CTP (S4E177) Good Enough Christian?의 전체 녹취록

missing is this relationship, this face-to-face relationship that we label, and I get this all the time, that we label emotionalism. 00:06:37.180 --> 00:06:43.180 And so and I say, no, it's actually emotions, and that's not bad. 00:06:43.819 --> 00:06:47.340 Yeah, I have got a song that I've written. 00:06:47.420 --> 00:06:50.699 I I I used to write and record with actual instruments. 00:06:51.579 --> 00:06:55.500 Those are all sold off long ago because I never got a record deal. 00:06:55.579 --> 00:06:59.420 I'm on disability, I needed the money more than I needed a guitar. 00:07:00.620 --> 00:07:03.660 So I use the Suno AI music system now. 00:07:03.740 --> 00:07:09.180 I've got a song long way to get to this called Inner Animal. 00:07:09.579 --> 00:07:23.420 Indeed, we we have emotions, but as Glasses says about the fool at, you know, with his heart to his left and the wise who uses his brain at his right. 00:07:23.819 --> 00:07:25.500 We are to have emotions. 00:07:25.740 --> 00:07:26.460 We have them. 00:07:26.620 --> 00:07:36.780 Even Jesus, and I go into this in uh in my constitutionalist books, experienced anger and other emotions. 00:07:36.939 --> 00:07:38.860 It's how you channel them. 00:07:39.020 --> 00:07:47.259 It's that you you have to feel, but you can't let it rule your entire life and rule your head. 00:07:47.420 --> 00:07:55.020 You've got to apply logic, reason, common sense for this place to even remotely work. 00:07:55.340 --> 00:08:00.780 But I've gotten, I jumped, I dove us right in the deep end. 00:08:00.939 --> 00:08:07.500 Let's back this trash can up, beep, beep, beep, or trash truck. 00:08:07.660 --> 00:08:12.540 Uh uh what I usually say, where were you born? 00:08:12.699 --> 00:08:13.819 Where were you raised? 00:08:13.980 --> 00:08:14.939 Where are you now? 00:08:15.259 --> 00:08:16.620 Significant places. 00:08:16.860 --> 00:08:18.379 I glossed over that. 00:08:18.460 --> 00:08:19.660 Let's get back to that. 00:08:19.900 --> 00:08:20.939 No worries. 00:08:21.180 --> 00:08:35.419 Yeah, I was born uh uh Coon's age ago in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and I've moved all around uh United States, Canada, been in business, been in sales, been uh in management consulting 30 years as a pastor. 00:08:35.659 --> 00:08:43.339 And uh now that I don't have those responsibilities, I'm writing what I want to write and speaking at conferences and and and such. 00:08:43.500 --> 00:08:49.419 And of course, my newest book is uh this is one that I've put off for 10 years because I didn't want to screw it up. 00:08:49.579 --> 00:09:05.019 It's kind of a this is kind of the lane God has had me in, and you said it at the very beginning that we need to get this word out that this God of the Bible actually, Father, Son, and Spirit actually loves the unlovable, the unloved, the unlovely, the unworthy, the unlikely. 00:09:05.339 --> 00:09:16.699 When something in our brain says, no, he likes the good, he likes the righteous, he likes the perfect,

he likes the and he does this too, but I've never found one of them. 00:09:17.259 --> 00:09:24.139 I don't know anybody that says that the only perfect person to walk this planet, they crucified him. 00:09:24.299 --> 00:09:27.419 Yeah, we're all frail and flawed. 00:09:27.819 --> 00:09:31.019 I've got another song called Complex Beings. 00:09:31.179 --> 00:09:37.019 Yeah, we our emotions, we have moods, things change, right? 00:09:37.179 --> 00:09:55.259 Uh, but indeed, it unless if one suffers hubris, we're all likely to have a bad self-esteem day and feel unloved, unlovable, unlow, unlovely, and those things that you address. 00:09:56.299 --> 00:10:06.059 I've uh I uh I've asked congregations, actually, I did a poll in two congregations uh uh a little while ago, and I asked them confidentially, had them fill out slips. 00:10:06.139 --> 00:10:07.179 I said, What are you afraid of? 00:10:07.259 --> 00:10:13.099 And it was in a Christian context, so I I expected bears and snakes and spiders to be some of the answers, right? 00:10:13.339 --> 00:10:25.339 But would you be surprised 65% again, religious context, so it's just it's skewed, but 65% and more said, I'm afraid of seeing God eventually and seeing the look on his face. 00:10:25.899 --> 00:10:29.579 Well, oh right, that's very honest. 00:10:29.899 --> 00:10:33.500 It's not I mean, because of the cross, it's not true. 00:10:33.579 --> 00:10:44.219 And I bet if I found out who said that, I'd said, you you know the cross says Jesus paid for all of that, and now you he bought the all the the heavenly delight for you, right? 00:10:44.379 --> 00:10:49.979 And they would go, Well, yeah, I know that, but I sure don't feel that. 00:10:50.139 --> 00:11:01.579 And there's this debilitating, debilitating fear in the pews, where and pastors tell me, I've I've done count, I've done consulting for churches as well. 00:11:01.740 --> 00:11:05.899 Why can't I get people to come to discipleship, small group, evangelism? 00:11:05.979 --> 00:11:07.259 Why can't I get people to come? 00:11:07.419 --> 00:11:11.179 And here's the answer, I think, largely, largely, my opinion. 00:11:11.579 --> 00:11:14.139 I've been there, done that, and I failed. 00:11:14.379 --> 00:11:15.259 I fell short. 00:11:15.339 --> 00:11:16.859 Why would I do that again? 