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volume tick 69 00:04:47.750 --> 00:04:51.670 up and numbers tick up, but I think it's becoming polarized. 70 00:04:51.750 --> 00:04:56.170 You're getting the people who are traveling on a little 71 00:04:56.209 --> 00:05:00.600 bit more of a shoestring budget, and they're really filling 72 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:04.600 up your kind of three-star limited service hotels, and those 73 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:08.480 numbers are going up on an ADR, or average daily rate, 74 00:05:08.540 --> 00:05:12.069 for the hotels. And then the ultra hotels, the five 75 00:05:12.149 --> 00:05:18.029 stars and the storied hotels with the chandeliers, those numbers 76 00:05:18.089 --> 00:05:21.689 are going up. The middle is still packed, and the 77 00:05:21.730 --> 00:05:23.889 numbers are there, but I don't know if the average 78 00:05:23.970 --> 00:05:26.069 daily rate is climbing as much. 79 00:05:26.170 --> 00:05:27.329 What about industrials? 80 00:05:27.910 --> 00:05:33.629 Industrial had seen a kind of day crescendo. About two 81 00:05:33.670 --> 00:05:37.589 years ago, leasing volume fell off on the I-95 corridor. 82 00:05:37.910 --> 00:05:42.149 You saw a retreat from Amazon, which really has tremendous 83 00:05:42.269 --> 00:05:46.750 market share, but then everybody followed. Industrial, by its nature, 84 00:05:46.990 --> 00:05:51.290 is going to continue to grow shoulder to shoulder with 85 00:05:51.389 --> 00:05:56.550 online commerce. And logistics in general, as we become more automated, 86 00:05:56.920 --> 00:06:00.319 There is going to be a need to store and 87 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:05.629 deliver and distribute and coordinate goods closer to the bedroom communities. 88 00:06:05.990 --> 00:06:08.990 So I think as a long-term bet, I don't know 89 00:06:09.029 --> 00:06:11.810 that any sector is as solid as that. 90 00:06:12.730 --> 00:06:15.449 Last question. What do we see before the year end 91 00:06:15.810 --> 00:06:17.740 with regard to sales and everything else? 92 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:21.139 I think that, or I know that, just based on 93 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:24.860 the pipeline and bid due dates, you're definitely having an 94 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:28.579 excellent year in New York City. One of our colleagues 95 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:31.980 in the industry, who's a real statistician who you've hosted 96 00:06:32.060 --> 00:06:34.730 over the years, always likes to remind us that in 97 00:06:34.769 --> 00:06:38.930 between 2.5% and 3% of all the commercial real estate 98 00:06:38.949 --> 00:06:42.730 in New York City changes hands almost every year. Now, 99 00:06:42.769 --> 00:06:45.389 keep in mind that's all five boroughs, and this is 100 00:06:45.790 --> 00:06:48.730 anywhere from 5 million to a billion, so it's varied 101 00:06:48.769 --> 00:06:55.110 in buildings. For years, 2019, 2020, even 2021, we fell 102 00:06:55.290 --> 00:06:58.519 well below that 2.5%, 3%. I think we're going to 103 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:03.000 return to normalcy on what's actually changing hands. And keep 104 00:07:03.060 --> 00:07:06.500 in mind, that's not just good for sellers, buyers, and brokers. 105 00:07:06.980 --> 00:07:13.139 That means lawyers, accountants, appraisers, even building staff. There are 106 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:15.639 going to be a lot more activities, and the real 107 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:20.319 estate industry is going to throw off tons of revenue 108 00:07:20.990 --> 00:07:24.350 this year, and I think the future looks pretty bright 109 00:07:24.410 --> 00:07:25.069 for the near term. 110 00:07:25.310 --> 00:07:28.189 I'd like to thank David Sheckman for being here today. 111 00:07:29.029 --> 00:07:29.389 Thank you. 112 00:07:30.370 --> 00:07:35.300 The Cats Roundtable. With us today, Suzanne Miller. She's the 113 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:39.939 founder of Empire State Properties, a boutique real estate firm. Well, 114 00:07:39.980 --> 00:07:44.199 Suzanne Miller, I mean, how is New York City doing? 115 00:07:44.990 --> 00:07:47.810 Well, New York right now is not doing very well 116 00:07:48.389 --> 00:07:52.709 the country in large, the listings have accumulated and the 117 00:07:52.790 --> 00:07:56.189 sales are down. Just in the month of September, 5,000 118 00:07:56.189 --> 00:07:59.269 new units in New York hit the market, and the 119 00:07:59.329 --> 00:08:02.449 sales activity is down by 20%. 120 00:08:02.449 --> 00:08:03.410 So we do have. 121 00:08:03.269 --> 00:08:06.269 Some closings, and the prices have not really fallen because 122 00:08:06.310 --> 00:08:09.560 of the luxury market, so that's really skewing it, but 123 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:13.620 the actual sales are completely slowed down, and a lot 124 00:08:13.660 --> 00:08:15.060 of that, I think, is because of the Pierre de 125 00:08:15.100 --> 00:08:18.319 Terre tax that you're telling investors and foreigners Not to 126 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:20.639 come to New York. You're not inviting them and you're 127 00:08:20.660 --> 00:08:23.139 penalizing them for the privilege of being in New York. 128 00:08:23.560 --> 00:08:25.879 I mean, before they decide to buy, they have to 129 00:08:25.939 --> 00:08:28.279 scratch their head and say, what am I getting myself into? 130 00:08:28.500 --> 00:08:29.160 Yeah, exactly. 131 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:31.620 And what particularly has been hit is the $ 1 to 132 00:08:31.620 --> 00:08:33.039 $ 3 million homes. 133 00:08:33.110 --> 00:08:34.879 Those are your average homes in New York. 134 00:08:34.950 --> 00:08:38.470 And they've been, as I said, 20% down in sales closings. 135 00:08:38.830 --> 00:08:41.730 The rental market is very busy. It's booming because the 136 00:08:41.830 --> 00:08:44.669 office market is doing very well. So people still need 137 00:08:44.690 --> 00:08:46.809 a place to live and they're renting and they're not buying. 138 00:08:46.870 --> 00:08:47.549 That's what I'm seeing. 139 00:08:48.059 --> 00:08:54.120 Understood. And I know you're

only in the residential. Anything, 140 00:08:55.019 --> 00:08:57.330 my experience with going up and down the streets in 141 00:08:57.370 --> 00:08:59.509 New York, there's so many empty commercial stores. 142 00:09:00.169 --> 00:09:02.370 Well, the A buildings are all full. 143 00:09:02.590 --> 00:09:05.669 And now the retail is still not, it's better than 144 00:09:05.710 --> 00:09:08.769 it was, John. Madison Avenue, Believer Street, it's filling up. 145 00:09:08.830 --> 00:09:11.490 It's doing better than it was. The prices are pretty 146 00:09:11.529 --> 00:09:14.879 much held. The big issue is the sales. That seems 147 00:09:14.919 --> 00:09:16.960 to be what's on the table right now, that people 148 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:17.879 are just not investing. 149 00:09:17.980 --> 00:09:20.679 And New York, who we love, has got a very 150 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:21.519 bad rep right now. 151 00:09:22.570 --> 00:09:25.669 Anything else you want to tell all New Yorkers? 152 00:09:25.710 --> 00:09:29.129 Since 2019, the rental laws have really skewed towards the 153 00:09:29.230 --> 00:09:32.889 tenants in this city. So in 2019, they passed the 154 00:09:32.950 --> 00:09:39.299 Housing Stability and Protection Act. 2024, good cause eviction. 2025, 155 00:09:39.299 --> 00:09:43.639 no broker fees. Mamdani, a rent freeze on a million apartments. 156 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:45.179 Now the Pierre de Terre tax. 157 00:09:45.620 --> 00:09:47.919 What else? So this guy, Jason Haber. 158 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:50.850 Well, I got congestion pricing for our retail stores. 159 00:09:51.039 --> 00:09:51.649 Yeah, there you go. 160 00:09:52.110 --> 00:09:55.509 So this broker from Compass, his name is Jason Haber. 161 00:09:55.870 --> 00:09:57.350 He started a fund last week. 162 00:09:57.409 --> 00:10:00.759 It launched. And he already has $ 500, 000. members. 163 00:10:01.220 --> 00:10:03.159 And what he's trying to do is it's called Built 164 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:05.830 for New York. And what he's trying to do is 165 00:10:05.909 --> 00:10:10.509 promote landlords and management companies to dedicate themselves to not 166 00:10:10.529 --> 00:10:14.389 just voting in a primary for a Democrat or Republican. 167 00:10:14.730 --> 00:10:17.850 He wants them to vote for an actual person. 168 00:10:18.169 --> 00:10:20.350 And he's hoping that the real estate industry is going 169 00:10:20.389 --> 00:10:24.009 to band together and they won't just vote on primaries 170 00:10:24.070 --> 00:10:27.169 because the Democrats, let's face it, once you vote, the 171 00:10:27.210 --> 00:10:29.309 primary is what selects the election. 172 00:10:29.750 --> 00:10:31.379 So this is what he's trying to accomplish now. 173 00:10:31.789 --> 00:10:32.169 All right. 174 00:10:32.289 --> 00:10:36.360 Isn't that come with it by a different name, reform, uh, uh, 175 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:43.100 voting where, where people vote, uh, by, uh, I guess by, 176 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:45.500 by category or whatever. 177 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:48.980 He's trying to get the independent voters, and he's calling 178 00:10:49.059 --> 00:10:53.259 it– it's called Built for New York. It just was 179 00:10:53.299 --> 00:10:56.279 launched last week, and he thinks that the independent voters 180 00:10:56.330 --> 00:10:58.870 are not getting a say. They're voting for party and 181 00:10:58.889 --> 00:11:03.090 not the person, and he's– like DSA, for example, there's 14,000 members. 