Software Bugs, Battery Settings, and the Belgian Grand Prix의 전체 녹취록

think, throughout the weekend. 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:52.800 And, you know, after a few races off or off the top of the podium and having some kind of bad luck issues, I think Flowers gotta go to Kimmy this week. 00:02:52.960 --> 00:03:15.280 I mean, yeah, kid got another win, was fastest the whole weekend, outqualified his teammate, obviously, but even outqualified kind of a surging max and Lando and Charles, all of them had, I think, on any other day, they would have thought, oh, that's polled. 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:18.800 But Kimmy outqualified him by like three tenths or something like that. 00:03:19.120 --> 00:03:20.240 Kind of insane. 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:27.520 And then he just kind of went on and he didn't blow away the field, but he was you were convinced he was gonna win. 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:29.120 Yeah, it was gonna take a lot. 00:03:29.439 --> 00:03:32.639 After turn four, basically. 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:35.439 Uh, once he got past max again. 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:45.199 Well, and later, like after that virtual safety car, which we'll never know why, uh, because what goes on track, what happens on track, stays on track. 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:53.360 F1 TV's guy doesn't want to let us know what's happening elsewhere, but yeah, it was pretty tough for it was gonna be a tough one for Kimmy to lose. 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:55.120 Yeah, but I thought he did great. 00:03:55.199 --> 00:04:00.159 I thought a lot of those other drivers in the top, you know, 5'6 did really well. 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:10.000 LeClaire, we were kind of, I don't want to say bad mouthing him, but but kind of being real about how he was doing throughout the season. 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:17.279 And then last two races, that's a win and close to another win, but P2. 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:20.639 I mean, looks like he's back on track in that Ferrari. 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:25.199 I mean, we've said this should be his team, not Lewis's, and Lewis is looking like it's his team. 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:28.079 But the last couple weeks, Charles was put up a fight. 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:29.680 Yeah, so that's good to see. 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:37.839 And then, you know, even Max is grumpy, and I think he's gonna stay grumpy for the rest of the season, maybe the rest of his career. 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:38.800 I don't really know. 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:45.040 But, you know, even a grumpy Max got a lot out of that Red Bull and looked pretty good. 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:55.279 So I think, you know, we have a lot of good stuff to watch the front, but that doesn't, you know, dismiss a lot of the other good stuff that happens further back. 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:57.600 Yeah, with northern Europeans, you can never tell. 00:04:57.759 --> 00:05:00.560 I mean, he could be a winsome fellow for all we know. 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:06.560 He could be joyous, you know, but he's northern European, so I can never tell if he really is a grown beer. 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:09.040 If he's having a good day, it's always hard to tell. 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:12.720 This was a unique race, and you know, it's always hard to predict the future. 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:21.199 But I'm not sure we saw this one coming because this race was heavily decided by battery power and software glitches. 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:25.839 You know, in the old days, that that was not a thing. 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:33.279 But in F1 in 2026, software glitches and battery power, you know, this is the you know, like what am I watching? 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:34.959 Watching an iPhone, you know. 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:40.399 But now the other big story was I mean, this is the revenge of the youth. 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:59.360 You know, you talked about this before where outside of Lewis, who's pretty amazing, these new guys, it's the younger guys that seem to have, despite all the complaining from Max, Carlos Sainz, some of the old guys, a lot of old fans, these younger drivers, it's like, oh, there's software, there's battery, I gotta manage. 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:07.120 There's there's the um how I drive in the straights with my battery, how I'm connected to my team, all the stuff that's going on. 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:10.160 They seem less phase light. 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:11.759 They're they're adapting well. 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:16.240 Yeah, I mean, they they all look pretty darn good for the most part. 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:25.279 I think they're getting the hang of it, and just seems more kind of comfortable and easy for them. 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:31.199 I mean, Kimmy for one is just beating George at every turn. 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:43.199 I'm not sure exactly what's going on with George, why he's struggling so much, but definitely Kimmy coming into this season, nobody really expected him to be where he is right now. 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:53.680 And and I think it's just because he seems quicker to and maybe more willing to kind of adapt to this new driving style and what you have to do. 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:58.079 But that's sort of similar across the board with with young teammates, right? 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:06.319 Bordoletto is clearly outperforming Hulkenberg in that Audi, and he just seems more comfortable overall. 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:06.879 Yep. 00:07:07.120 --> 00:07:14.879 Cola Pinto even has seemed to be over the last several races a lot more comfortable than Gasly. 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:21.360 Gasly doesn't look totally out of it, but it just seems to be sort of the way that things are going. 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:26.000 Behrman, you know, looks looks better than Ocon does. 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:45.120 It could be a number of things, but the most sort of obvious of those seems to be the fact that, yeah, they're just more willing to adapt and and maybe quicker to adapt to these sort of new cars and the way they have to drive. 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:45.920 So right. 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:48.480 Even Hedger, I