00:11:17.099 --> 00:11:20.299 I'm just gonna sit here, not bother anybody. 00:11:20.539 --> 00:11:23.500 I'm gonna keep my head down and just hope. 00:11:23.740 --> 00:11:26.219 I hope that grace is what it says it is. 00:11:26.299 --> 00:11:30.459 I just yeah, well, gosh, God doesn't want that for us, though, either. 00:11:30.699 --> 00:11:32.379 He wants us to engage. 00:11:32.539 --> 00:11:37.659 And uh although I I don't want to push back, but I'm gonna a little push. 00:11:37.979 --> 00:11:42.059 I hate to push it to some people are going to hell. 00:11:42.859 --> 00:11:43.259 Right? 00:11:43.419 --> 00:11:43.899 Sure. 00:11:44.379 --> 00:11:44.699 Right. 00:11:44.859 --> 00:11:53.419 Uh he Jesus did say go forth and sin no more, at least try to sin no more, right? 00:11:53.659 --> 00:12:07.659 We we can be forgiven, but indeed, if you're purposefully, willfully malice aforethought, ignoring all the commandments, I hate to break it to you. 00:12:08.059 --> 00:12:11.259 You probably deserve to go to hell. 00:12:11.899 --> 00:12:12.699 Something's wrong. 00:12:12.779 --> 00:12:16.620 Yeah, so something something's a there's a disconnect there of some sort. 00:12:16.939 --> 00:12:20.539 So I'm talking, uh my book is primarily for the Christians, Christians. 00:12:20.620 --> 00:12:31.819 Now, so let's say these are the ones that are in, and I don't have a meet thermometer to you know to stick in somebody to judge that, but let's assume they have the Holy Spirit in their inner being, Ephesians 3. 00:12:32.059 --> 00:12:38.299 And that's the book, that's why I'm writing this to them, because they're there's just a lot of shame and guilt and fear. 00:12:39.179 --> 00:12:43.099 I was in, I was uh two weeks ago, I was in western Colorado. 00:12:43.179 --> 00:12:44.299 I live in Denver now. 00:12:44.859 --> 00:12:45.419 Oh great. 00:12:45.579 --> 00:12:51.819 Now I'm now I'm gonna have Colorado Rocky Mountain high in my head the rest of the day. 00:12:52.059 --> 00:12:52.459 Go ahead. 00:12:52.539 --> 00:12:54.379 Just the way my stuff to go to the side. 00:12:54.620 --> 00:12:58.219 Yeah, just the way my OCD brain always works. 00:12:58.379 --> 00:13:00.539 There's those intrusive thoughts. 00:13:00.699 --> 00:13:01.899 Anyway, I interrupted. 00:13:01.979 --> 00:13:02.299 Go ahead. 00:13:02.539 --> 00:13:03.179 So check it out. 00:13:03.339 --> 00:13:05.259 So this was in Western Colorado. 00:13:05.419 --> 00:13:07.339 This was a public, this was a bookstore, right? 00:13:07.500 --> 00:13:14.699 This was and I uh it was a number of people came to the table curious about the title, Good Enough Christian. 00:13:14.859 --> 00:13:15.819 You know, what is that? 00:13:15.899 --> 00:13:27.019 And and I said, you know, and there was one lady who came and and she was sixties, maybe seventy, and and she's I said, you know, uh, I wrote this book for you. 00:13:27.179 --> 00:13:28.299 And she said, What do you mean? 00:13:28.459 --> 00:13:29.419 Wrote it for me. 00:13:29.740 --> 00:13:35.899 And I said, This book is written for people who feel like they've been a disappointment to Jesus. 00:13:36.539 --> 00:13:38.539 She looked shocked. 00:13:38.699 --> 00:13:42.059 She started crying, and she said, Oh my goodness, that's me. 00:13:42.299 --> 00:13:43.819 And we went on to have another talk. 00:13:44.059 --> 00:13:50.299 A few minutes later, a young man about 30 came by and he's looking at my fantasy series, kind of a C.S. 00:13:50.379 --> 00:13:51.259 Lewis series. 00:13:51.419 --> 00:13:53.419 And and I said, You know what? 00:13:53.979 --> 00:13:55.819 Uh you you go to church, don't you? 00:13:55.899 --> 00:13:57.259 And he

goes, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:13:57.339 --> 00:13:57.819 I go to church. 00:13:57.899 --> 00:14:01.019 You know, you could and I said, You know, here's a book I wrote for you. 00:14:01.659 --> 00:14:04.059 And he said, uh, why you know what do you mean? 00:14:04.219 --> 00:14:13.019 I said, you know, this is for those people probably like your like me and like yourself, and we feel like we just haven't done enough to make God smile at us. 00:14:13.099 --> 00:14:15.339 And he looked at me and went, What? 00:14:15.579 --> 00:14:21.259 And I said, Yeah, you know, people who feel like they've just screwed up and they can't fix it. 00:14:21.419 --> 00:14:24.219 And he starts crying and he goes, You'll love this. 00:14:24.859 --> 00:14:27.979 He goes, Yeah, I need to get that from my brother. 00:14:30.859 --> 00:14:47.979 Well, I hate to bring this back to hubris, but I'm going to because we have to be aware there are Matthew 23 types, the viper snakes, blind guides that want to twist the scriptures, and you know, uh in their hubris. 00:14:48.219 --> 00:14:51.179 Oh, I'm going to heaven, you're all going to hell types. 00:14:51.579 --> 00:15:01.979 You know, uh, Dennis Quaid, I'm a bit jealous of, came up with the term before I could create it called churchianity. 00:15:02.459 --> 00:15:16.139 Because indeed, there are a lot of those who may go to a building that happens to have a steeple on it, but it's nowhere close to a church of Jesus Christ going on in there. 00:15:16.459 --> 00:15:38.779 So I, you know, I worry about and I pray for those people to find a more appropriate biblical scriptural-based church, and one of the reasons why I started the show, uh, you know, because a lot of people want to just pick or choose a few scriptures like saved by the blood. 