Funny Book Forensics 456 Framing Batman의 전체 녹취록

That she's not endorsing Trump. 65 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:33.000 Oh, okay. 66 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:37.000 I mean, actors aren't supposed to say anything about politics. 67 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:42.000 Oh. But when the ones that support what they want say stuff, it's okay. Got it. 68 00:04:42.000 --> 00:05:11.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can just ban the press corps and don't let them film you anymore or whatever. I don't know what's happening. Actually, I do know what's happening. And I was amazed that Fox News actually canceled his coverage too. Yeah, for those people that don't know he said that. Ms. Now cnn. And who was the third people he wouldn't let in? 69 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:13.000 Was it C Span? I don't know. 70 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:28.000 No. Anyway, C Span, that would be funny. And anyway, cnn, Fox, NBC, abc, and CBS all share the responsibility of recording the President. Probably be better if I turn that around. 71 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:30.000 Oh, yeah. 72 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:59.000 Recorded the President. Recorded the President. You know, when he's doing functions and events, and they share the cost of that because it's, you know, free. And even Fox News agreed to stop. So that whole pool, when they kicked CNN out, stopped doing that. So now the President has his own. He's going to have his own people going around recording him? No, it's literally everything he wanted in life. I heard that he's going to call his new channel Pravda. 73 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:01.000 I see. 74 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:11.000 Yeah. So, yes, like the Russian news service or the Soviet news service. Yeah. It means truth. 75 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:13.000 I see. 76 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:22.000 Yeah. So if we're going to have a new news service, it can be great. It's going to be one more thing for big Batman to go take out. 77 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:25.000 Right? Big beefy Batman. 78 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:32.000 Yeah. So we're going to need some big beefy Batman to defeat some billionaires. Got this other poster frame because there's one more poster. 79 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:34.000 Oh, my God. One more poster. 80 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:35.000 Is that crinkly enough? 81 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:39.000 Yeah, it's crinkly enough. I. I should tell you. 82 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:40.000 Isn't this soothing, though? 83 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:41.000 It is not soothing, Dan. 84 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:58.000 No, but just. But millions of. I just wanted to get more listeners, and millions of people watch those folks putting their makeup on and doing all. And sitting in their car and doing all those things when they do their podcast. And we. We have, like zero listeners. 85 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:01.000 We have. So I thought we have like four. 86 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:10.000 I thought if we replicate, like, what other people do, then we get 16. So what's better than putting in poster frames? Anyway, you were saying before I interrupted. 87 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:18.000 I was going to say. I should go. I should tell you, during the unnecessary debates at Real City Comic Con, we 88 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:23.000 did have a. Oh, that I wasn't invited to debate in. Yes, I remember then. 89 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:27.000 Oh, geez. Squadron man showed up. It was fantastic. It was. 90 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:33.000 Yeah. See, I knew it. Anyway, you were saying about the unnecessary debates where all the debaters were much better than me. 91 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:35.000 That's the thing. 92 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:36.000 That's. 93 00:07:35.000 --> 00:07:44.000 It's not supposed to be about who can debate well. It's. It's who can. Who can please the crowd. And. And it's generally. 94 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:47.000 Are you saying I'm not pleasing. 95 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:54.000 I'm going to say even. Even if you are, even if you have compelling arguments and you make sense, people don't care. 96 00:07:54.000 --> 00:07:55.000 Really. 97 00:07:55.000 --> 00:08:00.000 They really don't. But the point is, is that there was really. 98 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:01.000 They don't care. 99 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:30.000 They don't care. They really. Okay, no. We had. We had a lot of really good, Good, Good topics and good things to debate about, and we. We did not win on the grounds of good debate. We. We. The ones that we won Were basically when. When I. Oh, hey, Day of the Dead poster that you must have got at the Blue Mouse Theater. 100 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:40.000 I did get it at the Blue Mouse Theater drawn by Mark Brill, who was found by the art director of Friday Night Frights when Travis Bundy, who was on the show last week. 101 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:41.000 Very cool. 102 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:44.000 Or I should say, isn't he creative director? Let me make sure I get that. 103 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:52.000 I believe he might be, but we did debate Absolute Batman. 104 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:59.000 Yeah, wouldn't. Would you won and you said Beefy Batman is the best Batman. 105 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:00.000 I can't. Did I, did we win that round? 106 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:01.000 You did not. 107 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:03.000 I did win. No, I did. 108 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:07.000 I actually, I think I defend Beefy Batman. All you had to do is say his sales figures. 109 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:25.000 I, it was, it was, it was about who would you, who would, who would get who. Who would you rather date off of hinge? Absolute Batman or the ghoul from fallout? 110 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:45.000 Absolute Batman. I mean, is there a question there? Absolute Batman has a chest. Abs. He has biceps and triceps. He has quads. He has hamstrings, he has calves. And the ghoul has. 111 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:46.000 The ghoul has. 112 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:51.000 Oh, and, and, and Beefy Batman has his glutes. 113 00:09:51.000 --> 00:10:06.000 I, I did say. I, I said he, he is the Batman of the people. He's the Batman who will

burn a city down for you in order to protect you. He will, he will go to no ends to, to make sure. Oh, that is beautiful. Looks great. 114 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:19.000 Admittedly, I, I do understand that sometimes some negative things could happen due to over steroid use, so that could be a reason not to date Beefy Batman. 115 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:26.000 Yeah, but the, the ghoul, the ghoul will, will most likely end up killing you with the radiation that he will give you. 116 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:27.000 Yeah. That's fair. 117 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:39.000 So, and, and, and, and I mean not to. I like, he has a, he has a whole family. 118 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:42.000 Do you think I should go put some more posters in? 119 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:44.000 Oh, geez. 120 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:47.000 No, I think there's a couple more I could go get. 121 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:50.000 No, I think we should talk about absolute Batman. 122 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:53.000 Okay, so Absolute Batman is a winner. This last. 123 00:10:53.000 --> 00:11:02.000 I, I, I want to say that, that it was, we had people in the crowd really excited that I, I had a knowledge of absolute wow. 124 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:15.000 See, that's what I know is when we review new things. Do you know, like next month, um, Jason is going to come back to the podcast and we're going to review some new Jonah Hex. 125 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:16.000 All right. 126 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:39.000 Isn't even out yet, so I don't even know if it's good. But hey, if it's not good. I'm sure we'll let you know. And if it's good, I'm sure we'll let you know. But Jason is a longtime Jonah Hex fan, so we probably will be doing some Legion too, during that podcast. So not reviewing the whole book, but Greg, against his will, has committed to reading the first issue. 127 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:43.000 Yeah, I know. I gotta go pick everything up. 128 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:50.000 Yep. Gotta sign up for that Jonah Hex and go get the Legion first issue. You know, it's sold out. You may not be able to get it. 129 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:52.000 Curses. 130 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:55.000 Maybe get on to issue two before you get too far behind. 131 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:57.000 I know this is, it's terrible. 132 00:11:57.000 --> 00:12:08.000 I mean, I can't believe you. It's. Yeah. Anyway, I sound very muted. I feel like relaxed. I was very relaxed. Putting posters in, it's like extremely relaxing. 133 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:20.000 Putting posters into frames is so relaxing. It's almost meditative. It's, it's one of those things that you can do. It's yoga for your hands, Dan. 134 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:22.000 I've been doing a lot of yoga. 135 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:30.000 It's, it's, it's a thing that people do to unwind the mind. 136 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:32.000 Like putting on makeup in the car. 137 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:43.000 They can if they want to, but I don't suggest it. It's very dangerous, as I know from my clowning days. 138 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:53.000 You should do videos of. We should do a funny book Forensics for. You're in your car putting on clown makeup and I'm putting posters in poster frames at the same time. 139 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:54.000 Nobody. 140 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:56.000 That is how we're going to get millions of listeners. 141 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:57.000 Nobody. 142 00:12:57.000 --> 00:13:10.000 I can't believe you've tapped into that. You know, I ask, I asked somebody how to improve our listenership. And I was given some suggestions and, but then I didn't listen to any of those suggestions. I just thought of this new idea. 143 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:12.000 He thought of a new idea, I'm sure. 144 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:16.000 Well, it's based on what people do. And I, I think that that makes sense. 145 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:29.000 I'm sure listeners will let us know if, if putting posters in frames is what, what snared them like the, like, like Grimbor, the Chainsman. And I'll tell you, I'll tell you what. 146 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:36.000 The first listener that comes back and tells us that they loved putting posters in frames. 147 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:37.000 Yeah. 148 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:40.000 I will give you a ticket to Grit City Comic Con. 149 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:43.000 Oh, my goodness. 150 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:44.000 Yep. 151 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:45.000 That is, that is very nice of you, Dan. 152 00:13:45.000 --> 00:14:19.000 Yep, that's. I, I, I have a ticket to give you and you just have to come back to me. You can message me through Instagram, Facebook X will be hard. Cause I deleted off my phone Even though you still put the podcast there. I. I don't really like it. Uh, so I was getting rid of it, but it's. I. I'll still put the podcast links there. Blue sky, maybe. Yeah. Uh, I found out I have an account on Blue Sky. Actually, I didn't even know. I just use it. I just thought we had a funny book forensics account on Blue Sky. 153 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:21.000 Oh, but you actually had your own. 154 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:22.000 Yeah, I made my own. 155 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:26.000 He's got his own personal account there, people. You could reach Dan at Blue Sky. 156 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:45.000 You can find me on Blue Sky. Yeah, you could have a ticket to Grit City comic con on November 7th, and that would be all of yours. All you have to do, it's in Tacoma, Washington. All you have to do is message me and tell me how much you appreciated putting posters. The segment on putting posters and frames, 157 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:57.000 they're gonna be like, what we really want is you putting posters in frames, Greg. Putting on clown makeup. And I'll be like, I don't have clown makeup to put on anymore. 158 00:14:57.000 --> 00:15:06.000 Oh, that's unfortunate. We'll have to. We'll have to get enough listeners. So, listeners, if you want Greg to put on clown makeup, you can sign up for our

