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What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
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Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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where we left off with the Hillary Clinton transcript from
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her trip to Congress. Lauren Boebert, I will get those
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and I'll skip that question until she gets cut off
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by Comer, but an audible woman asked generally if she
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was aware. Lawyer, generally she's asking if she's aware of
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specific information about That is in the files that you're
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all relying on. Please provide the witness with copies of
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that material. Chairman Comer, if the client doesn't know or
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has no recollection, she's welcome to state so. Lawyer, we're
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also welcome to actually see the information that you're taking today. Comer, again,
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the representative is asking general questions. Clinton, I mean, I
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expected a lot of interesting questions today, but Pizzagate was
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not on my list. Boebert, that's okay. We're asking all
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sorts of things here. Answer, you certainly are. You certainly are. Question,
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we're just trying to get the truth out of the
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American people with some clarity. Clinton, well, that would be
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very helpful. Question, are you aware of any files that
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were on Anthony Weiner's laptop in a folder that was
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titled Insurance, Life Insurance, with a zip file titled Frazzle Drip? Lawyer,
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excuse me, Chairman's ruling. Lawyer, this is way outside of
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the scope. Another lawyer, is this in the scope? Is
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this within the scope, Mr. Chairman? Boebert, if the chairman rules,
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that's not within the scope. I have other questions. Mr. Chairman,
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based on what you said in the public hearing, is
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this within the scope? Hillary's lawyer asks, Chairman, we can
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go off the record for a moment. They come back on. Mr. Chairman,
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is this within the scope? They go off the record.
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Now they come back on. Question, Madam Clinton, you've stated
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that you do not recall meeting Jeffrey Epstein and having
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no links to him. Have you reviewed any photos, emails,
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or records from the released Epstein files that might refresh
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your recollection of any encounter, event, or introduction involving them?
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Once again, the lawyer jumps in. Excuse me? Before, you
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were stating that with respect to an interview or with
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respect to what she has stated here today? Answer, I'm
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asking in general, has anything that you have viewed since
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the release of the Epstein files brought any sort of
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recollection of an encounter with Epstein? Answer, not that I recall. Question,
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you acknowledge meeting Ghislaine Maxwell on a few occasions in
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connection with a global initiative. Please describe each meeting in detail. Answer,
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I did not. Actually, in response to a question which
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posited that she had come to the Clinton Global Initiative
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in 2013, I stated I did not have any involvement
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in that and I didn't recall seeing her there. But
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I have seen photos that she has been there. And
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in 2013, she was very active promoting this ocean work
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that she was doing. And apparently everybody from the UN
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to CNN to the TED Talk people thought it was
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worth giving her a platform. Question. Madam Clinton, one of
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the jobs you did for the CGI was helping and
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maybe even directing and planning of the annual meetings. Is
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that correct? Answer. No. The staff plans the annual meeting
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and they make a report and we offer suggestions. Question.
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In 2013, Maxwell was recognized ASA committed to Action Leader. Clinton,
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she made a commitment in 2013, along with hundreds, maybe
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thousands of other people. Question, so I find it notable
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that in 2011, Doug Band says that he directed the
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Clinton Foundation staff to bar Maxwell from receiving an invite
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to CGI or the Clinton Foundation events. I'd like to
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know who overruled Doug Band's suggestion to bar Maxwell. Lawyer, objection,
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based on hearsay, states facts, not in evidence. You can
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ask the witness if she knows anything about it. Answer,
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I know nothing about
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it. Question by the chairman. One moment, Ms. Boebert.
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The federal rules of evidence don't apply in depositions. Clinton,
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that's fine. I don't know anything about it. Boebert, okay.
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And so would you also not have any indication that
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who she was personally recommended by to receive such an order? Answer,
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I was secretary of state. I was not involved in
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the CGI planning or operation agreement. Question, your husband presented
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that award or is that true? Answer, I have no idea. Question, okay.
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And then just a couple more questions. So regarding the
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Epstein files, there are many files where Jeffrey Epstein seems
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to speak as though he does know you personally. In
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one file, EFTA 0657115, Mr. Epstein is commenting and he quotes, Hey,
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Hillary Clinton is much prettier in person. This was Tuesday,
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September 20th, 2011. Hillary Clinton, I'm going to object to that.
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Lawyer jumps in, Congresswoman, can we see the documents because
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we don't think. Lawyer says, we should get that document.
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Bober just keeps going. Question, Jeffrey Epstein has also commented
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that meetings with Hillary are not easily discreet. Has he
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ever connected someone to meet with you? Answer, not that
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I'm aware of. Question, okay, I'm going to let my
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colleagues ask some questions. Maybe I'll be back. Thank you. Speaker,
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thank you. And we'll let staff. Speaker jumps in, Secretary Clinton.
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Just to circle back to a few things, you mentioned
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that your daughter, Chelsea, had a friendly relationship. Is that
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correct with Ms. Maxwell? Answer, I believe so. Question, and
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did Chelsea tell you what made that relationship friendly? Answer again,
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it was through Ted Waite, the longtime friend of ours.
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That's how I certainly met her. Question, so Chelsea met
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Ghislaine through Ted Waite as well? Answer, I believe that's right. Question,
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and I believe that you testified earlier, Ted Waite's been
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a family friend for 30 years or something to that effect. Answer,
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early 90s, yes. Question, and having a friend that long,
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you never discussed Ms. Maxwell with Mr. Waite? Answer, I
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don't discuss the relationship of my friends. That's up to them. Question,
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and to be clear, you never discussed Ms. Maxwell's relationship
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with Mr. Waite? Answer, not that I recall. My memory
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is that shortly after the wedding on July 31st, 2010,
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shortly after that, they broke up. And shortly after that,
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he married somebody else. I know nothing about the relationship.
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I'm just describing what I believe was the chronology. Question understood.
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And upon that breakup, as you said, Mr. Waite never
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said anything to the effect of why they broke up?
