Ep. 7 Tiny Hands Shuffling Oracle Cards의 전체 녹취록

--> 00:02:27,160 So the word oracle comes from the Latin word to speak. 40 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:33,840 And it refers to priest or priestesses uttering their predictions. 41 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,880 So there are different cardomancy systems. 42 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:44,000 Probably the most popular of all of them is tarot. 43 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,380 And everybody is pretty familiar with it. 44 00:02:48,380 --> 00:02:50,360 It's used in a lot of media. 45 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,880 The images of the cards and things like that. 46 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,760 We're going to do a whole deep dive into tarot. 47 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,040 Don't worry. 48 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:06,040 Other different systems are like Lenormand would count as an oracle deck. 49 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,040 But it's more of a I have a Lenormand deck here. 50 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,040 It's upside down. 51 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,040 Not that anyone can see. 52 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,000 Is that gilded? 53 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,000 It is. 54 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:23,200 It's a gilded reverie Lenormand by Ciro Marsetti. 55 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,480 That's on my wish list for whenever I get to Lenormand. 56 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:28,680 It's so pretty. 57 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,840 I am such a whore for gilded anything. 58 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,640 Especially cards, especially when the sides are gilded too. 59 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,120 It's just like, oh, I love it. 60 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,600 Oh my god, it's beautiful. 61 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,160 It's shiny. 62 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,160 It's everything. 63 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:47,160 There's a boob on the ladies. 64 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,760 There's also a boob on the man. 65 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,360 But the lady is prettier, I think. 66 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,680 We are boob positive on this podcast. 67 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:05,240 We need to post a picture of that on our Instagram so people can understand what we're 68 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,880 goo goo got. 69 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,400 We'll have to figure out how to tag Ciro Marsetti in there. 70 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:16,960 I like the aesthetic of gilded, but I have a problem. 71 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,920 My hands are tinier than both girls. 72 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:28,320 I have a problem with shuffling gilded things because they're slippery. 73 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:34,200 I think they're a little bit like because of the coating. 74 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:40,720 I think the coating also makes them like the card thicker so they're not quite as bendy. 75 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,400 I like all those things. 76 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,240 But even better. 77 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,780 There are systems where you can use it and Le Dorman's based off of a standard playing 78 00:04:50,780 --> 00:04:52,960 card set. 79 00:04:52,960 --> 00:05:00,040 So if you look on our Le Dorman deck, it'll have like, you know, like eight of spades 80 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,700 written on the bottom. 81 00:05:03,700 --> 00:05:09,360 So that one's also one that's based on like a standard playing card that we know of. 82 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:14,400 But there is other people that read just straight playing cards. 83 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,080 I know Danny Mystic on YouTube. 84 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:24,440 She does that a lot because that's how her family did it when she was growing up. 85 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:32,440 But Oracle cards like we are talking about today are specifically the more free form 86 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:37,480 decks where creators and writers come up with their own system, their own artwork, their 87 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,760 own keywords and definitions. 88 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:45,920 So there's just a myriad of Oracle decks. 89 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:54,600 I think probably the most popular Oracle deck that's being like, I guess like the Oracle 90 00:05:54,600 --> 00:06:00,880 deck series that's being released right now is the seasons of the witch Oracle, which 91 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:09,600 Lauren got Brittany and me the season of the witch Samhain Oracle and 1010 would recommend. 92 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,360 It has a red gilding on the side. 93 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,020 So you know, hashtag melt. 94 00:06:15,020 --> 00:06:17,400 It's very beautiful, very insightful. 95 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,720 I used it on my my Samhain reading. 96 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,840 I remembered to do a Samhain reading, y'all. 97 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:23,840 I know. 98 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:24,840 Can you believe it? 99 00:06:24,840 --> 00:06:27,880 Did you take a picture of it? 100 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,880 I think I took a picture of part of it. 101 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,040 I can't remember if I took a picture of the whole thing. 102 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,240 See I want to know what I mean. 103 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:39,240 Obviously you don't have to tell us or on the podcast, but I want to know what it said. 104 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,640 I'll figure out what it said when after this. 105 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:48,040 Yeah, so says my birthday is like literally the day after and usually like birthday readings 106 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:53,040 are very similar to like a year ahead type spread, which is kind of how I feel Samhain 107 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,960 is since it's like the start of the witchy calendar. 108 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,280 Right. 109 00:06:57,280 --> 00:07:00,200 So I just kind of mash them together. 110 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,200 Right. 111 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:02,200 That's fair. 112 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,200 Are you? 113 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:11,040 How are you going to take off my lawn and are like, I'm stripping on the podcast down 114 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,960 to my my lighter long sleeve shirt. 115 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,400 I was

like, I was like, how is she going to do that with the headphones still on? 116 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:19,400 Oh, she did it. 117 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:20,400 That was hashtag Bluetooth. 118 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,400 So, you know, you know how it is. 119 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,400 She's got real easy. 120 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:27,720 Yeah. 121 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:33,000 So that's that's the kind of deck we're talking about is that season of the witch. 122 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,680 There's a the Beltane deck. 123 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,280 There's a Maybon deck that just came out. 124 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:39,280 Right. 125 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:40,280 It's a Yule deck. 126 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:41,280 It's going to be a Yule deck. 127 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,280 Right. 128 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:43,280 Oh, it's going to come out. 129 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:44,280 There's a Yule deck. 130 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:45,280 Yeah. 131 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,280 I want that Beltane deck. 132 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:47,280 I think is really pretty. 133 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:48,280 That's what you have. 134 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,280 Right. 135 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:50,280 Yeah. 136 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:51,280 Lauren gave me that one. 137 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,440 And yeah, yeah, it's great. 138 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,040 It's the one of the main themes in there are bees. 139 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,280 Like you see like little bee illustrations all over it. 140 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,720 I think that's why I like it so much. 141 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,720 I'm into bees right now, just like everybody else. 142 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:04,720 I love bees. 143 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:05,720 Yeah. 144 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:14,720 But yeah, so I was going to say the Samhain witch Oracle deck seasons of the witch, whatever 145 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,720 words put together, but we are literally just talking about. 146 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,240 I liked that one a lot. 147 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:27,240 Yeah, it was one of those ones where like I picked it up and I immediately could start 148 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:32,320 reading with it and I need very little. 149 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,680 I don't need to use a book very much. 150 00:08:34,680 --> 00:08:38,200 Does it have like questions on the card? 151 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,200 Does it pose a question on the card or it has little poems? 152 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,440 Yeah, little poems on it. 153 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:51,560 And they're very it's really interesting because when I read them, what will happen with me 154 00:08:51,560 --> 00:08:58,320 is that the same card won't mean the same thing in every reading, every person. 155 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,520 And sometimes it'll like highlight words for me. 156 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,320 Like those will pop out more. 157 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:11,080 But yeah, I love that deck and I can see why

people like seasons of the witch Oracle because 158 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,360 it's very, very, very well done. 159 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:14,360 Yeah. 160 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,800 And it gives your brain, oh, go ahead. 161 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:23,680 I was going to say, I love how there is like a series in Oracle decks. 162 00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:27,520 Like I'm all about like collecting series of things. 163 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:33,520 And like if I have a favorite book or author and they come out with another book, I'm genuinely 164 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,160 going to like go out and get it. 165 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,800 And I kind of feel that way when it comes to cards too, right? 166 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:45,800 I love to get one Oracle, so but I do love the concept of the season of the witch, but 167 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:51,560 I feel like her Samhain one is way darker than the Maybonne one that I got you. 168 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:53,000 And I love the Maybonne one. 169 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,000 You mean the Beltane? 170 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,000 Yes, that's what I meant. 171 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Yeah, the Beltane. 172 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:04,760 Well, because Beltane is about like, you know, so Beltane is like the opposite of Samhain 173 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:05,760 sort of like it's pretty. 174 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,200 In the circle of the year, the wheel of the year. 175 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,920 Because I it's a little bit. 176 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,680 Yeah, in my brain, they're opposites. 177 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:16,960 I don't know if they actually are on the wheel or not. 178 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:28,760 But Beltane is all about like life, birth, external light, things that we stereotypically 179 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,120 consider positive. 180 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,480 So new beginnings and then Samhain is opposite. 181 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:39,480 It's about like darkness and the ending of things and death and going internal. 182 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:45,160 So I think it's the fact that it is darker because I am like I love color. 183 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:50,640 I love colorful things other than when it comes to like wanting something neutral to 184 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:51,640 like. 185 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,080 You like your pop of color. 186 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,080 I do. 187 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,080 I have so many colorful things. 188 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,000 So I need neutral to kind of like. 189 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:04,560 Ground, yeah, my pretty powerful color. 190 00:11:04,560 --> 00:11:10,200 So I think that's the only reason why I can't get behind that one is because it's darker 191 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,800 and all the decks I have, they're colorful. 192 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,280 They don't really have anything that's darker. 193 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:21,600 Well, and it's OK if you're like called to a specific deck

