The Aquarius/Leo Nodes With Dabney Lawless의 전체 녹취록

00:02:33.919 fix it mode as we start the month, she's still 35 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:38.000 kind of in the cleanup crew mode and an analytical 36 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:41.560 let's see how it can make things better mode. Towards 37 00:02:41.599 --> 00:02:44.520 the end of the week, she moves into one of 38 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:48.680 her home signs, Libra, and then when Mercury moves into 39 00:02:48.960 --> 00:02:51.599 Leo next week, especially at the end of the weekend, 40 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:56.120 we're going to find that there's an air of sociability 41 00:02:56.199 --> 00:02:58.800 of people wanting to interact and do things with each 42 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:03.319 other and maybe buring out ways they can actually get along. 43 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:07.199 Venus is also going to be interacting with this outer 44 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:12.439 planet configuration, and now our relationships and our desires and 45 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:16.840 our values are going to start to also reshape themselves 46 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:21.240 to match the different energies that are running through us 47 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:25.759 and in fact through all of reality. The other big news, well, 48 00:03:25.800 --> 00:03:30.159 two more things. Mercury, which rules our communication, is finally 49 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:33.879 clearing out of all that water from cancer. So his 50 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:39.800 lengthy time from his retrograde is moving into like shaking 51 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:42.560 the water off and we steam and then getting very 52 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:47.680 very high energy, leading us into eclipse season. This month 53 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:53.840 has the second of the eclipses on the Leo Aquarius axis. 54 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:57.400 That's the Leo new Moon solar eclipse on the twelfth, 55 00:03:57.759 --> 00:04:02.680 which is a total eclipse. I see solar eclipses as 56 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:07.000 not just a super sized new moon, but basically installing 57 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:11.919 an upgraded operating system in everything things can leave. Think 58 00:04:11.960 --> 00:04:16.120 of what happens when your computer will install new software. 59 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:19.279 Very frequently it happens behind your back. You don't always 60 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:21.680 set it in motion, although sometimes you can, and the 61 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:25.839 whole system goes down briefly and something with that will happen. 62 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:30.639 People do leave under solar eclipses, and we're being catapulted 63 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:35.720 into the directions of more and more authentic self expression. 64 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:39.399 At the end of the month, the very end of 65 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:43.199 the month, we have the next to last eclipse on 66 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:46.519 the outgoing eclipse cycle, which are in the signs of 67 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:51.680 Virgo and Pisces, and it is a

lunar eclipse in Pisces, 68 00:04:52.519 --> 00:04:56.199 which I think is going to show us a lot 69 00:04:56.240 --> 00:05:00.560 about how our boundaries have overlapped with other pe people's 70 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:04.240 ways in which we've soaked up other people's stuff. We 71 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:09.360 might finally have the opportunity to come to grips with 72 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:12.959 that phrase again, that concept again, assimilate and come to 73 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:17.800 grips with the emotional ramifications of everything we've been through lately. 74 00:05:18.199 --> 00:05:23.000 Lunar eclipses do bring revelations, they do bring endings, and 75 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:27.319 this one could be somewhat bitter sweet, but it's also 76 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:30.920 part of cleaning up what we need to leave behind 77 00:05:31.639 --> 00:05:37.680 as we move ahead, which leads to today's topic, and 78 00:05:37.720 --> 00:05:40.079 that has to do with the nodes of the moon 79 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:44.600 having moved from a Pisse's north node and Virgo south 80 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:49.040 node to now an Aquarius north node and a Leo 81 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:52.079 south node. And to help me make sense of this, 82 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:57.639 I am welcoming evolutionary astrologer Dabney Lawless, who has been 83 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:00.000 a guest before. Thank you so much for being here again. 84 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:03.160 Thanks for rose to me, Kathy. It's always lovely to 85 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:03.519 see you. 86 00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:06.600 Yeah. We always enjoyed. People have been excited when they've 87 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:10.600 seen your my guests, like, oh I love this collaboration. Yay. 88 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:12.399 Yeah, I know I need to have you back on 89 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:15.279 my channels soon too, so because I like chatting with you. 90 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:21.240 Yeah, we chat about fun stuff. So what's the role 91 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:22.680 of the nodes of the moon. I mean, they're, for 92 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:25.360 one thing, They're a mathematical point right there. They're not 93 00:06:25.439 --> 00:06:27.399 an actual thing. You can't look in the sky and 94 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:28.240 see them. 95 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:31.759 Yes, they and you know, I'm not even going to 96 00:06:31.800 --> 00:06:35.399 pretend like I can explain what the ecliptic is. But 97 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:39.399 they are a point on the ecliptic between the Sun 98 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:42.240 and the Moon. They have to do with our karma 99 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:48.120 and the South node versus the North node. It's kind 100 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:52.279 of one of these things that different schools of astrology 101 00:06:52.439 --> 00:06:57.399 have slightly different interpretations. As an evolutionary astrologer. I've been 102 00:06:57.439 --> 00:06:59.639 really taught to look at the south note as something 103 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:03.720 we're really leasing, something that we bring in gifts from 104 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:08.279 the past, whether it's your past in this incarnation or 105 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:13.439 other incarnations or in sister lineage. But the South node 106 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:17.079 has to do with something we've done before, so it 107 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:22.079 just comes really naturally to us. And the North node 108 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:25.439 is a little bit more about where your soul wants 109 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:27.680 to go in this lifetime. So the North node is 110 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:31.279 what we're reaching for, but it takes consciousness. It's not 111 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:36.040 as automatic as the South node. So the South note 112 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:38.399 is something we live and breathe, we get it, we've 113 00:07:38.439 --> 00:07:41.680 done it. The North node is like kind of the 114 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:44.480 lessons we're learning in this lifetime, and it gives you 115 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:47.600 kind of the if you look at the shadow of 116 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:50.079 the South node, you want to release the shadow, And 117 00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:54.040 if you look at the positive things about the North node, 118 00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:56.399 that's kind of you know, what you're looking to integrate. 119 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:02.519 Another way that I also add into this is with 120 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:05.439 the South node. I see that often as being your 121 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:08.600 default behavior, like when you get under stress, this is 122 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:11.160 where you go, this is what you do, This is 123 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:14.079 what comes naturally in the North node I usually say, 124 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:17.199 has a sign saying this way to the future. It's 125 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:21.720 what you're moving toward, and how you're going to take 126 00:08:21.800 --> 00:08:24.480 what you do with the south node and move it 127 00:08:24.560 --> 00:08:29.000 into something else. Now, how is it different when we're 128 00:08:29.000 --> 00:08:32.080 talking about the collective impact? I mean, it's one thing 129 00:08:32.120 --> 00:08:34.759 to look at your own chart and go, Okay, this 130 00:08:34.799 --> 00:08:37.399 is what my notes say. What does it mean for 131 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:38.120 the collective? 132 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:40.360 Yeah. So one of the things that I think it's 133 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:44.120 important to realize is it's different than you know when 134 00:08:44.159 --> 00:08:48.679 you look at your own individual chart. Everybody born within 135 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:53.679 a certain like you know, eighteen months of when you 136 00:08:53.720 --> 00:08:57.799 were born, give or take, has the same north and 137 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:01.000 south NOE. So you know, in your second grade class, 138

