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Speaker 1: The Frames Per Second Podcast. Welcome everybody to a new episode of the Frames Per Second Podcast. Kenneth B. Inch here with the crew. We got Rod, we got Spike, we got Mike.
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Speaker 2: What up y'all?
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Speaker 1: What's good bro? Chillin', chillin'. We're here man to discuss the new Godzilla movie. Godzilla minus zero.
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Speaker 3: Um....
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Speaker 2: And it dropped over the weekend.
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Speaker 1: And it's the sequel to the first one, Godzilla Minus One. And we reviewed that one, correct? Yes. I feel like we did, yeah. I know I watched it, yeah. Patreons?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, for Patreon.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, so if you want to hear our thoughts on that, then go to Patreon. The review's up there. But Let's get into this one, man. We're going to start out, of course, around the room, get everybody's thoughts on the movie, and then we'll get into discussing some details of what we watched.
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Speaker 2: Rod, what did you think of this movie?
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Speaker 1: Man, I thought this was good, man. I thought it was really good.
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Speaker 4: The first one was good, too, but they're both good for their own reasons, but I feel like they really honed in what they captured the first time I honestly didn't know this was like the sequel to it.
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Speaker 1: Like a direct sequel? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I hadn't been seeing it.
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Speaker 4: I don't remember seeing any trailers or anything like that.
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Speaker 1: Did we watch a trailer for one of the reactions?
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Speaker 2: He always be leaving late.
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Speaker 1: Early, you mean?
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Speaker 2: That's what I meant. I'm glad you corrected it to make it sound worse. Get your insult right.
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Speaker 1: If you're going to talk shit, talk shit right. Yeah, it was one of.
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Speaker 2: The trailer reaction videos.
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Speaker 1: I guess you weren't here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
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Speaker 1: Cool, yeah.
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Speaker 4: But it looked the same. The advertisement looked the same. So I assumed maybe this is the sequel. So at first I had to try to figure it out.
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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I think this is it. It feels the same. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: But no, they're doing it.
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Speaker 1: I don't know who.
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Speaker 2: All the people involved but they're doing a really good job.
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Speaker 4: With this uh with this series or franchise or whatever man um i enjoyed this a lot especially not liking subtitles and stuff all right so yes this is the 39th film in the godzilla franchise um and the 34th film produced by toho And the Sith installment in the Reiwa era.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what any of that means, but that's what we got here.
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Speaker 3: To answer your question, it's the same director, if that's what you were trying to look for from the last movie.
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Speaker 1: So what is he saying
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now then?
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Speaker 2: Because there's different eras of Godzilla.
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Speaker 1: I know that, but not this guy though. No.
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Speaker 3: This is just the second Godzilla film.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay. I didn't hear that part. Yeah, I was just trying to pick up where we started off to get the show back flowing and get back into a rhythm.
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Speaker 2: Mike, what did you think of this movie? Amazing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, again, second movie from the director, Takashi Yamazaki, and he is absolutely killing it. He does such a good job with the human element and the monster element and putting them both together. and making it to where you're not bored with either one. But, no, I think this was an excellent follow-up to the last one.
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Speaker 2: It definitely continued the momentum of the first one.
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Speaker 5: Spike, you were on the review, right, for the Godzilla. I don't remember seeing the last one, but I'm not sure. I won't say that.
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Speaker 1: It was a while ago. I thought it was.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't that long ago. It was recorded here. Yeah, it wasn't that long ago.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, y'all.
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Speaker 3: Because I hosted it. I remember, and we broke it down. Shit, was I on it then? Because I don't... I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. I do not remember. I remember watching it.
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Speaker 4: Because I remember falling asleep.
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Speaker 1: I kept falling asleep on it.
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Speaker 2: I could have sworn he was on it because I don't remember him liking it very much.
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Speaker 1: But do you like this one?
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Speaker 5: I didn't hate this. It wasn't... I wouldn't want to go see it on my own or anything. But when I got there, I didn't know what to expect because I couldn't remember the last one, like you said.
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Speaker 1: But, yeah, I didn't.
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Speaker 2: I wasn't sitting there like, damn, I'm mad I'm watching this. It was entertaining.
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Speaker 5: I thought, like Mike said, the monster element, but also switching back and forth to the human element, I thought was great. There was some funny scenes in there as far as, Like, what would happen if you did see, like, just this monster that you didn't know what the fuck it was, and you had just little video clips of it. I thought that was really good. So, yeah, I wasn't not entertained at all.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I enjoyed this. I enjoyed this. Yeah, I think it definitely did a good job of kind of picking up where we left off. So, and it was, like, two hours and some change, maybe two hours, 15 minutes, which... you know, was fine.
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Speaker 2: I think I was concerned, like, how do you fill that space?
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Speaker 1: You know, because typically these movies, you know, the monster in older movies tend to show up at the end. And so, yeah, so I thought this was, so I was just kind of curious to see how they would do that, especially since the first one was pretty much like that.
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Speaker 2: But they didn't do that. We got action off rip.
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Speaker 1: With, you know, Ghidorah showing up and ravaging a town and scientists are running away and, you know, trying to escape and get from them and Ghidorah looking right at him and decided, y'all not worth my time. It just flew off. Did this sort of start of the movie, did that sort of, catch you guys off guard? Did you guys like kind of starting with the monster like right away and then kind of getting like a background and history of how we got to where we were?
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Speaker 4: I did, personally. Like, it really set it off like, oh shit, like you in for a ride. Like, and the stakes are high, right? Like, it really established that early on and I'm really big on that with the, I guess you could say villain or Big Boss being damn near unstoppable, I think that makes a strong story to try to figure out, okay, how are they going to beat this thing?
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, I really like how they started this off. Same.
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Speaker 5: I like being dropped right into the world. I was dreading that they would do this big buildup for it because Jalen just said I was on the last one, but I don't remember it. So I didn't want a big buildup to where we were going. So right there in the middle of it, that was dope.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
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Speaker 3: I think it's a good idea to go ahead and kick it off with action at first and then take us back a little bit and catch up with everyone from the first film. But yeah, they did a good job with dropping us in with Ghidorah. And since y'all are rap fans, I'll give y'all a little trivia.
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Speaker 2: What rapper named himself after the villain in this movie?
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Speaker 1: Ghidorah? Mm-hmm. Ghidorah? I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Is the rapper named Ghidorah?
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Speaker 1: I don't know, dog.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's a goddamn shame.
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Speaker 1: Doom. Did you just Google it? No. I didn't even touch my computer. There you go.
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Speaker 4: Wait, I don't follow. You don't follow what he said, Doom? I do follow them saying Doom, but I don't follow.
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Speaker 2: He has a whole album called King Ghidorah. That was one of his aliases. Oh, okay. So this isn't the first time that Monster's been in the series. No, this was.
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Speaker 1: From the original, like.
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Speaker 3: The black and white joints. He didn't look this cool, though, but he's been around.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of the monsters didn't look this cool.
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Speaker 2: They probably looked cooler than him at the time. Yeah, back then they were just people in suits going like this.
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Speaker 1: With camera tricks.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, with terrible camera tricks.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, no, it was a little bit abrupt. Um,
but I, I, I did like it at the end of the day. Cause I was like, wait a minute. What, what did I miss? You know?
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Speaker 2: Uh, but it, it worked out. It worked out.
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Speaker 1: Um, and it did a good job of kind of introducing. That's when we meet the professor and we didn't know he was going to play a role for the rest of the movie. Um, but then we get to the rest of the crew. Two years later, we got coachy, the Rico and a Kiko. Those were the three from the last movie. Kochi Shimakazen was the pilot. And... Shikishima. Shikishima. Goddamn. Who got the keys to my Beamer? Fucking dumbass. Oh, my God, bro. Oh, God.
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Speaker 2: Y'all can turn it off.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, right?
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Speaker 2: No, they laughing too.
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Speaker 1: Don't lie. Don't turn it off, y'all. Stay with us. But, yeah, so coaching Noriko and Akiko. Noriko, Spike, Rob, you remember the first one, right? She had the G-sails, what they call the G-sails. Yeah, she was a survivor from the last one. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so since you kind of not remember it, but at the end of the movie, we saw, like, she had the.
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Speaker 2: Things on the back of her neck yeah I didn't remember that but yeah.
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Speaker 3: Okay yeah that was the very very end but I don't think we knew what they were I thought I thought they were like in a killer because I thought it was stuff from the um the radiation.
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Speaker 5: Oh I thought we talked about it possibly being Godzilla cells if we did I don't remember that because I don't remember thinking I don't think I knew that that could happen I don't think I knew that Godzilla cells can get up in you and make you change Right.
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Speaker 4: You may not have known, but after they showed it, I think we probably were like, oh, shit, that's probably what that is.
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Speaker 1: I think there was a discussion about her. We were discussing the ending, whether it was a happy ending or that she was going to die.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And stuff like that, or maybe. And I remember us saying we thought she was going to die.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Because he was all happy that he found her, but then the stuff was creeping up her neck, so she was going to die.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Well, either way. But yeah, but right now she's having an orphanage, and two years have passed since the events of Minus One. She got an eye patch on her eye. Which kind of, I was like, wait a minute. Did her eye get messed up in the last one? I don't know why she was wearing an eye patch. It was? Yeah, she had an eye patch at the end. Okay, okay.
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Speaker 2: I couldn't remember.
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Speaker 4: Because I was like, how the hell did she survive that last one? Did she fall off a fucking train or some shit?
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Speaker 2: No, no, no.
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Speaker 3: You're thinking of the scene where Godzilla was tearing the train apart. She was dangling and shit. Later on, she pushed Shikishima out of the way and then was thrown back by a blast.
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Speaker 2: So we assume that she was dead.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: She had an eye patch at the end of the movie. So we've got a Kiko.
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Speaker 1: She's staying on, uh, waiting on the playground slot for her father or adoptive father to show up. He gets there and they kind of walk in together. Everybody's kind of doing this whole family thing. Um, but they also talk about the new giant creature that appeared, uh, in, in Japan. The Kiko was like, Oh my God, there's something scary coming. They're like, nah, we good. We'll do whatever we can to protect you. What's left is right.
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Speaker 5: The scene where they showed them the new, the monster, when they had the videotape, I wish they had a black voiceover. Like, they had black people reactions instead of him. I think that would have been funny as hell.
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Speaker 2: It was like, oh.
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Speaker 1: Hell no. Hell no.
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Speaker 2: I feel like I had that thought, too. What the fuck was that? Right. Oh, hell no.
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Speaker 1: What the hell?
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Speaker 2: Big-ass goddamn, big-ass lizard, big-ass flying lizard.
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Speaker 1: Hell no.
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Speaker 2: Man, I just wish they had black people reactions. Where the hell Khaleesi at, Nick? Yeah, because their response is, well, it's funny still.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're talking about, like, after that is when they kind of start investigating. Oh, Jesus Christ.
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Speaker 3: Just keep moving, Ken. Just keep going. Act like that didn't happen. That's how you explain it.
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Speaker 1: Man, stop. Like, Mario Brothers. Oh, my God.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about?
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Speaker 1: Oh, no. That's Mario.
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Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
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Speaker 1: So we're reintroduced to this family. They have adopted the kid. What did you guys think about the family dynamic? Did you like that, Rod?
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Speaker 2: It was okay, yeah.
