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Hi, my name is Paul Scheer. And I feel sanguine
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about being Conan O'Brien's friend.
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Hey there, welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend. Sitting
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here with my peeps, Sona Movsesian, Matt Gorley. Sona, you
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seem pretty chipper. What's going on? I, uh.
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You have a microphone right in front of you.
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Come on, man.
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You are a fucking foghorn. Just, wasn't that loud?
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No.
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Matt, please tell me. I can hear me.
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Matt.
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No, no, no, no. You have to choose. Do you
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want to live with mommy or with daddy?
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I want to live at the orphanage.
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Sona, I'm just next to you. Eduardo, why don't you.
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It was a little loud.
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Come on.
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Just try to just be, just. Use your voice and
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we're all here. And guess what? We love you.
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It's when you talk quietly to like talk about how
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loud I am.
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It just really, it really gets me.
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That's what really pisses me off.
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Okay, I'm really sorry.
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And you don't do that.
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Don't do that.
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So tell us.
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Can we move on?
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Yes, let's move on.
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I know I'm going to. I don't know.
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Okay. You seemed like you were in a good mood.
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I was. And then you were in such a good mood.
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I was in a good mood.
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You were screaming into a mic inches from your face.
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What happened that made you happy?
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Okay, so I went to Las Vegas for the day
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to be on a panel.
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At a conference.
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Wait, why were you on a panel? I don't know.
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Who would put you on a panel? Seriously, why are
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you on a panel?
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Not only that.
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Who else was on the panel? Snuffleupagus? Oh, Jesus. I'm choking.
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I would love to see the panel. It starts with Sona,
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and then it's like snuffleupagus. Oh, my God.
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A beach pail with a face painted on it. Why
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was that a- A bowl of nectarines. And we've got
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our panel. I'm sorry, Sona, I didn't mean to put
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you down.
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Oh, my God. At the NAB show in Vegas- What's
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a NAB show?
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Yeah, what's a NAB?
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NAB is the National Association of Broadcasters. And then I
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was part of the BEA- It's.
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Named after Bea Arthur?
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Oh, God.
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I hate it here so much.
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So let's get through this because I want to get
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through the explaining of this.
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And I was on a panel.
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You're right.
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I was on a panel with the chief content officer
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of one media company and then the chief financial officer
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of another media company.
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And it was the three of us.
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This is the greatest scam in the world. And you
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were there as in what capacity?
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As someone who's on a very popular podcast.
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Which one's that?
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A clown. Wait, so you were there because of this podcast?
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Because of this podcast, I went to Vegas for a day.
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Do you get invited to stuff like this?
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No.
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I don't think I got invited to this.
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I'm sure you guys get invited. I say yes to everything. Plus,
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my cousin works for the company that asked me to
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do it. And I was happy to do it.
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Oh, yeah.
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Explanation received.
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But I just want you guys to know I am
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representing this podcast.
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In an official forum.
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Okay, so a relative works for the company.
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Yeah, so we went to Vegas for the day. We
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flew out.
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Who's we?
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Me and Tack.
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So we flew out, and then we had time for
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lunch beforehand, so we went to the Encore restaurant. And
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then we went to this place called Wazuzu. And the waiter,
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I remember his name is Taylor. I remember this so vividly.
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Is a huge fan of this podcast. And then my
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meal was comped.
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No.
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Yes.
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Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Because, and I say
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this with all kindness, but you and Tack, you like,
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you know.
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Oh, no.
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You like drinks. You like, I mean, it's not going
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to be cheap is all I'm going to say.
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That is not true.
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What do you mean?
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Because Tack doesn't go crazy.
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I do. I do.
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But yeah, but it's Vegas, so it's like not a
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cheap meal. It's an expensive meal.
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And you said Taylor, Taylor being man.
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He's a man, yeah.
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Taylor being man. Taylor being man.
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That's a line that was cut out of Planet of
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the Apes. Taylor being man. You are not welcome in
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the forbidden zone. OK, so Taylor said hi. What did
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Taylor said that he liked about
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So it's first of all, it's cool. He recognized you.
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OK, so that's the other thing. It was a oh,
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you look familiar thing. And then he asked me why
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I was there. I was like, I'm on a panel.
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I'm on this podcast.
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He's like, OK.
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And then I think he went back and then like
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Googled me. I don't think he was sure.
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Who I was.
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Right.
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And then he's like.
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I'm a big fan of yours.
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He saw your photo by the cash register and said,
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do not cash or check. Oh, that's how I know you.
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From the podcast and you're under arrest. Wait, so, okay,
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he recognizes you from the podcast.
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He's a fan. That's nice.
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He watches our videos all the time.
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Shout out to Taylor, who works at, what's it called?
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At Wazuzu at the Encore.
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What kind of food is Wazuzu?
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It's Asian fusion. It's delicious. If they want to send
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us stuff, I'm cool with that.
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No, I don't think that's very, I don't think you
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should be asking for free food. He comped you a meal,
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and I think that's enough. I don't think, I think
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now extorting Wazuzu. And by the way, I'm not sure
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Asian fusion ships well.
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Were they going to?
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Put a couple of dumplings in a FedEx tube, and
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send it through the desert to get here to Larchmont?
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That's fantastic. Hey, over the weekend, this tube showed up.
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Or maybe it was last weekend. Thanks, EB, let's crack
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it open. An armadillo comes out with soy sauce all
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over his mouth. I mean, that's insanity.
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Wazuzu, you sound like an amazing place, but please don't
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send us any food, even though I'm sure it's amazing.
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We want to come in person and then be comped.
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Do you find yourself getting comped much in life?
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That's the first time. I was really excited about it
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because I always said.
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You know, people were like, oh, you know, more and
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more people know who you are because the podcast is
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so big. And I'm like, you're not really famous until
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you get either a meal comped or you get same
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day reservations at a cool restaurant. And I got comped,
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so I'm officially an A-lister.
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That's really good. I have to say it's true.
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I'm sitting here with a real celebrity, finally.
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That's nice.
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I constantly test how we're doing by choosing very, very
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popular hard-to-get-into restaurants. And what I do is I show
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up on a Saturday night at like 7.30, and I
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just walk in and said, Conan O'Brien here, and I
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demand a table for 15. And I've always been told,
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get the fuck out of here.
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get the fuck out of here. Even when I have
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a reservation that I've had for months. And I show
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up and I go, by the way, it's that Conan O'Brien.
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They say, get the fuck out of here. And my
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family and friends all wave to me from the table
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as I'm escorted out.
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They're all seated. Oh, they're all seated.
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They still bill me. But that's the way to test.
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And I've not, I'll know the day I can walk
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in and go, yeah, table for 15, Conan O'Brien. If
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Conan O'Brien needs a friend, deal with it. Then I'm
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going to know that I've been, if I'm seated right away,
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that we finally cracked it.
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I don't think that's ever going to happen.
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I don't know what to say because I've made a
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lot of same-day reservations for you.
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It's always.
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People love to accommodate you.
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Why would you.
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Didn't you say at Din Tai Fung they wouldn't take you?
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Oh, that was my favorite.
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You remember we went to the original one in Arcadia
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and you're like, watch this, basically.
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I didn't do.
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I never say, well, okay, I think I did. I
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said we were in Arcadia to the original Din Tai Fung.
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Din Tai Fung.
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Din Tai Fung.
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And we were really hungry and I thought, well... All
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kidding aside, people are quite nice to me and they
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tend to recognize this puss.
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I'm sorry, before, it's notorious for having a very long wait,
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especially that original look.
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Regardless of the puss.
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And so I, hey, God bless them. They said, as
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nicely as possible, go away.
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I'm back in an hour and a half.
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it wasn't that long. It wasn't.
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And you know what? You gave your name.
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They didn't give you any sort of leeway on the
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wait time. I remember it made no difference.
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That it was you.
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But then you went outside and we were waiting in
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the parking lot and people kept coming up to you
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to take pictures with you.
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Oh, and my favorite part is some of them were
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from the restaurant. My favorite is when people from the
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restaurant are like, can we have a picture?
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Uh, yeah, sure. Thanks. I'm a big fan.
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Um, how long away do you fuck you?
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Oh man. Okay. Good times.
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Hey, listen, I don't think celebrities should be treated. Uh,
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especially I think we should be treated worse than other people.
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Well, I'm not, I'm not a celebrity, so I'm fine.
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If I ever come to your restaurant, you are free
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to comp me.
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I can't wait till I have a restaurant. that specializes
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in Irish food, from 1902. Do you want a tatoe
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with your tatoe? All right, we got to get into it.
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And then I got to start my restaurant. My guest
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today hosts the podcast, How Did This Get Made?
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I was on this podcast. I really loved it. Now
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he has a new memoir titled Joyful Recollections of Trauma.
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Really love this guy. I'm excited he's here today. Paul Scheer, welcome.
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I'm going to point out, Paul, and I am a
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big fan of yours and I admire you greatly. So
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for you to say that you're just sanguine. about being
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my friend is a real- Optimistic, optimistic. It's a kick
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in the crotch.
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Wow. Jesus. You see, to me, I'm coming in- It's
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a death blow, it's a death chop. Oh, oh, okay.
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I'm pressuring you, because I know your husband's a karate expert,
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but does he do judo?
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No, he does karate, he does karate.
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I'm trying to come in not too high up and
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not too low, just saying, hey, I feel cautiously optimistic.
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You don't need to explain that.
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I think that's fair. He's a psychopath.
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I am, no, excuse me, sociopath. Oh, sorry. There's a difference.
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Well, you'll get there.
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I'm an aspirational sociopath.
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I'm a sociopath.
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Who's working very hard to make it a psychopath. And
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I take night classes.
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I'm looking sanguine about your opportunities.
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Thank you.
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So many people are able to make that crossover. And
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I think it's really important.
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Very few of us have done it. Just me and
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Bill Maher. We're the only two. I'm so happy to
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be here at Club Random. I've seen....
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I saw Bill Maher do that club random, and he
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has so many tissue boxes around. I'm like, why is
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he blowing his nose so much on air?
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I'll tell you later. We'll talk later. We have a lot.
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Let's just say. It's also, why is he wearing tearaway pants,
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you know? Listen. What the fuck? He's got a. I
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don't want to talk about this anymore.
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You brought it up.
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I wish the man well. I wish the man well.
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Stories about pellet cases that will make you upset, but
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you know.
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Paul.
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Yes. And if I can call you Paul, that would
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be a great idea. Please, yeah, you can do it. Okay.
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Paul, I've always enjoyed you. And then I had a
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great experience with you. You and your cohorts had me
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on your podcast.
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Yes.
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I want to say about five years ago on How
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Did This Get Made.
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And I had an absolute blast. I believe we were
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talking about the film, Look Who's Talking 2.
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Yes, where more babies are talking.
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I think in that one, even the dogs are talking or?
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I think everything's talking. Inanimate objects, occasionally a chair will say,
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look at that baby.
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You know?
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And I think it was Danny, am I right? Is
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it Danny DeVito's? You may not remember because you guys
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do so many movies. We watch so many bad movies,
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but I believe you're right.
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I think it is Danny DeVito and like Roseanne Barr
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might have been the.
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Baby, yeah.
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And it's such a strange concept because the babies are talking,
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but they also have institutional knowledge about things that only
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adults would have.
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I wish I had a cigar right now. It's like
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you're OK. It's one thing. I'm sorry. What's the concept again?
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You've lived a full life and you're trapped in a
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baby's body. Or this is how all babies speak. That's
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what makes it so upsetting, because at one point they
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must get amnesia. Right.
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Because they while they can't speak, they're thinking all these
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horrible thoughts.
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Yes.
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Look at those boobs on that lady.
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And it's like, oh, God, you know, you know, it's like,
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give me a drink. And it's like, well, and then.
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She's a drink right now. God, I'd like to stop her.
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And you think, well, you came out of. You came
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out of the uterus, I think, eight months ago. They
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all came out. Yeah, they had this energy. And then,
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you know, I get it for the dogs. Dogs have
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been around. When the dogs start talking, they've seen some stuff.
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Dogs have seen stuff and they have a memory that
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I think is passed on almost genetically.
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Dogs have a wisdom. And when my dog looks at me,
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he knows.
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But no, the fact that a baby is like looking
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around going like, I'd like to grab that.
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And to me, for the right of a lifetime and
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to me to have a movie where you go in
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and pitch it's like, yeah, the babies are talking.
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But then there's also like this core like romance problem
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in the center of it. It is still about like
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a husband and wife, but they never interact with the
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talking babies.
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Now the babies are having their own subplot. Yeah. Not
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connected to the adults at all. Right.
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It absolutely, like the babies are on a telephone trying
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to get liquor from the liquor store. I haven't had
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a drink in eight years. How old are you? Six months.
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I think, I do think in the third one, because
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we did the third one after you, that they do
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solve a crime. The babies do solve a crime. They
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see a burglar come in and they set up a
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trap in their baby language.
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They're able to communicate. In their baby language, meaning the
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language of people in their 50s. But by the way,
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they are telepathically communicating because they're not even speaking and
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they're just looking at each other.