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Answer not to me. He didn't. Question. And circling the
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2013 CGI annual conference that's been brought up on a
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few occasions today. Clinton, yeah, indeed. Question. I believe you
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said you didn't remember seeing Ms. Maxwell there. Is that correct? Answer.
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I don't recall seeing her there. Question. and you had
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no interaction with her at all? Answer, not that I recall. Question,
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after this 2013 annual conference at CGI, did anyone raise
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any concerns to you about Ms. Maxwell being there? Answer,
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not that I recall. Question, separate from the 2013 event,
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did Mr. Band ever raise concerns about Maxwell to you? Answer,
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not that I recall. Question, and again, just to clarify,
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did Mr. Band ever attempt to blacklist Ms. Maxwell? From
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any Clinton Foundation or CGI event? Answer, not that I
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know of, but I can't say that I would have known. Question,
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when did Mr. Band leave the foundation? Answer, I don't know.
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I don't know. Question, does 2012 sound possible? Answer, I
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don't know. It was during my time as Secretary of State.
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I wouldn't have an answer to no. Question, who would
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have final decisions over the list of individuals or entities
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that would get recognized at a CGI event? Answer, it
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was a staff decision. Question, if the staff made the decision,
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would the board have any input
on that? Answer, not
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that I'm aware of. They might make suggestions as to
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people that should be contacted or followed up with. But
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I don't know specifically that I certainly don't know anything
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about her involvement. Question understood and suggestions. What type of
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suggestions would they make on individuals or entities? Answer, oh,
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they might say this person's doing great work on affordable
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housing or this person. has done some really exciting hygiene work,
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trying to improve the well-being of people in some countries.
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It would be things like that. So maybe invite the
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person because we can maybe introduce this person to somebody
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who's interested in doing the same kind of work. And
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maybe they can make a commitment together. Question. Are you
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aware of President Clinton having lunch or other types of
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meals with Ms. Maxwell in 2014? Answer. I don't recall
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knowing that. Question. Have you since been made aware of
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the fact? Answer, yes, I have been. Question, and was
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that in preparation for the deposition? Answer, it was. Question,
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are you aware of any other more recent meetings between
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Maxwell and any members of your family? Answer, I am not. Question,
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does the Clinton Foundation often use jets of other individuals
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for foundation business? Answer, yes. Question, and that's still a
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common practice today? Answer, I don't know how common it is,
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but it has been in the past. Question, And were
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there any other type of aircraft that you were aware
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of President Clinton traveling on with Epstein? Answer, not that
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I'm aware of. Question, Secretary Clinton. Do you know who
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Nicholas Sarkozy is? Answer, I do. The former president of France. Question,
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and do you recall when he was president of France? Answer,
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he was president while I was Secretary of State, but
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I don't know his actual years of term. Question, I'm
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going to introduce his Majority Exhibit 17. An email from
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the Department of Justice release of the Epstein-related files. Just
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give us a second. We'll provide that to you all. Lawyer, also,
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while we have a break, I think Congressman Perry, we
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wound up with at least three of your pages here,
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two pages. So they get back to it. Secretary Clinton,
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this is an email, the top of the page says,
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to Olivier Cologne. I will stipulate to you that he
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was an advisor to President Sarkozy. It's bait-stamped EFTA 019-49592.
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The original email here is from Mr. Cologne, and he asked,
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could you organize a discreet meeting between Sarko and Hillary
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Clinton in New York? If not, who should I ask? Mr.
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Epstein replies, meetings with Hillary are not easily discreet. When?
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We started to touch on this earlier. Are you aware
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of Mr. Epstein or any of his staff reaching out
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to anyone on your staff to set up a meeting? Answer,
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I am not aware, and I find it kind of
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weird because I know Sarkozy. If somebody was seeking a
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meeting with me and Sarkozy, he would not have needed
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to go through anybody else. He could have contacted me directly.
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Question understood. And just to be clear, have you seen
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this email exchange previously? Answer yes. Question, and that was
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in preparation for your deposition. Answer yes. Question, but no
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prior awareness of this email chain? Answer, none whatsoever. Question,
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did Mr. Epstein or any of his agents attempt to
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set up any other meetings with you? Answer, not that
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I know of. but I have no idea what they
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thought they were trying to do. Question, Secretary Clinton. We've
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touched on this a little bit, but just to make
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sure the record is totally clear here. Have you said
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that you've never been to Mr. Epstein's island? Is that correct? Answer,
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you know what? I'm so tired of answering that question.
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If you have one scintilla of evidence to the contrary,
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put it forward. I've never been on the island, period.
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I've never been in his homes,
his offices, his anything.
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So I don't know how many times you have to
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say the same thing over and over and over again.
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and I'm just struggling with the relevance of all of this,
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but no, I never have been. Question, and based off
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that response, that would include, you have never been to Mr.
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Epstein's Manhattan townhome? Answer, no. His New Mexico ranch, no.
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His Palm Beach residence, no. His Paris apartment, no. I
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didn't know he had one. Haven't been there. Also find
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it very interesting because I went back and looked at
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the transcripts of all your other depositions, and none of
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the Republicans asked a single question to any witness about
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Jeffrey Epstein, or any question that would help provide answers
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for his victims to any of the people you deposed.
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In fact, the only questions that were asked were asked
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by the chairman to Attorney General Barr. And what was
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that about? They weren't about Jeffrey Epstein. They weren't about
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Glenn Maxwell. They weren't about his victims or survivors. They
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were General Barr. I may jump in for a couple questions.
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Were you aware of the involvement of Hillary Clinton and
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the Clinton campaign in Russian collusion investigation involving Trump? Chairman Comer,
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this is a deposition, Ms. Clinton. She cuts him off. Well,
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I'm just saying you have kept me here for four
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hours asking the same questions over and over again. I've
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given the same answers over and over again. Comer, Madam Secretary,
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we will. Clinton, not a single Republican. Comer, if you
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could give us just a minute, gets cut off again
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by Hillary Clinton. At any of your depositions, has asked
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a question about Epstein or Maxwell. And it does seem
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to me that if the members were truly interested in
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getting to the truth, you would have asked Barr, Acosta, Wexner.