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Speaker 1: I'm with Mike.
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Speaker 4: They do a good job of world building, character building, the human aspect, the monster aspect.
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Speaker 1: They make you care about it a little bit. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: Because she was introduced in the last one, too, the adopted girl. Yeah, that's how they all got together. She had found the baby or whatever. Got you. And now the two of them are married. I think at that point I was like, okay, yeah, that's the same world or whatever.
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Speaker 4: Because I still wasn't 100% sure when I seen old girl with the eye patch.
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Speaker 2: I was like, I think that's her.
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Speaker 4: So, yeah, at that point I was like, okay, yeah, this is absolutely the same world after the Godzilla attack. So, yeah, no, I like it. I like how it tied everything together. And like I said, it also.
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Speaker 1: Kind
of pulls you away from all the monster rah-rah-rah stuff and the tech stuff and all that.
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Speaker 2: It's just another element that they add.
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Speaker 1: It kind of, you know, I think somewhat instrumental for the movie, especially as we get, you know, For where we ended up, I think, you know, what they were doing and establishing this stuff in the beginning of the movie actually ended up playing a part later on. Did you guys kind of feel the same way? Not discussing the end of the movie, but just kind of like the relevancy of like them introducing them and the dynamic of just showing the closeness of the relationship. Her standing on the slide, waiting for him to come back. Her working in the orphanage, the orphanage playing a role later on. Did you guys think that this part and other parts later kind of helped set up a lot of parts of the movie?
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Speaker 5: I think it worked when she seen them later and then her immediate reaction was negative even though they told her everything was okay. So I think building up to that, yeah, it did work.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: All right. Yeah, I like them together.
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Speaker 3: I'm still a little fuzzy because they're married, but they don't seem like a married couple.
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Speaker 2: Are they married?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're married.
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Speaker 3: We know he loves her, but I don't think we've seen them kiss one single time. So I'm not really sure what the message is they're going for with this whole thing.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I assume it's not supposed to be like a platonic love. So I'm not really sure what they're doing with these two characters, but I still like them together.
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Speaker 2: And the fact that my boy is like... Well, we'll get to that later.
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Speaker 1: But yeah. And I like how....
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Speaker 2: Obsessed with them Akiko is.
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Speaker 3: Because even as a baby, I imagine she has this, like, latent thing about being abandoned. So she doesn't leave that slide. She doesn't even want to play with the other kids. All she wants to do is wait for her parents to come back and get her. Or her dad, really, because mom is there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: For some reason, she's a daddy's girl. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and this was the time, and I'm, you know, we can assume that he arrives his time at the same time every day. So, and she just goes... To her spot. Yeah, it paid off later. I was concerned how much time we were going to spend with them because we come back to this later on in the movie when Hoda-san, Noda-san, that's what they call him. Who is that? The doctor.
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Speaker 2: Which, oh, Noda.
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Speaker 1: Is it Noda? I thought it was N-O-D-A. Oh, Noda.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the san is. Is that like Sir?
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Because they say it so fast. It's the only one I can kind
of pick up. So I didn't know the sign so much. I just called it that. Kosha, Shikishima. I don't know. I can't say that one. But anyway, now you're talking about the part where I had to protect y'all. The scientists have investigated the new creature and that's when the thing come out and later on we found out it kind of It assumes parts of the things that it basically consumes, the genetic material, which allows it to evolve. And they just combined the Chimera and Hydra?
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Speaker 2: Hydra and.
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Speaker 1: Chimera, right? C-H-I-M-E-R... Chimera? I don't think that's what they said. And that's how they came up with Godora, which I.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember they said all of that.
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Speaker 2: They did, but I didn't think it was Chimera. I thought it was something else.
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Speaker 1: I'll look.
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Speaker 2: I'm probably wrong.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's how they came up with the name Ghidorah. And they just talked about all the different things that it can do. It can unleash golden energy beams similar to Godzilla's atomic breath. And after the attack in the first part of the movie, it's basically dormant now. And most of the film is basically, of course, them trying to destroy it. Why they didn't leave this thing alone while it was asleep, I have no idea. But.
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Speaker 2: I thought because it was going to wake back up and fuck.
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Speaker 1: Them up again. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It made sense for them to try to get rid of it.
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Speaker 2: It did. I don't know. Why would you.
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Speaker 3: I mean, the only time you can attack it is when it's asleep. If it's alive, I mean, awake, you're fucked.
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Speaker 2: I think they would have learned the lesson from Godzilla.
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Speaker 3: Hmm.
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Speaker 1: But, however, I know I take that back now that I think about it, because....
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Speaker 2: No, y'all are right. I... I think.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I got it now. I just thought about this with something that happened later on.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: All right. And we'll get there. But anyway, what did you guys think about... Did you like the biological explanation of Ghidorah and kind of how his makeup made sense when you saw it? That it just borrows from all these creatures? And apparently it came from space. It's a meteor, so it's... I know they said that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Um....
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure if I caught that part. It took from all of these different things. It just looked like a couple different things.
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Speaker 1: It looked like it absorbed part of a snake.
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Speaker 2: And then it ate a bird.
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Speaker 1: It ate a bird.
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Speaker 2: Oh, man.
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Speaker 1: I did.
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Speaker 2: You know what? Wow.
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Speaker 4: I didn't even put that shit together when it took down that bird. I didn't even put that together.
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Speaker 2: Really? Damn.
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Speaker 4: I can admit that. Damn, that's dope, though. I did not even think about it. So I remember when it took down a bird.
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Speaker 1: And what else? It said like an octopus or some shit like that, right? Like tentacles, something with tentacles. It looked like something was floating. It looked like it was a damn butterfly or something. But I couldn't tell.
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Speaker 2: It did eat butterflies. You were right, Ken. It was chimera.
00:20:19
Speaker 1: Okay. You were right. You said it was a butterfly?
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Speaker 2: I think it was eating a couple of butterflies, I thought.
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Speaker 1: Wasn't it?
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Speaker 3: It definitely ate of something that was flying. It looked like it, but the footage was weird. I thought it was a bird.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: It definitely ate something that was flying.
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Speaker 1: Goddamn. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Um.
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Speaker 1: But no, I thought that was cool. I think the explanation makes sense. It's a space creature. It comes down from Earth. It hits a meteor, some ectoplasm, whatever it was, just absorbing these different elements from Earth and evolving into this sort of indestructible creature.
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Speaker 2: Godzilla, I don't know.
00:20:57
Speaker 1: Do we know Godzilla's origins?
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Speaker 3: Not from the last movie. I'm not an expert in Godzilla because I don't really care for those old movies.
00:21:06
Speaker 1: Hmm.
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Speaker 2: All I know is it feeds off of radiation and shit.
00:21:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just thought about that. We got an explanation for Ghidorah, but not for... Okay, well, anyway. We may have.
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Speaker 2: I just don't remember. They probably said something. Where it came from.
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Speaker 4: Because I can't imagine them saying where this one came from, but not Godzilla.
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Speaker 2: There's another scientist that plays a part.
00:22:13
Speaker 1: Ayama? Yeah, that's close.
00:22:17
Speaker 2: I think it's just Ayama.
00:22:19
Speaker 1: Ayama?
00:22:19
Speaker 2: You talking about the woman?
00:22:20
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:22:20
Speaker 2: That could predict your weather? The weather chick. Yeah, Storm. Asian Storm. Yeah, Storm.
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Speaker 1: So she came up with the plan B to kill the creature using the weather. This was after they met with the
Americans. And I still don't really quite understand outside of the Americans just doing American shit about trying to capture Godzilla. Like, the whole relationship with that. Did anybody kind of pick up what they were doing with this?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's during, so it's right after World War II. So you can assume, the Cold War was after World War II, right?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So you could assume they're just trying to get some kind of weapon to take out Russia. Or what would be the USSR.
00:23:07
Speaker 2: At the time. Which they did name drop the Soviet.
00:23:10
Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: So I think that's what they're trying to do. They're trying to figure out a way to either control Godzilla or make their own version of Godzilla.
00:23:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were trying to use the Japanese to do it. And, of course, they're researching all the other stuff. And they were lending them weapons, but they lent them some experimental or something that wasn't quite good.
00:23:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were trying to use the Japanese as test subjects.
00:23:33
Speaker 3: Like, let them go in there and figure out what this thing is, and then we'll just take all the data when they're done.
00:23:38
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Which sounds like some American shit.
00:23:40
Speaker 1: Exactly. Skyriders, a Shenson, which I think is the gas fuel bomb, and an aircraft that was requisitioned for testing.
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Speaker 5: And, yeah, it was just to help neutralize Ghidorah. And that's why they saw them painting the circle on the plane.
00:24:00
Speaker 2: That was crazy.
00:24:01
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was.
00:24:03
Speaker 2: That's pretty obvious, huh? And you're doing it right in my face, too.
00:24:06
Speaker 1: That's crazy. What are you?
00:24:08
Speaker 2: You know, American arrogance, you know?
00:24:10
Speaker 1: Yeah. But that's when, once they met with them, and then the Americans said they pulled out their folder and handed it to them, and, you know, and that was that part. Then that's when she said, we're going to just, I got a plan. They never really explained the plans in the movie. They just, we just kind of see the plans, and we have to fill in the gaps. Mm-hmm. It kind of, it was... It was throwing me off because I'm so used to movies just kind of telling you what the fuck they're going to do and then go show you what they said they were going to do. Did this kind of disorient the word that come to mind? Or did you just kind of like fill in the gaps?
00:24:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just fill it in.
00:24:53
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:24:53
Speaker 2: I didn't need all the extra context.
00:24:57
Speaker 4: And then also, it's subtitled and stuff, so I just.
00:25:03
Speaker 1: I didn't need it. Just show me the visuals, and I'll put everything else together. But Marcus Pike, y'all know what I'm talking about. Like, they'll just be like, hey, I got a plan. And then we'll get a whole scene of them saying, hey, we're going to use the lighting in this.
00:25:16
Speaker 2: We're going to use this, and then we're going to do that.
00:25:18
Speaker 5: I feel like that they did because the subtitles dumb it down and not do that, and that you just see it visually.
00:25:24
Speaker 2: Because they didn't want to explain all of this.
00:25:25
Speaker 1: They didn't write it on the screen. What? I do.
00:25:29
Speaker 5: I feel like they just, like, let you figure it out. But I didn't hate it, though. I wasn't disoriented at all. Also, I liked the part where they had the pilots that they selected to fly.
00:25:39
Speaker 2: With the plane. I think it's right there. They didn't know what they was getting into. But that's kind of the part I'm talking about.
00:25:45
Speaker 1: Like, normally in those scenes, you would get kind of, like, the explanation, right? So they go there, and after the plane, they go meet the pilots, which is what you're talking about. And it was like, I thought it was going to be more than that. And the pilots didn't even realize what they was there for. Right. Which is kind of what you were saying. The Japanese have their own form of fucked up government, too. And then they came back and most of the other ones that agreed to do it for the money, they did.
00:26:13
Speaker 2: He said, I thought this was an easy trip.
00:26:20
Speaker 1: But yeah, in those scenes, Mike, is typically when they kind of lay out the whole plan on a whiteboard and tell us. But we kind of just, as we get into the plan itself, the execution of the plan, kind of watch it and kind of fill in, you know, those gaps.
