When the Internet Becomes the Jury - Cornell, the Death Penalty, the Military, France & Immigration의 전체 녹취록

things happening behind the scenes and working with. demands for time, 36 00:02:12.270 --> 00:02:16.750 when you factor that in, it's just like the quality triangle. 37 00:02:16.780 --> 00:02:19.639 You know, the more you have of any one, it's 38 00:02:19.659 --> 00:02:22.319 going to come at the expense of another. And I 39 00:02:23.379 --> 00:02:25.050 did the best I could this last week. I am 40 00:02:25.189 --> 00:02:28.969 really happy with how all the episodes turned out. But 41 00:02:29.050 --> 00:02:32.030 just like any other creator, you're a musician, you're a writer. 42 00:02:32.050 --> 00:02:34.550 Sometimes you'll go back over your work and say, I 43 00:02:34.770 --> 00:02:35.949 wish I would have done that a little better. I 44 00:02:35.990 --> 00:02:38.129 wish I had a little more time here. But all 45 00:02:38.189 --> 00:02:40.409 in all, it was a very powerful week. We had 46 00:02:40.430 --> 00:02:43.780 some very interesting conversations. We had some that went their 47 00:02:43.819 --> 00:02:47.620 own direction. And that's fine. That's part of what makes 48 00:02:47.659 --> 00:02:51.639 this work. The spontaneity and being put in a situation 49 00:02:51.659 --> 00:02:55.180 that you didn't necessarily expect to be in is part 50 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:57.919 of the fun of it. But Over the last week, 51 00:02:57.960 --> 00:03:03.960 we've covered some things, and I'm going to start with Cornell. Okay. Obviously, 52 00:03:03.979 --> 00:03:06.740 if you don't know the details of this, you've probably 53 00:03:06.780 --> 00:03:13.849 been living under a rock, but there's allegations that a multi-people, 54 00:03:14.050 --> 00:03:18.030 multi-individuals were involved in some sort of a rape of 55 00:03:18.069 --> 00:03:21.030 a young woman who has been called Jane Doe. Now, 56 00:03:21.110 --> 00:03:24.270 her name is floating around the Internet, as are the 57 00:03:24.330 --> 00:03:29.000 names of all the alleged individuals who took part in this. 58 00:03:29.500 --> 00:03:31.979 And we're choosing not to talk about these names. And 59 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:34.099 I'll get to that as to why in a minute, 60 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:38.319 in a moment. But essentially what happens with this case 61 00:03:38.419 --> 00:03:42.830 is this back in 2024, there was some sort of an, 62 00:03:43.050 --> 00:03:47.030 an event where at a college house where there was 63 00:03:47.069 --> 00:03:50.250 a number of men and a young woman, and there 64 00:03:50.270 --> 00:03:54.659 were drugs involved. There was illicit sex involved and, And 65 00:03:55.020 --> 00:04:00.539 something didn't go right, and a police report was filed. 66 00:04:01.490 --> 00:04:04.370 And oddly, the initial police report is a little vague 67 00:04:04.409 --> 00:04:10.110 in terms of was it rape or not rape. But nonetheless, 68 00:04:10.150 --> 00:04:12.969 this report was done by the campus police. And based 69 00:04:13.110 --> 00:04:18.629 off of that, the prosecutor decided not to press charges. 70 00:04:19.870 --> 00:04:22.829 This is kind of where I feel the weakest link 71 00:04:22.990 --> 00:04:28.149 is going by campus police. From what I understand, they are, 72 00:04:28.189 --> 00:04:30.709 quote unquote, real police. They can make arrests and so 73 00:04:30.790 --> 00:04:33.129 on and so forth. But it's not the same as 74 00:04:33.209 --> 00:04:37.310 having investigators, investigators who are trained to go through this 75 00:04:37.769 --> 00:04:41.470 and then having the prosecutor make a determination. That's probably 76 00:04:41.490 --> 00:04:46.600 where one of the weakest links is. But with that aside. Now, 77 00:04:46.699 --> 00:04:50.439 more recently, a civil lawsuit has been filed against a 78 00:04:50.490 --> 00:04:54.509 number of individuals, including those involved in the initial incident 79 00:04:55.750 --> 00:05:01.170 and the various people in levels around the school and 80 00:05:01.189 --> 00:05:04.889 so on and so forth for not doing anything. So 81 00:05:04.949 --> 00:05:08.819 we essentially have two reports to go with. We have 82 00:05:08.879 --> 00:05:13.240 the initial report that was filed a number of years ago. 83 00:05:14.470 --> 00:05:19.589 which was relatively short and kind of vague in terms 84 00:05:19.629 --> 00:05:23.699 of what it was saying. And we have the prosecutor 85 00:05:23.740 --> 00:05:27.819 at that time who decided not to press charges. 86 00:05:28.379 --> 00:05:28.660 Okay. 87 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:33.199 The other piece of information is a lawsuit. Now lawsuits 88 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:37.740 are designed to appear as bad as possible. 89 00:05:37.759 --> 00:05:38.339 Okay. 90 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:41.839 This is something where you are going to claim damages 91 00:05:42.019 --> 00:05:46.430 of some sort. So again, Is it an independent investigation? 92 00:05:46.629 --> 00:05:51.939 Do we have a truly independent investigation as to what 93 00:05:52.000 --> 00:05:54.920 happened at this time? I'm going to say no. With 94 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:59.920 that being said, the second report, which was exposed by, 95 00:06:00.060 --> 00:06:02.779 from what I understand, a Cornell newspaper that is not 96 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:08.129 supported by Cornell. This whole thing broke. This news broke. 97 00:06:09.569 --> 00:06:14.430 And it's this time it's spread like wildfire over the Internet. And, 98 00:06:14.449 --> 00:06:18.470 you know, people, you have two extremes. And this is 99 00:06:18.649 --> 00:06:21.449 often the case, and this is what we talk about 100 00:06:21.490 --> 00:06:23.810 a lot here on the program. We have two extremes. 101 00:06:24.829 --> 00:06:28.360 We have the one extreme that says this was a 102 00:06:28.540 --> 00:06:34.040 rape gang going around and, you know, attacking this woman 103 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:38.100 on this night in this house. And then you have 104 00:06:38.120 --> 00:06:41.439 the other extreme saying that why

did she wait so long? 105 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:46.920 This whole thing is made up. This is another Duke situation. And, 106 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:50.019 you know, this is just a woman who regrets what 107 00:06:50.060 --> 00:06:55.490 she did. And my opinion is, as so often in life, 108 00:06:55.910 --> 00:06:59.290 the truth is probably somewhere in between. But there's a 109 00:06:59.329 --> 00:07:01.730 lot wrong along with this. And I'm going to get 110 00:07:01.769 --> 00:07:03.930 to that in a minute. But this is what of 111 00:07:04.009 --> 00:07:08.509 all people, Sonny Hostin from The View. This is what 112 00:07:08.629 --> 00:07:12.209 she had to say about what's happening with Cornell right now. 113 00:07:12.129 --> 00:07:12.670 In the news. 114 00:07:14.139 --> 00:07:17.100 The pictures of these young men who have not been charged, 115 00:07:17.779 --> 00:07:21.370 not been adjudicated, are being plastered all over the Internet. 116 00:07:21.889 --> 00:07:25.290 I think people are reporting this story inaccurately. I think 117 00:07:25.329 --> 00:07:28.589 they're reporting it unfairly. And while this is something that 118 00:07:28.629 --> 00:07:31.480 we have to take very seriously, there is no way, 119 00:07:31.769 --> 00:07:35.600 according to her statement in 2024, that any prosecutor would 120 00:07:35.620 --> 00:07:35.980 have brought. 121 00:07:37.459 --> 00:07:40.300 She's right. And let me tell you something. The times 122 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:44.930 that I agree with Sonny Hostin... Hell just froze over. 123 00:07:45.350 --> 00:07:47.089 But you've got to give credit where credit is due. 124 00:07:48.149 --> 00:07:54.209 So far, all the people involved in this have been doxxed. Okay, 125 00:07:54.329 --> 00:07:59.290 all the seven young men and the woman, the Jane Doe, 126 00:07:59.430 --> 00:08:01.449 they've all been doxxed. It's real easy to find out 127 00:08:01.470 --> 00:08:04.370 who the names are. There's pictures of them. Two of them, 128 00:08:04.430 --> 00:08:07.209 I believe, have already lost jobs or had their jobs 129 00:08:07.250 --> 00:08:09.149 suspended pending the outcome of this. 130 00:08:10.420 --> 00:08:11.779 So what we really. 131 00:08:11.620 --> 00:08:14.660 Need to do at this point is have let the 132 00:08:15.279 --> 00:08:18.279 the prosecutor now is taking a second look at this. 133 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:22.860 And if there's going to be a further investigation, we 134 00:08:22.899 --> 00:08:26.220 need to let this play out a little bit. I 135 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:30.839 can tell you that this is going through this. This 136 00:08:30.939 --> 00:08:31.480 is a mess. 137 00:08:32.820 --> 00:08:33.059 All right. 138 00:08:33.379 --> 00:08:38.320 And, you know, I often talk about. Bad things happening 139 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:41.659 in bad situations. When you put yourself in bad situations, 140 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:45.100 bad things happen. And I want to be very clear, 141 00:08:45.179