00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:05.200 most of those kids, not all, but most of those 139 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:08.159 kids probably were, you know, working with the same north 140 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:10.600 and south note. So it's not one of these things 141 00:09:10.600 --> 00:09:13.159 like the moon that can change every few days or 142 00:09:13.559 --> 00:09:16.120 mercury that changes every few weeks. It's one of these 143 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:20.000 things that in your own individual chart, you're working on 144 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:22.000 it with a cohort of people that were born around 145 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:24.559 the same year you were. And how it's unique to 146 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:28.960 you happens to be what house placement its in and 147 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:32.279 how it interacts with the rest of the planets. That 148 00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:35.240 helps to kind of round out the whole story. Like 149 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:39.440 you can look at the ruler of your south node 150 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:42.440 and see what you know. If your south node is 151 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:47.159 in Gemini like mine, I look to Mercury, is yours too? 152 00:09:47.799 --> 00:09:53.720 Oh yeah, we're doing our sad north note by chatting, yeah, 153 00:09:53.799 --> 00:09:58.519 talking astrology. So here, you know, you can kind of 154 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:02.159 learn a little bit more about yourself now. One of 155 00:10:02.200 --> 00:10:05.399 the also little shortcuts I should say is like north node, 156 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:08.440 north star, right, what is your north star? What is 157 00:10:08.480 --> 00:10:11.440 the thing that's like guiding you forward? Like you said, 158 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:13.960 there's kind of like a sign that says future this way. 159 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:19.480 So when it's in the collective, that means that everybody 160 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:23.399 on the planet right now is experiencing a south node 161 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:26.559 in Leo and a north node in Aquarius, and how 162 00:10:26.600 --> 00:10:30.919 we experience that is going to be different than our 163 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:35.399 own individual north and south nodes. So a baby born 164 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:38.320 today is going to have a South node in Leo, right, 165 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:40.679 and then that will be part of their personal story. 166 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:44.639 But this is the collective story. It's how we are 167 00:10:44.720 --> 00:10:52.240 going to as a world release the themes of the 168 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:56.519 south node that are no longer serving us or we're 169 00:10:56.519 --> 00:11:00.279 going to kind of reflexively do them, and it will 170 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:04.960 likely be somewhat toxic, because that's what happens when you 171 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:07.360 are just stuck in your self node, you kind of 172 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:12.080 act out the shadow of it. And so this is 173 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:15.039 going to be kind of a doozy of one. You know, 174 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:19.200 you can see in your own life which eclipses and 175 00:11:19.279 --> 00:11:25.440 which north node South node configurations are more of a 176 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:27.799 trigger in your own personal chart. But I think today 177 00:11:27.799 --> 00:11:30.240 we're going to be talking more about what the world 178 00:11:30.279 --> 00:11:31.879 can expect and the collective. 179 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:37.799 So the south note interesting, So south node in Leo 180 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:47.600 gold gold being put on statues that belong. 181 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:50.559 To the guild statues. 182 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:59.679 Yes, gilded statues. The rise of fake royalty all over 183 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:03.360 place against the people. I mean, there's the dichotomy here 184 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:06.159 of of. 185 00:12:05.559 --> 00:12:11.440 The people for ten versaill with ballrooms and you know, 186 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:15.720 arches and you know, kind of this mimicking of and 187 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:19.480 it's really funny because you know, taking the astrology of 188 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:23.360 the eclipses and the nodes out of the equation, you know, 189 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:27.320 we do have this kind of throwback energy to you know, 190 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:31.679 the American and French revolutions as well with the placement 191 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:38.879 of Uranus and areas in Neptune. So it's Pluto and Aquarius. 192 00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:44.840 You know, well, last month Jupiter in Leo now the 193 00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:49.320 South node, opposed Pluto and Aquarius now the North node, 194 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:53.519 and that set up a dynamic in a couple of 195 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:57.080 ways that was in place in October seventeen eighty nine 196 00:12:57.159 --> 00:13:03.039 speaking of the French Revolution. So we've experienced historically the 197 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:08.559 dichotomy of monarchy or people like where is power and 198 00:13:08.639 --> 00:13:11.159 power being going in different directions, and now we have 199 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:16.559 now the nodes. We just had this opposition in the 200 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:19.399 middle of July, and then at the end of July 201 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:23.440 the notes moved and now we're all dealing with what 202 00:13:23.480 --> 00:13:25.879 this means. So anything you care to add to that, 203 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:27.039 please have at it. 204 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:30.639 Yeah. So, I mean it's interesting because last month everyone 205 00:13:30.679 --> 00:13:33.240 was talking about the Barbos basket and like, you know, 206 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:36.600 there was a sort of like hopeful energy, and I 207 00:13:36.639 --> 00:13:40.080 think most people experienced July is somewhat of a stressful month. 208 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:45.000 It was