182 00:11:03.529 --> 00:11:05.909 So in other words, right now in the primary, where 183 00:11:06.129 --> 00:11:12.879 he's actually decided– who goes to the November election, then 184 00:11:13.299 --> 00:11:16.519 you're either a Republican or a Democrat who can't vote 185 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:18.480 for anybody else. 186 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:19.139 Exactly. 187 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:21.340 And the independents can't vote for anybody? 188 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:21.919 Right. 189 00:11:22.019 --> 00:11:23.840 And he thinks that's hurting the real estate industry. 190 00:11:23.879 --> 00:11:27.940 Remember, John, you always say that the real estate taxes 191 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:30.679 are 30% of New York's budget, and why should they 192 00:11:30.830 --> 00:11:34.000 not be treated fairly? So he's hoping that this will 193 00:11:34.090 --> 00:11:37.490 unite the landlords, unite the management companies, unite the brokers. 194 00:11:38.049 --> 00:11:39.789 And that they could have a say in what happens 195 00:11:40.070 --> 00:11:40.830 in their market. 196 00:11:41.610 --> 00:11:44.730 Well, Suzanne Miller, let's stay on top of it and 197 00:11:44.789 --> 00:11:48.610 keep all our listeners informed, I guess. 198 00:11:48.809 --> 00:11:49.570 Yes, thank you, John. 199 00:11:49.590 --> 00:11:50.190 Thank you so much. 200 00:11:50.210 --> 00:11:51.190 Thank you. 201 00:11:51.769 --> 00:11:54.769 With us today is Humberto Lopes, and he's been in 202 00:11:54.789 --> 00:11:57.850 the real estate business forever. The name of his company 203 00:11:57.990 --> 00:12:01.490 is HL Dynasty. Tell us about the fear you're having 204 00:12:01.909 --> 00:12:03.360 on October 29th. 205 00:12:04.409 --> 00:12:08.389 It's October 29th. It's Gotham Housing Alliance. About a year ago, 206 00:12:08.409 --> 00:12:11.629 a year on the 29th of October, we started Gotham 207 00:12:11.669 --> 00:12:15.340 Housing Alliance. We're representing a lot of members have joined, 208 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:17.980 a lot of landlords, a lot of property owners and 209 00:12:18.379 --> 00:12:21.360 management companies. Even tenants are joining my organization, believe it 210 00:12:21.379 --> 00:12:24.799 or not, to help the mom and pops. And what 211 00:12:24.820 --> 00:12:26.559 they're doing is that, you know, we're getting destroyed in 212 00:12:26.580 --> 00:12:29.210 New York City. And for this reason is why I 213 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:33.730 started the Gotham Housing Alliance. Next

Thursday, October 29th, from 214 00:12:33.730 --> 00:12:37.929 930 to 5, we're having the largest resource fair for 215 00:12:38.190 --> 00:12:41.690 all landlords, property owners, and tenants. Come to the event, 216 00:12:42.049 --> 00:12:47.820 which is 3335th Street in Brooklyn, in Industry City, Sunset Park, 217 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:50.779 they call it. Industry City is the new name. That's 218 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:51.340 where we're. 219 00:12:51.220 --> 00:12:51.980 Having this event. 220 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:57.360 We have... Six major agencies attending on this event and commissioners, 221 00:12:57.379 --> 00:13:03.990 which is the DOB, HBD, DOF, DSS, National Grid. These 222 00:13:04.029 --> 00:13:05.629 people are all going to have tables there. 223 00:13:06.029 --> 00:13:07.990 And tell me what you want to accomplish. 224 00:13:09.289 --> 00:13:11.370 What we're going to accomplish there is for you, all 225 00:13:11.389 --> 00:13:14.460 the landlords to show up. Get the knowledge of the 226 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:17.279 changing of the laws and get their problems resolved. So 227 00:13:17.299 --> 00:13:21.059 if they've got HPD violations, come down. You've got problems 228 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:24.179 with the tenants in the sense of nonpayment order, come down. 229 00:13:24.860 --> 00:13:28.279 You have problems with the finance, you know, your old 230 00:13:28.350 --> 00:13:31.250 taxes or whatever, come down. They'll do agreements for you. 231 00:13:31.990 --> 00:13:37.110 You have situations with DEP, come down. All these agencies 232 00:13:37.149 --> 00:13:39.669 are going to be there with their computers and all 233 00:13:39.690 --> 00:13:42.029 their stuff to resolve the landlord's problems. 234 00:13:42.549 --> 00:13:44.169 And give us the address one more time. 235 00:13:44.169 --> 00:13:49.169 33, 35th Street in Industry City. 236 00:13:49.769 --> 00:13:53.250 And do you have a website or email where people 237 00:13:53.289 --> 00:13:55.049 can reach you to find out? 238 00:13:55.950 --> 00:13:57.850 Yes. You can reach us. 239 00:14:00.549 --> 00:14:06.570 In GothamHousingAlliance.org, or you can reach us on Instagram, which 240 00:14:06.649 --> 00:14:11.620 is also Gotham Housing Alliance, or HL underscore Dynasty. 241 00:14:13.019 --> 00:14:16.120 Well, Humberto Lopes, thank you so much for calling in 242 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:20.740 and looking forward to having a successful situation. Yes. 243 00:14:21.019 --> 00:14:23.259 Thank you, John, again, and this is to help everyone. 244 00:14:23.740 --> 00:14:26.279 Thank you for listening to the Cats Roundtable. We'll be 245 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:29.940 right back right after this break. Welcome back to the 246 00:14:29.980 --> 00:14:30.799 Cats Roundtable. 247 00:14:32.139 --> 00:14:33.700 We'll be right back. 248 00:14:43.220 --> 00:14:46.950 Governor David Patterson is with us. Well, Governor David Patterson, 249 00:14:47.269 --> 00:14:49.350 nine days to the midterms. What's going on? 250 00:14:49.870 --> 00:14:51.509 Well, first, John, I want to give you the pulse 251 00:14:51.549 --> 00:14:55.929 of what went on last Wednesday night when the Blue 252 00:14:55.990 --> 00:15:00.429 Square Alliance, this is the alliance to fight anti-Semitism and 253 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:03.440 hate all over the world, had an event at the 254 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:05.399 Waldorf Astoria and raised $ 32 million. 255 00:15:06.830 --> 00:15:08.909 Million, $ 180, 000. 256 00:15:07.830 --> 00:15:10.909 And you were there, I was there, and I just 257 00:15:10.929 --> 00:15:13.990 think it was a tremendous event. And the speakers were 258 00:15:14.049 --> 00:15:18.159 so passionate, not about just anti-Semitism, but just how people 259 00:15:18.220 --> 00:15:22.440 treat other people. Now, to the midterms, I think, John, 260 00:15:22.460 --> 00:15:26.019 the Republicans listening in should take a deep breath. I 261 00:15:26.059 --> 00:15:28.879 don't think that Mike Rogers is going to lose in Michigan. 262 00:15:29.320 --> 00:15:33.120 I think they're on to the candidate there who says 263 00:15:33.139 --> 00:15:36.879 he's not part of the Muslim Brotherhood. And he to 264 00:15:36.919 --> 00:15:39.139 be fair to him no one has ever proved that 265 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:43.759 he had an association but he definitely has a thought 266 00:15:43.850 --> 00:15:48.090 pattern that seems to be antagonistic to what would really 267 00:15:48.210 --> 00:15:52.070 be governance and fairness to other people so I think 268 00:15:52.289 --> 00:15:56.029 around the country things are leveling off from maybe about 269 00:15:56.070 --> 00:15:58.809 a week ago when it started to look like the 270 00:15:58.850 --> 00:16:03.899 Democrats were taking a clear margin ahead and so I 271 00:16:03.940 --> 00:16:07.250 think that that's one of the things that people can 272 00:16:07.450 --> 00:16:11.370 think about. And, you know, as we were at that dinner, John, 273 00:16:11.389 --> 00:16:14.769 I was thinking about how they've told people, you know, 274 00:16:14.809 --> 00:16:19.000 when something happens, say something, stand up, do something. Well, 275 00:16:19.100 --> 00:16:21.240 in my case, that was what I was thinking about 276 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:23.799 this morning when I found out that one of the 277 00:16:23.860 --> 00:16:27.399 candidates running in one of the elections in one of 278 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:30.659 the states is a woman who apparently, when she was 279 00:16:30.659 --> 00:16:34.309 12 years old, was raped by her stepfather. And this 280 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:40.389 was aired by the other candidate. Now, that's horrible enough, 281 00:16:40.889 --> 00:16:44.549 but unfortunately, too many people sat back and didn't say anything. 282 00:16:45.110 --> 00:16:48.110 So if the candidate she was running as, Yaga Swami, 283 00:16:48.129 --> 00:16:50.649 whatever his name is, he was never raped, so he 284 00:16:50.669 -->