mean, he had a hell of a race. 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:56.160 And no, he's not equal Max or better, but Max usually destroys his teammates, and Hedgeh's hanging, and he has been. 00:07:56.319 --> 00:08:12.720 So I think I think there's something to this theory of of ours, but it's like these are sort of software-baked cars, they're battery power, they're deeply connected with their engineers, with their team, and the younger guys intuit this better, adapt to it faster. 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:16.240 So, you know, you talked about Kimmy and George though. 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:21.279 I don't think there's any sabotage, but is there sabotage? 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:30.720 I mean, Kimmy does look better, but it also seems like Toto favors him, it seems. 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:33.519 And it seems like he has the better car. 00:08:33.919 --> 00:08:38.720 Reliability issues, it's you know, we're 10 races in, that's that's still a small sample. 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:40.799 But dang, you look at the data. 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:44.559 It looks like on the streets, Kimmy's car is faster than George's. 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:48.080 Yeah, I don't that does seem weird. 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:58.480 I think they need to kind of figure out what the heck is going on there, why George is so slow, because he does seem much slower on the straights. 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:15.519 I don't know if it's exclusively due to kind of their deployment strategies, you know, battery-powered deployment strategies, because obviously that is gonna play a major factor in how fast you can go down those straights. 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:20.960 But George got swallowed up out of the gates by you know everybody else. 00:09:21.200 --> 00:09:35.440 And Kimmy kind of played it safe and smart, it seemed like, at the start of this race, and Max was able to get around him, and then immediately Antonelli just goes and and passes him because he has more speed. 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:42.559 George didn't seem like he was able to do that, even if he got swallowed up and passed, there was no way he was coming back. 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:47.919 So he tried a late lunge and cost himself a shot at finishing the race at all. 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:48.559 Yeah. 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:51.039 18 to 25 points, probably. 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:51.919 Yeah. 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:56.320 You you you ever wonder like, is it because he's so much bigger than Kimmy? 00:09:56.480 --> 00:09:58.960 Is there a tenth of a second on the street for that? 00:09:59.120 --> 00:09:59.919 I don't know. 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:01.519 Yeah, I don't know. 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:07.120 I mean, they do have to all be all the cars have to be within, you know, weight specs. 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:08.960 So it's weird. 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:12.159 I don't know why they would have an issue. 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:21.600 It seems like it stemmed from or has been known for quite a bit of time at this point that he has this this issue. 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:27.440 So it seems weird that they haven't resolved it yet, if it's something that they can resolve. 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:30.559 So it's a little confusing, unclear. 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:32.000 Could be sabotage. 00:10:32.320 --> 00:10:34.240 It would be good if it was sabotage. 00:10:34.559 --> 00:10:35.440 It would be fun. 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:39.120 I think we need we need a little we do, we do. 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:40.960 F1's too corporate, you know. 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:44.639 It's like it's like it's like something, you know, it's like working at Google or Apple. 00:10:44.720 --> 00:10:46.399 It's a software-based company. 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:52.159 If Kimmy turns out to be Tanya Harding, I mean, look, I'd be okay with that. 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:53.519 So funny. 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:54.240 Funny. 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:58.240 I mean, and Kimmy, but damn though, he's got what is it, six? 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:05.919 I mean, months ago I was I said, crazy prediction, he's gonna get to 10 before before Oscar, before Charles? 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:08.639 And I mean, he's he's edging closer. 00:11:08.879 --> 00:11:11.679 I I should have put some big money down on that bet. 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:19.919 I don't know if such a bet existed, but LeClaire, because he got his ninth last race out. 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:23.840 A little a little touch and go. 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:28.159 Oscar doesn't uh McLaren doesn't seem likely. 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:28.799 Yeah. 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:32.960 If if McLaren wins, it seems more like it's coming from Lando. 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:36.159 He just seems to be faster generally. 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:51.759 Unfortunately, you know, he had to take a big old grid penalty for his new power unit in this race, but he looked pretty quick in this race, and Oscar just was sort of meandering along, as McLaren has done all season, it seems like. 00:11:53.679 --> 00:12:01.840 I mean, really, since about this time last year was when Lando sort of started asserting himself in the McLaren team, and he hasn't looked back. 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:08.159 Oscar's been struggling a bit, but the whole McLaren team this year, it's just been odd the way they've sort of flailed around. 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:17.279 What did you think of the um we talked about the start, we talked about George getting swallowed up, but Lewis got a penalty, Charles did not. 00:12:17.440 --> 00:12:21.360 Now, I thought the stewards were right in getting Lewis. 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:22.879 Lewis is a dick. 00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:29.440 Nobody is nobody's better at this than getting the elbows out, knocking the guy out without just on the ass. 00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:31.679 Like, oh, is that a racing incident or not? 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:35.200 Nobody is better at that than Lewis Hamilton. 00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:44.720 Even though like I always feel like there should be much more leniency in lap