just another month of you know, kind of 209 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:50.879 blowing out norms and feeling like, you know, once again 210 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:54.399 there's climate crisises with the fires in Europe, and so 211 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:56.639 there's just all of these kind of things, and so 212 00:13:56.720 --> 00:14:00.320 you start to think, like, what is the breakthrough. But 213 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:03.200 I think part of the breakthrough that what I'm seeing 214 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:12.559 is the the expose. Let's call it that, the expose, 215 00:14:12.919 --> 00:14:18.440 the you know, the all of these things that are happening. 216 00:14:19.240 --> 00:14:22.039 This is just starting right. This is going to be 217 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:25.480 the outer plants are going to be dancing together harmoniously 218 00:14:25.559 --> 00:14:29.600 for you know, many years. And I think what they're 219 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:32.799 doing right now is they are talking and saying like, 220 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:35.919 we need to show people what's really going on. People 221 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:39.879 need to experience this because we're moving in a new direction. 222 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:43.519 So there wasn't this like up level of you know, 223 00:14:43.679 --> 00:14:47.679 sudden consciousness. I don't think across the universe, but I 224 00:14:47.720 --> 00:14:51.440 do think that there's an increased awareness. And unfortunately, what 225 00:14:51.559 --> 00:14:58.679 I'm seeing is that awareness often comes when people are 226 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:02.519 pushed to a crisis point. As humans, we tend to 227 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:05.960 want to just escape by I think things are okay. Now, 228 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:09.720 that's not everybody, But if we're talking collective, you know, 229 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:15.240 life's hard and we don't want to see you know, 230 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:18.879 terrible things happening to young women being trafficked. We don't 231 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:23.440 want to see the reality of climate change. We don't 232 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:25.440 want to see some of these things because they're scary 233 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:29.480 and we feel helpless, and so it's better to just 234 00:15:29.720 --> 00:15:33.559 kind of blinders on and do the dishes and you know, 235 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:37.320 deal with your life. But I think there's an opening 236 00:15:38.240 --> 00:15:42.639 of the crisis points that are then bringing people to 237 00:15:42.879 --> 00:15:47.240 that level of awareness that can help catapults us forward. 238 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:54.240 I'm also seeing in tandem with that, people kind of 239 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:56.559 deciding that they're just going to be who they are, 240 00:15:56.879 --> 00:16:01.360 I mean, giving zero f's like okay, it's time, and 241 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:05.679 living in a more bold and brazen way. I said 242 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:08.240 this to a client earlier today. I hate what's happened 243 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:11.720 to the word authentic, but it does apply to what 244 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:16.080 is being awakened in people. Now there's a you know, 245 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:18.720 like does go do, go be yourself, Go do what 246 00:16:18.720 --> 00:16:22.080 you're gonna do. And all these people doing what they're 247 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:25.639 gonna do heading in the same direction, I think are 248 00:16:25.639 --> 00:16:30.080 going to ultimately have an extremely positive impact. It'll probably 249 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:33.759 take years to really see it, but honestly, I think 250 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:36.440 last month we did we crest the hill, we went 251 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:39.320 over the hill, like Okay, now the collapse is starting, 252 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:41.879 and it just seems to be spreading and spreading and 253 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:45.600 spreading and spreading and I forget who I've read. I've 254 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:49.960 bet read so much on this, but an astrologer who 255 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:53.240 does not operate under a name, but a moniker or something. 256 00:16:53.440 --> 00:16:57.399 It's talked about the seeds that are already being planted 257 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:01.200 in the midst of all this, and I'm seeing this everywhere. 258 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:04.160 I agree with that. I agree with that one hundred percent. 259 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:07.720 And let's talk about the word authentic, because that, to 260 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:12.519 me is the aquarious axis. But that's a really hard 261 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:16.519 thing to wrap our heads around. And so I've been 262 00:17:16.559 --> 00:17:18.519 doing a lot of thinking about this, like what does 263 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:24.319 it take to become authentic? And you know, we may 264 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:27.880 think you're, you know, you've got aquarian energy, so maybe 265 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:29.799 you're you know, you're a little further ahead than the 266 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:32.559 rest of us. But you know, I think that we 267 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:37.119 all believe we're being authentic most of the time. But 268 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:42.160 we are conditioned. We have roles, we have masks that 269 00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:47.440 we wear in polite society, we have the rules that 270 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:50.839 we have to follow at work. We and you know, 271 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:54.720 to a great degree, this is what holds society together, right, 272 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:57.440 I mean, like you have to on some level. But 273 00:17:58.119 --> 00:18:02.480 when there's a betrayal of the cell, that is where 274 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:07.519 authenticity falls by the wayside, and Leo energy, which is 275 00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:11.880 the south node, is very well conditioned, is very good 276 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:16.920 at playing

that role. You know, Leo is known for 277 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:20.839 being a fantastic actor or actress, and so part of 278 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:24.240 this energy is looking in our own lives and thinking like, 279 00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:29.480 what is truly not ours? What is the role we've 280 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:34.720 been conditioned to play? And so, for example, and you 281 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:38.759 look to your son, because the son is the ruler 282 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:42.519 of Leo. So look to your son and you think, 283 00:18:43.119 --> 00:18:46.680 this is my ego, this is who I identify as. 284 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:50.440 So for myself, I'm a cancer, okay, cancer in the 285 00:18:50.480 --> 00:18:55.000 seventh House. So I play the role of a cancer 286 00:18:55.039 --> 00:18:59.319 in the seventh House quite often. I'm very kind and 287 00:18:59.480 --> 00:19:05.160 compassion and motherly and loving. But what also comes with 288 00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:08.759 that is self sacrifice. You know. Maybe some of this 289 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:15.200 kind of energy where passive aggressive energy where I'm you know, 290 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:18.079 not really happy about doing something, but I feel like 291 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:21.039 I'm conditioned to do it. I'm the woman, I'm the mother, 292 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:27.160 that's my role, right, So look to your own son 293 00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:30.759 and say, like, what's the role that I'm playing versus 294 00:19:30.839 --> 00:19:36.359 the authenticity? What's the obligation I feel? What's the pull 295 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:42.519 that I've been conditioned versus what helps me feel alive. 296 00:19:43.920 --> 00:19:47.160 And that doesn't mean that I'm not authentically a cancer 297 00:19:47.160 --> 00:19:50.599 in the seventh House, but I know that there's layered 298 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:58.440 onto that rules that I've learned and behavior that I 299 00:19:58.599 --> 00:20:02.200 act because that that's who I am. Right, Does that 300 00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:02.880 make sense? 301 00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:07.640 It does? And I am seeing some people, especially online, 302 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:12.440 change the way they present themselves because they've been presenting 303 00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:15.279 information in a way that they thought they had to 304 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:19.240 that for you to listen to me, I must do one, two, three. 305 00:20:19.720 --> 00:20:23.640 And some people have hit the wall and gone, that's it, 306 00:20:23.720 --> 00:20:27.079 and they're just kind of casually talking, and their impact 307 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:31.960 is so much greater because their real voice is coming 308 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:35.799 through what they're saying. And that I think is part 309 00:20:35.839 --> 00:20:39.960 of what is on offer for everybody right now to 310 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:42.880 stop playing the role kind of what you were saying 311 00:20:43.599 --> 00:20:48.160 and just let your own self come out more. 312 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:51.680 Yeah, and you know if you are and you can 313 00:20:51.720 --> 00:20:56.640 see this a lot in like congregations or at work, 314 00:20:56.880 --> 00:21:00.720 or you know, places where there are certain you know, 315 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:06.319 social norms and behavior, and just test yourself where it's like, 316 00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:09.480 oh is that my truth? Do I really believe this? 317 00:21:10.200 --> 00:21:11.880 Or is this what I have to do? To get 318 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:15.400 by or to make other people like me, or whatever 319 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:17.880 the case may be. And I think we're just starting 320 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:21.720 this journey this year, and so I think there is 321 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:24.880 this opportunity for people to break free and become more 322 00:21:24.880 --> 00:21:30.000 authentically themselves. But I think that if you just say 323 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:33.359 become more authentically yourself, I think that there's enough people 324 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:37.200 out there that already think they're being authentically themselves where 325 00:21:38.000 --> 00:21:41.319 and this is a time where we're actually challenged to 326 00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:44.000 question that and go a level deeper. 327 00:21:46.440 --> 00:21:48.599 I just want to remind everyone that if you're listening 328 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:52.160 to this, you have lived through this nodal cycle at 329 00:21:52.240 --> 00:21:56.400 least once, probably several times. We had a north node 330 00:21:56.480 --> 00:22:00.920 and Aquarius was it to thousand and seven to two 331 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:04.920 thousand and nine, and then in the early nineties. Is 332 00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:07.039 that the other time? And I didn't take it back 333 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:10.480 further than that, But this time is different because of 334 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:13.279 the dance of the outer planet. So you can look 335 00:22:13.319 --> 00:22:19.440 at what happened in the ninety seven to two thousand 336 00:22:19.440 --> 00:22:23.640 and seven to two thousand and nine period, which interestingly 337 00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:26.759 coincides with when I moved and I am now moving again, 338 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:32.920 and various other things that happened also coinciding with that, 339 00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:36.759 I'm actually spilling personal details in my forecast, which I 340 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:39.000 never ever ever used to do, but they seem to 341 00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:41.960 be giving information to people, So that's what I'm doing 342 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:45.240 at any rate. So the current time, now that it's gone, 343 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:48.200 now that the notes have moved into Aquarius and Leo again, 344 00:22:49.240 --> 00:22:53.359 it's on the heels of this massive rewiring that involved 345 00:22:53.359 -->

