iPhone Duo Apps, Volume One의 전체 녹취록

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And we've also been doing that for 11 years. 00:04:18.376 --> 00:04:20.456 So it's been a long time. 00:04:20.616 --> 00:04:23.196 And the final thing before we actually get into the apps, 00:04:23.196 --> 00:04:28.316 you will notice if you're listening to this on Apple Podcasts or in Pocket Casts, 00:04:28.316 --> 00:04:32.856 you will notice that we now have proper support for HLS video, 00:04:33.136 --> 00:04:36.396 which means that whenever you want, 00:04:36.576 --> 00:04:42.576 you can either listen to this episode or you can instantly switch 00:04:42.576 --> 00:04:45.776 to the video version and you will keep your playback position. 00:04:45.776 --> 00:04:48.776 And you can switch back and forth between them at any point. 00:04:48.956 --> 00:04:52.006 And if you're listening to the video and you lock your device, 00:04:52.216 --> 00:04:54.176 the audio will continue playing in the background. 00:04:54.176 --> 00:04:56.926 This is something that we started working on months ago, 00:04:56.936 --> 00:05:02.936 and it required a pretty big transition on our end for all the podcasts that we have. 00:05:03.796 --> 00:05:07.436 But I'm so happy that it's finally available in Apple Podcasts, 00:05:07.476 --> 00:05:08.516 in Pocket Casts. 00:05:08.716 --> 00:05:13.316 I don't know what other compatible clients exist out there with HLS support. 00:05:13.596 --> 00:05:16.096 But yeah, this is now something that you can do in the App Store. 00:05:16.096 --> 00:05:20.996 Yeah, and shout out to Transistor.fm because they have been really easy to work 00:05:20.996 --> 00:05:24.816 with and they made the transition really easy on kind of the hosting side of 00:05:24.816 --> 00:05:26.996 things. And with Apple Podcasts, at least, 00:05:27.156 --> 00:05:31.176 it couldn't be easier because all you have to do is tap a little button that's right 00:05:31.176 --> 00:05:34.476 above the playback controls and you can switch back and forth real time. 00:05:34.476 --> 00:05:39.156 And this also allows the video on Apple Podcasts to appear on the Apple TV for the 00:05:39.156 --> 00:05:41.336 first time. want to watch us in the living room, 00:05:41.336 --> 00:05:42.256 you can do that. 00:05:42.256 --> 00:05:44.936 Who wouldn't want to, Federico? Who wouldn't 00:05:44.936 --> 00:05:48.786 want to? Obviously. All right. All right. So let's talk about iPhone Duo apps. 00:05:48.876 --> 00:05:50.226 Where do you want to start? 00:05:50.256 --> 00:05:54.516 I did a collection this week about weird and wonderful apps. 00:05:54.656 --> 00:05:59.636 And I want to kind of hit some of those because I think one of the things that has 00:05:59.636 --> 00:06:01.786 stood out to me, there's a couple of things. 00:06:01.936 --> 00:06:03.496 And in a subsequent episode, 00:06:03.496 --> 00:06:07.176 we'll talk about kind of what I call the new skeuomorphs, 00:06:07.256 --> 00:06:11.236 which are this new trend in design towards skeuomorphic design. 00:06:12.456 --> 00:06:18.016 We've also seen a lot of whimsical and fun and just weird apps out there that are 00:06:18.016 --> 00:06:22.036 coming out for the Duo that are really taking advantage of its unique shape. 00:06:22.036 --> 00:06:26.516 The hardware, the hinge, the new way the sensors work with the hinge, 00:06:26.676 --> 00:06:29.576 that sort of thing. And so I wanted to hit those first. 00:06:29.876 --> 00:06:33.436 And one of the ones that I find the most fun and interesting, 00:06:33.636 --> 00:06:37.656 but also kind of hard, difficult to get the hang of is Duo box, 00:06:37.896 --> 00:06:39.696 which is an accordion. 00:06:39.696 --> 00:06:41.176 Just like, you know, 00:06:41.276 --> 00:06:46.616 an accordion that you would squeeze and it has keys on one side and buttons on the 00:06:46.616 --> 00:06:51.736 other for the chords. And that's what this is. I mean, you hold down a chord. 00:06:51.916 --> 00:06:53.816 You pick a chord on one side of the screen. 00:06:53.816 --> 00:06:59.336 You start playing the keys and you start folding the iPhone Duo 00:06:59.336 --> 00:07:00.656 and it plays music. 00:07:00.856 --> 00:07:02.056 Duo box, you 00:07:02.056 --> 00:07:03.716 said. Yeah, it's got a lot. 00:07:03.816 --> 00:07:08.436 It's a pretty deep app because it has like play along songs that help guide you 00:07:08.436 --> 00:07:11.596 through the keys to play like twinkle, twinkle, little star. 00:07:11.836 --> 00:07:14.096 It has effects that you can add. 00:07:14.276 --> 00:07:19.376 You can actually output to like a MIDI device or MIDI compatible app. 00:07:19.676 --> 00:07:20.543 I'm to do it, John. Okay, I'm going to 00:07:20.542 --> 00:07:21.376 do it. 00:07:21.376 --> 00:07:24.256 Okay. I want to see you do this. It takes. 00:07:24.916 --> 00:07:29.056 Oh, wow. This thing like, so it actually looks like an accordion. 00:07:29.216 --> 00:07:30.676 I'm showing it off on the video. 00:07:30.676 --> 00:07:31.510 Yeah. 00:07:31.596 --> 00:07:35.156 Okay. So how do I do the Titanic song? 00:07:35.476 --> 00:07:37.176 Oh, good luck. Good luck 00:07:37.176 --> 00:07:38.016 with Gideon. 00:07:38.276 --> 00:07:39.796 So it's A. 00:07:42.856 --> 00:07:44.556 Oh, I have no idea how to do this. 00:07:44.896 --> 00:07:46.656 Yeah. That's 00:07:46.656 --> 00:07:51.096 what I mean by it. It takes a little work to get the hang of, 00:07:51.196 --> 00:07:52.816 but it's fun once you do it. 00:07:54.256 --> 00:07:56.716 Showbox. Can I hit you? Can I hit you? 00:07:56.816 --> 00:08:01.016 Because I've also been going, I mean, we have more than 600. 00:08:01.436 --> 00:08:03.756 We have a Notion database with 600 apps. 00:08:03.976 --> 00:08:07.216 I don't think we've talked about, and me and you, we coordinate behind the scenes. 00:08:07.216 --> 00:08:10.856 I don't think I've told you about this one. Have you seen Hinge

