh there was murder, there was extortion, there there was robberies, you know, there was there was a lot of schemes, there was carjackings, there was there was so much stuff going on, right? 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:28.160 And it was like I went from this 17-year-old kid to this, you know, 21-year-old kid who's now fully into organized crime, and that's all I do for a living. 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:30.639 And there's rackets of stuff going on, you know. 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:34.639 I'm on a do-not detain list, so the police aren't even bothering me. 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:46.639 I'm driving around with a non-insured, non-registered vehicle, flying around with with guns and drugs and doing my thing, and they they're not even bothering me because they're trying to catch me on something bigger than just driving around in a vehicle without insurance. 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:48.560 So tell me about a do-not detain. 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:52.879 For anyone who might not know, like what I mean that sounds obvious, but like how do you end up on that? 00:07:53.120 --> 00:08:01.279 So on a do-not detain list, it's like so them dri so me driving around without an insured and registered vehicle would maybe land me like six months in jail. 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:14.800 But because of like the robberies and murder and extortion, kidnapping, robbery, all this stuff that was going on, if they could catch me on something like that instead of driving around without insurance, they could they could put me in jail for three years, two, two plus. 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:17.040 You know, I could catch a federal sentence on it. 00:08:17.120 --> 00:08:20.879 So they weren't worried about me driving around in a vehicle that was not registered and insured. 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:27.120 They were they were building a case against me so that they could they could get me big and then I could be locked up for a long period of time. 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:35.120 It's interesting how that that that level of of uh power uh shields you even from the law in some cases. 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:35.919 Yes. 00:08:36.080 --> 00:08:37.360 That's that's something to think about. 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:38.080 For sure. 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:49.679 And and like we had talked a little bit before about I'll share on that, is just you know, there was a murder that happened within the community, and uh the Edmonton Serious Crime Division came down and they got vehicles full of detectives, right? 00:08:49.759 --> 00:08:59.519 And they they come down, they have two SUVs, they have the gang units with them, you know, they're coming to investigate me, and I'm sitting inside these things in handcuffs, and they're and they're having conversations with me, right? 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:03.519 And they're like, Jordan, we know that you you have control of what goes on in this area. 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:08.159 We know who you are around here, and we know that nothing goes on without you knowing about it. 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:17.440 So we need to know is this something that is involved with organized crime, or do we have somebody that's a loose cannon out here hurting people? 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:20.000 He said, We need to know so we can finish this, right? 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:22.559 So it's like they weren't they weren't too concerned. 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:26.159 They the only thing they were concerned about is somebody that was a loose cannon running around. 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:30.480 They knew if this was organized crime that they were just gonna wipe their hands of it and leave it. 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:33.919 Wow, that's so they they were worried that this was a serial killer. 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:34.480 Yeah, that's true. 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:39.440 But if this wasn't a serial killer, if this was your business, yeah, they weren't gonna mess around, they weren't gonna bother. 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:40.240 Yeah. 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:42.159 How did that make you feel? 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:47.519 Uh I guess, you know, I remember sitting in there and I had like there's just this evil smirk on my face,

right? 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:51.279 I just there was a point where you just knew that you weren't you nobody could touch you. 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:57.200 And if you you were smart enough, if you were smart enough to outsmart them, then they didn't they didn't even bother trying. 00:09:57.440 --> 00:09:59.039 Because they they knew you were 10 steps ahead. 00:09:59.120 --> 00:10:01.039 And it was something I always used to say in my old life. 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:03.600 If you're not 10 steps ahead, you're already two steps behind. 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:04.879 That's what I always used to say. 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:16.639 So would you would you say then that that even even though like obviously your your activities and the decisions you're making and the power you had were were wreaking havoc on the broader community. 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:20.559 Would you say that in a way that you were keeping it more safe than it could have been? 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:23.759 Uh yeah, I think that in a certain sense there was, right? 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:26.480 Because the rank that I had was a of a higher ranking. 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:29.679 I wasn't the highest ranking, but I was a higher ranking member. 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:32.639 So it's like there was people that were below me that were loose cannons. 00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:36.639 So they were like they'd be running around just doing stuff just just to do it, right? 00:10:36.799 --> 00:10:40.399 To hurt people just to do it, to cause, you know, terror just to do it. 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:44.639 You know, so it's just like for for them to do anything, it had to come through me. 00:10:44.879 --> 00:10:50.000 If there was anything that wanted to be done within the community, if it wasn't approved by me, then then I'm on you. 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:57.039 You know, and I was a guy who, you know, at this time I've already been four or five years, six years into doing this, right? 00:10:57.120 --> 00:10:59.600 So it's like I'm not new to this and I know how to do business. 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:03.120 So a lot of guys, they're like, yo, this guy's causing a problem with me. 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:05.440 I I need to, you know, I want to handle this. 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:06.720 How do I go about this? 00:11:06.879 --> 00:11:07.120 Right? 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:08.320 It was like brought up to me. 00:11:08.399 --> 00:11:10.159 And it was the same thing when I was in jail, right? 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:13.440 Because it's like when you're in incarceration, there's heavies on a unit. 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:21.840 There's people who have respect and who have the credentials inside of the community that if you don't have approval from certain people, you're gonna find yourself in deep water. 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:25.759 So and and like what's going on inside of you during during this time? 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:29.440 Like, is there any is there any clarity of spirit happening at this time? 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:38.799 You know, like you said, like you in some ways you were reducing harm, in some ways you were offering mentorship so that people could conduct business without hurting innocent people unnecessarily, right? 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:39.200 Yeah. 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:44.559 So like was there a certain uh feeling of like righteousness, like maybe you're this isn't all bad? 00:11:44.879 --> 00:11:53.919 Uh I don't know, because I was like so consumed by like just like the power and I guess money and everything that I really didn't care. 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:55.519 I was on a war path too. 00:11:55.679 --> 00:12:05.759 So it's just like there was like certain things to me that just weren't worth it, but there are also things that it was like, you know, I have to make a point, I have to make an example out of things, even if things get a little bit out of hand. 00:12:06.159 --> 00:12:14.720 You know, so it was like at that point, it was like I think I was truly ruled by something we talked about a little bit earlier, is like, you know, that spirit of murder. 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:23.279 Because it was like when it when it came down to it, it was like that that was inside of me, and it was like it was the smallest thing that would stir that up inside of me. 00:12:23.600 --> 00:12:35.360 So the point I wanted to do terrible things to people that and it was so minuscule, it was so tiny, you know, it it didn't even really matter, like looking back on it now, it's just like I w I wouldn't even be upset about something like that now. 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:36.000 Yeah. 00:12:36.240 --> 00:12:40.159 Um you mentioned like you were at war, like what are you at war with? 00:12:40.559 --> 00:12:54.399 Um, so I guess like I was literally at war with myself because there was a time like you know in my childhood where you know when you're I guess being abused, it's like there's like this piece of hopelessness, right? 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:58.639 Or this uh this piece of like you know helplessness. 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:01.279 You can't do anything to stop what's happening to you. 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:06.480 So it was like I was at war with myself and like I always used to say I had a death wish, right? 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:13.919 And like doing the things that I was doing with the people I was with at that age is like you're there's something not right up top. 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:27.120 I remember there was like a time when I I was younger, it was like I would I'd say I'd never want to be in a spot where somebody could ever hurt me again, so I'm gonna be one of the baddest dudes that people ever get to know. 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:30.159 And that was something that I was on a war path to do. 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:38.879 It was just like I had something to prove, and that pride and you know that evil that was inside of me fueled fueled that war. 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:51.279 I guess yeah, there we did have some rivals with