and then other decks, you're 194 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,800 like, I can appreciate it, but it's not for me. 195 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,440 Like you can appreciate other people's like medium, like if as far as like like if they're 196 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:35,600 artistic, you can appreciate like the tools and stuff they use while knowing that it's 197 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:36,600 not really right. 198 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,600 It can still not be your aesthetic. 199 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:39,600 Right. 200 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:45,400 I did look up Samhain and Beltane are opposites on the wheel. 201 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:46,400 We are smart. 202 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:47,400 Thank you. 203 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:48,400 Thank you. 204 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,880 We're incredibly smart. 205 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:58,880 I do I do understand the like not connecting with the artwork, but my need for a complete 206 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,240 set kind of overrides that. 207 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:03,240 Yeah. 208 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,440 And now you have one. 209 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:06,440 So now it's like you have to have all the others. 210 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,240 And now I have to get them all. 211 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,240 Yeah. 212 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,240 And I have two. 213 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,960 So now I'm like I need the Yule one because Yule's coming up. 214 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,320 It's nice because they're mass market. 215 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,840 So you're not like there's no like, oh my God, I have to get this before the Kickstarter 216 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,920 comes out or I have to get this before they sell out because they're only doing one print 217 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:25,920 run or something. 218 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:26,920 You know, right. 219 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:34,480 Those always make me kind of I live for certain thrills. 220 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:35,480 Deadlines are not one of them. 221 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,640 It is not a thrill I enjoy. 222 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,520 I don't like that feeling of they call it FOMO fear of missing out. 223 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:43,520 I don't like it. 224 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:48,840 And usually if I feel that pressure, I'm the type of person that will just sit there and 225 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:54,280 live in that pressure for like a few minutes or however long I need to process it. 226 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,880 And then I'm like, no, I can't make decisions with this. 227 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:58,880 So, right. 228 00:12:58,880 --> 00:12:59,880 What will happen? 229 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:00,880 Yeah, I go ahead. 230 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:01,880 Oh, go ahead. 231 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:02,880 No, it's OK. 232 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:03,880 Go ahead. 233 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:08,240 Oh, I was going to say I just because I think it has to do with like growing up poor is 234 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,520 just like if somebody is pressuring me into buying something, I'm just not going to do 235 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,240 it because I feel like it's a scam. 236 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,320 Yeah, like, you know what I mean? 237 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:21,520 I felt that way about the green glyphs box set that they're coming out with. 238 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:27,400 They just ended the Kickstarter on it and it's the green. 239 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:28,400 I'll look up who it is. 240 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:29,400 Hold on. 241 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,400 I was going to say what's green glyphs? 242 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,640 I have no idea what you're talking about. 243 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,440 Did you share this with us? 244 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:41,240 Yeah, I shared it like a video about it that Lisa Pappas did where she was really excited 245 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:42,240 about it. 246 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,960 How long ago was that? 247 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,480 Maybe like two or three weeks. 248 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:54,080 It's by James R. Eads and he he already did a green glyphs Lenorman deck, which I like 249 00:13:54,080 --> 00:14:00,360 that a lot because so he color codes the Lenorman deck. 250 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:11,640 So red or orangey hues are more like like struggle cards and then like I think green 251 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:18,520 or blue is neutral and then yellow is like more like good stuff is going to happen cards, 252 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:23,040 which I think would be really good because I'm still like learning the Lenorman system. 253 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,640 I don't use it very often. 254 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:34,880 And they also have Lenorman traditionally has a man and a woman card and the green glyphs 255 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,360 tarot he replaces that with person cards. 256 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,760 So person one and person two cards, which I really like. 257 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:47,960 Like I said, I try to de gender the thing so that I can have a more broad understanding, 258 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,480 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 259 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:50,480 Right. 260 00:14:50,480 --> 00:15:00,160 But so he had this green glyphs Lenorman and now he made matching tarot oracle and rune 261 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:05,960 deck with rune dice that are like copper looking. 262 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,820 And then it's all in this like beautiful box set. 263 00:15:09,820 --> 00:15:15,640 And then the book is like I think it's the book for all of them all in one bound book. 264 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:20,860 And it's like just a gorgeous set in this nice little box. 265 00:15:20,860 --> 00:15:24,280 And it's just like really hitting all those buttons. 266 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:30,500 It's not I'll it's not 100% like my normal art style. 267 00:15:30,500 --> 00:15:36,680 But I do think it's good to have like a variety of art styles in your collection just to kind 268

00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,700 of like give you something to expand on. 269 00:15:40,700 --> 00:15:49,480 And I think it's good for like I know like there are certain times where I want to use 270 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,620 like a happy go lucky deck. 271 00:15:51,620 --> 00:15:59,360 But I think further down the line, I might be more into a less cheerful, happy go lucky 272 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,080 deck. 273 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:05,000 So I think it's good to have those for like your different moods and stuff like that. 274 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,280 Oh yeah. 275 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:14,760 So the only time that artwork becomes an issue with me is if it's so not my aesthetic that 276 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:24,080 it's distracting in a sort of deck where I'll be like there's this one artist and they're 277 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,920 really popular. 278 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:31,960 I think it's like Stephanie something but they draw like people it's almost like chibi 279 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,760 like big heads. 280 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,360 But they're always it's almost like gothic. 281 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,800 Like, yeah, I know you're talking about. 282 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:49,440 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like, I, like, you know, I hope they're obviously they've 283 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:54,640 gotten really popular and they sell a whole bunch of stuff and I'm like, get your money, 284 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:55,640 honey. 285 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,640 I'm like, I'm gonna go for it. 286 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:58,640 But I can't stand it. 287 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,040 I can't stand that that art style. 288 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:06,400 And so I'll never buy a deck from that because the artwork is so distracting to me because 289 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,000 it's so not my aesthetic that yeah. 290 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,000 Pacholi. 291 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,000 Yes. 292 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,000 Pacholi. 293 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,920 Writers, write in or listeners write in. 294 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,920 Writers can write in too. 295 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,400 Writers, all of them. 296 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,400 I think I think Nicoletta is Italian. 297 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,440 I only know how to say her first name correctly. 298 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:32,960 So, so, Charlie, double C's makes a sound. 299 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:33,960 Yes, Charlie. 300 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:34,960 So, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie. 301 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:35,960 I don't know. 302 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:36,960 Right in. 303 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:45,960 But I think is that who you're talking about that that like, yeah, it's like a little girl 304 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,520 kind of like really big head. 305 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:49,520 Yes. 306 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:54,040 It's like it's like gothic chibi Lolita sort of vibe. 307 00:17:54,040 --> 00:18:00,760 And like, yeah, you know,

and, you know, I remember when they just first started putting 308 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,680 out artwork and now they've like boomed. 309 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,520 And so like, I'm really happy for them. 310 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,920 But it's one of those things where if somebody like gifted me a deck from them, I would never 311 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,760 be able to use it because the artwork is so distracting. 312 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:15,760 It's haunting. 313 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:16,760 Yeah. 314 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,680 And it's like, but I kind of like that. 315 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,480 Like, that's what that's one thing I like about the Samhain Oracle is how haunting it 316 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:23,480 is. 317 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:24,480 Exactly. 318 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:30,920 And even the Samhain, Season of the Witch Samhain deck is not really my aesthetic either. 319 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:35,800 But I like the artwork enough and it's jarring enough, which makes sense for Samhain for 320 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,600 me that, you know, I connect to it really easily. 321 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:44,400 But and then I have other decks where it's like, oh, I'm just like drooling over the 322 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,400 artwork. 323 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,000 I'm like, oh, I got to get this. 324 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,640 And then in Oracle that you gave me, that's how I am about that. 325 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,120 That artwork is just like gorgeous. 326 00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:54,120 It's so good. 327 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:55,600 You want to just throw up like that. 328 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:56,600 Yeah. 329 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:57,600 How even? 330 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,000 How did a human being do this? 331 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,000 Right. 332 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,000 They're just so beautiful. 333 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:08,840 And I have an Art Nouveau Tarot deck that I absolutely love. 334 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:09,840 It's gilded. 335 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:10,840 It's beautiful. 336 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,120 I drool over it. 337 00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:13,440 Can I read it very well? 338 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,720 No, because I'm really bad with tarot. 339 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,400 Because tarot is not my medium. 340 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:19,640 Oh, I'm pretty good at tarot. 341 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:20,960 I can try and read with it. 342 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,360 I like tarot. 343 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:27,880 So I think we've talked about this before, but I'm like a tarot over Oracle. 344 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:33,800 I try to like use them both, but I like the structure of tarot because you know Mia, I 345 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,720 just like a nice structure to follow. 346 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:36,720 I like rules. 347 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,480 I like knowing what's happening. 348 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:45,240 And Oracle decks, I feel like are a lot of like, you know, a lot of them do really rely 349 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:51,400 on because some of them are just images or just one keyword, which, you know, if that 350 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:56,320 works for you and I feel like it really worked, that kind of deck works for Brittany a lot 351 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:01,680 better because Brittany is very intuitive and very trusting of her intuition versus 352 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:06,520 me where I am very distrustful of my intuition. 353 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:07,520 Right. 354 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,240 You have reassurance with the tarot. 355 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,240 Yeah. 356 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,080 Where you're like, okay, well, this is what this means upright. 357 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,720 This is what it means reversed. 358 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,320 And I know that this is what this suit and this card means. 359 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:24,120 So therefore I can apply it to like my situation really easily. 360 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:29,840 And whereas for me, it's too confining, especially depending on who I'm channeling when I'm doing 361 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:36,720 readings, because if I'm channeling something that is literally out of this world, that's 362 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:37,720 always fun. 363 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,240 Then like trying to use something like tarot, it can't apply. 364 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,240 It's too constraining. 365 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,240 Right. 366 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,600 And so that's whenever I'll have to use something. 367 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:52,040 With let's say the Kwan Yin Oracle, that artwork gives you a lot that you can look at, even 368 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,840 if you don't even... 369 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,280 The deck, Brittany and I have the same deck. 370 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,040 At the deck, we have the... 371 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:05,200 There's a small paragraph on the back with a meaning and then the picture on the one 372 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,200 side. 373 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:13,520 So you could just read the pictures, which is a very intuitive way to read Oracle cards 374 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,840 is just on picture alone. 375 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:17,840 Right. 376 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,640 But yeah. 377 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:27,080 So I prefer to always go in with my intuition, no matter what system I'm using. 378 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:33,600 And then if I'm working with tarot, then after I do the intuition part, I'll back up what 379 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:40,480 I am seeing and make those connections to the system's rules, structures, what have 380 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,480 you. 381 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:42,480 Yeah. 382 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:49,080 So you're more somebody who has the tool fit your intuition, rather your intuition fit 383 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,080 the tool. 384 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,080 Sure. 385 00:21:51,080 -->