one and that sort of crowd right after the start. 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:46.159 But I don't know. 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:51.679 There there seemed to be a mild controversy that Lewis got a penalty and later on Charles did not. 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:59.679 Yeah, I I don't know about controversy, but I don't think either one of them should have been penalized. 00:12:59.919 --> 00:13:00.559 I don't know. 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:16.240 I think people are really a little too worried about, I shouldn't say they're too worried about any kind of contact, but like you got 22 cars on a track, yeah, sometimes you're gonna run out of room. 00:13:16.559 --> 00:13:17.039 Right. 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:17.360 Right. 00:13:17.600 --> 00:13:18.720 And you're gonna touch. 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:22.480 And sometimes it sends a car flying, sometimes it doesn't. 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:23.279 I don't know. 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:28.559 But I don't think it I don't think either one was malicious. 00:13:29.039 --> 00:13:43.519 And I don't think that like when I watched Lewis, I immediately thought, oh, there's no chance he gets a penalty because he was well ahead of George at the turn. 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:50.720 He was breaking well before George to make the turn, and at no point did he ever open up the steering wheel. 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:56.480 He was always turning to the right, and George came across and collided. 00:13:56.720 --> 00:14:03.919 I think unfortunately for George that ended his race, but I don't think Lewis really did anything wrong. 00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:08.000 He didn't back out, but I don't think like he made the corner. 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:09.600 Like, why would he back out? 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:12.720 I do want to say though, I think it'd go either way. 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:15.360 The Stewart could say the penalty or not. 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:22.480 I like the fact that Stewart's penalize in real time rather than three weeks later after the race. 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:26.879 And I don't think Lewis is malicious, it's it's just he's hyper competitive. 00:14:26.960 --> 00:14:28.000 These guys are hyper competitive. 00:14:28.080 --> 00:14:30.240 It's like, you know, there's a World Cup going on. 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:32.879 Someone rushes in and kind of trips the guy. 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:36.000 It's not like, hey, you know, I don't like you or your mother. 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:38.720 It's like, hey, I'm gonna take you out because I can't. 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:40.480 I I think I have a chance to take you out. 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:41.759 Why wouldn't I? 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:45.120 Um so that's kind of you know what I thought. 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:47.679 I mean, I think that's fair. 00:14:47.919 --> 00:15:03.519 It seemed to me like they only punished Lewis because of the outcome, like because George was stranded essentially in gravel afterwards, but I don't think it was really that bad. 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:11.679 It was just like high speed and you touch and you're going around a turn, like you're just spinning off into nowhere. 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:24.960 Yeah, I know Will Buxton, who's now does indie, he was one of those that was sort of saying Lewis gets five-second penalty because of the outcome, which is George is out of the race rather than the act. 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:27.919 So which is glib. 00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:38.159 Yeah, I thought both both of those incidents, the one with Charles and with Lewis, I wouldn't have punished them. 00:15:38.559 --> 00:15:50.080 I think, you know, both of them were just kind of going into a corner and somebody was trying to go around the outside, and I think they both had the corner. 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:53.440 Maybe it was a little, what's a good word? 00:15:53.919 --> 00:15:58.000 Devious, but like not malicious. 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:06.320 And if they have the corner and the inside, well then the guy going around the outside, like back the fuck out. 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:10.720 Oscar didn't do that, and and George didn't do that. 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:19.200 Luckily for Oscar, all he got was you know a little side pod damage or whatever it was, part of the floor or something. 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:21.519 Unfortunately for George, he went off. 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:26.720 I think that's actually on those two drivers for causing those outcomes. 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:29.519 Quick look at the standings. 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:32.879 Kimmy still up front, 204 points. 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:35.919 Lewis now back in P2 at 159. 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:37.360 So what is that? 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:40.080 45 behind. 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:43.600 George 154. 