some guys who were, you know, doing things in the same areas as us, and like, you know, a buddy of mine, he's driving around one day and they pull up and they just Where is this? 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:54.080 This is in Alberta in Fishing Lake Alberta. 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:54.320 Okay. 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:56.879 And we're and we're like this is a reservation, right? 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:03.519 So we're out there and buddy comes and pulls up and machine guns the side of the vehicle and it and he's in it, right? 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:05.919 So then it's just like it's on now. 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:07.600 Like these guys want to go, it's on. 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:12.159 So then, you know, people start people start dying, right? 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:21.200 And you know, we there's helicopters coming, there's you know, they're shutting the reservation down, they have everything locked down, shootouts are happening, like it it was war. 00:14:21.440 --> 00:14:24.320 It was literally at war, and you know, it didn't stop there. 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:32.480 So after all that had happened, you know, my buddy's at home with his family and his kids, and like when it came to organized crime, we leave that, we leave that out of it. 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:36.080 We family, children, women, that stays out of it. 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:37.840 That's just that's just the code. 00:14:38.159 --> 00:14:43.519 And these guys pulled up and machine gunned his house with his kids in there, bullets flying through his through his house. 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:44.720 He has three kids. 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:49.600 You know, so it's like now now it's time to now it's time to make something happen. 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:51.440 Like we have to answer for this, right? 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:55.919 So we we answer for it and you know everything went the way that it did. 00:14:56.080 --> 00:14:59.360 But it was like, yeah, it it's just part of the game. 00:14:59.600 --> 00:15:10.159 When you're when you're in that level, people when people see you making that much money and having that much power and doing doing what you're doing, it's like somebody's gonna think they can come and stop you. 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:13.360 But you've had some really powerful spiritual experiences. 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:19.600 Like when when was the first time that you that you noticed like, hey, maybe this is demonic. 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:34.559 You know, I guess I didn't really see till hindsight, to be honest with you, like, you know, because I was just like I guess the devil was playing tricks with me, right, with my mind, and it was just like, you know, I I had this excuse in my mind, it was like that's what I had to do to survive. 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:36.720 This is the situation that I was put in. 00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:39.279 I was thrown to the wolves as a young kid. 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:43.120 A few years goes by and I'm like really getting addicted to drugs. 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:44.000 I lost my son. 00:15:44.159 --> 00:16:01.120 My son um like in a custody battle to his mom, I was locked up, and they she took full custody of my son while I was in incarceration, and that was a really that was a low for me because I had it in my mind and I was like, I ain't gonna I ain't gonna be the same person my dad was to me when growing up. 00:16:01.279 --> 00:16:04.879 I ain't gonna leave my son, I ain't gonna abandon him, I ain't gonna do these things. 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:07.120 And it came around full circle to me. 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:07.600 Right? 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:15.840 I I'm locked up and now my son's living with his mom and she moves across the country and I hit an all-time low in my in my life. 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:26.000 So at this time, like I guess I wasn't I was using like crack cocaine and cocaine occasionally, but I wasn't like I it wasn't an everyday use. 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:28.639 I was more focused on the life, yeah. 00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:30.799 And I lost my son to the custody battle. 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:33.200 I hit an all-time low, and I remember going to my buddy's place. 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:42.879 I remember walking into the house and they're sitting there spinning this little uh this little glass little tube with a ball on the end of it and having the lighter on the bottom of it. 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:44.639 I'm like, yo, what are you guys doing? 00:16:44.799 --> 00:16:46.799 And he's like, bro, we're smoking pint. 00:16:46.960 --> 00:16:48.559 And I was like, Pint, what is pint? 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:49.759 He's like, meth bro. 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:51.279 I'm like, you know, let me try that. 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:53.120 And he's like, bro, you you don't want any of this. 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:56.159 And I'm like, yeah, bro, give me that right now, I'm not gonna ask you again. 00:16:56.480 --> 00:16:57.600 And he's like, okay, here. 00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:01.200 So he gives it to me and I end up smoking it, and he was right. 00:17:01.360 --> 00:17:03.600 It was like it took away every bad feeling I had. 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:04.559 It was gone. 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:13.519 And the next two years of my life just became like this crazy downhill just head first smash into the ground. 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:17.599 And you know, it came with losing everything first and my health. 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:30.799 I was down to like 140 some pounds, you know, just skin and bones, running around stealing bottles from people's backyards and bikes and just you were talking about like you're on top of the world, like the cops weren't even messing with you. 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:31.440 Yeah, right. 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:36.880 And now suddenly it was just it happened the way you described it, it happened so fast, like, oh now I'm stealing bottles. 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:39.440 Like, yeah, can you can you unpack that just a little bit more? 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Yeah, for sure. 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:42.960 So I was like, uh at that time in my life, right? 00:17:43.119 --> 00:17:53.359 Like when I was on my high, it was like I was still coming in and out of jail, and like when I would come out, a buddy of mine would come meet me and be like, Here, here's a 10 pack, you're good to go, you know, do your thing. 00:17:53.440 --> 00:18:07.599 Here's here's a pistol, here's a a pistol grip AK, here's a s here's a shotgun, whatever, whatever I needed when I got out, you know, and we were partners together, and he would just I was doing time and I'd come out and I just it was instantly going back to work. 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:14.319 So it was like this time that I came out, I this one time I came out, I just I ended up just doing all the drugs. 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:16.799 And I was in in debt bad. 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:23.359 And it was like, you know, I some stuff happened, somebody ended up dying, and I ended up trying to leave. 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:24.559 And I did leave. 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:28.160 I took off to a different province and I stayed in a different province for a certain time. 00:18:28.720 --> 00:18:34.799 When I came back, I uh I came back and they arrested me and I ended up doing some time. 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:39.359 So I I ended up doing the the six months and I ended up coming back. 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:48.720 When I came back, it was like I owed so much money that that they were like, no, we're y you need to figure out a way to make some money to come back from this. 00:18:48.799 --> 00:19:06.559 Like we're not, you know, you've lost a lot of product and all this stuff, and you know, everything started crashing down and at this time like a lot of the um I guess a lot of the customers were like they were afraid to come and deal with us because of everything that was going on. 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:14.079 And it was like uh people were like, no, we don't want to support these guys anymore, we don't want anything to do with these guys anymore. 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:17.119 Like, you know, innocent people are getting killed at this point. 00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:19.279 And like that had nothing to do with my doing. 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:23.680 It was while I was gone away, but when I came back, it was just like it was a ghost town all of a sudden. 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:26.880 Nobody was buying nothing, and nobody wanted anything to do with me. 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:28.799 So then I'm like, okay. 00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:31.119 Because your crew went off the chain? 00:19:31.359 --> 00:19:36.559 Yeah, because everybody let loose while I was gone, and then there was a mess to clean up when we got back when I got back. 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:38.640 That sounds like what we were talking about earlier. 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:44.160 Yeah, and that's exactly what happened, and nobody wanted anything to do with me or anything with what I was doing, right? 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:51.680 Because at that time I I kept organized crime with organized crime, and I did it didn't affect the the average person. 00:19:51.920 --> 00:19:53.359 It had nothing to do with them. 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:53.839 Right? 00:19:53.920 --> 00:19:59.119 We weren't we weren't trying to create fear, terror amongst the normal community. 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:04.160 We were just literally suppliers of parties, I guess you could say at that time, right? 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:11.119 And people that had issues with us, you know, we showed up accordingly, but we had no we had no issue with the common public. 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:14.880 But once somebody let loose and that was it, right? 00:20:14.960 --> 00:20:17.039 Every nobody wanted anything to do with us anymore. 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:25.119 So I came back and nobody wanted to buy drugs for me, nobody wanted to do anything with me anymore, and the guys that I was working with, I owed so much money to them. 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:30.960 It was like you're gonna have to find a way to make some money before we start helping you again. 00:20:31.519 --> 00:20:31.839 Right? 00:20:31.920 --> 00:20:41.759 So then I I get to this low spot where I'm hopping between couches, I have no connections, I'm kind of disconnected from everything at that time, and then I go down to my buddy's place, right? 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:54.480 And then we're now we're back to down there where he's has this little glass tube with a ball on the end of it, and I'm just like I take a hit of it, and after that it was like my life went right downhill so fast for two years. 00:20:54.720 --> 00:21:01.920 It's like all I did is spend time inside that trap house just spinning that little ball over and over and over and over for days and days on end. 00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:09.440 And it was like that was the real first time that I seen like the demonic realm, I guess, like unveiled between before my eyes. 00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:16.480 It was like I felt dark spirits and I could see spirits after like say three or four days of smoking that stuff and not sleeping. 00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:29.839 I would like be so paranoid and see shadows running across the room, and you know, like things that were just messing with my mind, and I would just I remember I'd close my eyes and I'd be like, It's not real, it's not real, it's not real. 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:31.359 You can't close your eyes to that. 00:21:31.599 --> 00:21:35.680 Yeah, and and it was just something that just yeah, it followed me, right? 00:21:35.759 --> 00:21:44.160 And so I was like over these two years, because you're at such a low, and that drug just it it takes everything from you, it takes everything from you. 00:21:44.319 --> 00:21:47.279 So ended up like like I said, 147 pounds. 00:21:47.359 --> 00:21:48.240 I'm down to nothing. 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:57.599 I'm stealing bottles from people's backyards and bringing them to the bottle depot in the morning to get more drugs,

and you know, like there's and I wasn't on a level I was at anymore. 00:21:57.759 --> 00:22:04.079 It was like I've literally fallen to the bottom of the barrel and erased from what I was doing, you know? 00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:05.119 Um there. 00:22:05.279 --> 00:22:09.359 And I remember I I want to share one of these demonic experiences. 00:22:09.920 --> 00:22:14.960 I'm in this house, this trap house that I had been in for for a while, and the cops had been looking for me. 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:24.240 We're in there smoking and we're getting high and the friend of mine is like he starts drawing all these like satanic symbols all over the walls on everything. 00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:28.640 He's like, you know, claiming that house for the enemy right for the devil. 00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:31.440 And I like there was this fear, right? 00:22:31.519 --> 00:22:36.960 And I remember I used to wear this I used to have this white gold rope and I never sold it even in my addiction. 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:42.799 It was something that I held on to it was a white gold rope with a with a cross on it and diamonds in it in the face of it. 00:22:43.519 --> 00:22:49.039 And uh I told my buddy I said you want to see what the spiritual realm looks like and like I didn't even know where this came from. 00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:52.559 This just came out of me for like I don't know how this even came out of me to be honest. 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:56.400 I'd never done anything like this before practiced anything like this before none of it. 00:22:56.640 --> 00:22:58.480 And I was like come with me in the bathroom. 00:22:58.559 --> 00:23:14.480 So we go sit in the bathroom I said bring a candle so we brought a candle in and we sat it on the counter right where the sink is and uh I take a feather and I start twirling this feather over top of this flame and all of a sudden I said when I let go of this it's gonna stay floating and I let go of it and it just was rotating. 00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:15.599 Nothing was holding it. 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:21.680 You didn't know what you were doing at all this was all just off the cuff like did you think you were messing with him like this a joke? 00:23:21.920 --> 00:23:28.880 Yeah I kind I kind of thought I was messing with this guy and I wanted to kind of scare him straight because I'm like bro what you're doing right now like you're dumb. 00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:29.279 Right? 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:33.440 So it was almost like a a messing with him but it was like got back my play. 00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:45.279 Hey if you're a parent in recovery this might be for you rebuilding trust with a partner a co-parent or the people you love after the chaos of addiction can feel overwhelming. 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:48.240 Sometimes even impossible you're not alone. 00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:49.920 Donna and I have lived it. 00:23:50.079 --> 00:24:00.640 And out of that experience we built parenting in the storm work created for parents who are

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00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:56.400 That was messed up and and I'm kinda like looking at him like you know like what do you what what do you mean bro? 00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:57.359 Like what did you see? 00:25:57.519 --> 00:26:09.440 And he's like bro we were we were in this place man he's like it was all black and I could see these like these creatures and they were crawling up at our feet bro and they were they were trying to pull me into this darkness. 00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:15.680 He said but I looked at you and he said that cross that was on your neck bro it was shining a bright light. 00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:24.720 He said and the light that was on it those those things couldn't get to me bro as long as I stayed next to you he said that those those things couldn't touch me. 00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:39.119 He's like that's the most messed up thing I've ever experienced bro so like after that happened that was like I need to go into the wilderness I need to stay away I need to go build an encampment somewhere where the cops can't find me and I'm gonna stay out there. 00:26:39.359 --> 00:27:06.880 So I so we're like walking on our way out there and we like pack I pack up a bag with some stuff noodles and like you know flashlight lighter you know drugs and everything else that we can take out there with us right and we're like headed up and we're on our way out walking up this back alley and uh all of a sudden I just hear like a like a and I just like turn around and look both of my friends were both on their face on on dirt and I'm like what are you guys doing? 00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:24.400 And they're like you can't see that and their faces are still down they're not even lifting their heads and I said see what and I turn around and look and it's just like a starry sky you know it's nighttime and I'm just like looking up and they're like there's three angels standing there in the sky and I turn back and look again I don't see nothing. 00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:26.160 I don't see anything at this time. 00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:31.200 I'm like whatever you guys don't want to come out here then I'll just go by myself and they're like we're not going out there. 00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:52.720 So I ended up going out there and I build this encampment and I I build this teepee I put a bunch of rocks in the bottom of this hole that I dug and then I I started a fire got the rocks heated up so they were nice and warm just like a a sweat lodge right and it was like keeping everything warm in there a little tarp and I was I was hanging out in there and I I start flailing out because I'm I'm really high. 00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:58.480 I'm like looking through my bag and stuff and all of a sudden I look and there's a Bible in there. 00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:02.319 I don't own a Bible I'm like where did this Bible come from? 00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:22.559 And I just felt I was like sitting there and I was like you know what I got like four hours before the sun comes up you know I'm gonna sit here and read this thing whatever so I grabbed the Bible and I open up to book of Revelation I I was so rebellious at that time it's like I ain't starting at the front I'm gonna start at the back you know I want to hear I want to see the end of the story. 00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:38.640 I've heard that before the exact that exact thing you've heard that before you know so I was just like I'm gonna do it so I start reading the book of Revelation and by the time I get through it I have like this this holy fear that's like coming

