Stop the Synod, Save the Council? Cardinal Zen's Blind Spot의 전체 녹취록

morning to bother you, and I figured you would laugh at it. 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:54.160 I'm gonna see if I can set mine up to call you every 10 minutes. 00:04:55.040 --> 00:04:57.040 Dude, I will kill you. 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:05.839 Um, I don't have the patience to watch YouTube except for Catholics named Anthony who talk about tradition, and of course, Tim Gordon, even though his name isn't Anthony. 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:15.120 Oh, speaking of Tim Gordon, so Tim wanted to come on, but okay, so we are limited on the amount of shows we have until Italy. 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:20.800 So tonight we have three shows after tonight, and then I'm gone. 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:24.959 So I told Tim it was too short a notice, but he wanted to come on and talk Aristotle. 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:31.279 Uh, I told him we would at least throw a plug to the to the uh class that he's teaching. 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:35.839 Um so uh when I get back, maybe we'll have Tim on and we'll discuss Aristotle. 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:40.319 Because that's that's Tim's like that's when he's in the zone, like philosophy and stuff. 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:44.240 So um let me just give the plug for his class. 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:45.759 Where the hell is Telegram? 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:49.600 Um sorry, guys. 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:59.439 Uh okay, so starting this Friday, Tim Gordon is teaching a class on how to master the more most important secular book in history in the in the history of the world, Aristotle's Ethics. 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:03.199 No adult can afford to not know this book by this Thanksgiving. 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:07.279 Uh thank think oh, I don't know if you mistook mistyped there. 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:12.319 Uh, less in less than four weeks from now, you will have read and mastered this book if you take this class. 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:16.720 And Tim, uh, I sent the link to there, Rob, if you could just post the link. 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:21.040 But uh he's going, he's gonna go through uh Aristotle's Ethics. 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:22.319 It's a four-week class. 00:06:22.399 --> 00:06:26.879 He's gonna send me two of the first two because he's doing one this week and then one next week. 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:30.639 So he's gonna send me those, and I'm gonna try and listen to those on the plane. 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:34.240 And uh then when I get back, maybe we'll do a little an episode about it. 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:49.439 Um other than that, uh, we have to talk about Cardinal Zen tonight because everybody's raving about the Cardinal Zen thing, and I'm reading it and I'm just going, What a disaster this is. 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:53.120 Like he sounds like a beneficantist. 00:06:55.600 --> 00:06:56.160 He does. 00:06:56.319 --> 00:07:05.040 It's like he is he is uh uh acting like Francis was the first problem, you know. 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:05.519 Right. 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:07.120 We'll we'll go through it. 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:14.240 Um but before we do, should we just do the ad rings now since we did that whole intro about ads? 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00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:54.240 Yeah, but you're not gonna like the way Ant gives it to you, probably. 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:55.279 Yeah, listen. 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:58.399 This this dating my daughter stuff, everybody better chill. 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:01.840 Hear that, guys? 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:04.399 I'm not gonna put up those comments on screen anymore, apparently. 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:04.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:12:05.039 --> 00:12:07.200 Enough, enough with the dating Anthony's daughter stuff. 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:09.200 Well, uh anyway. 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:12.320 Um, all right, let's bring the Cardinal's end suite up. 00:12:12.879 --> 00:12:13.200 Okay. 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:25.919 So um while you're bringing it up, on the plane ride to Italy, uh, I was talking with American Reform this morning, and he sent me You were not on a plane to Italy this morning. 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:26.879 No, no, no. 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:33.279 I was talking with American Reform this morning, and he sent me a book that I'm going to read on the plane ride to Italy. 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:33.519 Okay. 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:33.919 I'm sorry. 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:34.559 There you go. 00:12:34.799 --> 00:12:36.559 I'm a little all over the place today. 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:39.840 Um so on the plane ride to Italy. 00:12:40.000 --> 00:12:48.080 I plan on reading this book, and I am pretty sure when I come back, it's gonna be one of those holy crap, Rob, we have to have one of these deep episodes. 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:56.799 Um, it is man, he sent me so many screenshots of it already. 00:12:56.879 --> 00:12:59.759 All right, The Plot Against the Church by Maurice Pinet. 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:07.679 So I ordered a hardcover

copy and I got the PDF. 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:15.840 And just to uh uh just to um Tim's throwing me off. 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:17.279 Tim just texted me. 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:19.679 Um what the heck was I just gonna say? 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:22.240 Tell Grok to call him back and tell him to stop. 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:27.440 Um, hang on. 00:13:27.840 --> 00:13:28.559 What the heck? 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:30.960 I need to I need to gather my thoughts. 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:33.120 I'm all over the place tonight. 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:38.399 Um I wanted I want you to just see the the one quote that I posted today from it. 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:41.519 Because it has to do with what we're about to read from Cardinal Zen. 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:51.120 Um why is Twitter so annoying? 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:52.799 Well, you're on it. 00:13:53.120 --> 00:13:54.799 Yeah, and I do tweet a lot. 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:55.759 You do. 00:13:57.039 --> 00:14:00.639 Yeah, and he's a penitent planner, he can't remember what he's gonna do on his own show. 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:06.639 Okay, so the all right, so this book that I'm going to read on the plane, it was written right before the council. 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:07.120 Okay? 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:10.080 This is a this is a quote from the introduction. 00:14:10.320 --> 00:14:19.440 A further disastrous plan which is being prepared is that the church shall contradict itself so as a result to sacrifice its regard with the faithful. 00:14:19.679 --> 00:14:24.559 For later it will broadcast that an institution which contradicts itself cannot be divine. 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:32.240 With this proof, they wish to desolate the church, the churches, and achieve that the faithful lose their confidence in the clergy and abandon them. 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:38.480 It is intended to cause the church to declare that what it has represented for centuries as bad is now good. 00:14:38.639 --> 00:14:48.559 Among such maneuvers, spun for this purpose, one particularly stands out on account of its importance and refers, in fact, to the conduct of Holy Church towards the damned Jews. 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:58.879 As Saint Augustine calls them, and in and this in reference both to those who nailed Christ to the cross as also to their descendants who are both arch enemies of Christianity. 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:05.279 Um, maybe we could do next Tuesday because we're gonna do we're we got tonight planned. 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:08.159 Let me just see uh maybe next Tuesday. 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:09.360 Tim's texting me right now. 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:13.200 So let me uh as long as we don't have a guest for next Tuesday lined up, I don't think we do. 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:15.600 We'll just maybe we'll just do next Tuesday. 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:30.799 Um so yeah, this whole this whole plot against the church, the whole idea of the council, this whole book is about the fifth column that infiltrates the church during the council. 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:37.279 And the whole thing is about how the teaching on the Jews is no longer going to be taught by the church. 00:15:37.360 --> 00:15:46.960 It's about getting the church to declare that it is against anti-Semitism, all the stuff that we saw happen, all the stuff that comes out in the documents of the council. 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:56.320 So I'm looking forward to reading this book and getting a getting like a view of what was this was because it was written in 1962. 00:15:56.399 --> 00:16:00.559 It's not like it was written after the council, it's not like it was written after the liturgy was changed. 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:07.440 This was written in the lead up after the council was set and planned, and it was released during the council, I guess. 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:08.879 What year did the council start? 00:16:09.200 --> 00:16:10.000 62. 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:21.919 So it was it was handed out to all the council fathers, all the council fathers got a copy of this book, and the whole thing is basically about the subversion of the Jews into the council. 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:22.960 So I'm gonna read that. 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:23.519 So let's go. 00:16:23.600 --> 00:16:24.799 Do you have Cardinal Zen's tweet? 00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:25.360 Let's bring that up. 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:26.320 Yep, I sure do. 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:27.120 Give me one second. 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:29.840 There's a ton of good stuff in this tweet, by the way. 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:42.080 There's a ton of good stuff in this tweet, and a lot of people are happy about it, and it's it is good, but the whole framing of it is off because he's trying to pitch it like synod bad, council good. 00:16:42.399 --> 00:16:52.639 And it goes to show you that even the best of the cardinals out there, because Cardinal Zen is clearly a devout Catholic who loves our Lord and loves the church. 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:58.159 It's just the Kool-Aid these guys drank during this period. 00:16:58.559 --> 00:17:02.559 They just um so Cardinal Zen's what 90s, nine mid-90s, right? 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:03.120 Yeah. 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:08.480 So he would have been born, well, let's just say what 1930s? 00:17:08.559 --> 00:17:14.720 So he would have been I don't know when he was ordained, but he would have probably been a priest during the council, right? 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:17.119 He's in his 30s, right? 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:20.079 So I mean, I would imagine he was ordained. 00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:24.000 Wait, is your virtual assistant calling me right now? 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:26.000 Why would it be doing that? 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:30.000 Hello. 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:39.200 Hey there, I'm a virtual assistant calling for Rob, producer at Avoiding Babylon, on a recorded line to read the Gettysburg address. 00:17:40.319 --> 00:17:41.839 Are you out of your mind? 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:47.839 All right. 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:51.359 Oh, it's

