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00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:58.319 Like being sober for me meant I wasn't engaging in kind of problematic behavior to try and manage social anxiety. 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:01.840 I was just much more present and awake to myself. 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:07.759 And I've realized after a while, oh, I'm I'm just not feeling shame anymore. 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:12.000 Like at the time that felt completely miraculous. 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:25.919 And I also have noticed, like, when I started taking strength training really seriously about 18 months ago, I was having that same feeling, like getting into bed, just knowing, oh, I kept my promises to myself today. 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:33.120 I got my steps in, or I, you know, ate enough protein or went to the gym or whatever, whatever it was. 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:40.719 And this is now starting to be noticeable again more recently as I'm actually starting to write, right? 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:42.879 Keeping that promise to myself. 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:57.680 Um, so five days in a row now, I have spent the first hour of the day working on my book proposal that I drafted a few years ago, but for long, long, boring reasons, never took forward. 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:01.439 And it is starting to slowly take shape now. 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:11.840 So to me, this feeling of do I feel proud of myself when I get into bed each night, it actually does have some like science behind it, some research behind it. 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:18.160 Um, I was chatting with Laura Bernard about this this week because she's all about midlife joy. 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:22.560 And um I interviewed her on the podcast a few weeks ago. 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:24.160 Definitely go check that out. 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:31.439 But Laura and I were talking about the difference between um hedonic joy and eudaimonic joy. 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:42.319 So eudaimonic joy is really rich and grounded, it's a sense of joy that's actually connected to values and purpose and meaning. 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:57.040 Whereas hedonic joy is a bit more immediate, it's usually connected to something outside of ourselves, it's quite momentary, and it's hedonic joy is connected to a kind of person, place, or thing. 00:04:57.120 --> 00:05:02.319 It usually comes from outside of us, whereas eudaimonic joy is much more internal, right? 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:05.360 So it's about how that sort of sense of satisfaction. 00:05:05.519 --> 00:05:08.000 I'm living in a way that feels good to me. 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:14.639 So that is my measure of success, and I know like every day you're measuring success. 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:24.720 I don't know, there's something about that Annie Dillard quote, um, you know, how we spend our life is actually how we spend our days, that keeps coming up for me when I think about that. 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:32.800 So that could be a great way to just get curious about your own experience each day. 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:35.199 Are you feeling good when you get into bed? 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:36.480 And if not, why not? 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:42.319 And what might you need to, you know, maybe try gently, differently tomorrow, right? 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:53.759 So the thing is that for me, this feels quite miraculous, just that I'm measuring joy by how I feel, or measuring success by how I feel, right? 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:58.160 Longtime listeners might know I'm definitely an overfunctioner. 00:05:58.399 --> 00:06:12.480 I'm sort of feel like a recovering overfunctioner, and I'm learning how to take care of myself and my goals without kind of falling into that overworking trap and just adding more in. 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:17.759 I'm learning how to bring simple and fun into my days. 00:06:17.920 --> 00:06:30.879 Um, and when I made a really conscious decision to go all in on supporting coaches just over a year ago, I remember writing down in my journal, I want a really boring business. 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:37.199 And this felt quite dangerous and a bit edgy to admit to myself. 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:41.360 And in all honesty, at the time I didn't really believe I could do this. 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:44.800 I thought, oh, it sounds quite good though, you know. 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:54.800 And and I just want to say, like when I was kind of locked in, as the kids say, to my overworking ways, I was honestly a bit afraid of slowing down. 00:06:55.040 --> 00:07:04.000 Um, I I was pretty convinced that momentum was my go-go juice, and if I stopped, I'd just end up like on the sofa covered in Dorito dust. 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:10.639 I think I was also a bit worried about what what might come up if I just gave myself some space. 00:07:10.879 --> 00:07:19.199 Like the idea of having white space in my calendar, I I back then would have said, well, that's just lazy. 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:22.319 I know, I know how that sounds. 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:30.560 The second thing I want to say, like, just to give all of these um kind of approaches some context, is I don't have kids. 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:35.920 And I have heard that they do take up quite a bit of time, right? 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:40.160 I mean, the unconditional love for sure, but also the endless noise, right? 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:43.040 So I I just really want to acknowledge that, right? 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:48.399 We might have quite different demands on our time, different resources, different responsibilities. 00:07:48.720 --> 00:08:02.720 But I do think we share this additional challenge that the muggles don't have, which is we have to generate our own momentum and make our own decisions and hold ourselves accountable, keep promises to ourselves. 00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:05.439 Like no one's gonna check our homework, right? 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:13.680 And so I think if you do have a tendency for overwork, sometimes that can just feel like the safest way to keep everything moving.