Caliper? 00:08:11.716 --> 00:08:13.496 Oh, I think I have. I have this on 00:08:13.496 --> 00:08:16.096 my list too. actually a caliper. Yes. 00:08:16.096 --> 00:08:17.036 I've seen two or three apps 00:08:17.036 --> 00:08:18.396 I don't know if you can pick it up, 00:08:18.396 --> 00:08:21.656 but so I'm going to try and get closer to the camera. 00:08:21.656 --> 00:08:24.896 So the iPhone Duo has sensors, right? 00:08:25.136 --> 00:08:27.476 Yeah. To detect the angle. 00:08:28.016 --> 00:08:32.956 And when you fold it, the numbers move. 00:08:33.376 --> 00:08:38.556 You can see the angle is moving. Yeah. And so I don't know who's actually going. 00:08:38.656 --> 00:08:40.756 Like, what is the exact scenario? 00:08:40.776 --> 00:08:44.796 You're a carpenter and you find yourself in need 00:08:44.796 --> 00:08:45.746 Wanting to measure. 00:08:45.836 --> 00:08:48.943 Wanting to measure because you forgot your caliper at home. 00:08:48.942 --> 00:08:49.776 So you're going 00:08:49.776 --> 00:08:51.196 to use your $2,000 phone 00:08:51.196 --> 00:08:53.816 instead. But you have your iPhone Duo? 00:08:54.916 --> 00:08:57.216 Yeah. It's pretty cool though, I think. I mean. 00:08:57.256 --> 00:08:58.106 It's pretty cool. 00:08:58.316 --> 00:09:02.136 Let me hit you one that's related to that called Duometry. 00:09:02.982 --> 00:09:03.816 Duometry. 00:09:03.816 --> 00:09:06.216 Duometry is the angle thing you're talking about, 00:09:06.336 --> 00:09:10.316 but it's a game where it tells you an angle and you have to try to match it as 00:09:10.316 --> 00:09:14.356 closely as you can with your phone and you score based 00:09:14.356 --> 00:09:17.816 on. Oh, I love this. This is, oh, by Arno. 00:09:19.076 --> 00:09:21.136 I love this to Arno Appenzeller. Yeah, yeah. 00:09:21.136 --> 00:09:24.736 We know this is the better part. We've covered apps by Arno before. 00:09:24.956 --> 00:09:29.616 And this is, it's just kind of fun. can do a daily challenge. You can play with 00:09:29.616 --> 00:09:32.356 other people. Yeah. So this is how it's going to go 00:09:32.356 --> 00:09:33.683 with these episodes. We're just going to download 00:09:33.682 --> 00:09:34.516 a bunch of apps. 00:09:34.516 --> 00:09:38.716 This is, this is one of those apps that I think if you're kind of a, 00:09:38.716 --> 00:09:42.216 a perfectionist, like a certain Italian guy I know, 00:09:42.396 --> 00:09:45.596 that you will get hooked on this very quickly because you'll want to be the guy 00:09:45.596 --> 00:09:47.996 who can hit it every time. It's very 00:09:47.996 --> 00:09:51.036 hard. I should not show this app to Silvia. 00:09:51.196 --> 00:09:52.376 Oh, is this a Silvia 00:09:52.376 --> 00:09:54.056 Okay. Match 45 degrees. 00:09:55.396 --> 00:09:56.296 Did you get it? 00:09:57.596 --> 00:09:59.036 Touch and hold to lock in. 00:10:01.436 --> 00:10:03.276 Oh, one degree off. 00:10:03.496 --> 00:10:04.616 Oh, very good. 00:10:04.756 --> 00:10:05.590 Okay. 00:10:05.616 --> 00:10:06.450 45 is 00:10:06.449 --> 00:10:08.076 pretty, try it. Wait till it gets you to say 00:10:08.076 --> 00:10:11.176 something like 82 or something and see it, you know. 00:10:11.796 --> 00:10:12.630 80. Yeah. Okay. 00:10:12.736 --> 00:10:14.416 Right. I mean, it'll get you one that's like 00:10:14.416 --> 00:10:16.636 a weird number that isn't obvious. Like. 00:10:17.096 --> 00:10:19.516 Okay. I'm going to hit you with another game, John. Okay. 00:10:19.516 --> 00:10:22.666 That also uses the hinge. I don't know if you've tried this one. 00:10:22.916 --> 00:10:26.976 It's called, let me, let me remember. Safecracker. 00:10:27.356 --> 00:10:29.416 Oh, I haven't tried this. I remember. So 00:10:29.416 --> 00:10:34.996 one lets you crack a safe by using the hinge and feeling the haptic 00:10:34.996 --> 00:10:40.456 feedback. Okay. So. I'm terrible at this. Okay. 00:10:42.256 --> 00:10:45.476 Now I'm feeling some haptic taps. Right. 00:10:45.476 --> 00:10:48.296 And when they get more close to each other and more frequent, 00:10:48.296 --> 00:10:51.996 that's like the first step of the combination. Like you're cracking a safe. 00:10:52.216 --> 00:10:54.596 Right. So. 00:10:54.596 --> 00:10:56.423 And that's where you need to stop and start going the 00:10:56.422 --> 00:10:57.256 other direction. 00:10:57.256 --> 00:10:58.496 I probably need to stop here. 00:10:58.496 --> 00:10:59.330 Yeah. 00:10:59.336 --> 00:11:00.636 Yeah. So this is how it works. 00:11:00.636 --> 00:11:03.336 And you get three rounds and if you get it, 00:11:03.476 --> 00:11:06.126 you can crack the safe and you continue with the game. 00:11:06.376 --> 00:11:09.816 So these are some fun games. I should probably mention some. 00:11:09.976 --> 00:11:11.976 I've also done a roundup on MacStories. 00:11:13.176 --> 00:11:15.363 I'm doing, since I'm the boring old guy here. John is 00:11:15.362 --> 00:11:16.196 doing all 00:11:16.196 --> 00:11:17.856 the games and I'm doing the productivity 00:11:17.856 --> 00:11:19.583 apps. Okay. 00:11:19.582 --> 00:11:20.416 All he does is 00:11:20.416 --> 00:11:21.250 work. 00:11:21.249 --> 00:11:26.136 All I do is work. Not true. Not true. I do play. 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This is an embarrassment of riches over here. It is. 00:13:37.236 --> 00:13:42.936 I want to... Okay. I will start from the obvious. I will mention T3 Code. 00:13:43.256 --> 00:13:46.656 Okay. So if you are working... 00:13:46.656 --> 00:13:49.556 So T3 Code is this new type of 00:13:49.556 --> 00:13:52.383 agentic development environment. the 00:13:52.382 --> 00:13:53.216 sense that... 00:13:53.216 --> 00:13:56.283 ADE. It's not an IDE. It's an ADE. 00:13:56.282 --> 00:13:57.116 Yeah. 00:13:57.116 --> 00:13:59.616 So it's an app that you use with coding agents. 00:13:59.976 --> 00:14:05.936 What sets it apart is that it's open source and it's made by a 00:14:05.936 --> 00:14:11.576 team of people who obsess over performance and design and integration 00:14:11.576 --> 00:14:13.376 with all kinds of providers. 00:14:13.516 --> 00:14:16.856 So you can use T3 Code with your Claude subscription, 00:14:17.176 --> 00:14:20.496 with your Codex subscription. It's not a harness. 00:14:21.176 --> 00:14:27.136 It's using the actual official harnesses for Claude Code and Codex on 00:14:27.136 --> 00:14:31.516 your machine. T3 Code is just the environment and the orchestrator. 00:14:32.096 --> 00:14:37.396 You set it up on your Mac. You enable remote access. You can use Tailscale. 00:14:37.616 --> 00:14:38.816 You can use SSH. 00:14:39.056 --> 00:14:42.536 You can use T3 Connect, which is a built-in service that they have. 00:14:43.456 --> 00:14:46.556 And then you connect from your iPhone on your iPad. 00:14:47.396 --> 00:14:52.443 And the app has the best remote experience that I've ever... That I've seen so 00:14:52.442 --> 00:14:53.276 far. Easily 00:14:53.276 --> 00:14:54.110 the best. 00:14:54.109 --> 00:14:55.276 Easily the It's so fast. 00:14:55.276 --> 00:14:58.916 It's reliable. It's the big companies that are making this. You know, OpenAI. 00:14:58.916 --> 00:15:03.796 And in general, I would say the T3 Code is better than Codex desktop and it's better 00:15:03.796 --> 00:15:04.876 than Claude desktop. 