as it says you answer, but hung up before the reading started. 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:53.200 Reading the Gettysburg address. 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:59.599 All right, so I could have it do it in a Hawaiian pigeon. 00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:02.559 We're gonna play around with it after. 00:18:02.720 --> 00:18:03.279 Stop distracted. 00:18:03.519 --> 00:18:03.759 Okay, okay. 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:05.440 So while remembering St. 00:18:05.519 --> 00:18:09.200 Charles Barromeo, A, today is the feast day of St. 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:10.400 Charles Barromeo. 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:13.680 He was a great Archbishop of Milan, the largest diocese in Italy. 00:18:13.839 --> 00:18:18.319 The Council of Trent, which had to resolve many problems, had taken place at that time. 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:26.880 The Protestant Reformation contained heresies and defined the sacraments, rejecting the Eucharist and the true priesthood, and the council served as a counter-reformation. 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:32.720 However, there were also internal issues within the church that required a thorough reform. 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:37.920 The powers of the nobility had weakened the church, and the formation of the clergy had been greatly neglected. 00:18:38.079 --> 00:18:41.680 The council lasted 18 years under the leadership of three popes. 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:48.960 Our second Vatican Council lasted four years under two popes, John the XXIII, who began it, and Paul VI, who continued and concluded it. 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:51.599 A great deal of work followed the Council of Trent. 00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:57.680 Many diocesan synods at Milan and many other dioceses, parti uh partly under the influence of St. 00:18:57.759 --> 00:19:03.039 Charles Barromeo, truly brought forth the fruits envisioned by the Council of Trent. 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:03.680 B. 00:19:04.720 --> 00:19:10.960 Many years after the Second Vatican Council, we must regrettably acknowledge today that it has not been sufficiently fruitful. 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:23.920 It has been under constant attack by those who claim to be continuing the council, arguing that its reform was not completed, while on the other hand, there are those who suspect that the council contains assertions contrary to the tradition of the church. 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:28.079 So this is like why I read that whole preamble, right? 00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:38.400 It's that the mission of the subversion was to get the church to contradict itself so that those people would look on and go, the church can't be divine because it contradicted itself. 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:40.640 There are tons of people who say that. 00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:44.880 That is the entire argument from the Eastern Ortho, all the Ortho Bros say that. 00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:50.400 Every liberal Catholic says it, and the super trad say it. 00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:50.880 Right? 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:58.240 Like they're not saying the church isn't divine, they're saying that this can't be the church, things like that, you know, the set the the novice or sect like that. 00:19:58.480 --> 00:19:59.119 Yeah. 00:19:59.599 --> 00:20:01.599 Following the following the example of St. 00:20:01.759 --> 00:20:06.000 Charles Baromeo was the Archbishop of Krakow, Krakow or Krakow? 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:09.279 Uh Croody. 00:20:09.839 --> 00:20:13.759 Either, either or it depends on who later became uh Pope John Paul II. 00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:23.599 He worked strenuously within with his diocesan community to ensure that the churches, uh that the council's documents were thoroughly understood and their teachings put into practice. 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:27.680 Obviously, this did not happen in all the dioceses of the church. 00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:37.839 Man, there's it's so interesting how I would have agreed with that statement years ago. 00:20:40.079 --> 00:20:52.960 It's what what what John Paul II did was there was such a a liberal push under Paul the Sixth. 00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:59.279 That John Paul II coming in and putting the brakes on some of this stuff seemed like a lurch to the right. 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:02.160 but it was still a lurch to the left. 00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:18.480 It was just it was just so insane under Paul the Sixth That John Paul II coming out and writing something like Veritatus Splendor seemed like, oh, we're putting the brakes on all this stuff, and the church still believes the things that it claims, you know, that all the things about morality. 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:30.240 But it was so sneaky what was going on with religious liberty and how much that Rob, don't you look at religious liberty so completely differently now than you did even like five years ago? 00:21:31.119 --> 00:21:33.119 Uh I don't know about five years ago. 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:37.440 Um ten years ago, yeah, for sure. 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:42.000 We were we were always suspicious of it like from from when we started the show, right? 00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:44.799 Like so from when we started the show, we were already suspicious of it. 00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:58.160 I just think we've learned so much more through conversations, the papal encyclical theories, and then just experience of seeing the fruits of religious freedom in our own country over the past 10 years. 00:21:58.480 --> 00:21:59.759 I you know, it's one of those. 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:07.839 Things I think even as a as a kid cradle Catholic, like the idea of religious liberty was always kind of silly to me. 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:18.400 But um yeah, just it's within the last couple of years where I think I've realized just how central of an issue it is to the problems in the world today. 00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:46.240 I I would have never thought how even probably look because I always make the statement I'm like, look, religious liberty or religious tolerance is one thing when you're dealing with Protestants and Catholics agreeing to not be violent

towards each other, and you know, but what an issue it is for your children to be in a public school with a bunch of Protestants and your kids are Catholic, like it it's let alone the foreigners we have now, right? 00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:46.640 Right. 00:22:46.799 --> 00:22:48.319 It's so much worse there. 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:57.200 But what it puts in your kids' head is like doubt, it puts doubt in your kids' head immediately. 00:22:57.440 --> 00:23:02.559 You can't claim to have the one and the one true religion and also claim that all religions are a path to God. 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:07.519 Not even just that, every one of those kids all think they have the one true religion. 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:12.000 So that in itself is something that it worked in my that's what happened in my head as a kid. 00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:16.400 It was like, well, the Jews think they're right, and the Muslims think they're right, and the Protestants think they're right. 00:23:16.480 --> 00:23:18.000 Like, who are we to say that we're right? 00:23:18.160 --> 00:23:21.359 Everybody just thinks they're right, and you just believe whatever you were raised to believe. 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:32.480 And it's not until you investigate the claims of the church that your faith is solidified, because only the church actually has like the proof behind it. 00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:34.000 Yeah. 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:43.359 So it it's just I I never realize how central this issue is and how problematic it is in the church. 00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:52.799 I would have even said all the things John Paul said, like I I would have said uh he he he had good motives in it. 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:53.839 I might still say that. 00:23:53.920 --> 00:24:00.480 I don't I don't know if John Paul understood the how how duplicitous it was what he was doing. 00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:14.319 I think he thought, I think after the after World War II, I think the propaganda was so strong that it's possible he thought he was bringing hostilities to an end throughout the world. 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:24.000 Like like the Catholic mind was conditioned to think religious wars were religion was the cause of all wars. 00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:27.440 But all even today, all wars are religious wars. 00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:35.200 Uh even secular wars are religious wars because it's it's like revolution is a religious war. 00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:39.680 Okay, but yeah, that stuff didn't really start until like the 19th century. 00:24:39.759 --> 00:24:43.039 Before that, vast majority of wars were over like resources. 00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:43.920 Yeah, that's true. 00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:47.440 Especially Catholic countries fighting Catholic countries, those weren't religious wars. 00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:53.119 I mean, the matter of fact, the study was done, and it's like two percent of all wars have been due to religion and not second. 00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:55.039 I think I'm being hyperbolic when I say it,

