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My name's Nick, I play drums in 6th Wonder and
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our new song Burnout just came out yesterday and you
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should all go listen to it.
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My name's Rebecca, I'm the vocalist in 6th Wonder and
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we've just brought out a new song called Burnout.
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Fantastic, thanks for joining us guys.
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Thanks for having us.
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My pleasure, so as.
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You say 6th Wonder just dropped their new song Burnout,
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I know it hasn't been that long yet but how's
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the early reception been?
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It's been pretty good, to be fair. I think we were.
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I personally was a little bit nervous to release this
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one just because it's quite different compared to everything else
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we have released to date, just to see what reaction
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would be. But luckily it's been very, very nice and
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everybody seems to really be digging it so far, which
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has been great.
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It's been good fun for me. It's the first single
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I've been involved in, which I joined so late I'm
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not even in the music video, but I'm on the song, so...
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It's been nice seeing everyone's comments on the music video.
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At least I could just like snook and be like,
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I wonder what they think of this.
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Don't judge me. That's awesome.
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So tell us a bit more about the song from
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a musical point of view and what you've gone for with.
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It.
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I've wanted to make kind of a sort of ED
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soundscape type thing. I wanted it to be like a
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sort of slow build and then kind of descend into
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madness to kind of represent what the the lyrical themes
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are which is just building yourself up and constantly working
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yourself to the brink of being able to not take
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any more for it to then hit and everything to
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kind of fall apart around you so kind of creating
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that kind of really big build obviously with very long
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intro with no instruments for about a minute and a
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half other than just synth programming things um that was
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intentional just to kind of create more of like a
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that's unease.
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Sort of like because people are used to hearing more
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more from us right away so again.
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Just another little experimentational thing but everything kind of worked
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into this sort of early 2000s sort of weird stuff
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which obviously is reflected in the the imagery of the
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cover art and everything as well but just trying to
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tie all of that in together to make what it
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has became.
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I think for me as well being the first one
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I was involved in like I was saying it's great
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listening back to the stuff that they had released already
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because i think there's like more of a proggy nature
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to to this one it's a bit of a longer
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song and the development is kind of more gradual like
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rebecca was saying and that's like totally in my wheelhouse
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i love kind of starting with a theme and then
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like just carrying that all the way through a song
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and um i just yeah i enjoyed writing drums for
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it i think it was just a great song for
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me to start working with the band so.
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So Nick, you can sit this one out because you
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weren't there, but Rebecca, tell us about the music video
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and how it ties in with the themes of the song.
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So this song is my baby, Fuli. Everything I very
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much was taking creative control of. The music video, I
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had the idea that I really wanted this sort of.
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Like almost.
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Sort of like the backdrop that you're currently sitting in
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front of that is the real place that we shot
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at I wanted that sort of green blue split I
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wanted that kind of Windows XP look just to be
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that kind of really weird why are they there type
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thing and then to kind of go in with the
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sort of uncanny valley style makeup and the 1950s clothing
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I just wanted us to look
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really really out of
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place but to be acting as if everything was normal
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is why I was like the smile was painted on
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it's plastered on my face throughout the entire music video.
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I just wanted to give just a very uncertain feeling
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because it's such a long song as well to watch
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like a full music video for but I just wanted
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to kind of keep that almost grip on the person
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watching because it's like why why why are they doing
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all of this?
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Good. Burnout follows on from the singles missile and Is
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This What You Want From Me. So are they standalone
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singles or are they part of a bigger musical picture?
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All standalone. None of these songs are linked whatsoever.
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Right.
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There's no plans for an album with them or you're
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just working one song at a time at the moment?
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At the moment, we're working a little bit at a time.
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Maybe check in with us next year. But at the moment, singles.
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No worries. So talk us through the massive single Missile then.
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Apparently it all sparked from messing around with the synth
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loop pattern on the Apple loop. So what was the
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creative simulation like when Dylan and Nathan took the electronic
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backbone and laid on the heavy elements with it?