00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:30.879 But what I'm learning is that there, and equally, I think if you're finding that you're a bit frozen and kind of underfunctioning, that can sort of feel like the safest way to avoid whatever risks you think might occur if you know you do the thing. 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:36.080 So, all to say, like there are these additional challenges that I think we share. 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:42.639 And what I'm trying to learn is new ways of holding a bit of both, right? 00:08:42.879 --> 00:09:01.039 And I think what I'm finding is that when you have space and energy and joy, it is so much easier to access creativity and inspiration and presence, and that changes how we show up in our businesses, how we show up to our clients. 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:06.000 So, all to say, like these five things are making a real difference for me. 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:08.240 Take whatever feels helpful. 00:09:08.480 --> 00:09:10.080 I'm I'm here for all of it. 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:14.159 So the first thing is um BAMs. 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:17.840 So I have this practice of weekly BAMs. 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:32.320 BAMS is an acronym, it stands for the bare ass minimums, and it's just two tasks that I try to complete each week, and I write them down for myself on a Monday and I keep them in my line of sight. 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:48.320 My BAMs are usually admin that I tend to avoid or the thing that feels a bit overwhelming to start, and I'm amazed at what I can do in a sort of 20-minute work block. 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:58.559 Like, if it's an overwhelming thing, I can make a good start and maybe just plan out what I need to do, whatever it takes to reduce that sense of overwhelm. 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:10.559 And I don't know about you, but have you ever just put off something for weeks, maybe months, and then when you finally come around to do it, it takes about 12 minutes and you're like, what was I doing? 00:10:10.960 --> 00:10:13.360 That is what BAM's help me address. 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:22.639 It is so helpful for that feeling of almost like I've all I'm always behind, I've always got things to do, because I'm making progress every week. 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:32.320 So I would just say if there's an email you've been putting off, or there's a follow-up with a potential client, or you're making a you've got to make a decision. 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:41.360 Like the point is isn't with a BAM to kind of lower your ambition, it's to make that action that's needed feel possible. 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:44.399 So like put put it on your list and do it. 00:10:44.559 --> 00:10:46.559 Keep that promise to yourself. 00:10:47.759 --> 00:10:56.399 And the other part of this is about taking imperfect action, which I think works hand in hand with your BAMs, right? 00:10:56.559 --> 00:11:00.080 Um, the bare ass minimum, take imperfect action. 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:04.080 So this is really how I became a gym person. 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:16.000 Like I just took away that self-imposed deadline of where I wanted to get to by a specific date, and it has freed me up to just take imperfect action. 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:20.000 And how can I move my body today, now, imperfectly? 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:28.720 And I cannot tell you how many half-assed gym sessions I've done where I maybe did half the workout that was on my plan. 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:35.840 And now I look back and go, Oh, yeah, but I did that like 30 times over the last 18 months. 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:37.519 It was totally enough. 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:52.240 Because I think imperfect action really builds self-trust through evidence, evidence that you can do something that's a good enough job, rather than waiting to feel confident and like it's all gonna be perfect and all of that jazz. 00:11:52.559 --> 00:12:05.360 And right now, that imperfect action is um is working for me in that I'm revisiting this book proposal after like almost eight years of wanting to write, I'm finally doing it. 00:12:05.600 --> 00:12:09.039 And the imperfect action is one hour most mornings. 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:15.120 I just literally get up, put on my comfy pants, grab a coffee, turn on my headed blanket. 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:20.639 There's no scrolling, there's no email, there's no AI, it's just me and my writing pad. 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:31.120 And this feels like it is so helpful to see how those small actions compound over time. 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:44.559 So, all I would say is if this feels like something you you really need, if you do have a bit of a perfectionist streak and if you're kind of waiting to feel ready or to know that it's all going to be fine, small actions compound over time. 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:46.879 Like, get that tattooed. 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:58.879 So it's the offer that probably doesn't need another three months of polishing because it's an invitation you could make today, or the content you could share before you feel like you've got the perfect hook, right? 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:04.639 Um, and maybe you do miss something, like totally that's gonna happen. 00:13:04.720 --> 00:13:11.600 Like, I have sent out emails that maybe didn't have the right day in them, or we're missing a Zoom link, right? 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:14.399 Trust me, you can recover from that. 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:34.000 Equally, I have also over-prepared workshops that you know, when I open them up and ask everyone a kind of question at the start to sort of check in with everybody, was so clear they did not need some kind of polished performance, they just needed presence and perspective. 00:13:34.080 --> 00:13:35.759 Like, sorry for all those peas. 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:43.519 But but how many of us do that, you know, where we just over-prepare and add more things in, and it just takes a hell of a lot longer. 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:54.639 And meanwhile, all the lessons you get from that evidence that you can do this

