THE GOD NOTES with Bestselling Author Lynne McTaggart의 전체 녹취록

evolved from octopi. So 69 00:04:52.230 --> 00:04:56.209 he was talking about the fact that the universe is 70 00:04:56.310 --> 00:05:01.639 not random. It's not accidental. It is deeply ordered. And 71 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:05.759 by way of that, he said, well, take music, for instance. Now, 72 00:05:06.040 --> 00:05:10.879 animals have music very similar to ours. They have harmony. 73 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:16.449 They have drumming. They do duets, etc., etc. Then he says, well, 74 00:05:16.970 --> 00:05:22.199 suppose there's a universal music out there. That would mean 75 00:05:22.259 --> 00:05:28.100 that it is arguably something pre-existing. And that would mean, 76 00:05:28.120 --> 00:05:30.959 as he went on to say, that we've hardly begun 77 00:05:31.019 --> 00:05:34.129 to understand who we are and why we're here. Well, 78 00:05:34.250 --> 00:05:42.449 I nearly fell off the sofa. I went, whoa, universal music, pre-existing, meaning. 79 00:05:43.550 --> 00:05:48.029 It always was. It was never evolved from anything else. 80 00:05:48.189 --> 00:05:52.870 It always was, and it's continued to be. And I thought, wow, 81 00:05:53.029 --> 00:05:56.829 what does that mean? So this was back in 2009. 82 00:05:56.810 --> 00:06:02.060 And I let this percolate for years while I collected 83 00:06:02.100 --> 00:06:04.199 a bit of evidence here and there. Whenever I would 84 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:09.720 find something about sound, music, et cetera, that I thought 85 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:11.759 related to this, I would stick it in a little 86 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:16.660 folder called Universal Music. And suddenly a few years ago, 87 00:06:17.459 --> 00:06:22.129 two books later, I suddenly thought, it's time to go 88 00:06:22.189 --> 00:06:25.819 back to this. It's time to actually do this. And 89 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:29.680 I didn't know what I was going to find, as 90 00:06:29.779 --> 00:06:31.980 I don't in any of my books. You know, I'm 91 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:37.879 an investigative reporter by background. And so, like most journalists, 92 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:40.480 I start with a piece of string, you know, a 93 00:06:40.519 --> 00:06:42.560 ball of string, and I just keep pulling at it 94 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:47.040 to see what comes out. And what came out with 95 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:50.959 this book was beyond my wildest imaginings, to be honest. 96 00:06:52.329 --> 00:06:52.949 Absolutely. 97 00:06:53.509 --> 00:06:57.850 And really, your subtitle to the God Notes tells us 98 00:06:57.930 --> 00:07:03.129 that because it says, how sound creates the universe. So 99 00:07:03.269 --> 00:07:07.519 what role does sound play in the origin and formation 100 00:07:08.100 --> 00:07:08.860 of the universe? 101 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:15.660 Okay, well, with the origin of the formation of the universe, 102 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:20.829 scientists from Cambridge, and I should say, as you mentioned, 103 00:07:21.620 --> 00:07:25.120 I didn't

have any woo-woo in this book. I decided 104 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:28.899 that what was needed was hard science that had been 105 00:07:29.379 --> 00:07:33.199 hiding in plain sight, but that nevertheless had a huge 106 00:07:33.300 --> 00:07:40.069 woo-woo implication. And so I spoke to some cosmologists and 107 00:07:40.250 --> 00:07:45.170 astrophysicists at Cambridge University, and they have discovered a couple 108 00:07:45.189 --> 00:07:50.329 of amazing things. Number one, that the universe is not silent. 109 00:07:50.990 --> 00:07:54.949 Outer space is not silent, as we've always believed. The sun, 110 00:07:55.689 --> 00:07:59.480 as one astrophysicist put it, is making one heck of 111 00:07:59.540 --> 00:08:03.639 a noise. It's making huge sounds all the time, and 112 00:08:03.759 --> 00:08:08.519 those are related to how it creates heat. But there's 113 00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:16.050 another one who found, named Andrew Fabian, he found that 114 00:08:16.230 --> 00:08:19.670 black holes make a sound, one of the lowest sounds 115 00:08:19.930 --> 00:08:22.829 in the universe, well below our capacity to hear it. 116 00:08:23.910 --> 00:08:28.899 But what that sound, B flat, 57 octaves below middle C, 117 00:08:29.449 --> 00:08:34.289 what that sound did, as they believe, was it created 118 00:08:34.389 --> 00:08:39.350 entire galaxies. So when you start thinking of something like that, 119 00:08:39.450 --> 00:08:44.070 you think, wait a minute, the Bible said, in the 120 00:08:44.129 --> 00:08:47.289 beginning was the word, and then it was let there 121 00:08:47.340 --> 00:08:50.379 be light. Well, maybe it was in the beginning was 122 00:08:50.460 --> 00:08:55.919 the note, because the scientists also believe light came afterward. 123 00:08:55.940 --> 00:09:00.710 And other cultures, ancient cultures, believed the same. There was 124 00:09:00.769 --> 00:09:06.409 a note that began everything, the universal OM. And now 125 00:09:06.470 --> 00:09:11.990 we have evidence that, yeah, a note likely created the world, 126 00:09:12.340 --> 00:09:15.059 maybe galaxies, maybe the entire universe. 127 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:17.340 That's amazing. 128 00:09:18.009 --> 00:09:23.639 And so the cosmos emits sound and it affects us 129 00:09:23.700 --> 00:09:27.399 here on Earth? Is that true? Oh, yes. 130 00:09:28.059 --> 00:09:33.299 Oh, yes. The sun makes sounds that affect the geomagnetic 131 00:09:33.340 --> 00:09:38.639 shield that surrounds the Earth, like a giant geomagnetic donut. 132 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:43.070 And it's supposed to protect and acts as protecting the 133 00:09:43.250 --> 00:09:47.840 Earth and its inhabitants from all this solar activity. The 134 00:09:47.899 --> 00:09:52.970 sun is essentially a furious star that starts throwing all 135 00:09:53.000 --> 00:09:58.990 kinds of things at us. It's a bunch of unstable 136 00:09:59.070 --> 00:10:03.419 magnetic fields. crossed with all of this energy, and that 137 00:10:03.500 --> 00:10:08.120 is a recipe for periodic explosions like solar flares and 138 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:11.929 the like. When they hit the geomagnetic shield, they usually 139 00:10:11.990 --> 00:10:15.710 bounce off, but what we're now recognizing is that a 140 00:10:15.850 --> 00:10:22.250 lot of sounds in space actually play those field lines 141 00:10:22.450 --> 00:10:25.620 as they are, almost like a harp. And that has 142 00:10:25.700 --> 00:10:30.720 huge effects on all living things, particularly humans. It affects 143 00:10:30.840 --> 00:10:33.720 the two major engines of the human body, the heart 144 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:34.340 and the brain. 