00:15:05.256 --> 00:15:07.316 Yeah. You won't get lost. 00:15:07.456 --> 00:15:11.056 Your projects won't get lost the way they do in the sidebar of Codex or 00:15:11.056 --> 00:15:13.676 Claude. They have so many little touches. 00:15:13.676 --> 00:15:17.316 Like when you want to add a folder, it asks you like, 00:15:17.396 --> 00:15:19.756 do you want to add a new folder? Do you want to pick an existing project? 00:15:19.756 --> 00:15:22.736 Is the folder on your local machine or is the folder remote? 00:15:23.336 --> 00:15:27.096 There's keyboard shortcuts for everything. You can mark specific models as favorites. 00:15:27.096 --> 00:15:32.236 You can hide specific models. You can have multiple accounts for the same provider. 00:15:32.856 --> 00:15:33.736 Multiple Macs. 00:15:33.956 --> 00:15:38.676 Multiple Macs all talking to each other, all orchestrating within one another. 00:15:38.836 --> 00:15:40.116 That's what I'm doing, boy. 00:15:40.116 --> 00:15:42.656 Yeah. And the app is excellent on the Duo. 00:15:42.682 --> 00:15:43.516 Yeah. It's 00:15:43.516 --> 00:15:44.350 it's 00:15:44.349 --> 00:15:47.100 got this sidebar over here, your main conversation here. 00:15:47.116 --> 00:15:51.776 And if you have sub-agents going, like for example, if I find a sub-agent here, 00:15:51.976 --> 00:15:55.003 it opens in another split view on the iPhone Duo. 00:15:55.002 --> 00:15:55.836 Right. 00:15:55.836 --> 00:15:58.276 So I'm going to enable dark mode because maybe it's easier 00:15:58.276 --> 00:15:59.256 to Yeah, it'll be easier to see. Oh, 00:15:59.256 --> 00:16:00.090 that's easier 00:16:00.089 --> 00:16:00.923 to see. Yeah. 00:16:00.922 --> 00:16:03.916 So you open another sidebar. This

is the main thread and this is the sub-agent. 00:16:03.916 --> 00:16:09.796 So it becomes this superpower to have T3 Code on my phone and I can 00:16:09.796 --> 00:16:13.646 quickly check with the screen closed, be like, okay, what are my agents doing? 00:16:13.696 --> 00:16:16.676 All right, let me see. But then if I want to switch between threads, 00:16:16.676 --> 00:16:18.936 I can just open the Duo. There's a sidebar. 00:16:19.056 --> 00:16:20.336 And it's going to go boom, boom, boom. 00:16:20.336 --> 00:16:23.836 I'm going to open all the different threads and I'm going to work on all the 00:16:23.836 --> 00:16:27.136 things that we're working on. It's so well done. You 00:16:27.136 --> 00:16:30.676 can snooze your threads so you can kind of clean up the sidebar to just the things 00:16:30.676 --> 00:16:31.776 that are active right now. 00:16:31.776 --> 00:16:36.456 You can drag threads one to the other so threads are aware of what's going on in 00:16:36.456 --> 00:16:39.476 other threads. Threads can spawn their own threads. 00:16:39.756 --> 00:16:42.116 There's load balancing between Macs, 00:16:42.176 --> 00:16:47.336 which is one of the things that I love because I can be prompting from the 00:16:47.336 --> 00:16:49.756 computer that I'm working on for my day-to-day work, 00:16:49.756 --> 00:16:53.856 but the work's happening on another Mac. It's really, really well thought through. 00:16:54.396 --> 00:16:58.016 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. What's next on your list? 00:16:58.196 --> 00:17:01.076 All right. I want to get one for when you're a little stressed out because 00:17:01.076 --> 00:17:04.216 you've been working a little too hard on your projects. 00:17:04.216 --> 00:17:10.076 I want to talk about Ajar, which is, I guess it's a soundscape app. 00:17:10.196 --> 00:17:14.736 You know, like the apps that have rain noises or forest noises or white noise or 00:17:14.736 --> 00:17:19.816 whatever. It's that, but it's a window into another world. 00:17:19.816 --> 00:17:24.496 And the default view is like a street of picturing of, uh, 00:17:24.796 --> 00:17:28.156 with a view of row houses and cars occasionally going by. 00:17:28.336 --> 00:17:33.456 It reminds me of looking out onto like a street in England or Ireland or something. 00:17:33.876 --> 00:17:37.956 And it's raining and the windows open and you can hear the rain. 00:17:37.956 --> 00:17:39.916 So it's just that kind of soothing noise. 00:17:39.916 --> 00:17:43.936 And you can put the window up and down by tapping it. 00:17:43.936 --> 00:17:47.276 If you put your duo in landscape mode, 00:17:47.276 --> 00:17:51.096 it will show the window at the top and on the bottom, 00:17:51.196 --> 00:17:54.196 there'll be a little desk with a coffee and a book and a pen. 00:17:54.376 --> 00:17:57.756 Uh, and you can switch, just swipe between different scenes. 00:17:57.756 --> 00:18:02.616 There's like a Japanese garden. There's a view outside of a train that

you're on. 00:18:02.796 --> 00:18:05.476 There's a view outside the window of an airplane, 00:18:05.476 --> 00:18:09.976 all sorts of different environments on like a snowy, like a snowy countryside, 00:18:09.976 --> 00:18:11.296 that sort of thing. 00:18:11.416 --> 00:18:15.416 And it's just kind of a nice fun fidget toy in a way, 00:18:15.456 --> 00:18:19.476 but also combined with a soundscape that is very kind of quiet and soothing. 00:18:19.476 --> 00:18:24.396 And you could just like set up your, your little environment in laptop mode, 00:18:24.496 --> 00:18:27.696 put it on your desk and listen to the rain come down as you work. 00:18:27.756 --> 00:18:29.156 Nice. Nice. All right. 00:18:29.516 --> 00:18:35.396 I want to mention something that I love using with the Apple Pencil on the iPhone 00:18:35.396 --> 00:18:37.736 Duo, which is the new app by Marco Arment, 00:18:38.036 --> 00:18:39.556 Fineliner. Very good. 00:18:39.736 --> 00:18:44.583 So this is a sketching app for the iPhone Duo here, John. wrote ciao, John on 00:18:44.582 --> 00:18:45.416 my screen. 00:18:45.416 --> 00:18:48.016 Very nice. Well done. I'm sure Marco will be pleased. 00:18:48.276 --> 00:18:49.883 Beautiful handwriting on my 00:18:49.882 --> 00:18:50.716 end. It's 00:18:50.716 --> 00:18:54.076 very good. That's not Marco's fault. It's just that part's Ticci's fault. 00:18:54.076 --> 00:18:55.743 Yep. Yep. Look, what's not to love? 00:18:55.742 --> 00:18:56.576 Okay. No, 00:18:56.576 --> 00:18:57.410 that's good. 00:18:57.756 --> 00:19:01.416 It's fonts. Okay. And here's what I love about Fineliner. 00:19:01.636 --> 00:19:04.096 When you set it up the first time, I don't know if you've ever, 00:19:04.096 --> 00:19:05.856 if you've played with it at all, John. 00:19:05.856 --> 00:19:07.656 A little bit. When you set it up, 00:19:07.856 --> 00:19:11.216 you can actually draw the UI 00:19:11.216 --> 00:19:14.563 elements of the app yourself. Oh, 00:19:14.562 --> 00:19:15.396 that's cool. 00:19:15.396 --> 00:19:18.956 The app asks you, do you want to draw the back button? 00:19:19.156 --> 00:19:21.456 Do you want to draw the font icon? 00:19:21.936 --> 00:19:27.636 Like, so it almost reminds me of a Nintendo game as an onboarding 00:19:27.636 --> 00:19:30.576 process. Like the app is teaching you 00:19:30.576 --> 00:19:33.956 about the app by using the app itself. 00:19:34.196 --> 00:19:35.996 Yeah. Like, and so you can 00:19:35.996 --> 00:19:36.830 practice. 00:19:37.076 --> 00:19:41.876 It's really clever. And then of course, if the icons that you draw suck, like mine, 00:19:42.096 --> 00:19:44.856 you can just say, draw them for me, please. 00:19:44.996 --> 00:19:46.336 Fix it for me, please, Marco. 00:19:46.336 --> 00:19:47.736 Fix it for me. But yeah, 00:19:47.736 --> 00:19:52.516 I love it because you can create multiple notebooks like this and you can have all 00:19:52.516 --> 00:19:56.516 your pages and like, I'm not a, I'm

