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Good evening, everyone, and welcome to Midnight Frequency Radio, coming
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to you live from the Ozark Foothills in northeast Arkansas.
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I'm your host, Carl Richardson. Tonight, we're going to do
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something that I think is becoming increasingly important when we
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talk about UFOs. We're going to look backward. These days,
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almost every conversation about UFOs seems to revolve around u aps, disclosure,
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congressional hearings, whistleblowers, and whatever the Pentagon may or may
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not be telling us. But long before anybody started calling
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these things UAPs, people were looking into the sky and
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seeing objects that apparently had no business being there. For decades, pilots,
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police officers, military personnel, and ordinary citizens have reported enormous
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craft moving silently through the night, objects performing maneuvers conventional
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aircraft couldn't duplicate, and close encounters that remain unexplained. But
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thousands of others have been largely forgotten, buried in newspaper
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archives and collections accumulated by organizations such as the APRO,
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the NICAP, move On and CUFOS. And that's where tonight's
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journey begins. Our guest, Michael Scratt, has spent more than
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thirty years investigating over seventy five thousand UFO case files,
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traveling to archives, examining private collections, and conducting what he
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calls boots on the ground research. Tonight, Michael will be
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talking to us on what we'll call our version of
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the UFO Magical Mystery Tour. We're going to travel through
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decades of UFO history, from the nineteen fifty eight encounter
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involving the USS Franklin D. Roosevelt to Falcon Lake, the
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nineteen seventy three Mansfield Army helicopter incident Cash London, the
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enormous craft reported over Hudson Valley, the Belgian Triangle sidings,
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and several remarkable cases that many of us have probably
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never even heard of. But Michael brings another perspective to
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this subject. He's also a military aerospace historian and private pilot.
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He has spent years studying classified aircraft, advanced aerospace programs,
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and propulsion systems, and that raises an important question. When
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somebody sees something extraordinary in the sky, what exactly are
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they seeing technology from somewhere else? A classified military aircraft
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years ahead of what the public knows exist, are something
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else entirely history has shown us that extraordinary aircraft can
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be flying while the government publicly denies their existence. But
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then there are cases involving massive silent craft, incredible acceleration,
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strange occupants, physical effects, and technology seeming far beyond anything
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known at the time. And that's where the mystery deepens.
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Maybe some of the answers we're looking for aren't hiding
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in the latest government report. Maybe they've been sitting quietly
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in archives and filing cabinets for fifty, sixty or seventy years,
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waiting for someone to take another look. Tonight, we're going
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to open some of these old files. We're going back
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to the witnesses, back to the pilots, back to the
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military encounters, and back to those strange nights when somebody
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looked into the sky and saw something they simply couldn't explain.
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Dear web, you know, dear with you then.
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Precious time when.
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Time is.
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Coming to you at the speed of light in the darkness.
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This is Midnight Frequency Radio with Carl Richardson. Now here's Carl.
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Michael. Welcome to Midnight Frequency Radio.
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Thank you, Carl. Good to be with you.
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I guess I'm going to start out before we get
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into the UFO cases this evening. Can you tell us
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a little bit about yourself. I know you're a private
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pilot and you have you're being into military airspace history.
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What first started it all for you? Was it an
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airshow you saw, or something you read or something different?
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Well, first of all, I want to thank you for
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that miraculous and wonderful introduction. That was great.
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Well, I appreciate it.
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I mean that was just so well worded. To answer
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your question, aviation has been a passion of mine my
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entire life. My father took me to ash Goosh very
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early on and went like twenty seven years in a row.
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One thing led to the next. I started researching classified
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aircraft within the military industrial complex. I wanted to find
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out where our tax dollars are disappearing, and it was
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very clear that there was a whole series of birds
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within the Reagan administration that have never seen the day
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of the light of day. So I thought that was interesting.
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That led to some of the UFO sidings that mimic
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the form, fit and function of other things that we've seen. So,
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in point of fact, when we look at UFOs, there's
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a significant portion of UFO sightings that are our own
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deep black programs, and they're painting their aircraft with the
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UFO brush, And that's where the confusion lies, because we
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could be looking at eighty five five percent our own craft,
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but they want us to believe that everything is alien.
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It's a great cover. So we'll look at some of
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those tonight.
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Is a tr three b one of those, it's all.
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I think it's one of those for a number of reasons,
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because if we look at the Belgium triangle wave nineteen
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eighty nine nineteen ninety, we had thousands of eyewitness reported
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a trianglar shaped craft with rounded corners. There was a
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white light at each corner, there was a red light
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in the center, and then witnesses reported tubes, pipes and
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cylinders and a grill work and a diamond treadwork and
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register like a heating register. That's what they described on
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the bottom. They also reported a low frequency electrical hunt
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noise like a transformer or a sewing machine, So that
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is indicative of a high voltage electrical field.
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Do you remember the first ufok shoe encounter that made
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you think, hmm, maybe this is real or just something
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to it.
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I don't know if I remember the first one, but
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certainly the classic cases are significant, right, and I think
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like top three just in my assessment is Hudson Valley
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Boomerang nineteen eighty two to nineteen eighty nine, twenty five
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thousand witnesses. At the very minimum, March twenty fourth, nineteen
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eighty three, we had hundreds of people that pulled off
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to the side of the road on the Taconic State Parkway.
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They were looking up, completely shocked to see a massive
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boomerang shaped craft with spotlight shining down. There were reports
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of a buzzing noise, just like the Belgium triangle that
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happened years later. They also reported that those pipes and
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tubes and cylinders and these things were primarily seen on
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Thursday nights. They were always seen at night. Essentially, the
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military never scrambled left sixteens. I thought that was interesting.
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Why would you not want to scramble F sixteens unless
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they need Yeah, yeah, that funny. I always thought that
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was interesting. Okay, then number two, we've got Lonnie Zamora
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April twenty fourth, nineteen
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he encountered a minimum sixteen foot long egg shaped craft
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with pogo landing gear legs with very interesting landing gear
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pads that appear to be man made. Two small statue
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humanoid beings wearing a one piece type fitting flight suit.
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So that's number two. Number three has to be Cash
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Landrum December twenty ninth, nineteen eighty Huffman, Texas, where Betty
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Cash Vicki Landrum and Kolbe Landrum encountered a double you
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could call it a double ice cream cone connected at
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the wide end with a series of porthole windows wrapped
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around the outer circumference. Was bobbing above Kimee Farm Roade
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fourteen twenty five near Huffman, Texas. And every time this
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craft would bob down, there was a blue colored flame
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coming out of the bottom and it left a burned
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scorch mark on the pavement. Now, according to John Schustler,
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who we just lost recently, the Army Corps of Engineers
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came in, they dug up the road and then two
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weeks later they dug it up again and repaved it twice,
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which I thought was very interesting. So those are top three.
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So I think a combination of just the critical cases
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kind of mixed in with the man made craft just
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never left me. It's always kept my attention.
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When you do your boots on the ground and you
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go through a university ar cribs, private collections and stuff
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are when you're visiting moufon and going through their stuff,
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what types of things do you find in their files?
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Right? Well, that's what I love to do. I love
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digging up these old cases and making them come alive.
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For example, Q four Center for UFO Studies, that's twenty
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four fifty seven West Peterson Aviting, Downtown Chicago, now been
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moved from that location, but they had just about sixteen
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file cabinets of thousands of files, probably sixty thousand, and
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it literally took three years to go through every single
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Manila folder. Now, the criteria that I used was that
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if it had a flight path report, it had a
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sketch from the witness of the craft itself, and then
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kind of a three page narrative to go with it.
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Those three criteria is what I used to copy it.
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If it had that, I would make a copy. If
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it didn't, I would move on to the next one.
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And so from that point I do a solid works
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AutoCAD rendering, a full color rendering. And now with the
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technology we have today, we can really make these cases
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come alive. So that's important to preserve our history.
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As you go through these files, and like I say,
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I'm sure you have a large stack that ends up
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pushing it aside your background and aviation and stuff. Does
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that help and you're examining these as far as possible
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reports of the maneuverability of the craft or the speed.
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I think so, And what I'm finding here, and I
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think this is important to stress, is that when you
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start looking through these old historical cases which the government
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refuses to acknowledge, they think that anything prior to the
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Nimits encounter doesn't exist, and they rebranded UFOs as UAP,
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trying to make anything prior to completely disappear. Where We're
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going to shatter that tonight. But what I'm finding when
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I go through these cases is that a lot of
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these UFOs have prong sticking out, have protrusions sticking out,
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have like steel rods sticking out with a spherit at
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the end. And I'm thinking, what is that for these
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features on these UFOs. It's not by accident. Every single
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feature on these UFOs, they serve a purpose. It's not
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by accident. So I started digging and I started really
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meditating on this, and I collected probably thirty cases now
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where I've got these UFOs with these prong sticking out
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with spheres at the end of them.
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What is this?
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Why would UFOs have this on there? So when you
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look at high voltage
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electrical discharge probes that you see on a Whimshurst generator.
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We'll look at it tonight, and that is an absolute
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telltale sign of a high voltage electrical charge field, which
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also causes static electricity, which we've heard many times on
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witnesses where the hair stood up on their arms and
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there was static on the radio. That's exactly what happens
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when you have a localized static electrical field. But to
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dissipate that electrical charge, you've got these discharge and that
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I believe is what's going on, and that points to
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a man made technology for some of these UFOs, but
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not all of them.
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Yeah, you've been involved with the term crashing retrieval cases.
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What does that consist of.
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Well, it's been kicked around a lot now, and that's
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primarily almost all we're hearing about. You mentioned disclosure and
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your introduction, and you're absolutely correct. The other terminology we're
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hearing is the quote unquote legacy program. When they say
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their word legacy program. In point of fact, what they
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are referring to, which is completely forgotten about now because
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this is all ancient history. They are referring to Leonard
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Springfield's original crash retrieval cases. He was doing this fifty
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years ago, and he's an unsung hero, like nobody even
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even knows of him. Certainly, he's less known in ufology.
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Now he is known to a certain degree, but when
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you step outside the ring of UFO researchers, he's completely unknown.
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If you talk to someone on the street or coworker
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and you mentioned the word Leonard Springfield, that name, they
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won't know who you're talking about. And I think it's
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sad because he was literally fifty years ahead of his time.
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And we're hearing about reverse engineering programs in the halls
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of Congress in Washington, DC, we're hearing about legacy UAP
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crash retrieval programs. David Grush talks about an ongoing UAP
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crash retrieval program. What he's referring to is Leonard Springfield's
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original witnesses. Now, Leonard spent thirty years collecting first hand
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military witnesses, who held the bodies, who did the autopsies,
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who worked on the tissue samples, who loaded craft onto
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eighteen wheeler tractor trailer low boy trucks and the ship
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them to write Patterson Air Force Space. These are the
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first ten military witnesses that we really need to track
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down because, as Stanton talked about many times, at this point,
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we are beyond chasing the Undertaker. It is the final
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curtain call when.
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We look back, can we go beyond Roswell? As far
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as I believe, there was one crash in Cape Girardo
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of Missouri, if I'm not mistaken, that predates Roswell, isn't it.
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Yeah, there's a couple of cases that predate Roswell that
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we have a case north of Georgia at an army
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base that even Leonard didn't know where it was, but
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that was in nineteen forty two. We had the Battle
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Los Angeles that was prior to Rosswell, we have the
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Magenta Italy case in thirty three, so there were cases,
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and of course you've got Cape Girardo nineteen forty one,
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so there were cases prior to Roswell.
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Roswell just seems to stick out. I guess that's story
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has been sold so many told so many times, and
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then appeired on so many different movies and everything related.
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That's the one everyone kind of gravitates toward. But you're right,
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You're right, the one in Cape Girado was there a
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craft retrieve then at.
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That absolutely so. It's April twentieth of nineteen forty one.
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Reverend William Hoffman he had a knock on the door.
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He got a call from the police department and they
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came in a car. It wasn't a squad car, and
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I think it was running nine thirty ten pm at night,
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and he goes in with the police officer. They drive
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across town. When they get there, they see some smoldering embers.
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There's some farm people nearby. And he said that he
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saw about a thirty foot diameter dish shaped craft that
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was augured in at about a thirty deg gre angle.
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There was a whole breach on the side of the craft.
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He looked inside and I've got illustrations of all of this,
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and he said that there was what looked like a
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control panel with buttons and switches. There appeared to be
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some chairs in there. Now he saw two deceased et bodies.
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They were three and a half to four feet tall.
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that was dark in color. They had oversized head, oversized eyes,
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slipped for a mouth minute nose. One of them was
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still alive. He got to him within sixty seconds. By
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that time, the military took over control of the whole area.
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The police was there, the fire department was there. Now.
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While all this was going on, before the military took
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total control of this, there were newspaper photographers going around
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snapping photographs. And one of these newspaper photographers snapped a
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photo of two farm helpers lifting up one of the
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dead deceased et corpses, supporting it under its armpits and
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outstretching its arms and took a snapshot of this thing.
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I'm familiar with that, And he took it on a
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small pocket camera was small for that time, and they
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didn't confiscate anything from it.
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Yeah, that's good. Two weeks later that photographer showed up
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at the reverend's home and said, Reverend, I think I've
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got something I want to give you here, and he
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gave him a copy of that photograph and it was
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handed down through the family. Charlotte Man got to get
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good to see this. She saw it with her own eyes.
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She described it, and then it disappeared into the hands
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of a quote unquote photography expert and it's never been
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seen again. So I spent a lot of time trying
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to reproduce that, and so you can see that we
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get so close in these UFO cases, but then something
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always throws us two feet back.
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Makes you wish the family had made a second copy
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and buried in a time capsule.
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So I'm sure for sure, Yes, let's.
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Move on to Broswell. I know they had to one
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crash there, but was there not a separate vehicle.
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Well, it's been alleged that there was a second vehicle,
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but if you talk specifically to Don Schmidt about that now,
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he only signs off on one crash. So that would
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have been on the night of July second, nineteen forty seven,
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at eleven fifty nine PM, where the main craft exploded
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over the Foster Ranch and rained down the debris. The
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next morning, July third, nineteen forty seven, we've got Mac
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Brazil and seven year old Timothy D. Proctor who got
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up there on horseback. They saw the debris field and
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there were three types of debris. Number one, various size
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and lengths of paper thin material that looked like aluminum foil,
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that could be cut, could not be burned, could not
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be dented with a sixteen pound sledgehammer. That's debris number one.
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Degree number two is the so called memory metal, which
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Don Schmidt and Tom Cary have been looking for for decades,
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and we want to put a call out to anyone
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listening to this broadcast if you or someone you know
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has a piece of Roswell debris, whether it be the
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small paper thin aluminum material, the memory metal that you
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could crumple up into a ball and then when you
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let it go over a table it would spread out
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like liquid mercury. That's debris number two. Debris number three
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was various lengths of small I beam with pastel kind
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of like violet symbols written on the inside wall of
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the eyebeam. Any one of those three please contact Carl Richardson.
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We want to preserve an important part of our national history.
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So in a nutshell, that was the initial case. Now,
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the main
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essentially from the northwest to the southeast. It was traveling
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eastbound before it impacted thirty five miles north of Roswell.
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There were two bodies that were ejected from the escape pod.
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That's the second body site. So there were five bodies
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recovered and one was still alive. So the main part
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of the craft, which was an escape pod the size
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of a Volkswagen. It was egg shaped, landed thirty five
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miles north of Roswell, where they found two more deceased
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ET bodies and a survivor.
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Did the survivor do you know, it's hard to say
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surviving any period of time or Yeah.
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We got that first hand from Marion Black mac magruder,
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who in April of nineteen forty eight was at Montgomery
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Field and he was called with his other fighter pilots
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for a special assignment at Wright Patterson Air Force Base.
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When they got there, they were brought into a room.
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There were two men with cardboard boxes that have walked
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into this room. So you can imagine the scene here.
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You've got like twenty four ACE pilots from World War Two,
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like the best of the best, are kind of sitting
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down in this room and these two guys walking with
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these cardboard boxes and they start handing out pieces of
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the Roswell debris. They wanted to get their reaction from
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seasoned World War two ACE fighter pilots couldn't handle this
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new reality. You know. It was like a trial balloon. Now,
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once that was done, the debris was put back into
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this box. They were led down a corridor. They made
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a left hand turn. Now they were at a room
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with a one way mirror, and Marion Black macmgruder saw
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the survivor. So he survived from at least July nineteen
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forty seven to April nineteen forty eight. He saw it
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in a one way mirror. He said, he looked squidly.
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It reminded him of Casper the Ghost. He had emaciated
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body features, his hands went
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had an oversized head, oversized eyes, and they also saw
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the additional deceased et corpses. So this is April nineteen
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forty eight at right Patterson Air Force Base.
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They kind of fit the profile of a standard gray
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more or less a.