145 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:35.639 Wow. 146 00:10:35.700 --> 00:10:40.570 So when there's a lot of solar activity, we have 147 00:10:40.789 --> 00:10:45.950 a higher level of heart attacks, higher level of psychiatric admissions. 148 00:10:46.460 --> 00:10:51.330 higher level of epileptic fits. We get energetically destabilized. So 149 00:10:51.370 --> 00:10:55.990 we're connected with the outer reaches of the cosmos energetically. 150 00:10:56.710 --> 00:11:03.450 And with these various energies happening all those hundreds of thousands, 151 00:11:03.590 --> 00:11:04.950 millions of miles away. 152 00:11:06.490 --> 00:11:10.919 So one of the things that you discovered was that 153 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:18.269 ancient humans recognized this power of sound. There's some fascinating 154 00:11:18.350 --> 00:11:22.860 history that you discovered about the spaces that they created. 155 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:25.500 Can you talk a little bit about that? Sure. 156 00:11:26.379 --> 00:11:29.840 I've written numerous times about the late Robert John, the 157 00:11:29.899 --> 00:11:34.299 Dean of Engineering at Princeton University, and largely because he 158 00:11:34.379 --> 00:11:39.409 and his partner psychologist, Brenda Dunn, created the most scholarly 159 00:11:39.649 --> 00:11:44.700 and longest study of mind over matter, psychokinesis as it's 160 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:50.590 called officially, or intention, use the word intention. And they 161 00:11:50.649 --> 00:11:54.129 demonstrated without a shadow of a doubt that intention is real. 162 00:11:55.250 --> 00:11:58.990 Toward the end of his career, John was on vacation 163 00:11:59.049 --> 00:12:01.929 with Dunn, and they were with other friends, Paul and 164 00:12:01.970 --> 00:12:08.169 Charlotte Devereaux, and they were visiting an ancient Native American site. 165 00:12:09.110 --> 00:12:12.970 And They went into one of the areas of it, 166 00:12:13.070 --> 00:12:19.009 which had renovated the ancient kiva. A kiva is a 167 00:12:19.149 --> 00:12:24.279 ritual room. And they also were piping in Native American 168 00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:28.659 music to give people a feel of the experience. As 169 00:12:28.700 --> 00:12:33.710 they went down in there, John was listening to it, 170 00:12:34.419 --> 00:12:37.440 and he started to realize that

certain notes were much, 171 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:42.740 much louder than others, seven, eight times louder. As an engineer, 172 00:12:42.860 --> 00:12:47.259 he understood what was going on. In an enclosed space 173 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:51.539 with sound, which is sound waves which travel through a 174 00:12:51.580 --> 00:12:56.370 medium like air or water, when they hit another impediment 175 00:12:56.470 --> 00:13:00.210 like a wall, they bounce back. Now, if the two 176 00:13:00.289 --> 00:13:04.429 waves coming from either side of the walls overlap, they 177 00:13:04.490 --> 00:13:09.620 create much larger amplitude, meaning the sound gets much louder. 178 00:13:10.019 --> 00:13:13.659 So he recognized something like that's going on. And he 179 00:13:13.740 --> 00:13:19.519 said to himself, I wonder if the Native Americans understood this, 180 00:13:19.700 --> 00:13:22.360 if they knew it. So he was talking about this, 181 00:13:22.460 --> 00:13:27.320 and Paul Devereaux, who has studied ancient sites, ancient ley 182 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:31.549 lines and the like, in Britain, being British, said, why 183 00:13:31.590 --> 00:13:35.269 don't we go to some of these ancient structures and 184 00:13:35.330 --> 00:13:35.850 measure it? 185 00:13:36.590 --> 00:13:37.250 So they did. 186 00:13:38.070 --> 00:13:41.980 John brought along a bunch of acoustical equipment, and the 187 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:46.919 four of them went to six different sites around Britain 188 00:13:47.779 --> 00:13:52.419 and Ireland. And these sites were built around 4,000 or 6,000 189 00:13:52.419 --> 00:13:57.090 years ago, and they had different shapes and sizes. And 190 00:13:57.110 --> 00:14:00.809 they were always thought to be just burial chambers, but 191 00:14:01.049 --> 00:14:05.100 it looks like, from a lot of the things inside, 192 00:14:05.629 --> 00:14:09.700 that there was... Also, there were also rituals held there. 193 00:14:10.620 --> 00:14:13.850 So they found, despite some being round, some being oval, 194 00:14:13.899 --> 00:14:20.730 some being cruciform, virtually all of them resonated. That is, 195 00:14:20.830 --> 00:14:26.090 the sound got much, much louder and reverberated with one 196 00:14:26.289 --> 00:14:31.549 particular note, 110 hertz, which is an octave and two 197 00:14:31.590 --> 00:14:38.360 notes below middle C. So, John came home wondering about this. 198 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:42.029 This must have been deliberate. How did they know? How 199 00:14:42.049 --> 00:14:47.669 did these ancient peoples understand this? So he asked a 200 00:14:47.710 --> 00:14:53.009 neuroscientist he knew at UCLA, Ian Cook, to do a 201 00:14:53.049 --> 00:14:56.669 study of this. And Cook got together a bunch of 202 00:14:56.710 --> 00:15:01.769 volunteers and played different notes to them. 100 hertz, 110 hertz, 203 00:15:01.769 --> 00:15:06.860 120 hertz, et cetera, 90 hertz. And it was only 204 00:15:06.919 --> 00:15:13.379 at 110 hertz that he

noticed huge brainwave changes. Now, 205 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:16.620 he had put EEG caps on all the participants, and 206 00:15:16.659 --> 00:15:22.480 he found that with 110 hertz alone, activity on the 207 00:15:23.139 --> 00:15:28.000 left side, the left executive function, shifted to the right, 208 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:33.149 which is the area from the analytic brain to the 209 00:15:33.269 --> 00:15:39.379 area more associated with creativity, mystical states, etc. And what 210 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:43.559 they have found, other scientists have found, is that that 211 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:48.009 particular node has huge effects on the brain and in 212 00:15:48.149 --> 00:15:53.610 creating this kind of altered state. Now, the ancients, it 213 00:15:53.730 --> 00:15:57.750 looks like, must have known this. They must have known 214 00:15:58.269 --> 00:16:03.480 there was a way to create a structure. and how 215 00:16:03.580 --> 00:16:09.080 to do so that would create this reverberative effect at 216 00:16:09.159 --> 00:16:14.820 this particular note. Now, this is astonishing. They had information 217 00:16:14.860 --> 00:16:17.590 like that. Some of them had cutouts in the walls, 218 00:16:17.970 --> 00:16:22.470 which would have enhanced the effects. So they had to 219 00:16:22.529 --> 00:16:26.250 understand something about acoustics, something about the note, and also 220 00:16:26.330 --> 00:16:31.759 knowing that this particular note would give the participants and 221 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:35.340 the listeners a sense of the divine. So hence why 222 00:16:35.559 --> 00:16:38.919 I started calling the book The God Notes. Because that 223 00:16:38.980 --> 00:16:43.259 was one thing that was clearly happening. But then the 224 00:16:43.360 --> 00:16:49.889 title ended up describing everything. Because the more I dug 225 00:16:50.049 --> 00:16:53.549 into it, the more I understood that sound doesn't just 226 00:16:55.169 --> 00:16:59.730 affect us. Sound actually creates us from ourselves on upward. 