Patreon. 159 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:13.000 You know, that's a joke. It's a joke. But I mean, honestly, I. 160 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:21.000 And yeah, honestly, I don't have time to build the content for Patreon right now. Maybe in the future. No, I really couldn't. 161 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:30.000 But you could. I'd just be putting posters into frames, Dan. You'd just be putting posters in frames or sleeving comic books. 162 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:40.000 I know these are things nobody cares about, but I. The weeds in my front yard were so bad, and we had. We hired Sandy. We hired somebody to clean to. 163 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:41.000 Was it Keanu? 164 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:43.000 We hired somebody to get rid of them. 165 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:45.000 Was it Keani? 166 00:15:45.000 --> 00:16:08.000 Yes. I guess we're calling Kia. He out on the podcast and. And he said that the weed eater I had wasn't the right tool for the job and that I must get him a different tool. So after three months of waiting, I went out there at 3 o', clock, I walked the dogs and I came home and I'm like, I'm cutting down all this fucking shit. 167 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:10.000 Was it three o' clock in the morning? 168 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:27.000 No, it was tonight. Like, yeah, podcast. I had to shower up and everything. So I went out there and I edged the little things and chopped down weeds and I took my big chopper and cut the BlackBerry bushes growing from the hoard in my neighbor's yard over into my yard. 169 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:28.000 Oh, wow. 170 00:16:28.000 --> 00:17:09.000 You know exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah. Because she took away the trash bins or the big trash can, so now it's just. All the stuff is just sitting there in the yard. Ah. And I don't really care because I don't have an hoa, so we can do whatever the hell we want. Fortunately, because I would have been fined multiple times this summer if I had an hoa. And since most front yard is nice dead. Well, I don't necessarily want to look nice. I was just tired of it. I mean, what I want to do is take the front yard and get rid of the grass and put rocks there, because the grass already died. Because when we bought the house, it was all moss, and the moss died, and then the sprinkler system doesn't work, and none of that. I. I don't want to pay for all that. I'd rather just, like, have rocks there. 171 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:10.000 Yeah. 172 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:22.000 And then try to figure out how to grow grass in our backyard. But the. Anyway, moral of this, Moral of the story of this rant is I feel all high. I was zenning out, putting posters and frames because. 173 00:17:22.000 --> 00:17:25.000 Oh, no, now I got you all jacked up. 174 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:27.000 I was all aggro out there. 175 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:28.000 Oh, no. 176 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:38.000 Attacking the weeds and stuff. And I. Well, I was also trying to get in the mindset for Spawn Cape Batman. 177 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:41.000 Yes. 178 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:45.000 Because as we learned last time, the cape can do a lot of things. 179 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:48.000 It can. It's a magic cape. 180 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:59.000 And it's totally. I mean, who do you think gets credit for that? Capullo or. Or. Or McFarlane? 181 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:15.000 I mean, you don't get one without the other. But at the same point, I think, like, it's a. It's definitely, like, a take on what bats do. So, I mean, it's. Yeah, it's fair to say it's pulo. 182 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:18.000 Craig Capullo is ripped, by the way. 183 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:19.000 Oh, yeah. 184 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:23.000 That man is gym down shredded human. 185 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:24.000 Wow. 186 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:26.000 Yeah, he is. 187 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:27.000 It's. 188 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:41.000 It. He. Yeah, it's. It's impressive to. For the amount of art that he does, to be able to stay in that good shape is very impressive. 189 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:47.000 That's. That is. It's a testament. Dan's gonna flash up an image for me. 190 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:54.000 Yeah, I, I am. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. It's probably. Probably won't make the main podcast, but here we go. Right there. 191 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:57.000 Oh, wow. Yeah. 192 00:18:57.000 --> 00:18:58.000 Yeah. 193 00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:02.000 What was he doing? Is. Yeah, look at that. 194 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:03.000 I mean, how do. 195 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:05.000 How do you draw with arms like that? 196 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:15.000 I don't know. You know, like, I, I, I don't know, but when you are, you know, that's, that's, that's, that's pretty impressive. 197 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:23.000 It's like, what? He draws a page, does a set. Draws a page, does the set. Yeah, he draws a panel, does a set, does a set. 198 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:51.000 That, that makes sense. And then wears his comics and coffee shirt. I should probably say, like coffee or comics and pre workout. That would be the, that would be hilarious. But yeah, I mean, I think what I actually think is happening is that Greg Capullo is actually absolute Batman. 199 00:19:51.000 --> 00:20:00.000 Holy crap. You think he just took images? Like he just took pictures of himself and then drew himself into the, into the book. 200 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:02.000 Yeah. 201 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:03.000 Fair enough. 202 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:08.000 He's not drawing this book, but maybe Nick Dagrotta saw Capullo and is like, 203 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:14.000 he's like that guy just like, put, put me in. 204 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:21.000 Yeah. And I, I mean, I think it makes sense. Right? I mean, that's, that's what you would do. 205 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:23.000 Yeah. 206 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:36.000 So I don't know. I mean, there's, that's. Well, maybe we'll do may, maybe we'll do some more features on some ripped artists because, you know, I,

I, I admire that. 207 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:38.000 Well, more ripped artists, please. 208 00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:43.000 I guess we should go to absolute Batman number three. I think I was doing this. Yeah, absolutely. 209 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:47.000 Batman. This is. I. 210 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:53.000 First off, before we get too far into this thing, I really like issue three. 211 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:55.000 Yeah. 212 00:20:55.000 --> 00:21:03.000 Because starts to wrap up three different things. Well, kind of four, actually. 213 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:04.000 Okay. 214 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:12.000 But one's really brief. Right. It gives us more insight into Selena coming from issue two. 215 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:13.000 Yeah. 216 00:21:13.000 --> 00:21:21.000 It gives us more insight on, like his giant Batmobile that's driving through the city and the relationship with Alfred. Right. 217 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:22.000 Yeah. 218 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:44.000 We get a little bit more on his historical bat or. Sorry, not the historical backstory is there. But that was actually not one of the four points I thought. It gets into. It gets more into how he utilizes his friends. And we find out more about Mr. Nygma and we find out more about the leader of the bad guys. 219 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:48.000 Oh, yeah. Everything's coming together in issue. 220 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:54.000 Yeah. Well, and it does make sense. Right? I think, I think this ended up being a six issue arc, didn't it? Not a five issue. 221 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:55.000 I think so. 222 00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:59.000 But three is where you really should have that start happening. 223 00:21:59.000 --> 00:22:00.000 Right. 224 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:08.000 So you should be rapidly advancing the plot, rapidly advancing the storyline. And I thought that Snyder did a really good job doing that. Right. 225 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:09.000 Yeah. 226 00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:35.000 And I was, I was impressed. Right. It's sometimes in Snyder's stories, I have said in the past that I feel like when you get in the middle of the story to advance the story stuff's just happening out of nowhere and I can't follow. And I, I felt that in, like, death metal. I felt like that in a few of the other. And of course, that's harder because that's a cross company thing, right? 227 00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:36.000 Yeah. 228 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:44.000 So, you know, I mean, if you read Crisis 1 through 12, it can become a mishmash of mess at times in the middle. 229 00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:45.000 Right. 230 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:51.000 I think if you read Secret wars and we'll go back to the 80s, it's the same, Right? 231 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:52.000 Yeah. 232 00:22:52.000 --> 00:23:12.000 And, you know, we. We've joked about some of these crossover series in the past and different things, but I felt like with DCKO and then this absolute Batman I'm reading now, which before. I feel like they've done a better job kind of threading the story through and even it does bounce a little bit, right? 233 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:13.000 Yeah. 234 00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:18.000 But it helps me. He's really helping me stay with it. 235 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:20.000 Fair. Fair. 236 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:21.000 I don't feel lost. 237 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:43.000 You're, You're, You're, You're. You're staying with the thread of the story. You're picking up the other ones as, as you're reading, and things are, Things are, Are tightening up and making sense as opposed to being like, well, okay, what happened to that? Where did that go? Why did I get introduced to this? And it's not important anymore. 238 00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:53.000 Right. And, or, and, and with Snyder, sometimes it will just jump. Right. Like, you'll be doing something, and then the next book you open and you're in this completely different scene. 239 00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:54.000 Yeah. 240 00:23:54.000 --> 00:24:04.000 And I'm like, how do we get there? And my brain actually gets tired when I'm reading his stories because I'm trying to, like, figure out what's happening. 241 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:05.000 Yeah. 242 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:14.000 And then in this case, like, you mentioned reading. I think you're ahead of me, but I. I'm through issue seven now. You're through, like eight or nine, I think. 243 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:15.000 Yeah. 244 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:17.000 And it was easy to keep reading these. I. 245 00:24:17.000 --> 00:25:03.000 Flows really well. Want to. Because it just is. It's a good story. I just haven't had time right now to finish off. Like, I, I just want to finish the whole thing because it's. Or not the whole thing, but, like, as much as I can. You know, it's just. It's. It's a fun read. It's. The story is good. The next arc that I'm into is. Is building up, and I'm like, okay, this is where we. We hit the ground running, so to speak, you know, and it, and it really. It doesn't seem to miss a miss a step, lose Any of the pacing, it really just continues forward and makes you just want to get to the next book because it. It's a solid story. 246 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:04.000 Yep. 247 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:21.000 Where sometimes you get to the next arc and it loses a little bit of the steam. Some things loosen up a little bit and you're like, okay, well, they're cheating us a little here and there. But that doesn't seem to be the case in this Dex arc. 248 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:23.000 Yeah. 249 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:36.000 Not to give too much away to the people who haven't read anything or we haven't got there yet because we're only in issue three, but, yeah, it's a good story. 250 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:51.000 Yep. Yep. No, like, I'm. I'm. No, it's. I. I'm sorry. I'm not having the best reaction to you, but, like, I agree, and I think the analysis makes sense, so. Well, let's get into some of the pacing and paneling in this thing. 251 00:25:51.000 --> 00:25:52.000