not a handwriting person, 00:19:56.516 --> 00:20:00.236 but there's something about like having an iPhone Duo like this, 00:20:00.316 --> 00:20:03.836 having an Apple Pencil and sketching with the Apple Pencil, like a little notebook. 00:20:03.836 --> 00:20:09.056 So yeah, I think, and also like, it's just fun to see Marco, you know, 00:20:09.216 --> 00:20:10.816 experiment outside of Overcast. 00:20:11.256 --> 00:20:13.206 Yeah, I agree. I agree. It's a fun app. 00:20:13.756 --> 00:20:16.406 Let me, since we're talking about notebooks, Federico, 00:20:16.416 --> 00:20:18.796 let me talk about TypeDraw. Have you tried TypeDraw? 00:20:18.796 --> 00:20:21.896 Oh, I, I, I haven't, but I know that it's pretty popular. 00:20:22.356 --> 00:20:24.816 is pretty popular and it is quite well done. 00:20:24.816 --> 00:20:29.676 If you open it up, it is just like, if you can look on the camera, it is, 00:20:29.816 --> 00:20:31.076 it's a notebook, right? 00:20:31.256 --> 00:20:35.136 And so you can use this to type, obviously, or, 00:20:35.336 --> 00:20:37.536 and it has a nice kind of handwritten font, 00:20:37.536 --> 00:20:42.476 or you can use the Apple Pencil since the duo supports the Apple Pencil. 00:20:42.676 --> 00:20:46.896 You can attach photos to your stuff. 00:20:46.996 --> 00:20:51.556 It has the full support of Apple Pencil, as I mentioned. This 00:20:51.556 --> 00:20:52.836 looks nice. Looking now. 00:20:53.076 --> 00:20:55.176 Yeah. Like here's, here, I'll show you the, 00:20:55.196 --> 00:20:59.316 this is kind of the intro screen that they give you with the instructions. 00:20:59.316 --> 00:21:05.116 That gives you people a sense of the font that's being used there. It's nice. 00:21:05.136 --> 00:21:06.236 It's really well done. 00:21:06.296 --> 00:21:10.236 And when you shut the, you shut the device, it says TypeDraw. 00:21:10.376 --> 00:21:13.456 It looks like a closed notebook. It's got my name on there, which I added. 00:21:13.456 --> 00:21:17.176 And you can look at the animation. You can even kind of move this. 00:21:17.256 --> 00:21:18.896 Oh, I love like the little. 00:21:18.896 --> 00:21:22.216 You can move the little rubber band that like you would have on some notebooks. 00:21:22.216 --> 00:21:24.476 And when you do that, there's haptic feedback too. 00:21:24.476 --> 00:21:26.056 I was going to ask about that. That's perfect. 00:21:26.056 --> 00:21:29.696 Yeah. It's super well thought through. All that stuff works really well. 00:21:30.476 --> 00:21:34.416 Oh, that's very nice. And, uh, oh yeah. I'm just looking now. Fineliner. 00:21:34.576 --> 00:21:39.936 Just got an update with even better shape recognition and the ability to hide 00:21:39.936 --> 00:21:43.376 layers. So, like, you can create pretty complex drawings. 00:21:43.856 --> 00:21:48.136 I want to mention something that I will probably include in my next roundup. 00:21:49.356 --> 00:21:54.776 So, this is called FLIT. F-L-I-T. 00:21:54.916 --> 00:21:55.936 I saw this 00:21:55.936 --> 00:21:59.016 somewhere on social media. Yeah, because I reposted it last 00:21:59.016 --> 00:22:02.496 night. So, this is an RSS reader that takes 00:22:02.496 --> 00:22:06.936 a very iPhone Duo native approach. Right. 00:22:06.936 --> 00:22:10.836 So, you have this RSS reader where you can swipe. 00:22:11.116 --> 00:22:16.776 So, these are your articles and you can swipe your cards to the left if you want 00:22:16.776 --> 00:22:20.936 to discard them or to the right if you want to read them later. Oh, 00:22:20.936 --> 00:22:24.016 all right. it's especially impressive when you read 00:22:24.016 --> 00:22:28.536 stuff like this in landscape mode. Oh, 00:22:28.556 --> 00:22:30.936 yeah. That's nice. swipe through your stories. 00:22:30.936 --> 00:22:33.896 Yeah. And the way that this works is, 00:22:34.236 --> 00:22:37.436 which is both something that I like and something that I dislike. 00:22:37.796 --> 00:22:41.536 And so, maybe this can also serve as feedback to the developer. 00:22:41.816 --> 00:22:47.696 The app can import your sources during the setup 00:22:47.696 --> 00:22:53.536 process from popular services like Inoreader, Feedbin, NewsBlur. 00:22:53.536 --> 00:22:57.336 But then, it uses its own iCloud sync. 00:22:57.996 --> 00:23:01.856 Whereas, I love this UI to be more 00:23:01.856 --> 00:23:04.296 of a client for those services. 00:23:04.496 --> 00:23:05.330 Right, exactly. 00:23:05.396 --> 00:23:10.216 Because don't want to stop using Feedbin as my RSS source of truth. 00:23:10.216 --> 00:23:14.636 But I want to have a UI like this for my RSS service. 00:23:14.856 --> 00:23:18.796 So, I think this app is doing a bunch of things really, really right. 00:23:19.016 --> 00:23:23.256 Like, for example, you can just navigate the entire app with your thumb. 00:23:23.496 --> 00:23:28.116 And you can just open a story, read it. You can use Apple Intelligence summaries. 00:23:28.236 --> 00:23:31.056 Like, if you just tap and hold, right? 00:23:31.496 --> 00:23:33.776 Siri is going to summarize the story for you. 00:23:33.916 --> 00:23:36.076 You just tap and hold on the story and you get a summary. 00:23:36.076 --> 00:23:37.496 So, like, it's very intuitive, 00:23:37.496 --> 00:23:41.896 but I would love it to be in sync with my Feedbin account. 00:23:42.116 --> 00:23:44.036 Yeah, I agree. I agree. All right. 00:23:44.116 --> 00:23:46.636 I have a couple different ones I want to mention still. 00:23:46.636 --> 00:23:50.176 One I want to mention is PopFold, which I think anybody who has kids, 00:23:50.376 --> 00:23:51.556 they will really like this. 00:23:51.556 --> 00:23:52.506 Although, you know, 00:23:52.796 --> 00:23:57.616 think twice before you give an iPhone to a really small child. 00:23:57.776 --> 00:24:02.176 But PopFold turns photos into, like, a pop-up book. 00:24:02.376 --> 00:24:05.676 Now, this is the default image that comes with the