227 00:17:01.070 --> 00:17:04.269 And that the use of sound can elevate us, can 228 00:17:04.309 --> 00:17:08.519 heal us, can put us into a transcendental state in 229 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:12.460 touch with the divine. And the fact that these ancient 230 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:18.289 people knew this or somehow had awareness of this is 231 00:17:18.349 --> 00:17:24.190 just phenomenal. And we can wonder, like, did they actually 232 00:17:24.349 --> 00:17:28.529 hear somehow a broader spectrum? Could they hear the music 233 00:17:28.589 --> 00:17:33.849 of the spheres? Pythagoras and Kepler talked about that. And 234 00:17:34.390 --> 00:17:37.150 in the book, you talk about the Fibonacci sequence and 235 00:17:37.410 --> 00:17:40.410 the musica universalis, the universal music. 236 00:17:40.750 --> 00:17:42.230 We wonder if, you know. 237 00:17:42.299 --> 00:17:44.650 How would they know? Could they hear more than we could? 238 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:48.539 How would they know? Or was this just in, did 239 00:17:48.579 --> 00:17:52.700 they have much greater intuition? And because so many ancient 240 00:17:52.859 --> 00:17:58.930 cultures understand this, Egyptians too, There was another scientist who 241 00:17:58.990 --> 00:18:02.319 did studies in the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid 242 00:18:02.380 --> 00:18:06.480 of Giza, and he discovered that one particular note would 243 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:10.200 create a big reverberative effect, so much so that the 244 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:17.069 empty sarcophagus in the King's Chamber started moving and shaking. Now, 245 00:18:17.869 --> 00:18:21.029 he went back to do some tests on it, and 246 00:18:21.130 --> 00:18:25.059 on the third visit, he had hurt his back so badly. 247 00:18:25.380 --> 00:18:28.640 that he couldn't even bend over. He had really strained 248 00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:33.180 his back. And nothing, no painkillers could touch the sides 249 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:35.599 of it. But he was determined to go. He had 250 00:18:35.700 --> 00:18:39.240 booked a private visit there. And he went with all 251 00:18:39.259 --> 00:18:43.829 of his equipment, helpers helping him bring the stuff. And 252 00:18:43.869 --> 00:18:47.970 when they got there and he started doing the testing, 253 00:18:48.849 --> 00:18:52.230 he suddenly realized after playing the note, 117 hertz this time, 254 00:18:54.809 --> 00:18:57.950 that he was bending over. He didn't even realize it. 255 00:18:58.450 --> 00:19:01.650 And there was no pain. He was moving normally and 256 00:19:01.670 --> 00:19:04.640 there was no pain. And he was shocked by this, 257 00:19:04.700 --> 00:19:07.420 but he figured, well, it'll come back later. And it 258 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:12.180 never did. Not that evening, not the next day, ever. Now, 259 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:16.849 the ancients must have known something about that too. And 260 00:19:17.069 --> 00:19:23.329 ancient Egyptian writings talk about using and singing vowel sounds 261 00:19:23.450 --> 00:19:26.730 because they are Words of power. Now, that would have 262 00:19:26.750 --> 00:19:30.369 been Egyptian vowel sounds, but they understand these were words 263 00:19:30.410 --> 00:19:34.819 of power. Singing them had an effect. So I think 264 00:19:35.079 --> 00:19:43.720 that ancient people, and remember 6,000-year-old structures, people coming out 265 00:19:43.869 --> 00:19:50.539 of Neolithic periods, understood this. We saw it too. We 266 00:19:51.019 --> 00:19:53.839 had our own Indiana Jones moment. We went with an 267 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:59.740 archaeoacoustic expert, a professor of medicine who was also studying 268 00:19:59.819 --> 00:20:06.119 archaeoacoustics from Italy. We went with him and his researcher 269 00:20:06.569 --> 00:20:13.630 to 6,400-year-old structures in Sardinia. And we played 110 hertz, 270 00:20:13.869 --> 00:20:20.519 and lo and behold, we all felt a

huge reverberation. 271 00:20:21.059 --> 00:20:23.900 And the more we stayed in that structure, the more 272 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:27.480 we felt like, whoa, we are going into a definite 273 00:20:27.619 --> 00:20:31.740 altered state. So it was quite amazing. And I've played 274 00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:35.380 that note. with power of eight groups. I tried that 275 00:20:35.460 --> 00:20:38.799 with a conference this summer and people went into the 276 00:20:38.859 --> 00:20:41.849 deepest state they'd said they ever had with a power 277 00:20:41.869 --> 00:20:42.470 of eight group. 278 00:20:43.569 --> 00:20:46.109 That's, that's amazing. I want to come back to the 279 00:20:46.170 --> 00:20:50.549 healing piece because I know in the book, in the 280 00:20:50.589 --> 00:20:53.670 back of the book, you have a lot of resources 281 00:20:53.789 --> 00:20:58.390 and specific tones and, and ways to tune into that for, 282 00:20:58.490 --> 00:21:03.009 for different parts of the body because you're, One of 283 00:21:03.029 --> 00:21:04.789 the things you say in the book, too, is that 284 00:21:04.910 --> 00:21:09.569 sound is the body's first language. It actually affects our 285 00:21:09.670 --> 00:21:16.650 cells and our nervous system and can alter our brain activity, 286 00:21:16.890 --> 00:21:20.990 as you said, with measuring the brain waves. 287 00:21:22.650 --> 00:21:23.900 In those spaces. 288 00:21:24.500 --> 00:21:30.759 And so while we're talking about the overall, the music 289 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:35.970 of the spheres that creates and underlies everything. You also 290 00:21:36.609 --> 00:21:42.490 discovered some work by Alan Turing that we know as 291 00:21:43.349 --> 00:21:47.859 the World War II enigma, code breaker, mathematician, but he 292 00:21:47.980 --> 00:21:52.160 actually discovered a hidden pattern that has to do with sound. 293 00:21:52.180 --> 00:21:53.500 Can you talk a little bit about that? 294 00:21:54.200 --> 00:21:54.700 Sure. 295 00:21:55.799 --> 00:22:01.480 Alan Turing was fascinated by repeating patterns. And they are 296 00:22:01.519 --> 00:22:09.240 called in science harmonics, things like zebra stripes, leopard spots, 297 00:22:10.049 --> 00:22:16.170 flower petals in a perfect design, hot spots, even crime 298 00:22:16.210 --> 00:22:21.230 hot spots, dunes that have repeating patterns. The wind creates 299 00:22:21.269 --> 00:22:26.910 a repeating pattern. Waves create a repeating pattern in the 300 00:22:27.410 --> 00:22:34.619 seabed wall. or floor. So he started looking into this 301 00:22:35.460 --> 00:22:38.400 and looking into the chemistry of this, and he found 302 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:43.599 there was a similar activity among all of these creatures, 303 00:22:43.799 --> 00:22:48.039 all of these effects, and they are a harmonic yin-yang 304 00:22:48.900 --> 00:22:54.559 method or a harmonic effect of spread and then stop, 305 00:22:54.940 --> 00:23:00.440 spread and stop. And so Turing was able