00:26:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a better way of storytelling to me. Okay.
00:26:38
Speaker 3: You know, I don't need the whole whiteboard. And then they start talking in big terms. And they're like, I don't even know what the fuck y'all are talking about. And it's not going to make sense until y'all actually do it anyway. I think this was a better way of just being like, all right, well, here's this weather lady and she says she has plan B. We don't need to hear all the details of the plan because they did explain it later. They did say what was happening. But when it starts happening, the whole fun of it is you're like, what are they doing? What are those big spear things? Why are they trying to find a storm cloud? What is the deal here? But when they explain it later, after we've seen what they're doing, I just think it's dope. I just think it's a really, really cool way of storytelling.
00:27:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got on board when you're trying to do an outline.
00:27:25
Speaker 1: It's just like, well, shit, what are they going to do? Because you hear it, but like, okay, nah, this is the plan. You can kind of write something. But no, like when you actually see it in action, we're going to use a lightning strike against Ghidorah. And I'm going to use my ability to predict the weather.
00:27:42
Speaker 2: To do it.
00:27:42
Speaker 1: Now, she was successful the first time she did it. I don't think she knew about that. When she predicted the typhoon, when they first kind of told us about it in the beginning of the movie, I kind of skipped over that part. But, you know, about, oh, yeah, because he basically kind of pushed her to the side. Oh, yeah, I don't, you know, you can go talk to those other people. I don't really need you on this plan, on this kind of department that I'm in. But she was able to predict, I think it was a typhoon. But the government didn't let them know. And to her, it seemed like she failed, if I'm remembering that correctly. And in this part, she's having doubts. And she's talking to Noda? Hoda? Noda?
00:28:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, about it.
00:28:27
Speaker 1: And, you know, he's talking about, like, his doubts and everything that he experienced in the first movie as well. So they're kind of bonding over that moment. And then we kind of see that Shikazima, Kosher, has to actually go on the plane because.
00:28:38
Speaker 2: All the pilots dipped out.
00:28:39
Speaker 1: So what did you guys think about just this whole scene just in general from the Nakaruma scene? Nakaruma Rod, which is basically a lightning rod. The pilot's dropping a bomb on them. That shit not working. And Ghidorah flying through them and chasing them. Because remember, in the other part, he said, oh, we just got to fly like a leaf. He said, fuck you like a leaf.
00:29:04
Speaker 2: I don't know how to do that shit.
00:29:05
Speaker 5: You don't even want to know how to do that shit.
00:29:09
Speaker 2: That was funny. Yeah.
00:29:14
Speaker 1: That was funny.
00:29:15
Speaker 2: No, that's a good sequence of events right here.
00:29:20
Speaker 4: I know that shit was aggravating the hell out of me when they couldn't get that damn rod on the fucking thing. Yeah, that shit was intense. But before that, when they tried to drop the bomb, I was like, them motherfuckers just missed. Because I was thinking they were trying to put it right on him. I didn't know they were trying to just put it in the vicinity.
00:29:35
Speaker 1: I thought they were trying to drop it right on him, too. They were.
00:29:37
Speaker 2: They missed.
00:29:38
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's why he had to go back. and detonate it. Well, I thought... No, no, no.
00:29:41
Speaker 4: See, that's what I'm saying. Like, I thought they just wanted to... I thought it just didn't detonate. I thought it just needed to detonate in the area. I don't think it needed to drop right on it. It probably would have been more powerful if it dropped right on it. But I think they were fine with it just exploding in the area where it was.
00:29:58
Speaker 1: I think I thought it was.
00:30:00
Speaker 3: only gonna detonate if it hit him but yeah your your your explanation makes more.
00:30:03
Speaker 4: Sense it it and i thought about it in real time because like i'm like why do they put the emphasis on the fact that it just landed like
next to him i'm like was it supposed to hit it but then he was just like oh i just didn't detonate i was like okay okay maybe it.
00:30:16
Speaker 1: Was just supposed to detonate and that's the bomb they got from the americans.
00:30:21
Speaker 4: Yes yeah but that shit did work though like when they detonate that shit that shit It exploded, but Gador.
00:30:29
Speaker 2: Honestly, it didn't work.
00:30:30
Speaker 1: She was like, what the fuck is this shit?
00:30:33
Speaker 2: Y'all dropping shit on me now?
00:30:34
Speaker 1: What the fuck? I was sleeping. Right. Some bullshit.
00:30:37
Speaker 2: That's the last thing you do. Wake up some, man.
00:30:39
Speaker 1: Y'all know how angry y'all get when somebody wake y'all up from sleep? It's good, too.
00:30:43
Speaker 4: Man, Gador was on they ass. Boy, I was just like, man, she was on they ass. I was just like, oh, my God. And this part was intense, too. Like, The music that they put behind this, man, just this movie in general, it really elevates the movie. But no, man, all of this was really, really done well. Just the flight, them trying to dodge it, the intensity of it. Like I said, when they tried to put the rod on her or whatever. Like, yeah, all of that was so good. Why you calling it her? I don't know why I called it her. Ghidorah sounds like a girl to me.
00:31:21
Speaker 1: You misgendering a monster.
00:31:24
Speaker 2: It sounds like a... Ghidorah don't sound like a girl?
00:31:27
Speaker 3: No.
00:31:27
Speaker 1: Ghidorah? Not to me. It sounds like a girl to me. I'd never thought about it until you said she.
00:31:33
Speaker 2: Because it's King Ghidorah.
00:31:35
Speaker 1: Well, that's what.
00:31:35
Speaker 3: So I assume... Yeah, it is King Ghidorah. That'd be weird if it was Queen Ghidorah.
00:31:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
00:31:40
Speaker 2: Anyway, it don't matter. It doesn't matter. I'm sure the monster got offended.
00:31:44
Speaker 1: Isn't it? Hey, yeah.
00:31:46
Speaker 2: After the blue wave, bro.
00:31:48
Speaker 1: We ain't doing no more of this shit, right? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
00:31:52
Speaker 2: We in this new woke century, boy. You better get right.
00:31:55
Speaker 1: You know what they're going to say to Mike?
00:31:56
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? You over here fucking around.
00:31:58
Speaker 1: Right, right.
00:31:58
Speaker 2: They're going to say, so women can't be kings, Mike?
00:32:01
Speaker 1: Right. You're right, Spike.
00:32:02
Speaker 2: You know what?
00:32:03
Speaker 1: You're right. You're right. You're right.
00:32:06
Speaker 2: God is a sheep, bro. That's right.
00:32:10
Speaker 1: But nah, yeah. Nah, all of this shit was good, man. I really, really enjoyed this. They did a really good job with this.
00:32:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, the flight scene was good, man.
00:32:20
Speaker 5: I didn't think they were going to be successful with that spear shit, whatever they
was trying to do. I enjoyed the plane scene when Boyd thought he got out when he hit the ejection.
00:32:30
Speaker 1: I knew that was coming.
00:32:34
Speaker 2: It was real good because you knew it was coming and it still worked. So all of this shit worked.
00:32:38
Speaker 1: He thought he had made it out. Nah, dog.
00:32:41
Speaker 2: I got you. So yeah, all of that was real good. I agree.
00:32:46
Speaker 3: This was the moment in the movie where I was like, okay, yeah, this is definitely, they're killing it as far as a sequel because this is, it killed the first two people and then Shikishima was still flying and this is when It had that blue shit where it was picking.
00:33:03
Speaker 1: Right?
00:33:03
Speaker 2: Isn't it this part?
00:33:04
Speaker 1: Or is that later? Not yet. It was later.
00:33:07
Speaker 2: That was later?
00:33:07
Speaker 1: We ain't gotten it. This is when it changed to King Ghidorah after this. Right now, it's just the golden being, and Shikishima's just flying.
00:33:16
Speaker 2: Right, right.
00:33:18
Speaker 3: But, okay, so they dropped the rod in it, and it actually went down, and you thought, well, they thought it was dead.
00:33:23
Speaker 1: Yep.
00:33:23
Speaker 2: And then it morphed.
00:33:24
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:33:25
Speaker 2: And isn't this when it.
00:33:26
Speaker 1: Started picking up? That's when, yeah. Well, yeah, yeah. I thought you were talking about the whole. Let's do it. Go ahead. No, no, no. Let's do it. No, we're good.
00:33:33
Speaker 2: We're good.
00:33:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, because, yeah, this is when it turned into King Ghidorah. So, yeah, we're good. Because I was going to ask, like, about, like, the transformation. Because we all knew that motherfucker wasn't dead.
00:33:42
Speaker 2: No.
00:33:42
Speaker 1: No. I don't know.
00:33:43
Speaker 5: I knew it wasn't there, but I didn't know what the fuck was going on. I was going to ask y'all, like, what is this? Because that's what it looks like in the old Godzilla.
00:33:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, with the three-headed monsters.
00:33:53
Speaker 3: I was like, at some point, it's going to get three heads. And shit, this is some of the new Godzilla's, too.
00:33:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Is it? I think Ghidorah's in some of the new ones, yeah. Shit, was it in the one where.
00:34:03
Speaker 2: We, with the King Kong and shit? It might have been.
00:34:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
00:34:10
Speaker 2: I know Ghidorah's been in some other ones.
00:34:12
Speaker 5: This was pretty dope, though. Is this in the same world as the Apple show? The Monsters?
00:34:17
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no.
00:34:18
Speaker 2: No.
00:34:18
Speaker 3: The Apple show is in the same world as the other American movies, I think, right?
00:34:22
Speaker 1: I think so, yeah.
00:34:22
Speaker 2: The one with the Breaking Bad guy and the Stranger Things girl. I think. I'm not positive because I haven't watched that show yet.
00:34:29
Speaker 1: But, nah, like everything you
said, like him having to get closer to drop the rod, the rod hitting him, you know, because it was just... It was tense. You know, they only had two, so of course the second one was going to last. But it was striking. That lightning was fucking the door up.
00:34:48
Speaker 3: I guess the only part that confused me is I wish they would have maybe gave a little bit more detail about why they thought the lightning was going to work.
00:34:56
Speaker 1: That didn't make any sense.
00:34:59
Speaker 2: Did they say it?
00:34:59
Speaker 1: They did.
00:35:00
Speaker 2: Maybe I just missed it.
00:35:01
Speaker 1: But it was like real brief and When I kind of went back to watch it, I should have added that part, but I kind of.
00:35:10
Speaker 2: I skipped over that part of what they actually said.
00:35:13
Speaker 1: But it was something about just like... It was like maybe the lightning was the equivalency of the power of the sun and that should be able to kill it or something like that.
00:35:23
Speaker 3: I'm going to see it again. But yeah, I just missed that at first. I was like, why did y'all think striking it with lightning was going to kill it? When they said later on that it follows... storm pattern so i.
00:35:35
Speaker 1: Was like i don't get it i didn't understand that either because either either it got a taste of like the lightning and it liked it like so it was just chasing it at that point on as a food source or a snack or whatever like it was almost like a drug spike you know it got a hit and shit that motherfucker turning the king of doors like oh i need some more of that give me some more of that shit so i you know i don't know i didn't really kind of look to see all that much. But I was just kind of going with what the movie was kind of telling me at that point instead of.
00:36:10
Speaker 2: A lot of the lore.