00:15:39.019 --> 00:15:40.219 Oh, I'm good. 00:15:40.699 --> 00:15:41.259 Right. 00:15:41.659 --> 00:15:47.179 And gloss over the context of faith without works is dead. 00:15:47.659 --> 00:15:51.019 It's all gotta be together in context. 00:15:51.179 --> 00:15:54.379 The good, the bad, the ugly of it all. 00:15:54.859 --> 00:15:55.500 Yes. 00:15:56.219 --> 00:15:57.019 Oh, totally. 00:15:57.099 --> 00:15:59.419 And and that's a you know, and that's it's complicated. 00:15:59.579 --> 00:16:00.620 And it is. 00:16:00.859 --> 00:16:02.059 Here's what I found. 00:16:02.379 --> 00:16:09.339 Here's what I found is is I'm giving a gospel message that Jesus actually loves the unlovable. 00:16:09.659 --> 00:16:12.779 Uh, I'm giving it to Christians and non-Christians. 00:16:13.099 --> 00:16:15.419 See, what I found is we're all beat up. 00:16:15.579 --> 00:16:20.620 Uh, we're increasingly aware of our celestial loneliness, even though we don't label it that. 00:16:20.859 --> 00:16:33.419 We're we're certainly aware of broken relationships, and I can actually use the same, and there's a chapter in the book where I'm talking to uh kind of a composite of unbelievers uh using this this logic. 00:16:33.579 --> 00:16:39.099 Instead of talking to them about theology, I talk to them about kind of, hey, how yeah, how's it going? 00:16:39.179 --> 00:16:40.539 How's your path going? 00:16:40.699 --> 00:16:43.659 Uh how are your relationships going? 00:16:43.979 --> 00:16:45.740 Would you consider yourself lonely? 00:16:45.899 --> 00:16:46.859 Those kind of things. 00:16:47.019 --> 00:17:02.620 And and I push the uh uh the conversation to the point, and here's where I tell people when I train evangelism is you want to get to the point where the person says, uh that's too good to be true. 00:17:03.259 --> 00:17:04.940 And you go, there it is. 00:17:05.339 --> 00:17:12.619 And if I've convinced them, like, yeah, that's reasonable, I've missed something because it is too good to be true. 00:17:13.500 --> 00:17:21.740 And it is true, and and so we want to keep pushing people, and again, back to the rationalism and modern apologetics. 00:17:21.980 --> 00:17:26.460 We've boiled it down to we've tried to make the gospel reasonable. 00:17:26.779 --> 00:17:27.659 And you know what? 00:17:28.940 --> 00:17:40.059 It it's reasonable in God's head, but it's beyond anything, it's beyond any relationship that I know that God would actually love. 00:17:40.299 --> 00:17:42.859 I look, God loves me, a sinner. 00:17:43.180 --> 00:17:45.339 He loves me as much as the father loves the son. 00:17:45.579 --> 00:17:47.180 Jesus paid for it, that's it. 00:17:47.339 --> 00:17:54.059 And I I've got that, but God loves me as much as the father loves the son, and the son loves the father. 00:17:54.299 --> 00:17:56.220 Well, I can't explain that. 00:17:56.460 --> 00:17:58.379 I'm stunned by that. 00:17:58.700 --> 00:18:00.619 I don't love me that much. 00:18:02.859 --> 00:18:16.460 You know, and it's even way above right uh in my the book of Kennedy Project Carpe Diem, I discuss the four different types of love, right? 00:18:16.700 --> 00:18:43.980 Even a parent loving a child is still not the same as the agape love our creator has for us, and our creator loves us so much that he wants better of and from and for us, not just you know, uh not not necessarily helicopter parent. 00:18:44.139 --> 00:18:51.019 We are given free will, yeah, but at the same time also not laissez faire, do what you want. 00:18:51.099 --> 00:18:54.460 Hey, I'm your friend, I'm your buddy, I'm your pal. 00:18:54.859 --> 00:18:57.579 No, you need to be the damn parent. 00:19:00.619 --> 00:19:04.139 There's a there's a great quote from a uh a child psychologist. 00:19:04.220 --> 00:19:06.220 I don't think he was a Christian, but his quote's great. 00:19:06.299 --> 00:19:15.819 And it's uh his name is Bronfenbrenner, but he says every child needs at least one adult who is irrationally crazy about him or her. 00:19:16.059 --> 00:19:18.299 Well, I need that. 00:19:18.940 --> 00:19:24.619 And that's and that's actually that's the heart of the gospel is through Christ. 00:19:25.419 --> 00:19:32.460 For

for me, there is one person who actually is irrationally, humanly speaking, crazy about me. 00:19:32.539 --> 00:19:38.859 And through the Holy Spirit, Paul says in Ephesians 3, I can actually begin to feel that a little today. 00:19:38.940 --> 00:19:42.940 I don't have to wait for heaven, for heaven for the full, you know, for the full show. 00:19:43.099 --> 00:19:47.339 But I I can start tasting some of the appetizers and they should make a difference. 00:19:47.579 --> 00:19:50.859 And Paul argues it's that kindness that leads me to repentance. 00:19:51.019 --> 00:19:53.659 I actually need that to change my behavior. 00:19:53.819 --> 00:19:54.779 I actually need that. 00:19:54.940 --> 00:20:01.500 Well, in Ephesians 3, uh uh Paul prays for the Ephesians they would access power from God. 00:20:01.899 --> 00:20:04.379 Well, that should be noticeable. 00:20:04.619 --> 00:20:07.339 Power from God through the Holy Spirit in our inner being. 00:20:07.579 --> 00:20:08.379 I don't know where that is. 00:20:08.460 --> 00:20:09.899 That's above my pay grade. 00:20:11.659 --> 00:20:15.980 In order to begin to grasp the height and width and length and depth of love of Christ. 