00:16:51.590 should win the election. 285 00:16:52.070 --> 00:16:53.409 I just thought it was outrageous. 286 00:16:53.509 --> 00:16:58.009 I think it's about the worst political ploy I have 287 00:16:58.250 --> 00:17:00.830 ever viewed in my time in politics. 288 00:17:02.110 --> 00:17:07.529 It seems like the... The Democrats right now are prisoners 289 00:17:07.710 --> 00:17:08.490 of the socialists. 290 00:17:09.390 --> 00:17:14.069 Well, it certainly has seen that way up to, I'd say, 291 00:17:14.109 --> 00:17:16.529 the past couple of weeks. In the same way I 292 00:17:16.569 --> 00:17:21.329 think the Republicans are pulling together at the end to 293 00:17:21.369 --> 00:17:25.130 make this work, the Democrats are starting to see that 294 00:17:25.289 --> 00:17:27.470 we don't want to be in this position. We were 295 00:17:27.519 --> 00:17:30.619 losing all these races, not because of our differences with 296 00:17:30.660 --> 00:17:34.700 the Republicans, but but because the socialists pulled enough votes 297 00:17:34.779 --> 00:17:37.450 to help the Republicans win. And I think that for 298 00:17:37.490 --> 00:17:39.730 the socialists who are doing it, they're going to pay 299 00:17:39.769 --> 00:17:40.490 for what they did. 300 00:17:41.329 --> 00:17:44.150 Governor David Patterson, thank you for coming on this Sunday morning, 301 00:17:44.210 --> 00:17:45.630 and let's catch up again real soon. 302 00:17:46.049 --> 00:17:46.809 Absolutely, John. 303 00:17:47.470 --> 00:17:53.799 Paul Zuber, he's the executive vice president of the Business 304 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:56.680 Council of New York State. Well, Paul Zuber, give us 305 00:17:56.700 --> 00:17:57.819 the pulse of the situation. 306 00:17:58.539 --> 00:18:01.059 Well, the pulse of the situation, John, is, you know, 307 00:18:01.380 --> 00:18:04.940 once again, we're coming up on election season. And what 308 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:08.980 I kind of find funny is all these elected officials 309 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:13.400 are talking about affordability, affordability, affordability. It's the number one 310 00:18:13.480 --> 00:18:17.210 issue for consumers. And the question that I have for 311 00:18:17.230 --> 00:18:19.750 some of these elected officials is, when are you going 312 00:18:19.769 --> 00:18:22.769 to actually do something about affordability? And I think that's 313 00:18:22.849 --> 00:18:26.720 why people in New York State are just irate, and 314 00:18:26.779 --> 00:18:29.740 people in the country are irate. You know, I hear 315 00:18:29.759 --> 00:18:32.380 a lot about energy costs and how much your energy 316 00:18:32.420 --> 00:18:35.220 bill is, but what a lot of the people listening 317 00:18:35.269 --> 00:18:39.210 don't understand is in your energy bill, in your electricity bill, 318 00:18:39.789 --> 00:18:43.150 is a whole bunch of mandates that the legislature has 319 00:18:43.250 --> 00:18:47.930 put on your bill. Like, you're paying for renewable energy, 320 00:18:48.049 --> 00:18:51.430 you're paying for new, you know, telephone poles, you're paying 321 00:18:51.470 --> 00:18:54.930 for at least 10 to 15 different things that are 322 00:18:54.990 --> 00:18:58.170 put in your energy bill that are driving your energy 323 00:18:58.210 --> 00:19:00.230 costs up. And these are all things that have been 324 00:19:00.269 --> 00:19:03.509 put on by elected officials. But it seems that nobody 325 00:19:03.589 --> 00:19:06.869 actually wants to fix that. So you constantly have this 326 00:19:06.930 --> 00:19:10.269 conversation over and over again about affordability, and we're seeing 327 00:19:10.289 --> 00:19:12.809 it in all these commercials. But my question is, when 328 00:19:12.869 --> 00:19:15.329 is someone going to do something about it? 329 00:19:15.349 --> 00:19:19.049 Paul, we worry about the same thing, and we don't 330 00:19:19.109 --> 00:19:23.359 want the exodus to continue. And that's what we're worried about. 331 00:19:23.779 --> 00:19:28.019 You know, downstate with the congestion pricing, which I don't 332 00:19:28.059 --> 00:19:31.740 think they... How do you say they're collecting bupkis amount 333 00:19:31.779 --> 00:19:35.519 of money? And the amount of stores that are empty, 334 00:19:36.259 --> 00:19:38.960 if you go up and down the avenues, is tremendous. 335 00:19:39.680 --> 00:19:43.720 And upstate, you're having an exodus too. But you know 336 00:19:43.779 --> 00:19:50.230 upstate better than I do. I mean, the cost of electricity... 337 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:55.390 by closing down Indian Point and then putting those windmills 338 00:19:55.549 --> 00:19:57.750 up is no damn good. 339 00:19:58.849 --> 00:20:01.710 It is no damn good, John. And it's constant talk 340 00:20:01.769 --> 00:20:04.769 up here. Everybody talks, talks, talks. To your point, Indian Point, 341 00:20:05.230 --> 00:20:08.710 they took Indian Point offline. So now what do you have? 342 00:20:08.730 --> 00:20:11.910 You have an energy crisis down in New York City, right, 343 00:20:11.970 --> 00:20:14.990 because we don't have reliable energy. But nobody wants to 344 00:20:15.009 --> 00:20:18.269 build pipelines because for some reason, you know, natural gas 345 00:20:18.349 --> 00:20:21.849 is so horrible and no one wants to build pipelines. 346 00:20:21.890 --> 00:20:25.099 But let's be honest, we'd We have a limited supply 347 00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:27.299 of natural gas coming into New York State, which drives 348 00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:29.700 up the cost of natural gas. So in the end, 349 00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:34.869 the consumer keeps biting, taking it on the chin because 350 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:37.730 our elected officials aren't doing what they're supposed to be 351 00:20:37.769 --> 00:20:40.990 doing when it comes to affordability. To your point, people 352 00:20:41.109 --> 00:20:45.049 are leaving the state. They're voting by walking. Right. And 353 00:20:45.130 --> 00:20:48.269 so the more we

lose people. the less tax revenue 354 00:20:48.309 --> 00:20:51.700 comes in, the less money that is available to do 355 00:20:51.740 --> 00:20:53.720 some of the things that a lot of these elected 356 00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:56.819 officials want to do. But they constantly don't want to 357 00:20:56.880 --> 00:20:59.750 address the difficult issues. And I think that is a 358 00:21:00.109 --> 00:21:05.089 major problem. Instead, they pass these bills or they propose 359 00:21:05.130 --> 00:21:08.309 these bills because that are only going to drive business 360 00:21:08.829 --> 00:21:11.109 out of New York State. You got one that just 361 00:21:11.150 --> 00:21:14.029 got proposed in the city council, which is going to 362 00:21:14.130 --> 00:21:18.289 lead to lawsuit after lawsuit against small businesses. It's called 363 00:21:18.309 --> 00:21:21.869 the Power Act. It gives trial lawyers the ability to 364 00:21:21.950 --> 00:21:25.609 sue small businesses, even if there's no economic harm. It 365 00:21:25.670 --> 00:21:29.769 is a bad bill. It is this constant influx of 366 00:21:29.869 --> 00:21:33.829 legislation that is constantly driving people out. 367 00:21:35.250 --> 00:21:39.420 And the other thing people have to realize, you have 19.5 368 00:21:39.420 --> 00:21:43.359 million people in New York, and you have 24 million 369 00:21:43.400 --> 00:21:46.660 people in Florida, and the budget for Florida for the 370 00:21:46.740 --> 00:21:53.009 whole state is $ 125 billion, and the budget for New 371 00:21:53.049 --> 00:21:55.589 York City and New York State is $ 400 billion. 372 00:21:57.049 --> 00:22:00.809 Well, I always say this to folks. We actually don't 373 00:22:00.849 --> 00:22:02.690 have a revenue problem in New York State. We have 374 00:22:02.710 --> 00:22:05.450 a spending problem in New York State. Our budget has 375 00:22:05.490 --> 00:22:08.549 gone up by well over $ 100 billion in 10 years. 376 00:22:08.549 --> 00:22:12.950 $ 100 billion. And what have we bought for it? We 377 00:22:12.990 --> 00:22:16.799 spend more on education than any other state. We've wasted 378 00:22:16.890 --> 00:22:20.480 money and consistently waste money in New York State. And 379 00:22:20.539 --> 00:22:23.720 now we're coming to a point where God forbid, you know, 380 00:22:23.740 --> 00:22:26.630 the AI bubble bursts or God forbid something happens in 381 00:22:27.190 --> 00:22:30.569 the stock market, we're going to be in a lot 382 00:22:30.609 --> 00:22:33.309 of trouble. But we keep spending and spending and spending. 383 00:22:33.349 --> 00:22:36.470 And the only people that get hit on the chin 384 00:22:36.950 --> 00:22:39.319 are the people listening to the show right now are 385 00:22:39.359 --> 00:22:42.460 the voters, because somehow it gets passed down to them 386 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:44.799 and they're ending up footing the bill. And that's why 387 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:45.519 they're leaving the state. 388 00:22:46.299 --> 00:22:50.250 Paul Zuber, let's talk during the week. God bless you 389 00:22:50.269 --> 00:22:50.990 and God bless America. 390 00:22:52.089 --> 00:22:52.609 Thank you, John. 391 00:22:54.950 --> 00:22:57.930 With us today is Jesse Arm, and he is the 392 00:22:57.970 --> 00:23:02.940 vice president of the Manhattan Institute. Election, nine days. What 393 00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:04.740 the heck is going on in New York? What the 394 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:06.599 heck is going on in the country? 395 00:23:07.230 --> 00:23:10.470 Well, John, we've got a big election coming up. The 396 00:23:10.670 --> 00:23:12.829 eyes of the nation are not so much on New 397 00:23:12.869 --> 00:23:15.710 York this time around, though it wouldn't be shocking if 398 00:23:15.730 --> 00:23:18.190 we saw some surprises in our own neck of the woods. 399 00:23:18.789 --> 00:23:21.230 Four years ago in the midterm elections, we saw a 400 00:23:21.250 --> 00:23:24.539 little bit of a surprise in New Jersey. Nobody anticipated 401 00:23:24.799 --> 00:23:27.839 that Jack Chiarelli, the Republican candidate, would only lose by 402 00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:30.640 three points, and it really took everyone for a surprise. 