00:36:11
Speaker 1: But yeah, Mike, this is when this motherfucker changed, bro.
00:36:14
Speaker 2: Man, this transformation was dope. I was not expecting this new power.
00:36:18
Speaker 3: I mean, again, I don't know if this is in the old black and white shits, but I did not know it could do that. But this is the moment where I was like, oh my God, this shit is crazy. When it picked those fucking houses up and he's flying, first of all, he's flying through The houses, that scene was dope.
00:36:35
Speaker 2: But then when you had the woman on her porch, she was like, help me! And you was like, bitch, how?
00:36:41
Speaker 3: And then the fucking house just dropped. I was like, God damn, this is crazy. This part was so good.
00:36:49
Speaker 1: No, it really was. You said, picked up a whole town.
00:36:53
Speaker 4: It wasn't just a house. That shit was a whole fucking town. And then dropped it somewhere else. Just disrespectful as hell. I was just like, damn. King Ghidorah was shit. And yeah, it has been in other.
00:37:05
Speaker 1: Movies, like the newer ones. Yeah, this is kind of like, Ryle, you talk about, I think a lot of you guys talk about like villains, right? And preachers or how, you get to a point in the movie like, okay, wait a minute, how the hell y'all gonna feed this? Because there's no way. The lightning didn't work. The bomb didn't work. How are you going to defeat King Ghidorah that now has three heads is even stronger than it was before because y'all didn't let the damn thing sleep. So I'm with you, Mike, in terms of seeing this shit. I don't even know how Godzilla's going to mess with this thing. Shit.
00:37:49
Speaker 2: We'll get there. But I thought it was dope. I did look up about.
00:37:56
Speaker 1: Because somebody says it was an article about the lore of the gravity beam because it's always kind of been around and established, but they never really kind of seen it. I'm with you. I don't know a lot about like this old shit, the door and shit like that. But I saw that this was. kind of how they fits the canning of of godora's gravity beam it was almost like implied but nobody ever really nobody ever did it yeah yeah they killed it man yeah no i thought this was dope as well it was yeah i'm with you i i feel y'all know you said shit mike but no it really did seem like like okay well how is godzilla gonna beat this thing um yeah i don't know like the hell wrong with.
00:38:39
Speaker 2: Y'all It's the goddamn king of the monsters, motherfucker.
00:38:42
Speaker 1: It is.
00:38:43
Speaker 2: What the fuck y'all talking about?
00:38:44
Speaker 1: It is, but... In the midst of all that, I want to go back just real quick just to get thoughts on one, were you guys surprised that Shikazuma wanted to fly again?
00:38:57
Speaker 3: I wasn't because he still has survivor's guilt. That's his big thing is he has guilt about what he did in the first movie.
00:39:03
Speaker 1: He still has that.
00:39:05
Speaker 3: Even though he's got the life he wanted, he has a woman, I assume it's the life he wants.
00:39:09
Speaker 2: I mean, He got a platonic wife, I guess. And he's got a kid. Platonic wife is crazy.
00:39:17
Speaker 3: But he still has this extreme guilt over what happened. We'll get to it. They play it in this movie, too.
00:39:24
Speaker 2: But I wasn't... Didn't he say something about everybody dying and him still being alive in here? I don't know if he said that in this movie.
00:39:29
Speaker 1: I thought he said that.
00:39:30
Speaker 3: Might have but that they definitely play on the idea that he still has this issue um but yeah i was the second it was brought to him i was like oh of course he's gonna go up there and fly You know, it's kind of fucked up that he would choose to do that.
00:39:46
Speaker 1: Right.
00:39:46
Speaker 2: But he's also looking at it like, well, if I die, I know at least.
00:39:52
Speaker 2: I forget the little girl's name already. Akiko has Noriko.
00:39:57
Speaker 1: And I guess you can go ahead and discuss the later part of the movie that you're talking about now.
00:40:02
Speaker 3: Because when he
inadvertently kills Noda, that's why Ayama.
00:40:09
Speaker 2: Chooses not to tell him.
00:40:10
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you that. That it was his bomb.
00:40:12
Speaker 3: Okay. Because he immediately says, was it the bomb I dropped? And she said, no, it was Ghidorah did it.
00:40:18
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:40:18
Speaker 3: Because she knows that he has this guilt. And if he knew that he did it again, he probably, who knows what he would have done?
00:40:25
Speaker 2: How does she know that?
00:40:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to ask the same question.
00:40:26
Speaker 2: How would she even know that? Because at this point, he's a local hero.
00:40:30
Speaker 3: Because remember in the first movie, when he failed to do the suicide mission, everyone in town hated him. But when he killed Godzilla later and he came back to the town, everyone loved him. So at this point, he is a local hero. So everyone knows his story. So yeah, I think she was just like, don't tell him that because we don't want him to bug out and maybe not even finish the mission.
00:40:53
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, okay. So if you guys have any thoughts on just Shikazuma flying again, because when Noda went to talk to them, he was kind of going through the plan B and And one of the guys looked at him because he was like, he kind of nodded his head like, no, don't say that shit here because, you know.
00:41:14
Speaker 2: He's going to want to get in.
00:41:15
Speaker 1: And he even asked, he was like, yeah, I heard you guys looking for Pallas. Were you guys surprised that he flew again? If you guys have any thoughts. I wouldn't.
00:41:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, me neither. I don't think I realized he didn't want to fly again from the last movie.
00:41:31
Speaker 1: Whatever.
00:41:32
Speaker 2: I know he has survivor's guilt and all that stuff. It wasn't that he didn't want to fly.
00:41:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, he wanted to fly.
00:41:35
Speaker 3: He wanted to fly again because he still has guilt about what happened before. And he feels bad now because he thought he killed Godzilla and he didn't.
00:41:42
Speaker 2: So what's your actual question.
00:41:44
Speaker 1: Then?
00:41:45
Speaker 2: Well, Mike already answered that. Okay. What about, Spike, what did you think about the professor's backstory? What about his backstory? Talking about the little dude with the crazy hair?
00:41:55
Speaker 1: No, that's not.
00:41:56
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you were talking about Murakami or whatever.
00:41:58
Speaker 1: Murakami, yeah.
00:41:58
Speaker 2: Murakami.
00:41:59
Speaker 3: That's not the guy with the crazy hair. That's the other Asian dude, the tall, skinny Asian guy.
00:42:02
Speaker 2: The head on the hazmat suit at the beginning? Yes. Okay.
00:42:05
Speaker 1: Yeah. Murakami's family died from the atomic bomb. Right.
00:42:12
Speaker 5: And they showed him being on the island with the atomic bomb.
00:42:15
Speaker 1: Dropped and all of the other things. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:42:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was interesting. It goes back to Mike's earlier point about them interweaving.
00:42:21
Speaker 5: The monster stuff and then you go back to the human stuff and you get these backstories why you should care about these people so yeah it did register as far as them showing him getting off the island i liked it i liked how they put it in there.
00:42:33
Speaker 1: Rod do you think that they're kind of trying to maybe do a connection between godzilla and the atomic bomb and the americans and godzilla being similar.
00:42:50
Speaker 2: I never looked at it that deep, personally. But there are. I was going to ask y'all. I didn't mean to cut you off.
00:42:57
Speaker 1: No, it's cool, man. Go ahead. Don't bond, Mike.
00:43:02
Speaker 5: But I had that same question.
00:43:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fine.
00:43:04
Speaker 1: Have you ever? I'm sorry. I couldn't help it. Go ahead.
00:43:09
Speaker 2: For y'all that have watched it or followed Godzilla, is that a thing?
00:43:12
Speaker 5: Are they talking about something else in lieu of Godzilla? Are they talking about something that's a big bad? Because they all kind of accepted of this monster thing. So I'm just wondering the same thing. Your question is, is that a known thing? But I guess it's not since you just asked Ron.
00:43:29
Speaker 1: Well, I'll just ask him mainly because we see like the professor like later on is fantasizing about using Godzilla for revenge. And he told the story that they called the atomic bomb Pika or Pika. And and they would show Godzilla. cut scenes or or of him of his family being burned and for me when i was watching it i thought that was the aftermath of godzilla for whatever reason until i kind of went back to prepare for this and i was like oh wait a minute no that was his family and i connected the dots i was like oh okay and they're having a conversation this was after the felon with godora there and i think it was around the same time they were talking about godora and he was talking to notice on about this and He was like, yeah, we called it PICA. And then later on, we had the whole fantasy thing of him using Godzilla as a weapon to get revenge on the Americans. So that's when he knocked down, in his mind, the Statue of Liberty and Godzilla shot on New York City.
00:44:32
Speaker 2: And everybody kind of had.
00:44:33
Speaker 1: The same visuals of what it would look like in his head of people dying from the radiation and stuff. Got it. Yeah, so that's all I'm asking about that. And if that kind of worked at all in the movie, adding this layer.
00:44:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, I.
00:44:54
Speaker 1: Never took it as like something outside of the monster or Godzilla. I thought it always had to do with the monster element and not like a political thing, I guess.
00:45:06
Speaker 2: You really don't remember the first review.
00:45:09
Speaker 1: I don't.
00:45:09
Speaker 2: Because we talked about that. I don't.
00:45:11
Speaker 3: Because
remember, that was how Godzilla was created, because they dropped the atomic bomb.
00:45:15
Speaker 1: So we just asked, though.
00:45:19
Speaker 3: Ken didn't get to me. He was letting y'all answer first. Yeah, but you could have taken the floor. I didn't want to interrupt nobody.
00:45:25
Speaker 2: You weren't. He just threw the question out there.
00:45:27
Speaker 1: No, he didn't.
00:45:28
Speaker 2: He asked you, then he asked Spike.
00:45:30
Speaker 1: I thought he just threw the question out there.
00:45:31
Speaker 2: He threw the question out there, and you jumped your ass in first. And then Spike interrupted you. He asked and I interrupted. That's what happened. Yeah, it wasn't like, he didn't ask me nothing.
00:45:39
Speaker 1: I was like, y'all talk.
00:45:40
Speaker 4: I'm talking about before that. It was early on.
00:45:42
Speaker 1: I did ask about Godzilla's origin story. About Ghidorah. No.
00:45:46
Speaker 2: Sorry, go ahead. No, I just completely forgot.
00:45:48
Speaker 1: You're right. That is how it happened.
00:45:51
Speaker 3: But we don't know, like, I don't remember at least, like, what the radiation affected to make Godzilla. I just remember they said that the bombs being dropped... The radiation from those caused Godzilla to get bigger or whatever.
00:46:07
Speaker 2: And I meant to go back and, well, I wanted to go back and watch it.
00:46:10
Speaker 1: I just didn't have time. I really did.
00:46:12
Speaker 4: After seeing this one, I was like, damn, I want to go back and watch the first one. I knew a lot of my questions probably would have been answered that are posed to the day. But yeah, I'm talking about more so, well, I guess that does have to do with it.
00:46:28
Speaker 1: The bombs and stuff.
00:46:30
Speaker 3: There was a connection because I think y'all left out that Murakami lived through not only the atomic bomb, he was also there when Godzilla attacked.
00:46:39
Speaker 1: Right.
00:46:39
Speaker 2: So he lived through both attacks.
00:46:41
Speaker 1: So that's why I was confused. He made a comment earlier. He said, I'm, again, the last survivor. Yes.