Okay. 252 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:57.000 And dig in. I guess. I have my copy on the tablet and in my hand. 253 00:25:57.000 --> 00:26:02.000 He's double copying people, double fisting books. 254 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:04.000 I'm all over the place here. 255 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:07.000 The typical Dan. 256 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:21.000 Yeah. Well, that is. Yes. That is typical me. I just wanted to say, though, before we continue, I. I've got another. I've got another famous comic book artist candidate for absolute Batman. 257 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:22.000 Oh, yeah. 258 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:28.000 Yes, one very. Another equally. Equally famous to the one we just showed you. One Phil Jimenez. 259 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:35.000 Oh, yeah, yeah. He's just sitting there. He's. He's on Uncle Google over there looking up. 260 00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:36.000 No, no. 261 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:39.000 Yeah. Well, you just got all these images. 262 00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:42.000 He'd probably not appreciate this because his eyes are squinting, but. 263 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:43.000 Yeah. 264 00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:50.000 Yeah, it just proves you can draw and. And still. Yeah. 265 00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:53.000 Shredded for yourself. 266 00:26:53.000 --> 00:27:09.000 Yeah, I. I mean, I. I wouldn't mind running into Mr. Jimenez in New York sometime. Phil, if you're out there and I'm in New York and you want to have dinner, 267 00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:10.000 talk comics. 268 00:27:10.000 --> 00:28:23.000 Yeah. I mean, it's sad that I've never gotten to a convention where you're at just so I could talk to you and I'd probably just make a fool of myself. But, Phil, this is an official request for a date, actually, if I'm. Or if you just want to invite me to New York, if you were listening to the podcast and happily go out there and. And we could have a nice dinner and, you know, have a. Have a chat. We could talk about comics and weightlifting and you could help me with my hinge profile. It be. Yeah. So. So, Phil. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, Phil, if you're listening and just. And if you're listening and you know, I don't even know if you're in a committed relationship, but I mean, if you are, bring your husband. That's fine. Or partner. That's fine. Just. We can go lift afterwards. I understand there's some really nice bath places with gyms in the front, so he could. We could go. Just want to let everybody know that Phil Jimenez, not only is your art beautiful. Well, anyway, Greg, absolute Batman. 269 00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:28.000 He's just. He's just out there trying to. Trying to fish. 270 00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:31.000 Well, it. I mean, it. It is. It's Phil Jimenez. 271 00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:36.000 If you don't. If you don't cast. If you don't cast once in a while, you never catch. 272 00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:45.000 I mean, who. Who wouldn't want to cast their line toward Phil Jimenez? Like, I mean, if you've never seen 273 00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:48.000 his art, it is fantastic. 274 00:28:48.000 --> 00:29:02.000 Yeah, well, I know you have, but. Yeah, the. Well, anyway, so maybe I should cast a net for one, like, absolute Batman. 275 00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:03.000 One absolute Batman. He's. 276 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:08.000 He's a little young now. 277 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:11.000 True. 278 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:17.000 And influenced and maybe corrupted by Darkseid, but we don't know that yet. We haven't got there. I don't know. 279 00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:18.000 Don't know. 280 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.000 His universe was created by Darkseid, not. Not him. 281 00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:22.000 Not him. 282 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:53.000 Well, anyway, we start out and the kids are playing and Selena is doing all these cat like things and getting Bruce to do them, and he slips and she grabs him. And that's the continuation from the last issue, at least on that part. And I can hear. I can hear one Travis Webb yelling at us to not go panel by panel during Kingdom Come. 283 00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:54.000 Huh. 284 00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:57.000 But I do want to start at the beginning of the book because it's 285 00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:11.000 a good transition because he didn't go every single panel. You just, You. You explained what was going on on the page. Well, and then Travis can. Travis can put that into his pocket and then he can spit on it. 286 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:13.000 Oh, wow. 287 00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:16.000 How do you like that? How do you like them apples? 288 00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:23.000 Are you challenging Travis to us? I mean. Because if we're doing challenges, I have a challenge to make. 289 00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.000 What's your challenge? 290 00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:34.000 Well, right now I wanted to talk about how seamlessly they went from the backstory with Selena into the backstory of Commissioner Gordon carrying him through the zoo. 291 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:35.000 Oh, yeah. Yeah. 292 00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:41.000 And how really cool. This. This is like the coolest profile lion I've ever seen. 293 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:43.000 That's pretty cool. 294 00:30:43.000 --> 00:31:01.000 And I really. I really felt. Again, they're tying up some loose ends here in three, and then they immediately get us right back after we have this nice thing back. Immediately, he's fighting. I've totally forgotten their names. 295 00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:02.000 Oh, the. 296 00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:19.000 I almost called them the Mutants because that's the other Batman. The Party Animals. Thank you. Of course they're the party Animals. I love rooting for the party Animals. I should always remember that. There's so much fun. I saw a video where one popped the ball up in the air and then caught it in his shirt. 297 00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:20.000 Oh, yeah, yeah. 298 00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:30.000 The center fielder. He popped the ball with his glove and then did a spectacular catch by catching into his shirt and then

exposing his eyes, his pecs at the same time. 299 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.000 His testicles. 300 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:38.000 Yeah. No, the Party Animals are great. Sometimes I want them to beat the bananas. 301 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:41.000 You're like, damn you. 302 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:45.000 Yeah. I mean, it's not fair. They shouldn't be the jar. They should not be the Washington Generals. 303 00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:51.000 You know, it's just gonna say the Washington Generals. 304 00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:54.000 But these party animals here. 305 00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:55.000 Yeah. 306 00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:55.000 Is that really what they are? 307 00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:57.000 They are the party animals. 308 00:31:57.000 --> 00:31:59.000 How have I forgotten that? 309 00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.000 I don't know. You put it out of your mind. 310 00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:03.000 Well, no, I'm getting confused with the Mutants from. 311 00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:13.000 Yeah, the Mutants. That's who. That's who in. Yeah. In. In. Other. In. In. Big, older Batman. Yeah, Older Batman. 312 00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:16.000 Big. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And big, older Batman. You're right. 313 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:17.000 Big older Batman. 314 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:34.000 That makes sense. Big, younger. You get a fully confusing. Yeah, yeah. To put big, I had to put. And then I've got, like, movie Batman over here. We've got Batman everywhere. 315 00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:36.000 You got. You got some Batfleck over there. 316 00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:37.000 No. 317 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:39.000 Oh, which. Which movie Batman you got. 318 00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:41.000 No, you got the shiny one. 319 00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:42.000 You got the glittery one. 320 00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:43.000 Christian Bale. 321 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:58.000 Oh, Christian Bale. You know, honestly, I'm not gonna lie. And I know that you don't like it, but I don't mind me. That new Batman. Oh, shit. 322 00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:08.000 I walked here, and then I walked here, and then I walked here. I walked here. This. But you know why this Batman is awesome? Because he has a giant car with, like, teeth. 323 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:14.000 He does. It's pretty sweet. I thought you were going to challenge. You're going to make a challenge a minute ago. 324 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:15.000 I'm. I'm working up to it. 325 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:20.000 Okay. He's working up to it, folks. I thought, you know, he got. He got me excited. I didn't know what he was doing. 326 00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:25.000 Anyway, this Batmobile is awesome. It has, like. It's guns or something. 327 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:29.000 It's a. It's. It's a big, beefy Batmobile. 328 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:33.000 This is a gun. 329 00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:34.000 Is this. 330 00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:38.000 Are these like the guns in. In GI Joe that never kill anything? 331 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:41.000 I think they're like. They're. Oh, what do they call them? Less than lethal. Yeah. 332 00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:47.000 Yeah. Less. Wow. 333 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:59.000 It's just that they're shooting. It's a projectile launcher. It's not a. Not a bullet. It's. It's just like a hard rubber ball. 334 00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:01.000 Then there's this page with 900 panels. 335 00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:07.000 Huh? Yes. 336 00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:13.000 Yeah. And it works. 337 00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:14.000 Yeah, it does work. 338 00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:53.000 It's. And so what they're doing here. And this is where comic books, being a visual medium is important. Yeah. Because. Well, it does. But the story shows. So this page shows Batman in two of the 9,000 panels on it and just a side profile. Right. But it shows. I guess we forgot to mention that Alfred is on the Batmobile. In the Batmobile. Yeah. So he gets down there, and he's watching in astonishment. And his. That facial expression. The reaction is amazing. 339 00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:55.000 Yeah. 340 00:34:55.000 --> 00:35:02.000 And the reaction of the party animals, even though you can't see their faces, it's very clear what's going on. 341 00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:04.000 Yeah. They're getting decimated. 342 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:27.000 Yeah. As the giant bat ball takes care of everything. And then we get our Keystone Cop moment on the next page, which I think we mentioned a couple podcasts ago, there's going to be a Keystone Cop moment. And it looks like. It looks. It almost looks like it's the start. It's the beginning of the scene from Blues Brothers. 343 00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:28.000 Oh, totally. 344 00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.000 In Chicago. 345 00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:34.000 Yep. They can drive through them all, but 346 00:35:34.000 --> 00:36:07.000 we do the app opposite. Instead of driving over the bridge and watching all the Nazis fall into the bridge. And I didn't mean the cops, by the way. If, you know, Blues Brothers, The Nazis were the ones that felt they were. They were actual Nazis. I was not. I want to be very clear. I was not saying police are Nazis. I only say ice are Nazis. I don't say the police are Nazis. So I just want to be very clear that we're distinguished. Ice Nazis, Nazis and Blues Brothers. That war. Schwastic is Nazis. 347 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:08.000 Nazis. 348 00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:27.000 Police, not Nazis. Except the Pierce County Sheriff. So true. Now we'll go into the. But he just dives the Batmobile into the water. And then we just get another facial expression from Alfred, which is because he. 349 00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:33.000 He hit the eject button. Meow. Shot him out into the space. 350 00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:38.000 Yeah. And I. I love this, because Alfred is, like, trying to give him advice, 351 00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:40.000 and he's not happy, and he's just 352 00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:42.000 like, I don't care. 353 00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:46.000 Yeah. Doing my own thing on the bed. 354 00:36:46.000 -->