403 00:23:31.099 --> 00:23:34.099 And I think we may anticipate some surprises here in 404 00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:35.920 New York as well. There's been a lot of buzz 405 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:40.289 around Teresa Comitoretti, the Republican candidate for attorney general, who 406 00:23:40.349 --> 00:23:43.450 really did just a phenomenal job in her debate with 407 00:23:43.529 --> 00:23:45.730 Tish James, really kind of wiped the floor with her. 408 00:23:46.640 --> 00:23:49.180 And then even Bruce Blakeman is getting some attention. He's 409 00:23:49.259 --> 00:23:52.859 kept his waist closer in some of the polls more recently. 410 00:23:52.940 --> 00:23:56.000 He appears to be approaching single digits a couple of 411 00:23:56.039 --> 00:23:58.039 months ago, a couple of weeks ago. It didn't look 412 00:23:58.059 --> 00:24:00.720 that way. It looked to be more of a double-digit blowout. But, 413 00:24:00.769 --> 00:24:02.869 of course, more of the focus is going to be 414 00:24:02.930 --> 00:24:06.549 on some of these purple and even redder states around 415 00:24:06.569 --> 00:24:09.410 the country, where there are really going to be some 416 00:24:09.450 --> 00:24:13.630 dogfights that determine control of Congress and especially the United 417 00:24:13.650 --> 00:24:14.170 States Senate. 418 00:24:15.190 --> 00:24:19.049 We've got Congress, the Senate is both at stake, New 419 00:24:19.069 --> 00:24:21.670 York City, New York State, that's at stake. 420 00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:24.759 Well, one of the things that I'm really kind of 421 00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:29.299 anticipating is going to be a trend that doesn't necessarily 422 00:24:29.339 --> 00:24:32.019 stand out to just anybody quite yet, but is going 423 00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:34.039 to be something we

have to reckon with come election night, 424 00:24:34.079 --> 00:24:36.640 is that according to this polling, I'm seeing a lot 425 00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:41.730 of Democrats overperforming how they've traditionally done in red states, right? 426 00:24:41.789 --> 00:24:45.730 Places like Texas, places like Iowa, places like Nebraska, places 427 00:24:45.789 --> 00:24:49.269 like Kansas, where the Democrats really do seem poised to 428 00:24:49.309 --> 00:24:52.829 make a bit of a dent and where they look 429 00:24:52.990 --> 00:24:56.339 pretty positioned to win comfortably in places like North Carolina 430 00:24:56.410 --> 00:24:58.839 and Georgia in the Sun Belt. These are places that 431 00:24:58.880 --> 00:25:03.519 are not traditionally blue states. And meanwhile, Republicans are keeping 432 00:25:03.539 --> 00:25:08.190 things very competitive in Maine with Susan Collins, in Michigan 433 00:25:08.269 --> 00:25:12.089 with Mike Rogers, and even in Minnesota with Michelle Tafoya, 434 00:25:12.329 --> 00:25:16.390 places that have been traditionally much more blue. So I 435 00:25:16.470 --> 00:25:19.319 think that this is a headline or an insight from 436 00:25:19.339 --> 00:25:21.559 the race that may get lost in the shuffle if 437 00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:24.980 A guy like James Tallarico in Texas comes up just 438 00:25:25.019 --> 00:25:27.750 shy and gets really close but doesn't get quite over 439 00:25:27.809 --> 00:25:31.329 the finish line. Or a guy like Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan, 440 00:25:31.390 --> 00:25:35.190 who's a pretty extreme candidate, a pretty far-left candidate. if 441 00:25:35.289 --> 00:25:38.650 he gets just over the finish line, just barely wins. And, 442 00:25:38.970 --> 00:25:41.609 you know, say the Democratic governor candidate in Michigan, who's 443 00:25:41.650 --> 00:25:43.930 more mainstream, wins by like 10 points and he only 444 00:25:43.970 --> 00:25:46.930 wins by one. I don't know that anybody really learned 445 00:25:47.009 --> 00:25:50.009 the lessons of this election, which are that maybe voters 446 00:25:50.069 --> 00:25:52.809 are telling both parties they want something a little different. 447 00:25:52.849 --> 00:25:55.430 They want something a little bit more anchored toward the 448 00:25:55.529 --> 00:25:57.029 middle of the political spectrum. 449 00:25:57.630 --> 00:26:01.630 Jesse Arms, the vice president of Manhattan Institute, thank you 450 00:26:01.670 --> 00:26:04.380 for your wisdom. And we'll catch up with you again 451 00:26:04.390 --> 00:26:04.670 real soon. 452 00:26:05.230 --> 00:26:06.049 Good to be with you, John. 453 00:26:06.730 --> 00:26:09.269 Thank you for listening to the Catch Roundtable. We'll be 454 00:26:09.430 --> 00:26:12.990 right back right after this break. Welcome back to the 455 00:26:13.029 --> 00:26:13.710 Catch Roundtable. 456 00:26:14.670 --> 00:26:22.210 New Jersey, each day your beauty shines from farmland to 457 00:26:22.250 --> 00:26:25.759 the shore. 458 00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:31.000 Let's go to New Jersey. We have Congressman Jeff Andrew. Well, Congressman, 459 00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:33.480 you've got nine days in the election. 460 00:26:34.289 --> 00:26:34.529 Yep. 461 00:26:34.869 --> 00:26:36.690 I was just going to say that. I think that's 462 00:26:36.730 --> 00:26:39.400 what the update is at least partly about. It's a 463 00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:42.420 big deal. It's an important election. Now, we hear that 464 00:26:42.500 --> 00:26:45.200 every year. This is one of the most important elections ever, 465 00:26:45.700 --> 00:26:49.440 but it is nevertheless. It is in our generation's hands, 466 00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:51.819 some of us older, some of us middle-aged, some of 467 00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:54.200 us younger, but we're going to be the ones that 468 00:26:54.220 --> 00:26:57.559 are going to determine whether we keep this United States 469 00:26:57.619 --> 00:27:02.259 of America. And I like to point out That doesn't 470 00:27:02.299 --> 00:27:05.880 mean that Republicans are perfect or that we can't do 471 00:27:05.980 --> 00:27:09.299 better as a country or a society or everything is 472 00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:10.799 absolutely the way it should be. 473 00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:11.259 It's not. 474 00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:14.799 Yes, things are expensive. They've been worse. They were actually 475 00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:19.420 worse under Biden. But still, things are expensive. Oil is expensive. 476 00:27:19.460 --> 00:27:24.390 Gas is expensive. Much of that, though, is not only 477 00:27:24.410 --> 00:27:28.630 the Iran situation. It is the fact that we've had 478 00:27:28.750 --> 00:27:33.279 bad public health. energy policy under Joe Biden and Democrats 479 00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:36.539 in general. They wouldn't allow us to build new refineries, 480 00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:40.019 wouldn't allow us to build new pipelines, wouldn't allow us 481 00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:44.299 to build new gas plants and modernize gas plants. All 482 00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:48.089 of this, all of this has caused tremendous problems. Their 483 00:27:48.170 --> 00:27:52.869 answer to energy was that we should keep ourselves much 484 00:27:53.250 --> 00:27:56.630 hotter in the summertime, much colder in the wintertime, and 485 00:27:56.650 --> 00:27:58.880 that we need to be more like Europe. And I 486 00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:02.589 don't know how many times I've heard colleagues, quite frankly, 487 00:28:03.349 --> 00:28:06.529 on the other side of the aisle in Congress, in 488 00:28:06.630 --> 00:28:08.990 my committee, say, oh, no, we need to be a 489 00:28:09.029 --> 00:28:11.589 lot more like Europe. No, God help us. We don't 490 00:28:11.869 --> 00:28:14.690 want to be a lot more like Europe. We want 491 00:28:14.730 --> 00:28:17.230 the United States to live up to its full potential. 492 00:28:17.670 --> 00:28:20.789 That's why really think about what you do when you 493 00:28:20.829 -->

00:28:23.809 vote this year. You know, you're not voting for perfection. 494 00:28:24.369 --> 00:28:26.369 You're voting to keep America. 495 00:28:27.650 --> 00:28:30.880 I am for common sense Democrats and common sense Republicans, 496 00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:34.500 but it looks like the Democrats, because they're socialists, they 497 00:28:34.539 --> 00:28:38.039 have lost their mind. And the problem I have, even 498 00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:41.039 if out there you think you're voting for a common 499 00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:44.740 sense Democrat, well, if the leadership of the Democratic Party 500 00:28:44.779 --> 00:28:48.180 is socialist, they dare not go against the socialists. 501 00:28:49.630 --> 00:28:50.309 No doubt. 502 00:28:50.750 --> 00:28:54.069 And this is going to absolutely be... It's not just 503 00:28:54.089 --> 00:28:55.789 the word, by the way. You know, people say, well, 504 00:28:55.809 --> 00:28:58.710 what does that mean, socialist? It really does mean you 505 00:28:58.750 --> 00:29:01.289 have less freedom, that you do have less of an 506 00:29:01.329 --> 00:29:03.890 ability to start a new business, that you do have 507 00:29:03.930 --> 00:29:08.089 less opportunity. It means a lot that isn't good, that 508 00:29:08.130 --> 00:29:10.009 we don't want to have in America. 509 00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:11.210 America. 