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Little bit yep, kind of sort of like that. But
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they had a one piece, tight fitting flight suit when
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they recover. Now here's the thing, though. The crash took
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place on the night of July second, nineteen forty seven,
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So the bodies were sitting out in the desert and
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rotting and decomposing for the night of the second, the third,
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the fourth, the fifth, the sixth, into the night of
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the seventh. So you can see by the time they
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got there, these bodies were in bad shape.
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I'm not sure I would have wanted to smell it, but.
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Well, it's interesting you mentioned that, and this is what's
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talked about in Witness to Roswell, which I highly recommend.
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If you're skeptical about roswell, or you have a friend
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or family member that's skeptical about roswell, I highly recommend
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that book Witness to Roswell by Don Schmitt and Tom Carey.
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In that book, they specifically discuss what the pungent odor
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smelled like. People who are on the retrieval teams that
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were in proximity to these bodies. When they got home,
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they could absolutely not get that stench out of the clothes,
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and the wives had to burn their clothes. Now keep
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in mind, this is a weather balloon we're talking about here.
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According to the government, this is what the first hand
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military witnesses from the five or ninth bomb Group described.
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They don't describe by weather balloon. There'd be no reason
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to burn their clothes if it was a weather blown
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So we're talking about something different here.
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If you hit any illustrations you wanted the show too,
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you could do it now or if you wanted to
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hold off till later, I'll leave that.
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I'm fine sharing my screens.
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Okay, should we do that, Let's do it.
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Okay, we'll do it. Okay share screen share Okay, hopefully
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you can see that. Yes, slide show. I'm going to
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go from beginning here and that should make this large.
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Now if it doesn't, I'm going to go to the
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next side. I want to make sure it's tracking on
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your end. Okay. So do you see this one?
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Yes?
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Yeah, you do see that one.
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Okay.
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So the title of this is UFO Magical Mystery Tour.
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And what I've done with this presentation is these are
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the best of the best from all the university archives,
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all the private archives, q folks, nightcap files, mew fund files,
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personal files that were sent to me. I dug all
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this stuff up, I put it in a congruent timeline,
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I did an AutoCAD drawing of it, and then I
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did a three D full color rendering, and I commissioned
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people from all around the world to help me. So
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this is kind of what I call the UFO Magical
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Mystery Tour. Here a couple quick announcements. The visual aids
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using this presentation are computer generated forensic composite illustrations which
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originated from actual UFO case files and eyewitness reports. So
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here's where I got the information. Q Folks, ncap apro
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mupon Invisible Residents by Ivan T. Sanderson, Uninvited Guests by
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Richard Hall, National UFO Historical Record Center, UFO Newspaper Clipping,
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the Leonard Springfield Collection, Gray Barker UFO Collection, Boots on
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the Ground. And then through this presentation, I'm going to
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give you the dates, the times, the locations, the references
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where I got this, so that you can use the
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scientific principle and duplicate this on your own. I want
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to give you that opportunity so that you can verify this.
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So I thought we'll start here foo fighters aerial oddities
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of World War Two. We're going in ahead of the
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flying saucers that were reported in nineteen forty some. This
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is prior to that time with Kenneth Arnold. This is
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prior to that. The reference for this is Strange Company
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Military Encounters with UFOs. That's where I got the information,
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very good book. And this is Newcastle Sun, January third,
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nineteen forty five. And here they say foo fighters are
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latest pilots flying over Germany at night report that strange
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balls of fire are following them around on their missions.
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They have christened these strange phenomenon foo Fighters. So here
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we've got American B twenty nine bombers encountered Foo fighters
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over till thank you on May twenty third, nineteen forty three.
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So we've got Allied B seventeen's, we've got Allied B
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twenty four Liberators in the European theater, and then in
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the Pacific theater we had the B twenty nine bombers.
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So it was a combination of all three bombers April
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twenty sixth, nineteen forty four. And we'll just do a
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couple of these. Here. We've got an RIF Lancaster bomber
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with a six hundred and twenty second squadron encounters four
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glowing orbs with stubby wings while returning from a mission
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over Germany. So I love this Lancaster bomber.
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These are seasoned bomber pilots. No reason to lie. Now.
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What's interesting about these quote unquote food fighter sidings as
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when they opened up the fifty caliber weapons on these
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bombers and they saw the tracer rounds go into these
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food fighters. They absorbed the rounds, they did not go
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out through the other side. So whoever or whatever's building
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this had the technology to fly rings around our best
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aircraft and they could outfly, outpace and absorb the weapons.
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So I think it's interesting something to consider. A B
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seventeen bomber from the Fifth Air Force encountered a blue
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colored ball of fire over Unique, Germany on October twenty ninth,
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nineteen forty four. It's going to the next one. Here,
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this is another illustration. I mean, these bomber pilots are
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credible military witnesses. Here this is another illustration I've put together. Now,
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they were bombing the ball bearing factories and the oil refineries,
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encountering these strange lights that would come up to the squadron,
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fly around, then take off and skid out a lot
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of there. Here's another version here. This gives you a
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three quarter view on the right side of the B
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B seventeens on the night of May Tewod nineteen forty five,
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nine B twenty four Liberator bombers with the eleventh Bombardment
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Groups four hundred thirty first Squadron. We're flying over the
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Japanese island of truck Atoll. The bomber crews observed two
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cherry red orbs. So this is nineteen forty five. On
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July seventh, nineteen forty five, a B twenty nine bomber
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encountered a red colored glowing food fighter over the Japanese
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city of Cisibo. And we'll go into this one here.
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During the early nineteen fifties, there was an official order
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issued to Air Force pilots to shoot these flying saucers down.
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So this is Cincinnati Enquirer, July twenty ninth, nineteen fifty two,
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and they say here shoot saucers down. Jet pilots so
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ordered in twenty four hour era alert. So in the
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early nineteen fifties there was a standing order by the
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Air Force to our pilots to shoot these things down.
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Let's do a couple more newspaper clippings. Here it says
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jets keeping twenty four hour alert for saucers. Pilots order
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to down objects if they don't land. Next one on
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the saucer trail, Pilots told shoot them down. Jets on
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twenty four hour alert to shoot down saucers. So bottom
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line is these craft which are F ninety fours were
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encountering these dish shaped craft. They had gun cameras on them.
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But by nineteen fifty two, a couple of years into
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this order, they rescinded this order because there were multiple
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aircraft that were lost and multiple pilots that were lost,
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so they rescinded the order. Here here is a good
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shot of an F ninety four starfire. This is primarily
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the aircraft that was involved and these intempted UFO intercepts.
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There's essentially only two places in America. There might be
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a couple more, but I finally two where you can
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see one of these. The one on the left is
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the Pima Aerospace Museum in Arizona. That's basically in two sound,
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and it has the front rocket flaps in the closed position.
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If you want to see it with the open position,
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you got to go to the Air Force Museum in Dayton, Ohio,
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which you can spend a whole day there. So what
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00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:15.280
I wanted to do is I commission my good friend
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00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:18.559
Rudy Guardea. He gets credit for the drawing here. But
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this is one of these intercepts. And this went on
518
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multiple times during the early nineteen fifties. So here is
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my full color rendering to give people an idea what
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00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:31.920
this look like over Washington, d C. This is confirmed
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on radar. This happened many times, many times, and we
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lost aircraft and pilots, which the Air Force does not
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want to talk about that. They want to essentially keep
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it under wraps.
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I'm sure they do that.
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Sure they do. And because they don't want to admit
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that they're not in control of the skies, they can't
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do anything. We put up our best fighters and it
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was no match. I have to highlight this book, Shoot
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Them Down The Flying Saucer Air Wars of teen fifty
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two by my very good friend Frank Fashino, who's probably
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the world's expert on the attempted pilot UFO intercepts in
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the nineteen fifties and also the Flatwoods Monster case of
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nineteen fifty two. He's the world's expert. There's no one
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00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:20.800
better in the world. He's the best of the best. Okay,
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00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:24.679
now we need to talk about this man right here.
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This is Gordon Cooper, and he had a number of
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UFO related events and we're going to talk about them here.
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I considered Gordon Cooper a reliable witness. He was a
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pilot and then he became an astronaut. He was one
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of the original Mercury seven astronauts. So a couple things here,
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bullet item number one. Number one, he wrote a personal
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letter to the United Nations regarding UFOs in nineteen seventy eight.
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Number two, he was involved in an attempted UFO intercept
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over West Germany in nineteen fifty one. And number three
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he was involved and if a UFO landing case at
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Edward's Air Force Base back in nineteen fifty seven. We're
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going to look at some of these here. All of
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this is highlighted in his book Leap of Faith and
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Astronauts Journey into the Unknown. So if you want to
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learn a little bit more about this, I just you
552
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:20.960
don't even have to buy it. Go to the library,
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local library. You can pick this up. And he goes
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into intricate detail on what these encounters were actually like.
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So let's go to the first one, nineteen fifty one,
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West Germany, and he's within Squadron mate here. Over two
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consecutive weekends there was reports from the meteorologist at the
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Air Force base, and this meteorologist kind of came up
559
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to these pilots and say, hey, guys, I've been seeing
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these dish shaped craft. They're metallic, they have a dome
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on top. It's been going on for two weeks. Why
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don't you guys try to intercept this. So Gordon went
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to his wingman and said, let's do it. So I'm
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in their F eighty six saber jets. They go up
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at a forty five degree angle. They tried to intercept
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these and there was no chance because whoever or whatever
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was flying these and remember these are about thirty foot diameter,
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dish shaped craft, metallic appearance, with the dome on top.
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They could make ninety degree left hand turns at high velocity,
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they could fly backwards, they could zip, and they could
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fly to the right. It's like they conquered gravity. It
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was not an issue
to them. Gordon Cooper could not
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intercept them. This is another version I put together here.
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This gives you an idea what this might have looked like.
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Now they didn't get quite this close, but this just
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gives you an idea of F eighty six as trying
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to intercept these craft. Here we'll go to the newspaper, clicking.
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I'm not going to read the whole thing. But this
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is Corvellis Gazette Times, October eleventh, two thousand and four.
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Here it says earlier in nineteen fifty one, Cooper and
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other persons several times cited an entire formation of circular
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objects passing over their Air Force base in Western Germany.
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Quote we never could get close enough in our saber
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jets to pin them down, but they were round in
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shape and very metallic looking. Direct quote from Gordon Cooper.
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All right, May twenty fifth, nineteen fifty five, between EPSOM
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and Dunsford, England. You've got a four range and civilian
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airliner here encountering this cigar shaped craft with kind of
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pointed ends. We'll go to Flying Saucer News and this
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is interesting article. Here they interview pilot and co pilot.
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This is summer nineteen fifty five. It says flight engineer
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Jose Elva said, quote the objects seem to approach from
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the port side and pass right under our nose. To me,
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it looked like a silver cigar. There was no smoke
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trail from it. The radio office Jo Almidez said that
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the object was traveling at a terrific speed. This is
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nineteen fifty five. And that in all his nine years
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of flying he had never seen anything like it. It
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looked as though it was made out of aluminum, he said. So,
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now we've got some type of cigar shaped craft that
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looks like it has conquered or negated gravity nineteen fifty five,
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and it's making these incredible maneuvers here. Now let's go here,
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which I think is one of my favorite cases. This
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is the RB thirty six case late nineteen fifty six
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over South Dakota. Now keep in mind you've got six
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turning and four burning, which means you've got six reciprocal
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engines which are pushers, and then you've got four outrigger
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jet engines. And we're talking about a massive RB thirty
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six here. This thing is just huge, according to the
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Air Force officer who was the primary eyewitness, Now there
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were sixteen crew members aboard this RB thirty seve and
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they're flying at twenty four thousand feet over South Dakota.
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He said. They were all issued still cameras, and a
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one hundred foot diameter dish shaped craft pull up alongside
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the RB thirty six and parked itself off the left wing,
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one hundred feet off the left wing at close range.
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So a number of these crew members went up into
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the greenhouse of the RB thirty six, which is the cockpit.
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This is the enlargement that I had Rudy do here.
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And since they were all issued still cameras, they were
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snapping away photographs. They got this thing at close range. Now,
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when the RB thirty six landed, they were debriefed and
623
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all of that film was confiscated. So I'm asking the question,
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in these UFO Trump tranches that have been dropped from
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the Trump administration, why are we getting balloons and birds
626
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and blurs? Why aren't we getting this type of information.
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That's a good question.
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You know, we as taxpayers, this information and these photographs
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were procured you tax using taxpayer dollars. We have every
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right to demand We're not going to request it. We're
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going to demand that this kind of footage be declassified.
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So I don't know what Trump needs to do, but
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this needs to happen now. We're not going to accept
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any more of these ridiculous releases. We're just getting balloons
635
00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:32.519
and birds. We want the hard physical evidence. We want
636
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:37.280
the gun camera footage. We want up close, unambiguous photographs,
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00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:39.719
just like you see here. This thing was one hundred
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feet off the left wing at close ranch.
These photographs
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have to be absolutely miraculous looking. This is a daytime
640
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sighting one hundred foot silver metallic dish shaped craft with
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a dome on top. I implore President Trump to demand
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this from either the Pentagon Wright Patterson Air Force Base.
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The CIA has an archive one of these locations where
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they keep these files. Here all right, next one, this
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00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:15.159
is the other UFO incident that involved Gordon Cooper. So
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nineteen fifty seven Edwards Air Force Base. Now, they were
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filming the installation of precision landing equipment and they had
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camera crew there. According to Gordon Cooper, a thirty foot
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diameter dish shaped craft hovered over the dry lake bed.
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It extended three tripod landing gear legs set on the
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dry lake bed for thirty seconds, hovered back up, landing
652
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:42.599
gear retracted into the bottom of the craft, and then
653
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the craft flew away. So this is my best rendition
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of what that looks like now. He also said that
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they got it all caught on motion picture film reel.
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That's the film was brought back to Edward's Air Force Base.
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Gordon Cooper examine the film it was of good quality.
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He did not run it through a projector. Now the
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next thing that happened now, I got this from my
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good friend Tony Tony Corbo. I want to give him credit.
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He interviewed Gordon Cooper long time ago. I believe this
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is at Reno. So here here is a second hand
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individual who interviewed the first hand witness. So we're almost
664
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we're basically just one removed here. He said that it
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was the base commander that took that film back to
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write Patterson Air Force Base and it could still be
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there now. So I am absolutely requesting and demanding, and
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everybody else should too, because your tax dollars went into
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this and paid for this. We demand that this film
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that Gordon Cooper specifically mentioned be declassified immediately, absolutely immediately.
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No more playing around the bush here, no more kicking
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the can down the road trying to time out the witnesses.
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See what they've done. It's obvious, Carl. What they've done
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is they have timed out the original five oh ninth
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bomb group witnesses, anyone who was a first hand witness
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of Roswell, They're all dead.
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Yeah.
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Is convenient that over the past couple of years. We've
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been having these congressional hearings with these quote unquote whistleblowers.
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Why didn't you do this when those five oh ninth
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Bomb Group members were still alive. They could have been
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brought into the halls of Congress and this would have
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been live on CNN. This had been live all around
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the world, and they could have told their story. But
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they waited conveniently for all these five oh ninth Bomb
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Group members to pass away. So in their eyes, it's
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cover up complete. But we're not going to let them
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get away with this. Yeah, not to let them get
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away with this.
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I want my print. That's why I want my print.
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I want my print, and I want my motion picture
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film reel. Okay, all right, So here's what the craft
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looked like when it landed. Now, you know, I'm doing
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the best I can with what we've got. It probably
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didn't look exactly like this, but probably something close to this,
696
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something like this. But they've got it. Gordon Cooper held
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it in his hands. It was of good quality. He's
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got it. So here is that article again, and here's
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what Gordon Cooper says. He says Cooper saw the film
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as soon as it was rushed through the development process. Quote,
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it was a typical circular shape UFO. He recollected not
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too many people saw it because it took off at
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quite a sharp angle and just climbed straight out of sight.
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He reviewed the film a dozen times before it was
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forwarded to Washington, never to resurface. And so that's where
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we come in, right as concern taxpayers,
it is our
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constitutional obligation to question authority. And so what that means is,
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if you extrapolate this to its furthest extent, it means
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that the air Force doesn't own anything. They don't own
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the aircraft, they don't own the buildings, they don't own
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the maintenance facilities, they don't own the runways. They don't
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pay the employees. We do. We're the taxpayers. We own
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that film. We have every right to question authority because
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it's our constitutional obligation. So I'm putting up these representatives, right,
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I mean, we have every right to Anna Pauline A
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Luna needs to run to ground. I've already done the
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work for them, you know, like I shouldn't have to
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do their work for them, but I will do it
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anyway because I'm committed to this. It's a crusade, and
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I will go down with the ship if I have to.
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But again, I've already given the dates, given the locations.
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They've got more unlimited funding than I do. I'm just
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working on a shoe string budget here. They've got million
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dollar budgets over there. They should have no problem running
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this to ground TIMBERSA needs to get on this immediately.