00:20:16.139 --> 00:20:17.740 Well, that's sophisticated. 00:20:17.980 --> 00:20:40.379 Paul's is implying that something's wrong with me, that even though I have uh Jesus purchased that love for me, I actually need God's power today to begin to experience it today because I've got something, and I talk about that in two or three chapters in my book, something in my brain is preventing me from experiencing the love of Christ. 00:20:40.779 --> 00:20:47.819 I my brain has been so beat up by relationships, I mean, since the since I was born and the doctor spanked me, right? 00:20:49.740 --> 00:20:57.819 And so it's it's defensive mechanisms are preventing me from being loved and preventing me from actually loving. 00:20:57.980 --> 00:21:02.460 I've done so much pre marriage counseling for people, I see it over and over and over and over and over. 00:21:02.619 --> 00:21:08.539 And when people realize it's not all your partner's fault, it's you know, it's largely your brain. 00:21:08.700 --> 00:21:13.899 And and your brain has got this defensive mechanism, and you don't see it because you're it. 00:21:14.220 --> 00:21:27.180 And and so the Holy Spirit apparently has this charge from from the uh from the Trinity to actually make Christians experience God's love now and experience God's love for others now. 00:21:27.339 --> 00:21:32.940 And if we don't lean into that, by the way, most Christians have never been told. 00:21:33.180 --> 00:21:52.539 I have a chapter in my book with like 25 quotes through from 500 AD to modern, different denominations, Protestant, Catholics, different theologies, and they all say the role of the Holy Spirit, the passion of the Holy Spirit, the charge of the Holy Spirit is to make us feel the love of God right now. 00:21:52.940 --> 00:21:58.539 You know, and and the question I asked right after all those quotes is Christian, do you believe this? 00:21:58.859 --> 00:22:03.019 And I would say most Christians really, I I think this is true. 00:22:03.180 --> 00:22:08.059 I can't you know, I can't prove it, but I believe most Christians have never heard that. 00:22:10.059 --> 00:22:13.339 I wrote down two notes while you were talking. 00:22:13.740 --> 00:22:16.859 First one, Satan. 00:22:17.180 --> 00:22:17.899 Satan. 00:22:18.859 --> 00:22:26.779 That little devil on your shoulder constantly trying to convince you you're not worthy. 00:22:27.019 --> 00:22:29.019 You will never be worthy. 00:22:29.259 --> 00:22:30.700 You are not good enough. 00:22:30.940 --> 00:22:32.460 You can never be. 00:22:32.700 --> 00:22:33.019 Right? 00:22:33.419 --> 00:22:57.259 So you've got that counter force trying to uh uh uh convince you that indeed they convince you to use your terms you're unlovable, unloved, unlovely, unworthy, and unlikely, and never can be, which is as you're saying, not true. 00:22:57.419 --> 00:23:03.180 And the other is you use you use the words above my pay grade. 00:23:03.419 --> 00:23:11.419 I I can't begin to tell you the number of times I've either said that on a my own show or another show. 00:23:11.659 --> 00:23:19.500 Like I talking about UFOs on paranormal, the new normal show. 00:23:20.139 --> 00:23:33.259 Genesis does not say, and God created life on Terra and only on Terra and only on this one-dimensional plague life created here. 00:23:33.740 --> 00:23:36.299 It doesn't say that. 00:23:36.619 --> 00:23:39.019 So not even in the Hebrew, yep, right. 00:23:39.259 --> 00:23:48.220 So it doesn't preclude God having created life elsewhere and them happen to be able to get here. 00:23:48.539 --> 00:23:53.099 So but but that's all about Prague. 00:23:54.940 --> 00:24:00.539 And God, and the other thing I say, God just goes back to hubris. 00:24:01.180 --> 00:24:07.980 God does not owe you all the bleeping search. 00:24:08.700 --> 00:24:10.700 He doesn't owe you that. 00:24:10.940 --> 00:24:12.940 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:24:13.099 --> 00:24:20.220 Yeah, and in that conversation uh that I made uh that I have with uh that uh composite non-Christian, I say that. 00:24:20.299 --> 00:24:30.460 It's kind of like, you know, all these questions you have, if I give you answers to your satisfaction of all these questions, which I can't do, but if I could, would you then follow Jesus? 00:24:30.619 --> 00:24:34.779 And and in my book, the person goes, well, yeah, follow's kind of strong. 00:24:34.940 --> 00:24:38.139 I might I might investigate Jesus, right? 00:24:38.220 --> 00:24:39.099 It's not the point. 00:24:39.259 --> 00:24:40.940 The point isn't that I don't know everything. 00:24:41.099 --> 00:24:45.500 The point is I don't want to give up my independence, hubris again. 00:24:45.579 --> 00:24:51.419 I don't want to give up I don't want to take that risk with Jesus, and that's that's