510 00:29:11.900 --> 00:29:15.019 is the leader. America is a shining city on the hill. 511 00:29:15.380 --> 00:29:18.440 We can do extraordinary things in this country, and we 512 00:29:18.500 --> 00:29:22.000 haven't even gotten near our full potential. If we unleash 513 00:29:22.059 --> 00:29:26.039 our American energy, we can have a better economy. Everybody 514 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:30.349 can do better. You know, people say, what's your economic plan, 515 00:29:30.410 --> 00:29:33.450 you know, for economics in this country? Part of it 516 00:29:33.670 --> 00:29:36.609 is just to really make sure we have energy dominance, 517 00:29:36.670 --> 00:29:39.609 which we can do. Europe cannot do it. The reason 518 00:29:39.650 --> 00:29:42.720 they have wind turbines, the reason that so many people 519 00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:45.400 there have to live in apartments and don't have homes 520 00:29:46.059 --> 00:29:48.799 and all that goes along with it is because they 521 00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:52.670 don't have the ability to do that. America does. Can 522 00:29:52.710 --> 00:29:55.009 we make some changes that are good? Absolutely. Do we 523 00:29:55.049 --> 00:29:58.619 need to do more with health care? absolutely without question. 524 00:29:58.940 --> 00:30:01.480 Do we need to do better with energy? Yes, we do. 525 00:30:02.220 --> 00:30:04.500 And there are ways to do that where we can 526 00:30:04.539 --> 00:30:06.640 do much, much better. It's not going to happen in 527 00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:08.710 a day or a week or a month, but we've 528 00:30:08.750 --> 00:30:09.589 got to work on that. 529 00:30:10.630 --> 00:30:14.930 Congressman Jeff Van Drew, God bless you and God bless America. 530 00:30:14.970 --> 00:30:15.490 You know what? 531 00:30:15.970 --> 00:30:19.009 I'll leave with this final thought. One of the people 532 00:30:19.049 --> 00:30:22.579 I admired most in history was Winston Churchill. Not an American, 533 00:30:22.619 --> 00:30:25.660 but had a lot of American values and a great man. 534 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:27.880 And he had a lot of great quotes, and one 535 00:30:27.900 --> 00:30:31.910 of the simple quotes he had, very simple, never, never, 536 00:30:32.650 --> 00:30:36.329 never give up. Ladies and gentlemen, please don't give up 537 00:30:36.410 --> 00:30:37.329 on the United States. 538 00:30:38.750 --> 00:30:44.920 The Cats Roundtable. With us today is Stylo Saposakis, and 539 00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:51.299 he's running for Congress in the northwest district of, I guess, 540 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:56.109 the Bronx. And Stylo's... Tell us why you're running for 541 00:30:56.140 --> 00:30:59.210 Congress and tell us about the area you're running in. Okay. 542 00:30:59.230 --> 00:31:00.990 Well, first off, John, thank you for having me on 543 00:31:01.029 --> 00:31:03.950 the show. Yes, I'm running for the northwest of the Bronx. 544 00:31:04.170 --> 00:31:06.930 I am running for District 15th. I'm running as a 545 00:31:06.970 --> 00:31:11.750 Republican candidate for the Congressional District. And my opponent, of course, 546 00:31:11.970 --> 00:31:16.369 is Congressman Richie Torres, who is a Democrat. And my 547 00:31:16.430 --> 00:31:26.970 district represents Arlington, Bathgate, Baychester, Belmont, Claremont, Eastchester, Fordham. Highbridge, Melrose, Morrisania, 548 00:31:27.369 --> 00:31:33.250 Morris Park, Mott Haven, Norwood, Olinville, Parkchester, Riverdale. 549 00:31:33.369 --> 00:31:34.089 That's a lot of. 550 00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:35.880 Area. 551 00:31:36.230 --> 00:31:39.240 Now, Stylos, tell me, why should people vote for you 552 00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:43.339 instead of running for, I guess, voting for Richard Torres? 553 00:31:43.740 --> 00:31:46.400 Let's start from the beginning. Richard Torres, from the very beginning, 554 00:31:46.920 --> 00:31:49.740 wanted to defund the police. And I spoke about this 555 00:31:49.779 --> 00:31:51.579 the last time when I was running for public office 556 00:31:51.900 --> 00:31:53.259 about a year ago when I was on your show 557 00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:56.410 the last time. And things still haven't changed. He wants 558 00:31:56.430 --> 00:31:59.279 to defund the police. He advocates with the mayor. Mayor 559 00:31:59.299 --> 00:32:02.339 Mondami is the same way. He wants to defund the police. 560 00:32:02.420 --> 00:32:06.420 And funny enough, they want to replace police with social workers, 561 00:32:06.460 --> 00:32:10.819 which is very absurd. Now, as you know, crime has 562 00:32:10.859 --> 00:32:15.609 been staggering. It's been rising. Even as far as racial

crimes, 563 00:32:15.670 --> 00:32:20.170 it's been up now 15 percent in the city. And 564 00:32:20.269 --> 00:32:23.470 Richard Torres still hasn't seen that, and he doesn't seem 565 00:32:23.490 --> 00:32:25.809 to understand that, and yet he still wants to defund 566 00:32:25.849 --> 00:32:28.970 the police. These are staggering numbers, and I can't understand 567 00:32:29.049 --> 00:32:31.819 why he isn't doing anything, plus the fact that the 568 00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:35.279 police were at 31,000 on the roster right now as 569 00:32:35.299 --> 00:32:38.759 we're speaking, and we're declining steadily, and we're at a 570 00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:42.960 major deficit for the city, and crime is still coming 571 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.059 out of control, and it is, and it's staggering, as 572 00:32:45.140 --> 00:32:47.920 I said. And he's not doing anything to be so 573 00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:51.240 inclined to raise those numbers. Now, for me, if I 574 00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:54.740 was a congressman, you would have to give 10,000 more 575 00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:58.000 additional officers on the roster because we need the additional 576 00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:01.460 officers because we're declining and the city is in disarray 577 00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:02.640 with crime as it is. 578 00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:08.319 Well, Stylos Sapabaskis. You know, I know your grandmother's name, 579 00:33:09.380 --> 00:33:14.400 but that's your mother's married name. Stylo, thank you for 580 00:33:14.460 --> 00:33:18.589 calling in, and you're running for the Northwest District of 581 00:33:18.650 --> 00:33:22.230 the Bronx, and that's the 13th Congressional District, and you're 582 00:33:22.269 --> 00:33:25.769 running against Richie Torres. Good luck. Thank you for calling in. 583 00:33:26.309 --> 00:33:26.950 Thank you, John. 584 00:33:28.430 --> 00:33:33.819 We have with us Indy Peterson. UFOs, it's almost everybody's 585 00:33:33.859 --> 00:33:38.339 favorite subject lately. He has a new book about UFOs. Well, 586 00:33:38.500 --> 00:33:40.920 Indy Peterson, tell us about it and tell us how 587 00:33:40.940 --> 00:33:42.349 you got interested in UFOs. 588 00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:47.490 So I got interested because I purchased an island. I 589 00:33:47.490 --> 00:33:51.529 was building a $ 60 million resort on an island in Patagonia, 590 00:33:52.049 --> 00:33:54.650 and the locals warned me it was a known UFO base. 591 00:33:55.009 --> 00:33:57.450 And I laughed because I didn't believe in UFOs because 592 00:33:57.529 --> 00:33:59.529 no one could get a decent picture of one, and 593 00:33:59.569 --> 00:34:02.740 they supposedly travel light years only to crash. But I 594 00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:04.759 found out they were right because I was on the 595 00:34:04.819 --> 00:34:09.519 front lines of a UFO invasion, witnessed the world's largest 596 00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:13.090 cattle mutilation, and witnessed an orb two feet in front 597 00:34:13.110 --> 00:34:13.570 of my face. 598 00:34:14.309 --> 00:34:15.909 Now, you saw them with your own eyes? 599 00:34:16.630 --> 00:34:16.869 Yes. 600 00:34:17.289 --> 00:34:20.869 I literally had one of the orbs that Jay Stratton 601 00:34:21.070 --> 00:34:23.849 talks about in his book. Jay Stratton vindicated me in 602 00:34:23.889 --> 00:34:27.909 his recent book. He's the highest-ranking military person to ever 603 00:34:28.090 --> 00:34:33.329 go public investigating the UFOs. He vindicated me on a 604 00:34:33.429 --> 00:34:36.550 couple of things. Number one, I wrote in my book, 605 00:34:36.769 --> 00:34:41.309 Sacrificing Humanity Over a Year Ago, that these orbs are 606 00:34:41.349 --> 00:34:44.570 delivery vehicles for aliens because this orb that was two 607 00:34:44.630 --> 00:34:46.829 feet in front of my face, my business partner and 608 00:34:46.849 --> 00:34:50.030 I witnessed it in remote Patagonia. It was literally just 609 00:34:50.090 --> 00:34:52.639 on the other side of the side window of the truck. 610 00:34:53.179 --> 00:34:54.840 And I was looking inside of it. It looks like 611 00:34:54.860 --> 00:34:58.809 this massive fusion reaction going on inside of it. sphere 612 00:34:58.849 --> 00:35:00.789 about the size of a bowling ball, about an inch 613 00:35:00.829 --> 00:35:04.170 smaller than a basketball. And then it started growing. And 614 00:35:05.219 --> 00:35:08.260 Jay Stratton vindicated me on this. I wrote about this 615 00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:10.360 over a year ago in my book, Sacrifice to Humanity. 616 00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:12.679 And everyone said, that's not possible. Orbs can't do this. 617 00:35:13.460 --> 00:35:16.820 And in fact, it did. He said in his book 618 00:35:17.219 --> 00:35:21.639 that an orb, he watched on security camera, probably military, 619 00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:24.000 that an orb came down to the ground and a 620 00:35:24.059 --> 00:35:27.360 bipedal being walked out of it. Well, I witnessed the 621 00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:30.550 same thing. And I wrote about it over a year ago. 622 00:35:31.329 --> 00:35:34.469 And finally, I've been vindicated because everyone said that's not possible. 623 00:35:34.690 --> 00:35:38.849 It can't happen. But it is. Now, the one. 624 00:35:38.730 --> 00:35:45.179 Thing we're talking about, Pelagonia, but 99% of the people 625 00:35:45.219 --> 00:35:48.159 listening to this interview don't know where that is. Can 626 00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:50.320 you tell us where that is? 627 00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:56.559 That's in southern remote Chile and Argentina. It's the entire 628 00:35:56.719 --> 00:36:01.340 southern tip of both countries. And so I watched that 629 00:36:01.579 --> 00:36:07.679 orb grow and materialize into an alien being that was 630 00:36:07.940 --> 00:36:11.739 materializing in front of me. I was also vindicated recently, 631 00:36:11.820 --> 00:36:15.190 not just by Jay Stratton, but a military file that 632 00:36:15.230 --> 00:36:19.690 was released

