Thomas County Central, Buford, and Carrollton: Who’s No. 1 in Georgia High School Football?의 전체 녹취록

football 38 00:02:17.159 --> 00:02:19.560 team in America kind of thing. And they definitely earned it. 39 00:02:20.129 --> 00:02:21.030 But what happened, Larry? 40 00:02:23.710 --> 00:02:26.129 Well, they eventually came back down to earth. 41 00:02:26.770 --> 00:02:29.889 Exactly. Exactly. You answered it perfectly. No need to go 42 00:02:29.909 --> 00:02:32.750 any further than that. Okay. New England Patriots. 43 00:02:33.229 --> 00:02:36.669 Yeah. And what you're saying is every dynasty eventually ends. 44 00:02:37.250 --> 00:02:39.090 Yeah, you're right. I'm kind of taking it the long way. 45 00:02:39.180 --> 00:02:41.780 You're taking the shortcut. But, yeah, so to use a 46 00:02:41.879 --> 00:02:45.020 really good example, because I'm sure there were times when 47 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:49.800 the New England Patriot fans, okay, they thought that their 48 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:51.900 thing was never going to end, okay? 49 00:02:52.409 --> 00:02:53.090 That's right. 50 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:57.919 And then one day, boom, it came just crashing down. 51 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:01.419 I think they went like four and 12. And this 52 00:03:01.439 --> 00:03:06.620 was court after Brady left. And so, yeah, everything comes 53 00:03:06.680 --> 00:03:12.300 to an end. And, you know, Thomas County Central School, look, 54 00:03:12.419 --> 00:03:13.360 ain't taking anything away from them. 55 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:14.000 Yeah. 56 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:18.189 But, you know, you can expect now when things, when 57 00:03:18.210 --> 00:03:20.960 they're not winning, you're going to see probably some teams 58 00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:24.090 on the other sidelines start doing, bringing out the fire 59 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:27.610 extinguishers and, you know, and look, it may not come 60 00:03:27.669 --> 00:03:30.189 for 10 years. I mean, I'm not Thomas County central 61 00:03:30.210 --> 00:03:31.870 is the most dominant thing I've ever seen in my life. 62 00:03:32.289 --> 00:03:34.270 And I've been, I've been following high school football for 63 00:03:34.310 --> 00:03:37.330 a long time. You have to, yeah, I've never seen anything, 64 00:03:37.389 --> 00:03:41.370 what they're doing at TCC. They are the best team 65 00:03:41.689 --> 00:03:43.610 in the state of Georgia. 66 00:03:44.330 --> 00:03:48.810 So when, when you make a comment like that, it, they've, 67 00:03:49.210 --> 00:03:53.050 it's nothing like you've ever seen. Right. It's not. In 68 00:03:53.189 --> 00:03:53.949 what regard? 69 00:03:55.349 --> 00:03:56.030 Domination. 70 00:03:56.900 --> 00:03:57.240 Okay. 71 00:03:57.280 --> 00:04:02.620 The, the, the pure domination on all in all phases. Okay. 72 00:04:02.639 --> 00:04:02.860 Okay. 73 00:04:03.259 --> 00:04:07.259 Now, like they, they'd be a, a pretty good Houston 74 00:04:07.319 --> 00:04:08.000 County team. 75 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:08.930 Okay. 76 00:04:09.370 --> 00:04:11.909 But they didn't just beat them. They, they beat them 77 00:04:11.909 --> 00:04:13.590 36 to three, I think was the final. 78 00:04:14.210 --> 00:04:14.449 Right. 79 00:04:15.090 --> 00:04:18.860 Um, You know, I did the Houston County Coaches show 80 00:04:18.899 --> 00:04:21.540 this morning with Jeremy Edwards, and he said the same thing. 81 00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:23.420 He said, I've never seen anything like it. And so 82 00:04:23.439 --> 00:04:26.360 I hear that a lot with people, never seen anything 83 00:04:26.420 --> 00:04:29.740 like it. I will say this. Aiden McPherson is a 84 00:04:29.860 --> 00:04:33.660 big part of what's going on. And let me explain something. 85 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:38.360 You see the impact Aiden McPherson is having with Thomas 86 00:04:38.399 --> 00:04:39.259 County Central area. 87 00:04:39.660 --> 00:04:39.879 Right. 88 00:04:39.899 --> 00:04:43.120 Okay. Do you know where else he has impacted? 89 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:44.079 Where is that? 90 00:04:44.790 --> 00:04:50.779 Rome. Rome, yeah. Rome is absolutely lost without him. 91 00:04:52.220 --> 00:05:01.009 Sure. We've kind of stumbled on an interesting topic here, 92 00:05:01.629 --> 00:05:09.069 and that is a sports dynasty. So Central has had 93 00:05:09.829 --> 00:05:13.970 a lot of success recently. And before then, they had 94 00:05:14.029 --> 00:05:17.600 some success during Pilcher's years, but that eventually came to 95 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:21.050 an end and they went through, they went through kind of, uh, 96 00:05:21.170 --> 00:05:24.790 wandering around the football desert for a while before they 97 00:05:25.029 --> 00:05:30.350 stumbled on their, their latest, um, rise or ascent. Okay. So, 98 00:05:30.589 --> 00:05:34.310 so how many years does a team have to be 99 00:05:34.470 --> 00:05:36.939 on top before it qualifies as a dynasty? 100 00:05:38.980 --> 00:05:42.709 Yeah, I guess that's subjective. Um, um, You know what 101 00:05:42.730 --> 00:05:44.160 I mean? I mean, I think you'll probably get a 102 00:05:44.180 --> 00:05:49.240 lot of different answers from a lot of different people. Yeah, 103 00:05:49.259 --> 00:05:50.660 that's a good question. I really don't know how to 104 00:05:50.740 --> 00:05:53.040 answer that. I would say maybe a minimum of five 105 00:05:53.420 --> 00:05:58.139 years for it to be a dynasty. And I believe that, 106 00:05:59.050 --> 00:06:01.829 let's take Thomas County Central. Just try to answer your question. 107 00:06:02.490 --> 00:06:02.709 Yeah. 108 00:06:03.410 --> 00:06:04.870 So they won state championship last year. 109 00:06:05.709 --> 00:06:07.250 Sure. 110 00:06:07.370 --> 00:06:09.629 They're on their way this year. I can't see anybody 111 00:06:09.649 --> 00:06:12.790 beating them. And that's not. And that's not a slight 112 00:06:12.910 --> 00:06:17.500 on anybody. Okay, I want to make sure I understand. So, 113 00:06:17.540 --> 00:06:19.779 going back, you had last year's state championship, which was 114 00:06:19.860 --> 00:06:23.319 very

dominant. They beat a good Gainesville team by– how 115 00:06:23.339 --> 00:06:26.939 many points was it, Larry? 30, 40? 116 00:06:26.939 --> 00:06:29.480 A pretty wide margin. Four-plus touchdowns. 117 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:33.170 Yeah, and I don't want to start just going over 118 00:06:33.189 --> 00:06:35.009 and over and be redundant here, Larry. I think you 119 00:06:35.050 --> 00:06:37.209 understand what I'm saying. So, how many years– so the 120 00:06:37.250 --> 00:06:43.209 year before that, TCC– I'm trying to remember. Did they 121 00:06:43.250 --> 00:06:44.660 win the state? How many years did they win a 122 00:06:44.660 --> 00:06:45.420 state championship in a row? 123 00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:48.879 Two, maybe? 124 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:51.250 So, I'm trying to figure out who won it. 125 00:06:51.259 --> 00:06:53.060 They won two out of four, right? Two out of 126 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:54.319 the last four years, right? 127 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:57.720 I think that's right. So, last year they won it. 128 00:06:57.759 --> 00:06:58.920 The year before that. 129 00:07:01.139 --> 00:07:02.660 They didn't win it the year before that, did they? 130 00:07:03.540 --> 00:07:05.600 No, that was Langston Hughes that won it, wasn't it? 131 00:07:06.899 --> 00:07:08.339 I can't remember. But. 132 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:11.079 I don't know. I'm just jumping all over the place now. Yeah. 133 00:07:11.470 --> 00:07:14.250 Somebody help us out out there that's watching. Somebody let 134 00:07:14.290 --> 00:07:15.089 us know. Go ahead, Larry. 135 00:07:15.629 --> 00:07:20.250 We're talking about dynasties, not necessarily central. I mean, central 136 00:07:20.569 --> 00:07:23.610 is a topic that is interesting to talk about, but 137 00:07:23.629 --> 00:07:27.389 we're talking about dynasties. In the high school football world, 138 00:07:27.449 --> 00:07:33.040 it started several decades ago with Wright Baysmore at Valdosta. 139 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:36.399 That got continued by Nick Heider, right? 140 00:07:36.439 --> 00:07:36.779 That's right. 141 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:40.430 That's right. Those two would probably qualify as a dynasty. 142 00:07:40.490 --> 00:07:42.829 And at that time, that had never been done before. 143 00:07:44.949 --> 00:07:46.589 Well, not in Georgia, that is. 144 00:07:47.370 --> 00:07:50.769 Yeah. So through the years, you've had other really good 145 00:07:50.860 --> 00:07:55.100 teams to come along. You had what Rush did at 146 00:07:55.180 --> 00:08:01.860 Caldwell County was profound. Then you have what Randy McPherson 147 00:08:01.899 --> 00:08:06.300 did was profound at Lowndes. You had Marquise, was it? 148 00:08:07.540 --> 00:08:11.100 Marquise Westbrook at Warner Robins. Yep. You know, he was 149 00:08:11.180 --> 00:08:13.480 on the verge of creating a dynasty there. 150 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:16.500 Well, hold that, hold that thought, hold that thought. 151 00:08:16.540 --> 00:08:16.680 Yeah. 152 00:08:16.699 --> 00:08:20.620 Okay. Cause, cause I'm going to call, I'm going to 153 00:08:20.660 --> 00:08:25.189 call what Marquise Westbrook did at Warner Robins pretty darn 154 00:08:25.209 --> 00:08:26.689 close to a dynasty, if not one. 155 00:08:27.470 --> 00:08:30.870 Yeah. Yeah. So, so my point is when you make 156 00:08:30.910 --> 00:08:34.710 a statement like what's been, what's happening at central has 157 00:08:34.889 --> 00:08:39.250 never been done before. I would, I would make a 158 00:08:39.370 --> 00:08:45.929 counter-argument in saying what's happening at Central has happened many, 159 00:08:45.950 --> 00:08:46.870 many times before. 160 00:08:47.389 --> 00:08:50.370 Okay, let me restate that. I guess, and I'm not 161 00:08:50.389 --> 00:08:52.929 sure if I said that verbatim, when I say that 162 00:08:53.029 --> 00:08:56.090 I've never seen anything like it, and what I mean 163 00:08:56.149 --> 00:09:03.269 by that is the way, the manner they're winning games. 164 00:09:03.289 --> 00:09:07.950 I think I used the word dominance. I've never seen 165 00:09:08.450 --> 00:09:14.009 a team win games in such dominating fashion like what 166 00:09:14.049 --> 00:09:16.220 I'm seeing. That's what I mean by saying I've never 167 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:20.600 seen anything like that. Just to clarify. 168 00:09:21.960 --> 00:09:25.519 So with every– we used the word dynasty in high 169 00:09:25.539 --> 00:09:28.289 school football kind of loosely. So with every dynasty, whether 170 00:09:28.309 --> 00:09:32.409 you're talking about historical dynasties in the past like Genghis 171 00:09:32.450 --> 00:09:37.269 Khan and all those, football dynasties, it usually rests on 172 00:09:37.309 --> 00:09:41.399 the shoulders of one person. That one person comes along 173 00:09:41.500 --> 00:09:46.000 and motivates a lot of people around them. When that 174 00:09:46.100 --> 00:09:52.590 person exits the scene, then the dynasty quickly collapses. 175 00:09:53.149 --> 00:09:57.970 You're right. I've used that example many times on this 176 00:09:58.029 --> 00:10:03.740 show talking about when you see a long-time head football coach, 177 00:10:03.769 --> 00:10:05.960 a long-time meaning a coach has been at a program 178 00:10:06.279 --> 00:10:09.179 for any sustained period of time, when you see that 179 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:12.840 person leave, and I think there's a correlation there. The 180 00:10:12.879 --> 00:10:14.519 dynasty is going to come to an end, and you 181 00:10:14.539 --> 00:10:19.179 know why? Because the coach or whomever, the coach can 182 00:10:19.240 --> 00:10:22.169 see it coming. He's got the foresight. He's got the 183 00:10:22.230 --> 00:10:24.710 foresight to say, man, we're about to lose a lot 184 00:10:24.750 --> 00:10:27.149 of good players, and there's none in the pipeline. It's 185 00:10:27.190 --> 00:10:29.049 time for me to step down. So I think the 186 00:10:29.230 --> 00:10:34.149 end of a dynasty is twofold. It ends because the

187 00:10:34.289 --> 00:10:38.009 person who is the champion, and for you guys out 188 00:10:38.070 --> 00:10:41.620 there in the business world, that means the person ultimately responsible. 189 00:10:42.899 --> 00:10:46.879 So the champion of a dynasty, like what you're talking about, Larry, 190 00:10:46.940 --> 00:10:47.960 is usually the head coach, right? 191 00:10:48.419 --> 00:10:49.320 Correct. Okay. 192 00:10:49.669 --> 00:10:50.909 And I'm going to let you get back to your thought. 193 00:10:50.970 --> 00:10:53.250 I'm sorry. But it's just, you know, that's the kind 194 00:10:53.289 --> 00:10:57.679 of the way things work. When a dynasty ends, it 195 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:04.120 usually is because the person that is upholding and building 196 00:11:04.220 --> 00:11:07.480 and built that dynasty can see that it's coming to 197 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:11.080 an end. And maybe by some factors that are uncontrollable. 198 00:11:11.899 --> 00:11:12.659 But go ahead, Larry. 199 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:16.269 Yeah. And so just to round out this thought, you know, 200 00:11:16.870 --> 00:11:19.350 what Justin Rogers is doing there at Central is phenomenal. 201 00:11:19.990 --> 00:11:23.240 I'm not taking anything away. I think on this show, 202 00:11:23.289 --> 00:11:27.940 I've recognized what he's done many, many times. But eventually, 203 00:11:27.980 --> 00:11:29.679 that will come to an end. We just don't know 204 00:11:29.759 --> 00:11:33.840 when that is going to be a case. Now, let 205 00:11:34.700 --> 00:11:36.919 me give you kind of an offshoot of that thought 206 00:11:37.019 --> 00:11:42.669 is his ability to attract players is phenomenal. And I 207 00:11:42.710 --> 00:11:47.570 think that is what is sustaining that program right now. 208 00:11:47.590 --> 00:11:47.669 Yeah. 209 00:11:48.500 --> 00:11:51.730 He had a fantastic quarterback last year, and then Aiden 210 00:11:51.750 --> 00:11:59.129 McPherson transfers this year. So if you take the central 211 00:11:59.230 --> 00:12:01.980 colored glasses off for a second and you try to 212 00:12:02.100 --> 00:12:04.539 answer this question objectively that I'm about to ask you, 213 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:08.759 and that is, in the absence of Aiden McPherson, I 214 00:12:08.799 --> 00:12:12.110 know they have another good quarterback there, but what McPherson's 215 00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:14.600 been able to do this year has been phenomenal. I 216 00:12:14.620 --> 00:12:18.000 think no one can argue with that. He single-handedly won 217 00:12:18.059 --> 00:12:23.350 games for them. What he did against Lee County was fabulous. So, 218 00:12:23.909 --> 00:12:27.350 in the absence of Aiden McPherson, would Central be as 219 00:12:27.470 --> 00:12:30.379 dominant this year as they are? I would argue that 220 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:36.070 they wouldn't. And so when he eventually graduates, then Rogers 221 00:12:36.149 --> 00:12:39.210 is going to be faced with another challenge of getting 222

00:12:39.289 --> 00:12:44.549 another phenomenal signal call or playmaker. Can he sustain that? 223 00:12:44.850 --> 00:12:46.610 I don't know. I don't know. We'll just have to 224 00:12:46.649 --> 00:12:52.850 wait and see. So my point is the success they're 225 00:12:52.870 --> 00:12:57.629 having now is just off the charts. But that begins 226 00:12:57.690 --> 00:13:00.509 and ends with Justin Rogers and his ability to do 227 00:13:00.570 --> 00:13:03.049 what he's been doing now. Eventually, that's going to come 228 00:13:03.090 --> 00:13:05.070 to an end, whether he leaves the program and goes 229 00:13:05.169 --> 00:13:08.549 on to greener pastures, which I'm predicting that that's probably 230 00:13:08.570 --> 00:13:10.389 going to be sooner rather than later. I think he's 231 00:13:10.450 --> 00:13:13.190 destined for college. He's got enough talent to make a 232 00:13:13.269 --> 00:13:15.950 difference at the D1 level. That kind of could be. 233 00:13:15.970 --> 00:13:18.809 Yeah, could be. It also could be where he's completely 234 00:13:18.870 --> 00:13:23.129 satisfied with becoming. And like you used to work, it 235 00:13:23.230 --> 00:13:27.450 could be where he's completely comfortable with building and sustaining 236 00:13:27.870 --> 00:13:31.330 a high school dynasty where he's at. Now, I think 237 00:13:31.549 --> 00:13:33.399 the dollars are going to become the ultimate, and I 238 00:13:33.419 --> 00:13:34.960 think that's kind of what you're referring. 239 00:13:34.580 --> 00:13:37.000 To right there. Yeah, sustaining a program in a small 240 00:13:37.019 --> 00:13:40.720 town is one thing, but when a major university comes 241 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:43.720 and offers a position coach to a young head coach 242 00:13:43.779 --> 00:13:50.210 like Justin Rogers is and offers to pay him $ 500, 000 243 00:13:47.990 --> 00:13:48.450 a year. 244 00:13:48.620 --> 00:13:49.850 A totally different ballgame. 245 00:13:49.990 --> 00:13:52.350 That's a different conversation. 246 00:13:52.350 --> 00:13:56.909 100%. I will say this now, and I don't know, but, Larry, 247 00:13:56.929 --> 00:14:01.960 I would imagine, okay, I would imagine– In a little 248 00:14:01.980 --> 00:14:06.559 bit different times, but I would imagine that Wright Baysmore 249 00:14:06.840 --> 00:14:11.840 surely got an offer to go coach collegially. By no 250 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:15.100 means was it anywhere near the dollars that we're talking 251 00:14:15.139 --> 00:14:19.230 about now. In fact, and Johnny Holcomb is watching the show. Johnny, 252 00:14:19.250 --> 00:14:21.649 how you doing, buddy? You may know the answer to this. 253 00:14:22.110 --> 00:14:26.049 I would wonder, and we're talking percentages, right, Larry? 254 00:14:26.129 --> 00:14:26.429 Right. 255 00:14:26.529 --> 00:14:30.029 Because you've got to figure that, and I'm just guessing, 256 00:14:30.610 --> 00:14:33.990 I would think that Wright Bazemore in his heyday was 257 00:14:34.090 --> 00:14:41.750 probably making $ 50, 000, $ 60, 000, which in today's money is equivalent 258 00:14:41.769 --> 00:14:46.960 to the $ 100, 000 plus salaries that most good coaches are making. Correct? 259 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:47.360 Yeah. 260 00:14:47.539 --> 00:14:47.700 Yeah. 261 00:14:47.879 --> 00:14:48.080 Okay. 262 00:14:48.500 --> 00:14:51.679 So with that being said, I wonder what the jump 263 00:14:51.740 --> 00:14:55.460 to a college job would be. And let's face it, 264 00:14:55.860 --> 00:14:58.840 most of these, like we're talking about, you know, a 265 00:14:58.879 --> 00:14:59.559 Justin Rogers. 266 00:14:59.820 --> 00:15:00.179 Right. Yeah. 267 00:15:00.710 --> 00:15:05.289 He would probably be offered something like a, you know, 268 00:15:05.309 --> 00:15:08.269 like all the good high school quality coaches are. 269 00:15:08.590 --> 00:15:08.769 Yeah. 270 00:15:08.870 --> 00:15:11.970 Something along the lines of a quality control. That's what 271 00:15:12.049 --> 00:15:14.110 Mickey Kahn at Grayson was offered. 272 00:15:14.370 --> 00:15:14.669 Okay. 273 00:15:15.470 --> 00:15:18.549 Jeff Heron at Camden. We know all the success that 274 00:15:18.570 --> 00:15:22.840 Jeff Heron had. Jeff Heron now was offered. He was 275 00:15:22.899 --> 00:15:26.620 a position coach with, I believe it was Middle Tennessee State. 276 00:15:26.799 --> 00:15:27.200 Right, right. 277 00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:30.289 Tennessee State, one of the two, okay? But my point 278 00:15:30.330 --> 00:15:33.950 being that it's a pretty big jump to try to 279 00:15:34.110 --> 00:15:39.490 attain a coordinator is what I'm saying. You saw our 280 00:15:39.509 --> 00:15:44.100 guy at Gainesville. Help me out. I don't know why 281 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:45.960 I cannot remember his name. I did a coach show 282 00:15:45.980 --> 00:15:46.759 with him for three years. 283 00:15:48.419 --> 00:15:53.720 Oh, shoot. How quickly we forget. 284 00:15:53.980 --> 00:15:55.080 Niblet, I know. 285 00:15:55.120 --> 00:15:55.879 Niblet, yeah. 286 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:59.259 Let me tell you what happens, Larry. Yeah. For whatever reason, 287 00:16:00.100 --> 00:16:05.779 when I start thinking, I picture Coach Niblet, Josh Niblet, 288 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:15.429 my brain starts identifying Jeff Littleton. So, Josh Niblet, Jeff Littleton. 289 00:16:15.450 --> 00:16:17.929 See what I'm saying there? So, I get a little confused. Anyway, 290 00:16:18.149 --> 00:16:22.950 so Littleton, as great a coach as he is, was offered, 291 00:16:22.970 --> 00:16:25.769 and he's the tight ends coach at Colorado. I believe 292 00:16:25.789 --> 00:16:29.350 he's the tight ends coach. Now, So, Rush Post. We 293 00:16:29.450 --> 00:16:34.029 all know the infamous story of Rush talking to Nick Saban. 294 00:16:35.049 --> 00:16:39.809 And Nick Saban is prepared to offer Rush a pretty 295 00:16:39.909 --> 00:16:45.470 high-quality job. And I think that might have been, like, 296 00:16:46.129 -->

00:16:47.129 coordinator-type stuff. 297 00:16:47.470 --> 00:16:47.690 Yeah. 298 00:16:48.090 --> 00:16:52.120 Because Rush's success was really off the charts. Would you 299 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:52.960 agree with that, Larry? 300 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:54.000 Oh, absolutely. 301 00:16:54.620 --> 00:17:00.139 And it was Alabama. Alabama's kind of their own little world. 302 00:17:00.500 --> 00:17:03.519 You know, it was Nick Saban in Alabama. You've got 303 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:06.980 the king of high school football in Alabama. It's Rush Probst. 304 00:17:07.220 --> 00:17:10.140 It's Nick Saban, the best at what they do. And 305 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:12.299 I think it was going to be something sky high. 306 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:15.200 We all know, of course, now what brought that down. 307 00:17:15.380 --> 00:17:17.880 No need to rehash that. But I think, you know, 308 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:22.940 it's interesting. How long do you think a Justin Rogers– 309 00:17:23.450 --> 00:17:26.029 would be willing to stay at Thomas County Central? And 310 00:17:26.049 --> 00:17:27.769 I'll turn that around and give you a second question, Larry. 311 00:17:28.970 --> 00:17:32.450 What would Thomas County Central be willing to do to 312 00:17:32.490 --> 00:17:35.670 keep Justin Rogers? Would he become the highest-paid coach in 313 00:17:35.690 --> 00:17:39.910 the state, which would exceed what Joey King makes at Carrollton? 314 00:17:41.299 --> 00:17:44.700 Well, I don't know. We're going to find out soon. 315 00:17:45.299 --> 00:17:47.200 If he wins another state championship this year, and it 316 00:17:47.240 --> 00:17:49.920 looks like he's destined to do that, we're going to 317 00:17:49.960 --> 00:17:54.400 find out very, very quickly because– Shortly after a state championship, 318 00:17:54.700 --> 00:17:58.309 head coaches are known to get a pretty good bump 319 00:17:58.470 --> 00:18:02.470 in salary, that kind of stuff, as they deserve that. 320 00:18:03.710 --> 00:18:06.910 Will they make him the highest paid coach? You're talking 321 00:18:07.029 --> 00:18:13.690 north of $ 225 a year now. Then you start to 322 00:18:13.730 --> 00:18:17.509 project that out. Let's assume for a second, let's say 323 00:18:17.529 --> 00:18:20.819 he gets to $ 225, and then Is he going to 324 00:18:20.859 --> 00:18:22.319 stay at 225 forever? 325 00:18:22.420 --> 00:18:22.599 No. 326 00:18:22.859 --> 00:18:26.740 He expects raises after that. So if you just adjust 327 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:31.069 for a normal cost of living allowances, let's say just 328 00:18:31.089 --> 00:18:34.589 a measly 3%, 3% of 225 is a lot of money. 329 00:18:35.769 --> 00:18:38.970 And so now you're starting to compound that every single year. 330 00:18:39.029 --> 00:18:43.589 How long can Central sustain that kind of salary level? 331 00:18:43.950 --> 00:18:46.990 I don't know the answer to that, but I wouldn't 332 00:18:47.049 --> 00:18:52.069 imagine it's going to be long term.