app. 00:24:06.076 --> 00:24:07.576 It's of a little stuffed fox. 00:24:07.776 --> 00:24:09.776 And if you take the picture of the little 00:24:09.776 --> 00:24:13.636 stuffed fox and you fold your phone horizontally. 00:24:14.416 --> 00:24:15.250 Let me see. 00:24:15.296 --> 00:24:19.516 He starts popping out of the page. And it makes a little background. 00:24:19.616 --> 00:24:21.016 So, it blurs the background. 00:24:21.156 --> 00:24:23.236 Oh, I see. It gives, like, a 3D effect. 00:24:23.496 --> 00:24:25.616 Yeah. What it's doing is it's doing the subject 00:24:25.616 --> 00:24:27.596 extraction and putting the little board. Can 00:24:27.596 --> 00:24:32.276 you hold it a little higher so we can see? Oh, thank you. Oh, that's very nice. 00:24:32.516 --> 00:24:35.866 Yeah. It's really neat. And you can do that with any of your photos. 00:24:36.076 --> 00:24:41.356 Actually, it helps to have something that has a good contrasty definition around the 00:24:41.356 --> 00:24:45.016 edges. But, yeah. I wonder if this one works. 00:24:46.096 --> 00:24:48.956 This is a picture of you and me doing our podcast. 00:24:51.316 --> 00:24:52.536 Okay. Sure. 00:24:52.816 --> 00:24:55.336 Sure. It does elongate 00:24:55.336 --> 00:24:57.336 you a little popping off the screen over there. 00:24:57.336 --> 00:25:00.536 Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, you can then create. 00:25:00.696 --> 00:25:02.636 Then they're, like, when you close it up, it's 00:25:02.636 --> 00:25:05.836 like a little card. So, yeah. It's kind of fun. 00:25:07.136 --> 00:25:13.136 I want to mention this calendar app that it's very different 00:25:13.136 --> 00:25:15.996 from what I usually use, which is either, like, 00:25:16.076 --> 00:25:18.776 I alternate between Apple Calendar and Notion Calendar. 00:25:18.976 --> 00:25:22.996 Yeah. So, this app is called Calendaria. 00:25:23.156 --> 00:25:26.743 And it's more like a calendar companion utility. 00:25:26.742 --> 00:25:27.576 Yeah. 00:25:27.576 --> 00:25:31.536 You can use it if you're so inclined as your main calendar. 00:25:31.716 --> 00:25:35.276 But it doesn't have all the features that you would expect from your main calendar. 00:25:35.276 --> 00:25:40.096 So, this is more of a planner based on your calendar. 00:25:40.636 --> 00:25:43.316 And it has these four views. 00:25:45.256 --> 00:25:47.936 It's meant to show you your entire year. 00:25:48.816 --> 00:25:51.896 And so, you have this first sidebar with all of your months. 00:25:52.016 --> 00:25:53.956 Right. And for each month, 00:25:54.056 --> 00:25:58.156 it kind of pulls the highlight of what it thinks are the key events for each month. 00:25:58.256 --> 00:26:00.716 And then in the middle panel, which is a screen 00:26:00.716 --> 00:26:02.903 that I love more, like this one, I really like. 00:26:02.902 --> 00:26:03.736 Right. 00:26:03.736 --> 00:26:09.496 You have your whole month and a vertical list of all the days of the month and the 00:26:09.496 --> 00:26:15.123 events for each day. Then when you tap it, you advance horizontally again. can 00:26:15.122 --> 00:26:15.956 actually do 00:26:15.956 --> 00:26:16.790 this in 00:26:16.789 --> 00:26:18.956 the app. Exactly. So, you advance to the day. 00:26:18.956 --> 00:26:24.363 And then on the day, you can tap on an event and you advance to the actual event. 00:26:24.362 --> 00:26:25.196 Right. 00:26:25.196 --> 00:26:28.216 I love the horizontal navigation of this app. 00:26:28.316 --> 00:26:33.376 I think it works well for me as something on top of my calendar. 00:26:33.736 --> 00:26:35.836 Rather than a replacement for my calendar. 00:26:36.276 --> 00:26:39.736 And I think there's a lot of, because of the duo, 00:26:40.116 --> 00:26:43.596 there's a lot of experimentation, I think, 00:26:43.916 --> 00:26:48.676 in the category of like calendar apps, planner apps. 00:26:48.856 --> 00:26:52.456 Because you can have something very small and compact that can give you an overview. 00:26:52.456 --> 00:26:55.856 But also something quite expansive that can show you, you know, 00:26:55.936 --> 00:26:58.596 more days and more weeks at once, for example. 00:26:58.856 --> 00:27:00.176 So, yeah, this one is interesting. 00:27:00.176 --> 00:27:05.416 I mean, it's really interesting because it's a paradigm that's not totally 00:27:05.416 --> 00:27:07.076 different from what we've seen in the past. 00:27:07.076 --> 00:27:08.716 Like when you think of like RSS readers, 00:27:08.716 --> 00:27:14.576 you go from your sources to your list of articles to the details of the article. 00:27:14.576 --> 00:27:18.016 And that's true with a lot of different forms of apps like calendars. 00:27:18.176 --> 00:27:21.056 But because the device folds in half, 00:27:21.216 --> 00:27:25.016 it gives you a different way to kind of experience that. 00:27:25.156 --> 00:27:27.696 You can have on the small screen, 00:27:27.696 --> 00:27:30.976 you can have a detail view or maybe that's your big overview. 00:27:31.076 --> 00:27:34.956 But there's a lot of ways to explore how having it shut and then opening it 00:27:34.956 --> 00:27:39.156 transforms the way the layout works. 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What do you want to mention next? 00:30:24.436 --> 00:30:27.496 All I'm going to mention Fold and Squish. 00:30:27.716 --> 00:30:29.356 Fold and Squish. Oh, I want to see this in action. 00:30:29.356 --> 00:30:32.896 All right. So this is Fold and Squish. It is a painting app. 00:30:33.116 --> 00:30:35.796 And what you do is you pick a color over here, 00:30:35.816 --> 00:30:40.516 and you drop some paint onto the canvas. 00:30:40.796 --> 00:30:43.956 I'll do a few colors. All right. 00:30:43.956 --> 00:30:46.076 So now I have colors on my canvas, 00:30:46.076 --> 00:30:49.996 and I'm going to fold up my phone like this. 00:30:49.996 --> 00:30:52.236 See, you can kind of see the paint through it. 00:30:52.236 --> 00:30:55.776 Yeah. And I'm going to rub, rub, rub, rub. 00:30:56.796 --> 00:31:00.796 And then I'm going to open, and you'll see what I made. 00:31:01.156 --> 00:31:01.990 Okay. 00:31:02.496 --> 00:31:03.330 All right. 00:31:03.376 --> 00:31:05.976 It's kind of interesting what I made there, Federico. 