called anamorphismuap.mov. 633 00:36:19.730 --> 00:36:20.019 It was a. 634 00:36:19.969 --> 00:36:26.820 Mil file, a military file from Whistleblower, and it did 635 00:36:26.860 --> 00:36:31.420 the same thing. It was materializing. It's called anamorphism, which 636 00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:37.079 is a biological term. Not amorphism, but anamorphism, which means 637 00:36:37.139 --> 00:36:44.019 that the legs and arms are born or grow last. 638 00:36:44.179 --> 00:36:47.210 So they come in last, which is exactly what I witnessed. 639 00:36:47.769 --> 00:36:52.070 So these orbs are delivery vehicles for aliens that are 640 00:36:52.210 --> 00:36:57.110 arriving on the front lines of Argentina, Brazil, Chile. 641 00:36:57.650 --> 00:36:59.909 Have you seen any aliens? 642 00:36:59.929 --> 00:37:04.800 Yes, an alien was literally coming out of this orb. 643 00:37:05.579 --> 00:37:06.579 What did it look like? 644 00:37:07.219 --> 00:37:12.480 Well, it's materializing. If you think of the movie Star Trek, 645 00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:15.199 where they are like particles all coming together. 646 00:37:15.219 --> 00:37:17.199 And what year was this? 647 00:37:17.739 --> 00:37:19.849 This was 2015. 648 00:37:19.829 --> 00:37:23.409 Did you have a cell phone? Did you take a picture? 649 00:37:23.960 --> 00:37:26.639 Cell phones don't work down there, so I don't even 650 00:37:26.699 --> 00:37:31.460 bother taking them down. You don't need a signal to 651 00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:32.119 take a picture. 652 00:37:32.139 --> 00:37:33.090 You can just take a picture. 653 00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:36.010 No, I know, but I wasn't there for tourist reasons. 654 00:37:36.130 --> 00:37:39.050 I was there on business, and there's no cell towers 655 00:37:39.530 --> 00:37:43.429 in the region of southern Patagonia, so they're worthless, and 656 00:37:43.469 --> 00:37:46.219 we've got thieves running around everywhere stealing things, and the 657 00:37:46.260 --> 00:37:48.139 last thing you want is your phone stolen. 658 00:37:49.469 --> 00:37:54.480 What proof do you have that you saw these or 659 00:37:54.539 --> 00:37:56.019 visualized them or whatever? 660 00:37:56.880 --> 00:38:00.840 Dozens, perhaps hundreds of people in Patagonia had what they 661 00:38:00.860 --> 00:38:05.050 call in Spanish a una psicosis collectiva, a mass panic. 662 00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:09.650 It was on every single major news station in Chile 663 00:38:10.150 --> 00:38:14.150 where they witnessed the world's largest cattle mutilation while there 664 00:38:14.190 --> 00:38:16.750 was the UFOs in the sky everywhere. and their cows 665 00:38:16.809 --> 00:38:20.769 are being exsanguinated. I was there at the site the 666 00:38:20.809 --> 00:38:27.010 morning after. Dozens were exsanguinated in one single night, just 667 00:38:27.230 --> 00:38:32.360 directly across from my island, and 1,500 in Argentina simultaneously 668 00:38:32.659 --> 00:38:35.980 and in Uruguay as well. And the Uruguayan Air Force 669 00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:39.039 UFO Division investigated it. All this is in my book, 670 00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:44.699 Sacrificing Humanity. So it covered thousands of miles, thousands of cows, 671 00:38:45.389 --> 00:38:47.510 all within a few nights, all in June. 672 00:38:47.969 --> 00:38:50.469 Thank you for calling in. Where can people buy your book? 673 00:38:51.369 --> 00:38:55.289 It's on Amazon, and it's also on sacrificinghumanity.com. 674 00:38:56.070 --> 00:38:58.860 Thank you so much for coming on, and we'll catch 675 00:38:58.909 --> 00:38:59.909 up with you again real soon. 676 00:39:00.489 --> 00:39:01.489 Yeah, I would look forward to it. 677 00:39:01.539 --> 00:39:01.880 Thank you. 678 00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:04.960 Thank you for listening to the Catch Roundtable. We'll be 679 00:39:05.139 --> 00:39:08.639 right back, right after this break. Welcome back to the 680 00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:09.480 Catch Roundtable. 681 00:39:09.900 --> 00:39:11.179 Welcome back to the Catch Roundtable. 682 00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:22.969 Steve Cates is with us. Well, also known as Dr. Sky. 683 00:39:23.650 --> 00:39:27.010 What's going to tickle our minds today, Steve Cates? 684 00:39:27.829 --> 00:39:29.670 Well, I got a lot, John. Good Sunday morning to 685 00:39:29.690 --> 00:39:32.619 you and the listeners. How about this? A Russian satellite 686 00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:36.579 is confirmed to stalking another satellite. What's that all about? 687 00:39:37.219 --> 00:39:42.920 Russian satellite called Cosmos 2612 has closed in, John, on 688 00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:46.349 a surveillance satellite that's U.S. registered. It's called ICI X36. 689 00:39:49.260 --> 00:39:53.349 This is an imaging satellite that the Ukrainians have used 690 00:39:53.789 --> 00:39:57.329 to be able to detect Russian activity. So this particular 691 00:39:57.389 --> 00:40:03.190 Cosmos 2612, John, has come probably within 100 feet of 692 00:40:03.230 --> 00:40:06.610 this particular satellite to allegedly spy on it. But this 693 00:40:06.650 --> 00:40:10.000 is not the first time that this has happened. In 2020, 694 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:15.389 another Russian satellite called Cosmos 2542 actually came very close 695 00:40:15.429 --> 00:40:20.710 to one of our so-called secret satellites, USA-245. So this 696 00:40:20.769 --> 00:40:23.909 is quite an interesting thing, because the satellite that's being 697 00:40:23.989 --> 00:40:26.159 spied on, the one that we just talked about, the 698 00:40:26.199 --> 00:40:30.199 first one, it uses, John, something called synthetic imaging radar. 699 00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:30.719 What is that? 700 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:34.300 It's radar that penetrates deep below the Earth. So the 701 00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:38.139 Ukrainians have been using this to fight against Russia. That's 702 00:40:38.179 --> 00:40:41.500 an interesting story of proof that we're now having the 703 00:40:41.539 --> 00:40:45.380 prelude to some

surveillance activities in outer space by satellites. 704 00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:49.900 Space Force has some interesting... I hear there's some very 705 00:40:49.980 --> 00:40:56.119 interesting aircraft up there, or craft, not aircraft, and with 706 00:40:56.159 --> 00:41:01.170 some interesting weapons, and I hear that we're doing a 707 00:41:01.789 --> 00:41:04.750 good job protecting America and the free world. 708 00:41:05.849 --> 00:41:08.469 Absolutely, John, and it's been identified by the Secretary of 709 00:41:08.489 --> 00:41:12.460 the Air Force and others, even Raging Cane, our general 710 00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:16.449 who heads, of course, the entire military, that apparently America 711 00:41:16.510 --> 00:41:20.050 has some sort of weapons in space. But, John, here's 712 00:41:20.090 --> 00:41:24.909 a great story. We shift gears. Japan's Martian moon exploration mission. 713 00:41:24.929 --> 00:41:27.750 You and I love to talk about Mars. So it 714 00:41:27.769 --> 00:41:31.070 was launched last week. And what it is, John, it's 715 00:41:31.150 --> 00:41:33.849 a spacecraft headed to one of the moons of Mars 716 00:41:33.949 --> 00:41:34.869 called OVOS. 717 00:41:35.969 --> 00:41:42.949 Is that the one that supposedly shot down the other probe? Yes. 718 00:41:43.429 --> 00:41:46.670 And this is an interesting continuation of the story, John, 719 00:41:46.710 --> 00:41:50.090 because nobody really knows what the nature of Phobos and 720 00:41:50.130 --> 00:41:53.489 the other moon called Deimos. And Phobos is only 12 721 00:41:53.489 --> 00:41:56.789 miles in diameter, John. And it has a crater on 722 00:41:56.849 --> 00:41:59.960 it called Stinkney that's about nine miles across. So whatever 723 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:02.800 that means, how this little moon was formed. But what's 724 00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:05.519 why is this an important news story? This is the 725 00:42:05.579 --> 00:42:09.199 first time, John, when the spacecraft reaches this particular moon 726 00:42:09.219 --> 00:42:12.940 in August of 2027, It will then deploy a little 727 00:42:13.019 --> 00:42:16.059 rover down to the surface to scoop up some material 728 00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:20.280 and bring it back to Earth maybe sometime after 2030. 