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You didn't even show up. Comer, Madam Secretary, I believe
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we are very close to finishing. Lawyer, or the person
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asking the questions, Madam Secretary, did Jeffrey Epstein ever request
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any meeting with your State Department officials? Answer, not that
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I'm aware of. Lawyer jumps in, that's been asked and answered, Counsel.
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She said she's never talked to him. She said that repeatedly. Clinton, well,
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your previous answer. Clinton, yeah, whatever. Question, did Maxwell ever
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request any meeting between you and your State Department officials? Clinton,
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not that I'm aware of. Question, are you aware of
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any communication between your State Department staff and Mr. Epstein
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or Ms. Maxwell? Answer, I am not. Lawyer, yeah, it's
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the third and final round. She's staying. Next up, asking questions,
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Nancy Mace. And that's where we're going to pick up
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in the next episode. All the information that goes with
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this episode can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,
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and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In
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this episode, we're going to finish off the Hillary Clinton
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transcript from her trip to Congress. Nancy Mace, this is
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my third and final round. That's for me, okay? That
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should make you happy. You stated earlier it was false
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that Secret Service was dropped from some flights with Clinton
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and Epstein, correct? Lawyer, no, she didn't say that. Nancy Mace,
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who said that was false? Lawyer, let the record reflect.
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Nancy Mace, okay. Lawyer, just for clarification, her husband has
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never signed off of Secret Service. That means anytime he's
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traveling or anytime he has gone anywhere, he's not signed
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off from Secret Service coverage, which means the Secret Service
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moved with him. Mace, okay, did you know that Secret
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Service was FOIA'd by FoxNews.com in 2016, asking for this information,
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and the Secret Service refused to provide it? I have
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a document here which we can provide to you. Question,
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information to the press about flight logs because on a
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five-leg trip to Asia in 2016, it says from May
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22nd to May 25th, not a single Secret Service agent
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is listed on the flight logs. And every other flight
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that he was on, they're listed on the logs. Lawyer,
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is your question for the Secret Service or is your
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question for the Secretary? Mace, well, I believe it was
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stated earlier that it was false. I'm clarifying that the
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public was forced. Gets cut off by the lawyer. What
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was stated is false. Can we just make? Can you
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read back for the record? So that you were actually
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stating the actual facts? Nancy Mace, okay. I stated earlier
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this afternoon, while we're burning time, I suppose, with the
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last final 10 minutes of this, it was about the
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Secret Service not traveling with Clinton. I asked a question
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about whether or not they travel with President Clinton at
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all times. And when I stated that they did not,
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I heard false. We can get the transcript tomorrow, but
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this is a Fox News report that all you now
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have where it states that the Secret Service did not
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fly with Clinton on all the flight legs with him,
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so I wanted to clarify the record. Lawyer, to clarify,
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you're saying that because Fox News reported that, that the
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Secret Service are lying? Answer, they weren't on the flight
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logs on five legs to the trip to Asia. Lawyer,
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just clarify the question then. Comer, I believe what's being
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asked of Madam Secretary, not for your testimony, misredacted, Lawyer,
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I'm not seeking to testify. I'm seeking to clarify that
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she's representing what the secretary said and that she's not
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representing it accurately. Nancy Mace, okay, we can quibble over
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something else then. Earlier, I don't know if this got,
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did this get printed off earlier? This eight page interview
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with victim 3501144. Lawyer jumps in, this article will be
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majority 18. Nancy Mace, okay, so I have an exhibit
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for majority 19. I have it here, the article now. Mace,
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I don't know if this got printed off. This will
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be a document that I would like to enter as
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an exhibit for a majority, I guess. What number are
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we on? 1-9. Mace, it's with victim 3501.144, and the
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document would be 032. I asked for it to print
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off earlier, but I know that we've had issues with printing.
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So they go off record. They come back on. All right,
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all right. So this will be majority exhibit number 19.
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And have you reviewed this document? Have you seen the
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document before? Clinton, I have never seen this document before. Mace,
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this is the first time that you've ever seen this document?
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Earlier in my second round, I was asking questions, and
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I made mention about Bill Clinton, President Clinton's visit to
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Epstein's Island, and that a possible cover-up of those visits,
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and I was called a liar, I believe, by somebody
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on the other side of this table. Clinton, I don't
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think I did, do you? Mace, and I would provide
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this document to go over it with you. This is
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an interview by the FBI of an Epstein victim. It's 3501.144-032.
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And on page 8, which I'll give it to you,
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or I can read it to you, I'll give this back.
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If you can read the last sentence, would you please
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read it? Clinton, I'm not interested in reading something. I
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have no idea what it is. If you want to
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read it, go right ahead. Nancy makes, okay, I'll read it.
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I was called a liar over this, so this particular
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victim stated, on the record, in an interview with the FBI...
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Epstein wanted blank the name of victim one to say
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that blank victim number two was a liar and that
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President Clinton was never on Epstein's Island. So I stated
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earlier for the record that Epstein directed victims to lie
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about your husband's visit to Epstein's Island.
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a liar and this document, lawyer jumps in, if you recall,
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that is not accurate. The records will reflect that the
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court reporter can read it back with respect to whether
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or not President Clinton has ever been on Epstein's Island.
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If somebody had represented that, That would not be accurate.
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Nancy Mace, Jeffrey Epstein directed his victim to state a
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lie about Bill Clinton never being on the island. Now
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on page 7 for the record, which I know you've
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never seen, there's a fully redacted paragraph. And that fully
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redacted paragraph is the unredacted files of the DOJ revealed
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that President Clinton, it redacts his name, and also discusses
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notepads that the victims wrote down in phone calls with
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Jeffrey Epstein. Because she was told to lie about another victim,
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and lie about Bill Clinton's visit to Epstein's Island. I
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don't know why this information is redacted, and also the
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attachment in this file, by the way, there were notes.