00:21:52,080 I think so. 386 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:57,080 You go in with your intuition and then depending... 387 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,600 I'll always go in with my intuition. 388 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:06,480 And then depending on what tool you're using, whether it's tarot or Oracle, you will then 389 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:11,240 interpret your intuition within the confines and rules of that tool. 390 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,240 I will and I won't. 391 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,240 Right. 392 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,360 I'll write down what my first thoughts are intuition wise. 393 00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:23,000 And then I'll think about the structure and then I will find those connections. 394 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,000 Right. 395 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,000 So it's not... 396 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:30,600 But I will think about everything involved and then you kind of summarize it together. 397 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:31,600 Right. 398 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,600 So it's a little bit different than... 399 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:33,600 Yeah. 400 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,240 You use it like layers. 401 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,560 You layer your intuition with a layer of the... 402 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:39,560 Yeah, layers. 403 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:40,560 More layers. 404 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:41,560 It's another cake. 405 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,560 It's another cake. 406 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,560 It's another cake. 407 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,560 More cake. 408 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:45,560 Listen. 409 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,560 I love my sweets. 410 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:47,560 So... 411 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:48,560 Yeah. 412 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,560 I was going to say, now I want cake. 413 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:52,560 Yeah. 414 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,760 I feel like we should have like, now I want cake merch. 415 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:56,760 Yeah. 416 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:57,760 I want cake. 417 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,520 And I just finished my... 418 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:07,520 I got a fancy coffee today and it was from a local coffee place that's not too far from 419 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,960 here and it was called like, Extreme Choco Latte. 420 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:12,960 Yes. 421 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,200 And it is so good and it's gone. 422 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,200 And I'm sad. 423 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,200 I'm really sad. 424 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,200 Next time get a bigger one. 425 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,200 That's how you have to like appreciate it. 426 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,200 That's too small to be a large. 427 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:35,280 Saying that part of me is like, I'm wondering what I would have to do to get a short husband 428 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,280 to make me some tea because I want something. 429 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,880 Oh, as she says it, he's in the background. 430 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:48,240 Listen, I want everyone to know that I know I'm spoiled and I'm okay with it. 431 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,280 The best part about being spoiled is spoiling other people. 432 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,280 Right? 433 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,280 So yeah. 434 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,280 That was like, okay, tangent. 435 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,000 Here we go. 436 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:05,520 So this year is the first year I'm actually able to do stuff from an angel tree. 437 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,120 What do you mean? 438 00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:11,040 So an angel tree is where it's like, it's a Christmas tree you'll see in lots of stores 439 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,000 or restaurants or something and it has like paper ornaments or something on it. 440 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:20,840 And on there it'll have written like, a child or a minor or even a family who needs stuff 441 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,600 and it'll write down what they need. 442 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:29,600 And so you just pick whichever you want and then go get all that stuff. 443 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,000 And then you give it to the associate along with the little paper ornament. 444 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:39,880 It has to be new and it has to be unwrapped because then they, for safety purposes and 445 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:40,880 everything else. 446 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,640 But this year is the first year that I'm financially stable enough. 447 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:52,880 I'm knocking on wood so hard right now that I get to do the angel tree. 448 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:59,760 And so I picked two of them and I always try to pick, or since it's my first year, I always 449 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:06,320 thought in my head that if I do it, I'd pick the older kids because they often get overlooked. 450 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,040 But there was two that really stood out to me. 451 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:13,240 One of them was they want a mini backpack purse. 452 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,720 And I was like, I was like, oh, yes. 453 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,160 I was like, oh girl, I got you. 454 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,040 I got you. 455 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,200 And then the second one was anything she hulk and I was like, oh, okay. 456 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,880 Yeah, sounds very cool. 457 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:26,880 Yes, my good bitch. 458 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:33,360 And so I picked that one and tall has been picked out the she hulk one because he was 459 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:38,520 like, yes, we need to get this. 460 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,080 So I'm really, really excited about that. 461 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,840 And it has absolutely nothing to do with anything we were talking about. 462 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,600 But tis the ADHD way. 463 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,000 It is the way. 464 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,680 Yeah, you know, Disney is doing all these tarot and Oracle decks now. 465 00:25:55,680 --> 00:26:01,960 So well, I don't know if it's Disney

or the inside additions. 466 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:08,600 Yeah, but they have to be licensed through Disney because they're using all of the, you 467 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:14,960 know, names and imagery from copyrighted stuff because Disney is the main reason we have 468 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,760 such ridiculous copyright things. 469 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,760 Yeah. 470 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:19,760 Yeah. 471 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,360 I love I love and hate Disney at the same time. 472 00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:28,600 Yeah, I have I have mixed feelings about Disney, but so much. 473 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,600 So I'm going to still going to mooch that Disney Plus off of my friend. 474 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:33,600 Oh, my God. 475 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,080 Yeah, I love Disney Plus. 476 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,560 I got my mom on to it, too. 477 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:42,520 And so the other day she messaged me and she was like, hey, and this is okay, because this 478 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,520 is how my mom is. 479 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,520 She's wonderful. 480 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,520 But she's like, it's okay. 481 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:51,280 And she was like, was I only a guest on the Google Plus for or Google, the Disney Plus 482 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,280 for a little while? 483 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,520 And I was like, no, you should still be able to access it. 484 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,520 And she says, well, it says that I can't. 485 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:04,640 And I'm like, okay, it turned out that it was still using a card that had expired. 486 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,720 And then it was just like, oh, well, I guess you just don't get it now. 487 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:08,720 So then I restarted it. 488 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,160 And she's like, thank you so much. 489 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,960 I'm so sorry for bothering you about it. 490 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,040 And I was like, mom, it's seven bucks a month. 491 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,660 You don't need to apologize. 492 00:27:17,660 --> 00:27:20,080 You can watch it all you want. 493 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,000 She's just funny that way. 494 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,680 All she did was raise and clothe you and take care of you. 495 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:32,800 And I was like, mom, that's not a big deal. 496 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,200 But I was really, really excited about the Angel Tree thing. 497 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:43,960 I used to do that a lot before our lives changed a little bit more with all the inflation now. 498 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,560 Oh, God. 499 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,560 Yeah. 500 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,800 So I've been slowly purchasing. 501 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,200 I should be purchasing Christmas presents more. 502 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:59,560 But I've been slowly purchasing Thanksgiving and Christmas item food and just prepping 503 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,580 it and then freezing

it and then being like, oh, I'm good to go. 504 00:28:03,580 --> 00:28:13,200 Because I know for a god dang fact that starting this week, you better get your shit because 505 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,200 it's going to be chaos. 506 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,560 It's going to be absolute fucking chaos. 507 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,560 And I was like, yeah. 508 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,800 Did Thanksgiving sneak up on everybody else or was it just me? 509 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:27,400 Because I looked at the calendar and I went, what do you mean two weeks till Thanksgiving? 510 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,400 Yes. 511 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:39,480 So since I had COVID for Halloween, I'm still super sad about it, but I'm letting it go. 512 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,040 Throwing myself in the next thing to be excited about. 513 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:48,080 But since I didn't actually have the big Halloween hurrah, my brain hasn't registered that it's 514 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,760 done. 515 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,880 And so one part of my brain is like, yeah, it's November. 516 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,380 We're looking forward to Thanksgiving. 517 00:28:55,380 --> 00:28:56,380 This is so great. 518 00:28:56,380 --> 00:29:00,840 And another part of my brain is like, but we didn't have Halloween. 519 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,600 Well technically you can still celebrate it all the way until the 20th if you reference 520 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,080 our Samhain episode. 521 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,080 Yeah. 522 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,080 But yeah. 523 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,080 So anyways, Oracle cards. 524 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,080 They're great. 525 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,640 I love them. 526 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,480 I derailed everyone with that tangent. 527 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,480 I'm like, come with me. 528 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:20,480 Here we go. 529 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:29,760 I do think we forgot to mention last week that these are our bread episodes and then 530 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,680 Thanksgiving is in the middle of them. 531 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,000 So we're the Thanksgiving sandwich episodes. 532 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,000 Yeah. 533 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,740 So these are our bread. 534 00:29:36,740 --> 00:29:39,240 So happy Thanksgiving. 535 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:44,800 We hope everybody had a great holiday celebrating it however you enjoy. 536 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:45,800 Enjoy. 537 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:46,800 Enjoy. 538 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,080 Yes, that's correct. 539 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,080 Celebrating it. 540 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,840 I said it and then it didn't feel right. 541 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,480 Well we're on a podcast so you can re-say it and I can edit it out. 542 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:56,480 That's great. 543 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,480 That's fine. 544 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,240 Although part of me is like leave that in there because somebody will find it funny 545 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,720 and somebody else will find it so annoying that they'll scream. 546 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:10,320 You know, you're not the podcast for them. 547 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,080 Not everything is for everybody and if we're not for you, that's okay. 548 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,080 We're okay with that. 549 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,080 You're okay with that. 550 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,080 And that's fine. 551 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,440 I don't think they'd be this far in if they found us that annoying. 552 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,480 You know, you would think but then there's people who I don't understand these type of 553 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,080 people. 554 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:36,480 I don't understand the type of people that will absolutely dislike a type of video or 555 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,120 like a genre or whatever. 556 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,120 Hate watch it? 557 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,400 Yeah and then they hate watch it and I'm like I have a question for you. 558 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,400 I'm a hate watcher. 559 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,000 Where did you get the time? 560 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,560 That's what I want to know. 561 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,040 You don't leave horrible mean comments on shit. 562 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,040 I don't. 563 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:58,880 I don't comment about it but like homesteading videos, I got really into that one time and 564 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:05,120 like all I could do is watch them and it was this like family and they were like talking 565 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:11,240 about homeschooling their children and they moved to a specific state because it had the 566 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,400 most lax homeschooling laws. 567 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,400 Wow. 568 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,400 That's gross. 569 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:23,880 And yeah and like just I would just hate watch it so hard and I just couldn't stop myself. 570 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:24,880 What is wrong with me? 571 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,240 Listeners, if you know what's wrong with me write in. 572 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,240 Thank you. 573 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,520 We talked about this before we started recording. 574 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,520 We know what's wrong with you, Shelley. 575 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,520 It's fine. 576 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:40,560 But yeah like I'm just like okay so you took time out of your day, out of your precious 577 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:49,680 short life, this popcorn fart worth of time on this planet and you know you took, you 578 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:57,400 decided to utilize that time to watch something you knew you didn't like and you wouldn't 579 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:04,680 like and wrote an extremely hateful gross disgusting comment and the only reason you 580 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:10,000 did that is because of the anonymity of a scream and you're not