though. 00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:55.599 You know what I mean? 00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:56.559 Yeah, yeah. 00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:02.079 I mean, uh the the ideological wars over the last 200 years, two, three hundred years. 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:09.279 Yeah, I mean, whether you're fighting for Nazism, communism, whatever, yeah, those I mean that's a religion, right? 00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:12.079 I don't I don't mean it in the way the secular world describes it. 00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:15.920 Like the secular world describes it like the church is burning heretics at the stake. 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:17.680 Yeah, yeah, I don't mean it like that. 00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:27.920 I mean, even the like the Protestant Reformation is a religious war, and then even World War II is a religious war when you think about the ideologies behind it. 00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:50.079 You're fighting you're fighting, you know, it's not religion in the proper sense, obviously, but um but the the I think the Catholic mind after World War II, the pressure they were they were putting on people, they really did trick them into thinking a lot of Catholics thought they were responsible for the Holocaust. 00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:54.079 That that Christians were responsible for hatred of the Jews. 00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:54.880 Right. 00:25:55.759 --> 00:26:08.079 So, um okay, so popes Paul VI, John Paul II, and Benedict the 16th did a great deal to ensure that the council achieved its desired purpose and they succeeded to a certain extent. 00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:14.960 Many bishops found themselves in difficult in difficulty after the council. 00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:16.400 Did I miss something? 00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:16.960 No. 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:19.359 I said, did they? 00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:31.440 Like, did they actually many bishops found themselves in difficulty after the council because they did not know how to explain to the faithful precisely what the council had changed in the life of the church and what it had not changed. 00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:45.119 The Holy See, under the leadership of Cardinal Ratzinger, following extensive consultations throughout the church, drew up a catechism containing the entire dogmatic, moral, and liturgical doctrine of the church, set out in a systematic order. 00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:51.359 However, the sheer volume of the catechism may have put people off, and not many have actually studied it. 00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:54.720 Catechism, man. 00:26:55.039 --> 00:27:00.400 I'm the don't don't the the Rob, you're putting your kids through catechism class right now. 00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:02.160 Like I can't, yeah. 00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:03.279 Yeah, one of them. 00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:10.559 I can't tell you how important it is to drill the Baltimore Catechism into your kids' heads because they're learning nothing at that class. 00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:11.759 Oh, yeah, we go through that. 00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:13.119 We go through that ourselves. 00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:24.160 Yeah, that like the just the wrought memorization of things are it's super important for young kids to go through that stuff because we were taught nothing in religion class when we were kids. 00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:30.559 Religion class, especially when you're younger, it's like coloring books and nonsense and it's crossword puzzles. 00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:32.880 It's so dumb how they how they do it. 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:34.240 It's just so ridiculous. 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:38.319 These kids that go to religion class are not being taught a single thing. 00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:40.720 No, it's all it's all about feels. 00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:49.599 And they're and they're being taught you're in the church if you're a person of goodwill, whether you're Protestant, Muslim, Jewish. 00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:54.400 Anyone that's that's what that's what one of your kids' books literally said, right? 00:27:55.279 --> 00:28:10.400 Yeah, and and in a way, they're playing off the church, it subsists mainly in the church, but our separated brothers and sisters, like that's what they're playing on. 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:24.240 They're playing on that whole idea of the church, the the true church subsists mainly in the Catholic Church, but like I don't know how much of a fan I am of calling Protestants our separated brothers and sisters anymore. 00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:27.119 I've never been comfortable with it. 00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:34.559 Yeah, well, look, it's it's one of those things where like if you're talking to a Protestant, it's a great cat, it's like, oh, you're our separated brethren. 00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:36.799 It's like, no, no, you're not. 00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:38.400 No, they're heretics. 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:54.000 But Protestant converts love using the phrase, so maybe um I like I don't I understand it like not nearly as many of them probably have valid baptisms as as we're led to believe, right? 00:28:54.160 --> 00:29:00.400 And two, even the ones who do have separated themselves from the church, there are many other uh many other ways, right? 00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:03.039 So no, they're not they're not are they really Christian? 00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:03.759 Not really. 00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:05.440 See, I don't see that. 00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:18.559 I think speaking of invalid baptisms, like I know the church recognizes the baptisms of of certain denominations because they did the right formula, but I still think the church should do a conditional baptism of the person that comes in. 00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:21.039 So my wife just texted me because she's listening. 00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:25.920 She says, and she she's a Protestant convert, she says she she hates the phrase separated brethren. 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:30.079 Yeah, you know, she doesn't feel like she was a separate separated brethren before she was. 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:40.480 You know why, yeah, but you have to understand how