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You can't see those at the DOJ, they're still redacted,
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which is the reason we're here today. We want to
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get to the bottom of this and get the truth. Lawyer,
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excuse me, was there a question? Mace, I'm making a statement.
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I want to know if she's ever seen this document before.
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She was aware. I was called a liar earlier. This
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victim was told by Jeffrey Epstein to lie to Bill Clinton. Lawyer,
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she answered that question. Mace, okay, I was just answering
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the question for the attorney. I have majority exhibit number 20.
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that I would like to enter into the record. And
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this is page 88 on a federal case between Virginia
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Roberts and Ghislaine Maxwell. Speaker, can you hold on a second? Uh-huh. Speaker, oh,
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that's different. Thank you very much. Speaker, it's going to
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be 20. Congressman Perry, yes, sir. Speaker, could you hold
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for one second, please? Clinton, no, this is something else
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coming here. So they're going through it, trying to get
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to the right page. They finally get the printout. We
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should be looking at Exhibit 8 right now. Is that right? Answer, correct. Lawyer,
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and not anything related to the other document? Chairman, for
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the record it's labeled Exhibit 20, but the actual document
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states Exhibit 8 on the front. That is correct. Question,
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that was just a cover page. I had printed off
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because these documents are hundreds of pages. I'm not an attorney.
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Someone jumps in, I don't know who it is, Speaker 30,
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just to be clear it's a single page of some
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exhibits in a court filing. Mace, that's hundreds of pages long. Comer,
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there are two pages. Speaker, can you please represent for
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the record what we're filing this is and what the
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title of the document is? Mace, this would be Virginia v.
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Maxwell federal lawsuit filed on the 1st of January, 2024.
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And it's page 88 of that documentation. What's the filing
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of the lawsuit? Asked the lawyer. Mace, it's in the filing.
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So they're just going through all the bullshit, okay? Now
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they're going back to the questioning and Nancy Mace It's
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the first shared paragraph. I'm going to ask about it. Speaker,
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I'm going to ask that these chairmen ask me a
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question he asked me about in Audible. So they're just
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fighting now, like usual. Comer, for the record, Counselor and Counselor,
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the document in the case is U.S. District Court for
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Southern District of New York in Virginia v. Maxwell, and
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I believe the Congresswoman has already stated the case number
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that is listed at the top of the document. This
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would be the defendant's submission regarding search items... and terms
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and notice of compliance with court order concerning forensic examination
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of devices. So now she's finally ready after all this bullshit. Again,
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another speaker jumps in. Who filed the document? Mace, Ghislaine Maxwell.
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Speaker 26, Maxwell filed the document. All right, we're cutting
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out all the bullshit and we're getting right back to
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So they go off the record. Now they come back
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on Nancy Mace. May I ask you a question? Okay,
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so court filings in this particular court filing. It lists
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you among 13 specific witnesses for whom Virginia Roberts was
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seeking all communications. There are no allegations against you, but
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why do you believe that you're included on a list
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with people like Prince Andrew, Alan Dershowitz, Emmy Taylor, the Dubins,
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Jean-Luc Brunel, Bill Clinton, and yourself? Lawyer jumps in objection.
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This calls for speculation. It's a partial document. The witness
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may answer if she can, but it's a list of
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names in a search term description. Clinton, I have no idea. Mace,
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did you know at any point That your communications were
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sought after in this lawsuit? Answer, so I know nothing
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about that. Mace, so you were never made aware that
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your name was mentioned in this lawsuit? Answer, this is
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the first time that I'm seeing it. Question, no one's
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ever spoken to you about your name in a lawsuit? Answer,
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not that I can recall. Question, do you think if someone?
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Lawyer jumps in again in this lawsuit, excuse me. Mace, yes. Lawyer,
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a lawsuit or this lawsuit? Mace, this lawsuit. Lawyer, okay, sorry. Question,
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this lawsuit. Do you think that your staff would tell
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you if you were named in a lawsuit? Would they
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brief you on it if you're being named in a
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public filing or a lawsuit? Answer, I don't know what
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this means. I have no idea. Mace, your communications were
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sought by Virginia Roberts in her suit against Ghislaine Maxwell. Clinton,
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no lawyers that I'm aware of ever contacted me. Mace,
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no one ever told you? Clinton, no. Question, you were
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never made aware of that. Answer, not that I recall. Question,
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did you ever vet the wedding guests of your daughter's wedding?
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Did you know Glenn Maxwell was coming? Answer, she came
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as Ted Wade's guest. Question, but you're the former first lady,
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former senator, former secretary of state. You didn't vet individuals
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at the event for your daughter? Clinton, this was filed when?
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Nancy Mace, so it would have been 2024? Clinton, well, yeah,
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the wedding was in 2010. Nancy Mace, I moved on
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to another question about the wedding, but I know that
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the chairman wants to ask some questions, so? Comer, he's
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got a few more. Then I'll ask the last question. Question.
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Secretary Clinton, thank you again for being here today. I
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have one final question for you, and then I'll turn
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it over to the chairman. Would you say that being
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associated with powerful or influential individuals would give you someone credibility?
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And in this case, Mr. Epstein used that credibility around
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the world. Clinton, I have no idea what he did
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or didn't do. Question. Understood. Sure. Comer, Madam Secretary, if
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you're following this, and I'm sure you are in Britain
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with the arrest of Prince Andrew and former ambassador to
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the British ambassador of the United States, they were arrested.
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It's my understanding, not for sex crimes, but for potential
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treason or potential violation of national security protocol. One of
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the things that a lot of people, and you may
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call it a conspiracy theory or whatever, but I believe
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I've seen it on CNN. I've seen it on Fox.
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I've seen it in the Washington Post and New York Times.
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There's a lot of speculation that he may have been
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an asset. And I know several questions may have been
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asked today. And you've given a lot of advice for
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the committee on how we can move forward. And our
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objective is to get the transparency to the American people
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and get the truth to the American people. And by
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the documents being released, the estate documents that we subpoenaed,
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as well as the DOJ documents, we're already seeing many
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powerful people, men and women held accountable. So I feel
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like this investigation is moving in the right direction.