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:54.480 I mean, we expect George to be winning in P1, but he's in fact only five points out of P2. 00:16:54.559 --> 00:17:00.080 When you consider, I mean, his car has had what at least one reliability we didn't finish. 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:01.679 Yeah, mechanical failure. 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:04.160 We've gotten zero points this race. 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:10.559 The fact that he's only five behind Lewis, I think, shows just how dominant the Mercedes car is. 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:12.720 Then you have Charles, 126. 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:16.400 He's a bit further back, but as we said, he's had a couple good weeks in a row. 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:18.160 Landle at 103. 00:17:18.240 --> 00:17:19.839 His team got on script 92. 00:17:19.920 --> 00:17:20.960 Max right behind him, though. 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:22.240 91, not bad. 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:26.799 Nonetheless, George even, I don't know, we've done 10 races. 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:29.519 So the schedule has 12 remaining. 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:33.839 I am convinced those final two in the Middle East will not happen. 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:36.319 That means 10 races remaining. 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:37.279 I don't know. 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:40.079 Time is running out, don't you

think, for George Russell? 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:42.240 I think it is. 00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:43.200 Yeah. 00:17:43.440 --> 00:17:48.000 The clock has not struck midnight yet, but it's getting there. 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:54.400 He's gotta have a turnaround like Lando had last year, I think. 00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:55.920 You know, at this point. 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:05.279 It is hard to see Kimmy coming in anything other than at worst second. 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:10.799 If he finishes a race, you know, 10 races, so we say. 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:18.480 50 points, you know, that's seven a race or whatever if George is P1, so he makes it up. 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:27.119 But that's that's tough when you're racing your teammate and it hasn't looked like you could handle them the entire season so far. 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:30.640 It's gonna be a hard turnaround for George to make up, I think. 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:32.000 No, it's a good point. 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:41.119 Team standings, Mercedes dominant 358, Ferrari 285, McLaren 195, Red Bull 151 in the steep drop off. 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:45.440 Alpine and Racing Bulls tied at 61. 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:46.000 Nice. 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:49.839 That Ford power unit, first year, Red Bull Ford. 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:51.200 Red Bull looks good. 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:52.880 Racing Bulls looks good. 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:54.480 I think that's impressive. 00:18:54.720 --> 00:19:03.920 I also think Mercedes appears to be the best, but this is not the dominant Mercedes of the 2010s, where you never saw them. 00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:06.640 They took off from the front row, and that was it. 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:08.319 This race was over. 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:17.440 I mean, we now have, as we've talked about for years now, Formula One is trying to adopt the NFL playbook of sort of creating parody. 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:18.720 There's four. 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:24.079 And if there's a safety car, potentially six teams that could win a race. 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:28.720 I'm not saying finish, you know, win win the constructors. 00:19:29.039 --> 00:19:33.519 That's almost certainly Mercedes, potentially Ferrari. 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:45.519 But you've got any race, Mercedes, Ferrari, McLaren, and maybe Red Bull could win a race, especially with Max. 00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:50.240 But then, you know, Alpina Racing Bowls, you have some rain, you have a safety car. 00:19:50.880 --> 00:19:54.640 That's six teams when before it was basically one team. 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:59.599 And maybe uh uh some crazy incident, Ferrari would slip in there. 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:01.359 Yeah, I mean, it's true. 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:07.759 I think it's been a lot more interesting to see these results and the overall parody, right? 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:16.960 Where yes, Mercedes is the best car on the grid, even with the reliability issues. 00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:25.440 But when they win races, like you

said, it's not by the 25 seconds, the 45 seconds. 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:30.079 Only four drivers didn't get lapped in this race, kind of thing, right? 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:35.039 I think Kimmy beat Charles by what two seconds this week. 00:20:35.200 --> 00:20:40.880 I mean, they're not far off, the rest of these teams over, you know, 44 laps. 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:45.359 That's like a three and a half mile track or something like that, right? 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:48.720 So that's a long, that's a long distance. 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:52.240 You came up two seconds behind them. 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:54.559 I mean, that's you're pretty close. 00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:55.440 Yeah. 00:20:55.839 --> 00:20:57.440 American team standings. 00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:09.039 I'm claiming these is American teams, Red Bull and P4, Racing Bulls, P5, tied for P5, Haas, P7, Cadillac, P11. 00:21:09.119 --> 00:21:11.839 But it's their first year in the bullshit, by the way. 