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Eric Berlason needs to get on this immediately. I've given
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them the dates, the times, in the location, so they
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have no problem following this. Where are our representatives in Washington, DC?
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Why aren't they going after this film and other gun
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camera films recorded by Air Force pilots during the early
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nineteen fifties. That's the question we need to ask.
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Absolutely. Let's hold right there. I need to do a break,
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and then we'll come back and continue your own with
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your presentation.
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Okay, sun down on a walking through the sun quets,
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crash faded, don't loop back.
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I would probably.
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Again, This is Dark Spaces News. I'm Joshua Stark. Astronomers
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may have found the clearest evidence yet of a moonlike
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object beyond our solar system,
but this potential moon is
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unlike anything in our own cosmic neighborhood. This unusual system
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is located about seventy two light years from Earth and
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centers on a brown dwarf called ceed Dash thirty five
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two seven two to be brown. Brown dwarfs are objects
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larger than planets, but not massive enough to become true stars.
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Researchers using the very Large telescope in Chile detected signs
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that the brown dwarf is being orbited by at least
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one massive satellite. The leading candidate has a minimum mass
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roughly three quarters that of Jupiter and takes about one
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hundred and sixty nine days to complete an orbit that
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would make it enormous compared with every moon in our
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Solar system. In fact, scientists aren't even sure it could
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be called a moon because the object is so massive.
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Researchers are using the more general term exo satellite. The
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evidence comes from subtle changes in the brown dwarf's motion,
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detected through radial velocity measurements. These changes suggest the gravitational
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pull of an orbiting body. The discovery is significant because,
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despite thousands of confirmed exoplanets, no moon outside our Solar
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system has ever been confidently confirmed. Scientists say the system
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could offer a new window into how unusual planetary systems form.
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The massive satellite may have formed alongside the brown dwarf,
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or it could have been captured later. Catch up with
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The fourteen hundred and seventy eight piece set recreates FBI
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Want to Believe poster pencils stuck in the ceiling and
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other details fans will recognize. The set also features a
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forest clearing with a hovering UFO, allowing collectors to display
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the scenes together or separately. Eight many figures are included,
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Dark Spaces News, Oh.
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My what.
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You're listening to? Midnight Frequency Radio with Carl Richardson Exploring
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the Unknown on the night Watch Digital Network. Michael, Welcome
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back to Midnight fragrancy radio.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, we can continue on with the display.
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Now, Okay, fine, we'll move on here, all right, So
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let's go on to the USSFDR. This is November nineteen
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fifty eight, Guantano Bay, Cuba. A couple of things to
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talk about before we get into this. Number one, the
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USSFDR was the first aircraft carrier to carry nuclear weapons
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on board. Number two, it had a history of UFO sightings,
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all right, So it was at night when there was
807
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commotion below decks, so you can kind of picture this
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aircraft carrier here at night. And then people were screaming
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and yelling and rushing and climbing up ladders and there
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was chaos and men were swearing and just yelling. It
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was a chaotic scene. When they got to the flight
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deck here they saw something incredible. And I'll picture this
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at night. And this is the original sketch from the
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primary eye witness. His name is Chester Grazinsky. He's no
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longer with us. This is his original sketch on MUFHON
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report and this was filed August eighth, nineteen seventy eight.
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At least twenty five naval personnel, including Chester Grazinski, saw
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a yellow light approaching the aircraft carrier. As it got closer,
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This was really no yellow light. This was a two
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hundred foot long cigar shaped craft that had a series
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of rectangular windows on one side of the craft itself. Now,
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they said that they could feel the heat emanating off this.
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Now you can see that on his sketch. Here he's
824
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got these lines coming off. So right away, it's a
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close encounter of the first kind according to Jalen Heinech,
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because it's a visual sighting. Number two, it's a close
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encounter of the second kind because it had physical effects.
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They could feel it on their faces. Now, I'm going
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to go on to the next slide here and we'll
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do a blow up of his sketch. Now what you
831
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can see here in the enlargement on the bottom. He
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said that through these windows he could see what looked
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like humanoid beings. There were more than one, because he
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used the term plural. They were walking back and forth
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between these windows, and one of them held up its
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hand above its head and was waving to the nable
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personnel backdown on the aircraft carrier. I just love this case. Now,
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as this thing departed, it
kind of turned an orangice
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color and departed at an extremely high rate of speed
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with no sonic boom. And this is late nineteen fifty
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eight Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. So whoever or whatever had this technology,
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they were able to exceed the speed of sound without
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creating a sonic boom back in nineteen fifty eight. So
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of course we had to do a full color illustration.
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And here's what we came up with. So I want
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to give credit to all my artists that have helped
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me on this, and they've done, you know, just a
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really good job. This is Tom Bogan's illustration. Want to
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give him credit. We'll do a blow up here so
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that you can see this being waving back at the
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flight crew. Now they've got records for this, it's in
852
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the logbook, but of course all that's been taken away.
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So this is another case of good evidence seen by
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multiple credible witnesses that they just love to make this
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evidence disappear, all right. Next one, Father gillis Siding June
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twenty sixth, nineteen fifty nine, Papua New Guinea. Here you
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see Father Gill in the foreground. Now there were at
858
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least twenty five other locals that saw this as well,
859
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:09.440
and what he described is a thirty five foot diameter
860
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dish shaped craft. The bottom of it looked like a
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two tiered wedding cake. So the bottom of the craft
862
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was thirty five feet in diameter, the upper section was
863
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twenty feet in diameter. There were four prongs sticking out
864
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of this, which I don't think were landing your legs.
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He also said that there were four humanoid looking beings
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on the top deck of this craft. They did not
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look like aliens. They looked like humans. They were wearing
868
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a one piece type fitting flight suit. Two of them
869
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were near the front edge of the top deck of
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the craft itself. The other two were more obscured in
871
00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:49.119
the background and looked like they were repairing some type
872
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:52.119
of mechanical equipment. I'm going to blow this up here
873
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:54.199
a little bit so you can kind of This is
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my second version that gives you an idea what this
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00:57:56.320 --> 00:57:59.679
may have looked like. Now. He also had two way
876
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:03.760
communitmunication with the beings on this He had a lantern
877
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that he moved and the craft responded, and then he
878
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also waved and they waved back. So the second name
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of this case is not just the father Gill case,
880
00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:16.960
but they also call it they waved back. That's really
881
00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:19.880
the name of this case. Here here's the blow up
882
00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:23.800
of this craft itself and you can see the looks
883
00:58:23.840 --> 00:58:26.119
like four men on top, with more two of them
884
00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:30.519
were more obscured. Now, off to the right of the craft,
885
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:34.559
there was a white slash blue being that went up
886
00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:36.920
at a forty five degree angle. They also reported that
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00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:40.440
as well. Here's the map that shows you where all
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00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:42.360
this So this is Papua New Guinea. I'm going to
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00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:45.519
blow this up here. Here's another map that shows you
890
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:47.719
the location. I'm going to zoom in a little bit
891
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:52.000
closer so that we can get directly where this actually
892
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:56.159
took place. And then here's father Gill's original sketch. So
893
00:58:56.199 --> 00:58:58.400
you can see these prongs sticking out. You've got the
894
00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:02.880
forty five degree beam of light. You've got the four beings.
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This is International UFO Reporter, November nineteen seventy seven. Another
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00:59:08.400 --> 00:59:12.159
graphic illustration. You've got all these locals here that saw it,
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so it's not just Father Gil, but it's a multiple
898
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witness case. These are six hundred dpi scans of the
899
00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:24.079
exact location where this went down. Here, this is what
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the mission looks like it's a rather simple operation here
901
00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:31.480
and nothing super sophisticated. This is another view here. Let
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me do one more that gives you kind of sets
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the scene up. And then this is the beach where
904
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:40.320
this thing was hovering over, like plus or minus three
905
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hundred feet, so we're looking at pretty much the exact
906
00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:50.559
location where this took place. Again nineteen fifty nine, William B.
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00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:55.000
Gill brightly lit shaft of blue light shining upwards from
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00:59:55.039 --> 00:59:58.519
center about thirty five feet in diameter for the lower deck.
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00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:00.960
Upper deck was twenty feet, so it looked like a
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two tiered wedding cait distance was four hundred and fifty feet,
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01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:07.800
which is close range. That's close enough to get some
912
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:11.760
real good detail on it. This is another illustration here,
913
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and then I went ahead and did a color of
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01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:17.920
this just to give everyone idea what that might have
915
01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:20.960
looked like. And now we move on to this case.
916
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I wonder the patrician the patricians from the bottom of
917
01:00:25.480 --> 01:00:29.280
the craft, could they possibly be gravitational wave guides or
918
01:00:29.320 --> 01:00:30.440
something to that effect.
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01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:34.679
I think this is another example of these static electrical
920
01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:39.599
discharge probes. Okay, these prongs and protrusions sticking out of
921
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:44.320
these UFOs, Like, why deploy landing gear if you're not
922
01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:47.679
going to land you're over the ocean exactly. Yeah, it
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just doesn't make sense. So anyway, Maurice Mass July one,
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nineteen sixty five Vellen saw France and what you're looking
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01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:59.840
at here is an actual photograph of the man in question. Here,
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this is the man of the hour. This is Maurice Mass,
927
01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:07.039
and he's standing in the middle of his lavender field.
928
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He's got all these lavender plants here. The next thing
929
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he noticed is that he heard something behind him. So
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he turns around when we move on to the next slide,
931
01:01:18.159 --> 01:01:23.360
and he sees something very interesting, a thirteen foot long
932
01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:27.599
what looked like a rugby football with spider landing ear legs.
933
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There were six of them, with a protrusion sticking down.
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It had a hatch on the left side, and then
935
01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:35.480
like a crew compartment that swept back to the tail
936
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of the aircraft itself. Now, before he saw that, he
937
01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:44.519
also saw two humanoid looking beings, small statud wearing a
938
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one piece type fitting flight suit. They had oversized, had
939
01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:53.159
oversized eyes, and they were collecting lavender plants. So I've
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01:01:53.199 --> 01:01:57.880
got multiple
cases of UFO occupants that seemed to be
941
01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:02.880
interested in our agriculture. Like many cases, they're picking grass,
942
01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:06.760
they're picking the lavender, they're picking flowers. Are they interested
943
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:12.039
in our agriculture? And I thought it's very interesting where
944
01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:16.880
Steven Spielberg in his movie Et, the first five minutes
945
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of that film is devoted to Et trying to save
946
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a plant. It's like, what is the interest that they have?
947
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There must be some kind of connection there. This is
948
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another view of the craft itself. Now, Maurice Mass got
949
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real close to these beings. One of them picked up
950
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what looked like a doll rod about two inches in
951
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diameter sixteen inches in length, and he pointed that doll
952
01:02:41.960 --> 01:02:45.280
rod toward Maurice Mass and there was an energy being
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01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:49.119
that came out, struck him, put him in a state
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01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:52.559
of you could call it stasis, where he couldn't move,
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01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:56.679
but he could still see the beings. They went into
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01:02:56.760 --> 01:02:59.800
the side of the craft, the hatch closed, and then
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01:02:59.840 --> 01:03:03.440
the thing took off. I consider him a reliable witness.
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01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:05.679
And there's a number of reasons why I'm going to
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01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:07.079
move on to the next one here. This gives you
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01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:09.960
an idea of what this may have looked like during
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01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:12.559
the Maurice Mass encounter here and this is all an
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01:03:12.599 --> 01:03:17.960
Eleavender plant Field of all places, Boston Globe, July eighth,
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01:03:18.079 --> 01:03:21.519
nineteen sixty five, flying saucer or secret plane. They go
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01:03:21.599 --> 01:03:25.440
into great detail on this case in this newspaper clipping here.
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01:03:25.559 --> 01:03:32.119
Now we move on to my personal favorite Project blue bookcase. Now,
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01:03:32.239 --> 01:03:35.480
Project blue Book was the Air Force investigation that started
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01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:37.840
in nineteen forty seven. It went all the way to
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01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:40.119
nineteen sixty nine and then they closed it all down.
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01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:42.880
But there were a number of cases, at least seven
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01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:46.039
hundred and one cases that were never explained that they
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01:03:46.159 --> 01:03:48.880
just could not explain away. This was not balloons or
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01:03:48.960 --> 01:03:52.760
birds or sightings of venus. This is something else here now,
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01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:56.559
of all those cases, personally, I believe this is the
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01:03:56.719 --> 01:04:00.719
highest level of credibility. It's the most powerful one. And
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01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:03.840
again this is not my case. This is an official
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01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:10.679
US Air Force Project blue bookcase. March twenty third, nineteen
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01:04:10.800 --> 01:04:15.519
sixty six, near Temple, Oklahoma. Our witness is a man
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01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:19.239
named Eddie Lasen. He was a private pilot. He was
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01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:22.719
a flight instructor. He had eight thousand hours pilot in command.
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01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:26.679
He was an aircraft recognition expert, and he was an
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01:04:26.719 --> 01:04:31.920
electrical technician instructor at Shepherd Air Force Base. This is
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01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:34.360
a credible witness. You could not ask for a better guy.
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01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:37.440
So he's driving at five oh five in the morning
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01:04:37.639 --> 01:04:41.679
on his commute to Shepherd Air Force Base. The sun
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01:04:41.800 --> 01:04:43.519
was coming up over the horizon, but it was still
986
01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:46.880
a little bit dark out, and he said that something
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01:04:47.199 --> 01:04:51.360
was blocking the road. And this craft looked all the
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01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:56.440
world like an overturned bowling pin sitting ninety degrees crossing
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01:04:56.559 --> 01:05:00.000
perpendicular to the roadway. So he kind of slammed up
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01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.079
on the brakes and he described it as follows number one.
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01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:06.400
This craft was seventy five feet in length, a minimum
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01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:09.159
of eight feet tall. On the far right hand side
993
01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:10.880
of the craft, it looked like it had a bubble
994
01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:13.920
transparent canopy taken directly off of B twenty six bomber
995
01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:16.679
for World War II. The whole thing was standing on
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01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:19.960
pogo landing your legs three feet off the asphalt road.
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01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:24.840
There were two beaming spotlights shining forward, two beaming spotlights
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01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:29.280
shining vertically downward, and then there was an air stair door.
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01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:34.239
And then he said there was a man standing next
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01:05:34.280 --> 01:05:38.039
to this stairway. This was not an alien. This is
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01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:41.239
not an extraterrestrial. This was a human. This was a man.
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01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:45.360
He was wearing a two piece green military fatigues. He
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01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:48.199
had a baseball cap with the bill turned up. He
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01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:52.000
was shining a flashlight at the bottom of the stairs.
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01:05:52.079 --> 01:05:55.679
Now above the stairs and aft on the top of
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01:05:55.679 --> 01:05:59.760
the craft itself, there was a stinger or spire that
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01:05:59.840 --> 01:06:05.079
swept back to an eight inch diameter sphere. Just aft
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01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:07.440
of the airstair door. On the right hand side, there
1009
01:06:07.519 --> 01:06:10.519
was a circular porthole window that was three and a
1010
01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:13.719
half feet in diameter that was divided into four equal
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01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:19.599
pie segments. Now just aft of that porthole window were
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01:06:19.639 --> 01:06:25.599
the letters written in black vertically TL four to seven
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01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:29.760
six eight, and I have a one hundred dollars cash
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01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:34.760
reward for anyone on this planet that can tell me
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01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:39.559
and prove to me with documented physical evidence what that means.
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01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:42.360
I don't know what TL four seven six eight. I've
1017
01:06:42.400 --> 01:06:44.880
been trying to track it down for years. There might
1018
01:06:44.920 --> 01:06:47.159
be someone out there that does. Now I think what
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01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:49.880
it is, which I don't know for sure. I think
1020
01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:55.719
it's an Atomic Energy Commission registration number. It was the
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01:06:55.840 --> 01:07:01.280
US Navy in conjunction with the AECOM Energy Commission, because
1022
01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:03.920
these you know, some of these things are nuclear and
1023
01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:07.599
a lot of the programs that were procured with the
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01:07:07.639 --> 01:07:12.400
atomic bomb, they already had classifications stamped on that. So
1025
01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:16.920
they leapfrogged those engineers into a lot of these programs
1026
01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:21.920
in conjunction with Lawrence Livermore Laboratories, Los Alamos, AEC in
1027
01:07:21.960 --> 01:07:24.840
the United States Navy. That's who I think is driving
1028
01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:28.880
the cover up and the research organization. So if anyone
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01:07:29.000 --> 01:07:32.159
knows what that actually means, let me know. And you
1030
01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:34.599
get a hundred bucks. I know it's not much, but
1031
01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:37.320
we're operating on a shoestring budget here. Now, at the
1032
01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:42.000
very end of this craft there were control surfaces that
1033
01:07:42.039 --> 01:07:47.599
were way too small to be aerodynamically efficient. Now, Eddie
1034
01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:51.760
Laxon was walking back to the trunk of the vehicle.