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one of the things that we're stumped is, How do
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we determine whether or not Epstein was a spy? Whether
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or not Epstein was trading secrets because he had people
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on the inside, especially in the Obama administration. We're not
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saying you, but Obama's former counsel that then went on
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to Goldman Sachs. Where do we go in this investigation
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to try to determine whether or not he was an asset? Mr. Chairman,
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I really appreciate that question, says Clinton. And I can't
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say that about many of the questions, but I really
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do appreciate that question. And I think it's an absolutely
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essential question for you to try to examine and find
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answers for. And I think you said that you had
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either document requests or maybe even a subpoena to the CIA.
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I would also include the DNI. I would include any
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counterintelligence or appropriate unit within the Justice Department. I think
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you have cast a wide net. And now that, as
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you described, the government of the UK investigating both Andrew
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and Mandelson, maybe they would cooperate with your investigation. And
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maybe you could reach out to the intelligence agencies of
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other countries that you're looking at. Israel has been mentioned.
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Perhaps that's one to go to. I don't think Iran
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is going to cooperate or Russia, but I think you
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could certainly go to the UK and go to Israel
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and see if they would be helpful at all. Question.
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In your experience as Secretary of State, and I know
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you were First Lady, but you were more active, in
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my opinion, than most First Ladies in the President Clinton administration.
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Does he exhibit characteristics? Is there a pattern? that would
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lead you and your expertise to believe that he was
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an asset? Answer, well, there certainly is in the files,
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and I do commend you for getting as much released
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as you can. I hope that you get it all released.
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Hints of a relationship with powerful foreign leaders, pictures, emails, meetings.
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He was clearly somebody who traded off information. Comer, exactly. Clinton,
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he liked to collect it, and he liked to use it.
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I don't know any more details than that. So certainly,
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as I said earlier, the intelligence connection, the money connection,
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the crimes, Those seem to me to be the three
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major elements of your investigation. Comer, and obviously as the
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last question before my questions, he wanted to make the
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appearance at least that he had friends in high places.
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And you've seen the emails that have been released, and
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I know you testified today that you've never met Epstein,
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but he's implied to people that he was very close
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to the Clintons. He's implied that he was very close
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with Donald Trump. He's implied that he was close with
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a lot of people. Even Wexner denied that he was
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very close. I don't know how many of us believe that,
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but it's what he said under oath. And it's just
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amazing to me. And I think most Americans who are
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following this, how this guy could have Prince Andrew, a
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frequent visitor, have people from the Saudi royal family, people
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at the highest levels in several administrations. And that's why
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we brought you in. We're just trying to get answers.
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And again, I think that one of the big questions,
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and it looks like that's the direction Britain's going is,
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was he a spy? He was committing treason in any country.
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So that's why we would welcome any advice if you
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have any thoughts after this or anything else. Clinton, Chairman,
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I want to get to the bottom of this to
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the best of your ability, and I'm more than happy
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to offer whatever insight I might have, as you say,
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about the framework of this and also about any further
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action to take or trafficking to strengthen our response. Comer,
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and that's one more question. I think we've got a
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minute or two left. So you obviously stated in your
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opening statement that you were involved with human trafficking and
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trying to prevent that. with what you've seen in the files,
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what Epstein was doing with those girls, recruiting other girls
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to come in, does that meet the legal definition of
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human trafficking? Or is it more of prostitution? Because one
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of the things that we want to do at the
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end of the investigation, and I think Ms. Mace will
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play a big role in that, and Ms. Luna and Ms.
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Simon and all the members in both parties, hopefully is
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trying to strengthen the human trafficking laws. And some people
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have suggested based on what they've seen, maybe some of
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that wouldn't have, the government couldn't have prosecuted him on
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human trafficking because it didn't meet the definition. Do you
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have anything to add, Clinton? Well, again, I don't know
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all the specifics that you have at your disposal, but
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I've also read in some of the press that he
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was importing women from other countries. So I think there's
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a distinction, a distinction probably, between what happened in the U.S.,
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but also what he was doing in other countries. But really, Mr. Chairman,
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you have to study this and analyze it and advise
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other colleagues in the Congress, your colleagues in the administration,
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about laws that need to be changed and strengthened and
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resources that should be directed because at the end of
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the day, girls and women were abused. Whether they were
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abused through solicitation or prostitution and the lies and the
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promises that were made to these young women, that in
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itself is just despicable. But then a system that got
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close to customs agents, got close to local prosecutors. This
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man was a master manipulator, a con artist of the
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ninth degree. And so anything you can do to try
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to understand how he operated and how he really misled
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and duped so many people into thinking he was intelligent
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and was interesting in everything they say about
him in
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the emails that have come out. So that would be
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great public service to try to really understand this and
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break it down into different categories that you're looking at. Comer,
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hopefully we can do that. in a manner that I believe. Okay,
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they go off the record. Now they come back on.
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Speaker 34, we can go back on the record. Ma'am,
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I have just one clarification. It was an email chain
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that I don't think was actually introduced as an exhibit,
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so I can point you to it, but it's related
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to Howard Lutnick and some kind of event at Kenner Fitzgerald.
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I just wanted to ask our understanding of that email
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chain is that you were not on it. It was
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Lutnick to Groff to Epstein, and we don't believe that
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you were part of the email. Is that the best
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of your understanding? Answer, that's the best of my understanding. Speaker, okay,
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is there anything else you'd like to clarify or add
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before your testimony here today? Clinton, well, I want to
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underscore how important it is to try to get answers
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to all the questions that everybody has about what happened
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and what did what, and try to have some measure
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of both public awareness and accountability. So I've answered the
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questions to the best of my ability, and I offer
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to the committee that if I can be helpful in
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any way, I would certainly be helpful because I think
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that these issues are important ones that need to be addressed. Question,
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and your answers here today were the best of your recollection.