00:22:57.279 the signs of Aquarius and Leo in the middle of July. 346 00:22:57.440 --> 00:23:01.480 So it's a very different story. 347 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:04.519 It's really interesting to see. And you know, in Barack 348 00:23:04.519 --> 00:23:08.960 Obama was a Leo, and you know he was elected 349 00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:11.799 during that time. That was the time where everyone was 350 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:16.279 really seeking change, right, Remember that was like the big 351 00:23:16.319 --> 00:23:20.680 slogan in our country in the US was change. And 352 00:23:20.759 --> 00:23:23.640 part of the reason he lost popularity after the first 353 00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:26.240 couple of years was because people didn't feel like they 354 00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:29.920 saw that change. And so I think that we're in 355 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:34.359 another change time where you know, let's look at other 356 00:23:34.519 --> 00:23:40.039 Leo seuth Node themes again, looking at the shadow of Leo. 357 00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:42.640 So if you are Leo married to Leo, my sons 358 00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:47.440 Leo loved the Leo, Gotta Mars and Leo. But every 359 00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:51.839 sign is a shadow, and the shadow of Leo is performance, 360 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:56.079 but not performance from a place of it's a performance 361 00:23:56.119 --> 00:24:00.000 to please others, right, It's a performance for approval versus 362 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:04.160 performance from the heart. So when you're in a performance state, 363 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:06.759 if you're a Leo, you might be quite dramatic. Mars 364 00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:09.480 and Leo. I love to perform, but it's got to 365 00:24:09.559 --> 00:24:12.079 come from the heart to be that kind of authenticity. 366 00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:19.200 So performance not you know, for seeking approval or seeking applause. 367 00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:24.640 There is the elite leaders, people who are put on 368 00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:29.839 a pedestal in some way and are better than right, 369 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:35.960 Leo historically is tied to royalty. Okay, so we think 370 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:39.599 about who is the modern royalty, and you know, for 371 00:24:39.720 --> 00:24:42.400 most of my life the modern royalty was Hollywood. That 372 00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:46.599 has shifted significantly, and I think that has a lot 373 00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:48.680 to do with Pluto going on Quarius. But we're going 374 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:52.799 to see that accelerating that the people that we held 375 00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:57.559 on high are going to fall off that pedestal because 376 00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:00.480 that's not what we're supposed to be doing right now. 377 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:03.200 What we're supposed to be doing right now is honoring 378 00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:08.920 that the individual is not everything. So you know, naming 379 00:25:08.920 --> 00:25:12.359 an airport after yourself, building a monument to yourself, these 380 00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:17.359 things are really antithetical to what the karmic energy is 381 00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:22.359 requiring of us at this time. And so those people 382 00:25:22.480 --> 00:25:28.839 who are just using their power for selfish purposes, and 383 00:25:28.880 --> 00:25:33.279 selfish unfortunately is also a very late le O shadow 384 00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:40.200 word and can be narcissism, can be gaudy, you know, showy, 385 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:45.039 wanting attention at all times. You know, someone constantly that 386 00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:48.920 needs to be in front of the camera. This is 387 00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:54.319 a time of really kind of simplifying, getting back to 388 00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:59.799 what is real, what what is the aquarian high? Aquarius 389 00:25:59.880 --> 00:26:07.119 is you know, humanitarian, unique ideas, celebrating that which is different, 390 00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:18.839 celebrating diversity, progressive ideals, not necessarily progressive politics, but progressive ideals, democracy, 391 00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:26.720 things that give take centralized power and make a diffuse, which. 392 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:32.240 Is completely in keeping with seventeen eighty nine when Jupiter 393 00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:37.079 and Pluto opposed each other with I believe wasn't Neptune 394 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:39.599 in Ares when that happened. I could be wrong. 395 00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:42.400 So I want to say that it's like they're looking 396 00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:44.359 at like a big mirror in all. 397 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:49.119 Ye and women push the monarchy out of the palace. 398 00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:52.079 Well, here's the one thing I'm going to say, because 399 00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:53.759 I'm doing a lot of research on this because I'm 400 00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:57.319 going to be doing something about these revolutions because we're 401 00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:03.880 in disruptionary energy. Interesting thing throughout history of revolutions is 402 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:10.599 they don't really have any forward momentum or progress until 403 00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:14.160 the lower level elites, like the people who are elite, 404 00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:17.960 feel like they're not getting theirs, like they're the ones 405 00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:20.640 pushed to the edge. So like we have things like 406 00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:24.480 Occupy Wall Street where you really had people who had 407 00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:29.279 very little to nothing and they had no power, they 408 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:32.960 were not influential enough. But suddenly when the people who 409 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:36.319 are adjacent to the court or even inside the court 410 00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:40.240 but are not the rulers, feel like they're not getting theirs, 411 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:46.039 that's when we suddenly see a sea change and these