So they got 333 00:18:52.089 --> 00:18:54.849 a lot of questions to answer over there if they 334 00:18:55.089 --> 00:18:58.029 continue to have the success that they're doing. And this 335 00:18:58.069 --> 00:19:01.670 conversation is not necessarily all about Rogers and Central. This 336 00:19:01.730 --> 00:19:06.049 is what all successful programs go through. They have to 337 00:19:06.210 --> 00:19:08.579 answer tough questions because ultimately, at the end of the day, 338 00:19:08.589 --> 00:19:11.869 these are public schools, and they're accountable to taxpayers, and 339 00:19:11.910 --> 00:19:15.170 they're going to start asking their questions like, is someone 340 00:19:15.210 --> 00:19:17.759 worth $ 2. 25 a year? I bet you they're asking that 341 00:19:17.819 --> 00:19:18.519 now up in Carrollton. 342 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:24.000 Well, look, and let me just share with you all something. Okay, 343 00:19:24.980 --> 00:19:29.420 I can promise you that schools like to win. 344 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:31.279 Yeah. 345 00:19:31.779 --> 00:19:37.799 Just stay with me here. Alabama decided that Nick Saban 346 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:42.859 was worth every penny that he was going to be paid, 347 00:19:43.460 --> 00:19:46.680 not only because of what he did with the athletics, 348 00:19:47.160 --> 00:19:47.769 with the football team. 349 00:19:49.359 --> 00:19:49.599 Sure. 350 00:19:50.700 --> 00:19:56.220 Do you know that Alabama's enrollment increased? It was diabolical 351 00:19:56.930 --> 00:20:02.849 how much Alabama's overall student enrollment increased during Nick Saban's tenure. 352 00:20:03.009 --> 00:20:06.579 Why is that? Because everybody wanted to go to Alabama 353 00:20:06.619 --> 00:20:09.619 University to be associated with a winner. Hey, where do 354 00:20:09.640 --> 00:20:11.180 you go to college at? Oh, I'm at the University 355 00:20:11.220 --> 00:20:14.859 of Alabama. Roll Tide. And I'm talking about people that 356 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:20.509 never– girls, co-eds, and, of course, guys. Not athletic, not athletes, 357 00:20:20.549 --> 00:20:26.309 not student-athletes, but students. So Alabama noticed and decided, and Larry, 358 00:20:26.549 --> 00:20:30.710 they made the business decision that it is worth every 359 00:20:30.789 --> 00:20:34.930 penny to pay Nick Saban because– A rising tide lifts 360 00:20:34.970 --> 00:20:38.069 all boats in this case, the rising tide being the 361 00:20:38.109 --> 00:20:41.089 University of Alabama, the winning football team, and it raised 362 00:20:41.490 --> 00:20:44.630 everybody up. And can you imagine, and I would love 363 00:20:44.650 --> 00:20:46.880 to do the math on this sometime, and I'm about 364 00:20:46.890 --> 00:20:49.200 to make another correlation here, so stay with me. I 365 00:20:49.220 --> 00:20:52.359 would love to do the math on this. I would 366 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:55.200 love to know, and I'm sure there's some economic professor 367 00:20:55.220 --> 00:20:58.299 somewhere that's got this. I would love to know how 368 00:20:58.440 --> 00:21:03.930 much The increase in enrollment overall, student enrollment at Alabama University, 369 00:21:04.250 --> 00:21:09.509 how much of that compensated for and offset the additional money, 370 00:21:09.930 --> 00:21:12.690 the overall salary that Nick Saban was paid? I think 371 00:21:12.710 --> 00:21:15.759 that would be pretty interesting to find out. Now, let 372 00:21:15.779 --> 00:21:21.460 me say this. The difference is, as much as a 373 00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:25.890 high school football program loves to win, Larry, and I 374 00:21:25.950 --> 00:21:29.140 think you probably know this as well, if not more 375 00:21:29.180 --> 00:21:31.640 than me, because you kind of dig into this side 376 00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:32.440 of it more than me. 377 00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:33.099 Sure. 378 00:21:33.539 --> 00:21:35.839 And I'm not speaking of TCC. I'm just talking about 379 00:21:35.859 --> 00:21:36.680 in general. 380 00:21:37.019 --> 00:21:38.880 Yeah. 381 00:21:38.960 --> 00:21:44.380 The love for winning, the love for a winning football program, 382 00:21:45.839 --> 00:21:50.019 believe it or not, is not always shared with the 383 00:21:50.079 --> 00:21:52.400 same sentiment with board members. 384 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:53.660 Correct. 385 00:21:55.309 --> 00:21:58.670 Than it is the general fan base. Do you understand 386 00:21:58.690 --> 00:22:00.190 what I'm saying, Larry? And do you agree with that? 387 00:22:00.890 --> 00:22:07.109 Yeah. Cause every, every community, every board of education is different, right? 388 00:22:07.170 --> 00:22:10.019 So they're all, they all rep, they're all elected officials 389 00:22:10.099 --> 00:22:14.619 and they represent different constituencies within a community. Right. And 390 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:17.059 so that's why it's so unique. The pillars that we 391 00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:21.640 talked about last week and the weeks before, one of 392 00:22:21.660 --> 00:22:26.880 those pillars was the administration of, being completely bought in, 393 00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:29.170 all in, all on board, right? And that includes the 394 00:22:29.210 --> 00:22:31.589 Board of Education. And if you have one or more 395 00:22:31.809 --> 00:22:36.609 members that serves as a poison pill to a football program, really, shoot, 396 00:22:37.829 --> 00:22:42.069 your athletic program, I should say, overall, then that really 397 00:22:42.150 --> 00:22:48.220 threatens the resource foundation of these athletic programs. And so 398 00:22:48.660 --> 00:22:52.569 for whatever reason, you have a Sometimes you have quarreling 399 00:22:52.609 --> 00:22:57.049 board members that have different agendas, right? Different constituencies they're 400 00:22:57.089 --> 00:23:00.890 trying to prove, kind of appease, if you will. So 401 00:23:00.930 --> 00:23:03.200 if you have one or more that's going against your 402 00:23:03.359 -->

00:23:08.180 football program, then you're destined for trouble. And so now, 403 00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:11.480 does that happen at Central? I don't think so. There's 404 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:14.500 no evidence of that. It seems like they're all rowing 405 00:23:14.539 --> 00:23:18.339 in the same direction now. But here's the deal. Winning 406 00:23:19.059 --> 00:23:26.049 covers a lot of stuff, right? Winning helps everything and 407 00:23:26.180 --> 00:23:30.210 covers up a lot of stuff. So when you have 408 00:23:30.250 --> 00:23:33.670 a program that is winning as much as Lowndes was 409 00:23:33.730 --> 00:23:37.490 back in the 2000s or Camden or Central right now, 410 00:23:38.430 --> 00:23:44.619 you may have board members or other stakeholders that choose 411 00:23:44.660 --> 00:23:48.470 to remain quiet. Because everybody's winning and no one wants 412 00:23:48.509 --> 00:23:51.890 to hear from the naysayers, right? But when a crack 413 00:23:51.930 --> 00:23:55.150 in the foundation starts to show itself or you have 414 00:23:55.630 --> 00:23:58.210 a year or two with no state championship and you 415 00:23:58.250 --> 00:24:00.589 might get bounced into the second round or third round, 416 00:24:01.089 --> 00:24:04.369 that's when the naysayer voices start to kind of get 417 00:24:04.390 --> 00:24:06.690 a little bit louder. And that's when you really start 418 00:24:06.710 --> 00:24:09.710 to see if everyone's rowing in the same direction or not. 419 00:24:10.250 --> 00:24:13.630 Central appears to be all in right now, but only 420 00:24:13.710 --> 00:24:15.549 time will tell. Okay. 421 00:24:16.069 --> 00:24:23.559 So now let me say something here. All right. You know, 422 00:24:23.660 --> 00:24:27.420 ITG Next, we do a lot of things. You know, 423 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:32.160 we've done videos with different high schools, right? We've done, 424 00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:36.410 you know, we've worked with Victory Insoles to give high 425 00:24:36.450 --> 00:24:41.069 school athletic teams free insoles. Y'all may know about that. 426 00:24:41.130 --> 00:24:45.200 And my point being that we have worked with, pretty 427 00:24:45.259 --> 00:24:46.640 closely with a lot of boards. 428 00:24:47.220 --> 00:24:47.400 Yeah. 429 00:24:48.619 --> 00:24:51.009 And I can tell you without going into specifics, I 430 00:24:51.029 --> 00:24:54.490 would never do that, but I can tell you, and 431 00:24:54.529 --> 00:24:57.230 this was kind of why my opening comment about this 432 00:24:57.269 --> 00:25:00.809 subject was what it is, because I can tell you 433 00:25:00.910 --> 00:25:07.470 hearing it from board members that not everybody's always crazy. Again, 434 00:25:07.630 --> 00:25:10.779 like I said earlier about our winning high school, not 435 00:25:10.819 --> 00:25:13.119 that they dislike it. I'm not, that's what I'm not saying. 436 00:25:13.559 --> 00:25:17.960 But you would be amazed. Okay. And let me explain 437 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:19.480 what I think it is. I think in a lot 438 00:25:19.500 --> 00:25:24.119 of cases, you've got board members who feel like it's 439 00:25:24.180 --> 00:25:28.799 kind of an intrusion on their, what's the word I 440 00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:33.490 want to use here? Superiority feels a little harsh, but 441 00:25:34.230 --> 00:25:37.549 do you understand why I want to use that? Sort 442 00:25:37.569 --> 00:25:40.950 of the natural order of things. 443 00:25:41.750 --> 00:25:42.150 Their turf. 444 00:25:42.170 --> 00:25:45.700 Okay. That's right. That's right. The board is like, hey, 445 00:25:46.480 --> 00:25:48.309 and again, I'm not talking about any specific school. I 446 00:25:48.309 --> 00:25:50.430 don't want anybody to think. I'm just using this as 447 00:25:50.470 --> 00:25:54.289 a hypothetical. By God, I'm a board member here, and 448 00:25:54.349 --> 00:25:56.849 there's no high school football coach going to get the 449 00:25:56.890 --> 00:26:00.049 best of me. We dictate what goes on. You see 450 00:26:00.069 --> 00:26:02.539 what I'm saying? And that mentality, Larry, and I know 451 00:26:02.579 --> 00:26:06.079 you know this, that mentality is pretty prevalent with a 452 00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:10.799 lot of board members. There's a certain feeling of power. 453 00:26:11.420 --> 00:26:14.619 It comes with being– because they do make very important decisions, right? 454 00:26:16.420 --> 00:26:17.319 Yeah, absolutely. 455 00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:20.319 So, again, my point is, and I don't want to 456 00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:25.049 belittle the point, but it's– you would be surprised of 457 00:26:25.109 --> 00:26:30.789 how much disagreement and dissension there is between boards and 458 00:26:31.329 --> 00:26:34.509 the outcome of the high school football program. And, again, 459 00:26:34.609 --> 00:26:37.890 I've just seen it at a lot of different schools, okay? Yeah. And, again, 460 00:26:37.970 --> 00:26:40.529 I have no idea, no earthly idea. I don't want 461 00:26:40.609 --> 00:26:42.890 anybody to come away with this thinking that, well, Phil 462 00:26:42.930 --> 00:26:46.230 said this. I'm just saying that, you know, sometimes even 463 00:26:46.250 --> 00:26:48.869 when you're dominating in high school football, you've got everything 464 00:26:48.890 --> 00:26:50.670 going for you. Look, at Thomas County Central, not only 465 00:26:50.690 --> 00:26:52.890 have they got the great football program, they've got some 466 00:26:52.910 --> 00:26:55.539 of the most amazing facilities in the state now. 467 00:26:55.910 --> 00:26:56.470 Right, right. 468 00:26:56.710 --> 00:27:00.660 So there is a perception that, hey, man, everything is cool, 469 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:03.779 and it is. They're playing football unlike anything I've ever seen. 470 00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:04.440 I've talked about that before. 471 00:27:04.460 --> 00:27:04.579 Right. 472 00:27:05.210 --> 00:27:08.029 It's just going to be interesting. Things can change

in 473 00:27:08.069 --> 00:27:11.089 a hurry. They may not. But as far as the 474 00:27:11.130 --> 00:27:14.240 subject of Rodgers, how long would he stay? I think 475 00:27:14.299 --> 00:27:17.259 it's natural for TCC fans to assume, oh, man, he's 476 00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:20.980 going to be here forever. But I'm sure Coach Rodgers 477 00:27:21.019 --> 00:27:26.460 has goals, and I'm sure he has financial goals for 478 00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:31.109 he and his family. And that means by having a 479 00:27:31.150 --> 00:27:34.329 better life, a better home, send your kids to the 480 00:27:34.390 --> 00:27:36.529 best universities. You see what I'm saying? 481 00:27:36.910 --> 00:27:37.130 Yeah. 482 00:27:37.250 --> 00:27:39.930 So you've got to always remember that what your goals 483 00:27:40.049 --> 00:27:43.819 is as a fan is not always going to be 484 00:27:43.930 --> 00:27:46.940 what the, the gentleman who's coaching school and guys, this 485 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:49.700 is all hypothetical. You could apply it to any coach. 486 00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:52.539 We just happen to be talking about TCC because, because 487 00:27:52.579 --> 00:27:54.240 Justin Rogers has come in there and I mean, he 488 00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:57.119 has blown it out of the water. 489 00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:59.619 He does a good job, man. We, we have bragged 490 00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:02.049 on that guy dudes so much on this show. It's, 491 00:28:02.849 --> 00:28:05.710 You can't accuse us of being haters because we love Central. 492 00:28:05.730 --> 00:28:08.670 We talk about them all the time. Hold on real quick. 493 00:28:09.049 --> 00:28:10.509 Look at David Woods, and I'm going to let you 494 00:28:10.529 --> 00:28:12.490 finish your sentence, but I think David Woods hits it 495 00:28:12.529 --> 00:28:16.640 right on the head. David Woods' comment, talking about the 496 00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:20.460 disagreement sometimes between board members and athletic programs. David Woods 497 00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:23.359 says yes, and I'm going to paraphrase David a little 498 00:28:23.380 --> 00:28:25.440 bit so everybody can understand what he's saying in the 499 00:28:25.500 --> 00:28:29.069 context he's using this. David Wood says, yep. And usually 500 00:28:29.170 --> 00:28:32.549 that dissension comes from a board member and their son 501 00:28:32.609 --> 00:28:33.150 not playing. 502 00:28:33.849 --> 00:28:34.829 That's right. That's right. 503 00:28:34.990 --> 00:28:35.670 Go ahead, Larry. 504 00:28:36.349 --> 00:28:41.109 So Obadiah has an interesting question based on a comment 505 00:28:41.130 --> 00:28:44.210 that I made. He says, LG, if TCC doesn't win 506 00:28:44.259 --> 00:28:47.099 the state championship this year, do you think the cracks 507 00:28:47.140 --> 00:28:49.980 will start to show? I'm going to answer that in 508 00:28:50.019 --> 00:28:54.480 a generic way and base my answer or apply my 509 00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:59.039 answer to all programs.

OK, not just TCC. Whenever you 510 00:28:59.099 --> 00:29:03.400 win a state championship, based on my observation of football 511 00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:06.400 programs in the state of Georgia, really all over the place. 512 00:29:08.420 --> 00:29:13.880 A state championship buys you three years of grace. So 513 00:29:14.019 --> 00:29:17.799 will cracks show immediately after a year where you don't 514 00:29:17.819 --> 00:29:21.039 win a state championship? No, none at all. Will it 515 00:29:21.089 --> 00:29:24.670 show the second year if you don't win? No. By 516 00:29:24.710 --> 00:29:26.630 the end of the third year, if you don't win 517 00:29:26.690 --> 00:29:29.799 or at least go deep into the playoffs, that's when 518 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:35.240 cracks start to show in the foundation. So every time 519 00:29:35.289 --> 00:29:37.529 you win a state championship, it buys you at least 520 00:29:37.630 --> 00:29:41.470 three years of grace. That's just based on what I've 521 00:29:41.509 --> 00:29:46.390 seen over the years. What Rodgers has been able to 522 00:29:46.430 --> 00:29:50.230 do at Central, winning multiple state championships, he's got probably 523 00:29:50.289 --> 00:29:53.930 three plus years, maybe even four years of grace where 524 00:29:54.210 --> 00:29:58.700 everybody is happy and You don't win the state championship 525 00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:01.160 this year. They're still slapping you on the back saying, coach, 526 00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:05.240 go get them next year. We're behind you 100%. Because 527 00:30:05.339 --> 00:30:10.119 here's the, guys, here's the reality of whether it's high 528 00:30:10.140 --> 00:30:13.400 school football in the state of Georgia or what Kirby 529 00:30:13.420 --> 00:30:15.880 Smart is doing at Georgia or what Kalen DeBoer is 530 00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:19.609 doing at Alabama. Just pick your coach and your program. 531 00:30:20.950 --> 00:30:24.910 It's still a business. And with business, people want results. 532 00:30:25.509 --> 00:30:30.299 You're board of directors your board of education and ultimately 533 00:30:30.339 --> 00:30:33.259 your customers and in the high school football your customers 534 00:30:33.420 --> 00:30:40.170 are your fan base and those customers support your uh 535 00:30:40.950 --> 00:30:44.650 middle tier stakeholders and those are the businesses in your 536 00:30:44.690 --> 00:30:48.970 community so when you don't satisfy the customers those customers 537 00:30:48.990 --> 00:30:52.410 start grumbling to the the money bag the money men 538 00:30:52.430 --> 00:30:55.400 in the community And those money men start grumbling to 539 00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:57.859 the board of education members. Those are your board of directors. 540 00:30:58.319 --> 00:31:02.019 And then those board of directors start saying what's going on. 541 00:31:02.700 --> 00:31:05.750 That kind of stuff. So three years is usually the 542 00:31:06.069 --> 00:31:07.700 grace period that a championship gets you. 543 00:31:07.710 --> 00:31:09.589 All right, we're going to roll on here. Got a 544 00:31:09.609 --> 00:31:12.569 lot of stuff to cover. Obviously, Friday night, how about 545 00:31:12.589 --> 00:31:16.150 the weather impacting games across the state? A lot of 546 00:31:16.170 --> 00:31:19.470 games were moved up to Thursday. A couple of things, 547 00:31:19.569 --> 00:31:21.410 of course, I'm going to teach a secret. There are 548 00:31:21.430 --> 00:31:23.970 some other teams that are looking pretty stout. Real quick, 549 00:31:23.990 --> 00:31:25.710 a couple of comments I want to mention. We've got 550 00:31:26.109 --> 00:31:32.029 Eric Evans. Good evening, Phil and gang. Checking in from Columbus, Ohio. 551 00:31:32.410 --> 00:31:35.890 I love these kind of messages, man. Go Ware County Gators. 552 00:31:35.990 --> 00:31:37.910 Eric Evans, thanks so much for checking out. I guess 553 00:31:37.930 --> 00:31:41.240 you are a big Ohio State fan, just assuming that. 554 00:31:41.299 --> 00:31:43.680 But let us know, brother. And Eric, thank you so much, man, 555 00:31:43.700 --> 00:31:47.160 for checking out the show from Ohio, Columbus, Ohio. I 556 00:31:47.180 --> 00:31:49.720 love that. And folks wanting to get a little bit 557 00:31:49.740 --> 00:31:52.160 of college football talking here. Who saw Bama go down 558 00:31:52.180 --> 00:31:54.619 on the dogs? Actually I did. I thought, I thought Georgia, 559 00:31:54.940 --> 00:31:57.079 everybody was talking about Georgia was an underdog, this and that. 560 00:31:57.119 --> 00:31:58.940 I didn't think so. I thought Georgia was, was the 561 00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:01.599 team to beat. And they actually, they actually, by the way, 562 00:32:01.980 --> 00:32:05.490 in case you guys missed it, Buford fans had a 563 00:32:05.630 --> 00:32:13.329 lot to be proud of. You had, um, oh man, 564 00:32:13.390 --> 00:32:15.869 what's my guy's name? Kerry Clayton, uh, Kerry Claiborne, help 565 00:32:15.890 --> 00:32:17.759 me out, man. I got, I got you right here 566 00:32:17.779 --> 00:32:21.970 on the string, Kerry. Um, Yo, man, what's his name? Boogie. 567 00:32:22.069 --> 00:32:26.009 Go Boogie. What's his name, man? Boogie Green. Ty Boogie Green. 568 00:32:27.130 --> 00:32:32.920 Did y'all see him showing out? Not only him, but 569 00:32:33.019 --> 00:32:38.240 the gentleman who graduated the year before. Man, I can't 570 00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:41.539 believe I can't remember their names. Somebody help me out here. 571 00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:46.240 But it was a big Buford representation in that Georgia 572 00:32:46.299 --> 00:32:53.119 defensive backfield game. God damn it. Who was that? Somebody else. 573 00:32:53.140 --> 00:32:54.210 You guys got to help me out. Let me see. 574 00:32:54.240 --> 00:32:56.000 Let me get caught up here on my comments, and 575 00:32:56.019 --> 00:32:59.319 we'll see who it is here. K.J. Bolden. Thank you. 576 00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:02.980 Thank you,