brainwashed everybody is from Catholic answers and like the usual route into apologetics into the church. 00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:47.839 So many people are just brainwashed by that whole separated brothers and sisters, and Jews are our elder brothers in the faith. 00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:55.599 Like that's how people come in, so that's how they learn to speak, and that's how it's like that's how you have a polite conversation with a Protestant. 00:29:55.680 --> 00:30:00.480 You call them our separated brethren, and you know, Bishop Sheen used that phraseology. 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:08.000 And oh okay, see, forces opposed to the council have been troubling the church throughout these years. 00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:18.720 Regrettably, in these recent years, we have had the supreme head of the of our church who, whilst proclaiming the great validity of the Second Vatican Council, was in fact not faithful to its decrees. 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:20.000 What decrees? 00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:21.119 Well, do you see what he just said? 00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:22.799 What actual decrees? 00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:24.720 Go back a tiny bit. 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:31.599 Regrettably, in these recent years, we have had the supreme he he's a beneficantist. 00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:35.680 I don't get that position. 00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:40.319 I mean, he he's not because he still says this the supreme head of our church. 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:48.559 I know, I know, but yeah, I I see what you yeah, he thinks there was some sort of rupture, not necessarily one in which invalidated the papacy, right? 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:52.720 Yeah, no, I don't think he he definitely believes there's a rupture that happened with France, right? 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:57.519 He doesn't I'm not saying he thinks Francis was not a real pope, I'm not saying he thinks Leo is not a real pope. 00:30:57.759 --> 00:31:02.559 He I think he thinks everything was fine up until Francis. 00:31:02.799 --> 00:31:08.960 Well, here's the thing I think the people who think that think that because of Benedict. 00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:21.759 If instead of Benedict, who was a little bit, you know, if if JP2 was a little bit further to the right than Paul VI, then Benedict was a little bit further to the right than JP2. 00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:32.400 But if instead of Benedict you had someone, someone who was somewhere between JP2 and Francis, it wouldn't have been such a drastic if for if you had had Leo. 00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:44.079 If you had Leo between JP2 and Francis, I think you would clearly see that devolution, but instead you have Benedict, so it looks like we were going the other way and then turned around. 00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:53.759 I think after Benedict would have been Leo, then Francis would like it's almost like they're out of order. 00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:57.839 In ideology, kind of, yeah. 00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:00.160 And that's why they had to get rid of Benedict, right? 00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:18.160 Because the same ideology, it is the same ideology, it's uh in no, because you know, you you got Francis was Francis ratcheted it all the way to the left, and then Leo comes in to like plug, like, oh, slow down, slow down, slow down, right? 00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:29.839 But the overton window shifted, and now people are just like content that Leo is not saying stuff like there was in Amoris Letitia and stuff like that. 00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:42.319 Man, yeah, look, I I get some people thinking that there's a rupture after Benedict. 00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:46.960 But the more you look into this, you kind of just see this one continuous stream. 00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:47.680 It really is. 00:32:47.759 --> 00:33:04.240 It's it's all the same error, it it all stems from religious liberty, like it really does stem from religious liberty, yeah, and it stems from our posture towards the Jews, specifically, right? 00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:21.920 It's it's religious liberty in general, but it's specifically our posture towards the Jews, our our inability to uh discuss the Jewish question, to wrestle with uh the role of the Jews in salvation history, in the apocalypse, yeah, all this stuff. 00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:31.519 Like this is this is a fundamental, this is the fundamental, it really is not about liturgy, it's really not about liturgy. 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:36.079 Well, liturgy is part of it, but liturgy is not the cause of it, no, right. 00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:43.279 And we and we know that because we had these super based popes with the proper liturgy, and this stuff this stuff still came in. 00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:47.759 So it's not like, oh, let's just get the right liturgy in and get a super base pope and this stuff ends. 00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:58.240 No, if that really did happen, if after Leo you get some super base pope and the liturgy goes back, you're just you're going to see persecution in a way you've never seen. 00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:09.920 Because the church, the world is so used to the church on this liberal pivot and progressive pivot that to to to flip something back to what it was in the preconcilia era, forget it. 00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:21.360 Yeah, you the the even though the church has very little like um moral standing in the world today, I mean obviously it does, right? 00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:24.639 It's you know, the it's the church of Christ. 00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:27.199 Um, but the world doesn't think so. 00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:35.760 I think the church would actually lose whatever moral standing it has left with the rest of the world if it did an about face. 00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:59.519 And I'm not saying it, I'm not I'm not, I'm not using that as an argument to say it shouldn't, but um, but yeah, like you were saying, we saw we read so many of the documents that were, like you said, Uber-based, and they did not do a single thing to slow the the steamroller that was secular liberalism, which is really just a

tool of Judaism. 00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:02.239 I think this went from outside the church to inside the church. 00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:09.840 So we we I was on with Gaspers last night with Josh and Hitchbourne, and we discussed the moralia of Job that Pope Gregory wrote. 00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:21.440 Uh Hitchborne kind of took us through it, and and Pope Gregory posited that um the book of Job is an allegory for the life of the church. 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:26.880 So Job, the first bunch of things that happen to him are all external. 00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:32.079 Um, you know, he's getting lesions on his on his body and he loses everything. 00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:41.679 But then Satan goes and tells tells God, um, well, sure, he's of course he still loves you, but you haven't let me touch his person. 00:35:41.760 --> 00:35:50.320 And then God allows him to touch his person, and then he loses his family, and he gets, you know, all these things start becoming spiritual um harm. 00:35:51.199 --> 00:36:07.840 So if you look at the the church after the reformation, it's all the outer things to her externals are like the church is besieged on all fronts from the externals, all the governments of the world are no longer Catholic, and they all start, and you start seeing this great persecution from without. 00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:18.639 But then at the council, and it lines up with the whole con uh the whole locution that Pope Leo the Thirteenth has, where he sees God and the devil in that hundred-year period. 00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:21.840 Like Michael Hitchborn, if you guys didn't watch that show last night, it's really good. 00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:41.199 And especially that segment, Hitchbourne kind of takes us through all of it, talking about Pope Leo XIII's locution, uh, about the 75 to 100 year period, and he takes us through uh how Job, how everything, you know, so the church is beset from outside, then after the council, it's beset from inside. 00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:49.840 But all of this ties into especially with the Jewish question stuff, because the synagogue enters the church. 00:36:50.000 --> 00:37:03.599 That's essentially what happens, and you have the synagogue of Satan within the church now, and it ties into the idea that we have to be delivered up to the religious leaders like our Lord did. 00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:06.639 And if you and if you even think to PO, Rob St. 00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:12.639 PO think about what the church did to him. 00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:20.559 Yeah, think right, like you think about like how much he was delivered up to his religious leaders, he's literally suffering the wounds of Christ. 00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:25.679 I was gonna say, I think, yeah, I think the stem the stigmata he suffered. 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:28.639 Like he his life definitely a Christ figure, right? 00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:31.519 His life is an example of the passion of the church, St. 00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:32.480 P.O., right? 00:37:32.719

--> 00:37:40.639 The man is literally the living through this the passion his whole life, and he gets handed over to the religious leaders just like Christ did. 00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:46.239 Like he's he's actually the saint for our times for us to understand what we're going through right now. 00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:52.960 But at no time, and and he lives through the council, he lives through the liturgical changes. 00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:55.840 At no time, the Saint P.O. 00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:59.599 say Paul VI is an anti-pope, John the 20th turns an anti-pope. 00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:01.920 Like, no, I'm sorry, he doesn't. 00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:13.519 There's a the it's just look, I understand this stuff is bonkers that we're looking at, and we're and we're still we're criticizing Zen because he won't see what the main problem is. 00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:19.280 But none of this stuff invalidates the orders and the and and things like that, in my opinion. 00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:21.119 Still, I still don't think it does. 00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:25.280 And I just think we're living through the passion in a really severe way. 00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:26.320 All right, bring bring it up. 00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:28.559 Let's let's let's run through the rest of this. 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:35.920 Pope Francis was certainly admirable for his kindness and especial concern for the poor and weak. 00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:41.920 However, this kindness and predilection having uh have lacked balance. 00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:47.840 He seemed to believe that out of compassion for these people, one can even compromise on the truth. 00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:58.320 He believed that the primary danger within the church is clericalism and thought that through a general consultation of the people of God he could succeed in having his line of thinking approved. 00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:00.079 He was certainly a reformist. 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:05.920 He destroyed many good things built upon by his predecessors, built up by his predecessors. 00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:10.719 He did not appreciate the entire struggle in defense of orthodoxy waged by John Paul II. 00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:12.239 Defense of Orthodox. 00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:18.400 Well, first off, we don't capitalize orthodoxy in English unless we're talking about the East. 00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:34.159 But well, also for you younger guys, though, for you younger guys, you actually don't know what it looks like to have like the press against the Pope. 00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:40.400 You guys don't know what it looks like to seem like the left hates the Pope. 00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:45.920 Because we have had two consecutive Popes where they were the darling of the left. 00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:53.039 Yeah, you never see media criticism of Leo, you never saw media criticism of Francis, ever. 00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:57.679 Where you did see that stuff with John Paul II and Benedict. 00:39:57.760 --> 00:40:05.119 Like Benedict,