00:36:53.000 Do you think he would say things like, Boomer, maybe. Shut up, Boomer. 355 00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:54.000 I don't know. I don't know. 356 00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:55.000 I. 357 00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:57.000 He might be a little more Respectful. 358 00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:00.000 Do you think he was non plussed by that advice he was getting? 359 00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:05.000 Yeah, definitely. He was like, whatever 360 00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:09.000 by the sixth or seventh time. 361 00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:15.000 Yeah. Tap, tap, tap. Excuse me, Mr. Batman. 362 00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:21.000 Just trying things right now. I have to teach real life humans this week. It's gonna be interesting. 363 00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:24.000 Oh, boy. They're gonna call you a boomer. 364 00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:27.000 Oh, they already do. I don't care. 365 00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:30.000 You gotta bring up some Yu Gi oh cards, Dan. 366 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:34.000 That part doesn't bug me. Oh, yeah, That'll make me look young. 367 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:40.000 Yeah, it will. Why is Yu making a comeback always, Dan? 368 00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:47.000 They were just happy that I have a Dragon Ball Z bag that I come bring with me. And then we talk about that. So. 369 00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:56.000 And then. And then you tell them that you're. You're also into what is the One piece. You're in the One piece? 370 00:37:56.000 --> 00:38:00.000 No, you should be. Oh, I don't know anything about it 371 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:02.000 except that you better get into it. 372 00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:06.000 Better get into it with all of my extra time. Sure. 373 00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:07.000 Do it. There's only. 374 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.000 I'll watch One Piece between reading Absolute Batman. 375 00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:11.000 There's too many episodes. 376 00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:13.000 You won't ever get through contracts. 377 00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:16.000 There's two. 378 00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:23.000 Well, there are too many episodes of Dragon Ball too. And I haven't even watched that yet. And I've only watched Dragon Ball Z, so I'm not even watching the right order. And. 379 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:25.000 And damn. 380 00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:50.000 I only watch it while I carry giant heavy sandbags around a gym. Well, we get back to the flashback scene with Bruce and Selina, and she sneaks him into a movie. And I like how they work this in because I tried to give this away too soon by accidentally talking about Zorro before. Yes, because Zoro's part of the mythos. 381 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:51.000 Is it? 382 00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:54.000 But she takes him to watch Zorro. 383 00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:55.000 Tell me. 384 00:38:55.000 --> 00:39:32.000 After his dad died. So I. I. Again, it's one of those. I brought something from the mythos in, but didn't use it in the same way. Yeah, I just. I like for. For a new reader, it means nothing. Yeah, she took him in and made him watch a movie. Right, Right. And that means something because you're seeing the relationship. I shouldn't say it means nothing, but for a Batman fan, even a casual one, you're getting a reference to something that. And I know I'm missing hundreds of these references because I'm not a huge Batman person, so it's all right. 385 00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:35.000 Yeah. You are becoming one of them, despite 386 00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:55.000 the giant Batman collection behind you. Not collection, but I really don't have a lot of Batman books, honestly, compared to. If I take a percentage of my collection, the Batman books would be a fairly small percentage relative to everything else that I have. And I wouldn't even say that much. 387 00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:57.000 5%? 388 00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:58.000 Yeah, I'd say under 5. 389 00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:00.000 2%. 390 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:12.000 I don't know, but I don't know if it's that low. But I don't know where you're going. Traded Grill Meade and Cross X link. What's, what's happening right now? Would you say it's 5% if you 391 00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:17.000 would take Batman and all the crossover books that you own where Batman is a character? 392 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:22.000 Oh, well, yeah, I'm not counting Justice League books and crossover books, but you 393 00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:36.000 have to because he's part of the Justice League and he's a character in those stories, Dan. So I believe that the percentage that you're saying that you have a Batman books to the percentage that you don't think that you have is greater than. So therefore you're a liar. 394 00:40:36.000 --> 00:41:01.000 Well, under that comic book collection system, Alan was using our former guest, Alan Wu. Yes. Where he had all the Wolverine in his collection. I bet you would be correct. So for using those definitions, I wasn't trying to debate because I'm not good enough for debate. We've already established that, so. 395 00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:04.000 No, you are. That's the problem. You're too good, Dan. 396 00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:05.000 Yeah. 397 00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:11.000 You can't have a ringer every time. Oh, we need to have a jobber like myself. 398 00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:15.000 Also, I think you all would just pick topics I don't know anything about. 399 00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:54.000 That's the thing, is that we never know what's going to be thrown out there. Honestly. Do you want to know what one of them was? Who would you rather be haunted by? The ghost of Macho Man Savage, Randy Savage, or the ghost of Gallagher? Well, obviously we know which ghost you want to be haunted by and we know which ghost you don't want to be haunted by. But people don't want to say they. That the worst ghost is the ghost. That is the real ghost that you don't want to be haunted by. That is the real ghost. That, that doesn't make any sense. And everybody wants the ghost that, that they love. And it's hard to debate that. 400 00:41:54.000

--> 00:41:56.000 Well, that's also not a debate topic. 401 00:41:56.000 --> 00:42:00.000 It's really not. But that's, that's how the debates work, Dan. 402 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:05.000 Well, that's, that's silly. You should have topics that you debate, you know, that are clear and easy to understand. 403 00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:11.000 Well, that's, that's how, that's how unnecessary debates goes. 404 00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:23.000 Well, we get the skull from the party animals and we've got a wonderful man working on it. Mr. Enigma. 405 00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:25.000 Yes. Eddie. 406 00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:47.000 Eddie, Eddie. Yeah. I keep calling Mr. Enigma Eddie. Eddie. And Bruce, you know, it's, I like, I also, it does, you know, Bruce also, he does a lot of songs, you know, and. 407 00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:51.000 Hit Bruce and, and the Eddie Street Band. 408 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:58.000 Yeah. You remember when he did the, the Mad Max soundtrack song? 409 00:42:58.000 --> 00:42:59.000 Yeah. 410 00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:00.000 You know Fury Road? 411 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:01.000 Yeah. 412 00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:09.000 Oh, Fury Road. Oh yeah, Dent it. Yeah. Remember that one? Yeah. It was good times. That joke's terrible. 413 00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:11.000 It is. That's an awful joke. 414 00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:13.000 It's a terrible joke. 415 00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.000 The guitar solo was amazing though. 416 00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:17.000 Yeah. 417 00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:19.000 It was on fire. 418 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:29.000 I really like how young in contrast to the big beefy Batman suit that Nick Dragota makes Bruce look. 419 00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:35.000 Oh yeah. I mean he looks like a, like a 20 something year old kid. 420 00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:39.000 Yeah. And how Eddie looks too. 421 00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:42.000 Kids goofing around in a lab. 422 00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:59.000 Yeah, well, one is goofing around in a lab and one is looking at his incredibly smart friend incredibly frustrated over the slowness of his processing of the explanation of everything. And then they call their friend Harvey the lawyer. 423 00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:00.000 Yes. 424 00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:02.000 By the way. 425 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:03.000 Yeah. 426 00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:06.000 You know an even better lawyer than a young Harvey Dent. 427 00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:07.000 Who's that? 428 00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:14.000 One that would not flip a coin and try to murder you if the wrong side came up. 429 00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:15.000 Who would that be? 430 00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:19.000 He'd only try to murder you if you came to his gym and challenged him. 431 00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:22.000 Would he try to murder you or just make you tap out? 432 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:25.000 Well, I mean, it might murder you if you chose not to tap out. 433 00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:30.000 I, I, I would, I would hate that. I would hate to think that, that, 434 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:33.000 that, but it's not murder. You know why? 435 00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:35.000 Because you consented. 436 00:44:35.000 --> 00:45:25.000 Huh? You're correct. It's not murder. Because in the intentional torch theory that I studied last month. Yeah. You know, in, in sports where you agree to have a combat, then you can't be, it's, it's not, it's not assault. Right. Because it's agreed to that. It's none of those things, actually. It's none of those things. No. If somebody, if they, now obviously it might be a wrongful death or something like that. It's a different, different. But if you, if you did it in relation to the sporting activity, it would be hard to prove and, and everything was above board. It'd be hard to prove to a. Now do you Remember the Marty McSorley case in the 2000s? The Hockey Player that went and hit the guy in the back of the head with his stick after the glove fight was over? 437 00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:26.000 I don't remember that. 438 00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:30.000 Well, that might be grounds that that example might be grounds for. For assault. 439 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:32.000 That's an assault. That's an assault. 440 00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:41.000 Because that wasn't part of the normal play of the sport anyway. See all the things I've learned because I've been studying under one wise Jiu Jitsu lawyer, Paul. 441 00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:45.000 Oh, wow. It's like you have your own. Your, your own sensei. 442 00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:52.000 Yeah. I'm sure when he listens to this, he's going to correct in his brain everything I just said and make sure he tells me what I got wrong. 443 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:56.000 He's going to be like, dan, you are way off. 444 00:45:56.000 --> 00:46:05.000 He's going to say, you're way off. You should not. Just to be clear, you should never listen to me for legal advice, but if you need good legal advice, don't call Harvey Dent. 445 00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:06.000 Don't call Harvey Dent. Call Jiu Jitsu. 446 00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:11.000 Letter Paul at 253-656-4475. 447 00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:13.000 Oh, my gosh, what was that number again? 448 00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:24.000 It was 253-656-4475. And you can talk to the wonderful Kelly and you could get a consultation booked. 449 00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:27.000 Do it if you need it. Hopefully you don't. 450 00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:30.000 We hope you don't, but if you do. 451 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:31.000 Yeah. 452 00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:43.000 And you know, that's if your employer was doing terrible things to you, like discriminating against you, taking your wages away, forcing you to return to the office five days a week when you have an accommodation. 453 00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.000 Yeah. 454 00:46:45.000 --> 00:47:03.000 Those things are not okay. Those accommodations don't just disappear because the CEO has decided they want more people to buy things at the restaurants in downtown Seattle. It's. Or, or the barbecue place across from. Oh, I'm