729 00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:22.239 So the first time, John, that we're going to actually 730 00:42:22.260 --> 00:42:26.639 get something from that area of Mars and the strangest moon, 731 00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:30.320 because over the next few million years, that Phobos, John, 732 00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:33.429 is going to literally run in and crash onto the 733 00:42:33.469 --> 00:42:35.329 surface of Mars. 734 00:42:35.889 --> 00:42:37.989 Only if the Martians allow us to get it. 735 00:42:39.130 --> 00:42:42.199 Absolutely, John. And we end off with the mystery of 736 00:42:42.219 --> 00:42:43.969 the week. And this has been in the news, John, 737 00:42:43.989 --> 00:42:47.190 but it needs further clarification. The question is, how does 738 00:42:47.230 --> 00:42:51.210 the new Tesla Roadster, a so-called flying car, actually work? 739 00:42:51.789 --> 00:42:55.050 And this is fascinating. The new Tesla Roadster does not 740 00:42:55.110 --> 00:43:00.139 truly fly, John. Instead, it uses high-pressure cold gas thrusters. 741 00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:02.900 And what happens on this, John, it also has the 742 00:43:02.940 --> 00:43:07.840 capability to fire those little so-called rockets with air. And 743 00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:10.199 it also has the capability, as many saw when they 744 00:43:10.219 --> 00:43:13.659 saw the demonstration of this car upside down. I thought 745 00:43:13.699 --> 00:43:15.579 it was fake. I thought it was AI, but it 746 00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:19.050 was real. It also has the ability to have vacuum 747 00:43:19.139 --> 00:43:22.610 suction in the form of some two Gs of force 748 00:43:22.650 --> 00:43:25.849 to hold something upside down. But the real truth, John, 749 00:43:25.929 --> 00:43:28.849 is it's only something that can hop and jump and 750 00:43:28.869 --> 00:43:32.280 move forward, but not fly, as we saw in Back 751 00:43:32.300 --> 00:43:35.139 to the Future. when the classic line of the doc, 752 00:43:35.219 --> 00:43:37.940 as many people remember the great trilogy of those movies, 753 00:43:38.599 --> 00:43:41.360 he said to his partner in the car, and I quote, 754 00:43:41.940 --> 00:43:45.039 where we're going, they don't need roads. So lots of 755 00:43:45.099 --> 00:43:48.019 mystery around this Tesla car. I wonder, John, how much 756 00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:50.300 that thing would cost. But how could you use it 757 00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:53.360 in traffic? And if many people have them, you might 758 00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:54.940 have some midair collisions, you think? 759 00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:57.920 Well, you know, I think of flying cars. I think 760 00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:00.300 of the Jetsons 50 years ago, 60 years ago. 761 00:44:01.969 --> 00:44:04.809 Well, if we can perfect that, there's other companies out there, John, 762 00:44:04.829 --> 00:44:09.409 that are perfecting the true drone-type technology for cars. But again, 763 00:44:09.469 --> 00:44:12.690 who's going to manage the skyways instead of the roadways? 764 00:44:13.309 --> 00:44:15.170 That's another subject for another time. 765 00:44:15.349 --> 00:44:17.889 Well, the FAA has not done a good job lately 766 00:44:17.969 --> 00:44:18.809 even with aircraft. 767 00:44:19.889 --> 00:44:22.329 I would totally agree with you, John, as we conclude 768 00:44:22.389 --> 00:44:25.230 Sunday morning here with many of the things that people 769 00:44:25.289 --> 00:44:27.670 probably don't hear about, and we try to bring them 770 00:44:27.710 --> 00:44:31.750 together to open our minds about great mysteries and current events. 771 00:44:32.059 --> 00:44:33.300 that we thought are important. 772 00:44:33.860 --> 00:44:37.420 Steve Cates, otherwise known as

Dr. Sky, thank you so 773 00:44:37.460 --> 00:44:40.019 much for coming on, and thank you so much, and 774 00:44:40.139 --> 00:44:41.000 we'll talk again soon. 775 00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:44.320 Thank you, John. Have a good Sunday, and thanks to 776 00:44:45.250 --> 00:44:46.530 the listeners. 777 00:44:47.829 --> 00:44:50.050 What is today's Dr. Mark Siegel? 778 00:44:50.110 --> 00:44:50.570 And Dr. 779 00:44:50.610 --> 00:44:51.969 Siegel, what the heck is going on? 780 00:44:52.590 --> 00:44:54.510 Well, one of the things that is going on that 781 00:44:54.570 --> 00:44:57.969 you sent to me is that the inside data or 782 00:44:58.050 --> 00:45:01.420 data from Moderna doesn't back up the results that were 783 00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:06.090 shown on the mRNA vaccine against melanoma, which is interesting 784 00:45:06.110 --> 00:45:07.889 because I spoke to some of the authors on that 785 00:45:07.989 --> 00:45:12.690 study recently that were even here at NYU, and they 786 00:45:12.789 --> 00:45:14.969 actually are excited about it. But it points to a 787 00:45:15.010 --> 00:45:19.469 larger issue, which is transparency in research. You know, how 788 00:45:19.489 --> 00:45:21.880 do we know that the information we're getting on clinical 789 00:45:21.940 --> 00:45:25.619 trials is accurate? And we always worry about that, and 790 00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:28.889 we're always suspicious about that. And that's why the best 791 00:45:28.969 --> 00:45:32.110 people in the world that study science don't look at 792 00:45:32.150 --> 00:45:35.889 press releases, don't look at what they write in People magazine. 793 00:45:35.929 --> 00:45:39.829 They only look at the original data itself. The original 794 00:45:39.869 --> 00:45:40.710 data is key. 795 00:45:41.409 --> 00:45:43.550 So you think that we don't have all the information 796 00:45:43.570 --> 00:45:44.429 yet to make a decision? 797 00:45:45.269 --> 00:45:49.789 We don't, and we never do. And that brings to 798 00:45:49.849 --> 00:45:53.070 mind another issue is, do we know how to read studies? 799 00:45:53.690 --> 00:45:55.670 Who's talking to us, and do they know how to 800 00:45:55.730 --> 00:45:58.929 read studies in the first place? You know, I actually 801 00:45:59.050 --> 00:46:01.670 took biostatistics when I was a resident with one of 802 00:46:01.710 --> 00:46:05.840 the most boring bow-tie guys that you're ever going to meet. 803 00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:08.219 You and me, John, would have dinner with this guy. 804 00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:10.300 His name was Thompson. We would have dinner with him, 805 00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:12.780 and we would fall asleep at the table. But he 806 00:46:12.820 --> 00:46:16.670 made some great points. How many people are studied? How 807 00:46:16.710 --> 00:46:20.860 were they studied? Was there a bias? Was it truly double-blinded, 808 00:46:20.940 --> 00:46:24.699 or did the investigators actually know what they were getting into? 809 00:46:25.099 --> 00:46:28.980 Was the data cherry-picked? Who was in the study? Who 810 00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:31.900 was excluded from the study? And what else could have 811 00:46:31.940 --> 00:46:33.619 caused the result? Dr. 812 00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:36.989 Mark Siegel, you know what you remind me of? The 813 00:46:37.110 --> 00:46:40.989 pollsters in today's polls that are polling what's going to 814 00:46:41.010 --> 00:46:41.969 happen in the election. 815 00:46:42.869 --> 00:46:46.849 I'm wondering how people are looking at facts today. And 816 00:46:46.929 --> 00:46:49.789 that's another issue. That's not the clinical trial issue, but 817 00:46:49.849 --> 00:46:52.650 that's how we look at facts. We have that going 818 00:46:52.750 --> 00:46:54.610 on in Iowa right now. I just did a big 819 00:46:54.690 --> 00:46:58.170 op-ed on this issue of what's in the water. And 820 00:46:58.349 --> 00:47:01.769 everybody is saying, well, the water worries us in Iowa 821 00:47:01.809 --> 00:47:06.789 because of spillover from corn or spillover from soy or 822 00:47:06.849 --> 00:47:10.389 spillover from hog farming. We're worried about the water. We 823 00:47:10.409 --> 00:47:13.300 don't know if the nitrates are converting into something that 824 00:47:13.340 --> 00:47:15.019 could be carcinogenic or not. 825 00:47:15.409 --> 00:47:17.989 Well, I'll tell you what I found out. I was 826 00:47:18.050 --> 00:47:20.760 drinking a certain water, and I don't want to mention it. 827 00:47:21.690 --> 00:47:25.460 I was drinking the water, and when I started drinking 828 00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:29.199 it until I stopped drinking it, my arsenic count went 829 00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:32.139 from normal, which is 1 to 12, and went up 830 00:47:32.420 --> 00:47:37.329 to 31. I stopped drinking it. Within 3, 4, 5 months, 831 00:47:37.369 --> 00:47:38.329 it went back down to 12th. 832 00:47:39.380 --> 00:47:43.280 No, I totally believe that. And by the way, that 833 00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:46.679 applies to kosher chickens as well. Some of the kosher 834 00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:50.849 chickens are washed in arsenic. And my wife, who you know, 835 00:47:51.690 --> 00:47:55.409 my wife is a top neurologist that tests a lot 836 00:47:55.449 --> 00:47:59.320 of people that are having... tremors or memory issues for 837 00:47:59.469 --> 00:48:02.760 arsenic content, and she finds it a lot of the time. And, 838 00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:04.940 you know, people are eating a lot of tuna fish 839 00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:07.820 coming out of cans without knowing and not thinking about it. 840 00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:10.619 So I'm not saying I'm against that. I love tuna fish, 841 00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:12.320 by the way. Let me tell you. 842 00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.500 Something else, too. We went to a dinner at the 843 00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:19.619 Hilton Hotel last week. They served a swordfish, which is 844 00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:22.780 the richest one in mercury, and I started yelling at 845