412 00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:51.960 revolutions actually have power behind them to make a difference. 413 00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:54.559 So it's really fascinating. 414 00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.799 It's a cliffhanger. We're going to take our break right here. 415 00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:01.440 Everyone come back and you'll see where this goes back 416 00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:02.119 in a few minutes. 417 00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:05.680 Own Times TV. 418 00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:12.920 Want help with your own celestial compass, Visit my site 419 00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:18.599 Empowerment Unlimited dot net for astroinsight forecasts for each week, month, 420 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:22.359 and new and full moon. Want to explore the personal 421 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:28.279 impact make a decision, understand another person. It is possible 422 00:28:28.920 --> 00:28:31.640 click the services tab to book a personal session with 423 00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:36.519 me that address again. Empowerment onlimited dot net. 424 00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:44.720 Imagine becoming a super influencer. Reinvent yourself, invest in your brand, 425 00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:49.000 and then manifest your success with a robust, spheric approach. 426 00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:53.960 Own Times Media and Broadcasting offers a unique and multifaceted 427 00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:57.880 way to become the spiritual and conscious influencer you deserve 428 00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:01.039 to be. By putting your message a across our powerful 429 00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:05.359 platform with its proven record of integrity and excellence. Through 430 00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:09.599 our produced shows, Own Times offers the opportunity to become 431 00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:13.559 a social media TV personality, a radio show host, an 432 00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:17.880 Own Times magazine columnist, and a syndicated podcaster all in 433 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.400 one shot. By live streaming your show on Own Times 434 00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:25.319 TV and broadcasting it across the extensive Home Times, Radio 435 00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:28.640 and TV networks, you become more than a host. You 436 00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:32.680 become an ambassador and a force for positive change. Own 437 00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:35.559 Times Open yourself to the possibilities. 438 00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:43.240 If I could be you could be me, but just 439 00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:49.400 one hour, if we could find a way to get 440 00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:52.240 inside each other's mine. 441 00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:55.319 Welcome all and my shoes. 442 00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:04.240 Welcome all and my shoe well before you abuse criticience 443 00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:05.519 and accused. 444 00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:14.200 Welcome out shoes, Welcome back to celestial compass. I'm talking 445 00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:18.480 today with evolutionary astrologer Dabney Lawless, and we're talking about 446 00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:22.240 the nodes now being in

Aquarius and Leo. And just 447 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:25.200 before the break, Dabney was starting to hint at her 448 00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:31.160 research that she's been doing about when revolutions finally gained momentum. 449 00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:35.440 Yeah, so you know, you can look back at the 450 00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:39.519 you know, looking at the French Revolution or even looking 451 00:30:39.599 --> 00:30:44.079 at the revolution in the United States. What ends up 452 00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:50.359 happening is the moneyed class is being pressured or squeezed 453 00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:53.559 or they feel like there's something being taken away from 454 00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:57.880 them from the uber uber top elite, whether it's the 455 00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:02.119 crown or in our case, like the billionaires. It's funny 456 00:31:02.119 --> 00:31:06.079 because there's only like a few hundred billionaires, but they're 457 00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:08.839 you know, a ton of millionaires, right, believe it or not. 458 00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:12.599 And I just read an article the other day about 459 00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:15.920 how the millionaires in San Francisco are furious at the 460 00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:22.839 billionaires because they can't afford homes anymore. They can't because 461 00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.880 everything's being like vacuumed up by them, and that does 462 00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:30.319 seem to be sort of a tipping point is when 463 00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:36.519 the economies of these countries have been run into the 464 00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:41.039 grounds because of wars, foreign wars, and they're in debt, 465 00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:45.119 tremendous debt due to foreign wars. And then they, in 466 00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:48.720 order to raise money, raise taxes. The elite will not 467 00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:53.000 let you raise taxes, so then they do things like tariffs, 468 00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:58.039 and tariffs tend to be another big theme. So you know, 469 00:31:58.359 --> 00:32:01.960 all of a sudden, now the people who are you know, 470 00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:06.960 still of a ruling class, but not the rulers right, like, 471 00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:10.559 not the tippy top, but the like, you know, one 472 00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:13.680 down from the pyramid. They're being pressured through things like 473 00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:17.640 tariffs and you know, the threat of taxes and things 474 00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:21.799 like that. And that's when they get everybody under them 475 00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:24.880 riled up there. And it's not that hard to do 476 00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:27.960 because it, you know, it is that pyramid. There's so 477 00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.160 many more of them. But the people down below have 478 00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:33.599 already been struggling for ten years or more at the 479 00:32:33.640 --> 00:32:37.240 point at which there is a tipping point. So I 480 00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:40.839 say all this related to the nodes because I think 481 00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:44.240 what we're looking at is this south node in Leo 482 00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:50.480 moment where even the elite are being squeezed to then 483 00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:59.720 employ the masses. I'm not advocating revolution. I'm just looking 484 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:04.240 at the history and it's amazing how how what we 485 00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:09.359 are experiencing now with debt for and wars, tariffs and 486 00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:13.079 the elite refusing to raise taxes on themselves even though 487 00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:16.359 the country is desperately in need, and then we get 488 00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:27.200 these circumstances that are just ripe for a massive change. 489 00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:30.759 Which I think is coming. But that's just me now 490 00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:33.400 and off here, let's talk more about the North Node though. 491 00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:36.599 So we've we've been talking a lot about the look 492 00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:41.160 at me kind of selfish tantrum. You know, I am 493 00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:45.000 important and the rest of you are just you. You 494 00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:48.920 live to serve me kind of mentality that we're moving 495 00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:52.039 away from. Or that is the toxin that's being exposed, 496 00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:55.519 however you want to look at it and a footnote. 497 00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:59.599 You know, when when people go to role playing places 498 00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:01.440 like a few want to go to a place that 499 00:34:02.079 --> 00:34:06.200 is role playing Downton Abbey or something. Nobody wants to 500 00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:09.639 be the scullery crew. No one wants to play the 501 00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:12.159 role of the kitchen crew. They all want to be 502 00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:15.800 the nobility. Okay, would you go role play like that, 503 00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:18.599 So think about that. Who wants to be used to 504 00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:21.840 be upstairs downstairs? That's really dating myself, although I think 505 00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:24.239 it was a lot more interesting downstairs on that show. Okay, 506 00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:28.760 so back to the north note. What do you see 507 00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:33.119 as the possibilities with the north note in Aquarius? And 508 00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:36.800 again we do have some earlier cycles we can look at, 509 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.800 but I think this is different because of what we've 510 00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:40.400 just been. 511 00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:44.800 Through, right, I think that it is kind of looking 512 00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:47.599 at and I'm no expert on like the Saro cycles 513 00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:50.920 and things like that, there's like kind of larger cycles 514 00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:55.559 that take that we can take into consideration about what 515