not gonna say what company, wherever. 455 00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:04.000 That company. 456 00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:36.000 But it's very good. But. And it should be. Patrons should go there. It's very good, but. Yeah, you should. Anyway, these are good reasons to contact Paul. And sometimes if he can't handle your case, he might know somebody that can. So don't be afraid to give Paul a call for something. And he's going to be honest with you too, whether or not you have a case. So unlike me, who is not trustworthy. And you should never listen to me about the law because I'm just learning it. You should talk to somebody that knows. 457 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:55.000 I had a friend that needed legal help and I got them in touch with Paul and Paul was not the right fit. But Paul had three other people that he said, these are people that I know and trust. You can reach out to them. And they found hope. 458 00:47:55.000 --> 00:48:28.000 Juan, I just watched something, you know, talking about some of the major insurance companies and how Little. They pay out their claims. And so I'll just say, whether it's Paul or anyone, if you're in a car accident or you're having an issue with your homeowner's insurance or something like that, you know, the minute you feel anything or you're getting strange offers and things like that, contact a lawyer, have them negotiate on your behalf. You will be much better off. 459 00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:29.000 Yeah. 460 00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:41.000 Personally, I was in a car accident a year and a half ago now and I still haven't been paid out properly. And the insurance was nice enough to offer the exact amount of the health care costs. 461 00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:44.000 Oh, that was very nice of them. 462 00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:50.000 Yeah. I mean, that doesn't account for all the back issues I was having, as you recall, and all the other things. 463 00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:54.000 The back issues, the trauma, car. 464 00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:58.000 Yeah, yeah. And so, you know, fantastic. 465 00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:02.000 You know, lost of time for work, all those things. Yeah, yeah. 466 00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:10.000 And so, you know, that's where you have somebody negotiating on your behalf who actually understands the law going to help you out. And in this case, how it relates to Batman. 467 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:11.000 Yeah. 468 00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:16.000 Is they run into a legal question and they call. Immediately call their lawyer friend. 469 00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:20.000 That's what you do. 470 00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:43.000 And he. I do want to highlight this part because he mentions he looked into that arc M fund they mentioned last time because I know that's going to play out later. So I'm gonna highlight that. He says a lot of the funding comes from a company called JK Holdings. Do you think by chance they're taking a shot of a certain author of a wizard's book who is a complete and total piece of. 471 00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:59.000 I mean, they could be, but I also think it could be something else. But I mean, I'm gonna agree that with the last part of the thing that you said. A wizard writer who is a total piece of. 472 00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:02.000 Yeah. 473 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:14.000 Yeah. Still frustrating. I mean, to no end, because he. It's one of the situations. I. I will say it. It's one of those situations where you can't. 474 00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:15.000 You. It. 475 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:21.000 It's so. So messy that you can't even unwind the, The. The. 476 00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:22.000 The. 477 00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:26.000 The like for the thing because of the tentacles that are tied around it. 478 00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:29.000 Well, I mean, people seem to. But I can't. So I can't either. 479 00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:42.000 And it's just so frustrating because, you know, at one point in my life there was a. A liking for said things and. Yeah. No, just gone. 480 00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:45.000 Yeah. I mean, it's like trying to watch Rick and Morty. 481 00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:48.000 Yeah, There you go. Yeah. Yeah. 482 00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:54.000 You can't not think about it when you're watching a show. 483 00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:58.000 Yeah, that was a whole conversation in the car. 484 00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:13.000 Yeah. Even when, even when they change who's doing the voices. Yeah, it's the. Yeah. Anyway, so. Well, maybe I would have been great for the car ride then. 485 00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:15.000 Next time. 486 00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:32.000 Anyway, yeah, we, we go back to find Mr. Roman Sionis, the head of this whole negative operation, and remember when I said I hate Harvey Bullock and he's a piece of. 487 00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:33.000 Yeah. 488 00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:39.000 And I. Surprised. Yeah. Well, here you go. He's already a corrupt cop in issue three, so. 489 00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:41.000 Well, there you go. 490 00:51:41.000 --> 00:52:15.000 And Roman Sionis. The best way I can describe with this helmet thing on and the speedo that he's wearing is this is literally everything that Elon Musk wants to be. Yeah, this is like Elon Musk's ultimate fantasy character. 491 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:22.000 But he, but he can't do that because he's got like a weird cake shaped body. 492 00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:26.000 Yes, but this is his fantasy character. Like he really wants to be. 493 00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:33.000 He wants a doppel helmet and, and, and the ability to wear. 494 00:52:33.000 --> 00:53:00.000 I was just thinking the more ability. So we're gonna get us. We're gonna get a series of pages where Roman establishes his physical strength or prowess. I guess he's, he's a jiu jitsu master, like jiu jitsu lawyer, Paul. And he's fighting basically a UFC fighter or pro wrestler. M. And he's doing it, but he's all skinny and yogi shaped. 495 00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:02.000 Yeah. 496 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:08.000 And he breaks the guy's arm

with a arm suspect arm bar, I might add. 497 00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:13.000 So he's like built like, like, like your friend Jeff from the Internet. 498 00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:34.000 Yeah, sure. I think, I think my. Yeah, it's interesting because, like, I do think there are some actually funny jiu jitsu videos on the Internet where a smaller guy goes against a big guy and they're like doing the arm bar thing and the bigger guy just lifts him up and looks at him. 499 00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:35.000 Yeah. 500 00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:59.000 Because he's like, technique is, is, is a thing, but if you are so much smaller. Technique can work, but it doesn't always anyway. But he murders the guy he's fighting or he turns him into a zombie because he gets red eyes. So I'm not exactly sure. 501 00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:04.000 I, I, I think he. 502 00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:05.000 You think he's dead dead? 503 00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:14.000 I, I think he, he's dead dead. I think he, I think he breaks his blood vessels by strangulation. 504 00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:23.000 Ah. Do you think he's dead dead like the. Oh, so he's dead dead like the ninjas. The, the red suit ninjas? 505 00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:25.000 Yeah, I like the red suit ninjas. 506 00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:30.000 Oh, that, that was disturbing. I didn't know they were going to die like that. 507 00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:31.000 Dead. Dead. 508 00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:36.000 Snake Eyes doesn't murder people. You know, like he just hurts them a little bit and just. 509 00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:39.000 Snake eyes. Snake eyers. See, he. He burst. 510 00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:43.000 Oh, we keep ruining my childhood and all these things. 511 00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:45.000 Sorry. 512 00:54:45.000 --> 00:55:13.000 So, well, anyway, we get this going and we've got our. So we've got corrupt cops and we've got a show off billionaire, I guess. Well, Batman wants to. I mean, Bruce. Bruce wants to do some spying and he's got his help from a super spy. 513 00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:18.000 Kind of his super spirit in the background. 514 00:55:18.000 --> 00:56:06.000 Yeah. We start to find out about all these arcs, right? Arc A, Arc B, arc C. And Arc M is going to be like this new home kind of place, Right. So there's secret unregulated prisons run in conjunction with other governments around the world. So apparently there's one in Santa Prisca, one in Russia, one in China. And Ark M is going to be Metrop, not Metropolis. That would make sense. ARM is going to be Gotham. Maybe it should have been ArcG. Well, then you couldn't have Arkham, like Arkham Asylum. I get it, but. So if you didn't have Arkham Asylum, ARCG would have made more sense, right? 515 00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:15.000 It would have made. Yeah. If you weren't calling for the Art M of Arkham. Yeah. 516 00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:37.000 And as Batman goes to his solitary self there, we get another flashback at the theater. And Selina has invited all of Bruce's friends that he wouldn't see all the friends he knows later, and they all attack him with popcorn while they're watching Zorro. And suddenly Zorro becomes like a super sweet moment in Bruce's wild life. 517 00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:38.000 Yeah. 518 00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:57.000 Instead of the worst. Well, right before the worst moment. Right. It's like in this case, watching Zoro's friends is like the redemption arc. But I guess in regular Batman too, I mean, you could argue that watching Zorro was the last fun thing he did in life before his parents were murdered in front of him. 519 00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:08.000 Yeah. Supposed to be a good. A good moment, but it was the end of his childhood and this is like the continuation. It's like the. The restart of it. 520 00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:16.000 And the reason for him to like be in Gotham. Right. To not run away or not go Right. With monks or something or. 521 00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:17.000 Yeah. 522 00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:24.000 Isolate himself. He's not super rich. He's not going to isolate himself to his house. He has to live in the city and interact with people and. 523 00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:25.000 Yeah. 524 00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:32.000 Understands them just to. It's a nice. Yeah. Again, Batman of the people. 525 00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:33.000 Batman of the people. 526 00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:35.000 Should we, shall we say. 527 00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:49.000 Yeah. And It's. And you look at the bottom panel and. And you get that staff of his mom in the background. You know, she's there. She's watching everything with. 528 00:57:49.000 --> 00:59:05.000 And then we get back to his mom now, and he has found out all this stuff, but he can't tell her he's found out all this stuff. So she's going to try to be deputy mayor and support Commissioner Gordon. And he's like, I don't want you to go out there and stuff. And she's like, but why? And he's like, but I don't want you to. And then he tries to insult her. No, I'm convicted. And then he's like, well, she mentions. Then you try anyway. That's who we are, who I am, who your father was. And Bruce says, and look how it turned out for him. And then she says, I'm going to kiss you now so I don't slap you. And she leaves. And Bruce looks very sad. We get a. A page where Alfred checks in on his daughter he was told to stay away from. We go back to Mr. Corrupt Hill for mayor being on television with some muted pages. So it looks like some TV coverage. Right. We've got like the. 529 00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:06.000 Right. 530 00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:51.000 The party animals doing their thing, destroying stuff with the Bat building in the background. We've got the corrupt guy for mayor with Bullock now hanging out next to him and endorsing him. And we get him on a Fox and Friends or Morning Joe or whatever equivalent thing we've got. And then it. We are slowing down. I'm gearing down for a reason. Because it does. The book's gearing down right now and getting us ready for the next