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Here's what it's proof of, if nothing else, that if
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this movie is the reality, and I think it is
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a very truthful scientific movie.
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It was based in a lot of science.
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I believe that we are born in our highest, most
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elevated form, and then we de-evolve as we get older
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because we can speak telepathically. We have long memories of
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a rich sexual past, even though we don't really have
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our secondary sexual characteristics yet.
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Slightly racist, slightly sexist, yeah. I do think there.
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Do you think that there is something true to the
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fact that babies can see ghosts?
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Because... I've heard a lot of these stories.
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That babies and like young children, they don't know that
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they're not supposed to believe in this stuff. And when
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I was shooting this movie in New Orleans once, Tom Lennon,
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his kid was about three years old and he went
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down to tie a shoe and he started talking to
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a person in the sewer grate. And he's like, oh,
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and then, and occasionally all throughout his time in New
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Orleans would see different people and having conversations with them.
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And New Orleans, the most haunted city in the world.
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I don't know, like, Do you think that his son
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is crazy or do you think the kids can maybe
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see ghosts?
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I think it's New Orleans and people sometimes live in
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sewer grates. Okay, so. You know, and I think there
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are other cities. I think Portland's one. I mean, I
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think there are certain cities where. Well, Portland, it's expensive
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to live in a sewer grate.
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You can get a nice sewer grate for about.
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$ 1, 500.
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I think the person in the sewer grate was complaining
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to the little boy that it was $ 2, 000.
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A month to live in a sewer grate. But it's
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right on the park. It's really nice though. It's really nice.
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I barely spent time here. I looked at so many sewers.
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I take the shower at the sports club.
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It's great.
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So that's how I sort of like first got to,
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I felt like I work with you, even though we've
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been traveling in similar circles for a very long time.
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Well, you started my career. I always say that you
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started my career. I had to get a SAG card.
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Because of working on your show was my favorite thing.
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It was and it was a great day to hang
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out in that hallway. You just sit in these chairs
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in this hallway. People come in and out and you'd
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watch weird guest stars doing sometimes weird things. I remember
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Gene Simmons being the weirdest, just trolling the hallways, trying
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to knock on different people's doors and just get in there.
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And just I do remember, though, the only bit I
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ever said no to. on your show was I got
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this call and the casting director was like, Paul, we
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have a really great bit for you. And I was like, Oh,
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can't wait. And they're like, so Conan's going to come
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into the audience and he's going to have a razor
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on him and he's going to shave you bald.
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And I was like, uh-huh. And I was like, I
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don't know. Cause I was already.
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Losing my hair at that point, but I didn't know
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if I could commit to getting my head shaved on TV.
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Do you realize they're probably pitching this to you before
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they've pitched it to me? So there's a chance, you
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know what I mean? Sometimes they were calling around and
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saying- Would you do it? Yeah, we're going to take
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a 22 caliber rifle and shoot you in the shoulder.
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And you're, how is this funny?
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Trust me.
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And Conan's a pretty good shot, so he won't hit
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a major artery. And they haven't even pitched it to
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me yet, or we'll shoot you at rehearsal and then
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cut it as you're bleeding out.
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Which is my favorite thing. It was the crazy moment,
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but I was like, oh, I want to do this bit.
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This would be really funny, but I was so nervous
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to really commit to shaving off my full head of
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hair for a bit. So I did say no, and
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I always felt badly about it. It crippled your career.
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Did anyone do it?
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Did someone go on and do it?
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Someone did it. I believe it might have been Andy Blitz.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Andy Blitz would do that even if it wasn't a sketch.
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I mean, I have such fond memories of that era
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and just so much talent around New York City. And
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all of us had this idea of what we thought
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was funny, which was quite at odds with what the
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people I was working for thought was funny, which was
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often a problem. I know that you came up with
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Jack McBrayer. I think you guys were in, were you
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in UCB together?
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Yeah, Jack and I were in a show together called
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Sheer McBrayer or Ghost Ship. And then we also were
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performing every Saturday together in a group called Respecto Montalban.
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Okay. The title's alone.
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Ghost Ship was a show where Jack and I improvised
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just two-man improv show. And every time we would reference
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the movie Ghost Ship.
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Oh.
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And that was the only thing that connected the show.
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My conceit was always that the ship was a ghost,
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and Jack believed that people were dead on the ship
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and there were ghosts on the ship.
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So, here's my, I've talked about this before, but I
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cannot say enough. I've known Jack, and I swear to God,
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I'm friends with Jack and have been friends with Jack
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for years and years and years and years and years.
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I've never had a real conversation with him because I always,
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the minute I see him go into... The A-hole... city slicker.
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Oh, yeah. And he goes into the put upon Rube.
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We'll do that for 45 minutes.
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Yeah.
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And I've often thought someday one of us is going
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to be on death's door in the hospital. Let's just
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say I go in and let's just say it's Jack
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because he doesn't take care of himself the way I do. Um,
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and I'm going to know it and Jack's going to
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know it, that these are his last, he might, he's
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probably going to go later today and he's in the
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hospital and everyone's getting a minute to just to say hi.
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I know for a fact, and I go in and say, well, well, well. Now,
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don't you be afraid about these doctor fellas. I know
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they didn't have them back home. And he's going to go, sir,
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I'm quite familiar.
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With what I.
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00:20:28.170 --> 00:20:28.539
Oh, no.
501
00:20:28.549 --> 00:20:29.150
By the way, it would.
502
00:20:30.529 --> 00:20:33.309
Be the best. We won't have a real moment. You can't.
503
00:20:33.549 --> 00:20:37.049
Jack is one of the funniest people, but that's a
504
00:20:37.089 --> 00:20:39.589
sign that he likes you. And more than likes you,
505
00:20:39.869 --> 00:20:42.569
loves you, because he won't do that with everybody. But
506
00:20:42.650 --> 00:20:44.609
you will get into bits with him that will last forever.
507
00:20:44.839 --> 00:20:48.059
for for literally years and then sometimes you don't know
508
00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:51.019
where the bit is and and where jack begins because
509
00:20:51.400 --> 00:20:53.309
as i know jack i think every day he spends
510
00:20:53.390 --> 00:20:55.529
by his pool drinking bud lights i think that's the
511
00:20:55.569 --> 00:20:58.809
only that's what i mean oh yeah that's jack also he's.
512
00:20:58.670 --> 00:21:01.069
The last person on earth who hasn't heard you're not
513
00:21:01.130 --> 00:21:03.809
supposed to lay in the sun oh yeah jack get
514
00:21:03.849 --> 00:21:04.690
a deep dark.
515
00:21:04.569 --> 00:21:06.839
Is he a big mountain dew guy too oh yeah
516
00:21:06.859 --> 00:21:10.759
yeah yeah but he pours uh bud light into it Yeah,
517
00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:13.480
Mountain Dew and Bud Light and By the Pool. Maybe
518
00:21:13.759 --> 00:21:16.720
mixing those two things together, it's like a suntan lotion
519
00:21:16.740 --> 00:21:20.920
for your inside. It pushes the cancer out. It's an
520
00:21:20.940 --> 00:21:21.700
oral sun cream.
521
00:21:21.740 --> 00:21:25.140
The cancer's like, it's too rough here. I don't need
522
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523
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Some dermatologists around the world are starting to say.
524
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You've written a book, Joyful Recollections of Trauma. Yes. First
551
00:23:20.940 --> 00:23:23.759
of all, I can't think of a better way for
552
00:23:23.859 --> 00:23:26.400
especially a comedian or someone in comedy to sum up.
553
00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:31.059
This weird line we have between there were things that
554
00:23:31.480 --> 00:23:35.480
moments in our childhood that we feel in the moment
555
00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:42.730
brought us great anxiety. fear, unhappiness, anger. And then now
556
00:23:43.009 --> 00:23:45.769
we realize, oh, it was all part.
557
00:23:45.609 --> 00:23:46.250
Of the
stew.
558
00:23:46.490 --> 00:23:49.130
It's interesting because you tell these stories that are part
559
00:23:49.170 --> 00:23:52.109
of your life and that you maybe have no spin on.
560
00:23:52.150 --> 00:23:53.670
It's like, oh, yeah, this just just happened.
561
00:23:53.730 --> 00:23:56.490
I remember I was telling my wife, I was like, oh, yeah,
562
00:23:56.509 --> 00:23:58.890
I never opened the door for strangers because my grandma
563
00:23:58.990 --> 00:24:01.960
told me about this butcher who would, you know, kill
564
00:24:01.980 --> 00:24:04.079
kids and chop them up into chopped meat.
565
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:05.819
And June would be like, my wife was like, wait,
566
00:24:05.900 --> 00:24:08.240
what do you mean? I'm like, yeah, the butcher, you know, she.
567
00:24:08.619 --> 00:24:11.539
The story all kids hear from their grandmother. And my
568
00:24:11.579 --> 00:24:12.279
grandma told me.
569
00:24:12.220 --> 00:24:14.480
The story where she's like, you know, she's like, you
570
00:24:14.519 --> 00:24:16.319
can't open the door because if you open the door,
571
00:24:16.779 --> 00:24:19.200
the butcher will come in and his steps will come
572
00:24:19.259 --> 00:24:21.619
up the stairs and he'll grab you and he'll put
573
00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:23.119
you in a sack.
574
00:24:23.180 --> 00:24:24.180
And I'm like, uh-huh.
575
00:24:24.380 --> 00:24:26.700
And she's like, it happened right around the corner. And
576
00:24:26.740 --> 00:24:29.660
then the end of the story was the mom goes
577
00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:32.509
to the butcher. She orders some chopped meat. She starts
578
00:24:32.609 --> 00:24:34.509
making the chopped meat. She's grinding it up and she
579
00:24:34.589 --> 00:24:36.009
puts it in the pan. And as she puts it
580
00:24:36.029 --> 00:24:38.789
in the pan, the chopped meat goes, Mama?
581
00:24:38.809 --> 00:24:38.869
No!
582
00:24:39.089 --> 00:24:39.170
No!
583
00:24:42.509 --> 00:24:42.589
No!
584
00:24:43.150 --> 00:24:46.309
No! That image, I mean, I know it can't exist,
585
00:24:46.390 --> 00:24:48.009
like the look who's talking babies. No, it could.
586
00:24:48.069 --> 00:24:49.750
Is your grandma a Grimm's brother?
587
00:24:50.230 --> 00:24:53.910
Yeah. That frightened me. This butcher. I was like, yeah,
588
00:24:53.930 --> 00:24:56.240
there's a butcher who lives in our neighborhood who chops
589
00:24:56.299 --> 00:24:56.740
up children.
590
00:24:56.759 --> 00:25:00.440
But also, Paul, occasionally, your grandmother should know, occasionally someone
591
00:25:00.500 --> 00:25:01.839
needs to come into the house. Yeah.
592
00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:05.700
Occasionally someone does need to come in.
593
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:09.319
Never going to let anyone in. Do not chop me up, butcher.
594
00:25:09.359 --> 00:25:10.400
You will not get me.
595
00:25:10.740 --> 00:25:15.509
Yeah. We're here to pick up the rug. Oh my God. Yeah.
596
00:25:15.589 --> 00:25:19.190
No. So you must've had, because you talk about this
597
00:25:20.009 --> 00:25:22.839
very honestly in your book, parents divorce when you're very young,
598
00:25:22.859 --> 00:25:28.710
a stepfather comes into the picture and, who's physically and
599
00:25:28.750 --> 00:25:31.710
emotionally abusive. So you're dealing with that and it's not,
600
00:25:31.950 --> 00:25:35.430
of course, none of that is funny, but you had
601
00:25:35.450 --> 00:25:38.950
a very singular childhood and then you describe later in
602
00:25:38.970 --> 00:25:41.450
your life, you're talking to your friends and you're saying,
603
00:25:41.710 --> 00:25:43.329
just as you did right now, you know when your
604
00:25:43.349 --> 00:25:45.039
grandmother tells you that if anyone comes in the house,
605
00:25:45.059 --> 00:25:46.980
they'll chop you up and then you'll become a talking
606
00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:48.059
hamburger helpmate?
607
00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:53.130
You know, no. You've had people say, no, Paul, that's
608
00:25:53.230 --> 00:25:54.970
not a normal child. Not what you do.
609
00:25:55.029 --> 00:25:57.569
I mean, like you don't like, I remember I raised
610
00:25:57.769 --> 00:26:01.150
money to go into the city to go see a
611
00:26:01.210 --> 00:26:03.359
naked woman. That was the only job that I was like,
612
00:26:03.380 --> 00:26:05.880
I'm like, we, like we, we heard about naked women.
613
00:26:05.900 --> 00:26:08.200
We were like, we didn't have any access to naked women,
614
00:26:08.220 --> 00:26:09.900
but we were close to the city. And me and
615
00:26:09.920 --> 00:26:12.680
my friends were like, let's go get some money. We'll
616
00:26:12.740 --> 00:26:15.720
go into the city and we'll, we'll find it. We just,
617
00:26:16.420 --> 00:26:19.130
I think we were like, freshmen in high school. Like,
618
00:26:19.150 --> 00:26:21.109
you know, so we were a little, yeah, I went
619
00:26:21.130 --> 00:26:23.789
to a Catholic school. They didn't really talk about sex.