when Benedict gave his Regensburg address, holy cow, did they lose their minds? 00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:07.280 We should do an episode on that, Rob. 00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:08.480 We should. 00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:12.639 We should actually, that would be a good one to have Gordon on for. 00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:15.440 Like he he uh he's done like a ton on that. 00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:20.719 So maybe if we get him on, we'll do Aristotle and the Regensburg Address. 00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:24.159 Um but yeah, Benedict the Regensburg Address. 00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:38.320 I mean, it's been so long since I've read it, but he's basically talking about um he's talking about how Islam spreads through the sword and Christianity is spread through evangelism, but he's also talking about religious indifferentism. 00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:43.199 He calls it the not the tyranny. 00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:44.400 What did he call it, Rob? 00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:51.440 Um the the the the dictator is it the dictatorship of relativism? 00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:52.639 Moral relativism. 00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:53.920 Moral relativism, yeah, yeah. 00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:58.320 The dictatorship of relativism is that what Benedict was always going on about. 00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:04.159 And because Benedict really did look, he for all his problems, the man did believe the Catholic faith. 00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:09.519 He really did, you know, and he saw how moral relativism was becoming a dictatorship. 00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:18.960 How he saw how and it is interesting that like gay marriage and stuff wasn't legalized until he was out of the picture. 00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:25.039 He was he was way more of a catacomb than Francis. 00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:28.239 I mean, it happened well what I think. 00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:31.920 in 2013. 00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:35.440 So he was definitely a catacomb holding that back. 00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:45.119 But when he was talking about that, he was talking about how nowadays, if you don't go along with the current thing, you'll be excommunicated. 00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:52.480 Like he saw this new thing coming as a dictatorship, and he saw it as some kind of ape of the church. 00:41:52.639 --> 00:42:02.000 He wasn't talking about the church, though, he was talking about the secular world and saying how if you don't go along with the current thing, you'll be cut off and you'll be excommunicated. 00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:04.079 It's like the modern version of excommunication. 00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:08.000 Like Benedict really did have some deep insights into stuff like that. 00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:20.480 Um so, okay, so he did not appreciate the entire struggle in defense of orthodoxy waged by John Paul II and Benedict. 00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:37.440 He abolished the synod of bishops, which had been established by Paul VI towards the end of the Second Vatican Council as a sort of continuation miniature version of the council intended to provide the Pope with the count with counsel from the episcopate of the entire church through their elected representatives. 00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:42.159 This is a democratization of the church, essentially. 00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:52.480 Um the synod has been done away with, and in its place, something else has been created, what might be termed a demoh a democratic consultation of the entire people of God. 00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:56.880 Um D. 00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:00.800 How can people directly consult the entire people of God? 00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:07.599 Pope Francis said that a shepherd must have a feel for the scent of his sheep, but how can a pope in Rome possess this sense? 00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:17.280 It is the bishops who can truly sense the scent of their own sheep, and they in turn bring this insight to the Pope so that they may see what today's problems are and how to tackle them. 00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:26.400 By emphasizing the etymological meaning of the word synod, the synod on synodality has overlooked the historical reality of what synods actually are. 00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:31.599 The synod is, by definition, a matter of the bishops or for the bishops. 00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:37.360 Yeah, I mean, that is generally what a synod was historically in the church. 00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:40.960 Yeah, this holy synod, it was almost like synonymous with council. 00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:44.719 Yeah, it was just a local council of local bishops, yeah. 00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:46.159 Um, okay. 00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:49.679 The fact is that behind all this lay hidden agendas. 00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:56.639 After all these years of the synodal process, they have failed to get their hidden agendas, in fact, not so hidden, fulfilled. 00:43:56.960 --> 00:43:59.760 There was relentless manipulation and strict control of the process. 00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:05.679 Process, yet it was a failure, despite every effort to strike uh to stifle genuine discussion. 00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:11.280 The objectives that the Pope evidently entrusted to the Synod Secretariat were not achieved. 00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:25.920 Even within the limited time for free speech in the assembly, it was evident the synod members rejected those objectives, changing the hierarchical constitution of the church, ordaining women to the scroll up. 00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:39.599 Ordaining women to the priesthood, starting with the diet diaconate, the free choice of celibacy for the Roman clergy and the sexual morality radically updated under the LGBTQ banner. 00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:51.440 So, like he what he's saying here is even with these synods, the bishops came and they tried voicing their concerns, and it was a pre-planned agenda that was teamrolled through. 00:44:51.679 --> 00:45:10.800 So that they got phrases into the documents in the magisterial documents that you never had seen before, calling calling people gay, even had never been seen in a church document, you know, like even like

giving the the allowance to that identity. 00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:18.159 Um I just want to check something on uh where the heck is it? 00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:24.639 I gotta make sure I have this ready to go. 00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:34.480 Oh that's a good sorry guys, give me a sec. 00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:48.000 Um while you look up that, I'm gonna pop a knick-knack, which contains nicotine and maybe addict uh an addictive chemical, and that's definitely not why I'm popping a knick-knack right now. 00:45:48.239 --> 00:45:49.440 Did I forget to say hold that? 00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:50.960 I think so, yeah. 00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:55.840 Um shoot, why can't I? 00:45:57.119 --> 00:45:57.840 There we go. 00:45:58.000 --> 00:45:59.280 Okay, I got it. 00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:14.000 Okay, so uh as this attempt failed, the Pope then removed these controversial topics from the Sonata and handed them over to study groups, the formation criteria of which were unknown, and these groups were expected to report their conclusions directly to the Pope. 00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:34.079 Scroll up that the cause of homosexuals had been one of the hidden agendas was highlighted by the publication of the document Fiducia Supplicans, which approved the blessings of same-sex couples issued between two sessions of the ongoing synod without consulting the synod participants. 00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:40.239 One can say though, well, the homosexual agenda was in the closet until fiduciar supplicants. 00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:42.000 Not even that. 00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:45.039 We just haven't talked about any of this stuff in so long, right? 00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:53.840 It's it's like you know, you kind of forget how nuts it was under Francis. 00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:57.679 Man, the document threatened to cause a terrible breaking up of the church. 00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:07.039 Pope Francis and the Cardinal, and the Cardinal had to appease the public outcry with an attitude of condescending understanding, yet without any genuine retraction. 00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:08.880 That's accurate. 00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:09.840 Yeah. 00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:18.800 Um it's funny, it's it's very accurate because Francis cannot do a single thing without coming off as condescending. 00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:21.920 It is interesting how we how we couldn't, right? 00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:26.159 You know, it's maybe I have more in common with the man than I thought. 00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:31.679 Um no, nothing. 00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:34.880 Maybe you have more in common with the man than you thought. 00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:35.679 Is that what you said? 00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:36.719 Yeah. 00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:39.840 Um, hold on. 00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:53.440 I'm actually looking for um I'm looking for highlights from that book that I that I that I'm going to read that I thought might be relevant right here, but um, all right, whatever. 00:47:53.679 --> 00:48:05.519 Um, okay, so uh all right, so that yeah,