K.J. Bolden. Kerry and Larry Pope. What's up, Larry? 577 00:33:03.309 --> 00:33:04.690 Both got it. Larry, did you watch the game? 578 00:33:06.490 --> 00:33:06.970 Which game? 579 00:33:06.990 --> 00:33:10.470 Georgia? Yeah, that's what we're talking about. Yeah. 580 00:33:10.910 --> 00:33:12.329 Well, sometimes we're talking about Georgia. 581 00:33:12.349 --> 00:33:12.690 I got you. 582 00:33:12.750 --> 00:33:16.130 It's okay. Central, Buford. Yeah, I did watch Georgia. It 583 00:33:16.150 --> 00:33:18.299 was fantastic. I actually went back and watched it a 584 00:33:18.339 --> 00:33:20.440 second time on replay. Yeah. 585 00:33:20.460 --> 00:33:25.700 So Georgia, uh, again, did you guys see KJ, uh, 586 00:33:25.769 --> 00:33:30.289 KJ Bolden? And again, uh, Todd Boogie Green, man, we're 587 00:33:30.329 --> 00:33:34.990 just dominant. And let me say this, Georgia, and I 588 00:33:35.029 --> 00:33:38.319 love this. Georgia is not afraid. Kirby is not afraid. 589 00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:44.160 In fact, I answered a tweet today. Um, gosh, man, 590 00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:47.829 I'm drawing a blank on names anyway. Um, answered a 591 00:33:47.829 --> 00:33:51.049 tweet today that basically was talking about how Kirby Smart 592 00:33:51.130 --> 00:33:54.450 is not afraid to play freshmen. And Larry, this is 593 00:33:54.470 --> 00:33:55.990 something I want to talk about on the last part 594 00:33:56.210 --> 00:33:59.970 of my talking points here. So you've got all these 595 00:34:00.109 --> 00:34:06.970 freshmen out here. You've got another Buford, now a freshman, 596 00:34:07.170 --> 00:34:11.380 up at Ohio State. Gosh, he was a defensive end 597 00:34:11.420 --> 00:34:13.480 for Buford. You're going to have to help me out 598 00:34:13.500 --> 00:34:17.349 with all this. But all of these freshmen, from Georgia, 599 00:34:17.530 --> 00:34:20.809 from the state of Georgia, high school football, are absolutely 600 00:34:21.530 --> 00:34:24.909 playing lights out. You've got last year's running back at 601 00:34:24.949 --> 00:34:28.869 Thomas County Central is up at Wake Forest running lights out. 602 00:34:29.329 --> 00:34:31.190 By the way, too, he's not a true freshman. I 603 00:34:31.210 --> 00:34:33.489 think he may be a registered freshman. But you guys 604 00:34:33.550 --> 00:34:37.050 remember Bo Walker from Cedar Grove, Larry? You remember him? 605 00:34:37.380 --> 00:34:37.570 Yeah. 606 00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:43.019 Oh, my gosh. He was actually coming in spelling in 607 00:34:43.059 --> 00:34:45.639 relief of the starting running back for the University of Georgia, 608 00:34:46.110 --> 00:34:49.369 But Bo Walker, it's fun watching these guys in high 609 00:34:49.389 --> 00:34:52.550 school in Georgia and then seeing them go out and 610 00:34:52.730 --> 00:34:56.730 dominate under the big lights on Saturday night. Anyway, Kirby 611 00:34:56.769 --> 00:34:58.889 Smart was talking about, hey, we're not afraid to play 612 00:34:59.530 --> 00:35:03.429 these high school freshmen. And you know what I said 613 00:35:03.489 --> 00:35:10.409 in response to that? You've got the confidence in these 614 00:35:10.550 --> 00:35:13.519 players that, Because of the great– and it kind of 615 00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:15.280 circles back to what we were just talking about. Because 616 00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:18.920 of the great coaching they received in Georgia, Larry. 617 00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:19.159 Yeah. 618 00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:20.360 You follow me? 619 00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:21.360 I do. I do. 620 00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:24.639 So you've got all of these great freshmen. Why is 621 00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:27.500 Kirby Smart, Larry, not afraid to play them? Because he 622 00:35:27.539 --> 00:35:30.219 knows they've got some of the great– the best coaching 623 00:35:31.590 --> 00:35:36.170 of anywhere in the country right here in Georgia in 624 00:35:36.210 --> 00:35:40.150 their high school football coaches. How about that? We've come 625 00:35:40.210 --> 00:35:41.449 full circle in this conversation. 626 00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:44.039 Yeah. 627 00:35:44.619 --> 00:35:46.940 Andrew Houston is the one. Oh, so he's a sophomore 628 00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:49.519 at Ohio State, not a freshman, but still pretty close. 629 00:35:49.539 --> 00:35:53.039 Go ahead, Larry. Yeah, so what I'll say about the 630 00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:55.579 freshman play on George was amazing. You know, you got 631 00:35:55.960 --> 00:36:01.679 two– you're starting running back and then his close number 632 00:36:01.739 --> 00:36:06.789 two go down in Chauncey Bowens and what's the other 633 00:36:06.809 --> 00:36:10.929 dude's name? Can't remember. Starting running back for Georgia. Well, 634 00:36:10.949 --> 00:36:12.980 both of them go down. Okay, so due to injury. 635 00:36:13.539 --> 00:36:16.139 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 636 00:36:16.539 --> 00:36:20.340 So then you got two freshmen, and they do a 637 00:36:20.380 --> 00:36:25.000 phenomenal job. And this kid, they call him Peanut Phillips, 638 00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:26.489 Dwight Phillips. 639 00:36:27.909 --> 00:36:28.969 Yes, Dwight Phillips, that's right. 640 00:36:28.989 --> 00:36:31.389 Being as small as he is, being able to– everyone 641 00:36:31.429 --> 00:36:34.250 knew that he has speed, but being able to run 642 00:36:34.329 --> 00:36:39.010 between the tackles as effectively as he did against Alabama, 643 00:36:39.329 --> 00:36:44.730 one of the best– run defenses in college football was phenomenal. 644 00:36:45.130 --> 00:36:48.909 But here's what I'll say about that. Talent pushes talent, right? 645 00:36:49.670 --> 00:36:54.280 Teams like University of Georgia, Alabama, and the like, they 646 00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:57.000 get the cream of the crop out there, and they 647 00:36:57.039 --> 00:36:59.619 are all superstars coming out of high school, and they 648 00:36:59.699 --> 00:37:03.159 push each other. Case in point is Jay Lamar is 649 00:37:03.219 -->

00:37:06.070 on that roster as well. Jay Lamar, former. 650 00:37:05.849 --> 00:37:07.090 Running back at Carleton County. 651 00:37:07.630 --> 00:37:11.969 He's on that Georgia running back. And I was surprised 652 00:37:12.010 --> 00:37:16.050 to see that he didn't make that roster traveling to 653 00:37:16.170 --> 00:37:19.210 Alabama because he was beat out by these two other guys. 654 00:37:20.309 --> 00:37:22.309 And when you mentioned Dwight Phillips, but again, I want 655 00:37:22.329 --> 00:37:25.349 to make sure everybody understands, Bo Walker came in spelling 656 00:37:25.550 --> 00:37:26.949 Dwight Phillips the other night. 657 00:37:27.150 --> 00:37:27.389 Yeah. 658 00:37:27.969 --> 00:37:32.199 And you want to talk about two spark plugs? And Larry, 659 00:37:32.219 --> 00:37:35.079 it goes to your point. Jay Lamar couldn't make the 660 00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:38.440 travel squad because you had these two guys. I mean, 661 00:37:38.699 --> 00:37:42.480 if you're a Georgia fan, this might be the best 662 00:37:43.260 --> 00:37:46.940 collective talent. I'm not talking about– I'm talking about to 663 00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:48.679 each one. It's kind of one of these deals where, 664 00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.760 you know, the running back room at Georgia is greater 665 00:37:52.820 --> 00:37:53.920 than the sum of its parts. 666 00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:56.900 That's right. That's right. And there's a part two to 667 00:37:56.940 --> 00:37:57.800 that answer as well. 668 00:37:57.840 --> 00:37:58.119 Go ahead. 669 00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:02.510 I think coaches like Kirby are getting smarter and smarter 670 00:38:02.619 --> 00:38:05.860 in the era of of NIL and the transfer portal, 671 00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:09.710 meaning that if he sees talent there early, he's got 672 00:38:09.750 --> 00:38:12.829 to find a way to get them involved in the program. Otherwise, 673 00:38:12.909 --> 00:38:14.570 they're going to transfer. That's right. 674 00:38:14.710 --> 00:38:16.070 That's right. All right, I want to go to some 675 00:38:16.130 --> 00:38:22.769 questions here. Hey, Phil Jones, encourage everyone to share the live. 676 00:38:22.789 --> 00:38:26.190 We just did, buddy. Thank you for that open eye. 677 00:38:26.449 --> 00:38:29.710 Johnny Holcomb, by the way, comes up with something, and 678 00:38:29.789 --> 00:38:34.030 I did not realize this. Johnny Holcomb says, look ahead 679 00:38:34.070 --> 00:38:37.409 to the Wintersville Classic. It has the potential for the 680 00:38:37.469 --> 00:38:40.369 first time in series history. Larry, I did not know this. 681 00:38:40.829 --> 00:38:43.480 Has the first time, potential for the first time in 682 00:38:43.539 --> 00:38:46.840 series history where both teams will be coming in undefeated 683 00:38:46.900 --> 00:38:51.340 at 9-0. A lot of business to take care of first, 684 00:38:51.460 --> 00:38:54.860 admits Johnny. But, wow, how about that? 685 00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:58.400 Well, that's not exactly the case. Okay. 686 00:38:59.000 --> 00:38:59.400 Clarify. 687 00:38:59.920 --> 00:39:03.360 Because Lowndes would not be 9-0. We would be potentially 688 00:39:03.380 --> 00:39:06.519 8-0 because that would be the ninth game on the schedule. 689 00:39:07.219 --> 00:39:09.760 Okay. Did he mean possibly undefeated? 690 00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:13.269 Could be. Could be just undefeated coming into that game. 691 00:39:13.650 --> 00:39:15.969 Yeah. I think it's just a matter of semantics, whatever. 692 00:39:16.010 --> 00:39:17.889 I mean, the point being, that is going to set 693 00:39:17.989 --> 00:39:24.010 up for a fantastic setting and a showcase in that game. 694 00:39:24.050 --> 00:39:26.780 By the way, Lowndes, let's talk about Lowndes and the 695 00:39:26.820 --> 00:39:29.969 Region 17A openers Friday night. Thursday night, whenever they play. 696 00:39:31.030 --> 00:39:35.849 So I think Colquitt answered some questions. Colquitt County made 697 00:39:35.869 --> 00:39:40.349 the long trip over to Richmond Hill. We always talk, Larry, 698 00:39:40.630 --> 00:39:42.889 about Richmond Hill and how improved they are, and I 699 00:39:42.929 --> 00:39:47.840 believe they are. But I think you're seeing a continuation 700 00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:50.400 of what we have been seeing, which is a clear delineation. 701 00:39:51.019 --> 00:39:56.980 between Colquitt County, Valdosta, Lansing, at least right now, still 702 00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:58.719 a lot of football to be played. And I'm a 703 00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:02.139 big fan of Matt Lozada and Richmond Hill. But I 704 00:40:02.179 --> 00:40:05.250 thought Colquitt County really made a statement going over there 705 00:40:05.550 --> 00:40:09.510 after a tight first half, 17-14, Colquitt County leads going 706 00:40:09.530 --> 00:40:12.550 into the locker room. And then in the second half, 707 00:40:12.889 --> 00:40:15.289 Colquitt County did what they had to do to nail down, 708 00:40:15.389 --> 00:40:18.909 shut down Richmond Hill's offense. And they win going away 31-14. Now, 709 00:40:20.260 --> 00:40:22.380 Let's take that one, set it aside over here. Let's 710 00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:24.179 go to the game you were at, Larry, and that 711 00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:28.559 is the Lowndes High Vikings and Camden County Wildcats. Way back, 712 00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:31.820 way back at the beginning of the season when you 713 00:40:31.860 --> 00:40:34.860 and I were talking on here, we thought, I thought, 714 00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:36.980 I actually said it, put it out there, I thought 715 00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:40.570 Camden County may be the team to beat. Now, you'll remember, 716 00:40:41.110 --> 00:40:43.929 I started to slowly get away from that just because 717 00:40:43.989 --> 00:40:45.949 I could kind of see some of the stuff that 718 00:40:45.969 --> 00:40:50.429 was happening in the offseason with the talent emerging with Valdosta, Lowndes, Uh, 719 00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:53.380 so a lot

of those questions too were answered, or 720 00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:57.500 at least I should say maybe were confirmed is, you know, 721 00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.949 Camden County came out, scored the first touchdown, Larry, and 722 00:41:00.969 --> 00:41:02.889 I'm going to let you take over this, uh, this 723 00:41:03.170 --> 00:41:07.210 observation of Lowndes and Camden, a game that Lowndes looked 724 00:41:07.250 --> 00:41:10.349 like they took control of after falling behind seven to nothing. 725 00:41:10.570 --> 00:41:12.130 And then they just kind of took it away. But 726 00:41:12.409 --> 00:41:13.369 talk about that game, Larry. 727 00:41:14.789 --> 00:41:17.329 Yeah. Camden had to be, you know, they had, I 728 00:41:17.349 --> 00:41:19.469 can't remember how many total yards they had, but, um, 729 00:41:20.090 --> 00:41:23.219 Most of your yards came on two big plays, two 730 00:41:23.260 --> 00:41:26.000 big running plays that Camden had, and both of those 731 00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:29.920 were generated by shorter fields. They had really great– they 732 00:41:29.940 --> 00:41:32.699 took over the ball really, really good. Now, the first 733 00:41:32.780 --> 00:41:36.280 one was, man, the conditions. We had to punt our 734 00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:39.280 first possession, I think, and the conditions made it where 735 00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:42.510 the punter just– man, he just had trouble hanging on 736 00:41:42.550 --> 00:41:46.469 to the ball, and he basically muffed the punt. And 737 00:41:46.650 --> 00:41:49.630 Camden took over in fantastic field position, burned us on 738 00:41:49.670 --> 00:41:53.389 a big run to the outside. And then Camden had 739 00:41:53.429 --> 00:41:57.409 another big trot down the field for a touchdown. But 740 00:41:57.510 --> 00:41:59.889 other than that, the Lions defense just shut them down. 741 00:42:00.340 --> 00:42:07.260 Here's what surprised me about Camden. They're smaller. They're undersized 742 00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:11.440 as far as the trench guys goes, both offense and defense. And, 743 00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:15.739 you know, they had the size to contend with Lions. 744 00:42:16.429 --> 00:42:21.269 for maybe a quarter and a half. But shortly after that, 745 00:42:21.289 --> 00:42:26.389 you know, you could tell that the size took over. And, 746 00:42:26.590 --> 00:42:30.099 you know, when you're undersized and you got the, and 747 00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:33.760 you're going up against an offensive line the size that 748 00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:37.300 Lowndes has, and eventually when they faced Valdosta and Calkwood, 749 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:41.090 the size those guys have as well, you can only 750 00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:44.369 take a pounding so long, right, before you start to 751 00:42:44.449 --> 00:42:47.159 give in. And those two to three yards a game 752 00:42:47.239 --> 00:42:50.739 turns into five to seven, and then that turns into 753 00:42:50.739 --> 00:42:54.139 15 and 20. And so by

the end of the, 754 00:42:55.780 --> 00:42:58.000 I guess, middleweight through the third quarter, it was obvious 755 00:42:58.019 --> 00:43:02.840 that Camden has not arrived yet. They're getting there. And 756 00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:07.460 I saw a video that Tucker Pruitt had said to 757 00:43:07.500 --> 00:43:11.480 his team after the game, and he compared themselves to Lowndes. 758 00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:14.389 And he just was very honest with his team that, 759 00:43:15.269 --> 00:43:18.070 they're not where they need to be yet. And if 760 00:43:18.110 --> 00:43:20.530 they want to compete, they're going to have to hit 761 00:43:20.570 --> 00:43:23.889 the weight room harder, get bigger, eat more, practice more, 762 00:43:24.030 --> 00:43:25.769 all the things that you want a head coach to say. 763 00:43:26.449 --> 00:43:30.050 But Camden's not quite there yet. They're probably another, not 764 00:43:30.250 --> 00:43:32.429 next year, but the year after that, they might be 765 00:43:32.469 --> 00:43:33.210 able to contend. 766 00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:36.659 Yeah. So let me talk about one thing you mentioned, Larry. 767 00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:37.800 That was the size. 768 00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:38.500 Yeah. 769 00:43:38.980 --> 00:43:43.079 Okay. You know that the teams are on video everywhere now, right? 770 00:43:43.579 --> 00:43:43.699 Mm-hmm. 771 00:43:44.889 --> 00:43:47.610 I can remember some of the first clips. I guess 772 00:43:47.630 --> 00:43:50.309 it would have been the highlight clips. And by the way, 773 00:43:50.329 --> 00:43:54.190 give Camden credit. They have done a– well, I'm not 774 00:43:54.389 --> 00:43:55.849 talking about how they played. I want to give Camden 775 00:43:55.869 --> 00:44:00.130 credit with how they have come so far, Larry, with 776 00:44:00.190 --> 00:44:04.869 their social media presence. Yeah, they really have. Haven't they, though? 777 00:44:04.909 --> 00:44:09.449 You're now seeing Camden highlights everywhere. I get Camden football 778 00:44:09.489 --> 00:44:12.679 in my feed all the time. But one thing that 779 00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:20.039 I did notice early on, was how small Camden is. Now, 780 00:44:20.059 --> 00:44:23.719 Tucker Pruitt knows that better than anybody. That's why he 781 00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:25.340 made the mention that we've got to get in the locker. 782 00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:26.480 I mean, we've got to get in the weight room. 783 00:44:26.500 --> 00:44:29.059 We've got to get bigger. So Tucker Pruitt knows that. 784 00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:32.059 He'll get them there. But you're right. I think we 785 00:44:32.099 --> 00:44:35.940 need to back off of those expectations that I had, 786 00:44:36.019 --> 00:44:40.679 and it was based mostly, Larry, on Tucker Pruitt and 787 00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:43.269 the confidence I have in him. As a head football coach, 788 00:44:43.369 --> 00:44:45.349 I thought that maybe he could get them there quicker. 789 00:44:45.389 --> 00:44:46.989 But they're going to have to go back to the 790 00:44:47.010 --> 00:44:48.789 drawing board. They're going to have to work on some things. 791 00:44:49.230 --> 00:44:51.670 I think they'll win a region game or two. I 792 00:44:51.690 --> 00:44:53.710 don't know. But, yeah, we'll see. I think they're going 793 00:44:53.730 --> 00:44:55.429 to sneak one in there. But we'll just have to 794 00:44:55.449 --> 00:44:57.809 wait and see. But he's the right guy for the job. 795 00:44:57.829 --> 00:44:59.909 There's no question about that. But I did want to 796 00:44:59.949 --> 00:45:02.050 make mention of that. But, obviously, that game was pretty 797 00:45:02.070 --> 00:45:07.090 close early. But then Lowndes pulled away. What is the situation? 798 00:45:07.150 --> 00:45:09.809 And I did not ask. We did the Lowndes coaches 799 00:45:09.829 --> 00:45:13.900 show this morning with Adam Carter. And I guess that 800 00:45:14.940 --> 00:45:15.659 Jace did not play. 801 00:45:16.380 --> 00:45:17.579 He didn't. Okay. 802 00:45:18.099 --> 00:45:20.559 So I would think the conditions had a lot to 803 00:45:20.619 --> 00:45:21.099 do with that. 804 00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:25.090 Yeah, I think– I can't speak for Adam Carter, but 805 00:45:25.170 --> 00:45:30.030 my suspicion is that the conditions were the reason why. 806 00:45:30.050 --> 00:45:31.050 Yeah, I think so. 807 00:45:31.070 --> 00:45:32.869 The only reason why you bring in a Jace at 808 00:45:32.909 --> 00:45:35.369 this stage is if you intend to throw the ball. 809 00:45:35.949 --> 00:45:37.280 And there was no throwing it that night. 810 00:45:37.530 --> 00:45:40.639 Yeah, if you're going to basically stay to the ground, 811 00:45:41.250 --> 00:45:43.289 stay on the ground, there's no reason to bring him back. 812 00:45:44.590 --> 00:45:45.070 Exactly. 813 00:45:45.409 --> 00:45:47.940 And I think that's exactly what happened. Yeah. 814 00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:50.119 Well, and Larry, look at the stats. I mean, Mason 815 00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:53.539 Woods is one of our ITG Next Top Performers. What, 816 00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:56.539 he rushed for four touchdowns, 270 yards the other night? 817 00:45:56.900 --> 00:45:57.019 Yeah. 818 00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:01.489 And then I'm assuming it was the quarterback who was 819 00:46:01.619 --> 00:46:04.769 also taking the direct snaps. What's his name? 820 00:46:04.829 --> 00:46:10.409 Is it– what's his name? Well, we have two back 821 00:46:10.429 --> 00:46:15.670 and quarterbacks. Jordan Parker and Trey Robertson. Okay. So we 822 00:46:15.690 --> 00:46:18.690 had other guys taking direct snaps as well. 823 00:46:19.449 --> 00:46:20.469 Yeah. What did either of them? 824 00:46:21.269 --> 00:46:22.150 Waylon Weidinger. 825 00:46:22.349 --> 00:46:22.639 That's him. 826 00:46:22.670 --> 00:46:24.510 Typically a tight end. Okay. 827 00:46:24.530 --> 00:46:25.050 Halfback. 828 00:46:25.409 --> 00:46:28.280 Yeah. Something like that. That's him. You got Kayvon