620
00:26:23.829 --> 00:26:25.809
It was very, you know, it's not discussed.
621
00:26:25.910 --> 00:26:26.430
No, it's not.
622
00:26:26.630 --> 00:26:29.569
I mean, the craziest thing is my health class was
623
00:26:29.730 --> 00:26:33.130
taught by my phys ed instructor, which is I think
624
00:26:33.150 --> 00:26:35.470
a normal thing. And there was a very shy girl
625
00:26:35.509 --> 00:26:38.670
in our class, lovely girl. And she got up to
626
00:26:38.690 --> 00:26:40.670
go to the bathroom and the gym teacher was like,
627
00:26:41.230 --> 00:26:42.509
I got it. I got a good plan. I got
628
00:26:42.529 --> 00:26:44.430
a good plan here. And so she gets up and
629
00:26:44.450 --> 00:26:48.200
he takes this dildo out of his desk now i
630
00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:51.019
have never again at this point seen this you.
631
00:26:50.940 --> 00:26:53.240
Just think it's a rubber cucumber i'm like what i
632
00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:54.579
mean i'm.
633
00:26:54.259 --> 00:26:55.910
Shocked because it's
like all right so and he goes
634
00:26:55.930 --> 00:26:58.450
all right all right and he shoves it in her
635
00:26:58.569 --> 00:27:02.549
lunch bag and we and we're all waiting there and
636
00:27:02.589 --> 00:27:05.470
he's okay she's coming back she's coming back everybody calm
637
00:27:05.509 --> 00:27:08.130
down and so we're all sitting there waiting in this
638
00:27:08.650 --> 00:27:11.880
very sweet girl very shy very nice you know starts
639
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:13.539
to take out her sandwich and he.
640
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:17.500
Goes hey you Stephanie, what the hell? And he rips
641
00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:19.849
out this dildo. And he's like, what is this doing
642
00:27:19.869 --> 00:27:21.529
in your bag? And he starts.
643
00:27:21.710 --> 00:27:24.509
Waving it in the air. And then the entire class,
644
00:27:24.529 --> 00:27:27.190
it's like a Carrie moment. The entire class starts laughing.
645
00:27:27.730 --> 00:27:29.869
And you're like, and that way, you know, and we're like,
646
00:27:29.910 --> 00:27:31.210
and he's like, I just gotcha.
647
00:27:31.230 --> 00:27:33.329
I gotcha. This is not real. No, no, I didn't
648
00:27:33.349 --> 00:27:38.259
just getcha. Oh my God. That's your person. Yeah. We
649
00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:40.849
need names now. We need to go back. We need
650
00:27:40.869 --> 00:27:42.990
to find this guy. Yeah. And this is like and
651
00:27:43.029 --> 00:27:45.809
that was a story that I like. I like again.
652
00:27:45.829 --> 00:27:47.849
I was like, oh, yeah, that that's as close as
653
00:27:47.910 --> 00:27:51.529
I got to understanding anything about sex in school. Like
654
00:27:51.569 --> 00:27:54.250
seeing that dildo shoved in that girl's lunch.
655
00:27:54.309 --> 00:27:55.390
And her humiliated.
656
00:27:55.430 --> 00:27:55.599
Yeah.
657
00:27:55.710 --> 00:27:57.539
And you're like, oh, I guess that's what sex is. Yeah,
658
00:27:57.579 --> 00:28:00.980
this is this is about all the details I have. Oh,
659
00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:02.339
that's horrible. Jesus Christ.
660
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:06.259
But I mean, you know, you, you, you, as a kid,
661
00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:11.980
you get very interested in obsessed with making tapes of things.
662
00:28:12.380 --> 00:28:14.220
Oh yeah. You want to, you want to record everything
663
00:28:14.269 --> 00:28:17.130
and make tapes to the extent that you made your
664
00:28:17.269 --> 00:28:18.950
own video store pretty much.
665
00:28:19.009 --> 00:28:19.210
Yeah.
666
00:28:19.349 --> 00:28:19.930
I made my own.
667
00:28:20.049 --> 00:28:23.109
I loved VHS movies and I wanted to like, that
668
00:28:23.150 --> 00:28:26.049
was to me, the dream to own my own video
669
00:28:26.069 --> 00:28:27.779
store felt like that was You.
670
00:28:27.740 --> 00:28:29.500
Can't get any better than that. You have all these
671
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:31.609
things at your disposal. It's funny.
672
00:28:32.210 --> 00:28:33.690
That was your dream job. When I was a kid,
673
00:28:33.710 --> 00:28:36.930
I remember seeing a toll booth operator. My parents driving through.
674
00:28:36.950 --> 00:28:39.390
We were going through the Sumner Tunnel or coming out
675
00:28:39.430 --> 00:28:41.630
of it in Boston. And we went through a toll booth.
676
00:28:41.690 --> 00:28:43.339
And I remember thinking, that's the life.
677
00:28:44.130 --> 00:28:46.200
I looked at a guy standing in a booth and
678
00:28:46.220 --> 00:28:47.519
I just thought that would be cool.
679
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:48.019
Yeah.
680
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.630
Because there's no homework. and no one to boss you around.
681
00:28:51.650 --> 00:28:54.089
And you just, and it's a pretty simple job. And
682
00:28:54.109 --> 00:28:56.619
then you get to go home and watch cartoons. And
683
00:28:56.650 --> 00:28:59.059
I remember thinking, but so yours was video store owner.
684
00:28:59.099 --> 00:29:03.019
Mine was toll booth operator on route 128 in Boston.
685
00:29:03.079 --> 00:29:05.460
But those moments, it's like, you'd get connected. I was like,
686
00:29:05.700 --> 00:29:07.740
I could get never ending story. I'd be on the
687
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:09.519
top of the list. Cause back in the day, when
688
00:29:09.539 --> 00:29:10.900
you wanted to get a video, you'd have to put
689
00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:13.180
your name on a list. And then they call you like,
690
00:29:13.220 --> 00:29:14.980
all right, you know, never ending stories.
691
00:29:15.059 --> 00:29:16.400
And you can come in and get it, but come,
692
00:29:16.480 --> 00:29:18.420
but if you don't come before five, next person on
693
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:20.690
the list is getting called. And so I was obsessed
694
00:29:20.710 --> 00:29:23.569
with doing this. It's like being an organ donor. Except
695
00:29:23.589 --> 00:29:26.640
the stakes are so much. They bring you, you've been
696
00:29:26.660 --> 00:29:29.720
approved for Neverending Story. It's coming to you in a cooler.
697
00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:32.259
Just drop what we're doing.
698
00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:34.529
You've got an hour to accept. We've got to see
699
00:29:34.549 --> 00:29:38.049
that kid fly on that dog. But then it became
700
00:29:38.089 --> 00:29:41.440
this thing where I started having these movies and people
701
00:29:41.529 --> 00:29:43.369
found out about it. And I would run a video
702
00:29:43.390 --> 00:29:45.829
store out of my high school where.
703
00:29:45.690 --> 00:29:48.569
Teachers would be like, Hey, uh, yeah, Ferris Bueller. Can
704
00:29:48.609 --> 00:29:50.490
I borrow Ferris Bueller? I was like, all right, you
705
00:29:50.509 --> 00:29:50.950
can borrow.
706
00:29:50.970 --> 00:29:53.609
Like teachers were holding me back in class for me
707
00:29:53.650 --> 00:29:58.220
to pass them VHS tapes. And I felt like All right,
708
00:29:58.259 --> 00:30:01.200
this is my thing now. Also, I love, Paul, the
709
00:30:01.259 --> 00:30:03.259
idea that you
thought, and this will never end.
710
00:30:03.460 --> 00:30:06.519
Yeah. This is it. People are always going to need-
711
00:30:06.539 --> 00:30:08.829
The job, the medium, nothing.
712
00:30:08.940 --> 00:30:09.740
It's gold.
713
00:30:11.329 --> 00:30:13.569
I know how to put things on VHS, and if
714
00:30:13.609 --> 00:30:15.529
you want them, there's no other way to see them.
715
00:30:16.750 --> 00:30:18.630
But it was like for this little bit of time,
716
00:30:18.650 --> 00:30:21.410
like working at Blockbuster, it was the best. You were like,
717
00:30:21.769 --> 00:30:23.700
this is it. Right.
718
00:30:24.789 --> 00:30:28.609
We ran a fake autograph signing at my Blockbuster because
719
00:30:28.630 --> 00:30:31.470
there's a girl that just looked like Jamie Girtz. And
720
00:30:31.529 --> 00:30:37.700
we decided that we were like, hey, can you call
721
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:39.819
your friend and have her come in? We'll set up
722
00:30:39.859 --> 00:30:42.250
a table and we'll make her sign a poster. And
723
00:30:42.269 --> 00:30:44.349
then we realized there was no Jamie Girtz movies there.
724
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:46.259
but there was an Ally Sheedy movie that we had
725
00:30:46.319 --> 00:30:50.470
a poster for. And so- Everything is, everything is wrong.
726
00:30:50.490 --> 00:30:55.509
It's a fake Jamie Girtz signing Ally Sheedy's autograph.
727
00:30:56.890 --> 00:31:00.190
Everything's wrong. We just like set up an autograph, like
728
00:31:00.250 --> 00:31:02.869
meet Ally, you know, like meet Jamie Girtz and be like,
729
00:31:03.230 --> 00:31:06.839
who's Jamie Girtz? From Lost Boys. And we hung up
730
00:31:06.900 --> 00:31:11.220
this poster in our blockbuster that said Jamie Girtz on
731
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:14.299
an Ally Sheedy movie poster saying, in the front window
732
00:31:14.420 --> 00:31:16.809
for months. And how did it go over? Did people
733
00:31:16.849 --> 00:31:19.150
get excited? People were excited. People have pictures of it.
734
00:31:19.299 --> 00:31:21.829
People have sent me pictures of it Because I talked
735
00:31:21.869 --> 00:31:24.019
about it one time on the podcast. People have pictures
736
00:31:24.059 --> 00:31:26.980
with fake Jamie Girtz. And fake Jamie Girtz reached out
737
00:31:27.000 --> 00:31:28.519
to me and she said, yeah, it was a highlight.
738
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:31.059
And she's being.
739
00:31:30.140 --> 00:31:33.359
Sued by fake Ally Sheedy. Who's being sued by real
740
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:33.859
Ally Sheedy.
741
00:31:33.900 --> 00:31:36.299
It's a very complicated lawsuit, but one of them is
742
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:37.559
going to get to own the Atlanta Hawks.
743
00:31:38.539 --> 00:31:42.640
You have a part of your very cool book that
744
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:46.630
is dedicated to awkward celebrity encounters, which I'd love to
745
00:31:46.670 --> 00:31:49.049
go into a little bit just because They are my
746
00:31:49.130 --> 00:31:51.630
favorite moments in my life. You go in with the
747
00:31:51.710 --> 00:31:52.369
best intentions.
748
00:31:52.390 --> 00:31:55.069
My new thing is like, I, I will not now
749
00:31:55.150 --> 00:31:57.369
approach anybody because it's, it's too nerve wracking.
750
00:31:57.410 --> 00:31:59.910
I'd rather just stand back. I mean, who did you have?
751
00:32:00.430 --> 00:32:02.210
Like, is there anyone that comes to mind where you
752
00:32:02.230 --> 00:32:03.839
feel like you messed up the encounter?
753
00:32:03.859 --> 00:32:06.789
Uh, well, there's one I've talked about before, but definitely I,
754
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:09.980
and I, and it was the truncated version was just,
755
00:32:10.299 --> 00:32:11.319
I hadn't had coffee yet.
756
00:32:11.339 --> 00:32:12.720
It was really early in the morning and I go
757
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:13.400
into this coffee.
758
00:32:13.220 --> 00:32:16.539
Shop on the Upper East Side. And I get mine
759
00:32:16.579 --> 00:32:17.920
and I sit down. I'm just about to have it
760
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:19.960
when I see that the person in line who's standing
761
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:22.589
shoulder to shoulder with me, I'm sitting having my coffee
762
00:32:22.619 --> 00:32:25.690
on a tall stool and he's right there, is Arnold Schwarzenegger.
763
00:32:25.809 --> 00:32:29.029
And it was just this great moment because he recognized
764
00:32:29.089 --> 00:32:31.910
me and wanted to say hi, but had nothing to say.
765
00:32:31.930 --> 00:32:35.009
And he hasn't had his coffee and I just got
766
00:32:35.069 --> 00:32:37.839
my coffee and it's early and it literally just became.
767
00:32:38.390 --> 00:32:39.470
coffee huh.