--> 00:08:49.330 this is not in any way talking about the victim. 142 00:08:49.370 --> 00:08:56.870 This is talking about anyone, okay? I worked in nightclubs 143 00:08:56.889 --> 00:08:58.730 for many years. I was a sound guy. I was 144 00:08:58.769 --> 00:09:01.759 a disc jockey. I was a stand-up comedian. For the 145 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:04.740 most part, I feel that the nightclub community gets a 146 00:09:04.759 --> 00:09:07.360 bad rap in terms of promiscuity and things like that, 147 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:10.279 because most of the people that I knew and I 148 00:09:10.320 --> 00:09:14.639 got to know thousands over the years who would come 149 00:09:14.740 --> 00:09:17.610 out for a night of dancing and they worked hard 150 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:20.830 all week. They worried about their kids all week. They 151 00:09:20.970 --> 00:09:24.149 took their kids to the soccer games and went through 152 00:09:24.169 --> 00:09:27.149 all the stressors of life. And on Friday night, they 153 00:09:27.190 --> 00:09:29.570 just wanted to go out, unwind a little bit, dance 154 00:09:29.610 --> 00:09:32.889 a little bit. have some fun with friends, gossip, catch 155 00:09:32.929 --> 00:09:35.690 up on what all the latest gossip is in their 156 00:09:35.730 --> 00:09:39.049 little group. And they had some fun. But it was 157 00:09:39.090 --> 00:09:42.019 an environment that you had to be careful. All right? 158 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:46.500 There's people out there who have bad intentions. And when 159 00:09:46.539 --> 00:09:50.399 you're out meeting people, like these young people were on 160 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:53.409 the night of the partying and the college campuses and 161 00:09:53.450 --> 00:09:58.919 everything else, when you're out meeting people, and uh whether 162 00:09:58.940 --> 00:10:01.679 it be in a bar or on the internet or 163 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:05.600 whatever i understand you want to live life not everybody 164 00:10:05.700 --> 00:10:08.870 is going to you know plan on getting married and 165 00:10:08.899 --> 00:10:13.730 having 2.1 children every time they meet somebody we don't 166 00:10:13.769 --> 00:10:19.529 go into every relationship that serious okay but There's a 167 00:10:19.610 --> 00:10:23.509 difference between understanding that not everybody you meet or everybody 168 00:10:23.529 --> 00:10:26.289 you're going to fraternize with as a young person or 169 00:10:26.330 --> 00:10:29.769 a single person at any age, there's a difference between 170 00:10:29.809 --> 00:10:31.649 that and just living a reckless lifestyle. 171 00:10:32.669 --> 00:10:32.830 Okay. 172 00:10:32.850 --> 00:10:36.929 There's, there's something called a calculated risk. You took a 173 00:10:37.009 --> 00:10:40.500 calculated risk when you went to work this morning. Now, 174 00:10:40.509 --> 00:10:45.039 hopefully when you drove, you were responsible. You paid attention 175 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:48.149 to the traffic. You paid attention to the

streetlights. You 176 00:10:48.169 --> 00:10:51.269 paid attention to what was happening around you, but an 177 00:10:51.370 --> 00:10:52.909 accident could still happen. 178 00:10:52.929 --> 00:10:53.950 Okay. 179 00:10:53.990 --> 00:10:58.970 We know that when you drive recklessly, if you are 180 00:10:59.009 --> 00:11:02.039 driving impaired or if you're in a hurry to get 181 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:04.620 to work because you're, you're going to be late. And 182 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:06.259 I always tell people, if you're going to be late, 183 00:11:06.299 --> 00:11:10.059 be late. It's not worth having an accident, harming yourself, 184 00:11:10.100 --> 00:11:16.980 harming someone else. You know, the, Driving, when you're hastily driving, 185 00:11:17.019 --> 00:11:19.210 you're putting yourself at greater risk. You're going to take 186 00:11:19.230 --> 00:11:21.590 chances that you don't normally take. You're going to miss 187 00:11:21.610 --> 00:11:25.389 something in traffic that you might not have ordinarily. And 188 00:11:25.429 --> 00:11:29.070 this goes with anything. Okay, if you meet somebody that's 189 00:11:29.110 --> 00:11:32.200 very attractive, you're very enamored with, and you want to 190 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:35.620 be with them, take a calculated risk. Don't go home 191 00:11:35.659 --> 00:11:37.460 with them upon the first meeting at one o'clock in 192 00:11:37.500 --> 00:11:39.100 the morning. You don't know what's going to happen. You 193 00:11:39.139 --> 00:11:42.480 don't know what that person's intentions are. And this goes 194 00:11:42.519 --> 00:11:47.350 for men and women alike. You know, make this person 195 00:11:47.490 --> 00:11:49.929 earn your trust a little bit. Find out a little 196 00:11:49.970 --> 00:11:53.009 about them, who they are, where they're from, how you 197 00:11:53.029 --> 00:11:56.389 can find them otherwise. You know, see if they come 198 00:11:56.409 --> 00:11:59.570 with references, how many of your friends know them. You know, 199 00:11:59.610 --> 00:12:05.230 just take some time and make a calculated risk. And 200 00:12:05.909 --> 00:12:11.850 when I was going to school in the mid-1980s, I 201 00:12:11.909 --> 00:12:16.230 went to Kent State for a while and my career 202 00:12:16.269 --> 00:12:18.289 path took a different turn. While I was in school, 203 00:12:18.309 --> 00:12:20.169 I had the opportunity to start a business and I 204 00:12:20.210 --> 00:12:23.029 needed some technical training and I went in that direction. 205 00:12:24.370 --> 00:12:27.500 But I was, you know, part of the, I guess, 206 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:32.139 the college party community there for a while. And I 207 00:12:32.419 --> 00:12:34.940 never was much for drinking and I certainly was never 208 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:37.759 one for taking drugs. But I went to some of 209 00:12:37.779 --> 00:12:44.940 these parties and I was shocked. At what I was around, 210 00:12:45.580 --> 00:12:51.759 I mean, there was promiscuity. At that time, the 1980s, 211 00:12:51.799 --> 00:12:55.460 coke was really a big thing, cocaine. And, of course, 212 00:12:55.519 --> 00:13:00.580 drinking is always an issue. And there's just craziness all 213 00:13:00.620 --> 00:13:05.379 around you. And I can't imagine being an investigator trying 214 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:09.190 to sort out something, let's say an alleged rape. And 215 00:13:09.230 --> 00:13:14.370 you have alleged perpetrators. who are stoned out of their mind. 216 00:13:14.570 --> 00:13:17.330 They don't even know what planet they're on, let alone 217 00:13:17.350 --> 00:13:23.350 what happened in that situation. You have alleged victims, same condition. 218 00:13:24.669 --> 00:13:28.860 Any type of witness that you might have, same condition. 219 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:35.899 Everybody's drunk. Everybody's half sick. Nobody can remember anything. Maybe 220 00:13:35.980 --> 00:13:40.090 this happened or that happened. As an investigator, how do 221 00:13:40.149 --> 00:13:45.129 you even make heads or tails of the situation? And 222 00:13:45.169 --> 00:13:47.710 I'm saying here again, I'm not saying about women. I'm 223 00:13:47.750 --> 00:13:52.529 saying in general, you don't don't put yourself in those situations. 224 00:13:53.429 --> 00:13:56.629 Nothing good is going to happen. And I wasn't I 225 00:13:56.690 --> 00:13:59.789 wasn't an angel when I was in my early 20s 226 00:13:59.830 --> 00:14:02.330 by any stretch of the imagination. I was not some 227 00:14:02.370 --> 00:14:05.470 goody goody. But I knew that this was over the 228 00:14:05.529 --> 00:14:07.779 top of anything that I was going to get involved in. 229 00:14:07.789 --> 00:14:09.720 What I was afraid of when I was in these 230 00:14:09.750 --> 00:14:11.779 situations a lot of times unexpectedly, I. 231 00:14:14.220 --> 00:14:15.539 Got to get out of here. This place is going 232 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:17.639 to get raided. And I had too much to lose. 233 00:14:17.679 --> 00:14:20.059 I was doing pretty good at that age, especially considering 234 00:14:20.340 --> 00:14:23.539 I had lost a parent and my life was kind 235 00:14:23.559 --> 00:14:24.179 of in disarray. 236 00:14:24.210 --> 00:14:25.090 I was an only child. 237 00:14:25.149 --> 00:14:27.789 I was, you know, making my way through life as 238 00:14:27.830 --> 00:14:31.820 best I could. And I had too much to lose. 239 00:14:31.860 --> 00:14:33.899 I couldn't afford getting busted at something like this when 240 00:14:33.940 --> 00:14:37.840 I wasn't doing anything to begin with. So my my 241 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:42.429 my inclination was always get me the hell out of here. OK, 242 00:14:42.470 --> 00:14:48.990 so I think more people should have. That mentality, get 243 00:14:49.049 --> 00:14:52.090 me the hell out of here. And this isn't blaming 244 00:14:52.129 --> 00:14:57.299 the victims. I've used this analogy before, but if someone 245 00:14:57.320 --> 00:15:01.679 tells