Thomas 829 00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:32.119 taking direct snaps. You got a host of others. So 830 00:46:32.179 --> 00:46:34.719 they were basically running a single wing the other night. Okay. 831 00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:35.539 With direct snaps. 832 00:46:35.940 --> 00:46:39.760 I got you. So, yeah. So those two were there. 833 00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:42.210 And Larry. it sounds like it was just that kind 834 00:46:42.250 --> 00:46:45.909 of game where you could do that. And I gotta 835 00:46:45.929 --> 00:46:48.889 be honest with you. You know, this lounge, I think 836 00:46:48.909 --> 00:46:52.610 we're going to continue even with Jace's health, you know, 837 00:46:53.070 --> 00:46:55.630 being okay or where it's at. I think you're going 838 00:46:55.650 --> 00:47:02.619 to see Jace featured in specialized situations. That's just my thought. 839 00:47:02.699 --> 00:47:04.960 Now you may be, you are closer to the action 840 00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:07.800 than I am, Larry, but you know, I know Adam 841 00:47:07.820 --> 00:47:09.159 Carter and I don't really get into a lot of 842 00:47:09.179 --> 00:47:12.019 that specifics about Jays. He likes to talk about kind 843 00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:13.719 of what's going on with the guys that are in there, 844 00:47:13.739 --> 00:47:16.219 and that's cool. But that's just kind of my suspicions 845 00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:20.000 I get with where we are with Lowndes. And I 846 00:47:20.019 --> 00:47:23.980 like the defense. And that's what I keep hearing from everybody, Larry, 847 00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:25.360 is that defense are really good after you. 848 00:47:26.099 --> 00:47:28.519 Phil, the way that I would describe Lowndes right now 849 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:35.630 is I think the coaching staff is comfortable moving forward 850 00:47:35.969 --> 00:47:39.369 with or without Jace. They hope to have him and 851 00:47:39.409 --> 00:47:42.849 his services. Yep. But they're prepared if he's not ready. 852 00:47:43.349 --> 00:47:44.170 That's right. Yeah. 853 00:47:44.769 --> 00:47:45.090 That's right. 854 00:47:45.809 --> 00:47:48.829 Okay. So let's talk about, boy, it was a night 855 00:47:48.869 --> 00:47:52.260 of upsets Friday night. Well, first of all, let's finish 856 00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:55.579 the region conversation. So we had Camden and Lowndes. We 857 00:47:55.619 --> 00:48:01.280 had Colquitt and Richmond Hill. And did we have anybody else? 858 00:48:01.619 --> 00:48:02.389 Valdosta was off. 859 00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:03.059 No, Valdosta was off. 860 00:48:03.500 --> 00:48:05.869 Okay. All right. So there we go. And then, of course, 861 00:48:05.969 --> 00:48:08.809 in 1-6-8, Tift County– or 2-6-8, Tift County loses a 862 00:48:08.849 --> 00:48:12.789 heartbreaker against Northside Warner Robins. Boy, that was brutal, man. 863 00:48:12.809 --> 00:48:16.489 I thought for sure Tift was on its way. They 864 00:48:16.530 --> 00:48:20.079 were cruising. Yeah. When I finally– I watched– I kept 865 00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:22.860 coming in and out of different games, and they were cruising, man. 866 00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:23.519 They were. 867 00:48:23.539 --> 00:48:26.440 And all of a sudden, I turn it off in 868 00:48:26.460 --> 00:48:28.789 the fourth quarter, start of the fourth quarter. I come 869 00:48:28.829 --> 00:48:30.409 back later. It's like, they lost? They lost. 870 00:48:32.260 --> 00:48:34.360 Tift is still, and I'll talk to Jeff Littleton tomorrow, 871 00:48:34.420 --> 00:48:36.360 Tift is still trying to learn how to win. And 872 00:48:37.820 --> 00:48:40.920 for all of y'all that are trying to run Jeff 873 00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:42.519 Littleton out of town, please stop. 874 00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:43.719 Stop. 875 00:48:44.900 --> 00:48:46.500 Okay, what are you going to do? You think somebody 876 00:48:46.539 --> 00:48:49.079 else is going to come in and just wave a 877 00:48:49.139 --> 00:48:53.760 magic wand and turn this Tift County thing around like that? No. 878 00:48:54.559 --> 00:48:54.780 No. 879 00:48:55.099 --> 00:48:57.599 They're getting there. It's baby steps, man. It's just taking 880 00:48:57.659 --> 00:49:02.659 a while. But Jeff Littleton, he's proven before. He's done it. 881 00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:05.119 He's done it at Cairo. He's done it at Bainbridge. 882 00:49:05.610 --> 00:49:09.550 And he's going to do it at Tim. So, patience. Patience. Okay. 883 00:49:10.309 --> 00:49:15.030 I want to talk about, though, how about Buford and Carrollton. Now, Carrollton, 884 00:49:15.530 --> 00:49:21.090 for their game, Buford had a laugher against Dracula. Okay. 885 00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:26.059 Buford was able to beat the vampires Friday night, Larry. 886 00:49:26.500 --> 00:49:26.679 Yeah. 887 00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:29.980 Dracula. Can I get a laugh in here? 888 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:31.199 Come on. 889 00:49:31.980 --> 00:49:35.380 Fill with this cheap old humor, man. All right. So 890 00:49:35.460 --> 00:49:39.380 Buford defeats a bunch of vampires the other night. Okay, 891 00:49:39.860 --> 00:49:43.360 and in a ho-hum game. Kerry Claiborne was sending me updates. Well, 892 00:49:43.380 --> 00:49:44.679 he was sending us all those updates. You were on 893 00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:47.340 the group chat. And I swear, I didn't think Kerry 894 00:49:47.380 --> 00:49:52.179 was going to be able to type fast enough. Buford's 895 00:49:52.260 --> 00:49:56.090 up 7-0. Buford's up 14-0. I'm like, Kerry, keep up, man. 896 00:49:56.130 --> 00:50:00.550 Come on. But anyway, Carrollson. How about Carrollson? So, they 897 00:50:00.570 --> 00:50:02.769 come out. Douglas County gives them a ball game, Larry. 898 00:50:03.849 --> 00:50:04.210 Okay. 899 00:50:05.550 --> 00:50:07.500 By the way, I'm getting another call from Rick Jackson 900 00:50:07.980 --> 00:50:12.059 for coming. Boy, his campaign is burning it up, ain't they? 901 00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:13.659 They are spending some money because I get it. 902 00:50:13.659

--> 00:50:18.219 They are. I'm sure everybody's getting them. And there's no 903 00:50:18.300 --> 00:50:21.739 anonymity coming in here. It's like, hey, Rick Jackson for 904 00:50:21.780 --> 00:50:24.489 governor calling. Don't worry, brother. You got my vote anyway. 905 00:50:25.090 --> 00:50:30.570 So you've got Carrollton almost playing with Douglas County. I 906 00:50:30.590 --> 00:50:34.090 don't really want to say that, but Douglas County gave 907 00:50:34.130 --> 00:50:37.230 him a game in the first half. Larry, were you 908 00:50:37.250 --> 00:50:38.449 keeping up with that one at all? 909 00:50:41.030 --> 00:50:43.369 No, well, kind of. I was keeping up with a 910 00:50:43.369 --> 00:50:43.829 lot of them. 911 00:50:44.550 --> 00:50:46.170 Well, that's why I asked. I know you were saying 912 00:50:46.289 --> 00:50:46.849 that you were. 913 00:50:47.750 --> 00:50:47.929 Yeah. 914 00:50:48.670 --> 00:50:53.489 Okay. So, anyway, Carrollton, it was a little bit close 915 00:50:53.530 --> 00:50:56.949 there for a while in the first half, Larry, as 916 00:50:56.989 --> 00:51:00.010 you had, I think it was like, I can't remember 917 00:51:00.050 --> 00:51:03.840 the exact score. So, Carrollton led 31-24 at the half. 918 00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:07.559 Here we go. They led by a touchdown. And you 919 00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:13.650 really were thinking, Larry, like, uh-oh. You know, we've been 920 00:51:13.690 --> 00:51:17.369 talking about Carrollton as quite possibly the best team in 921 00:51:17.409 --> 00:51:17.849 the state. 922 00:51:18.170 --> 00:51:18.429 Sure. 923 00:51:18.969 --> 00:51:21.030 Along with Thomas County Central and Buford, of course. You know, 924 00:51:21.050 --> 00:51:23.440 those three kind of in the same conversation. And then 925 00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:27.320 all of a sudden, wham, bam, third quarter comes around 926 00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:30.119 and Carrollton just turns it on. 927 00:51:31.739 --> 00:51:35.179 You think it was one of those trap games where 928 00:51:35.219 --> 00:51:36.500 Carrollton just overlooked them? 929 00:51:36.969 --> 00:51:37.610 Yeah, I do. 930 00:51:38.070 --> 00:51:39.670 But they have the talent to be able to turn 931 00:51:39.690 --> 00:51:40.809 it on instantly like that? 932 00:51:41.250 --> 00:51:44.070 I do. Good call. It's a good call. I think 933 00:51:44.110 --> 00:51:48.349 that's exactly what it is. Real quickly, let me say 934 00:51:48.369 --> 00:51:50.630 something about Bo Walker. I was talking about Bo Walker, 935 00:51:50.690 --> 00:51:58.750 Cedar Grove. Imagine, Larry, when Bo Walker leaves and John Adams, 936 00:51:59.869 --> 00:52:04.170 one of the signers of the Constitution, also decides to leave. 937 00:52:05.889 --> 00:52:12.250 Um, Did he take his L with him? Oh, wait, wait. 938 00:52:12.409 --> 00:52:13.670 That was Samuel Adams. Sorry. 939 00:52:14.289 --> 00:52:16.969 I think we bring this joke out every Monday night. 940 00:52:17.030 --> 00:52:17.250 It's okay.

941 00:52:17.289 --> 00:52:24.940 We're having fun. So anyway, you got Bo Walker leaves, 942 00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:33.360 John Adams leaves, and boy, the tank runs empty. That 943 00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:35.480 program used to be one of the– and there we 944 00:52:35.500 --> 00:52:37.769 go again. Why do I bring that up? Because just 945 00:52:37.789 --> 00:52:40.750 like we're talking about Aiden McPherson at Thomas County Central, 946 00:52:41.130 --> 00:52:44.590 look at what Bo Walker meant to Cedar Grove. You 947 00:52:44.659 --> 00:52:47.059 remove him from that team and that program, along with 948 00:52:47.099 --> 00:52:50.139 a pretty darn good head coach. Larry, we're talking about 949 00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:53.480 this with Warner Robins, too. Love Shane Sams, and Shane 950 00:52:53.500 --> 00:52:56.360 Sams is a good coach. But Warner Robins, as soon 951 00:52:56.679 --> 00:52:58.659 as Marquise Westbrook. 952 00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:00.059 Left, boom. 953 00:53:02.070 --> 00:53:03.969 But you were going to say something about Carrollton, I think, Larry. 954 00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:07.239 Well, I was just going to make a point that 955 00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:11.400 in high school, especially, not so much in college. In college, 956 00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:14.340 they've got the ability to build a roster in depth. 957 00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:19.610 Just take a look at Georgia this past week. But 958 00:53:19.650 --> 00:53:24.909 in high school, even at the highest classification, one outstanding 959 00:53:25.150 --> 00:53:30.289 athlete can be the difference between going undefeated and going 7-3. 960 00:53:32.010 --> 00:53:36.880 You remove that athlete. For example, Several years ago at Lowndes, 961 00:53:37.099 --> 00:53:41.590 if you remove Jacory Brown from our team, does Lowndes 962 00:53:41.789 --> 00:53:45.030 do as well as they did during his era? I 963 00:53:45.050 --> 00:53:46.369 would argue probably not. 964 00:53:46.849 --> 00:53:47.809 What was your question again, Larry? 965 00:53:47.829 --> 00:53:51.230 I'm sorry. My question in high school football, when you 966 00:53:51.269 --> 00:53:55.429 remove a superstar like a Bo Walker or a Jacory 967 00:53:55.469 --> 00:53:59.880 Brown from Lowndes, if you remove that athlete from the situation, 968 00:53:59.920 --> 00:54:02.760 from the team, in high school, do they do as 969 00:54:02.860 --> 00:54:07.099 well without him? Probably not. No, no. So a superstar 970 00:54:07.139 --> 00:54:09.599 in high school, just a single superstar in high school 971 00:54:09.619 --> 00:54:14.000 is the difference between a world-beater 15-0 record and a 972 00:54:14.019 --> 00:54:15.219 7-3 mediocre year. 973 00:54:15.659 --> 00:54:18.340 No question about it, Larry. Well, Larry, you made the 974 00:54:18.380 --> 00:54:22.179 comment earlier, do you think A. McPherson or CCC would 975 00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:23.880 be as good without A. McPherson? 976 00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:26.320 I think they would be as good. I just don't 977 00:54:26.340 --> 00:54:27.610 think they would be as dominant. 978 00:54:27.929 --> 00:54:29.989 I agree with that. That's good. I like that. I 979 00:54:30.010 --> 00:54:31.969 think you're right. Because I've got to tell you, the 980 00:54:31.989 --> 00:54:34.369 Waldrop young man is fantastic. 981 00:54:34.750 --> 00:54:37.480 I'm sure he is. But there's a reason why McPherson 982 00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:38.000 is starting. 983 00:54:38.340 --> 00:54:41.840 Agree. I agree with you 100%. I mean, look at 984 00:54:42.110 --> 00:54:44.650 what he has been able to do single-handedly. 985 00:54:44.969 --> 00:54:45.170 Yeah. 986 00:54:46.570 --> 00:54:49.750 For the most part, beat Lee County. Now, listen, I 987 00:54:49.769 --> 00:54:52.170 don't want anybody to say, well, Phil, we've got a 988 00:54:52.210 --> 00:54:54.769 lot of great players than just me. I get that. 989 00:54:55.010 --> 00:54:58.909 I understand that. That's not what I'm saying. But like 990 00:54:58.949 --> 00:55:01.670 Larry had mentioned, I mentioned, you know, I've never seen 991 00:55:01.809 --> 00:55:05.269 as dominant a performance. I was talking to Dean Fabrizio today. 992 00:55:06.409 --> 00:55:08.949 And we're talking after the coaching show. And Dean Fabrizio 993 00:55:08.969 --> 00:55:10.929 has been around a long time. He said, Phil, I've 994 00:55:10.969 --> 00:55:14.110 never seen anything like that young man. And, again, we're 995 00:55:14.150 --> 00:55:19.800 talking about– hold on, my dog's getting into something. Go ahead, 996 00:55:19.820 --> 00:55:22.380 keep talking. My dog's getting into trash. Hang on. Yeah. 997 00:55:22.820 --> 00:55:25.260 So, some of you guys may have noticed in the comment, 998 00:55:25.860 --> 00:55:29.090 Chase Garnto is talking about Valwood, and he's giving a 999 00:55:29.150 --> 00:55:33.170 scoring update. And you guys might be wondering, it's Monday night. 1000 00:55:33.230 --> 00:55:36.869 What's he talking about? What Chase is referring to is 1001 00:55:37.349 --> 00:55:39.510 because of the hurricane situation last week, they couldn't play 1002 00:55:39.550 --> 00:55:42.050 on Thursday night. They couldn't play on Friday night. So 1003 00:55:42.070 --> 00:55:45.769 they postponed it to tonight. And so they're actually having 1004 00:55:45.789 --> 00:55:48.360 their game. Chase, I can't remember who Val Wood was 1005 00:55:48.420 --> 00:55:52.380 playing tonight, but they're playing their game tonight. And so 1006 00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:54.760 it looks like Val Wood's doing very, very well. They're 1007 00:55:54.780 --> 00:56:00.610 up 45-7, and they are rolling. So Zach Coburn says, LG, 1008 00:56:00.650 --> 00:56:05.570 I totally get that. my 09 Lassiter squad without Hudson Mason, 1009 00:56:06.250 --> 00:56:09.510 who broke every Georgia State passing record that year, and 1010 00:56:09.550 --> 00:56:15.849 without him and Phillip, Lucas Lutzenkirchen, we'd be non-existent. Yeah, 1011

00:56:16.130 --> 00:56:19.809 I think you get it. So Stephen K. Wynn says, 1012 00:56:20.150 --> 00:56:24.250 Phil McPherson comparison to Luke Nickel. Could be. Could be. 1013 00:56:24.429 --> 00:56:28.130 Just as dominant as Luke Nickel. Yeah. So let's go 1014 00:56:28.170 --> 00:56:34.650 back to some of your comments out here. Obadiah Farley 1015 00:56:35.150 --> 00:56:40.159 with the political reference. We're not going to turn this 1016 00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:43.119 into a political show, but that's kind of funny. Obadiah 1017 00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:46.019 Farley says Keisha Lance Bottoms is calling me. So are 1018 00:56:46.059 --> 00:56:49.780 you guys cursing the darkness or embracing the light? No, 1019 00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:52.909 I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. We've all heard that 1020 00:56:52.949 --> 00:56:57.090 political ad, I'm sure, a lot. Jim Blair says, GPP 1021 00:56:57.230 --> 00:57:02.449 broadcast of the week. Valdosta at Colquitt. is going to 1022 00:57:02.489 --> 00:57:04.070 be on statewide TV. 1023 00:57:04.849 --> 00:57:07.900 Yeah, I called that. Remember? I called that about three 1024 00:57:07.940 --> 00:57:10.539 weeks ago, and I had people saying it's fake news. 1025 00:57:10.940 --> 00:57:12.380 Yeah, yeah. 1026 00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:14.880 Well, no, it's not fake news, but I did call that, 1027 00:57:14.900 --> 00:57:17.980 if y'all remember. I posted that about three weeks ago. 1028 00:57:18.539 --> 00:57:21.670 Yeah, when Phil puts something out, there's usually some credible 1029 00:57:21.730 --> 00:57:22.630 sources behind it. 1030 00:57:24.289 --> 00:57:27.849 Thank you, Larry. Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate that. Somebody 1031 00:57:28.070 --> 00:57:33.679 actually posted that. I bet this is fake news. And 1032 00:57:33.820 --> 00:57:35.500 I was just like, what? 1033 00:57:36.179 --> 00:57:36.420 Yeah. 1034 00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:39.360 Oh, and I got to get so much yes too. Okay. 1035 00:57:40.239 --> 00:57:44.619 So last week we posted, and boy, this burns me up, man. 1036 00:57:45.650 --> 00:57:50.690 We posted the transfer, the Buford transfer. 1037 00:57:51.150 --> 00:57:51.349 Yeah. 1038 00:57:53.210 --> 00:57:56.389 You remember what I'm talking about? I can't remember who 1039 00:57:56.429 --> 00:57:56.679 it was. 1040 00:57:57.820 --> 00:57:59.960 Yeah, some kid had transferred up to Gainesville. 1041 00:58:00.530 --> 00:58:05.630 That's right, Larry. That's right. Thank you for clarifying about 1042 00:58:06.269 --> 00:58:11.599 our own post. I can't even remember what it was. Anyway, Larry, 1043 00:58:11.639 --> 00:58:13.199 I have you around for a lot, man, just to 1044 00:58:13.500 --> 00:58:15.340 kind of be my backup here. I appreciate that. 1045 00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:17.659 No problem. I'll be your wing guy anytime. 1046 00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:19.159 Wing guy. There you go. That's what I was trying 1047 00:58:19.179 --> 00:58:25.079 to say. But somebody actually said, yeah, Phil probably got 1048 00:58:25.139 --> 00:58:27.500 it off. I know what it was. So I posted it. 1049 00:58:28.340 --> 00:58:30.969 And this is starting to be a problem. Yeah. I 1050 00:58:31.010 --> 00:58:33.469 post something because, like you said, I get it from 1051 00:58:33.849 --> 00:58:36.809 pretty good sources all these years, man. You have good context. 1052 00:58:37.449 --> 00:58:39.650 And I'm not going to post something off of a, oh, 1053 00:58:39.730 --> 00:58:40.949 I heard this. 1054 00:58:41.590 --> 00:58:42.010 Yeah. Okay. 1055 00:58:42.989 --> 00:58:46.989 Well, there's actually a couple of guys that ticks me off. 1056 00:58:47.489 --> 00:58:55.510 These national guys will go and repost it and say, hey, Buford. 1057 00:58:57.780 --> 00:59:00.579 What was that? Buford linebacker transferring to Gainesville. You know what? 1058 00:59:01.070 --> 00:59:07.630 Whatever happened to editorial integrity? According to ITG Next's Phil Jones, 1059 00:59:09.329 --> 00:59:09.889 you know what I mean? 1060 00:59:10.329 --> 00:59:10.730 Sure, yeah. 1061 00:59:11.250 --> 00:59:15.070 These guys, hold on a second. These guys, the big guys, 1062 00:59:16.780 --> 00:59:20.320 national guys, are just taking it as if they did 1063 00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:23.619 the work. No, you didn't. So why don't you give 1064 00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:28.960 the credit, man? I would never do that. But anyway, man, 1065 00:59:28.980 --> 00:59:30.920 that just kind of ticks me off. 1066 00:59:31.539 --> 00:59:34.960 So some of these transfers that are happening in midseason, man. 1067 00:59:35.219 --> 00:59:36.880 There's a lot of them. It seems to be happening 1068 00:59:36.920 --> 00:59:40.179 more and more. Luke Nelson reminds us that it was 1069 00:59:40.219 --> 00:59:43.480 Luke Neighbors that transferred over. 1070 00:59:43.500 --> 00:59:43.900 That's right. 1071 00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:46.840 So you've got the case where the Fitzgerald running back, 1072 00:59:46.900 --> 00:59:49.880 superstar running back, goes to Coffey County a couple weeks ago. 1073 00:59:50.519 --> 00:59:55.730 And then recently I think I saw where Tiff County, No, 1074 00:59:55.969 --> 00:59:59.090 a defensive lineman is transferred to Valdosta, right? I think 1075 00:59:59.130 --> 00:59:59.530 that's right. 1076 01:00:00.650 --> 01:00:02.489 Look, let me add my two cents worth in there. 1077 01:00:03.829 --> 01:00:08.030 So your team is struggling, and you're just going to 1078 01:00:08.070 --> 01:00:11.530 give up. You're going to jump ship. I've got to 1079 01:00:11.550 --> 01:00:14.429 be honest with you, man. This is the part of 1080 01:00:14.449 --> 01:00:18.800 high school football I'm really having a problem with. I'm 1081 01:00:18.820 --> 01:00:23.239 going to go where the grass is greener. Yeah. instead 1082 01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:27.829 of sticking around and fighting with my teammates, um, I 1083 01:00:27.849 --> 01:00:31.050 still like it, you know, I don't like it. And no, 1084

01:00:31.130 --> 01:00:33.389 I'm not really the guy of get off my long guy. 1085 01:00:33.429 --> 01:00:36.550 I'm not, I, I'm, I'm as progressive as anybody, but 1086 01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:40.179 that's kind of where we're at now. Things aren't going 1087 01:00:40.219 --> 01:00:42.840 like I want them to. So I'm going to leave 1088 01:00:42.880 --> 01:00:43.860 and go to the other guys. 1089 01:00:44.420 --> 01:00:44.619 Yeah. 1090 01:00:45.820 --> 01:00:48.610 Anyway, let's move on. Um, so let me ask you this, Larry, 1091 01:00:49.159 --> 01:00:57.000 because everybody seems to be asking this question. Um, Between Buford, Carrollton, 1092 01:00:57.119 --> 01:00:58.059 and TCC. 1093 01:01:01.099 --> 01:01:04.019 Buford, Carrollton, and TCC. 1094 01:01:04.360 --> 01:01:05.139 Who's the best? 1095 01:01:05.989 --> 01:01:08.130 So you've got a battle royale there, right? 1096 01:01:08.449 --> 01:01:10.429 Battle royale. They're going to all get in the ring. 1097 01:01:10.969 --> 01:01:12.190 Let me say it this way. Let me answer it 1098 01:01:12.210 --> 01:01:15.869 this way. It's almost impossible right now for me to 1099 01:01:15.889 --> 01:01:17.429 see TCC get beat by anybody. 1100 01:01:18.230 --> 01:01:18.469 Okay. 1101 01:01:20.090 --> 01:01:22.690 That's how I will answer that. Now, we did have 1102 01:01:22.730 --> 01:01:25.590 North Gwinnett in the conversation, but obviously they got taken 1103 01:01:25.650 --> 01:01:32.489 down by Brookwood. By the way, Eric, Greg Reed sent 1104 01:01:32.530 --> 01:01:35.489 me a message over the weekend. The former Florida State 1105 01:01:35.530 --> 01:01:38.949 great said, Phil, you better watch out for Brookwood. And 1106 01:01:38.969 --> 01:01:41.190 he's right. But, Larry, what do you think? 1107 01:01:42.510 --> 01:01:46.170 Okay, between those three teams that you just said? Yeah. Okay, 1108 01:01:46.210 --> 01:01:49.489 so I'm going to answer that in two different ways. Okay. 1109 01:01:49.510 --> 01:01:50.179 Okay. 1110 01:01:50.869 --> 01:01:55.530 The first way is I'm going to say if the 1111 01:01:55.610 --> 01:02:01.440 games are played in Thomas County, I like Central's chances. 1112 01:02:01.860 --> 01:02:06.239 I don't think they'll win, but they can certainly take 1113 01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:08.719 it into the fourth quarter and keep it very close. 1114 01:02:09.159 --> 01:02:13.039 Wait a minute, between who? Between Central, Carrollton, and Buford. 1115 01:02:13.119 --> 01:02:18.219 If they all played that game in Thomas County. Wow, really? 1116 01:02:19.030 --> 01:02:21.980 I think Central can at least take the game into 1117 01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:25.860 the fourth quarter. And once it gets into the fourth 1118 01:02:25.900 --> 01:02:29.340 quarter and it's still close, then depth starts to take over. 1119 01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:32.079 And I think Central's got depth to be able to 1120 01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:35.599 hang with these guys. Now, eventually, I think Buford, both 1121