768
00:32:41.230 --> 00:32:43.960
And i was like uh yes no i'm having it's
769
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:46.579
good it's good in the morning and i went yes
770
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:49.880
it's good in the morning it's really it's good in
771
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:51.539
the morning to have and then there was a long
772
00:32:51.579 --> 00:32:53.940
pause he went to have the coffee and i went
773
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:56.269
yes and then there was a long pause and he
774
00:32:56.289 --> 00:33:02.250
went it wakes you up And I said, yes, because of,
775
00:33:03.109 --> 00:33:05.130
and there was a long pause. He's like, the caffeine.
776
00:33:05.710 --> 00:33:08.269
And I'm like, oh my God, this is awful.
777
00:33:08.430 --> 00:33:09.369
This is awful.
778
00:33:09.529 --> 00:33:13.119
And yet, I mean, this is, he is the most iconic,
779
00:33:13.140 --> 00:33:15.440
one of the most iconic people in the world.
780
00:33:15.779 --> 00:33:20.759
And this is what we're talking about. Oh my God.
781
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:24.069
It's like, you're trying to make this connection. It's like,
782
00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:26.289
I want to be, I just want to like be
783
00:33:26.309 --> 00:33:28.150
normal or just say hi, or I want to get in.
784
00:33:28.190 --> 00:33:28.930
I want to get out.
785
00:33:29.170 --> 00:33:31.309
And I did this movie and there was a guy
786
00:33:31.349 --> 00:33:32.809
in this movie that I would hang out with all
787
00:33:32.829 --> 00:33:33.109
the time.
788
00:33:33.150 --> 00:33:35.890
And he's like, Oh, you know, RDJ. And I'm like, Oh,
789
00:33:36.170 --> 00:33:39.210
who's RDJ? He's like, Robert Downey Jr. RDJ. And I'm like,
790
00:33:39.470 --> 00:33:41.230
Oh no, no, I don't know him. He's like, we're,
791
00:33:41.390 --> 00:33:43.329
we're buds. We're buds. And I'm like, all right, great.
792
00:33:43.349 --> 00:33:46.069
And he, and every day told me about RDJ. And like,
793
00:33:46.109 --> 00:33:47.539
at first it was like, is this guy full shit?
794
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:48.970
And then I would, I knew a couple of people
795
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:51.869
in his orbit, RDJ's orbit. And I was like, You
796
00:33:51.910 --> 00:33:54.190
know this person? He's like, oh, yeah, that guy's great.
797
00:33:54.450 --> 00:33:55.329
So it sounds legitimate.
798
00:33:55.349 --> 00:33:57.190
This is a guy you're getting to know who knows
799
00:33:57.250 --> 00:33:58.069
Robert Downey Jr.
800
00:33:58.269 --> 00:34:01.769
And now I'm like, OK, this guy knows RDJ. So
801
00:34:01.869 --> 00:34:05.970
Comic-Con comes up and he goes, hey, if you're in Comic-Con,
802
00:34:06.250 --> 00:34:07.390
say hey to RDJ for me.
803
00:34:07.710 --> 00:34:10.230
And I'm like, well, that's never going to happen. But sure. Great. Yeah,
804
00:34:10.269 --> 00:34:10.730
I'll say hi.
805
00:34:11.789 --> 00:34:14.769
And so lo and behold, I get in this place
806
00:34:14.909 --> 00:34:16.769
where I'm on the way to go to an elevator
807
00:34:16.909 --> 00:34:20.150
and I'm stacked up against Robert Downey Jr. And he's
808
00:34:20.230 --> 00:34:22.260
dressed like a Tony Stark because he's going out there
809
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:24.579
to promote Iron Man 2. And now my wife is
810
00:34:24.619 --> 00:34:27.260
with me. My wife was in Zodiac with Robert Downey Jr.
811
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:29.159
She's at my side. And I don't know what comes
812
00:34:29.219 --> 00:34:32.119
over me, but I'm like, hey, RDJ. I don't know
813
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:35.050
why I called him RDJ. Oh, no.
814
00:34:35.150 --> 00:34:35.349
Right?
815
00:34:36.340 --> 00:34:38.360
But I've been hearing it every day, RDJ. Oh, no.
816
00:34:38.539 --> 00:34:40.320
And I'm like.
817
00:34:40.539 --> 00:34:41.619
Oh, no.
818
00:34:41.900 --> 00:34:44.340
And at RDJ, as soon as I say that, my wife,
819
00:34:44.659 --> 00:34:46.519
who's been holding my hand, just lets go.
820
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:53.480
Like a parachute. She's like... I disassociate. Disappears. Ejects. Like,
821
00:34:53.699 --> 00:34:58.280
just ejects. And I feel that. And now I'm like...
822
00:34:58.139 --> 00:34:59.860
And he turns and he looks at me. I'm like, hey, I.
823
00:35:00.820 --> 00:35:02.619
I know, and I won't reveal this guy's name. I go,
824
00:35:02.659 --> 00:35:05.059
I know so-and-so. And he looks at me like I
825
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:06.510
just spoke an alien language.
826
00:35:06.530 --> 00:35:09.349
I go, what? I go, I know, you know, it's so-and-so.
827
00:35:09.489 --> 00:35:10.309
I know Sam Chiswell.
828
00:35:10.349 --> 00:35:10.750
Yeah, right.
829
00:35:10.769 --> 00:35:15.409
And he's like, oh, and again, nothing's happening. And so
830
00:35:15.530 --> 00:35:17.880
I'm getting nervous. I start giving more examples. Like, You know,
831
00:35:17.980 --> 00:35:20.440
he's got these tattoos. He did this one thing.
832
00:35:20.659 --> 00:35:22.460
He did this. And he's just looking at me. And
833
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.090
now it's bodyguard's turn. Like, and now I feel... And
834
00:35:25.110 --> 00:35:28.210
these bodyguards are huge. Like, their necks are bigger than
835
00:35:28.250 --> 00:35:30.150
my thighs. You know, and I'm just.
836
00:35:30.309 --> 00:35:32.639
And every part of my body is, like, sweating. And
837
00:35:32.659 --> 00:35:35.360
I'm just trying to prove, like, I'm not crazy... I know,
838
00:35:35.380 --> 00:35:36.619
somebody told me, I know you.
839
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:40.300
Now you're like a gambler who's losing big at the table,
840
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.900
but you can't leave. You gotta keep throwing in. And
841
00:35:43.940 --> 00:35:45.019
I'm like, I didn't even want to be here in
842
00:35:45.059 --> 00:35:46.300
the first place, but I know this guy.
843
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:49.369
He knows me. And he goes, hey man, I don't
844
00:35:49.389 --> 00:35:53.130
know who you're talking about. And I'm like, right. And
845
00:35:53.150 --> 00:35:54.150
I don't know what to do.
846
00:35:54.230 --> 00:35:57.050
So I say like, I'm sorry, I must've gotten you
847
00:35:57.250 --> 00:35:59.230
confused with somebody else.
848
00:36:00.230 --> 00:36:00.449
Oh no!
849
00:36:01.269 --> 00:36:04.170
And after I said RDJ, and then under my breath,
850
00:36:04.210 --> 00:36:07.210
I go, Robert Downey Sr.? What?
851
00:36:07.949 --> 00:36:08.250
What?
852
00:36:08.329 --> 00:36:10.650
Because I'm like, in my mind, I'm like, I don't,
853
00:36:10.989 --> 00:36:12.940
I'm floundering and I'm trying to keep it.
854
00:36:13.130 --> 00:36:16.900
And I said, Robert Downey Sr. Like, maybe it was
855
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:17.679
your dad?
856
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:19.739
Yeah, because you know how we all get you two
857
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:23.940
mixed up. Hey, was Robert Downey Sr. Iron Man or
858
00:36:24.019 --> 00:36:28.099
Robert Downey Jr.? A man that I couldn't recognize.
859
00:36:28.500 --> 00:36:31.869
And then, thank God that elevator came. And I just,
860
00:36:31.969 --> 00:36:33.639
I ran, I ran out of, I was like, I'm
861
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:35.300
not getting on. I couldn't get on that elevator. I
862
00:36:35.340 --> 00:36:37.860
couldn't do it. And that has lived with me, this awkwardness.
863
00:36:37.940 --> 00:36:39.679
And I
look over at June and she's like, what
864
00:36:39.699 --> 00:36:42.960
were you doing? And years later, I had a friend
865
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:44.940
who was on Avengers and they were like, come, come
866
00:36:44.980 --> 00:36:48.420
to set. I go, I go to set and I'm like,
867
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:50.800
it's fun having fun. And then Robert Downey Jr. walks
868
00:36:50.860 --> 00:36:52.980
on set and I swear to God, he made eye
869
00:36:53.019 --> 00:36:55.489
contact with me. And I felt like every moment just
870
00:36:55.550 --> 00:36:57.769
came back. Like, he's like, I remember you, you're insane.
871
00:36:58.210 --> 00:37:00.670
And I was like, and I literally was like, peace.
872
00:37:00.869 --> 00:37:02.329
Got to get out of here. I left. I left
873
00:37:02.409 --> 00:37:04.230
the set of like, it was like the coolest set
874
00:37:04.250 --> 00:37:07.030
I've ever been on. It was amazing. Big, giant action scene.
875
00:37:07.050 --> 00:37:09.349
And I'm like, see you later. Bye. Gotta go. Gotta go.
876
00:37:09.610 --> 00:37:10.969
Can't be here. It's too awkward for me.
877
00:37:11.250 --> 00:37:13.550
Here's the one difference between us because it gets really bad.
878
00:37:13.570 --> 00:37:16.469
It gets really bad. And then the guys, the security
879
00:37:16.489 --> 00:37:19.380
is looking at you. And you know how I'm fascinated
880
00:37:19.409 --> 00:37:21.659
with how I could make a bad thing worse. It's
881
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:23.860
just my favorite thing to think about. And so I'm
882
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:25.619
just obsessed with the idea that he says, hey, man.
883
00:37:26.130 --> 00:37:27.929
I don't know who you're talking about, that I would
884
00:37:27.989 --> 00:37:30.659
reach out and grab his wrist and say, you will
885
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:35.460
acknowledge me before this elevator door opens or else.
886
00:37:37.059 --> 00:37:41.260
Like, what can I do in this situation to- You're done. No,
887
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:43.059
and then I would just, I would have to, I
888
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:45.199
would have to, I would have to- Even with those
889
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:46.460
bodyguards there? Yeah.
890
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:49.809
Oh, because if they came forward, you know, if they
891
00:37:49.829 --> 00:37:51.869
started to come forward, I'd say, you don't want to
892
00:37:51.909 --> 00:37:54.829
mess with me You have no idea what I'm capable.
893
00:37:54.869 --> 00:37:59.849
I would keep doubling down. And I'd say I have
894
00:37:59.889 --> 00:38:02.610
a razor in my shoe. I would keep saying things
895
00:38:02.650 --> 00:38:05.929
that up the ante more and more to try and
896
00:38:06.030 --> 00:38:07.789
make it, because the only way to make it better
897
00:38:07.809 --> 00:38:09.010
is to make it so much worse.
898
00:38:09.030 --> 00:38:12.449
Just keep on pushing it over the limit. Mr.
899
00:38:12.489 --> 00:38:16.130
Downey's coming with me. You'll get a call. from an
900
00:38:16.250 --> 00:38:19.489
undisclosed location. And he will admit over the phone that
901
00:38:19.530 --> 00:38:21.789
he does know that guy I'm talking about.
902
00:38:22.590 --> 00:38:24.570
And none of you are going to do jack shit
903
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:27.559
about it. I'm going to kidnap him, bring him to
904
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:29.260
this man, show him.
905
00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:31.519
Did you ever tell your friend?
906
00:38:31.539 --> 00:38:33.460
I was just going to ask that same question.
907
00:38:33.659 --> 00:38:36.840
So I wimped out again because I didn't know what,
908
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:39.739
so the movie had wrapped at that point. So I
909
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:41.900
finally see him years later and I'm like, Should I
910
00:38:41.900 --> 00:38:42.159
do it?
911
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:43.699
Should I do it? And Jim's like, don't. What are
912
00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:46.119
you going to get out of this? He's going to say, oh,
913
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:48.429
he must. And I and it was right. He was
914
00:38:48.489 --> 00:38:51.010
right in my sights to be like, you screwed me over.
915
00:38:51.030 --> 00:38:53.269
You don't know Robert Downey Jr. And I didn't I
916
00:38:53.309 --> 00:38:55.190
didn't do anything. I walked away from it because.
917
00:38:55.210 --> 00:38:56.489
Yeah. What are you going to get out of it?
918
00:38:56.530 --> 00:38:58.510
There's no there's no fun of it. It's like, yeah,
919
00:38:58.530 --> 00:39:00.280
at that point, it's like he was like, oh, he
920
00:39:00.300 --> 00:39:02.440
must have gotten confused. I gave him too many specifics
921
00:39:02.460 --> 00:39:04.119
to get confused. I don't know what happened.
922
00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:07.519
Can I ask you about the Christopher Walken? Oh, yeah.