00:46:48
Speaker 3: Which I think made his story that much better.
00:46:52
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's what I was basically saying.
00:46:54
Speaker 4: So if there is a bombing element or whatever, I was taking the flashbacks As the Godzilla incident.
00:47:03
Speaker 2: I didn't look at it. I did too at first. Oh, okay.
00:47:06
Speaker 3: They put the date. I got you.
00:47:09
Speaker 2: 45, I think it was.
00:47:10
Speaker 1: Was it 47?
00:47:10
Speaker 3: 47, I thought it was.
00:47:12
Speaker 2: Okay. No, I think there was a 45.
00:47:15
Speaker 3: I think 45 is when the atomic bomb happened.
00:47:17
Speaker 1: Got it.
00:47:17
Speaker 3: And then 47 is when Godzilla happened. That's what I think it was. So they're saying that he lived through both, but he looks at it like Americans caused all of this. You caused the atomic bomb, which killed my family. And then you cause the creature to come back and kill more of us. That's why he's dreaming of using Godzilla as revenge on America.
00:47:37
Speaker 4: Which is why they never thought they would be excited to see an American plane flying over.
00:47:44
Speaker 3: That's why they put the emphasis on them painting over the American signs on those planes. They painted the Japanese red.
00:47:53
Speaker 2: Circle over it.
00:47:56
Speaker 1: See, we got that. Yeah, we got that. Good job. Good job, team. Yeah. They don't give you everything in these movies, so you have to kind of, which is kind of dope.
00:48:07
Speaker 4: And I'm not always following along either with the subtitles because I'm so caught up in the action. So sometimes I'm like, oh yeah, that's right, it's this subtitle. I forget. But shit, Mike, that motherfucker woke up, bro. Godzilla woke up. That part was so good, man.
00:48:25
Speaker 2: Fucking whales was.
00:48:26
Speaker 1: Like, hell. Yeah, that whale was like, bitch, I'm out. Fuck this shit.
00:48:31
Speaker 4: And that just tell you how big Godzilla is, because whales are like the biggest creature in the sea.
00:48:38
Speaker 2: So it was like, God, man, this motherfucker really is huge.
00:48:43
Speaker 3: They did such a good job with him coming back.
00:48:44
Speaker 2: I mean, that music will never not be iconic.
00:48:47
Speaker 1: Man.
00:48:48
Speaker 6: Every time.
00:48:53
Speaker 2: And of course, you just want to get the fuck up.
00:48:56
Speaker 1: Every time, bro. Get the fuck up. That's wild. Every time.
00:49:00
Speaker 2: But nah, man.
00:49:01
Speaker 1: The second that music came on, I was in my seat like, let's go.
00:49:05
Speaker 2: Here he come. And he came up out the water. And the way he was just following this. Oh, that shit was hard.
00:49:09
Speaker 1: It was. Oh, that shit was so hard. I was like, oh, he about to kick ass. He about to kick ass.
00:49:14
Speaker 4: Because he's always known to want to be head honcho. He wants to be- He's the alpha.
00:49:21
Speaker 1: The alpha. Yeah.
00:49:22
Speaker 4: So I thought that's what he was doing. I didn't know they were actually trying to lure him there. Because I think in other movies, he feels the presence of another monster or something like that, and he comes- Whereas this, they explained it better. And like, nah, we got to lure this motherfucker out. And then when he sees his ass, I was like, oh, okay. What the fuck you doing here? Like, this my shit.
00:49:44
Speaker 1: Right. I'm the only one that gets to destroy this. Right, right, right. You know? Right.
00:49:49
Speaker 2: You destroyed that whole city over there?
00:49:51
Speaker 1: Who told you to do that?
00:49:52
Speaker 2: I was planning on that for next week.
00:49:54
Speaker 1: That's my corner. You know what I'm saying? That's my corner.
00:49:56
Speaker 2: It's been my corner. Shit. Show three heads. That means you can suck my dick three times, motherfucker.
00:50:02
Speaker
1: Let's go. Yeah, but that shit was crazy. What is it, Murakami? The other guy? Professor.
00:50:11
Speaker 2: Murakami.
00:50:11
Speaker 1: Murakami.
00:50:13
Speaker 2: Now, to everybody listening, I'm probably fucking the names up, too. You're saying it confidently, though.
00:50:18
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:50:19
Speaker 2: I say a lot of wrong shit confidently, but I think it's Murakami.
00:50:24
Speaker 1: It's going to be the professor. How about that?
00:50:25
Speaker 2: The professor. Professor M.
00:50:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, Professor M. He was distraught. When he found out Godzilla was alive. He thought that captain was lying. He snatched that captain up so fast. I thought that was Noda that bugged out. Nah, that was. I thought they all did. I thought the professor was the one that was like, nah, you're lying. They all did.
00:50:44
Speaker 2: I guess they all did.
00:50:44
Speaker 1: They all did.
00:50:45
Speaker 2: Because Shikishima also was like, what the? Nah.
00:50:48
Speaker 1: Right. We saw that. We saw that.
00:50:49
Speaker 2: What the fuck you talking about?
00:50:52
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah. Yeah. Nah, all of them was shook. But then that's when the professor came up with the plan. It was like, all right, well, we just fight fire with fire. We just use creature to fight creature, which makes sense. Yeah, because our shit didn't work, so fuck it.
00:51:06
Speaker 2: No, it was a good plan.
00:51:08
Speaker 3: It's like, let one monster fight the other monster, and then while the other monster is weak, we attack them.
00:51:13
Speaker 2: It completely made sense.
00:51:17
Speaker 1: How? You said it did not make sense. Ross said it didn't make sense.
00:51:22
Speaker 4: Nah, that didn't make sense because, I mean, y'all did all that shit to try to defeat Godzilla last time and it didn't work.
00:51:27
Speaker 2: Like, why would you think it would work now?
00:51:29
Speaker 3: I think what they were, I think that they were probably thinking that, whatchamacallit, the other thing, Ghidorah. I think they thought Ghidorah was going to win. And then they'd be able to take Ghidorah out while Ghidorah was weaker.
00:51:44
Speaker 4: But my thing is, like, if you couldn't even kill Godzilla, apparently, why the hell would you think you'd be able to kill the one that beats Godzilla?
00:51:51
Speaker 1: Yep. You're right, Rock. Because when they said the plan, I was like, oh, yeah, and then we'll just kill the weaker one. No, you won't. No, you won't. Yeah, I thought the same thing.
00:52:02
Speaker 2: The shit that you did to Godzilla last time and that shit didn't kill him? And you just weren't able to kill Ghidorah.
00:52:06
Speaker 1: So what do you have that you think that can kill this? It made no sense. I mean, they had a plan.
00:52:12
Speaker 3: I disagree with y'all. Because at this point, you have two monsters. One is better than two. So it's like, well, let's go ahead and try this because we're trying to kill the one and it's not working. So let's let them fight each other and hopefully this one fucks the other one up bad enough that we'll be able to take it down.
00:52:31
Speaker 2: It sounds like a good plan.
00:52:32
Speaker 1: It did sound like.
00:52:33
Speaker 2: A good plan because they don't know that Godzilla just.
00:52:36
Speaker 3: Recreates from a little piece of himself they don't know that all they know is Godzilla didn't die.
00:52:42
Speaker 4: Man you just saw this motherfucker morph into three like what you you're not concerned that he's gonna just morph into something.
00:52:48
Speaker 3: Else no because I don't think they know exactly what it is that's happening I think I think a lot of times we put audience logic into the movie like we can see like oh and plus we know that there's a history of this type of shit but in the movie I think it's a little unfair for y'all to be like well this is a.
00:53:04
Speaker 2: Dumb plan What other plan do they have?
00:53:06
Speaker 4: I don't think it's unfair, because y'all just did a whole movie going all the way there to kill Godzilla.
00:53:12
Speaker 2: Yes, but there wasn't another monster fighting him.
00:53:14
Speaker 6: Right.
00:53:14
Speaker 1: In fairness to them, okay, so there's two thoughts. In fairness to them, they thought they killed Godzilla the first time. But on the flip side of that, they also realized this motherfucker's still alive and came back from the dead. He resurrected. Right.
00:53:26
Speaker 5: But if the power's down, it shouldn't take as much to kill him as they thought process.
00:53:31
Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly.
00:53:32
Speaker 4: You just killed Godzilla to one morsel.
00:53:36
Speaker 1: They don't know that.
00:53:38
Speaker 4: But they do eventually know that, which is why they said the one could kill the other one and.
00:53:42
Speaker 1: Make the other weaker.
00:53:43
Speaker 2: No, they don't eventually know that. They don't know that Godzilla recreated itself from one little piece. They had to. What do you think happened?
00:53:50
Speaker 1: They don't know.
00:53:51
Speaker 4: My point is that you saw him explode in the ocean. That's why he was so pissed. No, we saw him fucking die. Why do you think you'll be able to kill him or the other one when you saw him blown to smithereens?
00:54:06
Speaker 3: Because you did not have another monster. fucking him up first so they probably thought this thing is stronger than Godzilla so they're probably thinking okay hopefully this thing will kill Godzilla and in the moment Godzilla will weaken this one enough to where we can attack it my thing is y'all are acting like they had a whole bunch of options they didn't have any options this was it this is what makes this movie so good which is why I'm disagreeing with y'all so hard is when y'all are like well.
00:54:32
Speaker 1: This is a stupid plan this is a stupid plan.
00:54:34
Speaker 2: What other plan did they have name me one other plan that they could have done all I'm.
00:54:38
Speaker 1: Saying is that Well, what I'm saying is this, is that.
00:54:43
Speaker 2: There needed to be a Leroy in the room like Rod. Leroy would have died.
00:54:46
Speaker 1: Leroy wouldn't have went on. And Leroy didn't show back up to file the fucking plan.
00:54:52
Speaker 2: Because they would have looked at Leroy and be like, okay, Leroy, what is your plan?
00:54:55
Speaker 1: Let's just leave.
00:54:56
Speaker 2: And that would have been the end of the movie.
00:54:58
Speaker 1: Let's just leave. Let's just go. So we're desperate. This is all we got. Right. I get you. But just some dissenting voice. We're like, I don't know, y'all.
00:55:09
Speaker 2: What good would that have done the movie? I don't understand. Y'all being picky as hell. No, it's not a detriment to the movie. I still like it.
00:55:16
Speaker 4: I still like that they went through with the plan because I always known that Godzilla likes to be the alpha male, I mean, alpha creature or whatever.
00:55:25
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I liked it.
00:55:28
Speaker 4: But I just didn't, I just, that part didn't make sense to me.
00:55:33
Speaker 2: That the weaker, you were going to be able to kill the weaker one.
00:55:36
Speaker 4: When you saw Godzilla blown to smithereens, like, I don't understand, like, what's weaker than being blown apart?
00:55:45
Speaker 2: Being blown apart and torn to pieces. I don't know. That's what I'm saying.
00:55:49
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, it's like, once again, not everybody saw that. Shikishima saw it. It's not like it was on fucking video. Shikishima saw it. Noda saw it. And those two guys on the ship.
00:56:00
Speaker 1: It actually was on video. Remember, they played it back.
00:56:02
Speaker 2: Who did it?
00:56:04
Speaker 1: In the room.