over me where I'm just like I like I actually feel afraid. 00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:42.640 I'm like if this is real like like I'm I'm screwed. 00:28:42.960 --> 00:29:06.799 Cooked yeah I'm done you know and I'm just like like I don't know how to process this you know and like I had like so much anxiety like in my chest and I was like I gotta get out of here I gotta go for a walk you know so like I like leave this encampment which is out down by this creek and I like come out up to the corner of this field and I all I had all I hear is a trumpet like a loud trumpet noise. 00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:15.200 It's like so loud and I remember just reading right it's like when when the trumpet sounds you know the end of the days will come that everything will be judged before God. 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:15.680 Right? 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:29.519 Everything and I just like all of a sudden I'm like terrified and I like hear the I hear a trumpet again for a second time and the second time I start hearing like this like this clashing of metal like a marching army. 00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:31.039 Like that's what it sounded like. 00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:46.400 So I like I turn and I like look at my right and I see like all these knights and they're like standing on the one edge of this field and they're all dressed in white and they're they're carrying swords and there was angels all above them like hu like oh they were so beautiful. 00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:52.960 They're like huge and just beautiful and just the magnificent colors that were coming off them was just mesmerizing. 00:29:53.279 --> 00:30:22.720 And I turned and I look over to my left and I seen like all these dark warriors and they were all standing on to the left and they had like had this smoke that was like this black smoke that was like dissipating off of their bodies and I could see all like these like grim reaper style you know spirits that were all above them and then I heard the trumpet sound for the third time and on the third time I heard war cries from both armies as they were coming forward and they were they were charging each other full force. 00:30:22.960 --> 00:31:01.119 They came and I was standing at the edge of this field right and and when they clashed it was at the center of my being like at the very very center of my chest and as soon as those armies clashed I there was a bright light and I and I fall dead to my face and I I remember hearing in my left ear like this noise it was like uh like a combination I guess between like uh a pig squeal like uh a baby crying and like a mother wailing for her dead children like it was like just a blood curdling scream like just a terrifying noise and all of a sudden I heard this loud loud thunderous voice and it said where do you stand? 00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:06.079 And I and I couldn't even speak like it was like my vocal cords were frozen. 00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:10.400 I was like and all of a sudden he asked again Where do you stand? 00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:35.279 That power started to come off of me like enough for me to sit up and I said I stand with you and he said I've chosen you and you are my son and you are a soldier in Christ's army and all of a sudden that light goes away and I'm standing in that field I'm not on my face and like at that time I didn't I didn't understand what like the fullness of what that meant. 00:31:35.359 --> 00:31:58.559 So I got to share that part of a testimony in a young adults group with a a church group here in Saskatoon and um I I prayed and I said Lord I want you to give me a deeper revelation of what happened that day so that I can share with these young kids and uh he said to me he said that light that you seen was my glory and he said that's what made the demons run was my glory. 00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:02.880 And it was just like that revelation just hit me so hard. 00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:08.319 That revelation hit me hard that it was God never gave up on me. 00:32:09.440 --> 00:33:02.319 So like literally the field was like probably like maybe half kilometer from town so like I start walking into town and I'm just like I'm trying to process like what just what I just experienced and uh I I come into town it was just a short little jot to my buddy's place and it was it was early in the morning like the sun had already come up I knew he was leaving for work and I I come up to his house and I'm like yo wild and that's what was the name I called him I was like Wild I need to use your phone and he's like what's up bro he's like I'm headed to work I don't really want you hanging around here while I'm not here and I said yo no I understand that bro I said I I need to call my mom and like I hadn't really talked to my mom for like years at this point right like I was inorganized crime I was using drugs all this stuff right I'd never even reached out to my mom and I called her and I said mom I I I just experienced God. 00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:32.480 I said I know God's real I said and I want to come home and she's like Jordan for the last three days I've been having dreams that you were gonna die She said I started writing scripture all over the walls she said everywhere my house is it's covered with scripture She's like I've been praying for you for three days she said you were I I knew you were gonna die and um I said I I want to come home mom and she's like where are you? 00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:41.440 So I told her where I was and she came and got me and she picked me up and we're driving back to Bonnieville Alberta and she says what do you want to do? 00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:43.119 And I said I I don't know what to do. 00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:45.759 I said the cops are the cops want me bad. 00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:56.960 I'm probably going away for three years plus some time and she's like well she said I think you should pray and I said I said mama I I never I don't know how to pray. 00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:20.079 I never I never prayed to God a

day in my life and um she's like just go up into the room upstairs and just talk to him like he's your friend and uh so I go I go upstairs like not right in that moment but later on that night and I just remember getting down my knees and I was like God or whoever you are I don't know what you want want from me. 00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:24.159 I know you're real What do you want from me? 00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:34.559 And I just I just remember feeling like this this inner voice inside of me in my spirit was like tell the truth and the truth will set you free. 00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:49.840 So the next morning I I go to my mom I said Mom I want to go turn myself in she said are you sure that's what you want to do and I said yeah Mom I said I heard from God last night in my spirit and he said to tell the truth and the truth will set me free. 00:34:50.400 --> 00:35:03.199 So I go in and then I was like they're like how can we help you and I said I'm I'm Jordan Atkinson and I want to turn myself in and they're like the cops come walking around the corner and they're like Mr. 00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:17.039 Atkinson you're turning yourself in and I said yeah I'm turning myself in and they're like just wait right here so I sat down in the waiting room and I'm like waiting to go to the cells right and they come around with some paperwork and they're like sign here. 00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:20.480 Like sign right here and you'll be in court in two weeks. 00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:34.559 So they gave me a promise to appear and like I had already failed to appear so many times for all the charges that that I already had, all the evadings that I talked about and so I I literally walked out the front door and I remember look on my mom's face. 00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:38.400 She was just like How are you walking out of the front door right now? 00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:42.159 And I got in the V class said mom they let me go. 00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:43.519 And she's like what do you mean? 00:35:43.679 --> 00:36:01.760 And I said they gave me a promise to appear I gotta go to court in two weeks and she's like okay well let's go home so we go home and I spent some time with my family right and knowing that I was going to be going away for a while I reached out to a few friends and I was like hey when I get out of when I get out can you hook me up with a job he's like well how long are you gonna be gone? 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:19.199 I said I know I'm looking at three and he's like Well I I don't know if I'll even still be here but you know I'll do the best I can for you when when you get out bro You know I'm trying to find like a sense of security so that I like when I come out I have something to come out to because I'm like I'm going away for all this time and when I come out I'm gonna come out to nothing. 00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:20.960 I'm gonna come out to being homeless again. 00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:37.840 I'm gonna come out to not having an income or not having money not

you know not having anything so it's coming up to the morning of going to court and I'm like I'm like sweating like actually I have sweat on my on my forehead like I'm like I'm like I'm worried right life changes in three years. 00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:54.960 I've seen it you know I know what that looks like so I go in and the dock it's there right and the whole page front page is just me just me the whole page and I like flip to the second page and I still got a couple on top and I'm just like dang bro like this is not good. 00:36:55.440 --> 00:37:03.519 This is not good and I'm like I'm still remembering what the Spirit of God told me right and I'm just like I gotta I gotta do what he said I have to do what he said I have to do what he said. 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:13.760 So I come into the courtroom and uh Kat Williams was the judge at the time and like she know me my whole life she sentenced me many times in my life she's in she knows my whole life story. 00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:19.199 She's seen it all you know and uh so I like come up to the front and she's like Mr. 00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:25.119 Atkinson do you have legal counsel and I said no your honor I don't need legal counsel this morning and she said Mr. 00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:33.599 Atkinson you understand that you're facing federal charges this morning and that you're looking at some serious time and I said yes your honor but I don't need legal counsel. 00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:42.320 She's like okay on that note she said what's your plea I said I plead guilty on all charges your honor and she says to me I'm just gonna stop the court for a second. 00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:42.719 Mr. 00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:53.679 Atkinson do you understand that the Crown does not have enough evidence to charge you of all these offenses that are here today and I said yeah I understand that Your Honor but God told me to come in here and to tell the truth and the truth will set me free. 00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:54.800 So that's what I'm here to do. 00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:59.199 And I'm here to tell you the truth that I'm guilty on all charges Your Honor everything on that docket I did. 00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:18.480 And there's just like a pause inside the courtroom and she's she's like in my right mind Mr Atkinson I can't charge you of any of these offenses I'm gonna I'm gonna charge you with one offense uh a promise to appear a failed promise to appear so you're gonna serve 30 days in the Fort Saskatchewan Correction Center. 00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:21.199 She says on top of that I'm gonna accredit you 18 more days. 00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:29.199 She says you'll serve 12 days in the Fort Saskatchewan Correction Center and she turned and she looks at my mom and she says he truly has been born again. 00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:30.719 That's what she said to my mom. 00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:42.960 And like I never I didn't I didn't know that terminology and to be born again is to be given a new life through Christ right and to be transformed into a new being into a new person and I I didn't understand what that meant at that time. 00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:44.480 Like I didn't know my Bible at all. 00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:54.800 I read the book of Revelation that's as far as I knew right after that she's like bailiff come and take Mr Atkinson so like right there in the courtroom I was taken the bailiff comes up to me he's like a like a 70 year old man. 00:38:54.880 --> 00:39:32.960 He's like he's an older gentleman right and he comes and he's just he doesn't even grab my wrist or nothing he's just like he escorts me right I just go freely and willingly right and I I walk through the doors into the back and he puts me inside this little glass box waiting for the county van to take me to Edmonton and uh he's before I walk in there he kind of grabs my wrist and he's like mister come here and he was a short fellow right so I kind of had to like crunch down a little bit to like get eye level with him because he was very small gentleman and he said mister he's like I've been doing this for 50 years and I never seen what I just seen that's what he said to me. 00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:34.159 That's all he said to me. 00:39:34.400 --> 00:40:07.840 And so I I turn around I just kind of smiled and I sat inside that glass and I just thought to myself like what are the chances of that and so I get in the county van I ride to uh Edmonton Reman Center I'm there for like I think like six days or something while they were like uh doing the paperwork to have me transition over to Fort Saskatchewan so like I'm in there for a couple days right I'm on uh unit one C just because of my affiliation and stuff so I'm on one C I'm hanging out and uh the gang block? 00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:39.760 Yeah it it was at that time they had changed some stuff around because of uh uh COVID and the like two C and three C was all transferred over into one C now and there was some time where it was like that right so uh I'm waiting in quarantine like we're literally in the uh what's it called the administration pod so it's just like this uh concrete room with like uh bulletproof glass or whatever and like there's like guys like 30 guys piled up in this little tiny thing like everybody's laying on the floor people are on people like and you're in there. 00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:41.199 Any familiar faces? 00:40:41.440 --> 00:41:13.920 Uh yeah I'd run into a few people I knew like uh this guy a Frenchie that I knew for a long time back from home so like we had started chatting up a bit and he was telling me about my buddy Vinny my my buddy Big Vinny and he was also in uh with organized crime right and he's like yo have you heard did you hear what happened to Big Vin and I said no what happened with Vin and he's like oh he's like one of his bros owed him some money so he kidnapped him and put him in his trunk and he forgot that he was in his trunk and he got T-boned at a light in Edmonton and killed his buddy that