923
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.460
Cause that's, uh, I mean, first of all, he's the
924
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:12.760
character that he just continues to fascinate.
925
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:14.199
And I'm just, I gotta know.
926
00:39:14.619 --> 00:39:17.909
So when I first came out to LA, just with
927
00:39:17.949 --> 00:39:19.309
my dad on like a trip together.
928
00:39:19.590 --> 00:39:21.050
We did this. How old are you at this point?
929
00:39:21.070 --> 00:39:22.590
You're like probably like fifth grade. Yeah.
930
00:39:22.769 --> 00:39:22.889
Right.
931
00:39:22.909 --> 00:39:25.090
We were, we, uh, we go on this thing called
932
00:39:25.150 --> 00:39:27.909
Hollywood on location. You go to this little place, you
933
00:39:27.929 --> 00:39:31.559
pay 75 bucks and they give you. the locations of
934
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:34.550
everything shooting in LA that day and the stars that
935
00:39:34.570 --> 00:39:34.860
are in it.
936
00:39:34.929 --> 00:39:36.429
And I was like, this is the best thing. So
937
00:39:36.449 --> 00:39:37.610
you could just drive to set the set.
938
00:39:37.630 --> 00:39:39.230
We went to the set of Simon to Simon and
939
00:39:39.289 --> 00:39:41.280
highway to heaven and You know, like Michael.
940
00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:44.019
Man, you are dating yourself. Oh yeah, 100%.
941
00:39:44.019 --> 00:39:44.800
I mean, this is.
942
00:39:44.980 --> 00:39:48.940
We're on the set of Simon and Simon.
943
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:53.059
This name will endure throughout the memories of the great
944
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:54.119
low of Hollywood.
945
00:39:54.860 --> 00:39:59.849
I met Hawk from Spencer. No. And so we're kind
946
00:39:59.889 --> 00:40:00.690
of doing our whole day.
947
00:40:00.730 --> 00:40:02.690
We're, we're through the whole thing. We're meeting all these
948
00:40:03.150 --> 00:40:04.989
people that I'm, I'm having the best time. It's like,
949
00:40:05.010 --> 00:40:07.329
I've never seen a celebrity, met a celebrity.
950
00:40:07.590 --> 00:40:09.110
And as a kid, this was like, this was my
951
00:40:09.150 --> 00:40:09.719
holy grail.
952
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:10.050
Yeah.
953
00:40:10.260 --> 00:40:11.840
And so the last place we go is this movie
954
00:40:11.900 --> 00:40:14.239
is shooting. It's called communion. And I'm like, I don't
955
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:15.760
know if there's like a religious movie. I don't want
956
00:40:15.780 --> 00:40:17.940
to go to this. And we hang around and nothing's
957
00:40:17.980 --> 00:40:21.599
going on. And the security guard approaches and he's like, uh, you, uh,
958
00:40:21.780 --> 00:40:23.719
you want to meet a movie star? And I was like, Yeah,
959
00:40:23.820 --> 00:40:25.730
I'd love to meet a movie star. He's like, Christopher
960
00:40:25.769 --> 00:40:28.369
Walken is right in there. Now, I don't know Christopher
961
00:40:28.409 --> 00:40:30.550
Walken because I'm a kid. And I say to my dad,
962
00:40:30.570 --> 00:40:31.809
I'm like, who's that? And he's like, you know, from
963
00:40:31.829 --> 00:40:33.969
View to a Kill, it's James Bond. It's a villain
964
00:40:33.989 --> 00:40:35.570
from James Bond. I'm like, oh, yeah, I want to
965
00:40:35.590 --> 00:40:36.329
meet Max Zorin.
966
00:40:36.650 --> 00:40:41.849
There you go. Calm down, Matt. We covered that. How
967
00:40:41.869 --> 00:40:45.250
did this get made? Matt, you're lactating right now. I
968
00:40:45.269 --> 00:40:46.869
was so excited. You're male lactating.
969
00:40:47.429 --> 00:40:51.309
So the bodyguard or the security guard leaves and he
970
00:40:51.349 --> 00:40:53.739
comes back and goes, all right, Chris wants to meet you,
971
00:40:54.090 --> 00:40:56.119
but no cameras, no parents.
972
00:40:57.400 --> 00:40:59.940
And so my dad was like, what do you want
973
00:40:59.960 --> 00:41:01.000
to do? And I was like, I want to go
974
00:41:01.019 --> 00:41:02.619
meet Christopher Walken. Here, take this.
975
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:07.780
And the security guard walks me across the street and
976
00:41:07.940 --> 00:41:10.599
opens this big warehouse door. And the warehouse is just
977
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:14.230
completely dark and
ushers me to go in. I walk
978
00:41:14.449 --> 00:41:17.070
in and he closes the door behind me. So now
979
00:41:17.289 --> 00:41:20.289
I'm alone in a dark warehouse with like a sliver
980
00:41:20.309 --> 00:41:22.710
of light from where the door was. And I'm standing
981
00:41:22.730 --> 00:41:26.170
there and I don't still really know Christopher Walken. And
982
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:29.940
from out of the darkness comes this face. And this
983
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:34.050
movie Communion is about a man who communes with aliens.
984
00:41:34.159 --> 00:41:35.489
And I guess this is a part in the movie
985
00:41:35.510 --> 00:41:38.110
where he is really in it with the aliens because
986
00:41:38.489 --> 00:41:41.349
he's pasty white. His hair is all slicked back. And
987
00:41:41.369 --> 00:41:43.949
I swear to God, he's wearing these insane contact lenses.
988
00:41:43.989 --> 00:41:47.070
Oh my God. And he comes. So his face looms
989
00:41:47.110 --> 00:41:47.809
out of the darkness.
990
00:41:48.190 --> 00:41:49.769
It's like, it's like you're at the bottom of the
991
00:41:49.849 --> 00:41:51.630
sea and you know, where you can only see inches
992
00:41:51.690 --> 00:41:54.530
ahead of you. And then a creature just comes out
993
00:41:54.570 --> 00:41:55.190
of the mist.
994
00:41:55.349 --> 00:41:58.170
And he's like, you know, and forgive this terrible impression.
995
00:41:58.210 --> 00:41:59.210
Cause he's like.
996
00:41:59.329 --> 00:42:00.150
Hello, little man.
997
00:42:00.469 --> 00:42:02.070
And I was like, I was like, and I'm like,
998
00:42:02.130 --> 00:42:04.150
I'm seeing this guy. And I'm like, and I don't
999
00:42:04.170 --> 00:42:07.050
know what to do. And he gets down on his
1000
00:42:07.130 --> 00:42:09.530
knees to get like an eye, you know, and he's like,
1001
00:42:10.010 --> 00:42:13.960
talking to me. And, um, and you know, and I've never,
1002
00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:16.579
and again, celebrity is all new to me. And I
1003
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:18.760
have like in my autograph book in my hand, which
1004
00:42:18.820 --> 00:42:20.059
is not even an autograph book.
1005
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:20.980
My dad's a pharmacist.
1006
00:42:21.019 --> 00:42:23.119
And it was like, uh, like a pad with like,
1007
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:25.639
like drugs on it. Like it was literally, I still
1008
00:42:25.659 --> 00:42:28.139
have it. A Vicodin. It says like Vicodin on the top.
1009
00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:29.099
I'm like, can you sign this?
1010
00:42:29.579 --> 00:42:32.599
And it just says, it says Jamie Girtz on it
1011
00:42:32.599 --> 00:42:36.429
10 times in a child scrawl.
1012
00:42:36.449 --> 00:42:41.829
You know, So he's signing this thing and he goes,
1013
00:42:41.849 --> 00:42:44.110
you know, we're making a movie about aliens. Do you
1014
00:42:44.130 --> 00:42:47.280
believe in aliens? And I go, yeah. And he goes, yeah,
1015
00:42:47.510 --> 00:42:50.159
pretty interesting stuff. And I'm like, okay.
1016
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:54.260
And then he grabs me by both shoulders and pulls
1017
00:42:54.300 --> 00:42:56.260
me in. Now we're like, he's again on his knees.
1018
00:42:56.340 --> 00:42:57.519
So we're eye to eye.
1019
00:42:57.539 --> 00:43:00.909
He goes, don't let anyone tell you what you can
1020
00:43:00.929 --> 00:43:03.760
or cannot do. Whoa. And then.
1021
00:43:04.019 --> 00:43:06.199
Also, don't let anyone grab you by the shoulders when
1022
00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:08.480
you're in fifth grade in a dark warehouse.
1023
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:09.219
Yeah.
1024
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:12.869
After that person, after that stranger has insisted, no parents
1025
00:43:12.949 --> 00:43:14.349
may be present.
1026
00:43:14.829 --> 00:43:19.030
No parents, no cameras. No cameras, no parents. Now send
1027
00:43:19.050 --> 00:43:22.809
the boy and I can grab. And then just sent
1028
00:43:22.869 --> 00:43:26.260
me on my way. And I have this random Christopher
1029
00:43:26.300 --> 00:43:27.119
Walken autograph.
1030
00:43:27.260 --> 00:43:29.000
And oh, and that's the other thing, too. When I
1031
00:43:29.039 --> 00:43:31.019
got in there and he first introduces himself to me,
1032
00:43:31.019 --> 00:43:31.199
he goes.
1033
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:33.909
The light. It hurts my eyes. And I was like,
1034
00:43:33.929 --> 00:43:36.559
all right. It was really like, I was like, great.
1035
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:37.400
Holy shit.
1036
00:43:37.980 --> 00:43:41.239
It's really... Oh, my God. And he's so.
1037
00:43:41.380 --> 00:43:43.980
I just love that he had some advice to impart
1038
00:43:44.059 --> 00:43:45.400
on me, and he gave me some good advice.
1039
00:43:45.440 --> 00:43:45.679
Yeah.
1040
00:43:45.980 --> 00:43:49.480
And in the actual... When you examine the story, he's
1041
00:43:49.539 --> 00:43:51.920
being a really nice man. Yes. That should be made
1042
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:55.070
very clear. Yes. So he's in a dark warehouse.
1043
00:43:55.389 --> 00:43:55.650
Yeah.
1044
00:43:55.710 --> 00:43:57.610
And he's requested that a child be sent in. These
1045
00:43:57.670 --> 00:43:59.659
are things that... He could.
1046
00:43:59.500 --> 00:44:02.079
Give that advice with the parent present too.
1047
00:44:02.099 --> 00:44:04.559
Or the camera. Holding a camera. No, listen.
1048
00:44:04.579 --> 00:44:06.340
That could have been totally fine.
1049
00:44:06.579 --> 00:44:09.860
I have the same rules. Sona, you know working for
1050
00:44:09.900 --> 00:44:11.579
me that I've often said over the years.
1051
00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:19.190
Send the child in. Send parents. No cameras, no parents.
1052
00:44:19.250 --> 00:44:22.210
No problem. Sona, have you rented the dark warehouse?
1053
00:44:22.269 --> 00:44:23.380
It also, it.
1054
00:44:23.409 --> 00:44:28.889
I know, I know. Not the same one as last time.
1055
00:44:28.929 --> 00:44:32.409
That had too much light. I also think that no
1056
00:44:32.469 --> 00:44:34.230
one
told me that he was going to be in
1057
00:44:34.329 --> 00:44:37.590
full character makeup, too. That's another crazy thing. Like, I'm
1058
00:44:37.630 --> 00:44:40.639
seeing this adult, like, fully just like, I got to
1059
00:44:40.659 --> 00:44:41.800
watch that movie at one point.
1060
00:44:41.820 --> 00:44:43.760
Do you think he was like, wanted to kind of
1061
00:44:43.980 --> 00:44:45.829
freak you out on purpose? Like, bring the kid in.
1062
00:44:45.860 --> 00:44:46.579
This will be funny.
1063
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:49.119
You know, I think it sounds like it. I don't
1064
00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:49.619
think so.
1065
00:44:49.820 --> 00:44:51.900
I think he was like, if I really look at it,
1066
00:44:51.940 --> 00:44:54.280
I'm like, he's in crazy makeup. And he probably doesn't
1067
00:44:54.300 --> 00:44:56.659
want a picture because he doesn't want that look to
1068
00:44:56.699 --> 00:45:00.130
get out there. I don't know, you know, but it's
1069
00:45:00.150 --> 00:45:02.269
so funny that he was like, I need to impart
1070
00:45:02.329 --> 00:45:04.250
something on this kid. I need to talk to him.
1071
00:45:04.849 --> 00:45:06.690
And it was great. It was the best experience of
1072
00:45:06.750 --> 00:45:07.070
my life.
1073
00:45:07.210 --> 00:45:09.570
I didn't appreciate it at the moment as much, but
1074
00:45:09.650 --> 00:45:11.150
now it is one of those things where it's like
1075
00:45:11.530 --> 00:45:11.829
the best.
1076
00:45:11.969 --> 00:45:15.699
So I'm curious about what it took, because you talk
1077
00:45:15.739 --> 00:45:17.260
about this in the book, you had to sort of
1078
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:20.800
overcome a lot in order to say, yeah, I think
1079
00:45:20.860 --> 00:45:22.239
I could get, I want to get married.