00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:57.880 are the sort of tipping points, what are the echoes 516 00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:01.800 and history. But if we look at north note and 517 00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:07.239 Aquarius energy, okay, looking at the last time, that's when 518 00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:13.079 Obamacare was was released, right, So that's an example of 519 00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:18.280 something where something that was reserved only for a certain 520 00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:22.119 class of people was in some ways opened up to 521 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:28.280 other people. Now that no matter what you think of that, 522 00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:34.679 it did shift the way that ensurance was run. So 523 00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:39.000 I don't I'm never this sort of idealistic person in 524 00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:43.239 let's say that we have this sort of revolutionary energy 525 00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:47.280 in the air, we have to understand that after these 526 00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:54.639 big moments of change in history, there often comes you know, chaos, fallout, 527 00:35:56.400 --> 00:36:01.360 you know, a reorganization and aquarium energy. Like, let's look 528 00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:04.599 at the high side of aquarius energy. It's new ideas. 529 00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:09.239 It's it's thinking big picture, it is what's going to 530 00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:15.000 be good for everybody. It's it's space, it's astrology, it's 531 00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:23.039 you know, it is ideas because it is an air sign, right, 532 00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:27.280 So it's in the head. So what you lack sometimes 533 00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:32.079 with aquarium energy is the heart, you know. It's it's 534 00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:36.480 like we get into this mindset of well, okay, so 535 00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:38.800 this is going to be the new plan. This is 536 00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:40.639 you know, what we're going to do, and this is 537 00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:42.159 going to be good for everybody. 538 00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:42.440 Right. 539 00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:46.519 So Obamacare, for example, was supposed to be good for people, doctors, 540 00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:49.960 and insurance companies, right, But did they really think about 541 00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:53.559 the psychology of the insurance companies and you know, the 542 00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:56.679 different And so this is just an example because I'm 543 00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.960 no way of bashing Obamacare. I'm very great for the 544 00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:03.960 changes it brought. That said, I think we can all 545 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:08.519 look back and say like, wow, we didn't anticipate that happening. 546 00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:13.800 And so I think that and so and that's it, right, Like, 547 00:37:13.880 --> 00:37:16.320 I think there are a lot of things we can't anticipate, 548 00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:20.639 and there can be some degree of austerity and sort 549 00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:24.280

of like cutting things off where like let's say you're 550 00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:27.679 like an HR director, Right, that's very kind of aquarium 551 00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:31.760 profession where you have to do what's right for everybody, 552 00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:35.840 but sometimes that comes at the very personal cost, right, 553 00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:38.159 And so I think that we need to sort of 554 00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:42.760 think about the fact that this is an opportunity to 555 00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:47.119 have big ideas, this is an opportunity to be strategic, 556 00:37:47.880 --> 00:37:54.440 but we can't completely lose the individual as things are 557 00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:58.480 being rebuilt and remade, because if they're just being remade 558 00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:03.519 for the sake of everybody, then you get this kind 559 00:38:03.559 --> 00:38:06.960 of utopia, dystopia, confusion. 560 00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:11.280 I don't know what that. Well, then the French Revolution 561 00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:16.239 certainly taught us that it can get really messy. And 562 00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:21.440 now another way of another thing that is possible with 563 00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:24.519 the North note in Aquarius, it's more of an emphasis 564 00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:28.920 on collective action, on people coming together and doing things together. 565 00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:33.960 And I actually saw an absolutely normal person, a muggle. 566 00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:36.639 She probably hated if she knew. I called her that 567 00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:39.800 on Facebook, saying, Hey, I'm thinking about how much everything 568 00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:41.800 is costing, and I'm wondering, like, should a bunch of 569 00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:43.880 us just go buy a big piece of land and 570 00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:46.400 figure out how we could live together? And people are 571 00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:49.599 seriously talking about it, and I'm like, well, isn't this interesting. 572 00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:53.000 That's a very Pluto inaquarius thing, like how can we 573 00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:54.440 create a community? 574 00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:57.960 Yeah, And I you know, I love to I spent 575 00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:00.280 twenty five years in PR so I read a lot 576 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:02.440 of news and I really do keep and I have 577 00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:04.400 yearned this on the mid heaven, so I keep my 578 00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:07.960 favor on the of Sorry, my cat's about to go 579 00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:10.199 to the vent, so if you hear her crying, she's. 580 00:39:11.519 --> 00:39:12.480 Must been realizing. 581 00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:19.079 So but what I was saying is there's a new 582 00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.559 it's not new trend. It's almost like a course correction 583 00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:29.480 that there are more multi generational homes again, and it's 584 00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:33.519 being born of necessity. But in

some ways it's really 585 00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:36.559 a return to how things were prior to the nineteen 586 00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:41.079 forties nineteen fifties post World War Two era, where there 587 00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:47.519 was kind of this suburban flight and everyone had their 588 00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:50.880 own kingdom. Pluto was an equipment and Leo. Everyone had 589 00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:53.440 their own castle and their own backyard, and we all 590 00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:56.480 closed it off. Whereas before we sat on the front 591 00:39:56.519 --> 00:39:59.360 porch and we talked to our neighbors and we kept 592 00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:02.760 an eye out for one another. And instead now it's 593 00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:06.840 like you have a backyard, not a front porch. And 594 00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:09.480 so I think it's kind of the return to the 595 00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:13.159 front porch is a little bit. What I'm getting is 596 00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:16.480 that this is this opportunity for us to recognize that 597 00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:20.239 we may be pushed into financial for financial reasons or 598 00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:24.400 just because we choose this. More multi generational homes again, 599 00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:31.320 more community coming together and supporting one another. We're seeing 600 00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:36.760 like the tremendous backlash against the data centers, and that 601 00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:42.000 is bringing red and blue people together because they now 602 00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:47.199 have this common like the king is, you know, the billionaire, 603 00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:50.639 the king, the whatever you want to call him, is 604 00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:55.400 stealing from all of us. Right. So again, people who 605 00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:59.840 may have been marginalized in the past, fighting against polluted 606 00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:04.920 waters in their backyard or you know, that didn't have 607 00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:10.199 the same effect as when suddenly middle class people from 608 00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:15.320 all you know, political and religious backgrounds are being impacted 609 00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:16.639 by what the king is doing. 610 00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:22.639 And it is fascinating how it's common ground. It is 611 00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:27.280 absolutely common ground, and I'm seeing in my neck of 612 00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:30.880 the woods. There are a couple of towns that started 613 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:34.079 to make deals and the citizen re got a hold 614 00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:37.840 of it and made a huge stink. So things backed off. 615 00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:41.920 And now the data center warehouse owners or would be 616 00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:46.119 warehouse owners are filing lawsuits against the towns, and the 617 00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:51.800 towns are backpedaling, and the citizens are speaking out even 618 00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:54.880 more and more