you, don't go home taking that street, it might 246 00:15:01.740 --> 00:15:04.259 save you some time, but it's too dangerous. Go the 247 00:15:04.299 --> 00:15:07.539 long way. And you decide, well, I'm going to take 248 00:15:07.580 --> 00:15:12.559 the short street. You get mugged. Does that mean you 249 00:15:12.580 --> 00:15:15.259 deserved it? Absolutely not. Nobody deserves to have a crime 250 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:20.269 perpetrated on them. Absolutely not. Does that mean that the 251 00:15:20.289 --> 00:15:24.009 people that did that to you, the perpetrators... Should they 252 00:15:24.049 --> 00:15:28.120 get off for what they did? Absolutely not. They're guilty 253 00:15:28.129 --> 00:15:33.019 of a crime. But in the full context of the picture, 254 00:15:34.220 --> 00:15:38.480 you took maybe a calculated risk and lost or you 255 00:15:38.500 --> 00:15:42.580 were just reckless and lost. And if there's a better 256 00:15:42.600 --> 00:15:44.679 way to get home, taking the shorter route when you 257 00:15:44.700 --> 00:15:50.779 know better is a reckless decision. OK, so stay out 258 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:57.179 of reckless situations. Stay out of these horrible situations. Quite frankly, 259 00:15:57.299 --> 00:16:00.820 what we have here, when you start reading these two reports, 260 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:06.240 is you have a level of decadence. If nothing happened, 261 00:16:06.620 --> 00:16:09.299 let's just say for the most part, no rape happened. 262 00:16:09.860 --> 00:16:14.480 What you have here is a night of decadence that 263 00:16:14.620 --> 00:16:18.200 young people should not be engaging in. And here again, 264 00:16:18.220 --> 00:16:21.379 I am not on a moral high ground, goody-goody type 265 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:28.879 of person. that you have illicit sex, ketamine being snorted 266 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:35.299 off of a penis, substances being snorted off of the 267 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:39.049 young woman, the Jane Doe's body. And this is in 268 00:16:39.110 --> 00:16:43.850 a situation where people are coming and going. It is 269 00:16:43.909 --> 00:16:49.509 just not a good situation. Nobody, none of the, they all, 270 00:16:49.529 --> 00:16:52.820 quite frankly, need a good beating, all of them. for 271 00:16:54.039 --> 00:16:57.500 if I, I can't imagine if my old man had 272 00:16:57.539 --> 00:17:00.860 been alive and I was in a situation where there 273 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:05.349 was illicit drug use, illicit sex, and I got myself 274 00:17:05.380 --> 00:17:07.869 in some kind of trouble, he would have beat my ass. 275 00:17:09.250 --> 00:17:10.990 He would have beat my ass. 276 00:17:12.049 --> 00:17:13.930 And I'm always going to say this. I, you know, 277 00:17:13.970 --> 00:17:19.710 the parents these days, instead of having that attitude, their 278 00:17:19.750 --> 00:17:25.829 attitude is my precious kid. Got mistreated. And it is 279 00:17:26.029 --> 00:17:30.829 not serving us well. It is absolutely not serving us well. 280 00:17:32.950 --> 00:17:35.269 My guess, and it's just a guess, all of these 281 00:17:35.329 --> 00:17:39.849 things are allegations. All of these things are allegations. 282 00:17:40.630 --> 00:17:40.990 Okay? 283 00:17:41.829 --> 00:17:44.470 But with that being said, if I had to guess, 284 00:17:46.269 --> 00:17:51.230 I would say that something... happened. Probably what happened from 285 00:17:51.569 --> 00:17:54.430 the reports that I went through was some sort of 286 00:17:54.470 --> 00:17:59.000 a threesome started and it may be continued on with 287 00:17:59.420 --> 00:18:01.759 other men coming and going. And at some point things 288 00:18:01.799 --> 00:18:07.440 got out of hand. At some point there was taking 289 00:18:07.500 --> 00:18:12.789 advantage of somebody who was incapacitated. That's probably what happened. 290 00:18:13.529 --> 00:18:17.380 And that of course should never have happened. But like 291 00:18:17.420 --> 00:18:19.759 I said in my original example, how do you sort 292 00:18:19.819 --> 00:18:26.279 through it? When everybody involved from the alleged perpetrators to 293 00:18:26.299 --> 00:18:30.079 the alleged victims to the alleged witnesses, none of them 294 00:18:30.200 --> 00:18:35.029 can speak with any authority about what happened. So how 295 00:18:35.049 --> 00:18:37.190 do you sort through that? The best thing I can 296 00:18:37.250 --> 00:18:40.630 say about it is we will let time move forward 297 00:18:41.170 --> 00:18:45.160 and we will take it from there. In regard to 298 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:49.839 what Sonny Haasen said, a lot of these individuals, this 299 00:18:49.859 --> 00:18:54.619 should not be happening. There's a lot of hate being 300 00:18:54.680 --> 00:19:00.890 directed at the alleged perpetrators, which I understand. I've also 301 00:19:01.009 --> 00:19:04.910 noticed a lot of hate being directed at the Jane Doe, 302 00:19:06.150 --> 00:19:08.690 so much so the accuser of making the thing up. 303 00:19:09.950 --> 00:19:15.170 They have these memes of her in horrible, degrading animations. 304 00:19:16.539 --> 00:19:19.319 They're calling her all kinds of names, the S word, 305 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:24.279 the C word, the W word. And none of that 306 00:19:24.339 --> 00:19:28.490 should be happening. None of it should. None of these 307 00:19:28.529 --> 00:19:35.869 young people should be openly ridiculed. It is not going 308 00:19:35.910 --> 00:19:39.440 to serve them well, regardless of who did what to whom. 309 00:19:39.500 --> 00:19:43.519 You can sort that out later and properly address it. 310 00:19:43.700 --> 00:19:47.329 But in the meantime, all of these individuals are being 311 00:19:47.450 --> 00:19:49.970 treated like, you know, they're horrible people. 312 00:19:50.390 --> 00:19:51.670 By the opposite side. 313 00:19:52.529 --> 00:19:54.190 And I'm really afraid that one of them is going 314 00:19:54.230 --> 00:19:57.339 to harm