to create 306 00:23:00.539 --> 00:23:08.220 a simple mathematical equation that described all of these effects. Now, 307 00:23:09.059 --> 00:23:16.839 decades later, an Oxford neuroscientist called Dr. Selin Atizoy was 308 00:23:16.940 --> 00:23:22.519 studying the effects of the brain and imaging them and 309 00:23:22.660 --> 00:23:27.289 realized the brain is operating as an orchestra. It also 310 00:23:27.369 --> 00:23:33.490 has harmonic patterns. And when she applied Turing's mathematics to 311 00:23:33.529 --> 00:23:39.369 the brain, it described the brain at rest. It described 312 00:23:39.490 --> 00:23:45.650 brain activity. She published that in a very prestigious scientific journal, 313 00:23:46.210 --> 00:23:49.690 and others are following up about it. But here's the 314 00:23:49.750 --> 00:23:54.130 amazing thing. So Turing had come up with a single equation, 315 00:23:54.609 --> 00:23:58.750 that was essentially the musical key to the universe. And 316 00:23:58.809 --> 00:24:02.539 now we see that human beings are also part of 317 00:24:02.599 --> 00:24:07.920 this musical key. We, it describes the workings of our brain. 318 00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:14.079 So for me, that was the big eye-opener, because I 319 00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:18.920 have never believed in random evolution. The universe is much 320 00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:24.319 too brilliantly patterned for it to have been a random accident. 321 00:24:24.980 --> 00:24:29.630 But now I am totally convinced because I see that 322 00:24:30.230 --> 00:24:36.150 the underpinning to everything seems to be sound and music. 323 00:24:36.369 --> 00:24:39.839 And just looking at it from that level, you understand 324 00:24:40.259 --> 00:24:45.900 this never could have been created randomly. We are one unified, 325 00:24:46.420 --> 00:24:52.279 intelligent design. We are one intergalactic sonic superorganism. 326 00:24:53.750 --> 00:24:55.049 It's amazing. 327 00:24:55.690 --> 00:24:58.839 The workings of our brain and the operation of the 328 00:24:58.890 --> 00:25:04.119 cosmos are literally in harmony, the same patterns and proportions. 329 00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:10.599 I had read another piece, Lynn, by a molecular biologist 330 00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:16.680 in Warsaw, Ewa Grabowska, who wrote an article that says, 331 00:25:16.859 --> 00:25:23.759 organisms are musicians, not machines, that living cells are you know, 332 00:25:23.859 --> 00:25:27.839 once thought to be these precise molecular factories are turning 333 00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:34.029 out to be more like improvisational jazz ensembles. And I 334 00:25:34.109 --> 00:25:38.910 know that you found that, you know, proteins are musical. 335 00:25:39.109 --> 00:25:43.450 There's some amazing music that you share in the book 336 00:25:43.509 --> 00:25:49.380 and also on your book site. These amazing tunes that 337 00:25:49.420 --> 00:25:51.799 are proteins playing music. 338 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:57.319 Absolutely. Now, this is the work of Dr. Marcus Bueller, 339 00:25:57.420 --> 00:26:03.390 who is a material scientist at MIT. And Bueller handles 340 00:26:03.470 --> 00:26:06.869 things like creating better plastics and all of that normally. 341 00:26:07.269 --> 00:26:11.250 But he's also fascinated by many other things. And one 342 00:26:11.269 --> 00:26:14.670 of the things that fascinated him was what is called 343 00:26:14.710 --> 00:26:20.230 the protein folding problem. Proteins are so essential to human 344 00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:24.250 beings and so many things in the world. But scientists 345 00:26:24.329 --> 00:26:30.490 don't understand how amino acids work and why proteins move. 346 00:26:30.970 --> 00:26:34.240 Proteins are constantly on the move. They stretch out like 347 00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:38.880 a slinky. They do somersaults. They fold over in the 348 00:26:38.940 --> 00:26:42.500 blink of an eye. They just don't stay still. And 349 00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:47.849 we don't understand how amino acids can create this. We 350 00:26:47.869 --> 00:26:51.009 know which amino acids make up a protein, but how 351 00:26:51.049 --> 00:26:55.950 does it all work? So Buehler is also a musician 352 00:26:55.990 --> 00:27:01.289 and a composer, and he recognized that amino acids all 353 00:27:01.329 --> 00:27:04.500 have a frequency. I mean, we now know from lots 354 00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:08.839 of other research, too, that cells make sounds and communicate 355 00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:12.039 to each other, but so do amino acids. So he 356 00:27:12.099 --> 00:27:15.509 said to himself, well, what if I raise the pitch 357 00:27:16.289 --> 00:27:18.970 so it's the same intervals between the notes but just 358 00:27:19.029 --> 00:27:21.750 a higher pitch? you know, an octave or two higher 359 00:27:21.789 --> 00:27:25.430 so we can hear it. So he did that, and 360 00:27:25.450 --> 00:27:28.869 then he took the notes that resulted and fed them 361 00:27:28.970 --> 00:27:34.150 into an AI orchestra, and out came extraordinary music. So 362 00:27:34.210 --> 00:27:37.930 he did enzymes, and what came out sounded like a 363 00:27:38.170 --> 00:27:44.650 wonderful melodic jazz with repeating melodies, etc. Then he tried 364 00:27:45.299 --> 00:27:49.539 the COVID-19 spike proteins. It was during COVID when he 365 00:27:49.579 --> 00:27:53.900 was doing this testing. And what came out was this, 366 00:27:54.180 --> 00:27:59.740 what sounded like beautiful Japanese music, but what was extraordinary 367 00:27:59.789 --> 00:28:03.349 about it is he realized it was written in counterpoint. 368 00:28:03.829 --> 00:28:09.569 Now by counterpoint, I mean two different melodies that interlock 369 00:28:09.950 --> 00:28:15.450 and interweave. Think of Johann Sebastian Bach. Almost all of 370 00:28:15.529 --> 00:28:19.569 his work is written in counterpoint. And when Buehler looked further, 371 00:28:19.630 --> 00:28:25.109 he found all proteins in the body are written in counterpoint.