without having to over, over, overdo it, you you're missing out on all of that. 00:13:54.960 --> 00:14:00.559 So I I think the third thing that I want to share is the Pareto principle, which you've probably heard of. 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:03.200 This is the thing that really makes a difference. 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:15.360 Like it's it's basically the 80-20 rule that a relatively small proportion of our efforts often produce the largest proportion of our results, right? 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:27.519 So you know what actually makes the difference is I for me, this is the distinction between being busy and being um doing meaningful work, right? 00:14:27.679 --> 00:14:30.240 Doing busy work versus doing meaningful work. 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:41.840 And you know, I I I'm I I've discovered this week, I got a little badge from my podcast host to say that the podcast has had 25,000 downloads. 00:14:42.080 --> 00:15:00.960 And that feels pretty momentous given that I've I've revamped the podcast alongside my business to specifically focus on coaches, and I've just been able to show up consistently because supporting you is jam-packed for me, full of that you eudaimic joy. 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:04.240 And so it this isn't really about the number, right? 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:10.240 It's about evidence of what can happen when you focus your energy on something that means something to you. 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:13.200 It's a joy, it's easy to keep showing up. 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:19.840 So there is this really cool maths that goes alongside this that the demon the law of diminishing returns. 00:15:19.919 --> 00:15:24.320 So more effort doesn't produce proportionately more value. 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:33.039 And we know this, like if you walk 5,000 steps a day, you get 80% of the benefits of walking 10,000 steps, right? 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:37.360 There's only actually a tiny uplift in benefits after 8,000 steps. 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:47.360 So the way to think about this for you is what might you stop doing because the additional effort isn't worth what it costs you, right? 00:15:47.440 --> 00:15:50.159 You it you're getting diminishing returns from that. 00:15:50.399 --> 00:15:55.200 So can you just do 80% and go from there, right? 00:15:56.960 --> 00:16:09.759 Number four is work with yourself, not against yourself, which I know sounds captain freaking obvious, but I am really playing with this at the moment. 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:30.720 Like my calendar for November, I'm I've been playing with this all year, but I'm getting really kind of a little bit more concert of a concerted effort is going into this where I find constant task switching leaves me feeling really scattered and like I'm doing everything in a half-assed way. 00:16:31.039 --> 00:16:36.559 So I have now got dedicated whole days to specific kinds of work. 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:45.600 So I have two full coaching days where you know I can happily take in back-to-back clients because I'm not doing anything else. 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:55.519 Um, I have one day where I'm I'm just updating all of the self-belief coaching academy teaching videos, and so that one day is dedicated to all of that. 00:16:55.600 --> 00:17:13.759 They're quite short videos, it's like they're like 10 to 20 minutes, maybe half an hour max, but I've got one day devoted to that, one that's a content creation day where I try and write my newsletter and think about social media posts and you know ideas for the podcast, and that's enough to run my business. 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:17.920 And it also gives me an overflow day for whatever is needed. 00:17:18.079 --> 00:17:21.440 So if a client voxes me and says, Hey, can we meet up this week? 00:17:21.519 --> 00:17:22.880 Like, would that be possible? 00:17:23.039 --> 00:17:28.000 My answer is almost 100% yes, which feels amazing, right? 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:29.279 To have that free day. 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:35.200 It also means like my best mate just sent me a WhatsApp this morning saying, Hey, can I borrow your muscles? 00:17:35.279 --> 00:17:40.960 Because I've bought a bookshelf on Facebook Marketplace and I need to drive to Oxford to get it. 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:44.319 So I'm like, yeah, I've got an overflow day next week. 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:45.119 Can we do it then? 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:46.559 Pub lunch on the way back. 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:52.960 Oh my god, the joy of the of anticipating that road trip is fabulous, right? 00:17:53.119 --> 00:17:59.200 Also, how cool is it that I'm the mate that people call to borrow my muscles to move a bookcase, right? 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:16.000 So, all to say, like this just means this not task switching, this having dedicated days, it means that I have some pre-brook booked time to play with ideas without the pressure to immediately turn it over into something. 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:25.680 And I know that you know, when I work with myself, not against myself, my best ideas don't tend to arrive when I'm sitting at my desk, right? 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:31.759 So I have started like taking a question or a problem on a walk with Bodie. 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:44.960 I I will quite often, I try to leave my phone at home when I do that, but I do often like record ideas as vote voice notes, which is super helpful because I tend to work out what I think as I'm speaking it. 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:47.759 You might have noticed if you listen to the podcast. 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:49.759 This is also how I manifest stuff. 00:18:49.839 --> 00:18:53.440 I'll speak it out loud and it takes on a kind of verbal prayer, right? 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:55.039 It's out loud to the universe. 00:18:55.200 --> 00:19:00.720 Send me this, help me with this, please take this on, please show me what to do, right? 00:19:01.119 --> 00:19:15.279 So, all I would say to take away from this is rather than forcing yourself into someone else's productivity system, like what