was in the trunk and now he's going to Fed and I was like so what are you doing in here French? 00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:38.719 He's like oh I just have some uh GTA stuff and you know I I'll I'll be out in a little while you know I've been in here waiting for however long whatever he was doing court that day so he was back down in administration waiting for waiting for his court so like uh people inside whatever pods have court a lot of the time they'll put bring them back down to administration and you're in that administration pod where they'll give you like um bologna sandwich and uh orange and that they call them bag lunches. 00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:39.119 Mm-hmm. 00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:42.000 So usually they come down for that time. 00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:48.079 So the new guys that are going in are s are in the same area as guys that are just coming in into the facility. 00:41:48.559 --> 00:42:19.119 So yeah I I'd run into him for a little bit we were there I was only there for like six days I believe it was six days and then I got transferred out to Fort Saskatchewan they had a spot for me so I go out there while I was in there I was like yo when I get out I need to uh I need to get baptized I I want to get baptized like I know I know he's real I know he's real I'm sitting in there and I start having this dream this recurring dream and when I went in there I just felt in my spirit like you need to pick up your you need to pick up your Bible and start reading it. 00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:25.119 So then I started picking up my Bible and reading it and like the first day or two I just felt like start memorizing scripture. 00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:45.119 So the first piece of scripture that I ever memorized was Psalm 23 The Lord is my shepherd he's all that I need he lies me down in green pastures lead me beside peaceful streams guiding me along the right path bringing honor to his name that even though that I walk through the darkest valley I'll fear no evil for you are with me, your rod and your staff they comfort me. 00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:50.559 You prepare a place you prepare a place in the midst of my enemies and you anoint my head with oil. 00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:55.199 Surely your mercy and goodness will follow me all the days of my life and I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever. 00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:58.960 Amen And that was the first piece of scripture that I ever memorized. 00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:24.639 I've memorized a lot of scripture since that time like I clung to the word of God like life itself and you know I I share with a lot of people but I'm gonna continue on I don't want to get into that quite yet so I I started having this recurring dream and in this dream I'm uh I'm like on a football field and I'm being hutted this ball and I'm like I take the ball and I'm running with it and like there's these linebackers and they're like they're like those creatures that I spoke about in that vision. 00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:35.519 They were big they were black and they had all this smoke like dissipating off them and when I hit them boom I'd wake up and I'm on the top bunk of the cell like sweating to the point I have to take my onesie off. 00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:37.760 And for three days this kept reoccurring. 00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:46.639 And I remember the third day I wrote I was reading first John and I believe it's first John four verse sixteen that says God is love. 00:43:47.119 --> 00:44:08.559 But I just felt like this like this I guess infilling of the spirit came inside of me because it meant it meant something it something that spoke to me more than just human words but in words of the Spirit that like fed me and it was like I c I held on to it and I I started reading also like in Ephesians, right? 00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:15.920 Because I felt like I was like in there and it was talking about the armor of God, you know, and it was like clothing myself in the armor, right? 00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:18.719 And it was like the sword, the sword is the spirit of God, right? 00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:20.559 Ephesians 6 verse 17, right? 00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:22.159 The sword is the spirit of God. 00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:35.760 And um, so I uh I like go back in this dream the third night, and like just before the ball gets hutted to me, I hear this small voice in my spirit, use the sword. 00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:42.719 And earlier that day I had read, right, the sword is the word of God, and then I remember I know a piece of scripture. 00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.119 I memorized one piece of scripture. 00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:52.639 So then I hut that he I get catch that ball, and I remember just holding on to it, and I started praying and running with my eyes closed. 00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:58.960 And I just started reciting the prayer, just or the recited that verse, right, in Psalms, the David Psalms, the Psalm of David. 00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:15.199 And I start running down the field and I like open my eyes and I'm about to collide with these dark spirits, and I broke through them, broke right through them, and I just kept running and running and running and running, and I got to the end zone and I throw the ball on the ground and touchdown. 00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:26.639 And I remember waking up, so I'm like sitting there and we had a radio station on, I had the country station on, literally listening, and there's a song that came on, it was Carrie Underwood, and it's called Love Winds. 00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:30.800 And it was like in that moment I just started weeping. 00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:38.719 I felt the love of God come from heaven fall onto me, and I couldn't do anything but just cry. 00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:44.000 Like I felt like I'd been washed clean, like the water of the word had washed me clean. 00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:45.280 So I leave, right? 00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:52.719 And you know, I told the I told the guards, you boys ain't ever gonna see me again, I said,

and they're like, Yeah, yeah, that's what we hear from everybody. 00:45:52.880 --> 00:45:55.440 He said, I said, No, you ain't never gonna see me again. 00:45:55.679 --> 00:46:04.960 They're like, whatever, Atkinson, because like I'd said earlier, I'd been a heavy on the unit before, so like I was I was a frequent flyer, you know, I was somebody that they they knew by name. 00:46:05.199 --> 00:46:11.199 So I remember going to the church right away, and I went in and I was like, I want to get baptized, when can I get baptized? 00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:11.920 When's the next service? 00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:17.360 I want to get baptized right now, and they're like, Well, the service is we don't have a service coming up for another two months. 00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:20.719 He said, But when we have our baptism service, you'll be on it. 00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:29.679 And uh, you know, the the guy that baptized me, he used to come to my house when before my son was taken. 00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:30.880 His name's Ben. 00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:33.679 And he used to come to my house and my mom would send him over. 00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:42.639 I was just like, I'm gonna tell this guy what I do for a living, what I, you know, what I have going on in the back scene in the backdrop, and I'm gonna scare this guy off and he's never gonna come back, right? 00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:48.000 And like he came over and I telling me stories and telling real life experience, what I've seen, what I've done. 00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:50.719 I was like, You think your Jesus can save me? 00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:52.800 And he would come and share with me. 00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:58.719 And even though I try to scare him off, he'd still come share with me and tell me that Jesus loved me, and even though I wasn't ready to hear it. 00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:04.400 And so when I told him I'm getting baptized, he's like, I it's an honor, Jordan, to be able to baptize you. 00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:07.039 We've been we've been on a bit of a journey together, the two of us. 00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:20.400 And uh so I go and I uh I get baptized, my grand my grandparents are there, even friends of mine that were like part of organized crime showed up and they're like, Yo, we support you in what you're doing, bro. 00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:23.599 Like, you know, we we you you still have our respect. 00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:25.679 We don't care what it is you're doing, bro. 00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:28.159 You've always been real, you've always been raw with us, you know. 00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:31.840 And if this is what you're doing, bro, then we support you on what you're doing, you know. 00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:34.960 There wasn't really any like real hard feelings. 00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:42.159 I still struggle with addiction even after I got baptized, and even after this, I didn't use hard drugs like for a long time. 00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:47.360 Like I didn't understand that there was more freedom in Christ than what I was experiencing at that time. 00:47:47.440 --> 00:48:04.000 Like I had had this real encounter with God that changed my life, but I still wasn't walking in the freedom that he had paid for, you know, and so I guess for the next like six years I'd like struggle with addiction. 00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:05.360 I would move from town to town. 00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:09.039 I would still I would work, but I would still be struggling with addiction. 00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:11.599 I would like smoke marijuana all day, all the time. 00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:18.159 I started boxing, it started it was helping with my anger issues, but I still found myself, you know, getting angry. 00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:36.559 I remember I I would stay somewhere for like say like a year, and then everything would come crashing down because I'd go hang out with somebody who was using like cocaine, and then I would end up doing cocaine, and then it would be a down road spiral, and things would be all messed up again, and I'd have to move somewhere else and restart again. 00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:39.039 So I I struggled with that for like six years. 00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:42.480 I went to the rigs for five years, I worked on the oil rigs for five years. 00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:47.760 Um I was derricking a Derrickan for four years, which is the guy at the very top of the rig. 00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:53.360 So I worked up there as a Derrickan for four years, still struggled with addiction, and then I drilled for a year. 00:48:53.519 --> 00:49:09.199 So I was drilling on the third biggest service rig in Canada in Northwest Territories on a f on a uh six-line block, inch and a quarter lines, pulling 158 decks on a uh 13 and 58 casing, which is as big as it gets. 00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:12.400 So this is like the epitome like of big rig. 00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:13.920 Like this is as big as it gets. 00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:14.719 It does not get bigger. 00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:15.760 Discovery channel bigger. 00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:17.119 Yeah, like it does not get bigger. 00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:18.559 I could see you on discovery channel. 00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:19.039 Perfect. 00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:27.039 Maybe not for drilling, but so I do that, right? 00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:37.119 And I'm like really struggling with addiction, and like I had a bad breakup that happened, and I just spiraled down and lost my job, lot, crashed a vehicle, and you know, just about lost my license. 00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:39.920 And I was like at this low point again. 00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:42.000 I came back crashing down to this low point. 00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:44.000 And it's because I started chasing money. 00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:56.880 You know, I started chasing money and the things of the world and was trying to have the nice vehicle and the nice house and all the cash in the bank and all and just wandering away from what or wandering away from the the word of God, right? 00:49:57.039