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It was really interesting to watch how this song developed
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because I could just... When I was.
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Again, as you said, it was just Apple loops that
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I was messing about with that I'd kind of changed
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the synth pattern slightly for. I'd seen... I could hear
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that I wanted it to be like a really good
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live song because I could hear really good drums on
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it and I could hear how I wanted the guitars
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to sound but I wanted it to still kind of
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I don't know circle around that initial sort of synth
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pattern which is why the guitar riff is also the
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synth pattern and just that kind of really is hammered
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in that this is the song but yeah hearing it
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go from what initially was it didn't change too much
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to be fair but things were added and it just
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lifted it to this new.
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Sort of I guess it's probably a rockiest.
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Sounding song rather than metal I know there is still
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a breakdown but it is pretty live rock is kind
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of what I wanted the sound to be and I
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feel like it kind of did that.
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So this new material that you're writing like how how
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is it different from the music on your debut EP
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prologue like how's the band how's it maturing I guess or.
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Changing I feel like the approach that we have to
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writing is slightly, it's not too dissimilar to what we
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were doing before but I feel like as musicians we've
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all kind of developed in our writing styles and the
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way that we work together.
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We obviously have a.
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New member with fresh ideas on board in Nick here
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so just kind of bringing all those elements in together
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I feel like is sort of changing the way that
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we approach our writing styles. And I feel like we're,
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although Prologue was very collaborative, I feel like we're heading
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down a way more collaborative route to kind of age
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into the next year with the sort of new stuff
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that we're doing at the moment.
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It's been great for me just being able to start
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working on that process with the guys and me and
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Nathan especially, it's just I've been working on ideas back
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and forth, summer demos, some were very early versions of Burnout,
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so it's been great for me just to impart a
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little bit of what I like my taste and stuff
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and then you know I'm not stubborn stuff can change
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it's like it's good to have your baseline and then
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other people's influences can mold that you know so it's
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it's been amazing yeah.
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So it's a bit newer to the band like um
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what do you what do you think you bring to
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the sound like what elements do you bring into the picture.
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Um I mean I've seen a little bit of progginess
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I do like I mean one of my favorite bands
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and drummers is um Periphery and that's just I love
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their musicality and that's something that's definitely part of the
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way I play drums um But then we all have
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such varied influences that are not metal. And I think
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it's amazing when those influences are clear in each person's contributions.
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And yeah, I like groovy drums. I like stuff that
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builds and develops. And I think Burnout is a really
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good example of that. So it's a great one to
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be involved in first. And yeah, I'm excited to work
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on new stuff next year.
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Very nice.
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Now, it's no secret to the faithful that Sixth Wonder
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actually started out as a university project to get a grade.
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So at what moment, Rebecca, did you sort of.
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Stand back and look at the reception of First Track
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and say, rightio, we've got something going here.
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Let's turn into a proper band.
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I think it was just kind of seeing how accepting
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people were of the song off the bat. It's not
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like anything I'd ever done before. I did like kind
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of pop things before.
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So it was very.
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uh like drastically different but for everybody to just not
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really question that I just moved into this metal space
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and which is like oh okay that's really cool that
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she's doing that okay well awesome um and people people
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seem to enjoy the first song so I think at
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that point we're like well we'll just try it out
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and see see.
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How it goes and here we are.
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When I was really young I actually knew Rebecca at
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uh we were like I don't know how did we
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first meet in like a a rock school of some variety.
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It was not metal music, put it that way. I
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this is pretty cool.
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I was like, is that Rebecca? People talk about your music.
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They take a notice of the self-described gent pop sound.
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How do you strike that balance?
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You've got the salty, sweet, massive radio-friendly pop hooks, and
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then you've got the soul-crushing technical prog breakdowns.
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How do you bring them together, I guess, without sacrificing one.
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Or the other?
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I think it just kind of naturally goes that way.