00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:23.940 the people running the dinner. 846 00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:29.019 Swordfish is a problem. It tastes good, but it's totally 847 00:48:29.059 --> 00:48:32.380 a problem. And people are eating it way too much. 848 00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:37.039 Well, Dr. Mark Siegel, anything else you want to say? 849 00:48:37.050 --> 00:48:39.570 Yeah, I want to talk about the Pope. And I 850 00:48:39.590 --> 00:48:41.750 want to tell you that I'm really happy with the 851 00:48:41.849 --> 00:48:44.469 outcome here. And, you know, it's an interesting thing about 852 00:48:44.510 --> 00:48:48.139 the news cycle. That things end and you don't hear 853 00:48:48.199 --> 00:48:51.360 about them afterwards. We were hoping and praying for the Pope. 854 00:48:51.989 --> 00:48:54.820 and that he wouldn't have any cancer in his lymph nodes, 855 00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:57.519 and that they got it all out. And everybody in 856 00:48:57.539 --> 00:49:00.300 the world is praying for this man because he's really 857 00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:04.320 a great pope and healthy before this. And the news 858 00:49:04.380 --> 00:49:08.420 came back yesterday. He's clear. The pope is clear. And 859 00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:11.849 now we hope and pray for decades of good health 860 00:49:11.909 --> 00:49:12.610 with this pope. 861 00:49:13.190 --> 00:49:16.230 Maybe God is watching over him. You know, the pope 862 00:49:16.269 --> 00:49:19.030 and the patriarch and the chief rabbi, they're pretty close 863 00:49:19.050 --> 00:49:19.369 to God. 864 00:49:20.659 --> 00:49:23.699 You know one thing I learned? I learned that it 865 00:49:23.780 --> 00:49:27.699 isn't one religion. It's symbols that cross lines. I think 866 00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:32.570 you know because you were involved with this, but when 867 00:49:32.610 --> 00:49:37.010 I lost my father early in the year, a pair 868 00:49:37.170 --> 00:49:40.869 of geese visited me on my on my front lawn, 869 00:49:40.969 --> 00:49:44.349 on my back lawn in Sag Harbor in January. And 870 00:49:44.389 --> 00:49:47.170 I said, what are these geese doing here? And then 871 00:49:47.190 --> 00:49:50.239 I started reading about geese. And these were wild Irish geese, 872 00:49:50.659 --> 00:49:53.440 which is a symbol for the Holy Spirit. And my 873 00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:56.500 father ended up passing on St. Patrick's Day. So I 874 00:49:56.539 --> 00:49:59.739 know those geese were coming to send me a message. 875 00:50:00.389 --> 00:50:03.420 And that wasn't a matter whether I was Jewish or 876 00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:07.039 Catholic or whatever I was. The message was strong, and 877 00:50:07.059 --> 00:50:09.460 the message was the same. That's in my new book, 878 00:50:09.500 --> 00:50:10.840 The Angels Among Us, by the way. 879 00:50:11.579 --> 00:50:13.780 Thank you so much, Dr. Siegel, and we'll catch up 880 00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:14.639 with you again real soon. 881 00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:16.639 Thanks, John. Thanks for having me. 882 00:50:18.219 --> 00:50:24.019 With us is Tony Carbonetti, Chief of Staff to Rudy Giuliani. Well, Tony, 883 00:50:24.420 --> 00:50:29.260 you guys honored Tom Ridge, Homeland Security, honored. 884 00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:32.800 Rudy Giuliani last week. Tell us about it. 885 00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:33.079 Yep. 886 00:50:33.119 --> 00:50:35.199 Rudy came back to the city. You know, he's no 887 00:50:35.260 --> 00:50:38.409 longer a city resident. He came back and he did 888 00:50:38.449 --> 00:50:41.230 a speech the other night at Cipriani. It was wonderful. 889 00:50:41.889 --> 00:50:44.570 But it's wonderful to see him. He was very well received. 890 00:50:45.269 --> 00:50:47.730 I think he's the reason New York City is still standing. 891 00:50:48.610 --> 00:50:52.599 You were Rudy's chief of staff for eight years and 892 00:50:52.619 --> 00:50:54.119 you've been living in New York forever. 893 00:50:54.690 --> 00:50:56.050 I was with him for eight, and I wasn't chief 894 00:50:56.090 --> 00:50:57.789 of staff the whole eight, but I'm a New Yorker. 895 00:50:58.409 --> 00:51:01.429 We understand the vibe of New York City. I'm worried 896 00:51:01.469 --> 00:51:05.739 that we've lost our swagger. I'm worried that New York City, 897 00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:11.960 you don't feel the enthusiasm anymore. It's become too much 898 00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:14.909 of an us versus them. New York City's always been 899 00:51:14.929 --> 00:51:18.429 the one place where we were all in this together, 900 00:51:19.449 --> 00:51:22.570 and I get worried that I think the whole country 901 00:51:22.590 --> 00:51:24.909 has kind of become the us versus them, the black 902 00:51:24.949 --> 00:51:27.250 and white. I don't mean black and white people. I 903 00:51:27.289 --> 00:51:30.489 mean just black and white opinions. If you don't agree 904 00:51:30.510 --> 00:51:33.449 with someone 100%, you know, that's it. You're my enemy. 905 00:51:33.650 --> 00:51:35.869 And I disagree with that whole philosophy. 906 00:51:37.090 --> 00:51:40.289 We've got elections in nine days. What's going to happen? 907 00:51:41.429 --> 00:51:45.409 As a Republican, I'm very worried. I don't see any 908 00:51:45.530 --> 00:51:49.659 scenario by which we can keep the House. I hope 909 00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:54.039 we keep the Senate. I am very worried. I think 910 00:51:54.139 --> 00:51:57.099 Al-Sayed wins, and I'll tell you why I think he wins. 911 00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:03.500 They have to stop the same attack, you know, this 912 00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:09.349 Muslim Brotherhood, this he must be some kind of terrorist. 913 00:52:09.769 --> 00:52:11.869 The people that are going to vote against him for that, 914 00:52:12.110 --> 00:52:15.469 you already have. Make a case as to why he's 915 00:52:15.510 --> 00:52:18.429 not going to be a good senator, okay? Make a 916 00:52:18.489 --> 00:52:23.309 case as to he's not qualified because he's never done X, Y, 917 00:52:23.349 --> 00:52:25.750 or Z, or these are the issues he's going to 918 00:52:25.789 --> 00:52:29.449 vote against. Start talking about other issues. Stop trying to 919 00:52:29.570 --> 00:52:33.190 scare people into voting against him because the people that 920 00:52:33.210 --> 00:52:35.309 are going to vote against him because his name sounds 921 00:52:35.389 --> 00:52:37.679 funny or they think he's a terrorist, they're already voting 922 00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:40.280 against him. You know what I'm saying? 923 00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:40.420 Yes. 924 00:52:40.460 --> 00:52:41.340 You've got to stop that. 925 00:52:42.500 --> 00:52:46.199 Well, anything else you want to tell the American people 926 00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:46.760 and New Yorkers? 927 00:52:47.309 --> 00:52:50.610 I'm worried about Texas. I'm worried about Texas. I think 928 00:52:50.630 --> 00:52:52.150 we should have kept Cornyn. I think it would have 929 00:52:52.170 --> 00:52:56.090 been a layup if we'd kept Cornyn. I'm hearing things 930 00:52:56.210 --> 00:52:59.469 now that scare me. I don't think Kansas is real. 931 00:52:59.510 --> 00:53:03.000 I think we're going to win Kansas. Susan Collins always 932 00:53:03.059 --> 00:53:03.599 comes back. 933 00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:05.179 She always does. 934 00:53:05.219 --> 00:53:08.179 They've counted her out like six times. She always comes back. 935 00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:11.820 What I'm afraid of is when we do lose the House, 936 00:53:12.500 --> 00:53:14.670 the progressives will get too much say in Congress. 937 00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:18.340 Could you imagine if they become members of the Intelligence Committee? 938 00:53:18.659 --> 00:53:18.880 No. 939 00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:22.159 Tony Carbonetti, we're out of time, but thank you for 940 00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:25.000 coming on this Sunday morning, and we'll talk again during 941 00:53:25.019 --> 00:53:25.920 the week. Thank you, John. 942 00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:28.239 The Cats Roundtable. 943 00:53:29.579 --> 00:53:31.760 If you ever miss a segment or want to hear 944 00:53:31.820 --> 00:53:37.769 it again, go to wabcradio.com, go to podcasts, go to minicasts, 945 00:53:38.110 --> 00:53:42.269 and play back your favorite segment. Thank you for being 946 00:53:42.289 --> 00:53:45.170 with us for the Cats Roundtable local edition of the 947 00:53:45.269 --> 00:53:48.369 number one show on Sunday mornings in New York. Keep 948 00:53:48.409 --> 00:53:51.889 listening to us for the Cats Roundtable National Edition between 949 00:53:51.889 --> 00:53:54.440 9 o'clock and 10 o'clock, so we'll be back to 950 00:53:54.460 --> 00:53:55.820 you in a few minutes after the news.