you you do you do probably temperament-wise have a lot in common with Francis. 00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:08.480 Probably temperament-wise, probably, yeah. 00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:20.639 Uh, that the cause of homosexuals particularly, particularly close to Francis' heart is evident in his special favor toward Father James Martin, SJ of Outreach, fan of the show, friend of the show. 00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:26.719 Uh Father James Martin, friend of the show, outreach, as well as his famous quote, Who Am I to judge? 00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:29.199 Uh, where is uh Father Martin tonight? 00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:30.079 Haven't seen him. 00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:32.800 You got a shout out in a Cardinal's Ed suite, and you're not here. 00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:33.360 You kidding me? 00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:34.800 Skojick is here. 00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:39.760 Someone was taking someone, I'm like, someone was taking him like, Why are you taking Skojick? 00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:41.039 Well, he's here. 00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:42.480 Oh, there he is. 00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:43.039 There you go. 00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:44.079 Hey, there he is. 00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:45.840 Friend of the show, Father James Martin. 00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:55.039 Uh, and recently something has happened which made us realize to our horror that the whole lengthy discourse on the Sonatal process is intended to provide a tool for justifying anything. 00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:56.960 You want to know what's funny, Steve's here? 00:48:57.119 --> 00:49:01.599 Steve can't help himself, he still has to check in on this crap. 00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:06.559 Well, you know, maybe he just likes watching us. 00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:08.400 No, he's a drug addict, dude. 00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:14.639 We can't I'm telling you, even when I stopped going to mass for those two years, I was constantly checking like stuff, like stuff like that. 00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:18.559 You just can't every time Francis would say something, I would just seethe. 00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:22.000 Even though I was like, I don't care about this stuff anymore, I'm not dealing with it. 00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:27.840 So even us, like we we've said we don't care what's going on in Rome, but Cardinals then pops off, and you just can't help yourself. 00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:28.400 You gotta read it. 00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:29.760 We could have tried. 00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:33.679 Um there were just no other good stories. 00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:39.039 Well, there wasn't much anything else, but I did want to I read this this morning, I was like, man, this whole the whole framing's off. 00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:47.519 But and recently something has happened which made us realize to our horror that the whole lengthy discourse on the sonatal process is intended to provide a tool for justifying anything. 00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:50.079 At the end of Section D, we mentioned study groups. 00:49:50.159 --> 00:50:03.920 Now, the final report on group nine has been published in which, assuming arbitrarily, that the Sonatal method is sacrosanct when it comes to the study of homosexuality, they reach the conclusion that the sexual act between a homosexual couple is a gift from God. 00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:08.880 Is this uh is this not blasphemy? 00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:11.840 It's a good question. 00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:13.280 Is it blasphemy? 00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:16.320 Yeah, right? 00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:20.719 Because like marriage is so intrinsically tied to the Trinity. 00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:32.320 Like Saint Paul uses marriage as the symbol for us to see as the union between Christ, the bridegroom, and the church. 00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:35.679 So it's definitely a version of blasphemy, that's for sure. 00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:39.760 Well, blasphemy just in the sense of something sacred, blaspheming something sacred. 00:50:39.840 --> 00:50:41.760 Like it doesn't have to be against God or something. 00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:47.199 Like you could blaspheme against the saints, you could blaspheme against anything because uh as they relate to God, yeah. 00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:47.679 100%. 00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:54.000 Um, they've reached the conclusion that the sexual act between a same-sex couple is a gift from God. 00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:55.599 Man, is this not blasphemy? 00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:59.199 It is incredible that such a thing could appear in a publication issued by the Holy See. 00:50:59.360 --> 00:50:59.920 I agree. 00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:01.599 Like enraging. 00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:04.159 It should scandalize everyone. 00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:07.920 Confusion has reigned for years, but now it has reached the bottom. 00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:12.000 The groups are supposed to limit the results of their study to the Pope. 00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:13.760 Now the Pope is Pope Leo. 00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:15.920 Did he see the report before its publication? 00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:17.199 And did he give his consent? 00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:17.920 Of course. 00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:19.360 Of course. 00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:20.880 All this stuff, like all this stuff. 00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:32.719 Like anybody that doesn't like the people that think I mean I hope nobody in our audience you guys know Leo is the same thing, right? 00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:34.079 It's the same thing. 00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:38.880 It's just it's it's Francis, just you know, a little a little more finesse. 00:51:39.360 --> 00:52:00.320 Uh everything, I guess the difference, and I guess I I guess it's a difference I feel more than anything, like there's no real evidence for, but like uh Francis felt like he was gonna shove it down your throat no matter what, right? 00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:12.400 Like he like he was an ideologue in the sense of like Lenin or Trotsky, you know. 00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:23.280 Uh whereas Leo feels more like he just thinks that's what Catholicism actually is, whereas Francis was gonna make Catholicism that no

matter what. 00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:28.320 Yeah, you know, so like I don't disagree that they're that in many ways they're largely similar. 00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:31.039 I just think there's maybe a lot more malice to Francis. 00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:34.559 Um I have a I have a priest friend. 00:52:34.719 --> 00:52:38.960 Uh he's never been on the show, uh, so it's not a priest that's been on this show. 00:52:39.039 --> 00:52:42.559 He's a he's a diocesan priest, not even a traditional priest. 00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:45.360 He um he is a traditional priest. 00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:46.159 I don't want to say that. 00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:49.199 He's he's he's he's a but he's a diocesan priest. 00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:58.159 He uh early on in Leo's papacy, he was telling me Leo is far more dangerous than Francis. 00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:09.599 And like this isn't some super trad SSPX priest, it's just a diocesan priest, and he's like, I'm telling you, Leo is far more dangerous than Francis was. 00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:32.960 And it's because Francis raised alarm bells, yeah, and everybody was like, Oh my goodness, but Leo is so much more subtle, but it's the same thing, it's it's it's it's the same thing we're always saying about like the conservative who's pushing feminism is where you know it's well what it's it's it's the it's the problem with the Republican Party, for instance, right? 00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:39.119 Like it's the fact that uh that they're the lesser evil, right? 00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:54.480 So it's it's a it's a far more insidious um evil that that like just leeches into it, you know, instead of instead of forcing it, it just slowly infects it. 00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:56.639 Um we knew this was gonna happen. 00:53:56.800 --> 00:54:00.480 Francis chose 80% of the cardinal electors, it was always going to happen. 00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:02.079 There really was never any doubt. 00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:08.639 Yeah, no, I I um it's look, the revolution continues, guys. 00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:11.519 It's not gonna it's not gonna get any better. 00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:18.000 Um so everything that happens in the church falls under the jurisdiction of the reigning pope. 00:54:18.239 --> 00:54:20.639 He could even cut short an ongoing ecumenical council. 00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:23.440 There's a saying, no pope rules from the grave. 00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:30.159 Um, so by the way, during the Jubilee year, there was that triumphal entry into St. 00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:36.239 Peter's, which was obviously a pride parade, a true desecration of the basilica, and yet no protest from the Holy See. 00:54:36.559 --> 00:54:42.800 The only protest from the Holy See is when the S Moran Pontifican pilgrimage comes through. 00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:44.400 F. 00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:49.599 It is said that the doctrine of the faith does not consist solely of sexual morality. 00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:50.639 This is true. 00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:55.280 The most important thing is the love of God, yet no one rejects God for no reason. 00:54:55.440 --> 00:55:00.800 Rather, it is always because one is drawn towards some other values, one ends up worshiping another false divinity. 00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:02.239 100%, yeah. 00:55:03.440 --> 00:55:04.079 Uh St. 00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:10.559 Paul in his letter to the Romans says that the most obvious sign of the rejection of God is precisely this sin of homosexuality. 00:55:11.519 --> 00:55:13.519 I mean, it goes against nature itself. 00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:37.760 In in Romans, in Romans, when Saint Paul describes what happens to a person who falls into sin, like the final thing is you're so like your like sin clouds the intellect so much so that you man exchanges natural love for a woman for a man. 00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:39.840 Like that's what and it's Romans 1. 00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:42.239 I mean, if you guys have never read Romans 1, go and read it. 00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:47.119 It's it's Paul just describes exactly what happens to the reprobate mind. 00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:48.719 Keep it up, let's keep going. 00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:56.239 Um, the enemies of God, the three enemies of our salvation are our passions, the world, and the devil. 00:55:56.639 --> 00:55:58.480 Sin, the flesh, and the devil, right? 00:55:59.199 --> 00:56:02.400 Uh, but where does the destruction of God and souls begin? 00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:05.119 Precisely with this deviation from sexual morality. 00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:11.920 For concupiscence lies within our flesh, and when indulged, it becomes an addiction, causing us to lose the power of the will. 00:56:12.159 --> 00:56:16.320 That is why even the devil says that the most important thing is to destroy the family. 00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:20.079 Moreover, it is not true that we insist solely on sexual morality. 00:56:20.159 --> 00:56:23.119 The question of the church's hierarchical structure is far more important. 00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:30.960 I want to say, like, a lot of almost everything he's saying here is 100% spot on, like, fully in agreement. 00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:42.000 My my biggest issue is how he was framing it like John Paul II and Benedict were stalwarts of orthodoxy, and then it all just kind of devolved under Francis and Leo. 00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:43.519 Well, and that's just not the case. 00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:56.159 I think if you here he he is putting sexual morality as like the almost like the central issue of of uh of our time, right? 00:56:56.480 --> 00:57:07.920 And if it well, and I agree with yeah, I agree with that, but if you think about it, those were issues that JP2 did fight oh he was very strongly, you know, very strongly. 00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:24.079 So so if if if Zen sees that uh as the central issue that he's worried about, and that Francis pushed very strongly in the opposite direction, then I can see why he sees JP2 as a stalwart of orthodoxy in that sense. 00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:38.159 Yeah,