--> 00:49:58.960 And I went right back to like that depth. 00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:05.760 There was no like gradual like slide back down, it was like literally right back to homelessness. 00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:13.920 Like to the point I was driving around in a bike with a pair of bolt cutters and cutting down um ground cables off power poles in town. 00:50:14.159 --> 00:50:14.480 Wow. 00:50:14.639 --> 00:50:20.719 And I would take that copper and bring it to a a dealer's place and get get drugs to get me high. 00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:27.119 And like I'd just been making three hundred thousand dollars on a rig, and now I'm driving around with a bike on with a cart. 00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:29.679 With the keys to the city, yeah, exactly, yeah. 00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:35.679 It's like I was staying in this trap house and you know, they were they were up to some bad things, right? 00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:59.360 And uh there was like this lady that came around and she's a witch, like a real witch, like someone who practiced the occult, and you know, she was like praying over objects and giving them to people, and I could see like they would like think that there was like flies crawling all over them or like maggots or like you know, and they were literally going insane, like literally losing their sanity. 00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:07.920 And this lady would come around as a witch and she would like like I guess give people objects that were cursed, and it would curse them. 00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:29.280 And uh there was like this time in that depth where it was like I just I had silenced the spirit of God and just was doing whatever I wanted to do and trying to satisfy my flesh in processing that hurt and I just felt in my spirit if you don't stop you're gonna die. 00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:36.000 And like all of a sudden I just Yeah, I went to this guy's house and like I barely even knew this guy. 00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:43.840 Like I'd met him maybe like a month before, and I go there and I'm like sitting there in the living room with him and his wife, and they're both users, right? 00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:48.239 So we're like using in the and he's like, You need to leave. 00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:50.960 And I'm just like, What do you mean I need to leave? 00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:53.119 He's like, You need to leave or you're gonna die. 00:51:53.920 --> 00:52:00.159 And I just was like, I just had heard this and I just was like, I I need to I need to use your phone. 00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:01.440 I'd have to call somebody right now. 00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:03.840 He's like, You need to leave or you're gonna die. 00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:10.079 And you know, I uh ended up reaching out to my mom again and she'd been with me through this whole journey, right? 00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:14.239 And so she I reached out to her and I was like, Mom I need you to come get me, and she was mad. 00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.679 She's like, Jordan, like how many more times are you gonna do

this? 00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:19.599 How many more times do I gotta rescue you? 00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:25.360 I said, Mom, I wouldn't be calling you if this wasn't I'm uh a life or death situation. 00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:28.559 I said, if you don't come get me, I'm gonna die. 00:52:29.679 --> 00:52:31.360 And she's like, Where are you? 00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:34.320 So I told her where I was and she come got me. 00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:37.360 I'm just like I'm like ten days high. 00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:40.400 Like just so paranoid and drugs in my pocket, right? 00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:44.320 And my mom's like, she comes to pick me up, she's like, You have any drugs on you? 00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:46.880 Where's your and I was like, No, no, right? 00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:58.559 You're just lying because you're you're in such need, like, you think you're in such need for those drugs that it's just like you would steal from your own mother, you'd lie to your own parents, you'd do anything to be high, right? 00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:08.960 Had to go through ten days of withdrawals, and when I was going through those withdrawals, like I was like, you know, diarrhea and puking everywhere and just like sweating and like my body was screaming to get high. 00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:12.480 And I was like, I told my mom, lock me in this room, don't let me out for a week. 00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:14.159 Just lock me in here, don't let me out. 00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:16.159 No matter what I say, don't let me out of here. 00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:17.760 And so she put me downstairs. 00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:21.920 She didn't actually lock me in, you know, but like I was in that room and she wouldn't let me leave the house. 00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:24.079 And I didn't try to leave the house, to be honest. 00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:30.320 I laid in that bed and just sweat and sweat and sweat and puked and you know, usually bathroom and just everything. 00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:32.000 Yeah, it was it was terrible. 00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:37.199 So ten days went by and I finally started getting I guess my body started recovering. 00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:39.920 My mind still wasn't clear but my body was recovering. 00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:48.400 And I like go outside and I'm like smoking just a cigarette on the on the balcony, and my mom comes out and she's like, Jordan, have you ever thought about rehab? 00:53:49.199 --> 00:53:51.519 And I just as soon as she said that I just started crying. 00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:55.440 I just started weeping and I was just like, Mom, I can't do this on my own. 00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:56.880 I can't stop. 00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:58.320 I just can't stop. 00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:01.119 I I I can't I can't do this by myself. 00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:02.079 I need your help. 00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:08.559 And she said, Okay, well let's let's find her let's find a place that we can take you so that you can get the help you need. 00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:15.199 So then

we found this uh facility, a government facility out in Gunn, Alberta, and they have a facility out there. 00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:25.119 So I got in within a couple weeks, but they're more like around the indigenous culture because it's on indigenous land and they didn't want Christianity there. 00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:27.360 They didn't want Jesus talked about there. 00:54:27.599 --> 00:54:31.840 So me having this experience and like now walking in this path, right? 00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:33.199 I'm just on fire for God. 00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:42.639 Like all of a sudden, like from the time of me being at my mom's to the time I got in, which was a few weeks, I had spent 10 hours a day reading my Bible. 00:54:42.880 --> 00:54:44.960 So I just clung to what I knew. 00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:48.159 I'm literally walking, breathing, talking, word of God. 00:54:48.639 --> 00:54:51.840 And that that's what was up flowing from my mouth because that's all I was consuming. 00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:54.559 Can't even ask to go to the bathroom without quoting scripture. 00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:55.119 Amen. 00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:55.760 Amen. 00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:56.639 Amen. 00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:58.480 Couldn't even sneeze, you know what I mean? 00:54:58.719 --> 00:54:59.119 Yeah, yeah. 00:54:59.280 --> 00:54:59.679 For sure. 00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:06.159 So, like, I'm like, while we were there, they would like do these big classes where there was people, and this is what that's what happened, right? 00:55:06.239 --> 00:55:17.840 They're like talking about like recovery and like you know, breathing exercises and all this, and anytime they would they would ask if anybody has anything they'd like to add, I would add a piece of scripture every time. 00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:22.320 Like, I was just like, Yeah, I was a walking, talking, breathing word of God. 00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:29.760 There came a point where I was in the program and I remember calling my mom, and like I had met a lot of resistance with the program for preaching. 00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:38.880 They pulled me into the office and they're like, Um, you uh you need to stop pre you need to stop telling people about Jesus. 00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:46.000 You need to stop your prayer groups, and you you're no longer allowed to hold your Bible reading classes. 00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:50.239 She said, if you want to do that stuff, you can do it in your cabin by yourself. 00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:54.079 And I just called my mom and I said, Mom, I don't think I'm supposed to be here. 00:55:54.320 --> 00:55:55.840 I don't want to be here anymore. 00:55:56.000 --> 00:55:57.920 And she and she's like, Well, what do you want to do? 00:55:58.000 --> 00:55:59.679 I said, I want to go to a different place. 00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:01.440 I want to go somewhere different. 00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:06.960 And all of a sudden, in my the Lord brought to my memory a fellow that I had met. 00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:09.920 He's like,

Have you ever heard about Teen Challenge? 00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:12.000 And I said, No, I never heard about Teen Challenge. 00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:14.639 He said, Oh, it's a faith-based recovery center. 00:56:14.800 --> 00:56:16.559 He's like, You should look into it. 00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:21.840 And I just kind of, you know, sloughed it off and didn't think anything of it, right? 00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:26.239 And um, so then in that moment, I was like, I want to go to Teen Challenge. 00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:29.119 And she's like, Okay, well, let's get the paperwork figured out. 00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:41.039 So when I walked into Teen Challenge, like I was still carrying a lot of hurt and I still carried a lot of trauma and you know, post-traumatic stress disorder from like what what I seen and what I went through and what I done, right? 00:56:41.119 --> 00:56:48.800 And it was like I had to find a way to work through that and and try and find peace in that because it was it was stealing my freedom. 00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:52.400 So um I went through this celebrate recovery. 00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:54.079 So I did the Celebrate Recovery program. 00:56:54.320 --> 00:56:55.599 I did all 10 steps. 00:56:55.760 --> 00:56:57.519 I did it, did it in about seven months. 00:56:57.679 --> 00:57:06.320 I really took the time to go through every step and learn it and um you know evaluate each each step and how that's applied to my life. 00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:17.360 And so after I'd finished that celebrate recovery, we would go out for like certain like I guess speakers and evangelists or pastors that would come. 00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:22.000 And like I I'm a frequent goer of Christ the Healer Gospel Church. 00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:24.320 They had a thing going on with a guy named Dr. 00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:29.840 Charles Gazuba, and he spoke such a powerful word, but he called us up right away. 00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:31.119 So we go up there, right? 00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:41.920 And Charles he starts praying, and he's like, any orphan spirit, any spirit of murder, every enemy, every I felt like I was so light, but I was in a different place. 00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:46.079 I was not I was not in that church anymore, I was somewhere else. 00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:56.880 I'm laying on the ground and I can like see my own body, and I just kept saying to myself, get up, get up, get up, get up, and I couldn't move. 00:57:56.960 --> 00:58:02.159 I was just flattened, I was flattened to the ground, and then all of a sudden I just felt my body start shaking. 00:58:02.239 --> 00:58:16.639 I remember seeing Charles put his hand like towards me and he started praying for me, and I'm laying there and my body's just like shaking, like convulsing like crazy, like I look like a fish out of water, just flo just flapping around on the ground. 00:58:16.880 --> 00:58:28.000 Like in front of a congregation, in front of everybody, and I was just like all of a sudden I just seen like

this dark evil spirit just come off me and it took off right out the doors of church, gone. 00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:37.199 And then all of a sudden I came to and I just jumped and I sat right up, and I just felt I after that day I never felt anger like that ever again. 00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:39.920 That that left me and and it changed me that day. 00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:42.159 Like that other and like shout out to Charles. 00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:54.719 If you ever see this, Charles, like I just thank you for being the man of God that you are and bringing the message you did and praying over me because it did change my life, and I'm and I'm here because of that walking in a greater level of freedom. 00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:58.480 And um a little bit later on another guest speaker comes. 00:58:58.639 --> 00:59:08.159 The speaker is named JD King, and he's from Kansas City, and he's a healing minister, he's very anointed in healing, and uh I didn't know him, I never heard of him, none of that stuff, right? 00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:13.679 And like I I was very zealous for the Lord and seeking after him, and he didn't even preach a word. 00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:17.199 He like he didn't he didn't preach an hour-long message. 00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:17.840 Nothing. 00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:24.719 He's like this is the one scripture he said, he said, Do you guys remember the scripture of the blind man who cried out to Jesus? 00:59:24.880 --> 00:59:28.800 He said, Son of David, son of David, have mercy on me. 00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:31.440 And everybody around him said, Be quiet, be quiet. 00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:35.519 And even louder he yelled, Son of David, son of David, have mercy on me. 00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:42.639 And Jesus went to him and he took dirt, he took dust from the ground, he spit in his fingers and he put clay on his eyes and he said, Open. 00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:54.639 And his eyes were open, and he jumped and rejoiced, because he was blind, and now he sees and he said, Is there any of you in this room that are gonna let Jesus pass you by tonight? 00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:57.840 Or are you gonna say, Son of David, have mercy on me? 00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:14.960 And in that moment, like right there, as soon as he said that, somebody come breaking through the back door of the church, like doors flung wide open, everybody's like turning and looking, like you know, and this young lady is like Jesus told me that if I come here tonight that you could heal me and you will set me free. 01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:20.239 And she's bawling, like bawling, and I'm just like, What is happening right now? 01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:25.679 Like the spirit of God is so powerful in there in that moment, like I was I could feel it over my whole body. 01:00:26.320 --> 01:00:32.719 And she comes up to the front and he starts praying for her, and she just starts screaming at the top of her lungs. 01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:39.039 And all of a sudden, when that spirit left her, she