saying it to somebody's 581 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:16,800 face and that's what you chose to do with that time. 582 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,800 You know? 583 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,520 Like I just sit there and I'm like there are, you could have been so productive. 584 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,200 You could have, you could have still sat on your happy ass. 585 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,200 Or you could have been so restful. 586 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,160 You could have done the exact opposite. 587 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,160 Right. 588 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,160 You could have done the exact same thing you're doing except watch or listen to something 589 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,840 that you know you enjoy. 590 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:41,720 But yet you took the time to watch something or listen to something you knew you didn't 591 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,960 like and then you got pissy about it. 592 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:45,960 Like I'm so confused. 593 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,960 So confused. 594 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:52,680 Well I get it if it's like you first started watching it and then you thought you might 595 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,720 like it and then like you realized. 596 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,280 Well I got onto the homesteading videos because I was looking up how to compost. 597 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,280 Newsflash. 598 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,280 I didn't do either. 599 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:06,720 Like and I'm not talking about like you know if they say something really bigoted or disgusting 600 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,960 or gross that you are like hey that wasn't cool. 601 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,320 It's like you know somebody doing a cookie decoration. 602 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,320 Right. 603 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,080 Yeah being just obviously you know behind a screen being rude. 604 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,080 Right. 605 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,200 It's like oh you know you're watching somebody decorate these cookies and you go on there 606 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,040 and you're like this is really stupid. 607 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,280 It's like. 608 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,320 No it's not because I cannot get enough of them. 609 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,320 Right. 610 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,320 Those cookie decorating videos. 611 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,320 I cannot get enough. 612 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:39,160 It's like okay Joseph thanks for your unsolicited and unhelpful comment. 613 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,400 I'll log that away for later. 614 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,680 Like anyways. 615 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,680 Anyways so Oracle cards. 616 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:46,680 Oracle cards. 617 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:51,160 So it's just looking at us like. 618 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:57,440 Lauren's used to us just going on very long rants about things that bother us. 619 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:02,440 So there's different ways to use Oracle cards so you can use them you know just stand alone 620 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,640 throw them out throw them out in a spread throw them out by themselves do a little three 621 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,880 cards you know any any way you want. 622 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:15,120 Or I've seen a lot of people pair them with with like another Oracle deck or they'll pair 623 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,080 them with a tarot deck to kind of get insights. 624 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:25,960 I know I've watched a lot of videos of Lisa Pappas that Lauren introduced me to and she 625 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,640 will in the morning she'll draw an Oracle card and kind of get like a topic for the 626 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:39,680 day and then she'll draw tarot cards to see you know how to best navigate that topic throughout 627 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:40,680 the day. 628 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:46,080 What are things she can focus on what are things she can you know look at throughout 629 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:52,840 the day to figure out you know how to problem solve and stuff like that. 630 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:58,920 How else have you guys heard of other people using Oracle cards in their practice. 631 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,960 My introduction to Oracle cards was I was looking for a tarot deck. 632 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,480 This was you I mean this was. 633 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,240 Oh god like 20 and so many years ago. 634 00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:16,160 Yeah almost and I picked up a different deck that I didn't it was an earth I call it my 635 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,160 earth deck. 636 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,600 Do you remember the name of it. 637 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:26,600 No but I call it my earth deck with the same idea as you like thinking that oh Oracle it 638 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:33,920 must be a different type of tarot and it wasn't but I just kind of picked it up like that. 639 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,960 My friends use them all differently. 640 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:46,560 I have one friend who will use it and then will also like cast runes at the same time 641 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,560 you know. 642 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,760 I have an episode on runes for sure because I want to figure it out. 643 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,800 They're so that's why I want to get the green glyphs tarot box set because it comes with 644 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,720 runes and then that book looks like really you know in depth and I could use it to. 645 00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:02,720 I feel like you're still watching yourself. 646 00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:06,280 I am I am I'm really trying to talk myself into it. 647 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:14,800 I feel like oh yeah that is it earth magic by who is it by Stephen D Farmer. 648 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:20,720 Well Mr. Farmer you were my first introduction to Oracle congratulations. 649 00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:28,320 It's a great great Oracle deck though but I have another friend who hopefully will be 650

00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,200 a guest star on an episode of ours later. 651 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,400 She made her own deck. 652 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,480 Oh yeah yeah I've seen people do that. 653 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:42,560 Yeah hers is tarot but she made her own deck and I've seen lots of people lots and lots 654 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,200 of people starting to do that now. 655 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:52,120 But I have several sheets at my planner of different decks I've started. 656 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,120 Yeah is that Noodle? 657 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,320 No that's Diesel he's the big one. 658 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,720 I just had to lift him over my head so he wouldn't meow into the microphone. 659 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:07,760 Oh no he should have just in passing like as you move him over. 660 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:15,000 But I mean like pretty much everything you've mentioned is what I've seen. 661 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:21,760 I've also seen some really chaotic Oracle deck throws which has been fun where like 662 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:28,040 somebody will just take them and then they'll like just throw them like literally and then 663 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,520 with their eyes shut will be like slam and they're like this is the fucking card boom 664 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,200 it's like wow okay. 665 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:38,520 That's some high energy reading right there you know what I mean? 666 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,040 That's high energy. 667 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:49,520 You were mentioning before we started I think about people shuffling different decks together 668 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,240 and Brittany and I are both opposed to that. 669 00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:57,800 If you want to do it you should just don't do it in front of our eyeballs because it 670 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,040 hits a wrong button for us. 671 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:09,000 The idea that it would be like shuffling a person into another person I can't do that. 672 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:15,720 See for me it's the different sizes and shapes and colors and my brain goes wrong don't like 673 00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:17,600 that wrong. 674 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,440 But I've seen lots of people do it and it works really great for them and you know 10 675 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,800 10 recommend if it's something where you're like I feel like this deck and this deck go 676 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,800 together and should maybe 5 10 out of recommend. 677 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,200 5 out of 10 recommend. 678 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,760 People are creators I should say creators. 679 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,520 There are creators who will like come out with a tarot deck and then they'll come out with 680 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,840 an oracle deck or maybe even another tarot deck or vice versa. 681 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:50,560 And as long as they are the same shape size maybe even like card stock texture art would 682 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,480 be great too. 683 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:57,520 As close as possible to the other I could totally see doing that like melding the two 684 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:58,520 decks and making a mega deck. 685 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,720 That's you can do it with the green glyphs. 686 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:06,240 They're all the same size and same card stock and the backs are similar. 687 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:10,680 You can tell them apart which one it is but if you're like shuffling together you're not 688 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,180 going to notice it. 689 00:39:12,180 --> 00:39:14,480 How much is it Shelby the box. 690 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:23,720 Okay well so I missed the I missed the Kickstarter because that's oh that's what that's the whole 691 00:39:23,720 --> 00:39:29,560 reason I brought this up is because they did a Kickstarter and you know me I'm not going 692 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,200 to I'm more likely to not do it if there's a time limit. 693 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:39,760 And I and I know like this this creator James Areed's he's I mean he's had the Lenormand 694 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,040 out for a long time. 695 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:48,280 I don't think he's not going to have this available and he has it on pre-order so it's 696 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,120 a little bit more expensive if you don't do the Kickstarter. 697 00:39:51,120 --> 00:40:01,880 Right but I mean the box set is 180 so for four decks and a set of rune dice and a book 698 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,440 and the book for all of them and the nice packaging with it. 699 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:13,040 Right and it's like each deck gets its own little box in the box set and it holds a little 700 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:21,720 dice and like a cute little pocket and it hits my like organizational aesthetic and 701 00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:28,840 are you wanting us to give you permission to purchase it or are you wanting to purchase 702 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,200 it or are you wanting it I have it well I use permission in quotes like because you 703 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:37,720 know right yeah needs you what you really want is somebody to tell you that it's okay 704 00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:43,840 to tell you that you can do it are you wanting that or are you wanting us to give you sound 705 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,360 judgment on whether you should purchase it. 706 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,640 I definitely don't want sound judgment. 707 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:54,680 Okay so Lauren I already gave her my sound judgment for it. 708 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:59,680 I told her not to like fall into the trap of FOMO and if she really loved the aesthetic 709 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,320 I didn't fall into that trap. 710 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:12,440 No I'm I am only hesitant because I just don't know how well the imagery speaks to me. 711 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:18,120 I think I there's a whole bunch of imagery that I really like in it