00:56:04
Speaker 3: The Americans had it on video. They played Godzilla being blown up. Being blown up in the ocean from the first movie. I remember they showed the aftermath. No, they showed that shit. They showed it on the screen.
00:56:16
Speaker 2: I don't remember that. When it happened, yeah. They were watching it on the screen. Either way, y'all being picky as hell.
00:56:25
Speaker 1: I just understand Rod's position. And I also understand what you're saying. So I'm with both of you guys. You're right. They didn't have any other choice. So this was the best we can do. We'll just have them fight each other. And then we'll just try our best to kill the one that's weak.
00:56:49
Speaker 3: It's a perfect plan to be because what else are we going to do? It's either this or we just fucking sit here and die. Godzilla going to fuck some shit up over there. Ghidorah's going to fuck some shit up over here and we're fucked on both sides. Why not pit them against each other and see, if anything, hopefully they'll kill each other.
00:57:05
Speaker 1: But they created this whole mess. Who?
00:57:10
Speaker 2: The Japanese.
00:57:11
Speaker 3: How?
00:57:12
Speaker 1: Because Godzilla was fine, Spike, chilling as wherever he was at in the ocean.
00:57:19
Speaker 2: And the Japanese made the U.S. drop a bomb?
00:57:22
Speaker 1: Ghidorah was asleep. And as soon as they electrocuted that motherfucker, once that motherfucker changed to the King Ghidorah mic because of their action, that's when Godzilla was like, wait a fucking minute. There's something else around here? If they would have left that motherfucker alone, and it never would have changed to King Ghidorah.
00:57:41
Speaker 3: And it would have still been killing people and destroying villages.
00:57:44
Speaker 1: What are y'all talking about? That's how Godzilla came back. What I'm saying is that when Ghidorah was running around fucking up the cities, everything was fine. But when King Ghidorah woke up, No, it wasn't fine. What in the hell?
00:57:55
Speaker 2: See, Rod's pickiness, this is what happens.
00:57:58
Speaker 3: He kicks it off, and then you join in, and now y'all tearing the movie apart.
00:58:02
Speaker 1: I'm not tearing the movie apart.
00:58:03
Speaker 2: Blaming the Japanese people.
00:58:05
Speaker 1: I thought about this when it happened. I was like, wait a minute, because when it evolved into King Ghidorah, that's when Godzilla woke up.
00:58:14
Speaker 2: Yes, the Japanese wouldn't have known that.
00:58:17
Speaker 1: They had no idea.
00:58:18
Speaker 2: First of all, they didn't even know Godzilla was alive anymore.
00:58:20
Speaker 1: I know.
00:58:20
Speaker 2: But y'all, you're like, this is all the Japanese people's fault. And they never would have known if Ghidorah would have been Ghidorah. Ghidorah was eventually going to wake back up.
00:58:27
Speaker 1: Ghidorah wouldn't have changed into King Ghidorah.
00:58:29
Speaker 2: They didn't know he could do that.
00:58:30
Speaker 1: And Godzilla... Right. And that's why they fucked up. That's what Rod said.
00:58:36
Speaker 2: Oh, I can't stand y'all. See, this is how Rod ruins shit.
00:58:40
Speaker 1: I'm not. This is how Rod ruins shit. I'm not, bro.
00:58:42
Speaker 2: We were doing just fine with giving this movie praise. Here comes Rod's praise.
00:58:45
Speaker 1: It is.
00:58:46
Speaker 2: It's a dumbass plan. It was a dumbass plan. Let the one fight the other one, and I'm going to fight the weaker one.
00:58:51
Speaker 1: That's dumb as hell. You saw what happened, though.
00:58:54
Speaker 2: The tanks and shit was falling.
00:58:56
Speaker 1: None of that shit was working.
00:58:59
Speaker 2: I don't know. It looked like it was working for a minute.
00:59:01
Speaker 1: Well, let's get to the battle.
00:59:02
Speaker 2: But she told him to stop. She said stop.
00:59:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're pretty much going along. So now that's the plan. They created the sound machine. They needed the G cells from Noriko. And Shikisima went, baby, I'm going to go get her.
00:59:18
Speaker 2: This shit look crazy.
00:59:19
Speaker 1: This shit look crazy, too.
00:59:22
Speaker 2: This is the only part I thought
didn't make any sense. Him leaving?
00:59:25
Speaker 3: No, him being like, well, if you're going to go, I'm going to go too. I was like, well, that doesn't make any sense because now you're going to leave Akiko by herself. So, no, that doesn't make any sense. But he also probably knew that I'm the only one that can do this shit because in the last battle, the other two motherfuckers died. But it's not like this ship had to do a whole bunch of tricky shit. It just had to fly over them. So I was just like, eh, I'm not sure about this piece.
00:59:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Yeah, so they on the train.
00:59:52
Speaker 2: They out of here.
00:59:53
Speaker 1: And then they went to another city that messed up. She saw devastation. She saw people messed up when she volunteered to help. She saw it was attacking another city, a major city, to Osaka, I think. And then that's what she was like. She just was like, all right, fine, what y'all need? And he came back.
01:00:16
Speaker 2: He punched.
01:00:17
Speaker 1: He had to punch that guy.
01:00:19
Speaker 2: Yes, he did. Why? Because he took my girl.
01:00:23
Speaker 1: She chose him. And then we're pretty much going to the final battle here. We already talked about the professor's fantasizing about the revenge. Unless you guys have any thoughts about that. About which part?
01:00:48
Speaker 2: Just the professor's. Fantasizing about killing America with Godzilla.
01:00:53
Speaker 1: This was so.
01:00:55
Speaker 3: Admittedly, my mom was bugging me, so I looked at my phone during this part. When I looked back up, I saw Godzilla attacking the Statue of Liberty, and I was like, how the fuck.
01:01:03
Speaker 1: Did he get over there?
01:01:04
Speaker 3: I didn't realize this was a daydream until after that part was over. But once I realized it, I was like, okay, that was a really dope way to show what Murakami's mindset is.
01:01:15
Speaker 2: I'm only here for revenge. I don't care about none of this other shit.
01:01:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I did read that they made that Godzilla bigger to distinguish between the movie Godzilla or the real-life Godzilla versus the fantasy Godzilla.
01:01:32
Speaker 2: I thought this Godzilla was bigger.
01:01:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, but the directors or whoever said we wanted to make it bigger so people wouldn't get confused.
01:01:40
Speaker 2: So that's why they made it as big as the Statue of Liberty.
01:01:43
Speaker 3: I thought the Godzilla that's actually in the movie, the real Godzilla in the movie, I thought that was bigger than the first Godzilla.
01:01:48
Speaker 2: It's not as big as the one in the fantasy. Interesting.
01:01:51
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:01:51
Speaker 2: I don't think I want to put that together.
01:01:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he said. I didn't either when I watched it. They all seemed the same to me, Rod. So when I read it, and I didn't go back to see it, but when I read it, he said, yeah, they wanted to visually make it as big as the Statue of Liberty so the viewers wouldn't get confused. I'm not saying it didn't work because it didn't work on me. Because I'm with you, Mike. The first time I watched it, I was like, damn, he ain't going to get there in time. He going through there. He taking the long way home around. So I don't know how he got there either. But anyway, so that was the plan. The sound machine. They got, oh boy, they dropped the Kiko off with the orphanage. And then they had this sort of emotional scene. And she hit him with the have a safe trip the first time. That was so confusing. Why was that confusing?
01:02:43
Speaker 2: Because he didn't read the subtitles.
01:02:45
Speaker 1: I did read the subtitles. That's how I know she said have a safe trip.
01:02:52
Speaker 4: But it was like you're crying and say have a safe trip at the same time.
01:02:55
Speaker 1: It was like really confusing.
01:02:56
Speaker 3: That's why you didn't read the subtitles. They explained that part before it. Remember she's... Oh, go ahead, Ken.
01:03:02
Speaker 1: No, go ahead.
01:03:03
Speaker 3: So Noriko was telling Akiko and it was during a part that was a bit of a drag. So I could see you probably just being like, all right, man, let's move this shit along. But she was explaining to her that When you say to someone, have a nice trip, you're basically saying you're.
01:03:18
Speaker 2: Going to come back.
01:03:20
Speaker 1: It's a spell.
01:03:21
Speaker 2: It's a spell to make you come back. So that's why she was.
01:03:24
Speaker 1: Saying, have a nice trip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I bet you were like, she annoying as shit.
01:03:29
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck's wrong with this little weird-ass girl?
01:03:31
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense.
01:03:32
Speaker 2: Right.
01:03:33
Speaker 1: Especially, oh my God, her crying. Oh my God. Jeez. What?
01:03:37
Speaker 4: But that does give it a really good explanation. Yeah, I needed that context, actually. Because that makes it make sense.
01:03:42
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:03:42
Speaker 1: Damn. The big fight, y'all. Godzilla versus King Ghidorah. We're finally here. And Iyoma determines that Ghidorah's return of the Genza because of the storm. And they have this trap set up for Ghidorah. But Ghidorah didn't really.
01:04:02
Speaker 3: Fall for it. I didn't get the traps. I was hoping y'all could explain this part.
01:04:05
Speaker 1: I was going to ask y'all. Because how was it a trap?
01:04:09
Speaker 2: You put these little fucking... They throw ropes on him? You thought that was going to hold him?
01:04:13
Speaker 1: No, that's just part of the trap. So what was the trap?
01:04:15
Speaker 2: I didn't get it.
01:04:15
Speaker 1: So this is what I was saying earlier about they don't really explain what happens, so you got to... Because they were shocking him.
01:04:22
Speaker 2: Right, but they're supposed to freeze him, shock him, and something else. So I got the freezing part. I had to isolate him. I didn't get the.
01:04:29
Speaker 3: Shocking part, because if you knew that last time you dumb motherfucker shocked him, he grew two heads. So why are you shocking him again? And I'm certain it makes sense. I just didn't catch it.
01:04:40
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:04:41
Speaker 2: I thought I missed it.
01:04:42
Speaker 4: I don't either, but... But the fight is before this, right? This is after Ghidorah actually beat Godzilla.
01:04:48
Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say. Ghidorah did beat him. Yeah, so this fight did not disappoint.
01:04:54
Speaker 2: This shit was really fucking good.
01:04:56
Speaker 4: You know how Transformers be fucking up with the big scenes.
01:05:00
Speaker 2: And fights and shit?
01:05:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks all junky.
01:05:02
Speaker 2: It looks all.
01:05:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, no.
01:05:03
Speaker 4: This was done really fucking well. You could clearly see... things happening I'm like god damn that motherfucker just like he ripped it one of the heads off or something like.
01:05:14
Speaker 1: That he hit it off with his tail yeah.
01:05:16
Speaker 4: Oh that's right that's right yeah man that man this shit was so good it was so so well done um even Ghidorah was like like lifted up a piece and just threw that shit out.
01:05:26
Speaker 1: Like that motherfucker he lifted up Godzilla he body slammed.
01:05:29
Speaker 4: Godzilla yeah I was like man this is so good they killed this scene um But, yeah, yeah, he actually beat fucking Godzilla.
01:05:38
Speaker 1: I was like, damn. So, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
01:05:41
Speaker 4: Like, I know Godzilla a bad motherfucker, but Ghidorah just seemed like something else, bro.