and more. And I just sit back 619 00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:57.000 and watching wow, like I would have never thought this 620 00:41:57.000 --> 00:41:58.599 would happen, and never. 621 00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:01.760 Thought with the private to see what the cameras that 622 00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:06.000 are going up all over the country. And so again 623 00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:09.119 here all of a sudden, it's not just impacting poor people, 624 00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:12.760 it's impacting all of us. And we are also at 625 00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:18.679 a breaking point too, where we all sort of realize 626 00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:24.880 that it's becoming unsustainable to survive. So whereas somebody might 627 00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:28.639 be okay if like the bottom, you know, because there's 628 00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:32.079 always a reason why, and it's very quarry, and to 629 00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:36.840 actually open your eyes and be like, oh, wow, that 630 00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:42.559 impacts all of us. And so we can't just have everybody, 631 00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:47.400 you know, have their food stamps cut, because then they 632 00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:50.320 crime may go up or whatever the you know, the 633 00:42:50.360 --> 00:42:54.320 thing may be there becomes this new awareness of how 634 00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:58.400 interconnected we all are. And I think we're seeing that 635 00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:01.159 you can't put the g back in the bottle as 636 00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:04.760 far as globalism is concerned, as hard as you know 637 00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:10.960 anyone would try, Ultimately we are this one world and 638 00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:14.159 the aquarian energy, I think, is going to make that 639 00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.000 that much more apparent. 640 00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:21.719 Now when you said how interconnected we are, that reminded 641 00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:24.840 me we haven't talked about what we're moved away from. 642 00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:29.679 So how is a Pisce's North node, which kind of 643 00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:33.079 like a lot dunked us in. Everybody else's stuffed to 644 00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:36.239 some extent. But how's that different than the aquarian is 645 00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:39.079 the aquarium like we go sitting in the sit on 646 00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:41.079 the branch of the tree and look down on it. 647 00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:43.920 We all are commander data from star Trek, or at 648 00:43:43.960 --> 00:43:46.119 least that's on offer for us. 649 00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:49.199 I think that there is this growing awareness that we 650 00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:52.559 need one another. I think that's a very aquarium thing 651 00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:55.239 that you know you can't necessarily do it alone. You 652 00:43:55.360 --> 00:44:01.199 do need the community to make change. Just I think 653 00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:04.840 the way I was looking at the Virgo South node 654 00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:10.559 Pisce's North Node, very much to me, was about the 655 00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:14.880 recognition of letting go of control and letting go of 656 00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:19.840 our preconceived notions of how things should be and that 657 00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:22.920 we couldn't fix it. We just it got too big. 658 00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:26.119 We can't fix it. So things get to the point 659 00:44:26.119 --> 00:44:28.400 where it is too big and you can't fix it, 660 00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:31.400 and no matter how hard you try, you're just spinning 661 00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:35.880 yourself up into an anxious state. The antidote for that 662 00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:39.800 is really a much more compassionate place. It's a much 663 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:42.599 more loving place. It's a much more place of surrender 664 00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:47.239 and kind of recognizing that there's something bigger at work 665 00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:51.719 and we have to kind of pay deference to that 666 00:44:51.800 --> 00:44:55.119 on some levels. And that didn't necessarily mean check out. 667 00:44:56.199 --> 00:44:58.920 And I don't think a lot of the high side 668 00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:02.559 of Pisces was was met. I do think there was 669 00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:06.000 a lot of anxiousness, control, worry, like those are the 670 00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:13.239 dark Virgo, this shadow. But I think that's ultimately where 671 00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:17.360 I came to, was like, oh, Okay, this is bigger 672 00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:22.079 than me. It's out, it's completely out of my control, 673 00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:30.280 and until the tide turns, I have to surrender and 674 00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:35.599 that and that. However, now now the tide is turned, 675 00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:41.119 and so it's less about surrender and it's more about Okay, 676 00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:46.960 what's next. It's more about that future looking it's it's 677 00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:49.880 less of that like, oh my god, it's gonna be 678 00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:53.960 We're either gonna all die or you know, like now 679 00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:56.840 there's sort of more of this like almost like utopian 680 00:45:57.199 --> 00:45:59.880 like Okay, we can make we can have medicare for all, 681 00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.679 we can you know, whatever the case may be. I 682 00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:05.880 think the pendulum is starting to swing, and this again 683 00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:09.440 is not even just about politics. I think it's about 684 00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:13.239 everything that we see in our lives where it's almost 685 00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:18.320 like we had to regroup because it felt like everything 686 00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:25.199 just fell apart, and now we have to kind of 687 00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:27.639 regroup and say, like who do I care about? What 688 00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:31.239 do I care about? What are my values? Okay? Who 689 00:46:31.480 -->

00:46:36.199 is like minded that I can partner with? And where 690 00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:39.400 can I make a difference? What do you think? 691 00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:45.880 I am certainly seeing little subgroups forming and recognizing how 692 00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:50.039 much they appreciate each other. And I have several disparate 693 00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:54.639 ones in my life and they've been quietly forming and rearranging, 694 00:46:54.679 --> 00:46:57.760 and they aren't the people I've been largely hanging out 695 00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:01.480 with in recent years. But it's kind of mutated into 696 00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:08.119 a different direction and I'm watching people offer help, step 697 00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:13.639 up just take I don't know, start planning things. It's 698 00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:18.519 and I'm seeing it in it's happening some for my clients, 699 00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:20.760 and I think that it happens on a small scale, 700 00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:24.039 and then the little links start forming a chain and 701 00:47:24.079 --> 00:47:27.159 they start making bigger and bigger and bigger chains of 702 00:47:28.239 --> 00:47:32.280 interconnected arms or people doing things together. I mean, there's 703 00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:37.119 been a big organizational element in a lot of the 704 00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:41.519 political protests against against the data centers and against what's 705 00:47:41.519 --> 00:47:45.199 happening at detention centers and what ICE is doing on 706 00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:48.639 the streets. That's been going on for a while. But 707 00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:52.039 I'm noticing a shift in how all of that is 708 00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:58.400 working as well, and almost like a canniness coming into 709 00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:03.599 the picture and not just stand there holding signs and experience, 710 00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:05.639 because there's thing you're going to get shot if you're 711 00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:06.960 not careful about how you do this. 712 00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:12.800 So the prayering is energy, is very intelligent, it's beyond 713 00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:15.559 it's forward thinking to the point where it's like ahead 714 00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:20.159 of its time. And Pisces, on the other hand, is 715 00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:24.039 more like, Okay, can't we all just love each other 716 00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:27.039 because all this is ridiculous, like none of this matters. 717 00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:29.400 And I think we did a lot of us got 718 00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:32.320 to this point of even though we knew it all mattered, 719 00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:36.960 it's like it's happening anyway. It's almost like a throw 720 00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.119 your hands up sort of energy and then you know, 721 00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:42.880 focus in on love and like you know, and I 722 00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:49.719 did see people on a very one to one basis 723 00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:57.199 have some personal growth during the Pisces Urgo North and 724 00:48:57.239 --> 00:49:00.719 South notes. I do think this is a much more 725 00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:03.079 collective energy and what I think we are going to 726 00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:05.480 see a lot of which is going to tip the 727 00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:08.320 scales and change things in a much more dramatic way 728 00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:12.000 in some ways is because Leo is very dramatic, and 729 00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:15.239 we have Jupiter and Leo, and so Jupiter is going 730 00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:18.920 to magnify all this energy and Jupiter is going to 731 00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:21.679 really be I've been playing a lot with the idea 732 00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:27.239 of like the death of ego, where we need to 733 00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:31.519 look at our own shadow. You know, the sun hides 734 00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:37.039 the shadow, and that means we have to get outside 735 00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:43.519 of our ego, the need to be right, the need 736 00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:49.079 to be the center of the world, and for some 737 00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:53.119 people that's going to be really, really hard, and that 738 00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:55.280 is where we're going to see kind of some of 739 00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:57.960 these people who are on a pedestal, whether it's Brad 740 00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:03.599 Pitt and you know, falling from grace or you know, 741 00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:06.719 insert celebrity. 742 00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:08.599 Here, right, I thought another one. 743 00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:12.320 Yeah, yeah, so and then and then we've got, you know, 744 00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:18.400 obviously the political realm where that's going to be juicy 745 00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:22.519 with all sorts of tales to tell. And I do 746 00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:25.920 think the aquarium energy is like, no, we're not all 747 00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:32.239 about these men who are going to control this tiny 748 00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:36.760 bit and make everyone else's life challenging. I think people 749 00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:38.519 are going to be coming up against it. I think 750 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:42.000 a lot of people with Pluto and Leo, that generation 751 00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:47.239 is going to be faced with having to look at 752 00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:51.599 the shadow of Leo in a new way and see 753 00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:56.280 how the world has changed and how their role may 754 00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:59.920 have helped propel really good things that are coming back 755 00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:04.920 into fashion. But how it's it's like a totally different ballgame, right, 756 00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:08.159 And so again, like art is going to come into play, 757 00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:11.599 it has to come into play. But maybe some of 758 00:51:11.639 --> 00:51:17.719 the artists or influencers who have been everybody's you know, 759 00:51:17.840 -->