themselves. And then we're going to find out 315 00:19:57.380 --> 00:20:01.299 that maybe these people really didn't do that much. You know, 316 00:20:01.339 --> 00:20:02.940 there's a lot of people saying, well, if you were 317 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:05.559 on this chat, if you don't know one of them, 318 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:09.089 there was a little group chat where on some app 319 00:20:09.130 --> 00:20:11.190 or something that they were using. And the fraternity was 320 00:20:11.269 --> 00:20:14.859 involved 50 some odd individuals. And a lot of young 321 00:20:14.880 --> 00:20:17.339 people are saying, well, apparently, you know, a lot of 322 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:21.579 people knew this was going on and nobody did anything here. Again, I, I, 323 00:20:22.220 --> 00:20:25.359 that's certainly understandable. I, if I knew for a fact 324 00:20:25.400 --> 00:20:27.400 that there was something really bad happening in the next 325 00:20:27.460 --> 00:20:29.960 room over, I probably, I probably couldn't do nothing. That's 326 00:20:29.980 --> 00:20:35.329 not something that, that my personality allows for. However, I've 327 00:20:35.349 --> 00:20:38.980 been involved in group chats recently and nothing involved on 328 00:20:39.039 --> 00:20:41.480 the scale, but just events over the weekend and things 329 00:20:41.500 --> 00:20:44.539 like that. These things are pinging all through the night 330 00:20:44.579 --> 00:20:47.920 when I'm sound asleep. There's 80 some notifications on them. 331 00:20:48.329 --> 00:20:50.950 There's no way that I am going to sort through them. 332 00:20:51.829 --> 00:20:54.369 There's probably a good chance that a lot of these 333 00:20:54.430 --> 00:20:57.490 people that were in this chat paid very little attention 334 00:20:57.549 --> 00:21:00.619 to it. It's probably going on every night and especially 335 00:21:00.670 --> 00:21:05.029 on the weekends. So we're making a lot of presumptions 336 00:21:05.910 --> 00:21:08.849 that we just don't know the answers to. 337 00:21:09.369 --> 00:21:10.910 But it's very unfortunate. 338 00:21:12.109 --> 00:21:15.329 I do believe here again, just an assumption on my part, 339 00:21:15.410 --> 00:21:19.259 that Cornell did know something. And this is probably something 340 00:21:19.299 --> 00:21:23.480 here again. These wild nights are probably pretty common and 341 00:21:23.500 --> 00:21:26.880 they don't want it to hurt their ability to stand 342 00:21:26.980 --> 00:21:30.700 up as an institution where they can charge some unholy 343 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:34.460 amount of money for tuition. And they don't like to 344 00:21:34.500 --> 00:21:37.519 talk about these things. There's a pretty good chance that 345 00:21:37.539 --> 00:21:43.819 this was not a priority for anybody. And that's a 346 00:21:43.839 --> 00:21:48.299 shame because I really believe this fraternity system needs overhauled. 347 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:53.380 And for my money, the four year degree system in

348 00:21:53.420 --> 00:21:59.089 this country needs overhauled because, you know, these universities have 349 00:21:59.109 --> 00:22:01.670 got themselves in a situations where people start planning for 350 00:22:01.710 --> 00:22:04.750 tuition the day a child is born because you've got 351 00:22:04.789 --> 00:22:05.829 to have one, apparently. 352 00:22:05.849 --> 00:22:07.650 And I don't believe that's the case anymore at all. 353 00:22:08.750 --> 00:22:12.690 They use these a lot of times government taxpayer funds, 354 00:22:12.769 --> 00:22:18.809 along with these ungodly tuitions to indoctrinate these students. You 355 00:22:18.829 --> 00:22:21.089 have people that want to be, let's say, a doctor 356 00:22:21.170 --> 00:22:23.470 who have to take a bunch of classes and stuff 357 00:22:23.490 --> 00:22:27.690 that have nothing to do with whatever it is that 358 00:22:27.710 --> 00:22:31.900 they're going to school for. You know, I understand this 359 00:22:31.940 --> 00:22:34.119 system was probably, let's say, in the 1950s. There's a 360 00:22:34.160 --> 00:22:38.359 good chance that during those years when a young person 361 00:22:38.420 --> 00:22:40.440 went off to college, that was the first time that 362 00:22:40.480 --> 00:22:44.049 they left their hometown, especially for any length of time. 363 00:22:44.089 --> 00:22:47.750 That's not true anymore. These kids are all over the place, okay? 364 00:22:48.750 --> 00:22:51.910 They got all this information in their hands. There's nothing 365 00:22:52.089 --> 00:22:55.759 that they need to learn about media studies and social 366 00:22:55.819 --> 00:23:00.460 studies and all this bullshit. There's no reason why a doctor, 367 00:23:01.299 --> 00:23:03.420 somebody who wants to become a doctor, leaves high school, 368 00:23:04.019 --> 00:23:08.519 goes to a very intense two-year training program, pre-med, and 369 00:23:08.539 --> 00:23:10.839 then goes straight off to medical school and then off 370 00:23:10.900 --> 00:23:14.019 into training and so on and so forth. All we're 371 00:23:14.059 --> 00:23:18.650 doing is we're taking years of these people's lives. using 372 00:23:18.690 --> 00:23:21.329 the space in their brain that could be used to 373 00:23:21.369 --> 00:23:23.690 become a doctor or whatever it is they want to 374 00:23:23.710 --> 00:23:27.150 become and taking all that money for all these bullshit classes. 375 00:23:27.910 --> 00:23:31.170 It's not serving any good at this point. So this 376 00:23:31.210 --> 00:23:34.829 whole thing, starting with a fraternity and sorority system, this 377 00:23:34.849 --> 00:23:37.009 whole thing has to be reexamined. I know that's not 378 00:23:37.029 --> 00:23:39.430 going to happen with all the football teams and all 379 00:23:39.450 --> 00:23:41.930 the money that's in college is probably not going to happen, 380 00:23:41.990 --> 00:23:45.789 but it's not sustainable the way that it is, especially 381 00:23:45.829 --> 00:23:50.400 with

what's coming. Because what's coming is really, when we're 382 00:23:50.420 --> 00:23:53.880 talking about AI and some of this other stuff, we're 383 00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:58.230 going to need workers who know something about something. And 384 00:23:58.529 --> 00:24:01.329 just sending all these thousands of kids out who know 385 00:24:01.390 --> 00:24:05.369 how to make really nice pie charts and spreadsheets, that 386 00:24:05.509 --> 00:24:13.039 bullshit is, the need for that is waning as we speak. Okay, 387 00:24:13.059 --> 00:24:18.940 a couple other things. So this thing with the death penalty, 388 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:25.380 let's talk about Christina Pike or Krista Pike. 389 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:26.359 I'm sorry, Krista Pike. 390 00:24:28.140 --> 00:24:32.549 Pike, years ago, decades ago, and that's one of the 391 00:24:32.650 --> 00:24:34.990 problems I have with the death penalty is these people 392 00:24:35.049 --> 00:24:39.470 die of old age before they make it to their execution. 393 00:24:40.190 --> 00:24:44.299 But that's a whole other subject. Pike became convinced that 394 00:24:44.339 --> 00:24:47.720 a fellow student, and here again, her name, I always 395 00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:53.339 want to mention the name, the victim, Colleen Slemmer. That's 396 00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:57.220 a young girl who was truly innocent. That was a 397 00:24:57.240 --> 00:25:01.099 young girl at best flirting with somebody's boyfriend, which is 398 00:25:01.140 --> 00:25:03.680 something that, you know, everybody in the world has done 399 00:25:03.700 --> 00:25:08.130 at one time or another. Pike became convinced that this 400 00:25:08.490 --> 00:25:12.970 woman was trying to steal her boyfriend, Tadra Hill ship 401 00:25:13.970 --> 00:25:18.769 pike complained to lure slimmer to an isolated abandoned steam 402 00:25:18.789 --> 00:25:24.369 plant near the university of tennessee campus slimmer was attacked 403 00:25:24.390 --> 00:25:28.349 by pike and ship pike is the person who was 404 00:25:28.490 --> 00:25:33.029 execution was up ship is the alleged boyfriend at the 405 00:25:33.049 --> 00:25:35.690 time and they also took another friend with them as 406 00:25:35.730 --> 00:25:40.019 a lookout according to court testimony for the next 30 407 00:25:40.019 --> 00:25:46.619 minutes slimmer was taunted beaten and slashed. During the attack, 408 00:25:46.839 --> 00:25:49.079 Slimmer begged for her life. And that's the part that, 409 00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:52.500 you know, this young girl who did nothing of any 410 00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:56.220 substance was begging for her life. While they used a 411 00:25:56.259 --> 00:25:59.279 box cutter to carve a pentagram into her chest while 412 00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:00.200 she was still alive. 413 00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:01.119 And Pike. 414 00:26:02.380 --> 00:26:08.490 Used a meat cleaver and carved her up. Finally, Pike 415 00:26:08.849 --> 00:26:14.200 smashed Slimmer's skull and With a large chunk