1035
01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:53.599
He had a camera. He was going to snap a
1036
01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:57.400
shot of this thing. As he did that, the man,
1037
01:07:57.519 --> 01:07:59.440
I remember we're talking about a man here, he was
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01:07:59.440 --> 01:08:03.159
not an ailing. He scurried up these airstair doors. And
1039
01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:07.280
then the report says there was a high pitched drilling
1040
01:08:07.400 --> 01:08:12.639
noise like something was spooling up like a Whimshurst generator
1041
01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:17.720
or something. The whole craft levitates off the pavement, the
1042
01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:20.760
landing gear legs retract into the bottom of the craft.
1043
01:08:21.760 --> 01:08:24.640
It sits there for like thirty seconds and then departs
1044
01:08:24.680 --> 01:08:27.920
like a spark on a grinding wheel and makes no
1045
01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:31.600
sonic boom. So bottom line is that we had the
1046
01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:36.800
technology in nineteen sixty six. Two looks like go exo
1047
01:08:36.800 --> 01:08:41.720
atmospheric and don't create a sonic foot footprint sonic boom footprint.
1048
01:08:42.079 --> 01:08:45.000
So we had the technology to do away with liquid
1049
01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:48.479
and solid rockets by at least nineteen sixty six. Okay,
1050
01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:53.079
Now this is Eddie Leason's original drawing, and you can
1051
01:08:53.119 --> 01:08:56.399
see he's got dimensions here seventy five feet, it's eight
1052
01:08:56.439 --> 01:08:59.600
feet tall. He's got the bright lights, he's got the
1053
01:08:59.760 --> 01:09:02.760
X marks the spot where the man was, we've got
1054
01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:05.279
the airstair door, and we've got the TL four seven
1055
01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:09.479
six eight. Now, if you look at this drawing by
1056
01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:14.520
Eddie Lason, and you look at the dimensions here given,
1057
01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:17.359
if this thing is seventy five feet in length and
1058
01:09:17.399 --> 01:09:21.600
it's eight feet tall, then the entire left end of
1059
01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:24.600
the craft needs to be stretched out way to the left.
1060
01:09:24.640 --> 01:09:28.560
This thing is out of scale. I'm cutting him a
1061
01:09:28.560 --> 01:09:30.760
brake because he was dealing with an eight and a
1062
01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:33.680
half by eleven sheet of paper. It wasn't to scale
1063
01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:37.600
because he was scrunched and was conformed and confined to
1064
01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:40.720
just an eighth size sheet of paper. I understand what
1065
01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:44.159
he did. So I spent a day looking over the case,
1066
01:09:44.399 --> 01:09:49.279
reading the report, looking at his testimony, and really studying it,
1067
01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:51.800
and came up with this drawing, which is a much
1068
01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:55.119
more accurate representation of what he actually saw. Now, a
1069
01:09:55.159 --> 01:09:59.039
couple things I want to talk about. Eddie Lason said
1070
01:09:59.079 --> 01:10:03.199
that he could feel the hair on his arm standing up,
1071
01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:08.479
so within this localized area he was permeated in a
1072
01:10:08.520 --> 01:10:13.640
static electrical field. Number Two, there was what looked like
1073
01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:21.000
naval Admiral Chevron's on this guy's shoulders here, which is
1074
01:10:21.079 --> 01:10:25.199
screaming the man made
technology. Number Three, he said that
1075
01:10:25.359 --> 01:10:29.359
if he was in Oklahoma City that afternoon and this
1076
01:10:29.439 --> 01:10:32.479
guy was there, he would recognize him. That's how close
1077
01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:36.439
he was to this guy whoever was shining that flashlight.
1078
01:10:37.079 --> 01:10:38.600
He was that close to him. I'm going to move
1079
01:10:38.640 --> 01:10:41.119
on to the next slide here. Now let's go back
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01:10:41.159 --> 01:10:44.159
to this stinger or spire we were talked about this earlier.
1081
01:10:44.760 --> 01:10:49.600
Every single feature on these UFOs there's a reason for it.
1082
01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:52.359
It's not pap hazard. There is a form, fit and
1083
01:10:52.439 --> 01:10:55.960
function to everything on these vehicles. So I started looking
1084
01:10:55.960 --> 01:11:00.319
at this, and I'm thinking, what in God's name is
1085
01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:03.600
a prong with a ball sticking out of these UFOs
1086
01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:06.680
and it keeps on popping up over and over and
1087
01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:11.880
over again. Do aliens really need this where they stamp
1088
01:11:12.680 --> 01:11:16.199
markings on the side of their craft with American letters?
1089
01:11:16.840 --> 01:11:19.760
What's going on here? So I started looking at high
1090
01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:23.720
voltage electrical equipment. And if you look at a Wimshurst
1091
01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:27.119
generator on this picture to the right here, you've got
1092
01:11:27.159 --> 01:11:30.520
these prongs sticking out of the Wimshurst generator and at
1093
01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:33.199
the end of the prong there's a ball. There's a sphere,
1094
01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:38.720
and these are static electrical discharge spheres. So I am proposing,
1095
01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:41.279
which I think it's more than a proposal. I think
1096
01:11:41.319 --> 01:11:44.279
it's a legitimate theory that what we're looking at on
1097
01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:48.600
a lot of these UFOs are these static electrical discharge spheres.
1098
01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:52.239
Because the witnesses say that there was a static electrical
1099
01:11:52.359 --> 01:11:54.840
charge and their hair stood up on their arms, it's
1100
01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:59.000
all checking the boxes. It's completely checking the boxes. Here.
1101
01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:03.119
Now here is the original map drawn by Eddie Lason.
1102
01:12:03.239 --> 01:12:06.760
So you've got Highway sixty five and Highway seventy. This
1103
01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:10.800
is not too far from Oklahoma City. And you can
1104
01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:14.880
see that his map indicates that it's approximately one half
1105
01:12:15.039 --> 01:12:19.359
mile west of that intersection. This is his original sketch here.
1106
01:12:19.560 --> 01:12:22.359
So of course I went on to the computer, and
1107
01:12:23.439 --> 01:12:26.800
if you go one half mile west from the intersection
1108
01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:30.359
of Highway sixty five and seventy, I'm going to move
1109
01:12:30.399 --> 01:12:32.720
on to the next slide. What you're going to see
1110
01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:37.039
is this right here. So if we could be here
1111
01:12:37.159 --> 01:12:41.279
on the night of March twenty third, nineteen sixty six,
1112
01:12:42.319 --> 01:12:44.640
and we were standing right here, and I believe we
1113
01:12:44.680 --> 01:12:47.600
are plus or minus ten feet where this actually took place,
1114
01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:50.520
we would be looking directly at that side of the
1115
01:12:50.560 --> 01:12:53.479
craft with the TL four seven six eight written on
1116
01:12:53.520 --> 01:12:55.479
the side of it. We'd be right here, Carl, this
1117
01:12:55.520 --> 01:13:01.079
is where we'd be, So you could be here. I
1118
01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:04.039
wish we could go back in time and get some
1119
01:13:04.159 --> 01:13:07.119
flash photos of it where we could see this man.
1120
01:13:07.399 --> 01:13:13.840
And I am certain that elements within the military industrial
1121
01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:18.680
complex they know all about this. They know algy, they
1122
01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:23.319
know about the technology trail, they know about the defense contractors,
1123
01:13:23.359 --> 01:13:28.439
they know about the national laboratories that built the propulsion system,
1124
01:13:29.119 --> 01:13:31.399
they know about the flight crew. And I don't even
1125
01:13:31.399 --> 01:13:33.800
think this was the pilot. I think this is a
1126
01:13:33.880 --> 01:13:37.119
maintenance personnel. The pilot was still in the crew compartment.
1127
01:13:37.680 --> 01:13:40.279
I think this is not even the pilot of the craft. Right,
1128
01:13:40.359 --> 01:13:44.159
let's move on here. So this is the official Project
1129
01:13:44.199 --> 01:13:46.239
blue Book index card. I'm not going to read the
1130
01:13:46.279 --> 01:13:48.520
whole thing, but just the first two sentences here. This
1131
01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:52.479
is official Project blue Book. It says observer spotted object
1132
01:13:52.600 --> 01:13:57.199
parked on highway in front of his car. Observer stopped
1133
01:13:57.199 --> 01:14:01.039
car and got out to investigate. But as he got
1134
01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:04.760
close to the object, a man, not an alien, It says,
1135
01:14:04.760 --> 01:14:08.680
a man apparently entered the object, and immediately the object
1136
01:14:08.720 --> 01:14:11.399
began to rise from the ground. All right, let's move
1137
01:14:11.439 --> 01:14:15.239
on here. This is Lawton Morning Press, March twenty fourth,
1138
01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:21.239
nineteen sixty six, says templeman meets UFO on highway. Wichita
1139
01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:25.560
Falls Times, March twenty third, nineteen sixty six. Strange flying
1140
01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:29.159
objects sighted. Okay, move on to the next one. Here,
1141
01:14:29.199 -->
01:14:32.760
a couple of bullet items. William Eddie Laxon was a
1142
01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:35.960
pilot since nineteen forty one. He had eight thousand hours
1143
01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:39.039
of flight time. He taught a course in Aircraft recognition
1144
01:14:39.159 --> 01:14:42.800
number two. Object rose from the ground with the sound
1145
01:14:42.920 --> 01:14:46.920
of a high speed electric drill, hissing geese, or of
1146
01:14:46.920 --> 01:14:52.159
a welding torch. Other witnesses describe it as bacon frying
1147
01:14:52.199 --> 01:14:55.840
on a platter. Okay, I just love these descriptions here.
1148
01:14:56.079 --> 01:14:59.479
So you've got this high pitched drilling noise just before
1149
01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:03.000
this UF takes off. The craft caused the hair on
1150
01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:05.920
his arms and head to stand up. Yet we talked
1151
01:15:05.920 --> 01:15:09.600
about the static electrical field. The man standing next to
1152
01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:13.159
the craft was wearing Gi fatigues and had chevrons on
1153
01:15:13.239 --> 01:15:17.840
his uniforms. So now we're talking about military rank the
1154
01:15:17.960 --> 01:15:22.960
ranking guy, right, Yeah, yep, okay. Laxon stated that he
1155
01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:27.359
would quote recognize the man if he saw him in
1156
01:15:27.479 --> 01:15:32.279
Oklahoma City tomorrow. So let's see, how how close do
1157
01:15:32.319 --> 01:15:34.800
you have to beat to someone to recognize them if
1158
01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:38.439
you're standing away. Well, I don't know what that number is.
1159
01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:41.920
He was pretty close, pretty close.
1160
01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:44.760
Right to recognize what he looked like the next day, Yeah,
1161
01:15:45.119 --> 01:15:47.640
all right, So I think we got a world exclusive
1162
01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:50.319
here thanks to Monty Earwood. Want to give him credit.
1163
01:15:51.159 --> 01:15:55.319
And he went all the way to the Philippines, sent
1164
01:15:55.359 --> 01:15:59.039
the blueprints out and they made they made this model
1165
01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:02.479
for me and he helped make this here, so I
1166
01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:04.880
want to give credit. Now it has lights on the inside,
1167
01:16:05.359 --> 01:16:07.600
and I'm not saying this is perfect, but this gives
1168
01:16:07.640 --> 01:16:10.239
people an idea of what Eddie lex and encountered back
1169
01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:13.359
in nineteen sixty six. So we've got the spire, We've
1170
01:16:13.399 --> 01:16:16.560
got the porthole window. I put the TL four seven
1171
01:16:16.680 --> 01:16:18.359
six eight on the side of the craft. We've got
1172
01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:21.680
the air stair door. The lights on the bottom go
1173
01:16:21.720 --> 01:16:23.560
on to the next side. Here, this is almost a
1174
01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:28.399
direct side view from a fifteen degree overhead looking down.
1175
01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:31.239
We've got the landing gear legs. We'll do one more here.
1176
01:16:31.279 --> 01:16:33.720
We've got the control surfaces on the f side of
1177
01:16:33.760 --> 01:16:36.920
the craft. And then this is what that porthole window
1178
01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:39.760
look like. Here, this is what the stairs looks like. So,
1179
01:16:40.079 --> 01:16:42.760
I mean, it would be so cool to see this
1180
01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:45.039
guy running up these stairs. I would love it. I
1181
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:47.920
would love it again. I got one hundred dollars cash reward.
1182
01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:51.119
Anyone who knows what this means and can prove it
1183
01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:55.640
with documented paperwork. Boom, we got you covered. These are
1184
01:16:55.680 --> 01:16:58.399
the control surfaces, which I don't think have anything to
1185
01:16:58.439 --> 01:17:00.680
do with aerodynamics whatsoever.
1186
01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:02.199
Yeah, they're pretty small.
1187
01:17:02.399 --> 01:17:07.640
They're small. The Houston Post, April tenth, nineteen sixty six. Laxon,
1188
01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:11.439
who was familiar with aircraft, said he had no thoughts
1189
01:17:11.520 --> 01:17:14.960
about the craft being from outer space or even from
1190
01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:19.720
another country. Quote, it's an American piece of machinery, he said.
1191
01:17:19.800 --> 01:17:24.039
It's nothing foreign. This is coming from a credible witness.
1192
01:17:24.039 --> 01:17:28.199
Something considered here all right, The Daily Oklahoma, March first,
1193
01:17:28.319 --> 01:17:31.600
nineteen seventy one. And on the upper right you see
1194
01:17:31.720 --> 01:17:34.000
Eddie Lackson. That is the man of the hour. Here
1195
01:17:34.479 --> 01:17:40.439
the bottom is another sketcher. But it says citing now rude, okay.
1196
01:17:40.640 --> 01:17:44.720
In other words, Eddie Lackson, when he talked about this,
1197
01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:49.760
he was ridiculed, he was condescended to, he was made
1198
01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:53.920
fun of, he was laughed at, and he regretted ever
1199
01:17:54.159 --> 01:17:58.600
even coming forward. And what that does It actually adds
1200
01:17:58.760 --> 01:18:02.560
credibility to the case. It does not detract credibility. It
1201
01:18:02.600 --> 01:18:05.920
actually adds more credibility to the craft. Here to the case,
1202
01:18:07.079 --> 01:18:09.479
and here was another newspaper clipping here that says what
1203
01:18:09.560 --> 01:18:13.439
I saw was definitely not from space. The man was
1204
01:18:13.479 --> 01:18:16.640
wearing fatigues and had a cap with the bill broken
1205
01:18:16.760 --> 01:18:20.119
up like air Force mechanics were lex and said it
1206
01:18:20.239 --> 01:18:23.600
had common English letters on it. So, according to Eddie Lackson,
1207
01:18:24.079 --> 01:18:28.800
who is a very reliable witness, this was no alien spacecraft.
1208
01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:33.039
This was one of
ours. We had this technology in
1209
01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:36.840
nineteen sixty six. So I put this up here. We
1210
01:18:36.960 --> 01:18:43.000
should all consider very carefully the tremendous implications about what
1211
01:18:43.079 --> 01:18:45.600
that statement really means. What I'm referring to is what
1212
01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:50.520
Eddie Leason's assessment was right, Because if that's true, if
1213
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:57.520
what Eddie Laxon saw is actually true, then what was
1214
01:18:57.560 --> 01:19:00.800
all this for. If we already had the technology to
1215
01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:04.840
travel into space without using liquid rockets or solid rockets
1216
01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:07.960
as early as March of nineteen sixty six, then what
1217
01:19:08.039 --> 01:19:10.640
was the Saturn five rocket for? What was the Apollo
1218
01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:14.920
program for? If we already had this technology. So you've
1219
01:19:14.920 --> 01:19:18.239
got Neil Armstrong, you've got buzz Aldron, you've got Michael
1220
01:19:18.279 --> 01:19:23.319
Collins blasting off, and then Neil Armstrong and buzz Aldron
1221
01:19:23.479 --> 01:19:28.840
land on July twentieth nineteen sixty nine in this huge rocket.
1222
01:19:28.840 --> 01:19:30.399
It took them to get there. I'm going to go
1223
01:19:30.439 --> 01:19:32.439
on to the next slide here, and you can see
1224
01:19:32.439 --> 01:19:34.680
one of the Saturn F one engurines, and you've got
1225
01:19:34.680 --> 01:19:37.159
all these turbo pumps, and you've got these valves, and
1226
01:19:37.159 --> 01:19:40.720
you can see how complex this thing is. Any one
1227
01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:44.279
of these systems fail and you run the risk of
1228
01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:49.319
losing the rocket and the crew itself. All right, total
1229
01:19:49.359 --> 01:19:52.760
combined throw a seven point five million pounds. Is all
1230
01:19:52.800 --> 01:19:56.520
of this really necessary? I mean, Eddie Lexin didn't have
1231
01:19:56.560 --> 01:19:58.880
all this in the craft that he saw. It was
1232
01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:02.159
a very simple look vehicle. There were no exhaust ports,
1233
01:20:02.199 --> 01:20:06.880
there were no rocket nozzles, no turbopumps, no liquid rockets.