01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:40.429 Buford and Carrollton, would ultimately win those games. Now, Kerry 1122 01:02:40.489 --> 01:02:42.920 Claiborne is about to light me up, I'm sure of it. 1123 01:02:44.070 --> 01:02:47.969 But if the game is in Mercedes-Benz in a state 1124 01:02:48.030 --> 01:02:58.230 championship situation, Then I like Buford and Carrollton. Because Central fans, 1125 01:02:58.349 --> 01:03:00.889 they're about to light me up too. So they're going 1126 01:03:00.909 --> 01:03:03.289 to travel well, that kind of stuff. But it's not 1127 01:03:03.329 --> 01:03:05.849 the same in a venue like that because they're going 1128 01:03:05.869 --> 01:03:08.269 to quiet the horns. I mean, they've already done it before. 1129 01:03:08.289 --> 01:03:10.960 So you've got crowd noise, that kind of stuff. And 1130 01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:15.059 it's just not as loud, even with a large high 1131 01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:19.840 school crowd. It's just not as loud in Mercedes-Benz. Without 1132 01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:23.920 those horns. And without that home field advantage, I just 1133 01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:26.500 don't think they'll have the energy that they need to 1134 01:03:26.559 --> 01:03:29.639 sustain them. Because Buford is going to pound on you. 1135 01:03:30.019 --> 01:03:33.380 Buford is going to play bully ball. And they've got 1136 01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:39.039 the talent to do it. So Buford and Carrollton are 1137 01:03:39.079 --> 01:03:42.179 probably the only two teams in the state that can 1138 01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:46.409 play bully ball against Thomas Central. And Central will try 1139 01:03:46.449 --> 01:03:49.070 to play it back. And they'll be able to sustain 1140 01:03:49.110 --> 01:03:54.329 that for a while. But eventually, the depth of two, three, 1141 01:03:54.489 --> 01:03:56.969 four deep of Buford will overcome them. 1142 01:03:57.969 --> 01:04:00.349 Man, Larry, I just think back to last year, that 1143 01:04:00.389 --> 01:04:06.769 messed up with Gainesville. And TCC just, I mean, hammered them. 1144 01:04:07.329 --> 01:04:09.389 I got to tell you, I just can't see anybody 1145 01:04:09.429 --> 01:04:13.090 beating TCC. I think– I don't disagree. Yeah. And I 1146 01:04:13.110 --> 01:04:14.150 want to make sure you understand. 1147 01:04:14.630 --> 01:04:14.809 Sure. 1148 01:04:14.829 --> 01:04:18.690 You make some very good points. They're all legitimate. It's 1149 01:04:18.710 --> 01:04:21.250 just hard for me to imagine right now TCC struggling 1150 01:04:21.289 --> 01:04:24.690 with anything or anybody. You know what I mean? 1151 01:04:24.730 --> 01:04:24.829 Yeah. 1152 01:04:24.849 --> 01:04:26.829 I want to hear what our folks have to say here. 1153 01:04:28.650 --> 01:04:31.679 Chase, Chase Carto, he said, I love you, Chase, but 1154 01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:35.019 he says, I'll take TCC over Buford by three scores. Man, 1155 01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:38.860 you're just out of your mind. Maybe they'll beat them, 1156

01:04:38.980 --> 01:04:40.639 but by three scores? Come on. 1157 01:04:41.320 --> 01:04:41.539 Yeah. 1158 01:04:41.559 --> 01:04:42.219 Come on. 1159 01:04:43.139 --> 01:04:46.449 I got you. By the way, Mac Foster Jr. says, 1160 01:04:46.510 --> 01:04:48.309 what's up, Phil and LG? What's going on, brother? 1161 01:04:48.750 --> 01:04:49.510 Yeah. 1162 01:04:49.710 --> 01:04:53.139 Jim Blair, what about Brookwood over North Gwinnett? Yeah, that 1163 01:04:53.159 --> 01:04:57.599 was right after going down to Parkview and Brookwood. That's 1164 01:04:57.639 --> 01:04:59.739 what I'm saying, guys. Do you all see the upsets 1165 01:04:59.800 --> 01:05:03.699 we're having around the state? And that's kind of where 1166 01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:08.139 I'm at as far as we're seeing all these upsets. 1167 01:05:09.309 --> 01:05:13.150 You've got a lot of upsets, especially in the private category. 1168 01:05:13.889 --> 01:05:18.070 Hebron Christian, two-time defending state champion. And again, Here's what 1169 01:05:18.090 --> 01:05:21.860 you were talking about earlier. Things can go down like that. 1170 01:05:22.219 --> 01:05:28.619 Prince Avenue Christian. Remember how long they rolled? Yeah. Prince 1171 01:05:28.679 --> 01:05:33.880 Avenue Christian. Now, again, what do I like to say? 1172 01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:37.900 Watch out for the longtime coach leaving. Who was Prince 1173 01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:43.590 Avenue Christian's longtime coach? Greg Vandergriff. Okay. The dad of 1174 01:05:44.030 --> 01:05:46.969 Brock Vandergriff, who's University of Kentucky quarterback. 1175 01:05:47.380 --> 01:05:47.659 Okay. 1176 01:05:47.780 --> 01:05:53.199 Greg Vandergriff leaves and it's downhill. Um, Hebron Christian. 1177 01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:55.360 Okay. 1178 01:05:55.699 --> 01:06:00.940 There you had, uh, the former Eagles landing Christian Academy coach. 1179 01:06:01.300 --> 01:06:01.539 Sure. 1180 01:06:02.179 --> 01:06:07.989 Remember he leaves ELCA and what happens? You remember that? 1181 01:06:08.530 --> 01:06:08.739 Yeah. 1182 01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:11.989 Okay. Um, gosh, I used to do a coach show 1183 01:06:12.010 --> 01:06:13.510 with him. I can't remember. I don't know what's going 1184 01:06:13.530 --> 01:06:17.539 on with me anyway. Um, ELCA used to be dominant. 1185 01:06:18.059 --> 01:06:19.719 I know I'm kind of going in a different direction. 1186 01:06:19.739 --> 01:06:23.000 ELCA used to be dominant. They might be in the conversation, Larry, 1187 01:06:23.239 --> 01:06:25.559 that we started off with. Sure. 1188 01:06:26.099 --> 01:06:27.659 Dynasty. Dynasty, yeah. 1189 01:06:27.699 --> 01:06:29.400 How many of y'all remember ELCA? 1190 01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:33.980 Every Lounge fan will say, we remember ELCA. 1191 01:06:34.780 --> 01:06:36.260 Oh, I forgot about that, Larry. 1192 01:06:36.320 --> 01:06:38.420 They came down here one time and shocked us a 1193 01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:38.920 few years ago. 1194 01:06:39.059 --> 01:06:40.260 I remember that. 1195 01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:40.599 Yeah. 1196 01:06:41.139 --> 01:06:44.360 I just forgot about that. So ELCA up there around, 1197 01:06:44.639 --> 01:06:48.920 what was Eagles Landing? they went to like six straight 1198 01:06:49.079 --> 01:06:52.199 state title games. I think they won like five of them. 1199 01:06:52.719 --> 01:06:52.900 Yeah. 1200 01:06:53.039 --> 01:06:59.179 So unbelievable. So I think that's where TCC is going 1201 01:06:59.199 --> 01:07:03.909 to have to get to get to dynasty status. It's 1202 01:07:03.989 --> 01:07:06.710 almost like, though, to me in my mind, TCC is 1203 01:07:06.730 --> 01:07:09.869 already there. Yeah. But they do have a little ways 1204 01:07:09.909 --> 01:07:11.650 to go for I think we can classify them as 1205 01:07:11.670 --> 01:07:12.030 a dynasty. 1206 01:07:12.090 --> 01:07:14.340 Right, Larry? That's right. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Good. 1207 01:07:14.860 --> 01:07:16.639 And I kind of went off on a tangent here, 1208 01:07:17.539 --> 01:07:18.340 but reel me back in. 1209 01:07:19.139 --> 01:07:21.679 Now, Jose Badia, he's got an interesting– he makes an 1210 01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:25.139 interesting point. He says, LG, it's just your opinion. I 1211 01:07:25.360 --> 01:07:28.280 like it, but Buford may have more state titles. TCC 1212 01:07:28.300 --> 01:07:31.550 has got more history. TCC all the way. I hate 1213 01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:38.929 that they're in different classifications. I mean, Jose, you're one 1214 01:07:38.989 --> 01:07:44.570 decision away from being in Buford's classifications. You can elect 1215 01:07:44.610 --> 01:07:53.269 to play up. That will settle the argument. Right? Any team, 1216 01:07:54.050 --> 01:07:57.590 whether it's Tiff County, they can elect to play up 1217 01:07:57.610 --> 01:08:00.809 to 7A if they wanted to. Thomas County Central can 1218 01:08:00.849 --> 01:08:02.409 elect to play up to 7A if you want to. 1219 01:08:02.809 --> 01:08:07.489 If you're so confident in your ability to beat Buford 1220 01:08:07.510 --> 01:08:12.190 and Carrollton, join 7A. You have the ability to do it. 1221 01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:14.480 And I think you guys can compete. 1222 01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:16.020 So you can always move up. 1223 01:08:16.619 --> 01:08:17.340 You can move up. 1224 01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:22.420 Yeah. That's a good point, Larry. That's a really good point. Okay. 1225 01:08:22.920 --> 01:08:26.359 Leo Jose, when will your coaching show drop this week? Leo, 1226 01:08:26.390 --> 01:08:30.069 which one are you talking about? By the way, Larry, 1227 01:08:30.189 --> 01:08:32.510 I want to read this from Johnny Holcomb. This is 1228 01:08:32.550 --> 01:08:33.689 a pretty telling stat. 1229 01:08:34.210 --> 01:08:34.390 Yeah. 1230 01:08:35.609 --> 01:08:39.390 So, obviously, we've got Valdosta going to the hog pen 1231 01:08:40.550 --> 01:08:43.260 this week to take on Cold Cut County. Right. 1232 01:08:43.300 --> 01:08:43.500

Right. 1233 01:08:44.220 --> 01:08:47.899 So Johnny Holcomb says, Larry, that the cats have not 1234 01:08:47.960 --> 01:08:51.550 won at the hog pen since 2010. 1235 01:08:51.550 --> 01:08:52.199 Is that right? 1236 01:08:53.090 --> 01:08:55.029 I know what I saw that thought the same thing. 1237 01:08:55.050 --> 01:08:59.029 I was like, what? So Valdosta has not won there 1238 01:08:59.189 --> 01:09:02.369 in 2010. let's see, 25 years. Oh, no, 15 years. 1239 01:09:05.310 --> 01:09:08.529 Can Cold Cut win that game, Larry? 1240 01:09:09.220 --> 01:09:12.699 Yeah. Can Cold Cut win against Valdosta? 1241 01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:14.159 Yeah. 1242 01:09:14.279 --> 01:09:14.920 This coming Friday? 1243 01:09:15.659 --> 01:09:16.460 Well, yeah, you just said yeah. 1244 01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:18.159 Yeah, absolutely they can. 1245 01:09:18.279 --> 01:09:18.800 Yeah, yeah. 1246 01:09:19.789 --> 01:09:25.210 Yeah. So, GPB thinks they can win. Otherwise, they wouldn't 1247 01:09:25.229 --> 01:09:26.369 make it the game of the week. 1248 01:09:26.829 --> 01:09:29.289 That's a good point. Good point. 1249 01:09:29.510 --> 01:09:32.590 Now, every Valdosta fan is going to disagree with that 1250 01:09:32.670 --> 01:09:36.449 statement because I think we all recognize in 178 that 1251 01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:40.260 Valdosta has got a very, very good team this year, 1252 01:09:40.680 --> 01:09:45.399 and Colquitt has a good team. Okay? Very usually beats good. 1253 01:09:46.659 --> 01:09:48.880 Larry, let me say something real quick, though. 1254 01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:49.560 Yeah. 1255 01:09:51.930 --> 01:09:57.130 I noticed this, though, with Sean Calhoun and his team. 1256 01:09:58.430 --> 01:10:01.810 If you think about it, you know, they won the 1257 01:10:01.890 --> 01:10:04.310 region championship how many years in a row? Like three? 1258 01:10:06.729 --> 01:10:07.609 Maybe. I can't remember. 1259 01:10:07.970 --> 01:10:11.909 I can't either. Yeah, I really– and I'm just guessing. 1260 01:10:12.010 --> 01:10:14.329 But it just seems like there was a stretch there. 1261 01:10:15.010 --> 01:10:20.569 The point that I'm making is that a Sean Calhoun 1262 01:10:20.729 --> 01:10:27.449 coached team They don't necessarily blow you away. But at 1263 01:10:27.489 --> 01:10:29.640 the end of the day, they get the job done. 1264 01:10:31.159 --> 01:10:32.920 And if you think about some of the history of 1265 01:10:32.960 --> 01:10:36.279 these games, and Johnny Holcomb is still with us, I'd 1266 01:10:36.319 --> 01:10:37.779 like for you to kind of chime in on that. 1267 01:10:38.460 --> 01:10:39.840 I got to looking when I was talking to Sean 1268 01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:42.659 Calhoun today, Larry, I got to looking at the past 1269 01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:45.359 few meetings between Valdosta and Cold Cut. 1270 01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:46.060 Yeah. 1271 01:10:47.020 --> 01:10:52.069 You'll remember Cold Cut won last year. Okay? 1272 01:10:52.590 --> 01:10:52.729 Yeah.

1273 01:10:54.229 --> 01:10:57.699 Now, Valdosta still wins the region, but Cold Cut won 1274 01:10:57.720 --> 01:11:00.920 that game last year. I think it was like 9-7 1275 01:11:01.020 --> 01:11:08.560 or something like that. The year before, the year before, 1276 01:11:08.619 --> 01:11:15.630 Valdosta won 7-3. Okay. That was in Valdosta. So, point 1277 01:11:15.710 --> 01:11:21.090 being that these two teams just, you know, these are 1278 01:11:21.210 --> 01:11:26.800 very tight, low-scoring games. Yes. But that's what I mean. 1279 01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:31.310 Sean Calhoun's team, they don't blow you away. They just 1280 01:11:31.430 --> 01:11:35.609 find a way. It's a workmanship. It's a blue-collar workmanship 1281 01:11:35.670 --> 01:11:39.689 kind of team, I think, as far as cold-cut county goes. 1282 01:11:41.130 --> 01:11:42.449 But I just thought that was interesting. I'll point that 1283 01:11:42.489 --> 01:11:44.600 out to you, Larry, about the Cats have not won 1284 01:11:44.659 --> 01:11:48.819 at the Hogpen since 2010. And, again, yes, that game 1285 01:11:48.859 --> 01:11:53.180 will be on statewide television as they're bringing the Monsters. 1286 01:11:54.949 --> 01:12:02.939 the rolling 18-wheeler mobile television studio to park it somewhere 1287 01:12:03.079 --> 01:12:05.079 outside of the hog pen, Larry. 1288 01:12:05.659 --> 01:12:09.380 Yeah. One of the hardest teams, not teams, but one 1289 01:12:09.399 --> 01:12:12.640 of the hardest stadiums to play in in the state 1290 01:12:12.659 --> 01:12:14.859 of Georgia is Mac Tharp Stadium. 1291 01:12:15.420 --> 01:12:15.699 It is. 1292 01:12:16.020 --> 01:12:17.340 Just because of the way it's configured. 1293 01:12:17.359 --> 01:12:18.359 Jeff Aaron told me that. 1294 01:12:18.399 --> 01:12:22.000 Just the way it's configured. They rid the other stadium 1295 01:12:22.020 --> 01:12:26.109 a few years ago. And the narrowness of the sidelines 1296 01:12:26.649 --> 01:12:30.189 with the fans, you feel like the fans are right 1297 01:12:30.229 --> 01:12:33.279 on top of you. And there's no room to move. 1298 01:12:33.319 --> 01:12:35.760 There's no room to breathe. I mean, it's just a 1299 01:12:35.859 --> 01:12:38.340 tough– and they've got the loudspeakers in the end zone. 1300 01:12:38.420 --> 01:12:41.479 And when that stadium is rocking, it is just hard 1301 01:12:41.520 --> 01:12:42.979 to overcome the atmosphere. 1302 01:12:43.560 --> 01:12:47.359 Jeff Herron told me– and Jeff Herron is one of 1303 01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:53.420 the greatest coaches to ever– Coach in Georgia. 1304 01:12:53.819 --> 01:12:53.960 Yeah. 1305 01:12:53.979 --> 01:12:54.800 You would agree with that, Larry? 1306 01:12:55.239 --> 01:12:56.039 Oh, yeah, absolutely. 1307 01:12:57.079 --> 01:13:02.119 Jeff Herron told me that Colquitt County was the toughest 1308 01:13:02.229 --> 01:13:06.170 place he's ever taken a team into. Think about all 1309 01:13:06.229 --> 01:13:06.909 the venues. 1310 01:13:07.430 --> 01:13:07.609 Yeah. 1311 01:13:07.890 --> 01:13:11.789 That the great one Jeff Herron has coached in. And 1312 01:13:11.810 --> 01:13:13.789 he said it wasn't even close. And for a lot 1313 01:13:13.810 --> 01:13:16.390 of the reasons you just mentioned, Larry. By the way, 1314 01:13:16.409 --> 01:13:19.449 you mentioned this earlier, Luke Nelson, Big Buford is checking 1315 01:13:19.510 --> 01:13:23.430 in late. Big Buford. Luke Nelson, it's great to have you, 1316 01:13:23.449 --> 01:13:25.960 my friend. Thanks so much for checking into the show. Now, 1317 01:13:25.979 --> 01:13:28.079 I know Larry mentioned that earlier, but I wanted to 1318 01:13:28.119 --> 01:13:29.359 give you an official greeting as well. 1319 01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:29.779 Yeah. 1320 01:13:32.199 --> 01:13:33.199 All right, what else we got, Larry? 1321 01:13:34.539 --> 01:13:36.979 All right, so we're going back. 1322 01:13:37.039 --> 01:13:38.739 PSR, Larry. What about PSR? 1323 01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:45.399 Yeah, PSR. So the PSR is just– some people just 1324 01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:46.430 claim it's jacked up. 1325 01:13:46.779 --> 01:13:48.710 I just saw the comment by Obadiah. 1326 01:13:49.659 --> 01:13:51.000 What's he saying? 1327 01:13:51.039 --> 01:13:53.100 Keisha Lansbaugh is calling me. 1328 01:13:53.739 --> 01:13:56.800 Y'all just need to agree to disagree right now. 1329 01:13:57.840 --> 01:14:01.159 Oh, no, no. It's just funny. It's just funny. He's like, 1330 01:14:01.180 --> 01:14:04.960 they're doing their homework, though, aren't they? They're going through 1331 01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:08.819 their voter rolls. Yeah, that's funny. That's funny. Go ahead, Larry. 1332 01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:13.159 All right. So the PSR, you know, I think it 1333 01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:15.340 was either last week or the week before, there was 1334 01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:19.010 an article in the AJC where Basically, Lauren Maxwell had 1335 01:14:19.050 --> 01:14:24.369 found a problem with the PSR. That's right. And the 1336 01:14:24.409 --> 01:14:28.630 scores weren't being updated on a timely fashion. And that 1337 01:14:28.869 --> 01:14:32.729 one problem cascaded to a number of problems that affected 1338 01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:33.609 a lot of teams. 1339 01:14:33.609 --> 01:14:37.579 300. So real quick, like Todd Holcomb was on. We 1340 01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:39.560 did a special edition of this show. Larry? 1341 01:14:40.100 --> 01:14:40.279 Yeah. 1342 01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:43.119 We did a special edition of Extra Point on Tuesday morning. 1343 01:14:44.979 --> 01:14:45.520 Wednesday morning. 1344 01:14:45.539 --> 01:14:45.920 I'm sorry. 1345 01:14:45.979 --> 01:14:49.229 Wednesday morning. And Todd Holcomb and I did. Because I 1346 01:14:49.250 --> 01:14:50.289 wanted to bring him on, and I'm going to let 1347 01:14:50.310 --> 01:14:52.470 you finish your sentence, Larry, or your comment. So I 1348 01:14:52.489 --> 01:14:55.550 wanted to ask him about

that very thing, Larry. And 1349 01:14:55.689 --> 01:14:57.930 you guys can go back and watch my conversation with 1350 01:14:57.970 --> 01:15:01.119 Todd Holcomb. He is the guy that created the Georgia 1351 01:15:01.140 --> 01:15:02.960 High School Football Daily. Y'all know him. He's at the 1352 01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:05.680 Atlanta Journal of Constitution. He's Mr. Georgia High School Football. 1353 01:15:06.279 --> 01:15:07.739 And he and I were talking about that very thing 1354 01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:11.159 you're talking about, Larry. He said it was 300 teams, 1355 01:15:11.159 --> 01:15:16.079 300 of the PSRs were wrong. Because, and I'll let 1356 01:15:16.119 --> 01:15:18.340 you take it from there. But he mentioned that, and 1357 01:15:18.380 --> 01:15:20.779 I'll let you finish the story as to why that happened. 1358 01:15:21.819 --> 01:15:25.899 Yeah, a lot of the– I think the GHSA had 1359 01:15:26.100 --> 01:15:30.810 left it up to administrators, whether they're ADs or administrative 1360 01:15:30.850 --> 01:15:36.569 assistants or whoever, to go and update the– or it 1361 01:15:36.590 --> 01:15:38.760 might have just been coach. I can't remember who they– 1362 01:15:38.869 --> 01:15:42.390 but it was a bottleneck. It was causing a bottleneck 1363 01:15:42.590 --> 01:15:44.649 of people were trying to enter all at one time 1364 01:15:44.729 --> 01:15:47.300 or they were late, and it caused all many– So 1365 01:15:47.319 --> 01:15:50.220 many problems. As a matter of fact, a few weeks ago, 1366 01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:53.560 we started talking about a PSR on a Monday night. 1367 01:15:54.079 --> 01:15:56.739 And by the time Thursday rolled around, it had been 1368 01:15:56.800 --> 01:15:58.100 updated like three or four times. 1369 01:15:59.159 --> 01:16:01.279 Well, OK, so early on, if you notice, I think 1370 01:16:01.319 --> 01:16:06.039 we talked about this. You were seeing PSRs changing every day. 1371 01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:06.699 Yeah. 1372 01:16:06.939 --> 01:16:09.520 And Todd Holcomb brought that to my attention. And he 1373 01:16:09.689 --> 01:16:12.130 said he actually told me a couple of weeks ago, 1374 01:16:12.149 --> 01:16:14.710 he sent me an email. He said, hey, Phil, I 1375 01:16:14.770 --> 01:16:17.770 think I have got it figured out. The problem is 1376 01:16:17.829 --> 01:16:22.289 coaches not– coaches and or ADs are not calling scores in. 1377 01:16:22.770 --> 01:16:25.909 And you would think that's a pretty mundane thing to do, right? Well, 1378 01:16:25.949 --> 01:16:28.810 here was the issue, Larry. You touched on it. So 1379 01:16:28.850 --> 01:16:31.050 Todd mentioned in the show Wednesday morning with me. Again, 1380 01:16:31.090 --> 01:16:32.569 I would encourage all of you all to go back 1381 01:16:32.949 --> 01:16:35.489 and watch it. I mean, it's not nothing I did. 1382 01:16:35.609 --> 01:16:39.720 Todd was really spot on. He's very educated in this stuff. 1383 01:16:40.119 --> 01:16:43.600 And he explains it better than anybody. He said that 1384 01:16:44.539 --> 01:16:49.510 the GHSA– had made it to where only, I think, 1385 01:16:49.970 --> 01:16:57.489 one designated person could call in scores or report scores. Yeah. Okay. 1386 01:16:57.670 --> 01:17:01.149 And Larry, what would happen? You with me, Larry? What 1387 01:17:01.189 --> 01:17:07.060 would happen was, let's say it's the athletic director who 1388 01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:11.750 has been anointed to give a particular team score, right? Well, 1389 01:17:12.010 --> 01:17:16.479 what happened as lead director, as you can imagine, has got, oh, 1390 01:17:16.520 --> 01:17:19.159 about 500 more important things to do. 1391 01:17:19.640 --> 01:17:19.819 Yeah. 1392 01:17:20.640 --> 01:17:23.180 So he or she is not able to get the 1393 01:17:23.220 --> 01:17:25.060 score in. Right? 1394 01:17:25.500 --> 01:17:25.680 Yeah. 1395 01:17:25.699 --> 01:17:30.260 So that open-ended factor allows all these PSRs to be 1396 01:17:30.319 --> 01:17:34.189 wrong or incomplete. So they finally, I think, have said 1397 01:17:34.250 --> 01:17:37.369 now that, hey, you can appoint, I should say, a 1398 01:17:37.409 --> 01:17:40.250 couple of different people that will be the official score. 1399 01:17:40.789 --> 01:17:43.090 That's the problem that you had with max preps, Larry. 1400 01:17:43.390 --> 01:17:43.770 That's right. 1401 01:17:45.229 --> 01:17:47.789 I became, and this was years, about 10 years ago, 1402 01:17:47.869 --> 01:17:52.770 maybe even longer. I told this story before. Okay. I 1403 01:17:52.810 --> 01:17:56.779 was so frustrated at so many high school baseball teams 1404 01:17:57.220 --> 01:18:01.920 were not updating their scores on their team page. 1405 01:18:02.399 --> 01:18:02.600 Okay. 1406 01:18:03.699 --> 01:18:06.859 Guys, if y'all go to max preps, that's not max 1407 01:18:06.960 --> 01:18:11.149 preps doing that. Okay. It's the individual teams that manage 1408 01:18:11.189 --> 01:18:12.029 their own pages. 1409 01:18:12.609 --> 01:18:12.810 Yeah. 1410 01:18:13.189 --> 01:18:13.670 You got me? 1411 01:18:14.449 --> 01:18:16.500 Yeah, including stats and all that stuff, yeah. 1412 01:18:16.600 --> 01:18:20.560 That's right. That's right. Max Preps is just a facilitator 1413 01:18:20.579 --> 01:18:21.479 for that. 1414 01:18:22.039 --> 01:18:22.539 Yeah. 1415 01:18:23.199 --> 01:18:27.579 But I got so frustrated, Larry, that I signed up 1416 01:18:27.619 --> 01:18:29.520 to be a team manager. 1417 01:18:31.539 --> 01:18:32.640 For, like, Lounds. 1418 01:18:34.159 --> 01:18:36.159 And this was before Ryan Page was the coach. Now 1419 01:18:36.229 --> 01:18:37.939 I'm going back to you. But I became the team 1420 01:18:37.979 --> 01:18:43.909 manager for like Lowndes, Tift, Valdosta, all these teams, and 1421 01:18:44.050 --> 01:18:46.649 only because I could input the scores and take care 1422 01:18:46.670 --> 01:18:49.229 of the problem like that. So it was a very 1423