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:16.559 Should be P10, Aston should be P11, but oh no. 00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:24.720 Chucko, you get a penalty four weeks after it happened, and Alonzo gets promoted, whatever. 00:21:24.880 --> 00:21:26.000 It's dumb. 00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:49.200 Can you hear the drums, ADU O? 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:53.599 I mean, ADUO is so great in theory. 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:59.759 The whole point is just part of this drive by Formula One, liberty, media, the ownership. 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:06.880 To sort of create parity to make races where multiple teams can win, multiple drivers can win. 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:08.079 I love it. 00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:18.799 And as you said, I mean, look, Mercedes, Kimmy, but just I mean, two seconds is a lot, but you know, 2016, Lewis was probably beating Ferrari by 20 seconds or something. 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:25.039 Crazy, you know, a second, it seemed like a second a lap on some of those races, you know. 00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:26.799 That was crazy. 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:31.279 So I love this drive to sort of enforce parody onto the sport. 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:40.640 I love the concept of ADUO, but man, you know, they they kind of messed it up in execution because, you know, I mean, we saw this race. 00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:45.279 Max was going all out, and Kimmy just boom, you know, it's like, sorry. 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:55.519 But yet, according to F1 and ADUO, oh, Mercedes gets extra money to spend to upgrade their to upgrade their power unit because Red Bulls is faster. 00:22:55.680 --> 00:22:59.599 And next year they get this too, because it's sort of the way the rules are baked in. 00:22:59.920 --> 00:23:04.960 Mercedes will have a bit more money to spend for our bit more money because, oh, Red Bull's faster. 00:23:05.039 --> 00:23:06.640 I mean, this is bullshit. 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:08.160 They messed it up. 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:11.920 And I'm not sure how you fix this, you know, but I don't know. 00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:13.279 Christian Horner would know. 00:23:13.359 --> 00:23:17.119 They got rid of Christian Horner, and he would never have allowed this to happen. 00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:22.000 Where Mercedes is clearly a faster car, but it's like, oh no, no. 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:27.119 Mercedes gets more money to spend than you, Red Bull, because we've determined your power unit is faster. 00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:33.839 Yeah, and I mean it's not even like the power unit, and it's not even faster, right? 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:46.319 It's just the engine's peak operating conditions are a little bit higher in the Ford than the Mercedes, right? 00:23:46.640 --> 00:23:54.960 And so it's just like, yeah, it's just a weird, it's just a weird thing that's like you didn't really think about it, right? 00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:59.279 And think about how it would actually impact anything. 00:23:59.440 --> 00:24:09.039 It's like doing everything in a lab and you've never been in the real world before, and then turns out that thing you made in the lab isn't usable at all in the real world. 00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:11.359 This is kind of the same thing. 00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:12.799 And I I don't know. 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:26.480 It's I get it, it's frustrating because you don't want Mercedes to just, oh, they get more resources for development, and they're already ahead, so now they're gonna get more ahead. 00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:28.720 That would be going backwards, right? 00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:30.400 So which is gonna happen. 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:32.640 And I shouldn't say power unit, but that's just shorthand. 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:33.200 You're right. 00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:36.400 It's in the their test of the engine. 00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:46.559 Oh, look, under these conditions, oh look, Red Bulls is faster, but this has nothing to do with aerodynamics with chassis, power unit overall, reliability, none of that. 00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:48.400 And all of those matter. 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:50.640 Yeah, I mean, all of it matters. 00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:57.119 I think, you know, if you're gonna do these things by component, I think they should do it for every component. 00:24:57.359 --> 00:25:25.359 Do some kind of objective testing and settle on all these different metrics for each component and say, okay, well, here's here's the best team at this component, and here's how much extra you get to develop for, you know, each of these things, whether it's your chassis, your battery, your suspension, you know, arrow components, all this stuff. 00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:36.799 At least, you know, allow some teams to have a little bit extra for development of of other things, you know, that can help as well. 00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:37.839 I don't know. 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:05.039 The Yost Verstappen problem. 00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:15.359 Now we've done been told you, we've been told you that Yost is a problem, and he's no longer just a problem for Christian Horner or