the big deal. 00:24:51.500 --> 00:25:03.099 And and evangelism should get to that point where the person where you say to the person, hey look, and I say this to the person because he says I've explored Buddhism, I've explored Hinduism and Islam. 00:25:03.339 --> 00:25:10.139 And I say eventually, I said, Look, I I don't want to offend you, but it looks like you're afraid to follow Jesus. 00:25:10.299 --> 00:25:12.299 I get that, you're not alone. 00:25:12.619 --> 00:25:15.980 It would be much safer for you to pursue any of those other paths. 00:25:16.139 --> 00:25:18.940 And if if that's what you're looking for, please do. 00:25:19.180 --> 00:25:26.059 If if you want to actually have your life changed and rattle your brain, uh let me introduce you to Jesus, but he'll change your life. 00:25:27.659 --> 00:25:30.619 And I've got no problem with Buddhism. 00:25:31.019 --> 00:25:35.740 I've talked to this before, especially on shows that were meditation. 00:25:36.059 --> 00:25:42.220 Buddhism as a philosophy is great, it's wonderful, it's got some great talents. 00:25:42.619 --> 00:25:46.059 I reject it as a religion, however. 00:25:46.460 --> 00:25:46.859 That's interesting. 00:25:47.180 --> 00:25:48.539 But that's an interesting perspective. 00:25:48.859 --> 00:25:51.500 There is a difference in those two there. 00:25:51.980 --> 00:25:52.299 Right? 00:25:53.099 --> 00:26:01.419 I don't reject all the aspects of the other face, but I you know what I mean? 00:26:01.500 --> 00:26:04.139 I I think you understand what I'm saying here. 00:26:05.899 --> 00:26:07.740 I I think that's very intriguing. 00:26:07.980 --> 00:26:09.099 Good good on you. 00:26:10.299 --> 00:26:14.700 Uh I'm not sure where to go next. 00:26:15.500 --> 00:26:23.980 But now, what I I but to say, I have Phil Seniard is who we're talking with. 00:26:24.139 --> 00:26:25.259 Go ahead. 00:26:25.740 --> 00:26:29.579 In the book, what I've done is is uh Hold it up. 00:26:29.740 --> 00:26:34.059 You got it there, hold it up for those of you in on behind the scenes video. 00:26:34.460 --> 00:26:35.099 There it is. 00:26:35.419 --> 00:26:37.019 Good enough Christian. 00:26:37.180 --> 00:26:37.500 Yes. 00:26:37.899 --> 00:26:48.139 It's written for the regular person, it's not written for theologians or pastors, just kind of sitting around the coffee table or around the bar or whatever, and and talking about I wish there was more. 00:26:48.299 --> 00:27:00.220 So in the book, I give seven biblical, uh neuroscientific and attachment theory reasons why we have such a hard time receiving the love that Jesus purchased. 00:27:00.299 --> 00:27:01.740 We Christians, I'm talking about. 00:27:01.980 --> 00:27:05.419 Um, not counterfeit Christians, but the real ones with the Holy Spirit in us. 00:27:05.659 --> 00:27:13.019 And there's seven it's normal, seven reasons, humanly speaking, everybody has a hard time receiving love. 00:27:13.099 --> 00:27:23.659 And then I talk about here's some things that

biblically you can actually do about it to begin to experience the vastness of Jesus' love that he purchased for you already. 00:27:23.899 --> 00:27:27.019 And and what I tell people is, you know, don't try all seven. 00:27:27.099 --> 00:27:37.980 Pick one, pick two that you can actually work on and have questions and an exercise to do, and it's be gr it's good for groups because you could do it together and encourage one another. 00:27:38.220 --> 00:27:47.500 But my goal is is to have uh people I I spoke on the love of God, this love of God for the unlovable at a church on Valentine's Day. 00:27:47.740 --> 00:27:54.059 And and uh after it was two services, after the when I did communion, I said, Look, here's what I want you to do for communion. 00:27:54.139 --> 00:28:05.419 I want you to ask the Holy Spirit to make you feel the height and width and length and depth of the love of Jesus before you come up and take the take the bread of the wine and then go back to your and just just let it seep on you, right? 00:28:05.579 --> 00:28:07.259 Just just experience that. 00:28:07.419 --> 00:28:25.180 Well, during the break, during the coffee break in between services, five men came up to me and men came up to me and he said and they kind of looked around and said, I think I think I experienced the love of God today. 00:28:25.980 --> 00:28:27.339 Five men said that. 00:28:27.500 --> 00:28:30.779 One in tears, and a dozen women said the same thing. 00:28:31.099 --> 00:28:32.940 Well, isn't that interesting? 00:28:33.259 --> 00:28:35.019 I mean, they've been going to church. 00:28:35.259 --> 00:28:39.819 And some of them, by the way, had an experience that one person said for decades. 00:28:41.500 --> 00:28:42.539 What are we doing? 00:28:43.019 --> 00:28:46.220 And we're teaching people really well, and I'm for that. 00:28:46.299 --> 00:28:47.180 I'm a teacher. 00:28:47.419 --> 00:28:49.500 But relationship. 00:28:49.740 --> 00:28:51.339 Jesus paid for relationship. 00:28:51.500 --> 00:28:53.259 He paid for relationship. 00:28:53.579 --> 00:28:54.779 Follow me. 00:28:55.419 --> 00:29:00.859 It really is personal, and I think many of us, you know how we pastors hide behind pulpits. 00:29:01.099 --> 00:29:03.819 I think a lot of Christians are hiding behind theology. 00:29:04.059 --> 00:29:04.940 What do you think? 00:29:05.500 --> 00:29:19.099 Yeah, and and with that, I'm gonna wrap it up and say, and we are to want to share that with others, and by sharing, I don't mean taking your Bible and beating people over the head with it. 00:29:19.339 --> 00:29:21.500 That's not what I mean, right? 00:29:22.139 --> 00:29:27.659 Little acts of random kindness shall be known by your fruits. 00:29:27.980 --> 00:29:34.539 Show you're a Christian, not speak that you're a Christian. 00:29:34.700 --> 00:29:43.740 It will be right at the old rush, not Limbaugh the talk show guy, the Canadian rock trio, show don't tell, song. 00:29:44.379 --> 00:29:46.220 Show don't tell.