1234
01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:12.800
What it's saying here, what the evidence is showing, is
1235
01:20:12.840 --> 01:20:16.319
that we have a concurrent secret space program going on.
1236
01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:19.600
Number one, we've got NASA was such a public relations
1237
01:20:19.640 --> 01:20:23.119
space program. Number two, we have a much more privatized
1238
01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:29.119
defense contractor deep black program using super secret classified aircraft
1239
01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:35.239
utilizing electrogravitics and magnetohydrodynamic propulsion systems that go way beyond
1240
01:20:35.800 --> 01:20:39.640
liquid rockets and solid rocket boosters. That's what the evidence
1241
01:20:39.880 --> 01:20:40.399
is showing.
1242
01:20:40.479 --> 01:20:43.840
Us here. But it's more of a psyop just it's.
1243
01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:45.720
A public relation smoke stream.
1244
01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:46.119
You know.
1245
01:20:46.439 --> 01:20:48.720
They want people to think that this is the best
1246
01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:52.359
we've got. This is the best we've got. Now, Carl,
1247
01:20:52.680 --> 01:20:54.800
I have a question for you. Do you remember where
1248
01:20:54.800 --> 01:20:57.199
you were January twenty eighth, nineteen eighty six?
1249
01:21:00.479 --> 01:21:04.960
No, I don't you refresh my memory?
1250
01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:07.800
I might, I'm sure you do. And you can see
1251
01:21:07.840 --> 01:21:08.560
the slide.
1252
01:21:08.279 --> 01:21:10.920
Here right, Oh yeah, Challenger, Yes.
1253
01:21:10.840 --> 01:21:15.079
Okay, Challenger. Yeah. So on January twenty eighth, nineteen eighty six,
1254
01:21:15.159 --> 01:21:18.319
we lost the seven Challenger astronauts, right, I.
1255
01:21:18.319 --> 01:21:20.960
Actually skipped school to stay home that day.
1256
01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:22.520
In was okay?
1257
01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:23.159
Right?
1258
01:21:23.239 --> 01:21:24.479
So did you watch it live?
1259
01:21:24.800 --> 01:21:25.159
Yes?
1260
01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:26.039
You did?
1261
01:21:26.359 --> 01:21:26.560
Yes?
1262
01:21:26.640 --> 01:21:28.039
So you saw all this then?
1263
01:21:28.119 --> 01:21:28.359
Right?
1264
01:21:28.439 --> 01:21:28.840
I did?
1265
01:21:29.399 --> 01:21:33.039
Okay, Well, I was in high school. I didn't see
1266
01:21:33.039 --> 01:21:36.560
it live, but I remember it very well. And my
1267
01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:42.199
question is would any of these astronauts climb into that
1268
01:21:44.840 --> 01:21:50.199
dinosaur technology rocket if they knew about Eddie Lackson's technology
1269
01:21:50.239 --> 01:21:53.079
and what he saw they didn't have any liquid rockets
1270
01:21:53.119 --> 01:21:55.199
or saw, they would never have climbed into it.
1271
01:21:55.359 --> 01:21:58.279
No, they would just drive me climbing into a huge
1272
01:21:58.359 --> 01:21:59.079
Roman candle.
1273
01:21:59.119 --> 01:22:01.960
That's what that's right, that's right now. I think you
1274
01:22:02.079 --> 01:22:07.439
know about teacher Christa mccauliff. They weeded out eleven thousand candidates,
1275
01:22:08.319 --> 01:22:11.800
and you know what, in this case, NASA got it right.
1276
01:22:12.359 --> 01:22:16.920
They picked the perfect person. Christa mccauliffe was the highest,
1277
01:22:17.279 --> 01:22:20.439
the best person they could ever pick for being a
1278
01:22:20.760 --> 01:22:24.119
teacher in space. She would never have climbed in that thing.
1279
01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:27.479
If she knew that there was technology lurking in the
1280
01:22:27.520 --> 01:22:31.439
black world that had no risk of blowing up like
1281
01:22:31.640 --> 01:22:34.720
a liquid
rocket or solid they would never have got
1282
01:22:34.760 --> 01:22:38.119
we would we'd still be having her today. It's just
1283
01:22:38.359 --> 01:22:41.000
such a travesty that this actually happened. And there's another
1284
01:22:41.239 --> 01:22:43.960
thing to this which I don't think is connected to Challenger,
1285
01:22:44.079 --> 01:22:46.239
but in a way it is. But we'll go into
1286
01:22:46.279 --> 01:22:49.760
that here. That brings us to McClellan Air Force Space
1287
01:22:49.880 --> 01:22:54.439
nineteen seventy three. And this comes from Chris Coffee via
1288
01:22:54.720 --> 01:22:59.960
test pilot astronaut Ellison Unizuka source UFO Crash Retrieval's page
1289
01:23:00.079 --> 01:23:02.920
one F three, Case three. So I got to bring
1290
01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:06.159
in at least one Leonard Stringfield crash re trible case
1291
01:23:06.199 --> 01:23:11.800
here And this is a photograph of test pilot Ellison Unizuka,
1292
01:23:11.840 --> 01:23:17.039
who will become very important here now. According to Chris Koffee,
1293
01:23:19.479 --> 01:23:23.880
Ellison Unizuka told Chris Coffee that he was at McClellan
1294
01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:26.840
Air Force Base back in nineteen seventy three where a
1295
01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:29.800
number of pilots were called into a briefing room. There
1296
01:23:29.840 --> 01:23:32.840
was an Air Force general there. They had a sixteen
1297
01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:36.680
millimeter film projector there and the lights went down. This
1298
01:23:36.720 --> 01:23:40.399
is This is according to Ellison Unizuka, lights went down,
1299
01:23:41.119 --> 01:23:43.479
the general turns out on this movie projector and then
1300
01:23:43.520 --> 01:23:47.239
projected on the far wall are at least two medical
1301
01:23:47.279 --> 01:23:53.000
doctors dressed up in medical regalia here, and they were
1302
01:23:53.039 --> 01:23:57.800
examining two deceased et corpses on concrete slabs, and he
1303
01:23:57.880 --> 01:24:01.079
remembered thinking to himself, Oh my god, I can't believe
1304
01:24:01.079 --> 01:24:04.279
it now. A couple minutes later, the lights went back on,
1305
01:24:05.159 --> 01:24:08.640
film projector shut off and there was no debrief. So
1306
01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:11.520
this is another one of these cases where it appears
1307
01:24:11.560 --> 01:24:16.279
that the United States government, the US Air Force, was
1308
01:24:16.560 --> 01:24:20.720
using these pilots as a trial balloon to see what
1309
01:24:20.800 --> 01:24:23.560
their reaction would be. Could they handle this new reality
1310
01:24:23.680 --> 01:24:27.439
or would they crumble? Would their religious convictions and beliefs
1311
01:24:27.520 --> 01:24:30.560
be challenged? Could they handle this new reality. And the
1312
01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:34.319
thinking is, if our best test pilots couldn't handle it,
1313
01:24:34.359 --> 01:24:38.239
how much more so could the general public not handle this? Now,
1314
01:24:38.960 --> 01:24:41.640
now that it's been so many years later, and this
1315
01:24:41.840 --> 01:24:45.760
slow drip acclamation process has been going on for literally
1316
01:24:45.840 --> 01:24:52.039
eighty years now, through TV, magazines, movies, newspaper, an endless
1317
01:24:52.079 --> 01:24:56.720
amount of pumping UFO and aliens into the culture, into
1318
01:24:56.800 --> 01:25:01.159
the psyche of the American public. Are we ready or
1319
01:25:01.760 --> 01:25:05.119
is there a terrible truth behind this? I'm not sure
1320
01:25:05.199 --> 01:25:08.159
there's a terrible truth. I think we could be looking
1321
01:25:08.199 --> 01:25:11.199
at a scenario where they're creating a threat narrative where
1322
01:25:11.239 --> 01:25:14.159
there is no threat narrative. Let's move on here. So
1323
01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:16.520
here's the illustration I put together that gives you an
1324
01:25:16.520 --> 01:25:19.880
idea what this may have looked like. You've got the
1325
01:25:19.920 --> 01:25:22.880
projector here we've got the body. So here's another one
1326
01:25:22.920 --> 01:25:25.319
of these film clips that need to be released by
1327
01:25:25.359 --> 01:25:27.439
the Trump administration. But you know we're not going to
1328
01:25:27.479 --> 01:25:27.760
get it.
1329
01:25:28.119 --> 01:25:29.399
Of course, we're just going to.
1330
01:25:29.560 --> 01:25:32.640
Yep, we're just going to keep on getting this nothing
1331
01:25:32.720 --> 01:25:36.520
burger tranches that go by, and you know they're going
1332
01:25:36.600 --> 01:25:39.920
to weigh this out when when Trump leaves office, it's
1333
01:25:39.960 --> 01:25:42.039
going to stop immediately. It's probably going to stop a
1334
01:25:42.079 --> 01:25:45.119
long time prior to that. But this is our last
1335
01:25:45.239 --> 01:25:49.600
hope to get this information declassified. We need to raise
1336
01:25:49.640 --> 01:25:54.880
awareness that these type gun camera footage, motion picture film footage,
1337
01:25:54.880 --> 01:25:58.960
and eight by ten black and white glossy photographs actually exist.
1338
01:25:59.079 --> 01:26:04.439
So bottom line here is that Ellison Uniezuka was going
1339
01:26:04.479 --> 01:26:08.359
to have a basically a one on one interview with
1340
01:26:08.520 --> 01:26:11.079
Leonard Stringfield. They had it all planned out and he
1341
01:26:11.159 --> 01:26:15.000
was going to tell Leonard Springfield all about this movie clip.
1342
01:26:16.079 --> 01:26:20.880
Two weeks before that scheduled meeting was to take place,
1343
01:26:20.960 --> 01:26:24.000
he died in the Challenger accident. So we were this
1344
01:26:24.199 --> 01:26:27.960
close of getting his actual testimony, but it was already
1345
01:26:28.000 --> 01:26:34.439
too late. And I consider Ellison Uniezuka an absolute reliable witness.
1346
01:26:34.760 --> 01:26:37.880
Why would he say that as a joke, No way,
1347
01:26:38.039 --> 01:26:41.159
not a chance.
This is a reliable witness here, and
1348
01:26:41.199 --> 01:26:44.840
we lost everybody in the Challenger accident. Okay, late August
1349
01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:50.600
nineteen seventy, Calbury, Canada, Calgary, Canada. This is a chiropractor
1350
01:26:50.680 --> 01:26:53.760
on a horse ride and they were just kind of
1351
01:26:54.560 --> 01:26:57.199
riding off here into the countryside, and he said that
1352
01:26:57.239 --> 01:27:01.159
there was a medium sized cloud that was following them.
1353
01:27:01.840 --> 01:27:05.479
Emerging from this cloud is a forty foot diameter dish
1354
01:27:05.479 --> 01:27:09.000
shaped craft that had a blue coronal discharge wrapped around
1355
01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:11.359
the outer circumference, which you see in my illustration here.
1356
01:27:11.399 --> 01:27:14.319
Now on the bottom of it there were two counter
1357
01:27:14.600 --> 01:27:19.039
rotating what looked like heating registers or grates, and on
1358
01:27:19.119 --> 01:27:23.159
the bottom of it it almost looked like Father Gills UFO.
1359
01:27:23.319 --> 01:27:25.760
It had four prongs sticking out of it. So here's
1360
01:27:25.880 --> 01:27:28.800
case number three of these prongs and I don't think
1361
01:27:28.800 --> 01:27:30.399
they're landing your legs. I'm gonna move on to the
1362
01:27:30.399 --> 01:27:33.039
next slight. Here's the original drawing that went with the case.
1363
01:27:33.640 --> 01:27:37.079
You can see these counter rotating vents, and then on
1364
01:27:37.119 --> 01:27:40.760
the bottom view you've got these antenna or prong sticking
1365
01:27:40.800 --> 01:27:44.479
out here. Great case, really great crase. Now moving on
1366
01:27:44.520 --> 01:27:48.520
to this one. This case is known as the Army
1367
01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:54.560
Helicopter Incident, Mansfield, Ohio, October eighteenth, nineteen seventy three. And
1368
01:27:54.600 --> 01:27:58.239
I want to preface this by saying that this case
1369
01:27:58.439 --> 01:28:04.279
is so ironclad, so solid, so credible that even Philip
1370
01:28:04.399 --> 01:28:08.720
Klass could not hit this. He could not latch onto this.
1371
01:28:08.720 --> 01:28:11.319
This was just too much for him. Even he couldn't
1372
01:28:11.359 --> 01:28:14.840
debunk this. So to set this up, You've got four
1373
01:28:14.880 --> 01:28:18.319
crew members in a LUH one huey and they're near Mansfield,
1374
01:28:18.359 --> 01:28:25.399
Ohio at night. It was the crewmember in the back
1375
01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:28.920
that saw the craft approaching the helicopter at a closure
1376
01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:31.119
rate of six hundred miles an hour, so he alerted
1377
01:28:31.119 --> 01:28:34.479
the pilot. Pilot pulled back the throttle, put the helicopter
1378
01:28:34.560 --> 01:28:39.039
in a dive. They were at seventeen hundred feet altitude
1379
01:28:39.079 --> 01:28:42.359
and they saw a cigar shaped craft that was fifty
1380
01:28:42.399 --> 01:28:44.359
feet in the
length that had a white light on
1381
01:28:44.399 --> 01:28:46.279
the right hand side. It had a red light on
1382
01:28:46.319 --> 01:28:48.600
the left hand side. There was a small dome on top.
1383
01:28:49.399 --> 01:28:52.840
As they are in a full descent, a green beam
1384
01:28:52.880 --> 01:28:55.159
of light came from the bottom of the UFO hit
1385
01:28:55.199 --> 01:28:59.359
the helicopter and started raising it. And they're diving down
1386
01:28:59.399 --> 01:29:02.800
to avoid this thing. It starts raising the helicopter like
1387
01:29:02.840 --> 01:29:06.119
an elevator. Once they get to threey eight hundred feet,
1388
01:29:06.119 --> 01:29:09.720
there's a thump. There's a physical thump that they could feel,
1389
01:29:10.199 --> 01:29:14.359
and then the green light dissipated from the bottom of
1390
01:29:14.399 --> 01:29:16.880
the craft and then they flew on from that point forward.
1391
01:29:16.960 --> 01:29:19.359
And what I want to point out here and this
1392
01:29:19.399 --> 01:29:22.520
is another article here by Fate magazine. They talk about
1393
01:29:22.960 --> 01:29:28.640
Major Coin and the UFO. The true story. This is
1394
01:29:28.680 --> 01:29:32.880
the Daily Call October twenty second, nineteen seventy three. Closure
1395
01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:35.439
rate was six hundred miles an hour. So someone had
1396
01:29:35.479 --> 01:29:40.159
the technology with no visible means or propulsion, no engine,
1397
01:29:40.199 --> 01:29:43.640
no ailerons, no flaps, no wings. This is back in
1398
01:29:43.720 --> 01:29:46.680
nineteen seventy three. This is years after Eddie Laxon, so
1399
01:29:46.720 --> 01:29:51.439
they already perfected the technology or someone did it went
1400
01:29:51.600 --> 01:29:55.199
all the way to the United Nations and I Philip
1401
01:29:55.239 --> 01:29:58.159
Klass could not debunk it. So you've got Eric Gary
1402
01:29:58.319 --> 01:30:02.680
Off to the left, j Jacques Valet, and then Colonel Coyne,
1403
01:30:02.680 --> 01:30:04.760
who was the pilot of the helicopter. He went to
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01:30:04.800 --> 01:30:07.920
the UN and they just could not debunk this case.
1405
01:30:09.399 --> 01:30:14.840
September tenth, nineteen seventy six. Caluza, California, primary eye witness,
1406
01:30:15.079 --> 01:30:18.640
was watching television in his home at eleven thirty pm
1407
01:30:18.680 --> 01:30:23.039
at night when all of a sudden, the air conditioning
1408
01:30:23.079 --> 01:30:25.520
went out and the television went out, and he was
1409
01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:28.239
still in his boxer brief. So he got off the couch,
1410
01:30:28.319 --> 01:30:31.079
went to the back where the circuit breaker was and
1411
01:30:31.159 --> 01:30:33.079
the next thing that he knew of, and this is
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01:30:33.119 --> 01:30:35.600
going to be very familiar now because we're already three
1413
01:30:35.640 --> 01:30:39.079
and four into this, we've got pattern recognition. He felt
1414
01:30:39.079
--> 01:30:42.720
the hair on his arms, the hair on his head,
1415
01:30:42.880 --> 01:30:46.000
and the hair on his chest. Not only was it
1416
01:30:46.119 --> 01:30:50.840
sticking up, but it was crackling. The entire area was
1417
01:30:51.000 --> 01:30:54.840
permeated in the static electrical field. He looks up and
1418
01:30:54.920 --> 01:30:57.560
he sees a one hundred and forty foot diameter dish
1419
01:30:57.560 --> 01:31:01.199
shaped craft. It had a dome on top, but it
1420
01:31:01.319 --> 01:31:05.880
wasn't just a standard dome. This dome had ridges on
1421
01:31:05.960 --> 01:31:09.800
it like an old lemon squeezer, like an orange juice squeezer.