but altogether I 712 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:23,720 don't know but I I want it real bad and I'll probably end up getting it eventually. 713 00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:28,640 But what I've been telling myself now um oh and then he even bought me my favorite spoon 714 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,480 it looks like a seashell. 715 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:37,600 Sorry that was the most 88th time it's ever happened on the podcast. 716 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,040 Sorry we're gonna need his picture of the spoon now. 717 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,040 Oh my god yeah. 718 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,040 It's my favorite spoon. 719 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,040 It's beautiful leave me alone. 720 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:56,920 Fuck what was I saying before ah okay no I have to say this pop before anything else. 721 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:01,560 What I've been doing um lately with stuff that I want to purchase but I'm kind of waffling 722 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:07,440 on it is I tell myself that Black Friday is not that far away and then Cyber Monday is 723 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:13,160 pretty much that weekend after that yeah all right and so I'm like I'll just sit on it 724 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:18,560 for now and if it if it's cheaper for Black Friday bombastic. 725 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:23,480 If it sells out before then that was fate telling me it wasn't meant to be exactly and 726 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:30,040 if it's the same price then I can continue to waffle as necessary right on said purchase 727 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:38,440 so yeah where were we we were at shuffling decks into each other so I think I think I 728 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:46,920 would be okay with shuffling those decks into each other and then when I'm done with the 729 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,360 reading immediately splitting them all back out and yeah I would do that again not keep 730 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,360 them that way. 731 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,640 Oh yeah no no thank you. 732 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,800 No uh but that's like a personal preference I you know if anybody else shuffles them all 733 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,960 together I don't I don't judge that that much. 734 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,000 Right it's your they're your cards you get to do whatever you want with your tools. 735 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,240 They're your cards you get to ruin them how you want. 736 00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:13,280 It's just personally I'm like I don't I don't like it. 737 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:19,840 Do either of you do deck modifications to any of your decks tarot or otherwise? 738 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:27,000 I won't cut them because I'm scared that I will completely ruin it um because I don't 739 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,120 that and I don't have the proper tools either way. 740 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:37,080 Uh I will edge them though where like if it's not already edged in a color I'll find the 741 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:43,760 color that I think best suits that deck aesthetically and then I will you're just like taking a 742 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,880 marker and you go around the card and you edge it. 743 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:47,880 Right yeah. 744 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,960 I'll do that. 745 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,040 What kind of marker do you use? 746 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,880 You typically want to use like an alcohol based marker it's more permanent less likely 747 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,960 to like rub off and it'll last longer. 748 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,280 The only downside with that is it's a little bit more like permanent if you accidentally 749 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,160 get it on like a face of the card. 750 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:10,160 Oh yeah. 751 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,160 So that's the only downside. 752 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:19,400 But Lauren is incredibly precise on a lot of things so I feel like her decks are still 753 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:24,640 probably just pristine looking it looks probably like a machine did her edging. 754 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,120 Oh thank you. 755 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:31,440 Do you uh do you find you have any issue with the ink bleeding? 756 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:37,200 So with some and I think it's the card stock and how the card was like put together. 757 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:43,600 Yeah because some like if I've I'll do it I will this is a tangent I would like to go 758 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:44,600 off on. 759 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,600 Yes please. 760 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:46,600 If you're gonna create. 761 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,720 Guys you guys we need to have like like it's a Lauren tangent. 762 00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:53,720 Yeah it's so rare. 763 00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:58,760 Yeah yeah yeah. 764 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:07,000 If you're gonna create a deck that isn't edged or has like wide borders that some people 765 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:14,360 don't like I just ask that you put a couple of like blank or extra cards in there that 766 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,080 we can test on before we actually do that. 767 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,080 That's all I want. 768 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:20,080 It's just like at least one. 769 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,200 Right you can put your like contact information on those you know what I mean? 770 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,560 Like put your at at Twitter handles or whatever. 771 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,600 Oh Twitter's going in down in flames. 772 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,600 Your Instagram handle. 773 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:36,520 I have no opinions about Twitter. 774 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,280 So I do I have a couple of decks that. 775 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,600 Oh I thought you meant you had a couple of opinions on Twitter that you were gonna say 776 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:43,600 I was like. 777 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,400 Oh no no no no I don't I don't do Twitter. 778 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,560 I mean I have opinions about it but I don't do it so I'm not

gonna share. 779 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:51,560 But I do have a couple of. 780 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,640 That's for a different podcast that's my other podcast. 781 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,040 Yeah Shelby's. 782 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,600 What would you even call that? 783 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,400 Shelby's tangents or. 784 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,400 Tweet defeat. 785 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:03,400 Tweet defeat. 786 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,560 That's a good one though. 787 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:11,000 Just me podcasting about the the downfall of Twitter and what makes me happy and sad 788 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,480 about all of it. 789 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:20,600 I am sad I have I have one specific friend that that likes Twitter and I'm sad that her 790 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,480 happiness is being taken away. 791 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:27,240 That's that's mainly my sadness around Twitter. 792 00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:32,440 The rest of it is just like I hope Elon Musk loses a lot of money. 793 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,240 I'll probably edit all of this out. 794 00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:37,320 Why they already know that we're. 795 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,320 I believe that I'm an anti Elon Musk. 796 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,680 I don't want the the Musk fanboys to come after us quite yet. 797 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:49,160 Let's wait till we have a hundred episodes before we let the Musk fanboys go. 798 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:54,040 I'd feel that way if Pinterest was like going down that route. 799 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,960 Right yeah if okay just as long as Elon doesn't buy Pinterest. 800 00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,720 Oh my god please no. 801 00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:00,720 Oh yeah. 802 00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:03,840 I 10 10 10 do not recommend. 803 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,800 Let us not manifest that into reality. 804 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:14,360 So what I was gonna say before that was that I do have a deck that has blood and it drives 805 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:19,120 me a little bit nuts that I did that on the edge but it's got to be the card stock and 806 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:24,400 then like yeah the cover the film or whatever they do to seal the picture onto the other 807 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:25,400 cards in the later. 808 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:32,320 I wonder if they didn't seal the edges and that's why it's bleeding. 809 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:41,440 I mean you typically don't see sealed edges and like it's already been gilded or they 810 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:42,440 put color on it. 811 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,440 Right. 812 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,400 Because then you wouldn't be able to edge it if it was sealed. 813 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,560 I don't think it would be like. 814 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,240 Well you could if you cut it off and then and then did it. 815 00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:51,240 Yeah. 816 00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:58,400 Have you watched Lisa Pappas has a video on card stock all about it. 817 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,000 Oh no I haven't watched that yet. 818 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:06,240 Oh it's very interesting extremely informative highly recommend. 819 00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:07,640 She goes over like the cores. 820 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:13,860 I didn't know all of these cards had cores in them or if they don't have a core then 821 00:48:13,860 --> 00:48:16,120 they're called art paper. 822 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,640 A core. 823 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:25,840 The core then would be what causes the bleeding because no it's not sealed around the art 824 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:26,840 paper. 825 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,080 So like it'll be like a black. 826 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,800 You got to watch the video because she can explain this far more eloquently than I can. 827 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:39,200 But basically like there's different cores so there's like black blue white and then 828 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:46,520 no core and so black is like the strongest core and if you hold it up to light this is 829 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,200 what they use in casinos. 830 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,840 So if you hold it up to light you can't see anything on the other side. 831 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:52,840 Oh. 832 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:59,040 Blue core blue core is a little bit not as good and like you would have to take like 833 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,120 a flashlight really close to it to see what's on the other side. 834 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:07,480 So it has to do with opacity. 835 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:18,160 Yeah and then and then it's a lot of decks nowadays are technically printed on art paper 836 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,680 not card stock. 837 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:28,080 And then but like so the weight of the card stock is in grams per square meter. 838 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,800 So the GSM of the card stock is like how thick it is. 839 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:39,400 But then depending on what they coat it with it could be you know a lot stiffer like even 840 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:46,440 a lighter GSM could be a lot stiffer than something coated in something like less stiff 841 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,360 but thicker card stock. 842 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,760 There's a whole mess of things that goes into it. 843 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,560 All I learned from that well I learned all of that from that video and then what I learned 844 00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:03,360 about myself is that I want everything to be in linen coated card stock. 845 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,320 So that's my message to creators. 846 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,160 I like linen. 847 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:12,520 So extra cards maybe three or four extra cards in linen card. 848 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,400 We could probably even have like a whole podcast based off of this. 849 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:21,680 Like we should all just watch that video and then we'll make our notes and share our opinions. 850 00:50:21,680