of asphalt. 416 00:26:15.589 --> 00:26:19.029 Killing her from brain injury. And Pike kept a piece 417 00:26:19.210 --> 00:26:23.809 of Slimmer's skull. And would show it off. And boast 418 00:26:23.849 --> 00:26:27.609 about how she got it. Now a lot of stuff 419 00:26:27.630 --> 00:26:29.950 has come up about Pike in her history. Apparently she 420 00:26:30.009 --> 00:26:33.279 had a troubled violent childhood. And all of these other things. 421 00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:38.200 Which is very common. In these types of cases. And 422 00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:44.519 it's unfortunate. But come on now. We're talking about somebody 423 00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:49.019 carrying around a piece of skull in their pocket. Like 424 00:26:49.059 --> 00:26:53.660 it's a souvenir from Las Vegas. It's a chip that 425 00:26:53.700 --> 00:26:56.869 they're carrying around from their vacation in Vegas. 426 00:26:58.569 --> 00:26:58.890 All right. 427 00:26:58.970 --> 00:27:06.349 Well, she was sentenced to death. And here again, this 428 00:27:06.390 --> 00:27:11.890 was years ago, decades ago. And they went to execute 429 00:27:11.930 --> 00:27:14.410 her and it didn't go very well. 430 00:27:17.180 --> 00:27:20.980 I will say I've witnessed, I believe, five executions in Tennessee. 431 00:27:21.500 --> 00:27:25.339 Nothing about today was normal, typical at all. At one 432 00:27:25.380 --> 00:27:28.240 point at 734, she said, my arm feels like it's 433 00:27:28.279 --> 00:27:33.049 about to burst open. Then she smiles really big. Then 434 00:27:33.109 --> 00:27:35.089 she starts talking about that one spot on her arm. 435 00:27:35.549 --> 00:27:39.009 Does this happen like that? The one spot? I didn't 436 00:27:39.170 --> 00:27:42.410 hear the rest. And then her advisor says, relax. And 437 00:27:42.450 --> 00:27:47.690 she says, I'm trying. Yeah, she's talking throughout this, then 438 00:27:48.049 --> 00:27:50.349 starts breathing, moaning, snoring. 439 00:27:51.730 --> 00:27:54.880 Yeah, this was bad, I'm sure, for anybody who was 440 00:27:58.140 --> 00:28:05.829 around witnessing this execution, this botched execution. And Some of 441 00:28:05.849 --> 00:28:08.430 the people who witnessed the execution were actually a little emotional. 442 00:28:08.490 --> 00:28:10.359 And I know there's a tendency to say, how could 443 00:28:10.400 --> 00:28:15.279 you be emotional about this horrible person? And I understand 444 00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:20.539 it because when you are with somebody, when you're actually 445 00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:24.470 with the human being, you recognize them as a human being. 446 00:28:25.430 --> 00:28:27.990 And I can understand why people on death row have 447 00:28:28.029 --> 00:28:31.730 a problem with this, especially when they've known these– some 448 00:28:31.769 --> 00:28:36.650 of these death row inmates– for a lifetime, their whole career, 449 00:28:36.670 --> 00:28:39.269 this person has been on death row. And now all 450 00:28:39.289

--> 00:28:41.650 of a sudden they're getting executed. And the person that 451 00:28:41.670 --> 00:28:43.730 they've gotten to know on some level as a human 452 00:28:43.769 --> 00:28:50.450 being is going to exist no more. And I understand 453 00:28:50.730 --> 00:28:55.700 the humanity of that. I don't want to criticize that 454 00:28:55.740 --> 00:29:01.500 at all. However, here again, in the context of this, 455 00:29:02.990 --> 00:29:06.970 My first priority is to the victim. 456 00:29:06.990 --> 00:29:08.130 Okay. 457 00:29:08.829 --> 00:29:12.589 The victim who is begging for her life, getting cut 458 00:29:12.630 --> 00:29:17.230 to pieces and then having her quite literally her brains 459 00:29:17.329 --> 00:29:26.690 bashed in. That is where my priority is. And I've 460 00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:29.059 said this before and I'll say it again. We are 461 00:29:29.140 --> 00:29:34.769 obsessed with, With the rights of the accused, we are 462 00:29:34.849 --> 00:29:40.799 obsessed with the rights of these perpetrators. at the expense 463 00:29:41.339 --> 00:29:45.799 of how much we care for the victims. You know, 464 00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:48.640 I'm sure you've seen cop shows. You've seen the cops 465 00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:51.079 show where they arrest somebody and they have to read 466 00:29:51.099 --> 00:29:54.259 them the rights. You know, you have a right to 467 00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:58.079 remain silent. You have a right for an attorney and da-da-da-da-da. 468 00:29:59.059 --> 00:30:02.019 There are no rights for a victim. You never have 469 00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:05.180 a victim being read their rights. You don't have any 470 00:30:05.269 --> 00:30:07.789 rights as a victim. Oh, you're badly hurt. Boy, hope 471 00:30:07.809 --> 00:30:15.130 you get insurance. You know, and this is the thing 472 00:30:15.170 --> 00:30:22.000 that is so infuriating to me. But getting back to 473 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:24.910 the original thing, the death penalty. I've had people say 474 00:30:24.970 --> 00:30:27.069 what they should have done is they should have taken 475 00:30:27.130 --> 00:30:29.329 her outside, taken her back into the forest somewhere and 476 00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:30.950 hit her on the head with a giant rock. 477 00:30:32.500 --> 00:30:34.440 That might have been more efficient. I don't know. 478 00:30:34.460 --> 00:30:45.849 This lethal injection, for the most part, is designed to 479 00:30:47.470 --> 00:30:52.130 make the public feel that this is acceptable. I believe 480 00:30:52.150 --> 00:30:54.769 it's acceptable. I'm not necessarily pro death penalty and I'll 481 00:30:54.789 --> 00:30:58.849 get to that in a minute. But it's it's acceptable. 482 00:30:58.930 --> 00:31:03.460 It seems like such a humane thing to do. You know, 483 00:31:03.539 --> 00:31:05.980 like when your your your pet is getting to that 484 00:31:06.059 --> 00:31:09.819 point and it's unfortunate, but you do what you got 485 00:31:09.859 --> 00:31:12.730 to

do. And that's kind of this thing. We can't 486 00:31:12.769 --> 00:31:14.829 have this person around. They've been sentenced to death, but 487 00:31:14.849 --> 00:31:16.299 we're not going to make a spectacle of it. 488 00:31:16.849 --> 00:31:18.470 Excuse me. We're not going to make a spectacle of it. 489 00:31:19.849 --> 00:31:22.990 We're just going to do this thing and, you know, 490 00:31:23.029 --> 00:31:26.710 have it go away, have this thing go away. But 491 00:31:26.750 --> 00:31:28.970 the fact of the matter is, is I'm not sure 492 00:31:28.990 --> 00:31:32.529 that these lethal injections are the most efficient way. 493 00:31:33.069 --> 00:31:33.900 It seems like it. 494 00:31:34.490 --> 00:31:36.670 And if you read how it's done, you're given sedative 495 00:31:36.710 --> 00:31:38.490 first and then you're given something that makes you go 496 00:31:38.529 --> 00:31:40.549 to sleep. And then there's the lethal part of it. 497 00:31:41.210 --> 00:31:45.289 So the idea is, OK, you get this. System of 498 00:31:45.369 --> 00:31:48.910 drugs and you pass away peacefully, but it doesn't often 499 00:31:48.950 --> 00:31:51.869 happen that way. I don't know if any of you 500 00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:54.309 have ever seen actual footage of a firing squad, but 501 00:31:54.349 --> 00:31:59.250 I can tell you it's pretty instant. That's rarely done 502 00:31:59.289 --> 00:32:03.150 in the United States. Electric chair, I'm not too sure 503 00:32:03.170 --> 00:32:09.250 about either. That can be pretty anguishing. Hanging, I suppose, 504 00:32:09.470 --> 00:32:12.049 is still an option. Now, I heard rumors, I don't 505 00:32:12.069 --> 00:32:15.349 know if this is true, that Krista Pike did request that, 506 00:32:15.950 --> 00:32:18.329 but I don't know if that can be done in 507 00:32:18.349 --> 00:32:20.769 the legal ease of the nation and all the different states. 508 00:32:20.809 --> 00:32:25.170 I don't know. But there are efficient ways to kill 509 00:32:25.230 --> 00:32:28.390 people in terms of execution if that is what we 510 00:32:28.430 --> 00:32:30.130 decide to do, and maybe we need. 511 00:32:29.970 --> 00:32:30.769 To revisit that. 512 00:32:31.930 --> 00:32:36.049 These lethal injections as being a humane way to go, because. 513 00:32:36.369 --> 00:32:37.029 I'm not sure they are. 514 00:32:37.049 --> 00:32:39.769 A lot of people have asked, you know, why did 515 00:32:39.809 --> 00:32:44.150 they try to save her then? At the time this 516 00:32:44.230 --> 00:32:47.410 is being recorded, I do not know Krista Pike's condition, 517 00:32:47.470 --> 00:32:51.079 my understanding she is alive. In what state, who knows? 518 00:32:51.170 --> 00:32:55.059 Is she ever going to fully gain consciousness? At this point, 519 00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:59.819 I have no idea. Why were life-giving measures taken? You know, 520 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:04.529 at the second... time they administered this and it didn't work, 521 00:33:06.089 --> 00:33:08.910 you're faced with a choice. You're up against a precedent. 522 00:33:08.970 --> 00:33:10.930 What do you do now? There's a good chance the 523 00:33:10.970 --> 00:33:12.910 third one isn't going to work. If you do nothing, 524 00:33:13.619 --> 00:33:15.230 she could lay there awake all night. You got all 525 00:33:15.259 --> 00:33:19.359 these witnesses out there. You can't let this continue. Once 526 00:33:19.420 --> 00:33:23.059 it's given to regular medical personnel, they cannot quote unquote 527 00:33:23.099 --> 00:33:25.819 finish her off. They can't do it. You know, they're 528 00:33:25.980 --> 00:33:30.859 obliged to preserve life. So now as bizarre as it 529 00:33:30.940 --> 00:33:35.240 may seem, we may have Krista Pike who was sentenced 530 00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:39.400 to death now on life support. As ironic and as 531 00:33:39.529 --> 00:33:45.849 strange as that is. My thing with the death penalty 532 00:33:45.910 --> 00:33:48.369 is this. I don't necessarily have a problem with it. 533 00:33:50.069 --> 00:33:54.400 For example, Ted Bundy got loose, killed some more people. 534 00:33:55.700 --> 00:33:58.410 And I think there are people that are so evil 535 00:33:58.769 --> 00:34:02.029 that they're very hard to contain, especially within the walls 536 00:34:03.009 --> 00:34:07.390 of normal prisons. And you never know when that person, 537 00:34:07.910 --> 00:34:11.269 by some strange coincidence off in the future, is going 538 00:34:11.289 --> 00:34:13.110 to find some reason to get out and do it again. 539 00:34:13.139 --> 00:34:17.400 I believe that is a possibility that you have to consider. 540 00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:22.000 With that being said, I'm not necessarily all gung-ho about 541 00:34:22.019 --> 00:34:22.980 the death penalty either. 542 00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:24.840 My criticism. 543 00:34:25.780 --> 00:34:28.260 of the judicial system when it comes to this kind 544 00:34:28.300 --> 00:34:31.280 of stuff is the amount of time. You know, they 545 00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:34.909 talk about justice being swift. It is far from that. 546 00:34:36.750 --> 00:34:42.030 Some of these people commit absolutely heinous crimes. In Texas, 547 00:34:42.050 --> 00:34:44.489 for example, to be considered for the death penalty, it 548 00:34:44.530 --> 00:34:46.349 has to be of what they call a cruel and 549 00:34:46.449 --> 00:34:50.280 unusual nature. Well, there's plenty of those across the country 550 00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:54.099 where there's plenty of evidence of There is no debate 551 00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:58.659 about the guilt or innocence. It is of an astounding 552 00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:03.170 amount of cruel behavior that these people have done. And 553 00:35:03.190 --> 00:35:05.170 some of them have a history of doing it as 554 00:35:05.230 --> 00:35:09.710 long as the Declaration of Independence. And what we decide 555 00:35:09.750 --> 00:35:14.900 to do with them takes forever. You know, as far 556