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everything that I write I feel like I'm not intentionally
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trying to make it kind of pop sounding it just
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kind of goes that way so I guess that's just
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my my writing style um and especially when I bring
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things to Nathan he's already he's got a million ideas
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all the time um so there's always going to be
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something that works with what I'm doing or he'll just
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write something on the spot around what I've done um
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I feel like because we are we're quite in tune
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with each other particularly myself and Nathan just when it
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comes to that like core writing process I feel as
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if we're able to bounce off of each other and
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recently speaking with Nathan he'd mentioned that when he's writing
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something he will often adjust something that he's written to
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think what would Rebecca do with this I think she'd
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probably do something like that so I'll write it in
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this way instead of the path I was already going
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down which I think is really really cool and it
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shows a really great maturity in his writing and understanding
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of the greater picture of what the sixth wonder sound
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could and should be.
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Yeah, that's my answer for that. I was just talking
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about Nathan.
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You've had a pretty good tour schedule too, guys.
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You've supported Malavara, especially the Radar Festival. You've got some
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gig with Skindred coming at the moment up. So how is,
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I suppose as a band who's sort of still youngish,
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like how does that intense live environment translate to the
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material you're working on now?
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That's a good question.
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I don't know, I think how you structure set lists
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has maybe changed, and certainly in my mind, from the
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first show I played with these guys back in, what
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was it, June time this year? I don't know, now
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that Burnouts came into play, you're totally thinking more about
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the live set up in terms of songs and how you,
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like the journey of the set list, especially with the
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Mal of Orator, you're only getting 30 minutes. So you're
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trying to think about how you present yourself really well
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30 minutes and it's like it's maybe harder than people
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think when you're picking from songs and stuff and I
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don't know it's like it was a big discussion where
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Burnout goes on the set for example it's like because
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we wanted to play that on the Malibu Tour and
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yeah that was like a bit of a back and
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forth in rehearsals because there was a differing opinions on
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what songs you don't keep and what ones you sacrifice
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you know but I don't know all those shows were
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amazing and I wasn't overthinking it really I think Radar
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was probably the highlight of last few months but I
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don't know, Rebecca's opinion might differ.
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I think as well with our last tour it was
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like our first time properly working with in-ears for a
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run specifically, which I think, me personally I feel like
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that changed a lot for me and I felt like
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I was able to have a lot more vocal control
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because I could actually hear myself on stage which, unusual.
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Usually cannot do that um so it was nice.
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To kind of have that that difference and I feel
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like that already has lifted for me my live presence
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um because I have audio um but uh I think
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genuinely it's been um it's been really good just um
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trying new things I think and just creating more of
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an atmosphere, especially like what Nick was saying with creating
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the set lists and how to present ourselves with the
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kind of order of stuff, because it really does make
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a difference. It doesn't sound like a big thing, but
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the order of the songs can really like make or
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break the flow of the set. So just trying to
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get into that has been really interesting.
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Talking of touring guys, like I know we're a long.
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Way from you over there, but have there been any
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discussions about coming over here?
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Oh, 100%, yeah.
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If we could have the money to do such a thing,
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we would absolutely love that.
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Some of my favourite.
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Metal bands are Australian as well.
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You have such a great metal culture over there, and
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I think we want to be part of it, so
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get us over there. Sure, yeah.
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I was actually talking about this yesterday as well I
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was thinking about it I was like you know playing
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Australia is such a big deal I think it's not
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even like a UK thing it's US as well it's
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such a big deal to go play out there and
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yeah it'd be amazing it'd be such an ordeal I
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think it would be so good and I just you
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know from following bands growing up every time they were
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like announcing shows in Australia it was like always a
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big deal to play in Australia so yeah I've never
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been myself so I'd love to play.
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Well, if you make it over, let me know and
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I'll be your chaperones.
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Hell yeah.
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Brilliant.
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All right, guys. Well, thanks very much for your time.
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The single Burnout is out now. Everyone in Australia goes
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out and listens to it.
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It might help the cause to get you down here,
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but in the meantime, best of luck with everything.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you very much, Chris.