1080
00:45:22.670 --> 00:45:24.469
Obviously it's meeting your wife.
1081
00:45:24.489 --> 00:45:26.190
Well, it's so crazy because I think that we live
1082
00:45:26.210 --> 00:45:28.110
in this culture now where it's like, it's not, I
1083
00:45:28.130 --> 00:45:29.949
don't know, fashionable to get married. Like none of my
1084
00:45:29.989 --> 00:45:31.570
friends are married or anything like that. Like you don't
1085
00:45:31.630 --> 00:45:34.030
know what to do or I didn't know what to do.
1086
00:45:34.050 --> 00:45:35.889
Like, it's like, okay, maybe we'll get married. Maybe we'll
1087
00:45:35.909 --> 00:45:36.429
do this thing.
1088
00:45:36.469 --> 00:45:41.150
And, and, and I think the stress of asking someone
1089
00:45:41.230 --> 00:45:43.469
to marry you is an intense thing. And my wife
1090
00:45:43.730 --> 00:45:45.469
is one of these people that June, I'm going to
1091
00:45:45.489 --> 00:45:46.489
remind you, it's June.
1092
00:45:46.530 --> 00:45:54.659
Thank you. Like the month. Okay, yeah. So June. Hey, July, baby,
1093
00:45:54.699 --> 00:45:57.639
I love you. It's June. Right, right, right. I knew
1094
00:45:57.659 --> 00:46:01.639
it was summer. So May and I are out. But like,
1095
00:46:01.659 --> 00:46:04.360
you know, so I kind of planned this like, like,
1096
00:46:04.420 --> 00:46:05.260
you know, surprise.
1097
00:46:05.820 --> 00:46:07.619
She didn't know I was going to ask her to
1098
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:09.000
marry her. And I think there's a lot of people
1099
00:46:09.019 --> 00:46:10.639
like you plan it out, like you pick a ring
1100
00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:13.829
out together and there's like a little gamemanship there. But
1101
00:46:13.889 --> 00:46:15.849
I didn't know I was going to do it all
1102
00:46:15.889 --> 00:46:18.119
in secret. June is the type of person where you
1103
00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:20.360
have to tell her every detail.
1104
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:20.539
Of the night.
1105
00:46:20.940 --> 00:46:22.719
She often will bail on one of the details. We
1106
00:46:22.760 --> 00:46:24.360
can't do more than one thing in one night. We
1107
00:46:24.380 --> 00:46:26.420
go see a movie. We can't have dinner in a movie.
1108
00:46:26.679 --> 00:46:27.079
Oh, really?
1109
00:46:27.139 --> 00:46:27.400
Oh, yeah.
1110
00:46:27.460 --> 00:46:29.920
She is one, one and done. She's like, and my
1111
00:46:29.980 --> 00:46:32.260
energy reserve is over. But this night I needed to
1112
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:35.139
get it to a second location because I knew that
1113
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:36.860
that's where I was going to propose to her. And
1114
00:46:36.889 --> 00:46:38.949
I was like, hey, you know, maybe we'll maybe on
1115
00:46:38.969 --> 00:46:41.150
the way home from dinner, we'll go stop at this beach.
1116
00:46:41.170 --> 00:46:43.090
I hear it's nice. And she's like, OK.
1117
00:46:43.389 --> 00:46:45.530
And like, OK, so we are committing to that, that
1118
00:46:45.550 --> 00:46:47.219
we are going to we're definitely go to that beach.
1119
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:49.320
Cause I have to lock her in. So she can't
1120
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:51.260
pull out of it. And she's like, yeah, yeah, we'll
1121
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:51.619
go to the beach.
1122
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:53.639
I was like, great. Just confirming though. One more time.
1123
00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:56.000
We are going to, we're going to the beach. She
1124
00:46:56.019 --> 00:46:57.019
knows you're getting engaged.
1125
00:46:58.659 --> 00:47:01.219
Just so you know, we're going to the place where
1126
00:47:01.260 --> 00:47:03.010
it's soft to kneel down.
1127
00:47:03.929 --> 00:47:06.309
So she, she goes like, you know, so we were
1128
00:47:06.389 --> 00:47:07.929
driving home from the restaurant. I go, all right, we'll
1129
00:47:07.949 --> 00:47:09.909
go to that beach. It's like, why let's go home.
1130
00:47:10.230 --> 00:47:10.750
I go home.
1131
00:47:10.809 --> 00:47:12.329
You did say we were going to, we're going to go.
1132
00:47:12.369 --> 00:47:13.820
And she's like, All right, we'll go to the beach.
1133
00:47:14.139 --> 00:47:16.699
So now I'm like bringing her there under duress and
1134
00:47:16.739 --> 00:47:17.840
I'm like, all right, I got to propose.
1135
00:47:17.860 --> 00:47:18.429
I'm going to propose.
1136
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:21.159
I'm walking her out to this thing and I get ready. I,
1137
00:47:21.150 --> 00:47:23.969
you know, I'm about to propose and I popped down
1138
00:47:24.010 --> 00:47:25.639
on one knee and I go, Jim, you know, Will
1139
00:47:25.659 --> 00:47:27.449
you marry me? And she looks at me with this
1140
00:47:27.610 --> 00:47:29.550
horrified look on her face. And she's like, what the
1141
00:47:29.730 --> 00:47:33.590
fuck are you doing? And I've never moved so fast
1142
00:47:33.650 --> 00:47:36.170
in my life. That ring box got closed, but shoved
1143
00:47:36.210 --> 00:47:37.210
back in my pants and jumped up.
1144
00:47:37.210 --> 00:47:40.130
I was like, what? What happened? I don't know. What
1145
00:47:40.210 --> 00:47:40.650
are you talking about?
1146
00:47:40.670 --> 00:47:42.570
She's like, what are you talking about? And she thought
1147
00:47:42.750 --> 00:47:45.829
I was doing a bit. that I had like done,
1148
00:47:45.849 --> 00:47:47.610
like just brought her here. I was like, when have
1149
00:47:47.670 --> 00:47:50.610
I done a marry me bit, you know, in the
1150
00:47:50.630 --> 00:47:52.420
middle of this beach, you know?
1151
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:54.340
So I'm like, I know it's not a bit. And
1152
00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:55.639
she's like, are you sure it's not a bit?
1153
00:47:55.679 --> 00:48:00.159
I'm like, I'm like convincing my wife that, that I'm
1154
00:48:00.260 --> 00:48:00.820
not trying to.
1155
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:03.500
Don't you also understand that this is what we deserve? Yes.
1156
00:48:03.579 --> 00:48:06.510
A hundred percent. We've devoted our lives to bits. Yes.
1157
00:48:07.070 --> 00:48:09.750
And this is what we deserve to be not believed
1158
00:48:09.789 --> 00:48:10.289
in that moment.
1159
00:48:10.389 --> 00:48:12.730
The person who will like leave one room, have a
1160
00:48:12.750 --> 00:48:14.750
hidden Freddy Krueger mask in the other, put it on,
1161
00:48:14.769 --> 00:48:16.829
then come back in and go, what? Scare the shit
1162
00:48:16.869 --> 00:48:18.550
out of her. Like, yeah, of course you're not going
1163
00:48:18.570 --> 00:48:19.829
to trust me when I ask you.
1164
00:48:19.730 --> 00:48:20.449
To marry me.
1165
00:48:20.489 --> 00:48:21.969
Were you wearing that mask when you proposed?
1166
00:48:21.989 --> 00:48:23.849
I did have that. I had the ring in one pocket.
1167
00:48:23.869 --> 00:48:26.670
A little detail he forgot to mention. So, you know,
1168
00:48:26.710 --> 00:48:28.409
and I had to convince her it wasn't a bit.
1169
00:48:28.429 --> 00:48:28.969
And I did.
1170
00:48:29.070 --> 00:48:31.010
And, you know, we kiss and it's this nice moment.
1171
00:48:31.030 --> 00:48:33.260
We're under the stars on this beach. And I just
1172
00:48:33.300 --> 00:48:36.980
hear from like the distance, get a room. And I
1173
00:48:37.260 --> 00:48:39.360
look up and there's like a kid who's been sitting
1174
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:39.900
on the bluff.
1175
00:48:40.289 --> 00:48:42.309
Like watching this whole thing play out.
1176
00:48:42.829 --> 00:48:45.550
And we're like, and I turn and look at him
1177
00:48:45.570 --> 00:48:47.300
and he's like, get a room.
1178
00:48:47.429 --> 00:48:50.000
And he kept on just yelling, get a room. He
1179
00:48:50.019 --> 00:48:52.539
didn't switch it up to another line. Nope, just get
1180
00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:55.300
a room. And we're like, we're getting, we have a room.
1181
00:48:55.460 --> 00:48:57.639
We have a room. You should get a room. And
1182
00:48:57.659 --> 00:48:58.760
so we had to like leave the beach.
1183
00:48:58.860 --> 00:49:01.099
You should have invited him to the wedding. So when
1184
00:49:01.139 --> 00:49:03.010
you kiss at the end, get a room.
1185
00:49:03.110 --> 00:49:03.909
Get a room.
1186
00:49:05.309 --> 00:49:09.570
You have an interesting wedding vow that your wife insisted on,
1187
00:49:09.750 --> 00:49:10.949
June insisted on?
1188
00:49:11.510 --> 00:49:13.869
Yes, I promised I would never put her on Scare Tactics.
1189
00:49:14.730 --> 00:49:18.670
Which was a scary prank show. She was like, you
1190
00:49:18.710 --> 00:49:20.280
have to put that in your wedding vow because then
1191
00:49:20.300 --> 00:49:22.800
you can't break that. But the thing that was the
1192
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:25.920
best about our wedding was, um, She let me hire
1193
00:49:25.940 --> 00:49:27.880
a Jack Nicholson impersonator to be my best man.
1194
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:30.119
Oh, my God.
1195
00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:34.000
You deserve all bad things that.
1196
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:36.420
Come your way. You deserve a terrible life, Paul.
1197
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:42.949
This Jack Nicholson impersonator who arrived to the wedding late
1198
00:49:42.969 --> 00:49:43.460
and goes, hey.
1199
00:49:43.550 --> 00:49:45.730
Sorry I'm late. I was at a party at Roman
1200
00:49:45.769 --> 00:49:48.909
Polanski's house. Oh, no.
1201
00:49:48.969 --> 00:49:51.090
That was his opening line. Now, the room is kind
1202
00:49:51.150 --> 00:49:53.760
of split. of like parents and adults on one side
1203
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:55.059
and all of our friends on the other. Now our
1204
00:49:55.139 --> 00:49:58.550
friends on the other side are having the best time. Like, ah,
1205
00:49:58.570 --> 00:50:00.389
this is insane. And the people on the other side
1206
00:50:00.409 --> 00:50:02.389
are going, oh, I think he might know Jack Nicholson.
1207
00:50:03.079 --> 00:50:06.400
And now I had written this speech for the Jack Nicholson.
1208
00:50:06.619 --> 00:50:08.610
And I was like, you know, Paul and June are
1209
00:50:08.659 --> 00:50:09.570
as good as it gets.
1210
00:50:09.989 --> 00:50:14.429
You know, and he was just a wolf. And, you know, and,
1211
00:50:14.469 --> 00:50:16.949
you know, but he's going to give her some terms
1212
00:50:17.030 --> 00:50:19.329
of endearment.
1213
00:50:19.409 --> 00:50:21.309
What did you get to like once over the cuckoo's nest?
1214
00:50:21.389 --> 00:50:24.869
Oh, I did everything. Why are you still married? How
1215
00:50:24.949 --> 00:50:26.050
is this? Hey, wait a minute.
1216
00:50:26.210 --> 00:50:30.360
Why has this not been annulled? Why didn't lightning strike?
1217
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:31.800
How'd you get about Schmidt?
1218
00:50:33.050 --> 00:50:36.690
So I tell him, I tell this guy the whole thing. Oh,
1219
00:50:36.929 --> 00:50:38.829
trust me. He does. Oh, I get it all in there.
1220
00:50:39.230 --> 00:50:41.769
And he goes, uh, and, and, and he goes, uh, great.
1221
00:50:41.809 --> 00:50:43.949
I got it. And, and then the day of the wedding, uh,
1222
00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:49.820
he pulls me aside. He goes, you have a teleprompter teleprompter. No,
1223
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:52.519
it's a wedding. There's no teleprompter at my wedding. He
1224
00:50:52.539 --> 00:50:54.960
goes like, I'm not going to really remember the, too
1225
00:50:54.980 --> 00:50:57.679
much of the speech. And I go, okay. How about
1226
00:50:57.739 --> 00:50:58.480
read it? Yeah.
1227
00:50:58.659 --> 00:50:59.880
I was like, yeah, you can have it on PP.