00:35:14.940 --> 00:35:18.579 as I'm concerned, these life sentences should be begun immediately. 557 00:35:18.639 --> 00:35:20.860 The amount of appeals and all this other stuff that 558 00:35:20.940 --> 00:35:23.559 is constantly allowed to drag the system out for years 559 00:35:23.619 --> 00:35:25.840 and years and years has got to stop over these 560 00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:31.710 kind of cases. And the chances that's the real problem 561 00:35:31.730 --> 00:35:35.510 when we talk about a deterrent. One of the reasons 562 00:35:35.530 --> 00:35:38.469 why the death penalty in severe cases in general aren't 563 00:35:38.489 --> 00:35:43.480 a deterrent is because they're not implemented enough. your chances 564 00:35:43.539 --> 00:35:46.920 of getting away with a heinous crime anymore, especially under 565 00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:49.820 the climate that we're on in today, where we will 566 00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.280 just run to these people's defense and give them all 567 00:35:52.340 --> 00:35:56.320 kinds of excuses. You, you know, you're, you weren't as 568 00:35:56.409 --> 00:35:59.449 loved as much as your brother, your mommy loved your 569 00:35:59.510 --> 00:36:04.489 brother more than you and all this other kind of bullshit. Um, 570 00:36:05.010 --> 00:36:07.630 that's the kind of stuff that needs to stop that. 571 00:36:07.650 --> 00:36:11.840 That's the kind of stuff that really, really needs to stop. Um, 572 00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:15.760 Moving on, in the news today as well. Not today, 573 00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:20.119 but recently, last few days, last week. Pete Hegzeth, he's 574 00:36:20.139 --> 00:36:25.489 a character. Well, let me play a little bit about 575 00:36:25.849 --> 00:36:30.889 what Pete had to say here about the armed forces 576 00:36:31.210 --> 00:36:32.130 and what's going on in them. 577 00:36:33.690 --> 00:36:37.110 But it's worth saying again so that the fake news 578 00:36:37.590 --> 00:36:41.820 understands it. We are no longer the woke department or 579 00:36:41.860 --> 00:36:48.719 the weak department. Simple translation of that, no fatties, no trannies, 580 00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:54.260 no beardos, no weirdos, no wimps, no radicals, just warriors. 581 00:36:55.300 --> 00:37:00.690 Just tough, ready, committed troops. The War Department, as you know, 582 00:37:00.789 --> 00:37:05.010 is colorblind, gender neutral, and merit-based. 583 00:37:06.869 --> 00:37:07.369 All right. 584 00:37:07.449 --> 00:37:09.650 You can put a good backbeat to that. That kind 585 00:37:09.690 --> 00:37:16.579 of rhymes pretty well. But is he wrong? Now, before 586 00:37:16.619 --> 00:37:22.219 you come at me, let me just say this. He 587 00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:27.960 obviously is trying to be provocative. He obviously is trying 588 00:37:28.019 --> 00:37:34.219 to stoke a reaction. And my one criticism of Pete 589 00:37:34.239 --> 00:37:39.519 Hegseth would be of I don't know if that's something 590 00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:42.320 somebody in his position should be necessarily doing by his 591 00:37:42.380 --> 00:37:46.360 own standards. We're not supposed to be meddling in social issues. 592 00:37:46.389 --> 00:37:49.250 We shouldn't be trying to stoke them. OK, so he's 593 00:37:49.650 --> 00:37:52.269 he's trying to needle the opposition. He's trying to get 594 00:37:52.289 --> 00:37:58.269 them all riled up. But as a whole. You know, 595 00:37:58.309 --> 00:38:09.519 the military. For the most part, is a battle, a war. Institution. 596 00:38:10.659 --> 00:38:14.909 That is the reason for its existence. The reason we 597 00:38:14.949 --> 00:38:17.789 have a military is to attack and to defend or 598 00:38:17.829 --> 00:38:23.210 to defend by attacking. And the main function of the 599 00:38:23.250 --> 00:38:27.809 military is to kill, is to blow things up, and 600 00:38:27.909 --> 00:38:34.380 it's to engage the enemy. And under that type of environment, 601 00:38:34.800 --> 00:38:41.579 your only function is should be to keep yourself alive, 602 00:38:42.079 --> 00:38:45.289 to keep the American public alive, and be as efficient 603 00:38:45.369 --> 00:38:49.050 of a warrior as you possibly can be. There's an 604 00:38:49.090 --> 00:38:52.730 old adage that politics does not belong on the battlefield 605 00:38:52.809 --> 00:38:55.309 and unfortunately gets out there in a lot of different ways. 606 00:38:56.150 --> 00:39:00.579 Politicians sometimes make political decisions involving the military and they 607 00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:03.099 forget what the function of the military is. 608 00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:04.000 It's to attack. 609 00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:07.800 It's not to send a message to It's not to 610 00:39:07.860 --> 00:39:10.699 stabilize the situation. When you start hearing those types of 611 00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:14.320 words coming out of politicians' mouth, it usually means they're 612 00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:17.739 about to get a bunch of service people killed. And 613 00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:22.409 quite frankly, a lot of the innocent people, a lot 614 00:39:22.429 --> 00:39:24.969 of the citizens of the areas where these are happening, 615 00:39:25.389 --> 00:39:27.070 you're about to get them killed as well. 616 00:39:29.110 --> 00:39:29.989 Unless you're going to go. 617 00:39:30.219 --> 00:39:33.780 in with an overwhelming force, defeat the bad guys and 618 00:39:33.820 --> 00:39:35.679 then get the hell out, which is something that we 619 00:39:35.699 --> 00:39:38.599 have a problem with doing as well. If you're doing 620 00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:43.070 anything other than that, you're meddling in something that shouldn't 621 00:39:43.090 --> 00:39:48.139 be meddled with. And from that aspect, I get what 622 00:39:48.179 --> 00:39:54.510 Pete Hegseth is saying here. OK, this isn't an institution that, 623 00:39:55.409 --> 00:39:58.230 you know, for social change, that's not what that's not 624 00:39:58.269 --> 00:40:01.610 what it's