00:51:19.920 number one, all of a sudden, like we are going 760 00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:21.079 to see their shadow. 761 00:51:23.000 --> 00:51:28.639 Oh I, We're starting to see that creeping into the 762 00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:32.880 news and the disclosure, right, and left. Well, here's another 763 00:51:32.920 --> 00:51:37.000 way that I synthesize all this. It's my little Leo lecture, 764 00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:43.280 or it comes from it, and that is possibly we 765 00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:48.280 will come to value our own unique self expression more 766 00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:50.880 and not waste it on the people who don't get it. 767 00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:56.480 Maybe this that, maybe one gift of this particular nodal 768 00:51:56.599 --> 00:52:01.199 access is finding communities that are not so much like 769 00:52:01.280 --> 00:52:05.559 minded but mutually appreciative, where there's there's support and growth 770 00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:10.920 on both sides. It isn't just one person everyone honor me, 771 00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:16.960 worship me, but instead or somebody sitting, you know, sitting 772 00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:20.920 there throwing a temper tantrum. We're doing just ridiculous shenanigans 773 00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:24.400 to try to get attention really big in the theater community. 774 00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:28.320 I've witnessed more than my share of that one. So 775 00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:36.280 I think it's going to encourage actually functioning small groups 776 00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:39.320 of people where people do things for each other and 777 00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:43.239 it's mutually supportive and mutually expressive. And I've got a 778 00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:45.280 couple of these and they're just amazing. 779 00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:48.159 I love it. I love it. It made me think 780 00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:50.880 of the movie Rome and Michelle's high school Reunion. I 781 00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:56.199 remember that movie that's full sweaters, right, So for those 782 00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:59.360 who who know it's just this, you know, silly movie, 783 00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:03.119 but I actually really liked it. And one of the women, 784 00:53:03.199 --> 00:53:07.199 Romy wanted to be popular in high school, and Michelle, 785 00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:09.880 on the other hand, was like along for the ride, 786 00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:12.400 and she kind of later in life says to her like, 787 00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:16.119 I didn't care that we weren't popular. I just had 788 00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:18.679 fun with you, like you made me laugh, like we 789 00:53:18.719 --> 00:53:22.000 had fun together. It didn't matter like what was happening. 790 00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:25.599 But Romy was so caught up with being popular, and 791 00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:28.880 so that sort of reminded me of that energy where 792 00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:31.119 it's like, oh, yeah, I don't care that I don't 793 00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:33.599 get

to sit at the cool kids table. Right. It's 794 00:53:33.679 --> 00:53:35.119 just like I'm going to make my own cool kids 795 00:53:35.199 --> 00:53:36.000 table and have fun. 796 00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:40.159 Right. That's been the way I've lived. Everybody welcome aboard. 797 00:53:40.679 --> 00:53:43.280 It's yeah, son, I assume. 798 00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:46.519 Yeah, self amusing personalities, unite, Okay, go do it. 799 00:53:47.480 --> 00:53:50.679 And unfortunately in my chart, and I was the one 800 00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:52.800 who was like, but I want to be popular, why don't. 801 00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:53.079 You like me? 802 00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:56.760 So you know, yes, Kathy is going to lead us 803 00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:57.719 to where. 804 00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:01.159 We're going, and that means go do what you want 805 00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:03.559 to do and don't do what I'm doing unless it 806 00:54:03.599 --> 00:54:05.440 fits what you want to do. But with that, we're 807 00:54:05.480 --> 00:54:07.199 coming to an end because they're near the end of 808 00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:09.920 the hour. Thank you so much for hanging out again. 809 00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:13.239 Would you please tell people where they can find you. 810 00:54:13.239 --> 00:54:16.440 You can find me at Lawless Astrology dot com and 811 00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:18.280 you can get on my mailing list. I don't email 812 00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:21.079 that often, and you get a free astrology work book 813 00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:24.440 that is if you're new to astrology or you just 814 00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:28.079 want to understand it a little better. And also on YouTube, 815 00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:32.039 just you know, look me up Lawless Astrology and I 816 00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:34.440 interview all sorts of cool astrologers and then I sort 817 00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:37.159 of do my own. We'll take on forecasts and I 818 00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:39.519 talk about things like Rome and Michelle's high school reunion. 819 00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:46.400 Well, popular culture fits into understanding astrology because astrology is symbolism. Yes. 820 00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:48.280 Oh, and I'm going to be at UAC, so if 821 00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:49.800 you're there, say hi to me. 822 00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:54.440 That's the United Astrology Conference people, and it's in Chicago 823 00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:55.320 this year. Yep. 824 00:54:55.400 --> 00:54:56.559 Then I'll be September seventh. 825 00:54:56.599 --> 00:55:01.400 I'm speaking excellent, excellent, Well, thank you very very much. 826 00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:05.920 I'm sure we'll have many more conversations in the near 827 00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:11.480 future about all kinds of things, and everybody strap in 828 00:55:11.519 --> 00:55:14.960 there and go be your own unique self. That's what 829 00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:18.679 I say. Okay, talk to you in a couple of weeks. 830 00:55:18.679 --> 00:55:21.639 Bye now bye, Thanks Kathy, thank you,