1228
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:02.000
He's like, I can't see it. I got to wear
1229
00:51:02.019 --> 00:51:06.409
my sunglasses. He's wearing his sunglasses. And so he starts
1230
00:51:06.489 --> 00:51:09.949
devolving into things that aren't even Jack Nicholson.
1231
00:51:09.969 --> 00:51:18.190
He goes, June and Paul. Yummy, yummy. So he starts improvising.
1232
00:51:18.250 --> 00:51:21.190
Improvising his Jack Nicholson.
1233
00:51:21.309 --> 00:51:30.280
Yummy, yummy. Yummy, yummy. And then he ends his speech
1234
00:51:30.300 --> 00:51:32.760
by going, and if anyone wants to give me a hug,
1235
00:51:32.820 --> 00:51:37.440
I'll be standing right over here. And he just stood
1236
00:51:37.780 --> 00:51:40.369
awkwardly on this. People are like, you can leave now.
1237
00:51:40.389 --> 00:51:41.469
You can go now. Yeah, you can go now.
1238
00:51:42.110 --> 00:51:44.530
Uh, but that Jack Nichols, I did know that I
1239
00:51:44.570 --> 00:51:46.329
married the right person that when I brought that up
1240
00:51:46.369 --> 00:51:47.909
to June, she was like, you.
1241
00:51:47.829 --> 00:51:52.030
Can have them. And that was a nice, a nice moment. Yeah.
1242
00:51:53.409 --> 00:51:55.250
That would have not have gone over well for me.
1243
00:51:55.269 --> 00:51:57.650
You don't have to.
1244
00:51:57.409 --> 00:51:58.090
Think for impersonators.
1245
00:51:58.150 --> 00:52:00.340
Remember that mission impossible screening you did and you had
1246
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:01.579
a Tom Cruise impersonator.
1247
00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:04.380
So I, my friend, uh, said, Hey, you want to
1248
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:06.239
have like a mission possible screening? You
can invite your
1249
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:06.789
friends to it.
1250
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:08.059
And I was like, yeah.
1251
00:52:08.139 --> 00:52:10.630
And so, uh, unbeknownst to her, we get this beautiful
1252
00:52:10.670 --> 00:52:13.130
theater impairment and we invite all of our friends. And
1253
00:52:13.690 --> 00:52:16.070
I know this guy, or I've seen this guy on Instagram.
1254
00:52:16.230 --> 00:52:17.929
He's a Tom Cruise impersonator. I'm like, this would be great.
1255
00:52:17.969 --> 00:52:20.769
I'll have him introduce the movie. He looks a lot
1256
00:52:20.809 --> 00:52:24.389
like him. And I hire him and, you know, I
1257
00:52:24.389 --> 00:52:25.650
was like, it's going to be fun. And the guy's
1258
00:52:25.690 --> 00:52:27.219
charging me a lot of money for really just like
1259
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:29.389
literally come in and say, Hey, I'm so excited about
1260
00:52:29.409 --> 00:52:29.889
this movie.
1261
00:52:31.030 --> 00:52:31.300
You know?
1262
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:34.940
And, and so I get there and, and all of
1263
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:36.860
a sudden someone comes up to me like, did you
1264
00:52:36.900 --> 00:52:37.960
hire a Tom Cruise impersonator?
1265
00:52:38.300 --> 00:52:40.909
And I go, You can't do this. You can't do this.
1266
00:52:40.969 --> 00:52:44.010
And everyone's freaking out because we're on Paramount property and
1267
00:52:44.050 --> 00:52:47.769
it's Tom Cruise. And they're like, we don't mess with that.
1268
00:52:47.829 --> 00:52:50.050
He does not like impersonators. You need to get rid
1269
00:52:50.090 --> 00:52:50.530
of this guy.
1270
00:52:50.889 --> 00:52:57.400
And I'm like, oh, you need to kill him. And
1271
00:52:57.440 --> 00:52:59.500
I'm like, but I mean, it'll be fine. It'll be fun.
1272
00:52:59.539 --> 00:53:00.809
And they're like, you got to get rid of him.
1273
00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:04.119
And I don't know what to do. And, and luckily
1274
00:53:04.139 --> 00:53:05.519
I'm like, I think it will be fine. I think
1275
00:53:05.539 --> 00:53:08.320
we'll tell nobody to take pictures of it or anything
1276
00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:11.420
like that. And he's like, and I finally like we
1277
00:53:11.980 --> 00:53:13.760
they get him to relent and we bring in this
1278
00:53:13.820 --> 00:53:15.039
guy and he crashed.
1279
00:53:15.619 --> 00:53:17.380
He was great. He was great. He came in as
1280
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:20.960
Tom Cruise. Nothing untoward about Tom. He did. He did
1281
00:53:20.980 --> 00:53:23.920
Tom Cruise a solid. I feel like he presented the
1282
00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:27.219
best version of Tom Cruise. OK, here's my impersonator story.
1283
00:53:27.539 --> 00:53:29.760
The year is, I believe, 1984.
1284
00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:35.179
I'm just starting to befriend and write comedy with Greg Daniels.
1285
00:53:35.420 --> 00:53:38.000
And we're in college and we go visit his parents
1286
00:53:38.059 --> 00:53:41.349
who live. in Rhode Island at the time. They live
1287
00:53:41.369 --> 00:53:43.670
in Barrington, Rhode Island, and his dad's a big wig
1288
00:53:43.889 --> 00:53:46.769
at the radio station. The father tells us he's hired
1289
00:53:46.809 --> 00:53:49.409
a Michael Jackson impersonator to be the star.
1290
00:53:49.190 --> 00:53:49.909
Of the parade.
1291
00:53:50.429 --> 00:53:52.630
And he said, can you guys help me out? Because
1292
00:53:52.860 --> 00:53:56.039
it was Greg, myself, and a couple of our friends.
1293
00:53:56.079 --> 00:53:58.179
He said, can you guys walk along on either side
1294
00:53:58.219 --> 00:54:01.639
like your bodyguards? I'll give you yellow t-shirts from the
1295
00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:03.599
radio station, but walk along and be sort of like
1296
00:54:03.619 --> 00:54:06.699
the bodyguards that walk along to protect. And Michael Jackson
1297
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:08.929
is such a huge deal right now that It could
1298
00:54:08.949 --> 00:54:10.989
get out of hand, just be there in case something happens.
1299
00:54:11.050 --> 00:54:14.869
And we say, okay. So it's a big parade, 4th
1300
00:54:14.909 --> 00:54:18.309
of July, I think 1984, I want to say. And
1301
00:54:19.309 --> 00:54:20.230
I know this is real.
1302
00:54:20.250 --> 00:54:22.889
I didn't make this up in my crazy mind because
1303
00:54:22.929 --> 00:54:25.579
someone recently found a photograph. And I'm there and there's
1304
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:28.610
another guy there, Dan McGrath. who's tall and lanky like me.
1305
00:54:28.650 --> 00:54:30.659
And he liked the idea of, yeah, you guys are tall.
1306
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:31.880
You look like you could be bodyguards.
1307
00:54:31.980 --> 00:54:35.960
We don't. I was 6'4 and 155 pounds. And that's
1308
00:54:35.980 --> 00:54:37.079
wearing a 50 pound hat.
1309
00:54:37.300 --> 00:54:43.389
And so we're walking alongside the motorcade. Suddenly the entourage
1310
00:54:43.409 --> 00:54:46.570
shows up, because this Michael Jackson impersonator has an entourage.
1311
00:54:46.929 --> 00:54:50.289
And then he shows up. Sona looks more like Michael
1312
00:54:50.309 --> 00:54:57.150
Jackson than this guy does. Seriously, seriously, Eduardo, it's like,
1313
00:54:57.769 --> 00:55:00.570
I swear to God, Eduardo, it's like if you wore
1314
00:55:00.650 --> 00:55:02.349
a glove, a Michael Jackson glove.
1315
00:55:03.730 --> 00:55:05.369
And said, I'm Michael Jackson.
1316
00:55:06.769 --> 00:55:09.349
He looked nothing like Michael Jackson, but he had the
1317
00:55:09.449 --> 00:55:12.519
glove and he put some sunglasses on and he sat
1318
00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:15.539
in the back and they had told everybody, we've got
1319
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:18.059
a special guest and it's going to be a real
1320
00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:21.599
thriller for all of you. So everybody turns out in
1321
00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:24.039
all of Rhode Island to see this thing. And I'm
1322
00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:27.809
walking
alongside this motorcade and this is my favorite part.
1323
00:55:28.190 --> 00:55:30.510
I keep looking up at this guy and he's sort
1324
00:55:30.530 --> 00:55:32.889
of talking like Michael and acting like fame's been rough
1325
00:55:32.929 --> 00:55:33.230
for him.
1326
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:36.429
And he doesn't know how to handle the new fame of.
1327
00:55:36.429 --> 00:55:39.409
Being, and I'm thinking, what are you talking about?
1328
00:55:39.429 --> 00:55:41.590
I believe you're from Cuba.
1329
00:55:44.030 --> 00:55:47.769
And I think you have a Dutch accent.
1330
00:55:48.670 --> 00:55:51.469
Everything's wrong. You could lose some weight. Like, it was
1331
00:55:51.489 --> 00:55:55.050
just crazy. So he's sitting in the, and at one point,
1332
00:55:55.980 --> 00:55:57.760
people I can tell are just sort of bummed out.
1333
00:55:57.780 --> 00:55:59.579
And at one point a kid steps out of the
1334
00:55:59.619 --> 00:56:01.889
crowd with a water balloon and it's right in my,
1335
00:56:02.179 --> 00:56:06.110
like I'm blocking, it's between me and I step back
1336
00:56:06.389 --> 00:56:10.469
out of the way and he nails the fake Michael Jackson.
1337
00:56:11.969 --> 00:56:15.110
I step out of the way. And I remember Greg's
1338
00:56:15.170 --> 00:56:16.929
dad afterwards saying, I saw that.
1339
00:56:17.630 --> 00:56:19.880
You like, you did nothing. And I was like, he
1340
00:56:19.920 --> 00:56:23.400
looks nothing like Michael Jackson. I'm not going to take
1341
00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:28.980
a water balloon for him. Let alone a bullet. Absolute madness.
1342
00:56:29.099 --> 00:56:32.389
Oh my God. I want to make sure I mentioned
1343
00:56:32.409 --> 00:56:33.570
the title. Yes.
1344
00:56:33.750 --> 00:56:37.050
First of all, we could talk, I believe. For 15 hours.
1345
00:56:38.500 --> 00:56:40.019
It's a joy to talk to you, Paul.
1346
00:56:40.159 --> 00:56:40.900
And I knew that.
1347
00:56:41.019 --> 00:56:44.619
So this is one of those just absolutely fun. It
1348
00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:46.780
feels like a vacation day. I'm going to make sure
1349
00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:48.280
that none of us get paid because we shouldn't be
1350
00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:49.880
paid to talk to you. Oh, no.
1351
00:56:49.900 --> 00:56:51.739
I want to get paid. No, no, no. I'll pay
1352
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:53.510
for any of you. This is fun, but I want
1353
00:56:53.590 --> 00:56:54.130
to get paid.
1354
00:56:54.250 --> 00:56:56.510
Adam, with the exception of myself, I have to for
1355
00:56:56.550 --> 00:56:58.030
tax reasons, but no one else gets paid today.
1356
00:56:58.230 --> 00:56:59.409
It's that much of a joy.
1357
00:56:59.429 --> 00:56:59.889
What does that mean?
1358
00:56:59.909 --> 00:57:03.289
This is really nice. Well, we quit. Yeah. What's that?
1359
00:57:03.389 --> 00:57:03.710
We quit.
1360
00:57:04.050 --> 00:57:04.989
No, I don't want to quit.
1361
00:57:05.170 --> 00:57:07.090
Well, we got to stand up for our
rights.
1362
00:57:07.110 --> 00:57:09.949
Don't say that on mic. You bet we're going to
1363
00:57:09.969 --> 00:57:11.710
quit and then quietly have a conversation later.
1364
00:57:11.730 --> 00:57:12.949
I got nothing else going on.
1365
00:57:13.610 --> 00:57:15.070
There we go.
1366
00:57:15.110 --> 00:57:16.630
There we go.
1367
00:57:16.670 --> 00:57:17.929
Hey, thank you, Michael.
1368
00:57:17.989 --> 00:57:24.949
Is that Michael Jackson down there? The book is Joyful
1369
00:57:25.070 --> 00:57:29.489
Recollections of Trauma. And it really is a delight. And
1370
00:57:29.510 --> 00:57:33.599
Paul Scheer, big fan of yours uh you've you're so
1371
00:57:33.679 --> 00:57:36.099
funny and you've got a big heart and please come
1372
00:57:36.139 --> 00:57:39.019
back because we could we could do this for 15.
1373
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:39.760
Hours and i would love to have you come back
1374
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:41.199
to how did this get made one time oh i
1375
00:57:41.219 --> 00:57:42.460
would do that yeah that'd be really fun.
1376
00:57:42.460 --> 00:57:45.739
Yeah let's pick uh please just a not a baby movie.