372 00:28:25.789 --> 00:28:29.910 So we are making music every second of every day. 373 00:28:30.450 --> 00:28:33.029 It's amazing. It's just, we can't hear it. But when 374 00:28:33.049 --> 00:28:35.430 you raise the pitch, we can. 375 00:28:36.569 --> 00:28:44.059 Yes, it's fascinating. And the music is extraordinary. And we'll 376 00:28:44.099 --> 00:28:46.859 talk about those resources at the end of the show. 377 00:28:47.269 --> 00:28:49.509 We're going to take a brief break. And when we 378 00:28:49.549 --> 00:28:52.529 come back, we're going to talk about the God notes 379 00:28:53.309 --> 00:28:57.099 and the bad notes. This is Julianne Turner. 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Go to ConsciousShiftShow.com right now 421 00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:09.430 to claim your Conscious Shift notes, action guide and audios 422 00:32:09.769 --> 00:32:12.049 to guide you step by step to make your own 423 00:32:12.109 --> 00:32:14.690 conscious shift into your true greatness today. 424 00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:27.980 Welcome back, everyone. You are listening to The Conscious Shift Show. 425 00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:30.480 This is Julianne Turner, and I have the privilege of 426 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.809 talking with Lynn McTaggart today. She is talking about her 427 00:32:33.910 --> 00:32:38.130 new book, The God Notes, How Sound Creates the World. 428 00:32:38.690 --> 00:32:41.710 And we've had a fascinating conversation so far. We are 429 00:32:41.730 --> 00:32:45.630 going to actually talk about, at this point, what are 430 00:32:45.670 --> 00:32:49.579 the God Notes? And is there a counterpoint to that? 431 00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:54.730 Are there negative notes or bad notes? So Lynn, you 432 00:32:54.750 --> 00:32:57.109 talked a little bit at the beginning about your search 433 00:32:57.150 --> 00:32:59.430 for the God notes. And we talked about some of 434 00:32:59.470 --> 00:33:05.420 those frequencies that are very positive, even transcendental, healing notes. 435 00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:08.799 Talk a little bit more about certain. 436 00:33:08.579 --> 00:33:12.079 Sounds that can have healing effects

and those kinds of 437 00:33:12.140 --> 00:33:14.339 things that are the good notes or the God notes. 438 00:33:15.099 --> 00:33:19.549 Okay. So there have been so many different studies showing 439 00:33:19.569 --> 00:33:23.059 that Not only are we making sounds, but we're hugely 440 00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:27.880 affected by sounds. Just a single note, when tried out 441 00:33:27.940 --> 00:33:33.640 in the laboratory, has upregulated about 140 genes. They have 442 00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:38.339 extraordinary effects and different effects on different cells in the body, 443 00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:43.049 whether it's muscle cells or even fat cells. Fat cells 444 00:33:43.170 --> 00:33:44.529 hate 440 hertz. It is at least. 445 00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:53.420 Rat fat cells, I believe they are. So this is interesting. 446 00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:56.029 I want to test it. And also that's the note 447 00:33:56.210 --> 00:34:00.210 that people in orchestras use to tune up the orchestra. 448 00:34:00.589 --> 00:34:05.160 So next time you're at a classical music concert, check 449 00:34:05.299 --> 00:34:08.280 out the orchestra. See if there are any fat people 450 00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:13.159 in the orchestra. If they aren't, The theory is correct. 451 00:34:15.420 --> 00:34:19.980 But that's just a playful idea. I mean, there are 452 00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:25.820 so many different notes. Blood cell studies where different blood 453 00:34:25.909 --> 00:34:32.110 cells were tested with different music found that blood cells 454 00:34:32.289 --> 00:34:37.789 lived up to 23 times longer with guests. I mean, 455 00:34:37.889 --> 00:34:43.909 people usually think Tchaikovsky or Bach. Beethoven, Beethoven's Ninth, The 456 00:34:44.010 --> 00:34:48.329 Ode to Joy. But no, what helped them grow and 457 00:34:48.610 --> 00:34:54.610 maintain and take up more oxygen, the longest, were techno 458 00:34:54.650 --> 00:34:58.849 beats with a low female voice. So it's just, think 459 00:34:58.909 --> 00:35:03.530 about it, it's that insistent beat, which is very much 460 00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:07.019 like the insistent beat of our own heart. But then 461 00:35:07.059 --> 00:35:10.530 there are certain notes that that are really, really good 462 00:35:10.570 --> 00:35:13.210 for us. So I'm going to play one. This was 463 00:35:13.309 --> 00:35:19.380 discovered by John Bilyeu, who is a psychologist who discovered 464 00:35:19.550 --> 00:35:24.940 one day when his nervous system was really agitated after 465 00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:29.420 having an argument with the subway token taker. He was 466 00:35:29.500 --> 00:35:32.780 very upset. He came back and he said, my nervous 467 00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:36.090 system is really going crazy. So there was a music 468 00:35:36.150 --> 00:35:39.519 store near the hospital where he worked in New York, Bellevue. 469 00:35:40.179 --> 00:35:42.920 And he ran there, and because he's a musician, he 470 00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:47.360 knew

that he could try doing a perfect fifth, which 471 00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:54.659 is C and G, and sounds like this. So he 472 00:35:54.739 --> 00:36:01.119 played this, and after about 10 minutes, playing this repeatedly... 473 00:36:02.380 --> 00:36:06.400 his immune system and his nervous system just calmed down 474 00:36:07.409 --> 00:36:10.570 and went back to normal. So he got an idea, 475 00:36:10.650 --> 00:36:14.809 being a psychologist working in psychiatric wards, he would start 476 00:36:14.989 --> 00:36:18.889 using this when he was treating his patients. So first 477 00:36:18.929 --> 00:36:21.539 of all, he used to walk through the wards at night, 478 00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:27.039 just dinging this sound, just going down the wards, playing this, 479 00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:32.929 and The patients, many of them suffering from insomnia and agitation, 480 00:36:32.969 --> 00:36:36.389 would calm down and go to sleep. He started using 481 00:36:36.429 --> 00:36:40.889 it with patients who were highly disturbed and very, very 482 00:36:41.530 --> 00:36:46.789 full of great anxiety, PTSD. And one patient calmed him 483 00:36:46.889 --> 00:36:50.769 right down and he managed to move on with his 484 00:36:50.869 --> 00:36:54.409 life and have a normal life. Same thing with another 485 00:36:54.530 --> 00:36:59.800 one who was just suffering greatly from depression. By giving 486 00:36:59.860 --> 00:37:04.739 him this and one other note, he was able to 487 00:37:05.380 --> 00:37:10.699 calm his depression, overcome his sense of anxiety and upset, 488 00:37:10.860 --> 00:37:13.889 and again, make up with his wife. He had been 489 00:37:13.949 --> 00:37:18.690 separated before because of a lot of his own personal difficulty. 490 00:37:19.469 --> 00:37:25.219 So he's just one of a few people I've talked 491 00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:33.150 to using sounds to heal. everything from backs to even epilepsy. 