book. Yeah, but we get a flashback page and this page. Yeah, you've just. This is sometimes where, you know, this is where I can't go. Panel. Panel through. You've got to read this book. 531 00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:52.000 Yeah. 532 00:59:51.000 --> 01:00:00.000 Because this last page ties together the zoo. Right. The bats are not blind. So, like, back to why he's doing the surveillance. 533 01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:01.000 Right. 534 01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:32.000 And everything. He's got the mask, and he doesn't know what he's going to do with it. And on TV, Batman gets offered $200 million to stand down for one week. And not rich. Batman is. Looks conflicted. 535 01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:33.000 Yeah. 536 01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:44.000 Like, what could I do if I was uber rich? If I had $200 million, how much help could I do for the city? Does it go against everything I'm going to do? 537 01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:46.000 What could I do? What. 538 01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:57.000 What will it help? And his answer here is, I'll take it. And I Quit reading the book. 539 01:00:57.000 --> 01:00:58.000 You didn't quit reading the book. 540 01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:02.000 I did not. I wanted to know what was going to happen next. 541 01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:16.000 Want to know? As you should. I mean, it's. It's that good. It makes you want to keep going because you want to. You got to know why. Why would he take it? What. What. What's. What's going to happen? 542 01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:29.000 And I did. I, I, I really. I just. From a writing. I was. I was pissed by it, which I think you're supposed to be, of course. And then if you're not, from a curiosity standpoint, I wanted to know how they'd write out of it. 543 01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:52.000 I mean, there's a. There's a number of directions you can go. It's like. It's like a chessboard. You know, you just got to figure out which piece is Bruce Wayne, AKA Batman, playing at the moment, because every piece has a unique way of moving, depending on your opening and your closing. 544 01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:56.000 Well. Well, speaking of playing and challenging. 545 01:01:56.000 --> 01:01:58.000 Yeah. 546 01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:05.000 Yeah. Since he can do it better, I challenge one Mike Tanner. 547 01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:06.000 Oh. 548 01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:08.000 Or Michael Tanner. 549 01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:11.000 A Michael Tanner. 550 01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:16.000 To come on this podcast with a book he wants us to review. 551 01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:18.000 Oh. 552 01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:21.000 Because he needs to establish his superiority. 553 01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:25.000 Oh, really? 554 01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:26.000 Yeah. 555 01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:28.000 You're putting the challenge out there, Dan. 556 01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:32.000 I'm putting the challenge out there Again. I, I, he goes unresponded to every 557 01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:37.000 week, but it does go unresponded. You know why? Because he doesn't listen

to the podcast. 558 01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:44.000 Yeah, I, I just thought it was like when Chris Jericho in WCW would challenge Goldberg every week. 559 01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:45.000 Oh, yeah. 560 01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:58.000 Yeah. I'm just so far below his level that he doesn't need to respond. No, it's just like, AT and T never responds to Verizon and T Mobile 561 01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:00.000 because they're so far above. 562 01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:06.000 Well, statistically, yes. I mean, I don't do business. Well, I do do business with them now. My stupid Internet is through them. 563 01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:23.000 You know who I like better? I'm gonna tell you, because they bought Fiverr. I, I like that one that you just have the phone that you push the one or two buttons on that you get all the crickets. No, no, the other one. What's that? The. The lightning bug, the June bug, The. 564 01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:24.000 The jitterbug. 565 01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:27.000 Jitterbug. That's the one. 566 01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:34.000 Yeah. They stole. They stole a song from an amazing artist and put it in an old person's commercial. 567 01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:38.000 I didn't steal the paper. I bought it. That's fair. 568 01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:42.000 Do you think his estate probably needs it? I guess. 569 01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:52.000 Yeah. Yeah. The, the jitter book phone, folks. That's That's. That's the. 570 01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:54.000 That's the phone level of tech you need. 571 01:03:54.000 --> 01:04:10.000 That's really. When you think about it, do you. Do you need everything in your. Do you need everything in the palm of your hand or just something. Yes. Do you really? Yeah. Why I use it. Do. Do you really? 572 01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:11.000 I do. 573 01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:13.000 Do you think so? 574 01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:21.000 Anyway, you know what, though? I think to relax, I think, you know, it's a good time to mention the. Because we're wrapped up here. 575 01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:22.000 Yeah. 576 01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:23.000 And in a reasonable time frame. 577 01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:25.000 In fact, it's amazing. 578 01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:27.000 It's probably a good idea. 579 01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:31.000 I think you putting posters into frames just put you in the right frame of mind, Dan. 580 01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:44.000 Well, I was already loving this book too, and super focused on it. But the. I will say might be a good time to remention the Retro Emporium on Meeker street in Kent, Washington. Because, you know who needs a jitterbug phone? 581 01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:45.000 Who's that? 582 01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:50.000 Well, one owner of the Retro Emporium, Anne Smith. And do you know why she needs a jitterbug phone? 583 01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:54.000 Because she's always on her phone and she needs different. 584 01:04:54.000 --> 01:05:01.000 The business is so successful that she doesn't have time to answer all the requests while she's working. 585 01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:02.000 That's true. 586 01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:25.000 That come in. And so she needs to stay laser focused on those folks that are right there. That's because people come to the Retro Emporium. And if you want to have that, if you want to smell the Fruit Loops, if you want to relive your childhood, Retro Emporium on Meeker street in Kent, Washington, you can't miss it. And you might see Greg. You'll never see the Squacho man, and you'll see David. 587 01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:31.000 You'll see the Squacho man and you'll see David. You will sometimes you'll see Greg. 588 01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:37.000 And if you check their Instagram or their Facebook, you'll find out when bands are playing. 589 01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:40.000 That's true. We have bands. They come play. 590 01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:50.000 I feel like we just keep adding things to advertise. And of course, here in Tacoma, every. Every third Friday of the month, you've got Friday Night frights. It's Blue Mouse Theater. I went. 591 01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:52.000 You went. 592 01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:55.000 Poster for Mark Brill for. You know what this was, Greg. 593 01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:57.000 How much was it? 594 01:05:57.000 --> 01:05:58.000 10 bucks. 595 01:05:58.000 --> 01:05:59.000 10 bucks. 596 01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:00.000 That's it. 597 01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:02.000 That's a steal. 598 01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:05.000 I know. And I found all about this guy. 599 01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:07.000 Oh, yeah? 600 01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:10.000 Yeah. Because, you know, zombies can learn. 601 01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:13.000 They can learn. And he liked to use it. 602 01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:14.000 This was not a good movie. 603 01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:16.000 It was a great movie, but, boy, 604 01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:21.000 was it fun to watch it In a group with a group of people laughing at all the funny parts. 605 01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:25.000 Day of the Dead or Dawn of the Dead. Which one do you like better? Probably dawn of the Dead. 606 01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:28.000 Dawn of the Dead. Both. Both versions. 607 01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:29.000 Bulk versions? 608 01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:32.000 Yeah, yeah. The original and the mall. 609 01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:35.000 Yeah, yeah. And the new version. 610 01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:37.000 Yeah, yeah. 611 01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:39.000 But they're both malls. 612 01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:40.000 Oh, sorry. 613 01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:46.000 Original originally or crispy? 614 01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:48.000 Hang on, I'm getting confused. 615 01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:50.000 They're both in malls. 616 01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:52.000 Dawn of the Dead came out before Day of the Dead. 617 01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:55.000 No, no. Well, there's. There's two versions of. 618 01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:57.000 There's the second one. Yeah. 619 01:06:57.000 --> 01:06:59.000 There's. There's Night of Living Dead, dawn of the Dead. 620 01:06:59.000 -->