1377
00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:47.360
I can't do it for you yeah no we'll give
1378
00:57:47.389 --> 00:57:49.280
you something good we'll give you something upsetting when uh
1379
00:57:49.320 --> 00:57:52.150
when such an innocent young creature says.
1380
00:57:51.989 --> 00:57:55.650
I'd like to fuck her like crazy you know it's
1381
00:57:55.670 --> 00:57:58.670
like i can't handle it it's.
1382
00:57:58.550 --> 00:58:03.170
Just upsetting And another thing about Italians. Wait a second, baby.
1383
00:58:03.530 --> 00:58:05.230
Why are you so....
1384
00:58:06.110 --> 00:58:06.190
Baby.
1385
00:58:06.369 --> 00:58:08.690
Yeah, baby with crazy conspiracy theories.
1386
00:58:09.010 --> 00:58:13.670
We never landed on the moon. All right. Go in peace,
1387
00:58:13.710 --> 00:58:14.849
Paul Scheer. All right.
1388
00:58:21.510 --> 00:58:24.829
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Hey, let's do a voicemail.
1413
01:00:00.239 --> 01:00:01.079
What do you guys say?
1414
01:00:03.420 --> 01:00:04.000
Okay.
1415
01:00:04.219 --> 01:00:05.800
No, I don't want to. Bye.
1416
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:08.699
Okay, Mickey Rooney. Mickey Rooney?
1417
01:00:08.719 --> 01:00:11.590
Hey, let's do a show. We'll do it in the backyard.
1418
01:00:12.030 --> 01:00:15.190
We'll raise enough money to save the town. Yes, I
1419
01:00:15.630 --> 01:00:17.389
would like to do a voicemail. I like to hear,
1420
01:00:18.110 --> 01:00:21.670
like any king, sometimes I like to remove my crown
1421
01:00:22.329 --> 01:00:25.039
and walk amongst the people.
1422
01:00:25.599 --> 01:00:27.179
Okay, here we go. Find out what they're really saying.
1423
01:00:27.480 --> 01:00:30.980
Hi, my name's Ben. I'm from Ohio. And my question
1424
01:00:31.139 --> 01:00:34.489
is a little morbid, but there's this new technology or
1425
01:00:34.510 --> 01:00:38.650
an app where you can scan QR codes on someone's
1426
01:00:38.750 --> 01:00:42.269
gravestone and it'll show a glimpse of their life or
1427
01:00:42.389 --> 01:00:46.500
flashbacks or videos of them or their legacy. So what
1428
01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:51.320
would your QR code show people once they've scanned it?
1429
01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:54.480
And while we're at it, what would Jordan Schlansky's look like?
1430
01:00:54.940 --> 01:00:55.219
Thank you.
1431
01:00:55.829 --> 01:00:57.889
Well, I got to say, Ben, that is a very
1432
01:00:58.030 --> 01:01:00.829
imaginative question. And I don't find that morbid at all
1433
01:01:00.849 --> 01:01:03.670
because I'm a morbid person. I spend maybe half my
1434
01:01:03.710 --> 01:01:08.510
day thinking about my own death and making elaborate, elaborate,
1435
01:01:08.730 -->
01:01:10.230
elaborate plans and rituals.
1436
01:01:11.530 --> 01:01:12.289
I love that idea.
1437
01:01:12.429 --> 01:01:17.219
I do think that gravestones are going to have screens.
1438
01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:21.679
They're basically just going to be screens and everyone's going
1439
01:01:21.699 --> 01:01:24.820
to download. all the pictures and video from their lives
1440
01:01:24.889 --> 01:01:27.110
so that when you're walking around in a graveyard, you're
1441
01:01:27.170 --> 01:01:30.530
actually walking through all these screens and you can look
1442
01:01:30.550 --> 01:01:33.989
at what that person experienced in their lifetime, their travels,
1443
01:01:34.050 --> 01:01:36.929
the food they ate. Yes, occasionally a dick pic.
1444
01:01:37.429 --> 01:01:41.099
Yours is just going to be their airing Samsung TV
1445
01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:43.420
of all the reruns of your old show.
1446
01:01:43.460 --> 01:01:46.119
There won't be traditional gravestones in the future. They'll all
1447
01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:50.429
be Samsung televisions that have a grave shape. And they'll
1448
01:01:50.449 --> 01:01:52.670
just be wedged in the ground. And people will go
1449
01:01:52.710 --> 01:01:56.130
to graveyards to really be entertained by what people did
1450
01:01:56.150 --> 01:02:00.150
in a previous life. The ultimate weirdness is going to
1451
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be people shooting themselves who are alive, people taping themselves,
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watching other people's gravestones. So they're spending their lifetime watching
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a dead person's lifetime.
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Will that show up on their grave TV when they die?
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Yes, yes, yes. And then the snake eats its tail
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and civilization just becomes inverted and eventually it disappears. It's
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a mind blower. But Ben, I'm glad you brought this
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up because it's quite clear what my QR code is
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01:02:32.239 --> 01:02:35.679
going to be. It's going to lead you to all
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my greatest hits, everything from my television career. And there's
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01:02:40.980 --> 01:02:43.440
also going to be commercials so that it's monetized.
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01:02:43.639 --> 01:02:44.590
Oh, no.
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01:02:44.780 --> 01:02:46.250
Yes. So what do you mean?
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Oh, no, that's perfect because a grave needs upkeep. My
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01:02:49.539 --> 01:02:53.449
grave will be very heavily visited. I mean, look at
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01:02:53.489 --> 01:02:55.530
how many people go see Elvis. So we're going to
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01:02:55.570 --> 01:03:00.449
need security, upkeep, one of those red velvet ropes. There's
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going to be concessions. Yes, I'm going to probably do
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01:03:03.500 --> 01:03:04.980
a lot of tie-ins. I'm going to make a lot
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01:03:05.019 --> 01:03:09.059
of deals before I go. And there will be commercials.
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01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:12.670
And that's going to help pay to keep the giant
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mausoleum looking good.
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01:03:14.510 --> 01:03:15.170
What about this?
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01:03:15.250 --> 01:03:17.809
This very segment could be airing on your gravestone. Do
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01:03:17.829 --> 01:03:20.289
you want to say anything to people that when they
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01:03:20.329 --> 01:03:22.909
hear this right now in their time will be listening
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01:03:22.949 --> 01:03:24.139
to you at your graveyard?
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01:03:24.449 --> 01:03:27.619
Yeah, that's a really good point, Matt. Well, I want
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01:03:27.639 --> 01:03:31.900
to say hello. I had a good life. Not crazy
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01:03:31.940 --> 01:03:34.599
about the way I checked out. I still think it
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01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:37.840
was someone in my family who did me in. Right.
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01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:38.840
For sure.
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01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:41.239
I mean, breaks just don't fail like that. They were
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01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:43.260
pretty clearly cut, and I don't know why the DA
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01:03:43.300 --> 01:03:46.219
didn't investigate. Um, but I'm gone.
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01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:50.250
Let's deal with it. And, uh, but please really look
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01:03:50.309 --> 01:03:53.630
into my wife. I think she was responsible.
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01:03:54.230 --> 01:03:55.289
I just, I have a question.
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01:03:55.309 --> 01:03:55.690
Yeah.
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01:03:56.110 --> 01:03:58.260
Can I please be put in charge of putting the
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01:03:58.300 --> 01:03:59.280
QR code on there?
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01:03:59.670 --> 01:04:02.860
Cause I really, I really just wanted to go to
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01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:04.480
the menu for the cheesecake factory.
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01:04:08.340 --> 01:04:10.860
I want you to put all this work into getting
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01:04:10.900 --> 01:04:12.059
your QR code, right?
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01:04:12.320 --> 01:04:12.539
Right.
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01:04:12.900 --> 01:04:17.409
People go there. It's just to a menu for her restaurant.
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01:04:18.469 --> 01:04:20.769
Well, but quite, but quite a menu. I mean, the
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01:04:20.789 --> 01:04:24.789
cheesecake factory has, I mean, that's quite a menu. So
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01:04:24.929 --> 01:04:27.349
there's part of me that's almost okay with that, Sona.
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01:04:27.590 --> 01:04:28.130
Okay.
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01:04:29.010 --> 01:04:30.170
Yes, Matt, you have a question.
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01:04:30.190 --> 01:04:32.340
I have a comment to those people who are currently
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01:04:32.420 --> 01:04:33.820
visiting Conan's grave right now.
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01:04:33.940 --> 01:04:36.059
Sona and I are trapped in here. Can you please
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01:04:36.139 --> 01:04:36.639
get us out?
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01:04:36.820 --> 01:04:37.000
Help.
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01:04:37.420 --> 01:04:37.619
No.
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01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:41.349
No, because like any pharaoh, I wanted to be buried
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01:04:41.489 --> 01:04:43.289
along with my.
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01:04:44.579 --> 01:04:45.260
My servants?
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01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:47.519
Who
were killed when you died?
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01:04:47.840 --> 01:04:49.920
No, no, no. You weren't killed. You were buried alive
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01:04:49.980 --> 01:04:50.280
with me.
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01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:53.119
No! That's my biggest fear.
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01:04:53.260 --> 01:04:53.860
I won't do that.
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01:04:53.900 --> 01:04:54.280
Is it really?
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01:04:54.780 --> 01:04:56.059
Yes. Oh, you won't do that?
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01:04:56.780 --> 01:04:57.139
I won't.
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01:04:57.340 --> 01:04:59.639
Listen, if it wasn't my biggest fear, I'd.
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01:04:59.519 --> 01:05:00.340
Be fine with it.
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01:05:00.340 --> 01:05:01.340
Okay, that's your deal breaker.
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01:05:01.699 --> 01:05:04.070
But I don't want to, I would rather not be
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01:05:04.110 --> 01:05:06.610
buried alive. It really is. I have like nightmares about it.
1525
01:05:06.610 --> 01:05:09.170
That's your greatest fear? Yeah. What about you check into
1526
01:05:09.190 --> 01:05:10.489
a hotel and the bar is closed?
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01:05:11.570 --> 01:05:11.690
Okay.
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01:05:11.710 --> 01:05:11.969
Okay.
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01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:17.480
Cause I've seen you when that happens and you start
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01:05:17.539 --> 01:05:22.039
throwing shit around the lobby. It's pretty, it's pretty intense. No,
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01:05:22.119 --> 01:05:24.840
you were buried with me because, and you willingly went,
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01:05:24.900 --> 01:05:27.760
you're my loyal servants and everything I'm going to need
1533
01:05:27.800 --> 01:05:32.380
in the afterlife, which includes Matt, you Sona, um, and
1534
01:05:32.420 --> 01:05:36.900
some recording equipment and a lot of cheese popcorn that, uh,
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01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:37.840
that doesn't go stale.
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01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:41.079
It's hermetically sealed. That's all we need in the afterlife.
1537
01:05:41.139 --> 01:05:43.559
We're going to be podcasting from the afterlife. This is just,
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01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:44.039
this is hell.
1539
01:05:44.789 --> 01:05:46.550
I know. It's not hell. It's heaven.
1540
01:05:47.530 --> 01:05:48.139
It's heaven.
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01:05:48.519 --> 01:05:49.119
I'm busy.
1542
01:05:49.420 --> 01:05:51.320
Oh, and think about all the guests we'll get in
1543
01:05:51.340 --> 01:05:55.760
the afterlife. Why, here comes Abe Lincoln and Gandhi. And look,
1544
01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:58.179
they're with Dean Martin. Come on over, fellas.
1545
01:05:58.519 --> 01:06:00.090
They're doing a joint interview?
1546
01:06:00.110 --> 01:06:00.190
Yeah.
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01:06:00.210 --> 01:06:04.449
I mean, that's amazing. Okay. Yeah, exactly. I guess. Yeah,
1548
01:06:04.809 --> 01:06:06.210
I love that. I think it's fantastic.
1549
01:06:06.230 --> 01:06:09.730
We're going to get the best podcast guests in the afterlife.
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01:06:09.769 --> 01:06:10.960
That's where all the great people are.
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01:06:10.969 --> 01:06:11.300
Yeah.
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01:06:11.969 --> 01:06:13.389
I'm glad we had this talk and I'm glad we
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01:06:13.429 --> 01:06:16.010
answered this question. Ben, I'm going to get to work
1554
01:06:16.070 --> 01:06:18.929
right away on putting this QR code on my gravestone.
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01:06:19.469 --> 01:06:21.710
I hope we don't need it for many, many years.
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01:06:22.150 --> 01:06:23.250
The Cheesecake Factory.
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01:06:23.309 --> 01:06:24.969
But that's up to my wife and her plan to
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01:06:25.010 --> 01:06:27.719
get me out of the picture. Anyway, we'll put a
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01:06:27.739 --> 01:06:29.760
QR code on it and it will link to all
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01:06:29.800 --> 01:06:34.900
my greatest hits. Plus, every 20 minutes, the menu for
1561
01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:35.739
the Cheesecake Factory.
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01:06:39.849 --> 01:06:43.489
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