492 00:37:34.769 --> 00:37:39.130 There is another sound healer, Dr. Jeffrey Thompson, and I 493 00:37:39.269 --> 00:37:44.409 limited myself to talking to sound healers who had actual 494 00:37:44.610 --> 00:37:50.119 evidence of using it to heal, as Dr. Bilyeu did. 495 00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:55.480 So did Dr. Thompson, a chiropractor, who by accident discovered 496 00:37:55.539 --> 00:37:59.889 that playing a certain note could create an adjustment on 497 00:37:59.929 --> 00:38:02.769 his wife that he would normally do with a crunch 498 00:38:02.809 --> 00:38:06.380 and crack. It did it with just sound. So he 499 00:38:06.489 --> 00:38:10.539 started experimenting with that and working on it more and 500 00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:16.460 more and found that he could use sounds of a 501 00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:20.480 great variety to help women with female problems of every 502 00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:30.250 variety and then children with ADD, with ADHD, with even 503 00:38:30.269 --> 00:38:34.429 with autism and probably his most noted case with a 504 00:38:34.449 --> 00:38:39.869 little child who was very small and yet had terrible epilepsy, 505 00:38:40.409 --> 00:38:46.969 about 25th fits a day. And what happened was the 506 00:38:47.010 --> 00:38:49.300 parents were so worried about him that he used to 507 00:38:49.380 --> 00:38:52.519 walk around with a helmet on because otherwise he would 508 00:38:52.539 --> 00:38:56.500 have hit his head having his fits. So they were concerned. 509 00:38:56.519 --> 00:39:00.139 They'd heard about Dr. Thompson and his success with other children, 510 00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:05.949 went to see him, and he played certain sounds for 511 00:39:05.989 --> 00:39:08.969 them and said, here, I'm burning this on a CD. 512 00:39:09.909 --> 00:39:15.150 These are your son's sounds, gave them to them. They 513 00:39:15.210 --> 00:39:19.469 played it several times a day, and the little boy 514 00:39:19.570 --> 00:39:24.219 went from 20 fifths to 15 fifths to 10 fits 5, 515 00:39:24.219 --> 00:39:28.489 and then finally nothing. So he was healed just by 516 00:39:28.530 --> 00:39:30.579 the virtue of listening to sounds. 517 00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:33.719 So there are. 518 00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:39.659 Also sounds that cancer cells don't like, right? You had 519 00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:44.530 mentioned that Beethoven's fifth or heavy metal actually can destroy 520 00:39:44.610 --> 00:39:45.389 cancer cells. 521 00:39:45.429 --> 00:39:46.510 Isn't that amazing? 522 00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:47.480 Yes. 523 00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:50.530 Now, these are only cells in the laboratory, so it 524 00:39:50.570 --> 00:39:53.869 hasn't been tested out on people yet, but these are 525 00:39:53.929 --> 00:39:59.929 people's cells. So, Beethoven's Fifth killed breast cancer cells. Now, 526 00:40:00.550 --> 00:40:06.289 think about it. Beethoven's Fifth has irregular beats, da-da-da-da, particularly 527 00:40:06.369 --> 00:40:09.659 as it's played now. Cancer cells don't like that. They 528 00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:13.579 also don't like atonal music, like the soundtrack of 2001 529 00:40:13.579 --> 00:40:20.239 is atonal. a composer called Ligeti's Atmospheres. And they also 530 00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:28.059 hate heavy metal. So that killed gastric cancer cells. So 531 00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:32.119 cancer cells also like a regular beat. So that is 532 00:40:32.139 --> 00:40:37.179 a really interesting way to deal with it. And scientists 533 00:40:37.340 --> 00:40:41.340 are now discovering, and as our doctors have done experiments 534 00:40:41.389 --> 00:40:45.980 with very high frequency, sounds well above our capacity to 535 00:40:46.099 --> 00:40:53.539 hear called histotripsy. And they've discovered that those sounds enable 536 00:40:53.619 --> 00:40:58.059 the immune system to recognize cancer and kill it. Remember, 537 00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:01.789 cancer is like a thief in the night that breaks 538 00:41:01.869 --> 00:41:05.269 in the house, turns off the alarm system, and then 539

00:41:05.329 --> 00:41:08.769 runs riot through the house. In this case, the alarm 540 00:41:08.809 --> 00:41:12.050 system is the immune system. It doesn't recognize cancer. That's 541 00:41:12.130 --> 00:41:16.510 the problem. But with these sounds, it opens up the 542 00:41:16.590 --> 00:41:20.230 membrane of the cancer cell, enabling the immune system of 543 00:41:20.289 --> 00:41:22.869 our bodies to recognize it and go in and kill 544 00:41:22.909 --> 00:41:28.570 it itself. So histotripsy has now been approved by the U.S. 545 00:41:28.610 --> 00:41:34.570 Food and Drug Administration for use in healing cancer, liver cancer, 546 00:41:34.929 --> 00:41:37.769 and it's being trialed on some other cancers too. So 547 00:41:37.829 --> 00:41:39.690 it may be the medicine of the future. 548 00:41:39.710 --> 00:41:44.409 I was going to ask you, Lynn, How much do 549 00:41:44.449 --> 00:41:50.289 you feel to this point that the medical system is 550 00:41:51.230 --> 00:41:54.130 open to accepting and using these techniques? 551 00:41:55.190 --> 00:41:59.070 Well, I was amazed that the FDA approved this because 552 00:41:59.489 --> 00:42:03.969 sound is considered a nice little adjunct to the main 553 00:42:04.010 --> 00:42:09.849 event in medicine. I mean, when they call things music medicine, 554 00:42:10.309 --> 00:42:13.599 what they kind of mean is Well, we'll play this 555 00:42:13.739 --> 00:42:17.059 for Alzheimer patients and it'll calm them down, but we'll 556 00:42:17.460 --> 00:42:20.480 still give them drugs. But what they were talking about 557 00:42:20.539 --> 00:42:25.820 with histotripsy and what increasingly we are seeing is sound 558 00:42:26.099 --> 00:42:30.300 is its own healer. There are certain sounds that can 559 00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:36.360 heal particular conditions and we have to start recognizing there's 560 00:42:36.380 --> 00:42:41.989 something so fundamental about us, which medicine doesn't really recognize. 561 00:42:42.610 --> 00:42:46.030 and scientists don't recognize in the main, which is we're 562 00:42:46.090 --> 00:42:49.349 simply a vibrating packet of energy. And we have four 563 00:42:49.389 --> 00:42:54.659 different kinds of energy in our systems, electromagnetic, light energy, 564 00:42:55.619 --> 00:42:59.219 quantum energy, where we're seeing some quantum effects in the brain, 565 00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:04.559 and now sound energy, which is not only affecting our 566 00:43:04.699 --> 00:43:09.329 cells and our amino acids, but we're seeing that sound 567 00:43:09.909 --> 00:43:14.460 is also driving the nervous system that the nervous system 568 00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:19.739 seems to communicate through sound too according to certain researchers 569 00:43:19.780 --> 00:43:22.710 who have published evidence about this and now we know 570 00:43:22.789 --> 00:43:26.210 our brain is an orchestra too so we have a 571 00:43:26.269 --> 00:43:28.829 lot of sound energy going on too it stands to 572 00:43:28.949 --> 00:43:34.489 reason that we can use music from the outside sounds 573 00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:38.800 from the outside to heal too right. 