01:18:49.289 --> 01:18:51.909 similar situation. But anyway, go ahead, Larry. 1424 01:18:52.369 --> 01:18:56.869 Yeah. So, yeah, so now it looks like they're doing 1425 01:18:56.890 --> 01:18:59.789 a much better job. I think someone at the GHSA 1426 01:19:00.130 --> 01:19:03.270 sent out a memo to all these ADs and head coach. 1427 01:19:03.369 --> 01:19:03.630 That's right. 1428 01:19:03.649 --> 01:19:05.850 We've got to start updating these things. If you guys 1429 01:19:05.899 --> 01:19:12.039 want accurate information– you know, Phil, I worked with, I 1430 01:19:12.079 --> 01:19:15.359 worked with back in my, the start of my career, 1431 01:19:16.020 --> 01:19:20.970 I was in the data services business. Okay. And so 1432 01:19:21.090 --> 01:19:23.850 we had, I worked with a retired military guy. 1433 01:19:23.869 --> 01:19:24.710 Okay. 1434 01:19:25.369 --> 01:19:28.869 And he had an expression. He said, data in, data out. 1435 01:19:29.970 --> 01:19:33.130 The data output is only as good as the input, right? 1436 01:19:33.289 --> 01:19:37.029 If you get garbage output, like we were getting on 1437 01:19:37.069 --> 01:19:39.380 a daily basis, that's because you're getting garbage input. 1438 01:19:39.399 --> 01:19:40.119 Okay. 1439 01:19:40.739 --> 01:19:45.020 So this whole PSR thing is based on the ability 1440 01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:49.439 to put in quality data on a timely basis. Interesting. Yeah. 1441 01:19:49.899 --> 01:19:52.800 So now it seems like we're getting these guys to 1442 01:19:52.960 --> 01:19:56.619 act a lot quicker because now the GHSA is, is 1443 01:19:57.199 --> 01:20:00.010 finally putting their foot down. It's like, you got the 1444 01:20:00.050 --> 01:20:04.510 entire state looking at this PSR on a weekly basis 1445 01:20:04.529 --> 01:20:06.430 and And we're going to have egg on our face 1446 01:20:07.149 --> 01:20:09.939 if this is not done in a timely fashion. And 1447 01:20:09.979 --> 01:20:12.300 it's going to affect your playoff ranking and all that stuff. 1448 01:20:13.279 --> 01:20:16.739 So I think they finally got their point across, and 1449 01:20:16.779 --> 01:20:19.979 they're doing much, much better now. And so now you 1450 01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:24.659 have a situation where you're approaching the back end of 1451 01:20:24.699 --> 01:20:27.829 the season, and the playoff picture is in the next 1452 01:20:27.869 --> 01:20:29.489 two or three weeks, the playoff picture is going to 1453 01:20:29.529 --> 01:20:30.710 start to crystallize some. 1454 01:20:31.810 --> 01:20:37.970 That's right. Todd also mentioned that as of right now, 1455 01:20:38.149 --> 01:20:42.180 you've got about, I think you said about four or 1456 01:20:42.279 --> 01:20:48.180 five teams who under the old system would be eligible 1457 01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:50.100 for the playoffs as at least a four seed. 1458 01:20:50.640 --> 01:20:50.880 Sure. 1459 01:20:51.699 --> 01:20:55.229 And they're going to be out. Now, on the flip 1460 01:20:55.239 --> 01:21:00.550 side of that, it looks like right now, even with 1461 01:21:00.569 --> 01:21:04.399 CF County struggling, Tift County will be a playoff team. 1462 01:21:04.409 --> 01:21:06.529 They'll be one of the 32 teams in Class 6A. 1463 01:21:06.689 --> 01:21:15.380 Yeah, I can see that. Now, what's going to be 1464 01:21:15.439 --> 01:21:19.960 interesting is, you know, we talked about Camden a little 1465 01:21:19.979 --> 01:21:25.640 bit earlier, right? Right. If Camden goes on the trajectory 1466 01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:27.840 that they're going on now and they drop a couple 1467 01:21:27.859 --> 01:21:31.619 more games, they're probably going to lose to Valdosta. They're 1468 01:21:31.640 --> 01:21:35.140 probably going to lose to Colquitt. Yeah. They could beat 1469 01:21:35.220 --> 01:21:38.390 Richmond Hill. But if they lose three out of four 1470 01:21:38.470 --> 01:21:42.829 region games, is their PSR going to sink low enough 1471 01:21:43.390 --> 01:21:47.130 to knock them out? Because right now they're at 19. 1472 01:21:47.149 --> 01:21:50.430 Camden is. Have you got the current PSR up? 1473 01:21:50.970 --> 01:21:51.149 Yeah. 1474 01:21:51.670 --> 01:21:53.409 Okay. 1475 01:21:53.890 --> 01:21:58.189 Yeah, Richmond Hill's at 11 and Camden at 19. Interesting. 1476 01:21:58.989 --> 01:22:04.090 Yeah. That's very interesting. Boy, this PSR is saving some teams. 1477 01:22:05.659 --> 01:22:09.939 It is. It really is. Yeah. Hey, have I taken 1478 01:22:09.979 --> 01:22:13.199 the occasion to say this one thing? How about them Rebels? 1479 01:22:14.239 --> 01:22:22.390 Yeah, man, I'm telling you. How about them Rebels, baby? Oh, and, well, 1480 01:22:22.409 --> 01:22:26.810 here's another one. Congratulations to Josh McFather and the Brooks 1481 01:22:26.829 --> 01:22:31.180 County Trojans. They got a huge– they got their first 1482 01:22:31.220 --> 01:22:31.840 win of the year. 1483 01:22:32.340 --> 01:22:32.939 Yeah. 1484 01:22:33.060 --> 01:22:39.180 And you mark my words, okay. There are teams– Larry, 1485 01:22:39.439 --> 01:22:42.539 you and I have talked about it. Brooks County is 1486 01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:43.359 a slow starter. 1487 01:22:43.819 --> 01:22:44.039 Sure. 1488 01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:48.119 They have been a slow starting team. Every year it's 1489 01:22:48.199 --> 01:22:53.590 just their nature. You know, you've got some of these teams, Larry. Larry, 1490 01:22:53.609 --> 01:22:53.890 you with me? 1491 01:22:54.289 --> 01:22:54.390 Yeah. 1492 01:22:54.880 --> 01:22:57.420 You've got some of these teams who have an identity. 1493 01:22:57.500 --> 01:23:00.100 No matter how many players come and go and graduate, 1494 01:23:01.079 --> 01:23:03.439 you've got teams that have a certain identity to them. 1495 01:23:03.500 --> 01:23:07.579 And Brooks County is one of those teams. They start slow. 1496 01:23:08.140 --> 01:23:12.859 Every year they do this, Larry. They don't get off 4-0, 5-0, 5-1, 6-1. 1497

01:23:12.880 --> 01:23:17.279 They don't do that. They start off like 1-4. And 1498 01:23:17.310 --> 01:23:21.109 you know who that reminds me of? Exactly like them. Well, 1499 01:23:21.130 --> 01:23:27.689 it's kind of interesting. Jeff Littleton. I think his circumstances 1500 01:23:27.729 --> 01:23:29.869 are different now, and I'm not necessarily saying I'm making 1501 01:23:29.890 --> 01:23:33.970 any kind of comparison now, but Jeff Littleton's Bainbridge teams 1502 01:23:35.649 --> 01:23:40.949 did that year after year after year. And where would 1503 01:23:41.010 --> 01:23:46.430 Bainbridge wind up? 1504 01:23:46.869 --> 01:23:49.069 One year they ended up winning the state championship. 1505 01:23:49.479 --> 01:23:52.119 They certainly did. Was it 2018? They defeated the Buford Wolves. 1506 01:23:56.239 --> 01:24:00.229 Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Yeah. Can you say that 1507 01:24:00.350 --> 01:24:02.050 one more time for Kerry Claiborne? 1508 01:24:05.270 --> 01:24:14.170 Larry. Look at Larry. Take two. So in 2018, Jeff 1509 01:24:14.250 --> 01:24:21.220 Littleton's Bainbridge Bearcats defeated the Buford Wolves. And I believe 1510 01:24:21.279 --> 01:24:23.220 it was in a second round or maybe it was 1511 01:24:23.300 --> 01:24:25.220 even a quarterfinal matchup. 1512 01:24:27.119 --> 01:24:29.140 And it was on the road, I believe. It was. 1513 01:24:29.199 --> 01:24:34.229 It was at Beaufort. It was at Beaufort. Have I 1514 01:24:34.239 --> 01:24:35.550 ever told you that? Yeah, go ahead. 1515 01:24:36.069 --> 01:24:40.329 Here's the thing about Brooks County. Whatever they're going to do, 1516 01:24:40.489 --> 01:24:42.090 they're going to have to make their moves soon. 1517 01:24:42.609 --> 01:24:43.789 Agreed. Okay. 1518 01:24:43.930 --> 01:24:46.960 They're currently two and five and sitting at 34 in 1519 01:24:46.979 --> 01:24:47.579 the PSR. 1520 01:24:50.500 --> 01:24:51.220 Where are they at? 1521 01:24:51.199 --> 01:24:53.180 34. 1522 01:24:53.180 --> 01:24:54.800 So they're just on the outside, Larry. 1523 01:24:54.939 --> 01:24:58.899 They're just on the outside looking in. Now, here's the thing. 1524 01:25:00.239 --> 01:25:02.880 There's the what? They're in that region of the. 1525 01:25:02.920 --> 01:25:06.199 What'd you say? Did you say, here's the... Here's the thing. 1526 01:25:06.739 --> 01:25:08.779 I'm just having fun. 1527 01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:10.880 Come on, man. 1528 01:25:10.939 --> 01:25:16.500 I swear you said, here's the... Go ahead, Larry. I'm 1529 01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:17.340 just having fun, man. 1530 01:25:17.380 --> 01:25:18.039 Oh, my God. 1531 01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:21.430 This is like my only night out to have fun. 1532 01:25:21.470 --> 01:25:21.770 Go ahead. 1533 01:25:22.760 --> 01:25:25.380 All right, so here's the thing. 1534 01:25:25.399 --> 01:25:27.880 Hello, boy, Larry. 1535 01:25:32.020 --> 01:25:36.050 So they're currently 2-5. Larry, I thought they only had 1536 01:25:36.130 --> 01:25:38.210 one win. 1537 01:25:40.289 --> 01:25:42.569 But they're 2-5. I must have missed a game in 1538 01:25:42.609 --> 01:25:43.470 there somewhere. Okay, go ahead. 1539 01:25:45.800 --> 01:25:48.579 So they've got three games left. Here are their three 1540 01:25:48.619 --> 01:25:55.319 opponents they have remaining. At Berrien. home against Fitzgerald at 1541 01:25:55.359 --> 01:25:58.439 Jeff Davis. All three of those teams are in the 1542 01:25:58.479 --> 01:25:59.420 top ten of the state. 1543 01:26:00.420 --> 01:26:02.560 Oh, yes. That's a dagger there, man. 1544 01:26:03.720 --> 01:26:04.779 So they're going to have to make a move. They're 1545 01:26:04.800 --> 01:26:07.239 going to have to win at least one, if not two, 1546 01:26:07.770 --> 01:26:13.890 to make that cut. It's going to be tough. 1547 01:26:13.909 --> 01:26:15.170 Yeah. Who's bearing that this week, Larry? 1548 01:26:16.329 --> 01:26:16.909 Brooks County. 1549 01:26:17.729 --> 01:26:18.930 Oh, okay. So that is this week. 1550 01:26:19.090 --> 01:26:19.310 Okay. 1551 01:26:19.350 --> 01:26:19.510 Yeah. 1552 01:26:20.010 --> 01:26:20.829 Up in Nashville, yeah. 1553 01:26:22.189 --> 01:26:22.989 That's going to be a big one. 1554 01:26:23.689 --> 01:26:25.890 So, Lowndes is off, so yours truly will be at 1555 01:26:25.930 --> 01:26:26.350 that game. 1556 01:26:26.949 --> 01:26:34.289 Okay. Yeah. There you go. Let's read some comments. Steven, listen, 1557 01:26:34.329 --> 01:26:35.829 I'm going to let you handle this one with me. 1558 01:26:36.569 --> 01:26:44.170 Steven K. Wynn says, Phil, McPherson, A. McPherson compared to 1559 01:26:44.250 --> 01:26:52.850 Luke Nickel. Hmm. Boy, that's a tough one, Steve. I mean, yeah. 1560 01:26:54.590 --> 01:26:56.649 I just don't have– I don't know. I was going 1561 01:26:56.670 --> 01:26:58.229 to say I don't have enough of a sample size 1562 01:26:58.310 --> 01:27:02.949 on McPherson, but I don't suspect that anything he's going 1563 01:27:02.970 --> 01:27:05.210 to do is going to change my opinion of him, 1564 01:27:06.010 --> 01:27:13.479 which is already sky high. Luke Nickel, Larry, was one 1565 01:27:13.520 --> 01:27:16.859 of the absolute finest quarterbacks I've ever seen in my life. 1566 01:27:18.449 --> 01:27:20.939 Had him two years. I sat there on the sideline 1567 01:27:20.960 --> 01:27:27.199 when Milton hosted Lee County. What a ball game that was. 1568 01:27:29.140 --> 01:27:29.779 And I saw. 1569 01:27:29.699 --> 01:27:31.119 Luke Nickle play lights out. 1570 01:27:31.199 --> 01:27:31.659 Go ahead. 1571 01:27:31.880 --> 01:27:34.460 I'm not going to compare. I'm not going to make 1572 01:27:34.500 --> 01:27:40.079 a direct comparison. It's about quarterback talent of McPherson versus Nickle. 1573 01:27:41.060 --> 01:27:46.180 I'm going to answer that by comparing how– State champions. No, no. 1574 01:27:47.479 --> 01:27:51.560 comparing how important each one of those players are to 1575 01:27:51.600 -->

01:27:56.880 their teams. Got you. How important is McPherson to Central? 1576 01:27:57.300 --> 01:27:59.100 I think that's a great take. 1577 01:27:59.720 --> 01:28:02.930 And how important is Nichols to Milton, right? How important 1578 01:28:03.029 --> 01:28:07.989 is Nichols to Milton? Both of them have great supporting 1579 01:28:08.029 --> 01:28:12.689 cast members around them. If you took them both out 1580 01:28:12.710 --> 01:28:15.319 of the equation, if you took McPherson out of the 1581 01:28:15.359 --> 01:28:19.239 equation at Central. Could Central still win? Yes. Could they 1582 01:28:19.279 --> 01:28:22.260 be as dominant? No. If you took Nichols out of 1583 01:28:22.300 --> 01:28:24.899 the equation, could Milton still win? Yes. Could they be 1584 01:28:25.020 --> 01:28:25.579 as dominant? 1585 01:28:25.659 --> 01:28:25.880 No. 1586 01:28:27.140 --> 01:28:29.479 So both of them, I would say, are head and 1587 01:28:29.550 --> 01:28:33.430 shoulders the MVP of their teams. And that's how I 1588 01:28:33.449 --> 01:28:33.930 would compare. 1589 01:28:33.949 --> 01:28:39.689 That's a good take. That's a very good take. That's 1590 01:28:39.750 --> 01:28:43.359 the way you compare if that's the right word. Because 1591 01:28:43.399 --> 01:28:51.739 I think you're right. Milton would win without Luke Nickel. 1592 01:28:52.920 --> 01:28:54.619 And I think they'd be okay because they have so 1593 01:28:54.640 --> 01:28:59.319 many pieces. But on the surface... To a man, Luke 1594 01:28:59.380 --> 01:29:04.079 Nichol was just– I don't know how to say it anyway. 1595 01:29:04.100 --> 01:29:12.770 He was dominant, but what I'm seeing with McPherson is 1596 01:29:12.850 --> 01:29:18.689 something next level. He went against one of the best defenses, Larry, 1597 01:29:19.710 --> 01:29:22.720 in Lee County. That's the thing that gets me. These 1598 01:29:22.779 --> 01:29:27.979 are like Houston County. Now, Houston County's defense had been struggling. 1599 01:29:28.689 --> 01:29:29.229 I'll give you that. 1600 01:29:29.909 --> 01:29:30.109 Yeah. 1601 01:29:30.350 --> 01:29:35.590 Right? But what was not struggling was Lee County's– I'm sorry, 1602 01:29:35.609 --> 01:29:39.229 what was not struggling was Houston County's offense. And they 1603 01:29:39.289 --> 01:29:40.989 held Houston– and I know this is not an Aiden 1604 01:29:41.020 --> 01:29:48.020 McPherson question, but, I mean, for TTC to do what 1605 01:29:48.039 --> 01:29:55.699 they did shutting down– Yeah. Houston County's offense was just unbelievable. 1606 01:29:55.960 --> 01:30:01.159 So you're seeing– the most dominant quarterback, offensive player in 1607 01:30:01.180 --> 01:30:06.210 the state right now, coupled with the most dominant defensive 1608 01:30:06.670 --> 01:30:10.090 unit of the season. And that is a deadly combination. 1609 01:30:10.970 --> 01:30:15.689 Yeah, that's why I said that they're both McPherson is 1610 01:30:15.810 --> 01:30:20.609 surrounded now by a fantastic supporting cast. Luke Nichols was 1611 01:30:20.670 --> 01:30:25.479 surrounded by a great supporting cast. If you took Nichols 1612 01:30:25.819 --> 01:30:27.890 and transposed him and. 1613 01:30:27.810 --> 01:30:31.350 It's nickel it's nickel by the way just one nickel. 1614 01:30:31.329 --> 01:30:34.079 Oh just just one well he played so good it 1615 01:30:34.140 --> 01:30:38.479 seemed like there are multiple nickels so if you took 1616 01:30:39.279 --> 01:30:42.039 nickel and put him i i like it my way 1617 01:30:42.079 --> 01:30:47.380 if you took nickels and put him in thomas county 1618 01:30:47.399 --> 01:30:51.189 central would he be just as good at central of 1619 01:30:51.270 --> 01:30:56.250 course And would Central be just as good and dominant 1620 01:30:56.409 --> 01:30:58.470 with Nickel as the QB? 1621 01:30:58.529 --> 01:30:59.010 Of course. 1622 01:30:59.609 --> 01:31:03.920 If you took Aiden McPherson and put him in Milton's 1623 01:31:04.159 --> 01:31:09.100 role at the time that Nickel was there, of course 1624 01:31:09.159 --> 01:31:11.840 they would be just as good. I mean, look how 1625 01:31:11.899 --> 01:31:15.000 good Rome was when Aiden McPherson was there. The guy 1626 01:31:15.079 --> 01:31:17.600 is a difference maker, right? So I think you do 1627 01:31:17.640 --> 01:31:21.340 a disservice, or really anyone does a disservice, by asking 1628 01:31:21.359 --> 01:31:27.989 the question, how does McPherson compare to Luke Nickel? Just 1629 01:31:28.229 --> 01:31:32.310 because they were different teams, different times, played against different opponents, 1630 01:31:32.350 --> 01:31:34.949 that kind of stuff. But I think the better question is, 1631 01:31:35.510 --> 01:31:39.449 how central were they to the programs they played in? 1632 01:31:42.590 --> 01:31:48.590 Yeah. Jacqueline Pollock is checking in from Chicago. Jacqueline Pollock, 1633 01:31:49.189 --> 01:31:52.640 Your favorite TCC alumni checking in from the Windy City. 1634 01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:58.100 What's going on, Jacqueline? David Woods. Guys, let's just say, 1635 01:31:58.220 --> 01:32:00.640 call it even. Yeah, you know, and I think, you know, 1636 01:32:01.819 --> 01:32:04.720 it is one of those conversations that it's almost like 1637 01:32:04.739 --> 01:32:07.850 we're splitting hairs. You know, because, I mean, we're looking 1638 01:32:07.899 --> 01:32:12.189 for that finite difference. And I don't know. But anyway, 1639 01:32:12.250 --> 01:32:14.050 it's going to be fun watching TCC the rest of 1640 01:32:14.069 --> 01:32:14.750 the way for sure. 1641 01:32:14.789 --> 01:32:15.010 Yeah. 1642 01:32:15.289 --> 01:32:18.100 All right. Let's see what we got. Larry Pope says, 1643 01:32:18.239 --> 01:32:21.409 Milton will not win without Luke, especially Phil, will not 1644 01:32:21.449 --> 01:32:24.489 win without Luke, Phil, especially if they run to Lee 1645 01:32:24.510 --> 01:32:26.750 County again without him, and that's when they