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Is that right? Answer, that is correct. All right, I
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think with that, unless you have something else you'd like
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to add? Clinton, let's ask my lawyers. Anything that you
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think we should clarify? Question, when do you think we'll
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have the transcript? Then they go off the record. Yo,
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of all this stuff that we've went through, that was
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one of the most painful transcripts we've ever read. The
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amount of stupidity from both sides of the aisle is staggering.
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And you already know that your boy is going to
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have a monologue talking about it. But that's for a
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different time. As far as this goes, that's going to
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do it. All the information that goes with this episode
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can be found in the description box. What's up everyone
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and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. The
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Congressional Oversight Committee took a field trip to New York
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yesterday where they spent six hours questioning Hillary Clinton about
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what she might or might not know About Jeffrey Epstein.
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And according to the after action reports. That we're getting
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from people that were involved. It descended into a shit show.
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Which shouldn't shock anybody. Considering the performative nature. Of this
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whole entire thing. Since the very beginning. And look. You
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can say what you want about the Clintons. Hillary and
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Bill both. But they are political animals. And if anybody
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thinks that they're going to get outmaneuvered. By people like
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James Comer. Or Anna Paulina Luna. Has not been paying attention.
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Because there's a bunch of questions they should have asked
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her that they didn't even bother asking. At least according
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to the initial reporting. Now the caveat to that is,
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we haven't seen the transcripts yet ourselves. So we're just
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getting the pieces that both sides want to give us.
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But if this preliminary reporting's true, then they squandered an
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opportunity once again. And they'll probably do the same thing
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with Bill Clinton. Because it comes down to this. They
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don't even know what they're talking about. The people that
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are supposed to be investigating this story, this scandal, don't
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even know the basics. So if you don't even know
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the basics, but you're going to get to the bottom
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of all of this, you're going to figure out what happened.
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You're going to hold people accountable. Zero chance that's going
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to happen. And my guess is today with Bill Clinton,
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it'll be the same thing. Now, look, I'm not going
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to go completely ham on the GOP yet until I
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see the transcripts. But considering the people involved, my guess
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is it was an absolute clown show. So today, We
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have an article from AP and the headline, Hillary Clinton
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testifies she has no information on Epstein's crimes and doesn't
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recall meeting him. Well, I think that's a lie. But
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how do you prove it, right? That's the thing. It's
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going to be very hard to prove anything she says wrong. Unless,
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of course, you're willing to dig and you're willing to
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bring other people in for questioning, like Jared Kellogg, who
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says that the Clintons used to vacation at Zorro Ranch.
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And I heard that from numerous people when I went
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to Zorro Ranch myself. So is she lying about that?
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I guess she could say, we used his property, but
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we never hung out with him. He wasn't there. And
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if you want to believe that, cool. Me personally, I
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have a hard time believing that Hillary Clinton never met
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Jeffrey Epstein. This article was authored by Stephen Groves. Former
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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told members of Congress on
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Thursday that she had no knowledge of Jeffrey Epstein or
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Glenn Maxwell's crimes, starting off two days of depositions that
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will also include former President Bill Clinton. Well, we know
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that Bill Clinton can't use that excuse because he definitely
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knew who Jeffrey Epstein was. Definitely had him at the
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White House 17 times. Definitely shared a hotel suite with
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him when they were in South Africa. Definitely had a
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favorite seat On the plane. See where I'm going with this?
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Kind of hard to believe that Hillary Clinton knew nothing
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about any of it. I had no idea about their
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criminal activity. Well, I don't doubt that. I'm not saying
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that Hillary knew what they were up to, right? But
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she's a grifter of epic proportions. And if Epstein was
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ponying up a bunch of money, especially after Bill and
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Hillary left the White House, when they were broke, right?
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Trying to collect a bunch of dough. They're going to
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accept it. Not even a question. Does anyone even question that?
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I mean, I remember all of that happening in real time. Not,
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you know, their relationship with Epstein, but the Clintons on
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the war path, basically trying to raise money. And wouldn't
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you know it, who provided the seed money to get
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the Clinton global initiative off the ground? Oh, that's right.
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Jeffrey Epstein. That's not me telling you. That's Epstein's own
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lawyer who said it. The closed-door deposition concluded Thursday after
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over six hours of Hillary Clinton giving an answer to
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every question. The depositions in the Clintons' hometown of Chappaqua,
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a typically quiet hamlet north of New York City, come
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after months of tense back-and-forth between the former high-powered Democratic
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couple and the Republican-controlled House Oversight Committee as it investigates Epstein,
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who killed himself in a New York jail cell in
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2019 while awaiting trial. Allegedly. I love when they confidently say,
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Epstein committed suicide. Oh, okay, cool. And then the next article,
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they're like, you can't trust the government. Well, which is it?
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Do you trust the government? Or don't you? I mean,
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what is this? Rage against some of the machine? Yo,
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I find it laughable when people are out here talking about, well,
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the government is bad when the other team's in charge.
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But when my team's in charge, all of a sudden,
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they're magnanimous. And they care about people. They want to
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help people. And they're going to do everything in their
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power to make sure your life is great. Vote for
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my team. And then two years later, after an election cycle,
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all we hear is, you can't trust the government anymore.
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They're filled with liars and snakes. Breaking news. Every single
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administration is filled with liars and snakes. Yet the demand
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for a reckoning over Epstein's abuse of underage girls has
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become a near unstoppable force on Capitol Hill and beyond. Well,
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should have dealt with it earlier. It's amazing to me
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that people are crying about due process. You know who
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didn't get due process? The people who were abused. They
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didn't get due process. They weren't treated correctly. There wasn't
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a real investigation. But go ahead and go off about
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due process for the people that were involved. It is
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amazing to me. And it's also amazing to me how
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these people can be so mad at these young girls
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who were groomed and coerced into Jeffrey Epstein's Ponzi scheme.
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than they are at the men that are being named.
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And it tells you everything you need to know about
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them and their narrative and what they're trying to pitch.