574 00:43:38.900 --> 00:43:44.219 And you said um I love this phrase, sound was 575 00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:50.559 energy's Cinderella. It's kind of the stepchild and never really 576 00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:54.719 recognized for the power that it has. And you're equating 577 00:43:54.780 --> 00:43:57.760 it with the other main types of energy puts it 578 00:43:57.860 --> 00:44:00.260 really at the level that we should be considering it. 579 00:44:01.139 --> 00:44:05.289 Absolutely. It is the Cinderella. I mean, Steven Pinker, a 580 00:44:05.489 --> 00:44:10.769 noted scientist, once called music auditory cheesecake. In other words, 581 00:44:10.889 --> 00:44:14.050 something that doesn't really do anything for us, but is 582 00:44:14.110 --> 00:44:17.429 just fun. It's like a little treat, a dessert on 583 00:44:17.469 --> 00:44:22.659 the side. And that is so untrue. And that's so reductive. 584 00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:27.800 Because music of any of the arts is the only 585 00:44:27.940 --> 00:44:32.159 one that produces a literal chill down the spine. You know, 586 00:44:32.219 --> 00:44:36.900 we get goosebumps when we hear certain amazing music. We 587 00:44:36.940 --> 00:44:39.840 can see art and really love it and appreciate it 588 00:44:39.940 --> 00:44:42.719 and even be overwhelmed by it, but it doesn't produce 589 00:44:42.780 --> 00:44:49.710 that same visceral physical effect. So music is powerful for us, 590 00:44:49.780 --> 00:44:55.969 but more than that, sound is intrinsic to human beings, animals, 591 00:44:56.250 --> 00:45:00.949 even plants, and of course the cosmos. We are musical 592 00:45:00.989 --> 00:45:04.769 in the way we relate to each other. We get entrained. 593 00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:10.119 These two oscillatory systems, me and say you, we're standing 594 00:45:10.179 --> 00:45:12.860 next to each other. We start getting entrained right away 595 00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:16.610 because we are vibrating entities. So we have to see 596 00:45:16.659 --> 00:45:21.489 ourselves as something very different than a collection of chemical 597 00:45:21.590 --> 00:45:26.469 signaling and flesh, which is what the medical profession sees 598 00:45:26.590 --> 00:45:29.349 us as. And then we can recognize there are good 599 00:45:29.429 --> 00:45:32.469 sounds for us and there are not so good sounds 600 00:45:32.530 --> 00:45:32.909 for us. 601 00:45:34.010 --> 00:45:40.750 Right. you know, the ancients, the Greeks studied music just 602 00:45:40.929 --> 00:45:42.030 equal to mathematics. 603 00:45:42.230 --> 00:45:48.360 They felt like it was of equal knowledge and importance. 604 00:45:48.480 --> 00:45:52.780 And I think they had something that we've lost and 605 00:45:52.820 --> 00:45:55.860 hopefully are regaining with this work that you're doing. But 606 00:45:56.260 -->

00:45:59.030 as you said, there are sounds that can harm us. 607 00:45:59.090 --> 00:46:03.730 Some of the mechanical sounds, you mentioned the solar flares 608 00:46:03.829 --> 00:46:08.860 or wind turbines, some of these cacophonic sounds that can 609 00:46:08.980 --> 00:46:09.800 actually be. 610 00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:10.579 Harmful to us. 611 00:46:11.579 --> 00:46:16.039 Absolutely. And the interesting thing to understand about certain sounds 612 00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:20.599 is it doesn't have to be loud. It's particular notes. Now, 613 00:46:20.699 --> 00:46:24.760 wind turbines, as you mentioned, wind farms, you know, we're 614 00:46:24.820 --> 00:46:28.119 all worried about climate change and all of that. And 615 00:46:28.260 --> 00:46:31.760 so people look upon wind farms as good. but they 616 00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:35.460 emit a sound below the capacity of humans to hear 617 00:46:35.860 --> 00:46:39.760 that is called infrasound, and that can have major negative 618 00:46:39.820 --> 00:46:43.750 effects on the body at certain frequencies. They can give 619 00:46:43.829 --> 00:46:51.250 us headaches, insomnia, nausea, etc. So they're bad sounds if 620 00:46:51.289 --> 00:46:54.130 you live nearby. And of course, think of the aquatic 621 00:46:54.230 --> 00:46:58.010 creatures who are listening to this too, with more acute 622 00:46:58.050 --> 00:47:03.369 hearing than we have. Then we have natural sounds that 623 00:47:03.409 --> 00:47:08.460 are not good for us. For instance, California's Santa Ana winds. Now, 624 00:47:08.659 --> 00:47:12.619 everybody knows people go a little crazy in California when 625 00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:15.579 the Santa Anas blow, and they've always blamed it on 626 00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:19.530 the wind itself. You know, when the Santa Anas blow, 627 00:47:21.389 --> 00:47:24.969 teachers oftentimes close their classrooms because they know the kids 628 00:47:25.070 --> 00:47:29.269 aren't going to sit still. And Raymond Chandler, the wonderful 629 00:47:29.329 --> 00:47:35.949 crime writer, wrote very, very wonderfully about this and individually 630 00:47:36.010 --> 00:47:38.369 about this when he said, when the Santa Ana blow, 631 00:47:38.869 --> 00:47:43.099 every little housewife picks up a carving knife and starts 632 00:47:43.139 --> 00:47:49.199 staring at her husband's neck. Very colorful way to put it. 633 00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:52.599 But it's just the point is people go crazy and 634 00:47:52.619 --> 00:47:55.699 they think it's the wind, but it's not. It's the 635 00:47:55.800 --> 00:48:01.420 sounds we cannot hear, the infrasounds. These were used as 636 00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:08.010 a terrorist activity in Havana with the American embassy. All 637 00:48:08.030 --> 00:48:10.989 of the inhabitants there, all the people who were the employees, 638 00:48:11.090 --> 00:48:14.469 complained of headaches, nausea, all that kind of stuff. And 639 00:48:14.489 --> 00:48:18.730 it was written off as psychogenic illness. You know, it's 640 00:48:18.789 --> 00:48:22.000 all in your head. until they realized that there had 641 00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:26.869 been terrorist attacks using sound, using infrasound, and it was 642 00:48:26.949 --> 00:48:32.130 having a positive effect, meaning it was hurting the inhabitants. 643 00:48:32.769 --> 00:48:36.849 So infrasound is real, and there are some good notes, 644 00:48:36.869 --> 00:48:39.820 some bad notes. In the book, I give people a 645 00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:44.199 way to find out about it. If you believe that 646 00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:47.949 you are the victim of certain infrasounds, near you or 647 00:48:48.030 --> 00:48:50.650 natural sounds that are harming you can test them. There's 648 00:48:50.730 --> 00:48:51.900 a simple way to test it. 649 00:48:52.750 --> 00:48:53.570 That's amazing. 650 00:48:55.030 --> 00:49:00.340 And so you mentioned that we humans in interacting with 651 00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:06.900 one another in our social interactions, we tend to entrain 652 00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:10.650 and have kind of a rhythm together. It has kind 653 00:49:10.650 --> 00:49:13.980 of a biological. 654 00:49:12.530 --> 00:49:14.849 Base in music. 655 00:49:14.130 --> 00:49:17.139 And All of your work, You know, this is your 656 00:49:17.340 --> 00:49:20.860 fifth book when making the case that we're more connected 657 00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:25.239 to each other and to the world than we're told. 658 00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:28.860 What does that tell you about humanity? 