had Cromaw 1646 01:32:26.789 --> 01:32:30.090 in there. By the way, have y'all seen Usmani Cromaw 1647 01:32:30.130 --> 01:32:31.369 dominating down at FSU? 1648 01:32:33.350 --> 01:32:34.989 I think that's going to be a limited deal. 1649 01:32:35.939 --> 01:32:36.340 What do you mean? 1650 01:32:37.779 --> 01:32:39.760 I think Cromaw's going to end up transferring. 1651 01:32:40.939 --> 01:32:48.060 Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. Let's see, Kendrick Sanders. Kendrick, where 1652 01:32:48.079 --> 01:32:50.399 you at, dog? Let me go to Kendrick. Where's Kendrick at? 1653 01:32:52.729 --> 01:33:01.850 Kendrick's my man. Kendrick, what's going on, brother? Y'all know Kendrick? 1654 01:33:03.130 --> 01:33:06.310 You talking about Kendrick Sanders? Yeah. He says, Tiff, got 1655 01:33:06.329 --> 01:33:09.409 to beat two of those last three games. What you think? 1656 01:33:11.430 --> 01:33:12.909 Well, it ain't going to come this week against TCC. 1657 01:33:12.930 --> 01:33:13.130 TCC. 1658 01:33:15.369 --> 01:33:20.409 And then they've got veterans, and then they've got Lee County. 1659 01:33:21.640 --> 01:33:22.079 Is that right? 1660 01:33:23.600 --> 01:33:27.140 Yeah, so they've got– did they just play Northside? So 1661 01:33:27.159 --> 01:33:31.000 they've got– yeah, they're going to be at Central. They'll 1662 01:33:31.020 --> 01:33:33.640 be hosting Lee County and then at veterans. 1663 01:33:34.460 --> 01:33:37.279 Okay, so let me make a couple of comments here. Yes, 1664 01:33:37.340 --> 01:33:42.029 they can win two of their last three. It's not 1665 01:33:42.050 --> 01:33:42.449 going to be TCC. 1666 01:33:42.529 --> 01:33:42.630 TCC. 1667 01:33:45.350 --> 01:33:51.329 I think the Tiff County plays, for whatever reason, plays 1668 01:33:51.409 --> 01:33:57.029 Lee County very tough. We saw in a lot of people, 1669 01:33:57.229 --> 01:34:03.590 and where is my buddy Steve? Tiff County brought a 1670 01:34:04.029 --> 01:34:09.760 huge crowd to Lee County last year and came within 1671 01:34:09.800 --> 01:34:14.409 an eyelash of upsetting Lee County, at Lee County. Do 1672 01:34:14.449 --> 01:34:18.689 you all remember that? Larry? 1673 01:34:20.050 --> 01:34:20.810 Do I remember what? 1674 01:34:21.210 --> 01:34:21.810 Do you remember that? 1675 01:34:23.329 --> 01:34:24.170 Ask the question again. 1676 01:34:25.989 --> 01:34:29.640 So, Tiff County goes to Lee County last year. Takes 1677 01:34:29.699 --> 01:34:32.920 a huge crowd. I remember Stephen K. Wynn was telling 1678 01:34:32.939 --> 01:34:36.260 me about how big a crowd Tiff County had. Tiff 1679 01:34:36.279 --> 01:34:40.119 County goes to Lee County, and they had a late 1680 01:34:40.180 --> 01:34:41.319 touchdown called back. 1681 01:34:41.800 --> 01:34:41.920 Right. 1682 01:34:42.619 --> 01:34:45.560 That would have given Tiff County basically the win, or 1683 01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:48.000 at least a late lead. But anyway, shoulda, woulda, coulda. 1684 01:34:49.579 --> 01:34:52.680 Tiff County always plays Lee County very good. Remember that 1685 01:34:52.699 --> 01:34:54.619 thing I talked about, different identities, different teams? 1686 01:34:54.779 --> 01:34:55.300 Sure, yeah. 1687 01:34:55.619 --> 01:34:57.880 So, you know, I would say Tiff County has a 1688 01:34:57.899 --> 01:35:02.890 chance against Lee. I think Tiff County can beat Veterans. So, they, 1689 01:35:03.189 --> 01:35:05.970 of course, will not beat TCC, but neither will anybody else. 1690 01:35:07.090 --> 01:35:11.180 All right. Central will– here's the way I'll– I see 1691 01:35:11.199 --> 01:35:13.859 the last three for, for Tiff County. And, and I'm 1692 01:35:13.880 --> 01:35:15.060 going to say this cause I hope they put it 1693 01:35:15.100 --> 01:35:16.859 on their bulletin board to inspire their team. 1694 01:35:16.890 --> 01:35:18.850 I know what you're about to say. They're not going 1695 01:35:18.869 --> 01:35:20.569 to win anyway. It's just what you're going to say. 1696 01:35:20.590 --> 01:35:24.439 No, I think they can beat veterans, but that's about it. So, uh, 1697 01:35:24.550 --> 01:35:27.649 I definitely not central. They're going to probably lose that 1698 01:35:27.710 --> 01:35:31.670 one by 28 or more, uh, against Lee County. If 1699 01:35:31.710 --> 01:35:33.890 it's a dry night, there's no rain, that kind of stuff. 1700 01:35:34.430 --> 01:35:35.810 I think Lee County is going to win that one 1701 01:35:35.850 --> 01:35:37.250 by probably two, two scores. 1702 01:35:37.270 --> 01:35:38.770 Okay. 1703 01:35:39.529 --> 01:35:42.310 Um, And then at veterans, it's going to be very, 1704 01:35:42.329 --> 01:35:45.090 very close through four quarters, and I think they can 1705 01:35:45.109 --> 01:35:47.170 pull that one out. I would not be surprised if 1706 01:35:47.210 --> 01:35:49.550 they go 0-3 in the last three games. 1707 01:35:50.850 --> 01:35:57.039 No, no, no. All right. Let's see here. Let's see 1708 01:35:57.060 --> 01:36:00.619 what we got. Let's see what we got here. Mitch 1709 01:36:00.680 --> 01:36:02.800 Mitchell says, go, Pat, go. 1710 01:36:04.920 --> 01:36:07.859 So Larry Pope says, no, he won't, Larry. Don't be 1711 01:36:07.939 --> 01:36:09.920 wishing that. I'm not sure what you're referring to. 1712 01:36:12.359 --> 01:36:18.010 I don't either. Let's see. Jacqueline Pollock says, will TCC 1713 01:36:18.050 --> 01:36:22.170 be tested anymore this regular season? Well, who they got? 1714 01:36:22.210 --> 01:36:25.270 Well, maybe a little bit with coffee. 1715 01:36:26.939 --> 01:36:31.600 Yeah. TB has just got a bunch of laughing emojis. 1716 01:36:32.479 --> 01:36:32.640 Yeah. 1717 01:36:34.279 --> 01:36:34.920 Don't know what that is. 1718 01:36:35.899 --> 01:36:40.829 Oh, Larry Pope says, my comment about chroma transferring. Oh, okay. 1719 01:36:40.909 --> 01:36:43.909 I got you. So, Jacqueline, to answer your question, TCC 1720 01:36:43.949 --> 01:36:49.149 is going to have TIFT. They're going to have Copy.

1721 01:36:50.590 --> 01:36:51.229 And who's the other game? 1722 01:36:52.130 --> 01:36:52.810 At Northside. 1723 01:36:54.289 --> 01:37:02.189 I'll tell you this. Boy, Daniel Boone Williams, he's got 1724 01:37:02.229 --> 01:37:13.170 those young men playing lights out. That is– I don't– Again, 1725 01:37:13.270 --> 01:37:14.489 it's hard for me to say that anything's going to 1726 01:37:14.510 --> 01:37:18.319 be close right now with TCC, but, yeah. Daniel Boone-Williams, 1727 01:37:18.340 --> 01:37:21.699 and I've said this forever. Yeah, everybody calls him Boone. 1728 01:37:22.159 --> 01:37:22.340 Yeah. 1729 01:37:22.979 --> 01:37:28.439 The guy is one of the best coaches in Georgia. Remember, 1730 01:37:28.500 --> 01:37:31.239 he takes over a Langston Hughes team that was also down. 1731 01:37:31.760 --> 01:37:32.000 Sure. 1732 01:37:32.020 --> 01:37:32.920 Remember that? 1733 01:37:34.319 --> 01:37:36.380 He did. I mean, he did a phenomenal job with 1734 01:37:36.399 --> 01:37:36.800 those guys. 1735 01:37:37.079 --> 01:37:39.039 Yeah, Hughes was not– like, that's the thing about it. 1736 01:37:39.279 --> 01:37:40.939 People look at some of these teams and think, oh, 1737 01:37:40.960 --> 01:37:46.939 they've always been dominant. No, they haven't. Langston when Milton, okay. When, 1738 01:37:47.260 --> 01:37:53.020 before Adam Clack, Milton was, they were just another football team. 1739 01:37:53.539 --> 01:37:53.739 Yeah. 1740 01:37:54.760 --> 01:37:56.899 Adam Clack comes in, builds it, hands it over to 1741 01:37:56.939 --> 01:38:00.100 Ben Reeves. Ben Reeves has continued to build it. And yeah, 1742 01:38:00.119 --> 01:38:05.060 they got a great, a great team there. Um, but yeah, man, 1743 01:38:05.119 --> 01:38:12.149 I just don't, uh, yeah, I don't know. Um, What 1744 01:38:12.189 --> 01:38:15.149 was that, TB? TB, what's going on with TB? 1745 01:38:15.520 --> 01:38:18.579 So somebody, Ken Washington, and I've heard, I've seen others, 1746 01:38:18.739 --> 01:38:21.520 they want us to talk about Grayson and Newton. 1747 01:38:23.199 --> 01:38:23.500 What's that? 1748 01:38:24.399 --> 01:38:26.069 Grayson versus Newton this coming Friday. 1749 01:38:26.609 --> 01:38:31.949 Jamie Fraley Seager Mrs. Camden County, is checking in. What's up, Jamie? So, 1750 01:38:31.989 --> 01:38:34.180 Field is saying Tiff will beat Lee County. No, that's 1751 01:38:34.220 --> 01:38:40.399 not what I said. I said Tiff County could give 1752 01:38:40.420 --> 01:38:42.800 Lee County a game. I do believe that. But, you know, 1753 01:38:42.920 --> 01:38:44.119 Tiff County is just so far down right now. 1754 01:38:44.140 --> 01:38:44.779 I don't know. 1755 01:38:44.800 --> 01:38:51.829 Anyway, Larry Pope, TB, laughing emoji, laughing emoji. Laughing emoji. Anyway, 1756 01:38:52.789 --> 01:38:55.010 so what were you asking me? 1757 01:38:55.149 --> 01:38:56.829 Grayson versus Newton this week. 1758 01:38:57.670 --> 01:39:03.819 Okay, let me say this. Does

anybody know Newton probably 1759 01:39:03.840 --> 01:39:06.359 has got the best running back in the state of Georgia, Larry? 1760 01:39:08.239 --> 01:39:14.319 Have y'all seen Kevin Hartsfield? Larry? 1761 01:39:14.550 --> 01:39:15.189 I haven't. Hmm. 1762 01:39:16.449 --> 01:39:17.569 Dude, he's unbelievable, man. 1763 01:39:17.710 --> 01:39:20.130 Is he the reason why they're undefeated? 1764 01:39:21.210 --> 01:39:26.189 Big reason. Although, I think he actually missed a game 1765 01:39:26.789 --> 01:39:29.229 here recently because of injury, if I'm not mistaken. So, 1766 01:39:29.270 --> 01:39:32.550 he's certainly not all that they have. But then they've 1767 01:39:32.609 --> 01:39:37.680 also got quite a wide receiver who is also considered 1768 01:39:37.699 --> 01:39:38.920 to be one of the best in the state. 1769 01:39:39.520 --> 01:39:39.699 Yeah. 1770 01:39:39.800 --> 01:39:43.460 So, man, watch out. I think there's some teams to 1771 01:39:43.500 --> 01:39:49.699 watch out for. I'm not saying they're going to win. But, man, 1772 01:39:49.720 --> 01:39:53.890 there are some horses in Class 7A. Like, we didn't 1773 01:39:53.930 --> 01:39:58.710 know that. Okay, I get it. But Newton, Brookwood, you know, 1774 01:39:58.890 --> 01:40:03.010 everybody had signed off on Brookwood. I think we've yet 1775 01:40:03.050 --> 01:40:05.069 to see the best of Colquitt County, guys. I really 1776 01:40:05.090 --> 01:40:05.590 believe that. 1777 01:40:11.029 --> 01:40:14.000 So, here's the way that I would view Grayson. Grayson, 1778 01:40:14.039 --> 01:40:17.729 for whatever reason– just doesn't seem like an explosive football 1779 01:40:17.750 --> 01:40:23.069 team like they have been in the past, right? But admittedly, 1780 01:40:23.350 --> 01:40:25.850 they have played some really, really tough competition, especially in 1781 01:40:25.869 --> 01:40:28.670 the non-region portion of their schedule. Has that made them 1782 01:40:28.729 --> 01:40:32.140 better for the long stretch, the long haul? I don't know. 1783 01:40:33.300 --> 01:40:35.539 Do they seem to be playing better football than they 1784 01:40:35.819 --> 01:40:40.500 did in the beginning? Yes. But these two teams seem 1785 01:40:40.520 --> 01:40:44.819 to have two different identities right now. Newton seems to 1786 01:40:44.859 --> 01:40:49.489 be an explosive type of team that lives for explosive plays, right? 1787 01:40:49.510 --> 01:40:50.869 They're big fig Newton. 1788 01:40:51.510 --> 01:40:56.409 That's right. So have you ever tried the apple fig Newton? No, 1789 01:40:56.850 --> 01:40:58.189 I haven't. Fantastic. 1790 01:40:58.229 --> 01:41:02.489 Really? Well, Larry, my thing is, is that when it 1791 01:41:02.550 --> 01:41:03.609 becomes an apple Newton? 1792 01:41:05.380 --> 01:41:10.579 Maybe not. Maybe not. But I will say that the 1793 01:41:11.119 --> 01:41:18.010 apple Newton is– almost as heavy as the regular flavored 1794 01:41:18.020 --> 01:41:20.670 Fig Newton. And I guess you could call that a 1795 01:41:20.750 --> 01:41:24.369 gravity Newton. But I digress. Okay. 1796 01:41:24.470 --> 01:41:26.729 Well, but wait a minute. No, no, no. You start 1797 01:41:26.750 --> 01:41:28.930 the conversation. We've got to finish it. So if it's 1798 01:41:28.970 --> 01:41:31.529 an apple, you asked me if I had tried the 1799 01:41:31.760 --> 01:41:32.920 apple Fig Newton. 1800 01:41:33.359 --> 01:41:33.539 Yeah. 1801 01:41:34.020 --> 01:41:38.300 Okay. Let's keep in mind the filling in a Fig 1802 01:41:38.380 --> 01:41:39.640 Newton comes from what? 1803 01:41:41.039 --> 01:41:41.579 A fig. Right. 1804 01:41:42.180 --> 01:41:42.460 Right. 1805 01:41:42.899 --> 01:41:46.869 But you got to figure out, Phil, or you got 1806 01:41:46.890 --> 01:41:52.069 to acknowledge that when something has been around for a while. 1807 01:41:52.090 --> 01:41:56.229 Did you say you've got to figure out? 1808 01:41:56.949 --> 01:41:57.149 Yeah. 1809 01:41:57.670 --> 01:41:58.829 That's pretty good, Larry. 1810 01:41:59.609 --> 01:42:03.930 So when something has been around for a while, that thing, 1811 01:42:04.170 --> 01:42:08.939 that brand becomes a verb. Or it becomes the identity 1812 01:42:09.079 --> 01:42:11.310 of that entire class of things, right? 1813 01:42:11.470 --> 01:42:12.289 Okay, I get it. 1814 01:42:12.529 --> 01:42:16.350 So whether it's, you know, remember Xerox? No one says copying. 1815 01:42:16.789 --> 01:42:20.810 That's right. We need a Xerox ad. Absolutely. I want 1816 01:42:21.109 --> 01:42:22.149 a what? 1817 01:42:23.729 --> 01:42:25.569 You want a Coke. And then what flavor? 1818 01:42:26.090 --> 01:42:28.770 We only have Pepsi. Well, yeah, but I want a Coke. Yeah, 1819 01:42:28.789 --> 01:42:29.720 I get what you're saying. 1820 01:42:29.949 --> 01:42:31.000 So the case with Fig Moons is. 1821 01:42:31.020 --> 01:42:33.039 The reason that is, be first at whatever you do. 1822 01:42:33.739 --> 01:42:36.250 Yeah, so... With the case of Fig Newtons, Fig Newtons 1823 01:42:36.310 --> 01:42:38.909 is a standard when it comes to those types of cookies. 1824 01:42:38.989 --> 01:42:41.970 So when you introduce a new flavor, it's a flavor 1825 01:42:42.069 --> 01:42:43.069 of a Fig Newton. 1826 01:42:46.829 --> 01:42:50.149 You're right. You're right. Even though it becomes an Apple Newton, 1827 01:42:50.289 --> 01:42:55.029 it's still a Fig Newton. It's almost like Led Zeppelin. 1828 01:42:55.909 --> 01:42:56.329 Okay. 1829 01:42:56.930 --> 01:43:01.510 Or let's make it better. It's almost like Leonard Skinner. Now, 1830 01:43:01.590 --> 01:43:06.369 none of those guys in Leonard Skinner are... or any 1831 01:43:06.409 --> 01:43:09.850 of the original members of Leonard Skinner, right? But they 1832 01:43:09.909 --> 01:43:14.350 are performing as a facsimile thereof. Right? 1833 01:43:14.810 --> 01:43:15.060 Yeah. 1834 01:43:15.609 --> 01:43:18.699 Okay. 1835 01:43:19.119 --> 01:43:21.600 Guys, that's why you need to

tune in every Monday night. 1836 01:43:21.619 --> 01:43:23.640 You never know what we're going to talk about. 1837 01:43:23.659 --> 01:43:28.380 I mean, Fig Newtons and Larry actually making an unintended 1838 01:43:28.439 --> 01:43:33.539 pun when he said it, I don't know how he 1839 01:43:33.680 --> 01:43:39.510 used it, but it was brilliant. When he said, I figure, 1840 01:43:40.810 --> 01:43:43.350 and he didn't even realize it. I was like, Larry. 1841 01:43:44.109 --> 01:43:46.789 That's just the way it works in the noodle sometimes, man. 1842 01:43:47.050 --> 01:43:52.609 You just stumbled upon a pun. You stumbled upon, Larry. Oh, man, 1843 01:43:52.649 --> 01:43:56.529 we just keep going all night long, can't we? Trish 1844 01:43:56.710 --> 01:43:59.949 Martin is checking in, and she is a Carrollton fan. 1845 01:44:00.710 --> 01:44:05.630 And Trish just caught my attention. Carrollton checking in, go Trojans. 1846 01:44:06.239 --> 01:44:13.630 Yeah, absolutely. So you got what started this whole Fig Newton. 1847 01:44:13.710 --> 01:44:15.850 I can't remember how we branched off in the Fig 1848 01:44:15.890 --> 01:44:19.050 Newton talk when it comes to Grayson versus, oh, Grayson 1849 01:44:19.090 --> 01:44:23.260 versus Newton. There we go. So Newton is one of 1850 01:44:23.300 --> 01:44:26.979 those teams that is explosive. They seem to live and 1851 01:44:27.020 --> 01:44:30.960 die on explosives this year. Grayson seems to be the 1852 01:44:31.000 --> 01:44:35.409 complete opposite. This year they seem to be They seem 1853 01:44:35.430 --> 01:44:39.890 to want to rely on a big physical four-quarter type 1854 01:44:39.930 --> 01:44:43.109 of football game. So if Grayson can turn this into 1855 01:44:43.149 --> 01:44:46.310 a four-quarter game, I think they got a chance to 1856 01:44:46.350 --> 01:44:53.100 beat Newton. If they don't, I figure that Newton is 1857 01:44:53.119 --> 01:44:53.979 going to come out on top. 1858 01:44:56.479 --> 01:45:02.970 Now, just to take this a step further, guess who's 1859 01:45:03.029 --> 01:45:03.869 coming and checking in? 1860 01:45:04.520 --> 01:45:04.970 Who's that? 1861 01:45:07.270 --> 01:45:14.960 Brian Jones from where? Peach County. Get it? 1862 01:45:16.170 --> 01:45:16.590 I get it. 1863 01:45:17.029 --> 01:45:19.170 Peach. We got peaches in the conversation now. 1864 01:45:19.569 --> 01:45:25.149 Listen, one of my favorite things to do. So I've 1865 01:45:25.170 --> 01:45:29.970 got a pretty big territory. But it takes me through Barney, 1866 01:45:30.029 --> 01:45:33.149 Georgia a lot, going to different parts of my territory. 1867 01:45:33.760 --> 01:45:36.939 And in Barney, Georgia, they've got some peach pits. They've 1868 01:45:36.960 --> 01:45:39.609 got some peach stops on the way. And in the 1869 01:45:39.689 --> 01:45:43.050 summertime when it's peach season, I love to stop there 1870 01:45:43.130 --> 01:45:47.630 and get fresh peaches and peach ice cream. It's fantastic. 1871 01:45:48.229 --> 01:45:50.829 You know, though, I'm not a big peach fan. Yeah. 1872 01:45:51.270 --> 01:45:52.640 They also have blueberry ice cream. 1873 01:45:53.069 --> 01:45:57.199 Yeah, I like blueberry. Kerry Claiborne, Phil, come tailgate with 1874 01:45:57.260 --> 01:45:59.720 us for the Buford Homecoming Parade this Friday. I'm smoking 1875 01:45:59.760 --> 01:46:01.800 a pork butt, and we will have a big spread. 1876 01:46:01.819 --> 01:46:09.850 Larry's not invited. Larry's been thinking on Trisha Martin. 1877 01:46:09.909 --> 01:46:13.079 He's still sore about Bainbridge beating Buford back in 2018. 1878 01:46:13.069 --> 01:46:16.449 Oh, come on, Larry. I mean, come on, Kerry. You 1879 01:46:16.470 --> 01:46:19.609 can get over it. Come on, Kerry. That was a 1880 01:46:19.649 --> 01:46:23.090 long time ago. Trisha Martin says, you guys must be 1881 01:46:23.170 --> 01:46:26.880 hungry tonight. I know Larry's always waiting to eat before 1882 01:46:26.939 --> 01:46:27.760 we do the show. 1883 01:46:28.159 --> 01:46:28.439 Yes. 1884 01:46:28.479 --> 01:46:28.819 Right, Larry? 1885 01:46:29.380 --> 01:46:29.579 Yes. 1886 01:46:29.600 --> 01:46:31.399 So I'm sure Larry's got to be hungry. 1887 01:46:31.640 --> 01:46:35.460 We went to the Hayhara Honey Bee Festival not this 1888 01:46:35.500 --> 01:46:41.310 past weekend. I can't remember. It was recently. But we 1889 01:46:41.329 --> 01:46:44.489 got some peach butter from one of the vendors. It 1890 01:46:44.550 --> 01:46:45.270 is fantastic. 1891 01:46:47.710 --> 01:46:49.510 Yeah, now I like cinnamon butter. 1892 01:46:50.250 --> 01:46:50.750 Yeah. 1893 01:46:50.829 --> 01:46:53.470 And by the way, did you guys know Waffle House 1894 01:46:54.229 --> 01:46:55.569 does not have real butter? 1895 01:46:56.409 --> 01:46:58.310 They don't? What do they have, parquet? 1896 01:46:59.350 --> 01:47:04.680 Well, yes. Guys, do y'all know how bad... that fake 1897 01:47:04.840 --> 01:47:07.020 buttery as margarine, as they call it. 1898 01:47:08.760 --> 01:47:11.260 Did you find the one thing at Waffle House that 1899 01:47:11.319 --> 01:47:11.840 is not good? 1900 01:47:13.699 --> 01:47:16.909 Yeah, because I asked for some real butter the other night. Oh, well, 1901 01:47:16.930 --> 01:47:18.630 I said the other night. It's been a while. But 1902 01:47:18.689 --> 01:47:22.449 I asked for real butter. And they're like, all we 1903 01:47:22.489 --> 01:47:25.229 have is the spread. They call it spread. 1904 01:47:25.829 --> 01:47:27.229 Yeah. 1905 01:47:27.529 --> 01:47:31.439 So I looked at the ingredients. Do you want to 1906 01:47:31.460 --> 01:47:33.130 know what the spread is? 1907 01:47:33.640 --> 01:47:33.949 What's that? 1908 01:47:34.880 --> 01:47:36.380 It's vegetable oil. 1909 01:47:36.739 --> 01:47:41.920 Oh, yuck. So Trish Martin says, you guys must be 1910 01:47:42.020 --> 01:47:44.420 hungry tonight. Trish, I'm always hungry. 1911 01:47:44.439 --> 01:47:45.680 Yeah, I just read