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President Donald Trump, a Republican, who has expressed regret that
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the Clintons are being forced to testify, bowed last year
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to pressure to release case files on Epstein. No he didn't,
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he was forced to do it. What do you mean
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bowed to pressure? The bill was veto proof. So there
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was nothing Donald Trump could do about it. The Clintons, too,
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agreed to testify after their offers of sworn statements were
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rebuffed by the oversight panel and its chairman, Representative James Comer,
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threatened criminal contempt of Congress charges against them. Meanwhile, no
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more investigation into Lex Wex. right? No big deal. Jeffrey
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Epstein's number one ace. No more investigation there. James Comer's
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a clown. And this whole entire committee? A clown show.
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And if it wasn't for the discharge petition... they would
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have done exactly what they were trying to do, muddy
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the waters, slow things down, and give Donald Trump and
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the Epstein administration cover. That was the goal. But thankfully,
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Ro Khanna and Thomas Massey had other ideas. I mean,
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can you imagine if
we were relying on James frickin' Comer?
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Like every other decent person, Hillary Clinton added in her
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opening statement, I've been horrified by what I have learned
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about their crimes. She has previously said that her husband
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flew with Epstein for charitable trips, but that she did
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not recall ever meeting Epstein. She also interacted with Maxwell,
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Epstein's former girlfriend and confidant, at conferences hosted by the
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Clinton Foundation. I'm sure that's the only time. And I'm
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sure Jeffrey was never around, never once. Come on, who
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buys this? Does anyone really believe that Hillary Clinton is
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telling the truth? Especially about this topic? Let's be real.
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But the problem is, Hillary Clinton wasn't deeply engaged with
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Jeffrey Epstein. Bill Clinton, on the other hand, has a
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lot to answer for. With Hillary, it's just basic lies. Oh,
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I was never here. I was never there. But we
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have people who have come out and told us differently.
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So it comes down to, who do you believe? And me,
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I believe Jared Kellogg and the Bryce family, who used
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to manage Zorro Ranch, that Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton
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and Chelsea used to go there on vacation. And that's
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because multiple people corroborated that for me when I was
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in Zorro Ranch myself. So look, everybody's free to believe
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whatever they want. Like I always tell you, I'm not
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here to convince anybody of anything. I'm here to open
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the door. And if you walk through it, cool. If not, hey,
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that's great too. But in my opinion, there is no
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doubt that Hillary Clinton knew Jeffrey Epstein. Were they buddies?
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Were they, you know, on the phone yapping about This, that,
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or the other thing? No. But they certainly knew each other. Maxwell,
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a British socialite? You mean, a child abuser? All-around scumbag?
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Bipedal serpent? Is that what you mean? Also attended the
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2010 wedding of their daughter, Chelsea Clinton. As she exited
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the event center, where the deposition
was held, Hillary Clinton
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told reporters that Maxwell had come to the wedding as
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a guest of someone else, and that she had told
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the committee she only knew Maxwell as an acquaintance. So,
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according to her, she was a plus one with Ted Waite,
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who used to be Maxwell's dude. And according to Hillary,
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that's why Maxwell was at the wedding, because she invited Waite,
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and Waite brought Maxwell. Now, you can believe that or
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not believe it, but that's what Hillary Clinton said. Bill Clinton, however,
756
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has emerged as a top target for Republicans amid the
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political struggle over who received the most scrutiny for their
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ties to Epstein. Several photos of the former president were
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included in the first tranche of Epstein files released by
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the Department of Justice in January, including a number of
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him with women whose faces were redacted. Clinton has not
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been accused of wrongdoing in his relationship with Epstein. Well,
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that's true. He hasn't been. Not by anybody who's serious
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about the case. But he has been accused of enabling.
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He has been accused of opening doors that Jeffrey Epstein
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would have never been able to walk through. Comer also
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pointed to Hillary Clinton's work as Secretary of State to
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address sex trafficking as another reason to insist on her deposition.
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Clinton defended her work to address sex trafficking around the world,
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saying it remained important to help the millions of survivors
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of sex trafficking. Well, that's something we can all agree on, right? Yet,
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what has anyone done to help them? I mean, if
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you were a survivor of human trafficking... and you saw
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this shit show taking place, would you want to come forward?
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Would you have anything to say to anybody? I probably
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would just keep my mouth shut and stay home at
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this point. You have the President of the United States
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calling it a hoax? Really? Do you really think that's
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the kind of environment that fosters people wanting to
come
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forward and talk about what happened to them? The committee's
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investigation has also sought to understand why the Department of
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Justice under previous presidential administrations did not seek further charges
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against Epstein following a 2008 arrangement in which he pleaded
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guilty to state charges in Florida for soliciting prostitution from
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an underage girl, but avoided federal charges. Yeah, but there
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was a big investigation. And Jeffrey Epstein, well, he only
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solicited one girl. And she was 17. Bunch of idiots.
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Hillary Clinton accused Comer of running a one-sided investigation that's
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failed the whole Trump and other Republican officials to account.
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This institutional failure is designed to protect one political party
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and one public official, she said. Yet conspiracy theories, especially
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on the right, have swirled for years around the Clintons
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and their connections to Epstein and Maxwell, who argue she
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was wrongfully convicted. Republicans have long wanted to press the
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Clintons for answers. Well, they should. And what do you
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mean conspiracy theories? We're still talking like this? Are you
797
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guys for real right now? They just never learn. The
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legacy media never learns. And this is why I turn
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down every request from the legacy media. They can go
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find somebody else. I have no desire to talk to them.
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Bunch of morons. They don't even know what they're talking about.
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Conspiracy theories. Meanwhile, the whole entire left is engulfed with
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people eating babies and cannibalism. I'd say that the conspiracy
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theories are rife, no matter the political side. And that's
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because there's a lack of information and a lack of
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context from the government. So if you really want somebody
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to blame, look no further than the DOJ and Donald Trump.