00:31:06.656 --> 00:31:12.556 But they have, besides that, that blank canvas version, 00:31:12.556 --> 00:31:14.036 they also have, like, 00:31:14.116 --> 00:31:18.416 outlines of butterflies and owls and hearts and things that you can kind of 00:31:18.416 --> 00:31:22.436 roughly fill in with the paints, do the squishing, 00:31:22.436 --> 00:31:25.116 and then see what the results look like. 00:31:25.336 --> 00:31:29.676 Yeah. That's fun. I like that idea. Let's see. 00:31:29.836 --> 00:31:32.836 Oh, have you seen, what's the name? 00:31:33.216 --> 00:31:34.296 See, what I don't, 00:31:34.596 --> 00:31:38.756 here's something I don't like about having large Home Screen icons. 00:31:39.196 --> 00:31:40.976 What? It doesn't show you the name 00:31:40.976 --> 00:31:42.176 of the apps. 00:31:42.616 --> 00:31:44.856 Flip Corder. Have you seen Flip Corder? 00:31:44.896 --> 00:31:45.946 I have seen this one. 00:31:46.196 --> 00:31:51.236 Okay. So this is a, I'm going to show my cell phone video, I guess. 00:31:51.716 --> 00:31:53.516 Oh, yeah. Get your hand in the way. 00:31:54.216 --> 00:31:55.356 Okay. Like this. 00:31:55.956 --> 00:32:00.816 Hello. It's a retro video recording app for the iPhone Duo. 00:32:01.816 --> 00:32:03.996 That's the VHS version of Ticci. 00:32:03.996 --> 00:32:07.436 On the outer screen, you can see the preview, 00:32:07.436 --> 00:32:11.736 and on the inner screen, hello, hello. Love it. 00:32:11.736 --> 00:32:17.476 And it's got that, like, VHS look, which is, like, done really well, 00:32:17.536 --> 00:32:19.316 I should say. Like, if you used to have, like, 00:32:19.316 --> 00:32:21.276 one of those video cameras in the 90s, 00:32:21.596 --> 00:32:25.036 like the texture that you have on the images, 00:32:25.036 --> 00:32:30.356 you can actually choose to record in either VHS mode or DVD mode, and DVD mode, 00:32:30.476 --> 00:32:34.916 it's, like, standard, like, no texture. And you can choose your tapes. 00:32:35.136 --> 00:32:39.196 You can save your videos as tapes. I don't know. It's really fun. 00:32:39.496 --> 00:32:44.696 And if you ever want to shoot, like, a

retro-looking video, you can do that, 00:32:44.736 --> 00:32:46.536 and you can send it to your friends. 00:32:47.136 --> 00:32:50.416 So, yeah, that's Flip Corder for the iPhone Duo. 00:32:51.556 --> 00:32:54.716 All right. I've got kind of a fun one for you. 00:32:55.076 --> 00:32:58.476 It's called Snapshots. Have you seen this one? 00:32:58.716 --> 00:32:59.550 No. 00:33:01.836 --> 00:33:06.676 So, it's an instant camera where you take a picture. 00:33:07.056 --> 00:33:09.956 I'm going to, is it doing a preview? No, it doesn't do a preview. 00:33:09.956 --> 00:33:11.406 There's no preview with this. 00:33:12.536 --> 00:33:17.936 So, you take a picture, and then it has a few controls there, 00:33:18.096 --> 00:33:20.516 and it pulls out of this slot. 00:33:20.776 --> 00:33:23.696 I have to discard that picture so I can do another one. 00:33:23.836 --> 00:33:26.476 I don't know how I'm going to do this where people can see. 00:33:26.476 --> 00:33:27.456 I don't think I really can. 00:33:27.456 --> 00:33:30.696 But what you do is you hit the button to take the picture. 00:33:30.836 --> 00:33:32.836 I'm going to take a picture of Federico on my computer, 00:33:32.836 --> 00:33:35.916 and I'll try to turn it around quick. See it, Federico? 00:33:36.076 --> 00:33:40.636 It's coming out of the slot, and then it takes a while to develop like a Polaroid. 00:33:40.816 --> 00:33:43.296 Yeah. And slowly comes into view. 00:33:43.456 --> 00:33:47.476 And then you can keep it or do, you know, different things with it. 00:33:48.596 --> 00:33:50.976 You can even write like a little note on the back, 00:33:50.976 --> 00:33:55.076 like AppStories recording November, whatever, you know? Oh, 00:33:55.196 --> 00:33:56.030 that's fun. 00:33:57.776 --> 00:34:03.116 Let's see. Let's see. I will mention, this is a new one that I'm testing. 00:34:04.556 --> 00:34:08.156 And it's in my notes somewhere in my database. 00:34:08.876 --> 00:34:14.476 It is called, let me find it, let me find it, let me find it. Super Easy Timer. 00:34:15.096 --> 00:34:16.136 Okay. Okay. 00:34:16.416 --> 00:34:17.303 Oh, I've seen this one. I've seen this 00:34:17.302 --> 00:34:18.136 one too. 00:34:18.136 --> 00:34:22.476 Yeah. So this one I will also include in my next roundup. So Super Easy Timer. 00:34:24.456 --> 00:34:26.056 Quite ingenious idea. 00:34:26.576 --> 00:34:28.356 You create a timer, 00:34:28.596 --> 00:34:34.116 and the timer is always going to float on top of 00:34:34.116 --> 00:34:38.943 any app. It's never going to be dismissed into the Dynamic Island. 00:34:38.942 --> 00:34:39.776 Oh, okay. 00:34:39.776 --> 00:34:43.036 Because it uses a custom picture-in-picture. 00:34:43.276 --> 00:34:47.016 Oh, This is an API that Apple made for developers a few years ago. 00:34:47.416 --> 00:34:50.256 Yeah. can yoink the Clipboard Manager. 00:34:50.456 --> 00:34:55.096 Use Clipboard Picture-in-Picture to always float on top of your apps and always 00:34:55.096 --> 00:34:59.483 monitor your clipboard. This is the same idea. Looks like this. 00:34:59.482 --> 00:35:00.316 Okay. A 00:35:00.316 --> 00:35:03.236 giant timer. I love this interaction. Let me get closer. 00:35:03.676 --> 00:35:08.876 So to set up an amount of time, you grab the plus button. 00:35:08.922 --> 00:35:09.756 Let me show 00:35:09.756 --> 00:35:13.376 you here. So you grab the plus button, and you drag it up 00:35:13.376 --> 00:35:14.363 like Oh, 00:35:14.362 --> 00:35:15.196 that's nice. 00:35:15.196 --> 00:35:16.296 And you set the time. 00:35:18.496 --> 00:35:22.623 three minutes. And it's started, right? So I'm going to exit, and it's floating. 00:35:22.622 --> 00:35:23.456 See that 00:35:23.456 --> 00:35:24.296 it's floating? 00:35:24.296 --> 00:35:25.130 You 00:35:25.129 --> 00:35:26.516 can actually make the picture-in-picture. 00:35:26.516 --> 00:35:28.556 Yeah, or it's just like if you were watching YouTube, basically. 00:35:28.556 --> 00:35:32.336 Exactly. So you're always going to be able to keep an eye on your time because you're 00:35:32.336 --> 00:35:34.096 always going to have the picture-in-picture window. 00:35:34.096 --> 00:35:39.556 And when the timer is done, it can also use the AlarmKit technology, 00:35:39.556 --> 00:35:42.316 which is new as of iOS 26 last year, 00:35:42.456 --> 00:35:46.896 to actually bring up like a full-screen alert that tells you that your timer is 00:35:46.896 --> 00:35:51.916 done. So I just love the idea that, you know, since the iPhone Duo is bigger, 00:35:51.976 --> 00:35:57.236 and you can actually multitask, you can set up your iPhone Duo, 00:35:57.396 --> 00:35:59.296 have a keyboard, set up a timer, say, 00:35:59.396 --> 00:36:01.796 I want to write on the iPhone Duo for 25 minutes. 