for Red Bull. 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:18.880 He's a problem for Max Verstappen because where is Max gonna go? 00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:19.519 Right? 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:34.240 We told you all these rumors, oh Max is gonna go to McLaren, Max is gonna go to Mercedes, Max can't go anywhere because Max is going to demand at least a decent car, a better than average car. 00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:35.279 Who has that? 00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:39.920 Mercedes, McLaren, Ferrari, Red Bull. 00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:42.240 Okay, so is he gonna go to Mercedes? 00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:43.039 Will he go to McLaren? 00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:44.079 Will he go to Ferrari? 00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:45.680 No, because of Yost. 00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:54.880 I mean, Yo's it look, I Yo's is trying to protect his son, his investment, but they got rid of Helmet, they got rid of Horner, Newy's gone. 00:26:55.279 --> 00:27:04.160 If you notice, these aren't just great F1 mines, they are sort of power centers in Red Bull. 00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:08.319 The owner is dead, Horner's gone, helmet's gone, new is gone. 00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:12.240 Basically, that's Max's paddock now, which means Joseph's paddock. 00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:16.640 He's not going anywhere because he will not be able to have that anywhere else. 00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:19.839 I agree. 00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:28.720 I mean, Max could just sort of decide what he wants to do on his own, but I don't think that's really how he operates. 00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:33.839 So unless Kelly says, get the fuck out of Red Bull, you know. 00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:37.359 I'm pretty sure he's staying there. 00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:42.480 And it's certainly something I think that Yost would would push for. 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:45.920 He he likes being there and being the the big guy. 00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:52.000 I think Mechis just probably leaves him alone and just goes, uh please don't talk to me. 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:54.319 I just don't want to have anything to do with you. 00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:57.200 Um so I don't know. 00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.640 It's it's kind of a weird, it's a weird team now. 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:08.079 And I think it's more of a of a normal team now, except for Yost hanging around. 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:14.000 And so until Max leaves, I think, like leaves F1. 00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:18.799 I think he's he's staying in at Red Bull and Yos is staying there too. 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:20.799 I don't expect him to go anywhere else. 00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:22.160 We've had this conversation. 00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:28.720 It just there's nowhere he's gonna go where they're gonna find everything that they want. 00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:30.480 It's it's a package deal. 00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:32.720 You you got Max, you got Yos. 00:28:33.039 --> 00:28:35.440 And Max is gonna demand a car. 00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:37.200 That's at a certain level. 00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:38.799 Maybe, maybe Aston. 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:43.920 In a couple years, Honda, let's say Honda stays in, new he does it right, boom, maybe. 00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:51.359 But right now, there's only three other teams he could go, and those three will not take the package deal. 00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:54.240 They'll take the Max deal, but not the package deal with Yos. 00:28:54.720 --> 00:29:02.160 Speaking of packages, you touched earlier on um how we want to see what's happening in the race. 00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:07.519 And always what's happening isn't always at the very, very, very, very front of the race. 00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:17.440 I mean, I want to visit your grandfather, and he has cable TV and he's watching Matt Media League Baseball, and on his one screen, there are four games. 00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:19.440 You can see all four games. 00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:21.279 It's like a little quad box. 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:25.279 Okay, he didn't do anything, he wouldn't know how to do it. 00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:26.480 That's what they're showing. 00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:28.960 Four, and I'm like, why can't I get this in F1? 00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:37.920 And I don't want your bullshit the uh listener to oh just use the you know, click through and and get you know onboard from Alonzo or something. 00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:42.720 I mean, no, I can't can't I see four different angles at the same time on the same screen? 00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:44.240 I got big ass television. 00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:48.319 I mean, just just I'm curious what's happening elsewhere. 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.799 It's I I just somebody's coverage, and I know that's that's that's easy. 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:59.119 It's easy to go after the coverage, it's easy to go after skysports, it's easy to go after AirPodn TV, but it's legitimate. 00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:05.920 Yeah, I think live sports producers that are not American are fucking garbage. 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:21.279 We saw that in the World Cup, you know, uh say what you want, but there's only one feed that all of the broadcasters get a world feed, and those producers are trash. 00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:35.200 You miss so much of the action because they're cutting to whoever on the sideline or in stands or whatever, going back to a replay that you've already seen 15 times, and you miss a lot. 00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:44.319 And like I get that there are other interesting things maybe outside of the actual action that you could look at. 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:56.000 But look, I'm watching this because I want to see what's happening on the track, everywhere on the track, as much as possible, and so yeah, I'd like to see this. 00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:19.039 I think is why Apple TV needs to really start getting their own stuff together, because it turns out F1 TV kind of is terrible at producing this stuff, and so you know, I don't want to be the big, like dumb American saying, uh, it's all non-Americans, but like most American sporting coverage is pretty good.