1422
01:31:10.880 --> 01:31:14.279
On the bottom of it, it had conduit pipes that
1423
01:31:14.479 --> 01:31:19.239
terminated in frayed edges, okay, frayed endings. It also had
1424
01:31:19.239 --> 01:31:22.119
these prongs or protrusions sticking out of the bottom of it.
1425
01:31:22.479 --> 01:31:24.880
And then he said that there was another craft that
1426
01:31:25.079 --> 01:31:27.680
was half the size of the one that he was under,
1427
01:31:28.359 --> 01:31:31.319
and it was pulling power off the five hundred thousand
1428
01:31:31.359 --> 01:31:34.119
volte power lines, causing them to become cherry red. So
1429
01:31:34.239 --> 01:31:38.119
this is a CE one case, and it's a CE
1430
01:31:38.159 --> 01:31:40.800
two case because it had physical effects all right, let's
1431
01:31:40.840 --> 01:31:44.000
move on here now. He goes inside. He wakes up
1432
01:31:44.039 --> 01:31:46.279
his wife and two kids. They go to the back
1433
01:31:46.319 --> 01:31:49.399
of the room there, open up the blinds. They look
1434
01:31:49.439 --> 01:31:52.800
out the window and they see the large craft flanked
1435
01:31:52.840 --> 01:31:56.479
on either side of the two smaller craft and they're
1436
01:31:56.520 --> 01:32:00.479
pulling power off five hundred thousand volte power lines. And
1437
01:32:00.520 --> 01:32:03.359
then the craft in the middle goes from a dead
1438
01:32:03.479 --> 01:32:06.960
standstill to hovering over the low rise mountains in the
1439
01:32:06.960 --> 01:32:11.560
background in one second. It traversed twenty five miles in
1440
01:32:11.640 --> 01:32:15.960
one second. Wow, and did the same maneuver in the
1441
01:32:16.039 --> 01:32:20.239
exact same timeframe, so it had traversed fifty miles in
1442
01:32:20.319 --> 01:32:24.279
two seconds and made no sonic boom. And this is
1443
01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:28.760
just like incredible technology. At this point, the primary witness
1444
01:32:29.319 --> 01:32:32.560
is scared for his life and his family. He doesn't
1445
01:32:32.600 --> 01:32:35.079
know what he's dealing with, so he piles everyone to
1446
01:32:35.119 --> 01:32:38.239
the pickup truck. The kids are still in their pajamas.
1447
01:32:38.479 --> 01:32:40.560
The wife is over on the passenger side, and they
1448
01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:43.279
go screaming down the road at ninety miles an hour,
1449
01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:46.399
and the large craft starts following them. This is a
1450
01:32:46.399 --> 01:32:50.520
true story. Goes over the cab of the truck over
1451
01:32:50.560 --> 01:32:53.239
to the wife then goes back over to where he is.
1452
01:32:54.119 --> 01:32:58.399
They get over to the neighbor's house, slam on the brakes,
1453
01:32:58.439 --> 01:33:01.520
pile out of the truck. They start knocking on the
1454
01:33:01.560 --> 01:33:05.000
neighbor's door. The neighbors walk out, and now there's six
1455
01:33:05.119 --> 01:33:07.880
witnesses that saw the large craft depart at a forty
1456
01:33:07.880 --> 01:33:12.199
five degree angle. Incredible witnesses. They saw the craft depart,
1457
01:33:12.239 --> 01:33:14.640
They got a good look at it. Now here's the
1458
01:33:14.680 --> 01:33:20.319
newspaper clipping, San Antonio Express, February sixth, nineteen seventy seven.
1459
01:33:20.439 --> 01:33:24.000
You can see Bill Petcha over to the right. Family
1460
01:33:24.159 --> 01:33:29.560
tells of terror as a UFO chased a car at
1461
01:33:29.680 --> 01:33:32.760
ninety miles an hour, and you can see the drawing
1462
01:33:32.840 --> 01:33:34.439
that they've got there. I'm gonna move on to the
1463
01:33:34.520 --> 01:33:37.279
next slide. Now we want to look at this and
1464
01:33:37.399 --> 01:33:41.920
examine this. What are these ramen noodles doing on the
1465
01:33:41.920 --> 01:33:43.000
bottom of a UFO?
1466
01:33:43.239 --> 01:33:45.399
Right? More static discharge units.
1467
01:33:45.439 --> 01:33:48.960
Yeah, it's like there's a reason for everything on here.
1468
01:33:49.079 --> 01:33:52.520
You've got don't we have a dome, but it's a
1469
01:33:52.680 --> 01:33:56.560
ridge dome. Okay. We've got prong sticking out that look
1470
01:33:56.720 --> 01:34:00.800
like a dinner fork almost that's bent. And then we've
1471
01:34:00.840 --> 01:34:04.119
got these what I'm calling ramen noodles hanging out from
1472
01:34:04.119 --> 01:34:07.199
the bottom of the UFO that look like conduit pipes
1473
01:34:07.239 --> 01:34:11.279
with frayed edges, And I kept thinking, what in the
1474
01:34:11.319 --> 01:34:15.720
world do aliens that are one hundred million light years
1475
01:34:15.760 --> 01:34:19.039
ahead of us in technology? What are they doing roaming
1476
01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:24.319
around our atmosphere within our ground like one hundred feet
1477
01:34:24.359 --> 01:34:27.399
off the ground. What are they doing flying around with
1478
01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:31.159
these ramen noodles hanging out of the bottom. This just
1479
01:34:31.239 --> 01:34:34.880
doesn't make any sense at all. So I gave this
1480
01:34:35.000 --> 01:34:39.760
lecture at IUFOCS seven years ago and this guy comes
1481
01:34:39.840 --> 01:34:41.359
up to me here and I did a blow up
1482
01:34:41.399 --> 01:34:45.560
of these things, and he says, Mike, I know what
1483
01:34:45.720 --> 01:34:48.560
those are because I raised this to the audience. I'm like,
1484
01:34:48.600 --> 01:34:51.119
does anyone know what this is? He goes, yes, he
1485
01:34:51.199 --> 01:34:55.319
goes they're static wicks, and they're used to dissipate static
1486
01:34:55.359 --> 01:34:58.359
electrical charges. They're seen on the trailing edge of airliners
1487
01:34:59.520 --> 01:35:01.439
and it can depletely makes sense. So I did some
1488
01:35:01.520 --> 01:35:04.199
digging here and you can see this is what what
1489
01:35:04.279 --> 01:35:07.199
these static wicks look like. And then here is the
1490
01:35:07.319 --> 01:35:12.319
part number from solid signal part number one one or zero,
1491
01:35:12.399 --> 01:35:16.239
one hundred and ninety two dollars each. This is what
1492
01:35:20.239 --> 01:35:24.000
get there, and nick the form fit and function. I'm here.
1493
01:35:24.319 --> 01:35:26.680
Okay, you dropped out for Yeah, you dropped out for
1494
01:35:26.800 --> 01:35:27.319
just a second.
1495
01:35:27.359 --> 01:35:31.159
But it's you can hear me now, right, yes, sir? Okay, good, okay.
1496
01:35:31.239 --> 01:35:35.479
So what we're dealing with here is a is a
1497
01:35:35.520 --> 01:35:40.560
man made technology using high voltage electrical fields, and it's
1498
01:35:40.800 --> 01:35:44.960
posing as an alien spacecraft to hide their own deep
1499
01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:48.720
black programs. That is what I believe is going on here. Now,
1500
01:35:48.760 --> 01:35:51.840
there is a core of reality to this phenomenon because
1501
01:35:51.920 --> 01:35:56.439
these UFO have been reported in ancient Roman times and
1502
01:35:56.479 --> 01:35:59.960
we've got reports from Wahaco, Mexico in eighteen sixty four.
1503
01:36:00.479 --> 01:36:03.880
So I am absolutely not saying that everything that we
1504
01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:07.600
see in our skies is man made. That's just not consistent.
1505
01:36:07.680 --> 01:36:11.039
But when it comes to these types of cases where
1506
01:36:11.079 --> 01:36:16.439
you've got CE two cases with static electrical charges, you've
1507
01:36:16.439 --> 01:36:20.920
got the car engines going out, you've got static on
1508
01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:24.239
the radio, you have witnesses that describe the hair standing
1509
01:36:24.279 --> 01:36:28.279
up on their head. I'm calling it like I see it.
1510
01:36:28.279 --> 01:36:31.760
It's a man made technology. So that tracks with a
1511
01:36:31.920 --> 01:36:35.800
privatized defense contractor space program here. I think we got
1512
01:36:35.800 --> 01:36:40.319
time for a couple more. December nineteen seventy six, Dana Point, California.
1513
01:36:41.479 --> 01:36:43.560
The wife was driving down the road with her two
1514
01:36:43.720 --> 01:36:47.279
kids and she said that she saw a large, quote
1515
01:36:47.359 --> 01:36:51.159
unquote her words, fat frisbee go right through the windshield,
1516
01:36:51.560 --> 01:36:55.680
right across the windshield, and it had thousands of multi
1517
01:36:55.760 --> 01:36:59.159
colored computer processing lights and a red light on top
1518
01:36:59.199 --> 01:37:01.600
that was blinking. This is the best illustration that I
1519
01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:03.960
can put together here. I'm going to move on here.
1520
01:37:03.960 --> 01:37:06.960
Here is the data Point, California, nineteen seventy six. This
1521
01:37:07.039 --> 01:37:10.119
is the newspaper clipping and you can see their illustration.
1522
01:37:10.239 --> 01:37:12.960
This is what it looked out right outside the windshield
1523
01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:17.399
of this thing. Again, it was a fat frisbee, literally
1524
01:37:17.680 --> 01:37:22.279
hundreds of multicolored computer processing lights. Here is my very
1525
01:37:22.319 --> 01:37:25.560
early autocat drawing that gives you an idea of what
1526
01:37:25.600 --> 01:37:28.159
this may have looked like. Here, and one thing I
1527
01:37:28.239 --> 01:37:31.800
want to point out. This is the exact make and
1528
01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:35.479
model of car that they were driving. That she was driving.
1529
01:37:35.880 --> 01:37:40.239
And she said that once this thing passed by, it
1530
01:37:40.359 --> 01:37:44.039
tipped up ninety degrees and rolled away like a wagon wheel,
1531
01:37:44.119 --> 01:37:46.880
which I thought was very interesting. So here's what the
1532
01:37:46.880 --> 01:37:50.680
craft looked like as it departed like a wagon wheel.
1533
01:37:50.720 --> 01:37:55.119
So there's something to this concept of tipping up at
1534
01:37:55.199 --> 01:37:58.640
ninety degrees and then rolling away. There's something going on here,
1535
01:37:59.319 --> 01:38:02.720
all right. Next T one Cash Landrum incident, which we
1536
01:38:02.800 --> 01:38:05.560
talked about in the beginning. Here this is number two.
1537
01:38:06.640 --> 01:38:08.439
You can call it number two or number three. It
1538
01:38:08.439 --> 01:38:10.479
could be either one, but let's call it number three.
1539
01:38:11.199 --> 01:38:15.520
This is the Cash Landrum incident, December twenty ninth, nineteen eighty. William.
1540
01:38:16.079 --> 01:38:21.560
We've got Betty Cash, Vicky Landrum, Colby Landrum, and this
1541
01:38:21.600 --> 01:38:25.000
is December twenty ninth, nineteen eighty. They're driving down Time
1542
01:38:25.119 --> 01:38:29.920
Farm Road at night, right around nine thirty pm. And
1543
01:38:30.359 --> 01:38:33.880
it was Colby in the back that saw this first,
1544
01:38:34.039 --> 01:38:36.359
and he saw this white light approaching the area. It
1545
01:38:36.439 --> 01:38:40.000
lit up the entire area. Betty Cash slammed on the
1546
01:38:40.039 --> 01:38:45.399
brakes and Vicky Landrum flew forward and put her hands
1547
01:38:45.439 --> 01:38:50.079
on the dashboard and her hands were melted and embedded.
1548
01:38:50.439 --> 01:38:54.239
Her fingers were embedded into the dashboard and
left a
1549
01:38:54.399 --> 01:38:58.159
visible mark there. So that that's the first piece of evidence.
1550
01:38:58.720 --> 01:39:00.560
I'm going to move on to the next line. So
1551
01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:04.159
here you've got the primary eyewitness, Vicky Landrum is no
1552
01:39:04.199 --> 01:39:07.920
longer with us. Betty Cash is no longer with us.
1553
01:39:08.039 --> 01:39:11.159
Colby Landrum is the sole surviving witness. This is all
1554
01:39:11.199 --> 01:39:13.920
we've got left. Now we need to get him. We
1555
01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:18.079
need to talk to him immediately before it's too late. Now,
1556
01:39:18.800 --> 01:39:21.399
Betty Cash gets out of the vehicle. This is December
1557
01:39:21.439 --> 01:39:24.159
twenty ninth and nineteen eighty Huffman, Texas. She goes to
1558
01:39:24.199 --> 01:39:26.640
the front of the vehicle and is looking at this thing.
1559
01:39:27.359 --> 01:39:31.239
This is about a ninety foot tall double ice cream
1560
01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:33.800
cone with a series of porthole windows wrapped around the
1561
01:39:33.800 --> 01:39:38.079
outer circumference. And every time this craft would bob down
1562
01:39:38.199 --> 01:39:42.359
toward the asphalt road, there was a loud roar, There
1563
01:39:42.439 --> 01:39:44.680
was a blue colored flame, and there was a beeping
1564
01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:49.960
noise which I believe was a proximity indicator. As Betty
1565
01:39:50.039 --> 01:39:52.800
Cash is walking back to the car, getting ready to
1566
01:39:52.800 --> 01:39:55.520
go back inside, she reaches down to the handle of
1567
01:39:55.560 --> 01:39:58.680
the door and she burns her hand. She had to
1568
01:39:58.760 --> 01:40:01.800
use the leather flat of her coat to open up
1569
01:40:01.840 --> 01:40:04.239
the door and go inside. Now, when she got inside,
1570
01:40:04.840 --> 01:40:07.399
it was literally boiling hot. They had to turn the
1571
01:40:07.439 --> 01:40:11.479
air conditioned around. Move on, here, here's another rendition of
1572
01:40:11.520 --> 01:40:16.640
what this looked like. Now, once this took place, and
1573
01:40:16.680 --> 01:40:20.039
I'm just kind of like doing the timing here. All
1574
01:40:20.119 --> 01:40:25.000
three witnesses reported no less than twenty three double rotor
1575
01:40:25.079 --> 01:40:29.760
Chinut CH forty seven helicopters chasing after this. There were
1576
01:40:29.880 --> 01:40:34.720
multiple other witnesses beside the primary three that also saw
1577
01:40:34.720 --> 01:40:38.000
the helicopters, so it's not just these three. There were
1578
01:40:38.039 --> 01:40:41.119
others that saw the helicopters as well. Now, this is
1579
01:40:41.159 --> 01:40:44.520
a perspective that I did of Betty Cash from behind
1580
01:40:44.600 --> 01:40:48.279
her looking at the craft. You've got the CH forty sevens,
1581
01:40:48.319 --> 01:40:50.079
and then I want to do one which I don't
1582
01:40:50.119 --> 01:40:53.479
think has been
seen before. This is from the perspective
1583
01:40:53.560 --> 01:40:57.840
of the CH forty seven helicopter looking down on the scene.
1584
01:40:58.119 --> 01:41:03.960
And we've got twenty three three CH forty seven's all
1585
01:41:04.000 --> 01:41:08.319
having three crew members minimum. We've got two bill uh
1586
01:41:08.359 --> 01:41:12.079
one helicopters, and then we've got one Sikorski Skycream, which
1587
01:41:12.119 --> 01:41:15.640
is that big helicopter when you add all the numbers up,
1588
01:41:15.760 --> 01:41:17.319
and I'm going to move on to the next slide.