00:29:46.460 --> 00:29:59.419 And you will bring more to Christ than beating people over the head with the Bible because they're gonna have the knee-jerk human reaction of, oh, this guy's just nuts, get him the heck away with me. 00:29:59.579 --> 00:30:03.899 Yeah, if you ask him if you know Christ, oh yes, yes, I do. 00:30:03.980 --> 00:30:07.500 Uh he'll tell you anything just to get away from you. 00:30:07.980 --> 00:30:08.779 You're not gonna be able to do it. 00:30:09.019 --> 00:30:14.299 Jesus says they will know you are Christians by your by your love. 00:30:15.419 --> 00:30:16.700 Not by your theology. 00:30:16.859 --> 00:30:17.419 Theology is good. 00:30:17.500 --> 00:30:18.299 I'm a theologian. 00:30:18.379 --> 00:30:19.500 I love theology. 00:30:19.740 --> 00:30:21.899 Jesus said they'll know you're a Christian by your love. 00:30:21.980 --> 00:30:25.579 And he said, you know, he expanded that for your enemies. 00:30:25.819 --> 00:30:27.180 And uh that's tough. 00:30:28.139 --> 00:30:29.980 Oh, we're above my pay grade. 00:30:30.539 --> 00:30:40.299 In my the book of Kennedy Project Herapium, I have Kennedy, the female lead, says, you know, some people make it hard to love them. 00:30:40.539 --> 00:30:44.859 So it's best, it's best just to love them from afar. 00:30:45.500 --> 00:30:50.299 Like, loving you doesn't mean I have to put up with you all the time. 00:30:50.940 --> 00:30:53.259 I will pray for your soul. 00:30:55.740 --> 00:30:57.099 Have you met my neighbor? 00:31:00.299 --> 00:31:05.180 So the usual Christian show, so can't avoid the pun. 00:31:05.579 --> 00:31:08.379 Proverbial last question, right? 00:31:09.259 --> 00:31:10.859 See what I did there, of course. 00:31:11.099 --> 00:31:12.059 Uh well, I see. 00:31:12.299 --> 00:31:15.259 That's why you're the host and I'm just the interviewee. 00:31:15.980 --> 00:31:18.539 Website, where do people find you? 00:31:19.259 --> 00:31:22.859 Yeah, they can find me at gospel-app.com. 00:31:23.500 --> 00:31:25.339 There's a lot of resources on there. 00:31:25.500 --> 00:31:28.940 My my doctoral thesis was on how to biblically forgive. 00:31:29.019 --> 00:31:30.059 I think we've screwed that up. 00:31:30.139 --> 00:31:32.779 And so you can find information on the forgiving path. 00:31:33.099 --> 00:31:37.500 Uh the books I would point people to Amazon, Kindle, and Audible. 00:31:37.740 --> 00:31:38.940 And particularly this one. 00:31:39.099 --> 00:31:41.180 Uh Amazon, Kindle, and Audible. 00:31:41.339 --> 00:31:42.779 Uh yeah, get them. 00:31:42.859 --> 00:31:43.899 It's award-winning. 00:31:43.980 --> 00:31:46.059 It won an international impact award. 00:31:46.539 --> 00:31:47.419 Secular awards. 00:31:47.740 --> 00:31:48.539 Which is fantastic. 00:31:48.779 --> 00:31:53.419 The idea is they looked at the book and said, Oh, this author's trying to make an international impact. 00:31:53.500 --> 00:31:56.299 And I went, I think that's just the gospel, isn't it? 00:31:56.940 --> 00:31:59.659 I think Matthew 28 was kind of that award. 00:31:59.740 --> 00:32:05.419 I'm just so uh that's why I would suggest I also have a book in the series Good Enough Parent. 00:32:05.819 --> 00:32:07.500 Uh similar thoughts. 00:32:07.980 --> 00:32:09.579 A lot of people need that. 00:32:10.220 --> 00:32:11.500 A lot of people need that. 00:32:11.659 --> 00:32:15.259 And the other one is coming out in January, Good Enough Prayer. 00:32:15.339 --> 00:32:24.059 And I look at my top 20 prayers in the Bible, and it's a very strange list that does not match anybody's that I know. 00:32:24.859 --> 00:32:27.259 All right, thank you, Bill Senyard. 00:32:27.740 --> 00:32:35.659 Gospel.com if I can get the word out. 00:32:36.460 --> 00:32:43.899 And it will, of course, in post, I'll put it for those viewing behind the scenes video on the five video channels. 00:32:43.980 --> 00:32:46.139 It'll be on the bottom of the screen. 00:32:46.460 --> 00:32:52.139 For those viewing, uh hearing on the 40 plus audio-only platforms. 00:32:52.379 --> 00:32:54.539 You should have written it down by now. 00:32:54.700 --> 00:33:03.659 If you haven't, again, it is Bill Senior and is gospel-app.com. 00:33:04.059 --> 00:33:05.740 Thanks for stopping by, Bill. 00:33:05.980 --> 00:33:11.659 And I will be tacking on a few of the tunes that I mentioned, like I wrote down. 00:33:12.299 --> 00:33:13.339 I'd like to listen to them. 00:33:13.579 --> 00:33:25.740 I'm gonna tack on my tough love song, my complex being songs, my inner animal song, and the one I recently wrote, which is an ode to Supergirl. 00:33:25.980 --> 00:33:29.500 The Supergirl movie is better than people think it was. 00:33:29.659 --> 00:33:44.940 There's a lot of hate on that movie, but the message, the bottom line message is a good one, and so I wrote a song about that uh called If You Claim Goodness, be nice. 00:33:45.099 --> 00:33:55.419 Because a line in the movie is of her mother saying, You don't always have to be nice, but I expect you to be good. 00:33:55.980 --> 00:34:03.339 So I quote that in the song and go on to say, Yeah, but if you claim goodness, you should be nice. 00:34:04.139 --> 00:34:06.700 You know, I think you're having way too much fun. 00:34:10.300 --> 00:34:16.380 I why shouldn't we in this process, right? 00:34:17.900 --> 00:34:26.620 It doesn't have to be it doesn't always have to be serious and firing brimstone stuff all the time. 00:34:27.340 --> 00:34:28.860 So thanks again, Bill. 00:34:29.740 --> 00:34:31.740 Take care, God bless, brother. 00:34:32.539 --> 00:34:33.500 Thank you, man. 00:34:45.019 --> 00:34:48.380 Ecclesiastes 10, 2 through 3. 00:34:49.420 --> 00:34:54.940 A wise man's heart is at his right hand, but a fool's heart at his left. 00:34:55.660 --> 00:35:02.060 Yeah, also, when he that is a fool walketh by the way, his wisdom faileth him. 00:35:02.940 --> 00:35:07.980 And he saith to everyone that he is a fool. 00:35:16.060 --> 00:35:18.140 We walk him to the