00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:22.640 You see everything, they talk about everything. 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:36.319 I know it's a little bit more difficult to like track, you know, a five-mile circuit and 22 cars somewhere on that circuit than it is one baseball field. 00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:37.119 I get that. 00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:42.000 But like, I don't know, it just seems like we could be doing better. 00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:48.799 It it does seem like we it minimum quad box and you know a lot more user controls. 00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:59.039 But I mean, yeah, Apple's a trillion dollar plus company with technology with screens everywhere, sensors everywhere, cameras everywhere. 00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:03.519 Yeah, maybe maybe they'll they'll come up with something because I've been a little disappointed. 00:32:03.759 --> 00:32:11.200 New topic AI and F1, something that we've been talking about, especially over the last couple months. 00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:17.839 And I almost think we need to start documenting these AI encroachments on Formula One and on sports in general. 00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:29.759 But I think you brought this up a few weeks ago where AI, it just sort of continues to encroach on the sport and it gets to these points where you're like, well, okay, I guess that's acceptable, that's acceptable, that's acceptable. 00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:41.200 And then suddenly you realize, well, you've removed a lot of human element, and so they're going to have to start putting some sort of enforced human element back into the sport, whether it belongs or not. 00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:51.599 And it's funny because about a week or so ago I heard rumors about, oh, they're thinking, maybe we should add fuel stops, which is completely unnecessary. 00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:56.480 It's only to sort of add more human chaos to the action. 00:32:56.799 --> 00:32:58.880 Yeah, that's it's ridiculous, right? 00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:17.839 I mean, the only reason that that would make any sense, right, is if you're getting so much faster with less fuel on board that you would take the time to refuel during rate, like what does that trade-off look like in terms of time, right? 00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:30.079 And then we need to make sure that that we don't just kind of allow everything to be run by AI and automation and robotics. 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:37.039 You know, there needs to be something, something else that's you know, keeps the sport integrity, right? 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:38.880 And fuel stops is weird. 00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:46.319 They do it in in NASCAR still, and those are kind of fun, but they they got rid of it in F1 because there were too many fires. 00:33:46.480 --> 00:33:53.839 So they were like, yeah, we're gonna stop doing that because things explode and put fuel and stuff really fast. 00:33:54.319 --> 00:34:21.679 So across the line? 00:34:21.840 --> 00:34:24.800 That is our segment where we predict the top five for the next race. 00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:27.840 The next race is next week in Hungary. 00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:31.440 In across the line, we predict the top five. 00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:34.159 If our driver does show up in the top five, we get a point. 00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:39.039 If he shows up in the exact spot we selected him, we get three points. 00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:42.079 Patch, what are the current standings for across the line? 00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:47.760 Okay, well, you have a pretty commanding lead, at least coming into this week. 00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:50.239 39 points to my 22. 00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:59.280 But top five from this race in Belgium was Antonelli Leclerc Verstappen Hamilton Piastri. 00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:05.840 Your picks were Russell, LeClaire, Hajar, Norris, Kolopinto, P2. 00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.239 So you got three points for LeClaire and Pete. 00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:15.280 My picks were Antonelli, Hamilton, Verstappen, Piastri, Lawson. 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:16.079 Wow. 00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:24.800 So I got three points each for Antonelli and Verstappen in first and third, respectively, and one point each for Hamilton and P. 00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:28.639 Astri, both in the top five, not where I selected them. 00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:35.519 So that brings you to 42 points to my 30. 00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:38.400 So a pretty good chunk in there for me. 00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:40.480 Eight is close to a record, I think. 00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:42.719 Yeah, no, that's pretty good. 00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:50.239 So last year, Hungary, McLaren's 200th win, just to just behind, but well behind Ferrari. 00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:51.199 Lando won. 00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:55.360 He was that's when he was starting to sort of take command finally. 00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:57.440 It took him half a season. 00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:00.559 But it was Lando, Oscar, then George. 00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:01.840 And Alonzo had a good race. 00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:05.360 Alonso always seems to do well at Hunkero Ring. 00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:06.719 Because this week was biz bore. 00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:07.920 I think everybody left him. 00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:09.920 I think Botas may have left him. 00:36:10.960 --> 00:36:30.320 Honestly, so Aston being ahead of Cadillac in the constructor standings really just grinds my gears because Cadillac has clearly been the better team, but it was just that weirdness of Monaco that, like, oh yeah, Aston happened into a point. 00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:31.920 So I don't know. 00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:32.719 Oh well. 00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:34.239 At least it was Alonzo. 00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:36.239 Yeah, yeah, that's true. 00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:37.280 Let's see. 00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:38.639 Pre- Oh, look at this. 00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:39.760 I thought this was funny. 00:36:39.840 --> 00:36:41.760 It looked in Hungary 2021. 00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:45.840 I said, look at this, Mick Schumacher, he belongs in F1. 00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:48.960