look, John Paul II and Benedict both were very strong on this issue in terms of saying in terms of saying you can't even support civil unions as a Catholic. 00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:44.960 Like you can't you can't even support civil unions, where Francis comes in and he's like, Well, you know, I think we could have civil unions as a compromise. 00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:47.840 And even go up for communion if you want to. 00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:56.880 Yeah, yeah, that was the like some of the most destructive stuff Francis did was basically say, Hey, if you're immortal sin, go ahead and receive communion. 00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:01.920 Like the the level of sacrilege giving permission by the Pope is insane. 00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:07.519 So I do see why these guys see it as a rupture, you know. 00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:10.159 I do see why they think that this is a rupture. 00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:16.800 The the the thing is, even what John Paul II allowed for the divorce and remarried was wrong. 00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:19.119 Like realistically, right? 00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:26.400 So John Paul II allowed for couples who were divorced and remarried without an annulment. 00:58:26.559 --> 00:58:32.079 If you were living as brother and sister, you could then go up and receive communion. 00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:36.960 But really, no couple that's divorced and remarried is living as brother and sister. 00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:41.360 It's basically well, even if they are it's scandalous. 00:58:41.519 --> 00:58:43.840 If they haven't had an annulment, that's an invalid marriage. 00:58:44.000 --> 00:59:05.039 Like, like like me as a cradle Catholic, when I when I had my wedding, you know, to to my wife, my my first wedding, if if you want to call if you want to look at it that way, um, it was an invalid marriage, and that by itself would have, you know, stopped me from should have stopped me from going up to communion. 00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:12.239 Right, but what what I'm like it like you'd never have heard one of the preconciliar popes give that allowance, right? 00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:22.960 But it was JP2's way of showing mercy while keeping the church's teaching intact that you're like you're in an invalid marriage, you're living in adultery. 00:59:23.119 --> 00:59:31.199 But if you're living as brother and sister, you're not committing the sin of adultery because you're not sleeping together, then that's you know, that's that's the exception. 00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:44.079 So it was like the church could keep its teaching on marriage, the church could say you still can't, but you then start the annulment factory to make it even easier for people to retain or to attain those annulments. 00:59:44.320 --> 01:00:10.000 But in reality, it's it's wrong to even like if you're living, if you're divorced, never got an annulment, and remarried, and then have a conversion, like the idea of living with this new spouse or this new person, it's an adulterous relationship, it causes scandal, so it should not really be allowed, but it was a way for for John Paul to show mercy, you know, and it was also like a wink and a nudge. 01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:22.320 It's like, yeah, we know you guys are we know you guys are doing what you're doing behind the closed doors, but at least you know you could tell people it it's to it's to avoid scandal by you know, if you're going up and receiving, you just tell people they have a limited brother and sister, I guess. 01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:22.719 I don't know. 01:00:22.800 --> 01:00:24.320 That's just kind of my thought on it. 01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:29.760 But um, moreover, it is not true that we insist solely on sexual morality. 01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:31.199 Did I read that already? 01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:33.119 Uh uh no, you don't. 01:00:33.360 --> 01:00:37.119 The church, the question of the church's hierarchical structure is far more fundamental today. 01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:40.400 Jesus founded the church upon the apostles with Peter as their head. 01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:43.920 Now the church must be guided by the bishops with the Pope at their head. 01:00:44.239 --> 01:00:50.320 But the entire course of the recent synod on synodality ignores the importance of the bishops. 01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:57.679 It is no longer a true synod by emphasizing the etymological meaning of the word synodality as traveling together or participation. 01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:07.280 Significance of the historical reality of synods has been sidelined, synods and councils of bishops within the church and the synod presided over by the bishop within the diocese. 01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:10.639 What else we got? 01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:20.719 Uh uh with the conclusion of the second session of the synod, a final document was approved, which Pope Francis has incorporated into his own magisterium. 01:01:20.960 --> 01:01:26.880 He stated that it is not strictly normative, rather, each episcopal conference is to implement it experimentally. 01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:33.840 Like, this is all stuff that is so foreign to the nature of the church and the church's real ecclesiology. 01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:35.840 Like, all this stuff is bizarre. 01:01:36.159 --> 01:01:45.199 Uh, each each conference should implement it experimentally in the matter deemed most appropriate for its own local culture, but in this way, we will end up resembling the Anglicans. 01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:47.920 No offense intended towards the Anglicans, but we are different. 01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:56.880 Like you could you saw not even that, even when they tried to have these local synodal meetings, like there was no interest in it. 01:01:56.960 --> 01:01:57.920 Nobody cares about this. 01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:00.480 It's something coming down from the top. 01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:05.199 This it's very similar to the Reformation in England. 01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:10.320 It wasn't some grassroots reformation, it was lorded on from on top. 01:02:10.480