01:07:02.000 There's the Day of the Dead and then there's dawn of the Dead again. 621 01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:09.000 There's Day of the Dead and then dawn of. There's another dawn of the Dead. There's another. There's two legs of the living dead, maybe three. 622 01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:12.000 I don't mean dawn of the Dead 2004. 623 01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:18.000 Why not? That's a good one. No, I'm thinking the fast moving zombies. Slow zombies. 624 01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:26.000 Wait, I think. Well, no, I like it. I think I was talking about. I don't know what I'm talking about. 625 01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:29.000 Do you tell every of the Dead? 626 01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:31.000 I've never seen that. 627 01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:33.000 Are you sure? 628 01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:37.000 I have seen the dawn of the Dead. Where? They're in the mall. Right. Well, that's what I'm thinking about. 629 01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:41.000 The. From the 70s, right? Yeah, yeah, that's. That's. 630 01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:43.000 And they end up on the island at the end. 631 01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:45.000 Yeah, that's. That's the original dawn of the Dead. 632 01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:48.000 Yeah, I like that movie. Okay, this movie. Not good. 633 01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:51.000 That's. That's Day of the Dead. That's. 634 01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:54.000 I've not seen the new dawn of the Dead. I don't think. 635 01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:57.000 Oh, you should watch it. 636 01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:04.000 But I love the original. I love Night of Living Dead. I love dawn of the Dead. Day of the Dead, it was. 637 01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:10.000 Was Return of the Living Dead with the punk zombies. 638 01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:12.000 Actors were so terrible in Day of the Dead. 639 01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:24.000 You got, you. You got Return of the Living Dead, Punk rock zombies. I remember being a kid and my mom wanted USCA and I think I shouldn't have seen that movie. 640 01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:30.000 Yes. What about Shaun of the Dead? 641 01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:31.000 Sean of the Dead? 642 01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:32.000 I have. 643 01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:41.000 I got the double feature disc of the new dawn of the Dead and Shaun of the Dead. I had to watch Shaun of the Dead after I watched dawn of the Dead. 644 01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:43.000 Yeah, Shaun of the Dead is a fantastic. 645 01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:48.000 I needed. I needed a good laugh after I watched something that was just draining. 646 01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:51.000 Well, to get a laugh, you could watch Day of the Dead and Shaun of the Dead. 647 01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:56.000 Ah, well, I mean, of course. But I mean, 648 01:08:56.000 --> 01:09:19.000 I mean, I, I, I appreciate what they were trying to do with Day of the Dead. I appreciated Danny Bole even more because it is fast zombies versus slow zombies. But Danny Bole does in 25 minutes with the military people what they try to do in an hour and a half in Day of the Dead. 649 01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:29.000 Dan, you're talking about, you're talking about 28 days later. Yeah, that's not zombies. Those are people of rage. They have a, they have a rage virus. 650 01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:30.000 Those are fast zombies. 651 01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:36.000 That's not, it's not, it's not. They're not zombies. They have a. They're people who are affected with a rage virus. 652 01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:38.000 Those are fast zombies. 653 01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:39.000 They're not zombies. 654 01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:40.000 They're dead. 655 01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:46.000 They're not dead. They are still alive. They have a rage virus. They have a rage virus. 656 01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:47.000 They're dead. 657 01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:48.000 They're not dead. 658 01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:49.000 They're dead. 659 01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:50.000 They're not dead. 660 01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:51.000 They're dead. 661 01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:52.000 Not dead. 662 01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:55.000 Yes. When people die, they get the rage virus. 663 01:09:55.000 --> 01:10:05.000 No, they don't die from the rage virus. They get the virus and then they continue living until they do die. But they don't die from the rage virus. 664 01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:08.000 Actually, 665 01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:10.000 have you watched all the movies, Dan? 666 01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:13.000 Huh? Even the last shitty one? Yes. 667 01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:18.000 Now then you die. Do you know how the virus works, Dan? 668 01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:20.000 You know what, Craig? 669 01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:21.000 Yeah. 670 01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:35.000 For the purposes of this discussion, I would like to have two classification groups. One classification group is slow zombies. Those are the ones that go. And then I would like fast zombies, the ones that run at you and scare you. And those are. 671 01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:38.000 And that's like Train of Busan. There you go. 672 01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:45.000 And so even if they're not technically zombies, they still fit into my classification category. 673 01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:48.000 Listeners. I want your input. 674 01:10:48.000 --> 01:11:07.000 And fast zombies destroy civilization. And slow zombies allow people to rebuild civilization around them. That's the basic premise. And the military can't deal with either of them. 675 01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:09.000 That's true. They can't. 676 01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:10.000 You know what could, though? 677 01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:12.000 What? 678 01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:15.000 Space force. 679 01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:17.000 A space horse. 680 01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:18.000 Space force. 681 01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:28.000 Not space horse. A space horse. Wow. A horse from space coming down and, and, and helping out. That would be pretty, pretty empowering and pretty cool. 682 01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:30.000 Well, that and the Canine Space Patrol. 683 01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:34.000 Yeah, See that? Those are two

great things. 684 01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:38.000 Yes. Canine Space Patrol would be, they would be amazing. 685 01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:41.000 That's like Air Bud when he goes to space. 686 01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:42.000 No, no. 687 01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:44.000 Oh, because that was a good movie. 688 01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:45.000 I like that one. 689 01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:47.000 Oh, 690 01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:48.000 God. 691 01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:49.000 Yeah. 692 01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:51.000 I don't think they would let airbud in. 693 01:11:51.000 --> 01:12:13.000 I, I don't know. I've seen the movie. I really enjoyed it. I was surprised that. That dogs could fly a space shuttle, but they. They made it happen in the movie, so therefore I believe it. Yeah, Anything is possible with movie magic, Dan. Even your fast zombies that aren't zombies. 694 01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:23.000 I. I don't know why you're so. Is this. Is this something I've been missing in pop culture lore forever? That this is actually a huge debate that I don't know about? 695 01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:29.000 It is. I mean, yes. 696 01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:32.000 I think those folks need to get a life. 697 01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:35.000 Danny Boyle even says they're not zombies when he's wrong. 698 01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:36.000 I don't care what he says. 699 01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:44.000 He's the guy that made the movie. Although I think it's a director bought from the comic books that 700 01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:45.000 I thought 701 01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:49.000 you're gonna be like, here's the thing about the zombies. 702 01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:53.000 No, I went to a much happier place. 703 01:12:53.000 --> 01:13:06.000 I really think the first, like, 10 minutes of 28 days later is literally the first 28 minutes or first. First 12 minutes of the Walking Dead. But, I mean, who am I? 704 01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:15.000 Oh, the Walking Dead. Completely ripped off. Yeah, but, I mean. But then again, like, I don't want to say ripped off. I want to say use artistic license. Right? Like, it was. 705 01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:19.000 I think the Walking Dead came out. The comic book came out roughly way after. 706 01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:20.000 No way. 707 01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:21.000 It came after. 708 01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:24.000 Way, way, like, ten years after. 709 01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:27.000 Ten years after. Okay, I. I really didn't. 710 01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:34.000 Oh, yeah. The beginning of the Walking Dead is a complete ripoff of the beginning of the book. Days Later. Yeah, both. 711 01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:35.000 Okay. 712 01:13:35.000 --> 01:14:32.000 Yeah, the comic. Yeah, it's complete ripoff. And. But again, just like I said, I don't say complete ripoff, but the looking at the military theme and how they interacted with the people and how they did that in Day of the Dead. I mean, those two things are. Are similar, too. I mean, I think just Danny Bole had better actors and a better script. Right. Like, I don't know who that military guy was. The actor in Day of the Dead, he's terrible, and I think it's supposed to be that way, but. Oh, yeah, it's just, you know, it's. He's. He's a terrible actor. I mean, I think George Romero has that ability to either, you know, do it right or do it right, and sometimes doing it right is making the characters laughable. Right. Which is. Is. Is what he's doing. So I don't want to say it's. So when I say it's a terrible movie, I mean it's a terrible movie. But did I enjoy watching it? 713 01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:33.000 Yeah. 714 01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:35.000 Oh. Oh, yeah. I loved watching it. It was fantastic. 715 01:14:35.000 --> 01:15:11.000 I think, honestly, if you want to watch something that's really good and comparable, if you were to watch the 70s crazies that he put together and then you watch the remake that was done in the 2000s, like Travis and the three of us were talking about both of billions equally good. You get, you get fast moving zombies for people who are infected and becoming zombie like. But it's, it's interesting and you get a better representation of how the military acts or doesn't act. 716 01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:15.000 Okay, okay. By, by the way, you are. You are correct. 717 01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:16.000 What? 718 01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:17.000 You're never gonna hear me say this again. 719 01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:20.000 The comic, the, the comic book came out before. 720 01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:21.000 No, it came out one year later. 721 01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:29.000 One year later. Okay. Yeah. So it was, it was real. 722 01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:32.000 Yeah. Even closer than I thought it was. 723 01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:36.000 So. But I mean, I. 724 01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:37.000 That's. 725 01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:40.000 Yeah, 726 01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:54.000 well, I mean, I had that. We know that the author of the Walking Dead is the classic as a classy human, so very. I know you're a big fan of his. No, even the Walking Dead's a really good story. 727 01:15:54.000 --> 01:16:12.000 It, you know, it might be. I mean, I, I've, I've. That's the thing is like, I, I read a little bit of it, I watched a little bit of it. I, I write stuff that is in vain, but I'm more of a Romero fan, so. Hence you'll see more Romero references in Junior Braves than you'll ever see Walking Dead. 728 01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:18.000 Yeah, but, but Kirkman and Romero, as far as how they approach zombies, is very similar. 729 01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:24.000 Well, yeah, because when, when you choose something that works well. 730 01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:43.000 But I think, I mean, I, I'm okay with some attacks on Robert Kirkman's like, attitude and demeanor and things like that, but what I will say is, though, I mean, when you start looking at zombie movies, there's basically. I mean, this. We were just talking about. There's two classifications. There's fast and slow. I mean, what else do you do? 731