just went flat in the ground, just completely flattened and quiet and still. 01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:44.559 And uh and then he looks at the congregation and he says, Who else needs healing? 01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:50.800 And people just start like jumping over top of each other, like coming up to the altar at this point, right? 01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:53.199 And like I'm just still sitting in my spot. 01:00:53.360 --> 01:01:04.480 The buddy that was beside me, he pushes me out of the way and he's just like he's like, I want my healing, and he he he takes off running, he and I uh I'm like sitting there and I was like, Oh, I should go help these people. 01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:07.679 I should go like catch people so they don't fall and hurt themselves. 01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:11.280 And I like walk up and I'm like ready to catch people, right? 01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:20.400 Standing behind people, and all of a sudden JD King he turns and he's like points and he's just like you and I'm just like he's like what do you need healing for? 01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:33.360 He's like, I need to pray for you, and he just comes like running across the room at me, and I'm just like, Oh no, you know, it's like so he he comes up to me, right? 01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:36.000 And he's just like, What do you need prayer for? 01:01:36.159 --> 01:01:38.000 And like in that moment I didn't even know what to say. 01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:48.880 Yeah, and I just like just started explaining to him like how I'm still feeling, even while I'm in the program, and even while I'm still believing in the Lord, and even while I'm still like surrendering to what he's asking me, how I'm still feeling. 01:01:49.199 --> 01:02:00.960 And it's like I feel like you know I'm never gonna be good enough, that you know, I'm never gonna find a home, and that I'm always gonna be on my own, and that maybe maybe I wasn't meant to be in God's family. 01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:08.159 And he just he looks at me and he's like, Orphan spirit, I command you to come out now in Jesus' name. 01:02:08.239 --> 01:02:17.360 And as soon as he said Orphan Spirit, I just my knees started like just like getting weak and I was like having a hard time standing and I fell to my knees. 01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:34.800 And all of a sudden I just all I could I just felt the love of the Father again just come over me and I just started weeping and weeping and weeping and like just slobber coming out of my mouth like ugly crying, like this was not like this, you know, I was like I was l losing it, I was coming unhinged. 01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:44.239 And uh all of a sudden I I just out of like the inner most inner part of my body, it just kept I just kept yelling, Father, father, father. 01:02:45.039 --> 01:03:02.079 And in that moment I had another vision, and in that vision I was just a young boy when I had been on the streets by myself and I was laying underneath this bridge over the Heart River Bridge, and I remember I had to sleep

there one night and I was so afraid and I was crying and I was alone. 01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:14.639 And he showed me in that moment that he was hugging me and he was holding on to me right there in that moment, and he says, You know, you are no longer a slave, but I now call you my children, and your spirit cries out, Abba Father. 01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:16.079 That's his word. 01:03:16.400 --> 01:03:18.239 That's first Timothy, that's his word. 01:03:18.960 --> 01:03:22.159 And uh you know, and that that was a real experience for me. 01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:28.400 And when I came out of that weeping, I just felt like I didn't I didn't need to prove myself anymore. 01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:34.719 I didn't need people's approval, I didn't need acceptance, I didn't need any of those things because God loves me. 01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:38.159 And he never gave up on me and he was always with me. 01:03:38.559 --> 01:03:39.760 He never left my side. 01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:40.400 Never. 01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:51.280 Like after that, right, I just truly felt like like God started asking things of me after that day, he's like, I want you to get up in the middle of the night and I want you to start praying for people. 01:03:51.440 --> 01:04:00.880 So I'd like he'd like wake me up at three o'clock in the morning and I'm like, Lord, like why are you can I just wait till six thirty when we have to get up for breakfast and I'll go spend an hour and pray? 01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:02.480 Like, does it have to be right now? 01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:06.079 And he said, I want you to go when I call you and where I call you. 01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:07.920 So I started getting up at 3 a.m. 01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:21.280 and praying for guys in the in the program and one of the guys he uh froze his foot in his leg and he lost his foot and both of his hands and uh well he had a bunch of nubbies on one and lost the other. 01:04:21.679 --> 01:04:24.239 And uh he put him on my he put him on my heart. 01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:25.440 I want you to pray for him. 01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:29.119 And he'd been taking like hydromorphs and like was in a lot of nerve pain, right? 01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:31.679 Because of all the damage that happened from them freezing off. 01:04:32.320 --> 01:04:34.880 And uh I just prayed that he would feel no pain. 01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:39.679 And the next day, um he uh he didn't need his medication. 01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:44.559 He he walked around and they're like, Mike, you haven't taken your medication at all today. 01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:46.960 And like I never said anything to him. 01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:49.360 I never went and said, Hey, I prayed for you last night. 01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:51.280 I never said any of those things, I just did it. 01:04:51.440 --> 01:05:00.800 And another guy, his name is also Mike, and he has diabetes, and I prayed that his ba his sugars would be balanced and that he would know that you are the true living God. 01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:03.360 And the next day he never had to take insulin. 01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:05.679 And he was just like, he was freaked out. 01:05:05.840 --> 01:05:07.760 Both of them were just like, What just happened, right? 01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:09.920 And I never really said anything to either of them. 01:05:10.079 --> 01:05:14.719 And in that experience, God had showed me that I'll give you whatever you ask for. 01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:20.800 After that, there was a time, um, and this is still in the program a teen challenge, right? 01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:21.119 Mm-hmm. 01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:30.559 And I'm sitting down in the morning and I'm reading, and I hear I hear the speech of the Lord say me, I want you to go and give this man a gift from me. 01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:33.679 And I said, What gift do you have for him, Lord? 01:05:33.840 --> 01:05:42.079 And he says, I want you to tell him that the kingdom of God is now his And I just was like, I never met this guy, he just came in the program. 01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:43.519 Like just came in the program. 01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:45.119 I didn't know him from a hole in the ground. 01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:46.400 I'm a good friend with him now. 01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:46.800 Mm-hmm. 01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:52.400 But I I didn't know him from a hole in the ground and I'm just like Like this is kinda awkward, you know. 01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:57.679 So I like I walk up to him and I'm just like, Hey, I said, God has a gift for you today. 01:05:57.760 --> 01:05:58.800 Do you wish to receive it? 01:05:59.039 --> 01:05:59.840 And he said, I do. 01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:03.119 I said, okay, I want you to meet me in the chapel in five minutes. 01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:04.559 So I'm just gonna drop my stuff off. 01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:06.800 And I guess I had been mentoring some guys at that time. 01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:08.320 So I went and got them. 01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:12.559 Some guys who are newer in the faith and and I wanted them to see what God can do. 01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:14.480 So I went up to them, I said, Come with me. 01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:17.679 I want you to come with me and I want you to I want you to see what God's gonna do. 01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:25.599 So I went and got two of them and they came in there with me and he was sitting in there already waiting for me and he stood up right away and he came to me and he's like, What is this? 01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:27.920 You know, I said these guys are here to catch you. 01:06:28.239 --> 01:06:29.360 And he said, Catch me. 01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:31.599 I said, Yeah, you're gonna need to be caught. 01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:32.960 And he said, Okay. 01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:38.880 He said, So I put my hand on him and I said, Today is the day you receive the kingdom of God. 01:06:39.199 --> 01:06:41.840 And all of a sudden he just went fell back like a rock. 01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:45.039 Boom! Like he didn't actually fall, they caught him,

right? 01:06:45.119 --> 01:06:47.920 But if he did fall, it would have just like his body went limp. 01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:50.400 And the guys caught him and helped him down to the ground. 01:06:50.559 --> 01:07:00.079 I kept praying over him and he his body started jumping, moving all around, and then all of a sudden he just went still and he was just laying there and he just started smiling, this huge smile on his face. 01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:07.679 Big guy, big smile on his face, and I'm like, uh he sits up and he's like he's like, I love you, man. 01:07:07.840 --> 01:07:09.840 And he comes and he gives me this huge hug, right? 01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:21.199 He's like, You have no idea, but this morning I was reading Matthew chapter seven and it and it's uh the Sermon on the Mount, where he says the kingdom of God belongs to these, those who are meek, he will inherit the earth. 01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:23.599 And he's and he lists up all these things, right? 01:07:23.679 --> 01:07:30.159 That the kingdom of God belongs to such as these, and he lists off all the p all the characteristics of those who belong. 01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:38.400 After that I prayed for another gentleman, and along the same thing, except I broke out praying in tongues, and I don't normally just pray in tongues. 01:07:38.719 --> 01:07:43.840 Like when the spirit comes over me and I start uttering in tongues, then that then I let that utterance go. 01:07:44.159 --> 01:07:54.159 Or we're doing a Bible study with the guys, and the Lord says to me, I want you to tell them that they can be freed from soul ties if they come. 01:07:55.119 --> 01:08:12.400 And I was like, sitting there with like eight guys and myself in this room and we just finished the Bible study and I prayed, and like just a blessing that you know if the enemy wouldn't come steal the seed that God sowed, and that they would apply what they learned today to their lives and that God would that they would let it grow, right? 01:08:13.039 --> 01:08:28.800 And uh at the end I said, God want me to tell you guys this, that if anybody wants freedom from soul ties from ex-relationships and things that are hindering you in your faith to come to me, you don't have to say it right here, right now, but come and find me, and you can be freed from that. 01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:33.600 So a day or two goes by and there's about four guys one after another. 01:08:33.840 --> 01:08:34.319 They all came. 01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:42.479 And they said they said to me, I I have a soul tie with my ex, my ex-fiance, my ex-wife, my ex, whatever, right? 01:08:42.960 --> 01:08:55.119 And I I always think about it and it drags me away from God and I I it it it it uh um I guess it like it stirs up the flash in me and I and I want to leave this program because of it. 01:08:55.600 --> 01:09:00.159 And they said so they came and one at a time and I was like, God, I don't know how to do this. 01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:02.079 Like, what am I supposed to say? 01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:04.239 And he said, it's like a courtroom. 01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:06.079 He said, Come before me at the throne. 01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:09.680 So when I prayed with him, it went something along these lines. 01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:14.079 It was like, Lord, we come before you here in your most holy throne. 01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:20.399 I stand before you here on account of my brother who wishes to have this soul tie broken. 01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:34.800 But first I would like for him to speak on his own behalf, and I would say, Now I want you to repent before the throne room for what you've done, having a covenant relations outside of the what God had had designed for us. 01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:44.000 And they would repent, and immediately I would say, and now the the weight of the glory would break the chains that are on them, and they're free from that soul tie. 01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:48.319 And immediately something would happen to each one of them, but it was different for each of them. 01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:51.760 Some of them said they felt a spirit come off them like a blanket. 01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:57.520 Some said they felt like this snapping like a glow stick inside of their inside of their most inner being. 01:09:57.760 --> 01:09:59.760 And you know, there was a few others, right? 01:09:59.840 --> 01:10:06.399 And after that happened, I realized that we we have authority to to break demonic hold over people's lives. 01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:12.960 So I got a book and it it's called Um When Pigs Fly, Lock Up, or Lock Up and Lock Out Demons. 01:10:13.039 --> 01:10:21.600 He's a deliverance minister who works inside of the federal prison system in the United States, and he's been doing uh Don Dickerman. 01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:30.319 He's been doing that ministry for generations and generations, and at the beginning, the very beginning of the book, it talks about like not knowing what to do. 01:10:30.399 --> 01:10:40.000 And he went into a deliverance session where this lady that was in a maximum prison in the United States had murdered her last three or four boyfriends and killed them all. 01:10:40.159 --> 01:10:42.640 And she said, There's a demon and I I want to be free. 01:10:42.800 --> 01:10:44.399 And she'd been locked up for years. 01:10:44.560 --> 01:10:48.159 I don't know if a decade, but there had been a long time she'd been locked up already. 01:10:48.560 --> 01:11:08.479 And so she went to meet him and and he explained his experience where she like started like talking in a different language and like spitting and just like completely like morphing into this different different person and that he had to deal with this demon and he didn't know anything what he was doing, and it reminded me of like those moments with the soul ties. 01:11:08.640 --> 01:11:12.319 It was just like sometimes God just calls you but you don't know what you're doing. 01:11:12.960 --> 01:11:16.560 You know, and after I read