00:36:02.016 --> 00:36:04.716 Like if want to do the Pomodoro technique, for example, 00:36:04.916 --> 00:36:07.356 you can start 25 minutes in super easy timer. 00:36:08.116 --> 00:36:11.916 You know, it's going to start the timer, make the picture-in-picture smaller, 00:36:12.196 --> 00:36:15.616 put it off to the side, open, I don't know, Notion or Notes, 00:36:15.976 --> 00:36:17.176 write for 25 minutes, 00:36:17.176 --> 00:36:19.263 and then you're going to be able to keep an eye on your timer. 00:36:19.262 --> 00:36:20.096 Works really well. 00:36:20.096 --> 00:36:22.116 Yeah, it's a little bit like having slide over, 00:36:22.116 --> 00:36:24.736 even though the iPhone Duo doesn't have slide over, right? 00:36:24.736 --> 00:36:27.656 Yeah, yeah, exactly. So that's super easy timer. 00:36:27.936 --> 00:36:31.736 All right. I think I'm going to close out with one more, which is Duo Paper. 00:36:31.976 --> 00:36:36.976 Duo Paper is a wallpaper app that takes advantage of the different size screens so 00:36:36.976 --> 00:36:41.496 that it's got a big collection and they're nicely illustrated. Here's a good example. 00:36:41.796 -->

00:36:44.556 It's of an astronaut sitting on a string, right? 00:36:44.956 --> 00:36:48.516 And then you can, this is the preview version of it. 00:36:48.596 --> 00:36:54.176 And if you hit open, it animates open and you see the planets around the astronaut. 00:36:55.776 --> 00:36:57.256 There's this that you can look through. 00:36:57.256 --> 00:37:00.936 There's all kinds of styles, all kinds of collections that are available. 00:37:01.576 --> 00:37:06.356 And they all have that kind of effect where when you open the iPhone Duo, 00:37:06.636 --> 00:37:11.116 it expands the scene almost as though you're zooming out because you've got more 00:37:11.116 --> 00:37:15.176 screen real estate. And you see it kind of reveals a little bit more of the picture, 00:37:15.176 --> 00:37:16.836 which is kind of a delightful thing, I think. 00:37:16.836 --> 00:37:19.916 It's a, you know, I've seen a lot of them like this, but I really like the artwork. 00:37:19.916 --> 00:37:22.256 There's a really fantastic illustrations 00:37:22.256 --> 00:37:25.936 here of all sorts and it's a cool little app. 00:37:26.456 --> 00:37:29.896 Hmm. Nice. Ooh, I need to close with something. 00:37:31.556 --> 00:37:34.676 I want to see, I'm going look at your, I want to look at your story. 00:37:34.676 --> 00:37:37.076 Maybe you have one from your story that is worth. 00:37:37.236 --> 00:37:39.386 Yeah. There's one more that I can highlight. 00:37:39.636 --> 00:37:44.943 So I've mentioned Calendaria and T3 Code. I will mention Seal. 00:37:44.942 --> 00:37:45.776 Oh good. I was going to 00:37:45.776 --> 00:37:46.610 ask you. 00:37:46.609 --> 00:37:48.660 I was going to ask you to do this one. 00:37:49.916 --> 00:37:55.516 So it's going to be hard for me to choose by the end of the year between Seal 00:37:55.516 --> 00:38:00.196 and the upcoming update to Screens by Edovia, 00:38:00.556 --> 00:38:03.376 which I am going to cover on MacStories. 00:38:03.676 --> 00:38:07.236 And I'll just leave it at that because when this episode comes out, 00:38:07.436 --> 00:38:10.516 that update will not be out and I don't want to spoil it. 00:38:10.776 --> 00:38:15.256 It's going to be hard to choose between these two remote screen sharing apps. 00:38:16.036 --> 00:38:21.376 Obviously remote screen sharing is having a moment because of agents and remote Macs 00:38:21.376 --> 00:38:22.426 and remote computers. 00:38:22.676 --> 00:38:24.996 Including with our sponsor Workbench from Astropad. 00:38:24.996 --> 00:38:27.223 Yep. Yep. Yep. So it's a whole 00:38:27.222 --> 00:38:28.056 category. also very 00:38:28.056 --> 00:38:28.890 good. Yeah. 00:38:28.889 --> 00:38:33.816 It's a whole category. And each of them is trying a few different things. 00:38:34.216 --> 00:38:37.896 And all of these devices, like there's actually a story here, John, 00:38:38.016 --> 00:38:41.036 I think about like these apps as a new design playground. 00:38:41.216 --> 00:38:43.096 Remember that old expression? 00:38:43.096 --> 00:38:48.636 Yeah. All driven by how awful it is to try to remotely control a Mac with 00:38:48.636 --> 00:38:50.216 coding agents going. 00:38:50.456 --> 00:38:53.756 Yeah. And so Workbench does a few things that are really interesting, 00:38:53.756 --> 00:38:55.256 not because they're a sponsor. 00:38:55.256 --> 00:38:58.696 Like I generally appreciate this category of apps. 00:38:59.136 --> 00:39:00.716 Like in the latest update Workbench, 00:39:00.716 --> 00:39:04.496 they have like the segmented control that lets you switch between screen and 00:39:04.496 --> 00:39:07.356 terminal. Like that is a very clever idea. 00:39:08.136 --> 00:39:11.196 Screens is going to do a few different things in the next update. Right. 00:39:11.196 --> 00:39:14.076 Still does things again differently. 00:39:14.536 --> 00:39:15.396 So in this case, 00:39:15.696 --> 00:39:21.576 so you install this little host app on your Mac and you connect to the 00:39:21.576 --> 00:39:26.976 host app with your iPhone Duo and you get your full desktop. Right. Pretty standard. 00:39:26.976 --> 00:39:29.276 What's unique is that at the top of the screen, 00:39:29.416 --> 00:39:33.156 you will see there's a row of thumbnails. 00:39:33.696 --> 00:39:38.076 Those are your individual windows that are open on the Mac right now. 00:39:38.296 --> 00:39:40.896 This is something, Federico, just to pause you. 00:39:41.096 --> 00:39:43.763 This is something I had no idea was possible, but now I've seen 00:39:43.762 --> 00:39:44.596 two or 00:39:44.596 --> 00:39:45.576 three apps do it. 00:39:45.576 --> 00:39:50.456 Yeah. Yeah. Beam by the same developer of Calendaria, by the way. 00:39:50.456 --> 00:39:51.496 Oh, didn't realize it was the 00:39:51.496 --> 00:39:54.996 same person. yes. But Beam is like still in alpha or beta, 00:39:55.076 --> 00:39:56.436 like it's not on the App Store, 00:39:56.436 --> 00:40:00.016 which is why I picked still because still is on the App Store. 00:40:00.236 --> 00:40:02.396 When you click on one of those thumbnails, 00:40:02.936 --> 00:40:08.936 you will just stream that specific window and 00:40:08.936 --> 00:40:12.136 it will resize to match the resolution of the iPhone Duo. 00:40:12.136 --> 00:40:13.156 So for example, 00:40:13.356 --> 00:40:19.296 here I clicked on T3 Code and here I'm streaming just a T3 00:40:19.296 --> 00:40:21.776 Code with iPhone Duo resolution. 00:40:21.936 --> 00:40:25.756 It's using ScreenCaptureKit behind the scenes. 00:40:25.936 --> 00:40:27.736 It's using HEVC video, 00:40:28.116 --> 00:40:32.656 which is something that you will hear more about from me soon. 00:40:33.176 --> 00:40:34.036 And yeah, 00:40:34.096 --> 00:40:37.256 you can just pick whatever window you want or any point you can just say, yeah, 00:40:37.256 --> 00:40:38.323 I want to go back to the regular desktop. 00:40:38.322 --> 00:40:39.156 Right. 00:40:39.156 --> 00:40:42.876