1589
01:41:17.319 --> 01:41:21.159
Here here is the map. This is a top view
1590
01:41:21.199 --> 01:41:23.920
looking down on the upper part of this map. It
1591
01:41:24.039 --> 01:41:27.199
shows you the road where Betty Cash slammed on her
1592
01:41:27.239 --> 01:41:30.000
brakes one hundred and fifty feet away. X marks the
1593
01:41:30.039 --> 01:41:33.479
spot that's where the craft was hovering, and it made
1594
01:41:33.479 --> 01:41:36.880
a burdmark on the asphalt. Here this is what it
1595
01:41:36.920 --> 01:41:40.680
looks like here. This is FM fourteen eighty five west
1596
01:41:40.680 --> 01:41:45.479
of Dayton, Texas, shortly before eight forty five pm. Okay,
1597
01:41:45.960 --> 01:41:48.720
now this is the breakdown of the helicopters. You've got
1598
01:41:48.720 --> 01:41:52.600
the twenty three Chinooks crew of three, two UH one
1599
01:41:52.640 --> 01:41:57.119
Bells crew of two, Sikorski Skycream crew of three. If
1600
01:41:57.119 --> 01:42:00.479
you add all these numbers up, we're approaching where approaching
1601
01:42:00.520 --> 01:42:03.880
one hundred witnesses. You know, we might have some support
1602
01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:07.279
people and there might be more crew members on each helicopter.
1603
01:42:07.640 --> 01:42:11.560
We don't know exactly, but conservatively we'll just say seventy
1604
01:42:11.600 --> 01:42:17.319
five or seventy six witnesses. Carl, where are these helicopter
1605
01:42:17.760 --> 01:42:21.319
crew members and pilots? Where are they? Have they been
1606
01:42:21.439 --> 01:42:26.239
sworn to secrecy? And my other question is was photographic
1607
01:42:26.720 --> 01:42:30.359
motion picture of film of this event? Was it taken?
1608
01:42:31.199 --> 01:42:33.640
Do they have it? And will they ever come forward
1609
01:42:34.239 --> 01:42:37.880
or are they completely written off? And they had to
1610
01:42:37.920 --> 01:42:41.239
sign non disclosure agreements never to talk about that this
1611
01:42:41.359 --> 01:42:45.680
that might be the case. Here everything about this case
1612
01:42:45.800 --> 01:42:49.000
was written by John Schussler, who is the primary researcher.
1613
01:42:49.720 --> 01:42:52.960
Credit goes from John for digging out all the details here.
1614
01:42:53.880 --> 01:42:59.119
Florida Today, December fourth, nineteen eighty three, great newspaper Clipping
1615
01:42:59.239 --> 01:43:02.079
talked about a lot of the details of this case.
1616
01:43:02.640 --> 01:43:05.199
And here you see the primary eyewitnesses on the bottom.
1617
01:43:05.239 --> 01:43:10.399
Here they don't say UFO, but the agony lingers The Times,
1618
01:43:10.439 --> 01:43:13.800
December twenty fifth, nineteen eighty three. So you've got Betty Cash,
1619
01:43:13.920 --> 01:43:17.800
Vicky Landrum, Kolby Langrum here. Now this is the section
1620
01:43:17.880 --> 01:43:21.520
of road where they saw the craft itself. It's got
1621
01:43:21.560 --> 01:43:26.800
this lonely, foreboding appearance to it, and you can imagine
1622
01:43:27.119 --> 01:43:29.720
what that might have been looking like here. Now, let's
1623
01:43:29.760 --> 01:43:32.880
go over what happened as they were driving home after
1624
01:43:32.920 --> 01:43:38.319
this event happened, and we're talking literally immediately after this happened.
1625
01:43:38.880 --> 01:43:44.560
All three witnesses suffered from the severe effects of radiation poisoning.
1626
01:43:45.720 --> 01:43:47.960
I don't want to go over all the details here,
1627
01:43:47.960 --> 01:43:50.840
but I'm only going to read what happened to Betty here.
1628
01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:58.680
So she said that she had swollen eyes, vision, impaired stomach, pains, vomiting, diarrhea, anarexia,
1629
01:43:58.800 --> 01:44:02.680
loss of energy, scarring, and hair loss. She took the
1630
01:44:02.720 --> 01:44:05.439
brunt of it because she was outside the vehicle and
1631
01:44:05.560 --> 01:44:09.319
tored the hood of the car itself and was taking
1632
01:44:09.439 --> 01:44:14.720
most of the doses of radiation here. Now I pose
1633
01:44:14.800 --> 01:44:18.399
this question to you, Carl, Why would the United States
1634
01:44:18.640 --> 01:44:23.680
Air Force want to buy Betty's car? I find that
1635
01:44:23.800 --> 01:44:24.560
very interesting.
1636
01:44:26.039 --> 01:44:26.479
Interesting.
1637
01:44:26.760 --> 01:44:29.359
It's possible radioactive evidence to the.
1638
01:44:30.159 --> 01:44:34.800
Evidence, right, So, if there's nothing to UFOs, and if
1639
01:44:34.840 --> 01:44:39.359
it's just a misidentification of the of the planet Venus,
1640
01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:42.319
according to the Air Force, that's what they're telling us,
1641
01:44:42.359 --> 01:44:44.279
they shut it all down in sixty nine. If there's
1642
01:44:44.319 --> 01:44:47.119
nothing to UFOs, why did the Air Force try to
1643
01:44:47.119 --> 01:44:51.319
buy Betty's car? It's very interesting, very curious, Okay. Now,
1644
01:44:52.039 --> 01:44:56.600
immediately after the event, the US Army Corps of Engineers
1645
01:44:56.720 --> 01:44:59.560
dug up the scorch mark left by the craft on
1646
01:44:59.600 --> 01:45:03.720
the paved to conceal any physical evidence. Two weeks later,
1647
01:45:04.039 --> 01:45:07.119
they dug up the pavement a second time and paved
1648
01:45:07.159 --> 01:45:11.359
it a second time. And this
is all over a
1649
01:45:11.399 --> 01:45:15.199
weather balloon, a flock of geese, a misidentification of Venus.
1650
01:45:15.680 --> 01:45:21.239
I don't think so.
1651
01:45:18.840 --> 01:45:24.439
You know, we're talking about physical effects here, radiation, concealing
1652
01:45:24.479 --> 01:45:32.880
of evidence, lies, disinformation, giggle factor, humiliation, threats going on.
1653
01:45:33.640 --> 01:45:36.319
This is the policy from the government from the get go.
1654
01:45:36.479 --> 01:45:39.680
For eighty years, they've been using these tactics on these
1655
01:45:39.720 --> 01:45:43.479
witnesses and it has to stop. It's time for these
1656
01:45:43.560 --> 01:45:49.279
cases to come forward. And the US military industrial complex,
1657
01:45:49.399 --> 01:45:55.079
including the major defense contractors and the intelligence communities and
1658
01:45:55.279 --> 01:45:59.279
institutions on the East Coast are involved in this. Up
1659
01:45:59.319 --> 01:46:03.640
to their net they're involved in this. Lawrence Livermore Labs,
1660
01:46:04.000 --> 01:46:08.279
Los Alamos is up to this AEC no longer exists,
1661
01:46:08.359 --> 01:46:12.960
but that entity in whatever is the code word for it,
1662
01:46:13.000 --> 01:46:17.920
now they're involved in this. It wasn't the Air Force directly,
1663
01:46:18.239 --> 01:46:22.399
but it was the US Navy and these other organizations too.
1664
01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:26.199
Now it says here this is the Sun January twenty second,
1665
01:46:26.279 --> 01:46:32.279
nineteen eighty four. US sued for twenty million UFO damage. However,
1666
01:46:33.319 --> 01:46:36.920
the judge throughout the case because Betty Cash could not
1667
01:46:37.119 --> 01:46:40.800
prove that there were military helicopters associated with the event,
1668
01:46:41.600 --> 01:46:44.520
so she never even got her day in court. What
1669
01:46:44.560 --> 01:46:45.840
are your thoughts on that, Carl.
1670
01:46:46.079 --> 01:46:50.720
It's really sad that, yeah, did anyone ever go out
1671
01:46:50.760 --> 01:46:55.279
to that area and check for above normal radioactive presence.
1672
01:46:55.479 --> 01:46:58.319
Still some people have tried to do that, and I
1673
01:46:58.359 --> 01:47:01.000
think there were a couple of horse samples, but I
1674
01:47:01.039 --> 01:47:03.800
also think that they moved the road. I don't think
1675
01:47:03.840 --> 01:47:07.359
it's exactly where it was back then. I can't confirm that.
1676
01:47:07.399 --> 01:47:10.760
I haven't put boots on the ground at that exact location,
1677
01:47:10.960 --> 01:47:14.319
but you would think that you could still get something
1678
01:47:14.359 --> 01:47:18.119
residual there after all this time. And you know there
1679
01:47:18.199 --> 01:47:21.920
were other witnesses that saw the helicopters. So but you know,
1680
01:47:22.279 --> 01:47:26.079
this is so long ago now it's lost to history.
1681
01:47:26.319 --> 01:47:30.079
People even in ufology, people don't even know it's just
1682
01:47:30.159 --> 01:47:32.560
and this is top three and of all cases, it's
1683
01:47:32.600 --> 01:47:37.279
top three, and it's completely forgotten about. And most of
1684
01:47:37.319 --> 01:47:40.239
the witnesses are gone. Probably a lot of the helicopter
1685
01:47:40.279 --> 01:47:43.600
pilots are gone. Who knows, but they've never come forward,
1686
01:47:43.960 --> 01:47:47.119
and they know they know what was going on. They
1687
01:47:47.119 --> 01:47:50.159
were chasing after this thing, and the sky crane would
1688
01:47:50.159 --> 01:47:54.399
have been for if the craft malfunctioned and crashed, they
1689
01:47:54.399 --> 01:47:56.960
would use the sky crane with a lanyard to get
1690
01:47:56.960 --> 01:47:58.920
that thing out of there. That's exactly what it would
1691
01:47:58.920 --> 01:48:02.960
have happened, would have been a hush hush operation, highly classified,
1692
01:48:04.039 --> 01:48:06.399
and the government knows what's going on, at least some
1693
01:48:06.439 --> 01:48:09.800
of the contractors do. But bottom line here is that
1694
01:48:10.600 --> 01:48:13.800
all three witnesses, they never got their day in court.
1695
01:48:14.479 --> 01:48:18.680
But we don't want to let that memory pass away. Here,
1696
01:48:19.439 --> 01:48:23.439
I think we got one more. February third, nineteen eighty three, Mobile, Alabama,
1697
01:48:24.319 --> 01:48:27.159
primary eye witness was driving down the road at night
1698
01:48:27.960 --> 01:48:32.079
and she felt a booming noise that shook her vehicle,
1699
01:48:32.800 --> 01:48:35.920
and she thought that the transmission kind of came out
1700
01:48:35.960 --> 01:48:38.239
of the vehicle, so she stopped her car. She pulled
1701
01:48:38.279 --> 01:48:39.920
off to the side of the road. She looked under
1702
01:48:39.960 --> 01:48:44.079
the vehicle. Everything seemed fine there. So she went another
1703
01:48:44.159 --> 01:48:46.319
half mile down the road and off to the right
1704
01:48:46.359 --> 01:48:48.960
there was a clearing, and she said that there was
1705
01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:52.640
a very long, two hundred and ten foot long craft
1706
01:48:52.640 --> 01:48:57.000
that was eighty feet high. It had this cheered taper
1707
01:48:57.119 --> 01:49:00.199
effect as it went toward the after the craft, and
1708
01:49:00.239 --> 01:49:02.000
she said, on the top of the craft there was
1709
01:49:02.039 --> 01:49:08.039
a transparent window. Behind that window in a antiseptically sterile environment,
1710
01:49:08.119 --> 01:49:10.800
she said that there were these humanoid looking beings five
1711
01:49:10.840 --> 01:49:14.079
foot ten hairless that were wearing a one piece tight
1712
01:49:14.119 --> 01:49:17.600
fitting flight suit, and they were about five feet ten
1713
01:49:18.039 --> 01:49:21.399
below that there was another transparent window. Now, this whole
1714
01:49:21.479 --> 01:49:25.640
craft on the
outside was fastened by what looked like
1715
01:49:25.840 --> 01:49:31.399
rusty bridge rivets, basically fastening steel plates. This is what
1716
01:49:31.439 --> 01:49:33.800
she talked about here. And then she said on the
1717
01:49:33.840 --> 01:49:37.600
exterior there were porthole windows. And when she looked through
1718
01:49:37.600 --> 01:49:40.640
these porthole windows, because she was standing directly below this thing,
1719
01:49:41.199 --> 01:49:44.079
she could look through the porthole window, through the craft
1720
01:49:44.079 --> 01:49:46.520
itself and outside the other side. And she said it
1721
01:49:46.600 --> 01:49:50.479
reminded her of the crossbeam and girder construction that you
1722
01:49:50.479 --> 01:49:53.720
would see like on a truss bridge or at an
1723
01:49:53.760 --> 01:49:57.159
East coast shipping yard with bulkheads and stringers. It was
1724
01:49:57.279 --> 01:50:01.880
very mechanical looking one of ours. Yeah, it sounds like
1725
01:50:01.920 --> 01:50:05.960
one of ours. Now. On the front end of the
1726
01:50:06.079 --> 01:50:09.399
very nose section we're going to call it of this
1727
01:50:09.520 --> 01:50:13.960
craft that was more spherical, there were prongs sticking out.
1728
01:50:14.039 --> 01:50:16.119
So now this is like the fifth time we've heard
1729
01:50:16.159 --> 01:50:19.479
about this, now, these prongs sticking out. She also said
1730
01:50:19.520 --> 01:50:21.760
that there was a door closing from right to left,
1731
01:50:21.840 --> 01:50:25.000
and on the left hand wall. On the inside there
1732
01:50:25.159 --> 01:50:28.359
was what looked like tubes, pipes, and cylinders. That tracks
1733
01:50:28.399 --> 01:50:31.279
with Belgium Triangle, and that tracks with Hudson Valley boomerang.
1734
01:50:31.319 --> 01:50:35.640
It even tracks with the Southern Illinois Triangle January first, fifth,
1735
01:50:35.640 --> 01:50:38.199
two thousand. On the bottom of the craft there was
1736
01:50:38.239 --> 01:50:43.079
a minimum of one gondola which had transparent you could
1737
01:50:43.079 --> 01:50:46.239
call it a plexiglass window with the same five foot
1738
01:50:46.279 --> 01:50:49.119
tall humanoid looking beings. And then on the bottom of
1739
01:50:49.119 --> 01:50:52.960
the craft there were hundreds of twenty four inch by
1740
01:50:53.000 --> 01:50:56.640
twenty four inch highly polished mirror reflective devices that looked
1741
01:50:56.640 --> 01:50:59.159
like mirrors in the form of a cross. I'm going
1742
01:50:59.239 --> 01:51:02.319
to move on to the next I got this information
1743
01:51:03.079 --> 01:51:08.600
from the April bulletin volume thirty two, number two, nineteen
1744
01:51:08.640 --> 01:51:11.800
eighty four, So if anyone wants to get further details,
1745
01:51:12.319 --> 01:51:14.319
this is where I got the information. So this is
1746
01:51:14.399 --> 01:51:18.039
the sketch that we had to work from to procure
1747
01:51:18.520 --> 01:51:22.680
that full color illustration. So I worked with my good
1748
01:51:22.680 --> 01:51:24.840
friend Joel Christopher Payne, and we came up with a
1749
01:51:24.880 --> 01:51:29.239
more accurate rendition of this. She was driving a station wagon,
1750
01:51:29.279 --> 01:51:31.239
it was at night. She got a real good look
1751
01:51:31.239 --> 01:51:34.159
at this thing. And I want to go into some
1752
01:51:34.239 --> 01:51:38.359
details that were not revealed in the original apro article.
1753
01:51:38.399 --> 01:51:40.800
Here this is a blow up that shows you what
1754
01:51:40.920 --> 01:51:45.199
these humanoid looking beings look like. Now, one thing that
1755
01:51:45.479 --> 01:51:49.479
wasn't talked about in the original article. She said that
1756
01:51:49.560 --> 01:51:53.119
there was a bar that ran the length of the
1757
01:51:53.239 --> 01:51:57.800
whole front of this thing. Within this bar, there were cages,
1758
01:51:58.000 --> 01:52:03.119
and embedded within the cages, it had this mechanical structure.
1759
01:52:03.239 --> 01:52:06.880
There were pipes and tubes and cylinders and they were
1760
01:52:06.920 --> 01:52:10.479
embedded into separate cages that made up this long length
1761
01:52:10.560 --> 01:52:12.760
bar on the front of this thing. And then there
1762
01:52:12.760 --> 01:52:14.720
were these prongs sticking out of the front that we
1763
01:52:14.840 --> 01:52:17.239
talked about before. Let's move on to the next one here. Now,
1764
01:52:18.800 --> 01:52:25.000
in twenty twenty two, I received a mysterious message. And
1765
01:52:25.039 --> 01:52:27.600
this is kind of a world exclusive. So I got
1766
01:52:27.600 --> 01:52:29.960
this message on my phone. I had no clue what
1767
01:52:30.079 --> 01:52:33.279
this was. And I look it down and it's this
1768
01:52:33.399 --> 01:52:36.840
woman named Pat and she says, Mike, I've been trying
1769
01:52:36.840 --> 01:52:39.960
to reach you for ten years. I'm your witness. She
1770
01:52:40.199 --> 01:52:42.880
was still alive. She tracked me down. She was the original.