That that turned out less true. 00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:56.000 I also predicted that Toto was gonna, despite what everybody was saying, Toto was gonna keep Botas and George would be stuck at Williams. 00:36:56.159 --> 00:36:58.159 That did not turn out to be true. 00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.519 All right, Padger, for Hungary 2026. 00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:02.480 Who goes first? 00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:04.159 You have first pick. 00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:05.039 Nice. 00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:09.199 Well, I'm going with the revenge of George. 00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:11.199 Again, I'm picking George Russell. 00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:12.000 Dang. 00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:13.199 George. 00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:14.719 We'll see. 00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:15.519 I don't know. 00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:17.119 I guess I'll take Kimmy then. 00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:18.960 I gotta make up points somehow. 00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:21.679 I expect him to bring it again. 00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:24.480 We'll see if he can finish the race. 00:37:25.199 --> 00:37:29.039 Then I think I think I'm gonna take Max. 00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:33.599 I think he's he's looked pretty pretty solid. 00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:42.079 So I think, you know, especially in qualifying, Hungary is really one of those qualifying tracks. 00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:43.599 So I feel like he'll do it. 00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:44.559 P2. 00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:45.360 Nice. 00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:52.800 Alright, well, I'm gonna take Max's teammate, Hedjar, and Flash year's winner, Lando Norris. 00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:53.760 Nice. 00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:57.840 Then I'm gonna go with the two Ferraris. 00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:01.599 I'll take Charles, followed closely by Lewis. 00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:02.480 Alright, then. 00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:03.679 So I'm gonna take. 00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:05.199 No one's taking Oscar yet, right? 00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.079 I'm gonna take Oscar, and I'm going with another Red Bull. 00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:09.840 I'm gonna go with Liam Lawson. 00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:15.760 Oh, we'll see if he finally gets those upgrades that they gave to Arvin. 00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:16.639 Yeah. 00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:19.679 Because he looked, I mean, yeah. 00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:23.920 Lawson just couldn't hang with Lynnblad because of those upgrades, I think. 00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:25.360 But we'll see. 00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:26.400 Should be fun. 00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:33.679 Then I'm gonna take their rival currently in the constructors, and I'm gonna go with Gasly. 00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:34.239 Nice. 00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:39.440 So for Hungry 2026, you have Kimmy, Max, Charles Lewis, and Pierre Gasly. 00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:45.360 I have George Russell, Isaac Hadjart, Lando Norris, Oscar Castrian, Leon Lawson. 00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.199 Any crazy predictions, Patrick? 00:38:55.440 --> 00:39:06.400 Well, I have a crazy prediction because I'm gonna say uh Aston is bringing, supposedly bringing a bunch of big upgrades soon, maybe by Hungary. 00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:08.000 We're not really sure. 00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:19.199 But I expect them to at least have some pretty drastic upgrades by the end of the summer break, at which point Alonso will get a nice feel for the car. 00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:24.159 And in Madrid later this year, he's just gonna go insane. 00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:27.440 He's gonna just take it to everybody. 00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:35.039 He's gonna pass Lewis round the outside, final lap for a spot on the podium. 00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:47.679 And the Spaniards are going to finally name a turn after Alonso, like it seems every other motherfucker on the grid has something named after him already. 00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:54.000 And Fernando does not, so he's finally gonna get his name on an F1 track. 00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:56.079 He'll be part of the lore now. 00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:57.360 Nice, nice. 00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:02.719 My crazy prediction is similar to your Alonso on the podium atmosphere. 00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:11.760 And mine is a winner in a non-top four team in a non-Ray race. 00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:17.280 So not Mercedes, not McLaren, not Red Bull, not Ferrari. 00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:22.559 And obviously would not be Williams either because they're just too, they're just such garbage. 00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:23.760 I don't even know what Williams. 00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:26.000 They have the same, they've getting Mercedes Power. 00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:28.639 Every Mercedes Power unit is just great. 00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:30.559 And I don't know what they're doing at Williams. 00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:37.599 So a winner at a race, at a non-wet race in of a top, of a non-top four team. 00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:38.880 I've made it more and more confusing. 00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:40.960 I was spot on at the beginning. 00:40:41.199 --> 00:40:46.559 So we're gonna have a winner in a non wet race from a non top four team. 00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:47.599 All right. 00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:52.000 I want to thank you all for listening to everybody's most beloved father and son F1 podcast. 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:53.280 It is much appreciated. 00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:55.199 And we are lights out. 00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:56.000 See ya. 00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:57.440 Thanks for listening.