You click here and a second later you go back to the full desktop. 00:40:42.922 --> 00:40:43.756 That's really cool. 00:40:43.756 --> 00:40:47.056 What's even more impressive is what happens when you close the Duo. 00:40:47.656 --> 00:40:52.436 You get this mini trackpad mode and like, I'm just going to show it to you. 00:40:52.836 --> 00:40:58.816 Like you get a mini trackpad here that actually lets you move your cursor and 00:40:58.816 --> 00:41:00.456 you get your desktop at the top. Amazing. 00:41:00.456 --> 00:41:04.416 This has to be one of the best outer display 00:41:04.416 --> 00:41:07.176 design I've seen for the Duo to date. 00:41:09.156 --> 00:41:13.156 And more and more of this sort of design where there's a strip along the top that 00:41:13.156 --> 00:41:17.916 allows you to go horizontally because the vertical spaces is so tight on the Duo. 00:41:18.156 --> 00:41:22.016 You really have, I think developers really have to start thinking horizontally more. 00:41:22.016 --> 00:41:25.796 So we mentioned a bunch of apps. I honestly lost track of them. 00:41:26.096 --> 00:41:28.736 But there's a pretty good way to keep track of them, 00:41:28.956 --> 00:41:32.016 which is to check out the show notes of this podcast, 00:41:32.356 --> 00:41:34.716 which you can find in any podcast player. 00:41:34.716 --> 00:41:37.966 And you can just click those apps and get them from the App Store. 00:41:38.376 --> 00:41:42.036 So, and obviously go check out the roundups that we do at MacStories. 00:41:42.536 --> 00:41:46.676 We're going to try and have one or two on a weekly basis for, 00:41:46.676 --> 00:41:48.516 we don't know for how long. 00:41:48.736 --> 00:41:50.856 Yeah. I mean, Apple's been keeping us busy, 00:41:50.856 --> 00:41:53.876 which has made it harder than we had hoped. 00:41:54.036 --> 00:41:56.196 But yeah, we're going to keep doing it. We've got a bunch. 00:41:56.196 --> 00:41:58.616 I've got another one planned for next week already. 00:41:58.616 --> 00:42:00.366 Yeah. Yeah. And I'm saving already. 00:42:00.416 --> 00:42:03.836 have a list of apps that I want to cover in my second productivity roundup. 00:42:03.836 --> 00:42:08.396 So it's going to be a while. But yeah, we hope that you enjoyed this episode. 00:42:08.396 --> 00:42:11.996 We're going to do a few more of these on AppStories because like I said, 00:42:12.116 --> 00:42:16.556 MacStories is largely comprised of three things. 00:42:16.556 --> 00:42:20.116 The website, the membership program, and the podcasts. 00:42:20.396 --> 00:42:24.736 So we're going to be using all the avenues we have to work through our backlog of 00:42:24.736 --> 00:42:25.616 iPhone Duo apps. 00:42:25.816 --> 00:42:29.276 And I mean, look, apps have been our thing since the very beginning, 00:42:29.516 --> 00:42:31.466 since the very founding of MacStories. 00:42:31.516 --> 00:42:32.856 I know that we've been busy. 00:42:32.856 --> 00:42:35.136 Like eventually I'm supposed to write about the iPhone Duo. 00:42:35.136 --> 00:42:37.486 I'm supposed to write about the new MacBook Pro. 00:42:37.496 --> 00:42:38.330 Right. 00:42:38.396 --> 00:42:40.146 But I just love writing about apps. 00:42:40.476 --> 00:42:46.336 And I haven't felt this way in a sustained manner 00:42:46.336 --> 00:42:48.356 since the iPad days. 00:42:48.516 --> 00:42:53.136 Because with the Apple Watch and with the Vision Pro, like after a couple of weeks, 00:42:53.256 --> 00:42:56.916 you're like, okay, you know, the novelty effect is worn off. 00:42:57.022 --> 00:42:57.856 I'm done. 00:42:57.856 --> 00:43:00.836 This thing is sticky. This thing, this thing. 00:43:01.076 --> 00:43:05.156 It's different. It's really, it's a different animal altogether. 00:43:05.696 --> 00:43:06.676 Yeah. All right. 00:43:08.756 --> 00:43:10.776 We forgot to mention AppStories Plus. 00:43:11.096 --> 00:43:13.476 Oh, I was going to mention. I was just waiting for you to finish up. 00:43:13.476 --> 00:43:14.536 Well, there you I'm trying to be patient. 00:43:14.536 --> 00:43:15.396 It's all yours. It's all 00:43:15.396 --> 00:43:16.996 yours. All right. So in AppStories Plus, 00:43:16.996 --> 00:43:21.236 we're going to talk about Siri AI because Apple has revealed some pretty big 00:43:21.236 --> 00:43:23.536 developments for Siri AI. 00:43:23.616 --> 00:43:28.096 And we're going to, we're going to kind of dig into them because I, what was that? 00:43:28.556 --> 00:43:30.776 Can I be the guy? Be the guy. 00:43:30.776 --> 00:43:32.976 But John, but John, what is AppStories Plus? 00:43:33.196 --> 00:43:34.636 Well, Federico, 00:43:34.776 --> 00:43:39.176 AppStories Plus is the extended version of this very show that's ad free, right? 00:43:39.316 --> 00:43:43.496 And it comes out a day early and it's even in higher quality audio, all those things. 00:43:43.496 --> 00:43:48.296 And you can either get it as a standalone subscription or as part of Club MacStories 00:43:48.296 --> 00:43:53.576 Premier, which is what Federico discussed at the beginning of the show. 00:43:53.576 --> 00:43:55.356 So we'll put a link in the show notes. 00:43:55.356 --> 00:43:57.296 You can go figure out what that's all about if you want. 00:43:57.296 --> 00:44:00.576 But we, this is where we talk about super nerdy stuff. 00:44:00.716 --> 00:44:04.216 And today, you know, as much as we want to keep talking about apps, 00:44:04.356 --> 00:44:06.376 we do have other things to talk about. 00:44:06.576 --> 00:44:08.963 And Siri AI is what it's going to be about today. 00:44:08.962 --> 00:44:09.796 All right. Let's 00:44:09.796 --> 00:44:10.716 do it. right? All right. 00:44:10.716 --> 00:44:12.716 All right. Well, thanks everybody for joining us. 00:44:12.716 --> 00:44:16.896 You can find us over at MacStories.net, cranking away on the apps. 00:44:17.096 --> 00:44:20.636 And of course, we're on social media where Federico is @viticci. 00:44:20.636 --> 00:44:25.076 That's V-I-T-I-C-C-I. And I'm @johnvoorhees. 00:44:25.316 --> 00:44:30.596 J-O-H-N-V-O-O-R-H-E-E-S. Talk to you next week, Federico. 00:44:30.876 --> 00:44:31.710 Ciao, John.