would it look like to design your working week around what actually works for you? 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:17.519 So, can you work with yourself? 00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:22.799 What do you know about the conditions where you do your best work? 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:23.839 Right. 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:30.559 The fifth thing is to really get clear for yourself about what productivity even means to you. 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:44.000 Because, like, really what I'm challenging about the whole idea of optimization here is that I don't actually want to spend my life figuring out how to squeeze the maximum productivity out of it. 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:46.799 Like I I actually want to live it. 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:55.759 Like not everything I do needs to be useful, not every interest I have needs to become a freaking side hustle. 00:19:55.920 --> 00:19:59.680 Like, not every experience needs to become content. 00:19:59.839 --> 00:20:01.839 I know that's a big one for me, right? 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:03.599 It kind of is at the moment. 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:13.279 But I know when I start sort of tapping over into that overworking approach, it just feels like everything is centered around my work. 00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:24.240 And I I know for myself, I start to lose access to my own thoughts and ideas and inspiration, creative thinking, all of that stuff. 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:30.720 Like when I was thinking on my birthday a few weeks ago now, like what do I want more of this year? 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:33.920 I really, really want more in real life. 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:44.319 IRL, I want analog, screenless time, space when I'm not connected to everyone else through the means of the interwebs, right? 00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:51.839 And by the way, I mentioned last week that I started uh that I'd signed up for a six-week writing class at the community center. 00:20:52.160 --> 00:20:59.519 So, firstly, it started this week, and can I just say meeting people you'd never otherwise meet is so good for the soul. 00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:05.759 The teacher is bonkers in kind of the best eccentrically British way. 00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:19.119 Like she several times during our two hours together, she would just cry out in pain randomly, stand up and whack her hip joint back into place. 00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:21.519 Apparently, she has a slippery hip. 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:22.640 It was mad. 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:29.039 Um, she also left her phone on and then kept kind of interrupting the class to turn it off. 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:32.720 It's like, oh I don't want to turn it off in case someone calls you. 00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:35.119 So that all happened. 00:21:35.440 --> 00:21:43.519 And oh my god, you guys, we did this horrifying icebreaker where we had to find we had a list of things we had to tick off. 00:21:43.759 --> 00:21:49.279 Find someone with the same eye colour as you, someone who's lived overseas, someone who can play a musical instrument. 00:21:49.359 --> 00:21:50.480 Oh my Christ. 00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:56.799 And we had to walk around a quite small classroom to sort of shuffle past and meet everybody. 00:21:57.200 --> 00:21:59.359 And then we did some writing, which was cool. 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:01.920 But then we had to read it out loud. 00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:06.240 Like, oh my god, the whole thing was horrifying and awkward. 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:07.839 But I did not die. 00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:13.920 I actually could feel my sort of comfort zone expanding in the room. 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:17.519 And I personally have learnt to really love that feeling. 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:20.000 Like it's so juicy and stretchy for me. 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:23.440 And look, I'm I'm probably never gonna see these people again. 00:22:23.680 --> 00:22:25.359 So I'm sort of all in. 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:27.200 I'm going for the whole six weeks. 00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:28.480 I will report back. 00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:32.799 It's it's proving to be quite a source of joy for me. 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:39.200 What I love the most is the pleasure of having this experience that just exists for its own sake. 00:22:39.440 --> 00:22:44.400 Like, I mean, this teacher is gonna give me some epic content for sure. 00:22:44.720 --> 00:22:48.799 But it's it's really nothing to do with my business, my work, right? 00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:51.759 And I've added in more things in November. 00:22:51.920 --> 00:23:06.960 Like, since we've come back from the UK, we've discussed uh discovered that Westbury Wildlife Park, which is five minutes up the road, it's this beautiful community resource in the middle of Bristol, and they've put in a cold water swimming pond and a sauna. 