659 00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:33.449 Well, I've been saying for more than 25 years, we 660 00:49:33.510 --> 00:49:38.949 are all connected, whether it is by a quantum energy field, 661 00:49:39.849 --> 00:49:43.699 And each time with each book, I've looked into that 662 00:49:43.739 --> 00:49:46.980 a little further. So we found that, we found we're 663 00:49:47.039 --> 00:49:52.800 connected with our thoughts, that we are essentially leaky buckets 664 00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:56.760 sending out intention and affecting each other, affecting the world 665 00:49:56.860 --> 00:50:00.519 with it. And that we amplify it in group effects, 666 00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:02.889 all thinking the same thing at the same time. And 667 00:50:02.929 --> 00:50:07.210 now with the God notes, seeing that we are affecting 668 00:50:07.289 --> 00:50:11.460 each other with everything we do in the way we 669 00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:16.849 relate to each other, interesting studies have shown that when 670 00:50:16.889 --> 00:50:22.230 people interact, the other person, the listener, is blinking and 671 00:50:22.329 --> 00:50:26.849 nodding and moving in time to their voice. When children play, 672 00:50:27.789 --> 00:50:33.090 you can observe them, as one anthropologist did, film them secretly, 673 00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:40.380 and played a pop song afterward, that matched their movements exactly, 674 00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:43.639 even though they had been

listening to no music. We're 675 00:50:43.699 --> 00:50:50.320 moving naturally, rhythmically. And the explanation has come recently to 676 00:50:50.380 --> 00:50:55.659 talk about how we are oscillating systems and like a pendulum, 677 00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:59.719 where you can take two pendulums and they're swinging in 678 00:50:59.820 --> 00:51:04.900 opposite directions and eventually they start swinging in unison very quickly. 679 00:51:05.219 --> 00:51:08.260 They trade energy back and forth. It looks like human 680 00:51:08.300 --> 00:51:12.900 beings do the same. Now, we are rhythmic when we're 681 00:51:12.940 --> 00:51:16.840 getting along. When we're not getting along, we aren't rhythmic. 682 00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:21.139 So that's a lesson. That's a lesson to us to 683 00:51:21.219 --> 00:51:26.630 figure out that when we do things rhythmically, it probably 684 00:51:26.710 --> 00:51:28.929 helps our relationship. 685 00:51:29.989 --> 00:51:30.309 Yes. 686 00:51:31.590 --> 00:51:33.070 To listen to the harmonies. 687 00:51:33.969 --> 00:51:37.280 Absolutely. Maybe go out dancing. together. 688 00:51:39.050 --> 00:51:41.829 It'll improve your relationship. Literally. 689 00:51:42.449 --> 00:51:43.989 Yes, absolutely. 690 00:51:44.909 --> 00:51:49.530 So in the God notes, in the back of the book, 691 00:51:49.610 --> 00:51:52.909 you have the best notes, which is a very special 692 00:51:52.989 --> 00:51:59.989 section where you offer specific frequencies for calm, for elevation, 693 00:52:00.150 --> 00:52:05.570 for different types of healing, which is a remarkable resource. 694 00:52:06.250 --> 00:52:09.610 And we want to let everyone know where they can 695 00:52:10.329 --> 00:52:16.329 find you, find the book, and you're on tour right now. 696 00:52:16.650 --> 00:52:19.079 Tell us a little bit about where we can find 697 00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:20.079 you and what's going on. 698 00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:25.860 Okay, so you can all find me on lynnmctaggart.com. And 699 00:52:26.139 --> 00:52:29.659 if you buy the book, I have QR codes in there. 700 00:52:29.760 --> 00:52:32.519 And they lead you to a special page on my 701 00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:36.469 website where you can hear some of those sounds. And 702 00:52:36.530 --> 00:52:39.730 then if you want to dive in further, it has 703 00:52:39.789 --> 00:52:42.190 more information about how to go to another page to 704 00:52:42.260 --> 00:52:46.139 hear even more. So I have that where you can 705 00:52:46.340 --> 00:52:51.820 listen to them and you can explore with them. But 706 00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:57.710 I also am speaking in public, as you say. So 707 00:52:58.250 --> 00:53:03.409 I've been in Los Angeles, in Santa Monica, and then Phoenix, 708 00:53:03.969 --> 00:53:09.340 and now on the... 19th of November, I'll be in Austin, Texas. 709 00:53:09.820 --> 00:53:15.099 And on Saturday, November 21st, I'll be in New York City. 710 00:53:15.579 --> 00:53:18.320 And if you're interested in coming and seeing and working 711 00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:23.239 with me in person, Austin is an evening event. New 712 00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:28.530 York City is an all-day event. Just go on my website, lynnmctaggart.com 713 00:53:28.590 --> 00:53:33.590 forward slash events, and you'll see the whole schedule. And 714 00:53:33.630 --> 00:53:39.570 you can also Find a lot of resources on my website, lynnmctaggart.com. 715 00:53:40.349 --> 00:53:43.530 And I'll be running very soon, I'll be launching, and 716 00:53:45.389 --> 00:53:47.659 it should be launched by the time you listen to this, 717 00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:52.119 I'll be launching a new masterclass, which is going to 718 00:53:52.219 --> 00:53:56.920 include intention and sound. So I've married the two so 719 00:53:56.940 --> 00:54:00.239 that people can go much deeper. And I've been experimenting 720 00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:03.869 with it, playing certain sounds while people are in a 721 00:54:03.929 --> 00:54:07.769 power of eight groups, And it is the most extraordinary 722 00:54:07.889 --> 00:54:12.869 and deepest experience people say they've had. So we'll be 723 00:54:12.929 --> 00:54:17.269 diving very deeply into that with my year-long course. So 724 00:54:17.610 --> 00:54:18.829 you can check that out too. 725 00:54:18.849 --> 00:54:21.309 That sounds extraordinary. 726 00:54:22.250 --> 00:54:25.750 So much that your work has revealed to us, Lynn. 727 00:54:26.130 --> 00:54:32.329 We so appreciate you, your spirit, your investigative. 728 00:54:31.670 --> 00:54:34.610 Heart, and everyone watching. 729 00:54:35.449 --> 00:54:48.610 The URL is lynnmctaggart.com. I want to spell that for you. L-Y-N-N-E-M-C-T-A-G-G-A-R-T.com. 730 00:54:49.030 --> 00:54:52.210 Because there's lots of ways to spell Lynn and McTaggart. 731 00:54:52.250 --> 00:54:57.300 We want to make sure you get to the right place. lynnmctaggart.com. Lynn, 732 00:54:57.340 --> 00:55:01.199 thank you so much for joining us here. And it's 733 00:55:01.300 --> 00:55:04.289 been a joy as always to have you. And thank 734 00:55:04.309 --> 00:55:07.250 you for sharing this wisdom. And I have no doubt 735 00:55:08.030 --> 00:55:10.269 that the world is going to be talking about this 736 00:55:10.949 --> 00:55:12.219 for centuries to come. 737 00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:16.300 Thank you so much, Julianne. It's been great speaking with you. 738 00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:20.179 Absolutely. Beautiful to see you again. We'll be right back. 739 00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:23.260 This is Julianne Turner. You're listening to Conscious Shift. 740 00:55:29.289 --> 00:55:33.320 All visionaries, sages, and thought leaders... have used a pattern 741 00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:38.590 of thought and archetype of creation to think dramatically differently 742 00:55:38.690 --> 00:55:43.849 from everyone else. In fact, these visionaries begin with an 743 00:55:43.929 --> 00:55:48.789 entirely different worldview that enables them to see beyond

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