01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:53.000 The way that society come up with something original, a situation occurs and how people act or don't act. Yeah, you're not wrong, because that's what 732 01:16:53.000 --> 01:17:03.000 Romero is doing through the three stories, the original three. When it happens, what happens in the middle, and then what happens after the zombies have overrun the earth? And then what do you do then? 733 01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:33.000 I think it's interesting though, because, like, when you, when you, if you start watching the first season of the show, even if you're reading the book too, it all happens so quickly, without explanation, and it's hard to believe that something would happen so quickly. But then again it's like, okay, I guess it's. You have to suspend disbelief. I think you get a better understanding. They play it out better in the spinoff series. 734 01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:38.000 See, I didn't watch the spin off. I quit watching, I guess what season five or six. 735 01:17:38.000 --> 01:18:24.000 I watched the first couple episodes of the spin off series because I wanted to see what the, what the take was on it and as to how things worked or whatever. Because they took it from ground ground zero essentially. And it made more sense as to like, okay, cool. That's, that's actually in my mind how things would play out in a sense, you know, as a. From a writing perspective and from a person you study could task for humans. It's like, okay, that's how you would, that's how you would work a situation. I mean, we've seen it with Kachina, we've seen it with other, other situations and that's kind of how you would try to mitigate things like that. 736 01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:38.000 I think when you do it, the way they did it though is like with slow zombies versus fast zombies. Right. Like where the fast zombies, you have to learn about what happened, otherwise you're going to die really quickly. 737 01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:39.000 Yeah. 738 01:18:39.000 --> 01:18:54.000 With slow zombies you can slowly. That's part of the thing. You can slowly learn about what happened, but you don't. So you don't have to. So starting it, starting Walking Dead the way they did allowed them to just ignore how it all started, Right? 739 01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:55.000 Yeah. 740 01:18:54.000 --> 01:19:31.000 Because he's not going to know and then he's going to start interacting with people who do and he's going to be filled in and, or, you know, you're already going to have some societal structures rebuilt. It's. I, you know, again, I know you don't like Kirkman walking Dead from start to finish the comic and ending it. There's where I'll have respect for him as a writer. He ended the story. He didn't try to keep going forever. But the, but the, the TV series lost my interest. 741 01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:34.000 You keep running into the same situation over and over again. 742 01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:35.000 Yeah. For the series. 743 01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:46.000 And it's, it's like, okay, how many times can you have the same situation occur where people just don't learn from their prior experience? 744 01:19:46.000 --> 01:20:27.000 But I will say in, in the. I know it makes it into the TV series and I never got there, but the skinwalkers thing in the comic was one. Both terrifying but also just like, I did feel like he was able to come up with these different. Like, how would people react? Like and some of them were like, well, the zombies have won, so we better adapt to the zombies. Was very interesting because you talk about with zombies, how do you come up with different takes on how do you, how do you, I guess, you know, we've extended the podcast now talking about zombies. But how do you, how do you come up with a new way to tell a zombie story? 745 01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:28.000 Yeah. 746 01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:38.000 And a new way to tell a zombie story is have the people become. Just say they won't and then figure out how to assimilate in. 747 01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:40.000 Live within that. Well, I mean, yeah, I mean that's 748 01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:43.000 like, I don't mean live within, literally live with. 749 01:20:43.000 --> 01:21:05.000 Yeah, that's like a very quizzling type thing. But I, I would say Max Brother does a better job in Last Kids on Earth in a children's book doing the same thing for the kids. Trying to maneuver through a land of zombies and monsters. Doing exactly that. 750 01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:06.000 Yeah. 751 01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:08.000 But I mean, that's just my take. And who cares? 752 01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:10.000 What, you haven't read all of Walking Dead though. 753 01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:12.000 I, I've read enough. 754 01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:15.000 You didn't read to the part I'm talking about, though. 755 01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:33.000 I know what you're talking about. That's the thing. Like I, I know, I, I, I've read enough bits and pieces to, to know what you're talking about. Where they've done that. They're the skinwalkers who basically wear the zombie skin. 756 01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:34.000 Yeah. 757 01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:42.000 And they're in the horde, surviving. 758 01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:50.000 Well. And while I'm praising all this, the worst thing they did was then end the story and then relaunch it in color from issue one. 759 01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:52.000 That's what comics do. 760 01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:56.000 You. Yeah. I hated that Junior braced. 761 01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:58.000 Just joking. 762 01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:17.000 I know that was just a cash grab, but. Yeah. Anyway, this moment about zombies was brought to you by. I don't know. Zombies. So Dan, talking about going to Friday Night Frights. 763 01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:18.000 Yeah. 764 01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:27.000 And I mean, we both love zombie stuff, so Greg more than me because he's the one that writes a book where they're mutants because they're not really zombies. 765

01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:33.000 That's right. Good job. They're mutants, not zombies because. 766 01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:36.000 And we don't know how they've gotten that way yet. 767 01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:38.000 And you might never know. 768 01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:41.000 We might never know because we're never going to have another book. 769 01:22:41.000 --> 01:24:03.000 We're going to get another book. And you know what I'm going to say. And you know what's crazy? Okay. Honestly. So Comic Stromas over here. I, I had written a whole entire thing about how, how the, the meeting outbreak happened. And our original editor was like, that that's totally far fetched. There's no way that there's going to be some sort of. There's. There's never going to be some sort of worldwide epidemic going. Going on where people are. There's going to be really some pharmaceutical companies going to need to send out all of these vaccines and vaccination kits to people so they can vaccinate people. And that's going to. There's going to be ill effects and that's going to cause mutations in people. And you know, like, that's far fetched. And I'm like, well, that is far fetched, but that's. That's what that. You know, like, it's not too far fetched to believe that there could be something that would cause something like that to the point where there's a need for something. And you know, that's the. That's the jumping point, right? That's. That's how you get from point A to point B. Wait, so your Q? Yeah. Some Q this whole time. 770 01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:05.000 Holy. 771 01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:06.000 I know. 772 01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:07.000 And I don't mean Q from Star Trek. 773 01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:11.000 Oh, I'm not Q from Star Trek. Q who? 774 01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:14.000 No, I meant from QAnon. 775 01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:28.000 Oh, God. I mean, Dan, no. Birds are not real. You can't see the tinfoil under my hat. 776 01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:31.000 Well, I think on that note. Oh, sorry. Finish your thought. 777 01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:38.000 Oh, no, I was just gonna say. And yeah, so. So we checked that part out, but it's going back in. Damn it. 778 01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:42.000 Yeah, it's. That definitely didn't come true. 779 01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:44.000 So none of it. 780 01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:52.000 Well, we should probably wrap this one up. I think we've. I didn't. Oh, I did forget to plug something. 781 01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:55.000 What was that? 782 01:24:55.000 --> 01:24:59.000 I don't know. I don't even know anymore. He forgot to. Skyborg. 783 01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:07.000 Sky falling. Alex reign brings the pain from the sky. It's insane. 784 01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:17.000 It's raining Overcast Overcast comics go there. Learn more about Alex Rain and the future of Nemesis. And you can also follow it on 785 01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:20.000 Kickstarter and you can back the cyborg movie. 786 01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:24.000 Yeah, you do that too. That's not on Kickstarter yet, though. 787 01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:28.000 Well, you can follow along and Travis will post about it. 788 01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:39.000 There's all sorts of things happening and you should go check it out because if you are into Albert Pune, then be as excited as Travis Bundy was gonna be. 789 01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:41.000 Yeah, it's gonna be pretty cool. 790 01:25:41.000 --> 01:26:02.000 All right, so that's it. We should wrap this up, but thank you. I hope you enjoyed our foray into absolute Batman number three, our side journey into zombies, and honestly too, let us know if you agree or disagree with us about the zombie and if you are a zombie fan or a zombie creator, we'd love to have you on. Come on and we'll talk about your zombie book. 791 01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:13.000 Yeah. And if you, if you. I was going to say, if you also like to hear Dan put posters into frames, let us know. 792 01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:47.000 Oh, join us. Yeah, let us know. I mean, it's just like putting on makeup and doing the podcast. Oh, and Tony Fleeks, Heck, I'll call you out. You're never going to come on our podcast. You've never heard of our podcast. But if you want to come on here and tell us whether the animals have a rage virus or they're actually zombies in feral, we'll have that discussion. I would love to have that discussion. That would be fantastic. One of my favorite books. I've never met Tony Fleeks. I barely follow him on social. I follow them on socials. But you know what? Reed Ferrell, it's fantastic. All right. That's it. That's my message. 793 01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:53.000 It.