that. 1912 01:47:46.239 --> 01:47:46.840 Always hungry. 1913 01:47:46.960 --> 01:47:52.090 You do? Yeah, that's what I said. Larry is usually basis. Larry. Yeah. 1914 01:47:53.310 --> 01:47:55.409 Just read that. 1915 01:47:55.829 --> 01:47:58.149 Listen, I know I talk about food all the time 1916 01:47:58.329 --> 01:48:00.250 and that's because I like to eat all the time. 1917 01:48:00.829 --> 01:48:03.470 But I'm not eating as much nowadays. I've lost about 1918 01:48:03.470 --> 01:48:07.590 10 pounds, and my intention is to lose another 10 pounds. 1919 01:48:07.649 --> 01:48:09.649 And so I don't eat as much as you guys 1920 01:48:09.689 --> 01:48:10.100 think I do. 1921 01:48:10.640 --> 01:48:14.560 Yeah. No, you look good. You look really good. Tricia 1922 01:48:14.579 --> 01:48:17.279 Martin's got a pretty interesting question here. Now, this is 1923 01:48:17.319 --> 01:48:20.939 something we need to devote a show to. If y'all remember, 1924 01:48:21.140 --> 01:48:24.180 I wrote, I think I've done two or three different 1925 01:48:24.279 --> 01:48:28.560 series on this. That is the top high school football 1926 01:48:28.579 --> 01:48:32.680 stadiums in the state. Now, y'all want to talk about 1927 01:48:32.739 --> 01:48:34.920 something that generates engagement? 1928 01:48:35.520 --> 01:48:35.699 Yeah. 1929 01:48:37.500 --> 01:48:42.329 Nothing like that did. Yeah. everybody would give us their 1930 01:48:42.409 --> 01:48:46.750 vote for the top high school football stadium, right? Now, 1931 01:48:46.850 --> 01:48:49.489 Trish Martin and Kerry, I'm going to go to your question, too, 1932 01:48:49.510 --> 01:48:54.510 because I like it. So Trish Martin asked, which stadiums 1933 01:48:54.529 --> 01:49:00.020 have the best concession stand food? So let's think about this. 1934 01:49:01.380 --> 01:49:06.460 As we travel the state, I'll tell you one. I'll 1935 01:49:06.520 --> 01:49:09.800 answer the question. And I'll give you one that's not 1936 01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:17.979 in Georgia, but it's just across the line in Madison County. 1937 01:49:19.739 --> 01:49:23.890 The Madison County Cowboys, which is where Randy McPherson came from, right? 1938 01:49:25.010 --> 01:49:28.029 It's where Mike Coe, the coach at Coffee, came from. 1939 01:49:29.489 --> 01:49:35.710 But Coffee's concession stand. Do you know what their featured 1940 01:49:35.869 --> 01:49:42.130 item is? And people stand in line for, like, a long, 1941 01:49:42.470 --> 01:49:45.109 long way. Really? Do you know what it is? 1942 01:49:47.130 --> 01:49:48.010 Pulled pork sandwich. 1943 01:49:49.689 --> 01:49:54.800 Fried gizzards. Whoa, look out. That was close. 1944 01:49:57.039 --> 01:50:00.100 Listen, I grew up in the South since I was five, 1945 01:50:00.779 --> 01:50:05.109 and I know that people– like to eat livers and gizzards, 1946 01:50:05.229 --> 01:50:09.289 that kind of stuff. But chicken gizzards, that has never 1947 01:50:09.350 --> 01:50:09.869 appealed to me. 1948 01:50:10.130 --> 01:50:14.409 Never. Well, me either. And, I mean, they have to 1949 01:50:14.649 --> 01:50:20.199 order and cook, like, pounds and pounds. Visiting teams, when 1950 01:50:20.239 --> 01:50:22.399 they come to Madison– I'm not making this up, guys. 1951 01:50:23.220 --> 01:50:27.640 The visiting teams, their fans will come over and get 1952 01:50:27.899 --> 01:50:28.460 the gizzards. 1953 01:50:28.979 --> 01:50:29.560 Is that right? 1954 01:50:29.819 --> 01:50:35.510 The team bus, okay– we'll, we'll get bag by bag 1955 01:50:35.569 --> 01:50:37.100 full since they eat on the way home. 1956 01:50:37.609 --> 01:50:37.840 Yeah. 1957 01:50:38.640 --> 01:50:42.359 What I don't understand when I, and the reason I 1958 01:50:42.380 --> 01:50:44.859 know this is because I did a Madison County football 1959 01:50:45.760 --> 01:50:50.180 for our radio station that I oversaw in Jasper, Florida. Say, listen, 1960 01:50:51.239 --> 01:50:56.630 I decided, okay, that boy, they look good. So let 1961 01:50:56.649 --> 01:51:02.289 me try one. I don't see how you eat a gizzard. It's, it's, 1962 01:51:02.510 --> 01:51:04.659 it's chew. It's, It's pig intestine. 1963 01:51:05.739 --> 01:51:06.119 Is it really? 1964 01:51:06.149 --> 01:51:08.550 Yeah. That's what a gizzard is. 1965 01:51:09.329 --> 01:51:11.850 Well, I thought there were chicken gizzards. Are there not 1966 01:51:11.890 --> 01:51:12.489 chicken gizzards? 1967 01:51:15.390 --> 01:51:17.069 Well, yeah. Isn't that what gizzards is? 1968 01:51:18.520 --> 01:51:19.840 Well, you just said pig intestines. 1969 01:51:20.439 --> 01:51:25.920 Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Well, wait a minute. What 1970 01:51:25.979 --> 01:51:32.289 am I missing here? I think, no, they're gizzards. They're 1971 01:51:32.310 --> 01:51:35.979 not chickens. I'm sorry, I apologize. They're not chicken gizzards. 1972 01:51:36.260 --> 01:51:36.939 They're gizzards. 1973 01:51:37.760 --> 01:51:38.000 Okay. 1974 01:51:38.520 --> 01:51:39.260 Pig intestine. 1975 01:51:40.340 --> 01:51:45.479 Okay. Well, listen, I'm not a gizzard connoisseur, so I 1976 01:51:45.520 --> 01:51:48.630 don't know. But here's what I'll say about it. 1977 01:51:48.670 --> 01:51:51.199 I've tried to eat one. I've tried to eat one, 1978 01:51:51.210 --> 01:51:55.350 and they just don't, I mean, they're chewy and disgusting. 1979 01:51:56.970 --> 01:52:01.590 So, oh, Carrie Claiborne says you're thinking about chitlins. 1980 01:52:01.649 --> 01:52:02.130 Chitlins. 1981 01:52:02.390 --> 01:52:08.699 Chitlins. So I think he might be right. But whether 1982 01:52:08.739 --> 01:52:14.069 it's Chitlins or Chitlings or Gizzards or whatever, I like 1983 01:52:14.109 --> 01:52:19.170 the idea where they have unique foods at high school 1984 01:52:19.229 --> 01:52:23.149 stadiums that stadiums are known for. What I don't like, 1985 01:52:23.250 --> 01:52:27.050 and most of the time when I buy something at 1986 01:52:27.090 --> 01:52:29.449 a high school

stadium concession stand, because I'm doing it 1987 01:52:29.510 --> 01:52:32.529 because I just like to support their booster club that's 1988 01:52:33.109 --> 01:52:34.529 manning the concession stands, right? 1989 01:52:34.829 --> 01:52:34.970 Yeah. 1990 01:52:35.560 --> 01:52:37.600 I don't usually get it for the food there because 1991 01:52:37.619 --> 01:52:40.710 the food in a concession stand is usually pretty bland. 1992 01:52:41.229 --> 01:52:41.390 Yeah. 1993 01:52:41.850 --> 01:52:43.529 Because people are trying to just grill it and cook 1994 01:52:43.550 --> 01:52:46.329 it as fast as they can to please the crowd. 1995 01:52:48.510 --> 01:52:51.529 But I love the idea that there are some stadiums 1996 01:52:51.630 --> 01:52:55.550 out there that provide unique things that you can only 1997 01:52:55.590 --> 01:53:00.680 find at their stadium. I love the idea. So. 1998 01:53:01.920 --> 01:53:03.479 So I'm trying to think of anybody. So people have 1999 01:53:03.520 --> 01:53:06.720 mentioned the Thomas County Central Concession stand has a pretty 2000 01:53:06.739 --> 01:53:12.399 good hot dog. Kendrick Sanders now is correcting me. The 2001 01:53:12.500 --> 01:53:13.840 gizzard is a muscle. 2002 01:53:14.800 --> 01:53:15.039 Okay. 2003 01:53:15.619 --> 01:53:18.420 So, yeah, I may be– well, I guess I am wrong. 2004 01:53:20.060 --> 01:53:24.430 So chicken livers and– yeah, I got to get a 2005 01:53:24.430 --> 01:53:25.819 clarification on that. 2006 01:53:25.850 --> 01:53:31.369 So it's chicken gizzards and pork chitterlings. Okay. Okay. But 2007 01:53:31.430 --> 01:53:34.210 either one of them, I won't eat. 2008 01:53:35.050 --> 01:53:39.789 I guess, you know how that originated, right? Uh-huh. 2009 01:53:40.680 --> 01:53:41.859 Do I want to know? 2010 01:53:42.479 --> 01:53:47.760 Well, yeah. It was because, going back, our ancestors, our forefathers, 2011 01:53:48.239 --> 01:53:50.619 they did not want to waste any part of the animal. 2012 01:53:51.239 --> 01:53:51.500 Okay. 2013 01:53:52.439 --> 01:53:55.050 So once they got the animal down to, I guess, 2014 01:53:55.069 --> 01:53:59.729 you know, that's how probably livers, which if lizard, I'll 2015 01:53:59.770 --> 01:54:02.989 take a fried lizard. A fried liver. 2016 01:54:05.159 --> 01:54:06.979 A fried lizard? Come on, Bill. 2017 01:54:07.420 --> 01:54:08.239 It tastes like chicken. 2018 01:54:08.819 --> 01:54:10.819 How do you season that thing? 2019 01:54:11.020 --> 01:54:14.460 See, that's the thing about the gizzards. I guess that's 2020 01:54:14.479 --> 01:54:16.720 what they're for. I don't know. I'm so confused. Bottom 2021 01:54:16.739 --> 01:54:18.430 line is that all this stems from not wanting to 2022 01:54:18.470 --> 01:54:24.149 waste anything of the animal. Now, sweet bread is where 2023 01:54:24.210 --> 01:54:28.550 I draw the line. Do you know what I'm saying? 2024 01:54:28.569 --> 01:54:31.250 Yeah. Sweet bread? Are you talking about, is that like 2025 01:54:31.329 --> 01:54:33.930 a fancy way of saying a cinnamon roll? 2026 01:54:34.930 --> 01:54:35.890 Not even close. 2027 01:54:36.430 --> 01:54:37.170 No? Okay. 2028 01:54:38.569 --> 01:54:49.699 Sweet bread is the name given to brain. Larry. Larry's 2029 01:54:49.720 --> 01:54:51.439 going to get sick here on the show. 2030 01:54:52.579 --> 01:54:54.319 I'm going to need some Pepto after this thing. 2031 01:54:57.649 --> 01:54:59.949 I just don't get it. I mean, I get not 2032 01:54:59.970 --> 01:55:03.729 wanting to waste the animal, but, man. But chicken livers, yes, 2033 01:55:03.850 --> 01:55:07.460 I will take a fried chicken liver. I mean, they're good. Yeah. 2034 01:55:08.300 --> 01:55:10.699 So, guys, if you're just now tuning in, welcome to 2035 01:55:10.720 --> 01:55:13.220 the junior edition of the Food Channel with a side 2036 01:55:13.239 --> 01:55:14.119 of high school football. 2037 01:55:14.680 --> 01:55:19.770 Yeah, absolutely. Go up with it, Larry. But absolutely. Well, Larry, 2038 01:55:19.810 --> 01:55:21.890 I mean, you got anything else, man? We're two hours 2039 01:55:22.090 --> 01:55:23.789 in and about ready to call it a day. 2040 01:55:24.710 --> 01:55:26.430 No, I'm about ready to go get something to eat. 2041 01:55:27.670 --> 01:55:28.100 Well, yeah, I hear you. 2042 01:55:28.109 --> 01:55:28.569 That's what I meant. 2043 01:55:29.000 --> 01:55:29.500 That's what I meant. 2044 01:55:31.140 --> 01:55:32.859 Kerry Claiborne says, y'all are off the rails. 2045 01:55:34.800 --> 01:55:37.020 Listen, man, we're going to bring some humor into the show. Man, 2046 01:55:37.079 --> 01:55:38.359 life is too short, you know. 2047 01:55:39.149 --> 01:55:42.409 And I will end it on this. Newton will feast 2048 01:55:42.869 --> 01:55:44.630 on the Grayson Rams Friday night. 2049 01:55:45.470 --> 01:55:48.829 By the way, I will say this. Kendrick Sanders says, 2050 01:55:48.890 --> 01:55:52.050 no feeling you a gator hater talking about a fried lizard. 2051 01:55:53.010 --> 01:55:55.390 By the way, has anybody else noticed all the lizards? 2052 01:55:57.189 --> 01:55:58.689 Have y'all noticed all the lizards around? 2053 01:55:59.170 --> 01:56:00.970 I've seen a lot of them. Yeah. 2054 01:56:01.569 --> 01:56:05.060 Man, I walk my dog, just all the time, every morning. 2055 01:56:05.079 --> 01:56:09.020 I mean, several times because I work from home. And guys, 2056 01:56:09.060 --> 01:56:11.340 there are lizards everywhere. 2057 01:56:11.579 --> 01:56:11.800 Yeah. 2058 01:56:12.399 --> 01:56:14.600 I mean, and I like them. I'm not going to 2059 01:56:14.640 --> 01:56:17.039 kill them. I don't like killing. I don't shoot animals. 2060 01:56:17.180 --> 01:56:19.390 I don't kill animals, man. I'm not going to do that. 2061 01:56:19.399 --> 01:56:24.149 I don't hunt. I don't want to hunt. But anyway, 2062 01:56:24.430 --> 01:56:26.029 Greg Maddox says, yeah, go ahead. 2063 01:56:27.029 --> 01:56:29.460 Phil, I got a question for you.

A serious question 2064 01:56:29.479 --> 01:56:34.060 about food, okay? Okay. If everything tastes like chicken, why 2065 01:56:34.079 --> 01:56:34.880 don't you just eat chicken? 2066 01:56:36.420 --> 01:56:39.800 Yeah. I got to be honest with you real quick. 2067 01:56:40.140 --> 01:56:46.149 I eat very little red meat. And it's not a 2068 01:56:46.619 --> 01:56:51.189 big conscious thing. It's just like a health thing. I 2069 01:56:51.210 --> 01:56:57.590 just prefer good chicken over red meat. 2070 01:57:00.520 --> 01:57:00.729 Yeah. 2071 01:57:02.369 --> 01:57:04.489 Jerry Claver says, my dog stares out the window by 2072 01:57:04.510 --> 01:57:06.090 the front door all day so he can bark at 2073 01:57:06.130 --> 01:57:09.590 the lizards running around on my front porch. Those are 2074 01:57:09.670 --> 01:57:16.819 fast little things, man. I mean, they just go everywhere. Everywhere. Amazing. 2075 01:57:20.119 --> 01:57:23.520 All right. Greg Maddox says, chicken gizzards and livers are 2076 01:57:23.560 --> 01:57:25.149 great with hot sauce. That's what I'm saying. Those people 2077 01:57:25.159 --> 01:57:28.409 down in Madison County, they put hot sauce on these things. 2078 01:57:28.800 --> 01:57:30.920 It's gizzards. It's got to be chicken gizzards. I was 2079 01:57:30.960 --> 01:57:34.260 wrong about pig intestines. It's chicken gizzards, and the things 2080 01:57:34.300 --> 01:57:37.659 have no taste. They're like trying to eat a rubber band, 2081 01:57:37.739 --> 01:57:41.760 and I'm not joking. A fried rubber band. 2082 01:57:41.779 --> 01:57:46.939 Some people would describe that like calamari. Fried calamari can 2083 01:57:46.960 --> 01:57:47.770 be rubbery, too. 2084 01:57:48.119 --> 01:57:50.350 That's the same thing, yeah. Cary Claiborne, there will be 2085 01:57:50.390 --> 01:57:53.569 no sweetbread, sweetbread, chitlins, or gizzards at our homecoming tailgate 2086 01:57:53.609 --> 01:57:55.590 on Friday. But I believe that's what it is called. 2087 01:57:55.609 --> 01:58:01.880 It's called sweetbread, and it's brains. That's disgusting, man. 2088 01:58:02.550 --> 01:58:06.520 Yeah. And listen, Kerry Claiborne, I thought you and I 2089 01:58:06.520 --> 01:58:09.010 were tighter than that, man. Not not inviting me to you. 2090 01:58:09.689 --> 01:58:12.430 You tailgate, even though I can't make it, it's just 2091 01:58:12.470 --> 01:58:14.949 the principle of the thing. Yeah. 2092 01:58:14.989 --> 01:58:18.770 You guys, again, appreciate all, everything. I want to thank 2093 01:58:19.090 --> 01:58:23.479 our sponsor, Dr. Kevin Collins at the Houston clinic. You 2094 01:58:23.489 --> 01:58:27.189 see him right down there at the bottom of your screen. Dr. 2095 01:58:27.720 --> 01:58:29.659 Kevin Collins, the Houston clinic. They are the best in 2096 01:58:29.699 --> 01:58:33.220 the business when it comes to, to getting these young 2097 01:58:33.739 --> 01:58:39.000 men and women, high school student-athletes, back on the playing

field. 2098 01:58:39.640 --> 01:58:44.949 So we appreciate them. We appreciate Kevin Collins and the 2099 01:58:44.970 --> 01:58:47.989 Houston Clinic. They are the best in the business. Dr. 2100 01:58:48.069 --> 01:58:54.069 Jack Houston is the one that repaired Dominique Wilkins' torn Achilles. Dr. 2101 01:58:54.130 --> 01:58:59.409 Jack Houston said in his Southern draw, that thing looked 2102 01:58:59.529 --> 01:59:05.760 just like a mop. As he described, Dominique Wilkins torn, 2103 01:59:06.039 --> 01:59:11.220 shredded Achilles. And you know how good Dr. Jack Houston is? 2104 01:59:13.960 --> 01:59:16.520 He put it back together, and Dominique went on to 2105 01:59:16.539 --> 01:59:20.170 have a fantastic career. Dominique was as good as new, 2106 01:59:20.789 --> 01:59:22.689 even after he shredded his Achilles. 2107 01:59:23.250 --> 01:59:23.550 Dr. 2108 01:59:23.649 --> 01:59:25.609 Jack Houston, best in the business. 2109 01:59:26.689 --> 01:59:30.189 Didn't they call Dominique Wilkins like the human highlight reel? 2110 01:59:30.229 --> 01:59:30.840 Yeah, sure did. 2111 01:59:30.850 --> 01:59:31.850 Or something like that? 2112 01:59:31.890 --> 01:59:32.189 Sure did. 2113 01:59:32.600 --> 01:59:36.300 Fantastic player during his time. That's for sure. Guys, listen, 2114 01:59:36.399 --> 01:59:39.359 may God bless you guys. Seek to please him always. 2115 01:59:39.720 --> 01:59:43.199 And we'll see you guys next Monday night. And as always, 2116 01:59:43.500 --> 01:59:43.960 go Vikings. 2117 01:59:44.960 --> 01:59:47.220 Go Vikings. Go all the teams. You see my helmets 2118 01:59:47.279 --> 01:59:49.260 on the background here. Guys, I want to encourage y'all. 2119 01:59:49.600 --> 01:59:51.689 If you're not familiar with us at ITG Next, please 2120 01:59:51.739 --> 01:59:54.510 check us out. We've got a lot of great content. 2121 01:59:54.949 --> 01:59:58.619 Our updated rankings are out. Yours truly does those. We've 2122 01:59:58.640 --> 02:00:02.539 got our top performers are out. Yours truly selects those. 2123 02:00:03.779 --> 02:00:06.510 We've got all the coaches shows that I do. You 2124 02:00:06.550 --> 02:00:09.810 guys can go online and check out the Lowndes Coaches Show, 2125 02:00:10.649 --> 02:00:16.649 the Roswell Coaches Show. We've got the Roswell Gable. Roswell, 2126 02:00:17.270 --> 02:00:20.079 we've got Lee County Coaches Show. I'll be doing that tomorrow. 2127 02:00:20.380 --> 02:00:24.100 We've got Tiff County Coaches Show. We've got Crisp County 2128 02:00:24.159 --> 02:00:29.020 Coaches Show. We've got Halston County Coaches Show. The Colquitt 2129 02:00:29.079 --> 02:00:34.640 County Coaches Show. Who am I leaving out? The McKeacher 2130 02:00:35.020 --> 02:00:39.159 Coaches Show with Kareem Reed. We've got the Worth County 2131 02:00:39.220 --> 02:00:42.100 Coaches Show with Jeff Hammond. 2132 02:00:42.479 --> 02:00:45.159 Phil, it might be easier for you to say who 2133 02:00:45.180 --> 02:00:45.819 you don't have. 2134 02:00:47.800 --> 02:00:51.140 And the Appling County Coaches Show with John David Sellers. Big, 2135 02:00:51.399 --> 02:00:55.600 big thanks to all of our sponsors that sponsor all 2136 02:00:55.619 --> 02:01:00.090 of our content. uh, Justin Kyle Haley. I just joined 2137 02:01:00.170 --> 02:01:01.140 and y'all leaving. 2138 02:01:01.569 --> 02:01:03.819 Where you been buddy? We've been here for two hours. 2139 02:01:03.979 --> 02:01:06.899 I know it, man. Justin six to eight brother, six 2140 02:01:06.939 --> 02:01:10.319 to eight. But the Justin's is, uh, going to make a, uh, 2141 02:01:10.359 --> 02:01:12.340 appearance on Friday's scoreboard show. 2142 02:01:12.720 --> 02:01:13.119 Oh, cool. 2143 02:01:13.159 --> 02:01:14.600 So, so, uh, we look forward to that. 2144 02:01:15.140 --> 02:01:17.319 Yeah. He's a knowledgeable guy. He'll bring, he'll bring the heat. 2145 02:01:18.060 --> 02:01:22.020 Very knowledgeable. Very knowledgeable. It is a, uh, uh, the 2146 02:01:22.050 --> 02:01:24.350 guy is super knowledgeable. He's got a lot of contacts. 2147 02:01:24.550 --> 02:01:27.279 He'll be somewhere on the sidelines that we'll, uh, We'll 2148 02:01:27.300 --> 02:01:29.399 have him join us on Friday Night Scoreboard Show. 2149 02:01:32.770 --> 02:01:36.659 All right, guys. I'm out. I'm tired and hungry. See 2150 02:01:36.699 --> 02:01:37.060 you guys. 2151 02:01:37.340 --> 02:01:38.319 See you guys. Have a great night.