line. 00:35:25.580 --> 00:35:28.620 Into think, taught, entertain the while. 00:35:30.060 --> 00:35:35.660 You feel it in your bulk when pride starts talking loud. 00:35:36.300 --> 00:35:42.539 I know that hungry sounds it holds you off the ground. 00:35:43.500 --> 00:35:49.340 Go down, out the bed, get a card before it's bed. 00:35:50.060 --> 00:35:54.460 You got a line, you got it, don't fire. 00:36:10.460 --> 00:36:18.620 Do you have to do that? 00:36:19.340 --> 00:36:20.780 You bite the hook. 00:36:25.420 --> 00:36:31.180 One of the fight in silence, then last in the step. 00:36:32.940 --> 00:36:38.460 There we go before the way it gets dressed. 00:36:42.380 --> 00:36:45.019 Can do more than the rest. 00:37:23.980 --> 00:37:27.100 Not every spite is hunger. 00:37:27.420 --> 00:37:29.820 Not every spite is right. 00:37:30.860 --> 00:37:33.580 So dance the bravest dancer. 00:38:38.300 --> 00:38:46.460 It ain't all sweet songs by the fire, warm hands, soft words, pretty choirs. 00:38:50.220 --> 00:38:58.620 If I cut out the thorns from the story, I'd be dressing up a gravest glory. 00:38:59.580 --> 00:39:01.580 This is tough love gospel. 00:39:02.539 --> 00:39:04.539 Not just camp fashion. 00:39:05.580 --> 00:39:10.380 If I sand down the edges, I turn truth into a lie. 00:39:11.820 --> 00:39:14.140 Reality or delusion. 00:39:14.780 --> 00:39:17.340 I can't serve both sides. 00:39:17.900 --> 00:39:20.140 I'm not here just for the choir. 00:39:20.380 --> 00:39:23.100 I'm here with a hurt heart hide. 00:39:23.580 --> 00:39:24.220 Yeah. 00:39:25.180 --> 00:39:27.820 Some pages bleed red in the margins. 00:39:28.060 --> 00:39:30.700 Hard lines, hard calls, hard bargains. 00:39:32.940 --> 00:39:33.820 For your comfort. 00:39:34.220 --> 00:39:37.340 Then your house gets washed in the flood water. 00:39:37.500 --> 00:39:39.820 This is the gospel. 00:39:40.300 --> 00:39:45.500 Not just campfire, change, I stand down the edges. 00:39:45.660 --> 00:39:48.940 I turn truth into a lie. 00:39:49.260 --> 00:39:52.220 Reality of delusion. 00:39:52.460 --> 00:39:55.180 I can't serve both sides. 00:39:55.500 --> 00:39:57.740 I'm not here just for the fire. 00:39:58.060 --> 00:40:02.220 I'm here where the hurt heart hideous. 00:40:02.460 --> 00:40:05.260 Do you want a dream or do you want a mirror? 00:40:05.420 --> 00:40:08.140 Do you want a dark or do you want it clearer? 00:40:08.300 --> 00:40:10.780 If the truth cuts deep, let it cut through. 00:40:10.860 --> 00:40:15.340 Feel better, far that heel, then a sweet lie in your ear. 00:40:17.100 --> 00:40:18.860 This ain't cotton candy truth. 00:40:19.019 --> 00:40:21.820 Ain't a campfire, sing a long rhyme. 00:40:23.260 --> 00:40:28.060 You can't sell sweet dreams while the house burns behind. 00:40:28.940 --> 00:40:33.980 If it never cuts deep, it was sugar all along. 00:40:34.780 --> 00:40:40.380 If you skip the hard pages, you just rewrote the song. 00:40:41.260 --> 00:40:41.420 Mr. 00:40:41.740 --> 00:40:42.860

Top of the gospel. 00:40:44.060 --> 00:40:46.060 Now rainbows on a hire. 00:40:47.100 --> 00:40:52.220 If you have the hard words, you're just fanning the fire. 00:40:53.340 --> 00:40:55.100 I won't preach the loser. 00:40:56.380 --> 00:40:58.300 Just to make it sound lighter. 00:40:59.420 --> 00:41:04.860 If I only to the choir, I'm a singer, not a fighter. 00:41:06.539 --> 00:41:11.980 You can hum on the feel-good line while your neighbor breaks inside. 00:41:12.539 --> 00:41:15.420 Quote hope like a slogan. 00:41:15.660 --> 00:41:17.980 And look away from the crime. 00:41:18.140 --> 00:41:19.820 But a bandage on a bullet. 00:41:21.820 --> 00:41:23.500 Is a pretty little lie. 00:41:24.140 --> 00:41:27.180 If the truth never offends us. 00:41:27.980 --> 00:41:30.220 Do we ever even try? 00:41:30.460 --> 00:41:31.580 This is a tough love. 00:41:33.260 --> 00:41:35.340 Yeah, we're gonna fall on a wire. 00:41:39.420 --> 00:41:41.420 You just end the fire. 00:41:45.660 --> 00:41:47.580 Just to make it sound fire. 00:41:54.780 --> 00:41:59.980 I'd rather lose background and still then paint it great. 00:42:00.940 --> 00:42:12.060 I'd rather stand alone that's why the way Don't forget the call Think Christy on its card. 00:42:13.340 --> 00:42:15.580 Love that never want you. 00:42:34.860 --> 00:42:35.500 Just the best. 00:42:37.900 --> 00:42:42.860 If I always do the choir, singer, not a fighter. 00:42:43.820 --> 00:42:49.580 Oh if I dress up the danger, I'm a liar. 00:42:50.940 --> 00:42:52.220 Not a rider. 00:42:53.660 --> 00:42:54.700 Tough love. 00:42:55.420 --> 00:42:58.620 The Bible isn't just rainbows and lollipops. 00:42:59.180 --> 00:43:01.980 Singing combire around the campfire. 00:43:02.860 --> 00:43:05.980 You cannot ignore the harsh reality drops. 00:43:07.180 --> 00:43:09.740 To peddle such makes you a liar. 00:43:14.220 --> 00:43:18.460 Speaking not just to the choir. 