--> 00:50:24,680 Yeah I mean this podcast is also just our opinions. 851 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:25,680 Well that's true. 852 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,680 I was like we could just have an opinion podcast. 853 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,680 Wait a second we already have. 854 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,800 Brittany what do you think we are doing currently? 855 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,640 What do you think I just said about Elon Musk? 856 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:36,640 It wasn't a fact. 857 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:43,720 So I was gonna say I like linen and I like how it looks on linen but when I use my tiny 858 00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:48,000 hands to do shuffling with linen it makes it thicker. 859 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,000 So it's harder. 860 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,240 Me and my tiny hands. 861 00:50:55,240 --> 00:51:04,520 I have pretty big hands for a lady and I still have trouble shuffling and Brittany I don't 862 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:11,160 know okay when we were at your house I think this last time we were at your house it was 863 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:16,360 like the spring or summer over summer. 864 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:21,240 Because you have a bunch of oracle decks that are really big and I was like how do you even 865 00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:26,320 shuffle and you turned it like upright and shuffled it upright. 866 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:30,640 I was like it blew my mind. 867 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:31,760 I didn't know you could do that. 868 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,520 It had to be on its side I thought. 869 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:35,520 No it doesn't. 870 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,680 It doesn't have to be on its side. 871 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:42,560 I'm just very static apparently in my ideas of shuffling. 872 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:43,560 That's alright. 873 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,800 My niece what she does is she actually will put them on a table face down and then she 874 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:51,200 will spread them all out and just kind of like um. 875 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,200 Pick one. 876 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,240 Yeah well do it like yeah I do like in circles and she'll kind of like mess them up a little 877 00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:58,880 bit and then she'll pick one up from there. 878 00:51:58,880 --> 00:51:59,880 Yeah. 879 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,280 Because she can't shuffle either. 880 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:03,280 So yeah. 881 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:04,280 I don't. 882 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:05,840 I like to riffle shuffle. 883 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,760 That's my ideal. 884 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:18,080 But I do have a deck that the you know how when they come in their little boxes sometimes 885 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,480 they'll split the deck in half and put the two halves on the thing and then the book 886 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:23,480 on top. 887 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:24,480 Yes. 888 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:25,480 I don't like those. 889 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:26,480 Yes. 890 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:27,480 None of my. 891 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:28,480 I don't like it when they do that. 892 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,480 None of my oracle decks have done that so I have no idea what you're talking about. 893 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:41,320 One of my tarot decks was like that and one half of them was like maybe like a millimeter 894 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:47,240 bigger than the other one and they don't shuffle right because they're not all the same size. 895 00:52:47,240 --> 00:52:49,360 Oh I hate that. 896 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:56,160 That is what has turned me off of doing any deck modifications to my deck with like cutting. 897 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,520 I think edging would be fine because that doesn't affect it but I'd be too afraid to 898 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:04,160 cut it in because it's just going to be so hard to shuffle after that and I do really 899 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,320 love a nice little riffle shuffle. 900 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:12,000 I do think it's important to note that I don't have any objections to other people modding 901 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,760 their own decks. 902 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:18,640 Some people say like oh you know it's the creator you're ruining what the creator did 903 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,040 and doing it. 904 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,320 It's your own deck you bought it. 905 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:22,920 You can do it. 906 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,720 It's a mass printed deck. 907 00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:25,720 It's not a big deal. 908 00:53:25,720 --> 00:53:30,360 You can go to a museum and do a deck modification on like the original tarot deck and you're 909 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:31,360 fine. 910 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:36,040 Anything other than that you're fine is my opinion. 911 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:42,480 I've never even considered modifying my decks so that's like you were talking about the 912 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,520 shuffling thing for me. 913 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:49,800 Like I was like wait a minute you can modify your deck and I was like duh and I was like 914 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,360 oh yeah you can do that. 915 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,080 Yeah it's big on the YouTubes right now. 916 00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:03,520 A lot of people Boho Tarot on YouTube she does a lot of deck mods that are I mean she's 917 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:11,760 really good at it and so some people will like add paint to their cards even just to 918 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:16,480 like you know like bring out pops of color or change like a you know a color in their 919 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:21,560 aesthetic that they don't like or something you know anything. 920 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:28,880 My cat has come to entertain the ladies and it's so funny because it's a black kitty and 921 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:33,520 she's holding them in a way that they're in the shadow so it just looks like shadow and 922 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,480 then these two big green eyes.

923 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,000 His green eyes he looked kind of mad for a second too. 924 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,120 Well he is a kitty. 925 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,160 Lauren how do you like to use Oracle decks? 926 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:46,160 Do you pair them? 927 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,080 Do you use them standalone? 928 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:54,440 I'll pair it with like yeah I'll pair it with another tarot deck generally if I'm just doing 929 00:54:54,440 --> 00:55:00,400 a quick spread I might like if I'm doing a quick tarot spread I might pull an Oracle 930 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:06,880 card to like kind of summarize or wrap up the whole reading or for extra guidance on 931 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,200 the spread I just did. 932 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:17,080 I like to do sometimes if I do a bigger reading I'll mix different Oracle decks together. 933 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:24,760 Again aesthetically I kind of like to keep it together in the same aesthetic or color. 934 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,840 It feels like it flows better personally. 935 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:34,320 I have done it with like different different art styles to see like how I feel about it 936 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,360 because I know you know all the YouTubers or whatever I watch will try and like match 937 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:43,480 art styles and I was like well let's see what happens if I don't it's very jarring it feels 938 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:49,640 like you're talking to like a devil and an angel on your shoulder like extremely different 939 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:53,640 people you know what I mean and it's like that would make a really good reading though 940 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:59,520 it would maybe yeah yeah it'll give you two sides of the story and I'm I'm over here like 941 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:06,360 but I need it I need a decision though I should make a decision you've made very good points. 942 00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:11,280 I was gonna tell you Lauren have you ever considered doing color magic or have you done 943 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:18,720 it before? I can't love color theory. I did like this in college I did a paper in my freshman 944 00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:23,240 year college is that a thing do we say freshman year anyways yeah yeah it's freshman okay 945 00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:28,480 it's been a while. I did a paper on color theory and my teacher looked at me like I 946 00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:34,480 had four heads he's like this is a thing and I'm like yes yeah color theory is great. Oh 947 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:39,000 my gosh yeah now I'm gonna have to write that on the episode list I didn't know that was 948 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:46,400 a thing yeah also can you send me that paper oh my god I don't know if I could find it. 949 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,520 I'm kidding you don't have to do that I just have to write a new one. The way that you 950 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:55,920 talk about like color and all that stuff

like that um it just you know I had a moment where 951 00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:00,720 it was like I feel like you should really look into color magic yeah and see how you 952 00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:08,760 can. For listeners I went to art school for college and so and I majored in interior design 953 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:19,760 and so color is a is a big thing in that field it can it sets the mood for the space so this 954 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:26,440 is why I'm a big advocate for color theory or psychology because I think it really does 955 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:34,600 play into your atmosphere and if you're in the atmosphere that makes you feel good right 956 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:41,600 then that affects you right right and vice versa. Oh he did meow yeah he's meow oh did 957 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:49,760 he pick up yeah twice yeah oh we're gonna have to put you on the podcast oh my goodness 958 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:56,160 yeah but um you mentioned that and I was like I really think that you should look into color 959 00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:00,920 mad or using color theory like in your magic and in your practice because I think that 960 00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:06,520 you could do a lot of since you resonate with it so much I feel like your stuff could have 961 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:12,520 a lot more like um results or like whatever you're trying to do. I use it intuitively 962 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:19,240 already when it comes to like reading cards or I know there's so many like different divination 963 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:24,440 tools or divination how right how you would say it and so I already just naturally do 964 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:30,880 that with color in general yeah well now I'm gonna do a whole episode on it so get ready 965 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:39,520 um what were we talking about any final thoughts any final thoughts before we do our lightning 966 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:46,480 round of uh oracle cards um I will say oh I guess I can talk about it in the lightning 967 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:52,800 room go ahead I'm gonna say is oracle is so broad and I think that's what I love about 968 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:59,080 that is there's so many different facets and topics that one could go into you can mix 969 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:06,280 topics you could just focus on one there's just so many and that's what I love about 970 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:12,600 it is the options that come with it they're very versatile yeah you know it's one of those 971 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:23,520 things that um my only advice for oracle cards is don't put yourself in a box um if you uh 972 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:30,000 get my advice with oracle cards is um don't put yourself in a box um definitely explore 973 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:36,640 um if you feel called to a particular deck um and you're not really and you're not really 974 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:43,360 sure why um if you have the means get it it's it's very strange sometimes the tool

will 975 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:49,200 come to you and you won't know what to do with it and then you'll just like fly with 976 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:56,880 it and you know and it's really great so I guess uh I'm an advocate for experimentation 977 00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:01,600 especially with oracle because it kind of lends itself to that I feel like oracles are 978 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:08,160 really good introduction to divinatory tools um because like lauren said there's just all 979 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:15,760 kinds and um you know the podcaster is eventually going to go over all of them one day uh there's 980 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:23,280 something for everyone yeah yeah um but you know until we get there um you know some of 981 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:31,920 them can be like pretty into like uh runes are I mean you know it's just a memorizing 982 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:38,160 of the symbol and the meaning and stuff trying to to but and and that's what you know tarot 983 01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:42,560 is a lot of um right you know figuring out what the meanings are based on the pictures 984 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:49,520 um but oracle decks kind of are a nice introduction because it tells you everything you need to 985 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:56,480 know on the card and then you can get more information from the book I I like decks that 986 01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:02,880 are like the sauan oracle where um it has like a poem so it's not necessarily a meaning 987 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:09,280 written on the card but just like a poem that kind of gives you a vibe um and then they 988 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:15,120 and then they have the title of the card with the image so you can read the title get something 989 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,800 from that you can get you know what you want from the image and then what you want from the 990 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:27,600 poetry and then um you know you can read in in the book itself to see you know exactly what 991 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:36,400 that author wanted to say um and I was I have something if you want to go first I'm crossing 992 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:42,640 my fingers to remind me no you go first um I was gonna do like a little side note for what you 993 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:48,400 just said there are some like creators that will have more of a a system or a structure to their 994 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:55,040 oracle decks like you know you have your lennorman that's categorized as a oracle deck that still 995 01:01:55,040 --> 01:02:03,680 has a little bit more of a structure and a set of rules and there's even runes that are put onto 996 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:10,880 cards for cardomancy that are labeled as oracle decks that's the green glyphs box set has a set 997 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:19,040 of dice runes and card runes and it does that too where um it color codes like the meanings of the 998 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:26,960 cards too right um for their oracle deck too um so like red's