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:08.640 So I'm totally doing that. 00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:10.880 I'm doing a breathwork session. 00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:16.000 I'm obviously going to pick this bookcase up from Oxford because muscles. 00:23:16.319 --> 00:23:23.359 Um, and yeah, I guess what I'm trying to say is I've figured out what all the white space is for, you guys. 00:23:23.519 --> 00:23:29.920 Like, we just don't have to justify joy by proving that it makes us more productive. 00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:34.319 Like a rich life isn't the reward for building a successful business. 00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:38.160 It's kind of part of why we're doing this, right? 00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:51.279 So, look, it's also a bit of a celebration for me because this is one year since I launched Ripen, my mentoring partnership for self-employed coaches, for thoughtful self-employed coaches. 00:23:51.440 --> 00:24:00.160 And I know this because the first coaches who signed up are now re-signing for another year, which that feeling just never gets old. 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:04.400 Like I am just I'm so filled with excitement about it. 00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:14.799 And I remember a year ago, me had so many reservations about this because oh my god, I don't know if

you've noticed, but there are quite a few kind of business coaches out there. 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:29.359 But I also knew that, like after I trained as a coaching supervisor, which has shitty branding, but is really centered on how do we take care of ourselves as practitioners so we can be the most effective in our client work. 00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:33.440 I mean, like supervision has absolutely made me the coach I am. 00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:42.720 And it was really clear to me, having understood this sort of behind the curtain of what it means to be a supervisor, what that work involves. 00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:51.359 To me, it was so obviously the kind of leadership training that self-employed and self-employed coaches who were often working alone and online. 00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:54.640 I felt like this was the secret source for me. 00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:58.799 And I really wanted to create this space where you can ripen your leadership. 00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:00.480 See what you see what I did there? 00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:09.119 Like really claim your coaching medicine, develop these client-centered outcome-based offers that are such an easy yes for your clients. 00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:13.759 And this, if I was gonna do this, it had to work for you and for me. 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:19.599 So things like you can join anytime, you get mostly one-to-one support. 00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:25.359 It's specific and tailored to you, it's around your self-belief and your business. 00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:35.599 So, not it's not just about like how to feel okay, being a bit more biz visible, but also the wordsmithing of your copy with you, right? 00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:40.720 And if you want more camaraderie, there are group get-togethers each month, there are workshops. 00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:46.319 Like we had one in-person day in Dublin in October, it was epic. 00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:53.359 But the most important part of this for me was I had to do it in a way that worked for me, that didn't burn me out. 00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:56.720 And this is where these approaches have all come in. 00:25:57.440 --> 00:26:09.039 And the thing is that like a year after Ripen opened, I'm getting into bed at night these days, well, for months, really, feeling happily spent, right? 00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:12.640 So I'm calling this first year of Ripen a total win. 00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:24.559 And I absolutely bloody love seeing coaches like sell out their one-to-one practices, successfully launch their group programs that have been, you know, sitting in notes folders for years, right? 00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:30.880 For sure, that's amazing, but it's more about how we are doing it. 00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:36.799 Like, there's 25 coaches in Ripen, and it's how we're doing it that feels so rich to me, right? 00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:38.640 And so I want this for you too. 00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:43.680 Like, I really want to encourage you to ask yourself, what do you want more of? 00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:47.359 What makes a successful life to you? 00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:57.599 You know, and if you are tempted to listen to the diary of a CEO, like, can you come back to this question of like what are you optimizing for? 00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:08.000 I I think we can build profitable, impactful, really sustainable businesses without making work the center of our entire existence. 00:27:08.640 --> 00:27:12.079 And look, if you want some support to do this, get in touch. 00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:22.559 I have three places available for ripen to start now, which is perfect if you want to get going in 2027 with a really clear, compelling coaching offer. 00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:32.960 Like it would be a total joy for me to help you create the business you've been dreaming of and in a way that fits into your big, full, rich life. 00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:36.960 So I hope these uh these ideas are helpful to you. 00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:38.640 Please take whatever you need. 00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:40.559 Get in touch, let's have a chat. 00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:42.799 All right, love, I'll see you next time.