that book, uh a guy came up to me. 01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:18.079 Two guys. 01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:25.439 What the first one, my brother, he just graduated teen challenge and he comes up to me and he's like, I think there's a I think there's a demon. 01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:29.520 There's something that's inside of me that's stopping me and I I want to be free. 01:11:29.840 --> 01:11:31.680 And I said, Well, explain to me how you feel. 01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:35.840 What what is it what is it that makes you angered or what is it that stirs up that in you? 01:11:36.239 --> 01:11:43.840 And he says, Well, I have like this uh racial thing where I'm just really like racist towards certain people. 01:11:44.239 --> 01:11:46.079 And he says, and I just I hate them. 01:11:46.479 --> 01:11:48.640 And he said, I and I don't want to feel that way. 01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:52.640 He said, and I and I feel like there's like just something there that's behind me. 01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:56.399 And I I just asked him plain, I said, Do you want to be freed from that? 01:11:57.199 --> 01:11:58.319 And he said, Yeah, I do. 01:11:58.560 --> 01:11:59.920 He's like, that's why I came to you. 01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:01.119 And I said, Okay. 01:12:01.439 --> 01:12:03.439 I said, let's go up to my room and start praying. 01:12:04.319 --> 01:12:09.680 And uh he he's like he's like all of a sudden he's like starts bending over and he's holding his stomach. 01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:12.000 And I was like, What is that spirit telling you? 01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:15.119 And he's he's like, he's telling me that you can't free me. 01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:16.800 And I said, He's a liar. 01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:18.880 He said, Today you're gonna be free. 01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:22.880 And then he's like starts grabbing his chest and I said, What's going on now? 01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:26.479 And he says, I have so much fear coming over me, I can't even move my legs. 01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:28.479 So then I cast that spirit of fear away. 01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:31.680 I said, Get away from him right now in Jesus' name, get off him now. 01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:32.880 And that spirit left. 01:12:32.960 --> 01:12:35.840 I said, Let's go right now, me and you, you're gonna be free today. 01:12:36.079 --> 01:12:40.800 So we go up to my room and I close the door and I barely even had to pray for him. 01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:44.479 I just said, Father, we come before you in the throne room, and he starts vomiting. 01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:51.920 Just starts puking, puke, and he starts running down the hallway, and I'm just like, You're not getting away from me today. 01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:54.720 And I just, you know, just were you smiling like that? 01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:55.520 Oh, for sure. 01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:56.880 I was I was on him, bro. 01:12:56.960 --> 01:12:58.880 I was like, You're done, you're done. 01:12:59.359 --> 01:13:06.159 You know, so I follow him into the bathroom and he's in the toilet stall, and he's just like, just puking, right? 01:13:06.239 --> 01:13:09.439 And I put my hand on him and I just start praying loud. 01:13:09.760 --> 01:13:13.439 Fire God, fire God, come down, free this man right now. 01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:14.880 You're not welcome here, Jezebel. 01:13:15.039 --> 01:13:16.319 You're not welcome here, Arab. 01:13:16.880 --> 01:13:18.000 You're not welcome here. 01:13:18.079 --> 01:13:19.840 You can go now in Jesus' name. 01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:26.560 And he I remember like looking at him, and he like turns and looks at me, and he just like this evil look in his eyes. 01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:28.720 And I was like, get out of him right now. 01:13:28.800 --> 01:13:29.680 You don't belong here. 01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:31.279 This man belongs to God. 01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:32.640 He's a child of God. 01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:34.159 You have to leave right now. 01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:35.840 Leave in Jesus' name. 01:13:36.079 --> 01:13:41.760 And all of a sudden it was just like boom, it came off of him, and I heard the doors open it in the facility. 01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:49.039 Like all the doors were closed, and like it went through every door, opened every door on its way out of the building, and the dog starts barking. 01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:54.479 The dog starts going crazy, all the staff members start coming out because they can hear like me praying for this guy, right? 01:13:54.720 --> 01:13:55.439 This is that team challenge. 01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:56.800 This is in team challenge, yeah. 01:13:56.880 --> 01:13:58.319 Yeah, this is in team challenge. 01:13:58.399 --> 01:14:04.159 The counselor that I was talking about earlier, he came running first and the dog was with him because the dog was just freaking out, bare. 01:14:04.399 --> 01:14:05.439 He's just freaking out. 01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:08.000 He looks at me and he's like, What just happened to me? 01:14:08.159 --> 01:14:09.760 And I said, You're free, my brother. 01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:11.039 I said, You're free. 01:14:11.199 --> 01:14:13.039 He said, It's not here anymore, you're free. 01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:16.079 And he's just he gave me a hug and he's like, I need to go for a walk. 01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:17.039 And I said, That's all right. 01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:18.239 You go for a walk. 01:14:18.479 --> 01:14:21.279 Um, so I want to finish up with that pharmacaea, yeah. 01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:21.920 If that's all right. 01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:22.319 Yeah. 01:14:22.479 --> 01:14:26.000 So the pharmacaea is like the I got I got a little bit here. 01:14:26.079 --> 01:14:28.479 I'm just gonna, if I can do this quickly. 01:14:28.640 --> 01:14:30.399 Um When did you start learning about that? 01:14:30.560 --> 01:14:31.840 When did that word come into your life? 01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:33.840 Oh, it's actually really funny how that happened. 01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:35.840 It was actually to prove somebody wrong. 01:14:36.079 --> 01:14:36.159 Okay.

01:14:36.560 --> 01:14:38.079 It was like how I how I learned about it. 01:14:38.159 --> 01:14:41.279 So it was like there was uh you cop the resentment and now you're smarter. 01:14:41.439 --> 01:14:43.600 Yeah, yeah, that's kind of how it happened, right? 01:14:43.680 --> 01:14:48.880 It was kind of like that puffed up moment, but it was like it was also like you're wrong and what you're teaching is not right. 01:14:49.439 --> 01:14:53.520 So I was like this guy who was a guy who went to Bible college. 01:14:53.680 --> 01:14:57.920 Um, he the guys in the program used to say that's craft all the time. 01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:01.359 So like if anything was like suspicious, anything was sus or whatever, right? 01:15:01.439 --> 01:15:05.920 They'd be like, Oh, that's craft or that's craft, and they would do it just like jokingly, right? 01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:12.159 And it just became like this inside joke inside of the program, and the spiritual leader did not like that at the time. 01:15:12.319 --> 01:15:18.720 Hey, he's like, you know, I'm gonna put an end to this, so I'm gonna show these guys what you know what craft is. 01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:23.199 So he started using that scripture, the pharmacaea, right? 01:15:23.359 --> 01:15:26.079 The understanding of pharmacae and its sorcery, right? 01:15:26.159 --> 01:15:34.000 So he associated drug use with sorcery inside of itself, and that like we all have participated in witchcraft. 01:15:34.239 --> 01:15:37.680 And so then I was just like, I I just didn't sit right with me. 01:15:37.840 --> 01:15:39.680 It didn't sit right with me a hundred percent. 01:15:39.840 --> 01:15:42.479 I was like, you know, I want to learn more about this, right? 01:15:42.560 --> 01:15:46.079 I want to prove this guy wrong that what he's teaching is not that's not true. 01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:48.079 That's not a hundred percent true, right? 01:15:48.159 --> 01:15:58.239 I do believe that it does have doorways, and I do believe that it it alters your mind to make decisions that can allow that kind of activity in your life. 01:15:58.399 --> 01:16:12.000 Um, but pharmacay itself is a Greek word that's used in the New Testament, and the word can mean sorcery, magic, witchcraft, enchantment, potions, drugs, or medical substances and poisons. 01:16:12.640 --> 01:16:26.239 So in the New Testament, the passages that people use are uh Galatians 5, verse 20, which says, Among the works of the flesh is commonly translated to sorcery or witchcraft, which is that pharmakaea. 01:16:26.399 --> 01:16:39.279 Uh Revelation 9 21 refers to the people refusing to repent of their pharmaka and Revelation 1823, where in Babylon is sold to have and deceive the nations through its pharmaka. 01:16:40.880 --> 01:16:49.520 So the word for pharmakaea that's in there is actually translated to sorcerer or practitioner of magical arts. 01:16:49.840 --> 01:17:05.039 So in first century, in the temples and in pagan worship, anything outside of Christ, these are little gods, little lowercase g, and they're not they're not God at all, but they are spirits of the enemy. 01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:18.239 When all these spirits came, and this might stir up some controversy, and I'm gonna say it anyways, is like some of these doctrines that people have received outside of the word of God is from the enemy, is from the devil. 01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:19.039 Like what? 01:17:19.199 --> 01:17:26.399 Like we're talking Hinduism, we're talking Buddhism, we're talking praying to ancestors, praying to all these things that have no power. 01:17:26.960 --> 01:17:27.680 None of it. 01:17:27.840 --> 01:17:29.439 It's all deception. 01:17:29.760 --> 01:17:33.520 Anything that has left here has gone back to where it was from. 01:17:33.680 --> 01:17:37.600 And there was a time in my life where I believed I sold my soul to the devil. 01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:41.439 But God showed me that you can't sell something that doesn't belong to you. 01:17:43.199 --> 01:17:44.399 It doesn't belong to you. 01:17:44.560 --> 01:17:49.199 It goes back to where it came from, the creator of everything, heaven and earth, and all that's in it. 01:17:49.359 --> 01:17:50.800 Everything goes back to him. 01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:51.760 Everything. 01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:53.119 Nothing stays here. 01:17:53.439 --> 01:17:56.720 The only thing that's here is the enemy when he fell from heaven. 01:17:56.960 --> 01:17:59.439 And he rules and reigns here down on earth. 01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:07.359 But God has given us victory through Jesus Christ, through his son, that we have authority over anything that he does here down on down on earth. 01:18:07.520 --> 01:18:15.920 And anything outside of that, anything outside of that message, the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ is given through the de through the devil. 01:18:17.279 --> 01:18:27.680 So um going on a little bit, it's like the the refer the referring of uh pharmacaea or pharmacaos is is a practitioner of magical art. 01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:33.199 So that translation and that wording in the Greek is somebody who is practicing magical arts. 01:18:33.279 --> 01:18:44.640 So in the first century, they would make like uh in temples and doing temple worship, and that's why I'm saying this that's of the devil, is because inside those temples they were worshiping gods they believed were gods too. 01:18:44.880 --> 01:18:49.680 They they believed that this is the way that the world was created and this is the way that it operates. 01:18:49.840 --> 01:18:58.800 And the thing about the enemy is that he does have some power here, so there there is a little bit of evidence in behind that that there's power in that, and that's true. 01:18:58.960 --> 01:19:05.279 The enemy does have power, but not power over Jesus Christ, not power over God who created Satan himself. 01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:12.479 He does not have power over that, and we've been given that power through Jesus Christ, through the