not you know the challenges you might 999 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:33,520 face and then green is like you know blessings you might come upon or whatever how many 1000 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:40,240 times have she said that so many times okay I feel like she just really wants it now so I feel like 1001 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:48,560 I feel like listeners if you really want to have fun um make this episode a drinking game where 1002 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:55,520 every time Shelby mentions green glyphs that's what I'm gonna put on the instagram the green glyphs 1003 01:02:55,520 --> 01:03:02,240 drinking game oh man if Shelby if Shelby turns down practical advice you have to chug your drink 1004 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:10,720 right um but yeah I agree with everything you guys have said plus um you know it's really great 1005 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:16,960 because usually oracle card um guidebooks will have even like suggested spreads that you can do 1006 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:23,040 so yeah I don't ever do them but you know a lot of people do 1007 01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:32,320 do this bad cat can you hear him yeah I'm gonna have to edit him out he's just making my job 1008 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:40,720 harder no he's going to blooper reel yeah um is that the okay is that the spritzer that has a 1009 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:47,200 bad ghost cat on it yes yeah I forgot to put the picture on instagram oh you can't see it 1010 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:56,080 because of the lighting oh wait there it goes yeah yeah it says bad ghost bad water it's holy water 1011 01:03:56,080 --> 01:04:03,360 it's not really holy water nobody blessed it for me so um and big cat big cat is a deity so yeah I 1012 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:08,800 mean she blessed it yeah so let's get to our lightning round questions because this is 1013 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:14,720 Brittany thought of this question and it's I think or Lauren um it's my favorite if you could make 1014 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:20,000 an oracle deck what would the theme be Brittany came up with that one and it is good yeah well 1015 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:30,160 thank you guys uh Lauren go first yeah I feel like I would kind of like merge all the different types 1016 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:37,280 of divination that I have interest in into one and it would probably come out more like a collage 1017 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:46,640 uh I don't know I I'm collageomancy I'm like a little bit of a perfectionist when it comes to art 1018 01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:53,760 so I feel like it would take me forever and a day to actually create this yeah that's fair 1019 01:04:53,760 --> 01:05:02,640 but maybe you could learn that the um done is better than perfect yes I am while making it 1020 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:09,760 yeah maybe it would speed up the learning process what is this what is this madness you speak of 1021 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:16,240 well that and I want to learn more different types of definition like oh gosh what is it there's one 1022 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:23,040 where you could do like candles and it involves color but you can also like pour the wax out and 1023 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:30,400 do reading yeah in the water yeah they used to do that with lead too where you can pour lead out 1024 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:36,400 where you can pour lead out and like what into water and like whatever shape it made you could 1025 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:43,360 interpret it so yeah that's the kind that I would probably end up doing who knows maybe 20 years 1026 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:49,280 from now I'll have one we can reference this podcast and see if it is on topics well in 20 1027 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:55,120 years we better still be making episodes so oh man Lauren will Lauren will be selling her uh 1028 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:59,840 uh oracle card deck totally well Britney's gonna have to write a book by then too 1029 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:06,000 yeah what'd you say I said hopefully by then y'all would have one too as well yeah like your own 1030 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:11,360 designs and whatnot would either of you do one Britney did you think of one 1031 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:22,720 you keep thinking I think I would make mine um so this might be just topical from what I watched 1032 01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:29,120 last night but there's a person whose name I can't remember on YouTube hold on now I have to look it 1033 01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:39,040 up well I want it to make it like backyard animals um Mark Rober so I guess he used to work at NASA 1034 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:46,880 he sounds so familiar um so he I'll send you these videos I'll post them in the links below 1035 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:53,360 um he makes these videos where he does like a ninja warrior obstacle course for squirrels 1036 01:06:53,360 --> 01:07:01,360 squirrels yeah yeah my kid loves this video and I want it to be like squirrel possum raccoons like 1037 01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:09,120 those kind of like backyard animals in like backyard settings doing like weird backyard stuff 1038 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:15,120 I love that you'd have to make it more like backyard animals from like USA or something 1039 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:22,960 right from uh from our region am I allowed to say that should I bleep out Midwest it's very 1040 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:28,880 it's very broad the Midwest is like the whole like middle corridor of the United States it's 1041 01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:36,640 everything not on the coasts right exactly so it's fine yeah but um I watched those videos last night 1042 01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:43,920 and I got a little bit obsessed with fat Gus oh my god yeah you have to watch the videos they're so 1043 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:51,920 they're so good yeah it was it's fat with the pH yeah pH because it's fantastic because Gus is a 1044 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:59,760 woman pregnant so she she isn't slovenly she has a healthy appetite thank you very much 1045 01:08:00,960 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01:08:10,160 because she's yeah uh let's make it's favorite too the up or the no the fat Gus okay 1046 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:14,880 apparently there's merch that I'm gonna have to look into I've said so much that we pretend play 1047 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:21,600 this as well oh nice ninja warrior squirrel ninja warriors with squirrels yes we're squirrels and we 1048 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:27,440 pretend play and parkour throughout our house that sounds bombastic I love that 1049 01:08:29,440 --> 01:08:34,400 uh see I love how I came up with this question and then you don't have an answer I like I have no 1050 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:42,080 fucking clue um I feel like there would be a few different oracle themes that I might want to do 1051 01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:50,800 one of course would be like woodsy foresty themed because I just grab it's very vibes right I was 1052 01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:56,640 like I gravitate towards that so hardcore um but I'd want another one that is almost like 1053 01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:05,920 Victorian tea party themed yes that's extremely Britney yeah and so like I like the idea of having 1054 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:12,320 that and you know because it sounds really like frou frou but I love the idea that being super 1055 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:17,600 frou frou and then the on the outside and then the more you read into it the more you realize that 1056 01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:24,640 there's a ton of layers to it just like um etiquette was like I'm not sure what that was 1057 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:33,680 just like um etiquette was during that time it was extremely layered so I like that idea um 1058 01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:39,360 and then there was a third one that I had um so I think I would want to do one 1059 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:46,960 that I'm pretty sure has already been done in a bunch of different ways um but it would be cool 1060 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:53,680 to do one with it's like the language of flowers oh yeah yeah where because I do feel like there is 1061 01:09:53,680 --> 01:10:01,360 uh I'm sure there's time you know no but I mean like you know there is um weight in you doing it 1062 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:07,920 yourself you know what I mean like you're gonna bring your own information to it your own um 1063 01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:16,560 imagery to it so you know what one flower oracle might resonate with somebody yours might resonate 1064 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:21,680 with somebody else and I still think it's worth putting out there yeah even if there's already 1065 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:27,040 other ones out there yeah so and that goes for all of our listeners if you have an idea for an 1066 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:33,040 oracle deck and you think well maybe and other people have done it and you know just put it out 1067 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:41,760 there and we'll buy it you shall be making a lot of commitments for us we'll buy it see we'll buy 1068 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:47,680 we have a patreon exactly I was like when we have incoming cash you mean right yeah that isn't from 1069 01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:54,880 my this isn't a completely free podcast no ads even we haven't even turned on ads so uh it's a 1070 01:10:54,880 --> 01:11:03,680 very free podcast super free enjoy it while you can um what is your favorite oracle deck in your 1071 01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:09,840 collection or like if you don't have maybe one that you're like wanting to buy I'll go first 1072 01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:17,120 because this was my early bday gift to myself and I've been using it but I got this yes I have that 1073 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:22,800 one it's awesome it's the threads of fate lumen edition oracle and when they said that they were 1074 01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:28,320 going to discontinue it I had to jump on that because I was waffling over it and this is the 1075 01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:36,800 one thing that I was like yes I'm I'm buying this my birthday is coming happy fucking birthday to me 1076 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:43,840 yeah see when you have a december birthday and you have no willpower when it comes to spending 1077 01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:50,640 money because that's one of my favorite hobbies is spending money from our last episode for 1078 01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:56,800 zodiac you all should know precisely why spending money is my favorite activity 1079 01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:08,800 so I don't have a favorite oracle deck I have several that I love using um but I'm scrolling 1080 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:13,920 through my amazon wishlist because I have one in particular that I would really like to have 1081 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:20,080 um other than the seasons of the wish yeah I almost feel like that earth magic one is like 1082 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:26,880 almost like a soul deck to you because yeah it's been with you so long and you read it so well 1083 01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:34,560 yeah it just resonates so much with me um this one is oracle of the roses by 1084 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:44,320 um why is your name so tiny where's the name and as she's typing uh shalby and I are looking this 1085 01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:51,600 off yeah it's sherelyn sherelyn darcy oh I've heard of her before yeah but it's like it's got 1086 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:58,960 the victorian rose prince um absolutely love last love that one there's also um 1087 01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:04,960 sorry I'm scrolling through my amazon wishlist which is uh boisterous that's not the right word 1088 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,400 there's a lot of shit in my amazon wishlist 1089 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:19,600 I found mine on my amazon wishlist so yeah I'll say mine while you're still looking um there's 1090 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:26,960 one called the thread bound oracle I saw that and I love that one as well and I'm gonna read it 1091 01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:31,680 and I love that one as well and I think I may have seen it on the three fat readers 1092 01:13:32,480 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01:13:38,400 it made me think of you when I saw that because thread and sewing and all that the other two I 1093 01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:44,480 found them sorry so I'm going um yeah the other two that I want are is the dreamscape oracle 1094 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:53,360 um good bye I like that one too matt hughes and then there's the last unicorn tarot and I 1095 01:13:53,360 --> 01:14:00,000 don't even care that I can't read tarot I fucking love the last unicorn so I want it have you watched 1096 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:06,960 any lisa pippes videos that I've been um coming out with her own deck with yeah she's coming out 1097 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:16,480 with her own last unicorn yeah and but she has a whole spread she has a whole spread to use the 1098 01:14:16,480 --> 01:14:23,920 last unicorn deck with that she does and it's okay it's based on the story of the last unicorn 1099 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:32,720 which is um the spread is yeah yeah so I also read the the book um the last unicorn by peter beagle 1100 01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:40,880 um the movie is pretty close to that the book is really good though um and then supposedly 1101 01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:50,240 there either is a sequel or he's still writing a sequel and it's about you know the last unicorn 1102 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:58,800 thinking about like what happened to her before and like dealing with that but yeah I really want 1103 01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:03,840 this last unicorn tarot so bad I have a sailor moon tarot too and there's a whole bunch of 1104 01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:10,240 different ones um once again can't read it we're shit I try I even I'll even pull out the book 1105 01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:15,680 and be like okay this is what it means and then I'll open up self and be like self let's interpret 1106 01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:23,760 this to what's going on in our life and I get like blank just like it's like please hold your call is 1107 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:30,240 important to us I'm like anything if you read the book do you get anything from it when you do that 1108 01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:39,360 then no it's so weird because like it's just like I just don't get anything from it and so I was like 1109 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:46,000 well maybe with practice or like whatever um what's really interesting though is if I read them 1110 01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:53,760 without using the rules of tarot then it starts making sense and it'll often have absolutely 1111 01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:59,520 nothing to do with what that card actually means so britney does not like rules and shelby loves 1112 01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:05,600 rules yeah all of the rules that britney doesn't like come to me and then I get twice as many 1113 01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:12,880 rules it's very fun I love how the three of us um on various topics it's almost and it's not that 1114 01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:19,760 always the same for each of us but on various topics one will be one poll the other will be the