--> 01:02:13.840 They took away people's traditions, they took away their culture, they took away everything. 01:02:14.239 --> 01:02:23.440 And then they killed 750 Catholics a year because they force fed this new thing down their throats, and it took generations before it stuck. 01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:25.760 The world is in a state of great confusion. 01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:41.599 I was not present at the recent consistory in June, but I noted from the press that during the discussion on the question in what kind of world are we to carry out our mission today, many cardinals remarked that the fundamental problem is the loss of meaning, which is why an ever-increasing number of young people are taking their own lives. 01:02:41.920 --> 01:02:54.320 We possess the solid doctrine that gives I I watched Anthony Stein read that this morning, and he's like, He's like, which is why an ever increasing number of young people leave this mortal coil. 01:02:54.400 --> 01:03:00.880 Like, why not just why not just say people think it's it's not 2020 anymore. 01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:03.760 Yeah, he's still acting like it's 2020. 01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:10.639 Like we I I make joke about we make jokes about the Jews all the time, and it doesn't matter anymore, man. 01:03:10.880 --> 01:03:14.800 If our channel isn't restricted, I promise you, man, you can say people taking their own lives. 01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:16.159 And you know what? 01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:18.800 And when you say it, you're not going to be shadow banned. 01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:21.599 If you think you're shadow banned, people just are watching your show. 01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:23.119 Like, come on. 01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:26.159 We possess the solid doctrine that gives meaning to life. 01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:28.960 For we know that God created us for eternal life. 01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:37.840 This truth resides within the Catholic Church, but only if people only if the Catholic Church remains faithful to the entirety of the doctrine handed down from the apostles. 01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:42.400 Um he go, he gets into look how long is this thing? 01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:43.440 This is like a book. 01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:46.159 Uh when you say hold on, hold on. 01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:46.960 Hold on. 01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:48.000 Do you see on the far right? 01:03:48.079 --> 01:03:48.639 Do you hold on? 01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:49.760 Do you see my mouse? 01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:51.199 See this right here? 01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:53.199 No, we're not going through the whole thing, guys. 01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:53.679 I'm sorry. 01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:56.000 It's just been in over an hour already. 01:03:56.239 --> 01:03:57.760 Yeah, we're not going through this whole thing. 01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:01.519 So um he ends up going into like talking about Fernandez and stuff. 01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:04.400 What is all the fuss about Fernandez and Buenos Aires? 01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:06.079 Is that where they are?

01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:07.280 Is that where Leo is right now? 01:04:07.440 --> 01:04:08.400 Buenos Aires? 01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:09.440 Argentina. 01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:19.360 No, no, he's he he was in uh not um he was in a uh one of them to the west of that, not Argentina. 01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:22.480 South American countries, Paraguay, Ecuador, Peru. 01:04:22.639 --> 01:04:22.880 I don't know. 01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:25.199 Paraguay's in mayhem right now. 01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:25.679 I don't know. 01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:26.320 He's down there. 01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:31.039 You know what you know the political situation of Paraguay? 01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:32.960 They just had the banking system collapse. 01:04:33.679 --> 01:04:34.559 Was it Paraguay? 01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:35.679 Yeah, that was Paraguay. 01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:37.519 They're like losing their crap over there. 01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:40.800 Peru or Uruguay? 01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:41.920 I don't know, whatever. 01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:43.920 He's down somewhere. 01:04:44.960 --> 01:04:48.159 He's down somewhere down there where they speak Mexican. 01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:50.719 Um what you know. 01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:56.159 I wish he had been in Brazil because then it would have been funny, because then it would be Portuguese, but whatever. 01:04:56.400 --> 01:05:00.480 Uh, what is the what is all the protests about Tuco down there? 01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:05.440 Well, so didn't some I just saw a tweet today. 01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:08.639 Uh some former, yeah, it did shock me. 01:05:10.719 --> 01:05:27.440 Some the archbishop, and maybe it was the arch uh bishop of the same archdiocese Francis has been bishop had was archbishop of, but some archbishop just just died, and some people were thinking it was in suspicious circumstances. 01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:28.320 From Tuco? 01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:29.840 Tuco pulled a hit. 01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:31.119 No, I don't know, but I don't know. 01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:31.840 I have no idea. 01:05:32.079 --> 01:05:36.079 Are we back to like are we back to uh Borgia days? 01:05:36.159 --> 01:05:37.360 That would be awesome. 01:05:40.239 --> 01:05:43.199 Then he says, Mexican. 01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:45.760 Yeah, for a second, I was like, Are you sure you're at? 01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:48.000 That's like, oh yeah, no, that's definitely ant. 01:05:48.639 --> 01:05:49.280 All right. 01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:52.400 Well, look, things are a mess. 01:05:52.480 --> 01:05:55.199 We remain in the church, we remain steadfast Catholics. 01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:56.719 We love being Catholic. 01:05:56.960 --> 01:05:58.719 This is a great time to be Catholic, guys. 01:05:58.800 --> 01:05:59.599 Look at all this fun. 01:06:00.239 --> 01:08:32.560 stuff we get to discuss so we're gonna go over the locals we got a bunch of stuff to do with locals i have the so i'm gonna play uh i'm gonna play just a normal outro here on youtube but then before we start on locals on

locals i have a special intro i made that i can't play here because it will be copyrighted but i i just and yes this this is a shot at taffy taffy i want you to recognize that okay uh before we go uh we are going to be talking about the the Fred situation oh wait real quick put that put that uh I put a screenshot of the Poplio tweet up put that up real quick hold on which before we go to the other side because this is something I want to talk about like do you want up Poplio put up two tweets one to mothers and grandmothers and one to fathers and grandfathers and just look look at the sissification of how look at the kid gloves women get treated with versus how men get treated right mothers and grandmothers never tire of passing on the faith preach with your lives as well as with your words insist on prayer love and hope do so with patience without discouragement even if your loved ones seem far from God continue to place them before him there are doors that you cannot open but God can men I would like also to address the fathers and grandfathers young people need to say uh need to see that you pray receive the sacraments treat your wives with respect ask for forgiveness and live with integrity even when doing so requires sacrifice children learn a great deal by seeing their dad that their father can kneel before God without feeling he is any less of a man for doing it why aren't why doesn't he tell wives respect your husbands wives obey your husbands you know like like either one on its own oops either one on its own completely fine obviously but yeah the the the that the dichotomy there especially by putting one as a reply to the other it's like it in uh you know maybe maybe the social situation in Uruguay is is different from it is here but look you could read that charitably I'm just tired of the kid gloves for women women are not held to any account I was speaking with a friend right before the show and uh I was just saying how like women can do the most evil thing and including strangle them with exercise bands. 01:08:32.720 --> 01:08:35.359 And we look to and we look to like normalize it. 01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:42.399 No like literally rob a man of his entire family in life and it's just like you go girl. 01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:50.560 You just did the most you're a homicidal maniac in that sense you rob the man of everything and you get a you get praise for it. 01:08:50.800 --> 01:09:22.239 It's just insane how women are just not held to any account by any of the men ever we could talk we could talk Megan Kelly on the other side trash bag um so yeah we're gonna talk about Fred on the other side uh we're gonna for those of you who don't know who Fred is you'll think maybe maybe we'll tell you on the other side no we're gonna get into Fred on the other side um but also I had other stuff too uh oh we'll talk about the St. 01:09:22.399 --> 01:09:42.479 Nicholas relics being stolen and burned um and we could have done three hours on YouTube tonight because you also have uh in Portland Oregon Archbishop Stample is banning the Iran's position which is hilarious I love to see it the Iran's position is actually an organic development of the novice order. 01:09:43.039 --> 01:11:02.640 It is yeah I bet Fred loves it some of the charismatic ways you know he you know he does some hand raising Fred loves when the girls put their hands over him and pray over him oh man um all right we are going to go to the other side and then there's uh man that one tweet the guy wrote uh I got it we'll do it on the other side but uh yeah so uh for those of you who want to see the intro I can't play here come over to locals and even if you're not a paid supporter you'll be able to see at least that much on locals before we turn it over to money um yeah you can give again if you want to sign up for the free version of locals before we put it behind the ad wall if you want to see the if you want to see the video Rob will leave it up and we won't put the paywall up until after the video's done so if you're not a locals member go sign up for the free version and while you're there stop being cheap just throw five bucks up are you kidding me you people it's still five dollars you have one month left to get the five dollar version January 1st rate to go about you know if we're gonna be accused of grifting and have people email our sponsors we might as well up the price a little moving up listen to me I see what other people are charging and we're worth way more than them that's all I'll have to say about that. 01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:04.880 So all right we're going to the other side take us out Rob