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Hillary Clinton said that one Republican lawmaker asked her a
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line of questions about vile, bogus conspiracy theories. The deposition
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was also paused after Representative Lauren Boebert sent a
photo
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of Hillary Clinton in the private preceding, To a conservative
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influencer who posted it on social media, violating the committee's
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rules for depositions. Yo, dumb and dumber over here. Lauren
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Boebert and Benny Johnson. Every time I see a tweet
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from Benny Johnson, it's either straight up BS or some
816
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bootlicking nonsense where he's pledging allegiance to the administration. And
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people follow that. People think that dude's like reliable or something.
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Shit's crazy to me. And Lauren Boebert. Yeah, let's send
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a picture. to Benny Johnson. And of course she'll cry
820
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when it goes the other way, right? Oh, the decorum, this, that,
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the other thing. Breaking news, you're all a bunch of clowns,
822
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all of you. Every last one of you. Democrats said
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that the incident underscored how important it was for there
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to be a clear public record of the deposition. Representative
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Robert Garcia, the top Democrat on the oversight panel, said
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that Hillary Clinton, after the incident, repeated her longstanding demand
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that the deposition be made public, and the Democrats called
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for a video and transcript of the complete proceedings to
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be released quickly. Comer said that he would work quickly
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to release a video and transcript of the deposition. Well,
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isn't that nice of him? You mean you're going to
832
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do your job, James Comer the Gomer? That's nice. The
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purpose of the whole investigation is try to understand many
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things about Epstein, he told reporters outside the convention center
835
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where the depositions were being held. How did he accumulate
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so much wealth? How was he able to surround himself
837
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with some of the most powerful men in the world? Well,
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that's easy. They're all fellow travelers. That's what these people do.
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The whole ass financial sector is corrupt. I don't know
840
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how many times I got to say it. Finally, people
841
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are starting to catch on. I mean, it's wild to
842
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me you didn't figure it out earlier when you went
843
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and got a loan and they tried to charge you 35%,
844
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which is wild as hell. Considering if you're from the
845
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neighborhood and you know the right guy, you can go
846
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and get that same loan for cheaper on the street.
847
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Half a point, one point, maybe one and a half, depending.
848
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But if you know the right people, you'll get a
849
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cheaper loan on the street. Think about that for a minute.
850
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And then think about them all laughing with Jeffrey Epstein
851
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as they're breaking bread. doing God knows what. Democrats now
852
00:48:30.710 --> 00:48:33.869
being led by a new generation of politicians have prioritized
853
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transparency around Epstein over defending the former leaders of their party. Well,
854
00:48:38.969 --> 00:48:42.929
that's not really true because yesterday they came out swinging. Oh,
855
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it's all tilted. Clinton this, Clinton that. Stop it. Okay?
856
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Stop it. Now, Hillary Clinton, not a priority when it
857
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comes to these depositions, but Bill Clinton, most certainly. And
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I don't want to hear shit from people trying to
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defend Bill Clinton. This man spent a lot of time
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with Epstein. And it's about time he gets under oath
861
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and tells us what he knows, when he knew it,
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and what he saw. Is that really too much to ask?
863
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Garcia also called on Trump to testify in the investigation.
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He argued that Bill Clinton's appearance sets a precedent that
865
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should apply to Trump as well. Bingo, what did I
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tell you? Didn't I have a whole episode on that
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weeks ago? Because that was the goal. That's the motivation
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for the Democrats here. You have to understand everything's done
869
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with a political shade. Even when they say it's not,
870
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it most certainly is. And the whole entire point here
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was to set a precedent to get Donald Trump in
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the hot seat. Comer previously said the committee can't depose
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Trump because he's a sitting president. Still, Democrats are also
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coming off an effort this week to confront Trump about
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his administration's handling of the Epstein files by
taking women
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who survived Epstein's abuse as their guests to Trump's State
877
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of the Union address. Garcia and others are also challenging
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the Department of Justice's assertion that it has met the
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requirements of a law passed by Congress last year, that
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mandated the release of many of the case files on Epstein.
881
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They didn't follow the law, okay? They did everything but
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follow the law. And it's crazy to think that they
883
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actually believe or they'd actually pitch the narrative that they did.
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They've done everything but follow the law. Senate Democrat leader
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Chuck Schumer of New York said his caucus in the
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coming days would also review unredacted versions of the Epstein
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case files at a Department of Justice office. Schumer, who
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demanded that the department release all the files and preserve
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all materials, said that they will pull on every thread
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until they reveal this massive cover up. Well, cool. Let's
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start by talking about the money you received from Jeffrey Epstein, Mr. Schumer,
892
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back in the day. How about we just start there?
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Did you ever have any other contact with him? Ever
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hang out with him? Ever at his house? These are
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the questions that have to be asked of everybody. And look,
896
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just because we ask questions doesn't mean we think everybody's guilty.
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At least not me. But we have to figure out
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what's what. And when you have an investigation that is
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as massive as this, as complex, everybody has to be
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talked to. If you've ever received one single dollar from
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Jeffrey Epstein and I'm the investigator, we're talking. If you've
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ever broke bread with them, we're talking. Now that doesn't
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mean I'm going to try and, you know, hang you
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by your toes. But I have questions. And I need
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some answers. And for all these years, we haven't had
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those answers. So now it's time for people to stop
907
00:51:49.579 --> 00:51:53.309
the bullshit, stop the grandstanding, stop the political theater, and
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it's time to come clean. What did you know? And
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when did you know it? How about we start there?
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All right, folks, that's going to do it for this one.
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So over the next couple of days, I'm going to
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be posting the OIG report into Jeffrey Epstein's death once again.
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And I think it's very, very interesting to look at
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it with a sober eye because we also have all
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the contemporaneous information now, including the deposition from Michael Thomas
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that we're going through. And to add to that, we
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have a lot of new listeners who have never listened
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to it before. So you can expect that as the
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Mega Edition over the weekend, as we continue to swim
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through all this muck, looking for some clarity. All the
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information that goes with this episode can be found in
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