00:43:19.660 --> 00:43:42.300 This, that, and in all things transpire, you can't get it. 00:44:06.380 --> 00:44:08.060 We break, we mend. 00:44:08.620 --> 00:44:10.780 We got moods, we got arranges. 00:44:11.100 --> 00:44:13.660 Quick flips, strange rearrangements. 00:44:14.300 --> 00:44:16.380 Seasons shifting in our skin. 00:44:16.620 --> 00:44:18.620 Quiet storms behind a grin. 00:44:18.860 --> 00:44:20.940 One word, whole day changes. 00:44:21.180 --> 00:44:23.420 Heart rewrites its own pages. 00:44:23.740 --> 00:44:26.220 We're just complex beings, that's what we are. 00:44:26.380 --> 00:44:28.780 Puzzle piece, hearts, little bite-sized scars. 00:44:28.940 --> 00:44:31.980 We got ups, we got downs, do we stick around on a dime? 00:44:32.060 --> 00:44:33.820 We can turn it, turn it all around. 00:44:34.060 --> 00:44:36.380 Complex bees, tangled and true. 00:44:36.539 --> 00:44:39.180 Half of me away, running, half running back to you. 00:44:39.500 --> 00:44:42.060 Complicated yet a life and living series. 00:44:43.740 --> 00:44:45.900 Books spells out the reasons. 00:44:46.220 --> 00:44:57.980 But I love you through the chapters and the seasons Your sunrise, your shutdown, your soft laugh, and a letdown. 00:44:58.060 --> 00:45:03.260 You go quiet, then you sing in every mood, every shade still clear. 00:45:06.140 --> 00:45:07.900 You don't have to sit the long way. 00:45:08.220 --> 00:45:10.300 Both hands full of tiny treasures. 00:45:10.700 --> 00:45:11.580 Do we stay? 00:45:11.820 --> 00:45:13.500 Do we stay through the reasons? 00:45:14.460 --> 00:45:16.300 Let's face that's what we thought. 00:45:18.940 --> 00:45:19.980 We gotta sneak it down. 00:45:20.300 --> 00:45:21.820 Do we stick around all the time? 00:45:21.980 --> 00:45:23.820 We can turn it, turn it all around. 00:45:24.460 --> 00:45:26.460 Let's be tangled too. 00:45:26.539 --> 00:45:32.380 Half of the way you run it, half running, back to complicated yet the books tells out the reasons. 00:45:33.740 --> 00:45:37.340 But I follow you through the chapters and the reasons. 00:46:11.019 --> 00:46:19.980 Seasons and changes We have ups and downs on a dime can turn it around. 00:46:20.300 --> 00:46:23.019 Complicated the book spells out. 00:46:29.740 --> 00:46:39.900 Complex bees, we got moods, we got ranges, little storms in our teacups, whole climates, seasons and changes. 00:46:40.140 --> 00:46:42.780 We go quiet, we go wild, we go tender than tough. 00:46:42.940 --> 00:46:57.500 One word, one look, one moment, can we just complex big trying to make stuff big on these tools, twist inside? 00:46:57.660 --> 00:46:59.820 We fall apart in real line. 00:46:59.980 --> 00:47:04.140 We're just complex big twists, quick and open. 00:47:05.500 --> 00:47:23.740 We gotta sit down on the diamond can turn around Some days I'm the hero, some days I'm the doubt. 00:47:23.820 --> 00:47:26.780 I'm the riddle in the rumor and I'm still working it out. 00:47:27.019 --> 00:47:31.019 Complicated like the book spells out some of the reasons. 00:47:31.340 --> 00:47:36.700 Every chapter, every score, every quiet little treason. 00:47:37.660 --> 00:47:42.700 So if I change in the middle of a sentence, if I laugh when I'm breaking down. 00:47:42.940 --> 00:47:47.660 That's just all my different versions showing up at once right now. 00:47:51.260 --> 00:48:01.660 We're just complex big, breathe, run the next side from these stuff and twist its side, we fall apart and real line. 00:48:01.740 --> 00:48:15.660 We're just complex big, breathe out, we got some jump on the jump and turn around on the jumping turn. 00:49:52.700 --> 00:49:54.700 I've seen it in the small stuff. 00:49:55.019 --> 00:50:01.660 The coffee left on the counter by text the text that says I'm running away. 00:50:05.340 --> 00:50:10.380 No battle for the easy No badge for the polish. 00:50:11.980 --> 00:50:14.380 Just don't make a little better. 00:50:29.340 --> 00:50:52.780 So you hear us the movie gets its punchline and then the credits roll away. 00:50:53.660 --> 00:50:59.019 But real life keeps asking What your willingness is okay. 00:51:05.740 --> 00:51:07.420 It doesn't cost much. 00:51:08.620 --> 00:51:10.620 It's just a little respect. 00:51:13.420 --> 00:51:18.300 This is only story proclaimed to the girl who has become super. 00:51:19.980 --> 00:51:24.220 You don't always have to be nice, but I expect you to be good for that. 00:51:24.460 --> 00:51:26.300 Movie will suffice. 00:51:28.060 --> 00:51:33.180 I declare be nice if you claim goodness, cause nothing share smile. 00:51:35.500 --> 00:51:37.100 Be nice while you're here. 00:51:42.060 --> 00:51:43.420 Be nice while you're here. 00:52:13.260 --> 00:52:14.460 By Joseph M. 00:52:14.700 --> 00:52:15.420 Leonard. 00:52:16.140 --> 00:52:23.500 Like and subscribe to Christitutionalist Politics Podcast and share episodes. 00:52:23.660 --> 00:52:25.260 We need your help. 00:52:25.500 --> 00:52:32.140 Thank you for having tuned in to another Christitutionalist podcast show. 00:52:32.539 --> 00:52:36.060 I really appreciate that you stop by. 00:52:36.300 --> 00:52:39.820 Again, please like, share, subscribe. 00:52:40.060 --> 00:52:45.180 We need you to help spread the constitutionalist movement. 00:52:45.420 --> 00:52:46.539 Thank you again. 00:52:46.860 --> 00:52:47.740 Take care. 00:52:48.060 --> 00:52:49.019 God bless. 00:52:49.340 --> 00:52:50.300 Love you all.