belief in him and walking in obedience and surrender. 01:19:12.640 --> 01:19:17.119 Because you see lots of believers who are still dealing like even myself, right? 01:19:17.279 --> 01:19:18.560 Like I talked about. 01:19:18.880 --> 01:19:25.840 I still had spirits on me, and I was still I experienced the glory of God and it changed my life, and I still didn't have that complete freedom. 01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:29.199 And I but I wasn't surrendered and I wasn't obedient to God's call. 01:19:29.359 --> 01:19:38.560 But during that year and teen challenge, I got freed from that stuff, and I realized there's so much power and surrender, and God told me the most powerful thing that I could use is a surrendered life. 01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:44.800 So the the word pharmaca is it's the word we get pharmacy from. 01:19:45.199 --> 01:20:15.119 So a lot of people associate drug use with that word pharmacaea, but it's actually more around the word of medical use, because there was still medical stuff that they used, and there were in um the first century, there were still mind-altering substances that were made through incantations and through potions that were used on people where that can be a little bit mistranslated from, where it seems like you know, if you're using drugs, you're participating in witchcraft and sorcery. 01:20:15.279 --> 01:20:21.600 But it's like that that reference to what he's talking about there is to someone who is operating in the occult. 01:20:21.840 --> 01:20:37.279 They're not operating as a believer who say, you know, or even a non-believer who's smoking marijuana, but I still believe that there's when that altering substance comes in and you are putting something before God, that you have created an idol. 01:20:37.439 --> 01:20:39.520 You've created a God that you're worshiping. 01:20:39.760 --> 01:20:47.600 So it's like if people like when I smoked weed, it was like, oh, I needed it to sleep, I needed it to be calm, I needed it to this, I needed it when I'm stressed. 01:20:47.840 --> 01:20:54.159 It was like instead of taking those worries and stress and anxieties and things to God, I use something else instead. 01:20:54.399 --> 01:21:04.479 Instead of taking him to the Creator Himself, I put up this idol, I put up this God that I would go to when I needed something, and that can open doorways to itself. 01:21:04.880 --> 01:21:14.800 But the in the word itself, it's speaking about actual occult activity that was inside the church, like human sacrificing, orgies, all this stuff, right? 01:21:14.880 --> 01:21:19.279 These were occult activities that were used to worship gods who were really demons. 01:21:19.680 --> 01:21:34.880 And that word pharmacaea is uh is more wrapped around um the idea of sorcery and pharmacaos, which is the one I spoke about in Revelation, is the same root word, but it's the person our practitioner of. 01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:46.079 So it's like it's a person who operates in the occult or in witchcraft, in you know, Satanism, you know, and operates in those those realms, right? 01:21:46.239 --> 01:22:07.039 It's not drugs in itself that um that open that doorway, even though I've you know we've experienced where you see shadow people, where you see things in a realm, it's like it's not that in itself that opens that doorway, but it is the mind altering that that allows you to see things that you probably shouldn't be seeing. 01:22:07.600 --> 01:22:24.720 Because I believe that if we seen what's going on, like how I seen that vision of the of the knights that were all light and the the warriors that were all black, if we seen the true spiritual war that was going on around us in real time, you'd probably lose your mind. 01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:27.920 Uh is there is there anything that you wanted to leave us with? 01:22:28.079 --> 01:22:34.960 Anybody who might be listening, who might be living that life that you once lived, um, thinking they can't do it, think it's not possible, think you're full of shit. 01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:36.880 What do you want to leave us with today? 01:22:37.279 --> 01:22:40.239 Um my life is evidence of the change. 01:22:40.800 --> 01:22:49.840 And what I do here and what I do now is evidence of what I've seen because if something didn't happen in my life, I still would be the same. 01:22:50.079 --> 01:22:53.199 But something so dramatically changed in my life. 01:22:53.439 --> 01:23:03.920 And this is the one thing I'd like to say for those maybe who are have a stance against Christ, stance against that belief, is that what if you're wrong? 01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:21.279 What if you're wrong and the end time comes, and you all stand before a judge who gave you a way, who who had mercy on a plate, who had mercy on a cross for anybody who called on his name, anybody who believed. 01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:27.840 And what happens if what happens if what I said is right, or if what I said is wrong? 01:23:28.159 --> 01:23:30.720 Then I still lived a life surrendered to other people. 01:23:30.880 --> 01:23:34.960 I still loved, I still cared, and I still shared the hope that I have. 01:23:35.199 --> 01:23:38.720 That's the only thing that that's the only what is there to lose? 01:23:39.520 --> 01:23:40.880 You hold ministry. 01:23:41.359 --> 01:23:44.800 Yeah, yeah, here in Saskatoon, we go down on 20th Street. 01:23:44.960 --> 01:23:51.760 I usually preach, uh, usually sharing a message like either salvation or the kingdom of heaven and sharing about parables like I just shared about, right? 01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:53.279 And I share that with those. 01:23:53.359 --> 01:23:55.279 We pray for people, we try to help people, right? 01:23:56.479 --> 01:24:02.000 Uh I guess you look at the book of Acts, uh, Apostle Paul had a vision and it changed his life. 01:24:02.319 --> 01:24:19.439 And uh when he came back, he went out to the desert for three years, and when he came back, he went to Jerusalem and he said, Um, you know, I want to

I want to make sure that the revelation that I've received is the same one that you are preaching, so that I'm not wasting my time that we are in agreement that this is a this is from God. 01:24:19.680 --> 01:24:23.760 And he said they had nothing to add to what God had revealed to him. 01:24:24.319 --> 01:24:28.800 And he said, I I want to just share one thing with you, do not forget the poor. 01:24:28.960 --> 01:24:31.199 And do not forget the needy on your way. 01:24:31.439 --> 01:24:36.720 So he shared the message and he cared for those who were in need, and that's what we do. 01:24:36.880 --> 01:24:43.119 Me and my wife, we don't we're not supported by any ministry, we're not backed by any funding or anything like that. 01:24:43.279 --> 01:24:56.000 You know, I work, she works, we take our money and we go to the streets with it with true love, and I don't preach hell, I don't preach condemnation, I don't preach hellfire and brimstone, I preach salvation, I preach hope, I preach love. 01:24:56.399 --> 01:25:12.640 And you know, we're starting a t-shirt company that has street art uh graphics that are all Christian based, and you know, we'll be releasing that in this next year, so I'm working on getting a a grant through the Aboriginal Entrepreneur Program. 01:25:12.800 --> 01:25:19.119 You know, with that it's getting the word of God out on a t-shirt and and a cool design and something that's like, you know, people want to wear. 01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:23.520 And it it helps us with our ministry and you know, doing that kind of thing. 01:25:23.680 --> 01:25:33.760 But our heart, my heart and my wife's heart are both in the streets for those who are hurting and broken because we drive by them every day and you know, not everybody stops. 01:25:34.000 --> 01:25:34.239 Yeah. 01:25:34.399 --> 01:25:38.800 And I and I don't mean to like, you know, make anybody feel bad or shame anybody, that's not it. 01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:40.640 I just mean that's my heart's cry. 01:25:40.880 --> 01:25:42.960 As for those who are there, because I was there. 01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:49.439 You know, two years ago I was driving around on the bicycle cutting copper down off uh power poles. 01:25:49.760 --> 01:25:50.079 Wow. 01:25:50.319 --> 01:25:51.920 And that's what God can do. 01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:53.199 You know. 01:25:54.399 --> 01:25:55.920 Jordan, thanks for joining me today. 01:25:56.399 --> 01:25:59.439 Um, I'll make sure I put your email in the show notes. 01:25:59.520 --> 01:26:01.279 If you want to reach out to Jordan, you can. 01:26:01.439 --> 01:26:02.880 And and I suppose that's it. 01:26:02.960 --> 01:26:04.239 Uh, thank you for being here today. 01:26:04.319 --> 01:26:08.239 Thank you for sharing and and and honestly um sharing your knowledge with us. 01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:10.399 And uh and take take good care, my friend. 01:26:10.640 --> 01:26:11.199 Thank you, my brother. 01:26:11.279 --> 01:26:12.000 Thank you for having me. 01:26:12.079 --> 01:26:15.119 God bless you guys, and uh look to see you guys on the other side. 01:26:15.439 --> 01:26:16.000 Hold up. 01:26:16.159 --> 01:26:23.520 If this hit home or made you think, help us get these stories out there, smash that like button, drop a comment, and before you go, check out another episode. 01:26:23.680 --> 01:26:28.000 The more you engage, the more the algorithm shares these voices with the people who need to hear them. 01:26:28.159 --> 01:26:36.960 Big shout out to SEIU West, our official equipment sponsor, improving the lives of working people and their families and leading the way to a more just and humane society. 01:26:37.119 --> 01:26:38.800 Find their link in the show notes. 01:26:39.119 --> 01:26:40.960 Say, this is Hard Knocks Talks.