01:05:47
Speaker 2: But we all knew Godzilla was going to come back regardless.
01:05:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
01:05:49
Speaker 2: And they were trying to act like they did it. Like, he was going to wake up.
01:05:52
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:05:52
Speaker 2: It just took him a minute.
01:05:54
Speaker 1: Because he got knocked out.
01:05:55
Speaker 2: He got knocked out, but he was going to come back. And when he came back, what happened?
01:05:58
Speaker 1: Right.
01:05:58
Speaker 2: Then he buried his ass, kid.
01:06:00
Speaker 1: He did. God damn, kid.
01:06:03
Speaker 2: Like, you dead, nigga. Yeah. kick some dirt on his ass. You know what I'm saying?
01:06:07
Speaker 1: God, look. Ghidorah is dirty, bro.
01:06:08
Speaker 4: It was so disrespectful the way he fucking did Godzilla.
01:06:12
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, shit. That whole shit.
01:06:15
Speaker 2: And then he bite off his arm, tore off Godzilla's arm.
01:06:19
Speaker 3: Ghidorah bit Godzilla's arm, and then Godzilla knocked the head off, and then the And it.
01:06:24
Speaker 2: Still had it in his mouth.
01:06:26
Speaker 1: That shit was crazy.
01:06:27
Speaker 2: I think Godzilla grew another hand back then. I don't need that fucking hand, bitch. What's wrong with you?
01:06:31
Speaker 1: Thought you did something. I got another one. Nah, Godzilla's the
truth, man. And that fucking radiation thing, man, is fucking crazy. That was a good scene.
01:06:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they showed like the The tail, like... Yeah, I love how they do it. Oh, man, it's so good. Like, they do a really good job with this.
01:06:50
Speaker 2: But it was dope seeing that Ghidorah had it, too, all of a sudden.
01:06:52
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
01:06:53
Speaker 1: It ingested Godzilla, so now... Now.
01:06:56
Speaker 2: Oh, you didn't catch that?
01:06:57
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:06:58
Speaker 2: Goddamn. When it fused with the severed head.
01:07:02
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:07:03
Speaker 3: It now had G-cells in it, so it fucking.
01:07:06
Speaker 1: Damn.
01:07:06
Speaker 2: Grew the same thing.
01:07:07
Speaker 1: Damn, motherfucker. Damn. But he didn't get a chance to fire. Yeah, nah. Yeah. Because Godzilla took him out.
01:07:14
Speaker 2: Watch out... Y'all been talking about the fight.
01:07:16
Speaker 1: Spike, you got any thoughts about the fight? It was cool.
01:07:19
Speaker 2: I liked it. It was cool.
01:07:20
Speaker 1: It was cool. That shit was good. This was a heavyweight battle, Spike.
01:07:24
Speaker 2: It was, man.
01:07:25
Speaker 1: That was good.
01:07:26
Speaker 2: Remember when we did the Godzilla King Kong?
01:07:28
Speaker 1: When we was excited about that shit? We did, yeah.
01:07:30
Speaker 2: But it was better than that.
01:07:32
Speaker 1: It was better than that. Mike, I got a confession. That shit was good, though.
01:07:35
Speaker 2: I got a confession.
01:07:36
Speaker 1: I know. Oh, no way.
01:07:39
Speaker 2: Spike, I spent a good.
01:07:42
Speaker 1: Number of hours and episodes Santa King called to take Godzilla. I got to admit that I'm wrong. I got a newfound... Godzilla's just... He's too good, man. I admit that I was wrong. I would no longer try to make that argument. This shit was different. Even though Ghidorah whooped his ass, but... The way he came back. Yeah, Godzilla is not like that. That's my only gripe.
01:08:09
Speaker 3: I wish that final part would have lasted a little bit longer. Because Ghidorah fucking slammed him, buried him, pulled his fucking little spikes out, and then Godzilla just kind of woke up, walked over there, and just immediately shot at him. I wish the fight would have gone on a little bit longer because Ghidorah did a lot of damage to him. I would have rather see Godzilla fuck him up a little bit more and then shoot him.
01:08:34
Speaker 1: And that was a weakened Ghidorah, too, that Godzilla shot with a bigger blast. The best move, though, to me was when he wrapped around that motherfucker. Oh, yeah, and hit his head and hit his body and shit.
01:08:49
Speaker 2: I was like, God damn, Ghidorah.
01:08:50
Speaker 1: He wrapped around like a fucking snake, bro. And that essentially, yeah. And that shit looked smooth, too. It kind of, the way it looked smooth.
01:08:59
Speaker 3: Yeah.
01:09:00
Speaker 1: He just, man, I was.
01:09:03
Speaker 2: Like, yo. That's when he killed him. Well, initially killed him.
01:09:05
Speaker 1: Yeah. Because he hit him in the head and hit him in the body.
01:09:08
Speaker 2: And then shot him in the chest.
01:09:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, damn, he fucked guys up. Nah, man, that shit was good, man. Did he, he didn't, he didn't kill him, he just knocked him out?
01:09:17
Speaker 2: I thought so.
01:09:17
Speaker 1: Nah, he was, I think he was dead. He had to rejuvenate.
01:09:21
Speaker 3: That's what Godzilla does every time. He comes back stronger. Yeah, because that motherfucker, that blast was crazy.
01:09:27
Speaker 4: I know you said you wanted more, but I did like the fact that he had the regular beam and he turned that shit like Goku and it was even a bigger beam.
01:09:36
Speaker 1: I was like, God damn.
01:09:38
Speaker 4: So Godzilla can't die? No, they don't know how to kill him. Yeah, you would have to get rid of all the pieces, I think. He can't have nothing left over for him to rejuvenate from. Because that's what they showed in the first one. He was in the ocean and they showed that little piece.
01:09:53
Speaker 1: Yep.
01:09:54
Speaker 2: And it took two years for it to come back.
01:09:56
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah.
01:09:56
Speaker 4: Because I remember for the longest, that's what the logo was. And you didn't know what that was. Well, I didn't know what it was. I was like, oh, damn, that's the logo. Yeah, this is a good scene, man.
01:10:07
Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
01:10:08
Speaker 1: I was. So, yeah, so basically the plan, I just went to Wikipedia to see if they have some explanation for it.
01:10:15
Speaker 2: I don't know about the lightning, though.
01:10:18
Speaker 1: But we can easily see about the liquid nitrogen covering a fool just to create extreme temperatures. They kind of said that to kind of cause him to kind of break apart. Oh, now I get it.
01:10:31
Speaker 2: Shock him a bunch to kind of like maybe make his body temperature hot and then freeze him.
01:10:36
Speaker 1: Well, they were using the strikes to kind of buy time for Noda to get down there to do the switch because the switch broke. Because the strikes do stop him. It did.
01:10:49
Speaker 4: Momentarily. It irritated him. Yeah, it stopped him momentarily. And that's all they really needed to do to freeze, right?
01:10:57
Speaker 1: Well, I guess, because when he walked in, he was like, take one more step. And this is when they were trying to wait for Godzilla to get there, because Godzilla was taking his time. Oh, that scene, Mike, when Godzilla came, he revved up the plane. And he was getting that plane, and he was taking off, and Godzilla's swimming like, man.
01:11:15
Speaker 2: That was a good-ass scene. Ooh, that shit looked so fucking dope.
01:11:17
Speaker 1: It looked so good.
01:11:18
Speaker 3: Ah, man.
01:11:19
Speaker 2: They did such a good job.
01:11:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, he barely got away. But, yeah, so that shit was dope. But, yeah, it was like, take one more
step, and he wouldn't take the step. And then I think he looked over and saw them motherfuckers over there, and then he shot at them. They got fucked up. Some other shit got fucked up. And then all the other guys got hurt. But they volunteered to go, but Noda was like, all right, man, I'll go.
01:11:45
Speaker 2: And that's when he passed. That was sad.
01:11:47
Speaker 1: Which part?
01:11:49
Speaker 2: When Noda died.
01:11:49
Speaker 1: Ayoma and Charlie, I was going to ask. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did we need it, though? Yeah. Yes. It raises the stakes because.
01:12:00
Speaker 3: Good guys have to die in order for these movies to work, especially if it's a sequel.
01:12:04
Speaker 2: So them taking out Noda made sense.
01:12:07
Speaker 3: But it was very sad because I thought he was going to get away.
01:12:10
Speaker 1: I did too.
01:12:11
Speaker 3: And then when his truck flipped, I was like, oh, they're about to kill my boy. And this was such a dope shot where they did it through his broken glasses. Like you can see the plane through his broken glasses. It was such, oh, it was so good.
01:12:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Gadoro was like, nah, you're not getting away from this shit. And shot his ass. And the lightning, he was shooting him with the lightning. And then that's when they were trying to, That's when they were hitting him with the Transformer, the lightning to buy time for him to wake up Godzilla. And Godzilla woke up. We already talked about him shooting Ghidorah, killing Ghidorah. But we did see Ghidorah had the blue thing that you were mentioning, Mike. I don't know if Ghidorah's dead because we never seen where Ghidorah went. I don't think she is. I don't think it is. I don't think it's dead. Because we didn't see the results of that blue beam.
01:13:05
Speaker 2: We didn't. But I assume that it disintegrated him. Probably did, but it's probably going to come back somehow.
01:13:11
Speaker 3: I hope not, because there's so many different monsters in Godzilla. It looks like we don't need Ghidorah to come back.
01:13:18
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then that's when the U.S. showed up.
01:13:21
Speaker 2: Right on time. Starting some shit.
01:13:23
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did they know the U.S.
01:13:26
Speaker 2: Was going to do that? They looked surprised. No, that was the whole plan.
01:13:30
Speaker 1: Okay, I just wanted to make sure, because when I went back and.
01:13:33
Speaker 5: When I was seeing their faces, their faces seemed like they were, like, sad about it.
01:13:36
Speaker 3: They were, because at that point, they realized that they can use Godzilla as, like, a hero. So I think they started to, like, almost, like, empathize with Godzilla.
01:13:45
Speaker 1: That's what they... It seemed like they were trying to do. And it's almost like, and this is why I wanted to have the discussion, because I was like, okay, well, we definitely don't want the fucking Americans to get it, because we already know what they'll do with some fucking shit.
01:13:57
Speaker 3: Um.
01:13:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on the empathizing with him, but also Godzilla actually saved us. So we kind of probably need to keep him around because Godzilla is not going to let another monster impede on his territory.
01:14:13
Speaker 2: And he was finna leave.
01:14:14
Speaker 5: So what, is it just good with the devil you know? Because don't he come fuck they citizens and shit up too?
01:14:18
Speaker 3: He did in the first one, but it looked like after he killed... Ghidorah didn't need to turn around. It looked like he was ready to go back to the sea. And then these motherfuckers started.
01:14:26
Speaker 1: Shooting at him. He's like, wait, I just saved you, Holmes.
01:14:30
Speaker 2: And maybe, I mean, I'm adding it. Maybe he thought that it was the U.S.
01:14:34
Speaker 1: That did it, which is why he didn't strike at the Japanese who let him go.
01:14:39
Speaker 3: I don't think he can tell the difference. That's another one of those, like, Carrie and Jason, I feel like, where they're.
01:14:44
Speaker 1: Trying to, like, make the villain.
01:14:46
Speaker 2: You're empathetic. They do that in the other movies, too.