1115 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:24,240 other opposite poll and another person will be smacked up in the middle right with various 1116 01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:32,000 different subjects right so yeah when it comes to rules I'm like fuck you shelby is like I adore you 1117 01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:41,280 with Lauren's like depends on the rule I'll take it or leave it so I like I said I wanted that 1118 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:47,680 threadbound oracle but my current like favorite oracle deck right now and it you know I think 1119 01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:54,240 Saman was like the Saman oracle is also tied with this okay we're just gonna say tied but it's the 1120 01:16:54,240 --> 01:17:01,440 britney spears oracle yeah I can't get over okay his friend founded it target and gave it to me 1121 01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:06,960 and I was like oh this is gonna be like cute whatever fun it's actually like I read through 1122 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:13,120 the guidebook it's a well thought out guidebook the imagery is you know not not super detailed 1123 01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:20,080 but you know it's britney spears it's fun um you know I'm a millennial I love it so your backs are 1124 01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:25,040 really pretty do you listen to britney spears in the background while you're reading oh I should 1125 01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:32,400 oh so there's the backs yeah and then the here I'll just read like an example of one in the 1126 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:41,920 guidebook um I know britney is kind of a a little bit of a divisive figure right now but um you 1127 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:46,240 know just don't at me if you don't like britney then don't listen to this I guess if you don't 1128 01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:51,440 like any britney regardless of spelling don't listen to this um so like here's one it's like 1129 01:17:51,440 --> 01:17:56,720 okay the artist so like britney as an artist and it says britney's artistic talents that aren't 1130 01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:01,520 limited to music when she isn't working she loves to get in touch with her inner van go 1131 01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:06,160 and spend some time at the easel one of her flower paintings sold for ten thousand dollars 1132 01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:11,600 and proceeds went to benefit victims of the 2017 shooting in las vegas which I think she had a 1133 01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:19,040 residency there at the time too um just as she does with music and dance britney uses art to 1134 01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:25,600 express herself and never takes her work too seriously unlock your creativity and see the 1135 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:30,800 world in bright vibrant colors as the artist so I feel like it gives you like a little bit of 1136 01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:38,960 background about britney like you know the the author of the the oracle deck who is why don't 1137 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:44,880 they just clearly put who the author is I know that sounds crazy Tara Nesvig is the author and 1138 01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:52,240 it's illustrated by Helen Green um but the author is like really in like she's a uh 1139 01:18:53,680 --> 01:19:00,080 self-described britney super fan um so like she knows a lot about britney so like she can 1140 01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:06,480 you know like you know I didn't know britney painted um britney spears I should say spears 1141 01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:11,520 instead of britney because we have a britney well technically I'm britney because I'm too 1142 01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:18,400 britney yeah and she's britney but she's britney I was gonna say at your uh at your birthday party 1143 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:25,840 you should give us a reading oh always yeah because now the whole thing is gonna be I think I might 1144 01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:30,160 have a birthday party in January and I want to just have like what do you mean if it's not too 1145 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:34,640 cold I'm already planning for it you should you should plan for it and what's the theme 1146 01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:43,200 I think it's just gonna be a fun a fun time no theme no what what should listeners email in with 1147 01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:47,520 your theme you gotta choose the theme of my birthday yeah Shelby needs a theme for her birthday party 1148 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:54,160 yeah um but I want to I want to have a bonfire if it's not too cold out which it probably will be 1149 01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:59,760 every time it snows on my birthday so like I'm already waiting for it to get cancelled that's the 1150 01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:07,680 best time to have a bonfire is when it's cold yeah um but yeah I kind of want to just like sit outside 1151 01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:13,600 the it's gonna be around I guess I don't know if this is gonna no it won't triangulate but 1152 01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:19,120 it's gonna be around a full moon so I want to just like sit outside on the deck read some cards be 1153 01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:30,000 around a bonfire it'll be great hashtag solar return um let's see so we got our favorite ones 1154 01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:37,440 and then oh do you have a favorite pairing of the two that you like to do best together yes I do 1155 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:42,800 what's your favorite pairing so I have two favorite pairings my first favorite pairing is 1156 01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:54,560 um the Halloween oracle deck and the seasons of the witch salon deck oh yeah they go super well 1157 01:20:54,560 --> 01:21:01,920 together um so I really enjoy that and then my second one is the um this one Lauren you just 1158 01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:09,440 showed us that one of the threads of fate lumen yeah that one and then the um rose deck that I 1159 01:21:09,440 --> 01:21:15,360 already have do we know who that one's by I should I should probably wrap that up because it's 1160 01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:25,040 beautiful and those two go really really really well together rose oracle rebecca campbell so 1161 01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:28,880 oh

yeah yeah the rose oracle by rebecca campbell and then the threads of 1162 01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:34,880 fate one that you don't really want together yeah they go really well together and I find that they 1163 01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:42,320 bounce off of each other super well um so those are my two favorite pairings um but what will be 1164 01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:48,000 really interesting because when I read for other people I have them choose which deck speaks to 1165 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:55,600 them the most um and I will have people grab more than one deck and they'll be like both of these 1166 01:21:55,600 --> 01:22:02,160 and sometimes it'll be really strange like a pairing I wouldn't think about um but yeah so 1167 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:08,560 I have a friend he'll just get cards from like seven or eight of his decks and lay them all out 1168 01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:14,080 in different spots and he like makes you pick crystals and stuff to like set on the table 1169 01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:23,360 yeah he's he's fun really into mixing the decks it's very interesting um I know my favorite pairing 1170 01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:34,720 is probably the um Saman oracle and the crow tarot um yeah yeah I I look crow tarot by and I 1171 01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:43,760 honestly think oh I was gonna ask this earlier to you guys um crow tarot is by MJ Cullinane um 1172 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:56,320 um and she has she's coming out with a crow oracle that I want um she has like several other um 1173 01:22:57,440 --> 01:23:06,400 like animal based decks that are both oracle and tarot I love it so much I think I might 1174 01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:15,200 start getting like all of her decks and do a collection because I oh no don't do that 1175 01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:26,720 Shelby money no my money oh no I'm helping the economy oh my god oh my god um so Tangent um 1176 01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:33,040 have you guys ever watched Futurama? Yeah okay occasionally okay so I I love Futurama and so does 1177 01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:39,920 tall husband and tall husband found a credit card cover for his credit card and it's when 1178 01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:48,480 Fry is like take my money it's that image yep he's got that on his credit card so that's 1179 01:23:48,480 --> 01:23:55,360 Shelby right now right take my money yeah and I I want to pair hers with things too because I like 1180 01:23:55,360 --> 01:24:01,520 them but I I like that artist and I like her decks and I think I might end up buying too many of them 1181 01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:10,880 or gift ideas for Lauren and I or yeah providing many gift ideas so my favorite pairing out of mine 1182 01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:18,800 would be the Mystic Mondays tarot with the Threads of Fate Lumen and I'm gonna show them 1183 01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:25,200 they have like those bright colors especially with like the purple oh yeah the purple in the 1184 01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:32,480 I think the Lumen one really brings out the like and then the backs kind of even are very similar 1185 01:24:32,480 --> 01:24:42,480 oh wow like the symbolism yeah they're very similar but yeah I do love I have work your light 1186 01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:49,760 oracle by Rebecca Campbell and that would go really well with it too if you're doing like oracle 1187 01:24:49,760 --> 01:25:00,640 oracle so tall husband saw the rose oracle deck by Rebecca Campbell and he was like this is 1188 01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:10,960 in this is all Brittany and then yeah and then uh the Art Nouveau tarot deck that I'm pretty sure 1189 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:16,640 I showed that to you guys when you came over right yeah yeah I saw it I know yeah short husband 1190 01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:24,240 bought me that one and the more I them like yeah last Christmas slash birthday was like oracle 1191 01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:28,720 cards I got oracle cards from all kinds of different people and I was like yes so happy 1192 01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:32,080 and then the year before that was Sailor Moon I got a whole bunch of Sailor Moon themed stuff 1193 01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:40,160 and I was like yes you have a Sailor Moon deck don't you I have one of them um I have the Sailor 1194 01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:49,360 Moon uh crystal tarot deck so the the cards are really long um and then I have another one that 1195 01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:56,240 was just by an indie artist that I ended up seeing at like a shop and I grabbed it um which was really 1196 01:25:56,240 --> 01:26:04,160 cool because it had um two 27 like each card is numbered um but it had two 27s in there and 27 is 1197 01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:11,680 one of my favorite numbers and I was just like so yeah so we made it through oracle decks you guys 1198 01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:18,720 we made through another episode yeah let's go um our next topic is going to be tarot basics which 1199 01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:24,720 I'm very ready for I'm so excited I've made a spreadsheet weeks and weeks ago about it I'm so 1200 01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:32,000 happy um remember to always email your questions comments stories and more to charmed and alarmed 1201 01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:39,920 at gmail.com and follow us on instagram and facebook at charmed underscore alarmed um you 1202 01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:45,280 don't have to support us on patreon yet because we don't have one and remember to rate and review 1203 01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:50,400 and subscribe to our podcast it really helps us out finding other people like you who want to listen 1204 01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:57,200 to our spooky stuff um thank you so much for listening I'm Shelby I'm Lauren and I'm Brittany 1205 01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:03,760 and we are charmed and alarmed 1206 01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:27,440 you 1207 01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:58,000 you 1208 01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:28,000 you 1209 01:28:57,200 --> 01:28:58,000 you 1210 01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:28,000 you 1211 01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:58,000 you 1212 01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:28,000 you 1213 01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:57,280 you