there for. You know, for 250 years, the 625 00:40:01.650 --> 00:40:06.750 military had one function and that's it. So I don't know. 626 00:40:06.769 --> 00:40:11.769 I've heard different things, but I I noticed a lot 627 00:40:11.789 --> 00:40:17.340 of videos about him. visiting military bases and, you know, 628 00:40:17.380 --> 00:40:19.619 doing workouts with them. And how many of these guys 629 00:40:20.380 --> 00:40:22.920 could actually do workouts with the troops? I'll give them that. 630 00:40:24.059 --> 00:40:26.590 But it seems like I don't know if there's a 631 00:40:26.650 --> 00:40:28.489 way of gauging this. I don't know if they can 632 00:40:28.550 --> 00:40:32.090 pull the military somehow, but it seems as though he's 633 00:40:32.130 --> 00:40:35.840 well liked within the military and morale is very good. Um, 634 00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:39.170 but here again, that's not a scientific, I'm not aware 635 00:40:39.230 --> 00:40:41.650 of any scientific poll that has assessed this. It just 636 00:40:41.690 --> 00:40:46.070 seems that, uh, a lot of people like this warrior 637 00:40:46.489 --> 00:40:51.650 ethos that he is bringing to the military and. 638 00:40:52.019 --> 00:40:54.239 Um, you know, like him or not. 639 00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:56.480 And I know here again, like I said, he was 640 00:40:57.260 --> 00:41:00.739 in my estimation and trying to be provocative there, but, uh, 641 00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:04.449 I get his point and, uh, um, I'm kind of, he, 642 00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:07.579 in a roundabout way, if he would have said it differently, 643 00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:11.760 I get where he's coming from. And here again, we 644 00:41:11.780 --> 00:41:17.019 don't need a lot of social, political wranglings going on 645 00:41:17.059 --> 00:41:19.300 within the military. Let me wrap this up with what's 646 00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:24.510 going on with France. And, you know, this thing with 647 00:41:24.550 --> 00:41:30.130 France right now, if you're not familiar, there's these France, 648 00:41:30.510 --> 00:41:37.289 in France, there's these quote unquote protests we use that 649 00:41:37.329 --> 00:41:41.329 word protest very selectively whoever is burning something down when 650 00:41:41.349 --> 00:41:43.469 they're on our side we call it a protest when 651 00:41:43.510 --> 00:41:47.309 it's on their side we call it a riot but 652 00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:58.239 this started out as students apparently who were unhappy with 653 00:41:58.260 --> 00:42:01.239 the fact that there were cuts being made to education. 654 00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:07.800 Okay Fine. Now this has continued to go on. 655 00:42:07.860 --> 00:42:10.519 And it seems like the protesters who are so worried 656 00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:16.449 about the educational system started burning down schools, started burning 657 00:42:16.489 --> 00:42:23.409 down institutions horribly. And I mean, this is horrible. They 658 00:42:23.469 --> 00:42:29.170 actually sent set a

firefighter on fire. They threw a 659 00:42:29.269 --> 00:42:33.139 chemical on him and set him on fire. Now, this 660 00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:38.500 is in protesting. Okay. They threw some sort of an 661 00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:43.469 acid or inflammatory advice in the face of a school teacher. 662 00:42:45.030 --> 00:42:47.909 And these are people that's, okay, come on. Enough with 663 00:42:47.929 --> 00:42:58.380 the bullshit about students. These are terrorists. And the amount 664 00:42:58.389 --> 00:43:02.170 of people involved in this Going by some of the analysis, 665 00:43:02.190 --> 00:43:03.610 going by some of the footage, there's a lot of 666 00:43:03.630 --> 00:43:07.650 people here who are from outside the country and have 667 00:43:07.670 --> 00:43:11.789 a certain ideology. Dare I say what it is. These 668 00:43:11.809 --> 00:43:16.869 are Hamas supporters. I ran across a conservative commentator who 669 00:43:16.909 --> 00:43:23.659 made the comment that, yeah, in France, they're freeing Palestine. 670 00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:27.219 And the result is what's going on over there right now. 671 00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:33.840 They've been liberated and free to do what they want 672 00:43:33.860 --> 00:43:38.739 in France, and this is the result. You know, here again, 673 00:43:38.780 --> 00:43:44.119 that's a politically charged statement, but this is what a 674 00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:46.519 lot of people are describing this as a cautionary tale 675 00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:48.739 for what's about to happen in the UK and what 676 00:43:48.780 --> 00:43:52.179 could certainly happen within the United States. This whole thing 677 00:43:52.219 --> 00:43:58.440 about immigration has been contorted badly. by political actors, mostly 678 00:43:58.500 --> 00:44:01.449 on the left, although left and right has taken advantage 679 00:44:01.489 --> 00:44:09.250 of this issue. But criticizing unchecked immigration labels you as 680 00:44:09.289 --> 00:44:12.230 some sort of a racist or some sort of a whatever, 681 00:44:12.349 --> 00:44:16.840 anti-immigration person, because that's what the left has used this as. 682 00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:21.719 If you say anything to criticize unchecked immigration, you're a hater, 683 00:44:21.780 --> 00:44:23.059 you're this or that or the other thing. 684 00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:24.960 And I remember. 685 00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:30.719 Senator Kennedy, he made an excellent remark. He said, when 686 00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:34.670 you lock your doors at night, you don't do it 687 00:44:34.710 --> 00:44:39.949 because you hate everybody else in the world. You do 688 00:44:39.989 --> 00:44:42.750 it because you don't want anybody to come into your 689 00:44:42.789 --> 00:44:48.269 home when you don't know who they are. And that's 690 00:44:48.289 --> 00:44:52.239 what this thing is about border security. It's not anti-immigration. 691 00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:58.670 Just about everybody that I know isn't anti-immigration. I very 692 00:44:58.789 --> 00:45:03.909 seldom hear anybody say anything negative about the current immigration system. 693 00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:10.639 You know, in the 1920s and the 1930s during the Depression, 694 00:45:11.579 --> 00:45:13.280 a lot of people came to the United States because 695 00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:17.869 it was their only hope. And immigration has happened in 696 00:45:18.250 --> 00:45:21.969 various cases since then, where you just have somebody who 697 00:45:22.860 --> 00:45:25.000 looks at the United States as a beacon of hope. 698 00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:27.659 I don't know how many, because of the podcast in particular, 699 00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:29.579 I've talked to interviewed a lot of people from across 700 00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:32.300 the world. Everybody thinks about the United States is what 701 00:45:32.340 --> 00:45:36.539 they see in movies. Like it's just this utopian place 702 00:45:37.260 --> 00:45:41.519 where there's all these great things and they learn English 703 00:45:41.739 --> 00:45:47.860 in their native land because the general feeling is, is 704 00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:50.500 you got to speak the language of the United States and, 705 00:45:51.489 --> 00:45:51.750 To be. 706 00:45:51.730 --> 00:45:52.809 Successful in the world. 707 00:45:53.349 --> 00:45:55.590 Of course, when we say that here in the United States, 708 00:45:56.030 --> 00:45:58.590 we're called a racist or some other kind of bullshit. 709 00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:03.840 But it's held up as this thing. And most immigrants 710 00:46:04.059 --> 00:46:07.340 come here legally with the idea that they're going to 711 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:10.210 work hard and make their dream come true. Just like 712 00:46:10.230 --> 00:46:13.550 the immigrants did during the Depression. Just like my grandfather did. 713 00:46:15.230 --> 00:46:17.329 And these were people that didn't come here with the 714 00:46:17.389 --> 00:46:20.670 idea of they're going to make the United States like 715 00:46:20.710 --> 00:46:23.949 where they came from. They came here with the idea 716 00:46:23.989 --> 00:46:26.469 they're going to learn the language. They're going to learn 717 00:46:26.510 --> 00:46:28.969 the skills they need to succeed in the economy here. 718 00:46:28.989 --> 00:46:33.289 And they're going to build a life around the American 719 00:46:33.349 --> 00:46:37.130 ideals because the American ideals are what made this country 720 00:46:37.429 --> 00:46:40.139 the kind of place that they wanted to come to. Now, 721 00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:42.679 it doesn't necessarily mean that the United States is the 722 00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:45.179 best place for everybody in the world, but certainly for 723 00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:49.219 a lot of people with that criteria, it is. I mean, 724 00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:51.940 there aren't too many countries around the world who everybody's 725 00:46:51.980 --> 00:46:52.599 trying to get in. 726