01:14:49
Speaker 3: They did it worse in the American movies, but they always used Godzilla to take out other monsters.
01:14:56
Speaker 2: So I thought it was fine.
01:14:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was fine, too. I mean, it makes sense. Godzilla was done. His job was done.
01:15:02
Speaker 3: Only thing I didn't really like is that he didn't strike back. Those ships in the water shot at him. And after they stopped, Godzilla was like, all right, fuck.
01:15:09
Speaker 2: It, I'm just going to go swim.
01:15:10
Speaker 1: He was tired, Mike. He had enough. It was a long day for Godzilla. He just got rejuvenated.
01:15:15
Speaker 2: It would have been cooler if he went ahead and took out them ships and then went in the water.
01:15:18
Speaker 1: I got you, but he ain't got time. Because remember, every time he fires his beam, it fucks him up. So he was like, man, first of all, this little shit ain't doing shit. I just want to go home, get in my chair. Watch all in the family. Yeah, I'm going to just go get in my chair, bro. Y'all call me when another monster show up, right? But right now, my job is done. And that's it. I'm out of here. And the professor, you know, Destroyed all of his technology because Shigazima pulled a strap on him and was like, hey, y'all not about to take this away from me. And that's when they showed the whole, Noda came.
01:15:57
Speaker 2: And talked to him. Yes, he was always going to do it anyway. Destroy stuff?
01:16:02
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
01:16:03
Speaker 2: Because remember, he set the trap at his lab.
01:16:07
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
01:16:08
Speaker 2: So he was always planning that anyway.
01:16:10
Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
01:16:11
Speaker 3: So it wasn't really Shikishima pulling the gun on him. He was always going to do it.
01:16:16
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:16:16
Speaker 1: Shikishima didn't know that. Yeah, he didn't know that. That's when they told us about, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And burned all his shit up because he didn't want the U.S. to get it, which means they could lure Godzilla and control Godzilla. So he just burned it all up. So that was his revenge or vengeance against the U.S. And then they arrested him. So that didn't work. Yeah, but he can hold out. He don't have to make it. He already old anyway, so.
01:16:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe.
01:16:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it could lead for a third movie. But the final scene, Akiko, after them badass kids spiked, was like, them motherfuckers ain't coming back. They just tell you that shit, and they never come back, which was kind of messed up. It was. Yeah. And we don't know how long, Raj, she's been standing on that damn slide waiting for them motherfuckers to show up. They're showing in a couple different scenes later. But they showed up, man. Showed up to say goodbye. Yep. How many tears y'all shed during this last scene? This ran way too long. It did. Oh, my God. What?
01:17:29
Speaker 2: Y'all are ridiculous.
01:17:30
Speaker 1: Are y'all serious? Yes. Question, question.
01:17:34
Speaker 2: It ran long because he didn't know what it meant.
01:17:35
Speaker 1: But did you know about the magic spell thing? Mm-mm. Okay.
01:17:39
Speaker 3: See, that's why it ran long. Those motherfuckers weren't reading the damn subtitles.
01:17:43
Speaker 1: That's why.
01:17:43
Speaker 2: I'm sorry as hell.
01:17:45
Speaker 1: Because having that context of what... How does that change it? It adds to the emotional depth of the scene. Exactly.
01:17:55
Speaker 4: I'll give you the one from earlier. That did add context that I needed. This one, I still don't get it. Maybe y'all need to explain it to me a little better. Because that's what made them come back. I understand that's what made them come back. But they stayed there for a very long time hugging. Because they were wrestling with, we need to leave her. This is not the best option. The best option is to leave her here and let's go. So they're showing all of the emotional weight of her saying, have a nice trip. That's the one thing that made them be like, we can't leave her.
01:18:29
Speaker 1: I get that.
01:18:31
Speaker 2: Why do y'all think it went too long?
01:18:32
Speaker 4: Because it went too long.
01:18:36
Speaker 2: You could have said that In a little less time. It wasn't that long.
01:18:42
Speaker 3: Because I think they wanted to make the audience really think that they were going to leave her.
01:18:46
Speaker 2: That's the point. I think they wanted us to think that they were going to leave her. I did. In that moment, I was like, damn, they're really going to leave her. But I didn't need that much convincing.
01:18:57
Speaker 1: I didn't. And not that much. You know what I'm saying?
01:18:59
Speaker 2: That's a lot. That was a lot.
01:19:01
Speaker 1: Oh, man.
01:19:02
Speaker 2:
That was a lot, y'all.
01:19:03
Speaker 1: Come on. That was intentionally a lot.
01:19:06
Speaker 2: Exactly.
01:19:07
Speaker 3: That is the point we're trying to make. But I don't understand why, though. Because it was an emotional scene. It was the most emotional scene of the entire film. This girl is bawling and crying.
01:19:19
Speaker 4: And I felt it, right? It was an emotional scene. I didn't cry, but I felt it. But because it lasted so long, I was like, okay, y'all, this is enough. It's like you feel the emotion at first until now it's getting awkward.
01:19:35
Speaker 1: That's what it felt like. I guess when she actually went with him, you were so annoyed that it took so long to get there that when you finally saw her on the motorcycle, it didn't work.
01:19:47
Speaker 2: Annoyed is strong. Annoyed is strong.
01:19:49
Speaker 4: I just felt like that's just my criticism of this particular scene. I just felt like it lasted a little longer. I'm not sure if I like that creative direction.
01:19:57
Speaker 2: I don't know.
01:20:00
Speaker 1: I think because... of the length of how long it took for them to weigh the decision of leaving. Like, they really struggled with this decision, and they were actually going to do it.
01:20:14
Speaker 2: And I think, I mean, you know, I'm thinking about me.
01:20:19
Speaker 1: Like, if I know that this is the best thing for my kid, where they're going to be safe here, you know, and I have to leave them, do I really want to do this?
01:20:29
Speaker 2: And I know it's best for them. That shit was a whole short, fam.
01:20:32
Speaker 1: But I think it worked because of everything that happened in the beginning, like when, you know, oh, my God, the monster's going to get here. Don't worry, we're going to protect you. We'll always be able to protect you. We got you. And they kept reinforcing this thing over and over again. Then the magic spell. Even before the magic spell, she's sitting on the playground slide waiting.
01:20:51
Speaker 2: For them to come.
01:20:52
Speaker 1: And then they added to that her doing that as part of her routine with the have a safe trip or whatever it was. So then they add it to that. And now she's doing that and saying that as part of it. Every time they left, she said that shit. Even when they dropped off the first time. Because in her mind, this shit works. And every time she said it, it fucking worked. She said it again. It worked. They came back. After all them damn kids said, them motherfuckers not returning. They come back only to say, I gotta leave again. And she was like, what? Yeah.
01:21:27
Speaker 3: That's what made it good. is they were like, we only came back to say goodbye. And in the audience, I'm like, oh my God, they're really going to fucking do this. And the whole hugging, they're showing this kid who's a great actor, bawling and crying. And I was like, man, when they got back to the bike, I was like, oh, they're really going to leave her.
01:21:48
Speaker 2: This is heartbreaking.
01:21:51
Speaker 3: So when we do see that they came back and they ride off with her, it's an emotional like, oh, thank God. I think if they cut the scene in half, you wouldn't have even felt that.
01:22:02
Speaker 2: You would have just been like, oh, okay. They took her with them.
01:22:05
Speaker 1: Great.
01:22:05
Speaker 2: You're like, okay. Oh, my God.
01:22:09
Speaker 3: And I really think it's because they didn't know that the have a nice or have a great trip part from earlier. That's what made the scene. When she was crying and said, have a nice trip. Have a nice trip.
01:22:21
Speaker 1: Man, this shit hits so hard, man. This shit hits so.
01:22:25
Speaker 2: I'm looking around, the whole audience is like, oh my God.
01:22:28
Speaker 1: No, it is, yeah. Except you two. No. Have a nice trip. I'm ready to go. Have a nice trip.
01:22:34
Speaker 2: I'm trying to have a nice trip. Get the fuck out of this motherfucker, man.
01:22:38
Speaker 1: Is it on? God, no.
01:22:41
Speaker 4: I thought it was funny when the, I don't know what you call them, like the organizer, the orphanage.
01:22:48
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:22:49
Speaker 2: I think that's the woman from the first movie. It is, it is.
01:22:51
Speaker 1: Is that one of their sisters or something? No. No.
01:22:54
Speaker 2: Racist ass.
01:22:55
Speaker 1: Sorry.
01:22:56
Speaker 2: But she's just like, come on, baby. They about to leave.
01:22:59
Speaker 1: Yeah. Just come on back inside. You're out here crying and shit. They finna leave, yo.
01:23:05
Speaker 2: And she had him look at him like, look at him. Look at him. Oh, that part was good, too.
01:23:10
Speaker 1: So, yeah, tell me why. Why was that part?
01:23:12
Speaker 2: She was like, look at them. Make sure you look at them.
01:23:15
Speaker 1: So you'll remember their faces. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Y'all are crazy. No, no, I like to see it. I just want to bash a little on them. It also started to make what the kids said true. Yes. Because they were like, yeah, they don't come back. So they came back only to leave again and probably not ever coming back because they're going to be on the run.
01:23:32
Speaker 3: Yep.
01:23:33
Speaker 2: Oh, this part was so good.
01:23:34
Speaker 1: Because them little kids, they look like they were jealous. They were mad. They were shocked. Oh, they were jealous earlier. That this motherfucker came back. They were like, what? They were jealous earlier when she was like, yeah, you can't be that happy when you see me. She said, I'm ready to go, dad. I'm ready to go.
01:23:46
Speaker 2: I want to be with you.
01:23:47
Speaker 1: Yeah.
01:23:48
Speaker 2: They were so mad.
01:23:49
Speaker 1: They were so hot. They were so hot about that. And then when she was like, take a look at the face the last time, I was like, man, I was, yeah, it was sad. That was good. I was like, wow. But then when she, Mike, when she was like, have a nice day. have a nice trip she kept saying that shit over and over again and then she ran back and hugged her one last what I thought was one last time me too I thought it was one last hug oh my god at this point Rod I was like I'm with you get this shit over with cause they working on.
01:24:16
Speaker 6: Me Rod they working on me bro I need this shit over with cause I'm they I don't know I get softer when I get older bro I feel you and when that motherfucker was on that goddamn motorcycle I was like oh my.
01:24:29
Speaker 1: God oh it just yeah it came full circle And I was like, this is so smart.
01:24:36
Speaker 2: We said we're always going to protect you.
01:24:38
Speaker 1: And even in the scene as we wrap up, I was like, man, it probably would be better to keep her with them anyway. So I liked it. And look at her face, Spike. Man, she was just, I don't know if she was smiling or if that was the wind making her make that face.
01:24:55
Speaker 2: I was on the edge of my seat ready to leave by this time.
01:24:58
Speaker 1: Whatever, man. All right, man. Anyways. Damn, y'all.
01:25:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all ain't shit, though. Heartless.
01:25:05
Speaker 3: At this point in time.
01:25:09
Speaker 1: All right, man. That's it, man. Let us know if y'all felt that final scene in Godzilla minus zero. Let us know your thoughts on the movie, and we'll catch you guys next time.
01:25:20
Speaker 2: We out.
01:25:20
Speaker 1: Peace. Peace.