1771
01:52:43.159 --> 01:52:45.680
I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. And so
1772
01:52:45.720 --> 01:52:47.760
she said, Mike, I got something for you I want
1773
01:52:47.760 --> 01:52:50.920
to give you. She gave me her original sketches of
1774
01:52:51.000 --> 01:52:53.239
what the craft looks like and what you're seeing. Here
1775
01:52:53.279 --> 01:52:56.960
are her original sketches. So we'll look at the front
1776
01:52:57.039 --> 01:52:59.720
on the left hand side. You can see this bulbous
1777
01:52:59.760 --> 01:53:03.560
second on the aft right hand side. It had the
1778
01:53:03.640 --> 01:53:07.239
C one thirty cargo door that wasn't talked about really
1779
01:53:07.239 --> 01:53:10.600
in the article. Let's move on here. Here's a front view.
1780
01:53:11.079 --> 01:53:14.239
You've got the lights, You've got the big cage or
1781
01:53:14.399 --> 01:53:17.319
bar in the front of this thing. You've got the protrusions.
1782
01:53:17.760 --> 01:53:20.239
You've got the door closing from right to left. I'm
1783
01:53:20.239 --> 01:53:22.960
going to read the callouts here, she says sliding door.
1784
01:53:23.760 --> 01:53:26.359
She did see what looked like a road or driveway
1785
01:53:27.119 --> 01:53:30.520
on the bottom of this thing, so like cargo or
1786
01:53:30.680 --> 01:53:34.439
jeeps or tanks or something could roll into this thing
1787
01:53:35.079 --> 01:53:38.600
from the C one thirty afteror that's the impression that
1788
01:53:39.000 --> 01:53:42.800
we're getting here. She talks about seven to eight floors,
1789
01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:48.560
no sound. She specs out all the lights here, good drawing. Actually,
1790
01:53:48.600 --> 01:53:51.880
here's another version here. These are all her original sketches.
1791
01:53:53.239 --> 01:53:57.600
So then she also spressed that the whole thing looked
1792
01:53:57.600 --> 01:54:00.439
like it was dipped in the ocean and then back
1793
01:54:00.520 --> 01:54:03.199
up and it had streams of rust coming down from it.
1794
01:54:03.600 --> 01:54:07.600
So you're right, Carl, it's screaming a man made technology. Here.
1795
01:54:07.640 --> 01:54:11.479
The entire craft was held together with what looked like
1796
01:54:11.680 --> 01:54:17.000
bridge rivets and rusty battleship like steel plates. Yeah, it's
1797
01:54:17.039 --> 01:54:20.960
exactly what we're talking about here now, Yeah, Rural Exclusive.
1798
01:54:21.960 --> 01:54:25.199
After spending two weeks speaking to the primary witness and
1799
01:54:25.319 --> 01:54:29.159
working with my friend and artist Rudy Gardea, we corrected
1800
01:54:29.319 --> 01:54:33.720
all of the original errors in the original illustration and
1801
01:54:33.800 --> 01:54:37.399
created a historically correct, refined drawing which I want to
1802
01:54:37.399 --> 01:54:40.399
show you right now. And this is what it looked like.
1803
01:54:40.880 --> 01:54:43.239
This is as close as we're going to get to it.
1804
01:54:43.279 --> 01:54:46.000
This is what it actually looks like. So it's a
1805
01:54:46.000 --> 01:54:49.199
little bit more refined. We've got the rivet plates here,
1806
01:54:49.239 --> 01:54:52.079
we've got the steel rivets, we've got the bar, we've
1807
01:54:52.079 --> 01:54:55.399
got the C one thirty door in the back. Obviously
1808
01:54:55.439 --> 01:54:59.199
this is a cargo transport or something like that, because
1809
01:54:59.239 --> 01:55:03.239
it's huge, huge. And then when we first did the bar,
1810
01:55:03.760 --> 01:55:05.560
she said, no, no, no, no, you got it all wrong.
1811
01:55:05.600 --> 01:55:07.520
That bar should be a lot longer. So we had
1812
01:55:07.520 --> 01:55:12.039
to fix all the errors. We optimized that I took
1813
01:55:12.079 --> 01:55:14.760
that to the next level and created this illustration. This
1814
01:55:14.880 --> 01:55:16.520
gives you an idea of
what it might have looked
1815
01:55:16.560 --> 01:55:19.720
like from her perspective. And you see the bar, You've
1816
01:55:19.720 --> 01:55:22.239
got the steel cages, we've got the tubes, pipes, and
1817
01:55:22.279 --> 01:55:26.960
the cylinders. So bottom line is in this presentation, what
1818
01:55:27.000 --> 01:55:29.159
I really wanted to do is I wanted to give
1819
01:55:29.199 --> 01:55:34.520
everyone a brief overview of some of these historical cases
1820
01:55:34.560 --> 01:55:38.399
that have been forgotten. They're lost, they're forgotten, they're left
1821
01:55:38.439 --> 01:55:41.079
for dead. They've been stranded in binders, and they've been
1822
01:55:41.119 --> 01:55:44.760
stranded in Manila folders and file cabinets for decades, have
1823
01:55:44.880 --> 01:55:47.319
not seen the light of day. I wanted to dig
1824
01:55:47.359 --> 01:55:52.079
these cases out, make these cases come alive, and preserve
1825
01:55:52.159 --> 01:55:55.760
a very important part of our national history. That's really
1826
01:55:55.800 --> 01:55:57.880
my crusade, Carl, That's what it's all about.
1827
01:55:58.560 --> 01:56:02.720
Well, I appreciate your you know, hunting this stuff down
1828
01:56:02.760 --> 01:56:05.199
and putting it together like this, because, like you say,
1829
01:56:05.239 --> 01:56:07.560
it's not something you're going to see somewhere else.
1830
01:56:08.720 --> 01:56:11.039
I don't think. So someone's got to get boots on
1831
01:56:11.039 --> 01:56:12.359
the ground and get this stuff.
1832
01:56:12.479 --> 01:56:17.479
Yeah, somebody does, most definitely. Okay, if you've got other stuff.
1833
01:56:17.640 --> 01:56:19.640
I would like to have you back in the future too.
1834
01:56:20.479 --> 01:56:23.199
Sure we can do a part two with the crash retrievals.
1835
01:56:23.479 --> 01:56:26.680
And that's what's talked about all the time. Now they
1836
01:56:26.760 --> 01:56:29.439
keep talking about crash retrievals. What they should be doing
1837
01:56:29.600 --> 01:56:33.439
is investigating Leonard Streamfield cases because he's the world's expert.
1838
01:56:34.239 --> 01:56:37.960
He's the one who vetted out these first ten military witnesses,
1839
01:56:39.199 --> 01:56:43.399
people who touched the UFOs that they recovered, they loaded
1840
01:56:43.399 --> 01:56:46.720
these craft up, they were on the retrieval teams, they
1841
01:56:46.800 --> 01:56:51.079
saw the bodies, they assisted the bodies walking out of
1842
01:56:51.119 --> 01:56:53.960
these craft. We've got multiple cases. We've got a case
1843
01:56:54.000 --> 01:56:57.359
from an office worker at the Pentagon back in nineteen
1844
01:56:57.399 --> 01:57:01.359
fifty two. She accidentally went into an off limits room
1845
01:57:01.520 --> 01:57:04.119
and she kind of did a one hundred and eighty
1846
01:57:04.159 --> 01:57:07.079
degree turn and she saw a pickled alien and a
1847
01:57:07.199 --> 01:57:11.560
large glass container kept in a preservation for mel the
1848
01:57:11.640 --> 01:57:15.279
hyde fluid. We got her testimony. We have the testimony
1849
01:57:15.319 --> 01:57:18.760
from Missus G who in nineteen fifty five was at
1850
01:57:18.760 --> 01:57:22.720
the Foreign Materials Division at Right Patterson Air Force Base,
1851
01:57:22.800 --> 01:57:27.039
and she said that she cataloged a thousand components that
1852
01:57:27.199 --> 01:57:30.680
came from the interior of a crash retrieval. You think
1853
01:57:30.720 --> 01:57:33.680
about what that means is we always hear that there's
1854
01:57:33.720 --> 01:57:37.119
no physical evidence in these congressional hearings. Here we have
1855
01:57:37.199 --> 01:57:42.239
a woman, a credible witness, who not only touched these pieces,
1856
01:57:43.119 --> 01:57:47.039
but she cataloged them. And she saw two deceased et
1857
01:57:47.319 --> 01:57:51.439
corpses on a mobile Dolly roll right by her desk
1858
01:57:51.840 --> 01:57:55.359
as she's typing and cataloging these things away. So they've
1859
01:57:55.479 --> 01:57:58.520
gotten not only the physical evidence. They've got the motion
1860
01:57:58.640 --> 01:58:02.079
picture film reels. They've got the bodies, they've got the craft,
1861
01:58:02.119 --> 01:58:05.319
they've got the hardware, and they've got eight x ten
1862
01:58:05.880 --> 01:58:10.960
glossy black and white photographs of flying saucers in flight
1863
01:58:11.119 --> 01:58:15.159
taken by Air Force pilots in flight with F eighty
1864
01:58:15.279 --> 01:58:22.319
six and F ninety four starfire in chase. And they've
1865
01:58:22.359 --> 01:58:25.720
got this physical evidence. This is the kind of evidence
1866
01:58:25.760 --> 01:58:28.359
that needs to be brought out in congressional hearings.
1867
01:58:28.399 --> 01:58:28.640
Now.
1868
01:58:28.720 --> 01:58:31.479
I don't know if we will ever see it. I
1869
01:58:31.479 --> 01:58:33.840
don't know if we will ever see it. Maybe they
1870
01:58:33.840 --> 01:58:36.600
think it's just too much for us. But after all
1871
01:58:36.640 --> 01:58:41.840
this time, and since a significant majority of this was
1872
01:58:41.920 --> 01:58:44.720
paid for by the American taxpayer, that's why we should
1873
01:58:44.760 --> 01:58:45.600
demand it, Carl.
1874
01:58:46.119 --> 01:58:47.800
It's ours, so we want it now.
1875
01:58:47.920 --> 01:58:49.239
That's right. That's right.
1876
01:58:50.199 --> 01:58:51.760
Well, Michael, I know you have to get on with
1877
01:58:51.800 --> 01:58:54.880
your evening, but I will give you let our listeners
1878
01:58:54.960 --> 01:58:56.960
know where they can find your YouTube channel.
1879
01:58:57.239 --> 01:59:00.359
Sure, okay. My YouTube channel is very simple. It's just
1880
01:59:00.520 --> 01:59:04.439
my name, Michael Shatt. Type Michael Shrapp into YouTube and
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you'll find it. It's scchratt, totally simple. Everything that we've
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talked about tonight is highlighted within the UFO channel, although
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what you're seeing here is a lot of new information,
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so I'm constantly refining and optimizing all this. But I've
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got the crash retrievals on there. I've got the historical
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UFO cases on there. I do a deep dive into
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the legacy of gravity research and how they made the breakthrough.
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I do talk about Challenger, I've got that on there.
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I've got McDill Air Force Base that back in nineteen
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sixty seven in September. I've got a very reliable witness
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who is a naval combat veteran who stated that there
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was a massive library at McDill Air Force Base where
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they had film reels of UFOs. They had eight x
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ten black and white glossy photographs and tremendous amount of evidence.
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All that's on my YouTube channel.
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Well, thank you, Michael, and it's been an holdor having
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you here, and I will definitely contact you about part two.
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Okay, sounds good.
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Thank Paul, Thank you, sir. Good night. You get a
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shiver in.
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The dark, gets ready in the park, meantime.
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Down off the river, you're stopping your home everything. A
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man's browing Dixie globble ball time.
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Feet away.
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When you hit him, you say green.
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And I stepped inside.
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This is Dark Spaces News. I'm Joshua Stark. The United
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States is on track to record its highest number of
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measles cases in more than three decades, raising concerns that
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the country could lose its measles elimination status. Health officials
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have recorded more than two two hundred and ninety five
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cases so far this year, already surpassing the two two
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hundred and eighty six cases reported in all of twenty
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twenty five. Large outbreaks have been reported in South Carolina
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and Utah, while cases have also been identified in dozens
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of other states. The surge is being fueled by pockets
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of low vaccination. The measles, mumps and rubella or MMR.
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Vaccine is highly effective, but measles is so contagious that
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about ninety five percent of people in a community need
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to be vaccinated to prevent sustained spread. In recent years,
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average two dose vaccination rates among children and dozens of
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states have fallen from roughly ninety four percent from the
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COVID nineteen pandemic to about ninety one percent afterwards. The
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United States has maintained measles elimination status since two thousand,
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but experts warn that ongoing transmission could put that designation
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at risk. The problem extends beyond the US. Canada loss
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its elimination status last year, while Mexico has reported more
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than twelve thousand cases. Public health experts say measles elimination
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is fragile and requires consistently high vaccination rates. They warned
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that declineing coverage creates vulnerable communities where the virus can
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quickly gain a foothold. The measles vaccine remains the most
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effective tool for preventing outbreaks. Catch up with dark spaces
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News on the dark spaces News Facebook page and darkspacesnews
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dot Com. From Memphis, Tennessee, I'm josh, it goes dark.
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What is ham radio?
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It's the most fun you can have with the radio,
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talk to people around the world or even orbiting the world.
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And you don't need a two year contract or internet
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access to do it. Learn about electronics and be of
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service to your community. A RRL, the National Association for
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Amateur Radio, has over two thousand clubs across the country,
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including this one in your area.
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I knew I was stuck at this kid's house the night.
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I've decided to just go to sleep and get the
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night over with. But those guys can do. The bedroom
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gone to a massive pillow fight. Let me tell you
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it's not easy find asleep when a sweaty little kid
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fall on you every five seconds. Even after the lights
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went out, Rawing and his
friends stayed up. A bunch
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of them snuck up on me to trample a hand
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in a ball of warm water.
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Trick.
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Well, that was enough for me. I went downstairs a
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sleep in the basement, even though it was pitched black.
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My sleeping bag upstairs, and that was a mistake because
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it was freezing. I think it was probably the longest
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night of my life. When the sun came up this morning,
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I found out the reason it was so cold. I
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was sleeping right by the sliding glass door, and some
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fool had gone and left it open all night. That
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really sunk because if I knew there was a way
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to escape last night, I definitely would have taken it.
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Read more about the sleepover. Checkout diary of o Ompee Kid,
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The Last Draw by Jeff Kenney. Explore New Worlds and
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check out more codebooks at your local library, and visit
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read dot Gov, brought to you by the Library of
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Congress and the AD Council.
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I can get you sleep.
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I think about the implications I'm diving into a deep
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possibly the compregations, especially at night, my worry over situations
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I know will be all right. Perhaps it's just to imagination.
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Day I read.
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Join host Carl Richardson as he interviews top guests in
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various fields of study. Now airing live every Saturday night
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from nine to eleven Central Time and ten pm to
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midnight Eastern.
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Once again, we've reached the end of another edition of
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Midnight Frequency Radio. I want to thank Michael Scratt for
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joining us tonight and taking us on his UFO Magical
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Mystery Tour, and to everyone listening tonight. Thank you for
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spending part of your weekend with us here on midnight
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Frequency Radio. Next Saturday night, we'll be back with another
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very interesting guests, and this will actually be his third
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time joining us here on midnight Frequency Radio. Returning to
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the program will be David John Oates, the founder and
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discoverer of reverse speech. For more than four decades, David
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has researched a phenomenon that he believes may reveal an
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entirely different level of human communications, one operating beneath the
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words we consciously speak. We've had some fascinating conversations with
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David during his previous appearances, but this time we're going
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to take the discussion in a different direction. We're not
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just going to look back at the history of reverse speech.
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We're going to look forward. David has recently launched a
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new reverse speech grassroots movement, an effort to bring together
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people from around the world who want to learn about
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the phenomenon, experiment with it, conduct their own recent search,
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and help introduce reverse speech to a new generation. We'll
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talk about why David believes that the time has come
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for a grassroots movement, what he hopes to accomplish and
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where he sees reverse speech going in the years ahead.
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Will also explore some much bigger questions. If reverse speech
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is prevailing genuine information from our conscious awareness, what does
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that tell us about the human mind? Could it change
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the way we understand consciousness, communications, psychology, and even ourselves?
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And perhaps most importantly, what could the future implications of
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reverse speech be for the human race. After more than
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forty years of research, David believes there is still much
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more waiting to be discovered, and that reverse speech may
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ultimately have implications far beyond anything he imagined when he
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first stumbled across the phenomen decades ago. We'll also explore
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where his research has been, where it is today, and
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where David believes it could take us into the future.
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That's next Saturday night, when Javid John Oates returns for
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his third appearance on Midnight Frequency Radio. Until then, I'm
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Carl Richardson from the Late Art Bell and Evan Lewis.
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Good night everyone,