00:46:52.619 --> 00:46:53.820 Okay. 727 00:46:53.900 --> 00:46:56.929 I mean, the United States, there's people who cheer up 728 00:46:56.969 --> 00:47:00.809 and down and praise the Lord above when they become 729 00:47:00.849 --> 00:47:03.469 a United States citizen. And it just doesn't happen that 730 00:47:03.510 --> 00:47:04.590 way around the world too often. 731 00:47:05.469 --> 00:47:07.190 Okay. Yeah. 732 00:47:08.539 --> 00:47:11.559 That's a dream that I don't think any of us 733 00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:16.519 want to try to take away from anybody. But there's 734 00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:20.380 a difference between that and just having people pour across 735 00:47:20.420 --> 00:47:26.449 the border. Totally unchecked. And what gets me is the 736 00:47:26.489 --> 00:47:30.150 people that really championed that idea of open borders were 737 00:47:30.170 --> 00:47:33.789 the people that wanted you to lose your job if 738 00:47:33.829 --> 00:47:38.099 you didn't take the COVID vaccine. How many vaccines did 739 00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:42.340 these people they let just pour in across the border? 740 00:47:43.179 --> 00:47:47.619 How many of them were vaccinated against anything? For some reason, 741 00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:50.039 they didn't. That was not a big deal. Millions upon 742 00:47:50.139 --> 00:47:53.340 millions of them. So when we hear a lot about 743 00:47:53.579 --> 00:47:55.780 different things breaking out and everybody saw, oh, that's because 744 00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:57.969 we're anti-vaccine. Now, well, that may be a part of it. 745 00:47:58.239 --> 00:48:01.190 But it also might be that we let untold millions 746 00:48:01.230 --> 00:48:05.360 of people into this country thoroughly unchecked. From parts of 747 00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.440 the world, we have no idea exactly where they came 748 00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:14.530 from or what they brought in with them. And now 749 00:48:15.170 --> 00:48:18.909 the attitude isn't, I'm going to come here. I love America. 750 00:48:18.929 --> 00:48:22.949 I want to learn what made America great and make 751 00:48:23.030 --> 00:48:27.840 that work for me. That's not what they're doing. They're 752 00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:29.900 coming from a place that they claim that they're not 753 00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:34.059 safe in. They come to the United States extolling the 754 00:48:34.099 --> 00:48:37.769 virtues of the place that they claim hates them. And 755 00:48:37.789 --> 00:48:40.329 they want to change America when they don't get what 756 00:48:40.369 --> 00:48:44.510 they want. They burn it down. They hate the people 757 00:48:44.630 --> 00:48:48.059 that they're around. They hate the country that they came 758 00:48:48.219 --> 00:48:51.980 to claiming that they weren't safe or they couldn't be 759 00:48:52.019 --> 00:48:57.610 successful where they were. And. You mix that in a 760 00:48:57.610 --> 00:49:00.780 lot of these riots I'm theorizing in France right now. 761 00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:03.539 There's some local people doing that as well. This is 762 00:49:03.579 --> 00:49:07.860 all part of an entitlement culture that is going unchecked, 763 00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:11.760 whether it's citizens or whether. 764 00:49:11.070 --> 00:49:12.920 It's coming in just. 765 00:49:12.530 --> 00:49:17.329 Unchecked across the border. People now expect, you know, you 766 00:49:17.329 --> 00:49:20.139 give them $ 5 and they look at you and say, 767 00:49:20.179 --> 00:49:26.019 is that all you got? There's this entitlement culture now 768 00:49:26.699 --> 00:49:28.199 that if they don't get what they want, they're going 769 00:49:28.219 --> 00:49:30.920 to make somebody pay for not giving them what they want. 770 00:49:33.139 --> 00:49:37.869 And It's going to hurt the function of the world 771 00:49:38.010 --> 00:49:40.130 because it's not just in the United States. It's certainly 772 00:49:40.170 --> 00:49:45.989 that way throughout Europe. It's that way in other countries. 773 00:49:46.050 --> 00:49:51.170 I would say probably not China. Probably not the Asiatic cultures. 774 00:49:51.250 --> 00:49:54.960 Probably they understand, you know, they come here with a 775 00:49:54.980 --> 00:49:56.519 shirt on their back. And within a couple of years, 776 00:49:56.559 --> 00:49:58.239 their kids are at the top of the honor roll. 777 00:49:58.260 --> 00:50:01.829 They speak fluent English. It's not because they're better than 778 00:50:01.849 --> 00:50:04.469 everybody else. It's because they have a culture which understands 779 00:50:04.510 --> 00:50:11.099 and appreciates work. They respect their parents. They respect their teachers. 780 00:50:12.260 --> 00:50:16.860 They respect the ideal of work. We have none of 781 00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:20.820 that in Western culture. Absolutely none of it to amount 782 00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:24.570 to anything. Maybe in the top five or 10%, there's a, 783 00:50:25.849 --> 00:50:28.300 If you take a country of ours, like 350 million, 784 00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:31.739 there's probably several million who are just absolutely brilliant people. 785 00:50:32.300 --> 00:50:35.460 And they are carrying what the success that the United 786 00:50:35.500 --> 00:50:38.539 States has. They're the ones that are developing all the 787 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:43.659 shit that we all take pride in. And more and more, 788 00:50:43.699 --> 00:50:48.909 there's more people in the wagon than there is pulling it. 789 00:50:51.329 --> 00:50:53.250 And here again, I don't want anybody to die in 790 00:50:53.289 --> 00:50:56.050 the street of poverty. I do believe we need health 791 00:50:56.110 --> 00:50:58.690 care reform. I don't think anybody should be wiped out 792 00:50:58.750 --> 00:51:04.960 because they've had a bad disease. But that's not what 793 00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:09.980 we're talking about here. We are talking about an entitlement 794 00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:15.769 culture that wants to do next to nothing,

wants to 795 00:51:16.110 --> 00:51:21.760 punish successful people through socialism, Make them out to be 796 00:51:21.780 --> 00:51:26.500 the villains. But they want all the comforts. That hard 797 00:51:26.539 --> 00:51:31.719 work provide. And they somehow think. That that is an entitlement. 798 00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:34.760 And when they don't get their way. You get what's 799 00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:37.599 happening in France. And you get what's happening in Greece. 800 00:51:37.699 --> 00:51:39.840 And you get what's happening in other places around the world. 801 00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:45.079 Not critically in France right now. But they've had. Altruistic. 802 00:51:45.980 --> 00:51:48.679 Problems with. Things like that all through Europe. 803 00:51:50.050 --> 00:51:50.489 So anyway. 804 00:51:51.650 --> 00:51:56.989 That's kind of our recap. This is our commentary podcast 805 00:51:58.690 --> 00:52:00.429 for this time period that we're in. We have a 806 00:52:00.550 --> 00:52:04.039 lot of things coming up. We have more commentary. We 807 00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:07.139 have more discussion shows. And we have more interviews with 808 00:52:07.179 --> 00:52:10.460 some really great authors and some people from the showbiz world. 809 00:52:10.579 --> 00:52:12.500 So a lot coming up through the month of October 810 00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:18.059 and November. So thank you so much for listening. Like 811 00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:19.559 I told you before, you can find the Billy Dee's 812 00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.480 podcast anywhere you find podcasts. 813 00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:26.699 We are on all the platforms. We do not have paywalls. 814 00:52:26.969 --> 00:52:30.710 You can subscribe for free, and we would love to 815 00:52:30.789 --> 00:52:34.309 have you. You can find me on most social media platforms, 816 00:52:35.309 --> 00:52:37.789 but probably I'm going to say X, which is the 817 00:52:37.989 --> 00:52:42.699 former Twitter. You can find me there at Billy Dee's. 818 00:52:43.969 --> 00:52:46.559 Thank you so much for checking out our program today. 819 00:52:46.579 --> 00:52:49.639 And we will be talking to you soon again. 820 00:52:50.690 --> 00:52:51.389 Very, very soon. 821 00:52:56.199 --> 00:52:59.199 I'm Billy Dees and host of the self-titled podcast, The 822 00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:02.719 Billy Dees Podcast. We are primarily an interview and a 823 00:53:02.780 --> 00:53:07.219 commentary-based podcast featuring authors and creators talking about their craft, 824 00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:11.199 advocates for community issues, and myself and an array of 825 00:53:11.260 --> 00:53:15.420 co-hosts discussing current events. There's no partisan ranting and raving 826 00:53:15.460 --> 00:53:18.780 going on here, just great content. You can find The 827 00:53:18.800 --> 00:53:22.179 Billy Dees Podcast on your favorite platform and on Twitter, 828 00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:23.480 at Billy Dees. 829 00:53:23.739 --> 00:53:25.650 Thank you, and I hope you listen in.